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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, a private investigator drops a

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Speaker 1: bombshell in a new probe and teen girl Celeste her body,

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Speaker 1: her decomposing body found in the Singer D four VD

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Speaker 1: aka David Anthony Burks tesla.

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Speaker 2: I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. I want to

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Speaker 2: thank you for being with us.

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Speaker 1: Celeste is found dead in the trunk of his tesla.

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Speaker 2: Her body was an advanced state of decomposer. Who would

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Speaker 2: have a motive to kill her?

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Speaker 3: It's obviously a homicide.

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Speaker 1: A private investigator says that after amassing ring, doorbell cam

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Speaker 1: and other camp from all around the neighborhood, he knows

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Speaker 1: who and when D for VD aka David.

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Speaker 2: Anthony Burks tesla was moved. Do I care about the tesla?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 2: Do I care who put the tesla there or moved it?

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Speaker 1: Yes, because I believe that person had knowledge the Celeste body,

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Speaker 1: a little girl, was decomposing in the truck. If he

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Speaker 1: knows that, certainly the LAPD knows that.

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Speaker 5: Listen Lauden Travunevik, the owner of the home Burke was

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Speaker 5: renting for twenty thousand dollars a month, has hired a

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Speaker 5: private investigator, Steve Fisher to try and find out what

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Speaker 5: was happening in the home he owns. Fisher was hired

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Speaker 5: shortly after a forced search entry search warrant was served

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Speaker 5: at the home. Nobody was home when police served a

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Speaker 5: search warrant.

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Speaker 6: The LAPD says Celeste had been deceased for weeks before

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Speaker 6: being discovered in Burke's tesla. Private investigator Steve Fisher says

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Speaker 6: he has seen surveillance video from neighbor homes and knows

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Speaker 6: exactly when the tesla was last moved and who moved

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Speaker 6: it to the location from where it was towed in

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Speaker 6: very late.

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Speaker 1: July, and the only way to amass that information. To

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Speaker 1: gather it is from the cams in the neighborhood.

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Speaker 5: Listen surveillance cameras in the Hollywood Hills built a complete

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Speaker 5: timeline showing when Burg's tesla was parked on Bluebird Avenue,

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Speaker 5: who parked it, and whether anything was placed in the

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Speaker 5: vehicle after it was parked. There's also no evidence indicating

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Speaker 5: Celest's body was transferred into the tesla after it was

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Speaker 5: parked on the street.

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Speaker 1: And we were learning so much more. For instance, apparently

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Speaker 1: the tesla on the street was the one that David

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Speaker 1: Anthony Burke aka Burt d FOURVD used mostly but then

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Speaker 1: another tesla was in his garage and the tesla on

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Speaker 1: the street looked like it had been out in the elements.

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Speaker 1: Joining me in All Star panel, but first joining us

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Speaker 1: tonight the private investigator that says he knows who moved

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Speaker 1: the car and went joining me right now. Private investigator

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Speaker 1: Steve Fisher. He's been on the case from the very

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Speaker 1: very beginning, missing person's private investigator, search and rescue specialist

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Speaker 1: and owner of Search Investigations.

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Speaker 2: He is the one hired by.

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Speaker 1: The Hollywood Hills property renter, the leaser where the four

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Speaker 1: VD David Burke was living. Stave Fisher. First of all,

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Speaker 1: how did you get hired on the case? How did

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Speaker 1: that go down?

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Speaker 2: So?

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Speaker 7: I was originally looking into the case because I had

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Speaker 7: another missing person's case and we thought that they that

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Speaker 7: might be the female, and then once she was identified,

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Speaker 7: we knew it wasn't. But I had accumulated some information

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Speaker 7: and I had put out there publicly and the owner

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Speaker 7: got in touch with me.

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Speaker 8: You know about that, And that's how I do evolved.

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Speaker 1: Okay, the owner of the house or the manager who

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Speaker 1: who got in touch with you? The guy that owns

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Speaker 1: the house, the actual.

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Speaker 7: Owner of the house city him and his wife.

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Speaker 1: Okay, you claim, Steve Fisher, that you know when the car,

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Speaker 1: David Anthony Burg's car was part there. That's important to

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Speaker 1: me because I believe her body, Celest's body, the little

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Speaker 1: girl's body was already in the vehicle when it was parked.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, no, I agree with you.

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Speaker 9: I think it was too It was.

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Speaker 7: I'll tell you it was July twenty ninth, and it

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Speaker 7: was midday, the mid morning, or I should say, And

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Speaker 7: I do know. You know who was that moved it

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Speaker 7: right now it's saying who that is. But I'll tell

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Speaker 7: you it's not far the area they moved it.

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Speaker 1: Put him up, Steve Fisher. Have you heard the phrase

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Speaker 1: word salad. It's like all the words jumbled up together.

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Speaker 1: You might might have an onion or a tomato. I

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Speaker 1: don't know what you just said. Okay, I know who

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Speaker 1: hired You've gotten that far with you. Listen. I'm a JD,

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Speaker 1: not a DDS. But you give me a set of

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Speaker 1: pliers and I think I could pull your twoth.

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Speaker 2: You've told me who hired you, You told me.

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Speaker 1: Why you were hired. You're on another missing person's case.

