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Speaker 1: Hey everybody, it's me Matt Rogers, letting you know. Tickets

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Speaker 1: are on sale now to see me on tour, the

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Speaker 1: Prince of Christmas Tour. That is, I'm doing my whole

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Speaker 1: album have you Heard of Christmas? Plus a lot more

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Speaker 1: with the whole band all throughout December. Go to www

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Speaker 1: dot Matt rodgersofficial dot com. See me in a city

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Speaker 1: near you and now lost cult drums.

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Speaker 2: Look mare, oh, I see you my own and look

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Speaker 2: over there is that the culture?

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Speaker 3: Yes, lost culture ding dong, lost culturistas calling.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's a new era. And what do you

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Speaker 2: mean by that? Christmas? It's officially it's officially the holidays. Holidays.

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Speaker 3: That's a fun spin on everything that's happened. It's holidays.

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Speaker 2: Now do you think that the Christmas spirit can thrive

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Speaker 2: under fascism?

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Speaker 3: You know that's an introt. Well, the thing is, we're

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Speaker 3: not officially in fascism, yet we still have a week.

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Speaker 2: Some people might argue with you. Your known chom skis

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Speaker 2: might say, oh, we've always been under We've been in

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Speaker 2: fascism for so long, which is God, This is what

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Speaker 2: a terrible, rancid tone to start this episode.

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Speaker 3: What are we going to do when when you look

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Speaker 3: around and the world's on fire, what are you going

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Speaker 3: to say, like.

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Speaker 2: Ooh, like, pass me my iced tea. That's what we

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Speaker 2: that's what we're meant to do as entertainers. Sometimes past

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Speaker 2: the icy is that hey, pass me the iced tea.

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Speaker 3: I mean, this is it's a complicated thing people. It's

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Speaker 3: our first episode recording since the election. Obviously, want to

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Speaker 3: express to everyone out there that is feeling terrible, that

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Speaker 3: you know, we are all.

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Speaker 2: In it together.

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Speaker 3: Lots of avalanche of reasons why this may have happened.

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Speaker 3: It's kind of neither here nor there. Certainly not going

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Speaker 3: to get into it here on this episode, but just

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Speaker 3: if you're feeling.

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Speaker 2: Although we have the greatest political minds in one room, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'm looking around and everyone here has everyone has something

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Speaker 2: to contribute to the solution. I mean it.

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Speaker 3: We just want to say if you're feeling down, that

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Speaker 2: And I really appreciate you saying that. Man about being

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Speaker 2: in this together. I think this is an easy time

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Speaker 2: for people to start to go for individualism and say, well,

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Speaker 2: best I can do. And that's true, and that's important.

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Speaker 2: But also I think talking to someone like a week before,

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Speaker 2: it's being like, God, but what if it happens? And

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Speaker 2: then we were saying like, I think the best thing

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Speaker 2: but I think it's the It really is the only thing.

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Speaker 3: It's actually kind of time to think about things in

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Speaker 2: You're in New York, New York cares great thing to do,

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Speaker 2: doing that again. Tiny beautiful things, Tiny beautiful things. And

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Speaker 2: we have a tiny beautiful person.

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Speaker 3: Tiny beautiful but here's the thing. Big gorgeous talent. Oh,

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Speaker 2: Big Gorgeous Talents.

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Speaker 3: Her talents. She's cupping the talent. I have like a

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Speaker 2: start to finish, it is one of our great, joyful shows.

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Speaker 2: My first musical that I ever did in high school. Really,

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Speaker 3: at the Amunsen in Los Angeles. This would be well

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Speaker 3: worth your time, absolutely, and it stars our guest, who,

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Speaker 3: among other things, is also Christmas Royalty. Christmas Royalty.

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Speaker 3: I talked about this with her actuallyause, if Mariah's the

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Speaker 2: The only way to gain royalty and Christmas is to

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Speaker 3: And so this person has done it, and we're so

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Speaker 2: Please catch her. What a sublime time.

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Speaker 3: welcome to this podcast, the one the only guess can

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Speaker 5: Four it is time Hi, thank you for mentioning my

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Speaker 2: Okay, self appointed duchess. Where there's a court we have

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Speaker 6: But I feel like I've earned it.

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Speaker 5: And that's why the album. The album felt so important

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Speaker 2: So that's that's the most Christmas place of all.

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Speaker 2: J cru is very baby kind the Christmas.

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Speaker 2: Westchester, Breastchester, a million Breastchester. On wheels, her dogs on wheels.

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Speaker 2: What's been the best vacation you guys are taking together?

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Speaker 2: Wine Country is.

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Speaker 5: Based on Yeah, Wine Country was really fantastic and it

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Speaker 5: And it was I don't remember it was about airplane.

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Speaker 5: It was a real man. It was a man anyway.

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Speaker 5: like somebody sent it to me he's he's doing like

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Speaker 5: We were like doctor eviling it. And I don't even

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Speaker 5: On Wednesday, all the way up to the line, and

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Speaker 5: Will famously So this is another Will dressed as Jerry Reid.

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Speaker 6: From the Smoking in the Bandit series.

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Speaker 5: Okay, bear with me please, So Norm McDonald and Will

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Speaker 5: If you go back, it would have been the too

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Speaker 2: We couldn't internet. There was no internet. Yeah, so I

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Speaker 3: You ever meet Chip Kudro No, so this I guess

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Speaker 5: He also did Jim Seniurelli's former DP that started at

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Speaker 6: Those people are all wearing zipper boots and.

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Speaker 5: Then like seventies boots is zipped, and then he wore

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Speaker 5: he just yeah, did you ever hear about Ron?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 6: No, wait a minute, that was Ron.

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Speaker 5: Ron was Jim Senior really's fired DP who was still

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Speaker 5: he's dressed is Ron.

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Speaker 2: And then famously when p Diddy came, we're.

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Speaker 5: Getting into it. Yeah, I gotta find this.

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Speaker 6: Tape because I have it.

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Speaker 5: He of course like shut down the whole building, like

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Speaker 5: when they would be like and thoes.

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Speaker 5: Everybody stand in your dressing rooms, you know, like and

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Speaker 5: but apart from that, really it's my house.

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Speaker 2: And for.

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Speaker 5: P Diddy, he demanded a totally closed.

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Speaker 5: Yes and he was doing Kashmir. Remember that, donam right, okay?

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Speaker 5: Ron at the table. I think we were rewriting Bobby

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Speaker 5: He went on down the stairs and he marched right in.

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Speaker 5: And I have the video on st.

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Speaker 6: Where Seawan Combs is like rapping.

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Speaker 5: Behind him and he's just like Ron's like walking around

441
00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:52,520
Speaker 5: like really disoriented and looking for Jim. He's like, have

442
00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:57,560
Speaker 5: you seen Jimson? You're Jimson. Really, to be clear to

443
00:19:57,600 --> 00:20:01,719
Speaker 5: your listeners, was the per og pre tape guy. So

444
00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:03,680
Speaker 5: he was like the director who did all of the

445
00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:06,280
Speaker 5: commercial parodies, all of the Gemini's twin videos, all of

446
00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:08,680
Speaker 5: the videos that you would do before Lonely Island came.

447
00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:11,000
Speaker 5: It was like you would go and they were shot

448
00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:13,080
Speaker 5: on film by the s guy, Jim Sinereli, who was

449
00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:14,240
Speaker 5: a character in his own right.

450
00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:15,160
Speaker 2: Yeah.

451
00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:18,120
Speaker 5: So yeah, so I think that it is the greatest

452
00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:21,480
Speaker 5: thing that's ever happened, because what a deserved person to

453
00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:25,399
Speaker 5: have the Kashmir moment interrupted by Ron And he really

454
00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:27,199
Speaker 5: did not he did not roll with it.

455
00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:28,280
Speaker 6: He was very uncomfortable.

456
00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:30,119
Speaker 2: But it was so also just like the artifice of

457
00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:35,399
Speaker 2: all that faux importance, like what's gonna happen. Yeah, You're

458
00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:35,960
Speaker 2: gonna walk.

459
00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:37,960
Speaker 5: Into the studio and you're like, I'm in the studio,

460
00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:38,720
Speaker 5: I work here.

461
00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:39,359
Speaker 2: Yeah.

462
00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:41,560
Speaker 3: What's crazy about the p Diddy of it all is

463
00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:44,600
Speaker 3: it's like you look back at his time of being

464
00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:48,320
Speaker 3: like when he was huge in pop culture, it was

465
00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:50,840
Speaker 3: always weird, Like if you go back and watch like

466
00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:53,800
Speaker 3: making the band. The way that he treats people I

467
00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:57,120
Speaker 3: know is so crazy. The way he talks to these

468
00:20:57,480 --> 00:20:59,240
Speaker 3: especially like I think it was the second season where

469
00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:00,240
Speaker 3: they were making Dannity.

470
00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:03,760
Speaker 2: The way he talks to these girls is absurd.

471
00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:05,880
Speaker 6: You wouldn't believe how they talked to us in the nineties.

472
00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:08,879
Speaker 5: I mean, it's really like the bend, the mine Bend

473
00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:10,439
Speaker 5: is like every now and then I look back and

474
00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:13,040
Speaker 5: I'm like, wow, like the things that we sort of endured,

475
00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:15,280
Speaker 5: but I mean whatever, like it all evolves, and thank

476
00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:16,840
Speaker 5: God for you guys in your generation.

477
00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:19,240
Speaker 2: And you know we didn't do it. No, you didn't

478
00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:21,719
Speaker 2: do that. You didn't do it.

479
00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:24,800
Speaker 5: You weren't born. No, But that's what I'm saying, Like

480
00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:26,760
Speaker 5: it's just been I really do want to speak to

481
00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:28,800
Speaker 5: what you said about community at the beginning of your show,

482
00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:31,360
Speaker 5: because I'm old enough now that I've endured a few

483
00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:34,040
Speaker 5: of these like bumps, And I was telling you right

484
00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:35,760
Speaker 5: before we went on, like the first time the election

485
00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:38,439
Speaker 5: didn't go, you know, our way, I had to do

486
00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:40,280
Speaker 5: a reshoot the next day of the Goldberg's where a

487
00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:41,119
Speaker 5: chandelier fell on me.

488
00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:43,960
Speaker 6: And it's literally like, how did it fall on you.

489
00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:49,840
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I'm sorry, sorry, but the characters were.

490
00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:52,840
Speaker 6: Very special.

491
00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:56,840
Speaker 2: Goldberg, No, I don't remember, just pretend to.

492
00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:58,520
Speaker 5: This year I had to wake up and dress up

493
00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:00,159
Speaker 5: as Martha Stewart and go be with Martha' Steuart on

494
00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:02,080
Speaker 5: The Drew berrymar Show and it did really And then

495
00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:06,360
Speaker 5: doing Mattress, which is this extraordinarily joy oriented show full.

496
00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:09,080
Speaker 2: Of people who are just of the best, sweetest intentions.

497
00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:11,000
Speaker 5: Everybody who did Mattress did it in high school or

498
00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:14,520
Speaker 5: a camp, and there's like this real kind of collective.

499
00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:16,440
Speaker 6: I do have this weird.

500
00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:20,520
Speaker 5: Moment of gratitude in this time that there are so

501
00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:23,000
Speaker 5: many of us who love making joy and who will

502
00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:24,919
Speaker 5: take care of one another and will take care of

503
00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:28,200
Speaker 5: our community. I have more faithly oddly enough than ever

504
00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:30,720
Speaker 5: in that. And I do feel like, whatever, even in

505
00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:32,960
Speaker 5: this terrible scenario, no matter how we want to parse it,

506
00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:35,680
Speaker 5: there's still half of us. I mean, it's a lot

507
00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:38,000
Speaker 5: of people. And you know, it's a lot of people.

508
00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:40,440
Speaker 2: It's millions and millions and millions of people.

509
00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:42,359
Speaker 5: And you guys know because you tour like I'm going

510
00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:44,639
Speaker 5: to Indiana, which is a red stake, and these people

511
00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:47,040
Speaker 5: show up with tears in their eyes at my shows sometimes.

512
00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:49,080
Speaker 5: I mean it's like the joy and that's an I

513
00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:51,560
Speaker 5: don't mean to be arrogant about that and whatever. Like

514
00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:54,920
Speaker 5: I just I feel like we have one move left

515
00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:57,160
Speaker 5: and that is literally sending the clowns. This is your job,

516
00:22:57,760 --> 00:22:59,359
Speaker 5: and have a good time doing it and take care

517
00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:01,560
Speaker 5: of other human beings because church is gone for a

518
00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:04,800
Speaker 5: lot of people. And as a singer, like corny part

519
00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:08,240
Speaker 5: of me, that is the closest I've ever felt to God.

520
00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:11,720
Speaker 5: And I'm not a religious person at all, like at all.

521
00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:14,640
Speaker 5: I went to a Quaker school, Like you know, that's

522
00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:16,440
Speaker 5: like as close as it got, which is not saying

523
00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:20,680
Speaker 5: very much, you know, so service, as you mentioned, reaching

524
00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:24,720
Speaker 5: outwards towards others when you are feeling desperate is very helpful. Yeah,

525
00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:27,520
Speaker 5: and singing with others, like there are these like pop

526
00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:29,479
Speaker 5: up one day choirs. Have you read about that?

527
00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:32,080
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, you don't have to audition, enjoy.

528
00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:33,800
Speaker 5: It, like people just get together to make music together.

529
00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:35,680
Speaker 5: And I do think when you sing and when you

530
00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:37,920
Speaker 5: join That's why I went back to do musicals after

531
00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:41,280
Speaker 5: all was said and done, because sharing that it's outside

532
00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:43,159
Speaker 5: of your control whether you can sing, you know, and

533
00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:45,080
Speaker 5: so like being able to share that with other people,

534
00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:46,120
Speaker 5: not to be corny, but like.

535
00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:47,359
Speaker 2: No, I don't think it's corny at all.

536
00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:51,080
Speaker 3: I actually think especially after like doing something and we

537
00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:53,719
Speaker 3: love SNL and you know, there's lots of amazing memories,

538
00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,080
Speaker 3: as you were saying, but it does feel like by

539
00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:58,040
Speaker 3: nature of the show, a lot is out of your control.

540
00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:00,760
Speaker 2: So when you leave, you want to run towards the joy.

541
00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:02,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I feel like, do you think that that

542
00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:05,440
Speaker 3: is a direct correlation that you can see in looking back?

543
00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:07,000
Speaker 2: That's such a cool way of putting in.

544
00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:09,680
Speaker 5: I've never thought about it that, yes, absolutely, And even

545
00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:12,080
Speaker 5: with regards to my gender and my whatever, all those

546
00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,200
Speaker 5: specific things to each of us that are we felt

547
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:17,400
Speaker 5: have impacted who we became or whatever. I do find,

548
00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:19,960
Speaker 5: especially in this chapter, which I guess is my third

549
00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:21,360
Speaker 5: chapter of five let's say.

550
00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:24,879
Speaker 2: Total, I definitely.

551
00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:30,080
Speaker 5: Got more thank you well listen, you know, but I

552
00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:33,760
Speaker 5: do in this chapter so many Like actually literally when

553
00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:35,680
Speaker 5: I got the offer for a mattress and I hadn't

554
00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:37,520
Speaker 5: worked for a while because I've seen your parents, I

555
00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:39,240
Speaker 5: was dealing with them and some stuff was going on,

556
00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:41,920
Speaker 5: and after the strike and all that, so I literally

557
00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:44,240
Speaker 5: looked at the offer and I saw the cast. I

558
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,840
Speaker 5: saw Daniel Breaker, I saw Brooks Ashmans because I saw Ston,

559
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:48,720
Speaker 5: I saw Michael, I saw like the people lined up,

560
00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:50,280
Speaker 5: and I said to my husband, oh my god, this

561
00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:52,560
Speaker 5: cast is so fun, and he was like, stop, don't

562
00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:53,800
Speaker 5: even tell me anything else about it.

563
00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:54,399
Speaker 2: Go do it.

564
00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:58,880
Speaker 5: Yes, for me, backstage is everything. It's much more fun

565
00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:01,560
Speaker 5: if each person's diff friend. But SNL my favorite was

566
00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:05,080
Speaker 5: never Saturday. My favorite was always the rewrite table, which

567
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:06,720
Speaker 5: is weird because the writers hate the rewrite table.

568
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:07,840
Speaker 6: But I loved it, Like I.

569
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:09,520
Speaker 5: Love the idea that you could be with all these

570
00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:13,439
Speaker 5: funny fuckers, Yeah, make your thing better and you're just

571
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:16,600
Speaker 5: like yeah, and like talking on Thursday's fun and the

572
00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:19,240
Speaker 5: joy of the community is ultimately for me what makes

573
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:22,600
Speaker 5: us a thing real. And Alphaba to that point was

574
00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:27,880
Speaker 5: a hard job to follow up SNL with Wicked was stupid.

575
00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:29,600
Speaker 2: You didn't give yourself a rap. I mean it was.

576
00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:32,040
Speaker 5: It's really hard, especially that early I was like the

577
00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:35,439
Speaker 5: whatever third, four, third or fourth alphabet place, So I

578
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:39,800
Speaker 5: mean I was yeah because it went. I was in

579
00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:41,840
Speaker 5: that audition round, which is how I got Chicago. So

580
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:44,760
Speaker 5: it was me Shoshana and Eden. I think, well, Eaten

581
00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:47,320
Speaker 5: and Shoshana had been standbys on Broadway, so usually those

582
00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:49,760
Speaker 5: people get bumped, kiss the bomp, the costumes already made,

583
00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:52,960
Speaker 5: but also because they're missing and they've been they are fantastic.

584
00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:56,080
Speaker 5: And then Stephanie had been in San Francisco when on

585
00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:57,600
Speaker 5: First National. And then I did Chicago.

586
00:25:57,800 --> 00:25:59,880
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, yes, so arguably I was the first

587
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:01,000
Speaker 2: outside the family.

588
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:05,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, but it was great, but it was super hard work.

