1 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 1: All right, Runner Gang, Welcome back to Post Run High. 2 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:08,879 Speaker 1: Today's episode is a fun one. I went on a 3 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 1: one mile run through Los Angeles with the insanely talented 4 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:16,479 Speaker 1: Meg Donnelly, who, by the way, absolutely crushed the run. 5 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:19,080 Speaker 1: You guys might know Meg from her role in Disney's 6 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 1: Zombies franchise, High School musical The Musical, or maybe even 7 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 1: from her own personal music. Meg and I both grew 8 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 1: up in New Jersey, so naturally we had to bond 9 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 1: over that before sitting down for our full conversation, because 10 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 1: you guys know, I love my Jersey girls. But we 11 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:36,239 Speaker 1: got into acting how she deals with the highs and 12 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 1: lows of growing up in the public eye, her music, 13 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 1: her life in LA and so much more. But before 14 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:44,559 Speaker 1: we get into the episode, I want to give you 15 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:45,559 Speaker 1: guys a quick reminder. 16 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:46,240 Speaker 2: Hello Hello. 17 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 1: If you are a loving post Run High with me 18 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 1: Kate Max, make sure you subscribe to my YouTube channel 19 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 1: at Kate Max, where you can watch all of our 20 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 1: video podcast episodes. And if you want to watch my 21 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 1: run with Meg that we filmed before sitting down for 22 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 1: the conversation you are about to hear, you can of 23 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:05,480 Speaker 1: course find it across my socials at Kmax. But for now, 24 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 1: let's get into today's episode. What is up Brunner Gang. 25 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:18,839 Speaker 1: Welcome back to post run High today. I am here 26 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 1: with Meg Donnelly, Meg and I just ran a couple blocks, 27 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:26,199 Speaker 1: probably almost a mile. If we look oily, it's because 28 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:28,679 Speaker 1: we just ran, so, you know, keep that in mind. 29 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 2: How are you feeling post run good? I feel really good. Yeah. 30 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:33,960 Speaker 3: I really didn't think I was gonna last that long. 31 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 3: I had to walk a couple of times. Not gonna lie, 32 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 3: but I yeah, I didn't know what to expect. 33 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 2: But I'm happy that I made it. 34 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:43,479 Speaker 1: I know. Pass out, Yeah, it's always a funny ice breaker, 35 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 1: like starting with the run. Yeah, and I love asking 36 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 1: people in the beginning of my interviews about kind of 37 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 1: what they do for working out, And we talked about 38 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 1: it a little bit on the run. But break it 39 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 1: down for us, like are you an active person? Do 40 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 1: you like working out? It's definitely important for me. 41 00:01:57,680 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 3: I think it's taken a while to figure out what 42 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 3: I like to do because I love dancing so much. 43 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 3: So that's like a really easy workout because you're you're 44 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 3: just working everything out but while dancing, and it's just. 45 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:11,080 Speaker 2: A really fun activity to do. 46 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:15,640 Speaker 3: I've tried doing pilates and like hot yoga and hot 47 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 3: sculpt all that stuff really hard. 48 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 2: So like the heated room stuff is really hard for me. 49 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 3: But I've been trying because like my best friend does 50 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 3: it a lot, and so, yeah, but it's mostly dance, 51 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 3: I would say, and like you know, nice walks and hikes. Yeah. 52 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:34,239 Speaker 3: I'm trying to get into running because my dad. I 53 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 3: think I said this before too, but my dad has 54 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 3: been running for like he hasn't missed a day in 55 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 3: like thirty years, and he's ran so many marathons and 56 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 3: so it's like definitely my blood somewhere hasn't reached yet. 57 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 3: But I'm trying to like do like like mile, like 58 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:50,239 Speaker 3: a mile at a time. 59 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:51,399 Speaker 2: I like that. Yeah. 60 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 1: No, I feel like dance, as you said, is such 61 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 1: a good cardio workout. And I feel like what's cool 62 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 1: about you too, is that you've done a lot of 63 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 1: musical dance singing roles and you have to have such 64 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 1: an insane amount of stamina in order to do that. 65 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 2: What do you do to get ready for a role. 66 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:10,360 Speaker 1: Is there a routine that you strictly follow or is 67 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 1: it more like the dance rehearsals that get you, you know, 68 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 1: ready to go, because that it is hard being able 69 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 1: to sing and dance. 70 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 2: Yeah at the same time, one hundred percent. 71 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 1: Yeah. 72 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 3: I think especially for stuff like Zombies, like we have 73 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:26,800 Speaker 3: so much rehearsal time. Ye Like we have like a 74 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 3: month before we start shooting and we're just doing dancing 75 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 3: all the time. So I think you get into the 76 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:31,079 Speaker 3: routine of. 77 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 2: Like, oh, okay, I'm out of shape, Like let's get 78 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:34,080 Speaker 2: into it. 79 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 3: So you have like kind of a month to prepare 80 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 3: and on the dancing days, like there's specific days where 81 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 3: you're like, oh, we're just shooting musical today, and then 82 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 3: it's like okay, cool, and then you can kind of 83 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 3: in the morning prepare like okay, today I'm going to 84 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 3: be doing it. 85 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 2: So like how do I rest? How do I eat properly? 86 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 3: You know? But yeah, now like moving into like the 87 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 3: music world, I feel like I've just been trying to 88 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 3: sing as much as possible, like terribly singing on the 89 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 3: treadmill and trying to like build up stamps in that way. 90 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 2: But it is really difficult. Yeah. 91 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 1: I love knowing, And ever since I started the running 92 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 1: interview show and we interview a lot of artists, It's 93 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 1: so fun knowing that you guys do train a lot 94 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 1: while singing on the treadmill. 95 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. 96 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 1: The first time I heard about that was actually before 97 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 1: kind of the news came out that like Taylor Swift 98 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 1: does it. You know. I was interviewing Mary Kate Morrissey 99 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:23,280 Speaker 1: and she's the girl that plays Alphaba on Wicked, right, 100 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:26,840 Speaker 1: and she was saying she often trains like that because 101 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 1: Wicked is the Gershwin Theater has a break stage, which 102 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 1: means it's kind of on an incline. 103 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 2: So you have to like have that extra level of 104 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 2: breath control. Yeah. 105 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:37,359 Speaker 3: But I can't imagine singing alphabet songs every night. I 106 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:40,160 Speaker 3: can't even being suspended in the air Like that must 107 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 3: be so hard. 108 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't fathom that. Are you a Wicked fan? 109 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 3: Yes, Oh my gosh, I'm a huge musical theater nerd. 110 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:48,480 Speaker 3: I loved Wicked, Love the movie. 111 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. 112 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:51,920 Speaker 3: I literally have like a rent quote on my bracelet. 113 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 3: I it's yeah, I'm pretty deep in it. 114 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 1: I love meeting kids that are in that we're into 115 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 1: musical theater too, because I agree, I am see you. Yes, no, no, 116 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:05,480 Speaker 1: like I didn't do musical theater growing up, And yes, 117 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 1: like I did a couple of school plays in middle school, 118 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 1: but I do I did, like you know how in 119 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 1: middle school they would do random kind of hodge podges 120 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 1: of different yeah, like recital, yes, exactly, like a recital 121 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:21,279 Speaker 1: or it would be like bits of Annie and bits 122 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 1: of like all these. 