1 00:00:05,496 --> 00:00:07,696 Speaker 1: Lots to Say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle is 2 00:00:07,736 --> 00:00:10,656 Speaker 1: a production of the NFL and iHeart Podcasts. 3 00:00:12,096 --> 00:00:18,136 Speaker 2: We got lots to say, we got lost, to say. 4 00:00:20,616 --> 00:00:22,175 Speaker 1: We're better here and we. 5 00:00:22,376 --> 00:00:27,936 Speaker 2: Hope you say because we got lost, to say, yeah, we. 6 00:00:27,856 --> 00:00:33,815 Speaker 3: Got lost, to say, now here's Bobby that right now 7 00:00:33,856 --> 00:00:37,536 Speaker 3: you can intro our guests, Oh, our guests, The one 8 00:00:37,535 --> 00:00:41,895 Speaker 3: and the only Clay Matthews. This guy comes from a 9 00:00:42,016 --> 00:00:45,976 Speaker 3: family dynasty of NFL football. It starts with his grandfather, 10 00:00:46,656 --> 00:00:50,095 Speaker 3: Clay Senior, who played in the NFL. His two oldest sons, 11 00:00:50,175 --> 00:00:54,176 Speaker 3: your father, Clay Junior and Bruce, both were first round 12 00:00:54,256 --> 00:00:56,536 Speaker 3: draft picks, played nineteen seasons in the NFL. You have 13 00:00:56,576 --> 00:00:59,015 Speaker 3: three cousins that played in the NFL. You and your 14 00:00:59,016 --> 00:01:02,296 Speaker 3: younger brother, Casey both played in the NFL. You obviously 15 00:01:02,696 --> 00:01:07,616 Speaker 3: have an incredible career, six time pro or NFC Defensive 16 00:01:07,696 --> 00:01:09,776 Speaker 3: Rookie of the Year. Is that correct? 17 00:01:09,856 --> 00:01:12,096 Speaker 2: Defensive Rookie of the Year and NFC Defensive Player of 18 00:01:12,136 --> 00:01:12,456 Speaker 2: the Year. 19 00:01:12,576 --> 00:01:14,456 Speaker 3: Yes, one nd percent. I was just about to say that. 20 00:01:15,336 --> 00:01:20,736 Speaker 3: By the way, no notes bull winning linebacker. You know 21 00:01:21,096 --> 00:01:24,976 Speaker 3: it's he is incredible. He's an incredible person and also 22 00:01:25,016 --> 00:01:27,576 Speaker 3: an incredible player and a friend of mine. Welcome to 23 00:01:27,576 --> 00:01:30,016 Speaker 3: the show, Clay Matthews. We'll catch up for you. Yes. 24 00:01:30,416 --> 00:01:33,336 Speaker 4: So my question is Casle and I were talking and 25 00:01:33,336 --> 00:01:34,696 Speaker 4: he was like, hey, I should hit up Clay and 26 00:01:34,736 --> 00:01:37,096 Speaker 4: I said, be awesome, and he said I see him 27 00:01:37,096 --> 00:01:39,176 Speaker 4: at a school board meeting or something to that effect. 28 00:01:39,736 --> 00:01:42,016 Speaker 4: How how do you guys know each other now? 29 00:01:42,936 --> 00:01:46,296 Speaker 2: Yeah? Well, I mean I think if we want to 30 00:01:46,296 --> 00:01:47,576 Speaker 2: talk about how we know each other now, we got 31 00:01:47,616 --> 00:01:49,696 Speaker 2: to go back to how we first met each other. 32 00:01:50,536 --> 00:01:53,376 Speaker 4: That's college, Rightee, we got we got it. We got 33 00:01:53,376 --> 00:01:54,456 Speaker 4: the trojan helmet out trojan. 34 00:01:55,136 --> 00:01:57,816 Speaker 2: For those who don't know, Matt and I were on 35 00:01:57,856 --> 00:02:00,896 Speaker 2: the same University of Southern California football team. And what's 36 00:02:00,936 --> 00:02:03,296 Speaker 2: great is how our stories and I've got to sing 37 00:02:03,296 --> 00:02:05,656 Speaker 2: Matt's praises and one of the reasons why every main 38 00:02:05,896 --> 00:02:08,696 Speaker 2: friends with Matt until this day, for for many reasons, 39 00:02:08,696 --> 00:02:11,456 Speaker 2: but one of them being the similar trajectory that we 40 00:02:11,496 --> 00:02:14,656 Speaker 2: took in college. In that Matt, I'm sure when you'll 41 00:02:14,696 --> 00:02:16,016 Speaker 2: have to fill me in. It was at one point, 42 00:02:16,056 --> 00:02:18,296 Speaker 2: maybe third string, second string just could never crack. The 43 00:02:18,336 --> 00:02:23,896 Speaker 2: starting lineup was playing behind Heisman Trophy winners in Carson Palmer, 44 00:02:24,216 --> 00:02:27,696 Speaker 2: Matt Lioner, and obviously he goes to the NFL and 45 00:02:27,736 --> 00:02:30,816 Speaker 2: thats tremendous success and couldn't be more proud of him. 46 00:02:30,896 --> 00:02:33,696 Speaker 2: You guys like Ryan Khalil, you know, guys who were 47 00:02:34,056 --> 00:02:35,296 Speaker 2: you know, kind of had to sit on the bench 48 00:02:35,336 --> 00:02:38,536 Speaker 2: and we all went through this thing. But just by chance, 49 00:02:40,336 --> 00:02:43,296 Speaker 2: I grew up in southern California, much like Matt. Matt's 50 00:02:43,336 --> 00:02:44,976 Speaker 2: career took him around. And I don't want to speak 51 00:02:45,016 --> 00:02:47,096 Speaker 2: for you, but obviously he settled out here in Nashville. 52 00:02:47,096 --> 00:02:48,976 Speaker 3: And then you played for a lot of teams, just 53 00:02:49,016 --> 00:02:50,856 Speaker 3: a few, yeah, mark him down. 54 00:02:50,896 --> 00:02:54,416 Speaker 2: He played played more more years than me. So and 55 00:02:54,456 --> 00:02:56,496 Speaker 2: then we were just when I retired, we were still 56 00:02:56,496 --> 00:02:59,136 Speaker 2: in southern California, and we're your typical COVID family. We 57 00:02:59,176 --> 00:03:00,976 Speaker 2: just took a look around and realized that's not where 58 00:03:00,976 --> 00:03:03,536 Speaker 2: we wanted to raise a young family, and we moved 59 00:03:03,536 --> 00:03:06,736 Speaker 2: out here. And my older brother Kyle, who also played 60 00:03:06,776 --> 00:03:09,976 Speaker 2: with Matt at the time at USC, was out here, 61 00:03:10,016 --> 00:03:11,736 Speaker 2: so we want to be closer to family. Just so 62 00:03:11,856 --> 00:03:14,376 Speaker 2: happened Matt was out here and his family we had 63 00:03:14,376 --> 00:03:17,936 Speaker 2: a you know, a relationship from years past, and kids 64 00:03:17,976 --> 00:03:20,016 Speaker 2: ended up going to the same school and the rest 65 00:03:20,096 --> 00:03:20,576 Speaker 2: is history. 66 00:03:21,016 --> 00:03:23,096 Speaker 3: It's pretty It's pretty funny because I remember the first 67 00:03:23,096 --> 00:03:25,256 Speaker 3: time I met you, you weren't even at us he yet. 68 00:03:25,536 --> 00:03:27,016 Speaker 3: Kyle and I had a day off and we came 69 00:03:27,096 --> 00:03:29,296 Speaker 3: out to west Lake and we came out to Westlake 70 00:03:29,336 --> 00:03:31,856 Speaker 3: to your home there, and we're sitting there, We're just 71 00:03:31,976 --> 00:03:34,136 Speaker 3: messing around, and your dad goes, hey, let's go out 72 00:03:34,136 --> 00:03:36,336 Speaker 3: in paintball. And I was like, you want to do what? 73 00:03:36,576 --> 00:03:38,296 Speaker 3: And he's like, let's go out in paintball. So we 74 00:03:38,336 --> 00:03:41,336 Speaker 3: go get these paintball guns and we get all suited up, 75 00:03:41,456 --> 00:03:43,896 Speaker 3: suited and booted, ready to get out there. And they've 76 00:03:43,936 --> 00:03:47,696 Speaker 3: got this large landscape out on the it was a huge, 77 00:03:47,736 --> 00:03:50,576 Speaker 3: massive field, right yeah. And so all of a sudden, 78 00:03:50,616 --> 00:03:53,576 Speaker 3: his dad, Clay Junior, comes out and he's in a 79 00:03:53,616 --> 00:03:54,856 Speaker 3: full wookie suit, like. 80 00:03:54,816 --> 00:03:57,176 Speaker 2: He's gilly suit, and he made him sell his suit. 81 00:03:57,256 --> 00:03:59,536 Speaker 3: He made it himself. And I'm like, oh, he's for 82 00:03:59,656 --> 00:04:03,536 Speaker 3: real now when you're six', five like two forty. Five 83 00:04:04,176 --> 00:04:06,216 Speaker 3: he looks like a tree moving in the, woods, right 84 00:04:06,536 --> 00:04:08,856 Speaker 3: but he is shooting us all. Over so we went 85 00:04:08,896 --> 00:04:12,736 Speaker 3: out and paintballed that whole entire afternoon and then Obviously 86 00:04:12,776 --> 00:04:15,896 Speaker 3: clay came TO usc soon there. After and the amazing 87 00:04:15,936 --> 00:04:19,056 Speaker 3: part about this guy is he comes, in he's a walk. 88 00:04:19,096 --> 00:04:21,695 Speaker 3: On he's what one hundred and ninety pounds soaking. Wet 89 00:04:22,496 --> 00:04:24,935 Speaker 3: one hundred and ninety pounds soaking, wet does not look 90 00:04:25,416 --> 00:04:28,536 Speaker 3: like the man he is. Today and SO i remember 91 00:04:28,976 --> 00:04:31,456 Speaker 3: AFTER i, GRADUATED i came back about two off seasons 92 00:04:31,536 --> 00:04:33,336 Speaker 3: later AND i go into the weight room to get 93 00:04:33,335 --> 00:04:35,815 Speaker 3: a workout, in AND i see this guy and he's 94 00:04:35,856 --> 00:04:40,455 Speaker 3: got this beautiful, hair it's pulled. Back he's like snatching 95 00:04:40,455 --> 00:04:42,255 Speaker 3: two twenty five in a. Month AND i said to 96 00:04:42,296 --> 00:04:45,056 Speaker 3: Our strength And condition, COACH i, Said Coach, carlile who is? 97 00:04:45,096 --> 00:04:48,535 Speaker 3: That he, goes Let's Clay. MATTHEWS i was, like oh my. 98 00:04:48,936 --> 00:04:53,496 Speaker 3: God the guy had completely transformed, himself grown into his 99 00:04:53,536 --> 00:04:56,896 Speaker 3: own own. Body and then at that point his career took. 100 00:04:56,936 --> 00:04:58,975 Speaker 4: Off did you grow where did you? 101 00:04:59,096 --> 00:05:01,496 Speaker 2: Work it was. BOTH i MEAN i was a late. 102 00:05:01,496 --> 00:05:03,855 Speaker 2: Bloomer that's just a nice way of SAYING i went 103 00:05:03,895 --> 00:05:06,976 Speaker 2: through puberty. Late we got to school probably around two. 104 00:05:07,135 --> 00:05:10,655 Speaker 2: Twenty although it was all in my legs and, PHYSICALLY 105 00:05:10,695 --> 00:05:14,736 Speaker 2: i was not mature and not ready to play for 106 00:05:14,815 --> 00:05:16,736 Speaker 2: the best team in the country at that, point team 107 00:05:16,775 --> 00:05:19,296 Speaker 2: that was littered in five star recruits and blue chip. 108 00:05:19,296 --> 00:05:21,656 Speaker 2: Athletes but every YEAR i just kind of stuck with. 109 00:05:21,695 --> 00:05:23,496 Speaker 2: THAT i put on about five pounds AND i just 110 00:05:23,496 --> 00:05:26,496 Speaker 2: got sharper mentally and physically to the point where you, 111 00:05:26,496 --> 00:05:27,976 Speaker 2: KNOW i was there for five years. Too so by 112 00:05:28,736 --> 00:05:32,015 Speaker 2: my third, YEAR i should say my fourth, year started 113 00:05:32,056 --> 00:05:35,736 Speaker 2: getting in games where you, Know i'd playing garbage time 114 00:05:35,815 --> 00:05:38,616 Speaker 2: and sharpening my. Craft and then my last, YEAR i 115 00:05:38,655 --> 00:05:40,496 Speaker 2: know you had asked the, question But i'm just hijacking 116 00:05:40,496 --> 00:05:45,176 Speaker 2: this real. Quick but my last year ever Since griffin 117 00:05:45,215 --> 00:05:47,496 Speaker 2: came in And Pete carroll had said at the time 118 00:05:47,496 --> 00:05:49,496 Speaker 2: he could play in THE nfl right, now SO i 119 00:05:49,575 --> 00:05:52,535 Speaker 2: got no chance at. Playing so they moved. Me they 120 00:05:52,616 --> 00:05:55,096 Speaker 2: KNEW i had, talent And Brian cushing was playing in 121 00:05:55,135 --> 00:05:57,095 Speaker 2: front of me and went on to have an amazing 122 00:05:57,096 --> 00:06:00,176 Speaker 2: career as. Well first round. Pick we put in a bear, 123 00:06:00,296 --> 00:06:03,296 Speaker 2: defense zero two, threes but two stand up outside. Linebackers 124 00:06:03,376 --> 00:06:05,695 Speaker 2: it was me And. Cush we played outside backer AND 125 00:06:05,736 --> 00:06:08,056 Speaker 2: i was rotating in every third, series and fortunately a 126 00:06:08,096 --> 00:06:10,095 Speaker 2: couple of games into the, season they recognized THAT i 127 00:06:10,135 --> 00:06:13,136 Speaker 2: had some ability to rush the passer and be, disruptive 128 00:06:13,135 --> 00:06:15,176 Speaker 2: and that's WHEN i took. Over but to answer your, 129 00:06:15,215 --> 00:06:18,656 Speaker 2: question it was a little bit of both mature and 130 00:06:18,736 --> 00:06:20,176 Speaker 2: late and just kind of sticking with. 131 00:06:20,215 --> 00:06:23,616 Speaker 4: It your whole family played. Football were they all bigger 132 00:06:23,976 --> 00:06:26,695 Speaker 4: at the age when you say you hadn't developed? Yet? 133 00:06:27,215 --> 00:06:32,655 Speaker 2: No actually, No my uncle and father very much were same. 134 00:06:32,695 --> 00:06:35,455 Speaker 2: Trajectory you, know they were just late bloomers and they 135 00:06:35,455 --> 00:06:38,295 Speaker 2: didn't come into their own until college and obviously into THE. 136 00:06:38,335 --> 00:06:40,695 Speaker 4: Nfl did you have any scholarship? Offers they say you 137 00:06:40,736 --> 00:06:44,255 Speaker 4: walked on but smaller schools, none, zero no. Way, yeah it's. 138 00:06:44,255 --> 00:06:46,576 Speaker 2: Incredible in, FACT i didn't. Either we have that in. 139 00:06:46,616 --> 00:06:48,616 Speaker 4: COMMENTS i got no offers, either or did? 140 00:06:48,616 --> 00:06:50,255 Speaker 2: You did you lie to people? Too BECAUSE i remember 141 00:06:50,255 --> 00:06:52,975 Speaker 2: going in there as a you, know it's such a 142 00:06:53,015 --> 00:06:55,256 Speaker 2: the locker room is so, unique and as a as 143 00:06:55,296 --> 00:06:57,496 Speaker 2: a walk on coming, in there's there's a stigma and 144 00:06:58,376 --> 00:07:00,575 Speaker 2: some of it's true about being a walk, on it's 145 00:07:00,575 --> 00:07:03,456 Speaker 2: NOT I i you, KNOW i hold it up now 146 00:07:03,496 --> 00:07:04,695 Speaker 2: as a badge of. Honor by at the, time you 147 00:07:04,736 --> 00:07:06,255 Speaker 2: don't want people to. Know SO i lied people like, 148 00:07:06,296 --> 00:07:10,496 Speaker 2: WELL i Got Idaho Arizona. STATE i picked the low 149 00:07:10,536 --> 00:07:12,215 Speaker 2: hanging fruit in the pack ten at the, TIME i 150 00:07:12,256 --> 00:07:14,456 Speaker 2: JUST i THINK i Said, Arizona Arizona state In, idaho 151 00:07:14,456 --> 00:07:15,855 Speaker 2: and the you, KNOW i kind of slipped in the 152 00:07:15,896 --> 00:07:18,055 Speaker 2: crowd right. There BUT i didn't have any. 153 00:07:18,096 --> 00:07:20,816 Speaker 3: You, know growing up in the family that you. Did 154 00:07:21,056 --> 00:07:24,336 Speaker 3: did you have a normal childhood or at what point 155 00:07:24,336 --> 00:07:27,176 Speaker 3: did you realize That matthew's name holds a lot of 156 00:07:27,176 --> 00:07:29,576 Speaker 3: weight and did that put added pressure on you growing? 157 00:07:29,655 --> 00:07:32,176 Speaker 3: Up and how was that for you as a. 158 00:07:32,256 --> 00:07:35,496 Speaker 2: Kid, honestly it didn't that any pressure me. WHATSOEVER i 159 00:07:35,536 --> 00:07:38,655 Speaker 2: think just growing up WHERE i went to my father's 160 00:07:38,696 --> 00:07:41,096 Speaker 2: games On, sundays whereas you, know he worked on the, 161 00:07:41,096 --> 00:07:43,336 Speaker 2: weekends whereas most working nine to five Or monday Through. 162 00:07:43,336 --> 00:07:45,776 Speaker 2: Friday THAT i kind of grew up around it AND 163 00:07:45,816 --> 00:07:48,415 Speaker 2: i was immune to, it so to, speak and that 164 00:07:48,496 --> 00:07:51,296 Speaker 2: it didn't phase. Me now WHEN i got older in high, 165 00:07:51,336 --> 00:07:53,936 Speaker 2: school there you know what, happened or you're going to 166 00:07:53,936 --> 00:07:56,655 Speaker 2: play in THE. Nfl BUT i, NEVER i, NEVER i 167 00:07:56,696 --> 00:07:59,936 Speaker 2: never looked past the, day you, know the, present you, 168 00:07:59,976 --> 00:08:01,616 Speaker 2: know playing in THE, nfl playing in. COLLEGE i just 169 00:08:01,696 --> 00:08:04,136 Speaker 2: kind of fell into. IT i fell into being a walk. 170 00:08:04,176 --> 00:08:06,576 Speaker 2: ON i got my a kicked WHEN i got, there 171 00:08:06,655 --> 00:08:08,136 Speaker 2: AND i wanted to quit AND i just kind of 172 00:08:08,136 --> 00:08:10,256 Speaker 2: stuck with. It but as far as my, childhood my 173 00:08:10,336 --> 00:08:12,095 Speaker 2: dad was not like you, know some of these golf 174 00:08:12,176 --> 00:08:14,296 Speaker 2: dads you see or some of these these baseball dads 175 00:08:14,336 --> 00:08:16,215 Speaker 2: you see nowadays that are just, like you're going to be. 176 00:08:16,256 --> 00:08:18,256 Speaker 2: Great he was just, like, eh if it works, out works, 177 00:08:18,256 --> 00:08:20,216 Speaker 2: out try to get me in the golds gym out 178 00:08:20,215 --> 00:08:21,816 Speaker 2: there in a. GORE i just, Like, DAD i don't 179 00:08:21,816 --> 00:08:24,176 Speaker 2: want to do, this you. Know and it really took 180 00:08:24,215 --> 00:08:25,816 Speaker 2: until my junior year in high school THAT i made 181 00:08:25,816 --> 00:08:30,136 Speaker 2: a commitment to you, know better, myself getting, bigger you, know, faster, 182 00:08:30,296 --> 00:08:32,295 Speaker 2: stronger all. That BUT i had it had to come from. 183 00:08:32,336 --> 00:08:35,456 Speaker 2: Within and OBVIOUSLY i would assume for most, boys their 184 00:08:35,496 --> 00:08:37,816 Speaker 2: greatest role model is their. Father was no different from, me, 185 00:08:37,976 --> 00:08:40,696 Speaker 2: so you, know watching, HIM i was, like, well, SHOOT 186 00:08:40,736 --> 00:08:42,256 Speaker 2: i hoped the one day play in THE, nfl BUT 187 00:08:42,295 --> 00:08:45,336 Speaker 2: i never you, know my childhood wasn't different from anyone. 