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Speaker 1: You amassed information from that neighborhood. You put it out there.

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Speaker 1: Somebody saw that and hired you on this case. All right,

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Speaker 1: you're not hired by D four VD aka David. You're

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Speaker 1: not hired by the guy that leased the house. I

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Speaker 1: got that far with you. Let's back it up to

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Speaker 1: right there.

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Speaker 2: Repeat.

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Speaker 1: You claim that you have amassed cam camera video camera

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Speaker 1: evidence from the neighborhood, and that having looked at that,

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Speaker 1: you've placed you've pieced together a timeline, and you know

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Speaker 1: when Burke's tesla with a dead body in it, I

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Speaker 1: think was first part in the neighborhood, when the first

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Speaker 1: part in the neighborhood, it moved to that.

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Speaker 7: Last spot on July twenty ninth at about eleven something

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Speaker 7: in the morning, and I'll tell you it was in

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Speaker 7: the same shape that we saw it in those toe

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Speaker 7: photos where it was completely dirty and trashed. I could

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Speaker 7: tell that they had run the windshield wiper once just

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Speaker 7: so they could see out of it, and they had

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Speaker 7: rolled the window down to move it even though they're

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Speaker 7: moving about a block and a half. But it was

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Speaker 7: in that condition still, so it had not been used

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Speaker 7: in a long time. They had clearly been just moving

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Speaker 7: it around different areas of the neighborhood too.

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Speaker 1: Randy Kissler, veteran trial lawyer joining us at the Atlanta

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Speaker 1: Jurisdiction Emery Law, Professor, Foreign Chair of the ABA American

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Speaker 1: Bar Association Family Law Section, and author of Divorce, Protect Yourself,

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Speaker 1: Your Kids, your future. Randy, have you ever had to

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Speaker 1: have a witness, and it can be your witness declared

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Speaker 1: a hostile witness on the stand? I hate doing that.

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Speaker 1: I don't mind doing it to the sides witness. I

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Speaker 1: do that all the time, But with my own witness,

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Speaker 1: if I can't get an answer out of them, you

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Speaker 1: ask the judge, Judge, I'd like the witness to be

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Speaker 1: declared a hostile witness. What does that mean? I can

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Speaker 1: then cross examine my own witness. Have you ever done

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Speaker 1: that with your own witness?

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Speaker 8: You mean like you're just doing Steve Fisher. Absolutely, it's

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Speaker 8: sort of fun, exactly. You know, when you're.

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Speaker 10: Direct examined and you're limited, you can only ask open

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Speaker 8: What happened?

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Speaker 10: But on cross if you can treat your own witness,

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Speaker 10: the one that you know what they're going to say,

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Speaker 10: as hostile It's.

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Speaker 8: Wonderful because then you can say isn't it true?

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Speaker 10: Excellent, and then we get to testify in essence, right,

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Speaker 10: you get to testify and say didn't this happen?

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Speaker 8: Didn't it go like this, isn't this what happened? Because

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Speaker 8: you know the fact.

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Speaker 2: You want to was a yes no answer. Kessler.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate all that, but have you ever had your

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Speaker 1: own witness declared as a hostile witness?

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Speaker 8: Yes?

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Speaker 1: Amazing, Okay, you do that when the witness is refusing

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Speaker 1: to answer your questions. You think you knew what they

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Speaker 1: in this surprise, guys.

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Speaker 2: They don't.

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Speaker 1: Okay that in mind, back to private investigator Steve Fisher,

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Speaker 1: I did manage to get some information out of you

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Speaker 1: that I didn't know that being July twenty nine, eleven,

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Speaker 1: am Burke's tesla was moved to its last location.

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Speaker 2: Is that correct?

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Speaker 8: Correct?

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Speaker 2: Okay? Do you know where it was parked before that?

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Speaker 7: I don't know because from the house that was taken

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Speaker 7: from is a little bit down the hill, but on

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Speaker 7: the same street that the.

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Speaker 8: Rental house is on.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so you're telling me the tesla that hill. Celeste

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Speaker 1: decomposing body is on the same was ultimately left on

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Speaker 1: the same street where he was living.

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Speaker 7: It looked like he was coming from the rental house.

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Speaker 7: He can't say for sure, but there's only a few

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Speaker 7: and it would came down that road and was turning

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Speaker 7: onto where you'd go up the Bluebird there where it

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Speaker 1: Okay, are you telling me, I'm having to interpret everything

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Speaker 1: you're saying, Steve.

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Speaker 2: Are you you're.

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Speaker 1: Talking private investigator talk? Are you telling me on a

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Speaker 1: video you can see the tesla coming from the direction

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Speaker 7: Yeah, So how the road is curved, and so the

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Speaker 7: house that captured that is kind of at the base

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Speaker 7: of the curve, so you can't see you see it

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Speaker 7: coming down the road, you can't see exactly where it started,

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Speaker 7: and you can't see the driveway of the rental house.

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Speaker 2: It stops right before that the cam rangle does wow. Okay.

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Speaker 1: Reminder D four V D aka David Anthony Burke is innocent.

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Speaker 1: He hasn't been charged with anything. Crime stories with Nancy

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Speaker 1: Grace joining me right now, p R Guru to celebrities

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Speaker 1: like DFOURVD, David Anthony Burke Rob Shooter joining us, host

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Speaker 1: of Not Even Nice podcast, author of an upcoming novel.

