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Speaker 1: Elma Sans was twenty two years old when she was

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Speaker 1: murdered in New York City. Her body was thrown into

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Speaker 1: the Manhattan Well on December twenty second, seventeen ninety nine,

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Speaker 1: and this became a sensational story. It was gruesome, it

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Speaker 1: was shocking, it was scandalous. Everyone called it the crime

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Speaker 1: of the century. But now nobody knows the name Elma Sands.

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Speaker 1: When I stumbled upon the Manhattan Well, I was working

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Speaker 1: clothing store in Soho. It's unmarked, seemingly random. It's this

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Speaker 2: I couldn't believe that.

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Speaker 1: But when stories don't get told and histories aren't protected,

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Speaker 1: they get erased. Elma's murder case went to trial, and

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Speaker 1: that trial shaped the justice system that we have today.

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Speaker 1: The defense lawyers on the case were Aerin Burr and

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Speaker 1: Alexander Hamilton, and their client, the guy Elma was sleeping with,

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Speaker 1: faced a death sentence. Everyone knew it would be a

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Speaker 1: big show, so for the first time in US history,

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Speaker 1: there were stenographers in the courtroom taking notes, leaving us

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Speaker 1: several partial written accounts of this trial. I've created this

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Speaker 1: dramatic adaptation of all my research to share this truly

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Speaker 1: unbelievable story with you. I'm Alison Flom and this is

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Speaker 1: erased the Murder of Elma Sans.

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Speaker 2: Are you ready?

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Speaker 1: Our story begins on March thirty first, eighteen hundred, at

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Speaker 1: City Hall on Wall Street. The proceedings were scheduled for

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Speaker 1: ten am and the trial was open to the public.

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Speaker 1: The courtroom was packed with massive crowds spilling out onto

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Speaker 3: Order constable, can you shut the windows?

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Speaker 4: Good?

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Speaker 5: Bring in the prisoner.

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Speaker 1: They brought Levi Weeks into the courtroom in chains. Levi

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Speaker 1: was this refined, privileged guy who was looking way different

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Speaker 1: and it showed. And this was the first time people

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Speaker 1: Alma Sands.

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Speaker 4: The prisoner, Levi Weeks fleets not.

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Speaker 1: Guilty, accused, was actually not allowed to testify in their

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Speaker 1: So you won't hear from Levi in the courtroom, but

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Speaker 4: Him rather than defending his own case. Levi, Weeks has

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Speaker 4: exercised a new American right to a private council.

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Speaker 1: Which means he hired private defense attorneys, which people didn't

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Speaker 1: usually do at this time. This was all new and

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Speaker 1: completely revolutionary. Levi sat at a table with his lawyers

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Speaker 1: Aaron Burr and Alexander Hamilton standing beside him. Notorious frenemies, yes,

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Speaker 1: but they worked as a team on this case. They'd

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Speaker 6: You look forward to presenting your case, Ran.

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Speaker 1: And then at the opposite table was a sweaty, anxious,

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Speaker 1: very underprepared prosecutor, the Assistant Attorney General, Kidwalader d Coldet.

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Speaker 4: Good morning, folks.

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Speaker 1: There were several stenographers in the courtroom to take notes

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Speaker 1: and publish their account of the trial, which had never

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Speaker 4: Of the New York States of Freemia, and.

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Speaker 1: Judge John Lansing presided. He was boisterous, he was emphatic,

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Speaker 1: he was excited, about justice, but he didn't know how

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Speaker 1: it should go. The key players here knew that they

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Speaker 3: Proceed, mister Colden, right, yes, your opening remarks, Coldon right now,

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Speaker 3: right at your earliest convenience.

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Speaker 4: Yes.

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Speaker 1: If you're thinking Coldin is fumbling this from the beginning,

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Speaker 1: you're not wrong. Coldon's career as a lawyer so far

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Speaker 1: has been pushing papers. It's been admin He's never done

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Speaker 1: anything like this before. The jurors were all friends and

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Speaker 7: Her name was Julielma, but everyone called her Alma.

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Speaker 4: Everybody liked her.

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Speaker 8: She was a sweet, happy, virtuous girl until she met

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Speaker 8: that man right there, Levi Weeks murdered Alma in cold blood.

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Speaker 7: Levi tricked her because he's a liar. He lured her in,

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Speaker 7: deluded her into thinking they'd be married, and she believed him,

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Speaker 7: Sands thought Levi was going to marry her, but instead

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Speaker 7: Levi is malicious, dangerous, guilty. I'll prove to you the

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Speaker 7: undeniable truth that Levi Weeks murdered Alma Sands and he

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Speaker 7: thought he'd get away with it. Mister Weeks should be

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Speaker 7: prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

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Speaker 4: The law is whatever we say it is.

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Speaker 6: You got that right.

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Speaker 4: Your client took a human life. Mister Burke.

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Speaker 6: They get easy cold, and you look nervous.

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Speaker 7: And do you look like a murderer's attorney, mister Hamilton.

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Speaker 3: Call your first witness coldon.

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Speaker 7: Shouldn't I wait for the defense to make their opening statement.

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Speaker 3: No, they'll do that later after you present your case.

