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<v Speaker 1>What's the family. It's your girl to make a d.

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<v Speaker 1>Mallard and it's your boy my son in general. And

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<v Speaker 1>we are your hosts of street politicians, the place with

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<v Speaker 1>the streets and politics meet. Can we use like other

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<v Speaker 1>people's music, like back Together? Probably not, They're probably gonna

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<v Speaker 1>try to us. And you know, na, I think you

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<v Speaker 1>gotta say, I don't right to this music. That's the jam.

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<v Speaker 1>I like that. I like that. Oh yeah, okay, you

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<v Speaker 1>know and uh back together again, Yeah, that's the jam.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't know anyway. What is this that you have

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<v Speaker 1>on today? It's nice the black people? Black people, let

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<v Speaker 1>me take one of the shoes. Oh my god, are

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<v Speaker 1>you serious? And it's okay, don't put the bottom on

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<v Speaker 1>the table, just whole and then I'm gonna give you

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<v Speaker 1>some hands and genesee to give you the thing where

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<v Speaker 1>she tried to kill me today. She made me wipe

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<v Speaker 1>my hands with the hospital. The hospital, and we borrowed

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<v Speaker 1>the whites from the hospital. But we did because they

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<v Speaker 1>told us it was a pandemic. So they told us

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<v Speaker 1>it was to borrow means still we did not when

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<v Speaker 1>they said we borrowed, and they said in that manner,

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<v Speaker 1>at what happened was because it was the pandemic we had.

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<v Speaker 1>They told us to take those whites and to really

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<v Speaker 1>clean the house down. It was the beginning of the pandemic,

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<v Speaker 1>and you couldn't get and you couldn't get whites. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I just I don't want to say. I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to say I took or stole because I didn't. They

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<v Speaker 1>gave it to us. Well, okay, so is the wrong word.

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<v Speaker 1>But they gave us because you couldn't get whites and

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<v Speaker 1>stuff exactly. And so they said on these particular whites,

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<v Speaker 1>they said, do not use with your hands. And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sitting over here, I let this lady give me a wipe.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't look at where it came from or what

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<v Speaker 1>the container looked like, right, because it's purple and white

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<v Speaker 1>and its really industrial stuff. You know that our studio

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<v Speaker 1>is what two floors up from a major plastic surgery

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<v Speaker 1>office with a medical office, right, So there's medical stuff

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<v Speaker 1>in that building. So they wipe. Didn't want to stay

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<v Speaker 1>COVID free, and so they're doing the extra extra, not

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<v Speaker 1>the regular lights on. So I go and I use it,

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<v Speaker 1>and all of a sudden, I start going I'm like

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<v Speaker 1>dying and She looks at me and goes, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe you're not supposed to be that. I was. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I was okay you Why don't we put you one over?

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<v Speaker 1>I was standing right. No, you wasn't know I touched it.

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<v Speaker 1>It probably went through my finger. Yeah. And speaking of

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<v Speaker 1>nasty net like super duper net, I know, I'm serious.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't feel this is my personal conviction. I personally

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<v Speaker 1>do not feel that any group of people should be

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<v Speaker 1>in a society where you cannot walk up and down

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<v Speaker 1>the streets or be at a restaurant, or or be

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<v Speaker 1>or just just have freedom of eating or living in

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<v Speaker 1>your apartment without rats, physical rats running around rampant. That

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<v Speaker 1>is not okay with me. And and and I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>trying to be like Boujie too nobody. No, but I

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<v Speaker 1>don't care. I don't care. If you are houseless, you

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<v Speaker 1>should not have an influx of rats running around you.

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<v Speaker 1>Our friend Emil text me last night and said that

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<v Speaker 1>he was walking in the middle of the street in

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<v Speaker 1>Harlem to get home because there was like four or

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<v Speaker 1>five rats all around, like on the side walls. This

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<v Speaker 1>is not It's like, it's like imprisonment. It's not cool. No,

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<v Speaker 1>it is the red thing is out of control. I've

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<v Speaker 1>seen something on Instagram when they had something they looked

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<v Speaker 1>like a beaver and they said it was a rat.

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<v Speaker 1>It looked like a beaver. There's no way this rat.

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<v Speaker 1>The rat was like racon No it was you're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about me being about the white bro that rat. It

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<v Speaker 1>did not look like it looked different, but it was

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<v Speaker 1>still the size of these big as New York. This

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<v Speaker 1>rat was about this big. Yes it was. They had

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<v Speaker 1>the trap they had, Man, you're bugging. You didn't see it.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't that big. But it's a big rat. But

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<v Speaker 1>it still wasn't that big. I'm just saying you shut listen.

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<v Speaker 1>We need you to show it. Why would they want

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<v Speaker 1>to say that because you're sending it. Stopped sending me that,

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<v Speaker 1>because no, I'm not. I'm into seeing it. I'm into

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<v Speaker 1>trying to stop it. I'm literally the mayor of New

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<v Speaker 1>York City and tell him that I want to be

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<v Speaker 1>want the task for us. I said this before, but

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<v Speaker 1>I need to do it for real. I want to

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<v Speaker 1>be on the task for us to deal with rats.

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<v Speaker 1>It is not fair. And just now somebody else sent

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<v Speaker 1>me a video where the rat is running through the

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<v Speaker 1>fried chicken spot. Now in in there in the food,

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<v Speaker 1>eating the chicken. Now here's a problem with that, right,

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<v Speaker 1>here's the issue. And I've been saying this for a while.

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, you know, when I go out somewhere,

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<v Speaker 1>aren't gonna lie if I'm coming back from a long drive,

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<v Speaker 1>or if I go out and I'm clubbing or whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>I go by the chicken joint and get me a

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<v Speaker 1>piece of chicken. I mean, that's just a normal thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes you're in the middle of your day, you're hustling,

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<v Speaker 1>and you need something to eat, and you just don't

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<v Speaker 1>have an opportunity to go. You know, I don't eat

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<v Speaker 1>fried chicken like that anymore. But the fried chicken joint

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<v Speaker 1>is a part of the culture of like you in

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<v Speaker 1>New York, you live in the hood, you understand that's

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<v Speaker 1>what it is. And you're telling me I've never ever

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm not saying it wasn't there before. But the

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<v Speaker 1>point is now, all of a sudden, the rats is

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<v Speaker 1>they are just bold in the day, out in anywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>And no, there's more rats. I mean, that's that's no. No,

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<v Speaker 1>it has been verified the people that study rats and

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<v Speaker 1>underground and stuff, because during the pandemic. When they moved

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<v Speaker 1>the restaurants outside and the garbage was not being properly contained,

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<v Speaker 1>then they had This is what took place. Like I

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<v Speaker 1>hope that you guys put in this footage. I'll send

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<v Speaker 1>you a picture of the garbage built up near a

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<v Speaker 1>woman's house that I know. I went by to visit

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<v Speaker 1>her and her the garbage is disgusting. It's bags of garbage.

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<v Speaker 1>Everywhere in her house is extremely clean, but there's no

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<v Speaker 1>way that it's just a matter of time. Put it

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<v Speaker 1>that way. Even that lady that we saw on Lisa

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<v Speaker 1>Ever show that had the rats with the you said,

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<v Speaker 1>beaver in the house, it doesn't look dirty, but the

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<v Speaker 1>rat is running through her child's clothes. No limits where

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<v Speaker 1>these rats can go. They've reached it all time high.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not I don't know if it's the numbers of

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<v Speaker 1>different differing. What I'm saying is the boldness they come out.

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<v Speaker 1>They stand up on the high legs. They're giving you

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<v Speaker 1>five you know, for real, like they're standing on it

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<v Speaker 1>because I shopping now, if you want to see, if

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<v Speaker 1>y'all want to hear the call that I'm at the hospital,

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<v Speaker 1>because that's what it seems like it seems like people

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<v Speaker 1>are trying to make us accept rats as and I

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<v Speaker 1>don't even know what people I'm talking I mean many dimensions.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't even say how real that is. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>even just in the physical but the rats want to

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<v Speaker 1>be accepted society, and these physical rats are really speaking

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<v Speaker 1>for the rest of the rats. Listen, if you want

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<v Speaker 1>to ship, do you mind as well let us come outside.

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<v Speaker 1>You're a fool. Yeah, they get chill on the blocks

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<v Speaker 1>with y'all outside everywhere. Yeah, but we're not going to

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<v Speaker 1>accept this. I'm not. I'm telling you I'm going full fledged.

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<v Speaker 1>I might take I if I listen, I may take

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<v Speaker 1>a leave of asses to go work for the Mayor's

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<v Speaker 1>office in the department where they deal with rats. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>dead serious about this. This is not something I'm playing about. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's my only, my lad final point, not my only.

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<v Speaker 1>This is my final point for today on this issue.

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<v Speaker 1>Ob eats, door dash and all of that. You don't know, right,

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<v Speaker 1>Like you don't know if we're seeing the rat eating

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<v Speaker 1>the chicken in the window. If you know anything about

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<v Speaker 1>the chicken spot in New York, you see the chicken,

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<v Speaker 1>it's right there. How the hell does the rat even

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<v Speaker 1>get up the thing and in the thing and in

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<v Speaker 1>the things supposed to be closed the glass where the

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<v Speaker 1>chicken is behind the glass. Sometimes I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>some of these na bron because some of that don't

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<v Speaker 1>even make how they get inside of the comment. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>because you know, first of all, we which you and

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<v Speaker 1>I already know if you eat at the chicken spot,

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<v Speaker 1>you already eating nasty anyway, like dirty chickens. We're going

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<v Speaker 1>to yeah, we we we acknowledge that. Okay, BB and

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<v Speaker 1>numbers over there, they've got a little dirty chickens. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not filthy. That's not nice. Yeah, but it's not nice.

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<v Speaker 1>It's actually like derogatory to put it in the context

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<v Speaker 1>of dirty chicken it in the hobbyby. But it is

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<v Speaker 1>true most of them, most of the middle Easter, yea,

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<v Speaker 1>they have chickens and they're not that clean. You're filthy.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, they got their little bucket that you see

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<v Speaker 1>them doing a little sweet But you know, it's just

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<v Speaker 1>not those types of spots, even restaurants, even the local

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<v Speaker 1>whatever whatever kind of store, when it's local and it's

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<v Speaker 1>the spot, they don't be that clean. That's don't they

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<v Speaker 1>don't have the spot list because I don't eat sandwiches

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<v Speaker 1>from the regular bodega like and you wait, wait, listen.

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<v Speaker 1>You know in my hood they got this fish with

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<v Speaker 1>the salad. This that's one of my favorite mans. I

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<v Speaker 1>go to the hood to get my seafood mill. This

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<v Speaker 1>is one of the best meal grill shrimp. They do.

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<v Speaker 1>They do everything. Then, so shout out to the the

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<v Speaker 1>Dominicans on one seventy person. Man, they got the best

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<v Speaker 1>food the bottom. Don't one's saying that it's not good

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<v Speaker 1>because the local Chinese joint is good, the local the

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<v Speaker 1>local bodega is good, the local pizza shop, the local

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<v Speaker 1>chicken joint. I'm not taking away anything from them. And

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, even if I did, people are not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna stop and I eat it, tear it up. What

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<v Speaker 1>I am saying is that we all know that we're

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<v Speaker 1>when we go to these places, we are going to

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<v Speaker 1>grade down in terms of what we're gonna get from

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<v Speaker 1>a cleanly perspective. But now, if you got the rats

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<v Speaker 1>running around in the food, it concerns me because when

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<v Speaker 1>you and and by the way, just so we make

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<v Speaker 1>it clear, the local spots might be have issues, but

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<v Speaker 1>there's some major restaurants, these fancy is all around um

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<v Speaker 1>and being stored in the basement. They say, that's the

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<v Speaker 1>worst place. That's not the most place where I see rats.

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<v Speaker 1>So when you tell me when you go downtown with

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<v Speaker 1>all of the top made, when we walk outside of

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<v Speaker 1>those restaurants, it won't be thirty and forty rats running

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<v Speaker 1>down all the time? Are you kidding me that I

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<v Speaker 1>know exactly where you're talking about and that particular area,

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<v Speaker 1>I just can't. I mean, again, it would be, it

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<v Speaker 1>would be very it would be it would be perceived

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<v Speaker 1>in a very discriminatory way if we talked about who

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<v Speaker 1>is located in that dish. But I'm just trying to

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<v Speaker 1>tell you it's a bunch of rats, all those those

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<v Speaker 1>spots below thirty four, strewn on those blocks Fifth Avenue

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<v Speaker 1>and all that. When you come out of those restaurants,

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<v Speaker 1>it is rats. Yeah, it is. Okay. I'm not saying,

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<v Speaker 1>oh no, no, you're not. I'm not sitting here making

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<v Speaker 1>the case that there's not as many rats downtown. That's

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<v Speaker 1>not what I'm saying. I'm saying that even and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not just talking about down there. I'm saying that even

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<v Speaker 1>at Sylvia's right in Harlem because of the way they

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<v Speaker 1>keep the restaurant there. I've actually I've never and I

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<v Speaker 1>know the rats all around there, but I have never

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<v Speaker 1>walked out and had a rat running outside of Sylvia's

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<v Speaker 1>because they keep it super clean. They got the garbage

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<v Speaker 1>a certain type of way. So we're not talking about

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<v Speaker 1>black restauranes, so people won't be like, oh, you think

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<v Speaker 1>white establishments. I'm saying that. I'm saying that there are

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<v Speaker 1>certain if they don't keep their their garbage together and

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<v Speaker 1>and more over, which we should really be saying a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of these places just because of the mere fact

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<v Speaker 1>that they're in the hood, they don't try to take

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<v Speaker 1>care of their restaurant and the grounds and the outside.