589
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:09,159
Speaker 5: And Kate rinders. Oh, and so what I was starting

590
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:12,199
Speaker 5: to say is that Kate everything's funnier from Glinda, by

591
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:15,080
Speaker 5: the way, because they're also they talk literally like yeah, yeah, yeah,

592
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:16,920
Speaker 5: And like even when she was angry about something, she

593
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:18,960
Speaker 5: would be like he looks all for forty, you know,

594
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 5: like I would always gonna be last.

595
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:22,480
Speaker 2: But she said, she's like, we're broa best friend, so

596
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:24,520
Speaker 2: should we just we should just probably be best friends.

597
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:26,880
Speaker 5: And we were and we still are. Like she she's

598
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:30,680
Speaker 5: a really good girl, and we've always been very close.

599
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:33,000
Speaker 5: We just took care of each other. And again as

600
00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:34,720
Speaker 5: number one, and you know you said all the tones,

601
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:37,240
Speaker 5: I was like, we can gossip and we can talk shit,

602
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:38,360
Speaker 5: but only to each other.

603
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:40,600
Speaker 2: To each other. But you guys, really I think like

604
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:43,520
Speaker 2: people talk about that cast when you were alphabove, just

605
00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:46,000
Speaker 2: like that was setting this model for the future on

606
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,480
Speaker 2: like how like this is the tone setting that we want,

607
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:50,600
Speaker 2: this is the environment that we want. It's not toxic.

608
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:53,000
Speaker 2: And sometimes said anything before was like no, I know,

609
00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 2: just but.

610
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:55,639
Speaker 5: You know, but no, it really wasn't. It was a

611
00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 5: really sweet group of humans. And part of it was

612
00:26:57,600 --> 00:26:59,200
Speaker 5: Chicago too. We had a lot of step and we

613
00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:02,040
Speaker 5: like Ronnie like a Tony Winner from the Steppenwolf's production

614
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:05,440
Speaker 5: of August nosh County, Like incredible people were there. Heii,

615
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:07,399
Speaker 5: Kenton Ring, who I went to college with, like she

616
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:11,240
Speaker 5: played nessa forever. So there was this real gratitude amongst

617
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 5: a lot of the Chicago locals that were this is

618
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 5: a good equity gig for a long time. You know,

619
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:19,640
Speaker 5: people bought houses and stuff. So there was a nice feeling.

620
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:22,480
Speaker 5: And we did Thanksgiving together and we didn't and Mattresses,

621
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:24,000
Speaker 5: I mean next level.

622
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:28,440
Speaker 2: We have a book club company. We played Traders.

623
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:30,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean all of it, like all of the things.

624
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:35,439
Speaker 5: Daniel Breaker is like an incredible chef, so he's like

625
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 5: every other day they'll be like Oh, there's jambalaya in

626
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 5: the green room that Daniel made, you know, pullpork, he

627
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:41,199
Speaker 5: made pull pork the morning after be like.

628
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:44,359
Speaker 3: You can tell you actually can tell that. It's like

629
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:48,240
Speaker 3: that when you see the show, it's really fun and

630
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 3: you get the sense to that while all of the

631
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 3: amazing physical comedy is incredibly well blocked and everything, it

632
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 3: feels improvisational.

633
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 5: There's a lot of it.

634
00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:00,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the ensemble is really really engaged, a small ensemble.

635
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:03,320
Speaker 2: We're close. It's nice. Yeah, it's just a fun sure

636
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:05,239
Speaker 2: that there's those songs are really well.

637
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 5: The music is fantastic and that's actually probably the most

638
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 5: important part and nothing outside of our control. But because

639
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:11,639
Speaker 5: that stuff get when you do a music will get

640
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:13,720
Speaker 5: stuck in your head. I've been living with it for

641
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 5: some time. So what else?

642
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:16,160
Speaker 2: What else?

643
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 4: What?

644
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 5: Wait?

645
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 2: But was singing first or was it violin first? For you?

646
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 5: So violin theoretically? Yeah, and truly I love that you

647
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:25,720
Speaker 5: know that, but I really hated it. That's a lonely

648
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:26,359
Speaker 5: ass instrument.

649
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 2: Do you play the violin I played growing up? Yeah?

650
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 2: And I have neutral complicated feels about it. It's complid.

651
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 2: I was good at it, and I enjoyed it. It

652
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 2: was also I was better at the piano for sure.

653
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 5: But the perfectionism fact is really if you're a little

654
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:42,000
Speaker 5: OCD as I imagine all everybody in our community is, is

655
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 5: really dangerous and it's lonely like I mean, I mean

656
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 5: the sad part is like, so I was playing violin,

657
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 5: I was good, Yeah, same exact like you. Like if

658
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 5: I had really loved it, that would have been the thing.

659
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 5: Went to like camps for it and stuff like that,

660
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 5: and then I went to interlock in. Oh wow, theater

661
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:01,480
Speaker 5: camp break and I as a Island major and I

662
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 5: went and I was like, I want to do plays

663
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 5: like I saw. So I came back and immediately booked

664
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,720
Speaker 5: in my middle school Helen Keller and The Miracle Worker.

665
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,479
Speaker 2: He were you, Annie, I was Helen you were?

666
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 5: I mean, yes, go off.

667
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 2: I love it.

668
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 5: Even as blind defew Helen Keller. I was like, I'm home.

669
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 6: I found my thing.

670
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 5: And from then on I was like, oh, I think

671
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 5: this is my It was honestly, it was all backstage people.

672
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 5: It was people like in seventh grade. I was like, oh,

673
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 5: this is what I.

674
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 2: Want to do, like the bits, but I didn't know

675
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 2: that they were bits then I just thought, you know, funny,

676
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 2: was it college? Was it Northwestern where you were like comedy? Yes?

677
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 6: Because then I switched a voice.

678
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 5: I bargained out from violin because my family was very

679
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 5: classical music, very training oriented. So my mom there was

680
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 5: not going to be not doing an instrument or training

681
00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 5: of some sort. So I bargained into a classical vocal program.

682
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 5: I take some roles in the Washington Opera as a kid,

683
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 5: like Labom Children's Chorus, Ghost and Macbeth, like Barrie, which

684
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 5: I also hated, and then again community. I like the kids,

685
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 5: but that was it. And then when I got to

686
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 5: I sang my way into Northwestern. I never would have

687
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 5: gotten in without my audition. And then I was the

688
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:22,400
Speaker 5: worst music student on earth.

689
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:24,959
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't because you lost interest or I

690
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 2: just I.

691
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 5: Mean I did not want to be an opera singer.

692
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 5: And then I found improv therelay. It was called me

693
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 5: a Show, and like Seth was in it, and I

694
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 5: think Sarah Sherman was in it, and yeah it was

695
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:43,640
Speaker 5: it's a very like all the Julia Louis Dreyfus. Yeah, yeah, but.

696
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 2: That's how I did.

697
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 5: I just found the people, and I'm sure when you

698
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 5: start doing improv, you're like, oh my god, my mutant friends.

699
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:48,760
Speaker 2: Yes.

700
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 5: And then that's why I went to LA and went

701
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 5: into TV, and I didn't do anything thing vocally. I

702
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:56,200
Speaker 5: kind of part I was like, smoked a bunch of

703
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:58,760
Speaker 5: cigarettes and did comedy and then did the groundings.

704
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 6: But I was always like going back to singing.

705
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, because it's in the toolkit.

706
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 5: And then after SNL, I sort of wanted to like

707
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 5: it was reaction formation, the chaos, and the sort of

708
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 5: the thing I started to feel at the end of

709
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 5: SNL was I was sort of always just not failing,

710
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 5: if that makes sense.

711
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 6: Like I was sort of totally not like just pulling

712
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 6: it off.

713
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 5: Whereas with theater, like you have the opportunity to constantly

714
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 5: refine and make it better and better and better.

715
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 2: It's so ephemeral doing an SNL.

716
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 5: Sorry, yes, exactly exactly, and especially if you're one shot

717
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 5: Saturday night and you're like I kind of, you know,

718
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 5: didn't love how it went at air, I went, whatever.

719
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, that is a feeling. I guess you never get

720
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 3: to correct anything, never, never, which is kind of beautiful,

721
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 3: but also for yes, yes, yeah, I'm at the frustrating.

722
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 2: Point it's frustrating. It's a weird feeling because the stakes

723
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 2: feel very high, which they are.

724
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 6: But also what I will say is.

725
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:53,479
Speaker 5: Not that you're asking, but please you know, twenty two

726
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 5: years out, the part I remember is the creative part.

727
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 5: The part I remember is the people and the community

728
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 5: and the making thing, and those skills never go away.

729
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 5: They never go away, and the community never goes away.

730
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 5: I mean, I've worked with so many people across so

731
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 5: many generations of SNL that I wasn't even on the

732
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 5: show with but the shorthand of understanding one another. I mean,

733
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 5: Rachel and I never wrote together at the show, and

734
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 5: she's like my writing partner now. So it's like, wow,

735
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 5: you know yourma. I've done things with kred Ormiston and

736
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 5: I have done things like people who because you know

737
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 5: the shorthand, you know the mutant skin.

738
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 2: It's the mutant skin. And also but I feel like

739
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:28,719
Speaker 2: what you've done with that's an all sort of like

740
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 2: I don't know, I guess like holding some kind of

741
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 2: like weight on the tablescape of it is like so

742
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 2: like it is your own specific tableau of things, like

743
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 2: like no one else from mess and L has been

744
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 2: that kind of vocalist and has like used their specific

745
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:45,480
Speaker 2: talent in that way the way that you have. And

746
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 2: I feel like that's just what's kind of incredible about

747
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 2: well everything said.

748
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 5: You kind of you know whatever, what is it? Necessity

749
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 5: is a mother of invention. I mean just what things

750
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:54,959
Speaker 5: that you love and that you do and it gives you.

751
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 5: I mean, it really does give you the freedom to

752
00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 5: go a lot of places. Yeah, I mean it's insane.

753
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 5: I couldn't even get roles as a girl on SNL

754
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 5: in the nineties like coming out and then now like

755
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 5: it's just you know, the legacy of the place is

756
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 5: such a gift, Like it's unreal.

757
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 3: It's so crazy because I feel like that was the

758
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 3: time when everyone was talking about the women of SNL,

759
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 3: the women of est.

760
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 2: We definitely got a lot of attention.

761
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 5: We definitely did, And I don't mean to disturb that

762
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:21,720
Speaker 5: in any way, Like especially the beginning with Molly Sherry

763
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 5: and I just because it was coming, Like when I

764
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:25,480
Speaker 5: got the show, I'm not making this up, it was

765
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 5: a reset. People came up to me and they were like, Oh,

766
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:30,360
Speaker 5: you're so funny. I'm so bummed that you're going on SNL.

767
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 5: You're going to be squandered, like the idea of being

768
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 5: a woman on the show was not a good idea

769
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:37,960
Speaker 5: because they had just fired Janine Garoffalo do you remember that, and.

770
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 6: Women had been fired.

771
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 5: Like all these really kind of interesting girls had just

772
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 5: sort of been eaten up and chewed out. Right, they're

773
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 5: chewed up and now to say stay away from this metaphor, they.

774
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 2: Got lot of shit out.

775
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 5: And uh, it was hard, you know, there was it

776
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 5: was hard to navigate, but for whatever kind of cosmic reasons,

777
00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 5: the three of us kind of powered through. And then

778
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 5: and then by the time I left, it was there

779
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 5: were a lot of women. There was like Amy and

780
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 5: Tina and yes, all these kind of domin didn't feel watershed.

781
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 3: And then all of a sudden, almost like ever since then,

782
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:10,480
Speaker 3: it's like, who are the women in this?

783
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 2: Andw I love it this way? No one's really ever

784
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 2: talked about the guys since, and I'm like, that's totally fine.

785
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:17,720
Speaker 2: I think even now, it's like the women of SNL

786
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 2: are killing it. It's like, I love that the women

787
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 2: and bowen the women in this gig.

788
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 5: Guy, that's not true. You cut right through my friend.

789
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,719
Speaker 2: One of my fondest SNL memories ever was doing my

790
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:41,960
Speaker 2: most random update ever. I don't even want to mention

791
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:43,440
Speaker 2: it because it was just mentioned it that it was

792
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:45,920
Speaker 2: bottle Boy. It was a total like let's just fucking

793
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:48,719
Speaker 2: write it. It was fine, and then I just like

794
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 2: went into my dressing room and then I was just

795
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 2: kind of like I had like a light show. I

796
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 2: had nothing else to do, and I just sat in

797
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:54,840
Speaker 2: my dressing room and then I hear and knock at

798
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 2: the door, and I think it's like a page dropping off,

799
00:34:56,600 --> 00:35:00,239
Speaker 2: like Chris Red's lunch or something, and I'm like, come in, thing,

800
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:03,759
Speaker 2: another knock, come in, and then I finally like open

801
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 2: up the door, and then it's you, Drag and Tino

802
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:06,840
Speaker 2: is your aunties.

803
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 7: It was.

804
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:14,759
Speaker 2: We wanted to meet you. It was so surreal to me,

805
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 2: but the three of you at the same time screamed

806
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:21,719
Speaker 2: at the door. I like, come in, but I was

807
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:24,279
Speaker 2: like I couldn't believe it. And we talked about bar

808
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 2: Island and we talked about what we do and that

809
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:31,360
Speaker 2: was just such a I will never forget.

810
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 3: He texted me, when you guys you have to know,

811
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 3: like for gay boys who grew up with snel, like,

812
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:41,759
Speaker 3: you guys are legends and the like I'll never forget, Like,

813
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 3: I mean, we talked about geminized twin and talk about

814
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:45,800
Speaker 3: swoenty balls. All these things are like in the fabric

815
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 3: of our comedic upbring you know, and that that it's

816
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:51,319
Speaker 3: not just that I.

817
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 2: Mean mean girls, I mean like.

818
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 5: All these things, so many of the things, so many

819
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 5: of the.

820
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 3: Things I'll never forget, Like watching the the intro to

821
00:35:58,719 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 3: Diva's Live.

822
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:03,440
Speaker 2: Okay, you just said that. Well, I'm saying no, you

823
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 2: want to know why because when you your question about

824
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:07,919
Speaker 2: what the cultural moment is, I got there, like really chewing,

825
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 2: We'll get there.

826
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 5: But it's funny because I was like, do I bring

827
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:12,360
Speaker 5: up deep this last? Because I do that wasn't speaking

828
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 5: to the power of the women on the show. That

829
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 5: was a moment where I think, you know, you have

830
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:19,280
Speaker 5: these moments when you're like a nobody and then suddenly

831
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:21,479
Speaker 5: you're on and it must be so intense now because

832
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 5: you guys are all over social and whatever. We were

833
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:26,880
Speaker 5: just like quietly, I mean, you know, the day I

834
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:28,879
Speaker 5: got the show, I think I had on my og

835
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 5: answering machine, I thirty six like messages at the time.

836
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:34,360
Speaker 5: I was like, And it's also funny because there's a

837
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,840
Speaker 5: lot of assholes, like the agents are doing sign you

838
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 5: and stuff.

839
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 2: Like you know, were like, I just wanted to say congratulations.

840
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 6: We had such a sense and you've landed raised such

841
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 6: a sense even though we told.

842
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 5: You you weren't wouldn't work and see you look like

843
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 5: Courtney thorn Smith deep cut but true I had twice

844
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 5: I had that had such to me twice.

845
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 6: I don't want to say, isn't that crazy?

846
00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 5: I know, well, Tina and I have a saying which

847
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:00,840
Speaker 5: is ethnic in the eighties because we both had like

848
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 5: super Greek care.

849
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 2: We were ethnic in the eighties breakness.

850
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:13,880
Speaker 5: So it was literally like I was, yeah, so ethnic

851
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 5: in the eighties and now because literally my school was

852
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 5: like you know, wanted me to do whatever. The West

853
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 5: Side store like now you're like, my daughter is scandalized.

854
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 3: Yes, but you so you were Celine Dion, Molly was Shanayah,

855
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:33,280
Speaker 3: and Sherry was Mariah and it was the three of you,

856
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 3: like all discussing. It was a sketch with the three

857
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:37,360
Speaker 3: of you before the show started.

858
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:39,880
Speaker 5: Do you know who was there, you guys was Destiny's child.

859
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:43,400
Speaker 5: We were introducing Destiny's child. Isn't that crazy?

860
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:45,879
Speaker 2: After you'd already done no, because I hadn't been the show.

861
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 5: I wasn't on the show on the show yet. It

862
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 5: was it was ninety six, I think or seven, early seven,

863
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:52,359
Speaker 5: and that was my first moment where I was like, oh,

864
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:55,279
Speaker 5: we're this is a thing. And the first paper to

865
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 5: mention it, the first paper of record was Playboy.

866
00:37:59,440 --> 00:37:59,720
Speaker 2: Wow.

867
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:02,799
Speaker 5: Playboy did like a little story on the girls of

868
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 5: SNL popping.

869
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 3: Wow.

870
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 6: Weird, but it used to be. My husband has a plan,

871
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:09,480
Speaker 6: by the way, Playboys for sale.

872
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 5: He's like, I think we should buy Playboy, and we

873
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:14,759
Speaker 5: should just quietly talk to all the white straight boys

874
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 5: who don't know how to vote and gave them a

875
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 5: place that isn't like such like it's only semi.

876
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:29,840
Speaker 2: Toxic masculinity exactly, give him a gray scale gale. Yeah,

877
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 2: so I think we'll include. I mean, I have I

878
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 2: have a sweet straight boy, so I want to I

879
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 2: want it to be they're not all bad, they're all bad,

880
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:38,760
Speaker 2: like like how'd you get him that way?

881
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:43,239
Speaker 5: He has an anxiety disorder. That's so he just runs constantly.

882
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 5: He runs, like constantly running, like running running, like he

883
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:52,280
Speaker 5: ran the Brooklyn Half as a sophomore in high school,

884
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:55,399
Speaker 5: like he's so that's how he handles his despair without

885
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 5: the money.

886
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 3: Looking back, I know that was why I was a

887
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:01,440
Speaker 3: runner too, and because I was also a heavy track athlete.