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Speaker 1: So the first witness called to testify was Catherine Ring,

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Speaker 1: Alma's cousin. Catherine was intense and New Yorky, but she

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Speaker 1: was a farm girl at heart. She had curly red

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Speaker 7: Ring is the wife of Alias Ring. The two of

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Speaker 7: them run a boarding house and millinery out of their home.

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Speaker 7: Are you comfortable, Catherine?

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Speaker 9: I'm fine? Can I start testifying?

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Speaker 10: She was ready to go.

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Speaker 1: The first questions for Catherine were about her boarding house

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Speaker 7: Can you tell us about it?

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Speaker 11: My house has seven bedrooms we have My house has

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Speaker 11: or the one I share with my husband. Of course,

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Speaker 11: the house is for young single people. Our borders are

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Speaker 11: ready to get married yet. Outside the house, the borders

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Speaker 11: They have a nightly curfew, and they pay rent to

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Speaker 7: Did Alma pay rent to you?

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Speaker 9: No? Alma was family. She worked for me in the

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Speaker 6: Does your husband help?

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Speaker 4: Of course I do.

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Speaker 9: Of course he does.

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Speaker 11: Oh no, he doesn't really help with that Elias is

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Speaker 4: Running the house, protecting the property, keeping track of the finding.

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Speaker 4: Should I actually come up there, it might be easy.

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Speaker 6: Mister Ring, sit down.

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Speaker 4: I want to help my wife.

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Speaker 9: I was just saying that.

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Speaker 4: Just say anything else, your honor.

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Speaker 12: The defense requests that the witness's husband be removed from

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Speaker 6: He's disrupted.

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Speaker 4: I'm helping my wife.

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Speaker 7: Do you need help, Catherine?

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Speaker 13: No?

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Speaker 9: Can I keep going?

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Speaker 14: Hold on missus Ring. We have to figure this.

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Speaker 12: Missus Ring's testimony easily could be influenced by her husband's energy.

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Speaker 15: My energy is fantastic, your honor, remove him.

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Speaker 14: The witnesses distracted, your honor me.

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Speaker 11: I'm not the one who got distracted, mister Hamilton.

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Speaker 9: I'm trying to testify.

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Speaker 14: I refuse to continue until Elias Ring is removed from

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Speaker 7: So we're gonna do this every time a married woman

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Speaker 7: testifies in an American court room, for fear shall be distracted.

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Speaker 3: Constable remove Elias Ring from the chambers.

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Speaker 7: On what grounds it.

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Speaker 4: Horror.

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Speaker 1: So, after Elias was escorted out of the courtroom, the

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Speaker 1: Before she could even begin telling the jury about Elma,

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Speaker 1: the defense attorneys distracted her and tried to diminish her credibility,

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Speaker 1: But Catherine powered through those distractions. She knew Alma the

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Speaker 7: On the day of the murder, Alma and Levi were

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Speaker 11: Alma said Levi would pick her up at eight, they'd

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Speaker 11: be married and then home before curfew.

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Speaker 12: Wait, objection, Oh what now, Hamilton, Statements from the deceased

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Speaker 9: Wait, I can't tell you what my cousin said to me.

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Speaker 6: No, you cannot, missus Ring.

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Speaker 9: That can't be.

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Speaker 4: No yet, that's not a real rule.

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Speaker 3: Counselors, you're upsetting missus Ring.

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Speaker 11: I'm not upset. I just don't understand how this could

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Speaker 6: Can we make this simpler for missus Ring somehow?

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Speaker 11: No, I don't need anything simplified, mister Hamilton, Thank you.

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Speaker 11: Levi wanted to keep Alma a secret. They didn't want

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Speaker 14: Married, and ejection conjecture ruled conjecture.

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Speaker 6: Conjecture, take it easier, That was conjecture.

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Speaker 11: Elma and Levi started seeing each other last September.

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Speaker 9: When I went out of town.

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Speaker 7: Where did you go?

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Speaker 9: I went upstate to quarantine.

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Speaker 1: The winter of seventeen ninety nine to eighteen hundred was

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Speaker 1: a devastating one in New York City. It was freezing

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Speaker 1: and gray and the height of the yellow fever epidemic,

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Speaker 1: so people were falling into delirium and dying. By the thousands.

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Speaker 1: September seventeen ninety nine, but Alma stayed home.

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Speaker 7: And when you left, what was the dynamic between Elma

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Speaker 9: Well, they were basically strangers when I left.

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Speaker 11: At that point, Levi was romantically involved with Margaret, another

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Speaker 7: That, because you had the instinct that Levi might hurt Elma.

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Speaker 12: Excuse can we hold the witness's husband is back in

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Speaker 12: the chambers?

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Speaker 4: Your honor. The bench attorneys are scaring my wife, missus ring.

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Speaker 3: Would you be less frightened if your husband stayed in here?

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Speaker 11: Oh, I'm seldom frightened, your honor, good constable, Get him

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Speaker 4: Your honor.

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Speaker 7: Okay, So how did you find out about their plan?

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Speaker 9: The night before Alma died, we were in her room.

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Speaker 1: So Catherine testified about her time with Alma in the

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Speaker 1: the night before Alma was murdered. I picture Catherine like

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Speaker 13: Eloping is modern and dignified. I thought you'd be into

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Speaker 13: this idea. No more premarital sex.