123 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:22,719 Speaker 2: I did that too. 124 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:26,839 Speaker 1: Yeah it was cute, but yeah, I always liked it. 125 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 2: I think performing is so cool. 126 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 1: But I mean, growing up, you were super into musical 127 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:32,039 Speaker 1: theater and performances. 128 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I thought that that was what I 129 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 3: was going to do, like completely. I also was a 130 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 3: huge fan of Disney Channel, so like as a really 131 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:42,840 Speaker 3: like young kid, I started like auditioning professionally when I 132 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 3: was like seven or eight, so really young. Yeah, and 133 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 3: a lot of it was for Broadway, but then it 134 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 3: was always for Disney Channel too. 135 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 2: It was always you know, kind of like. 136 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 3: Generals for that world because that was something that I 137 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:58,039 Speaker 3: was like such a huge fan of. But yeah, musical theater, 138 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:00,359 Speaker 3: I was like, oh yeah, Broadway's the dream, That's what 139 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:00,919 Speaker 3: I'm gonna do. 140 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 2: And so. 141 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:05,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, so I was like a huge musical theater nerd 142 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:07,480 Speaker 3: and that's kind of all I listened to and what 143 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 3: I loved. And then it kind of just like transitioned 144 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 3: to TV and film when I was like like eleven 145 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 3: or twelve, I just started outsing for commercials and TV 146 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 3: for like you know, like why not, and then that 147 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:21,600 Speaker 3: kind of just open another door. 148 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:24,359 Speaker 2: So yeah, it's crazy. It's so wild. 149 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 1: It's wild to know how young you were when you 150 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 1: got into the industry because it's like every kid's dream, 151 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 1: right that's interested in musical theater. What was your childhood 152 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 1: like growing up? Like I know you grew up in 153 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:39,040 Speaker 1: New Jersey and you know, like breaking down. Were your 154 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 1: parents into acting or was this this world new to 155 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 1: them as well? 156 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:44,479 Speaker 3: It was completely new to them. Yeah, I think my 157 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:47,280 Speaker 3: love for music definitely came from them. Like they listened, 158 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 3: like there was always music playing in the house. It 159 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:52,600 Speaker 3: was never quiet, and there were huge concert growers, so 160 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 3: like I was always at concerts and music playing. So 161 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 3: they're huge like music people, but like actual creatives. Like 162 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:00,720 Speaker 3: they were like jocks in high school and kind of 163 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 3: went into the corporate world, so they were not like 164 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 3: creative like that, but music wise, they were, if that 165 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 3: makes sense. So yeah, going into musical theater and like 166 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 3: they put me into sports, I was terrible at all 167 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 3: of them, like I like playing soccer. I did not 168 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 3: want to run on the field. I just wanted to 169 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 3: play goalies so that I didn't have to run. And 170 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 3: I was doing like cartwheels and singing and like whatever, 171 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 3: and they were like, oh, okay, maybe she should do 172 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 3: something like more like musical like theatery kind of thing. 173 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 3: So then I went to like a musical theater school 174 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 3: in Jersey Annie's Playhouse shout out, and yeah, then that's 175 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 3: when I started. But they had no idea, and like 176 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 3: even when like there was a workshop at the theater 177 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 3: school that it was like a Broadway manager I like, 178 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 3: and I just like sang in front of her just 179 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 3: for whatever. And then when she was like, oh, like 180 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 3: we want to sign your daughter and she'll start auditioning 181 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 3: in the city. And like, my parents had no idea 182 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 3: what that meant. I hater to die because I was 183 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 3: like eight, but yeah, and then that's like what moved 184 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 3: me into the city and everything. 185 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 2: But yeah, it was crazy, No, it is, And it's. 186 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 1: So wild how one interaction like that can change the 187 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 1: trajectory of your life, right, Like that woman noticing you 188 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 1: really did transform your life, right, because it's hard, especially 189 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 1: having parents that don't know the industry, you know, it's 190 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 1: hard to know, Okay, like how do we get her 191 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 1: to audition for stuff? And where what should she be 192 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 1: doing if this is what she's interested in? 193 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 2: Right, So that's so cool to know that. Yeah, it 194 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 2: is really cool. And they did the best job. 195 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 3: I don't know how they navigated it the way they did, 196 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 3: but they did. 197 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 2: A great job. 198 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 1: So well, I feel like it was a good situation 199 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 1: because you were getting casted for roles, right and you 200 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 1: very quickly started working and yad of it. What was 201 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 1: it like in those early days going to auditions in 202 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:44,680 Speaker 1: the city. Was it intimidating? Were you too young to 203 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 1: really know if it was scary or not? 204 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 2: You know what was terrified. 205 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 3: The first audition I ever did was an open call 206 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 3: for Billy Elliott. But it was like just dance, and 207 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 3: like I was not a dancer at all, So like 208 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 3: I went in with all these girls from all over 209 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 3: the country and they were so good, and I just 210 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 3: like had like a number on like on my stomach, 211 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 3: and I was just like and like the first dish, 212 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 3: I like got caught immediately because I was just like, 213 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:11,560 Speaker 3: I don't know what I'm doing. So it was like, yeah, 214 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 3: it was so nerve wracking because it was like just 215 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 3: such a big pool of kids that all have the 216 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 3: same dream and it was just like really eye opening 217 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 3: of like whoa, Like, this is not what I thought 218 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 3: it was. But the first thing I ever did was 219 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 3: an episode of Sesame Street where we taught kids how 220 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 3: to say hands headed feet in Spanish. 221 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 2: Mmm. So we were dancing manosca this Yeah. 222 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 3: That's hands wait, hands, head and feet right, and it 223 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:43,080 Speaker 3: was like Haun was singing it and so we were 224 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:45,680 Speaker 3: just like dancing in the background with like Elmo. 225 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:47,960 Speaker 2: So that was the first song I ever had and 226 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 2: that was. 227 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 3: Really cool, just like being on set and being like, wow, 228 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:53,960 Speaker 3: it's so cool. Yeah, and they filmed in Queens, so 229 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 3: shout out Queens. 