1 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 1: Hi, Hi, how are you. It's been so long. 2 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 2: I know, I was excited. I feel so big time. 3 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:21,160 Speaker 2: When I have certain people on, it's weird. I can't 4 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 2: explain it because usually I'm just like ranting talking about 5 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 2: bullshit like tuna fish. And then there's someone that I'm 6 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 2: like excited about because I only swear in my life. 7 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:34,240 Speaker 2: I only have people on when i'm excited about them. 8 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 1: Well, I'm excited to talk to you. I'm excited to 9 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:36,839 Speaker 1: have a big talk. 10 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 3: I feel like so much has changed for both of 11 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 3: us and to be last met and like you are 12 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 3: like now the TikToker, the TikToker, Like you're moving and 13 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 3: you're just like in this amazing era and you're just 14 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 3: like killing it and you're so I mean, I know 15 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 3: social media doesn't tell the whole truth, but you seem 16 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 3: very inflow and very happy right. 17 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 2: Now in the pocket. 18 00:00:57,800 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 1: It's very cool to see. Thank you. 19 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 2: No, let's do our perspectives about each other and then 20 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:05,040 Speaker 2: let's correct them. Let's do that. That's fun. Okay, So okay, 21 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 2: first of all, I don't think I knew last time 22 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 2: it was Christina Najar that that's your name. 23 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 3: That's my real name. Yes, and I gave myself to 24 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:14,279 Speaker 3: Tanks the nickname when I was like twelve long sto. 25 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 2: Oh, I did know that. I do remember that. I 26 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 2: actually do remember. I forgot that. I remember that. 27 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 3: Wait a second, So who calls you Christina? Like my 28 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 3: parents and that's kind of it. My parents and a 29 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 3: few friends maybe from from high school, but mostly everybody 30 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 3: calls me Tinks. 31 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 2: Right, and also like you kind of don't have a 32 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 2: last name, which is like me, and that's very cool. 33 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 1: It's kind of cool. Yeah, it's easy, and it's like, 34 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:38,680 Speaker 1: you know, it works. It's easy. It's four letters, you know, 35 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 1: one and done. 36 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:42,039 Speaker 2: So that's a good question. If someone meets you on 37 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 2: an airplane, all right, so you meet like a really 38 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 2: successful like mobil baller guy who's like a big player 39 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 2: but doesn't know anything about this world, and like you're 40 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 2: smart in your edge. 41 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 1: Justina all the way, I'm like, Hi, I'm Christina. 42 00:01:57,600 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 2: Okay, but like then, even more, what do you do 43 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 2: for a living? Now you're gonna be like I'm an 44 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:04,639 Speaker 2: influencecause he's gonna think you're some thought dope. 45 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 1: It's tough and I don't know. 46 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 2: At me, I'm in my fifties. Can you imagine me fel. 47 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 1: Like I'm a TikToker. They're like what. 48 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 3: And by the way, I'm not ashamed, and I know 49 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:17,799 Speaker 3: you aren't either of being an influencer whatsoever. I love 50 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:20,800 Speaker 3: it and I think it's amazing, but there is some 51 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 3: judgment if people don't live in this world and they 52 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 3: don't know, there are preconceived notions. So I say, like, 53 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 3: I have a radio show first, because I feel like 54 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 3: if they don't live in the world, it's true. 55 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 1: And I can go in. 56 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:33,080 Speaker 3: And then I'm like, and I do a little influencing 57 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 3: on the side, you know, kind of interest edge them 58 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:38,080 Speaker 3: into it, versus just come out and be like I 59 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 3: talked to my phone for eight hours a day. 60 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 2: Well no, but it's more that like saying influencer. It's 61 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 2: even worse at your age because it sounds very like, 62 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 2: of course you are you want to buy like anel bag? Yes, 63 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:52,359 Speaker 2: thirty something years old, you want me to take you 64 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 2: to for me? It sounds insane, But it's different. 65 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 3: It's not like it's interesting. It's like, why what do 66 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 3: you mean you're a TikToker? Like that's so cool, very weird. Yeah, no, 67 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 3: it's cool, but it's Christina to guys. 68 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 2: Okay, so Ristina to guys, So, how has it evolved 69 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 2: since last time? So you've had ebbs, you've had flows, 70 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 2: You've had cancelations, you've popped off, you know, like what's real, 71 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:14,919 Speaker 2: what's not real? Like, tell me about the state of 72 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:17,799 Speaker 2: the union, address of this career where you are, what 73 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 2: you've learned, and like how it's going. 