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Speaker 2: In your house.

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Speaker 16: Plus, I know you hate scandals and crowds and fuss.

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Speaker 9: But I like weddings.

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Speaker 17: Don't you want a wedding?

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Speaker 2: What shoes do you think I should wear tomorrow?

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Speaker 4: Ding?

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Speaker 16: Do you think Hope will lend me her good slippers?

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Speaker 11: Not your most subtle topic change, but Hope slippers are

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Speaker 2: They're warm in case I have to walk.

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Speaker 11: There will be no walking to your wedding. Tell Levi

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Speaker 13: Levi doesn't have horses, will hum borrow's brother's Ezra has

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Speaker 16: I don't want to ask him to ask Ezra for anything.

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Speaker 11: Hold on, did Leevi I din get his brother's blessing

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Speaker 11: for this? What does Ezra have to say about it all?

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Speaker 13: My sweet angel cousin, I am excited to marry Levi tomorrow.

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Speaker 13: Please be excited for me, or at least pretend everything

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Speaker 7: The next day, so it's the day of the murder?

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Speaker 7: Right December twenty second, seventeen ninety nine. What do you remember?

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Speaker 9: Levi went out to his brother's house.

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Speaker 2: In the morning.

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Speaker 11: When he came in, I was making soup and the

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Speaker 11: Borders were at the table looking at the newspapers.

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Speaker 18: Whoo, Levis with the new law.

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Speaker 5: You're mocking really weird, Levi.

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Speaker 4: I slipped on some ice this morning. Oh no, you

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Speaker 4: fell busted my knee. It's no big deal.

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Speaker 5: It looks bad. You should rest.

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Speaker 6: I'm all right for.

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Speaker 5: Really, you should stay in tonight and play King's Cop

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Speaker 5: with us.

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Speaker 4: I can't rest. I've got plans tonight plans.

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Speaker 5: It's Sunday night and it's freezing here.

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Speaker 1: Let me wrap your knee, okay, So Elma wrapped up

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Speaker 2: Sit I gotcha.

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Speaker 1: But the people in the house already knew that Alma

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Speaker 1: because the house was meant for single people. So Catherine

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Speaker 11: Tea till mid afternoon, and then Levi left again, and

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Speaker 11: Alma went upstairs to get dressed.

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Speaker 4: And when did you come back downstairs?

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Speaker 9: Around eight pm?

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Speaker 17: She looked so beautiful, hey, everyone.

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Speaker 1: So Alma came down into the parlor all dressed up.

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Speaker 5: Whoa, Alma, what is that gorgeous thing?

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Speaker 16: It's a hand muff. Rich people have them.

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Speaker 1: If you can't picture this weird accessory, it's like a

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Speaker 1: can put both your hands in for warmth. If they

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Speaker 1: come back into fashion, you're welcome.

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Speaker 2: I borrowed it from missus Osbourne.

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Speaker 5: Oh, missus Osborne.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, she said, if I don't give it back tomorrow morning,

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Speaker 13: she'll have my spleen on a silver spoon or something.

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Speaker 5: Well, you look amazing, way better than usual.

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Speaker 2: What's sweet?

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Speaker 5: And what's the occasion? Just going for a walk all

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Speaker 17: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I wanted to feel good.

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Speaker 5: Why do you keep looking at the front door?

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Speaker 2: I don't what time is it?

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Speaker 5: Ato? Six? H?

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Speaker 2: Really?

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Speaker 5: Ato seven?

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Speaker 2: Maybe your time piece is fast?

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Speaker 5: Are you waiting for someone?

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Speaker 9: Leave her alone, Russell?

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Speaker 5: I want to know.

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Speaker 11: Well, Alma doesn't have to tell you anything, drunkie. You

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Speaker 11: are maxed out on whiskey for the night, Russ, I'm

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Speaker 11: cutting you off.

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Speaker 5: Fine, then I'm off to bed. And everyone's so boring lately.

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Speaker 1: So after Russell went off to bed, there were no

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Speaker 1: And then a few minutes after eight, Levi came in.

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Speaker 1: He and Elma had a weird performative interaction in the doorway.

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Speaker 13: It went like this, Oh it's Levi, What a surprise, Hey, Alma,

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Speaker 13: this is right. I was just headed out for a while,

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Speaker 13: and I was just swinging by so pleasant, running into you.

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Speaker 4: Likewise Elma and everyone nice, running into everyone here where

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Speaker 4: we all live.

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Speaker 11: Bye, Alma, Bye, okay bye.

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Speaker 13: I'll see you at some point in the future when

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Speaker 4: Honey, Catherine, what's going on?

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Speaker 17: Oll'swell, Elias? You dozed off?

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Speaker 4: What time is it?

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Speaker 17: It's eight ten, sweetheart.

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Speaker 5: Oh, let's go.

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Speaker 4: To bed, all right, I'm headed out for a bit.

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Speaker 17: Wait didn't didn't you just get home?

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Speaker 4: I did? And now I'm going back out. I'll be

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Speaker 4: home by kurfey.

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Speaker 9: Wait, Levi before you go?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, are you?

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Speaker 17: Are you a man with integrity?