188 00:08:45,336 --> 00:08:47,296 Speaker 4: Else's but if you'd wanted to be an account and, 189 00:08:47,336 --> 00:08:48,616 Speaker 4: skateboard it. 190 00:08:48,535 --> 00:08:49,216 Speaker 2: Would allow me. 191 00:08:49,256 --> 00:08:49,336 Speaker 3: To. 192 00:08:49,696 --> 00:08:52,896 Speaker 2: Yeah he just his biggest piece of advice was it 193 00:08:52,976 --> 00:08:55,376 Speaker 2: doesn't matter what you, do just be great at. It 194 00:08:55,496 --> 00:08:58,456 Speaker 2: just give, it you, know max effort and you'll be all. 195 00:08:58,535 --> 00:09:00,496 Speaker 2: Right and that's trying WHAT i tell my kids. Now it's, 196 00:09:00,496 --> 00:09:01,936 Speaker 2: like you don't have to play in THE. Nfl you 197 00:09:01,935 --> 00:09:04,256 Speaker 2: don't have, to you, know but just but just be 198 00:09:04,295 --> 00:09:06,256 Speaker 2: great at whatever it. Is you give it your all 199 00:09:06,336 --> 00:09:07,696 Speaker 2: and you will be great when you do. 200 00:09:07,736 --> 00:09:11,016 Speaker 3: That, Yeah so you get drafted To Green. Bay you're 201 00:09:11,216 --> 00:09:14,295 Speaker 3: a first round. Pick you played really one season AT 202 00:09:14,415 --> 00:09:16,696 Speaker 3: usc and you go in and you hit the ground 203 00:09:16,736 --> 00:09:18,976 Speaker 3: running and they actually Traded brett fav to get that 204 00:09:19,055 --> 00:09:22,416 Speaker 3: pick and go. Up did you even realize that when 205 00:09:22,456 --> 00:09:24,136 Speaker 3: that happened at the time or are you just, LIKE 206 00:09:24,295 --> 00:09:26,175 Speaker 3: i can't Believe i'm a first round pick after one 207 00:09:26,216 --> 00:09:27,976 Speaker 3: year of playing and then you hit the ground. 208 00:09:28,016 --> 00:09:31,616 Speaker 2: Running, yeah it was pretty. WILD i, remember if we're 209 00:09:31,616 --> 00:09:34,136 Speaker 2: going to relive my college, experience let's just fast forward 210 00:09:34,175 --> 00:09:35,815 Speaker 2: to the fifth and final, year which is all that really. 211 00:09:35,856 --> 00:09:39,856 Speaker 2: MATTERS i didn't start for the first three, games AND 212 00:09:39,935 --> 00:09:42,416 Speaker 2: i played really well as a situational pass. RUSHER i 213 00:09:42,456 --> 00:09:45,256 Speaker 2: had a few, sacks force, fumbles fumble, recovers were playing really. 214 00:09:45,295 --> 00:09:47,056 Speaker 2: Well but once Again everson was in front of, me 215 00:09:47,535 --> 00:09:49,536 Speaker 2: and we had a loss On thursday night To Oregon, 216 00:09:49,576 --> 00:09:52,056 Speaker 2: state our only loss of the, year and fortunately we 217 00:09:52,096 --> 00:09:54,656 Speaker 2: went back in On, Monday we're gonna getting ready to Play, 218 00:09:54,696 --> 00:09:57,415 Speaker 2: oregon And pete looked at, Me, hey you're in the 219 00:09:57,415 --> 00:09:59,416 Speaker 2: starting line of don't let me, Down and so that 220 00:09:59,576 --> 00:10:01,295 Speaker 2: was kind of. It, NOW i had spent four and 221 00:10:01,336 --> 00:10:03,496 Speaker 2: a half years on the, bench SO i wasn't giving 222 00:10:03,535 --> 00:10:06,376 Speaker 2: up my spot right. Then so you, KNOW i JUST 223 00:10:07,216 --> 00:10:09,496 Speaker 2: i was like the new girl on, campus you know 224 00:10:09,535 --> 00:10:11,456 Speaker 2: WHAT i, Mean, like whereas a guy Like cush had 225 00:10:12,096 --> 00:10:14,496 Speaker 2: five years of tape and for people to break him 226 00:10:14,496 --> 00:10:16,496 Speaker 2: down and say what about, this he maybe have more, 227 00:10:16,535 --> 00:10:19,096 Speaker 2: miles you, know on the. Tread and for, ME i 228 00:10:19,136 --> 00:10:21,295 Speaker 2: think there was. Curiosity but at the end of the, 229 00:10:21,376 --> 00:10:22,856 Speaker 2: day when it came down to A, gm they're going 230 00:10:22,935 --> 00:10:25,136 Speaker 2: to want somebody who's. Proven and so for, ME i 231 00:10:25,175 --> 00:10:27,616 Speaker 2: knew there was a possibility of going first round because 232 00:10:27,655 --> 00:10:30,295 Speaker 2: of WHAT i believed in. MYSELF i just needed one 233 00:10:30,295 --> 00:10:32,736 Speaker 2: person to believe in, me and fortunately it Was Green. 234 00:10:32,736 --> 00:10:35,336 Speaker 2: Bay and like you, Mentioned, matt they gave up i 235 00:10:35,336 --> 00:10:38,936 Speaker 2: think two thirds and a second round pick and that 236 00:10:39,136 --> 00:10:41,576 Speaker 2: far of trade they. Got so but to, me you, 237 00:10:41,616 --> 00:10:44,576 Speaker 2: Know i'm still so naive and so green Where i'm just, 238 00:10:44,655 --> 00:10:46,095 Speaker 2: like all, right this is. COOL i don't even know 239 00:10:46,136 --> 00:10:49,016 Speaker 2: Wh wisconsin was on a Map Green. Bay and so for, 240 00:10:49,055 --> 00:10:51,216 Speaker 2: ME i wouldn't even say my head was. SPINNING i 241 00:10:51,256 --> 00:10:52,936 Speaker 2: just didn't know WHAT i was getting myself. Into AND 242 00:10:52,976 --> 00:10:55,175 Speaker 2: i think that that helped a lot in my immediate 243 00:10:55,175 --> 00:10:57,896 Speaker 2: successes because it was just business as. USUAL i wasn't you, 244 00:10:57,935 --> 00:11:00,816 Speaker 2: know flustered or you, know the money and the fame 245 00:11:00,896 --> 00:11:02,655 Speaker 2: whatever that comes with. It it was just, like all, 246 00:11:02,776 --> 00:11:06,176 Speaker 2: right this has been my, life you, know from my entire. 247 00:11:06,216 --> 00:11:08,815 Speaker 4: Childhood the one year that you walk on and you red. 248 00:11:08,856 --> 00:11:12,335 Speaker 4: Shirt so three years you're playing special, teams you Got 249 00:11:12,935 --> 00:11:16,295 Speaker 4: Special Teams player of the year those, Years when did 250 00:11:16,295 --> 00:11:17,216 Speaker 4: you get a? Scholarship? 251 00:11:17,295 --> 00:11:20,136 Speaker 2: Though my third, year SO i was MY i read 252 00:11:20,175 --> 00:11:22,575 Speaker 2: shirt in my first. Year was my red shirt sophomore 253 00:11:22,696 --> 00:11:25,616 Speaker 2: year on the first day of training. Camp so usually 254 00:11:25,655 --> 00:11:28,455 Speaker 2: they wait until for. Us you were walk on, too weren't? 255 00:11:28,496 --> 00:11:29,616 Speaker 2: You or, no, NO i earned a. 256 00:11:29,616 --> 00:11:33,575 Speaker 3: Scholarship, okay speak for. Yourself i'm. 257 00:11:33,616 --> 00:11:36,296 Speaker 2: Sorry, well so normally what they, do and this is 258 00:11:37,256 --> 00:11:40,096 Speaker 2: it's not even a dirty, secret but they. Win you 259 00:11:40,175 --> 00:11:43,096 Speaker 2: have to have A, gpa your team has to pass 260 00:11:43,216 --> 00:11:46,415 Speaker 2: you know SOME gpa and you, know athletes aren't always 261 00:11:46,456 --> 00:11:48,856 Speaker 2: the brightest and So i'm blumping myself And matt in. 262 00:11:48,896 --> 00:11:50,896 Speaker 2: There and so they usually wait for the walk on 263 00:11:50,935 --> 00:11:52,976 Speaker 2: because the walk ons usually get into school based on their, 264 00:11:53,016 --> 00:11:55,055 Speaker 2: merit and you, know they usually apply themselves in the. 265 00:11:55,096 --> 00:11:57,936 Speaker 2: Classroom but and so they wait until the last week 266 00:11:58,016 --> 00:11:59,936 Speaker 2: of you, know before training camp, starts and they usually 267 00:11:59,935 --> 00:12:01,616 Speaker 2: have about four or five scholarship and they give them 268 00:12:01,616 --> 00:12:03,295 Speaker 2: to the guys who are in their last. Year it's 269 00:12:03,295 --> 00:12:06,655 Speaker 2: actually it's really. MOVING i love when guys get scholarships, 270 00:12:06,696 --> 00:12:08,696 Speaker 2: nowadays when they bring them and they do a whole. 271 00:12:08,696 --> 00:12:11,056 Speaker 2: Cell it's so. Rewarding AND i remember WHEN i got my. 272 00:12:11,136 --> 00:12:14,616 Speaker 2: SCHOLARSHIP i was you, KNOW i wasn't really, emotional but 273 00:12:14,935 --> 00:12:17,856 Speaker 2: hearing my parents' joy WHEN i called them just fired me. 274 00:12:17,976 --> 00:12:20,455 Speaker 2: Up like and so now WHEN i see that like walk, 275 00:12:20,496 --> 00:12:22,776 Speaker 2: ons you, know because LIKE i, said there's a negative 276 00:12:22,776 --> 00:12:25,856 Speaker 2: connotation that comes with it until you get through. It 277 00:12:26,256 --> 00:12:27,935 Speaker 2: and a lot of those, guys you, know they belong 278 00:12:27,976 --> 00:12:29,416 Speaker 2: with the frats and they just want to party and 279 00:12:29,415 --> 00:12:31,056 Speaker 2: they want to be a part of the football. Team 280 00:12:31,096 --> 00:12:33,496 Speaker 2: but there is a lot that goes into, it and 281 00:12:33,535 --> 00:12:36,095 Speaker 2: a lot that people don't see that the red, SHIRTS i, 282 00:12:36,136 --> 00:12:37,936 Speaker 2: think or black shirts as we call, them the scout, 283 00:12:37,976 --> 00:12:40,736 Speaker 2: team just getting your head beat, in and so it 284 00:12:40,816 --> 00:12:42,656 Speaker 2: meant a great, deal And i'm still proud THAT i 285 00:12:42,696 --> 00:12:43,416 Speaker 2: was able to earn it that. 286 00:12:43,415 --> 00:12:45,856 Speaker 4: Way the three videos that make me emotional are one 287 00:12:46,295 --> 00:12:50,096 Speaker 4: in order At number, One military family surprising like those 288 00:12:50,295 --> 00:12:55,576 Speaker 4: always get me. Absolutely Number, two when they offer a 289 00:12:55,616 --> 00:12:59,136 Speaker 4: player a, scholarship basketball or, football mostly it's like the 290 00:12:59,136 --> 00:13:01,136 Speaker 4: teams gathered. Around it's the end of a practice and 291 00:13:01,175 --> 00:13:04,815 Speaker 4: they're like everybody gathered around Then, chris, oh, okay so that's. 292 00:13:04,856 --> 00:13:07,016 Speaker 4: Awesome Number, Three my new one is when players get 293 00:13:07,055 --> 00:13:09,736 Speaker 4: called up to the. Majors oh, man they'll bring. 294 00:13:09,736 --> 00:13:10,096 Speaker 2: Them in the. 295 00:13:10,136 --> 00:13:14,736 Speaker 4: Office i'll be, Like matt been really playing consistent for, 296 00:13:14,856 --> 00:13:17,095 Speaker 4: Us we've got Some we've got five good innings out 297 00:13:17,096 --> 00:13:18,976 Speaker 4: of you last, week and we need to have this tough. 298 00:13:18,976 --> 00:13:21,816 Speaker 4: Talk and it's like COACHING i going. Down you're going 299 00:13:21,816 --> 00:13:25,376 Speaker 4: to the bigs every. TIME i guess it's like happy sad. 300 00:13:25,415 --> 00:13:25,815 Speaker 2: Tier that's. 301 00:13:25,896 --> 00:13:27,736 Speaker 4: Awesome, Yeah i'd probably crad If i've seen, that. 302 00:13:27,776 --> 00:13:29,536 Speaker 2: Though we'll just get more, mature you. 303 00:13:29,576 --> 00:13:32,816 Speaker 3: Know talking about the walk on in, itself and now 304 00:13:32,896 --> 00:13:35,616 Speaker 3: that they've expanded the scholarships for the football, programs and 305 00:13:35,616 --> 00:13:37,335 Speaker 3: they say that the walk on is going to go? 306 00:13:37,376 --> 00:13:41,055 Speaker 3: Away do you think that that is going to hurt 307 00:13:41,055 --> 00:13:43,096 Speaker 3: college football a little? Bit because guys like, you and 308 00:13:43,216 --> 00:13:45,935 Speaker 3: we've seen it throughout our, career guys that develop a 309 00:13:45,976 --> 00:13:46,336 Speaker 3: little bit. 310 00:13:46,456 --> 00:13:50,536 Speaker 2: Later Baker MAYFIELD jj wattred these guys were walk on 311 00:13:50,616 --> 00:13:52,896 Speaker 2: who you know have gone on to do amazing. Things, well, 312 00:13:53,295 --> 00:13:55,416 Speaker 2: YEAH i mean obviously haven't gone through it. Myself those, 313 00:13:55,456 --> 00:13:58,455 Speaker 2: GUYS i, mean you can, laugh but they're the cornerstone 314 00:13:58,456 --> 00:14:00,215 Speaker 2: of some teams because those are the guys who give 315 00:14:00,216 --> 00:14:02,455 Speaker 2: the looks during the week that we get to practice, 316 00:14:02,496 --> 00:14:04,816 Speaker 2: against and you need those. Guys there's a role for those, 317 00:14:04,816 --> 00:14:07,776 Speaker 2: guys and everyone's gonna go on to be a first 318 00:14:07,856 --> 00:14:11,496 Speaker 2: round pick and having an AMAZING nfl. Career but, YEAH 319 00:14:11,496 --> 00:14:13,696 Speaker 2: i don't think you'll ever go, Away. MATT i, KNOW 320 00:14:13,736 --> 00:14:15,736 Speaker 2: i Know i've heard that because of you, know today's 321 00:14:15,935 --> 00:14:20,136 Speaker 2: Nil but which also leads to a separate conversation, about you, 322 00:14:20,176 --> 00:14:23,856 Speaker 2: know the reason WHY i got to Where i'm at 323 00:14:23,896 --> 00:14:25,496 Speaker 2: is because of the struggle THAT i had to deal. 324 00:14:25,536 --> 00:14:26,976 Speaker 2: With AND i don't mean in the sense, of you, 325 00:14:26,976 --> 00:14:29,816 Speaker 2: know my associoeconomic class and HOW i grew, up but 326 00:14:29,936 --> 00:14:32,576 Speaker 2: just kind of WHAT i had to overcome and scratch 327 00:14:32,576 --> 00:14:34,976 Speaker 2: and cloth. For and nowadays when you're able to transfer 328 00:14:35,096 --> 00:14:39,576 Speaker 2: and you're you're bidding yourself to the highest, bidder it's you, 329 00:14:39,616 --> 00:14:41,976 Speaker 2: Know i'm curious about the resiliency of these athletes moving 330 00:14:42,056 --> 00:14:44,296 Speaker 2: forward when they get to the next. Level it's gotta 331 00:14:44,296 --> 00:14:45,936 Speaker 2: be tough for THE nfl when you're looking at guys 332 00:14:45,976 --> 00:14:49,576 Speaker 2: who you know are jumping. Around, obviously talent will supersede everything. 333 00:14:49,616 --> 00:14:50,936 Speaker 2: Else but at the end of the, day like when 334 00:14:50,976 --> 00:14:52,936 Speaker 2: push comes to, shove it's the fourth, quarter it's a tie. 335 00:14:53,016 --> 00:14:55,496 Speaker 2: Game LIKE i want guys who are battle hardened and. 336 00:14:55,576 --> 00:15:12,216 Speaker 2: Tested who were. 337 00:15:12,056 --> 00:15:13,576 Speaker 3: Some of the guys that when you first came in 338 00:15:13,616 --> 00:15:15,576 Speaker 3: the league took you under their wing and you'd say 339 00:15:15,696 --> 00:15:17,856 Speaker 3: had an impact in your career of showing you how 340 00:15:17,856 --> 00:15:18,096 Speaker 3: to be a. 341 00:15:18,136 --> 00:15:20,856 Speaker 2: Professional, yeah well those are those are the guys WHO 342 00:15:20,896 --> 00:15:24,136 Speaker 2: i still AND i tell everybody, this a guy like. 343 00:15:24,256 --> 00:15:28,336 Speaker 2: YOU i already Mentioned Ryan, Khalil Sam, Baker Lendale white 344 00:15:28,376 --> 00:15:30,215 Speaker 2: as a matter of, fact you, know he was always 345 00:15:30,256 --> 00:15:33,496 Speaker 2: good to me, because LIKE i, said the not THE 346 00:15:33,616 --> 00:15:36,656 Speaker 2: nfl locker, room the collegiate locker. Room THE nfl locker 347 00:15:36,696 --> 00:15:40,136 Speaker 2: room is you, know it's a little more inclusive of you, 348 00:15:40,136 --> 00:15:42,376 Speaker 2: know because you've all gone through you, know the collegiate, 349 00:15:42,456 --> 00:15:44,776 Speaker 2: ranks you've all you, know made, it so to. Speak 350 00:15:44,816 --> 00:15:48,376 Speaker 2: but in college it's very separating to your, superstars your 351 00:15:48,416 --> 00:15:51,056 Speaker 2: mid level, guys your your your you, know your tier 352 00:15:51,136 --> 00:15:55,536 Speaker 2: threes like. Myself and so those guys who had lofa 353 00:15:55,576 --> 00:15:58,496 Speaker 2: Tatupu matt grud to good guys who had success but 354 00:15:58,656 --> 00:16:03,256 Speaker 2: looked out for, Me Frosty, Rucker Mike, Patterson Sean. Cody, 355 00:16:03,296 --> 00:16:04,976 Speaker 2: ACTUALLY i guess there was a great deal and that 356 00:16:05,056 --> 00:16:08,296 Speaker 2: helped because my brother had played With matt and before, 357 00:16:08,336 --> 00:16:09,936 Speaker 2: me so he had a few friends on the teams, that, 358 00:16:09,976 --> 00:16:12,136 Speaker 2: hey can you know look out for my. Brother AND 359 00:16:12,216 --> 00:16:14,095 Speaker 2: i still got my head beat. In BUT i had 360 00:16:14,136 --> 00:16:16,096 Speaker 2: guys in my corner and everybody who had MENTIONED i 361 00:16:16,136 --> 00:16:18,856 Speaker 2: still hold them in such high regard because you, know 362 00:16:18,856 --> 00:16:22,016 Speaker 2: they didn't have to treat me any specific. Way it 363 00:16:22,096 --> 00:16:24,096 Speaker 2: could have just treated me like everybody. Else but they 364 00:16:24,096 --> 00:16:26,296 Speaker 2: were great to, me looked out for, me and you, 365 00:16:26,296 --> 00:16:26,896 Speaker 2: know took care of. 366 00:16:26,976 --> 00:16:30,296 Speaker 4: Me If i'm In california AND i grew up A california, 367 00:16:30,376 --> 00:16:32,096 Speaker 4: kid there are two PLACES i don't want to play. 368 00:16:32,256 --> 00:16:33,696 Speaker 4: NOW i want to play anywhere in THE, nfl that's. 369 00:16:33,696 --> 00:16:35,136 Speaker 4: Amazing BUT i want to go To. BUFFALO i don't 370 00:16:35,136 --> 00:16:37,335 Speaker 4: want to go To Green bay because freaking, Cold like it's a different. 371 00:16:37,416 --> 00:16:40,176 Speaker 4: Level it's like. Alien it's Like mars minus andundred degrees. 372 00:16:40,216 --> 00:16:43,216 Speaker 4: Cold that to your body does What that's a, transition, 373 00:16:43,336 --> 00:16:44,096 Speaker 4: right you. 374 00:16:44,136 --> 00:16:46,616 Speaker 2: Know it's a, Transition BUT i don't. Know there's something 375 00:16:46,656 --> 00:16:49,215 Speaker 2: about it. Too it's mental. Wargames you. Know you see 376 00:16:49,256 --> 00:16:51,176 Speaker 2: these guys coming From florida's they got their ski mask, 377 00:16:51,216 --> 00:16:52,776 Speaker 2: on their shirt off in pre. Game you're, like you 378 00:16:52,816 --> 00:16:55,976 Speaker 2: ain't it is like a four hour. Game you're not handling. 379 00:16:56,016 --> 00:16:58,696 Speaker 2: This BUT i also found like being the kids From 380 00:16:58,696 --> 00:17:02,176 Speaker 2: california with the long blonde, hair like, obviously oh are 381 00:17:02,256 --> 00:17:03,696 Speaker 2: you going to handle? THIS i felt LIKE i had 382 00:17:03,696 --> 00:17:05,936 Speaker 2: to go over and beyond of like SO i was 383 00:17:05,976 --> 00:17:08,215 Speaker 2: the guy pouring water in my, hair icy coles at 384 00:17:08,216 --> 00:17:09,936 Speaker 2: the tip of my hair AND i BUT i loved, 385 00:17:09,936 --> 00:17:12,016 Speaker 2: IT i you. Know and Then NATURA i played into 386 00:17:12,056 --> 00:17:14,936 Speaker 2: my you, know My nordic roots and and. Everything but 387 00:17:15,576 --> 00:17:18,456 Speaker 2: Now Green bay and and Now buffalo with the success they've. 388 00:17:18,495 --> 00:17:20,376 Speaker 2: Had yes they are small market. 