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Speaker 1: It started with a whisper excellent title and you can

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Speaker 1: find it Robshooter dot substack dot com. Okay, Shooter, I'm

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Speaker 1: going to go into this in depth later, but other

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Speaker 1: celebrities have actually gone on social media and said, Wow,

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Speaker 1: I want Burke dfourvd's downloads. In this case, a dead

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Speaker 1: body in your trunk can really hurt your reputation. So

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Speaker 1: what do you make of how dfour VD David Anthony

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Speaker 1: Burke is going to get out of the fact.

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Speaker 2: That Fisher just dropped like a bomb. He's got video.

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Speaker 1: Of the tesla coming around the curve from the direction

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Speaker 1: of Burke's house, his mansion.

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Speaker 2: And it's got the body in it. He's watched the video.

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Speaker 1: He never sees the body or anything else being put

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Speaker 1: was already in the car and it's coming from Burke's house.

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Speaker 1: What are you going to do with that, pr guru, Yeah, Nancy,

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Speaker 1: anything you can do it on the front of Vogue.

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Speaker 12: The only thing you can do in these situations, if

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Speaker 12: you were innocent, is tell the truth.

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Speaker 9: Lawyers hate that. Lawyers hate it when publicists get involved.

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Speaker 12: But here they're not just fighting, but they're legal, their

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Speaker 12: legal future, but also their professional their their reputation, and

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Speaker 12: so we would encourage them, if they were innocent, to

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Speaker 12: tell their side of the story, to get that out now.

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Speaker 12: So it's very very tricky here. You have to sit

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Speaker 12: with your client, You have to have a really serious conversation,

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Speaker 12: and they have to basically tell you are they innocent?

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Speaker 9: Are they guilty?

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Speaker 12: And if they are innocent, then he's got an amazing

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Speaker 12: story to tell everything here.

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Speaker 9: Look, it's really bad for him.

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Speaker 12: However, if this is awesome, terrible, crazy misunderstanding, this is

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Speaker 12: an amazing story, and so if he can tell that,

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Speaker 12: then he'll be okay. But once again, he has to

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Speaker 12: be innocent.

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Speaker 1: I had to hear your hol spiel before I jumped

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Speaker 1: in some quote terrible misunderstanding, Control room. Can you show

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Speaker 9: What I call the.

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Speaker 12: Terrible misunderstanding is him being blamed for this. That's what

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Speaker 1: You know, Rob Shooter, you can really hurt your crotch

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Speaker 1: when you're riding the fence that way. Okay, just be

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Speaker 1: Assist of Exclusives editor us son Let's follow up on

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Speaker 1: Shooter's terrible misunderstanding comment a rapid fire Katie, A thank

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Speaker 1: four fey d David Anthony Burke ever report his tesla missing?

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Speaker 11: That is the main thing that I found very interesting,

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Speaker 11: I think It is very interesting. You know, if you

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Speaker 2: And also yes, lay the car as well.

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Speaker 1: Did you did hear me say lightning round right?

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Speaker 12: Yes?

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Speaker 2: Did he ever report his tesla missing? Absolutely not? Okay

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Speaker 2: did he ever report Celeste missing? Absolutely not?

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Speaker 1: So you know, back to you shooter, certainly she's gone

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Speaker 1: and he doesn't report her missing or his tesla missing.

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Speaker 2: How do you again, fluff.

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Speaker 2: What how do you pick the hasard?

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Speaker 9: She has a history of running away.

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Speaker 12: This is somebody who left many many relationships, many many lives,

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Speaker 12: not not blaming the victim here, Nancy, at all. But

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Speaker 12: That's how it is going to be presented. It's going

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Speaker 9: He didn't.

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Speaker 12: He didn't think this was that unusual. It's a very

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Speaker 9: That's how they're going to position it.

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Speaker 1: And that is why all the stars hire Rob Sheoter

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Speaker 1: as their PR guru. Okay, bang to Steve Fisher. Fisher,

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Speaker 1: then't forget about you. Steve Fisher is a very high

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Speaker 2: So so far I've gotten out of you tonight.

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Speaker 1: That the tesla, ultimately with selest body in it, was

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Speaker 1: moved to the last locations July twenty nine eleven am

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Speaker 7: Right, Yeah, as an horrible condition, same condition that you

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Speaker 1: You also told me that you saw video of the

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Speaker 2: Is that correct?

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Speaker 8: That's correct?

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Speaker 2: What day did you see that?

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Speaker 8: It was on? July twenty nineties.

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Speaker 1: Steve Fisher, did you see any cam video, camera video

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Speaker 7: I have seen the images that I obtained from the

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Speaker 7: Deferment Transportation on the day it was ticketed and toad

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Speaker 8: At that time.

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Speaker 2: Could you give me those dates again?

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Speaker 1: Place the dates that you observe the car part on

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Speaker 7: First time I've seen it part was May of twenty

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Speaker 9: Was ultimately towed from.

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Speaker 8: And then the other imagery I.

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Speaker 7: Have is from the Defermative Transportation. I'm sure those images

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Speaker 7: you're showing now that I obtained when they took when

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Speaker 8: The towing.