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Speaker 2: Would you say?

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Speaker 7: Like?

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Speaker 17: Are you a good man?

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Speaker 4: I have tons of integrity? Catherine like, maybe even too much?

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Speaker 9: No, Wow, that's a.

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Speaker 4: Sweet dreams.

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Speaker 17: Okay, good night.

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Speaker 1: Back in the courtroom, Catherine tries to continue testifying through

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Speaker 1: the constant interruptions.

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Speaker 11: Moments later, as I tucked my husband into bed, the

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Speaker 11: whispers from my front porch.

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Speaker 6: Hold on, missus Ring, you heard whispers?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I did, mister Hamilton through my window?

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Speaker 6: Who was whispering?

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Speaker 9: LEVI weeks talking to someone?

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Speaker 11: What were they saying, Well, they were quiet whispers, so

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Speaker 11: I couldn't exact.

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Speaker 12: You don't know who was whispering or what they were saying,

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Speaker 12: so you have no information.

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Speaker 9: Really, I have information.

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Speaker 12: This is Ring a simpler question. How far is your

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Speaker 11: Up one staircase out the door, and how far is

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Speaker 11: your bedroom from the stairs.

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Speaker 9: I'm not sure two yards.

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Speaker 6: Maybe you don't seem sure of anything, Catherine.

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Speaker 11: I'm very sure. I heard whispers on my porch. I

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Speaker 11: I sat in the rocking chair for a while. I

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Speaker 11: was awake when Levi got home after he murdered my.

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Speaker 9: Cousin, checktion, conjecture, curfew came and passed.

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Speaker 11: I sat there, thinking, maybe Elma and Levi slept elsewhere,

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Speaker 11: a friend's house perhaps, but they never.

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Speaker 9: Communicated any plan like that.

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Speaker 11: Levi's apprentice had been expecting him home, waiting up for hours.

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Speaker 14: His apprentice, missus Ring.

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Speaker 11: Levi's a house carpenter and always has a young man

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Speaker 11: shadowing him. At this point it was this kid, William Anderson.

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Speaker 11: The carpenter shares a rented room with the apprentice, while

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Speaker 11: he studies.

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Speaker 10: Is it okay? If I sleep right here on.

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Speaker 17: The floor, you'll be freezing.

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Speaker 10: I'm so tired, missus Ring.

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Speaker 17: LEVI I should have told you he was going out.

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Speaker 10: It's all right.

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Speaker 9: No, he's selfish.

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Speaker 2: I don't like that.

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Speaker 10: I think he's just eccentric, ma'am.

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Speaker 2: It's not eccentric.

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Speaker 9: He locked you out of your room on a Sunday night.

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Speaker 10: Well, it's really his room, Missus Ring.

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Speaker 11: It's my house and it's your shared room as long

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Speaker 11: as you work for him.

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Speaker 17: Goodness, this makes me frustrated. I'll bring you a pillow

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Speaker 17: at least.

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Speaker 10: Oh, mister Weeks.

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Speaker 4: Oh, didn't think anyone would be awake.

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Speaker 18: We're awake.

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Speaker 9: Where's my cousin?

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Speaker 10: Good evening, mister Week's.

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Speaker 4: Uh?

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Speaker 10: May I have the keys?

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Speaker 17: It's past curfew, LEVI sorry, mister Anderson.

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Speaker 10: Here you go, Thank you, sir.

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Speaker 19: I'll leave it unlocked unless are you sleeping in Elma's room?

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Speaker 4: Go to bed now? Oh?

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Speaker 10: Sorry, sorry, good night, sir, Missus Ring.

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Speaker 9: Good night?

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Speaker 2: Where were you? LEVI?

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Speaker 4: Where's Hope?

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Speaker 17: What did you say?

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Speaker 5: Hope?

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Speaker 4: I'm just wondering what's Hope doing? Is she sleeping?

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Speaker 17: Probably she's been in her room since before.

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Speaker 4: Tea, is Elma sleeping too? No, No, Elma's not sleeping.

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Speaker 17: Alma is not home yet?

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Speaker 6: Really, but where is she?

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Speaker 17: Wasn't she with you tonight?

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Speaker 1: Naturally, Catherine got worried and then suspicious where was Alma?

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Speaker 1: The fact that Levi came home after curfew with no

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Speaker 1: be getting married. It left Catherine completely shook, and so

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Speaker 1: Levi's reaction that night became central to the prosecution's case

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Speaker 1: against him.

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Speaker 7: And how exactly did mister Weeks respond when you asked

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Speaker 9: He looked pale and agitated, like he was hiding.

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Speaker 4: Something, objection speculation.

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Speaker 9: Leeve I didn't say anything.

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Speaker 14: He just did this, wait, what do you mean, missus Rain?

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Speaker 11: He took his hand like this, He covered one of

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Speaker 11: a deep breath. It was strange behavior, even for him.

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Speaker 14: Did you tell mister Weeks, hey, you're acting strange right now?

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Speaker 9: Why would I say that, mister Burr.

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Speaker 6: What did you say to Leva?

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Speaker 11: I told him I thought Elma was still out, probably alone.

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Speaker 6: Are you trying to stress him out?

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Speaker 11: I was trying to figure out where my cousin was.