389 00:17:20,096 --> 00:17:21,535 Speaker 4: Teams but the Notn. 390 00:17:23,936 --> 00:17:26,096 Speaker 2: But you got to it's both teams are playing in 391 00:17:26,096 --> 00:17:27,856 Speaker 2: the coal so at that point you're in the same, 392 00:17:27,856 --> 00:17:30,376 Speaker 2: elements whether it's your, footing you're route, running passing the. 393 00:17:30,416 --> 00:17:32,735 Speaker 2: Ball it just comes down to you know who wants 394 00:17:32,735 --> 00:17:34,455 Speaker 2: it more and who's mentally tough and when you when 395 00:17:34,495 --> 00:17:36,416 Speaker 2: you live in that but you have to live. 396 00:17:36,455 --> 00:17:39,455 Speaker 4: There, yeah BUT i, mean, like CAN i See, Clay 397 00:17:39,495 --> 00:17:41,936 Speaker 4: i'm just a big Pudd well, YEAH. 398 00:17:41,735 --> 00:17:43,496 Speaker 2: I, mean but if you live, there you'd you'd you'd 399 00:17:43,495 --> 00:17:44,896 Speaker 2: be blue cott just. 400 00:17:44,936 --> 00:17:47,095 Speaker 3: Retire one of the coolest GAMES i have ever Been 401 00:17:47,136 --> 00:17:50,016 Speaker 3: and we went there With. Detroit it was negative five 402 00:17:50,136 --> 00:17:52,536 Speaker 3: at game time And i'm, like what you could even, 403 00:17:52,576 --> 00:17:54,616 Speaker 3: spit it would just stick to your face. Mask i'm, 404 00:17:54,616 --> 00:17:56,735 Speaker 3: like and were you one of those guys that would 405 00:17:56,975 --> 00:17:58,455 Speaker 3: put stuff on underneath or you were just. 406 00:17:58,495 --> 00:18:02,376 Speaker 2: Sleevelessly only one game DID i wear a long. Sleeve 407 00:18:02,376 --> 00:18:05,136 Speaker 2: we were In. Chicago it was like seven. DEGREES i 408 00:18:05,176 --> 00:18:07,455 Speaker 2: had flew that. Game and you talk About Michael jordan's 409 00:18:07,455 --> 00:18:10,376 Speaker 2: FLU i was. Trash that was so, bad shaking on 410 00:18:10,416 --> 00:18:12,536 Speaker 2: the sideline and that was the only GAME i ever. 411 00:18:12,536 --> 00:18:14,136 Speaker 2: Wore but, NOW i, mean once you start, playing once 412 00:18:14,136 --> 00:18:15,495 Speaker 2: you get to the sideline, too they give you the 413 00:18:15,536 --> 00:18:18,336 Speaker 2: parkas and the beanies and they wrap you up and 414 00:18:18,336 --> 00:18:20,856 Speaker 2: you got the. Heater it's it's not that bad at. 415 00:18:20,776 --> 00:18:23,016 Speaker 4: A point, though BECAUSE i did a lot of hunting growing. 416 00:18:23,056 --> 00:18:25,016 Speaker 4: Up i'm from Rural, arkansas so we hunted a. Lot 417 00:18:25,096 --> 00:18:26,735 Speaker 4: but there was a point where none of that stuff. 418 00:18:26,856 --> 00:18:29,176 Speaker 4: Back once you're already, cold you're just, cold like you're just. 419 00:18:29,215 --> 00:18:30,975 Speaker 4: Cold you can put all the stuff. On here's just. 420 00:18:31,056 --> 00:18:34,696 Speaker 2: Cold i'm also all, right well but that's when you're 421 00:18:34,896 --> 00:18:36,775 Speaker 2: the mental comes. In you, know you got? It, Okay 422 00:18:36,856 --> 00:18:38,936 Speaker 2: well you can develop. That there's still. Time, YEAH i 423 00:18:38,936 --> 00:18:40,535 Speaker 2: don't think they can send you off to the frozen. 424 00:18:40,536 --> 00:18:42,975 Speaker 3: Tundra, well, yeah we should just start developing that mental 425 00:18:42,975 --> 00:18:43,416 Speaker 3: toughness for. 426 00:18:43,455 --> 00:18:43,535 Speaker 2: You. 427 00:18:43,616 --> 00:18:45,416 Speaker 4: YEAH i got in different, ways just not that way. 428 00:18:45,455 --> 00:18:49,176 Speaker 4: There i'm curious, whenever let's say things started to work 429 00:18:49,215 --> 00:18:52,136 Speaker 4: for you and you're constantly double, team do you're constantly 430 00:18:52,176 --> 00:18:55,696 Speaker 4: the target or you're always i, Mean mike's on you 431 00:18:55,735 --> 00:18:57,295 Speaker 4: all the, time like you are the center of what 432 00:18:57,416 --> 00:18:59,575 Speaker 4: they have to pay attention to. Do they have to 433 00:18:59,576 --> 00:19:01,616 Speaker 4: start moving you around like they do a receiver in 434 00:19:01,696 --> 00:19:03,776 Speaker 4: order to get them. Open so people aren't always chipped 435 00:19:03,776 --> 00:19:05,896 Speaker 4: the running bas always sipping, you So i'll always double teaming. 436 00:19:05,896 --> 00:19:07,896 Speaker 4: You when does that come into play with you in THE? 437 00:19:08,016 --> 00:19:11,735 Speaker 2: Nfl so my first my rookie, YEAR i wasn't double 438 00:19:11,776 --> 00:19:16,776 Speaker 2: teamed until week. Seventeen we played The Arizona cardinals AND 439 00:19:16,856 --> 00:19:18,856 Speaker 2: i Think kurt we were actually gonna play them the 440 00:19:18,896 --> 00:19:22,176 Speaker 2: next week in the wild card, round and So Kurt 441 00:19:22,176 --> 00:19:24,336 Speaker 2: warner was the. Quarterback they played him for like seven. 442 00:19:24,416 --> 00:19:26,616 Speaker 2: Plays he sat. Out we beat The brakes. Off Matt 443 00:19:26,616 --> 00:19:28,975 Speaker 2: liner was actually got some good hits on, him but 444 00:19:30,056 --> 00:19:32,215 Speaker 2: we went, like you, know forty two to twenty or. 445 00:19:32,256 --> 00:19:34,056 Speaker 2: Something so we went in the next week thinking we're 446 00:19:34,056 --> 00:19:36,255 Speaker 2: gonna kick their, ass and you, KNOW i, WAS i 447 00:19:36,376 --> 00:19:38,815 Speaker 2: was HAVING i WAS i was rushing pretty good at that. 448 00:19:38,856 --> 00:19:41,976 Speaker 2: Game AND i remember the next week we went out, 449 00:19:41,975 --> 00:19:43,775 Speaker 2: there they started double teaming me and chipping me with 450 00:19:43,816 --> 00:19:45,856 Speaker 2: a back AND i remember being so flustered BECAUSE i 451 00:19:45,856 --> 00:19:49,535 Speaker 2: had never been double team. Before now you guys stopped 452 00:19:49,576 --> 00:19:51,576 Speaker 2: doing you, know like you just it's not, fair you 453 00:19:51,656 --> 00:19:54,016 Speaker 2: know this and. That and that was my first time 454 00:19:54,056 --> 00:19:56,816 Speaker 2: and from that POINT i was double. Teamed but the 455 00:19:56,896 --> 00:19:59,215 Speaker 2: one thing you realize is like there's no point bitching 456 00:19:59,256 --> 00:20:01,296 Speaker 2: and complaining about. It it's just comes down, to like 457 00:20:01,336 --> 00:20:03,896 Speaker 2: you look at the greatest pass, Rushers Miles, GARRETT Jj, 458 00:20:04,096 --> 00:20:07,896 Speaker 2: Watt jared aut guys of our generation as, well that's 459 00:20:07,975 --> 00:20:10,056 Speaker 2: not an. Excuse the greatest players are expected to be 460 00:20:10,096 --> 00:20:13,136 Speaker 2: double team whether it's a receiver or you, know whatever it, 461 00:20:13,256 --> 00:20:15,896 Speaker 2: is and they're expected to make the. Play, so you, 462 00:20:15,975 --> 00:20:18,616 Speaker 2: know your mentality has to continue to shift as you 463 00:20:18,735 --> 00:20:21,095 Speaker 2: progress in the. League so that next year twenty ten 464 00:20:21,176 --> 00:20:23,095 Speaker 2: was the year we won The Super. BOWL i ended 465 00:20:23,176 --> 00:20:26,336 Speaker 2: up having another pretty good, season and you, KNOW i 466 00:20:26,416 --> 00:20:30,455 Speaker 2: just had to continue to to elevate my Mental are you. 467 00:20:30,576 --> 00:20:32,696 Speaker 4: Moving around a lot, though so they can't find you 468 00:20:33,416 --> 00:20:34,735 Speaker 4: or at least it's harder to find. 469 00:20:34,816 --> 00:20:35,975 Speaker 3: You, yeah you KNOW. 470 00:20:37,776 --> 00:20:39,656 Speaker 2: I felt LIKE i could do it. ALL i felt 471 00:20:39,735 --> 00:20:43,136 Speaker 2: like you could line me up over the center, guard 472 00:20:43,256 --> 00:20:45,616 Speaker 2: tackle whatever it, is AND i was able to have you, 473 00:20:45,656 --> 00:20:50,815 Speaker 2: know some shake strength everything to allow myself to free myself. Up, 474 00:20:50,856 --> 00:20:52,336 Speaker 2: yes because when you stay on the edge sometimes it 475 00:20:52,376 --> 00:20:55,535 Speaker 2: gets you, know they can find ways to work around. 476 00:20:55,616 --> 00:20:58,136 Speaker 2: You you, know you could run, away run, too there's 477 00:20:58,176 --> 00:21:01,735 Speaker 2: ways to negate a pass. Rusher but when you're playing 478 00:21:01,816 --> 00:21:04,256 Speaker 2: off the ball, backer you're moving around in different, gaps 479 00:21:04,296 --> 00:21:07,416 Speaker 2: running games with. Others it's harder to locate that, guy 480 00:21:08,696 --> 00:21:10,095 Speaker 2: but you have more opportunities to make. 481 00:21:10,136 --> 00:21:12,575 Speaker 3: Plays wouldn't you say that was your biggest? Strength? Though 482 00:21:12,616 --> 00:21:15,696 Speaker 3: it was your versatility because every time we played, you, 483 00:21:15,776 --> 00:21:18,416 Speaker 3: guys if he lined up in the same, position we 484 00:21:18,856 --> 00:21:20,856 Speaker 3: would think our lucky stars because we knew where he 485 00:21:20,975 --> 00:21:22,336 Speaker 3: was going to line, up but he would move to 486 00:21:22,536 --> 00:21:25,216 Speaker 3: off the ball. Linebacker he'd, be like he, said over 487 00:21:25,336 --> 00:21:28,176 Speaker 3: our center and create some confusion, there and so you'd 488 00:21:28,256 --> 00:21:30,976 Speaker 3: mess with the protection. Schemes but you had that dynamic. 489 00:21:31,016 --> 00:21:32,775 Speaker 3: ABILITY i remember we played you In. Dallas one of 490 00:21:32,776 --> 00:21:34,616 Speaker 3: the hardest. HITS i Think i've told you this, before 491 00:21:34,656 --> 00:21:36,576 Speaker 3: one of the hardest Hits i've ever ever. Took you 492 00:21:36,696 --> 00:21:39,696 Speaker 3: lined up at the weak side. Linebacker our running back's 493 00:21:40,136 --> 00:21:42,535 Speaker 3: supposed to get, you AND i just see you blitz 494 00:21:42,576 --> 00:21:44,136 Speaker 3: off AND i was, Like, okay here he. Comes i'm. 495 00:21:44,136 --> 00:21:46,616 Speaker 3: Waiting i'm dropping back in the. PERIPHERAL i can kind 496 00:21:46,616 --> 00:21:49,455 Speaker 3: of feel you getting. Closer i'm, like when is he 497 00:21:49,576 --> 00:21:52,296 Speaker 3: going to get picked? Up and you just buyout, me 498 00:21:52,936 --> 00:21:56,336 Speaker 3: absolutely crush me in my, ribs knock the breath out of, 499 00:21:56,416 --> 00:21:59,176 Speaker 3: me And i'm, like what just? Happened my running back 500 00:21:59,256 --> 00:22:01,656 Speaker 3: was supposed, to which is a mismatch, anyway, right because 501 00:22:01,656 --> 00:22:04,536 Speaker 3: it's a mismatch, league And i'm sitting there going ah 502 00:22:04,696 --> 00:22:07,096 Speaker 3: in my running back comes back and, goes oh my, bad. 503 00:22:07,176 --> 00:22:08,735 Speaker 3: DUDE i went out on the. FLARE i was, like 504 00:22:08,896 --> 00:22:12,096 Speaker 3: he blitzed at the, snap like there was no question 505 00:22:12,176 --> 00:22:13,735 Speaker 3: whether or not he was. Coming he didn't, bluff he 506 00:22:13,735 --> 00:22:16,696 Speaker 3: didn't do. Anything but that was a major strength of 507 00:22:16,776 --> 00:22:20,015 Speaker 3: yours in terms of being a, player in the versatility 508 00:22:20,056 --> 00:22:23,376 Speaker 3: that you had because you could play so many different. Positions, 509 00:22:23,696 --> 00:22:25,896 Speaker 3: yeah WELL i enjoyed it. Too it kept me kind 510 00:22:25,936 --> 00:22:28,376 Speaker 3: of it kept me engage in the. Game you know 511 00:22:28,455 --> 00:22:30,455 Speaker 3: when you line up on one side and you're Always. 512 00:22:30,536 --> 00:22:34,416 Speaker 3: Russian obviously that's WHAT i did very well is obviously you, 513 00:22:34,455 --> 00:22:36,696 Speaker 3: know holding my, edge pursued in the run, game and 514 00:22:36,735 --> 00:22:38,495 Speaker 3: then you, know trying to rush to the. Quarterback but 515 00:22:38,975 --> 00:22:40,975 Speaker 3: when you go inside a couple of years WHEN i 516 00:22:41,016 --> 00:22:43,936 Speaker 3: played inside, linebacker it just it, unlocks you, know a 517 00:22:44,016 --> 00:22:48,136 Speaker 3: little bit of complacency that sometimes sets in when you 518 00:22:48,256 --> 00:22:51,296 Speaker 3: play the same position and repetition kicks. In so for, 519 00:22:51,376 --> 00:22:52,816 Speaker 3: ME i felt that was a great shot BECAUSE i 520 00:22:52,816 --> 00:22:54,136 Speaker 3: know there was times in my career WHERE i was 521 00:22:54,176 --> 00:22:57,136 Speaker 3: Covering Jamal charles out of the. BACKFIELD i was Covering 522 00:22:57,176 --> 00:22:58,536 Speaker 3: gronkowski on a seven. 523 00:22:58,656 --> 00:23:02,336 Speaker 2: Route, Gosh i'm. Blanking why AM i blanking on The 524 00:23:02,416 --> 00:23:04,656 Speaker 2: chiefs tight end right? Now i'd cover him at. Times, 525 00:23:05,735 --> 00:23:08,296 Speaker 2: WOW i was On Tony Travis. KELSEY i. DID i 526 00:23:08,336 --> 00:23:10,096 Speaker 2: did play Against. TONY i need to help with, him but, 527 00:23:10,616 --> 00:23:13,296 Speaker 2: YEAH i mean you, know and Then i'd be lined 528 00:23:13,376 --> 00:23:16,376 Speaker 2: up against, Uh Jason kelsey at center and some of 529 00:23:16,416 --> 00:23:19,656 Speaker 2: the best, tackles AND i think. It, yeah it helped myself, 530 00:23:19,696 --> 00:23:22,496 Speaker 2: out to help the team out and kept me, engaged 531 00:23:22,495 --> 00:23:24,056 Speaker 2: and it was just fun because it was it was something, 532 00:23:24,096 --> 00:23:26,616 Speaker 2: new something. DIFFERENT i took pride in, being, uh being 533 00:23:26,616 --> 00:23:27,056 Speaker 2: able to do it. 534 00:23:27,096 --> 00:23:31,456 Speaker 4: All there's always every draft some body part that isn't 535 00:23:31,495 --> 00:23:34,176 Speaker 4: quite bick. Enough pick it had small. Hands now this, 536 00:23:34,296 --> 00:23:36,656 Speaker 4: year the tackle AT, lsu his arms aren't long, enough, 537 00:23:36,735 --> 00:23:39,816 Speaker 4: Right and SO i spent a few days talking about. 538 00:23:39,896 --> 00:23:42,055 Speaker 4: This you ever have a short arm tackle where you're, 539 00:23:42,056 --> 00:23:43,335 Speaker 4: like we got to go after this guy because he's 540 00:23:43,376 --> 00:23:44,336 Speaker 4: Got tranno source rex. 541 00:23:44,416 --> 00:23:47,215 Speaker 2: Arms, WELL i know the long arm tackles are a. 542 00:23:47,256 --> 00:23:50,136 Speaker 2: PROBLEM i retire In smith just from sc he gave 543 00:23:50,215 --> 00:23:53,416 Speaker 2: me the most. TROUBLE I i THINK i got regular, 544 00:23:53,495 --> 00:23:55,496 Speaker 2: arms But i'd lean in with a one, arm he'd 545 00:23:55,656 --> 00:23:57,936 Speaker 2: slam it. DOWN i go in with a, bullrush he grabbed. 546 00:23:57,975 --> 00:24:00,056 Speaker 2: Me i'll go line up over the right. Tackle but, 547 00:24:00,256 --> 00:24:03,296 Speaker 2: uh now there's. You you do enough film, study and 548 00:24:03,336 --> 00:24:05,816 Speaker 2: your coach does a great breakdown of kind of what. 549 00:24:05,975 --> 00:24:08,296 Speaker 2: Works but for, ME i always found, that you, know 550 00:24:08,656 --> 00:24:11,696 Speaker 2: there's always that feeling out process of going against a 551 00:24:11,816 --> 00:24:14,455 Speaker 2: new tackle or new, linemen and sometimes you can get 552 00:24:14,455 --> 00:24:17,336 Speaker 2: after him right. Away with the real elite, players you, 553 00:24:17,376 --> 00:24:19,535 Speaker 2: know it takes some times and you have your battles against, 554 00:24:19,576 --> 00:24:22,335 Speaker 2: them but NOW i. DON'T i, mean you can sit 555 00:24:22,416 --> 00:24:24,296 Speaker 2: there and look at the. Measurables but not to be, 556 00:24:24,416 --> 00:24:26,896 Speaker 2: cliche but you, know if they got that dog in, 557 00:24:26,975 --> 00:24:29,096 Speaker 2: them then it's, like you, know all's. 558 00:24:29,136 --> 00:24:31,176 Speaker 3: Fair one of the cool things THAT i think we 559 00:24:31,656 --> 00:24:34,215 Speaker 3: talked about over the. Years you're a BIG ufc, Fan oh, 560 00:24:34,296 --> 00:24:37,376 Speaker 3: yeah and so you also implemented that into your training 561 00:24:37,936 --> 00:24:39,776 Speaker 3: over the course of the, Years like you'd go, in you'd, 562 00:24:39,816 --> 00:24:42,656 Speaker 3: grapple you'd. Learn do you think that that type of 563 00:24:42,735 --> 00:24:46,096 Speaker 3: training really carried over into how you played the. Game, 564 00:24:46,215 --> 00:24:48,656 Speaker 3: WELL i, can't especially like the hand battling and all that. 565 00:24:48,735 --> 00:24:51,336 Speaker 2: STUFF i, Mean i'm going to say it didn't, hurt you, 566 00:24:51,416 --> 00:24:55,696 Speaker 2: know it's hard to. Say, yeah it's JUST i definitely 567 00:24:55,696 --> 00:24:58,176 Speaker 2: think it. DID i MEAN i think mentally more than, 568 00:24:58,215 --> 00:25:00,176 Speaker 2: anything BECAUSE i remember the first DAY i went, there 569 00:25:00,215 --> 00:25:01,896 Speaker 2: they asked me to jump rope for three. Minutes my 570 00:25:01,975 --> 00:25:04,696 Speaker 2: calf started locking out because you, know in, football you're 571 00:25:04,735 --> 00:25:07,775 Speaker 2: exploding for you, know six, nine twelve seconds whatever it, 572 00:25:07,936 --> 00:25:10,376 Speaker 2: is and then you get time to to take some time. 573 00:25:10,455 --> 00:25:14,376 Speaker 2: Off but, yeah just kind of, that you, know understanding your, body, grappling, 574 00:25:14,495 --> 00:25:17,656 Speaker 2: handwork you, know swiping all. THAT i definitely think it 575 00:25:17,735 --> 00:25:19,376 Speaker 2: helped in some. Regard BUT i was always trying to 576 00:25:19,416 --> 00:25:21,855 Speaker 2: find an edge in the off, Season i'm, sure much 577 00:25:21,896 --> 00:25:25,816 Speaker 2: like yourself with whether it be boxing or or cycling 578 00:25:25,936 --> 00:25:27,416 Speaker 2: or something like, that just to kind of as you, 579 00:25:27,536 --> 00:25:29,455 Speaker 2: know as you get long in the, tooth is just 580 00:25:29,495 --> 00:25:31,256 Speaker 2: figuring out new ways to take your game to the next, 581 00:25:31,336 --> 00:25:33,015 Speaker 2: level or your conditioning in the off season for that. 582 00:25:33,136 --> 00:25:33,816 Speaker 2: Matter what about? 