230 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:57,960 Speaker 2: It was great. That's amazing. I love knowing that you 231 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 2: were on Sesame Street. What was what would you say 232 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 2: it was your breakout role? Oh? 233 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:06,200 Speaker 3: Was it Zombies or I mean I would say, yeah, 234 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 3: like a year before that, I was on American Housewife, 235 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 3: which is like a sitcom for ABC, and so that 236 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 3: was like the first That's what moved me out to 237 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 3: LA And that was like whoa, Like it was like 238 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:20,199 Speaker 3: on a lot in La and I was like it 239 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:22,680 Speaker 3: was so cool, and like I had just turned sixteen, 240 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 3: so it was just like so wild and new. And 241 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 3: and then like while I was filming, I was auditioning 242 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:32,320 Speaker 3: for Zombies, and then that kind of happened. 243 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 2: So it kind of happened pretty fast right in that way. 244 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 3: But before that, it was just really funny because like 245 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 3: for six years before that, it was just like constant auditions. 246 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 3: So I think a lot of people, like I feel 247 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:46,560 Speaker 3: like a lot of times on social media you see 248 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 3: somebody kind of book something and then go from there, 249 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:52,200 Speaker 3: but you don't see everything else in the background, and 250 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 3: like it never happens that way, Like everybody is working 251 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 3: so hard and like, but you only see like the 252 00:10:57,600 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 3: good parts. So I just think that's really that was 253 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 3: kind of tangent, But it's just really interesting that it is. 254 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 1: It is no and I think too, like I do 255 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 1: know how hard it is to get these roles, and 256 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:09,560 Speaker 1: it does make so much sense. Yeah, you audition for 257 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 1: so much and then it's like you kind of get 258 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 1: that big break and it's so exciting and you're like, yes, 259 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:16,079 Speaker 1: like I'm what they were looking for. But what is 260 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 1: it like dealing with rejection when you're going through all 261 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 1: these auditions and you were so young, and you know, 262 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:23,320 Speaker 1: I'm sure it still happens, right. 263 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah, so much rejection. I feel like it 264 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 3: definitely doesn't get any easier. I think you just learn 265 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:34,079 Speaker 3: how to deal with it more, take it less personally. 266 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 3: It's really a lot easier than done because you know, 267 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 3: you still take it personally, but but you try not to, 268 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 3: you know. I think, yeah, now it's kind of more like, okay, 269 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 3: you know, I just didn't fit the role, or like 270 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 3: I wasn't what they were looking for, and that's okay, 271 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 3: like just kind of rationalizing it that way. But as 272 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 3: a kid, yeah, I think that's definitely where like a 273 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 3: lot of times in my life, like if I feel 274 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 3: like I'm like, you know, not good enough or you know, 275 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 3: a lot of my insecurities, I feel like probably are 276 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 3: rooted in like that rejection all the time, because you 277 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:08,320 Speaker 3: never feel like you're good enough in that way, especially 278 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 3: being a young kid, because you're like wait, why you know? So, 279 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:13,840 Speaker 3: I think that is like a really hard thing. I 280 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 3: think everybody deals with that in their life no matter what. 281 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 3: But I think in this industry it's really interesting and 282 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 3: you're also expected to be an adult at like eight 283 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 3: years old. So you're like on set working and like 284 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:28,080 Speaker 3: everybody is working in nine to five and all the 285 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 3: adults have like families and they're going home to your kids, 286 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 3: and you're just like goofing off on set and then 287 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:35,199 Speaker 3: everyone is kind of like no, like you need to 288 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 3: be an adult kind of thing. 289 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:38,440 Speaker 2: It's it's really strange. 290 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, it is a hard it's a really hard dynamic, 291 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 1: and I feel like it forces you to grow up 292 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 1: so fast. Like, yeah, on our run, we were talking 293 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 1: about how, you know, it's so cool that you've you know, 294 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 1: on Disney and Disney movies like Zombies, and it makes 295 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 1: me think back to Hannah Montana and we were talking 296 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 1: about how growing up like Hannah Montana Wizards of Wave 297 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 1: really placed. They were just our favorite shows to watch, 298 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 1: and it's so weird to like think back on them 299 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 1: and be like, Miley was so young when you were 300 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 1: watching them, just like you were so young when you 301 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 1: first started. But at the same time, you know, growing up, 302 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:09,720 Speaker 1: you look up at them and you're like they're you know, 303 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:12,079 Speaker 1: they're so young, but they at the same time are 304 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 1: so mature for their age. 305 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 2: Like did you feel like you had to grow up 306 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 2: really quickly. It definitely. Yeah, well was that, Like. 307 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 3: It's crazy that like when I saw Hannah Montana on 308 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:25,720 Speaker 3: tour like Massive Square Garden, she was literally like thirteen 309 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 3: fourteen years old. In my mind she was like this 310 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 3: like adult, like amazing. She was literally a kid, Like 311 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 3: that's crazy to me. But because I was like seven eight, 312 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 3: like that was so old to me, you know, and 313 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:38,559 Speaker 3: like return, yeah, it is crazy. And even on the 314 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:41,200 Speaker 3: first Zombies, like I can't believe that I was only sixteen, Like. 315 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:43,960 Speaker 2: I felt so much more mature and like I was 316 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 2: like I. 317 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:47,440 Speaker 3: Know everything and so old like whatever, and it's like 318 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 3: I didn't know anything, right, So it's really fun. 319 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:52,320 Speaker 1: I still don't know anything now now you'd be like 320 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:54,200 Speaker 1: you see high schoolers and you're like, oh my god, 321 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:54,960 Speaker 1: they're so young. 322 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:56,319 Speaker 2: I oh, it's weird. 323 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:59,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's so weird, no, I I yeah, So I 324 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 3: really did feel like I grew up pretty old. I 325 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 3: think also just being in New York as well, like 326 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 3: you kind of have to as well. 327 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:09,319 Speaker 1: I absolutely kids in the city grow up fast, Yeah 328 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 1: for sure. 329 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think. 330 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:13,080 Speaker 3: But when I was younger, I think even being in 331 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 3: this industry, and I think a lot of people can 332 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 3: relate to this, even if they're not. 333 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 2: I really wanted to be. 334 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 3: Old, like older, and so when adults were like, oh, 335 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 3: you're so mature for your age, like that was the 336 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 3: biggest compliment. And now I wish I could go back 337 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 3: and like tell my young my eleven year old self, 338 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 3: like just be a kid, like laugh a little, come on, 339 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 3: because I just wanted to be so adult and mature 340 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 3: and like cool and with the older kids. But I 341 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 3: think I still was a kid for sure, and I 342 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 3: had great kid experiences, but at the same time, like 343 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 3: I didn't as well, and so that is really interesting 344 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 3: to grapple with. But being on the New Zombies movie, 345 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 3: there are so all the kids are like fourteen to 346 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 3: eighteen years old, and so it's almost like I'm reliving 347 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 3: like the first Zombies over again and seeing how young 348 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 3: and excit did they are. Like it was the craziest 349 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 3: thing for like me and the older cast to like 350 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 3: deal with, like, wow, we are not that age anymore, 351 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 3: like we are like in our like early to mid twenties, 352 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 3: and like that's crazy. 