74 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 3: It's funny. It's really a different job than I thought 75 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 3: it was. And there's so much more ebbing and flowing 76 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 3: than I thought. And you kind of have to like 77 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 3: take your lumps and you kind of have to ride 78 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:33,079 Speaker 3: the wave through it and survive it and be like, Okay, 79 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 3: I didn't die. Like it was bad, but I didn't die, 80 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 3: and I'm still here and I still you know, I'm 81 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 3: still creating things and it's okay. So I've been an 82 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 3: influencer for five years now. I started in COVID. It's 83 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 3: twenty twenty five, coming up. Five years. I think that 84 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 3: I'm sort of ready to start a new era of 85 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 3: my career, leaning more heavily into bigger projects like the 86 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 3: book and you know, it's being made into a TV 87 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:58,839 Speaker 3: show and I'm an executive producer and these are things 88 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 3: that really interest me because I still love to share online, 89 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 3: but I'm just kind of looking to do bigger. 90 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 2: Deeper, deeper. 91 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I wish that I was more business minded 92 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 3: like you, like, trust me, I think for thirty minutes 93 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 3: a day, what's my skinny girl? Like, I really do think, 94 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 3: because I would love to do a project of that size, 95 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:21,159 Speaker 3: but I'm not. It's just not like that natural to 96 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 3: me business. I'm more of like a, Oh I have 97 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:25,040 Speaker 3: an idea for a movie. Oh, I have an idea 98 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 3: for a show. I have an idea for a book. 99 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 3: So that's what I'm leaning into. I'm trying to lean 100 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 3: into what I'm good at, and we'll see how it goes. 101 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:31,280 Speaker 2: How old are you? 102 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 1: Thirty four? 103 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:34,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's still very very right. I mean I didn't 104 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 2: become I was broke until I was late thirties, and 105 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 2: it all sort of like comes together. It's case law 106 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:43,480 Speaker 2: and so like you're just like sort of I took 107 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:46,799 Speaker 2: a bartending class after college, and I went to acting 108 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:50,480 Speaker 2: and I then produced large scale events where like the 109 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 2: Emmys the Grammys, and would coordinate all the food and 110 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:56,279 Speaker 2: beverage and the lighting and the sound. All these things 111 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 2: have somehow come into like my house renovation projects, my 112 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 2: ability to pull thanks to together, I produce things like 113 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 2: it's sort of all like converges and then it gets concentrated, 114 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 2: but you can sort of be nimble and shift it. 115 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 2: Like I wasn't planning any of this a couple of 116 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 2: years ago, like this was. I was planning towards sort 117 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 2: of semi retiring, just doing what I wanted. This is 118 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 2: com I was talking to my best friends since high 119 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 2: school last night because we were talking about hacks, and 120 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 2: I'm like, is that not me? In twenty years? So 121 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 2: I'm going to be in a Rolls Royce like negotiating 122 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:27,679 Speaker 2: for a figurine in some store. But it actually isn't 123 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:31,159 Speaker 2: me because I'm not like her or Joan Rivers, where 124 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 2: I define my life by the calendar and how full 125 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:38,159 Speaker 2: it is. And I said, when the tables go cold, 126 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 2: I'm walking out, like I'm totally cool. I'm only doing 127 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:41,279 Speaker 2: this because the tables are hot. 128 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:43,479 Speaker 3: No, you're doing it because it's working. It's fun and 129 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:46,280 Speaker 3: like you're doing it and that's why it works. I 130 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 3: think it's like it's kind of a self fulfilling prophecy. 131 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 3: That's why it keeps working. Is because you're like you 132 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 3: could take it or leave it. You're just exactly exactly 133 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 3: and like that shows and like when people need it 134 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:58,840 Speaker 3: too much, you can tell and people are like, eh, yeah, 135 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:01,919 Speaker 3: So I think that's why it's worked and it's very cool. 136 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 3: Like I think about you all the time. I think 137 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 3: about how you know it came together for you. I 138 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 3: think about having your daughter all of that, Like it 139 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:11,839 Speaker 3: does inspire me and I think about it. I'm always like, 140 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 3: last time I did your pod, you were like, oh, 141 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 3: You've still got so much time, And I'm like, I 142 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:19,360 Speaker 3: hope she tells me that again, because I feel it's o'clock, sticken. 