888
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:04,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I you were looking back, I'm like it

889
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 2: was my anxiety. Oh yeah, anxiety.

890
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 5: I ran across country high school too, did you badly?

891
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 2: Badly? But I liked it.

892
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:12,880
Speaker 5: It was the only thing kept me saying because it

893
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:16,239
Speaker 5: was you know, very sure it was prediagnosis.

894
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:17,760
Speaker 2: Times right, right right, I keep.

895
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:20,239
Speaker 6: Aging myself in my day.

896
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:23,279
Speaker 2: My mother bought me Dexa trim. Dexa trim.

897
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:24,439
Speaker 5: My mom bought me Dexa trim.

898
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 2: Can you imagine? Yeah, like you know what you should.

899
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:31,360
Speaker 5: Probably we all did the Scarsdale Dialet diet, which was gross.

900
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:34,799
Speaker 5: It was like half a I can't imagine having an

901
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:36,839
Speaker 5: adolescent in my house and being like, here's your half

902
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 5: a grape fruit and black coffee. Yes it was black coffee,

903
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:50,480
Speaker 5: half a grape fruit, and then hilarious eighties pasta for dinner. Well,

904
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:52,239
Speaker 5: you're all on dexterterrim anyway, so it didn't matter.

905
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:54,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know what, there was high.

906
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:56,760
Speaker 6: As a kite, Judy Garland, Jesus.

907
00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:00,080
Speaker 3: We were told like you can't eat enough pasta the runner,

908
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like it was a carbo

909
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:02,319
Speaker 3: load all the time.

910
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:03,399
Speaker 6: That's actually still a thing.

911
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I remember I would go for pasta party

912
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 3: dinners at Applebee's and I would fuck myself up because

913
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 3: I would just have the three cheese chicken penny and

914
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:13,319
Speaker 3: I would run my race the next day.

915
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, but look, there was a day where I had

916
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 2: to stop and ship, which.

917
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 6: Is like, yes, I just read an article about it.

918
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, like it's it's out there, it's happening. We're kind

919
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:25,720
Speaker 3: of existing in this area where I think we should

920
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 3: ask the question. Yes, I think we're short of back

921
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 3: in time. So Ana Gostayer, what was the culture that

922
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 3: made you say culture was for you?

923
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:34,719
Speaker 5: Okay, so I'm going to be this is I'm not

924
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 5: gonna be as fun on this answer. Okay, we are

925
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:39,319
Speaker 5: existing in this time and it is the only thing

926
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 5: I can think of, And it's going to sound really

927
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:42,799
Speaker 5: humble braggy, but it is about SNL and it's about

928
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:43,720
Speaker 5: the importance of laughter.

929
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 6: I can't believe I just said that.

930
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 5: My friend Tony and I have a bit where we

931
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:48,840
Speaker 5: always make fun of people who use the word humor.

932
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 2: Of course it's so humor they kill it.

933
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 5: Just just this sucks all common Yeah, people who call

934
00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 5: that out exactly. I love how you use humor. Humor,

935
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:04,800
Speaker 5: some humorous done, use umor to difuse awkward situations. Yes,

936
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:08,839
Speaker 5: just destroying it, ruining everything random humor.

937
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:10,920
Speaker 2: We my what I was gonna say.

938
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:12,799
Speaker 6: So this is a weird thing to throw out there.

939
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:16,759
Speaker 5: But as a kid, I was friends with Amy Carter,

940
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 5: President Jimmy Carter's daughter. Oh, I grew up in Washington, Okay,

941
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 5: so for starters, let me just start with culture. Like,

942
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 5: I grew up in a totally black neighborhood. I was

943
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:25,279
Speaker 5: a little white girl who played the violin, and I

944
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 5: had an eye patch, wow due to blindness, oh, due

945
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 5: to due to permanent just whatever legal blindness my writing.

946
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 6: So I was always patched. They patched me for like ever.

947
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:38,759
Speaker 7: So I was.

948
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:40,840
Speaker 6: I would go to like my all black elementary school

949
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:41,239
Speaker 6: with my.

950
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 5: Violin and my eye patch, and as you can imagine,

951
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 5: I developed a sense of I used humor to situations. Okay,

952
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:49,919
Speaker 5: so anyway, but then weirdly it was in this after

953
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:52,239
Speaker 5: school program like this GT kind of thing, and I

954
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 5: got I became friends with Amy Carter, Jimmy Carter's daughter,

955
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 5: and we became really good friends. And she played the

956
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 5: violin and she was like a reader. And so I

957
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:02,719
Speaker 5: weirdly had this whole childhood life in middle school where

958
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 5: I would go and like sleep over at the White

959
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:07,279
Speaker 5: House and like go to Camp David, Like I went

960
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 5: to Camp David.

961
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:09,359
Speaker 2: During the camp.

962
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 5: During during the Camp David Accord, I played if You

963
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:15,240
Speaker 5: Research It, if you go to the Viola for Anwar,

964
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 5: Sadat and knockam Big and just me, And it's such

965
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 5: a weird, yes, for the Middle Eastern I watched Star

966
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:23,879
Speaker 5: Wars with the Sadats insane thing.

967
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 2: Okay, so we're just to make this clear. This is

968
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:27,360
Speaker 2: while he was president.

969
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:30,840
Speaker 5: Okay, so all this kind of weird fact about my

970
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 5: life just by this accident of biography, Okay to say

971
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 5: that I was in the White House sleeping over at

972
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 5: Amy Carter's. And now remember Saturday Night Live started in

973
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:44,880
Speaker 5: seventy five, Yes, and it was everybody, like liberal parents,

974
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:47,239
Speaker 5: all the people on my block, everybody was aware that

975
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 5: this kind of like radical piece of television had come out.

976
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 5: And again, I know for your audience, like it's hard

977
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 5: to imagine, but nobody had made fun of the news.

978
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:58,880
Speaker 5: Nobody had made fun of like basic sort of tropes

979
00:42:58,880 --> 00:42:59,759
Speaker 5: that we're accustomed to.

980
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:02,280
Speaker 6: The onion like that was so radical.

981
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:04,319
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I was a kid, I was little, but

982
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 5: I was aware that they were like edgy and cool

983
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 5: and making choices that were strange and wearing costumes and funny,

984
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:12,239
Speaker 5: like we knew it was cool and him it's right

985
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 5: after Watergate. It's right right after water Gate. And basically

986
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:17,840
Speaker 5: what we watched was which was great. It was like

987
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 5: Carol Burnette and Bob Newhart and like what was on

988
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 5: TV when it was scheduled. So you just kind of

989
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:25,920
Speaker 5: like consumed television idly if you will it. So and

990
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 5: again also I remember I was ten eleven. So I'm

991
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:32,239
Speaker 5: in the White House and it's after dinner. It's late

992
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 5: where it's a sleepover, and we go to this little

993
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 5: like kitchenette in the in the living quarters and President

994
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 5: Carter was like never there because he was the president

995
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 5: and we were usually just with her nanny and her

996
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 5: maybe Rosland Carter was around a little bit, and we

997
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:47,839
Speaker 5: went to get a snack and we came out and

998
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 5: sort of in the middle of the White House living area,

999
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 5: President Jimmy Carter was sitting in a chair with a

1000
00:43:56,640 --> 00:44:01,440
Speaker 5: burgundy v neck and a beer and he was watching

1001
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:05,719
Speaker 5: dan akroy Oh play himself on Saturday Night Live, and

1002
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 5: he was laughing hysterically.

1003
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:08,480
Speaker 2: Oh my god.

1004
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:12,360
Speaker 5: And it imprinted in my brain of the well, obviously,

1005
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:15,920
Speaker 5: the surrealness of like whatever, there's this person dressed as

1006
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 5: this person imitating this person president leader of the Free world.

1007
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 5: And I'll also I just think he's the most amazing

1008
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:23,320
Speaker 5: human being obviously, you know, although he went on to

1009
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 5: do incredible acts of humanity humanism, but it has stayed

1010
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:32,239
Speaker 5: with me so much in the last twelve years, our

1011
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:34,759
Speaker 5: lack of empathy and understanding, like when as soon as

1012
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 5: the president elect I'm not going to say his name,

1013
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 5: was not able to laugh at anything about himself. In fact,

1014
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:42,120
Speaker 5: arguably ran for president because he was a laughing stock,

1015
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:44,920
Speaker 5: right because Seth made fun of him. It's so the

1016
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 5: ability to laugh at things and the ability to pull

1017
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:49,400
Speaker 5: yourself out of situations and to find what's funny about it.

1018
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:50,759
Speaker 5: And I can't even believe I'm saying this, but like

1019
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 5: the gift that humor does actually give us as a

1020
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:57,239
Speaker 5: piece of sort of like storytelling and political commentary as

1021
00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 5: much as like, I really hated addressing as Martha Stewart

1022
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:01,880
Speaker 5: day after the election, and I hated doing the Goldbergs

1023
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:05,919
Speaker 5: and having chandelier followed me. It's more important than I thought,

1024
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:07,719
Speaker 5: you know. And I feel like we're going to have

1025
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 5: a lot of places in this new era where whatever

1026
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:12,879
Speaker 5: news has proven itself to beyond trustworthy, and social media

1027
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 5: has certainly proven itself to be on like maybe we

1028
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 5: idiotic performers will be able to tell the truth a

1029
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 5: little bit.

1030
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:19,759
Speaker 2: It's starting it all.

1031
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 3: Deep and what a special memory.

1032
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:26,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, that is wild.

1033
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 5: Even my ten year old brain was like, oh, he's

1034
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:31,719
Speaker 5: so good at he's laughing at himself. Like I understood

1035
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:33,880
Speaker 5: it on some profound level.

1036
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:38,279
Speaker 2: And like you understood what was being shown on television

1037
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:40,880
Speaker 2: was this, like I mean lampooning.

1038
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 5: I mean, I don't think I will Like I was

1039
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 5: a kid, so I wasn't like dialed into like the

1040
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 5: nuance of the politic, you know, but you just understood

1041
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 5: that he understood that it was an impression of him

1042
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 5: that he was we were in the White House, and

1043
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 5: that he was watching this Saturday night live still and

1044
00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 5: yet that one of the cooler pieces of cultural reflection

1045
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 5: in our in our society, and that he understood that

1046
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:04,920
Speaker 5: it was funny and that there was a power to that.

1047
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like the ron thing or it's like it's

1048
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 2: like whatever. It's like it's like either youther, either you

1049
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 2: get it or you don't. Yeah, and like right now

1050
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:14,880
Speaker 2: you gotta get it.

1051
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:16,719
Speaker 6: We gotta get it. I mean it's really hard.

1052
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 5: I don't get it. I don't think anything's funny right

1053
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:20,399
Speaker 5: now except for you and all the work that you do.

1054
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 5: But it's like, but you know what I'm saying, Like

1055
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:25,799
Speaker 5: yeah and whatever. Sometimes that means we just need something

1056
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:27,480
Speaker 5: light and fluffy and joyful and something is whatever the

1057
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:28,239
Speaker 5: moment calls for.

1058
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 2: I just it's about humility. It's about it takes you

1059
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:33,920
Speaker 2: out of It takes you out of like thinking that

1060
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 2: your own reality is the most important one.

1061
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:38,239
Speaker 3: I've definitely been thinking a lot about like because as

1062
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 3: we as we have like this platform where we're expected

1063
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 3: to come in on culture and everything, it has been

1064
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:46,480
Speaker 3: I don't know how if you feel this way, but

1065
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 3: it sometimes can be confusing about like do we come

1066
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:53,359
Speaker 3: on here and like say this is what I think

1067
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 3: and like that's that and react in real time or

1068
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:57,839
Speaker 3: are we supposed to be clowns? And I think it's

1069
00:46:57,840 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 3: sort of a mix of both. It's been an interesting one,

1070
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:02,880
Speaker 3: and you know, I would imagine that like it feels

1071
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:05,160
Speaker 3: probably very similar when you are on Saturday Night Live.

1072
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:07,760
Speaker 3: It's like we do have to speak to real issues,

1073
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:10,839
Speaker 3: but also at the same time, like what we do

1074
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:13,759
Speaker 3: and what our talents are are being funny and being

1075
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:16,279
Speaker 3: the gesters. And the literal role of the gester is

1076
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 3: to point to the king and say, this is what's

1077
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:21,959
Speaker 3: crazy about the king, I mean, And it feels that's

1078
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 3: like where humor, that's like where comedy is birthed from.

1079
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:29,440
Speaker 3: That's literally the job of the comedian is to do

1080
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 3: the very thing. But it can sometimes feel I think,

1081
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 3: and this is where I think we can as comedians

1082
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 3: and as people in the arts check ourselves. Is it

1083
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:40,920
Speaker 3: can become very self important and.

1084
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:45,239
Speaker 2: I want to get in there.

1085
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:49,399
Speaker 3: But when people I sometimes like, for example, I've really

1086
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 3: been thinking a lot about like the celebrity endorsement, right,

1087
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 3: and like how it didn't I mean, it literally didn't

1088
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:59,239
Speaker 3: matter at all in one sense, Like of course, it's

1089
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:02,360
Speaker 3: great to be able to speak out against like fascism

1090
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:06,080
Speaker 3: and these like objective evils and to let people know like, Hi, women,

1091
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:08,840
Speaker 3: I see you, I'm sticking up for you. I'm standing

1092
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 3: up to this. But at the same time, it feels

1093
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 3: like we've been given a clear message that like the

1094
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:19,319
Speaker 3: public I think across the board wants entertainers to be entertainers,

1095
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 3: not schols and not schold and also to not feel

1096
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 3: like they can control culture, because I think we've seen

1097
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:26,400
Speaker 3: that they don't.

1098
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:28,439
Speaker 2: You know what I mean. I'm not saying like, don't

1099
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 2: speak up, but I.

1100
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 5: Say I mean I do see some fault at the

1101
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:33,920
Speaker 5: feet of those who have characterized it as such. I

1102
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 5: do feel like, yes, stay in your lane to a

1103
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:38,479
Speaker 5: certain degree, but we also are what we're made of, right, Yeah,

1104
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:41,000
Speaker 5: So finding common ground as human beings is part of

1105
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 5: what comedy is, like finding the things that we share

1106
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:44,719
Speaker 5: in common. And actually, I do think it gets harder

1107
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 5: and harder and harder as we're more and more sort

1108
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 5: of forced into these tribal lanes. It's really it's really tricky,

1109
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:53,239
Speaker 5: but you know whatever, Like I love That's what I'm saying,

1110
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:55,760
Speaker 5: Like I love doing shows in Kansas and Red States

1111
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 5: and you know, places where I can just share a

1112
00:48:58,160 --> 00:48:59,919
Speaker 5: love of the holidays and try to find a place

1113
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:04,520
Speaker 5: that's like a little less lightning roddy for people. But

1114
00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 5: there are fewer and fewer places to do that. The

1115
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:09,239
Speaker 5: holidays is one, but just the things that we all

1116
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:13,799
Speaker 5: kind of universally share. But I do feel like I

1117
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 5: guess what I was really trying to say is that

1118
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:17,800
Speaker 5: people like shut up, you entitled libs. I think that

1119
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 5: that's very activating for me too, because in many ways

1120
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 5: we share the same values, and I think for women

1121
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:25,920
Speaker 5: in particular, it's heartbreak.

1122
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:28,560
Speaker 2: I mean, Beyonce Taylor Swift, like those people showing.

1123
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:31,560
Speaker 5: Up men to people like my daughter who are twenty two,

1124
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 5: it meant a lot because it's very it's a very

1125
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:37,000
Speaker 5: hopeless feeling to be a young woman right now in

1126
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 5: this country, not just from the tactical standpoints of reproductive care,

1127
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:44,400
Speaker 5: but also you know, they've now in their very short lives,

1128
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:49,879
Speaker 5: seen misogyny really run the roar, you know, now pull

1129
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:52,759
Speaker 5: the camera back. We've run two candidates in twelve years.

1130
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:54,799
Speaker 5: It's not bad. I never thought a woman was even

1131
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:56,920
Speaker 5: an option for a president, let alone a person of color,

1132
00:49:57,200 --> 00:50:01,120
Speaker 5: Like it was not even in there. So whatever, fifty years, yeah,

1133
00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:03,880
Speaker 5: we're probably gonna have both of those boxes checked.

1134
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:06,480
Speaker 2: You know, it just feels very immediate right now, right,

1135
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 2: And this is the thing that I've learned from like

1136
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:11,880
Speaker 2: my Shoemaker via Seth. Yeah, I don't know if this

1137
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:14,759
Speaker 2: gives me pause or if this like puts me into

1138
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:17,719
Speaker 2: more despair. Yeah, yeah, I'm just like anytime Seth wanted

1139
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:19,840
Speaker 2: to have it out with someone at SNL, like Shoemaker

1140
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:21,400
Speaker 2: to be like, it's a long life. It's a lot

1141
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:24,799
Speaker 2: if you wait, whatever you're feeling about these particular people

1142
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:26,040
Speaker 2: is going to go away and then they'll be at

1143
00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:29,320
Speaker 2: your wedding. And like, well that is true about SNL totally.

1144
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:31,440
Speaker 2: And I don't know that. I don't know how the ground.

1145
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 5: I don't think Trump it's gonna come to any of

1146
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:35,239
Speaker 5: my children's keep mine.

1147
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:37,839
Speaker 2: Can it happen? I don't know. You were friends with

1148
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:38,440
Speaker 2: the Carters.

1149
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:41,560
Speaker 5: It's true. I was friends with the Carter, but I

1150
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:43,719
Speaker 5: he turned out to be the best president ever.

1151
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 2: My god, did you ever go to Georgia or Atlanta

1152
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:46,759
Speaker 2: or no?

1153
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:48,759
Speaker 5: I mean they literally moved back and that was sort

1154
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:50,880
Speaker 5: of that. And again, this was like pre it was

1155
00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 5: like long distance phone calls something, you know, But I

1156
00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:56,919
Speaker 5: mean we had some friends in common over the years,

1157
00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 5: and President Carter did depend and whatever. This is just

1158
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:02,560
Speaker 5: humble bragging now, but somebody told me that a book

1159
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:06,799
Speaker 5: on tape editor had also worked on his memoirs, and

1160
00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:08,800
Speaker 5: I don't know how it came up, but he mentioned

1161
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 5: he was like, oh, the comedian on a gas styre,

1162
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 5: she was a friend of these. But it was such

1163
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 5: a weird feeling that he knew who I was, but like,

1164
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:17,719
Speaker 5: of course, like I was on television but not of course.