353 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 2: It is. 354 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 1: I feel like it's so fun though, to be on 355 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 1: that set and to be with at that age and 356 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 1: be able to kind of be a mended right, you 357 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 1: get to like be a mentor to them and a 358 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 1: little bit of like the big sister role, and that's 359 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 1: such a cool place to get to. 360 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 2: What do you think was the biggest. 361 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 1: Challenge when you were younger, just starting out having gotten 362 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 1: this big role, Like what was the hardest thing for 363 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 1: you to overcome that When you did overcome it, you were. 364 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 2: Like, Okay, damn, I can do anything now. 365 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 3: Yeah. 366 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 2: I think. 367 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 3: I think when like the first like zombies came out, 368 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 3: I don't think any of us really expected what was 369 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 3: going to happen. I don't like even people at Disney, 370 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 3: like it was such a niche Like it was like 371 00:15:56,920 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 3: cheerleaders versus zombies. 372 00:15:59,160 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 2: There's music. 373 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 3: It was kind of just like okay, like hopefully this 374 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 3: does well whatever, And then when it did, I just 375 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 3: don't think we expected it to happen like so fast, 376 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 3: And so I think just facing a lot like just 377 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 3: having a lot of eyes really fast and just facing 378 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 3: like just reading comments and you know all those things. 379 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 3: Like I think overcoming that of like dealing with other 380 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 3: people's opinions, Like I think it really like stunted me 381 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 3: for a while. And then it like kind of went 382 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 3: into my social life, like I just cared so much 383 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 3: about what people thought all the time, right. 384 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 2: And I still do. 385 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 3: I think you still have to in this industry at 386 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 3: some point, you know, like if things do well and 387 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 3: then they don't, you like want to follow that because 388 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 3: you're like, Okay, something is connecting, something's not. But I 389 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 3: think to the point where it like starts, like you know, 390 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 3: debilitating you is when you should be like, Okay, maybe 391 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 3: I need to like you know, figure something out. And 392 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 3: I think I've like what I said before, I was 393 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 3: like I'm trying not to care about what people think. 394 00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 2: Now I get it. 395 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 1: I love that for you, but it is so important, 396 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 1: Like this industry is so hard in that sense. Yeah, 397 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 1: especially and people think that you don't see the comments 398 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:07,920 Speaker 1: or you know, because there's so many. Sometimes there's so many, 399 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 1: Like it's you know, some people think that you don't notice, 400 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 1: but it's like you notice the negative stuff so much 401 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 1: more than the positive stuff. 402 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:15,879 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, there could be like a thousand positive comments 403 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 3: and then one person can say something negative and that 404 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:20,919 Speaker 3: you like ruined your day. Because I feel like in 405 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:23,680 Speaker 3: my head, I'm always like and especially in this industry 406 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 3: as well, it's you're constantly like, because of the rejection everything, 407 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:28,639 Speaker 3: you're like, I'm not good enough. You have like this 408 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 3: imposter syndrome of like maybe I don't belong here, maybe 409 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 3: I'm not a good. 410 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 2: Singer or whatever. 411 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 3: And then if one person says that, you're like, oh, 412 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 3: they got me, they found me out, like I'm not 413 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:39,359 Speaker 3: you know, But that's just not true. 414 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 2: And people will just say. 415 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 3: Stuff just to say it because it's all anonymous, like 416 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 3: you're never like you know, so it's just kind of 417 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:47,399 Speaker 3: like it is what it is. But I think that 418 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 3: like not going on social media or like posting is 419 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 3: important for like music and career, but like not looking 420 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 3: at you know, a lot of the stuff has been 421 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 3: like the biggest lesson is just like post and just 422 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:01,440 Speaker 3: like put it away. 423 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:04,119 Speaker 2: No, that's such good advice. I feel like that. 424 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 1: I was actually just talking to a singer yesterday on 425 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 1: the interview show She'll be her video we posted next week, 426 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 1: Rachel Platten. She's the singer of the like the fight 427 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 1: song Oh My God, Yes, and she's been in the 428 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:17,200 Speaker 1: industry for years, and she was saying the hardest thing 429 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:20,400 Speaker 1: is now adapting to social media because when she first 430 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 1: started out social media wasn't really a thing. 431 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 2: In the way that it is now. Yeah, I can't imagine. 432 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 1: I know you are launching music, do you feel like 433 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:31,639 Speaker 1: social media is super important when you're putting out new things? 434 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, I definitely think with music it really is because 435 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:38,639 Speaker 3: I think, at least me personally, like I find so 436 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:42,159 Speaker 3: much new music on like Instagram or TikTok and because 437 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 3: and I think kind of like posting is important. Yeah, 438 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:47,959 Speaker 3: And I definitely know that, and I definitely, you know, 439 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:50,199 Speaker 3: it's cool to post about stuff that you're proud of. 440 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:54,120 Speaker 3: But at the same time, I'm not a huge fan 441 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:57,680 Speaker 3: of social media because, like I, I feel like there's 442 00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:00,119 Speaker 3: so many pros, but I think the cons are kind 443 00:18:59,960 --> 00:19:04,440 Speaker 3: of just like you know, just like scrolling and comparing 444 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:09,119 Speaker 3: yourself to other people and kind of just like wasting 445 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:10,400 Speaker 3: a lot of time scrolling. 446 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 2: At least I do that. I'm just speaking personally from 447 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 2: my side of things. We all are chronically online, what 448 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:18,360 Speaker 2: I gay. 449 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 3: And so, but I think for like work, and I 450 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:25,160 Speaker 3: think it is really important and I think it makes 451 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:29,160 Speaker 3: people feel connected to you. And I think now I've 452 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:31,159 Speaker 3: just been trying to post stuff that I feel like 453 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:33,639 Speaker 3: is authentic to me and like trying not to be. 454 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 3: It's so weird because like I feel like social media 455 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 3: is not very genuine in the way that you're like 456 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 3: posting something, but it's all curated. So I'm trying to 457 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:45,440 Speaker 3: find a balance right now. I haven't figured it out yet, 458 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:48,640 Speaker 3: figuring it out now of like how to be more 459 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:52,399 Speaker 3: authentic and more myself and just like not again not 460 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:55,679 Speaker 3: care about what people think. And and I feel like 461 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:58,359 Speaker 3: that will It's just really fun that way because it's like, Okay, 462 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:01,160 Speaker 3: like this is just me and like, and I think 463 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:03,680 Speaker 3: people really connect to stuff that's authentic, you. 464 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 2: Know, definitely, I think so too. 465 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 1: I feel like it's so important on social media just 466 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 1: to be posting content for your people because at the 467 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:11,159 Speaker 1: end of the day, it's just like your friend, your 468 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 1: close friend group on there, you know. 469 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:18,239 Speaker 3: But it's hard not to like curate stuff or like 470 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 3: be like, oh, like I really like this photo, so 471 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 3: I'm gonna post it. But it's like, you know, yeah, 472 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 3: it's hard not to for everything to always look perfect, 473 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:28,439 Speaker 3: like where your feed looks like and all that stuff 474 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:29,720 Speaker 3: like that always gets in my head. 475 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 1: Why. 476 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:33,639 Speaker 3: I don't know. It's literally just Instagram, but like it 477 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 3: like night. 