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<v Speaker 1>They pour grease on the ground, which is a problem

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<v Speaker 1>because the grease is clearly it has the seasoning and

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<v Speaker 1>the smell of whatever in it. It's attracting things. It's nasty.

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<v Speaker 1>We already have dealt with roaches and seemed like roaches

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<v Speaker 1>the roaches go away because I don't see roach. I

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<v Speaker 1>see water bugs, but I don't see roaches. But what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm all I'm saying to you is be aware because

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<v Speaker 1>if you are buying food from Uber eats and door

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<v Speaker 1>dash and those types of places. You don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>you're getting. That's all I'm saying. Yeah, but I know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just telling you you never meant that. Well, now

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<v Speaker 1>it's starting to see all the things you don't know

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<v Speaker 1>the card most of these people you don't even knowing.

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<v Speaker 1>It's nasty. I am cooking more because no, because how

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<v Speaker 1>about no? I bet you know. So listen, we don't

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<v Speaker 1>have the time today to get deeply into Tyree Nichols man.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean bro like yo, like I know people who

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<v Speaker 1>are experiencing serious trauma, like at work and everything. My

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<v Speaker 1>friend told me the other day, I actually Jamie Um.

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<v Speaker 1>She told me that they held they held like a

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<v Speaker 1>a grief session during work because people are so like

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<v Speaker 1>emotionally drained that you gotta go to work after you

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<v Speaker 1>watch the lynching, like people cannot. It is this is

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<v Speaker 1>too much, it's too much. But what I I did

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<v Speaker 1>want to focus on one particular part, and I feel

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<v Speaker 1>so sorry for that man's family and just his daughter.

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<v Speaker 1>Like people, I mean, these people have kids and I

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<v Speaker 1>and I have to be honest with you, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel sorry for the families of five people that

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<v Speaker 1>made the most not more than five. What we're up

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<v Speaker 1>to like seven eight people at this point. Matter of fact,

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<v Speaker 1>it's more than that because you got the what we

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<v Speaker 1>said the MS work is, then you have the all

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<v Speaker 1>the officers. So all of these black people that were involved.

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<v Speaker 1>I am going to say today that I want to believe,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is my thought that I have been struggling

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<v Speaker 1>with and trying to process. I want to believe that

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<v Speaker 1>those black people, I think the numbers about seven, that

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<v Speaker 1>none of them had a mama that taught them that

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<v Speaker 1>ship or that would agree with what they did. I

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<v Speaker 1>want to believe that they black mama, black daddy, doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>matter where dad maybe not in the house, maybe away whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>wherever he may be. I still want to believe that

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<v Speaker 1>even a mama, daddy whoever, because we you know nowadays

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<v Speaker 1>it could be mom, dad whoever in prison, I want

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<v Speaker 1>to believe that that parent who might be locked up,

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<v Speaker 1>even in that situation, is calling their child saying what

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<v Speaker 1>the hell was that? Why would you be involved? What

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<v Speaker 1>are you doing? I just need to believe that that

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<v Speaker 1>they were not raised, especially down in Memphis, by parents

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<v Speaker 1>and a family that supports that type of behavior. Their

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<v Speaker 1>entire family structure has been completely ripped apart because of

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<v Speaker 1>AID and because of a need to uphold white supremacy

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<v Speaker 1>and a need to feel validated by abusing other people,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe because they feel that there they don't have value.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what it is, but the self hatred

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<v Speaker 1>and what that has now caused, it's it kills me.

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<v Speaker 1>It was it was a gang assault. It was it

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<v Speaker 1>was a gang assault. And to not not identify the

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<v Speaker 1>police as a gag, right, It's just it's not being honest.

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<v Speaker 1>And we and we could say there are good cops,

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<v Speaker 1>we can say all these things, but there's a structure

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<v Speaker 1>within the police system that makes you believe that it

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<v Speaker 1>feeds into the narrative that black people are dangerous, right, So,

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<v Speaker 1>and even when you tell other black people that, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and they feel like they're protected by this system that

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<v Speaker 1>has always protected them, that have we not seen this

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<v Speaker 1>on camera? Like the only reason that we we've got

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<v Speaker 1>justice in any situation is we had pure video. And

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<v Speaker 1>even times when we've had video, we didn't get justice.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is a system that makes even black people

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<v Speaker 1>who go into the system believe that you can get

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<v Speaker 1>away with harming a black person. All you have to

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<v Speaker 1>do is say that you feel like your life is

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<v Speaker 1>a gey. All you have to do is say that

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<v Speaker 1>they resisted the rest because these are the narratives that

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<v Speaker 1>have been painted about us, that we are hard, we

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<v Speaker 1>are dangerous, that your life is always in jeopardy when

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<v Speaker 1>you interact. You can be a kid it that's ten

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<v Speaker 1>years old, or you can be a man that's forty.

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<v Speaker 1>You can be a woman who's who who actually composed

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<v Speaker 1>no threat, and they can use the same story over

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<v Speaker 1>and over to to have no accountability for taking your life.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is what the system and what the structures,

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<v Speaker 1>and these men fell into that you know, they felt

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<v Speaker 1>that whatever reason, they pulled that man over and them

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<v Speaker 1>chasing him, and they because we don't know, we don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>There's so many people that want to spread and until

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<v Speaker 1>family members and to its, until people that I know

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<v Speaker 1>and respect can say this, this has been substantiated, we

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<v Speaker 1>are sure these things prior relationship. Because I'm just so tired.

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<v Speaker 1>I've watched listen to me, I've been paying attention to

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<v Speaker 1>social media, and I've watched social media create so many

0:18:49.680 --> 0:18:53.000
<v Speaker 1>narratives or if one person tweeted, well what if this happened?

0:18:53.560 --> 0:18:56.600
<v Speaker 1>And then what happens is people saw spreading memes and

0:18:56.640 --> 0:18:59.880
<v Speaker 1>people saw spreading means and they create this whole thing,

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<v Speaker 1>and I mean it becomes real because remember that woman

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<v Speaker 1>that uh was in the video attack and Champwhilla Robinson,

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<v Speaker 1>there was about a good three weeks of her being

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<v Speaker 1>trans like they was just she's a trans woman. She

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and nobody has to now now, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>not to say that she's not. She could be. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, but I do not think so. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>highly unlikely. And it is also based upon um Tyree

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<v Speaker 1>Nichols family. Highly unlikely that you don't as a family members,

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<v Speaker 1>Mom and daddy don't always know what you was doing,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, when you was doing what she was doing.

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<v Speaker 1>They always know. But they're saying it's not true, that

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<v Speaker 1>this story is not true, and they don't have to

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<v Speaker 1>be true because the police beat up on people all

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<v Speaker 1>the time time, especially black people. So you know, stop

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<v Speaker 1>stop stop looking for something to justify and substantial people people.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what we always do. Well, let me see the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of the film. You can see and puts him

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<v Speaker 1>in the face. He ain't got his hands are He's like, please, please, well,

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<v Speaker 1>let me see what caused them to do it. There's

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<v Speaker 1>nothing that could cause you to just be punching and

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<v Speaker 1>kicking or something. I don't need to see nothing else.

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<v Speaker 1>If a man is sitting there stomping a woman out

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<v Speaker 1>and she well, I want to know what she did

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<v Speaker 1>for me, I don't even know all of that. You

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<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying, that's not I don't understand the

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<v Speaker 1>mindset that comes with the need to know what has

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<v Speaker 1>happened before someone has been violated, like the world they

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<v Speaker 1>or they citizen, Well, you know she said this or

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<v Speaker 1>he said that. So no, there's no justification when I

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<v Speaker 1>look at those things. I know that the handbook policing

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<v Speaker 1>that ain't in the handbook even if he did do

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<v Speaker 1>whatever whatever. Once you're no longer a threat, once you

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<v Speaker 1>are no longer a threat, once you are physically not

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<v Speaker 1>a threat and you can't harm someone, and you can

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<v Speaker 1>see that, there's no justification for you continue to abuse it.

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<v Speaker 1>But can I ask you a question. Our police officers

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<v Speaker 1>allowed to just punch people? Well, I'm serious, Like, is

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<v Speaker 1>that a part of the tactic punching? Actually, I'm I'm

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<v Speaker 1>under the impression that if you that police officers, if

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<v Speaker 1>they feel threatened. They don't punch their taste or shoot.

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<v Speaker 1>It's legal lucive. Maybe they maybe they maybe those units

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<v Speaker 1>are like the scorpions. And my thing is those things violate.

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<v Speaker 1>You're right when you punch me in my face if

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not harming you, and there's no need for you

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<v Speaker 1>to punch me. There's no need for you to punch

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<v Speaker 1>me in my face. So if I hit you as

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<v Speaker 1>an officer, is it just do whatever you gotta do.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying, I'm asking you, is that sometimes you're

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<v Speaker 1>reflexing so they could justify and say, well, this person

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<v Speaker 1>hit me, so that was a natural reflex. So you're

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<v Speaker 1>not supposed to have a reflex, And that's what they're

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<v Speaker 1>saying you. You can't have a reflex. They can grab you,

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<v Speaker 1>push your your your face to the ground, be breaking

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<v Speaker 1>your arm and you you pull up and the wait

0:22:06.200 --> 0:22:08.880
<v Speaker 1>way you're hurting me. You're resisting the rest, so now

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<v Speaker 1>they can impose more harm on you. It's not even

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<v Speaker 1>these things don't even make comments sense. There's no way

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<v Speaker 1>that you gonna grab me and me pulling my motherfucking

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<v Speaker 1>shoulder out the socket and not expect me to try

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<v Speaker 1>to straighten my shoulder because you don't hurt me and

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<v Speaker 1>turn around and get off the floor because you got

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<v Speaker 1>my my face in the ground and applies. He said,

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<v Speaker 1>it hurts. That's why it's a simple. And why won't

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<v Speaker 1>you just stay still? Because I can't because it hurts. Hurts,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying. So I don't. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what these policies and procedures are. The policies and

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<v Speaker 1>procedures are not working. That's what I know. No man

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<v Speaker 1>of any level account they want to protect his life.

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<v Speaker 1>That's over before. So y'all donna have to find something else.

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<v Speaker 1>I got the stuff back on my hand. That's the

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<v Speaker 1>white I bet you're gonna leave that white below. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>I know that thing had me choke and it went

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<v Speaker 1>through my hand to my nose. Listen, man, listen, r

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<v Speaker 1>I p to tree and all the tyre's yes. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how you go to the guests from

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<v Speaker 1>well we go, we go from laughing the crime, that's right. Listen.

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<v Speaker 1>People are mad at me now because I posted a

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<v Speaker 1>video the other day of this guy in his argument

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<v Speaker 1>with God, and he is cussing guard out like he's

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<v Speaker 1>so tired and so mad and so seeing everything. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>the cuss words is a lot. Of course, you never

0:23:38.640 --> 0:23:42.320
<v Speaker 1>called God out of his or her name. I get it.

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<v Speaker 1>But he's not talking to God. He's talking to us,

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<v Speaker 1>and he is making a joke about the frustration that

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<v Speaker 1>people are feeling. And there's thousands of people who are like,

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<v Speaker 1>this is the best thing I've ever seen in my life,

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<v Speaker 1>because I feel like this sometimes. And then there's some

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<v Speaker 1>folks who teld me that they can't believe that I

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<v Speaker 1>would ever posted it. They can't believe it, They can't

0:24:04.000 --> 0:24:06.440
<v Speaker 1>believe that. You know what I said, I ain't that perfect.

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<v Speaker 1>But one thing I do know is that I've seen

0:24:09.600 --> 0:24:13.800
<v Speaker 1>people murderous, kill people, hurt, people, do all types of things.

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<v Speaker 1>And guess what the same book that or the same

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<v Speaker 1>religious or the spiritual beliefs that you have that says

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<v Speaker 1>don't curse God. It's the same spiritual belief that should

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<v Speaker 1>tell you that number one, number one, he still loves

0:24:31.840 --> 0:24:35.600
<v Speaker 1>you even if you cuss, even if you murder somebody,

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<v Speaker 1>even if whatever you do. That's book, that spiritual nous

0:24:39.760 --> 0:24:44.520
<v Speaker 1>that you have says judge not judge not someone else

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<v Speaker 1>because it could be your situation. So guess what I'm

0:24:47.280 --> 0:24:50.960
<v Speaker 1>not that perfect. And I also do not reduce my

0:24:51.119 --> 0:24:54.359
<v Speaker 1>God to a point that he can't take a good joke.

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<v Speaker 1>I just don't. It was funny, it was. It was hilarious.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh man, it was hilarious. Oh they was so theyre

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<v Speaker 1>so mad, they'd be all right, they of language, and

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<v Speaker 1>he wasn't talking to God. And one of my friends

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<v Speaker 1>who really is like a super spirit spiritual person, she's

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<v Speaker 1>a makeup artist, um cold marrow from um from from

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<v Speaker 1>l A. She said, well, you know. She went on

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about the spiritual journey and how God doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>put more on you than you can't then you can handle,

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<v Speaker 1>and she said it don't be cussing at my God.

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<v Speaker 1>But at the end she said, but that was funny though,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, yeah, you see, I'm saying, let's let's not

0:25:34.840 --> 0:25:41.040
<v Speaker 1>do the extra take a laugh some time. Let's bring

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<v Speaker 1>our guests on, because I laughed about bring them all.