583 00:25:33,816 --> 00:25:34,896 Speaker 4: Sparring did you spar while? 584 00:25:34,936 --> 00:25:39,495 Speaker 2: Training i'd we had we had a boxing coach and 585 00:25:39,576 --> 00:25:41,215 Speaker 2: we'd sparve me once in a, while but he wouldn't 586 00:25:41,336 --> 00:25:43,176 Speaker 2: he wouldn't allow to throw. Headshots we were allowed to 587 00:25:43,176 --> 00:25:44,576 Speaker 2: throw at, him but then he'd catch you with like 588 00:25:44,616 --> 00:25:46,816 Speaker 2: a liver or body shot and he'd put you. 589 00:25:46,936 --> 00:25:49,176 Speaker 4: Down but did you ever think about TRYING? Ufc? 590 00:25:49,455 --> 00:25:51,735 Speaker 2: No, Mma, NO i just LIKE i like having a 591 00:25:51,776 --> 00:25:54,056 Speaker 2: beer on the couch and yelling about that guy, sucks you, 592 00:25:54,176 --> 00:25:55,495 Speaker 2: know and HOW i lost money on my. 593 00:25:55,616 --> 00:25:58,096 Speaker 3: Bed but you could be the next Brock lessener bro. 594 00:26:00,176 --> 00:26:02,336 Speaker 2: To the, gills you, know And i'm past my. 595 00:26:02,416 --> 00:26:04,936 Speaker 3: PRIME i WOULD i would actually love to see you 596 00:26:05,016 --> 00:26:07,816 Speaker 3: in Knock. Gun who's your favorite fighter right? Now BECAUSE 597 00:26:07,856 --> 00:26:11,696 Speaker 3: i know that you watch this religious you have broken 598 00:26:11,776 --> 00:26:13,336 Speaker 3: off times where we were supposed to go out to 599 00:26:13,376 --> 00:26:15,416 Speaker 3: dinner just because you're, like DID i can't go out. 600 00:26:15,296 --> 00:26:17,336 Speaker 2: To ye On saturday? Night did you watch a card last? 601 00:26:17,336 --> 00:26:20,855 Speaker 2: Week three? FOURTEEN i. Watched i'm loving the Fighting nerds right. 602 00:26:20,896 --> 00:26:21,416 Speaker 2: Now i'm. 603 00:26:21,416 --> 00:26:24,696 Speaker 4: Wanted really was hoping for Chan chandler lives. HERE i 604 00:26:24,816 --> 00:26:24,975 Speaker 4: know he. 605 00:26:25,056 --> 00:26:26,976 Speaker 2: DOES i know he, Does, ADAM i love. 606 00:26:27,056 --> 00:26:29,616 Speaker 4: HIM i was rooting for. Him patty who JUST, Overtok. 607 00:26:29,296 --> 00:26:31,136 Speaker 2: So i've Been i've been Watching patty since he came, 608 00:26:31,215 --> 00:26:33,455 Speaker 2: in and he almost had that he should have lost 609 00:26:33,576 --> 00:26:36,255 Speaker 2: to that. DECISION i don't know what his name, is 610 00:26:36,576 --> 00:26:38,936 Speaker 2: BUT i feel like after that, win he started taking it. 611 00:26:38,975 --> 00:26:41,376 Speaker 2: Seriously And i've watched him AND i saw this, matchup 612 00:26:41,576 --> 00:26:44,656 Speaker 2: AND i didn't think it was gonna be. CLOSE i. 613 00:26:44,696 --> 00:26:47,576 Speaker 2: DIDN'T i didn't see that. Happening AND i Know chandler's 614 00:26:47,616 --> 00:26:50,576 Speaker 2: a great, guy AND i don't mean any you, know, 615 00:26:50,656 --> 00:26:52,576 Speaker 2: disrespect BUT i just Think patty's you, know going to 616 00:26:52,616 --> 00:26:54,936 Speaker 2: the next. Level but the fighting, NERDS i, know next 617 00:26:54,975 --> 00:26:58,536 Speaker 2: week we Got prates And Ian. GARY i think they're 618 00:26:58,696 --> 00:27:02,136 Speaker 2: the hottest thing right. Now, YEAH i LOVE i love 619 00:27:02,215 --> 00:27:05,735 Speaker 2: talking IN ufc and, UH i feel Like i've been watching. 620 00:27:05,776 --> 00:27:09,256 Speaker 2: It so in twenty, nineteen i finished my last year 621 00:27:09,256 --> 00:27:10,936 Speaker 2: In Green, bay So i'm waiting around a, few you, 622 00:27:10,975 --> 00:27:14,176 Speaker 2: know to see what, happens you, know a free, agency 623 00:27:14,176 --> 00:27:16,656 Speaker 2: if they're going to resign. Me and basketball, ended AND 624 00:27:16,776 --> 00:27:20,056 Speaker 2: i was still engaged with basketball AND ufc was the 625 00:27:20,136 --> 00:27:21,616 Speaker 2: only sport that was on at the. Time SO i 626 00:27:21,696 --> 00:27:24,015 Speaker 2: start it was on Every friday Or, saturday and then 627 00:27:24,136 --> 00:27:25,495 Speaker 2: WAS i found that it was on every week AND 628 00:27:25,536 --> 00:27:27,256 Speaker 2: i Found, OKAY i watched this guy he fought about 629 00:27:27,256 --> 00:27:29,416 Speaker 2: three months, ago he's fighting. Again and then everybody has 630 00:27:29,455 --> 00:27:31,896 Speaker 2: a story and it's. GREAT i love. IT i love. 631 00:27:31,936 --> 00:27:32,336 Speaker 2: It what about. 632 00:27:32,336 --> 00:27:34,295 Speaker 4: Wrestling you watch wrestling ever WHEN i was. 633 00:27:34,296 --> 00:27:37,495 Speaker 2: A, kid the attitude, Era But i've i've kind of you, 634 00:27:37,576 --> 00:27:40,736 Speaker 2: KNOW i just my kids just starting to get into 635 00:27:40,776 --> 00:27:42,815 Speaker 2: a little. Bit but myself personally now. 636 00:27:43,376 --> 00:27:46,616 Speaker 4: SEWN i was talking To Sean michaels yesterday like suck. It, 637 00:27:46,856 --> 00:27:49,575 Speaker 4: Yeah and after the, interview buddy of, MINE i were 638 00:27:49,616 --> 00:27:50,816 Speaker 4: talking and we're, like, man we got to do a 639 00:27:50,856 --> 00:27:52,735 Speaker 4: lot of trouble doing what they did because it was 640 00:27:52,816 --> 00:27:53,616 Speaker 4: all suck. 641 00:27:53,455 --> 00:27:56,896 Speaker 2: It and we when we were, Younger, yeah pee wee. Football, 642 00:27:57,176 --> 00:27:59,696 Speaker 2: yeah you'd make a. Tager oh, yeah you know double 643 00:27:59,816 --> 00:28:04,096 Speaker 2: exits over. Them, yeah triple ah talk about. 644 00:28:03,896 --> 00:28:08,616 Speaker 4: Winning The Super bowl the night of the, Win, like 645 00:28:08,696 --> 00:28:13,255 Speaker 4: what what's that party? Like is everybody seemingly goes to different, 646 00:28:13,296 --> 00:28:14,535 Speaker 4: parties has a different kind of. 647 00:28:14,616 --> 00:28:16,616 Speaker 2: Night what was your night? Like? Yeah So Kid rock 648 00:28:17,296 --> 00:28:22,016 Speaker 2: performed at our at our after. Party it was. Cool 649 00:28:22,056 --> 00:28:26,215 Speaker 2: but once, AGAIN i DIDN'T i didn't take advantage of the. 650 00:28:26,296 --> 00:28:28,416 Speaker 2: MOMENT i didn't get there's like one picture of my 651 00:28:28,495 --> 00:28:30,416 Speaker 2: family AND i in the. FIELD i regret, That, yeah, 652 00:28:30,416 --> 00:28:34,416 Speaker 2: Absolutely AND Nfl network asked by doing an, Interview, yeah 653 00:28:34,455 --> 00:28:36,015 Speaker 2: of Course i'll do, It AND i JUST i missed 654 00:28:36,016 --> 00:28:37,775 Speaker 2: out on so, much and the, NATURALLY i just, figured you, 655 00:28:37,776 --> 00:28:39,656 Speaker 2: KNOW i had this immediate success THE, Nflt we're gonna 656 00:28:39,656 --> 00:28:42,176 Speaker 2: do it. Again twenty, eleven we go fifteen and. One you, 657 00:28:42,216 --> 00:28:44,856 Speaker 2: know you, know we lose to The, giants and after 658 00:28:44,896 --> 00:28:46,496 Speaker 2: that point we just had a hard time getting. Back 659 00:28:46,536 --> 00:28:49,776 Speaker 2: we didn't get. Back but to answer your, question it 660 00:28:49,936 --> 00:28:52,936 Speaker 2: was it's all a. Blur BUT i ended up exchanging 661 00:28:53,016 --> 00:28:55,376 Speaker 2: numbers With Kid rock and getting together with him in 662 00:28:55,416 --> 00:28:57,376 Speaker 2: the off, season and just man winning The Super. Bowl 663 00:28:57,536 --> 00:29:00,296 Speaker 2: it just unlocks so much fun stuff and puts you 664 00:29:00,376 --> 00:29:02,056 Speaker 2: on a different echelon of. 665 00:29:03,056 --> 00:29:07,496 Speaker 3: Fame now you're the all time sock leader In Green 666 00:29:07,576 --> 00:29:12,056 Speaker 3: Bay packers. History it's a pretty significant. Deal and when 667 00:29:12,136 --> 00:29:14,536 Speaker 3: you were chasing that and when you became the all 668 00:29:14,656 --> 00:29:17,296 Speaker 3: time sack, leader was that a moment in your career 669 00:29:17,376 --> 00:29:20,216 Speaker 3: that you cherish and that you knew that that that 670 00:29:20,616 --> 00:29:22,896 Speaker 3: was the pinnacle OF i, mean The Green Bay packer 671 00:29:22,976 --> 00:29:26,416 Speaker 3: probably the most storied franchise IN nfl, history and you 672 00:29:26,576 --> 00:29:29,696 Speaker 3: just became the all time sack. Leader it's a pretty monumental. 673 00:29:29,736 --> 00:29:30,256 Speaker 3: Moment it's. 674 00:29:30,296 --> 00:29:33,336 Speaker 2: Cool i'm just Thankful Reggie white didn't play his whole career. 675 00:29:33,416 --> 00:29:36,016 Speaker 2: There he had like you, know one hundred sacks And, 676 00:29:36,096 --> 00:29:39,016 Speaker 2: philly you, know, however thirty in the for The memphis, 677 00:29:39,056 --> 00:29:42,336 Speaker 2: show you, know whatever it. Was but, yeah it's pretty, 678 00:29:42,376 --> 00:29:45,056 Speaker 2: cool especially like you had, mentioned just doing it for 679 00:29:45,096 --> 00:29:50,696 Speaker 2: The packers, organization AND i would in the program they'd 680 00:29:50,736 --> 00:29:54,976 Speaker 2: have like the top five leaders in every statistical, category 681 00:29:55,456 --> 00:29:57,736 Speaker 2: and before the Season i'd always rip out before week 682 00:29:57,816 --> 00:30:00,296 Speaker 2: one it was like sack leaders and it Was Kabir, 683 00:30:00,376 --> 00:30:03,776 Speaker 2: gabaja bive me a Like Aaron campman and, stuff AND 684 00:30:03,816 --> 00:30:05,056 Speaker 2: i had it up there AND i WAS i REMEMBER 685 00:30:05,056 --> 00:30:06,576 Speaker 2: i start to this WHEN i was at like thirty 686 00:30:06,656 --> 00:30:09,056 Speaker 2: sacks AND i ended up getting you know a little over. 687 00:30:09,136 --> 00:30:12,776 Speaker 2: Eighty And i'd ALWAYS i was chasing. IT i was 688 00:30:12,816 --> 00:30:15,656 Speaker 2: always chasing, it AND i always had that in, mind 689 00:30:15,696 --> 00:30:17,256 Speaker 2: and SO i knew WHEN i broke it it was 690 00:30:17,336 --> 00:30:20,176 Speaker 2: it was special and it was just a reflection of you, 691 00:30:20,256 --> 00:30:22,896 Speaker 2: know everything coming full circle and like, you LIKE i, 692 00:30:22,936 --> 00:30:25,216 Speaker 2: said just doing it for that organization was was really. 693 00:30:25,296 --> 00:30:26,816 Speaker 2: Meaningful and then of COURSE i think about all the 694 00:30:26,896 --> 00:30:29,056 Speaker 2: SACKS i missed and the ones where the quarterback got 695 00:30:29,096 --> 00:30:31,216 Speaker 2: the ball off or they threw the ball in the 696 00:30:31,256 --> 00:30:32,296 Speaker 2: dirt and got a grounding. 697 00:30:32,416 --> 00:30:34,336 Speaker 4: Call so but, yeah, man it. 698 00:30:34,416 --> 00:30:36,136 Speaker 2: Was it was fun times playing. 699 00:30:36,216 --> 00:30:53,296 Speaker 4: BALL i haven't played ball your entire, life but also 700 00:30:53,336 --> 00:30:55,256 Speaker 4: your dad and your, Grandpa, like that's a lot of. 701 00:30:55,256 --> 00:30:58,816 Speaker 4: Football whenever you finally stopped, playing was there a time 702 00:30:58,856 --> 00:31:01,336 Speaker 4: where you were trying to figure out who you were 703 00:31:01,416 --> 00:31:03,416 Speaker 4: as a person because it had been so football for so. 704 00:31:03,576 --> 00:31:08,416 Speaker 2: LONG i honestly Think i've been fortunate to be in 705 00:31:08,456 --> 00:31:10,536 Speaker 2: the POSITION i am because growing up in that, family 706 00:31:10,696 --> 00:31:14,256 Speaker 2: watching my dad separate himself from, football he immediately went 707 00:31:14,256 --> 00:31:16,456 Speaker 2: into coaching and raising five, kids and so for, me 708 00:31:17,456 --> 00:31:20,576 Speaker 2: it's been very much the. SAME i thought it was pretty. 709 00:31:20,616 --> 00:31:23,256 Speaker 2: TELLING i signed a two year deal with The. RAMS 710 00:31:23,336 --> 00:31:25,856 Speaker 2: i THOUGHT i played very well in twenty. Nineteen they 711 00:31:26,056 --> 00:31:29,976 Speaker 2: released me after my first. Year seattle And denver solicited, 712 00:31:30,016 --> 00:31:32,656 Speaker 2: offers BUT i had just moved back To california where 713 00:31:32,656 --> 00:31:34,576 Speaker 2: we're going to you, know we built this home and 714 00:31:34,616 --> 00:31:38,296 Speaker 2: we're going to live, there and you, know offseason rolled 715 00:31:38,296 --> 00:31:41,816 Speaker 2: around training camp AND i was eating fatty meats and 716 00:31:42,016 --> 00:31:44,656 Speaker 2: beers in the, back and you, know the offers they 717 00:31:44,696 --> 00:31:46,376 Speaker 2: were coming at me with weren't moving the. Needle AND 718 00:31:46,416 --> 00:31:48,296 Speaker 2: i thought it was pretty. Telling AND i found myself 719 00:31:48,336 --> 00:31:50,576 Speaker 2: becoming more and more involved with the, kids their school, schedule, 720 00:31:50,616 --> 00:31:53,576 Speaker 2: homework you, know helping take the pressure off my wife 721 00:31:53,616 --> 00:31:55,816 Speaker 2: for what she's been sacrificing for so. Long SO i 722 00:31:55,936 --> 00:31:57,976 Speaker 2: felt that pressure more than anything, else and SO i 723 00:31:58,056 --> 00:31:59,176 Speaker 2: knew it WAS i KNEW i was. 724 00:31:59,256 --> 00:32:02,256 Speaker 4: Done never like identity crisis where you're like, no, NO 725 00:32:02,376 --> 00:32:03,496 Speaker 4: i am, no, no AND. 726 00:32:03,576 --> 00:32:05,136 Speaker 2: I think you know we've been So i've been so 727 00:32:05,176 --> 00:32:08,176 Speaker 2: big to you, know coaching them, up building a, home 728 00:32:08,696 --> 00:32:12,216 Speaker 2: moving To, tennessee new. School that for, ME i, mean 729 00:32:12,336 --> 00:32:15,416 Speaker 2: obviously are there times that we, think, HEY i still got, 730 00:32:15,496 --> 00:32:17,736 Speaker 2: IT i could MAYBE i should have kept, playing or 731 00:32:18,336 --> 00:32:21,176 Speaker 2: OR i could still play. Today but for, ME i 732 00:32:21,256 --> 00:32:22,856 Speaker 2: JUST i just FOUND i just kind of slipped into 733 00:32:22,936 --> 00:32:25,536 Speaker 2: dad life and that's kept me busier and probably more 734 00:32:25,576 --> 00:32:29,016 Speaker 2: stressed out than ever playing. Ball so, no no identity. 735 00:32:29,096 --> 00:32:31,096 Speaker 2: Crisis i've had enough things on my plate to Where 736 00:32:31,096 --> 00:32:32,536 Speaker 2: i'm not sitting around with you, know idle. 737 00:32:32,616 --> 00:32:34,256 Speaker 3: Hands what's the biggest part of the game that you 738 00:32:34,376 --> 00:32:35,536 Speaker 3: mess the locker. 739 00:32:35,656 --> 00:32:38,456 Speaker 2: Room it's it's, cliche but just that's WHY i enjoy 740 00:32:38,536 --> 00:32:40,536 Speaker 2: getting together with. You you. Know it's like retelling these 741 00:32:40,536 --> 00:32:44,216 Speaker 2: stories and and just shooting the, breeze you, know because 742 00:32:44,936 --> 00:32:47,736 Speaker 2: it once you go back in a normal society and 743 00:32:47,816 --> 00:32:49,616 Speaker 2: you and you you, know you meet the dads from, 744 00:32:49,736 --> 00:32:51,976 Speaker 2: uh you, know from school and. Whatnot it's just. Different 745 00:32:52,096 --> 00:32:54,136 Speaker 2: it's different that we used to. 746 00:32:54,136 --> 00:32:54,176 Speaker 3: Do. 747 00:32:54,336 --> 00:32:58,296 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely there's no, race, color religion in the locker. 748 00:32:58,376 --> 00:33:01,056 Speaker 2: ROOM i mean it is just. Everyone you take guys 749 00:33:01,136 --> 00:33:05,056 Speaker 2: from Southern california to like the northeast To miami To, 750 00:33:05,656 --> 00:33:07,616 Speaker 2: oregon and you're all working towards a common goal and 751 00:33:07,696 --> 00:33:09,816 Speaker 2: you put everything to the. Side and so some of 752 00:33:09,896 --> 00:33:11,336 Speaker 2: my best friends or guys where you grow. 753 00:33:11,296 --> 00:33:11,696 Speaker 4: Up, LIKE i. 754 00:33:11,696 --> 00:33:13,776 Speaker 2: DON'T i don't know if we would really, click you. 755 00:33:13,936 --> 00:33:16,856 Speaker 2: Know and and that's just so great about the sport 756 00:33:16,896 --> 00:33:19,296 Speaker 2: and Why i'm sure we believe it's it's it's the greatest. 