143 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:23,280 Speaker 2: No, beyond beyond time. But also I feel like you 144 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 2: are there's a more relaxedness about you too. It feels 145 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:27,839 Speaker 2: like you popped off. It was the biggest thing in 146 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 2: the entire universe. You leveled out. You had like a 147 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:34,160 Speaker 2: rough moment which I messaged you about. Yeah, it seems 148 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:37,920 Speaker 2: like you're more comfortable in your skin. Like you're just 149 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 2: like this is what this is and it doesn't have 150 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 2: to I don't know if they hit a home run 151 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:44,159 Speaker 2: every day, but I I and I could get get 152 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:46,600 Speaker 2: banged up, but like we're here, like you said, the 153 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 2: store is going to open every day, and this is 154 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 2: like it just doesn't seem it's just an energy and 155 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:53,160 Speaker 2: I could be totally wrong. You're just like, this is 156 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 2: what I want to talk about. This is what I 157 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 2: find interesting. As niche as it is. I'm not forcing it, 158 00:06:57,920 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 2: I'm not pushing it. 159 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, totally. It just takes some time. 160 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 3: And like, honestly, in a weird way, like being canceled 161 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:06,839 Speaker 3: did kind of level me out because I was so 162 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 3: like I was like breathing, like the la I needed everything. 163 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 3: I needed to go to every party. I was obsessed, 164 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 3: I was missing you know. 165 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 1: It was just like it felt like if it went away, 166 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 1: I would die. 167 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 3: And it did go away for a couple months, and 168 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 3: I like learned who my real friends are and I 169 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 3: really learned how that would all work. And then I 170 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 3: came back and I was like, you know, you kind 171 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 3: of recalibrate and you figure out what matters and you 172 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 3: figure out how it goes, and it's like it is 173 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 3: a job at the end of the day. It's like 174 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 3: before I think I was like this is I breathe 175 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 3: it it's my life, Like my phone is first like 176 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 3: everything for the. 177 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 1: Story, and now I'm like, it's a job. 178 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 3: I love my followers very much, I love making content 179 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 3: for them, but at the end of the day, the Internet, 180 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 3: it's a job and I'm going to do what I 181 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 3: am going to do and if people like it, that's great, 182 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 3: and if not, then that's okay too. 183 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 2: I think it's interesting. I just thought that you said 184 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 2: that it leveled you out because you didn't really know 185 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 2: that the wolves are always at the end of the bed. 186 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 1: Oh my god. 187 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 2: I was talking to Tim dill in the Comedian about 188 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 2: this last night because I have no I really don't 189 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 2: have fear, but I'm not going to jump on the 190 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 2: sun for no reason. I've said things in my career 191 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 2: that like I could have said another way, like it 192 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 2: literally didn't need to be said, or just say it 193 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 2: a different way, or asked the question to other people. 194 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 2: It's nothing to do with fear. It's just like it 195 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:39,320 Speaker 2: wasn't my hill to die and who cared? But the 196 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 2: thing that I said that could cause me so much problems. 197 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 2: And I fly very close to the sun, Like there's 198 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 2: something about politics I want to talk about today, and 199 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 2: like I'm thinking my team and be like, what the 200 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:49,440 Speaker 2: fuck do you need to be doing that now, but 201 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 2: like whatever, fuck it, I want to do it, so 202 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:53,439 Speaker 2: I try to fly close, but I don't need to 203 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 2: be on the sun. But if things are going too well, 204 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 2: and it's not that I'm like negative or bet against myself, 205 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 2: I don't like it. I get uncomfortable. The way that 206 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 2: you described what you're going on in LA that sounds 207 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 2: to me like being on a very dangerous role, coach. 208 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 2: I don't like it. I was just invited to the 209 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:11,440 Speaker 2: derby to do everything properly the whole entire weekend, and 210 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 2: I grew up going to the races, but like had 211 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 2: to scrounge for to get things, and like now it's 212 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 2: like of course, like elite and VIP. I don't like 213 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 2: it when it's too much and too much of me, 214 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 2: and when it's too good and too liked, like I 215 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 2: don't like it. I'm a comfortable because the wolves are 216 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 2: at the fucking end of the bed. 217 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's that phrase where it's like the devil comes 218 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 3: for you at your highest moment, and it's like true, 219 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 3: it's like you're riding high, like everything feels amazing, and 220 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 3: then it's like boom, and it's like you kind of 221 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:39,960 Speaker 3: have to not be always looking over your shoulder, but 222 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 3: like to your point, you kind of have to know 223 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 3: it's there and just be like okay, like it is 224 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 3: what it is. And that's why you need to do 225 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:48,439 Speaker 3: exactly what you want. You need to pick the fights 226 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 3: you want to fight and leave the shit that doesn't matter. 