1165
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:19,360
Speaker 3: But but no, but at a time when everyone but

1166
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:21,759
Speaker 3: it seemed that was monocultures, I know, was monoculture.

1167
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the think about Christmas. Sorry to go back

1168
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:23,920
Speaker 2: to this, but.

1169
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:27,239
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah you can so braggy, you know.

1170
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:31,240
Speaker 2: But you two kind of going across the country performing

1171
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:34,360
Speaker 2: these shows about Christmas, having it be so resident and

1172
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:36,640
Speaker 2: people loving it. It's like Christmas feels like the Holidays

1173
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 2: feel like the last kind of they do.

1174
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:39,160
Speaker 6: They're the last safe space.

1175
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:42,239
Speaker 5: And also because they are so just admittedly pagan at

1176
00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:44,080
Speaker 5: this point, it's not like, you.

1177
00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:45,359
Speaker 2: Know, I know what's funny about it.

1178
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 5: I know it is kind of funny because I just

1179
00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:49,960
Speaker 5: feel like people like need a fucking break, like they

1180
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:53,240
Speaker 5: just can I say fucking yeah that they like people

1181
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:54,960
Speaker 5: are just tired and they want to be it's a

1182
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:57,920
Speaker 5: funny time for programming. Like it also gets really because

1183
00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:00,120
Speaker 5: I've done so much now, like with Cluster Funk, with

1184
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:03,160
Speaker 5: our Christmas movie and Lifetime and Hallmark and like we're

1185
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:06,960
Speaker 5: developing the Cluster Funk into a musical actually over the stage.

1186
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:08,200
Speaker 2: But I know, so fun.

1187
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:11,120
Speaker 5: But everyone's always like, well, yeah, it's such a weird

1188
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:12,880
Speaker 5: time with program because nobody thinks about it.

1189
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:14,200
Speaker 6: And then everybody's trapped in the.

1190
00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:17,279
Speaker 5: House and they're all watching Hallmark movies because all they

1191
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:17,520
Speaker 5: want to.

1192
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:19,759
Speaker 2: Do it's comfort food because they just want something new

1193
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:22,040
Speaker 2: because the old stuff kind of like, why don't we

1194
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:24,719
Speaker 2: visit the old stuff? There's not that much, but many

1195
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 2: people do. I know many people do. But I'm like, like.

1196
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 6: I do, White Christmas.

1197
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:28,319
Speaker 2: I do.

1198
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:31,239
Speaker 5: It's a wonderful life. Yeah I do, Rudolph, I do.

1199
00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:37,240
Speaker 5: What do you do, Charlie Brown? Yeah, there's there's Yeah.

1200
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:39,680
Speaker 3: The heat Miser. Those are bops by the way, Yeah,

1201
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:43,240
Speaker 3: Heat Miser. Whatever I touch starts to melt in my clutch.

1202
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:47,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm too much ranking and bass right, Yeah that was.

1203
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:48,919
Speaker 3: Good, you know, What's funny though, Like you're talking about

1204
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:52,440
Speaker 3: like going to like red states, and I remember I

1205
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:54,799
Speaker 3: was looking at because I'm going on the road yea

1206
00:52:55,400 --> 00:53:00,960
Speaker 3: for all of December, and the by far slowest markets,

1207
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:03,080
Speaker 3: like the tour is selling great, but like the slowest

1208
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 3: ones were Philadelphia and Atlanta, And I asked my agent.

1209
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:07,600
Speaker 2: I'm like, why are these so slow? And they were like, oh,

1210
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:09,000
Speaker 2: because those cities are.

1211
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:13,799
Speaker 3: Like the anxiety is so high for the election, and like,

1212
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:16,719
Speaker 3: as you said, across the board, like those are any

1213
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:19,480
Speaker 3: swing state is like tough. And now it's kind of like,

1214
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:22,279
Speaker 3: I really do hope people like come out because I

1215
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:24,839
Speaker 3: think that the amount of anxiety that had to have

1216
00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:27,520
Speaker 3: been felt that.

1217
00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:30,040
Speaker 2: Think about how I got robo calls exactly.

1218
00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:32,319
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, speaking a lot of money, I bet too,

1219
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:34,959
Speaker 3: like at different events and because people that were really

1220
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:38,040
Speaker 3: activated in those areas are spending a lot of money,

1221
00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:40,280
Speaker 3: like in the way that other areas may.

1222
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:40,600
Speaker 2: Not have been.

1223
00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:45,160
Speaker 3: Also just I mean, we were in Pennsylvania recently and

1224
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:48,440
Speaker 3: it's tense, Like it is tense you look around at

1225
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:50,239
Speaker 3: people and you're like, how are you looking at me?

1226
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:52,359
Speaker 3: And I think that you know what I'm saying.

1227
00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:55,920
Speaker 2: And we were just there. It was rough. It.

1228
00:53:56,520 --> 00:53:59,440
Speaker 5: I had people like in campussing say like I'm afraid

1229
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:01,880
Speaker 5: to vote because I'm afraid what my neighbors will do.

1230
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:05,440
Speaker 2: I mean, it's you know, people are scared. Yeah, it's tough.

1231
00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 5: That's why we're going to continue to Christmas write a moment.

1232
00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:12,720
Speaker 6: Christmas bring in that class.

1233
00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:16,880
Speaker 2: I feel the Send of the Clouds theme is really

1234
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:19,120
Speaker 2: really trenchent or trench.

1235
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:21,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know what trench, but I like it.

1236
00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:23,160
Speaker 3: We need to find out in real time.

1237
00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:27,160
Speaker 2: Well, Christmas on the cover, Favorite Christmas on the cover

1238
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:29,360
Speaker 2: on the album or off the album, off Sugar and

1239
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:31,800
Speaker 2: Booze favorite Chris Chrimas song to cover I'm So Sorry

1240
00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:33,960
Speaker 2: to cover. Well, I love the version that I on

1241
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:36,560
Speaker 2: my album is a sleigh ride. Great.

1242
00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:38,480
Speaker 5: Nobody like it's not that popular, Like I don't know

1243
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 5: what he listens to it, but I love it's like

1244
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:43,360
Speaker 5: this sort of Boss on Nova cover and I love Yeah, yeah, You're.

1245
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:46,680
Speaker 2: At home in that style and that like sort of

1246
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:47,280
Speaker 2: like Cuman.

1247
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:50,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, we have that secret Santa song that I wrote. Yeah,

1248
00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 5: Maya is so funny on it. You know where we

1249
00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:54,400
Speaker 5: recorded that, which is so crazy because Maya's like knows everybody.

1250
00:54:54,520 --> 00:55:00,600
Speaker 5: We recorded that in Joni Mitchell's studio in La because

1251
00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:02,840
Speaker 5: her friend like runs that studio. Oh, it's amazing, and

1252
00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:05,480
Speaker 5: actually Pharrell, they stuck us in. Just do it really

1253
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:07,319
Speaker 5: fast because apparently Farrell had it for the day, So

1254
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:10,600
Speaker 5: Farrell doesn't know that he paid for my studio time

1255
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:12,200
Speaker 5: that song, which is kind of.

1256
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 2: He's good for it.

1257
00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:18,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, means vigorous or incisive in expression or style.

1258
00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:21,279
Speaker 2: And what did I say, was trenchent the point that

1259
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:23,480
Speaker 2: the ten in the Clowns, Then in the Clowns is

1260
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:26,600
Speaker 2: is trunchient. I would say vigorous and incisive an expression, yeah,

1261
00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:32,480
Speaker 2: in the clown Yeah, in the Clowns is trunchent. That's

1262
00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:34,640
Speaker 2: the r of culture. That's real culture. Number seventy five.

1263
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:39,640
Speaker 2: Then is good. You would do a great rendition of

1264
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:41,960
Speaker 2: that song. It's kind of a downer, yeah, but that's yeah,

1265
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:44,839
Speaker 2: but there there's an ounce of triumph to.

1266
00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:45,680
Speaker 5: It, yeah, a little bit.

1267
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:48,560
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think it's beautiful and how sad and resign.

1268
00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:51,520
Speaker 5: I know now that I'm in my third chapter, I

1269
00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:53,920
Speaker 5: don't feel anything. I try to shut down feelings as

1270
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:56,200
Speaker 5: fast as possible, you know what. I know it's because

1271
00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:58,239
Speaker 5: I figure chapter it is going to be about getting them, no. Four,

1272
00:55:58,400 --> 00:55:59,719
Speaker 5: because fourth chapter, a lot of people are going to

1273
00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:01,920
Speaker 5: start dying, and so then I'm going to have to

1274
00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:04,520
Speaker 5: cry a lot. So and then by fifth chapter be like,

1275
00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:07,560
Speaker 5: well that we were good friends, and then I'll be it.

1276
00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:08,320
Speaker 2: It is crazy.

1277
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:12,239
Speaker 3: Like I was watching like Hillary was obviously doing the

1278
00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:14,360
Speaker 3: rounds a little bit and a lot of her friends

1279
00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:14,759
Speaker 3: are dead.

1280
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:20,680
Speaker 7: Hillary, Well, Kelly, she's talking about, well, this is my

1281
00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:22,480
Speaker 7: friend who died, and this is my friend who died.

1282
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:25,120
Speaker 3: And I was like, oh god, I mean, it happened,

1283
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:25,960
Speaker 3: It happened.

1284
00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:29,279
Speaker 5: My friend Kelly was she was She was like, we

1285
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:31,239
Speaker 5: were talking about when certain people were going to die,

1286
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:33,320
Speaker 5: that you know, might die, that maybe we're just selected.

1287
00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:36,839
Speaker 5: And we were talking just like loosely about that, and

1288
00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:38,759
Speaker 5: she was just some theory, you know, just how that

1289
00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:40,560
Speaker 5: might go. And she was saying, she was like the

1290
00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:42,960
Speaker 5: people who feel died more right.

1291
00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:45,080
Speaker 2: No, no, no, some someone was saying this, like people

1292
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:48,000
Speaker 2: were that disgusting. Tend to live so.

1293
00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:50,000
Speaker 6: Long, guys, I know, because they don't. They're not trouble.

1294
00:56:50,040 --> 00:57:00,239
Speaker 5: They don't get cancer from being sad.

1295
00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:04,160
Speaker 3: The point I was making earlier, I'm a little self

1296
00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:06,520
Speaker 3: conscious about because it's not really what I believe about

1297
00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:08,920
Speaker 3: celebrities and the celebrity endorsement of it all.

1298
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:10,000
Speaker 2: No said that.

1299
00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:13,520
Speaker 3: What I'm talking about it is like standing up for

1300
00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:16,480
Speaker 3: issues is important, and I think standing up for women

1301
00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:19,120
Speaker 3: is important. I just think all of that is important.

1302
00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:21,880
Speaker 3: What I'm saying is, though, when a celebrity is at

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00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:26,240
Speaker 3: a certain privilege level, are some people are not listening

1304
00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:28,640
Speaker 3: and they feel patronized for it, And I think there's

1305
00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:33,360
Speaker 3: something to learn from that match in maybe how comfortable

1306
00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:34,200
Speaker 3: we all felt.

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Speaker 5: No listen, I want to say, my husband just he's

1308
00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:39,200
Speaker 5: an advertising but he just did this huge research project

1309
00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:41,960
Speaker 5: on the heartland because he also feels as as we

1310
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:44,680
Speaker 5: all do. I think correctly that many people in rural

1311
00:57:44,680 --> 00:57:48,840
Speaker 5: America feel patronized and they that is an understandable point

1312
00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:51,800
Speaker 5: of view. That is I think very real, and it

1313
00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:55,880
Speaker 5: is incumbent upon us to find common ground when people

1314
00:57:55,920 --> 00:57:57,919
Speaker 5: feel that marginalized.

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00:57:58,000 --> 00:57:59,600
Speaker 6: Right, And what's.

1316
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:02,440
Speaker 5: Interesting is that this is common ground that he discovered.

1317
00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:04,440
Speaker 5: First of all, community is really important in rural America.

1318
00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:06,520
Speaker 5: That was like the number one thing. Your community is

1319
00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:10,720
Speaker 5: almost more important than yeah, other things. And the second

1320
00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:13,040
Speaker 5: is making and doing, which was really really interesting in

1321
00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:15,440
Speaker 5: the research. So we may be making and putting on

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00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:17,320
Speaker 5: you know, putting on a show or whatever, like putting

1323
00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:20,880
Speaker 5: on our wigs and you know, getting a barn together decoratively.

1324
00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:24,200
Speaker 5: But it's funny because Martha story bringing back to her

1325
00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:26,200
Speaker 5: one of the reasons she appeals is making and doing.

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00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:29,560
Speaker 5: There's like a lot of time spent with sort of

1327
00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:32,720
Speaker 5: crafts and taking care of your property and taking care

1328
00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:35,520
Speaker 5: of your car and sort of mechanical.

1329
00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:36,360
Speaker 6: Uses of your time.

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Speaker 5: Literally, But what we have in common with that is

1331
00:58:38,920 --> 00:58:41,640
Speaker 5: we also make things. That's what we do. And so

1332
00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:44,480
Speaker 5: somehow finding the way to communicate the two of those things,

1333
00:58:44,520 --> 00:58:48,439
Speaker 5: so it's not just arrogant, fucking didactic entertainment, and it's

1334
00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:51,240
Speaker 5: not just like you know, mud races. Like there's got

1335
00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:53,840
Speaker 5: to be somewhere where those two things do overlaps lately,

1336
00:58:54,040 --> 00:58:56,040
Speaker 5: and it doesn't have to be as divisive as it.

1337
00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:58,360
Speaker 2: Is exactly, you know, exactly, because a lot of the

1338
00:58:58,400 --> 00:59:03,320
Speaker 2: messaging might have been left like be more like us, yes, exactly.

1339
00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:06,240
Speaker 2: There's there's a level of disdain that's implied, yes, completely,

1340
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:10,480
Speaker 2: and there's there's something about like redistributing respectors.

1341
00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:13,080
Speaker 5: It's really hard so hard. It's hard when you don't

1342
00:59:13,120 --> 00:59:16,440
Speaker 5: feel respected. You know, it's understandable as a gay person

1343
00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:23,040
Speaker 5: in America or as an ethnic woman in the eighties. Yeah,

1344
00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:28,000
Speaker 5: I have a flat iron my head.

1345
00:59:30,080 --> 00:59:30,480
Speaker 2: See me.

1346
00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:37,000
Speaker 3: Yes, But I mean so, I know, I know, I know.

1347
00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:39,040
Speaker 5: Let's talk about Disney.

1348
00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:44,640
Speaker 2: Yes, Disney our listeners. I hate Disney users.

1349
00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:48,280
Speaker 5: I'm so well, we're gonna hopefully go December, I'll tell you,

1350
00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:50,280
Speaker 5: But no, because I there's this one thing that I

1351
00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:52,840
Speaker 5: have done over the years that is so incredible.

1352
00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:54,440
Speaker 2: Which I'm we all type that off. What is it?

1353
00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:56,280
Speaker 2: Just that candle light?

1354
00:59:56,280 --> 00:59:57,080
Speaker 5: Professional? Have you heard?

1355
00:59:57,440 --> 00:59:57,960
Speaker 2: You've done it?

1356
00:59:58,000 --> 00:59:58,600
Speaker 5: I've done it.

1357
00:59:58,640 --> 01:00:02,320
Speaker 2: Wow, that's what I'm dreams. I want to you. Absolutely,

1358
01:00:02,680 --> 01:00:03,440
Speaker 2: you have to do it.

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Speaker 5: First of all, like I said, not a religious person,

1360
01:00:05,480 --> 01:00:08,040
Speaker 5: but boy, does Jesus flow through me when I do that,

1361
01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:10,480
Speaker 5: Because there are three hundred and fifty voices behind you.

1362
01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:14,000
Speaker 5: Your spine shakes from the base of the singers. There

1363
01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:17,560
Speaker 5: are fifty six pieces in that orchestra. With those Disney arrangements,

1364
01:00:17,640 --> 01:00:22,680
Speaker 5: there were eight heralding trumpets. It is so spectacularly magnificent.

1365
01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:24,720
Speaker 5: Can you read the story of Christmas? And it's very

1366
01:00:24,720 --> 01:00:25,479
Speaker 5: hard not to cry.

1367
01:00:25,680 --> 01:00:27,600
Speaker 2: Yes, that's beautiful. This is it like like there's no

1368
01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:29,960
Speaker 2: church anymore, but like what needs to be replaced is

1369
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:32,040
Speaker 2: like meaning and that's oh my god.

1370
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Speaker 5: And also a big part of the meaning is the

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Speaker 5: fact that my family gets the guide the whole time

1372
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Speaker 5: that I'm there.

1373
01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:39,720
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's huge, very meaningful. Shout out to r

1374
01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:41,520
Speaker 3: VIP guy, Matt, Will.

1375
01:00:43,120 --> 01:00:47,840
Speaker 7: Sam, do you have I've met I have Sam too, Sam, Sam,

1376
01:00:47,880 --> 01:00:52,520
Speaker 7: Astina and Mariah car Right, but then Matt is Matt

1377
01:00:52,680 --> 01:00:55,720
Speaker 7: was like spit out of like a Disney sort of

1378
01:00:55,760 --> 01:00:57,240
Speaker 7: three D printer.

1379
01:00:57,160 --> 01:00:58,880
Speaker 2: Right, so we're talking about the same person.

1380
01:00:58,920 --> 01:00:59,960
Speaker 6: He's the most lovely guy.

1381
01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:01,680
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, this guy is great.

1382
01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:05,240
Speaker 5: He's delightful. Love Do you take in a show when

1383
01:01:05,280 --> 01:01:07,280
Speaker 5: you go to Disney? I like to take in a

1384
01:01:07,360 --> 01:01:08,560
Speaker 5: show just to cool my jets.