757 00:33:19,336 --> 00:33:23,736 Speaker 2: Sport but, YEAH i mean just the locker. Room, YEAH i. 758 00:33:23,776 --> 00:33:26,016 Speaker 4: Want to ask About Reggie. Bush so you're playing defense 759 00:33:26,056 --> 00:33:28,256 Speaker 4: while he's there as a running. Back you have to 760 00:33:28,416 --> 00:33:29,016 Speaker 4: tackle him in. 761 00:33:29,096 --> 00:33:31,376 Speaker 2: Practice, WELL i wouldn't allowed to tackle. HIM i think 762 00:33:31,456 --> 00:33:33,696 Speaker 2: him And matt got those special gold jersey And matt, 763 00:33:33,736 --> 00:33:36,976 Speaker 2: Sorry Matt lioner got those special but you. 764 00:33:37,016 --> 00:33:38,856 Speaker 3: Get like that they gave me. One BUT i don't 765 00:33:38,896 --> 00:33:41,416 Speaker 3: know if it was fully fully gold got, It like 766 00:33:42,056 --> 00:33:43,776 Speaker 3: if you guys need to hit a. Quarterback hit. 767 00:33:43,896 --> 00:33:48,136 Speaker 2: Castle, Now reggie Was reggie was good to me as, 768 00:33:48,176 --> 00:33:54,176 Speaker 2: Well but, yeah he. Was he was dynamic and just 769 00:33:54,736 --> 00:33:56,855 Speaker 2: just built like a. Man you, know like in, college 770 00:33:56,936 --> 00:33:58,936 Speaker 2: everybody's coming into their own you, know you got big. 771 00:33:59,016 --> 00:34:01,856 Speaker 2: Guys but just he was on a different. Level and 772 00:34:02,136 --> 00:34:04,656 Speaker 2: he showed that weekend and wake out AND i mean 773 00:34:04,696 --> 00:34:07,336 Speaker 2: OBVIOUSLY i. Didn't you, KNOW i can't speak On Barry 774 00:34:07,416 --> 00:34:09,816 Speaker 2: sanders at his time in college and greatest you know, 775 00:34:10,496 --> 00:34:12,136 Speaker 2: players but he. Are he's in the. 776 00:34:12,216 --> 00:34:16,136 Speaker 4: CONVERSATION i, think to, me he's the greatest running Back 777 00:34:16,176 --> 00:34:16,456 Speaker 4: i've ever. 778 00:34:16,496 --> 00:34:18,056 Speaker 2: Seen, YEAH i MEAN i was on the sideline like 779 00:34:18,176 --> 00:34:21,776 Speaker 2: for The fresno, Game Fresno, state like JUST i mean 780 00:34:21,856 --> 00:34:23,696 Speaker 2: Watching it's just it's remarkable all the. Time you just 781 00:34:23,736 --> 00:34:25,856 Speaker 2: take it for, granted you, know especially those teams as. Well, 782 00:34:25,936 --> 00:34:27,936 Speaker 2: REALLY i, mean how many first round draft picks guys 783 00:34:27,936 --> 00:34:30,976 Speaker 2: who went onto THE. Nfl just the offensive, line The 784 00:34:31,096 --> 00:34:32,296 Speaker 2: Heisman trophy, winners just. 785 00:34:32,376 --> 00:34:35,856 Speaker 3: Remarkable last, year you were inducted into The Green Bay 786 00:34:35,896 --> 00:34:38,335 Speaker 3: hall Of. Fame that had to be a pretty cool 787 00:34:38,416 --> 00:34:40,416 Speaker 3: experience for you your family to go back to be. 788 00:34:40,536 --> 00:34:42,976 Speaker 3: Celebrated talk a little bit about that. Day and what 789 00:34:43,856 --> 00:34:44,976 Speaker 3: everything that you went through on that. 790 00:34:45,096 --> 00:34:46,976 Speaker 2: Day, WELL i don't know about, you but you, know 791 00:34:47,616 --> 00:34:49,696 Speaker 2: anytime a team decides to move, on for, me there's 792 00:34:49,736 --> 00:34:52,856 Speaker 2: that human. Element i'm, like they don't know what they're. 793 00:34:52,896 --> 00:34:55,096 Speaker 2: Missing it's just it's. Natural it's it's you, know it's 794 00:34:55,496 --> 00:34:58,656 Speaker 2: it's our, insecurities it's. Whatever so going back there and 795 00:34:58,736 --> 00:35:00,616 Speaker 2: bringing my kids back there at a point where they're 796 00:35:00,616 --> 00:35:03,456 Speaker 2: not little babies and they could appreciate, EVERYTHING i remember them. Well, 797 00:35:03,456 --> 00:35:06,136 Speaker 2: actually my wife told me they walked into The Packers 798 00:35:06,216 --> 00:35:07,816 Speaker 2: pro shop and there were some like shirts of me. 799 00:35:07,936 --> 00:35:09,776 Speaker 2: On it fled my youngest like picked it up and 800 00:35:09,856 --> 00:35:12,056 Speaker 2: he was in, bear you, know because it just you, 801 00:35:12,136 --> 00:35:13,576 Speaker 2: Know i'm just dad to, them you, KNOW i JUST 802 00:35:13,616 --> 00:35:14,936 Speaker 2: i don't have a. JOB i just sit on the, 803 00:35:14,976 --> 00:35:17,656 Speaker 2: couch you, Know i'm that dad to. Them but it 804 00:35:17,776 --> 00:35:20,576 Speaker 2: was pretty. Cool and then the ceremony was. Phenomenal and 805 00:35:20,776 --> 00:35:25,256 Speaker 2: getting back to that locker, room the amount of former 806 00:35:25,296 --> 00:35:29,256 Speaker 2: teammates that showed up was remarkable and it was just 807 00:35:29,416 --> 00:35:31,896 Speaker 2: it was it was. AWESOME i thoroughly enjoyed my time 808 00:35:31,976 --> 00:35:34,416 Speaker 2: In Green. Bay couldn't have asked for a better organization 809 00:35:34,496 --> 00:35:36,616 Speaker 2: to go to the success we had the PLAYERS i was, 810 00:35:36,696 --> 00:35:40,456 Speaker 2: with the place to raise a. FAMILY i, mean there's 811 00:35:40,496 --> 00:35:43,336 Speaker 2: just something About wisconsin that all forever hold close to 812 00:35:43,416 --> 00:35:44,736 Speaker 2: my heart AND i love WHEN i get to go back. 813 00:35:44,736 --> 00:35:46,176 Speaker 2: There i'll actually be back there for the draft as 814 00:35:46,216 --> 00:35:49,976 Speaker 2: a matter of, Fact so but it's it's. AWESOME i love. 815 00:35:50,016 --> 00:35:52,136 Speaker 4: It from What i've learned about you from other folks 816 00:35:52,256 --> 00:35:54,376 Speaker 4: that know, you you're a pretty studious. PLAYER i mean you're. 817 00:35:54,816 --> 00:35:56,256 Speaker 4: Studying you had played a lot of, places so you 818 00:35:56,296 --> 00:35:58,496 Speaker 4: needed to know a lot of the. Players you need 819 00:35:58,536 --> 00:36:01,456 Speaker 4: to know a lot of. Formations but what quarterback did 820 00:36:01,536 --> 00:36:03,976 Speaker 4: that back to you that knew everything you were, doing 821 00:36:04,096 --> 00:36:05,856 Speaker 4: just as you were almost doing everything they were. 822 00:36:05,896 --> 00:36:08,456 Speaker 2: Doing. Yeah, WELL i had the hardest time getting After Drew. 823 00:36:08,496 --> 00:36:10,936 Speaker 2: BREES i mean he just Was he was so calculated 824 00:36:10,976 --> 00:36:13,096 Speaker 2: with where he was. Going we played Because peyton was 825 00:36:13,096 --> 00:36:14,616 Speaker 2: in THE. AFC i think we played him once when 826 00:36:14,616 --> 00:36:16,456 Speaker 2: he was With denver and he just think we were 827 00:36:16,496 --> 00:36:18,136 Speaker 2: six and oh they were, six and oh he shredded. 828 00:36:18,256 --> 00:36:20,856 Speaker 2: Us But Drew brees just being in THE, nfc the 829 00:36:20,976 --> 00:36:23,336 Speaker 2: top of THE, nfc you know one you guys always 830 00:36:23,336 --> 00:36:25,176 Speaker 2: played each other and it was always, fun you, know 831 00:36:25,336 --> 00:36:28,776 Speaker 2: Like Aaron rodgers Versus, breeze BUT i just and then 832 00:36:28,816 --> 00:36:31,296 Speaker 2: they had Like bush rod and some of these guys 833 00:36:31,336 --> 00:36:32,936 Speaker 2: WHO i JUST i had the hardest time Get AND 834 00:36:32,976 --> 00:36:34,776 Speaker 2: i REMEMBER i finally sacked WHEN i pushed him, off 835 00:36:34,976 --> 00:36:37,096 Speaker 2: like as IF i was mad BECAUSE i finally got to. 836 00:36:37,216 --> 00:36:39,896 Speaker 2: Him but he was a. Stud all the guys you hear, 837 00:36:39,896 --> 00:36:43,656 Speaker 2: ABOUT i mean you when you get to THE. Nfl 838 00:36:43,736 --> 00:36:45,896 Speaker 2: you see these guys Like Charles woodson and stuff when 839 00:36:45,896 --> 00:36:49,056 Speaker 2: they're hanging around the, Facility so five six o'clock and you're, 840 00:36:49,136 --> 00:36:51,016 Speaker 2: young and you're just you're out of, there and now 841 00:36:51,056 --> 00:36:52,856 Speaker 2: that's ninety five percent of the locker? Room does? That 842 00:36:53,296 --> 00:36:55,616 Speaker 2: you see the guys who hang, around you, know take 843 00:36:55,656 --> 00:36:57,656 Speaker 2: care of their bodies who were in the film. Room you're, like, 844 00:36:57,776 --> 00:37:00,576 Speaker 2: OH i get why he's. Good he puts in the 845 00:37:00,656 --> 00:37:02,856 Speaker 2: extra time and and those guys Like breeze and them 846 00:37:03,056 --> 00:37:06,176 Speaker 2: are obviously they've earned every thing because of what they 847 00:37:06,216 --> 00:37:06,576 Speaker 2: gave to the. 848 00:37:06,656 --> 00:37:08,736 Speaker 3: Game do you think you learned a lot being on 849 00:37:08,816 --> 00:37:11,336 Speaker 3: the opposite side Of Aaron rodgers because he's one of 850 00:37:11,376 --> 00:37:13,736 Speaker 3: the greats of all time in my opinion in terms 851 00:37:13,776 --> 00:37:17,896 Speaker 3: of quarterback. Play but you know the old phrase iron sharpens, 852 00:37:17,936 --> 00:37:20,136 Speaker 3: Iron but you got to go and see his greatness 853 00:37:20,256 --> 00:37:22,216 Speaker 3: day in and day. Out talk to us a little 854 00:37:22,216 --> 00:37:25,016 Speaker 3: bit about him as a player and what he brought 855 00:37:25,056 --> 00:37:27,896 Speaker 3: to that team as a, leader and also just what 856 00:37:28,056 --> 00:37:28,976 Speaker 3: you saw on a day to day. 857 00:37:29,016 --> 00:37:29,336 Speaker 4: Basis. 858 00:37:29,656 --> 00:37:31,336 Speaker 2: Yeah, well first, OFF i don't THINK i. EVER i 859 00:37:31,456 --> 00:37:34,736 Speaker 2: might have jumped off side once in my eleven year 860 00:37:34,816 --> 00:37:37,416 Speaker 2: career because of going Against aaron every day in. Practice 861 00:37:37,496 --> 00:37:41,416 Speaker 2: just the hard counter, hard so. Good and then it 862 00:37:41,496 --> 00:37:43,776 Speaker 2: finally towards the latter part of my career In Green, 863 00:37:43,856 --> 00:37:46,056 Speaker 2: bay he would go on. Four you always said it 864 00:37:46,096 --> 00:37:49,296 Speaker 2: was either you, know a silent you, know nia, one, two, 865 00:37:49,376 --> 00:37:52,176 Speaker 2: three and then it was, three and, man the clock's 866 00:37:52,176 --> 00:37:54,736 Speaker 2: already at zero at that. Point but just such a. 867 00:37:54,776 --> 00:37:56,896 Speaker 2: STUD i remember early in my career it was my rookie. 868 00:37:56,976 --> 00:37:58,456 Speaker 2: YEAR i had to carry the tight end on a 869 00:37:58,496 --> 00:38:01,296 Speaker 2: seam and had my hand up in perfect. Position he 870 00:38:02,056 --> 00:38:03,816 Speaker 2: put it right through, me and you just you kind of, 871 00:38:03,936 --> 00:38:06,176 Speaker 2: laugh you, know you laugh because obviously in a game 872 00:38:06,216 --> 00:38:08,536 Speaker 2: that it just it won't. Happen like you're not gonna 873 00:38:08,536 --> 00:38:10,776 Speaker 2: play against a better quarterback who can put the ball 874 00:38:11,376 --> 00:38:13,936 Speaker 2: right where it needs to. Be and, YEAH i MEAN 875 00:38:13,976 --> 00:38:16,696 Speaker 2: i Love. AARON i love everything about. HIM i, love 876 00:38:17,296 --> 00:38:20,056 Speaker 2: uh the mystique around, him And i'm so FORTUNATE i 877 00:38:20,296 --> 00:38:23,496 Speaker 2: wouldn't have the success and the platform THAT i got 878 00:38:23,656 --> 00:38:25,496 Speaker 2: IF i, wasn't you, know with, him we would in 879 00:38:25,576 --> 00:38:28,216 Speaker 2: the Super bowl that. Year so, yeah he's a. STUD 880 00:38:28,296 --> 00:38:30,536 Speaker 2: i love, him And i'm interested to see what happens next. 881 00:38:30,576 --> 00:38:31,296 Speaker 3: YEAR i think he's gonna. 882 00:38:31,296 --> 00:38:33,176 Speaker 4: PLAY i don't. 883 00:38:33,216 --> 00:38:35,736 Speaker 2: KNOW i thought for sure he was gonna sign With, 884 00:38:35,936 --> 00:38:39,856 Speaker 2: pittsburgh you, know and then nothing's happening right. Now try 885 00:38:39,896 --> 00:38:40,976 Speaker 2: to Say Costa rica. 886 00:38:40,896 --> 00:38:42,656 Speaker 4: Just put him on the clock, though with their, like, 887 00:38:42,736 --> 00:38:45,296 Speaker 4: hey if you don't, sign we're gonna probably go Get, 888 00:38:45,816 --> 00:38:47,296 Speaker 4: yeah but it kind of had that little. 889 00:38:47,096 --> 00:38:50,016 Speaker 2: Deal, Here, yeah If aaron wants to play and you 890 00:38:50,096 --> 00:38:52,296 Speaker 2: know they'll take, him you can sit here and oh 891 00:38:52,336 --> 00:38:53,856 Speaker 2: we're gonna. Play we're gonna be a hard. Ass but, 892 00:38:53,976 --> 00:38:56,176 Speaker 2: like he still got. IT i watched him last year 893 00:38:56,176 --> 00:38:57,616 Speaker 2: and you actually look at his, STATS i, know the 894 00:38:57,736 --> 00:39:01,176 Speaker 2: narrative of everything else that goes on around, him BUT i, mean. 895 00:39:01,776 --> 00:39:02,456 Speaker 4: He still got. 896 00:39:02,536 --> 00:39:04,816 Speaker 2: It the, team The jets just looked a. LITTLE i 897 00:39:04,896 --> 00:39:06,736 Speaker 2: mean it was hard to watch him last. Year the 898 00:39:06,856 --> 00:39:09,216 Speaker 2: yes that, is BUT i still think he's got. It 899 00:39:09,336 --> 00:39:11,696 Speaker 2: but at this, point LIKE i don't. Care he's forty 900 00:39:11,736 --> 00:39:13,776 Speaker 2: something years. Old he's done it all four, TIME. Mvp 901 00:39:13,856 --> 00:39:16,256 Speaker 2: if he wants to walk away or you, know do 902 00:39:16,376 --> 00:39:17,976 Speaker 2: whatever it is that he wants to, do, like more 903 00:39:18,016 --> 00:39:18,416 Speaker 2: power to. 904 00:39:18,536 --> 00:39:36,056 Speaker 4: Him That achilles, injury though it seems to be the 905 00:39:36,296 --> 00:39:39,416 Speaker 4: worst injury when it comes to coming back at a 906 00:39:39,536 --> 00:39:41,496 Speaker 4: reasonable and a reasonable amount of, Time when it's a 907 00:39:41,576 --> 00:39:44,496 Speaker 4: leg injury like aco, hamstring all all of it. Sucks 908 00:39:44,576 --> 00:39:47,056 Speaker 4: right That, achilles and that's what he was dealing with right. 909 00:39:47,176 --> 00:39:50,056 Speaker 4: Him cousins had. It it seems to take about a 910 00:39:50,136 --> 00:39:53,056 Speaker 4: season and a, half even at a rapid. Rate AND 911 00:39:53,176 --> 00:39:55,016 Speaker 4: i think that's part of the reason he started to 912 00:39:55,016 --> 00:39:58,216 Speaker 4: play better the second half of last year is BECAUSE 913 00:39:58,256 --> 00:39:59,976 Speaker 4: i think it takes a. Minute do you ever have 914 00:40:00,016 --> 00:40:01,216 Speaker 4: An achilles injury at? All? Anything? 915 00:40:01,336 --> 00:40:03,056 Speaker 2: NO i was fortunate AND i got a had A 916 00:40:03,256 --> 00:40:06,056 Speaker 2: i got a labor a significant labor w tear THAT 917 00:40:06,176 --> 00:40:08,616 Speaker 2: i need to get, fixed got little arthritis in my 918 00:40:08,736 --> 00:40:10,456 Speaker 2: left and he had surgery on my right. Thumb BUT 919 00:40:10,536 --> 00:40:15,056 Speaker 2: i fortunately never nothing too severe that that put me on. 920 00:40:15,176 --> 00:40:18,536 Speaker 2: Ir such good. NEWS i was actually when you said 921 00:40:18,576 --> 00:40:21,096 Speaker 2: that as far As, achilles do you Remember Adrian peterson's 922 00:40:21,176 --> 00:40:24,456 Speaker 2: Year he came. Back we played him obviously for a. 923 00:40:24,496 --> 00:40:27,296 Speaker 2: Week he's my, like one of my favorite players ever 924 00:40:27,336 --> 00:40:29,376 Speaker 2: PLAYING i just got you knew he was gonna rush 925 00:40:29,376 --> 00:40:31,616 Speaker 2: for at least one, hundred probably, two and you just 926 00:40:31,736 --> 00:40:33,736 Speaker 2: tried your best to get. Him he was such a 927 00:40:33,816 --> 00:40:36,256 Speaker 2: great guy, Too LIKE i don't, KNOW i have such 928 00:40:36,336 --> 00:40:37,856 Speaker 2: fun memories of like you, KNOW i was, like, oh 929 00:40:37,896 --> 00:40:40,416 Speaker 2: you most hate, Him LIKE i just, DUDE i LOVE 930 00:40:40,616 --> 00:40:43,056 Speaker 2: i love playing against like the, best you, know not 931 00:40:43,136 --> 00:40:45,256 Speaker 2: to say like OBVIOUSLY i want to, win but LIKE 932 00:40:45,296 --> 00:40:47,216 Speaker 2: i love playing against events and the, best And i'm 933 00:40:47,256 --> 00:40:48,576 Speaker 2: just in awe like what they're able to do for 934 00:40:48,656 --> 00:40:50,976 Speaker 2: him to rush for two thousand yards or whatever it, 935 00:40:51,136 --> 00:40:54,376 Speaker 2: was fortunately stopped him like six. Yards. Shy, yes you 936 00:40:54,456 --> 00:40:55,976 Speaker 2: know were not getting that. 937 00:40:56,136 --> 00:41:00,376 Speaker 3: Record but have you ever have you ever shook his? Hand? Yeah, 938 00:41:00,536 --> 00:41:02,776 Speaker 3: yeah it's the most amazing Handshake i've ever had in 939 00:41:02,816 --> 00:41:04,976 Speaker 3: MY i can't remember terms of it just makes you 940 00:41:05,016 --> 00:41:07,456 Speaker 3: feel like less of a man because it is such 941 00:41:07,576 --> 00:41:10,656 Speaker 3: a strong, grip like he comes in and put it 942 00:41:10,696 --> 00:41:11,216 Speaker 3: here in the old. 943 00:41:11,296 --> 00:41:14,776 Speaker 2: VICE i just we played Against. Age were you you 944 00:41:14,816 --> 00:41:18,056 Speaker 2: were on that twenty Fourteen? Yeah NO usc? Team, Sorry oh, 945 00:41:18,576 --> 00:41:21,696 Speaker 2: Yes Adrian Peterson when we Played Adrian peterson in The 946 00:41:21,736 --> 00:41:24,056 Speaker 2: Orange bowl and they were just running like a, horse 947 00:41:24,096 --> 00:41:24,536 Speaker 2: and SO i have. 948 00:41:25,336 --> 00:41:26,776 Speaker 3: Too he was a fall, white all white. 949 00:41:26,856 --> 00:41:31,496 Speaker 2: Jo it's like just massive legs and probably no. Socks just, 950 00:41:31,656 --> 00:41:32,696 Speaker 2: yeah just a freak of. 951 00:41:32,816 --> 00:41:33,056 Speaker 3: Nature. 952 00:41:33,136 --> 00:41:35,816 Speaker 2: Yeah but, anyways WELL i was a big fan of. 953 00:41:35,896 --> 00:41:37,296 Speaker 2: His SO i remember at The Pro bowl when he 954 00:41:37,616 --> 00:41:40,176 Speaker 2: shakes my hand and MAYBE i looked past how. Strong 955 00:41:40,256 --> 00:41:42,176 Speaker 2: it was, like, hey can my son take a picture with? 956 00:41:42,376 --> 00:41:43,536 Speaker 3: Us what you? 957 00:41:43,616 --> 00:41:46,336 Speaker 2: KNOW i was, LIKE i felt so. Flattered, yeah BUT 958 00:41:47,456 --> 00:41:50,096 Speaker 2: i love. Ap he's a. Dog what are you doing? 959 00:41:50,176 --> 00:41:51,976 Speaker 4: Now do you still have any sort of competitive spirit 960 00:41:52,016 --> 00:41:53,016 Speaker 4: in you where you have to fill? 961 00:41:53,096 --> 00:41:57,416 Speaker 2: That i'll tell you. What so last, year my five year, 962 00:41:57,456 --> 00:42:01,736 Speaker 2: old my, youngest he was playing flag. Football SO i 963 00:42:01,856 --> 00:42:05,296 Speaker 2: offered a coach and you, Know i'm over, HERE i, 964 00:42:05,576 --> 00:42:07,496 Speaker 2: home a'm bitch and they can play in a five 965 00:42:07,616 --> 00:42:09,696 Speaker 2: year Olds we don't. Fall we won our first game 966 00:42:09,776 --> 00:42:12,456 Speaker 2: like thirty three thirty, one AND i just was so fired. 