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Speaker 11: Mister Hamilton, Levi went up to bed. Didn't seem worried

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Speaker 11: at all that Alma was still out in the cold,

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Speaker 11: totally vulnerable.

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Speaker 6: Mister Weeks was tired, missus ring. He had a full day.

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Speaker 9: I was tired too, mister Hamilton. But I stayed up

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Speaker 9: waiting all night for Elma. She never came home.

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Speaker 11: Around sunrise, I searched the whole house again, double checked

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Speaker 11: for the borders. Levi came to breakfast in a panic.

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Speaker 4: Where is she? Catherine? I searched the house. She's not

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Speaker 4: here anywhere.

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Speaker 10: Do we have more biscuits on a trey?

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Speaker 9: Honey? But be careful, Levi.

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Speaker 2: Can you come here for a moment.

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Speaker 17: Enough, I'm very worried. Tell me where Alma is.

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Speaker 4: I don't know, Catherine. You're the one who always knows

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Speaker 4: where she.

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Speaker 17: Is, except when she's with you.

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Speaker 4: Maybe she's hiding from me?

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Speaker 2: Hiding?

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Speaker 17: Would she hide from her husband?

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Speaker 4: Hold on husband?

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00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:07,440
Speaker 17: Oh, don't bother pretending, Levi. Alma told me everything.

456
00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,440
Speaker 11: She said that you two went to a loaf last

457
00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:13,440
Speaker 11: night and that I could expect you both home before curfew.

458
00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:18,000
Speaker 4: You're crazy, That is so ridiculous.

459
00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:20,600
Speaker 9: You not gaslight me, Levi. I know you two got married.

460
00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:22,840
Speaker 4: I've never married girl that Ezra's consent. Can you imagine

461
00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:23,399
Speaker 4: he killed me?

462
00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:24,920
Speaker 2: Alma said you had his blessing.

463
00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:28,360
Speaker 4: Well I don't. Zra says I shouldn't date anyone right now.

464
00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:31,320
Speaker 4: He has huge dreams for me. Liar, my brother thinks

465
00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:32,800
Speaker 4: Alma is below me.

466
00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:34,080
Speaker 10: Alma is so.

467
00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:36,919
Speaker 17: High above you in literally every category.

468
00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:40,119
Speaker 4: I was born into a specific group. Catherine, Alma is

469
00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:40,760
Speaker 4: just an orphan.

470
00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:43,720
Speaker 10: If that were true, she'd still be perfect.

471
00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:45,240
Speaker 9: But Alma isn't an orphan.

472
00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:46,200
Speaker 4: Yes she is.

473
00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:47,400
Speaker 10: You don't know her at all.

474
00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:49,639
Speaker 11: She has a dad in the South somewhere, and her

475
00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:50,520
Speaker 11: mom is upstate.

476
00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:52,640
Speaker 9: I just saw her in September.

477
00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:53,840
Speaker 4: I thought she had no family.

478
00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:57,040
Speaker 2: I am her family, and you are a stranger. Alma

479
00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:59,159
Speaker 2: was with you last night, and now she's missing.

480
00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:01,240
Speaker 4: She's not missing.

481
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:03,919
Speaker 2: Then tell me where she is.

482
00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:05,240
Speaker 4: I don't know.

483
00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:06,960
Speaker 17: Then go find her.

484
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:10,040
Speaker 4: What if I can't, you have to.

485
00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:14,879
Speaker 1: So when Catherine confronted Levi the next morning, he immediately

486
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:20,040
Speaker 1: just started crying, trembling, yelling, what are you doing?

487
00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:21,840
Speaker 2: Levi stopped.

488
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:27,840
Speaker 1: All he could say was he's ruined, over and over

489
00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:29,040
Speaker 1: and over.

490
00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:34,840
Speaker 11: He cried and cried, saying his future is doomed. All

491
00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:36,840
Speaker 11: I could think about with Alma.

492
00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:40,040
Speaker 14: Was Levi still limping at this point?

493
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:43,240
Speaker 4: What was that, mister Burr during.

494
00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:47,080
Speaker 14: This conversation with missus Ring. I'm just wondering, was Levi

495
00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:51,520
Speaker 14: Weeks still limping from his slip several days before?

496
00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:55,199
Speaker 9: I have no idea. He was wailing in my kitchen,

497
00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:56,640
Speaker 9: going on and on and on.

498
00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:59,360
Speaker 14: You weren't paying attention to his disposition.

499
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:00,800
Speaker 6: He was walking.

500
00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:03,560
Speaker 11: His disposition was crisis distressed.

501
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:07,720
Speaker 14: You would say, Levi Weeks has a kind disposition in general,

502
00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:12,120
Speaker 14: a kind yes, missus Ring, A kind disposition.

503
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:14,880
Speaker 9: Sure, he's kind.

504
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:19,880
Speaker 14: Gentleman of the jury, Catherine Ring admits that Levi Weeks

505
00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:22,880
Speaker 14: is kind. She always liked him.

506
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,080
Speaker 11: That's not what I said, mister Burr.

507
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:32,760
Speaker 14: But you found him to be kind, missus Ring. Where

508
00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:33,560
Speaker 14: did almiss sleep?