1385
01:01:08,560 --> 01:01:11,040
Speaker 2: What do you mean taking a show? Like taking a show? Yeah,

1386
01:01:11,040 --> 01:01:13,360
Speaker 2: I'll sit down and enjoy that year's Beauty and the

1387
01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:15,720
Speaker 2: Beast or whatever. What did we see?

1388
01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:18,080
Speaker 3: Did we go into the Frozen show? I think we

1389
01:01:18,120 --> 01:01:20,400
Speaker 3: stayed till let it go and left?

1390
01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:22,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah that's fair.

1391
01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:27,880
Speaker 5: I mean Aladdin, nice little forty five minutes.

1392
01:01:28,800 --> 01:01:29,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, fantastic.

1393
01:01:29,680 --> 01:01:32,000
Speaker 5: I mean I enjoyed taking in a show for a

1394
01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:33,960
Speaker 5: break because it's often air conditioned.

1395
01:01:34,080 --> 01:01:35,040
Speaker 2: Of course that's.

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01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:37,080
Speaker 5: The thing, and you can settle in. Yeah, and what's

1397
01:01:37,080 --> 01:01:37,960
Speaker 5: your favorite place to wait?

1398
01:01:38,040 --> 01:01:38,240
Speaker 1: You like?

1399
01:01:38,280 --> 01:01:41,800
Speaker 5: Do you like well, disney World or Disneyland?

1400
01:01:42,040 --> 01:01:44,760
Speaker 2: I love, I love World, I love Tiffins in Kingdom

1401
01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:46,240
Speaker 2: Animal Kingdom. I haven't been.

1402
01:01:47,640 --> 01:01:50,919
Speaker 5: It's good, No, so Jeventina turned us onto the Cars One.

1403
01:01:51,000 --> 01:01:52,880
Speaker 6: Do you ever go to the not Cars World? Do

1404
01:01:52,920 --> 01:01:53,840
Speaker 6: you ever go to the.

1405
01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:55,600
Speaker 2: Old timey in Frontier Land?

1406
01:01:55,880 --> 01:01:56,800
Speaker 6: Feet sci fi movie?

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01:01:58,000 --> 01:01:58,400
Speaker 2: Yes?

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01:01:58,640 --> 01:02:01,040
Speaker 5: Also really good for again, I'll lot of our thoughts

1409
01:02:01,120 --> 01:02:04,280
Speaker 5: are around the kids. Yeah, my kids are old now,

1410
01:02:04,360 --> 01:02:06,920
Speaker 5: but early on these taking a show and sitting in

1411
01:02:06,920 --> 01:02:09,520
Speaker 5: the drive and those are like, it's hot, everybody's over stimulated.

1412
01:02:09,560 --> 01:02:11,360
Speaker 2: Let's sit in the dark for a few minutes. Yes,

1413
01:02:11,440 --> 01:02:12,000
Speaker 2: that's important.

1414
01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:14,680
Speaker 3: Where we went for lunch this last time was the

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01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:15,720
Speaker 3: Space Restaurant.

1416
01:02:16,080 --> 01:02:24,160
Speaker 2: Remember that. Oh that's Mission Space. But it's it's like

1417
01:02:24,280 --> 01:02:28,800
Speaker 2: the pretend you're I think it was booked. When we

1418
01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:30,520
Speaker 2: were there, we tried to get in. It's kind of goofy,

1419
01:02:30,600 --> 01:02:31,640
Speaker 2: but it was good. But it's fine.

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01:02:31,640 --> 01:02:33,280
Speaker 6: I do o g Blue Bayou.

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01:02:35,200 --> 01:02:37,320
Speaker 2: So you can have a cocktail. Goddamn it. I mean,

1422
01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:37,640
Speaker 2: why not.

1423
01:02:37,880 --> 01:02:39,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, you might blow in the dark.

1424
01:02:39,120 --> 01:02:42,200
Speaker 2: It might just might just might be too sweet.

1425
01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:44,680
Speaker 3: That's the thing is, like, now, whatever I go drink there,

1426
01:02:44,800 --> 01:02:46,040
Speaker 3: I always drink beer because.

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01:02:45,800 --> 01:02:49,320
Speaker 5: Everything is so now and now you're in your sugar

1428
01:02:49,360 --> 01:02:54,040
Speaker 5: watching time, yes, but also times sweet cocktails like it's

1429
01:02:54,120 --> 01:02:54,840
Speaker 5: really tough.

1430
01:02:55,000 --> 01:02:57,400
Speaker 2: Like you can get wine over in California Adventure. You

1431
01:02:57,440 --> 01:02:57,880
Speaker 2: sure can't.

1432
01:02:58,480 --> 01:03:00,440
Speaker 6: So your listeners are tired of hearing it anyway.

1433
01:03:00,480 --> 01:03:02,520
Speaker 5: Well, so we have it's game in my family. It's

1434
01:03:02,520 --> 01:03:05,160
Speaker 5: called nervous breakdown job. It's what you're going to do

1435
01:03:05,200 --> 01:03:08,840
Speaker 5: after your nervous breakdown. Well, mine is going to be

1436
01:03:08,920 --> 01:03:10,360
Speaker 5: and it's kind of a cheap because it is a

1437
01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:12,360
Speaker 5: job at Disney. But we have different versions of it.

1438
01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:13,760
Speaker 5: My main one is that I'm going to work at

1439
01:03:13,760 --> 01:03:15,880
Speaker 5: Trader Joe's on the Fearless Flyer, where I write up

1440
01:03:15,880 --> 01:03:17,440
Speaker 5: reviews of new Trader Dress products.

1441
01:03:17,520 --> 01:03:18,000
Speaker 2: That's good.

1442
01:03:18,200 --> 01:03:20,520
Speaker 5: But if I have a Disney nervous breakdown and I

1443
01:03:20,600 --> 01:03:22,680
Speaker 5: end up in Disney, I'm going to try to audition

1444
01:03:22,760 --> 01:03:24,800
Speaker 5: to be the Wicked step Mother Meet and greet lady.

1445
01:03:25,120 --> 01:03:29,000
Speaker 5: Oh my god, they're so funny. Those ones are so funny.

1446
01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:31,160
Speaker 5: Just yell at people yell at children. It's not unlike

1447
01:03:31,160 --> 01:03:36,040
Speaker 5: my character actually in a mattress. My husband's nervous breakdown

1448
01:03:36,080 --> 01:03:37,800
Speaker 5: job at Walt Disney World.

1449
01:03:38,080 --> 01:03:41,120
Speaker 2: Is he wants to manage.

1450
01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:46,040
Speaker 5: He's sorry everybody, He's going to manage the tiny barge

1451
01:03:46,040 --> 01:03:46,960
Speaker 5: trip from the.

1452
01:03:46,960 --> 01:03:47,880
Speaker 2: Yacht your kid to.

1453
01:03:49,880 --> 01:03:49,920
Speaker 5: You.

1454
01:03:50,160 --> 01:03:51,160
Speaker 2: They get on in there.

1455
01:03:50,920 --> 01:03:54,560
Speaker 6: Like, oh, that's per.

1456
01:03:57,360 --> 01:04:01,600
Speaker 2: All aboard. Yeah, you just go right back. He's gonna

1457
01:04:01,600 --> 01:04:03,880
Speaker 2: do that all day and find it soothing. You know what.

1458
01:04:04,080 --> 01:04:05,960
Speaker 3: The culture that made me say culture for me in

1459
01:04:06,080 --> 01:04:08,960
Speaker 3: many regards was this is not Disney, but it was

1460
01:04:09,080 --> 01:04:12,880
Speaker 3: Universal Studios, The Jaws ride, the boat, the Skipper. I

1461
01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:16,080
Speaker 3: actually am off book on it, and I'm not kidding you.

1462
01:04:16,240 --> 01:04:17,920
Speaker 3: I did a show years ago at U S be

1463
01:04:18,080 --> 01:04:20,840
Speaker 3: called called a one man show called You Will Get Wet,

1464
01:04:21,880 --> 01:04:25,200
Speaker 3: which actually doesn't really qualify as where my character's biggest

1465
01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:29,760
Speaker 3: dream was to be that Jaws and Bowen Yang played

1466
01:04:29,760 --> 01:04:30,400
Speaker 3: the Shark.

1467
01:04:31,040 --> 01:04:33,760
Speaker 2: And I see where this is going your future career.

1468
01:04:34,840 --> 01:04:38,920
Speaker 3: I staged the ride and there was I did in

1469
01:04:39,000 --> 01:04:42,560
Speaker 3: the basement at Chelsea. Actually is there is a YouTube

1470
01:04:42,600 --> 01:04:44,160
Speaker 3: video of it. I don't know if it's taking it down.

1471
01:04:44,320 --> 01:04:46,960
Speaker 2: That sounds fantastic. It was good it was good. Shannon

1472
01:04:47,000 --> 01:04:49,440
Speaker 2: O'Neill did not get me a ride, but it was

1473
01:04:49,440 --> 01:04:55,080
Speaker 2: an excellent show. It was almost honestly, one of these days.

1474
01:04:55,120 --> 01:04:56,600
Speaker 2: Is it a great title? You will get wet.

1475
01:04:56,680 --> 01:04:58,520
Speaker 5: Yes, it's really good.

1476
01:04:58,560 --> 01:04:59,480
Speaker 2: I'm gonna use it for something else.

1477
01:04:59,480 --> 01:05:01,040
Speaker 5: Listen, there's gonn a lot of Disney times in the

1478
01:05:01,080 --> 01:05:03,000
Speaker 5: coming years for a lot of America.

1479
01:05:03,400 --> 01:05:05,560
Speaker 2: They say, drop their prices because it's very extensive.

1480
01:05:05,680 --> 01:05:07,920
Speaker 3: Can I say this is a thing though, It's like,

1481
01:05:08,080 --> 01:05:10,640
Speaker 3: after the result came in, I was like, you know,

1482
01:05:11,520 --> 01:05:14,280
Speaker 3: it's the separation of wealth because families can't even go

1483
01:05:14,280 --> 01:05:15,520
Speaker 3: to Disney.

1484
01:05:15,680 --> 01:05:17,720
Speaker 2: You're absolutely right, Like that's what it is.

1485
01:05:17,720 --> 01:05:17,800
Speaker 5: Is.

1486
01:05:17,800 --> 01:05:20,480
Speaker 3: It's like we talk about the separation of wealth, we

1487
01:05:20,480 --> 01:05:23,280
Speaker 3: talk about wealth inequality at Naustium, and then it's like

1488
01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:25,880
Speaker 3: the Democratic Party decides to put someone up who doesn't

1489
01:05:25,880 --> 01:05:28,000
Speaker 3: make that a forefront issue at least enough for people,

1490
01:05:28,040 --> 01:05:30,840
Speaker 3: and we're surprised. I mean, the separation of wealth is

1491
01:05:30,920 --> 01:05:33,520
Speaker 3: the number one thing that we have to fix. Money

1492
01:05:33,560 --> 01:05:34,040
Speaker 3: has to come.

1493
01:05:33,960 --> 01:05:36,880
Speaker 2: Out of politics and needs to be some redistribution, like

1494
01:05:36,960 --> 01:05:39,160
Speaker 2: I mean a billion dollars, it's crazy.

1495
01:05:39,240 --> 01:05:42,000
Speaker 3: And meanwhile, this like whatever I'm just saying, it's like

1496
01:05:42,240 --> 01:05:44,920
Speaker 3: you talk about these things, and then it is sad

1497
01:05:45,160 --> 01:05:47,160
Speaker 3: because families can't experience it anymore.

1498
01:05:47,280 --> 01:05:51,880
Speaker 5: That's ridiculous. Yeah, then why don't we start a fund.

1499
01:05:52,240 --> 01:05:54,760
Speaker 5: Maybe I was going to start a community college fund.

1500
01:05:54,800 --> 01:05:57,160
Speaker 2: But you know what, let's start a fun Disney fun

1501
01:05:57,920 --> 01:05:58,520
Speaker 2: for everybody.

1502
01:05:58,760 --> 01:05:59,680
Speaker 5: It's for the community.

1503
01:06:00,120 --> 01:06:03,600
Speaker 2: It's just not everybody gets a guide. Everybody gets everybody.

1504
01:06:03,960 --> 01:06:06,160
Speaker 2: But honestly, I should be a guide. I really should

1505
01:06:06,160 --> 01:06:07,800
Speaker 2: be a good nervous break down job for you. No,

1506
01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:08,280
Speaker 2: get your.

1507
01:06:08,200 --> 01:06:11,280
Speaker 4: Steps, perfect steps.

1508
01:06:10,560 --> 01:06:12,720
Speaker 2: My nervous breakdown job. So when you get a guide,

1509
01:06:12,880 --> 01:06:15,240
Speaker 2: when you arrive at each park, yes, there's someone waiting

1510
01:06:15,240 --> 01:06:19,000
Speaker 2: there with a wicker train full of like Laura bars,

1511
01:06:20,120 --> 01:06:22,640
Speaker 2: looking at bars, and I want to hold that tray.

1512
01:06:22,880 --> 01:06:24,720
Speaker 5: You know what people don't they really want to do

1513
01:06:24,800 --> 01:06:26,960
Speaker 5: because when they okay, this is cutting deep. But when

1514
01:06:26,960 --> 01:06:29,320
Speaker 5: they give you the guide for Candlelight professional, they give

1515
01:06:29,320 --> 01:06:35,400
Speaker 5: you VIP housing. So that housing is unbelievable. Okay, So

1516
01:06:35,520 --> 01:06:38,160
Speaker 5: we stay in like yacht club, or we stayed in

1517
01:06:38,160 --> 01:06:41,160
Speaker 5: like the Polynesian in the apartment where the Beatles broke up,

1518
01:06:41,560 --> 01:06:46,040
Speaker 5: where there's.

1519
01:06:43,920 --> 01:06:45,520
Speaker 2: Broke up with Disney World. I know, go figure. Well,

1520
01:06:45,560 --> 01:06:48,160
Speaker 2: John Lennon was there with his family. Anybody was like dang,

1521
01:06:48,360 --> 01:06:48,600
Speaker 2: I love.

1522
01:06:48,640 --> 01:06:51,120
Speaker 5: It was like I'll fuck it, I'm out and uh

1523
01:06:51,400 --> 01:06:53,800
Speaker 5: but in the nice like fancy, you know, like there's

1524
01:06:53,800 --> 01:06:56,680
Speaker 5: club levels or hotels, so they have and my family

1525
01:06:56,680 --> 01:06:58,480
Speaker 5: always gets so excited about this because you'll have like

1526
01:06:58,480 --> 01:07:01,240
Speaker 5: a little breakfast spread, not a big one, because it's

1527
01:07:01,280 --> 01:07:03,360
Speaker 5: like the club level. Like you you're still expected to

1528
01:07:03,400 --> 01:07:05,760
Speaker 5: go to breakfast, but there's some like you know, a

1529
01:07:05,800 --> 01:07:08,040
Speaker 5: little lic croissants and whatever, and they come out throughout

1530
01:07:08,080 --> 01:07:09,880
Speaker 5: the day and it always it tells you the times

1531
01:07:09,880 --> 01:07:12,120
Speaker 5: of the day. And every time my husband's like, oh,

1532
01:07:12,160 --> 01:07:16,400
Speaker 5: the desserts and cordials out yet excited were like, let's

1533
01:07:16,480 --> 01:07:18,040
Speaker 5: check out the desserts and cordials.

1534
01:07:18,080 --> 01:07:19,240
Speaker 2: Like we're always gonning.

1535
01:07:19,280 --> 01:07:21,720
Speaker 3: You were doing a service, a candlelight, professional service, and

1536
01:07:21,760 --> 01:07:22,560
Speaker 3: you deserved all those.

1537
01:07:24,000 --> 01:07:27,080
Speaker 2: I want to Christmas season, damn it. I want to

1538
01:07:27,080 --> 01:07:28,720
Speaker 2: eat fresh fruit with y'all in the morning.

1539
01:07:28,880 --> 01:07:31,600
Speaker 5: You bet you can come. We always have extra beds.

1540
01:07:31,760 --> 01:07:34,120
Speaker 6: I haven't done it for a long time, I.

1541
01:07:36,680 --> 01:07:37,080
Speaker 5: Believe me.

1542
01:07:37,160 --> 01:07:40,280
Speaker 2: Every year next to next week we went.

1543
01:07:40,200 --> 01:07:42,760
Speaker 5: During COVID and we all discovered we had COVID the

1544
01:07:42,880 --> 01:07:45,840
Speaker 5: last morning because obviously we got it because it was

1545
01:07:45,840 --> 01:07:48,400
Speaker 5: Florida's nobody is masked. It was like that weird little

1546
01:07:48,400 --> 01:07:52,120
Speaker 5: omicron break, Okay, And as we landed at Orlando, I

1547
01:07:52,280 --> 01:07:54,920
Speaker 5: received three calls from the Department of Health and my son.

1548
01:07:56,280 --> 01:07:58,640
Speaker 6: Was like, have you been.

1549
01:07:58,560 --> 01:07:59,840
Speaker 2: Around a lot of Florida people?

1550
01:08:00,360 --> 01:08:03,360
Speaker 5: And then literally everybody in Florida no mask nearry a

1551
01:08:03,400 --> 01:08:06,160
Speaker 5: mask to be found. And then the last morning and

1552
01:08:06,200 --> 01:08:08,840
Speaker 5: my mom, my old mom had shared a room.

1553
01:08:08,880 --> 01:08:10,480
Speaker 6: I mean, granted it was a big Disney.

1554
01:08:10,200 --> 01:08:12,080
Speaker 5: Room, so it was like between two Queen's size beds

1555
01:08:12,080 --> 01:08:14,280
Speaker 5: and he was in one of Literally my mom from

1556
01:08:14,280 --> 01:08:16,080
Speaker 5: the other room, She's like, what is two lines? Met?