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Speaker 7: And then I do have one from earlier in January

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Speaker 7: It shows that it's very clean but does have that

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Speaker 2: Okay, got it?

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Speaker 1: So you're saying May twenty twenty five is the earliest

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Speaker 1: But to U Katie Forrester, when do we believe when

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Speaker 2: So it's actually quite hard to tell.

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Speaker 11: But she went missing a year prior and then as

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Speaker 11: far as I know because I spoke to family, she

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Speaker 1: Dave mac, We have shown over and over the photo

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Speaker 1: of celestis little teen girl age thirteen at a concert

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Speaker 2: If we could pull up that.

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Speaker 1: Video please, as I recall that was August the fourth,

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Speaker 1: Is that correct?

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Speaker 5: Yes, ma'am, get on, that was in August Maryland.

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Speaker 1: This from at clips of David on TikTok. How can

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Speaker 1: Celest's body was found in a black tube top and

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Speaker 1: ripped jeans. You could smell the trunk as you approached

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Speaker 1: August the fourth at the D four VD David Burke concert.

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Speaker 1: So I'm trying to narrow down the timeline, Fisher, That's

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Speaker 1: what I'm doing here.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: I'd like to understand you saw a person emerge from

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Speaker 7: No, I didn't get out of So they drove by

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Speaker 7: the test I could tell who it was, but then

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Speaker 7: they're too far out of range, you know, when they

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Speaker 2: Well, that's that's even much better.

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Speaker 1: So you're telling me it's not the person getting in

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Speaker 2: They drive by a camp and.

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Speaker 1: That's July twenty nine, correct, correct? And you get a

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Speaker 9: A face shot?

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Speaker 7: And because the tesla is so you know, has some

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Speaker 1: D four VD aka David Anthony Burke is innocent. He

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Speaker 1: hasn't been charged with anything. So let me ask you this,

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Speaker 1: Steve Fisher, are you familiar with all of the people

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Speaker 2: You know what they look like?

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Speaker 7: I do, now, I didn't you know at that time,

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Speaker 7: There's a lot of photos of them. We came into

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Speaker 2: Steve Fisher, why won't you divulge who was driving the

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Speaker 7: I'll tell you I would like to, I'll be honest

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Speaker 7: have my client's permission. That's just something a regulation that

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Speaker 7: I'm bound by. And right now they want to give

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Speaker 7: because it's been seven weeks and I don't understand why,

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Speaker 7: at least the concealment charge it can't be dropped by

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Speaker 8: So I don't agree with that. I would put it

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Speaker 1: You mentioned you got a clear picture of the driver's face.

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Speaker 1: Was the window rolled down?

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Speaker 7: It was rolled down, and they were only going a

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Speaker 1: And obviously to doctor Kendall Crown's joining as Chief Medical

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Speaker 1: Burnett School of Medicine at TCU, Doctor Kendall Crowns, by

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Speaker 1: that point, with a decomposing body in the car in

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Speaker 2: I know why they roll down the window, Doctor Crown.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So there's going to be March decomposition. The body

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Speaker 1: I find it very difficult to believe, Randy Kessler, a

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Speaker 1: Fisher won't divulge, could not smell the overwhelming odor of decomposition,

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Speaker 10: I agree, but they could also say, you know, it's California,

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Speaker 10: alternate explanations, which defense lawyers who.

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Speaker 8: Of course use.

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Speaker 1: Here you're seeing a demonstration by Scott Iiker he did

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Speaker 1: But yet you won't divulge who it was.

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Speaker 7: I think, greeting very close, I'm hoping they want to

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Speaker 7: give you my client wants to give Laped a little

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Speaker 7: I'm very much a personal rapper information out there and

446
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Speaker 7: try to get people to get nervous and make statements

447
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Speaker 7: and stuff. So if it was up to me, it

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Speaker 7: would be out there. It's just not my decision one

449
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Speaker 7: hundred percent, you know, But I.

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Speaker 2: Well, Steve, let me ask you another question.

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Speaker 1: I understand you're not telling me, fine, Steve, have Celeste

452
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Speaker 1: family called you or has D four VD David Burke

453
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Speaker 1: called you and said, who parked.

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Speaker 2: The car with her body in it? Who have they called?

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Speaker 2: And asked?

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Speaker 8: No, nobody has.

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Speaker 7: And I'm kind of surprised me that I would love

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Speaker 7: to talk to your Sliss family about this, and even

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Speaker 7: the person that I listened, I've gotten zero calls from

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Speaker 7: anybody on David's side or last side.

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Speaker 1: Randy Kessler joining US defense attorney out of Atlanta, Randy Casser,

462
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Speaker 1: wouldn't he call Steve Fish and go, you got that video?

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Speaker 1: Who was driving my car with the US body in it?

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Speaker 2: Tell me? Don't you think he would want to know?

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Speaker 10: I think it's exact opposite of what Rob Shooter told you,

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Speaker 10: which is, you know, tell your innocence, try to figure

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Speaker 10: it out if you're innocent.

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Speaker 8: Lawyers are telling him, don't do anything.

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Speaker 10: Make them prove their case, whatever the situation is, even

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Speaker 10: if you care about this girl and you.