967 00:42:12,536 --> 00:42:15,216 Speaker 2: UP i told my. WIFE i was, LIKE i get 968 00:42:15,296 --> 00:42:17,256 Speaker 2: why people go back into, coaching because if you can't 969 00:42:17,256 --> 00:42:20,376 Speaker 2: do it, physically but you have all this this wealth 970 00:42:20,416 --> 00:42:22,056 Speaker 2: of knowledge as you get, older and you just want 971 00:42:22,056 --> 00:42:23,656 Speaker 2: to pass it on to. Something you just want to 972 00:42:23,696 --> 00:42:25,416 Speaker 2: give it to somebody because you have so much to. 973 00:42:25,536 --> 00:42:27,696 Speaker 2: Give and So i'm finding That i'm doing that with 974 00:42:27,776 --> 00:42:30,576 Speaker 2: my children in, sports specifically my youngest and flag. Football 975 00:42:30,616 --> 00:42:33,296 Speaker 2: so we're we ran the table last. Year we're four 976 00:42:33,336 --> 00:42:35,056 Speaker 2: and oh this, year SO i GOT i got play 977 00:42:35,136 --> 00:42:38,176 Speaker 2: cards drawn, up. Laminated on game, day we're, yeah you're. 978 00:42:38,256 --> 00:42:40,776 Speaker 2: Serious oh. Yeah the kids keep. CONTAINING i try and 979 00:42:40,816 --> 00:42:44,096 Speaker 2: explain to, them, like don't give up. Contain BUT i 980 00:42:44,176 --> 00:42:46,096 Speaker 2: will say this, like, Yeah i'm one of those. Guys 981 00:42:46,136 --> 00:42:47,856 Speaker 2: but the kids all have a, blast AND i make 982 00:42:47,896 --> 00:42:49,496 Speaker 2: sure we have. Fun i'm not one of, those you, 983 00:42:49,576 --> 00:42:52,256 Speaker 2: know sports. Dads Or it's like because we played a 984 00:42:52,296 --> 00:42:54,176 Speaker 2: team my first, year they were blitzing every. Play we're 985 00:42:54,216 --> 00:42:56,256 Speaker 2: down like forty some. NOTHING i just bit my time 986 00:42:56,296 --> 00:42:58,696 Speaker 2: and be, like, hey you, know nice. Sportsmanship i'm over here, like, 987 00:42:58,776 --> 00:43:00,696 Speaker 2: hey don't grab this guy's. Flag let them. Score you. 988 00:43:00,776 --> 00:43:02,256 Speaker 2: Know SO i like to THINK i still got a 989 00:43:02,296 --> 00:43:02,576 Speaker 2: heart in. 990 00:43:02,656 --> 00:43:05,856 Speaker 3: There now does your son actually listened to? 991 00:43:05,896 --> 00:43:09,376 Speaker 2: You, Yeah but the problem with my kids is they're so. 992 00:43:09,616 --> 00:43:12,216 Speaker 2: COMPETITIVE i see your kids at school and they're just, 993 00:43:12,296 --> 00:43:15,136 Speaker 2: finah they're so his kids are so nice and well 994 00:43:15,176 --> 00:43:16,216 Speaker 2: BE i think that's the ultimate. 995 00:43:16,296 --> 00:43:20,736 Speaker 4: Compliment so ultimate, Minders like like anybody's like he has 996 00:43:20,816 --> 00:43:24,496 Speaker 4: the most well mannered, Children matt. Does, yeah and he's 997 00:43:24,536 --> 00:43:26,056 Speaker 4: the exact. Option like he spits on the. FLOOR i 998 00:43:26,096 --> 00:43:26,776 Speaker 4: don't know where they get, it. 999 00:43:26,776 --> 00:43:28,936 Speaker 2: But he's got he's got. One he's got one boy 1000 00:43:29,056 --> 00:43:31,336 Speaker 2: who's got a sparkle in his, eye and he always 1001 00:43:31,376 --> 00:43:34,696 Speaker 2: comes up to me and talks to. Me, yeah he's like, yeah, 1002 00:43:34,776 --> 00:43:36,416 Speaker 2: yeah he's got a son Named, clay and he's LIKE 1003 00:43:36,496 --> 00:43:39,256 Speaker 2: i Watched Bitch perfect, too you, know like he's just 1004 00:43:39,976 --> 00:43:42,816 Speaker 2: HE'S i Think i'm friends with more of the kids 1005 00:43:42,896 --> 00:43:44,896 Speaker 2: at the school THAN i am the parents, there just 1006 00:43:44,936 --> 00:43:47,976 Speaker 2: because they're they're they're at that great. Age but, yeah my, 1007 00:43:48,096 --> 00:43:52,296 Speaker 2: kids they THEY i never listened to my father, too 1008 00:43:52,376 --> 00:43:54,096 Speaker 2: like always put up a what does he? 1009 00:43:54,296 --> 00:43:54,536 Speaker 4: Know you? 1010 00:43:54,576 --> 00:43:56,176 Speaker 2: KNOW i JUST i was that kind of type of. 1011 00:43:56,296 --> 00:43:58,936 Speaker 2: Kid and they're so competitive. Though if they can't get 1012 00:43:58,976 --> 00:44:03,496 Speaker 2: something right, away they're at, school, work, homework, gymnastics, dance, 1013 00:44:03,656 --> 00:44:06,496 Speaker 2: football like they're just they're like melt. DOWN i used 1014 00:44:06,536 --> 00:44:09,776 Speaker 2: to be the apparently this kid's. Awful he's so But i'm, like, 1015 00:44:09,896 --> 00:44:12,656 Speaker 2: no it's it's because they. Care it's because they. CARE 1016 00:44:12,736 --> 00:44:14,536 Speaker 2: i was the same. Way so if you can focus 1017 00:44:14,736 --> 00:44:18,856 Speaker 2: that energy into a positive then it'll take you to great. 1018 00:44:18,896 --> 00:44:20,815 Speaker 2: Places but don't let. It you, know you can't. Quit 1019 00:44:21,256 --> 00:44:23,376 Speaker 2: you gotta you, know stick with. It So i'm always 1020 00:44:23,456 --> 00:44:26,496 Speaker 2: having those battles like stop crying all the, time you, 1021 00:44:26,576 --> 00:44:28,376 Speaker 2: know but, listen you got other kids who are out 1022 00:44:28,376 --> 00:44:29,976 Speaker 2: there are just happy to be, there whereas my kids, like, 1023 00:44:30,016 --> 00:44:31,416 Speaker 2: no we want to win one hundred and. Nothing So 1024 00:44:31,576 --> 00:44:35,496 Speaker 2: i'm trying to navigate that parenting that that fatherly advice of, 1025 00:44:35,656 --> 00:44:38,496 Speaker 2: like let's, win but let's also have fun and let's be, 1026 00:44:38,616 --> 00:44:41,855 Speaker 2: great but let's. Not it's it's okay to, lose but don't, 1027 00:44:41,896 --> 00:44:44,336 Speaker 2: lose you, Know i'm it's it's a struggle. Parent did 1028 00:44:44,376 --> 00:44:45,136 Speaker 2: you ever go to a sports? 1029 00:44:45,176 --> 00:44:48,576 Speaker 4: PSYCHOLOGIST i never, did because that's the THING A matt 1030 00:44:48,576 --> 00:44:49,256 Speaker 4: AND i were talking about. 1031 00:44:49,296 --> 00:44:49,776 Speaker 2: This yeah. 1032 00:44:51,656 --> 00:44:53,576 Speaker 4: That is an option. Now, YEAH i think mental health 1033 00:44:53,576 --> 00:44:56,336 Speaker 4: is a bigger deal now than it was when we were, 1034 00:44:56,416 --> 00:45:00,656 Speaker 4: younger just in. General and DID nfl teams even provide? 1035 00:45:00,696 --> 00:45:02,176 Speaker 4: Them did you choose not to go or did you 1036 00:45:02,256 --> 00:45:03,216 Speaker 4: just they were they weren't. 1037 00:45:03,256 --> 00:45:05,136 Speaker 2: There they might have offered it up like my last 1038 00:45:05,456 --> 00:45:09,136 Speaker 2: year or, two AND i don't you, know if you 1039 00:45:09,216 --> 00:45:11,976 Speaker 2: need to see, one that's. Fine i've got no beliefs 1040 00:45:12,016 --> 00:45:13,616 Speaker 2: one way or the other on. THAT i just felt 1041 00:45:13,696 --> 00:45:16,776 Speaker 2: LIKE i WAS i was, SHARP i was, THERE i 1042 00:45:16,816 --> 00:45:19,336 Speaker 2: knew WHAT i needed to get, done AND i had 1043 00:45:19,376 --> 00:45:22,496 Speaker 2: a you, know my father at, home who you, know 1044 00:45:22,536 --> 00:45:25,816 Speaker 2: always i'd have those calls with, him you. KNOW i 1045 00:45:25,856 --> 00:45:28,016 Speaker 2: remember we lost my rookie year went four and. Four 1046 00:45:28,056 --> 00:45:30,496 Speaker 2: we lost to THE o and Seven creams to Call 1047 00:45:30,576 --> 00:45:33,896 Speaker 2: Tampa Bay bucks And Josh, freeman AND i Remember Kevin, 1048 00:45:33,936 --> 00:45:36,936 Speaker 2: green my coach has since. Passed HE'S i lost contained 1049 00:45:36,976 --> 00:45:39,856 Speaker 2: and he leans in my ear goes you lose contain 1050 00:45:40,016 --> 00:45:43,656 Speaker 2: one more time like he was he wrestled For it 1051 00:45:43,776 --> 00:45:45,416 Speaker 2: was Like i'm sitting in your ass And i'm just 1052 00:45:45,536 --> 00:45:48,416 Speaker 2: like just, hot fired. Up SO i called my dad 1053 00:45:48,576 --> 00:45:51,016 Speaker 2: like that, night and, he'said all, right here's what you 1054 00:45:51,136 --> 00:45:53,376 Speaker 2: need to, do you, Know so just a LITTLE, X 1055 00:45:53,456 --> 00:45:55,576 Speaker 2: y AND z next, week rip off two sacks Like 1056 00:45:55,656 --> 00:46:00,136 Speaker 2: Monday Night, football the THE nfc defensive player that. Week yeah, 1057 00:46:00,216 --> 00:46:01,936 Speaker 2: know like one of those is just like always trying 1058 00:46:01,976 --> 00:46:04,336 Speaker 2: to to prove. Myself BUT i went off on a. 1059 00:46:04,376 --> 00:46:05,336 Speaker 2: TANGENT i forget what the question. 1060 00:46:05,536 --> 00:46:05,576 Speaker 3: Was. 1061 00:46:05,736 --> 00:46:08,256 Speaker 4: Now it's just like going to a sports, like oh, yeah, 1062 00:46:08,296 --> 00:46:09,616 Speaker 4: NO i mean like you had one in your family, 1063 00:46:09,696 --> 00:46:11,176 Speaker 4: though if you're exactly, yeah. 1064 00:46:11,016 --> 00:46:12,296 Speaker 2: That's WHAT i. MEAN i always had somebody to talk, 1065 00:46:12,336 --> 00:46:14,176 Speaker 2: to and LIKE i JUST i grew up around, it 1066 00:46:14,256 --> 00:46:15,896 Speaker 2: so to, me like nothing was. New you knew the, 1067 00:46:15,936 --> 00:46:18,336 Speaker 2: pitfalls you knew the, traps you knew what was, expected 1068 00:46:18,376 --> 00:46:19,496 Speaker 2: you knew what you had to do in the off, 1069 00:46:19,576 --> 00:46:22,296 Speaker 2: season LIKE i NEVER i knew to stay away from you, know, 1070 00:46:22,816 --> 00:46:25,696 Speaker 2: drugs alcohol. Partying LIKE i was very straight edge AND 1071 00:46:25,776 --> 00:46:29,496 Speaker 2: i was focused because my definition of success was when 1072 00:46:29,536 --> 00:46:32,136 Speaker 2: you went to a stadium and everyone was wearing your, 1073 00:46:32,216 --> 00:46:34,496 Speaker 2: jersey cheer and your, name doing your sack, celebration and 1074 00:46:34,536 --> 00:46:36,776 Speaker 2: when you went to the opponents and they were booing, 1075 00:46:36,856 --> 00:46:39,256 Speaker 2: you you, Know and that's that's what was fun to, 1076 00:46:39,376 --> 00:46:41,496 Speaker 2: me the accolades that came along with, it and that 1077 00:46:41,576 --> 00:46:43,376 Speaker 2: meant you had to work hard and you, know kind 1078 00:46:43,416 --> 00:46:46,136 Speaker 2: of stay. Straight but you, KNOW i think it worked. 1079 00:46:46,136 --> 00:46:48,816 Speaker 3: Out it was a mental still. TRAP i definitely saw sports. 1080 00:46:48,816 --> 00:46:51,656 Speaker 3: PSYCHOLOGISTS i was, Like, Hey i'm struggling this season and he's. 1081 00:46:51,976 --> 00:46:52,576 Speaker 2: Quarterback that's the. 1082 00:46:52,736 --> 00:46:55,776 Speaker 3: Quarterback ye go through the mental anguish of the position 1083 00:46:55,936 --> 00:46:58,496 Speaker 3: because it can be the highs of all, highs but 1084 00:46:58,576 --> 00:47:01,536 Speaker 3: it can also be the loneliest position because everybody's eyes 1085 00:47:01,576 --> 00:47:04,296 Speaker 3: are on, you and if you make that critical mistake 1086 00:47:04,416 --> 00:47:08,016 Speaker 3: or throw that critical, interception it just you feel empty 1087 00:47:08,016 --> 00:47:10,816 Speaker 3: inside because you let down everybody. WHERE i feel like 1088 00:47:10,896 --> 00:47:12,936 Speaker 3: there's other positions that can get by with a mental 1089 00:47:13,176 --> 00:47:16,576 Speaker 3: mistake or they miss their, block but not everybody notices. 1090 00:47:16,656 --> 00:47:20,096 Speaker 3: That but they notice every single bad play that a quarterback. 1091 00:47:20,176 --> 00:47:22,936 Speaker 3: Has and sometimes it's just answering those questions over and 1092 00:47:23,056 --> 00:47:25,016 Speaker 3: over about whether or not you're gonna be at the 1093 00:47:25,176 --> 00:47:27,176 Speaker 3: organization next, year, this, that and the, other and so 1094 00:47:27,576 --> 00:47:29,656 Speaker 3: sometimes having a sounding board and get somebody just to 1095 00:47:29,736 --> 00:47:32,616 Speaker 3: give you that perspective of, look this is their, job 1096 00:47:32,696 --> 00:47:34,256 Speaker 3: this is what they're gonna. Do they're gonna ask the tough. 1097 00:47:34,336 --> 00:47:37,416 Speaker 3: Questions BUT i always felt like it was something that 1098 00:47:37,536 --> 00:47:41,296 Speaker 3: benefited me more than it ever hurt. ME i know 1099 00:47:41,416 --> 00:47:43,496 Speaker 3: THAT i can be mentally tough and play that, game 1100 00:47:43,536 --> 00:47:46,176 Speaker 3: but there was times where, yeah it was LIKE i 1101 00:47:46,336 --> 00:47:46,736 Speaker 3: just need. 1102 00:47:46,696 --> 00:47:48,896 Speaker 2: To talk to somebody IF i lost Containing you're, RIGHT 1103 00:47:48,936 --> 00:47:50,856 Speaker 2: i could hide behind like ten other, guys, like well 1104 00:47:50,896 --> 00:47:52,776 Speaker 2: the defense should have bailed me. Out but you throw 1105 00:47:52,816 --> 00:47:54,576 Speaker 2: a pick and you're like hey receive a ran a wrong, 1106 00:47:54,656 --> 00:47:56,776 Speaker 2: Route like you're still the guy who's got THE qbr 1107 00:47:57,096 --> 00:48:00,416 Speaker 2: or the one interception on His, YEAH i got a 1108 00:48:00,576 --> 00:48:04,096 Speaker 2: quick story for. YOU i remember we grabbed lunch In Manhattan, 1109 00:48:04,136 --> 00:48:06,896 Speaker 2: beach probably after my rookiear was tw thousand and, nine 1110 00:48:06,896 --> 00:48:08,896 Speaker 2: the year That Tom brady went down WITH acl or was. 1111 00:48:08,896 --> 00:48:09,616 Speaker 3: That two thousand and? 1112 00:48:09,656 --> 00:48:13,536 Speaker 2: Eight, yeah, Okay so then before my rookie, year we sat. 1113 00:48:13,616 --> 00:48:17,056 Speaker 2: Down it was you and your wife and, uh we 1114 00:48:17,136 --> 00:48:19,656 Speaker 2: were at some. RESTAURANT i forget down. There but he 1115 00:48:19,736 --> 00:48:22,176 Speaker 2: had come home And, matt you had success that, year 1116 00:48:22,336 --> 00:48:24,096 Speaker 2: but you guys didn't make the. Playoffs And i'm, like, Well, 1117 00:48:24,136 --> 00:48:26,336 Speaker 2: matt you should be starting. Over Tom BRADY i remember 1118 00:48:26,416 --> 00:48:28,656 Speaker 2: telling him, this And, matt, actually you, know because he 1119 00:48:28,696 --> 00:48:30,336 Speaker 2: has been a part of the. Busy, well, no he 1120 00:48:30,416 --> 00:48:32,616 Speaker 2: should get his job. Back he, had you, know me 1121 00:48:32,776 --> 00:48:34,656 Speaker 2: not understanding how it. Works ONCE i got to the, 1122 00:48:34,736 --> 00:48:36,496 Speaker 2: LEAGUE i, go even as a first round, Pick i'm, like, 1123 00:48:36,576 --> 00:48:40,016 Speaker 2: OH i got elevated to the. Top but you did well. 1124 00:48:40,056 --> 00:48:41,536 Speaker 2: Though you went off To Kansas, city made you a 1125 00:48:41,616 --> 00:48:43,936 Speaker 2: little bag and, uh you know we're on your. Way 1126 00:48:44,136 --> 00:48:44,776 Speaker 2: you know who would have? 1127 00:48:44,816 --> 00:48:45,936 Speaker 3: Thought who would have thunk? 1128 00:48:45,976 --> 00:48:47,856 Speaker 2: It, Well that's what's, Great. MATT i just you, KNOW 1129 00:48:47,896 --> 00:48:50,776 Speaker 2: i love the how your how your your life just took, 1130 00:48:50,856 --> 00:48:53,216 Speaker 2: off your career and. Everything just a big fan of. 1131 00:48:53,256 --> 00:48:56,496 Speaker 3: You you know it did my. Friend it's just been 1132 00:48:56,576 --> 00:48:57,696 Speaker 3: fun to just throw out. Here. 1133 00:48:57,776 --> 00:49:00,816 Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah i'm like in the, Middle i'm just Catching. 1134 00:49:00,856 --> 00:49:02,696 Speaker 4: Brova he has a brow And i'm Just i'm just 1135 00:49:02,736 --> 00:49:05,696 Speaker 4: trying to take some of. It i'm trying to. Breathing 1136 00:49:05,976 --> 00:49:08,496 Speaker 4: Bro would you get? Nervous? 1137 00:49:09,936 --> 00:49:13,176 Speaker 2: Uh, YEAH i was always, nervous you, LIKE i, mean 1138 00:49:13,456 --> 00:49:15,416 Speaker 2: it's an energy to. Me would you ask IF i was, 1139 00:49:15,496 --> 00:49:17,856 Speaker 2: Nervous i'd be, like, No BUT i believe it's a 1140 00:49:17,936 --> 00:49:22,936 Speaker 2: it's a mixture of emotion like, adrenaline like. Fear you, 1141 00:49:23,016 --> 00:49:24,656 Speaker 2: know there's there's so much into. It So i'm sure 1142 00:49:24,656 --> 00:49:26,976 Speaker 2: there's there's some. Nerves i'm gonna say there's nerves instead 1143 00:49:26,976 --> 00:49:29,096 Speaker 2: of being nervous BECAUSE i knew what to. DO i 1144 00:49:29,176 --> 00:49:31,176 Speaker 2: put in the. WORK i was only nervous IF i, 1145 00:49:31,216 --> 00:49:33,456 Speaker 2: didn't you, know IF i cheated myself in film study or. 1146 00:49:33,656 --> 00:49:36,616 Speaker 2: Whatnot and but for the most, part you go in 1147 00:49:36,696 --> 00:49:39,696 Speaker 2: there and you did everything you. Can you, know you 1148 00:49:39,736 --> 00:49:41,136 Speaker 2: guys just leave it out. There there was TIME i, 1149 00:49:41,216 --> 00:49:43,576 Speaker 2: mean there was times WHERE i literally wasn't on the 1150 00:49:43,656 --> 00:49:46,656 Speaker 2: stat column and you, know had my best week of, 1151 00:49:46,696 --> 00:49:48,816 Speaker 2: preparation and you, know the media and the fans are 1152 00:49:48,856 --> 00:49:51,256 Speaker 2: coming down on. You and there was a Time imber 1153 00:49:51,256 --> 00:49:52,856 Speaker 2: calling my dad one time before a. Game it was 1154 00:49:52,896 --> 00:49:55,456 Speaker 2: like week. Sixteen we're going out To Tampa. BAY i 1155 00:49:55,456 --> 00:49:59,496 Speaker 2: had a torn. BICEP i was coming off an adduct or, 1156 00:49:59,576 --> 00:50:02,216 Speaker 2: strain and it didn't matter if we win or. Lose 1157 00:50:02,256 --> 00:50:04,496 Speaker 2: we're Playing detroit the next. Week we had to, win 1158 00:50:04,616 --> 00:50:06,816 Speaker 2: and my dad's, like you, know just just one of 1159 00:50:06,896 --> 00:50:09,296 Speaker 2: those fatherly. ADVICE i go two and a half, SACKS 1160 00:50:09,296 --> 00:50:11,016 Speaker 2: i have one of my best. Games so it's like 1161 00:50:12,176 --> 00:50:14,616 Speaker 2: it's like. Baseball it's like taking hits at the, Bat 1162 00:50:14,776 --> 00:50:17,256 Speaker 2: like you know you're gonna get your opportunities. There but 1163 00:50:17,336 --> 00:50:19,976 Speaker 2: there's no point in being in. Nervous you're just trusting 1164 00:50:20,056 --> 00:50:22,976 Speaker 2: your you, know it's so, cliche trusting your, preparation know 1165 00:50:23,056 --> 00:50:26,016 Speaker 2: that you're you, know you can get it. Done you 1166 00:50:26,136 --> 00:50:26,376 Speaker 2: were With. 1167 00:50:26,536 --> 00:50:29,096 Speaker 3: Green bay obviously your entire career until the tail, end 1168 00:50:29,256 --> 00:50:31,056 Speaker 3: right and you go to The. Rams what was that 1169 00:50:31,656 --> 00:50:33,856 Speaker 3: like for? You because when you're with one organization for 1170 00:50:34,016 --> 00:50:36,576 Speaker 3: so long and now it's a brand new locker. Room 1171 00:50:36,736 --> 00:50:39,296 Speaker 3: what was it like going in and having you talking about? 