227 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 3: But you're fearless, Like I think about you all the time, 228 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 3: like in your comments, like you're so funny. You just 229 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 3: talk right back to people and you're just like you 230 00:09:57,760 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 3: don't give a shit. You're just like you're like you'll 231 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 3: or whatever. And I'm like, yes, like I'm dying for 232 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 3: it because you don't care. And and by the way, 233 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:08,440 Speaker 3: that's why this is awkward. You're still here, no, yeah, 234 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:12,680 Speaker 3: because because very few people are just like, yeah, like 235 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 3: this is what I think, and it's okay to talk 236 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:15,840 Speaker 3: about these things. 237 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 1: We're all gonna be okay. 238 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 3: We're very much in a time where it's like people 239 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 3: don't even say their opinion anymore, which is why I 240 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 3: think we've gotten to this place, by the way, this 241 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 3: extreme place where everyone's like can't even have a conversation 242 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 3: without qualifying sixty things exactly. 243 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 4: That's so, and it's okay. And that's okay exactly. You know, 244 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 4: you can say like I don't like this TV show. 245 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:40,319 Speaker 4: It's all right, and people are like, but why did 246 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 4: you right? Sometimes you just don't like something. And by 247 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 4: the way, I think that we were all a lot 248 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 4: happier when we were living in a time when you 249 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:50,680 Speaker 4: could say I like that, that's not for me whatever. 250 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 4: Now we kind of find a weird moralizing thing. But 251 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 4: behind everything we can't. We don't think it's proper to 252 00:10:57,160 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 4: just say, actually, don't like that actor. He's not for me. 253 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 1: Now. 254 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 4: I was like, well, you know, twenty years ago he 255 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 4: said this and he had a dog that you know, 256 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 4: blah blah. 257 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:08,680 Speaker 1: And exactly just say you don't like him. It's okay. 258 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's couched in such bullshit because we're supposed 259 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 2: to use your voice. You have a voice to use it. 260 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 1: Shut the fuck up. 261 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 2: You can't use your voice. You have to be muzzled. 262 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 1: It's ridiculous. 263 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:19,960 Speaker 2: Yes, And the thing is, there was a movie years 264 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:22,440 Speaker 2: ago Sandra Bullock's speed when she had to keep the 265 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 2: bus at fifty five miles an hour, couldn't go higher 266 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:27,320 Speaker 2: or lower, everyone would die. And that's kind of a 267 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 2: little bit what it's like meaning when you go through 268 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:33,560 Speaker 2: something like a cancelation or something is really bad. I 269 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 2: don't know who I said this to, but you have 270 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:37,199 Speaker 2: to hold on to the steering ael but you cannot 271 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:39,960 Speaker 2: hold on too tight. But you cannot let go right. 272 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 2: You can't like go hide under a rock, but you 273 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 2: can't like go hard in the paint. You're kind of 274 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 2: just like. 275 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 1: You kind of just have to go through it. You 276 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 1: kind of just have to go through. 277 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 3: And by the way, when I was canceled, I thought, 278 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:51,320 Speaker 3: like all the people that I was jealous of, I thought, 279 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:53,679 Speaker 3: they'll never get canceled, They'll never get canceled. I made 280 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:56,840 Speaker 3: this little list in my mind. You know, every single 281 00:11:56,840 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 3: one of them has been through some cancelationship. Yes, yes, 282 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 3: nobody's safe. They're gonna find something. They're gonna keep fucking deeper. 283 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 2: So you know it's cancelation is so canceled. No one's 284 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:10,439 Speaker 2: it's not. Cancelation is fucking canceled. Okay, But this is 285 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:13,960 Speaker 2: the bigger moment. The amount you learned through something negative 286 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:17,080 Speaker 2: is so much more valuable than like you need. Like 287 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 2: it's unbelievable. There's something that I was just dealing with 288 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 2: with my daughter and like it will define her. And 289 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:26,200 Speaker 2: it's like I thrive on how to deal with something 290 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:28,080 Speaker 2: in a crisis with all this relief work and all 291 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:30,319 Speaker 2: this stuff. Like I'm just good in a crisis and 292 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 2: I don't want to have that experience. 