478 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 2: Yes, Instagram is a different beast. It really is. 479 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:40,120 Speaker 1: It really takes more fun because it's like you can 480 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:42,399 Speaker 1: do whatever you want on there. Yeah, it's basically a 481 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:43,440 Speaker 1: ramp page. 482 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 2: Yes, But why is that? I don't know. 483 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 3: I don't know when it comes to Instagram, Like I 484 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:51,119 Speaker 3: open it up and I'm like, oh, like does this 485 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 3: look okay? 486 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 2: Like I don't know why. I don't know why either. 487 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:59,200 Speaker 1: I feel like Instagram historically has always felt like mm 488 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:02,200 Speaker 1: almost like a magazine of somebody's life in a way. 489 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:03,640 Speaker 2: And the Pinterest board. 490 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know, but I'm not an aesthetic person, 491 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 1: so I'm I just do my thing on that app amazing. 492 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:12,239 Speaker 2: I'm going to take after you, take after that. Just 493 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:15,879 Speaker 2: do your thing. Yeah, you still love it. Let's talk 494 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 2: about Disney princesses. Okay, okay, so we kind of alluded 495 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 2: to this on the run. 496 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 1: But growing up, I know, you know, you do a 497 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 1: lot of stuff with Disney Disney Channel. I feel like, 498 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:28,120 Speaker 1: growing up, every little girl has a princess that they 499 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:32,679 Speaker 1: love that they see themselves in. Is there a princess, 500 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 1: a Disney princess that you love that you would want 501 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:37,959 Speaker 1: to maybe play in a movie. 502 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:41,120 Speaker 2: She's like I can't say that. 503 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 3: Well. I mean a movie that I really loved growing 504 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:50,160 Speaker 3: up was Tangled. So Rapunzel is one of my favorite princesses. 505 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 3: And I also really love Elsa. Yeah, and I think 506 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:58,400 Speaker 3: Elsa would also be a character. I feel like Rapunzel 507 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:01,399 Speaker 3: and Elsa are two characters that I would love to 508 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 3: play in some capacity somehow. 509 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 2: I love Elseidriypunzel. 510 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 1: I totally see that for you, you went from zombies to 511 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 1: playing a role in the Winchester Yes, yeah, yeah, what 512 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 1: is it like, kind of switching genres? You know? 513 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 2: Is that a challenge to do or was it super 514 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:19,120 Speaker 2: fun for you? 515 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:22,480 Speaker 3: It was so much fun. Yeah, I had the best time. 516 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:24,120 Speaker 3: It was really funny though, because one of the first 517 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 3: episodes we did of Winchester's we were like like brutally 518 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:31,160 Speaker 3: murdering zombies and I was like, wow, this is very 519 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 3: different from something that I did before, where I was 520 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 3: falling in love and singing with the zombies. So very 521 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:40,880 Speaker 3: different projects, but it was so much fun. It's really 522 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 3: fun doing both. I think drama is something that I've 523 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 3: always been really like not scared of, but I think 524 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 3: comedy and theater like that, that's like something I grew 525 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 3: up in and so drama has been like harder for me. 526 00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:59,440 Speaker 3: So I've been working on that more and it's honestly 527 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:02,439 Speaker 3: become like more of a passion these days of like 528 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 3: figuring out like drama and like kind of the emotional 529 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:09,400 Speaker 3: stuff because when I watch things, it's not necessarily I 530 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:14,159 Speaker 3: cannot watch like horror or like really sad movies, like 531 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 3: I have to be in a mood for that. But 532 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 3: I'm so sensitive when it comes to like like when 533 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 3: I'm watching a movie, like. 534 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 2: It feels so real for me. 535 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:23,640 Speaker 3: So most of the time I'll do like animate like 536 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:27,200 Speaker 3: SpongeBob or like Bluey or like stuff because I think 537 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 3: about two stuff weight too much in my life anyways, 538 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:34,359 Speaker 3: So I like like cartoons and happy movies. So yeah, 539 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:37,400 Speaker 3: so drama has been something really cool to get into. 540 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:40,440 Speaker 3: So yeah, Winchesters was definitely very different but also really fun. 541 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like it is fun. 542 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:43,680 Speaker 1: It's also cool like as you grow up to start 543 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 1: playing like different types of roles and you know, throw 544 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:48,679 Speaker 1: yourself into different settings. And it was so cool to 545 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:51,679 Speaker 1: see you in the Winchester Yeah. What is it like 546 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 1: getting into character for that type of a role. What 547 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:55,680 Speaker 1: is your kind of getting into character process. 548 00:23:57,359 --> 00:24:00,080 Speaker 3: For that, I feel like it was a lot of 549 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:04,160 Speaker 3: like prep because the role that I Addison in Zombies 550 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 3: or like Taylor in American Nasa is pretty much just me, 551 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 3: just with like you know, there's some differences but whatever. 552 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 3: Then but this character was so different and then, but 553 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 3: the cool thing is in every character you play, you 554 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:19,680 Speaker 3: get to find similarities of like of how they relate 555 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 3: to you, And so I ended up did relating to 556 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 3: Marry a lot. But on paper she was so different 557 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 3: from me, like very dark and like, you know, a 558 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:31,960 Speaker 3: strong leader and opinionated and like that is just not 559 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:35,359 Speaker 3: me at all. So I think it was just you know, 560 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:37,399 Speaker 3: trying to make it as natural as possible, and so 561 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:40,239 Speaker 3: that took a little time at the beginning, but it 562 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:40,959 Speaker 3: was so worth it. 563 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 2: It was so fun. Yeah. No, I find that so interesting. 564 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 1: Whenever I talk to actors, that is what they say, 565 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 1: like you have to find the commonalities with yourself and 566 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 1: that character, or if you can't, you have to try 567 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:52,440 Speaker 1: your best to just understand that character as a person 568 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 1: and how they would act exactly. Yeah. 569 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:55,480 Speaker 2: I find the whole thing so interesting. 570 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, I feel like you always take a part 571 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:01,200 Speaker 3: them with you. 572 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 2: No matter what. Yeah, and you like. 573 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 3: Kind of always will have like how they think or 574 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:08,119 Speaker 3: feel like with you at some point. 575 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 2: It's really weird. 