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Speaker 1: Love her and you dorm make sure what case what

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Speaker 1: make the laped prove what case?

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Speaker 8: The potential case.

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Speaker 10: Is they're going to prove or they're going to indict,

475
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Speaker 10: or they're going to charge, or they're going to arrest David,

476
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Speaker 10: or they're going to try to make it seem that

477
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Speaker 10: he's anything this entertainer says, or anything anyone on his

478
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Speaker 10: behalf says is going to be used against him.

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Speaker 8: Right now.

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Speaker 10: He's in a world of trouble, reputation wise, maybe freedom wise.

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Speaker 10: I think he's doing what he's supposed to do, which

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Speaker 10: is just not say.

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Speaker 1: Casseler if I love very misleading.

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Speaker 10: Oh how many times have you heard the lawyer say,

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Speaker 10: I don't care how innocent you are, you don't say

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Speaker 10: a word because saying something might make it worse than

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Speaker 10: it is right now, Right now, they don't have enough

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Speaker 10: to prosecute me.

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Speaker 1: That's not what I'm talking about, Okay, I'm talking about this.

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Speaker 1: He didn't have to do it. He could have his

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Speaker 1: lawyer do it. That's not going to come into evidence.

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Speaker 1: You cannot put Fisher up on the stand and say

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Speaker 1: what did the lawyer say to you?

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Speaker 2: That's your say and there's no exception.

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Speaker 8: I don't want any more when I have a.

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Speaker 2: Lawyer call and say, hey, who was driving his car?

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Speaker 10: Because it creates a conversation, It creates in you into,

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Speaker 10: it creates implications, it creates.

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Speaker 2: Tonation, I love Mary, did you play football?

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Speaker 1: Because he absolutely can have his lawyer call and say

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Speaker 1: who was driving my car?

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Speaker 9: Why that would not come.

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Speaker 1: Into evans unless David said it himself.

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Speaker 10: Why why even start the conversation? Why not wait until

505
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Speaker 10: they're going to come out and they're going.

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Speaker 2: To sell you this much.

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Speaker 1: If my husband was decomposing in somebody's trunk, I would

508
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Speaker 1: be jumping on their chest until I found out who

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Speaker 1: drove the car.

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Speaker 2: There knows.

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Speaker 8: But if you're under suspicion and.

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Speaker 1: Possibly guarantee you I'm not going to kill him, well,

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Speaker 1: nobody's going to tell me you're talking crazy. Don't have

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Speaker 1: a strength. Doctor Delatory with me. Doctor John Delatory, Psychologists,

515
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Speaker 1: mediator specializing in forensic psychology.

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Speaker 2: Doctor delatory.

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Speaker 1: Did you just hear everything that Rob Shooter and Randy

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Speaker 1: Kessler said, all the big misunderstanding, the little problem of

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Speaker 1: the dead girl decomposing and dismembered.

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Speaker 2: I'd like to add in a bag, a trash bag,

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Speaker 2: and a trunk.

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Speaker 1: Shooter call that a little misunderstanding that Bert should explain

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Speaker 1: away since he's obviously innocent. And you heard Kesser say,

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Speaker 1: why should he call an inquire about who may have

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Speaker 1: done this?

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Speaker 13: Yeah, I think those are the perspectives of professionals who

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Speaker 13: are trained to act in a certain arena based on

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Speaker 13: the court of public opinion or the court of law.

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Speaker 13: But no one is talking about celest She was thirteen

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Speaker 13: years old. I don't like this idea that she's declared

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Speaker 13: a teen runaway. There's clearly something going on with her.

532
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Speaker 13: She's thirteen years old when all of this stuff is happening.

533
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Speaker 13: She could have been convinced that all of this was

534
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Speaker 13: her decisions. But no one is talking about what was

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Speaker 13: going on in that house. Why was she there? Why

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Speaker 13: weren't any of David's friends saying, Hey, this girl's way

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Speaker 13: too young, we need to put her back with her parents.

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Speaker 8: And now she was.

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Speaker 13: Left tot to literally to rot. That's what she was

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Speaker 13: left to do, because that's how little all of these

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Speaker 13: people thought about her.

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Speaker 14: The Tesla owned by Burke had been his daily driver

543
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Speaker 14: for a long time, regularly getting the car cleaned inside

544
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Speaker 14: and out. However, when the Tesla was towed, it was

545
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Speaker 14: dirty with body damage. PI Fisher says it looked like

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Speaker 14: the car had been off road in the desert, without

547
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Speaker 14: wheel wells, beat up and a huge den in the back.

548
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Speaker 14: While his former daily drive sits dirty by the curb

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Speaker 14: for weeks, Berger.

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Speaker 2: Keeps a clean red Tesla in the garage.

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Speaker 1: Reminder, D four vdaka David Anthony Burke is innocent.

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Speaker 2: He hasn't been charged with anything.

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Speaker 1: There is a dead body in there one hundred and

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Speaker 1: fifty feet away.

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Speaker 2: From his house. This is a car containing his girlfriends.

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Speaker 1: Allegedly dead, dismembered body.

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Speaker 5: Bloody remains are found in a vehicle register in two years.

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Speaker 5: Yet you continue on this world tour.

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Speaker 3: Like nothing was found in your car.