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<v Speaker 1>Last week we went to see our first of all,

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<v Speaker 1>our good friend um A Ran Gatson called and said

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<v Speaker 1>we had to be. He sent me a text message

0:25:59.240 --> 0:26:01.880
<v Speaker 1>and told me I had no choice but to get

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<v Speaker 1>myself my two feet um to a movie theater to

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<v Speaker 1>see the premiere of a film. We're being joined today

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<v Speaker 1>by two of the incredible people that helped to make

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<v Speaker 1>this film happen. Uh. It's called Aurora. You know when

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<v Speaker 1>I first saw that, I was like, Okay, what is

0:26:19.359 --> 0:26:21.960
<v Speaker 1>this that A has us? You know what we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to see today? And it was all of that and

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<v Speaker 1>then some And I want to introduce our guest, Um

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<v Speaker 1>Noel Callaway, the writer and director for this project, and

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<v Speaker 1>also Joachima hollis Um who is the star actress, the

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<v Speaker 1>lead actress. I would like to I'm gonna say, because

0:26:39.720 --> 0:26:41.640
<v Speaker 1>you have black woman, so I'm gonna say your lead actress,

0:26:41.680 --> 0:26:44.879
<v Speaker 1>no matter who else might have been the lead, but

0:26:45.000 --> 0:26:48.359
<v Speaker 1>you were, but you you are, you are, and it

0:26:48.359 --> 0:26:52.480
<v Speaker 1>it's an all black film. It's black Andy black, black black.

0:26:53.080 --> 0:26:56.119
<v Speaker 1>And you know, let me just tell you in the

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<v Speaker 1>say to all of you who are who are looking,

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<v Speaker 1>and hopefully you see the beauty the blackness here. But

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<v Speaker 1>after the film was over, when you all did your

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<v Speaker 1>talk back and you all were sitting there, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if it was the light or what, but it

0:27:10.920 --> 0:27:15.080
<v Speaker 1>was just beauty from you all the way to the end,

0:27:15.119 --> 0:27:18.959
<v Speaker 1>where every single person, the young people, the skin just

0:27:19.080 --> 0:27:23.840
<v Speaker 1>the popping nous of that black and brown beauty and

0:27:23.920 --> 0:27:26.720
<v Speaker 1>culture and the film, which you guys are gonna talk about.

0:27:26.840 --> 0:27:29.440
<v Speaker 1>It was so good from beginning to end. You know, now,

0:27:29.480 --> 0:27:32.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't like some people because I'm like walking around

0:27:32.400 --> 0:27:35.080
<v Speaker 1>holding grudges about some of the things that happened and

0:27:35.640 --> 0:27:40.679
<v Speaker 1>the film. Yes, but I was actually sitting next to

0:27:40.800 --> 0:27:47.600
<v Speaker 1>like the worst of them all. Uh you know what's

0:27:47.600 --> 0:27:51.680
<v Speaker 1>her name? She's the Latina sister who merrily could terry

0:27:51.680 --> 0:27:56.399
<v Speaker 1>as the actress who plays Nina. I'm gonna defending a

0:27:56.400 --> 0:27:59.080
<v Speaker 1>little bit of any but not yet, not yet, not yet.

0:27:59.280 --> 0:28:02.479
<v Speaker 1>So tell us about the film, Um, what is it about?

0:28:02.680 --> 0:28:04.800
<v Speaker 1>And then of course we're gonna get into why all

0:28:04.840 --> 0:28:08.679
<v Speaker 1>of you got involved. Yes, So first, thank you guys

0:28:08.840 --> 0:28:12.000
<v Speaker 1>for I'm a super fan of the platform of the

0:28:12.040 --> 0:28:15.080
<v Speaker 1>work you do, so I appreciate the opportunity to be here.

0:28:15.240 --> 0:28:20.320
<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Thank you. Interviews with people will necessarily but

0:28:20.440 --> 0:28:26.159
<v Speaker 1>this is real. Thank you. And yeah, So first I

0:28:26.240 --> 0:28:29.919
<v Speaker 1>talked about the beauty. Um, the beauty was important to me,

0:28:30.640 --> 0:28:36.240
<v Speaker 1>right from the landscape beautiful Puerto Rico, to the different

0:28:36.320 --> 0:28:39.320
<v Speaker 1>shades of brown that I wanted to put on screen,

0:28:39.960 --> 0:28:44.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, different ages of different sizes. I really wanted

0:28:44.080 --> 0:28:48.480
<v Speaker 1>to show the spectrum of our beauty UM in destination

0:28:48.520 --> 0:28:53.040
<v Speaker 1>wedding movie. Right, it's a movie about love, but it's

0:28:53.080 --> 0:28:59.120
<v Speaker 1>a layered love. It's not, to say the least romantic

0:28:59.200 --> 0:29:01.040
<v Speaker 1>love that you see a lot of times on screen.

0:29:01.080 --> 0:29:03.920
<v Speaker 1>And we deliberately started it that way. I wanted everybody

0:29:03.920 --> 0:29:06.520
<v Speaker 1>to be on this high and its this this destination

0:29:06.560 --> 0:29:09.320
<v Speaker 1>wedding with these beautiful people, and then it just smack

0:29:09.440 --> 0:29:14.040
<v Speaker 1>you with the twist, the drama. Um And so yeah,

0:29:14.040 --> 0:29:15.720
<v Speaker 1>it's a love story with the twist. That's what we

0:29:15.800 --> 0:29:19.080
<v Speaker 1>like to call it. It's it's a rom calm. You'll laugh,

0:29:19.240 --> 0:29:21.440
<v Speaker 1>but then you'll find yourself y'alling at the screen and

0:29:21.480 --> 0:29:24.040
<v Speaker 1>trying to figure out, you know, who you hate. So

0:29:24.600 --> 0:29:30.480
<v Speaker 1>we're super proud of it. What does the name Aurora

0:29:30.560 --> 0:29:35.480
<v Speaker 1>actually means? So, as I when I wrote, I usually

0:29:35.560 --> 0:29:38.600
<v Speaker 1>right before I title a film, because the title come

0:29:38.640 --> 0:29:41.680
<v Speaker 1>to you, the title it really come to me. Um,

0:29:41.720 --> 0:29:44.760
<v Speaker 1>I had to dig a little deeper, and Aurora means

0:29:45.120 --> 0:29:47.800
<v Speaker 1>a natural phenomenon, which is like a flash of light

0:29:47.840 --> 0:29:52.120
<v Speaker 1>in the sky, uh, And I used it to symbolize

0:29:52.840 --> 0:29:57.440
<v Speaker 1>what Giselle Joachima's character Giselle did to Kenny, and that

0:29:57.760 --> 0:30:01.480
<v Speaker 1>when you see that person in your has been protected

0:30:01.560 --> 0:30:04.960
<v Speaker 1>because of the past experience. It takes that type of

0:30:05.200 --> 0:30:09.479
<v Speaker 1>strong natural phenomenon that woman to break through that. And

0:30:09.520 --> 0:30:12.640
<v Speaker 1>so you know, her name was not Aurora in the film,

0:30:12.640 --> 0:30:15.000
<v Speaker 1>which I think is a simple way to go right right,

0:30:15.080 --> 0:30:17.920
<v Speaker 1>but after person, I wanted to name it after feeling.

0:30:18.760 --> 0:30:22.880
<v Speaker 1>So that's what being a lead actress. And you know,

0:30:22.920 --> 0:30:24.680
<v Speaker 1>I love the film, So I know about the film.

0:30:24.720 --> 0:30:28.360
<v Speaker 1>We're not gonna give everybody, you know, everything right. What

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<v Speaker 1>made you when you heard when you heard this role,

0:30:31.800 --> 0:30:33.840
<v Speaker 1>what made you saying that this is this is something

0:30:33.880 --> 0:30:37.120
<v Speaker 1>I want to be. Yeah, you know, when I read it,

0:30:37.720 --> 0:30:42.680
<v Speaker 1>I immediately felt that Giselle was a multifaceted woman, and

0:30:42.800 --> 0:30:45.600
<v Speaker 1>I like that she's a woman who's still on a

0:30:45.720 --> 0:30:48.120
<v Speaker 1>journey of trying to figure out what she wants out

0:30:48.120 --> 0:30:50.520
<v Speaker 1>of life, how to get it. And I really love

0:30:50.600 --> 0:30:53.720
<v Speaker 1>that she's allowed to be imperfect, because I think too

0:30:53.800 --> 0:30:56.400
<v Speaker 1>often in life black women feel like we have to

0:30:56.440 --> 0:30:58.960
<v Speaker 1>have it together, we have to be perfect in order

0:30:59.000 --> 0:31:02.000
<v Speaker 1>to get the guy and get the career and juggle

0:31:02.040 --> 0:31:05.280
<v Speaker 1>it all. And Gizell is just trying to figure it out.

0:31:05.440 --> 0:31:08.160
<v Speaker 1>And so I was really drawn to that aspect of her.

0:31:08.240 --> 0:31:11.960
<v Speaker 1>You know, she's she's imperfect, but she's figuring it out

0:31:12.040 --> 0:31:15.280
<v Speaker 1>and she's getting there. Well, She's sure she figured out

0:31:15.320 --> 0:31:19.880
<v Speaker 1>a lot as far as I'm concerned. And I mean,

0:31:19.960 --> 0:31:23.160
<v Speaker 1>you you talked about why you wrote this film, So

0:31:23.200 --> 0:31:25.320
<v Speaker 1>maybe you could tell us a little bit about that today,

0:31:25.360 --> 0:31:27.680
<v Speaker 1>because I felt I found the story to be very

0:31:27.720 --> 0:31:30.360
<v Speaker 1>powerful about your own experience and how we see it

0:31:30.400 --> 0:31:35.400
<v Speaker 1>on screen. Yeah. So I had the the blessing of

0:31:35.560 --> 0:31:40.680
<v Speaker 1>being married on a beach in Aruba, uh too the

0:31:40.720 --> 0:31:44.520
<v Speaker 1>woman of my dreams uh in front of six pi

0:31:44.680 --> 0:31:47.720
<v Speaker 1>something of our friends and family. And coming from a

0:31:47.800 --> 0:31:51.680
<v Speaker 1>kid from hallm Um, we didn't travel a lot when

0:31:51.680 --> 0:31:54.880
<v Speaker 1>I was younger. We didn't have these experiences that now

0:31:54.960 --> 0:32:00.280
<v Speaker 1>my daughter has. But I know that our culture sometimes

0:32:00.320 --> 0:32:03.600
<v Speaker 1>needs those experiences, right, needs that escapism, needs to be

0:32:03.640 --> 0:32:06.360
<v Speaker 1>able to go to a destination wedding, even if it

0:32:06.400 --> 0:32:08.800
<v Speaker 1>doesn't happen in their family, because if I can show

0:32:08.800 --> 0:32:10.960
<v Speaker 1>it on screen, then maybe someone would think, oh maybe

0:32:11.000 --> 0:32:13.960
<v Speaker 1>I can do that. Right, And so having that vibe

0:32:14.000 --> 0:32:18.880
<v Speaker 1>at my wedding with you know, it's friends, family, grandparents, kids,

0:32:18.960 --> 0:32:22.120
<v Speaker 1>everybody just partying, having a good time loving each other,

0:32:22.440 --> 0:32:25.280
<v Speaker 1>and then there's drama and there's craziness, and you know,

0:32:26.280 --> 0:32:28.280
<v Speaker 1>all of that was something I wanted to bottle up

0:32:28.640 --> 0:32:31.960
<v Speaker 1>and put into a film. And you know, My Love

0:32:32.040 --> 0:32:34.000
<v Speaker 1>is kind of boring in that we don't have drama.

0:32:34.840 --> 0:32:37.720
<v Speaker 1>It's not boring, you know, boring to the outside. We

0:32:38.280 --> 0:32:41.320
<v Speaker 1>haven't the top of our lives before. Too boring for

0:32:41.360 --> 0:32:46.960
<v Speaker 1>the audience. Yeah, they don't like that. So I said,

0:32:47.000 --> 0:32:49.880
<v Speaker 1>all right, we can't tell our story per se, but

0:32:49.960 --> 0:32:52.960
<v Speaker 1>I'll start with the base of our story, the love

0:32:53.040 --> 0:32:56.480
<v Speaker 1>in our story. Um, and then I'll let my mind

0:32:56.520 --> 0:32:59.960
<v Speaker 1>take you where it goes. Talk about the casting process,

0:33:02.360 --> 0:33:05.880
<v Speaker 1>um so yeah, Elsa Latern. I have to shout our

0:33:05.880 --> 0:33:09.720
<v Speaker 1>casting director. She was amazing, Melissa Martin, one of our producers,

0:33:09.720 --> 0:33:13.960
<v Speaker 1>who was very integral in the casting process. Um. I

0:33:14.800 --> 0:33:16.560
<v Speaker 1>and I guess we'll talk a little bit about this.