1172 00:50:39,336 --> 00:50:41,256 Speaker 2: Nerves? Yeah, yeah like there's. 1173 00:50:40,976 --> 00:50:43,096 Speaker 3: Something to be said about that walking into a new 1174 00:50:43,176 --> 00:50:45,696 Speaker 3: locker room and having to re establish. YOURSELF i don't, know. 1175 00:50:45,776 --> 00:50:48,136 Speaker 2: You, know you're. RIGHT i thought it was. GREAT i 1176 00:50:48,176 --> 00:50:52,456 Speaker 2: thought it was. GREAT i felt this this new, energy 1177 00:50:52,816 --> 00:50:56,216 Speaker 2: this new, like, OH i could play another five six. 1178 00:50:56,336 --> 00:50:59,896 Speaker 2: Years SO i went. There, obviously going back TO la warmer. 1179 00:50:59,976 --> 00:51:02,696 Speaker 2: Weather the team's just coming off a Super bowl kind 1180 00:51:02,736 --> 00:51:05,656 Speaker 2: of you, know what's The sean McVay, guy all about thirty. 1181 00:51:05,696 --> 00:51:07,656 Speaker 2: Three i'm thirty three at the, time and he gets 1182 00:51:07,696 --> 00:51:09,616 Speaker 2: in front of the team and you, know AND i 1183 00:51:09,696 --> 00:51:12,736 Speaker 2: was With mike McCarthy for ten years In Green, bay 1184 00:51:12,776 --> 00:51:14,976 Speaker 2: and it's you, know he's From, Pittsburgh pittsburgh tough And, 1185 00:51:15,576 --> 00:51:18,656 Speaker 2: sean you, know just kind of represent IN la and 1186 00:51:18,776 --> 00:51:22,656 Speaker 2: letting everybody be their individual and have their their ego and. 1187 00:51:22,736 --> 00:51:24,815 Speaker 2: Whatnot it. Was it was completely, Different BUT i found 1188 00:51:24,856 --> 00:51:27,216 Speaker 2: myself having to prove myself. AGAIN i really wanted, to 1189 00:51:27,376 --> 00:51:29,656 Speaker 2: especially my last. YEAR i came off a career low in. 1190 00:51:29,776 --> 00:51:32,336 Speaker 2: Sacks you, know we changed defensive. Coordinators i'm, LIKE i, 1191 00:51:32,416 --> 00:51:35,776 Speaker 2: KNOW i could still play and going there was so much. 1192 00:51:35,856 --> 00:51:38,736 Speaker 2: Fun we didn't make the playoffs and, underachieved BUT i 1193 00:51:38,816 --> 00:51:40,736 Speaker 2: THOUGHT i did really well And i'm, like, man next 1194 00:51:40,816 --> 00:51:42,336 Speaker 2: year we're gonna be in so. FUN i get a 1195 00:51:42,416 --> 00:51:45,336 Speaker 2: call Like PRIME covid Like, march like hey, man we're 1196 00:51:45,376 --> 00:51:47,096 Speaker 2: moving into DIFFERENT i was like, What, LIKE i was, 1197 00:51:47,136 --> 00:51:48,496 Speaker 2: like what do you? MEAN i should be asking for a? 1198 00:51:48,616 --> 00:51:51,416 Speaker 2: Raise but you know that's how the rams just kind 1199 00:51:51,456 --> 00:51:55,216 Speaker 2: of they're always moving pieces. Around but, YEAH i felt 1200 00:51:55,216 --> 00:51:56,815 Speaker 2: LIKE i had to prove myself. Again it was fun, 1201 00:51:56,856 --> 00:51:59,376 Speaker 2: though and you, know it was really. Well Aaron donald 1202 00:51:59,416 --> 00:52:02,416 Speaker 2: playing With Aaron, DONALD i didn't play with a guy 1203 00:52:02,536 --> 00:52:04,776 Speaker 2: like even somebody Like. Julius he, was you, know like 1204 00:52:04,816 --> 00:52:08,216 Speaker 2: he get double team than. Whatnot And charles Played woodson 1205 00:52:08,256 --> 00:52:10,656 Speaker 2: played on the back. End but, MAN i went back 1206 00:52:10,656 --> 00:52:12,496 Speaker 2: to being a rookie. AGAIN i was single the whole. 1207 00:52:12,536 --> 00:52:14,376 Speaker 2: TIME i had a lot of you, know a wins 1208 00:52:14,416 --> 00:52:16,456 Speaker 2: and pass rush got my sacks up. AGAIN i, go 1209 00:52:16,776 --> 00:52:18,936 Speaker 2: this is what it's. Like but it was. FUN i 1210 00:52:18,976 --> 00:52:21,616 Speaker 2: had a good time, there and you, know we all 1211 00:52:21,696 --> 00:52:24,216 Speaker 2: wish it could have lasted, longer but, yeah it was. 1212 00:52:24,256 --> 00:52:25,335 Speaker 2: FUN i had a good. Time THEN. 1213 00:52:40,656 --> 00:52:42,896 Speaker 4: I got to Know donald driver a little bit From 1214 00:52:43,096 --> 00:52:46,976 Speaker 4: dance Within stars and after his career when in a 1215 00:52:47,056 --> 00:52:50,416 Speaker 4: television did that a little? Bit you had a face 1216 00:52:50,496 --> 00:52:52,976 Speaker 4: that people knew and you weren't a, quarterback which was. 1217 00:52:53,096 --> 00:52:56,056 Speaker 4: Rare did you think about getting into entertainment at? 1218 00:52:56,056 --> 00:52:59,256 Speaker 2: All and my agents were always pushing, Me, hey you, 1219 00:52:59,296 --> 00:53:01,616 Speaker 2: know let's, see let's do, broadcasting let's do, this AND 1220 00:53:02,416 --> 00:53:04,336 Speaker 2: i don't. Know for, ME i just you, know not 1221 00:53:04,456 --> 00:53:06,216 Speaker 2: to get on this whole die. Try BUT i just 1222 00:53:06,336 --> 00:53:11,216 Speaker 2: think it's, dangerous you. KNOW i THINK i had immediate, 1223 00:53:11,296 --> 00:53:13,816 Speaker 2: success you, know in THE, nfl and everybody put me 1224 00:53:13,896 --> 00:53:16,096 Speaker 2: on a pedestal and everybody's quick to tear you, down 1225 00:53:16,136 --> 00:53:20,736 Speaker 2: and it's just it's dangerous to put your you, know 1226 00:53:20,936 --> 00:53:23,976 Speaker 2: beliefs in other people's, words whether it be through social 1227 00:53:24,056 --> 00:53:26,536 Speaker 2: media or you, know people talking about what you're, wearing 1228 00:53:26,576 --> 00:53:29,256 Speaker 2: who you're, dating this and. That and for, ME i 1229 00:53:29,416 --> 00:53:31,136 Speaker 2: JUST i took a step. Back and that's what you, know, 1230 00:53:31,176 --> 00:53:33,016 Speaker 2: people what? Happened what do you do all? Day i'm, like, 1231 00:53:33,056 --> 00:53:36,056 Speaker 2: MAN i love. IT i love going out and nobody 1232 00:53:36,176 --> 00:53:39,416 Speaker 2: not and you, know less people knowing WHO i. AM 1233 00:53:42,016 --> 00:53:45,296 Speaker 2: i truly am loving the anonymity of just kind of 1234 00:53:45,336 --> 00:53:46,296 Speaker 2: going out and just doing my. 1235 00:53:46,376 --> 00:53:46,496 Speaker 3: Thing. 1236 00:53:46,616 --> 00:53:49,256 Speaker 2: NOW i think a lot of people they, lose you, 1237 00:53:49,336 --> 00:53:51,816 Speaker 2: know that roar of the, Crowd they lose what they. 1238 00:53:51,896 --> 00:53:54,216 Speaker 2: Were but for, me it's Like i've been, there done. 1239 00:53:54,256 --> 00:53:56,256 Speaker 2: That and this goes back to you, know my, upbringing 1240 00:53:56,376 --> 00:53:58,335 Speaker 2: my father and stuff and how he lives his life 1241 00:53:58,376 --> 00:54:00,456 Speaker 2: and being. Humble AND i can't SAY i was a 1242 00:54:00,496 --> 00:54:02,456 Speaker 2: humble as, him but you, KNOW i JUST i just am, 1243 00:54:02,496 --> 00:54:04,496 Speaker 2: Like i'm, Okay i'm at peace with my. Career that's 1244 00:54:04,496 --> 00:54:06,056 Speaker 2: what he always. Say i'm a peace with my. Career 1245 00:54:06,456 --> 00:54:07,816 Speaker 2: you could sit here and so do you have any 1246 00:54:07,896 --> 00:54:09,696 Speaker 2: regrets you wish you would have done? Things? YEAH i mean, 1247 00:54:09,736 --> 00:54:12,536 Speaker 2: sure but Like i'm at peace with my career and, 1248 00:54:12,936 --> 00:54:14,256 Speaker 2: Uh i'm good with. 1249 00:54:14,376 --> 00:54:17,536 Speaker 3: It you're definitely at. Peace but talk about your new, 1250 00:54:17,616 --> 00:54:19,536 Speaker 3: passion which is seems to be Far. 1251 00:54:19,736 --> 00:54:20,896 Speaker 4: Land, Yeah. 1252 00:54:21,376 --> 00:54:23,096 Speaker 3: Landy you got to tell them about some of the 1253 00:54:23,176 --> 00:54:26,376 Speaker 3: projects that you're working, on trees that you've played All, 1254 00:54:26,496 --> 00:54:28,056 Speaker 3: YEAH i, mean just go for. It. 1255 00:54:28,176 --> 00:54:31,096 Speaker 2: Yeah, so we we were fortunate to get about two 1256 00:54:31,216 --> 00:54:35,536 Speaker 2: hundred acres close to, town And i've always loved the. 1257 00:54:35,576 --> 00:54:38,136 Speaker 2: Outdoors i've always, wanted you, know my own, place and 1258 00:54:38,216 --> 00:54:40,176 Speaker 2: fortunate it's close enough THAT i pretty. Much you JUST 1259 00:54:40,536 --> 00:54:41,856 Speaker 2: i wass going to go to the land, today which 1260 00:54:41,856 --> 00:54:44,176 Speaker 2: you had to put on jeans and whatnot to come up. 1261 00:54:44,216 --> 00:54:47,936 Speaker 2: Here but, man, honestly that's kind of that's philed devoid, 1262 00:54:48,016 --> 00:54:50,296 Speaker 2: too of staying busy while the kids are at. School 1263 00:54:50,416 --> 00:54:55,056 Speaker 2: so we were building a, barn a cottage down. There 1264 00:54:55,136 --> 00:54:58,096 Speaker 2: we got a house close to, town you, know with 1265 00:54:58,256 --> 00:54:59,815 Speaker 2: the kids and. Whatnot but we got a four acre 1266 00:54:59,896 --> 00:55:04,216 Speaker 2: pond completely dredged or completely drained, it dredged it. Deeper 1267 00:55:04,336 --> 00:55:07,976 Speaker 2: Reintroduced florida lar mouth bass subspecies of blue. Gill back. 1268 00:55:08,056 --> 00:55:10,016 Speaker 2: End they were just fishing out there this past. Weekend 1269 00:55:10,616 --> 00:55:12,896 Speaker 2: went down To, chattanooga got me some, boulders planted some 1270 00:55:12,976 --> 00:55:15,856 Speaker 2: trees around. It we got the barn going. UP i 1271 00:55:15,936 --> 00:55:19,096 Speaker 2: planted an orchard too with my brother AND i one 1272 00:55:19,176 --> 00:55:22,936 Speaker 2: hundred and seven chestnut. Trees so for those who give you, 1273 00:55:23,056 --> 00:55:26,376 Speaker 2: know af chestnut used to be the tree of The. 1274 00:55:26,456 --> 00:55:30,096 Speaker 2: Appalachias they were like that supported the people, here the, 1275 00:55:30,256 --> 00:55:32,736 Speaker 2: wildlife that's what they built Their barns's what they traded. 1276 00:55:32,776 --> 00:55:34,936 Speaker 2: With but blight came over From asia wiped them all. 1277 00:55:35,016 --> 00:55:38,896 Speaker 2: OUT i believe they're virtually, extinct but recently they've been 1278 00:55:38,936 --> 00:55:41,056 Speaker 2: able within the past couple, decades they've been able to 1279 00:55:41,216 --> 00:55:44,616 Speaker 2: put together The chinese, chestnut which is blight, resistance and 1280 00:55:44,696 --> 00:55:46,976 Speaker 2: backbreed it with The american. Chestnuts so it's like fifteen 1281 00:55:47,096 --> 00:55:51,056 Speaker 2: sixteen So american. Chestnut SO i just love the history of. 1282 00:55:51,136 --> 00:55:53,496 Speaker 2: It and on top of that, too it only takes 1283 00:55:53,536 --> 00:55:56,296 Speaker 2: about three to five years for chestnuts to start. Developing 1284 00:55:56,736 --> 00:55:59,776 Speaker 2: they're super low In, tannin's high in carbs, Proteins so 1285 00:55:59,896 --> 00:56:03,416 Speaker 2: wildlife like turkey and, deer WHICH i enjoy hunting as 1286 00:56:03,456 --> 00:56:06,096 Speaker 2: you had, mentioned they enjoy. It you don't have to 1287 00:56:06,136 --> 00:56:08,536 Speaker 2: wait as long for oaks, too you, know the mighty 1288 00:56:08,616 --> 00:56:11,256 Speaker 2: oak to grow and produce, acorns which you're obviously Highering 1289 00:56:11,336 --> 00:56:14,856 Speaker 2: tannin's and. Whatnot so, Yeah I've i've really dove into you, 1290 00:56:14,976 --> 00:56:20,376 Speaker 2: know soil, health soil, science, sustainability AND i love. IT 1291 00:56:20,496 --> 00:56:23,296 Speaker 2: i love it SO i mean some people, laugh But i'm, 1292 00:56:23,376 --> 00:56:25,736 Speaker 2: LIKE i geek out over. IT i just actually was 1293 00:56:25,776 --> 00:56:28,136 Speaker 2: just reaching to the orchardist down there At South i'm, 1294 00:56:28,176 --> 00:56:29,856 Speaker 2: like let me pick your. Brain you, KNOW i want 1295 00:56:29,896 --> 00:56:32,216 Speaker 2: to know what type of organic fertilizer we need to 1296 00:56:32,256 --> 00:56:35,336 Speaker 2: think about. Using what about? Pruning so did you get beehives. 1297 00:56:35,376 --> 00:56:35,976 Speaker 3: TOO i got. 1298 00:56:36,016 --> 00:56:38,656 Speaker 2: Bees, YEAH i got bees out there as. Well in, 1299 00:56:38,736 --> 00:56:40,696 Speaker 2: FACT i got to put a new souper on top because, 1300 00:56:40,896 --> 00:56:43,496 Speaker 2: uh you, know it'll be. Honey it'll be honey season soon. 1301 00:56:43,576 --> 00:56:45,216 Speaker 3: Enough do you do you put on this full? SUIT 1302 00:56:45,336 --> 00:56:45,976 Speaker 3: i put on the full. 1303 00:56:46,016 --> 00:56:48,816 Speaker 2: Suit it's IT'S i got the, smoke a little burlock 1304 00:56:48,856 --> 00:56:50,856 Speaker 2: THAT i, LIKE i got. This it's IT'S i just 1305 00:56:50,936 --> 00:56:52,696 Speaker 2: get so hot, though and then they always sting me, 1306 00:56:52,816 --> 00:56:55,256 Speaker 2: though SO i usually just like just let them do 1307 00:56:55,336 --> 00:56:57,336 Speaker 2: their thing a little. Bit halfway through the. Year i'm, 1308 00:56:57,376 --> 00:56:59,736 Speaker 2: like all, right we'll get honey next. Year but, YEAH 1309 00:56:59,736 --> 00:57:02,016 Speaker 2: i GOT i got lots of projects between just splitting, 1310 00:57:02,056 --> 00:57:05,976 Speaker 2: firewood cutting, grass just you, know being a just being an. 1311 00:57:06,016 --> 00:57:07,776 Speaker 2: Outdoorsman most interesting man in the. 1312 00:57:07,816 --> 00:57:10,496 Speaker 4: World, yeah who Knew california? 1313 00:57:10,616 --> 00:57:11,736 Speaker 3: Kid? Yeah all. 1314 00:57:11,816 --> 00:57:15,536 Speaker 4: Right three final. Questions number, one anybody grabbed the hair 1315 00:57:15,616 --> 00:57:17,936 Speaker 4: purposefully and you're, like, dude chill. Out, no not. 1316 00:57:18,056 --> 00:57:22,216 Speaker 2: Purposefully IF i kept it slicked back and greased up and, 1317 00:57:22,336 --> 00:57:24,576 Speaker 2: wet LIKE i could have it behind my. Shoulders but 1318 00:57:24,736 --> 00:57:26,776 Speaker 2: sometimes he'd hang right here in the, front and usually 1319 00:57:26,816 --> 00:57:28,696 Speaker 2: with tight ends when you're fighting with, them it would 1320 00:57:28,696 --> 00:57:30,856 Speaker 2: get ripped. OUT i Remember i'd go. Back i'd always 1321 00:57:30,856 --> 00:57:34,416 Speaker 2: see like a like WHEN i was expensive hair salon, 1322 00:57:34,496 --> 00:57:36,296 Speaker 2: whatever And i'd come back AFTERCAUSE i wouldn't get my 1323 00:57:36,336 --> 00:57:38,936 Speaker 2: hair cut In Green bay and they're, like oh, man 1324 00:57:39,016 --> 00:57:40,496 Speaker 2: the hair is kind of beat up a little. Bit 1325 00:57:40,536 --> 00:57:42,336 Speaker 2: they'd have to do some SOME tlc on. 1326 00:57:42,456 --> 00:57:44,216 Speaker 4: It but no splot THAT i. 1327 00:57:44,336 --> 00:57:47,096 Speaker 2: Know But i've Grabbed i've grabbed dreads before in the. 1328 00:57:47,136 --> 00:57:49,056 Speaker 2: GAME i remember somebody for The. LIONS i forget who it. 1329 00:57:49,216 --> 00:57:52,096 Speaker 2: WAS i even A. Paula i'm sorry, man but he 1330 00:57:52,176 --> 00:57:53,976 Speaker 2: still farmed. Me SO i like grabbed his dreads and 1331 00:57:54,016 --> 00:57:56,576 Speaker 2: pulled him, down LIKE i is what it is. 1332 00:57:58,336 --> 00:58:00,496 Speaker 4: When you did your whole orchard, Thing like that's, it 1333 00:58:00,776 --> 00:58:02,736 Speaker 4: BECAUSE i LIKE i need to play like. PICKLEBALL i 1334 00:58:02,776 --> 00:58:04,296 Speaker 4: need to beat people. UP i need to find stuff 1335 00:58:04,416 --> 00:58:07,256 Speaker 4: some some competitive. Edge but that's yours, Now like you're 1336 00:58:07,296 --> 00:58:09,576 Speaker 4: trying to grow the greatest farmland in the history yea Of. 1337 00:58:09,736 --> 00:58:11,976 Speaker 2: Earth yeah, NO i, YEAH i love. 1338 00:58:12,016 --> 00:58:12,176 Speaker 3: IT I. 1339 00:58:13,776 --> 00:58:16,336 Speaker 2: My uncle had about fifty acres outside Of houston growing, 1340 00:58:16,416 --> 00:58:18,616 Speaker 2: up and we go out there For easter AND i 1341 00:58:18,696 --> 00:58:22,896 Speaker 2: always asked to operate the chainsaw and the tractor starting. 1342 00:58:23,016 --> 00:58:26,256 Speaker 2: Fires i'd Make molotov cocktails with, diesel throw them in, 1343 00:58:26,336 --> 00:58:29,976 Speaker 2: there just like you, know, ticks fire, ants all that. 1344 00:58:29,976 --> 00:58:31,416 Speaker 2: Stuff and so WHEN i got my, OWN i JUST 1345 00:58:31,536 --> 00:58:33,616 Speaker 2: i just kind of naturally took to it AND i 1346 00:58:33,696 --> 00:58:38,096 Speaker 2: started acquiring you, know implements and, machinery and you, know 1347 00:58:38,136 --> 00:58:40,576 Speaker 2: we're getting close to finishing our, barn and while to 1348 00:58:40,656 --> 00:58:42,256 Speaker 2: hang out with the, kids because the kids get there 1349 00:58:42,296 --> 00:58:44,056 Speaker 2: for like two, hours they walk up and down the, 1350 00:58:44,136 --> 00:58:46,616 Speaker 2: creek they go, fishing but they've GOT i could stay 1351 00:58:46,656 --> 00:58:48,376 Speaker 2: there all, day and it's like right in the heart of. 1352 00:58:48,456 --> 00:58:50,776 Speaker 2: Town so you could take your side by side down 1353 00:58:50,816 --> 00:58:54,416 Speaker 2: to the to the market down, there you, know get 1354 00:58:54,416 --> 00:58:54,976 Speaker 2: you some cold. 1355 00:58:55,016 --> 00:58:58,216 Speaker 4: Ones how'd you do on your sat or act whichever 1356 00:58:58,256 --> 00:58:58,416 Speaker 4: one you? 1357 00:58:58,496 --> 00:58:59,296 Speaker 2: Took not very? Good? 1358 00:58:59,536 --> 00:58:59,776 Speaker 4: Really. 