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Speaker 1: And speaking of the world tour, that David Anthony Burke

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Speaker 1: aka D four VD, David embarked upun to Steve Fisher,

562
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Speaker 1: the private investigator who has amassed home security surveillance ring

563
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Speaker 1: camera you name it, and has identified the last time

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Speaker 1: the tesla was moved with celest body in it, we

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Speaker 1: believe was July twenty nine around eleven am. He also

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Speaker 1: clearly saw the face of the driver, which he is

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Speaker 1: not divulging. Let me ask you about the timeline.

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Speaker 2: Steve Fisher.

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Speaker 1: How long was the tesla parked on the street for

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Speaker 1: the last time before Burke left for his tour.

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Speaker 7: From the time he was moved to the last spot,

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Speaker 7: which is on Bluebird, So on July ninth, when I

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Speaker 7: saw those like eleven in the morning. Later that evening

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Speaker 7: they begin the tour and they actually leave that evening

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Speaker 7: for San Francisco for the first show.

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Speaker 1: So apparently, Steve Fisher in that neighborhood. When you leave

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Speaker 1: pretty nice neighborhood, the mansions are worth millions of dollars.

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Speaker 1: When you leave a filthy, disgusting car or any car

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Speaker 1: parked on the street in front of one of those houses,

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Speaker 1: that homeowner gets very irritated to have a nasty car

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Speaker 1: or a junk car sitting in front of their lot

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Speaker 1: right their multimillion dollar mansion.

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Speaker 2: So you can't leave a car.

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Speaker 1: Abandoned for very long. We're it's going to get towed.

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Speaker 1: Would do you agree with that?

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Speaker 9: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: And I talked to the person who actually called it in,

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Speaker 7: and that's exactly why. It's not so much how long

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Speaker 7: it was left there as the condition it was left in,

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Speaker 7: and they felt it was abandoned because of the body

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Speaker 7: damage and it was accumulating turk. It's the car had

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Speaker 7: been cleaned, I probably would not have been called in,

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Speaker 7: but they felt that it was. It was abandoned and

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Speaker 7: that's when they called Department transportation.

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Speaker 1: So what do you make of that, Randy Kessler, that

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Speaker 1: the very night that Burke is leaving on a world tour,

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Speaker 1: they just have to move that car one last time,

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Speaker 1: to just put off for maybe a day, two days,

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Speaker 1: three days before it gets reported in front of somebody's

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Speaker 1: yard and gets towed just one last time before he

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Speaker 1: leaves on til a.

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Speaker 10: Little bit of circumstantial evidence, and you are not going

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Speaker 10: to get a conviction based on that, but it helps

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Speaker 10: the prosecution a little tiny bit.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So you may agree that it is circumstantial evidence

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Speaker 1: of the state could use.

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Speaker 2: That's what the takeaway from what you just said.

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Speaker 1: Yes, okay, everything is not circumstantial evidence, But.

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Speaker 2: I got what I wanted.

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Speaker 1: I want to move forward with that thought, the fact

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Speaker 1: of the coincidence that he loves for tour that night,

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Speaker 1: and the car is moved one last time, pushing forward

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Speaker 1: the eventual towing straight back out to especially Guess joining

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Speaker 1: us Katie Forrester with exclusives, editor.

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Speaker 2: At the US Sun Jumping Katie.

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Speaker 11: Well, I think it's interesting that you can't drag a

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Speaker 11: body down the streets. So I mean, we are waiting

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Speaker 11: for the cause of death, and that's going to be

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Speaker 11: the main thing. I think that it's going to switch

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Speaker 11: this investigation. She strangled was accidental, you know. I think

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Speaker 11: things that can really shift when not comes.

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Speaker 2: Down see Fisher.

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Speaker 1: I find it very difficult to believe that in a

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Speaker 1: home with this home that costs us much and has

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Speaker 1: outdoor cameras, that there were not interior cameras like nanny cams.

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Speaker 2: Did you see any The.

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Speaker 7: House has a really sophisticated security system, including cameras inside,

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Speaker 7: but the owner left it up to the person at

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Speaker 7: least the house of what they enable or not. And

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Speaker 7: I know that laped has taken the cameras and the

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Speaker 7: the DVR system, but on the smoke detectors of the

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Speaker 7: house they were covered, so I don't know if they

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Speaker 7: had also covered the cameras, and LAPD is not informing

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Speaker 7: us what may or may not be on cameras or

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Speaker 7: if they were even enabled.

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Speaker 1: D FOURVD aka David Anthony Burke is innocent.

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Speaker 2: He hasn't been charged. Crime stories with Nancy Grace.

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Speaker 1: You know another issue that has just happened, straight back

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Speaker 1: out to rob Shooter PR guru upcoming novel. It started

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Speaker 1: with a whisper on Amazon, host of naughty but Nice podcasts,

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Speaker 1: and you can find him at robshooter dot substack dot com.

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Speaker 1: Shooter in the Last Days D four VD David aka

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Speaker 1: David Anthony Burke has had all of the bloody shirt

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Speaker 1: merchandise pulled. You can't get it anymore. You remember when

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Speaker 1: Kanye I'm afraid to say.

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Speaker 2: His name, it may conjure him up.