509
00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:34,480
Speaker 17: Huh?

510
00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:37,400
Speaker 11: Her room was on the third floor, but last fall

511
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:39,359
Speaker 11: she started sleeping in the back room on the second

512
00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:41,720
Speaker 11: floor with Levi sometimes, missus Ring.

513
00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:44,560
Speaker 12: A quick question about that back room on the second floor,

514
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:47,119
Speaker 12: is that the room that shares a wall with your

515
00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:47,960
Speaker 12: neighbor's house.

516
00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:52,439
Speaker 11: Yes, mister Watkins built that plaster partition a few years ago.

517
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:55,679
Speaker 12: Is that the second floor bedroom the most secluded and

518
00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:57,359
Speaker 12: isolated of the rooms in the house.

519
00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:00,280
Speaker 9: I mean, I suppose.

520
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:03,560
Speaker 11: That might be why Levi and Alma spent so much

521
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:05,240
Speaker 11: time in there, just to have some privacy.

522
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:10,000
Speaker 4: Oh, your nails feel so good?

523
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:10,520
Speaker 7: WHOA?

524
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:12,760
Speaker 4: Keep doing that on my chest.

525
00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:15,680
Speaker 2: I'm practicing my penmanship.

526
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:20,120
Speaker 4: Wait, can you read and write pretty well?

527
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:21,359
Speaker 2: I'm getting a little better.

528
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:26,600
Speaker 4: Oh huh. I wonder if my brother knows that you're literate.

529
00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:29,879
Speaker 2: You never asked me about myself? So how it is?

530
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:30,200
Speaker 1: R No?

531
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:32,080
Speaker 6: I ask you stuff all the time.

532
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:36,720
Speaker 16: Ask me something right now, anything, I'll answer.

533
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:38,240
Speaker 4: Okay, okay.

534
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:39,600
Speaker 6: Do you.

535
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:44,240
Speaker 4: Think I'm going to be rich and successful?

536
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:48,239
Speaker 18: That's your question for me? Like?

537
00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:50,919
Speaker 4: What if I become so important that one day they

538
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:52,200
Speaker 4: name a holiday after me?

539
00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:54,960
Speaker 2: If I who would name a holiday after you?

540
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:56,760
Speaker 6: Wow? Elma?

541
00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 4: Wow? I knew you didn't believe me. Of course I

542
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:03,679
Speaker 4: believe is No, No, you don't.

543
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:06,560
Speaker 2: You don't wake up, mister Watkins.

544
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:11,560
Speaker 4: I don't care. Rise and shine, mister Watkins. Morning, wakey,

545
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:13,920
Speaker 4: wakey out you have.

546
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 2: To speak quieter.

547
00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 4: Fine, fine, fine.

548
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:24,560
Speaker 2: Come here, give you your face. I love you.

549
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 4: Oh, we've got a situation. You're gonna be late to mass.

550
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:32,400
Speaker 2: No, it's not even a thirty yet.

551
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 4: But your nightgown is suddenly disappearing. It's it's a mystery.

552
00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:42,720
Speaker 4: Is that somehow these bloomers are flying down your legs.

553
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:43,520
Speaker 4: They can't be stopped.

554
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:44,879
Speaker 2: I wonder where they're going.

555
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:46,359
Speaker 4: I know where I'm going.

556
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:50,359
Speaker 1: Hey, just jumping in here to keep it PG. Also,

557
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 1: Alma and Levi were often interrupted by their creepy housemate

558
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 1: like this, god o.

559
00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:58,480
Speaker 4: Sure, pervert.

560
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 6: I'm so sorry.

561
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:01,600
Speaker 4: Was just a were you watching her?

562
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:04,480
Speaker 20: Oh, don't flattery yourselves.

563
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 6: I was going to fight the fact that next door.

564
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:09,439
Speaker 4: Wawkins doesn't even sell cigarettes on Sundays.

565
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 16: This room isn't even on your way to the Watkins.

566
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:13,959
Speaker 4: You were trying to see Elma naked again. You're a

567
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:15,400
Speaker 4: creep Croucher, Get out of here.

568
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:19,560
Speaker 1: Richard Croucher was an older British merchant who lodged at

569
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:25,200
Speaker 1: the boarding house. Croucher was like menacing, ugly, scary and mean.

570
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 1: He'd ultimately actually be declared criminally insane. More on that later,

571
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 1: but in seventeen ninety nine. He was just grossly obsessed

572
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 1: with Elma, and he did not.

573
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 2: Like Levi Weeks.

574
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 1: So Coldon used Croucher's testimony to further illustrate Levi's unpredictable,

575
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,560
Speaker 1: suspicious behavior after Alma disappeared.

576
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 20: My name is Richard Croucher. I'm a lodger at two

577
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 20: hundred and Night, Greenwich.

578
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 7: Straight and you witnessed closely Levi and Elma's relationship.

579
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 6: I watched Leevi ruin.

580
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 20: Hey, guess Elma changed when she started singing the defendant.

581
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 20: Her light dimmed in his company. I'm certain she was

582
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 20: frightened of him. He's a frightening man.

583
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 7: Look at him, mister Croucher, How did you know Levi

584
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 7: was guilty?