0:33:16.640 --> 0:33:23.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't watch everything because everything is good, intelligent, it isn't,

0:33:23.960 --> 0:33:25.959
<v Speaker 1>you know, it doesn't. I watch a lot of old stuff,

0:33:26.360 --> 0:33:28.000
<v Speaker 1>So when it's not for me to cast, I'll be

0:33:28.080 --> 0:33:32.000
<v Speaker 1>thinking about people from the wire, you know, who we

0:33:32.080 --> 0:33:34.920
<v Speaker 1>see in this film. I would think people from you know,

0:33:35.000 --> 0:33:37.360
<v Speaker 1>shows and movies that I've watched years and years ago

0:33:37.840 --> 0:33:40.760
<v Speaker 1>that are not necessarily current, and there's so many talented

0:33:40.800 --> 0:33:44.960
<v Speaker 1>actors and actresses right now, and so I let them

0:33:45.040 --> 0:33:47.960
<v Speaker 1>take the lead on it. Right. Um, there are actors

0:33:48.000 --> 0:33:51.840
<v Speaker 1>I know, like asking Montique Harper who plays Sophia, Mark

0:33:51.920 --> 0:33:55.560
<v Speaker 1>John Jefferies who put kills will um? You know. So

0:33:55.600 --> 0:33:57.680
<v Speaker 1>there's some actors that I know that I know that

0:33:58.000 --> 0:34:02.560
<v Speaker 1>Jason Hurt who played They see who are super talented

0:34:02.600 --> 0:34:06.560
<v Speaker 1>don't always get looks right. And so I came to

0:34:06.680 --> 0:34:09.920
<v Speaker 1>it in certain roles saying, these people are playing these

0:34:10.000 --> 0:34:12.759
<v Speaker 1>characters because I know them, I know their talent, I

0:34:12.760 --> 0:34:15.400
<v Speaker 1>know they don't kill it. Outside of that, I'm going

0:34:15.480 --> 0:34:18.120
<v Speaker 1>to hand in the casting and you guys put it

0:34:18.120 --> 0:34:20.480
<v Speaker 1>out there. Let's see who submits and who you know

0:34:20.560 --> 0:34:24.320
<v Speaker 1>we've got. We've got some quote bigger names that submitted,

0:34:24.800 --> 0:34:27.600
<v Speaker 1>but when I looked at their tapes, they didn't match

0:34:27.680 --> 0:34:31.080
<v Speaker 1>up to who we casting, right, And so I said,

0:34:32.280 --> 0:34:34.719
<v Speaker 1>you know, let's just make a great movie with beautiful

0:34:34.760 --> 0:34:38.040
<v Speaker 1>talented people and we'll see what the ships want. I'm

0:34:38.040 --> 0:34:41.000
<v Speaker 1>just trying to figure out how do I put my submission,

0:34:41.040 --> 0:34:43.520
<v Speaker 1>So I need to know the process. You don't about

0:34:43.520 --> 0:34:46.880
<v Speaker 1>to put my little tape together. So now you and that,

0:34:47.160 --> 0:34:54.600
<v Speaker 1>you and that in a service. As I watched the film,

0:34:54.640 --> 0:34:56.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, I was just, first of all, I love

0:34:56.680 --> 0:34:59.720
<v Speaker 1>the cast, I love the film and the plot twist.

0:35:00.400 --> 0:35:04.839
<v Speaker 1>I just came on to Knowe and just was like, so,

0:35:05.080 --> 0:35:06.839
<v Speaker 1>I'm just trying to figure out as a director. You're

0:35:06.840 --> 0:35:08.960
<v Speaker 1>sitting and you writing these things, like what was going

0:35:08.960 --> 0:35:10.759
<v Speaker 1>through your mind? Did you say to yourself, I want

0:35:10.840 --> 0:35:15.200
<v Speaker 1>this to be I wanted to be just compelling. I

0:35:15.280 --> 0:35:17.520
<v Speaker 1>was like, what was the idea? What was your mind

0:35:17.560 --> 0:35:19.879
<v Speaker 1>state when you sat down and you just wrote this? Well,

0:35:19.880 --> 0:35:22.240
<v Speaker 1>by the way, just so I could, I knew something

0:35:22.360 --> 0:35:26.239
<v Speaker 1>was happening. I was very clear from like two or

0:35:26.280 --> 0:35:30.040
<v Speaker 1>three minutes in. I'm like, something's up with her with

0:35:30.239 --> 0:35:33.640
<v Speaker 1>what's her name? I'm sorry, Joachimo, what's your account? Giselle?

0:35:33.719 --> 0:35:36.799
<v Speaker 1>I gotta see because I want to call you exactly

0:35:36.800 --> 0:35:40.640
<v Speaker 1>who you are, like I'm ready to be like you no, no,

0:35:41.200 --> 0:35:45.160
<v Speaker 1>but Giselle, I was I felt like something was happening.

0:35:45.719 --> 0:35:48.360
<v Speaker 1>So you did a good job of making sure that

0:35:48.600 --> 0:35:53.840
<v Speaker 1>people are captivated that I know something is coming, versus

0:35:53.880 --> 0:35:57.040
<v Speaker 1>just sitting there like oh okay, okay, okay, you know,

0:35:57.160 --> 0:36:00.000
<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh, I saw that look, I saw

0:36:00.000 --> 0:36:03.000
<v Speaker 1>all those eyes and you know, anyway, so sorry, and

0:36:03.040 --> 0:36:05.040
<v Speaker 1>that was them all right. So I'll talk to a

0:36:05.120 --> 0:36:07.680
<v Speaker 1>little bit about the story, um and the way I

0:36:07.760 --> 0:36:11.000
<v Speaker 1>tell story, right, Like I make films, I don't like

0:36:11.040 --> 0:36:13.120
<v Speaker 1>to be called the independent filmmaker, just because it's a

0:36:13.120 --> 0:36:15.319
<v Speaker 1>connotation that goes with that, that people think it's not

0:36:15.360 --> 0:36:19.000
<v Speaker 1>gonna be on the level that my productions are. Um,

0:36:19.040 --> 0:36:21.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm a person who makes films and the family, but

0:36:21.760 --> 0:36:25.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm not, you know, an indie filmmaker, just because there's

0:36:25.239 --> 0:36:28.759
<v Speaker 1>some connotation around that I don't agree with. UM. So

0:36:29.280 --> 0:36:32.440
<v Speaker 1>when I write story, I want to challenge my people.

0:36:32.560 --> 0:36:35.120
<v Speaker 1>I trust our intelligence, right, I trust us to be

0:36:35.200 --> 0:36:38.280
<v Speaker 1>able to follow a plot line because I make movies

0:36:38.320 --> 0:36:41.160
<v Speaker 1>for for black people that other people can enjoy. Like,

0:36:41.280 --> 0:36:44.359
<v Speaker 1>that's what I do. UM, I don't apologize for that.

0:36:44.360 --> 0:36:47.600
<v Speaker 1>That's my audience, that's my backgrounds. Who I am. And

0:36:48.000 --> 0:36:53.640
<v Speaker 1>when I find actress is like Jachima, actors like Tobias

0:36:53.680 --> 0:36:56.719
<v Speaker 1>and I hand them this these words. It's up to

0:36:56.840 --> 0:36:59.640
<v Speaker 1>them to give you, guys that feeling right and I

0:36:59.680 --> 0:37:01.840
<v Speaker 1>can wrecked them, but I also just give them the

0:37:01.880 --> 0:37:05.680
<v Speaker 1>stage to say on this character. You know, we spoke

0:37:05.719 --> 0:37:07.480
<v Speaker 1>about the character, and I give her a lot of credit.

0:37:08.320 --> 0:37:10.760
<v Speaker 1>She asked for the whole script. A lot of actors

0:37:10.800 --> 0:37:14.600
<v Speaker 1>don't do that, right, so they like, give me the size,

0:37:14.680 --> 0:37:16.680
<v Speaker 1>let me read it. Oh, i'll do it. I'm flying

0:37:16.680 --> 0:37:18.719
<v Speaker 1>to Puerto Rico. Are you gonna pay me good? I'll

0:37:18.760 --> 0:37:23.560
<v Speaker 1>do it. She cared about the character, about the scope

0:37:23.560 --> 0:37:25.680
<v Speaker 1>of it, and then we talked about it and we

0:37:25.840 --> 0:37:29.480
<v Speaker 1>built Giselle together until I was comfortable to say, now

0:37:29.600 --> 0:37:32.640
<v Speaker 1>take her and make her what people would love hate

0:37:32.640 --> 0:37:36.080
<v Speaker 1>and everything in between. And so those subtleties that nuanced,

0:37:36.120 --> 0:37:42.160
<v Speaker 1>that's talent she did that. Yeah, yeah, you are a professional. Yes,

0:37:42.880 --> 0:37:47.080
<v Speaker 1>look at you. Okay, she does a lot of things.

0:37:47.120 --> 0:37:49.279
<v Speaker 1>And I noticed that when you start paying attentions when

0:37:49.280 --> 0:37:50.919
<v Speaker 1>I was watching the film, and I was like, wow,

0:37:50.920 --> 0:37:53.440
<v Speaker 1>this is really a good cat. I know that a

0:37:53.440 --> 0:37:57.120
<v Speaker 1>lot of these you know, actors. Um what what else

0:37:57.120 --> 0:37:59.120
<v Speaker 1>do I want to know? I want to know how

0:37:59.440 --> 0:38:01.960
<v Speaker 1>was the because basically when we had when you had

0:38:02.040 --> 0:38:04.480
<v Speaker 1>to talk back, it looked like you had good Karai

0:38:05.280 --> 0:38:07.439
<v Speaker 1>the rest of the castle. What was that like being

0:38:07.480 --> 0:38:11.120
<v Speaker 1>in Puerto Rico together like that? It was amazing You know,

0:38:11.200 --> 0:38:15.080
<v Speaker 1>we filmed this at the height of the pandemic, So

0:38:15.760 --> 0:38:18.440
<v Speaker 1>this was an opportunity to get out of our homes,

0:38:18.600 --> 0:38:20.520
<v Speaker 1>out of the spaces we were in because we were

0:38:20.560 --> 0:38:23.200
<v Speaker 1>all at home going crazy. You know, you're you have

0:38:23.360 --> 0:38:26.560
<v Speaker 1>cabin fever, you want to work, you want to do

0:38:26.680 --> 0:38:29.680
<v Speaker 1>your art, you know, and uh, at that time, nothing

0:38:29.760 --> 0:38:33.080
<v Speaker 1>was really happening in the world, you know. So it

0:38:33.239 --> 0:38:35.160
<v Speaker 1>brought us out of that space and brought us into

0:38:35.200 --> 0:38:39.120
<v Speaker 1>this amazing creative space and we all lived together and

0:38:39.160 --> 0:38:42.240
<v Speaker 1>like these amazing huge houses that were right on the beach.

0:38:42.640 --> 0:38:46.239
<v Speaker 1>So it was really like a family a fair like

0:38:46.280 --> 0:38:49.680
<v Speaker 1>a family environment. Uh. And it was just super supportive

0:38:49.800 --> 0:38:52.600
<v Speaker 1>and it was black in the best way because I

0:38:52.640 --> 0:38:56.480
<v Speaker 1>think sometimes unfortunately when people say, oh, it was so black,

0:38:56.880 --> 0:39:00.400
<v Speaker 1>it has a negative connotation to it. Unfortunately, was not

0:39:00.520 --> 0:39:04.920
<v Speaker 1>that this was the best of blackness ever. It was

0:39:05.040 --> 0:39:07.400
<v Speaker 1>so good, and we had a lot of local people

0:39:07.520 --> 0:39:09.479
<v Speaker 1>that brought their flavor to it and they were happy

0:39:09.520 --> 0:39:12.279
<v Speaker 1>to be there. So it was a great experience and

0:39:12.320 --> 0:39:15.120
<v Speaker 1>I think you can see how that spilled over into

0:39:15.160 --> 0:39:17.080
<v Speaker 1>the film and just in the way that we interact

0:39:17.120 --> 0:39:23.040
<v Speaker 1>with each other. I ran Bay Camps, I ran you know,

0:39:23.080 --> 0:39:27.359
<v Speaker 1>sleepaway camps and those. That skill set was important because

0:39:27.360 --> 0:39:30.760
<v Speaker 1>we're flying people from all over the country to Puerto Rico.

0:39:31.200 --> 0:39:34.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm managing housing, right. A good friend of mine own

0:39:34.320 --> 0:39:37.560
<v Speaker 1>all of these properties, which was a blessing, right, um,

0:39:37.640 --> 0:39:40.960
<v Speaker 1>And so I gotta make sure that they're comfortable. I

0:39:41.000 --> 0:39:43.600
<v Speaker 1>gotta make sure that we were together, right, and so

0:39:43.840 --> 0:39:48.080
<v Speaker 1>that I underestimated how much that would impact what they

0:39:48.120 --> 0:39:50.480
<v Speaker 1>did on the screen. I just, you know, make sure

0:39:50.520 --> 0:39:52.799
<v Speaker 1>my people good, right. They're all out here trusting me,

0:39:53.360 --> 0:39:54.839
<v Speaker 1>you know, So I had to make sure they were good.

0:39:55.080 --> 0:39:58.880
<v Speaker 1>But just that feeling of ease to be in a

0:39:58.960 --> 0:40:03.520
<v Speaker 1>comfortable space, it just allowed them to just kill it. Yeah,

0:40:03.600 --> 0:40:07.879
<v Speaker 1>and you know, like what I appreciated it was sexy, definitely,

0:40:08.440 --> 0:40:11.279
<v Speaker 1>And you know, we obviously see scenes where we know

0:40:11.520 --> 0:40:15.279
<v Speaker 1>their sex, but it wasn't oversaturated, Like I didn't feel like,

0:40:15.320 --> 0:40:19.080
<v Speaker 1>all right, we gotta see all the booty all night.