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Speaker 1: Had shirts with swastikas on them.

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Speaker 2: Remember that PR nightmare?

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Speaker 9: I do remember it?

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Speaker 4: Mm hm.

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Speaker 1: And now this what took them so who is helping

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Speaker 1: this guy?

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Speaker 2: For Pete's sake? What took them so long to pull

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Speaker 2: the bloody shirts?

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Speaker 1: Now there's a rumor online not true, that he had

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Speaker 1: mixed celess blood in the paint to make those shirts.

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Speaker 4: That's ghoulish, not true. Go ahead, Yeah, it's awful. This

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Speaker 4: should have been removed immediately. But we have to remember here,

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Speaker 4: he is not a superstar. This is somebody who's pretty

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Speaker 4: early on in their career. They probably don't have the

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Speaker 4: very best people around them yet. I've worked with a

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Speaker 4: lot of celebrities and when they start out in their careers,

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Speaker 4: they don't.

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Speaker 9: Have the people, the top notch people on.

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Speaker 12: Their teams yet, primarily because they can't afford them, they

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Speaker 12: don't have access to them. So his career was still

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Speaker 12: in the beginning phrases here, So whoever's advising him probably

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Speaker 12: isn't that experience that this should have been removed immediately.

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Speaker 12: It wasn't. Eventually they fix that. I think ultimately they

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Speaker 12: did the right thing, but it took.

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Speaker 9: Them way too long.

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Speaker 1: Reminder D four vdaka David Anthony Burke is innocent. He

673
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Speaker 1: hasn't been charged with anything. This little girl, just thirteen

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Speaker 1: years old, she goes missing. She had been living with

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Speaker 1: this grown man.

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Speaker 2: She's been gone over a year with him, and now

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Speaker 2: she's dead. With us an All Star panel, and now.

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Speaker 1: We are learning that there were farm implements found in

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Speaker 1: Burke's mansion that were left there were not seized by police.

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Speaker 1: Things that you wouldn't normally expect to find in someone's home.

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Speaker 2: What are they? We don't know yet.

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Speaker 1: Joining me as I said an all start panel, Doctor

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Speaker 1: Kendall Crowns.

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Speaker 2: We also understand, is this.

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Speaker 1: Right, Katie Forrester, that the drains were searched in the home.

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Speaker 1: That's the bathtub drains, the sink drains for blood evidence.

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Speaker 11: Yes, and there were photographs of them leaving the house

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Speaker 11: with the computer with other bits of evidence. But I

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Speaker 11: think it was only on one day. It seemed very swift,

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Speaker 11: so I don't know whether they managed to get a law.

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Speaker 1: You know, Doctor Kendall, I would have thought that that

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Speaker 1: type of investigation would take a lot longer when you

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Speaker 1: are breaking down these sinks and the drains and bathtubs,

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Speaker 1: bathroom sinks, kitchen sinks, utility sinks, lawder room sinks, that

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Speaker 1: that would take a while. We know we were told

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Speaker 1: anyway that the drains were searched.

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Speaker 2: How does that happen? Dr Crowns.

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Speaker 3: So they can disassemble the bathroom sinks as you were saying,

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Speaker 3: or the kitchen sinks, pulling out the piping and then

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Speaker 3: they can pull out the drain plugs in the bathtubs

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Speaker 3: or showers and look down in them with flashlights and

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Speaker 3: things of that nature. Usually good investigators can be very

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Speaker 3: efficient and quick at doing these things, so it probably

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Speaker 3: didn't take them a lot of time.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I don't know about you, doun to Crowns, but

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Speaker 1: I would like to go to a saine and just

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Speaker 1: sit there and drink it in before I started searching.

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Speaker 1: It would take me a very long time to process

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Speaker 1: a saying, even in my own mind, much less for evidence.

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Speaker 1: But if you say so, Rob Shooter joining us PR

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Speaker 1: Guru to the Stars, author of it started with a

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Speaker 1: whisper on Amazon.

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Speaker 2: Shooter, that's the last thing you need are.

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Speaker 1: To have CSI taking the drains out of your bathtub.

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Speaker 1: That's not a good look. But that said, between the

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Speaker 1: drains being searched, this video being amassed, you still don't

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Speaker 1: think David Burke should say anything, not even I'm so

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Speaker 1: sorry that Celeste has gone on to Heaven.

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Speaker 2: I miss her nothing.

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Speaker 9: Absolutely.

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Speaker 12: Yes, every publicist that works with a star that gets

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Speaker 12: in trouble wants them to sit down and tell their

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Speaker 12: side of the story. However, lawyers really get involved here

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Speaker 12: and say absolutely not. There's always a fight within the

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Speaker 12: celebrity circle between the lawyers and the publicists. I think

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Speaker 12: absolutely there should be a statement, there should be an interview.

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Speaker 12: If you're innocent, you're going to want to tell your

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Speaker 12: side of the story. However, you also to want to

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Speaker 12: make sure anything you say.

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Speaker 9: Doesn't get used against.

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Speaker 12: You, and so lawyers are going to be telling him

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Speaker 12: not to do anything at the moment. They're going to

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Speaker 12: let the evidence speak, and that's certainly painting a.

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Speaker 9: Really, really bad story.