585
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 20: My bedroom is right below Levi's. He didn't sleep for

586
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 20: days after Wilma disappeared. I found that most suspicious. I

587
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 20: could hear Levi all through the night, dragon furniture, hammering, hasting.

588
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 4: Gentlemen of the jury. While everyone else in New York

589
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 4: City looked for Alma Sands. Levi Weeks was moving furniture,

590
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 4: not sleeping.

591
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 1: And though this seemed like a win for Colden's case,

592
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 1: it was probably naive of him to call a witness

593
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 1: who was notoriously controversial and gossipy. So to confirm what

594
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 1: we just heard, Colden called Levi's apprentice to the stand.

595
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:49,720
Speaker 7: William Anderson. You share Levi's bedroom at the Ring's house.

596
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:50,240
Speaker 7: Is that right?

597
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 10: I share his room and I know he was sleeping.

598
00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:54,960
Speaker 7: So he wasn't awake worried about Alma.

599
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 14: You're contradicting yourself.

600
00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 7: So Levi week slept soundly on December twenty second to

601
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:00,160
Speaker 7: your note.

602
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 4: Because you have no case he did. Yes, And the

603
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 4: night after that this is so hard to watch.

604
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 10: Levi slept soundly again.

605
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 4: And the third night called in, your embarrassing yourself. Please

606
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:12,040
Speaker 4: answer me, sir?

607
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 14: Can someone get Cad Walader a calendar?

608
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:19,240
Speaker 4: The third night, Christmas night, Levi slept fine. Again.

609
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:22,880
Speaker 14: I think it's clear our client had no trouble sleeping

610
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 14: that week.

611
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 4: What about the fourth night?

612
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 7: Is this a joke?

613
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 6: Objection your honor?

614
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 5: One more question, then move it along, cold In.

615
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 7: I'm just asking, mister Anderson, did Levi show signs of

616
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 7: anxiety or have trouble sleeping on the fourth night after

617
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 7: Alma disappeared? I suppose so, but so yes, you saw

618
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:42,960
Speaker 7: change in Levi's behavior after Alma had been gone for

619
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 7: three days.

620
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:46,960
Speaker 19: Well, first I thought he'd caught the fever. But he

621
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 19: wasn't sweating. He was just shaky, shaky, how shaky, like

622
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 19: his girlfriend just died.

623
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 7: I don't know. Hold on, did Levi I seem to

624
00:30:58,320 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 7: know Alma was dead at this point.

625
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:05,239
Speaker 1: On the fourth night after Alma disappeared, Levi woke up

626
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 1: in the middle of the night with bad dreams. According

627
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 1: to his apprentice, William, this was the first time since

628
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 1: Alma's disappearance that Levi showed any real concern about it.

629
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 1: That Levi even seemed phased about Elma disappearing.

630
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 10: Sorry, how are you?

631
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 11: No?

632
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 7: No me?

633
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 13: It's your apprentice, help me.

634
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 4: You're having a.

635
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 1: Mind right, So Levi's anxiety continued to increase after Elma disappeared,

636
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 1: and to reinforce this even further, and to confirm that

637
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 1: Levi's behavior following the murder was erratic, Coldon called up

638
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 1: Hope Sands, Alma's second cousin and another resident at the

639
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 1: boarding house. Hope was a freckly, dark haired girl with

640
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 1: a heart of gold. She was self assured and she

641
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 1: had no problem speaking her mind about Levi To the jury.

642
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 10: She told them.

643
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 18: Levi was a total zombie. After Alma vanished, he was

644
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 18: exhausted and pale, and he came to me completely Mannic Hope,

645
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 18: come here, I am working Levi. I need to talk

646
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 18: to you, and I need to finish these hats. The

647
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 18: Rings are struggling with the rent because of those empty rooms.

648
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:38,280
Speaker 4: Yes, I help the Rings too, we all do.

649
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 18: You are helping Catherine and Elias with their financial issues?

650
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 18: How specifically?

651
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 4: I paid two months re in advance just to keep

652
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 4: their doors open.

653
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 18: You didn't pay anything. Everyone knows your brother pays for you,

654
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 18: so so as Roe's rich, I've seen his house, I

655
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 18: don't feel.

656
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 2: Bound for you.

657
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 4: I'm in crisis.

658
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 17: Stop pig.

659
00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:59,719
Speaker 15: You're messing with this brette, but get off of my sewing.

660
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 4: That hats are not urgent. I'm your friend and I

661
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 4: need your help.

662
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 18: So you're not really my friend. You're a housemaid who

663
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 18: I accidentally slept with a few times.

664
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 4: What do you want?

665
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 16: Le Bay?

666
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:12,960
Speaker 4: Just sign this? What is it?

667
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 7: It's standard?

668
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:18,479
Speaker 18: This basically says you've hooked up with every girl in

669
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 18: this house.

670
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 4: No, no, it says I treated every girl the same

671
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 4: way I treated Elma.

672
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 18: Where did you even get a document like this.

673
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 4: My brother hired attorneys just in case, just in case,

674
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 4: what just in case, just if the body is found

675
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 4: close to here or nearby body.

676
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 1: So everyone was still hopeful that Alma might come home

677
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 1: or that she would be found alive, except for Levi Weeks.