293 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:32,080 Speaker 1: Believe me. 294 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:33,559 Speaker 2: It's not like I'm saying, like I'm a I have 295 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 2: a death wish. I'm saying, but like when it clicks in, 296 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:39,560 Speaker 2: it's a puzzle and I can always figure out how 297 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 2: to like navigate it, how to like drive on that road. 298 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:45,559 Speaker 2: And it is a skill set and it's so helpful 299 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:48,559 Speaker 2: for things in life that really matter, family matters, for 300 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:52,559 Speaker 2: financial matters, health matters, whatever. Like these things are like 301 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 2: you have to take a deep breath, pay attention to 302 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:58,320 Speaker 2: how you're navigating somebody, because there are many ways to 303 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 2: go and they all sometimes my good ideas. You think this, 304 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 2: you think that the other thing, But like I pride 305 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:06,440 Speaker 2: myself on being like making that right decision, and that's 306 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 2: because of a series of you know, difficult things. So 307 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:12,079 Speaker 2: that's what's really good. Then you're like fuck it, Nope, 308 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 2: this is bad. We're all in fucking mode. Now let's go. Yeah, 309 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:18,439 Speaker 2: what is the basis of what you were discussing over 310 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 2: all life. 311 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 3: You know, a lot of what I talk about is 312 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 3: how to navigate this new era that we're going through, 313 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:27,319 Speaker 3: navigate dating as best I can. Again, I'm not an expert. 314 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 3: I just have found a way. 315 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 2: What isn't that there is no expert there, there's literally 316 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 2: no expert. 317 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 1: But I have like the little. 318 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 3: Tips and tricks to like not make yourself go crazy, 319 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:38,560 Speaker 3: and and and then also I just give like advice 320 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:40,440 Speaker 3: and people are like, what qualifies you. 321 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:42,440 Speaker 1: I'm going to tell you something. Common sense is not 322 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:42,960 Speaker 1: that common. 323 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:45,320 Speaker 3: I think that people call my radio show because they 324 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 3: think generally I have pretty good manners and I can 325 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 3: kind of figure out we can do. 326 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 1: You could have a good situation. 327 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you could also have a good communication start. 328 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 2: I had wrote a book called Naturally Thin, and my 329 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 2: ex was like, you need to go become a nutritionist 330 00:13:58,320 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 2: to write this book. I'm like, no, I'm a person 331 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 2: that food noise exactly. I invented the term food noise 332 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:04,560 Speaker 2: and people were battling me in my own comments about 333 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 2: food is like, yeah, hi, I'm the first person ever 334 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:08,560 Speaker 2: used it. It was when the dinosaurs walkfe or some 335 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 2: other person regurgitated it. So shut the fuck up and 336 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 2: sit down. But the point was I wasn't a nutritionist. 337 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 2: I was a person that was noisy about it. What 338 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 2: d what not? Dat I was good? I was bad? 339 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 2: Like yeah, binged I So you're that of dating. Okay, 340 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 2: So all right, so let's get into the book and 341 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 2: the TV show and wow. 342 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 1: Yeah it's fun. 343 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 3: It's called Hotter in the Hamptons said in one of 344 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 3: your favorite places. It's a spicy romance novel. It's an 345 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 3: easy beach read. It's about an influencer who has a 346 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 3: spicy summer flang. I did it because I wanted to 347 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 3: do something creative. I wanted to do something that was like, 348 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 3: I mean, there's parts of it in there that are 349 00:14:57,600 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 3: met because obviously it's an influencer about why not make 350 00:14:59,840 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 3: it influencer. 351 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 1: But it's creative, it's fun, it's spicy. 352 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 3: A lot of it is influenced by my followers and 353 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 3: the questions they've asked me. They a lot of them 354 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 3: have been like, I watch lesbian porn? Is that normal? 355 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 3: And I'm like, yeah, it's normal. A lot of women 356 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 3: have that fantasy, like of course, really, yeah, So it 357 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 3: was kind of inspired by my followers asking me that 358 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 3: and because she has a summer flame with a woman and. 359 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 2: Wow, Hotter in the Hampton's is the best name. 360 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 3: Yes ever And I wanted it to be like rich 361 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 3: mom location like I had. I have this whole idea 362 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 3: for a series where each book is going to be 363 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 3: set in a new place that's. 364 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 2: Rich all this, I want to be in it. 365 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, so I want to be in it. I want 366 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 3: to be in an episode. I'm going to write you 367 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 3: into the next one for sure. 368 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 2: And it's going, Wow, that's amazing. Okay, so Hotter in 369 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 2: the Hampton's And who's doing the TV show and what's happening? 