1557
01:08:16,320 --> 01:08:21,040
Speaker 2: I was like, can you imagine they're like all these

1558
01:08:21,040 --> 01:08:26,240
Speaker 2: public health officials taking sewage water from the oral land Sam.

1559
01:08:26,280 --> 01:08:29,160
Speaker 6: I was like, sam, my man, were a mask.

1560
01:08:30,000 --> 01:08:32,639
Speaker 2: We're sorry, we're down bad.

1561
01:08:32,800 --> 01:08:35,240
Speaker 5: But also it was I and I'm not a good person.

1562
01:08:35,560 --> 01:08:37,880
Speaker 5: I got on a plane, I double masked. Everybody was like,

1563
01:08:37,920 --> 01:08:39,320
Speaker 5: no one even on the plane had a mask.

1564
01:08:39,840 --> 01:08:40,840
Speaker 2: I was like, we're going home.

1565
01:08:40,960 --> 01:08:43,759
Speaker 5: I'm not going to spend a week at Disney quarantine

1566
01:08:43,840 --> 01:08:44,400
Speaker 5: with a child.

1567
01:08:45,960 --> 01:08:47,240
Speaker 6: We double masked and we got home.

1568
01:08:47,360 --> 01:08:49,840
Speaker 3: We also we were also on vacation. Then we got

1569
01:08:49,880 --> 01:08:52,800
Speaker 3: we got COVID, Well you had just had COVID, yes,

1570
01:08:52,920 --> 01:08:55,000
Speaker 3: I we thought we were in the clear. And then

1571
01:08:55,040 --> 01:08:59,479
Speaker 3: I got COVID normally in Mexico City. Oh yeah, lonely.

1572
01:08:59,840 --> 01:09:02,880
Speaker 3: And it was crazy because I was a hotel, well

1573
01:09:02,920 --> 01:09:06,280
Speaker 3: in a hotel in Mexico City, and I was starting

1574
01:09:06,280 --> 01:09:08,320
Speaker 3: to feel a little weird, Like two hours.

1575
01:09:08,000 --> 01:09:09,240
Speaker 2: Before we had to get on the plane.

1576
01:09:09,360 --> 01:09:11,880
Speaker 3: Was this early or I took a test and it

1577
01:09:11,960 --> 01:09:13,960
Speaker 3: was like and it said I was negative, But I

1578
01:09:14,000 --> 01:09:16,240
Speaker 3: was starting to feel word so I like triple masted

1579
01:09:16,240 --> 01:09:18,559
Speaker 3: it and I got on the plane and I went

1580
01:09:18,680 --> 01:09:19,160
Speaker 3: and but.

1581
01:09:19,040 --> 01:09:20,400
Speaker 2: You weren't sure what you weren't sure if it was

1582
01:09:20,439 --> 01:09:23,040
Speaker 2: like like a water that you drank or something.

1583
01:09:22,840 --> 01:09:25,280
Speaker 3: It was it could have been anything. And so I

1584
01:09:25,320 --> 01:09:27,640
Speaker 3: was like, I'm going to test and it said I

1585
01:09:27,680 --> 01:09:31,360
Speaker 3: was negative, masked up, got on the plane because then

1586
01:09:31,439 --> 01:09:32,240
Speaker 3: what was I going to do?

1587
01:09:32,400 --> 01:09:34,240
Speaker 2: Like be I would have had to be there for I.

1588
01:09:34,280 --> 01:09:36,040
Speaker 5: Think a lot of people did that and that is

1589
01:09:36,080 --> 01:09:41,000
Speaker 5: why we had an epidemic. Anyway, You're right, ever heard

1590
01:09:41,000 --> 01:09:41,880
Speaker 5: of patient zero?

1591
01:09:42,479 --> 01:09:50,479
Speaker 2: That little girl was me keeping it light? Special?

1592
01:09:50,560 --> 01:09:56,439
Speaker 1: How were youst election special title?

1593
01:09:57,000 --> 01:09:58,719
Speaker 5: How does it feel to be on the post election special,

1594
01:09:58,800 --> 01:10:01,400
Speaker 5: really painful, but happy.

1595
01:10:01,640 --> 01:10:12,840
Speaker 3: It's harmful. This is I don't think so honey. This

1596
01:10:12,880 --> 01:10:16,200
Speaker 3: is our segment where we take one minute rant and

1597
01:10:16,360 --> 01:10:19,960
Speaker 3: or ail like something in culture that we don't love. U.

1598
01:10:20,120 --> 01:10:22,000
Speaker 2: Do you have something, you'll go first? I do have something.

1599
01:10:22,080 --> 01:10:26,160
Speaker 2: I do have something. Okay, this is Matt Rogers. We

1600
01:10:26,200 --> 01:10:29,560
Speaker 2: all have something very good. This is Matt Rogers. I

1601
01:10:29,560 --> 01:10:30,840
Speaker 2: don't think so many time starts now.

1602
01:10:30,960 --> 01:10:34,840
Speaker 3: I don't think so, honey. So the Beatles song, the

1603
01:10:34,880 --> 01:10:37,240
Speaker 3: new Song Now and Then is nominated for Record of

1604
01:10:37,280 --> 01:10:39,400
Speaker 3: the Year, and the way that they got John Lennon's

1605
01:10:39,439 --> 01:10:42,080
Speaker 3: voice on it is by AI ing his voice out,

1606
01:10:42,160 --> 01:10:44,400
Speaker 3: Like they had to bring his voice out, so they used.

1607
01:10:44,240 --> 01:10:46,559
Speaker 2: AI on it to make it a real vocal. I

1608
01:10:46,560 --> 01:10:47,519
Speaker 2: don't think so, honey.

1609
01:10:47,680 --> 01:10:52,080
Speaker 3: I don't think so honey. The AI like recreation of

1610
01:10:52,120 --> 01:10:54,519
Speaker 3: people that have been long dead. He's been dead for

1611
01:10:54,520 --> 01:10:56,439
Speaker 3: forty plus years.

1612
01:10:56,920 --> 01:10:57,799
Speaker 2: I don't think so honey.

1613
01:10:57,800 --> 01:11:02,839
Speaker 3: The Whitney Houston holographic, I don't thinkgraphic. These people actually

1614
01:11:02,840 --> 01:11:05,920
Speaker 3: can't consent to releasing music. And this is not just

1615
01:11:06,000 --> 01:11:08,280
Speaker 3: John Lennon, This is Olsho, George Harrison, and I get that.

1616
01:11:08,320 --> 01:11:09,920
Speaker 3: His wife says, you know George would have been on

1617
01:11:09,960 --> 01:11:10,519
Speaker 3: board for this.

1618
01:11:11,040 --> 01:11:12,400
Speaker 2: I don't know what Yoko.

1619
01:11:12,240 --> 01:11:14,760
Speaker 3: Is saying, but I don't think so, honey, if I

1620
01:11:14,800 --> 01:11:19,680
Speaker 3: ever died, No AI lost coachstas I'm telling you, I

1621
01:11:19,720 --> 01:11:22,439
Speaker 3: don't care what how much money Bowen Yang needs because

1622
01:11:22,439 --> 01:11:25,879
Speaker 3: he's talking about pivoting to holding a wicker tray at Disney.

1623
01:11:26,280 --> 01:11:29,160
Speaker 3: I don't care how sound his career goes. No AI

1624
01:11:29,800 --> 01:11:33,240
Speaker 3: lost coach after I Am Dead. No AI beatles song now,

1625
01:11:33,320 --> 01:11:35,400
Speaker 3: especially not nominy for Rucker of the Year at the Grammys.

1626
01:11:35,400 --> 01:11:36,880
Speaker 3: Where was Ariana Grande.

1627
01:11:36,640 --> 01:11:39,120
Speaker 2: And that's where was already and that's one minute, No way,

1628
01:11:39,200 --> 01:11:41,519
Speaker 2: especially if it's gonna like suck up all the power

1629
01:11:41,560 --> 01:11:44,160
Speaker 2: that could be used to, you know, power a small town.

1630
01:11:44,640 --> 01:11:47,040
Speaker 3: That's another thing is like how harmful AI was for

1631
01:11:47,080 --> 01:11:51,080
Speaker 3: the I'm really glad to cool down all.

1632
01:11:51,080 --> 01:11:54,680
Speaker 6: The whatever I never got hold at that or AI voicing.

1633
01:11:54,880 --> 01:11:57,280
Speaker 2: As part of it. Now now it's all kind of

1634
01:11:57,280 --> 01:12:00,880
Speaker 2: blending together. It's like anything generative is AI. But for

1635
01:12:01,000 --> 01:12:04,000
Speaker 2: anything AI, it has to be derivative by default too,

1636
01:12:04,240 --> 01:12:07,400
Speaker 2: So it's like, I don't know, weirdly I'm like about

1637
01:12:07,400 --> 01:12:09,640
Speaker 2: it because I'm like, it will always be derivative. By

1638
01:12:09,640 --> 01:12:12,040
Speaker 2: definition correct, that's correct, and so I'm like.

1639
01:12:12,320 --> 01:12:14,479
Speaker 5: Right, as a comedian, that's such a like a weird

1640
01:12:14,520 --> 01:12:19,440
Speaker 5: sort of almost constitutional stance. You know, what's the word constitutional?

1641
01:12:19,479 --> 01:12:22,200
Speaker 5: I don't know, I mad is it constitutional? Like you

1642
01:12:22,200 --> 01:12:23,280
Speaker 5: have to take a big ship after.

1643
01:12:25,760 --> 01:12:26,200
Speaker 2: Constitution?

1644
01:12:26,439 --> 01:12:28,760
Speaker 6: People say, like, let's take a constitutional they mean like.

1645
01:12:28,960 --> 01:12:36,559
Speaker 2: The gentle take ships together and communal constitutional.

1646
01:12:37,280 --> 01:12:38,960
Speaker 5: Comedians don't like people who copy them.

1647
01:12:38,960 --> 01:12:41,160
Speaker 2: There you go, there I go. There's like, no, there's

1648
01:12:42,200 --> 01:12:44,320
Speaker 2: it's so trunchent that we've done that. There's no worst thing.

1649
01:12:44,880 --> 01:12:46,840
Speaker 2: I don't know the AI of it all, like know

1650
01:12:46,880 --> 01:12:47,120
Speaker 2: what that?

1651
01:12:47,200 --> 01:12:51,599
Speaker 3: Because now I get really wary of people that are like, yeah,

1652
01:12:51,640 --> 01:12:52,719
Speaker 3: but about AI.

1653
01:12:52,920 --> 01:12:54,400
Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't think so.

1654
01:12:57,640 --> 01:12:59,479
Speaker 6: I mean maybe, okay, oops, I just did it.

1655
01:12:59,760 --> 01:13:04,080
Speaker 5: But medical research or like quick research, isn't that just

1656
01:13:04,080 --> 01:13:07,360
Speaker 5: like a computer. I'm just like, yeah, I don't want

1657
01:13:07,360 --> 01:13:10,000
Speaker 5: to I don't want an AI operation, but I wouldn't

1658
01:13:10,040 --> 01:13:13,800
Speaker 5: mind somebody saying this cancer cure is this effective.

1659
01:13:13,479 --> 01:13:17,160
Speaker 2: Based on your your vitals? Like absolutely, I'm just thinking

1660
01:13:17,240 --> 01:13:19,320
Speaker 2: like the everyday uses of it. People are still trying

1661
01:13:19,320 --> 01:13:21,599
Speaker 2: to figure out even apples kind of like you can

1662
01:13:21,640 --> 01:13:23,920
Speaker 2: write your emails with it. But I know how to

1663
01:13:24,080 --> 01:13:26,720
Speaker 2: I know totally. We need to stigmatize this idea, like

1664
01:13:26,760 --> 01:13:29,200
Speaker 2: if you need AI to write an imail for you,

1665
01:13:29,560 --> 01:13:30,240
Speaker 2: that fucked.

1666
01:13:30,439 --> 01:13:33,040
Speaker 5: I mean, by the way, Yeah, whatever happened to like

1667
01:13:33,080 --> 01:13:34,240
Speaker 5: plagiarism being bad?

1668
01:13:34,439 --> 01:13:36,280
Speaker 2: Like no, you can't, truly you can't.

1669
01:13:37,040 --> 01:13:38,719
Speaker 5: Why I was get in trouble for reading cliff notes

1670
01:13:38,720 --> 01:13:40,240
Speaker 5: back in the day, it's the same idea.

1671
01:13:40,400 --> 01:13:41,639
Speaker 2: I'm just not afread the book.

1672
01:13:42,080 --> 01:13:44,479
Speaker 3: I'm not a fan of anything that, like if we

1673
01:13:44,560 --> 01:13:49,120
Speaker 3: participate in it to an extent, makes us lazier and dummer.

1674
01:13:49,560 --> 01:13:51,320
Speaker 2: Correct, you know what I'm saying. It's by the way,

1675
01:13:51,360 --> 01:13:52,720
Speaker 2: and that's like the Google maps of it all. I

1676
01:13:52,720 --> 01:13:54,960
Speaker 2: don't know if you ever do this, but you turn

1677
01:13:54,960 --> 01:13:55,559
Speaker 2: it off every.

1678
01:13:55,400 --> 01:13:58,400
Speaker 5: Blue moon and try to go somewhere, can't It's well Also,

1679
01:13:58,479 --> 01:14:01,080
Speaker 5: it's a really important piece of your the navigational piece

1680
01:14:01,080 --> 01:14:04,400
Speaker 5: of your brain affects other things you do in life.

1681
01:14:04,479 --> 01:14:06,599
Speaker 5: So if you don't want to just turn into a

1682
01:14:06,600 --> 01:14:11,240
Speaker 5: total you know, yeah, like in La every blue moon,

1683
01:14:11,280 --> 01:14:13,800
Speaker 5: I will just not. It's so instinctive to just plug

1684
01:14:13,880 --> 01:14:15,720
Speaker 5: it in if I'm driving, Like right, I'm not how

1685
01:14:15,760 --> 01:14:16,200
Speaker 5: to drive there.

1686
01:14:16,680 --> 01:14:17,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I haven't even thought about it.

1687
01:14:17,920 --> 01:14:22,880
Speaker 3: That like just allowing myself, allowing myself to have enough

1688
01:14:22,960 --> 01:14:23,720
Speaker 3: respect for my.

1689
01:14:23,800 --> 01:14:27,280
Speaker 2: Navigation exactly, because otherwise you do feel like a soul

1690
01:14:27,360 --> 01:14:30,599
Speaker 2: adrift in space. And it's like you're just being told

1691
01:14:30,840 --> 01:14:31,719
Speaker 2: to go easy.

1692
01:14:31,720 --> 01:14:33,320
Speaker 5: It's like a bad like Blade Runner movie, where we

1693
01:14:33,360 --> 01:14:35,040
Speaker 5: could all just be programmed to drive to the same

1694
01:14:35,080 --> 01:14:37,439
Speaker 5: place to be bombed. Yeah, and.

1695
01:14:40,760 --> 01:14:48,360
Speaker 2: Don't spring in the clown. I'm asked to leave that

1696
01:14:50,920 --> 01:14:52,040
Speaker 2: you finally went.

1697
01:14:54,760 --> 01:14:57,439
Speaker 6: Bring blade run up and Google maps and a bomb.

1698
01:15:00,200 --> 01:15:02,479
Speaker 2: My god is Bowen Yang? Don't you have anything you

1699
01:15:02,479 --> 01:15:04,639
Speaker 2: want to do? You want to rail? Yeah?

1700
01:15:04,640 --> 01:15:07,599
Speaker 3: Okay, this is Bowen Yang's I don't think so, honey.

1701
01:15:07,640 --> 01:15:08,439
Speaker 3: His time starts now.

1702
01:15:08,479 --> 01:15:10,640
Speaker 2: I don't think so, honey. Putting little stickers over the

1703
01:15:10,680 --> 01:15:13,080
Speaker 2: hole in coffee cups that you're supposed to drink out

1704
01:15:13,120 --> 01:15:15,080
Speaker 2: of because I got to take the sticker off, and

1705
01:15:15,120 --> 01:15:18,920
Speaker 2: guess what. Now I'm drinking sticker juice instead of coffee,

1706
01:15:19,000 --> 01:15:22,080
Speaker 2: and now my lips are sticking together, and I go, no,

1707
01:15:22,160 --> 01:15:25,439
Speaker 2: I just want to enjoy my iced black coffee. That's it.

1708
01:15:25,479 --> 01:15:28,200
Speaker 2: I'm not asking for much. I just want iced coffee

1709
01:15:28,200 --> 01:15:31,880
Speaker 2: in a cup. And I understand that it's to prevent spillage.

1710
01:15:31,960 --> 01:15:33,960
Speaker 2: And now you understand that you're taping over the bag

1711
01:15:34,080 --> 01:15:36,519
Speaker 2: so that there's no tampering and it's all security theater.

1712
01:15:36,720 --> 01:15:40,400
Speaker 2: But sometimes I just without all this literally all this

1713
01:15:40,560 --> 01:15:43,360
Speaker 2: red tape or this white circle of tape over my

1714
01:15:43,520 --> 01:15:46,200
Speaker 2: drink hole. I just want an unencumbered drink hoole so

1715
01:15:46,240 --> 01:15:49,360
Speaker 2: I can sip sip, sip, suck, suck, suck, guzzle, guzzle,

1716
01:15:49,360 --> 01:15:52,640
Speaker 2: guzzle the caffeine into my system because I need it

1717
01:15:52,680 --> 01:15:56,160
Speaker 2: to get through this damn day, in this damn year,

1718
01:15:56,439 --> 01:15:59,919
Speaker 2: of this damn world. Get the sticker in the adhesive

1719
01:16:00,160 --> 01:16:04,439
Speaker 2: off my coffee, otherwise I'll be drinking moxy, for God's

1720
01:16:04,439 --> 01:16:08,799
Speaker 2: sakes when I just want a gorgeous cup of dunkin Donuts.

1721
01:16:10,080 --> 01:16:12,759
Speaker 2: That's one minute, good timing. That was great.