576 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 1: I don't even know how to describe it. It's like 577 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:12,680 Speaker 1: a really weird feeling. Yeah, what part of Mary do 578 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:15,879 Speaker 1: you feel like you have taken with you? That reminds 579 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:17,639 Speaker 1: me of method acting, Like I feel like a lot 580 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 1: of people that method act kind of sometimes adopt certain traits. 581 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:23,360 Speaker 1: I know, like Ariana Grande playing Glinda for real, her 582 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 1: voice has changed. 583 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, and I think that happens a lot 584 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:28,440 Speaker 3: with like creatives like you kind of just like take 585 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:32,920 Speaker 3: on or like when I it's like those those tiktoks 586 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:35,120 Speaker 3: where it's like like me walking out of a movie 587 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 3: theater with my new personality. 588 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 2: Like you know when you watch a movie. Well maybe I. 589 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 3: Don't know, maybe it's just me, but like you walk 590 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 3: out of a movie theater and you like see like 591 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 3: a character and you think they're so cool or whatever, 592 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 3: and you walk out and you're like, like, this is 593 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:50,240 Speaker 3: my new character. When I was younger, I used to 594 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:52,200 Speaker 3: do that all the time. I think that's what makes 595 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:55,639 Speaker 3: you an actress. Yeah, seriously, we're walking out of the 596 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 3: first Avengers movie, and I like thought I was black widow, 597 00:25:58,040 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 3: and like, for the rest of the night I was 598 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:03,160 Speaker 3: walking around, I was like, wait, that's something I've always done. 599 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 1: I could totally see you casted for a Marvel type 600 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:06,960 Speaker 1: of movie. 601 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 2: Oh my god, that'd be so incredible. Really would that be? Yeah, 602 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 2: that'd be a cool role. 603 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 3: Yes, superhero anything would be so cool, especially like that 604 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 3: whole Marvel face, Like that was my whole upbringing. 605 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 2: I just I loved it so much. 606 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 3: I recently just rewatched all of them in chronological order. 607 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 3: So good, so good. Yeah, I'm so grateful to have 608 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 3: grown up with all of those movies. So the Marvel stuff, 609 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 3: the Marvel stuff is so interesting too. 610 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 1: Because it was funny because we were at the Captain America. Uh, 611 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 1: I had ran with Danny Ramirez, and then we went 612 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:45,359 Speaker 1: after the run to the premiere because our uber driver 613 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 1: that picked us up happened to be this like big 614 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 1: Marvel fan and he and I don't know that much 615 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 1: about Marvel, and he was saying how it's like when 616 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:56,200 Speaker 1: you get casted for a Marvel movie, you really become 617 00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:58,719 Speaker 1: a part of the Marvel universe in a way, and 618 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 1: your your careacter evolves yeah, and I never knew that. 619 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 1: I was like, it's so interesting. So, yeah, that Anthony 620 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 1: Mackie is Captain America. It's a very big deal for 621 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, the so cool, Like I had no idea. 622 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:13,200 Speaker 2: No, yeah, it's so cool. 623 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 3: I feel like in Marvel and also in DC, like 624 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 3: they introduce characters like two three movies ahead and they're 625 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:22,359 Speaker 3: like in a couple of scenes and then they like 626 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 3: it like all intertwines together and like everything is for 627 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 3: a reason. 628 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:27,399 Speaker 2: It's so cool. 629 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 3: And yeah, and Anthony Mackie has been a part of 630 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:32,360 Speaker 3: the universe for oh my god, so long, like right, 631 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:34,879 Speaker 3: so it's so cool to see like where his character 632 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 3: has progressed. 633 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:38,400 Speaker 1: And yeah, Marvel is really cool for that. I need 634 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:40,679 Speaker 1: to go down a deep dive of Marvel because what 635 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 1: the hell. 636 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:44,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was like, are from like in chronological order, 637 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 3: like and watched all of them. 638 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 2: It's so good. It's really really well done. 639 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 1: Maybe I'll switch from White Looatus to to to Marvel. 640 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:53,360 Speaker 2: We're talking about whiteloads. 641 00:27:53,600 --> 00:28:02,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, let's talk about singing. So you just released 642 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:06,159 Speaker 1: a new single. How was the release. Are you feeling 643 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 1: about it? Are you excited? Yeah, I'm really excited. 644 00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:12,719 Speaker 3: I just released a new song, Picky, like last week 645 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 3: and it's doing like I'm really happy with it, I think. 646 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:17,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. 647 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 3: I started releasing music in November of twenty no, February, 648 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:32,120 Speaker 3: wait in like twenty twenty four. Kind of recent, yeah, 649 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 3: super recent. 650 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:33,160 Speaker 1: Wow. 651 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:35,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been a long journey. 652 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 3: I feel like I've always been like writing music and 653 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 3: loving songwriting and everything since I was younger. But because 654 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 3: I was a theater kid, I thought you just like 655 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 3: perform on stage, and that was kind of it. 656 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 2: My imagination kind of didn't expand there. 657 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 3: I didn't realize that you could, like, you know, learn 658 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:55,040 Speaker 3: how to do it on like produce on your computer 659 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 3: or go into a recording studio. Like I really did 660 00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 3: not know that world at all or how it worked. 661 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 3: And so when I was working on Zombies, like there's 662 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 3: a producer of every song, and so I just started 663 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:09,560 Speaker 3: working with one of the producers and kind of just 664 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 3: starting music from there. But it's just been a really 665 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:14,320 Speaker 3: long journey because a lot of the music I've released, 666 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 3: even though I love it so much, it's always been 667 00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:19,320 Speaker 3: kind of in like it never was through Disney, but 668 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,960 Speaker 3: it was always like keeping the Disney Channel audience in 669 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:26,720 Speaker 3: mind and it being like geared towards the younger audience, 670 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 3: and like, honestly, at the time when I was younger, 671 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:31,880 Speaker 3: like my music taste is so eclectic and all over 672 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:33,520 Speaker 3: the place. Like when I was eighteen, I wanted to 673 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:35,240 Speaker 3: do like pure R and B and like that was 674 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:39,479 Speaker 3: like my vibe, which is like not necessarily what I wanted, 675 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 3: but I just as a kid, like you're just figuring 676 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 3: out yourself and who you want to be. And I 677 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:46,960 Speaker 3: had no idea what I wanted my music to sound like. 678 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 3: It was more just like the artists that I loved, 679 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 3: I just wanted to be like them. And so now 680 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 3: I feel like I finally figured out like who I 681 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 3: am or starting to and kind of like blending all 682 00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:01,640 Speaker 3: of my influences and kind of like on sound. 683 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 2: So anyway, it's long story short. 684 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 3: I've started releasing music because I feel like I'm at 685 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 3: a good place now to like actually be like one 686 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 3: hundred percent proud of the stuff that I'm releasing. And yeah, 687 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:15,240 Speaker 3: so it's all working towards an EP in the spring, 688 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:19,959 Speaker 3: which is really fun, and yeah, I'm really excited about it. 689 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,000 Speaker 3: Like I just feel like what we were talking about 690 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:25,240 Speaker 3: earlier with social media, Like it feels really authentic and 691 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 3: just me, and I think that's why I'm so proud 692 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 3: of it, because it's just me so exactly. 