0:40:19.360 --> 0:40:22.240
<v Speaker 1>Everything is out all the time, and it's all about

0:40:22.320 --> 0:40:26.399
<v Speaker 1>selling your body or the other castmates bodies rather than

0:40:26.440 --> 0:40:29.719
<v Speaker 1>selling an actual story. Talk about what it's like to

0:40:29.920 --> 0:40:35.280
<v Speaker 1>write above the standard for what we see in film

0:40:35.480 --> 0:40:38.400
<v Speaker 1>right now, right because there is certain it's not what

0:40:38.480 --> 0:40:43.799
<v Speaker 1>it was to your points, and it's a challenge, but

0:40:43.840 --> 0:40:47.680
<v Speaker 1>it's one that I embraced because the films I love

0:40:47.719 --> 0:40:52.040
<v Speaker 1>of those nineties black films, right, that loving basketball that

0:40:52.640 --> 0:40:56.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, the Wood, you know those films, right. And

0:40:58.120 --> 0:41:00.520
<v Speaker 1>the women in this film are beautiful. The men in

0:41:00.560 --> 0:41:04.360
<v Speaker 1>this film are handsome, put together. You know, my beautiful

0:41:04.400 --> 0:41:07.760
<v Speaker 1>baby lights up the screen every time she shows up. Um,

0:41:07.800 --> 0:41:10.040
<v Speaker 1>you know my niece, you know. And they had a

0:41:10.040 --> 0:41:12.479
<v Speaker 1>different pressure because it's like, are they in the movie

0:41:12.520 --> 0:41:15.560
<v Speaker 1>because that's my daughter and my niece. They were because

0:41:15.560 --> 0:41:21.960
<v Speaker 1>they were They were incredible, and I really like I

0:41:22.000 --> 0:41:25.560
<v Speaker 1>appreciated their professionalism. They did their homework, they had tutors

0:41:26.000 --> 0:41:29.200
<v Speaker 1>out of school for weeks. But I talked to my daughter,

0:41:29.200 --> 0:41:32.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, listen, you have to show that you're not

0:41:33.080 --> 0:41:37.279
<v Speaker 1>here because your name is Kevin Calor. And what she

0:41:37.480 --> 0:41:39.840
<v Speaker 1>did and I'm super biased, of course, but this is

0:41:39.880 --> 0:41:42.560
<v Speaker 1>the feedback. Also, no one else would have done that

0:41:42.640 --> 0:41:46.839
<v Speaker 1>role the way she didn't. And so so yet to

0:41:46.880 --> 0:41:50.719
<v Speaker 1>your point about just staying above the phrase these scripts,

0:41:50.760 --> 0:41:53.560
<v Speaker 1>I've been pitching my films and my scripts across the

0:41:53.560 --> 0:41:57.719
<v Speaker 1>industry for fifteen years. They say no, or they give

0:41:57.760 --> 0:42:00.920
<v Speaker 1>me notes that I can't live with right because they

0:42:00.920 --> 0:42:03.440
<v Speaker 1>want to oversex us, they want to over violence us,

0:42:03.480 --> 0:42:06.319
<v Speaker 1>they want to over curse word us. And you know, I,

0:42:07.200 --> 0:42:09.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, we all who we are, right, We speak,

0:42:09.080 --> 0:42:10.799
<v Speaker 1>how we speak, we are how we act, and I

0:42:10.840 --> 0:42:14.000
<v Speaker 1>love that. I'm not apologizing for that ever. But there

0:42:14.040 --> 0:42:16.720
<v Speaker 1>are so many different layers of who we are black people,

0:42:17.280 --> 0:42:20.799
<v Speaker 1>and we've got enough of the other stuff right, and

0:42:20.880 --> 0:42:24.280
<v Speaker 1>so we can make my whole life again. I'm from hollow,

0:42:24.360 --> 0:42:28.560
<v Speaker 1>from humphy, dirty fat. I have been cool my whole

0:42:28.560 --> 0:42:32.560
<v Speaker 1>life without being anything but who I am. And it's

0:42:32.600 --> 0:42:35.200
<v Speaker 1>too many young people who don't get to be who

0:42:35.200 --> 0:42:40.280
<v Speaker 1>they are because media and imagery doesn't show different types

0:42:40.320 --> 0:42:44.759
<v Speaker 1>of cool, right, And so the films I write I

0:42:44.800 --> 0:42:48.880
<v Speaker 1>will always show different types of cool, different types of beautiful,

0:42:49.160 --> 0:42:52.359
<v Speaker 1>different types other than what's out there. And it's not

0:42:52.400 --> 0:42:55.360
<v Speaker 1>a force because it's this is really life, right, This

0:42:55.440 --> 0:42:57.400
<v Speaker 1>is a real family that went on a vacation for

0:42:57.440 --> 0:43:00.799
<v Speaker 1>a wedding and ship went crazy, right, that's you know.

0:43:00.880 --> 0:43:04.440
<v Speaker 1>And what's more forced is the oversexualization of us, like

0:43:05.760 --> 0:43:08.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, and for me as an actress, it was

0:43:08.680 --> 0:43:13.600
<v Speaker 1>so refreshing to get a character that wasn't hyper sexualized,

0:43:13.680 --> 0:43:16.480
<v Speaker 1>especially just as a black woman in the society that

0:43:16.520 --> 0:43:19.280
<v Speaker 1>we live in. I feel like people want and expect

0:43:19.400 --> 0:43:22.719
<v Speaker 1>us to lead with our sexuality first, is if that's

0:43:22.760 --> 0:43:25.160
<v Speaker 1>the best thing we have to offer, and I think

0:43:25.200 --> 0:43:27.880
<v Speaker 1>we owe more to the kids than that, you know,

0:43:28.000 --> 0:43:29.560
<v Speaker 1>Like the reason why they don't know who they are

0:43:29.640 --> 0:43:32.920
<v Speaker 1>is because during their formative years, that is what they're seeing,

0:43:33.440 --> 0:43:36.319
<v Speaker 1>that is the standard. So they think, maybe that's what

0:43:36.400 --> 0:43:38.240
<v Speaker 1>I should be doing if I want to get ahead,

0:43:38.280 --> 0:43:40.920
<v Speaker 1>because all the women I see who are getting ahead

0:43:41.200 --> 0:43:43.879
<v Speaker 1>are using themselves in their body in that way. So

0:43:43.920 --> 0:43:45.719
<v Speaker 1>I think it's really important to have that kind of

0:43:45.760 --> 0:43:50.120
<v Speaker 1>representation that isn't about that and isn't leading with your body,

0:43:50.239 --> 0:43:52.520
<v Speaker 1>because we have so much more to offer than that.

0:43:54.880 --> 0:44:01.879
<v Speaker 1>Everybody should. Yes, love I love the fact that this

0:44:01.960 --> 0:44:05.960
<v Speaker 1>movie was based more on romance in affection. It was

0:44:06.040 --> 0:44:09.520
<v Speaker 1>that's what black RV. That we exactly, It's an R

0:44:09.600 --> 0:44:12.399
<v Speaker 1>and B movie and we need him. We need RV.

0:44:15.280 --> 0:44:17.640
<v Speaker 1>Don't say I love the energy, you know it made you.

0:44:18.200 --> 0:44:22.120
<v Speaker 1>It brought you back to that nineties nostalgia and and

0:44:22.200 --> 0:44:23.919
<v Speaker 1>that was for me, that was one of the best

0:44:23.920 --> 0:44:26.080
<v Speaker 1>times of black movies. You know what I'm saying even

0:44:26.080 --> 0:44:28.040
<v Speaker 1>though we got a lot of different things, and I'm

0:44:28.080 --> 0:44:31.040
<v Speaker 1>not knocking none of it, but those movies are those

0:44:31.080 --> 0:44:33.319
<v Speaker 1>are the classics, and they don't go away. And ever

0:44:33.719 --> 0:44:36.920
<v Speaker 1>this movie has the potential to go into that, you know,

0:44:37.040 --> 0:44:39.640
<v Speaker 1>into that realm. So you know, I want to congratulate you,

0:44:40.920 --> 0:44:43.600
<v Speaker 1>because that's the goal, Like I want to be. I

0:44:43.640 --> 0:44:47.200
<v Speaker 1>want where you can on a weekend and snow and

0:44:47.200 --> 0:44:51.000
<v Speaker 1>and you're watching Loving Basketball and then Aurora, right like

0:44:51.120 --> 0:44:53.600
<v Speaker 1>you want like where it just flows. You're watching Brown

0:44:53.640 --> 0:44:56.759
<v Speaker 1>Sugar and Aurora, you know, and it's like, oh, these

0:44:56.800 --> 0:44:59.560
<v Speaker 1>are the movies were watching with my girls, with my

0:44:59.719 --> 0:45:02.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, couples, retreat whatever. Like I want to fit

0:45:02.960 --> 0:45:05.520
<v Speaker 1>in that space. That's my ambition is to be that

0:45:05.719 --> 0:45:09.080
<v Speaker 1>storyteller that that fits in that space. And that's again,

0:45:09.120 --> 0:45:11.640
<v Speaker 1>I got a lot of films that we're gonna keep

0:45:11.640 --> 0:45:14.319
<v Speaker 1>fighting and make them this way, you know, and not

0:45:14.480 --> 0:45:17.839
<v Speaker 1>let you know the others, you know, shift that. Let's

0:45:17.880 --> 0:45:22.040
<v Speaker 1>talk about that fighting, right because this industry is, as

0:45:22.120 --> 0:45:25.640
<v Speaker 1>you said, it's weird, it's nasty, it's hard to break

0:45:25.719 --> 0:45:29.680
<v Speaker 1>into um and you all, I mean you like, I

0:45:29.719 --> 0:45:32.520
<v Speaker 1>know you you know, this is not the first time

0:45:32.560 --> 0:45:34.440
<v Speaker 1>that I'm seeing you on screen like in fact, when

0:45:34.480 --> 0:45:38.319
<v Speaker 1>you when your character appears, I'm like, oh, this is

0:45:38.320 --> 0:45:41.480
<v Speaker 1>gonna be good. Right to bias the same thing, Oh

0:45:41.560 --> 0:45:43.960
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean? There was several characters that

0:45:44.040 --> 0:45:47.680
<v Speaker 1>I know, so you didn't have. There wasn't a B

0:45:48.800 --> 0:45:52.400
<v Speaker 1>minus film. This is a list here. These are people

0:45:52.440 --> 0:45:57.440
<v Speaker 1>who are real actresses and real actors, and I guess

0:45:57.480 --> 0:46:00.640
<v Speaker 1>that helps. But even with that, if you don't provide

0:46:00.680 --> 0:46:03.520
<v Speaker 1>the violence that whatever it is, you still can get

0:46:03.600 --> 0:46:07.279
<v Speaker 1>shut down right in the industry. So how difficult is

0:46:07.320 --> 0:46:11.120
<v Speaker 1>it to make the money necessary to keep this type

0:46:11.200 --> 0:46:15.880
<v Speaker 1>of writing and this type of experience on or to

0:46:15.920 --> 0:46:19.319
<v Speaker 1>get it to the mainstream level? Put it that way. Um,

0:46:19.360 --> 0:46:21.920
<v Speaker 1>I always use the analogy is it's so fud or

0:46:21.920 --> 0:46:25.560
<v Speaker 1>it's fast food. Right, I'm making so for it's harder.

0:46:25.640 --> 0:46:29.080
<v Speaker 1>You got seasoned chicken, You got clean the chicken, right, y'all,

0:46:29.120 --> 0:46:32.400
<v Speaker 1>Let y'all let the grease get hot, right, like you

0:46:32.440 --> 0:46:35.160
<v Speaker 1>could pop the nuggets in the microwave. Everybody eat, but

0:46:35.239 --> 0:46:38.960
<v Speaker 1>you're not fulfilled, right, And so yes, it's it's absolutely

0:46:38.960 --> 0:46:44.080
<v Speaker 1>a fight, right because the people who make decisions don't

0:46:44.160 --> 0:46:49.080
<v Speaker 1>trust our intelligence as a culture, as an audience. They say,

0:46:49.120 --> 0:46:51.920
<v Speaker 1>this is what your people want to see, and I say,

0:46:51.960 --> 0:46:55.279
<v Speaker 1>you've got some nerves telling me what my people want

0:46:55.280 --> 0:46:58.000
<v Speaker 1>to see. I've lived like I didn't come up in Hollywood.

0:46:58.440 --> 0:47:02.560
<v Speaker 1>I live with this art camps like I'm in and among.

0:47:02.640 --> 0:47:06.360
<v Speaker 1>I still coach girls, I'm among the audience, right, I

0:47:06.440 --> 0:47:11.719
<v Speaker 1>know what we're craving for. Right, And so I again, Joachima,

0:47:11.760 --> 0:47:15.120
<v Speaker 1>you said these are not beatless anything. You know, these

0:47:15.120 --> 0:47:20.000
<v Speaker 1>are star actors and actresses that just need to screen. Right.

0:47:20.080 --> 0:47:23.080
<v Speaker 1>But they sit across that desk and they tell you, oh,

0:47:23.160 --> 0:47:25.120
<v Speaker 1>you don't have I got. I'm not gonna shout them

0:47:25.160 --> 0:47:26.640
<v Speaker 1>out because we might need to do business with them.

0:47:26.640 --> 0:47:30.399
<v Speaker 1>But I got a really big distributor. We they liked

0:47:30.440 --> 0:47:33.719
<v Speaker 1>the movie. They said, they wrote a glowing rejection letter.

0:47:34.880 --> 0:47:40.360
<v Speaker 1>Amazing storytelling, cinematography is brilliant, the acting was great. But

0:47:40.600 --> 0:47:46.240
<v Speaker 1>these names don't meet our criteria for distribution. That's direct

0:47:46.320 --> 0:47:50.200
<v Speaker 1>to my face on on paper, right, with the big

0:47:50.320 --> 0:47:53.440
<v Speaker 1>letter head at the top from one of the big boys, right,

0:47:53.440 --> 0:47:56.839
<v Speaker 1>And this is what they do. And so I take

0:47:56.920 --> 0:47:59.719
<v Speaker 1>that and I'm like, because I'm defying, I'm like, no,

0:47:59.840 --> 0:48:03.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm making it with the right people, right, because we

0:48:03.080 --> 0:48:06.480
<v Speaker 1>can keep recycling this fifty something or old woman to

0:48:06.560 --> 0:48:10.320
<v Speaker 1>play this twenty is something you old bride and smack

0:48:10.360 --> 0:48:13.000
<v Speaker 1>a bunch of makeup on her and and and get

0:48:13.040 --> 0:48:16.440
<v Speaker 1>that deal right, because they trust that that person has

0:48:16.480 --> 0:48:19.399
<v Speaker 1>an audience. But how much will you compromise in order

0:48:19.440 --> 0:48:23.759
<v Speaker 1>to to like, obviously all of us have to compromise. Um,

0:48:23.840 --> 0:48:27.200
<v Speaker 1>So that's that's my fight. My wife's an accountant, that's

0:48:27.200 --> 0:48:31.279
<v Speaker 1>our fight because she's like, uh, you know what we're doing.