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Speaker 12: And so we also have to remember too, Nancy, friends

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Speaker 12: of mine who owned Tesla's there's some of the most

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Speaker 12: sophisticated cars in the world. They have computers within those

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Speaker 12: cards which tell you precisely where that car has been

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Speaker 12: over the last several months. So it's not just inside

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Speaker 12: the house, it's what's happening in the computer of that

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Speaker 12: car that's going to really tie this case together.

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Speaker 2: If that USB is still if the stick is still.

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Speaker 1: In the car, it can be taken out, which is

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Speaker 1: a big question to me. The Tesla, the sophistication of

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Speaker 1: their security in the Tesla is amazing.

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Speaker 2: That USB stick can be taken.

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Speaker 1: Out, that records all of that, so many unanswered questions.

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Speaker 1: But I also understand and is this a good look

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Speaker 1: or a bad look? Let me go to doctor John Delatori.

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Speaker 1: The funeral for little Celeste went down, and for all

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Speaker 1: intents and purposes, we have not heard a word that

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Speaker 1: Burke showed up at the funeral. I find that very

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Speaker 1: odd to see had been living with the little girl.

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Speaker 2: I find it odd too.

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Speaker 8: I think there are many.

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Speaker 2: People who would say, well, you can't.

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Speaker 13: Show up for various reasons. But I think ultimately, if

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Speaker 13: you really had right, if David really had her best

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Speaker 13: interests Seles's best interest in his heart, I think he

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Speaker 13: would have shown up. I think it would have taken

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Speaker 13: the opportunity to be in front of the family to

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Speaker 13: say I was really trying to mentor her. I understood

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Speaker 13: that she had all these problems. I really had her best.

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Speaker 13: So I think that there's a lot of other things

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Speaker 13: that are compelling him not to do it, as opposed

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Speaker 13: to just the altruistic aspect, which I don't think actually

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Speaker 13: existed anywhere.

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Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 1: Also, we're learning tonight, Katie Forrester, we are learning that

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Speaker 1: D FOURVD Burke has hired a high profile defense attorney

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Speaker 1: his name is Blair Burke. He represented Harvey Weinstein, Lindsay Lohan,

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Speaker 1: Kanye West, Meil Gibson, Britney Spears.

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Speaker 2: So that's in the works. A rumor flooded.

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Speaker 1: The internet that he had been arrested. There was even

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Speaker 1: a fake mugshot. That's not true. That did not happen.

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Speaker 1: As of right now, David Anthony Burke is presumed innocent.

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Speaker 1: He hasn't been charged with anything. This domestigation could go

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Speaker 1: any number of ways. We don't know how Celeste died.

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Speaker 1: We know that she was dismembered, but how does she die?

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Speaker 1: That is the key to this case and to you,

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Speaker 1: doctor Kimball Crowns. Will we ever know how she died?

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Speaker 15: Well, it depends if the toxicology comes back and as

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Speaker 15: negative for drugs. They may have findings that they found

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Speaker 15: an autopsy that they're not wanting to disclose yet because

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Speaker 15: there's still.

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Speaker 3: An ongoing investigation. It probably wasn't something obvious like a

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Speaker 3: gunshot wound to the head or a stab wound to

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Speaker 3: the chest. Maybe something more subtle like a strangulation that

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Speaker 3: they couldn't fully interpret just from the decompositional findings. But

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Speaker 3: they're waiting on seeing what the toxicology show. I'm sure

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Speaker 3: they have something that they probably have in mind, but

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Speaker 3: they're just waiting until they have all the results back

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Speaker 3: before they pull the trigger.

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Speaker 1: Brandy Keisser, high profile defense attorney. Out of it Atlanta Jurisdiction.

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Speaker 1: You have worked with Blair Burke before? What's her deal?

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Speaker 2: Thanks? I love that much.

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Speaker 8: She is the go to person.

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Speaker 10: She is discree she's private, and she is who you

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Speaker 10: want to get and you just hope she has time

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Speaker 10: for you when you call her. She will handle this case.

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Speaker 10: And I think that's why you're not hearing anything from

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00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 10: the he's not a suspect, he's not a person of interest,

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Speaker 10: but from the person that we are sort of.

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Speaker 8: Talking about that maybe we'll be accused. So far, so good.

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Speaker 10: Why say anything in snatch defeat from the jaws of

806
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:21,880
Speaker 10: victory right now, there's been no charges, no arrest.

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Speaker 8: She's going to keep it that way.

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Speaker 1: Reminder D four vdaka David Anthony Burke is innocent.

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Speaker 2: He hasn't been charged with anything.

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Speaker 1: The investigation into the death of little girl Celeste is ongoing.

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Speaker 1: If you know or think you know anything about what

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Speaker 1: happened to Celeste.

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Speaker 2: Please dial two one three, four.

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Speaker 1: Eight, six, six eight nine zero repeat two one three, four, eight, six, six.

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Speaker 2: Eight nine zero.

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Speaker 1: We remember American Hero Sergeant Leonard Davis, York CITYPD, killed

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Speaker 1: in the line of duty after twenty one years, leaving

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Speaker 1: behind a distraught and devastated brother, Anthony. American Hero Sergeant

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Speaker 1: Leonard Davis. Nancy Gray signing off goodbye friend,