370 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 2: This is so exciting, so. 371 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 3: That you're going to be as No, I'm going to 372 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 3: be an executive producer though, which is so exciting. 373 00:15:56,880 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 1: My first time. 374 00:15:58,520 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 2: Foster sisters are in it. 375 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 1: No, they bought the rights, so they're going to make 376 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 1: it into a TV show. Yeah. 377 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 3: So I'm so excited. I can't believe it. I'm so 378 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 3: like they are the moment. They are so smart. I 379 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 3: worshiped them. I thought their show was ten out of ten. 380 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 3: Last year, Nobody Wants This was so good and yeah, 381 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 3: everyone was talking about Yeah so they I mean, I 382 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 3: still can't believe it, Like I have the most imposing them, 383 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 3: Like it's crazy. 384 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 2: But it totally tracks and it's a perfect trajectory for you. 385 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 2: Like this is like a real like Sex and the 386 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 2: City thing. It's totally on brand. Like the one who 387 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 2: was on the Housewives who did the Sex and the City. 388 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 2: I can't remember her name, you know she was on this, Candace. 389 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Candace ye? Yeah yeah right yeah. 390 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 2: So wait a second, So what happened? You have an agent, 391 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 2: and your agent packaged it and pitched it. Is that 392 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 2: how it happened. 393 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, when we announced the book, we sent it to 394 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 3: a bunch of different producers, and I couldn't believe it 395 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 3: that they wanted it and that they were doing it. 396 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 2: You had this idea when writing the book, You had 397 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 2: the idea to write a book and make it a 398 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 2: TV show. 399 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought, like I thought maybe, I mean, it 400 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 3: was a pipe dream. I had no idea what actually happen. 401 00:16:57,440 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 3: I was like, oh, I'll just see how it goes. 402 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 3: But I'm really thrilled beyond and I'm excited to just 403 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 3: do like this bigger project and work on something you 404 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:07,639 Speaker 3: know that's going to take a year plus. It's like 405 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:10,400 Speaker 3: I'm used to making videos that are made in five 406 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:13,359 Speaker 3: minutes and posted immediately, So it's. 407 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:15,919 Speaker 2: No, yes, but you're very like smart and thorough and 408 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 2: like that's very that's like more meat on the bone. 409 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:21,439 Speaker 2: How many episodes? And did it start shooting? And where's 410 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 2: it going to live? 411 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 1: We're talking to writers now. 412 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 3: I'm loving every second because it's just like it's so 413 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:28,639 Speaker 3: cool to be in these meetings. It's so cool to 414 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 3: have a seat at the table and to just hear 415 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:31,639 Speaker 3: how it works. 416 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:33,359 Speaker 1: And it's really like feeding me. 417 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 3: I feel like I was ready for like the next thing, 418 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:37,359 Speaker 3: and it's it's really doing that for me. 419 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:38,680 Speaker 1: So I'm very excited. 420 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 2: But it's early, very on brand for you. It's very 421 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 2: very good. And the good news is that you can 422 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 2: use the shitty things that happen in the in the book, 423 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 2: like everything's content, Like Nora Ephron like of course that. 424 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:53,920 Speaker 1: She gets canceled in the book obviously, So. 425 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:55,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's I got. 426 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 1: Now. 427 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:57,639 Speaker 2: I got to read it when I'm hot in the 428 00:17:57,680 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 2: Hamptons because I remember that you were and you have 429 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:02,159 Speaker 2: to have your tabasco salad dressing. 430 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, we have to hang out this summer at 431 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:06,480 Speaker 3: least once we have to get drunk in the hands together. 432 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 2: One hundred percent. 433 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:09,399 Speaker 1: You're off alcohol, but you're gonna know. 434 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 2: I'm back on but not crazy, and i'mant during my 435 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 2: saki era. We could talk about it later. The Lord's work. 436 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:15,199 Speaker 1: I love saki. 437 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 2: I'm gonna make saki mainstream. 438 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 1: Just wait, I love that. 439 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:20,199 Speaker 2: Just wait. I've decided, and if I decided, it's going 440 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 2: to happen. 441 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 1: If you decide, then it's going to happen. 442 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 2: And if I decide that it's going to be the 443 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:25,159 Speaker 2: new chicken salad, then it's going to be the new 444 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:25,919 Speaker 2: chicken salad.