0:48:32.160 --> 0:48:35.360
<v Speaker 1>But but I trust the process, I really do. I

0:48:35.480 --> 0:48:38.080
<v Speaker 1>trust our audience. And that's really what it comes down

0:48:38.080 --> 0:48:41.760
<v Speaker 1>to write the same way we tweet and post and

0:48:41.760 --> 0:48:45.799
<v Speaker 1>and and argue. There are topics in this film to discuss. Right.

0:48:45.920 --> 0:48:49.120
<v Speaker 1>If that discussion hits social media and people talk about

0:48:49.200 --> 0:48:51.839
<v Speaker 1>it and then people engage, then it shows that this

0:48:51.880 --> 0:48:56.360
<v Speaker 1>film has an audience these I don't think it's a bias.

0:48:56.480 --> 0:48:58.560
<v Speaker 1>I think they care about money. The people that we

0:48:58.600 --> 0:49:01.440
<v Speaker 1>need to support us on the the side of the desk, right,

0:49:01.480 --> 0:49:04.440
<v Speaker 1>who are not always white people. Right. I've got some

0:49:04.480 --> 0:49:07.600
<v Speaker 1>of the worst critiques from our people in terms of

0:49:07.640 --> 0:49:10.480
<v Speaker 1>what they try to make me make to a certain networks.

0:49:10.520 --> 0:49:13.319
<v Speaker 1>I don't even entertain I don't want to deal in

0:49:13.360 --> 0:49:16.200
<v Speaker 1>certain places. Again, I'm not here to start no fights.

0:49:16.440 --> 0:49:19.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna say no names. But there are networks

0:49:19.000 --> 0:49:24.040
<v Speaker 1>where I'm like, I'm good because they're not for the culture, right,

0:49:24.120 --> 0:49:26.680
<v Speaker 1>and and we don't have to get on the soapbox

0:49:26.719 --> 0:49:28.320
<v Speaker 1>and pound our chest to be for the culture. We

0:49:28.400 --> 0:49:31.200
<v Speaker 1>just gotta be respectful to it. And so yes, I

0:49:31.239 --> 0:49:34.799
<v Speaker 1>will I do compromise in as long as I could

0:49:34.840 --> 0:49:37.160
<v Speaker 1>look at myself in the mirror, right, like I'm not

0:49:37.200 --> 0:49:40.799
<v Speaker 1>gonna embarrass us ever, Like y'all y'all could trust that,

0:49:40.960 --> 0:49:44.600
<v Speaker 1>like if my trajectory and what what I'm building and

0:49:44.680 --> 0:49:47.560
<v Speaker 1>what I'm doing. We're shooting another movie in five weeks, right,

0:49:47.600 --> 0:49:49.640
<v Speaker 1>another one in the summer, like I'm not gonna stop,

0:49:50.200 --> 0:49:52.960
<v Speaker 1>and ultimately people will start to trust my voice and

0:49:52.960 --> 0:49:56.680
<v Speaker 1>then the audience will build once that happens. Y'all gotta

0:49:56.719 --> 0:50:00.400
<v Speaker 1>worry about me, like, I'm never gonna embarrass us, always

0:50:00.400 --> 0:50:03.080
<v Speaker 1>gonna make sure we're good, right, And it's just about

0:50:03.080 --> 0:50:06.400
<v Speaker 1>earning that. That's what I think. That's I think you

0:50:06.480 --> 0:50:09.080
<v Speaker 1>sound a lot like us in the work that we do.

0:50:09.200 --> 0:50:12.239
<v Speaker 1>You know, we we fight against the social norms, We

0:50:12.320 --> 0:50:14.799
<v Speaker 1>fight against the status quo. They told us we can't

0:50:14.840 --> 0:50:17.040
<v Speaker 1>do it this way, and why don't y'all say it

0:50:17.080 --> 0:50:20.760
<v Speaker 1>this way? Even with our podcasts, we deal with things

0:50:20.800 --> 0:50:24.160
<v Speaker 1>and of that age understand you know what I'm saying.

0:50:24.160 --> 0:50:26.359
<v Speaker 1>We understand that we're fighting an uphill battle. But we

0:50:26.400 --> 0:50:29.680
<v Speaker 1>know when we get what we got, we're good and

0:50:29.719 --> 0:50:31.560
<v Speaker 1>the people who would support us is good. What you

0:50:31.640 --> 0:50:33.359
<v Speaker 1>we We're not gonna like you said, We're not gonna

0:50:33.400 --> 0:50:35.640
<v Speaker 1>let your dad, We're not co embarrass you. We're gonna

0:50:35.680 --> 0:50:38.440
<v Speaker 1>always stay in firm in our convictions because we know

0:50:38.520 --> 0:50:40.680
<v Speaker 1>what it's like to be where we from. We know

0:50:40.760 --> 0:50:42.560
<v Speaker 1>what we want, we know what we need, we know

0:50:42.640 --> 0:50:45.560
<v Speaker 1>what our people want from us, so we're not willing

0:50:45.560 --> 0:50:49.240
<v Speaker 1>to compromise that to be to fit into certain rooms,

0:50:49.560 --> 0:50:51.239
<v Speaker 1>you know. And it's it's it's like you said, it's

0:50:51.280 --> 0:50:54.799
<v Speaker 1>it's so food is a slow process. But every time

0:50:54.840 --> 0:50:58.799
<v Speaker 1>we get another level, it's more because we know we

0:50:58.840 --> 0:51:02.560
<v Speaker 1>didn't compromise, especially our moss and our values, what we

0:51:02.640 --> 0:51:05.640
<v Speaker 1>definitely still on. So I appreciate you. I floored y'all,

0:51:06.000 --> 0:51:08.439
<v Speaker 1>and we know this movie is gonna do great. You

0:51:08.440 --> 0:51:10.520
<v Speaker 1>guys have you have what it takes, you know, I

0:51:10.600 --> 0:51:13.080
<v Speaker 1>just want to. I want you to tell we've seen

0:51:13.080 --> 0:51:16.080
<v Speaker 1>the movie. I want you the people watching, each of

0:51:16.120 --> 0:51:18.480
<v Speaker 1>y'all tell them why should they go see the movie? Right?

0:51:21.000 --> 0:51:23.799
<v Speaker 1>I say that this is a movie that will get

0:51:23.840 --> 0:51:26.520
<v Speaker 1>you thinking. This is a movie that will get you talking,

0:51:26.880 --> 0:51:28.680
<v Speaker 1>no matter who you watch it with. You can watch

0:51:28.719 --> 0:51:31.279
<v Speaker 1>it alone. You can watch it with your boot cuddled up.

0:51:31.320 --> 0:51:33.600
<v Speaker 1>You can watch it with your girls, and there's a

0:51:33.680 --> 0:51:37.560
<v Speaker 1>conversation to be had that will be mentally stimulating and

0:51:37.640 --> 0:51:41.240
<v Speaker 1>we'll be entertaining and we'll you know, get the blood flowing.

0:51:41.400 --> 0:51:45.759
<v Speaker 1>So you will thoroughly enjoy this film. See it, yes,

0:51:45.920 --> 0:51:48.760
<v Speaker 1>and you can see it anywhere. Again, we're in dirty cities.

0:51:49.800 --> 0:51:52.080
<v Speaker 1>We know it's it's cold on most of the country,

0:51:52.080 --> 0:51:54.040
<v Speaker 1>so you don't have to go outside. You can watch

0:51:54.040 --> 0:51:56.920
<v Speaker 1>it at home. Amazon is an easy one, but it's

0:51:56.960 --> 0:52:00.440
<v Speaker 1>on all digital platforms. Whatever your cable says them is

0:52:00.480 --> 0:52:02.600
<v Speaker 1>that you people still got that, you know, go to

0:52:02.640 --> 0:52:04.600
<v Speaker 1>your pay per view. You can just search a Rural

0:52:04.719 --> 0:52:08.120
<v Speaker 1>Love Story and it's available, and you should watch it

0:52:08.200 --> 0:52:12.640
<v Speaker 1>because it's told in your voice. Is for us, um,

0:52:12.640 --> 0:52:17.120
<v Speaker 1>it's by us. It's unapologetically black, UM, but it's not

0:52:17.560 --> 0:52:20.479
<v Speaker 1>black for black sake at no point in this movie

0:52:20.520 --> 0:52:23.560
<v Speaker 1>or we're trying to prove our blackness right, which with

0:52:23.719 --> 0:52:26.239
<v Speaker 1>language and just certain That's what I also hate when

0:52:26.239 --> 0:52:33.280
<v Speaker 1>it's I can't be anything else right, Like my daughter can't.

0:52:33.320 --> 0:52:35.480
<v Speaker 1>She's in private school and she's living in a different life,

0:52:35.480 --> 0:52:38.560
<v Speaker 1>but she's still not even removed enough to be anything

0:52:38.560 --> 0:52:42.600
<v Speaker 1>else right, And so we don't have to force it um.

0:52:42.640 --> 0:52:45.520
<v Speaker 1>And I think this is a movie aside from just

0:52:45.640 --> 0:52:49.600
<v Speaker 1>who Joachima said, this is a multigenerational cast and a

0:52:49.680 --> 0:52:52.880
<v Speaker 1>multigenerational story, right. There's something for the teenagers and the

0:52:53.000 --> 0:52:57.200
<v Speaker 1>young kids that can gravitate towards those characters, there's something

0:52:57.239 --> 0:53:00.440
<v Speaker 1>for the elders who can gravitate towards the parents, and

0:53:00.440 --> 0:53:03.960
<v Speaker 1>then for everybody else in between. So yeah, I'm super

0:53:04.000 --> 0:53:06.360
<v Speaker 1>super proud, like you said, when you when you get

0:53:07.080 --> 0:53:08.600
<v Speaker 1>something like this and you're able to put it on

0:53:08.640 --> 0:53:11.920
<v Speaker 1>the screen despite whatever hurdles you had to go through.

0:53:12.560 --> 0:53:15.520
<v Speaker 1>It feels so much better that I never have to

0:53:15.560 --> 0:53:18.760
<v Speaker 1>sit watching this and say, man, I wish I wouldn't

0:53:18.760 --> 0:53:22.279
<v Speaker 1>have listened to some and something right wherever happens with it.

0:53:22.680 --> 0:53:28.200
<v Speaker 1>I love you so how when you when you finish

0:53:28.239 --> 0:53:31.120
<v Speaker 1>a movie. How does it feel like for me when

0:53:31.120 --> 0:53:33.719
<v Speaker 1>I'm watching a series or something and it's over, I'm

0:53:33.760 --> 0:53:37.360
<v Speaker 1>just like life is over, Like, you know, like where's

0:53:37.440 --> 0:53:39.920
<v Speaker 1>life now? I gotta find new life. So, like, what

0:53:40.120 --> 0:53:43.160
<v Speaker 1>happens to you at the end of a filming process,

0:53:43.239 --> 0:53:45.680
<v Speaker 1>especially with something like this. Are you just tired and

0:53:45.680 --> 0:53:47.680
<v Speaker 1>you're like that's it? Or do you have a feeling

0:53:47.760 --> 0:53:50.799
<v Speaker 1>like a little hole for the people and the experience.

0:53:51.360 --> 0:53:55.200
<v Speaker 1>You know, it varies per project, but I will say that,

0:53:55.320 --> 0:53:58.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, like Noel said, he has other movies coming out,

0:53:58.239 --> 0:53:59.640
<v Speaker 1>so we all knew we were going to see each

0:53:59.680 --> 0:54:02.840
<v Speaker 1>other again in that will be working on future projects together.

0:54:03.239 --> 0:54:05.879
<v Speaker 1>But of course this a little bitter sweet, right because

0:54:05.880 --> 0:54:09.040
<v Speaker 1>you're like, wow, this was amazing, Like Puerto Rico, this

0:54:09.200 --> 0:54:13.520
<v Speaker 1>experience just like the you know, when you work with

0:54:13.560 --> 0:54:15.560
<v Speaker 1>your own people, there's so much it doesn't even have

0:54:15.600 --> 0:54:19.160
<v Speaker 1>to be said or explained. There's just this layer of

0:54:19.280 --> 0:54:22.759
<v Speaker 1>support under you and uh, just having to go into

0:54:22.800 --> 0:54:25.879
<v Speaker 1>your next project knowing that you probably won't have that.