693 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:33,719 Speaker 1: It's different than playing a part where you're playing a character. 694 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:37,040 Speaker 1: It's like you are showcasing yourself and what you love. 695 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:41,680 Speaker 1: How would you describe your sound and who are your influences? 696 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:47,560 Speaker 3: Oh goodness, there's so many influences I feel like right now, 697 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:50,360 Speaker 3: like in my Bag and Picky, and then the next 698 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:53,480 Speaker 3: one coming out as well is very inspired by like 699 00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:55,880 Speaker 3: early two thousands, like R and B and hip hop. 700 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 2: It's still very pop. 701 00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:00,320 Speaker 3: I feel like the melodies are very poppy because I 702 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 3: also love pop as well, but it's yeah, really inspired 703 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:07,480 Speaker 3: by that kind of like Y two K era, because 704 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:12,000 Speaker 3: that's I feel like, like the late or just all 705 00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 3: of nineties, Like early two thousands is like the golden 706 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,040 Speaker 3: age of R and B and hip hop. 707 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 2: So yeah, it's really cool. 708 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 3: And then I also love yacht rock, so a lot 709 00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 3: of the songs upcoming have a lot of like yacht 710 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:28,080 Speaker 3: rock influences. 711 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:29,680 Speaker 2: What is yacht rock? Why do I not know what 712 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 2: that is? It's like. 713 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:37,960 Speaker 3: It's like eighty like eighties synths, like kind of like 714 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 3: like what would be like a yacht rock song like 715 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:41,920 Speaker 3: Africa by Toto. 716 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:50,280 Speaker 2: I don't know, Oh my god, yes, yes, are like, oh. 717 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:53,880 Speaker 3: That's so cool to do magic then or like Steely 718 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:58,640 Speaker 3: Dan vibes, Like it's all very like it's basically rock 719 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 3: that you'd play. 720 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 2: On a yacht in the middle of the ocean, and you're. 721 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:04,720 Speaker 1: Just kind of like, Okay, now I'm getting the Bob 722 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 1: Marley shit right. 723 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:06,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. 724 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,840 Speaker 3: Also, I mean my number one influence is Bob Marley. 725 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 3: I love that none of my songs really have like 726 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:15,960 Speaker 3: reggae influence in there, but his like just life philosophy, 727 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,239 Speaker 3: just like struggling with a lot of anxiety growing up, 728 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:22,800 Speaker 3: he was like the only music and like I would 729 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:25,360 Speaker 3: watch his interviews and like he's like the only thing 730 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 3: that would like help me get through just a lot 731 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:30,640 Speaker 3: of like hard times growing up as a kid, because 732 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:34,240 Speaker 3: like everything he says is just that everything's gonna be okay, 733 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:36,320 Speaker 3: everything's gonna be all right. 734 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:38,360 Speaker 1: So I was like, you're right, Bob, I need to 735 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:40,160 Speaker 1: go back and watch his interviews because I feel like 736 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,600 Speaker 1: I've never seen a Bob Marley interview. Yeah, And I 737 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:46,960 Speaker 1: could imagine how that's calming when you're feeling anxious about something. 738 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:49,840 Speaker 1: Because I feel like he was so successful and just 739 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 1: had this really calm demeanor to him. 740 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:55,120 Speaker 2: I was like, it's all good. Oh yeah, no, it's incredible. 741 00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:58,200 Speaker 3: Like I feel like reggae is like the most amazing 742 00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,840 Speaker 3: and also a lot of like Island Gay listened to, 743 00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:06,280 Speaker 3: like like like Polynesian reggae so incredible, and like it 744 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:09,920 Speaker 3: just instantly soothes you and calms you down and like 745 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 3: puts you at ease, especially if you're feeling stressed or 746 00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:15,280 Speaker 3: anything like that. So like, I think reggae is a 747 00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 3: huge part of my life in that way because it 748 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:21,080 Speaker 3: just really helps with just you know, my stress level. 749 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 2: So that's so cool. 750 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:26,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like I know you're an East Coast girl, yes, 751 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:30,040 Speaker 1: growing up huh. But being in LA, we're here for 752 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:32,520 Speaker 1: you know, we've been here for the past month, We're 753 00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:34,760 Speaker 1: gonna be here for a little bit longer. And I 754 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:36,560 Speaker 1: feel like every time I come here from New York, 755 00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 1: I instantly feel calmer. Yeah yeah, right, Like having grown 756 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:42,320 Speaker 1: up in New York, do you feel like now living 757 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:42,880 Speaker 1: in LA. 758 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:45,320 Speaker 2: Is good for the mental Oh yeah, yeah yeah. 759 00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 3: I always like I feel like when I first moved 760 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,160 Speaker 3: here for the first couple of years, I was like, 761 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:53,040 Speaker 3: I need to get back home, and every time I 762 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:57,080 Speaker 3: met somebody, like my whole personality was like, yeah, I'm 763 00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:57,720 Speaker 3: from New York. 764 00:33:57,840 --> 00:33:59,760 Speaker 2: That'd be one of the first things. It's so obnoxious. 765 00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:00,360 Speaker 2: Oh oh god. 766 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:02,600 Speaker 3: So like I always was like, New York is really 767 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:05,480 Speaker 3: the best. Now when I go to New York, I 768 00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:08,600 Speaker 3: miss La. I feel like that's the you know, that 769 00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:11,600 Speaker 3: means that La is my home as well now because 770 00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:13,720 Speaker 3: I kind of miss both. Wherever i'm at, I always 771 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,360 Speaker 3: miss New York, but like now I miss both. So 772 00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:20,520 Speaker 3: I'm kind of happy wherever. But my blood has beenned 773 00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:22,719 Speaker 3: so much. Whenever I go back to New York and 774 00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:26,600 Speaker 3: it's cold, I feel so weak because I've gone so 775 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:28,040 Speaker 3: used to this amazing weather. 776 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:29,080 Speaker 2: No, it's literally perfect. 777 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:32,560 Speaker 3: To your guys, lain't beat the weather here now, and 778 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:36,279 Speaker 3: so I've definitely gotten used to that. There's pros and 779 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:38,640 Speaker 3: const to both, but I definitely feel a lot more 780 00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:41,319 Speaker 3: relaxed in my suburban neighborhood in La Forge. 781 00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:45,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's refreshing being in a suburban neighborhood in a city. 782 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:46,959 Speaker 2: I feel like that's the thing. 783 00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:49,240 Speaker 1: That makes La so cool, is it feels very grounding, 784 00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:52,440 Speaker 1: which we all need, especially in this crazy industry. Sure, 785 00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:54,960 Speaker 1: let's talk about this. You've been working in the industry 786 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,279 Speaker 1: since you were a teenager. So if you could go 787 00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:01,520 Speaker 1: back and give your teenage self one piece advice for 788 00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:05,279 Speaker 1: all the girls and guys listening, what would it be. 789 00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:13,200 Speaker 3: I think with the like industry wise, I think, if 790 00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:15,520 Speaker 3: you want to be in this industry and you feel 791 00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:18,360 Speaker 3: really passionate about it, I feel like making sure that 792 00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:22,319 Speaker 3: you are really into it and passionate about it and 793 00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:24,280 Speaker 3: it's not it's kind of like for the right reason. 794 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:27,080 Speaker 3: It's for you, and it's for like your creativity and 795 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:28,640 Speaker 3: what you want to put out in the world, and 796 00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:32,000 Speaker 3: not for maybe like you know, more superficial reasons. 