1722
01:16:13,240 --> 01:16:15,600
Speaker 3: I will also say you said so many words and

1723
01:16:15,680 --> 01:16:17,479
Speaker 3: didn't even touch on what I think is the most

1724
01:16:17,520 --> 01:16:20,320
Speaker 3: annoying part, which is when you have to peel THEI

1725
01:16:20,920 --> 01:16:24,879
Speaker 3: you have stickery fingering on this part of your fingers,

1726
01:16:25,360 --> 01:16:25,840
Speaker 3: very bad.

1727
01:16:26,400 --> 01:16:31,000
Speaker 5: See gravity, This is higher why we don't need it.

1728
01:16:31,160 --> 01:16:33,200
Speaker 6: Don't much of the top.

1729
01:16:33,240 --> 01:16:36,599
Speaker 2: It's only spilling. Let me paint, yeah, which is a.

1730
01:16:36,479 --> 01:16:37,320
Speaker 6: Peeve of mine.

1731
01:16:37,439 --> 01:16:40,120
Speaker 5: It's only spilling if the fucker filled it too hot,

1732
01:16:40,400 --> 01:16:43,559
Speaker 5: right right, so that is coming out the side off

1733
01:16:43,560 --> 01:16:46,200
Speaker 5: the top. I blame that little culturehead.

1734
01:16:46,400 --> 01:16:49,880
Speaker 3: Lidle culture is in a state of disarray, like no

1735
01:16:49,920 --> 01:16:52,120
Speaker 3: one can figure out what lid to put on anything like.

1736
01:16:52,160 --> 01:16:54,639
Speaker 3: And sometimes it's like you go to a certain coffee

1737
01:16:54,720 --> 01:16:57,400
Speaker 3: place because you know they're not going crazy where.

1738
01:16:57,520 --> 01:17:01,080
Speaker 2: Live, they'll have changed, like I don't know you when

1739
01:17:01,080 --> 01:17:01,559
Speaker 2: I take it back.

1740
01:17:01,640 --> 01:17:07,160
Speaker 5: I love a barista, and I have the thoughts.

1741
01:17:05,240 --> 01:17:07,120
Speaker 6: And I really love I love coffee.

1742
01:17:07,400 --> 01:17:10,519
Speaker 5: I love coffee so much that I've actually had this thought,

1743
01:17:10,840 --> 01:17:13,240
Speaker 5: I'm not proud if I went to prison, I'd be

1744
01:17:13,280 --> 01:17:15,840
Speaker 5: super sad because the coffee situation would be so bad.

1745
01:17:15,840 --> 01:17:18,240
Speaker 2: Wait wait, wait, wait wait, what is the coffee situation?

1746
01:17:18,280 --> 01:17:20,160
Speaker 2: I'm sure it's not existent. It's not great.

1747
01:17:20,360 --> 01:17:22,640
Speaker 5: So I love I will never I didn't give it

1748
01:17:22,680 --> 01:17:24,080
Speaker 5: up when I was pregnant. I didn't give it up.

1749
01:17:24,120 --> 01:17:27,160
Speaker 2: I will never, ever ever give up coffee. Should we

1750
01:17:27,200 --> 01:17:29,840
Speaker 2: start a fund for prison coffee? Yes? What would it

1751
01:17:29,880 --> 01:17:30,160
Speaker 2: be called?

1752
01:17:30,160 --> 01:17:31,080
Speaker 5: Doesn't it sound terrible?

1753
01:17:31,560 --> 01:17:34,719
Speaker 2: It doesn't sound good? No? What would Joe? Behind bars?

1754
01:17:35,000 --> 01:17:38,240
Speaker 2: Behind bars? Bruis behind bars? Why is my brain going?

1755
01:17:38,280 --> 01:17:40,920
Speaker 2: And we did it Joe, we really did it. We

1756
01:17:40,960 --> 01:17:42,760
Speaker 2: didn't do it. We didn't do it Joe at all.

1757
01:17:43,320 --> 01:17:49,040
Speaker 2: We didn't Joe did over. It is over over? Well,

1758
01:17:49,280 --> 01:17:54,519
Speaker 2: what's because Joe? Now? Are you ready? Because the moment? Okay, okay,

1759
01:17:54,760 --> 01:17:56,080
Speaker 2: this is on a gas Stars. I don't think so

1760
01:17:56,120 --> 01:17:56,799
Speaker 2: any her time.

1761
01:17:56,680 --> 01:17:59,240
Speaker 5: Starts this is what what are we starting to?

1762
01:18:00,760 --> 01:18:04,519
Speaker 2: Time starts next, Oh, Kelly's gonna pass. Time starts next

1763
01:18:05,439 --> 01:18:08,680
Speaker 2: commercial break. This is on a goth Stars. I don't

1764
01:18:08,680 --> 01:18:10,000
Speaker 2: think so many her time starts now.

1765
01:18:10,200 --> 01:18:12,519
Speaker 5: Okay, so my I don't think so. Honey is about

1766
01:18:12,640 --> 01:18:18,240
Speaker 5: TikToker POV video instagrams. Nobody understands that it has to

1767
01:18:18,280 --> 01:18:20,639
Speaker 5: be an actual point of view that is something new.

1768
01:18:20,920 --> 01:18:22,920
Speaker 5: So here's what it has to be a new take.

1769
01:18:23,120 --> 01:18:25,599
Speaker 5: It has to be observational. It has to be something

1770
01:18:25,600 --> 01:18:28,639
Speaker 5: that I haven't thought of, that's a witty use of humor.

1771
01:18:28,960 --> 01:18:32,200
Speaker 5: For example, I just saw one that was POV you

1772
01:18:32,320 --> 01:18:35,160
Speaker 5: get to the airport, find your gate pee, and get

1773
01:18:35,160 --> 01:18:35,599
Speaker 5: a snack.

1774
01:18:35,880 --> 01:18:36,879
Speaker 2: That's not a POV.

1775
01:18:37,320 --> 01:18:39,479
Speaker 5: That is just going to the airport and doing what

1776
01:18:39,520 --> 01:18:41,479
Speaker 5: people do when you go to the airport. There's no

1777
01:18:41,880 --> 01:18:45,559
Speaker 5: pithy observation therein that's not Oh, my god, my dad

1778
01:18:45,640 --> 01:18:46,360
Speaker 5: got a dog.

1779
01:18:46,640 --> 01:18:48,400
Speaker 2: He didn't want it, and now he's carrying it around

1780
01:18:48,400 --> 01:18:49,040
Speaker 2: at a baby born.

1781
01:18:49,160 --> 01:18:49,519
Speaker 6: I get it.

1782
01:18:49,520 --> 01:18:50,200
Speaker 2: That's a POV.

1783
01:18:50,360 --> 01:18:53,360
Speaker 5: That's funny. What's not a POV is POV? I took

1784
01:18:53,400 --> 01:18:54,280
Speaker 5: a shower before I.

1785
01:18:54,240 --> 01:18:56,400
Speaker 2: Went to work. What's wrong with people?

1786
01:18:56,680 --> 01:18:59,320
Speaker 5: You have to have some kind of a take. And

1787
01:18:59,400 --> 01:19:01,360
Speaker 5: if you're not doing that, you know what, put your

1788
01:19:01,400 --> 01:19:05,120
Speaker 5: phone down and go to the airport and get.

1789
01:19:05,000 --> 01:19:07,720
Speaker 2: A magazine and piss and get on your plane. And

1790
01:19:07,760 --> 01:19:10,360
Speaker 2: if you open up Google Maps, you're dead. And that's

1791
01:19:10,400 --> 01:19:12,080
Speaker 2: one minute. You know.

1792
01:19:12,479 --> 01:19:14,599
Speaker 3: I hate to break it to you, but I think

1793
01:19:14,600 --> 01:19:17,360
Speaker 3: that they know this and willfully aren't doing it because.

1794
01:19:17,160 --> 01:19:19,639
Speaker 2: I'll be shocked when I work your phone.

1795
01:19:19,680 --> 01:19:22,280
Speaker 5: Then just live your life for four seconds, just being

1796
01:19:22,479 --> 01:19:23,040
Speaker 5: a human.

1797
01:19:23,200 --> 01:19:26,120
Speaker 3: I guess the thing is, though, they're more interested in

1798
01:19:26,200 --> 01:19:27,960
Speaker 3: virality than humanness.

1799
01:19:27,960 --> 01:19:30,599
Speaker 5: Who is going to like or comment on pov?

1800
01:19:30,840 --> 01:19:32,519
Speaker 2: You find your gate and get a sandwich.

1801
01:19:32,560 --> 01:19:34,760
Speaker 3: So many people. I'm telling you, it's like when I

1802
01:19:35,240 --> 01:19:37,479
Speaker 3: have worked with social media people. If I had to

1803
01:19:37,479 --> 01:19:39,840
Speaker 3: do like a TikTok or something for my album, I'll

1804
01:19:39,840 --> 01:19:43,040
Speaker 3: be shocked. Sometimes when you realize what's trending, it's like, hey,

1805
01:19:43,080 --> 01:19:45,920
Speaker 3: so you have to walk from here to here, and this.

1806
01:19:45,880 --> 01:19:48,040
Speaker 5: Song is you got on the elevator.

1807
01:19:48,200 --> 01:19:52,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, but literally it's like noo nailing a letter.

1808
01:19:52,720 --> 01:19:56,120
Speaker 2: The appetite is for every day of mundanity.

1809
01:19:56,200 --> 01:19:58,639
Speaker 5: Well that's fine at least if you're gonna be pithy

1810
01:19:58,680 --> 01:20:02,439
Speaker 5: about it, like I don't mind mind something that's like I.

1811
01:20:02,479 --> 01:20:05,559
Speaker 2: Don't know something new or observational like that.

1812
01:20:05,640 --> 01:20:08,400
Speaker 5: It's it's that's the Seinfeldian moment of it all, like

1813
01:20:08,760 --> 01:20:09,840
Speaker 5: like oh my god, you know.

1814
01:20:10,200 --> 01:20:12,960
Speaker 2: But the POV thing is even so stupid because they

1815
01:20:12,960 --> 01:20:17,080
Speaker 2: don't understand what povy stands for. No from the first

1816
01:20:17,080 --> 01:20:19,960
Speaker 2: person point of view at all. It's just like PUV,

1817
01:20:20,160 --> 01:20:21,840
Speaker 2: I'm going to the airport and then they're in the frame.

1818
01:20:22,920 --> 01:20:24,839
Speaker 2: I mean that that's what these kids are doing too.

1819
01:20:25,280 --> 01:20:28,280
Speaker 4: Right right, and I I don't at the airport and

1820
01:20:28,439 --> 01:20:34,519
Speaker 4: it's them POV, POV me with my friend, POV, I'm

1821
01:20:34,520 --> 01:20:35,280
Speaker 4: hanging out with my friend.

1822
01:20:35,600 --> 01:20:38,080
Speaker 2: Friend isn't there again? I'm just like, I don't mind.

1823
01:20:38,160 --> 01:20:42,479
Speaker 5: I really you have to develop some semblance an observer

1824
01:20:42,560 --> 01:20:45,080
Speaker 5: if this is supposed to be funny or engaging in

1825
01:20:45,120 --> 01:20:47,200
Speaker 5: any way, like this.

1826
01:20:47,320 --> 01:20:52,679
Speaker 2: Is my almost like I'm gonna say, like boom er take,

1827
01:20:52,760 --> 01:20:55,720
Speaker 2: which is like, oh, language is breaking down, like no one,

1828
01:20:56,240 --> 01:20:58,360
Speaker 2: no one knows how to communicate with each other and

1829
01:20:58,400 --> 01:20:59,680
Speaker 2: therefore and here we are.

1830
01:20:59,800 --> 01:21:02,120
Speaker 5: I'm mean, but that's also like secondary all all of

1831
01:21:02,160 --> 01:21:05,920
Speaker 5: the applification I mean of life. Yeah, exactly, like you're

1832
01:21:06,680 --> 01:21:09,439
Speaker 5: early on tried to like address phone usage with our

1833
01:21:09,479 --> 01:21:12,559
Speaker 5: kids or whatever, and everybody was the only way they

1834
01:21:12,560 --> 01:21:16,320
Speaker 5: communicate is to take and picture of themselves on snap

1835
01:21:16,360 --> 01:21:18,400
Speaker 5: and send it to one another now it or otherwise.

1836
01:21:18,400 --> 01:21:20,920
Speaker 5: But it's just even like if there's courtship ritual and

1837
01:21:20,960 --> 01:21:24,439
Speaker 5: my sixteen year old, you're right, absolutely right, my sixteen

1838
01:21:24,520 --> 01:21:24,960
Speaker 5: year old.

1839
01:21:24,880 --> 01:21:25,960
Speaker 2: Just like you'll see him do that and you're like,

1840
01:21:25,960 --> 01:21:26,400
Speaker 2: who what are you doing?

1841
01:21:26,479 --> 01:21:28,000
Speaker 5: Say, oh, I just snap, I have something my friends,

1842
01:21:28,160 --> 01:21:30,519
Speaker 5: Like there's no there's no ham at a restaurant with

1843
01:21:30,520 --> 01:21:33,599
Speaker 5: my folks, or like there's no even texting is one

1844
01:21:34,439 --> 01:21:36,960
Speaker 5: iteration to boring and f loaded for them.

1845
01:21:37,120 --> 01:21:40,599
Speaker 2: It's this, This has infiltrated being at dinner with your

1846
01:21:40,800 --> 01:21:43,320
Speaker 2: with your family, like nothing is correct.

1847
01:21:43,960 --> 01:21:46,080
Speaker 6: But also this is why we are where we are.

1848
01:21:46,080 --> 01:21:47,080
Speaker 2: We are sheep totally.

1849
01:21:47,160 --> 01:21:50,320
Speaker 3: Did you see that Australia wants to do a ban

1850
01:21:50,479 --> 01:21:53,440
Speaker 3: on social media until the kids are sixteen.

1851
01:21:53,960 --> 01:21:55,880
Speaker 5: Well, I think it's actually well what this boring is

1852
01:21:55,880 --> 01:21:58,320
Speaker 5: talking about to our audience, But I mean, I actually

1853
01:21:58,400 --> 01:21:59,280
Speaker 5: think it's coming.

1854
01:21:59,400 --> 01:22:00,240
Speaker 6: I do.

1855
01:21:59,760 --> 01:22:02,280
Speaker 5: I do believe the tide is turning because that is

1856
01:22:02,280 --> 01:22:05,720
Speaker 5: actually a Purple State issue. People across the board are

1857
01:22:05,840 --> 01:22:10,559
Speaker 5: understanding the attention spans. Aren't you know, just screaming all now,

1858
01:22:10,600 --> 01:22:12,879
Speaker 5: what is a third election that we're just screaming at Facebook?

1859
01:22:13,000 --> 01:22:15,679
Speaker 5: Like that's all we're doing, so, you know, into Instagram

1860
01:22:15,800 --> 01:22:18,800
Speaker 5: or none of us are actually engaging or having conversations

1861
01:22:18,800 --> 01:22:21,240
Speaker 5: that are face to face, are human to human and

1862
01:22:21,320 --> 01:22:22,519
Speaker 5: it's not going to get any better.

1863
01:22:22,439 --> 01:22:25,320
Speaker 3: Or with anyone that would challenge an opinion that you

1864
01:22:25,400 --> 01:22:28,400
Speaker 3: may have. I mean that's I watched AOC's Live, Like

1865
01:22:28,439 --> 01:22:30,240
Speaker 3: the day or two after the election is.

1866
01:22:30,160 --> 01:22:34,639
Speaker 5: The chandelier day, crashing chandelier, the market.

1867
01:22:34,439 --> 01:22:37,880
Speaker 3: Again, the big pull, she said. She was like, sectarianism

1868
01:22:37,960 --> 01:22:41,120
Speaker 3: has to stop. Like that's why I'm so kind of

1869
01:22:41,120 --> 01:22:44,439
Speaker 3: blown away by people being like, unfollow this person, if

1870
01:22:44,479 --> 01:22:47,200
Speaker 3: you follow me on your I'm like, I understand where

1871
01:22:47,240 --> 01:22:49,759
Speaker 3: this comes from. But if you can't see the forest

1872
01:22:49,800 --> 01:22:52,559
Speaker 3: for the trees, that this is the problem. The fact

1873
01:22:52,600 --> 01:22:55,519
Speaker 3: that we were so shocked that it went that way.

1874
01:22:55,600 --> 01:22:58,559
Speaker 3: If you were shocked like that is because we are

1875
01:22:58,680 --> 01:23:01,760
Speaker 3: siloed off of us from one another. And if we

1876
01:23:01,880 --> 01:23:04,439
Speaker 3: want to be a country, which I think is a question,

1877
01:23:04,560 --> 01:23:07,040
Speaker 3: it seems like if we want to be a country,

1878
01:23:07,320 --> 01:23:08,679
Speaker 3: we cannot silo off.

1879
01:23:08,800 --> 01:23:12,240
Speaker 5: We're in like an algorithmic echo chamber, all of us,

1880
01:23:12,360 --> 01:23:14,519
Speaker 5: you know, except her to pop out and troll people.

1881
01:23:14,680 --> 01:23:18,400
Speaker 5: That's literally it, right, not me, No, never, you aren't

1882
01:23:18,439 --> 01:23:19,320
Speaker 5: told or you don't troll.

1883
01:23:19,400 --> 01:23:21,800
Speaker 2: I'm not in an echo chamber. Oh really? Yeah? He

1884
01:23:22,160 --> 01:23:27,559
Speaker 2: has incredible outside honey, Okay, that's not indoors that I love.

1885
01:23:29,400 --> 01:23:31,960
Speaker 5: And you you power down for forty eight hours every

1886
01:23:32,080 --> 01:23:33,719
Speaker 5: every week, right, just for your mental health.

1887
01:23:33,800 --> 01:23:39,320
Speaker 2: I'm looking at maps. He reaches across the school.

1888
01:23:43,120 --> 01:23:45,839
Speaker 5: I know, I know, but I mean even those little everybody,

1889
01:23:46,040 --> 01:23:46,639
Speaker 5: we're all addicts.