0:54:26.120 --> 0:54:28.239
<v Speaker 1>You're gonna have to get used to going back to

0:54:28.320 --> 0:54:33.600
<v Speaker 1>being like, you know, your own advocate for every single thing. Um,

0:54:33.640 --> 0:54:35.400
<v Speaker 1>but you can you kind of just brace yourself and

0:54:35.440 --> 0:54:37.520
<v Speaker 1>you say, well, I'm gonna look forward to the next

0:54:37.560 --> 0:54:39.640
<v Speaker 1>time I can get back to these people, the next

0:54:39.680 --> 0:54:42.319
<v Speaker 1>time I get back to a project that has this

0:54:42.400 --> 0:54:46.239
<v Speaker 1>type of love involved in it. So we need more, right, Like,

0:54:46.280 --> 0:54:49.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm not here to be the one, you know, I

0:54:49.200 --> 0:54:51.680
<v Speaker 1>want to. I want ten directors to come out of

0:54:51.680 --> 0:54:57.439
<v Speaker 1>our camp, right, male female, black breath right where those

0:54:57.480 --> 0:55:00.680
<v Speaker 1>sets look and feel like that? Right? Know how crazy

0:55:00.680 --> 0:55:02.040
<v Speaker 1>we were going to making sure we have the right

0:55:02.080 --> 0:55:05.040
<v Speaker 1>hair and makeup in Puerto Rico. That's the thing, Like,

0:55:05.239 --> 0:55:07.560
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't going to play with these women, know. So

0:55:07.760 --> 0:55:12.200
<v Speaker 1>I I have a friend who is a superstar um

0:55:12.239 --> 0:55:16.359
<v Speaker 1>that we won't name. Today, when I was dealing with

0:55:16.440 --> 0:55:19.440
<v Speaker 1>some entertainment industry stuff, I was like, you know, going

0:55:19.480 --> 0:55:22.520
<v Speaker 1>to a meeting to make a statement about something they

0:55:22.520 --> 0:55:25.319
<v Speaker 1>weren't doing. Right, she calls me up and it's like, hey,

0:55:25.360 --> 0:55:27.080
<v Speaker 1>I need you to put this on your list of

0:55:27.480 --> 0:55:31.560
<v Speaker 1>things hair and makeup. And I'm thinking to myself, this

0:55:31.760 --> 0:55:34.320
<v Speaker 1>is a superstar. When I say supert, I'm talking about

0:55:34.880 --> 0:55:38.560
<v Speaker 1>like big, big, big, big, Right, Why don't you have

0:55:38.719 --> 0:55:40.880
<v Speaker 1>black people doing your hair and makeup? What are you

0:55:40.960 --> 0:55:44.279
<v Speaker 1>talking about? You? Like, I'm thinking she's walking in the

0:55:44.320 --> 0:55:48.120
<v Speaker 1>door with everybody with her hair makeup. No, she said,

0:55:48.239 --> 0:55:52.279
<v Speaker 1>it is basically white and it's happened to me. But

0:55:52.320 --> 0:55:56.359
<v Speaker 1>by the way, there are a few magazine articles I

0:55:56.400 --> 0:55:59.359
<v Speaker 1>think maybe I don't know if it's vanity, but it's

0:55:59.440 --> 0:56:02.640
<v Speaker 1>one of them that is like a big magazine that

0:56:02.719 --> 0:56:07.439
<v Speaker 1>I'm in during the Women's March, and I look terrible. Yes,

0:56:07.520 --> 0:56:10.600
<v Speaker 1>And when you feel like you look terrible, you don't

0:56:10.960 --> 0:56:14.360
<v Speaker 1>present yourself the same. You got low self esteem, terrible.

0:56:14.560 --> 0:56:17.279
<v Speaker 1>So I started paying because during the Women's March, we

0:56:17.280 --> 0:56:19.640
<v Speaker 1>were doing a major press all the time. If you

0:56:19.719 --> 0:56:22.960
<v Speaker 1>see the cover of Glamor magazine that I'm on, that

0:56:23.080 --> 0:56:25.560
<v Speaker 1>is my own makeup artist that I had to bring.

0:56:25.640 --> 0:56:27.719
<v Speaker 1>And by the way, they don't even want you to

0:56:27.800 --> 0:56:30.879
<v Speaker 1>have that person there. They tried to put her through

0:56:30.920 --> 0:56:33.080
<v Speaker 1>all types of hoops and things. She had to have

0:56:33.120 --> 0:56:35.359
<v Speaker 1>the right insurance. She had. She couldn't be on the

0:56:35.400 --> 0:56:38.480
<v Speaker 1>thing without a million dollars worth of insurance. It was

0:56:38.560 --> 0:56:45.319
<v Speaker 1>so much drama. But why would a white woman do

0:56:45.440 --> 0:56:48.000
<v Speaker 1>my Why I don't even understand what we're I think

0:56:48.040 --> 0:56:51.480
<v Speaker 1>that sometimes they are genuinely convinced that they can do

0:56:51.560 --> 0:56:53.680
<v Speaker 1>your hair. What do you mean I can't do your hair.

0:56:53.840 --> 0:56:57.120
<v Speaker 1>I brought some oil sheet, right, I have an edge comb.

0:56:57.640 --> 0:57:01.200
<v Speaker 1>I can do your hair. Yes, Google, I watched one

0:57:01.280 --> 0:57:04.120
<v Speaker 1>YouTube video and I know what I'm doing. How dare you?

0:57:04.160 --> 0:57:06.839
<v Speaker 1>How dare you? And that is the energy they give you,

0:57:07.080 --> 0:57:10.440
<v Speaker 1>And sometimes it feels like a microaggression, but sometimes it's

0:57:10.520 --> 0:57:13.440
<v Speaker 1>just aggressive. There's no micro about it. They come for

0:57:13.520 --> 0:57:15.839
<v Speaker 1>you when you speak up for yourself and say I

0:57:15.880 --> 0:57:18.600
<v Speaker 1>feel uncomfortable. I need someone who knows how to do

0:57:18.680 --> 0:57:20.880
<v Speaker 1>my hair. You see how these other women can come

0:57:20.880 --> 0:57:22.960
<v Speaker 1>in with wet hair and you can do their hair

0:57:22.960 --> 0:57:24.800
<v Speaker 1>from start to finish. I had to stay up till

0:57:24.800 --> 0:57:26.800
<v Speaker 1>one o'clock in the morning doing my own hair and

0:57:26.800 --> 0:57:28.640
<v Speaker 1>then wake up early to make sure it looks good

0:57:28.680 --> 0:57:31.320
<v Speaker 1>before I even get here, because if I don't, I

0:57:31.360 --> 0:57:34.400
<v Speaker 1>will look crazy. Wow, Yo, the wet like you could

0:57:34.400 --> 0:57:37.600
<v Speaker 1>show up here and get a blowout and look famulous.

0:57:38.240 --> 0:57:41.640
<v Speaker 1>You're set. I gotta do a thing. Yes, I have

0:57:41.760 --> 0:57:44.760
<v Speaker 1>to come done, and then try to argue with you

0:57:44.800 --> 0:57:47.560
<v Speaker 1>so you don't touch you to mess it up exactly,

0:57:47.680 --> 0:57:51.600
<v Speaker 1>want to change it. So you're spending money. You're spending

0:57:51.720 --> 0:57:57.800
<v Speaker 1>money outside of the budget for what's supposed to be right,

0:57:57.960 --> 0:58:01.280
<v Speaker 1>you're spending money trying to make your self look presentable,

0:58:01.320 --> 0:58:03.720
<v Speaker 1>because then if you don't look presentable, then you're not acceptable.

0:58:03.760 --> 0:58:06.800
<v Speaker 1>And then it's it's like you, we're constantly running through

0:58:07.040 --> 0:58:10.680
<v Speaker 1>and around and it's not us when it's not. And

0:58:10.720 --> 0:58:13.760
<v Speaker 1>that's that's why I like, we can make a list

0:58:14.120 --> 0:58:18.720
<v Speaker 1>a mile long of why we need more our own right.

0:58:18.840 --> 0:58:20.960
<v Speaker 1>And there are things that go on. You know, you

0:58:21.000 --> 0:58:24.000
<v Speaker 1>don't even think about that, right, And I would not

0:58:24.080 --> 0:58:27.000
<v Speaker 1>have thought about that had I not had a daughter now, right,

0:58:27.040 --> 0:58:31.720
<v Speaker 1>Like I have a teenage daughter, right, so she has friends, right,

0:58:33.040 --> 0:58:36.840
<v Speaker 1>that's my group with them. I'm the magic school bus.

0:58:36.840 --> 0:58:41.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I'm with them, So they're plight. Is my plight? Right?

0:58:41.160 --> 0:58:44.000
<v Speaker 1>And so and again I have a wife, a black wife, right,

0:58:44.040 --> 0:58:47.720
<v Speaker 1>and so my black sisters. So when I'm going into

0:58:47.720 --> 0:58:49.280
<v Speaker 1>a film and I'm thinking about the script and I'm

0:58:49.320 --> 0:58:52.479
<v Speaker 1>thinking about this, at some point, is that light bulb

0:58:52.640 --> 0:58:56.600
<v Speaker 1>like who the right? Who go through the hare in

0:58:56.640 --> 0:59:00.440
<v Speaker 1>Puerto Rica? And so I'm like, oh, do I have

0:59:00.480 --> 0:59:03.600
<v Speaker 1>to fly out hair and makeup because I have trusted

0:59:03.600 --> 0:59:06.720
<v Speaker 1>hair and makeup hair for all of my production, which

0:59:06.800 --> 0:59:12.880
<v Speaker 1>is predominantly black. It's crazy. It's crazy, But there are people.

0:59:13.280 --> 0:59:14.760
<v Speaker 1>I give them a lot of credit. A lot of

0:59:14.800 --> 0:59:16.360
<v Speaker 1>them came up with me. A lot of them I

0:59:16.400 --> 0:59:19.480
<v Speaker 1>gave their first opportunity to put anything on screen. So

0:59:19.680 --> 0:59:21.840
<v Speaker 1>when I don't have the budget, they still show up

0:59:22.360 --> 0:59:24.600
<v Speaker 1>because they know when I have it, I'm not taking it.

0:59:24.680 --> 0:59:27.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm paying you, right, And so yeah, just all of

0:59:27.840 --> 0:59:30.440
<v Speaker 1>the different things that I'm sure you guys. Again, that's

0:59:30.440 --> 0:59:33.560
<v Speaker 1>why this wasn't honor because you getting your hair and

0:59:33.600 --> 0:59:36.560
<v Speaker 1>makeup done to go and do press. It's like you're

0:59:36.600 --> 0:59:40.160
<v Speaker 1>supposed to be fighting. No, no, I still have to.

0:59:40.240 --> 0:59:43.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm a professional. This is going to carry like. It's

0:59:43.240 --> 0:59:48.040
<v Speaker 1>just the craziness that that you got to endure terrible.

0:59:48.520 --> 0:59:53.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm gonna I'm actually gonna show you I looked.

0:59:53.400 --> 0:59:55.000
<v Speaker 1>It's like I have a hat on my head, but

0:59:55.040 --> 0:59:59.919
<v Speaker 1>it's actual hair. But it's like, you know, I feel

1:00:00.000 --> 1:00:04.560
<v Speaker 1>that in myself, you know, but ain't gonna They don't

1:00:04.600 --> 1:00:10.760
<v Speaker 1>care how it happens. They forgetting the message. I forgot

1:00:10.760 --> 1:00:13.720
<v Speaker 1>the message. Whether you want to or not, you're representing

1:00:14.040 --> 1:00:17.200
<v Speaker 1>so many other women. You didn't ask for that. Maybe

1:00:17.200 --> 1:00:19.480
<v Speaker 1>that's not what you want some days, but when you're

1:00:19.480 --> 1:00:22.680
<v Speaker 1>representing a whole movement and a whole group of people,

1:00:23.160 --> 1:00:25.680
<v Speaker 1>and then you feel terrible and you feel like you

1:00:25.680 --> 1:00:29.080
<v Speaker 1>look terrible. That's that's an awful situation. It is. I

1:00:29.760 --> 1:00:32.000
<v Speaker 1>appreciate us being able to have this part of the

1:00:32.040 --> 1:00:35.160
<v Speaker 1>conversation because I feel like I had a therapy session.

1:00:36.040 --> 1:00:44.720
<v Speaker 1>And definitely, and as I should know, as I should,

1:00:44.800 --> 1:00:47.520
<v Speaker 1>she serious, and she and she notices it, like in

1:00:47.600 --> 1:00:50.840
<v Speaker 1>different other things, she sees other blackfooms. No, they're not

1:00:50.880 --> 1:00:53.240
<v Speaker 1>doing this right. People need to be focused on this,

1:00:53.960 --> 1:00:56.200
<v Speaker 1>but I didn't see that in this film. Yeah, it's

1:00:56.200 --> 1:00:58.840
<v Speaker 1>a problem. When I, like I said, when I got

1:00:58.920 --> 1:01:02.200
<v Speaker 1>this call to add to my list of demands that

1:01:02.240 --> 1:01:05.240
<v Speaker 1>I was making in this meeting that I needed to

1:01:05.280 --> 1:01:07.960
<v Speaker 1>talk about hair and makeup, I thought that was not

1:01:08.080 --> 1:01:12.840
<v Speaker 1>a thing at her level. So this is a systemic problem.

1:01:13.080 --> 1:01:15.120
<v Speaker 1>And you know, like you said, it's just one of

1:01:15.200 --> 1:01:19.400
<v Speaker 1>the many reasons why we need more of us being

1:01:19.440 --> 1:01:23.280
<v Speaker 1>in the director's seat, having the budget, having the ability

1:01:23.360 --> 1:01:25.680
<v Speaker 1>to bring things to life. And you said you are

1:01:26.440 --> 1:01:28.520
<v Speaker 1>writer and director, but then I just heard you say

1:01:28.600 --> 1:01:32.120
<v Speaker 1>that you were managing where people were sleeping. So you are,

1:01:32.360 --> 1:01:39.680
<v Speaker 1>you're the writer, the director, the manager, everything, but that's

1:01:39.680 --> 1:01:43.880
<v Speaker 1>what we have to do. That's what that's right. So

1:01:44.080 --> 1:01:46.720
<v Speaker 1>we don't, right, And that's like every time I do

1:01:46.760 --> 1:01:50.520
<v Speaker 1>a project, I build more team, right, Like, so now

1:01:50.520 --> 1:01:52.800
<v Speaker 1>I have more people that are good, that are talented

1:01:52.840 --> 1:01:55.680
<v Speaker 1>that I can trust, right, because one thing I couldn't

1:01:55.720 --> 1:01:57.680
<v Speaker 1>do is leave anything to chance that we were putting

1:01:57.720 --> 1:02:00.160
<v Speaker 1>on the screen right, right, So I had to have

1:02:00.240 --> 1:02:04.080
<v Speaker 1>my hand in every aspect of it, almost maniacally because

1:02:05.200 --> 1:02:08.560
<v Speaker 1>there there are people, our people and other people who

1:02:08.560 --> 1:02:12.800
<v Speaker 1>are looking to say, see, it's not that good, right,

1:02:12.920 --> 1:02:17.640
<v Speaker 1>see look at this right, And so I've been getting compliments.