1359 00:58:59,896 --> 00:59:02,976 Speaker 2: YEAH i was always a try hard. Guy, yeah white, 1360 00:59:03,016 --> 00:59:08,896 Speaker 2: guy try, hard walk on yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah 1361 00:59:09,016 --> 00:59:12,416 Speaker 2: of course. No SO i, yeah my Brother, Kyle kyle 1362 00:59:12,576 --> 00:59:15,056 Speaker 2: never my older, brother never applied. Himself he's done very 1363 00:59:15,096 --> 00:59:17,536 Speaker 2: well in. Life he's on commercial real estate here In 1364 00:59:17,616 --> 00:59:20,776 Speaker 2: nashville but all over as. Well and he never applied. 1365 00:59:20,856 --> 00:59:22,416 Speaker 2: Himself and he'll be the first. One i'mit, this AND 1366 00:59:22,456 --> 00:59:23,976 Speaker 2: i think he Scored i'm making. This so let's say 1367 00:59:23,976 --> 00:59:26,256 Speaker 2: it was a sixteen hundred essayt maybe like in the fifteen, 1368 00:59:26,376 --> 00:59:28,176 Speaker 2: hundreds you, know just kind of LIKE i remember my 1369 00:59:28,256 --> 00:59:31,736 Speaker 2: dad was disappointed at. Him he's, Like i'm disappointed because 1370 00:59:31,776 --> 00:59:33,576 Speaker 2: all these years you told me you were stupid or, 1371 00:59:33,656 --> 00:59:35,336 Speaker 2: dumb and, like you, know you're you just didn't apply, 1372 00:59:35,376 --> 00:59:37,616 Speaker 2: yourself whereas, me LIKE i tried my. Hardest IF i 1373 00:59:37,656 --> 00:59:40,136 Speaker 2: got above a, THOUSAND i was, like, yes like just 1374 00:59:40,856 --> 00:59:43,656 Speaker 2: hit the. Threshold but NOW i was actually just telling 1375 00:59:43,696 --> 00:59:46,296 Speaker 2: somebody the other day WHY i did well at USC 1376 00:59:46,576 --> 00:59:48,976 Speaker 2: Is because if you're an athlete and you sit in 1377 00:59:49,056 --> 00:59:52,056 Speaker 2: the front row and you, try they always give you 1378 00:59:52,096 --> 00:59:53,896 Speaker 2: the benefit of the. DOUBT i remember being In spanish 1379 00:59:53,936 --> 00:59:56,416 Speaker 2: Class spanish FOR i couldn't speak a lick Of, english 1380 00:59:57,296 --> 01:00:00,776 Speaker 2: Reading capitalusita In manhattan and a little red riding hood In, 1381 01:00:00,816 --> 01:00:03,456 Speaker 2: manhattan writing up. Essays you just sit in the front and, 1382 01:00:03,496 --> 01:00:04,056 Speaker 2: try just. 1383 01:00:04,176 --> 01:00:08,056 Speaker 4: Try have a metaphor for life, though, like, yeah absolutely, 1384 01:00:08,216 --> 01:00:10,816 Speaker 4: Try like that's ninety. Percent if you show up on, 1385 01:00:10,936 --> 01:00:12,656 Speaker 4: time you sit up on the front and you, try 1386 01:00:12,856 --> 01:00:13,376 Speaker 4: that's ninety. 1387 01:00:13,376 --> 01:00:16,016 Speaker 2: Percent but it also helps that the narrative around athletes 1388 01:00:16,096 --> 01:00:18,936 Speaker 2: is like you're an, idiot Which i'm leaning. Into so 1389 01:00:19,056 --> 01:00:21,576 Speaker 2: if you really go on the front and. Try you're just, like, 1390 01:00:21,736 --> 01:00:24,096 Speaker 2: YEAH i need your, help That i'm here to help. 1391 01:00:24,176 --> 01:00:27,616 Speaker 2: You so let's just bump that c minus. 1392 01:00:27,456 --> 01:00:29,536 Speaker 3: Up to H have your kids ever seen you In Pitch? 1393 01:00:29,576 --> 01:00:37,016 Speaker 2: PERFECT i THINK i think my wife showed my youngest the. 1394 01:00:37,136 --> 01:00:39,136 Speaker 2: SCENE i think he got embarrassed. Again but, NO i 1395 01:00:39,176 --> 01:00:39,856 Speaker 2: don't think they've seen. 1396 01:00:39,896 --> 01:00:42,336 Speaker 3: It oh you, know we in my car on the 1397 01:00:42,456 --> 01:00:44,936 Speaker 3: ride to school On, fridays we do Pitch Perfect fridays 1398 01:00:44,976 --> 01:00:47,456 Speaker 3: and all we do is. Listen we listen to the full, 1399 01:00:47,496 --> 01:00:49,656 Speaker 3: album and the kids love. It and they found you 1400 01:00:50,096 --> 01:00:52,336 Speaker 3: and the Pitch perfect and we watched the clip over 1401 01:00:52,376 --> 01:00:54,776 Speaker 3: and over and they think it's the funniest. Thing this 1402 01:00:54,856 --> 01:00:55,216 Speaker 3: is WHAT i was. 1403 01:00:55,256 --> 01:00:57,456 Speaker 2: Saying his son came up to me at school and he's, 1404 01:00:57,456 --> 01:00:59,256 Speaker 2: LIKE i watched you in Pitch perfect. Too for THOSE 1405 01:00:59,336 --> 01:01:01,376 Speaker 2: i don't, KNOW i had a cameo and Pitch perfect 1406 01:01:01,416 --> 01:01:03,896 Speaker 2: too where the. Packers we had a group of of 1407 01:01:04,056 --> 01:01:06,616 Speaker 2: me and some offensive linemen and we bat we'd had a, 1408 01:01:06,736 --> 01:01:11,456 Speaker 2: riff off ended, up. Bluesing but, nonetheless, YEAH i GET 1409 01:01:11,536 --> 01:01:13,816 Speaker 2: i find more fans now who are fans of? Mind 1410 01:01:13,816 --> 01:01:17,456 Speaker 2: because of Pitch perfect and my Limited hollywood. Career all. 1411 01:01:17,536 --> 01:01:19,296 Speaker 4: Right final, question do your kids ever just watch your? 1412 01:01:19,336 --> 01:01:20,336 Speaker 4: Highlights you ever walking out your? 1413 01:01:20,376 --> 01:01:24,176 Speaker 2: Kids, yeah my my, yeah my, Youngest yeah They my 1414 01:01:24,296 --> 01:01:26,976 Speaker 2: daughter doesn't care as. Much she just wants to watch 1415 01:01:27,056 --> 01:01:29,656 Speaker 2: Like sabrine. ALONEZ i think those are like dancing videos. 1416 01:01:29,896 --> 01:01:33,496 Speaker 2: Are but, yeah my, Boys i'll watch that and they 1417 01:01:33,536 --> 01:01:35,816 Speaker 2: get all. Fired and THEN i watched it also that 1418 01:01:36,016 --> 01:01:37,616 Speaker 2: was like. 1419 01:01:38,456 --> 01:01:41,296 Speaker 3: My kids catch me all the time watching my, highlights like, 1420 01:01:41,376 --> 01:01:45,456 Speaker 3: Crying like remember the kids watch, This they're, Like i'm, 1421 01:01:45,496 --> 01:01:46,576 Speaker 3: Good i'm, Good, Dad. 1422 01:01:47,256 --> 01:01:48,936 Speaker 4: Clay we really appreciate. It, man this has been. Awesome 1423 01:01:49,016 --> 01:01:50,856 Speaker 4: thanks for having, Me thanks thanks for giving us an, 1424 01:01:50,896 --> 01:01:53,696 Speaker 4: hour and, uh it's pretty cool you guys were you? Know, 1425 01:01:54,656 --> 01:01:56,736 Speaker 4: okay let me ask both of you this. Question last last? 1426 01:01:56,816 --> 01:02:01,576 Speaker 4: Question do you cohabitat when you're two different sides of 1427 01:02:01,616 --> 01:02:04,096 Speaker 4: the ball in? College like do you ever like do 1428 01:02:04,336 --> 01:02:07,096 Speaker 4: you at all run together see each other in the? 1429 01:02:07,176 --> 01:02:08,776 Speaker 4: LOCKER i mean before. 1430 01:02:08,656 --> 01:02:11,456 Speaker 2: First Of matt AND i are very, different like this 1431 01:02:11,616 --> 01:02:14,616 Speaker 2: guy's mister personality on the school, board like who LIKE 1432 01:02:14,736 --> 01:02:16,776 Speaker 2: i see him and Sometimes i'll like roll up the 1433 01:02:16,816 --> 01:02:18,656 Speaker 2: window BECAUSE i Know i'm in for like a thirty 1434 01:02:18,696 --> 01:02:22,216 Speaker 2: minute conversation like he's friends with absolutely everyone me on 1435 01:02:22,296 --> 01:02:25,056 Speaker 2: the other one on the other, Side, casey my wife 1436 01:02:25,096 --> 01:02:26,976 Speaker 2: talks to me and she's just, like, yeah you just 1437 01:02:27,016 --> 01:02:29,336 Speaker 2: give off this look like you don't you're not interested 1438 01:02:29,376 --> 01:02:31,136 Speaker 2: and you don't want to talk to. Anybody AND i was, 1439 01:02:31,216 --> 01:02:34,016 Speaker 2: like all, right well that's, fair so we have you, 1440 01:02:34,096 --> 01:02:35,696 Speaker 2: know we're very. Different so that being, SAID i Think 1441 01:02:35,776 --> 01:02:38,096 Speaker 2: matt was friends with everybody like he. Could he would 1442 01:02:38,136 --> 01:02:40,496 Speaker 2: just you, know just a chameleon could fit. In, Meanwhile 1443 01:02:40,496 --> 01:02:43,256 Speaker 2: i'm just you, know just doing my thing over. Here 1444 01:02:43,376 --> 01:02:45,256 Speaker 2: BUT i don't know how you want to answer that. 1445 01:02:45,416 --> 01:02:47,376 Speaker 3: Question, well it's interesting because when you're in the locker, 1446 01:02:47,456 --> 01:02:51,016 Speaker 3: room the defense and offensive guys aren't like all. In 1447 01:02:51,456 --> 01:02:54,056 Speaker 3: defense isn't an all in one section and offense. Isn't 1448 01:02:54,096 --> 01:02:57,336 Speaker 3: you're kind of. Intermix so it's this cool way in 1449 01:02:57,416 --> 01:03:00,496 Speaker 3: which you interact with your. Teammates now during, meetings everything, 1450 01:03:00,536 --> 01:03:02,656 Speaker 3: else you're separate until you come together for a team. 1451 01:03:02,656 --> 01:03:04,896 Speaker 3: Meeting but then that bond of being out in the 1452 01:03:04,936 --> 01:03:07,456 Speaker 3: field and and all that you go and particularly in, 1453 01:03:07,536 --> 01:03:09,576 Speaker 3: college you got nothing else to. Do you don't have 1454 01:03:09,656 --> 01:03:11,816 Speaker 3: any families to go home, too so we would go 1455 01:03:12,056 --> 01:03:14,176 Speaker 3: everybody would go out, together so you get a great 1456 01:03:14,296 --> 01:03:16,856 Speaker 3: mix of both defensive and offensive. Player two of my 1457 01:03:16,936 --> 01:03:19,536 Speaker 3: best friends were Loft tatupu And Sean codi WHEN i 1458 01:03:19,616 --> 01:03:21,856 Speaker 3: was in, school and those are two defensive guys And 1459 01:03:21,936 --> 01:03:25,256 Speaker 3: i'm the backup. Quarterback like it just it's such an 1460 01:03:25,336 --> 01:03:27,656 Speaker 3: interesting dynamic when you get into the locker. Room and 1461 01:03:28,296 --> 01:03:31,256 Speaker 3: to his, POINT i would try to go along and 1462 01:03:31,376 --> 01:03:34,416 Speaker 3: talk to, everybody just because that's my Per i'm uncomfortable in. 1463 01:03:34,496 --> 01:03:37,616 Speaker 4: SILENCE i just am And i'm uncomfortable. Period we went 1464 01:03:37,656 --> 01:03:40,376 Speaker 4: to Super bowl together and he got a glass, here 1465 01:03:40,576 --> 01:03:42,496 Speaker 4: yeah he Got, Yeah matt got a good dose of 1466 01:03:42,616 --> 01:03:44,696 Speaker 4: me in real. Life me on a. Microphone i'm freaking 1467 01:03:44,976 --> 01:03:47,976 Speaker 4: life of the, party but in real life AND i just. 1468 01:03:48,216 --> 01:03:50,336 Speaker 4: DID i just dipped like we were at a party, 1469 01:03:50,336 --> 01:03:52,416 Speaker 4: together and he just looks. Around i'm, Gone. 1470 01:03:52,336 --> 01:03:54,296 Speaker 2: He's the mysterious one in the corner looking at his 1471 01:03:54,416 --> 01:03:56,176 Speaker 2: fingers chicks and what's up with your? Friend? 1472 01:03:56,256 --> 01:03:56,496 Speaker 4: Over? 1473 01:03:56,816 --> 01:03:59,816 Speaker 3: Did we walked into This commissioner's ball and there's a 1474 01:03:59,896 --> 01:04:01,816 Speaker 3: lot of, People don't get me, wrong it's intimidating for. 1475 01:04:01,856 --> 01:04:03,936 Speaker 3: Anybody AND i didn't really know a lot of. People 1476 01:04:03,936 --> 01:04:06,016 Speaker 3: and THEN i ran Into Coach bellock AND i went 1477 01:04:06,056 --> 01:04:08,296 Speaker 3: up and introduce produced. Me matt was super Kindh we 1478 01:04:08,376 --> 01:04:11,336 Speaker 3: introduced our group and sat, there talked to him for a. 1479 01:04:11,376 --> 01:04:13,976 Speaker 3: Second from that point, on did not See. Bobby, YEAH i. 1480 01:04:14,056 --> 01:04:16,776 Speaker 3: LEFT i just Wanted we were there for what forty 1481 01:04:16,816 --> 01:04:19,296 Speaker 3: five minutes before you you just ghosted me and Said 1482 01:04:19,576 --> 01:04:21,136 Speaker 3: and THEN i got a text, Message, Hey i'm back 1483 01:04:21,136 --> 01:04:23,816 Speaker 3: of the hotel. Man, SORRY i had to scoot great to. 1484 01:04:23,856 --> 01:04:25,416 Speaker 4: See, yeah not that. 1485 01:04:25,496 --> 01:04:28,976 Speaker 2: Comfortable i've got a similar story to. Yours so our first, 1486 01:04:29,096 --> 01:04:32,136 Speaker 2: year we had a school, function stars and, guitars AND 1487 01:04:33,936 --> 01:04:35,656 Speaker 2: i dressed in like a three. Piece haven't had a 1488 01:04:35,696 --> 01:04:37,696 Speaker 2: suit on in like, years you, know so we just 1489 01:04:37,736 --> 01:04:39,656 Speaker 2: didn't have to dress up for, football or at least 1490 01:04:39,656 --> 01:04:42,256 Speaker 2: in a. Suit and So i'm taking the. Escalator first of, 1491 01:04:42,296 --> 01:04:45,296 Speaker 2: all parking was a. Nightmare it's in Downtown, nashville And 1492 01:04:45,536 --> 01:04:47,456 Speaker 2: i'm taking the escalator up AND i looked to my 1493 01:04:47,656 --> 01:04:50,816 Speaker 2: right and it's just like five, hundred like a thousand, 1494 01:04:50,976 --> 01:04:54,736 Speaker 2: people and my social. ANXIETY i got my. Wife we 1495 01:04:54,856 --> 01:04:57,096 Speaker 2: literally hit the elevator going right back. Down we ordered 1496 01:04:57,176 --> 01:04:59,096 Speaker 2: like Grub hub or Door dash on the way, home 1497 01:04:59,216 --> 01:05:01,256 Speaker 2: So i'm like eating in our. Shoe we're eating like 1498 01:05:01,616 --> 01:05:03,696 Speaker 2: the Takeout. SUSHIA i just couldn't do it in this. 1499 01:05:03,856 --> 01:05:06,416 Speaker 2: Guy i'm thinking it's like a you, know like you 1500 01:05:06,496 --> 01:05:08,656 Speaker 2: got to dress. Up he's wearing like it was disco. 1501 01:05:08,856 --> 01:05:09,856 Speaker 2: Theme SO i think he's. 1502 01:05:09,696 --> 01:05:12,056 Speaker 3: Got a Bigton Nelton JOHN i THINK i. 1503 01:05:12,176 --> 01:05:14,416 Speaker 2: Will, yeah, Well i'm sure you look, great but NONETHELESS 1504 01:05:14,576 --> 01:05:16,576 Speaker 2: i just, Yeah So i'm very much with you on. 1505 01:05:16,696 --> 01:05:19,456 Speaker 4: That it's been. Awesome thanks, Again, clay it was awesome To, 1506 01:05:20,056 --> 01:05:25,216 Speaker 4: yeah we got lots just, say we're gonna do something fun. 1507 01:05:25,256 --> 01:05:29,216 Speaker 4: Here matt want you to blind rank YOUR usc two 1508 01:05:29,296 --> 01:05:33,056 Speaker 4: thousand and four, teammates one of them being our guest this, 1509 01:05:33,136 --> 01:05:34,736 Speaker 4: Week Clay. Matthews Clay. 1510 01:05:34,816 --> 01:05:36,536 Speaker 3: Matthews, Okay SO i will. 1511 01:05:36,456 --> 01:05:39,616 Speaker 4: Give you a player, one, two, three, four and. Five 1512 01:05:39,776 --> 01:05:41,576 Speaker 4: you have to insert them into a spot before you 1513 01:05:41,656 --> 01:05:45,376 Speaker 4: know who else is coming. Up Perfect Matt lioner. 1514 01:05:46,816 --> 01:05:47,136 Speaker 3: Two. 1515 01:05:49,776 --> 01:05:58,736 Speaker 4: Reggie, bush number, one wide Receiver Dwayne, jarrett, four Center 1516 01:05:58,816 --> 01:06:05,176 Speaker 4: Ryan kalil. Three our guest this, week Linebacker Clay. Matthews 1517 01:06:05,416 --> 01:06:11,616 Speaker 4: Claim matthew's number, five number. Five, hey that's, funny all, Right. 1518 01:06:11,616 --> 01:06:14,256 Speaker 3: Bobby right, now we're gonna do the blind rankings of 1519 01:06:14,496 --> 01:06:19,056 Speaker 3: nineties country stars one through. Five all, right go, Ahead, 1520 01:06:19,616 --> 01:06:21,056 Speaker 3: okay The Dixie. 1521 01:06:21,136 --> 01:06:24,816 Speaker 4: Chicks it's. Tough you want to go, early you don't 1522 01:06:24,816 --> 01:06:27,896 Speaker 4: want to Give i'm gonna go three just because they're 1523 01:06:27,936 --> 01:06:30,456 Speaker 4: gonna set the bar three six to. 1524 01:06:30,536 --> 01:06:35,816 Speaker 3: Three rebump. McIntyre oh my, gosh this is tough Because 1525 01:06:35,856 --> 01:06:36,256 Speaker 3: reebe is a. 1526 01:06:36,336 --> 01:06:38,456 Speaker 4: Legend and ONCE i Thought reeba was inviting me to 1527 01:06:38,496 --> 01:06:39,776 Speaker 4: be a member of The Grand Ole. OPRY i was on. 1528 01:06:39,816 --> 01:06:41,056 Speaker 4: Stage she came out and she, said you want to 1529 01:06:41,056 --> 01:06:42,496 Speaker 4: be a, member AND i was so, excited and THEN 1530 01:06:42,496 --> 01:06:44,256 Speaker 4: i realized she was just, saying, hey thanks for covering. 1531 01:06:44,336 --> 01:06:44,696 Speaker 2: You get on. 1532 01:06:44,776 --> 01:06:48,056 Speaker 4: Stage now there's a whole. Thing i'm Gonna i'm gonna 1533 01:06:48,096 --> 01:06:49,776 Speaker 4: go two. 1534 01:06:50,016 --> 01:06:55,576 Speaker 3: Two Garth, brooks One brooks and. Done oh they're gonna kill. 1535 01:06:55,656 --> 01:06:56,896 Speaker 3: Me he is my. 1536 01:06:57,016 --> 01:06:59,536 Speaker 4: Friends they're gonna kill me because they're my. Friends i'm 1537 01:06:59,536 --> 01:07:02,936 Speaker 4: gonna put him at five because that just BECAUSE i. Can't, 1538 01:07:03,296 --> 01:07:04,936 Speaker 4: YES i, can, Yes and then who DO i have it? 1539 01:07:05,016 --> 01:07:05,056 Speaker 2: For? 1540 01:07:05,216 --> 01:07:08,496 Speaker 4: Then Joe? Diffy, okay, yay rest in, Peace Joe. Diffy 1541 01:07:08,776 --> 01:07:11,656 Speaker 4: i'm happy that he's a fod. There oh, man That 1542 01:07:12,256 --> 01:07:13,216 Speaker 4: brox and Now i'm gonna kill. 1543 01:07:13,256 --> 01:07:14,096 Speaker 3: Me, okay there we. 1544 01:07:14,176 --> 01:07:17,216 Speaker 4: Go thank you for listening to the. Podcast subscribe wherever 1545 01:07:17,416 --> 01:07:19,096 Speaker 4: you get your, podcasts and if you don't, mind give 1546 01:07:19,136 --> 01:07:20,696 Speaker 4: us alow rating as, well and we'll talk to you 1547 01:07:20,736 --> 01:07:21,336 Speaker 4: guys again next. 1548 01:07:21,376 --> 01:07:30,656 Speaker 1: Week lots To say With Bobby bones And Matt castle 1549 01:07:30,856 --> 01:07:34,256 Speaker 1: is a production of THE nfl And iHeart. Podcasts for 1550 01:07:34,376 --> 01:07:38,416 Speaker 1: more podcasts From, iHeartRadio visit The iHeartRadio, App Apple, podcasts 1551 01:07:38,496 --> 01:07:39,816 Speaker 1: or wherever you get your. Podcasts