678
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 1: He assumed that Alma was dead and that he would

679
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 1: be implicated. And as Hope asked, where did he even

680
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 1: get a legal document like this? At the time of

681
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 1: this trial, Levi's older brother, Ezra was building a mansion

682
00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 1: uptown for Alexander Hamilton. It's called The Grain. It's still

683
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 1: there right now. And in New York, guys like Hamilton

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Speaker 1: and Burr had all the power socially, politically, legally financially,

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Speaker 1: but personally they didn't have any cash. So both Burr

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Speaker 1: and Hamilton were in debt all the time, and for

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Speaker 1: the mansion project, Hamilton would have owed a favor to

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Speaker 1: his architect extraordinaire, Ezra Weeks. The least he could do

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Speaker 1: was draw up some preliminary legal paperwork to protect Ezra's

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Speaker 1: little brother Levi, but Hope refused to sign. She knew

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Speaker 1: something wasn't right.

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Speaker 4: It's just a precaution. Keep me protected so the police

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Speaker 4: don't show up and hould me off to Bridewell in Chain's.

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Speaker 18: Can you imagine he's Alma dead?

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Speaker 4: I don't know if she said her life, just sign.

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Speaker 18: This and I said no way, And then he had

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Speaker 18: the audacity to ask me to get Catherine's signature.

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Speaker 6: And did you, of course not, Hope.

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Speaker 12: Do you think people liked Levi before he was accused

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Speaker 12: of this horrible thing?

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Speaker 14: Uh?

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Speaker 18: You know, like everyone was fine with him when he

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Speaker 18: moved in last July.

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Speaker 6: And clearly you liked him, maybe a little too much.

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Speaker 18: People liked Levi, yes, until he murdered.

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Speaker 1: Elma, and Hope went on to testify about an interaction

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Speaker 1: that she had with Levi a few nights after the murder.

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Speaker 1: She was in Catherine's room at the time, trying to

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Speaker 1: figure out where Elma could be, and Levi barged in there.

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Speaker 11: Like this Belleview is first thing on your list tomorrow,

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Speaker 11: but then you have to check all the hospitals.

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Speaker 4: Oh ladies, ladies, you're being such down as you're bumming

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Speaker 4: everybody out.

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Speaker 15: Go away, Levi.

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Speaker 4: Oh Catherine, girls, just let this go. She's gone, What

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Speaker 4: Alma's gone? Nothing to do about it? Shut up?

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Speaker 18: Why would you say that.

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Speaker 4: Alma probably got sick of this depressing boarding house and

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Speaker 4: ended it just like she said she would.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, I heard her say that, but she never meant

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Speaker 18: like in her life. It is a figure of speech.

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Speaker 12: Everyone says it to clarify everyone threatens to end their

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Speaker 12: own lives.

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Speaker 18: Yes, yes, I've said. You know, if blah blah blah,

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Speaker 18: I'd kill myself.

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Speaker 15: There's no possible way that Alma wanted to commit suicide.

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Speaker 6: How would you know that?

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Speaker 18: I knew Alma very well, mister.

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Speaker 6: Hamilton, but not as well as Levi I did.

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Speaker 18: Right, Maybe Levi I knew her more intimately at the end.

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Speaker 12: So if Levi said that Alma probably killed herself, then

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Speaker 12: Elma probably killed herself.

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Speaker 6: Wouldn't you say?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 18: I wouldn't say that at all, Sir.

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Speaker 11: Alma never said anything like that, your honor, you have

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Speaker 11: to believe us.

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Speaker 4: Hope didn't be here.

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Speaker 15: I was only saying if Alma accidentally took too much laudanum,

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Speaker 15: but her psycho boyfriend drove her to do it. So

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Speaker 15: Alma's death is Levi's fault regardless.

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Speaker 6: Wonderful. Nothing further but I step.

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Speaker 1: Down, man, And once it was said from the witness

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Speaker 1: stand that Elma may have once colloquially threatened to take

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Speaker 1: her own life. The defense attorneys were ready to build

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Speaker 1: their case on that idea. But if Levi Weeks had

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Speaker 1: an alibi, why didn't that come out right away? And

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Speaker 1: why were the most powerful attorneys in Manhattan so focused

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Speaker 1: on eviscerating the character of the dead twenty two year old.

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Speaker 1: In the next episode, the prosecution stumbles upon a secret

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Speaker 1: that threatens the defense's entire case. This is erased, Stay

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Speaker 1: with Us erased. The Murder of Elma Sands is a

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Speaker 1: production of Lunch Plans and Lava for Good Podcasts in

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Speaker 1: association with Signal Company Number One. The show is narrated, written,

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Speaker 1: and produced by me Alison Flamm. It stars Alison Williams

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Speaker 1: as Catherine Ring, Tony Goldwyn as Alexander Hamilton, Barry Sheck

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Speaker 1: as Aaron Burr, and Jason as Judge John Lansing.

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Speaker 4: Our executive producers are.

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Speaker 1: produced by Goldhalk Productions. The show is sound designed and

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Speaker 1: mixed by Steve Bond. The music is composed and performed

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Speaker 1: by Sasha Putnam. The producer for goldhalk Is Andy Goddard,

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