797 00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:33,480 Speaker 2: Because I feel like I had to figure that. 798 00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:35,480 Speaker 3: Out for myself. I was like do I actually want 799 00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:37,920 Speaker 3: to do this? Or like why am I doing this? 800 00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:40,400 Speaker 3: And I think, in realizing of like, oh no, I 801 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:43,400 Speaker 3: actually want to do It's just such a tough industry 802 00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:45,520 Speaker 3: and it's really hard. And I feel like if it's 803 00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:47,919 Speaker 3: something you're really passionate about, though, then I would say 804 00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:52,160 Speaker 3: stick with it because it takes a while, but it's 805 00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:54,560 Speaker 3: so worth it in the end. But make sure that 806 00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:56,920 Speaker 3: you really really love it and want to do it 807 00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:01,520 Speaker 3: for your soul and heart. And then kind of what 808 00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:04,560 Speaker 3: we were saying before, I feel like just teenagers in 809 00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:09,080 Speaker 3: general that are you know, in middle school high school 810 00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:12,040 Speaker 3: is just like is stop growing up? I feel like, 811 00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:16,120 Speaker 3: you know, take your time and enjoy what age you're at. 812 00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:18,439 Speaker 2: At least I wish I could tell myself that. 813 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,319 Speaker 3: Because I feel like, right now, and this is an 814 00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:25,359 Speaker 3: over generalization, but I feel like right now it kind 815 00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,920 Speaker 3: of goes from like toddler to like teenager. There's no 816 00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:30,960 Speaker 3: like tweens anymore, you know, I'm like, just be a tween, 817 00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:36,359 Speaker 3: just like like where weird stuff and do terrible make 818 00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:40,239 Speaker 3: up and you know, like where like funky clips in 819 00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:42,759 Speaker 3: your Like I have the craziest awkward phase and I 820 00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:47,160 Speaker 3: think that's so okay, And like I gess and like, 821 00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:49,080 Speaker 3: I don't think you you have to because you have 822 00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:52,480 Speaker 3: so much time. And now that I'm I'm still so 823 00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:55,080 Speaker 3: young and I feel like I've lived so many lives 824 00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:57,680 Speaker 3: and I just wish that I, you know, stayed like 825 00:36:57,760 --> 00:36:59,880 Speaker 3: true to myself and my age and didn't try to 826 00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:03,160 Speaker 3: be something that I was not, so to be authentic 827 00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:06,040 Speaker 3: to you that's what I'm trying to do. 828 00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:08,920 Speaker 1: So yeah, I feel like so many people are gonna 829 00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:11,400 Speaker 1: be like, Meg, you did not have an awkward face, 830 00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:12,439 Speaker 1: Like let me. 831 00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:14,040 Speaker 2: Tell yeah, I did. Let me tell you. 832 00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:16,480 Speaker 1: I always feel that way though, with people that get 833 00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:18,480 Speaker 1: casted so young for these things, like you guys are 834 00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:21,120 Speaker 1: always so beautiful and look so good. It's like hard 835 00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:23,520 Speaker 1: to imagine. It's hard to imagine, like Miley Cyrus with 836 00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:25,799 Speaker 1: an awkward phase, you know, I always think about that, 837 00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:27,920 Speaker 1: but like she would say I had an awkward face. 838 00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:30,120 Speaker 3: But in my mind, I would be like, absolutely not. 839 00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:32,920 Speaker 3: I feel like even just on American Housewife, I went 840 00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:35,480 Speaker 3: from sixteen to twenty one, and like I went through 841 00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:38,440 Speaker 3: some like some like people will send me clips from 842 00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:40,440 Speaker 3: it or like my parents will be watching whatever and 843 00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:40,759 Speaker 3: I see it. 844 00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,360 Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, dear god. I was like, that was 845 00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:43,759 Speaker 2: not me. 846 00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:48,920 Speaker 3: But like people might not like think like that because 847 00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:51,040 Speaker 3: it's not you. So like when you see somebody else, 848 00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:53,000 Speaker 3: you're easily like, oh my god, no, you look amazing. 849 00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:57,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, but in my world, I was like that was awful. 850 00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:59,160 Speaker 1: You know. No, It's so weird going back and looking 851 00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:01,919 Speaker 1: at old photos, even from a year ago, like it's 852 00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:03,960 Speaker 1: weird looking at how much you evolve in a year. 853 00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:06,319 Speaker 3: I know, it's crazy, even in like a week. I 854 00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:07,960 Speaker 3: always say that, I'm like, I'm not even the same 855 00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:09,879 Speaker 3: person I was like two weeks ago, no. 856 00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:13,359 Speaker 2: Let alone a year ago. Yeah, I feel that. Oh goodness, Yeah, 857 00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:16,000 Speaker 2: we're changing a lot. Twenty four is in your twenty four. Yeah, 858 00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:17,719 Speaker 2: twenty four is a big age. It is. 859 00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:21,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, twenty forty twenty five your prefrontal cortex or whatever 860 00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:23,560 Speaker 1: it is, your brain fully developed, and oh. 861 00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:25,880 Speaker 2: Yeah I feel it. I feel it developing. Yeah, Sully 862 00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:27,319 Speaker 2: w Su really but yeah, I know. 863 00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:30,600 Speaker 3: These past day years have just been so wild, and 864 00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:32,800 Speaker 3: I feel like I think it's okay to like change 865 00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:35,760 Speaker 3: and you know, and like that's like we're always changing, 866 00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:36,759 Speaker 3: and it's okay. 867 00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:38,720 Speaker 2: As you should, as you should, Okay. 868 00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:41,440 Speaker 1: As we finish up the podcast, I want you to 869 00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:43,359 Speaker 1: just tell us what are some of the things that 870 00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:45,880 Speaker 1: you're super excited about that you're working on that you 871 00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:50,600 Speaker 1: want everybody to know about or look forward to knowing about. 872 00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:54,200 Speaker 2: I'm so excited for my new music to come out. 873 00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:56,279 Speaker 3: I feel like I've been working so hard on it 874 00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:58,799 Speaker 3: and I feel really happy about it. And so you know, 875 00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:01,920 Speaker 3: this spring will be like the EP coming out and 876 00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:05,399 Speaker 3: then more music after that, so I'm really excited about 877 00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:09,359 Speaker 3: that and then and then the only thing I can 878 00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:13,520 Speaker 3: really talk about is Zombies four, which I still can't 879 00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:16,000 Speaker 3: even really talk about that, but it is coming out 880 00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:17,960 Speaker 3: this year and that's all I can say. 881 00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:20,399 Speaker 2: So I'm really really excited for that. Are you allowed 882 00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:22,239 Speaker 2: to say where you guys filmed? Yes? 883 00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:25,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, we filmed in New Zealand, which was so cool. 884 00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:28,840 Speaker 3: And also something I'm looking forward to is telling everybody 885 00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:30,520 Speaker 3: to go to New Zealand if you can, if you 886 00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:32,800 Speaker 3: have the opportunity to people in America. 887 00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:34,160 Speaker 2: I know it's so far. 888 00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:37,440 Speaker 3: Away, but it's the most magical place in the entire world, 889 00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:38,959 Speaker 3: so it's so cool. 890 00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:40,200 Speaker 2: I love Ken. 891 00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:42,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, everybody go to New Zealand. Go to New Zealand, 892 00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:46,960 Speaker 1: have so much fun. Tag Meg and all your pictures. 893 00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:48,279 Speaker 2: You knows that you're there. 894 00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:52,719 Speaker 1: Thank you, guys so much for watching today's episode with Meg. 895 00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:53,680 Speaker 2: Meg You're amazing. 896 00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:55,840 Speaker 1: Thank you. Thank you having me of course, thank you 897 00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,040 Speaker 1: for running with me and sitting down and chatting. I'm 898 00:39:58,080 --> 00:39:58,839 Speaker 1: so excited for you. 899 00:39:58,880 --> 00:39:59,239 Speaker 3: Thank you. 900 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,719 Speaker 1: Should you subscribe and hit that bell notification to see 901 00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:11,520 Speaker 1: what we post next. Him m m m hmm.