1890
01:23:46,680 --> 01:23:49,639
Speaker 2: World thoughts. Something on the Martha Stewart doc. Oh my god,

1891
01:23:49,680 --> 01:23:50,560
Speaker 2: I loved it.

1892
01:23:50,120 --> 01:23:52,639
Speaker 6: I love actually I love her.

1893
01:23:53,160 --> 01:23:55,200
Speaker 2: I think be great on the show.

1894
01:23:55,240 --> 01:23:58,559
Speaker 5: She would be great on this show. She, especially in

1895
01:23:58,600 --> 01:24:05,320
Speaker 5: her sixth chapter, is extraordinarily enjoying all the things she's

1896
01:24:05,360 --> 01:24:07,639
Speaker 5: been through, and she's letting herself soften. I mean, I've

1897
01:24:07,640 --> 01:24:12,080
Speaker 5: known her now, yeahsh my impersonation was thirty years ago

1898
01:24:12,640 --> 01:24:14,040
Speaker 5: or twenty eight or whatever.

1899
01:24:14,080 --> 01:24:15,719
Speaker 6: And she always been a great.

1900
01:24:15,520 --> 01:24:18,719
Speaker 2: Sport and all that, Jimmy Carter, but she's been.

1901
01:24:18,680 --> 01:24:21,759
Speaker 5: Jimmy Carter even though she's not like a terrifically funny person.

1902
01:24:21,840 --> 01:24:25,240
Speaker 5: But she's very easy, she understood, a good business person.

1903
01:24:25,800 --> 01:24:27,840
Speaker 5: But mostly I have to say, this is my fifth chapter.

1904
01:24:28,120 --> 01:24:29,240
Speaker 5: Take on her eighth chapter.

1905
01:24:29,680 --> 01:24:32,040
Speaker 2: Sixth chapter? Is that my third chapter take on her

1906
01:24:32,040 --> 01:24:32,960
Speaker 2: fifth chapter? Right?

1907
01:24:34,479 --> 01:24:38,599
Speaker 5: Is that she really is like I don't know, there's

1908
01:24:38,600 --> 01:24:40,280
Speaker 5: something to be said for this, like old people wisdom,

1909
01:24:40,800 --> 01:24:43,000
Speaker 5: like you get your heart broken a lot in a life,

1910
01:24:43,080 --> 01:24:46,760
Speaker 5: and she kind of buckles down. I love that whole

1911
01:24:46,800 --> 01:24:48,280
Speaker 5: thing that she says about, like I don't want to

1912
01:24:48,280 --> 01:24:50,760
Speaker 5: deal with feelings all the time, Like I just I

1913
01:24:50,920 --> 01:24:53,160
Speaker 5: like guys that do stuff. I want to go places,

1914
01:24:53,200 --> 01:24:55,519
Speaker 5: I want to take in the world. Her boyfriend charles

1915
01:24:55,520 --> 01:24:57,320
Speaker 5: that she had for a while, she's just a doer,

1916
01:24:57,400 --> 01:25:00,240
Speaker 5: like we would do stuff, And I get that there's

1917
01:25:00,280 --> 01:25:03,840
Speaker 5: so many I do. Of course, I validate feelings, and

1918
01:25:03,880 --> 01:25:05,639
Speaker 5: I of course I want but there is a point

1919
01:25:05,640 --> 01:25:07,400
Speaker 5: at which we have to get up and put our

1920
01:25:07,400 --> 01:25:10,559
Speaker 5: shoes on and not pov we're at the airport, but

1921
01:25:10,680 --> 01:25:13,840
Speaker 5: rather just go get the sandwich NP and like have

1922
01:25:13,960 --> 01:25:17,320
Speaker 5: plans and do things and water the garden and make

1923
01:25:17,320 --> 01:25:19,320
Speaker 5: a party and invite your friends over. And I don't know,

1924
01:25:19,360 --> 01:25:22,759
Speaker 5: there's just something very granted she lives deeply within privilege,

1925
01:25:22,760 --> 01:25:25,400
Speaker 5: but she I love that. She's just that she doesn't

1926
01:25:25,400 --> 01:25:27,519
Speaker 5: sleep at all. That's a true thing about it. I

1927
01:25:27,560 --> 01:25:30,600
Speaker 5: know her assistant, that's really true. She's never All her

1928
01:25:30,680 --> 01:25:34,000
Speaker 5: businesses were born of insomnia. That was early on. And

1929
01:25:34,040 --> 01:25:36,080
Speaker 5: the fact that she was doing crafts with those ladies

1930
01:25:36,080 --> 01:25:39,160
Speaker 5: in the prison and like growing working on the garden,

1931
01:25:39,280 --> 01:25:40,799
Speaker 5: and like she just is a doer.

1932
01:25:40,960 --> 01:25:44,080
Speaker 2: And there's something deeply inspirational to me about that. That

1933
01:25:44,120 --> 01:25:47,200
Speaker 2: garden thing is what kind of cracked something open for me,

1934
01:25:47,280 --> 01:25:49,080
Speaker 2: where she was like, if you want to be married

1935
01:25:49,080 --> 01:25:50,920
Speaker 2: for a year, do you want to be happy for year?

1936
01:25:50,960 --> 01:25:52,040
Speaker 2: Get married. If you want to be happy for a

1937
01:25:52,080 --> 01:25:53,720
Speaker 2: decade a dog, get a dog. You want to be

1938
01:25:53,720 --> 01:25:55,559
Speaker 2: happy for a lifetime, get a garden, plant, guard plant,

1939
01:25:55,600 --> 01:25:58,080
Speaker 2: a garden. And I'm like, oh, that's it. Yeah, there

1940
01:25:58,160 --> 01:25:59,920
Speaker 2: any kind of garden, any size. You just have to

1941
01:26:00,080 --> 01:26:03,439
Speaker 2: do something, yeah, exactly, literally, Yeah, mold the earth with your.

1942
01:26:03,320 --> 01:26:06,040
Speaker 5: Hands, and she's doing that every day in different ways.

1943
01:26:06,080 --> 01:26:08,799
Speaker 5: I mean, and she's endlessly creative from a business standpoint.

1944
01:26:08,840 --> 01:26:12,600
Speaker 5: But also let's just say, oh, g feminist because she

1945
01:26:13,040 --> 01:26:17,639
Speaker 5: turned domestication on its ears and became a billionaire. Yeah,

1946
01:26:17,720 --> 01:26:22,120
Speaker 5: she took she somehow understood Purple State. Early on, people

1947
01:26:22,120 --> 01:26:25,160
Speaker 5: were very shitty, including me on SNL about her selling

1948
01:26:25,200 --> 01:26:27,799
Speaker 5: that brand to Kmart, and she was like, why wouldn't

1949
01:26:27,800 --> 01:26:29,360
Speaker 5: people at kmart want nice things?

1950
01:26:29,680 --> 01:26:32,479
Speaker 2: And it's she just she would say that I like Letterman, Yeah,

1951
01:26:32,520 --> 01:26:34,800
Speaker 2: it's yeah, makes total sense. I love that.

1952
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Speaker 5: I love that she you know again, I mean it's insane,

1953
01:26:37,120 --> 01:26:39,559
Speaker 5: like when you look at like, whatever, let's have cornish

1954
01:26:39,560 --> 01:26:42,439
Speaker 5: hens for one hundred and that catering company, it was insane.

1955
01:26:42,760 --> 01:26:45,720
Speaker 2: It was totally insane. I mean like, you know, you're

1956
01:26:45,760 --> 01:26:47,680
Speaker 2: just looking at her stuff like what that's impossible.

1957
01:26:48,120 --> 01:26:49,960
Speaker 6: She was just making it happen. And then she was like,

1958
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Speaker 6: this is a business.

1959
01:26:50,640 --> 01:26:51,320
Speaker 2: This is a business.

1960
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Speaker 5: And she's been very open minded about lots and types

1961
01:26:54,479 --> 01:26:57,200
Speaker 5: of all kinds of people across our you know, culture.

1962
01:26:57,520 --> 01:26:58,599
Speaker 5: I think she's great.

1963
01:26:58,760 --> 01:27:01,360
Speaker 2: I didn't realize that Andy Steel, her husband was was

1964
01:27:01,360 --> 01:27:03,719
Speaker 2: a cheating was so like that but then that story

1965
01:27:03,760 --> 01:27:07,840
Speaker 2: about her in the cathedral. I know, so beautiful, so beautiful,

1966
01:27:08,000 --> 01:27:09,720
Speaker 2: but I was so random. She's like I got so

1967
01:27:09,720 --> 01:27:11,400
Speaker 2: overwhelmed by being in a cathedral that I made out

1968
01:27:11,400 --> 01:27:14,599
Speaker 2: with an Italian story. That's such a gay guy thing.

1969
01:27:15,880 --> 01:27:16,519
Speaker 2: It really was.

1970
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Speaker 6: It was deeply relatable.

1971
01:27:18,840 --> 01:27:19,799
Speaker 5: It wasn't cheating.

1972
01:27:19,880 --> 01:27:24,400
Speaker 2: I was like, is it you can't judge yourself what

1973
01:27:24,479 --> 01:27:26,880
Speaker 2: everybody's got in that space? Everybody's God.

1974
01:27:27,040 --> 01:27:30,680
Speaker 5: And that's what she really is. She's like an instrument.

1975
01:27:30,200 --> 01:27:32,720
Speaker 2: Of beauty, Like she loves beautiful.

1976
01:27:32,280 --> 01:27:35,040
Speaker 5: Things and she wants everyone to experience. I mean, and

1977
01:27:35,080 --> 01:27:36,639
Speaker 5: they are like I don't know, like there's a big

1978
01:27:36,680 --> 01:27:39,200
Speaker 5: part of me. It's like it's so cheesy, but like

1979
01:27:39,280 --> 01:27:41,320
Speaker 5: Paris is my favorite city and like I've gone and

1980
01:27:41,360 --> 01:27:44,160
Speaker 5: it's like you have a You're like I just can't

1981
01:27:44,200 --> 01:27:47,479
Speaker 5: stand how every single thing here's perfect. I'm so happy,

1982
01:27:47,560 --> 01:27:50,000
Speaker 5: Like it's your you vibrate with beauty.

1983
01:27:50,160 --> 01:27:51,840
Speaker 2: And it reminds me of the Will and Harper thing

1984
01:27:51,880 --> 01:27:55,360
Speaker 2: where at the end, like he gets Harper those earrings

1985
01:27:55,360 --> 01:27:57,479
Speaker 2: like it's okay, nice, it's okay to like nice nice.

1986
01:27:57,479 --> 01:28:00,600
Speaker 2: That was beautiful, okat like lovely things and I'm like

1987
01:28:00,760 --> 01:28:02,680
Speaker 2: and it doesn't have to be the most expensive, Like

1988
01:28:02,720 --> 01:28:05,840
Speaker 2: that's what's so cool. Garden there you go plant a garden,

1989
01:28:05,840 --> 01:28:07,920
Speaker 2: a planet, garden of flower, a vegetable of fruit, a

1990
01:28:08,000 --> 01:28:09,040
Speaker 2: lovely thing that you made.

1991
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Speaker 5: I know, and she was so cool when I was

1992
01:28:10,800 --> 01:28:13,479
Speaker 5: on Drew, she was so like, I mean, we quote

1993
01:28:13,520 --> 01:28:15,479
Speaker 5: unquote surprised her, which I was always like, you again,

1994
01:28:16,479 --> 01:28:18,400
Speaker 5: just a nightmare because you know, if not a person

1995
01:28:18,439 --> 01:28:19,280
Speaker 5: who loves a surprise.

1996
01:28:19,360 --> 01:28:20,599
Speaker 2: And she like, you know I.

1997
01:28:22,080 --> 01:28:24,360
Speaker 6: And I'm like sailing in dressed as her.

1998
01:28:24,240 --> 01:28:28,120
Speaker 2: And she was so sweet. She's just killing it.

1999
01:28:28,520 --> 01:28:31,400
Speaker 5: She kept like grabbing my hand and she was, you know,

2000
01:28:31,479 --> 01:28:35,280
Speaker 5: ruining it by talking through the fauna. So much liked me,

2001
01:28:36,840 --> 01:28:38,880
Speaker 5: but but it was still like so charming, and she

2002
01:28:38,960 --> 01:28:41,760
Speaker 5: hugged me after and her assistant was like, it's so

2003
01:28:41,880 --> 01:28:42,519
Speaker 5: great to see you.

2004
01:28:42,520 --> 01:28:44,320
Speaker 6: We should do more together. It was just very she

2005
01:28:44,520 --> 01:28:44,920
Speaker 6: gets it.

2006
01:28:44,920 --> 01:28:48,400
Speaker 5: She's always gotten it totally. We were mean on Saturday

2007
01:28:48,479 --> 01:28:52,719
Speaker 5: night and she always got it. Actually everybody on SNL,

2008
01:28:52,960 --> 01:28:56,720
Speaker 5: Celine Dion, same thing. So graceful about it, and I,

2009
01:28:56,960 --> 01:28:58,439
Speaker 5: you know, well partially I think she thought I had

2010
01:28:58,479 --> 01:29:01,360
Speaker 5: a bad voice, which helped. But because she said that

2011
01:29:01,400 --> 01:29:05,040
Speaker 5: to me, she was like youoice is so horrible to hear,

2012
01:29:08,240 --> 01:29:10,320
Speaker 5: which I was like, this is a language barrier, saying

2013
01:29:10,360 --> 01:29:13,760
Speaker 5: I'm gonna choose to believe this is horrible to your

2014
01:29:13,840 --> 01:29:15,360
Speaker 5: voice is so horrible to here.

2015
01:29:15,800 --> 01:29:18,479
Speaker 3: Okay, they say you gotta wrap up, which means it's

2016
01:29:18,600 --> 01:29:21,240
Speaker 3: time to say one more time that you can see

2017
01:29:21,280 --> 01:29:23,200
Speaker 3: Once upon a Mattress at the Amenson in LA from

2018
01:29:23,240 --> 01:29:26,320
Speaker 3: December tenth to January fifth, and you should, and also

2019
01:29:26,360 --> 01:29:28,320
Speaker 3: if you can catch it in the last I guess

2020
01:29:28,320 --> 01:29:31,320
Speaker 3: a couple of weeks on Broadway to that it really is.

2021
01:29:31,360 --> 01:29:33,960
Speaker 2: It's joyous, it's fun, Sugar and Booze.

2022
01:29:33,960 --> 01:29:36,559
Speaker 3: You better be streaming it and checking out the shows

2023
01:29:36,640 --> 01:29:39,040
Speaker 3: in the Midwest and in La what day on the.

2024
01:29:39,040 --> 01:29:40,280
Speaker 6: December sixteenth, one night only.

2025
01:29:40,360 --> 01:29:43,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, but mostly just listen to it because it really

2026
01:29:43,320 --> 01:29:45,200
Speaker 5: I did make it to bring people joy. And listen

2027
01:29:45,280 --> 01:29:47,120
Speaker 5: to it while you're wrapping your presence and you're shaking

2028
01:29:47,120 --> 01:29:50,080
Speaker 5: your drinks and you're shaking and you're shaking everything.

2029
01:29:50,439 --> 01:29:53,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, shake and jiggle, shake that ass, shake that ass.

2030
01:29:53,560 --> 01:29:56,120
Speaker 3: Listen to Sugar and Booze. We are so happy you're

2031
01:29:56,120 --> 01:29:57,880
Speaker 3: hearing so much the best.

2032
01:29:57,960 --> 01:30:00,559
Speaker 5: Thank you for having me and my daughter and her Hello, Gaye,

2033
01:30:00,640 --> 01:30:01,200
Speaker 5: say thank you.

2034
01:30:01,320 --> 01:30:02,640
Speaker 2: We say the.

2035
01:30:02,680 --> 01:30:05,439
Speaker 3: Gas and the usbands and everybody out there we want

2036
01:30:05,439 --> 01:30:06,959
Speaker 3: to say hello to you, and we.

2037
01:30:07,120 --> 01:30:13,920
Speaker 2: And every episode with a song, have yourself, very little Christmas.

2038
01:30:14,640 --> 01:30:20,800
Speaker 2: Let your hard right, We'll work. Why didn't why didn't

2039
01:30:20,840 --> 01:30:21,200
Speaker 2: we say?

2040
01:30:22,520 --> 01:30:26,200
Speaker 5: Why did you start so high? Goddamn tennor.

2041
01:30:26,240 --> 01:30:28,200
Speaker 2: This is the second time in a row, third road

2042
01:30:28,200 --> 01:30:30,160
Speaker 2: that someone calls us it me for the key.

2043
01:30:30,400 --> 01:30:32,439
Speaker 6: No, it's a nice it's your song, it's your show.

2044
01:30:33,439 --> 01:30:53,479
Speaker 2: Hell. Last Cultures is the production by Will Ferrell's Big

2045
01:30:53,479 --> 01:30:54,759
Speaker 2: Man The Players in My Heart radio.

2046
01:30:54,560 --> 01:30:57,800
Speaker 3: Podcasts, created and hosted by Matt Rogers and Bowen Ye.

2047
01:30:58,120 --> 01:31:01,280
Speaker 3: Executive produced by Anna Hosny and Hans Sony.

2048
01:31:01,160 --> 01:31:04,479
Speaker 2: Produced by Becker Ramos, edited mixed by Doug BABYMANI Forlord

2049
01:31:04,640 --> 01:31:13,280
Speaker 2: and Our Music is by Henry Kmerski. Hey everybody, it's

2050
01:31:13,320 --> 01:31:14,680
Speaker 2: me Matt Rogers, letting you know.

2051
01:31:14,720 --> 01:31:17,080
Speaker 1: Tickets are on sale now to see me on tour,

2052
01:31:17,520 --> 01:31:20,000
Speaker 1: the Prince of Christmas Tour, that is, I'm doing my

2053
01:31:20,040 --> 01:31:22,400
Speaker 1: whole album Have You Heard of Christmas? Plus a lot

2054
01:31:22,479 --> 01:31:25,040
Speaker 1: more with the whole band all throughout December. Go to

2055
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Speaker 1: www dot Matt Rodgers Official dot com.

2056
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Speaker 2: See me in a City near you,