1:02:17.720 --> 1:02:21.960
<v Speaker 1>Some of them are offensive, like it's so well made,

1:02:22.320 --> 1:02:34.400
<v Speaker 1>the production looks clean, like almost twenty I've made mistakes,

1:02:34.800 --> 1:02:38.000
<v Speaker 1>I've made bad stuff that people will never see. I've

1:02:38.040 --> 1:02:40.880
<v Speaker 1>made okay stuff that have come out and people liked it,

1:02:40.920 --> 1:02:44.520
<v Speaker 1>and I look at it like right, And so now

1:02:44.560 --> 1:02:46.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm getting to a point where I'm finding it like

1:02:46.840 --> 1:02:50.920
<v Speaker 1>I know how to do this, and so yeah, it's good.

1:02:50.960 --> 1:02:53.360
<v Speaker 1>It's gonna be more and and I'm just gonna empower

1:02:53.440 --> 1:02:57.520
<v Speaker 1>more of us and keep bringing us along. Um from again.

1:02:57.520 --> 1:02:59.600
<v Speaker 1>My daughter's producing the next movie. She's not in it.

1:03:00.000 --> 1:03:01.880
<v Speaker 1>She wants to be behind the scenes. She wants to,

1:03:02.440 --> 1:03:06.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, and so she's a producer and she's killing

1:03:06.200 --> 1:03:09.560
<v Speaker 1>me because she's like, she saw things that were challenges

1:03:09.600 --> 1:03:13.320
<v Speaker 1>that she has now found solutions for. So she's telling

1:03:13.320 --> 1:03:14.920
<v Speaker 1>me this is we're not going to do this like

1:03:14.960 --> 1:03:22.520
<v Speaker 1>this next time. UM, something like absolutely, yeah, amazing, Aurora.

1:03:22.880 --> 1:03:25.960
<v Speaker 1>I look forward to the future, you know, to the movies.

1:03:26.000 --> 1:03:31.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna be Yeah. I really appreciate the film. I

1:03:31.800 --> 1:03:35.640
<v Speaker 1>appreciate the energy that you guys have, the karateie. Just

1:03:35.680 --> 1:03:38.000
<v Speaker 1>watching the film, you can tell that there's love, real,

1:03:38.440 --> 1:03:40.840
<v Speaker 1>real synergy and love this. So go out and watch

1:03:40.880 --> 1:03:45.960
<v Speaker 1>the world and talk about it. Tell us who you hate,

1:03:46.000 --> 1:03:48.680
<v Speaker 1>tell us who you like. I love the dimensions of love.

1:03:49.440 --> 1:03:51.040
<v Speaker 1>That's what it is. Because a lot of people won't

1:03:51.120 --> 1:03:53.160
<v Speaker 1>understand certain dimensions of love. Do you look at him

1:03:53.200 --> 1:03:55.640
<v Speaker 1>and be like, what do you look at him? You

1:03:55.720 --> 1:04:00.880
<v Speaker 1>got a crazy system. You got it, the sister thing,

1:04:01.920 --> 1:04:11.360
<v Speaker 1>protective love. Make sure you go out and support Aurora. No, yes,

1:04:11.560 --> 1:04:16.400
<v Speaker 1>Noel Callaway and Joachim Mahalis listen. Aurora is the thing

1:04:16.480 --> 1:04:19.720
<v Speaker 1>to go and see. To everybody who's watching, you go

1:04:19.800 --> 1:04:22.120
<v Speaker 1>see it just because we said, so that's what you do.

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<v Speaker 1>Because that's that's it. That's it. And to our brother Aran,

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<v Speaker 1>guests and as a producer on this project, thanks for

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<v Speaker 1>including that. Don't do that, don't do that. We love.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much for having us. Thank you for

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<v Speaker 1>this safe space. Thank you for the conversation. This has

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<v Speaker 1>been amazing, awesome. Thank you all so much for joining

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<v Speaker 1>Street Politicians, amazing guests man, new friends of the family,

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<v Speaker 1>new friends of the family. You crazy. I didn't bring

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<v Speaker 1>it up during an interview because I didn't want to.

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<v Speaker 1>But Noel used to live in my building in the

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<v Speaker 1>bro Really, what you mean you didn't want to? I

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<v Speaker 1>mean I was, but I mean, you know, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to put them on, so I didn't want it

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<v Speaker 1>to be too much because well, I guess now if

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<v Speaker 1>you would have said that, uh, I'm gonna call her

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<v Speaker 1>Giselle now that Woachima lived in your building, I can

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<v Speaker 1>understand you being like, I don't want to know. It

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't even that we got caught up in the interview

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<v Speaker 1>and we was asking such questions about the movie that

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't bring up that, but you used to live

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<v Speaker 1>in my field, dope, do you know? And Wachima's energy

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<v Speaker 1>like she's amazing. She's gonna be like, you know, she's

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<v Speaker 1>got um the potential of you know, the Angela Bassetts

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<v Speaker 1>of the world. Like she's gonna she has just has

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<v Speaker 1>to keep going, keep going. She's gonna be I like her.

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<v Speaker 1>I love both of them. I love the movie or

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<v Speaker 1>we'll go see it. So that brings me to my

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<v Speaker 1>I don't get it. And it goes back to what

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<v Speaker 1>we already spoke about. We spoke about Tyree Nichols, and

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<v Speaker 1>there was somebody else who spoke about Tyree Nichols this week,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think it was probably the dumbest comment that

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<v Speaker 1>I probably heard about anything, and it was Jason Whitlow

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<v Speaker 1>and his comments that the reason this happened to Tyree

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<v Speaker 1>Nichols and the reason why these officers did this to

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<v Speaker 1>him was based on single parent homes, black women raising

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<v Speaker 1>their sons being sing well. I think he also said

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<v Speaker 1>something about which I'm assuming I never looked into it,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm assuming what he's also saying is that the

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<v Speaker 1>woman the chief of police, Chief David that Oh no, no no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>that's yes. He's saying that she and she is pretty

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<v Speaker 1>much the mother of the police department, so she can't

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<v Speaker 1>raise like he said, so many multidimensional trash ship that

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<v Speaker 1>it was. It was one of the most thoughtless he

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<v Speaker 1>thought about it. No, you couldn't have thought of when

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<v Speaker 1>you couldn't think that it makes sense during the time

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<v Speaker 1>that a mother had lost her child right to have

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<v Speaker 1>a make a statement like that. He thought a black

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<v Speaker 1>woman lost her child at the hands of the police,

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<v Speaker 1>and you thought blaming a black black woman for what

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<v Speaker 1>happened to this black man made sense. But you couldn't.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no there's no way that you I just don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't get how you thought that makes sense. I can't.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't see the logic that a man is said. Yeah, man,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, if it wasn't for single mother families, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>this black man is silla be lives. You know, if

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't the woman who was running the police department,

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<v Speaker 1>if she wasn't a single woman, then it would be

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<v Speaker 1>he'd still be a lot. I don't understand. And the

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<v Speaker 1>woman who lost her child was a black woman, and

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<v Speaker 1>you thought that made sense to say? What what I'm

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<v Speaker 1>I guess. I just I feel like he accomplished exactly

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<v Speaker 1>what he wanted. What he got. He captured the attention,

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<v Speaker 1>the social media following the outrage and uh conversations that

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<v Speaker 1>you know, he's a hashtag as far as he's concerned,

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<v Speaker 1>because people are out here like, I can't believe that

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<v Speaker 1>he said it, and that makes them talk about him.

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<v Speaker 1>People like that trolls. They don't care how they get attention.

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<v Speaker 1>They just want attention. And he did think about it.

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<v Speaker 1>He sat and and crafted a very intentional he craft.

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<v Speaker 1>He sat and crafted a very intentional statement that is

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<v Speaker 1>to further the mission of the Fox News brand and

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<v Speaker 1>what it is that they represent. That's where he said it.

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<v Speaker 1>So he's on a plant. He's on a network that

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<v Speaker 1>provides a platform to racist to people who want to

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<v Speaker 1>be white supremacist, to white supremacist theory, to people who

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<v Speaker 1>wish that they can, um, you know, create as far

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<v Speaker 1>as I'm CanCERN um just you know, to create a

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<v Speaker 1>very prominent oppressed society. Like these are people who their

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<v Speaker 1>everyday thought process is how to dehumanize the entire black

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<v Speaker 1>race as much as possible, even using some of our own,

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<v Speaker 1>so that they can create their new world order. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>this is very intentional. And when you say you don't

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<v Speaker 1>believe it makes sense with it, it doesn't make sense.

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<v Speaker 1>And I understand what you're saying. It's just like shi

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<v Speaker 1>it happens that we see, but it doesn't make sense.

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<v Speaker 1>We we know that it happens, but it still doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>go along with regular logics. So what he does is

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<v Speaker 1>further white supremacy, just like these he's he's contribute to

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<v Speaker 1>the same exact you know, the same exact narrative, the

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<v Speaker 1>same exact objective that the people in the system that

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<v Speaker 1>created these officers is and he doesn't even realize and

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<v Speaker 1>he rather and it probably does realize that well, sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>you know what it is. I really don't think they realize.

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<v Speaker 1>I think a lot of people, especially black people, who

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<v Speaker 1>feed into white supremacy, have been simpen te for so

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<v Speaker 1>long that they don't even realize. They think that they're saying,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, black people need this man. You don't need

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<v Speaker 1>no single parent. That's what it is. And those things

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<v Speaker 1>and the black woman is the problem, and all of

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<v Speaker 1>these issues that feeds white supremacy to continue. It's narrative,

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<v Speaker 1>and they've brought into it because they've been accepted into

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<v Speaker 1>these spaces. A lot of them. There's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>these black faced individuals that I see that walk into

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<v Speaker 1>these white spaces and they utilize this verbiage in this

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<v Speaker 1>dialogue and these narratives, and they be they're celebrated. The

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<v Speaker 1>white people say, that's what we're trying to tell you.

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<v Speaker 1>But but they think they are because them. And then

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<v Speaker 1>just like the black men, they realized how quick they

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<v Speaker 1>lost their jobs, how quick they got charged. And then

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<v Speaker 1>now you know, we've just seen that the other officer,

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<v Speaker 1>but it didn't happen to us, the white But this

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<v Speaker 1>is what I'm saying. So the reality is when brothers

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<v Speaker 1>like that, the man with the black face, and they

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<v Speaker 1>talked like that, and they feed this false narrative. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's people who committed crimes who come from to family,

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<v Speaker 1>who come from they had a father, had they lived

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<v Speaker 1>with the grandmother, the father, the mother, and they still

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<v Speaker 1>committed crimes. They committed even more so to continue to

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<v Speaker 1>create this narrative. You know a lot of these people

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<v Speaker 1>are successful. You look at you know a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people committed They went to college, they did all the

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<v Speaker 1>things that you said you're supposed to do, so you know,

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<v Speaker 1>at some point they made decisions that they wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>be on the side of the oppressor. You know, they

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<v Speaker 1>figured they wanted this power that comes with it they got.

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<v Speaker 1>They brought into a system, you know, And that's what

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<v Speaker 1>we say about the police system. The system is systemically racisms.

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<v Speaker 1>The system is systemically racist. It makes you believe that

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<v Speaker 1>you can harm black people and get away with it.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, they tell you how to do it. That

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<v Speaker 1>is justified, justified. If you listen to them say, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>you resisting arrest, you're going from U. They know there's

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<v Speaker 1>a playbook. You know, there's a playbook. And if we

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<v Speaker 1>had and I say this all the time, we had

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<v Speaker 1>not seen this video, they would have got away with

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<v Speaker 1>the playbooks. Just what we gotta do is say I

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<v Speaker 1>felt for my life. He went from my weapon. And

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<v Speaker 1>if we if they don't, if we didn't have this

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<v Speaker 1>video tape that show clearly every hit, every kick, every stump,

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<v Speaker 1>every the man being incapacitating and be if we had

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<v Speaker 1>not seen that, if we had not seen all these things,

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<v Speaker 1>we would still be sitting and said justice for this person.

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<v Speaker 1>We might not say. Peopleuld be like, yo, why we

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<v Speaker 1>why we don't know what he did? We need to

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<v Speaker 1>see what happened before and be black people, what y'all see?

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<v Speaker 1>That's what y'all doing, man, see what happened before. People

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<v Speaker 1>just need to comply. You know, you can't just not

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<v Speaker 1>do with the police. Tell you need to get on

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<v Speaker 1>your knees. You need to do all this ship man.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, I just want to say to Jason Wolock,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't say that. I just can't say that. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just not even sure why people are even talking about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Like to me, I feel like it's a waste of mind.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know what, I just don't have room. There

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<v Speaker 1>are people out here that they make space to ensure that,

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<v Speaker 1>like there's a counter narrative, and I respect that. So

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<v Speaker 1>they need to do that and we we support it,

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<v Speaker 1>and but I just don't have it to know. I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 1>people who counter who are countering what he said. You

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<v Speaker 1>got d l hugely out there. You've got Man the

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<v Speaker 1>Seals out there. Of course, you have teslaent Figure. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>You've got people that are pushing back against what he said.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I'm saying they make the space, and though

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<v Speaker 1>they have crazy, busy lives and all of that, but

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<v Speaker 1>they make the space from a media perspective to ensure

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<v Speaker 1>that there is a counter narrative. And I support them

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<v Speaker 1>doing that and where I can lend my thoughts and

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<v Speaker 1>ideas so that they can help to develop you know,

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<v Speaker 1>their full um statement and their full opinion or you know, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>their full opinion about these issues. I want to do that. However,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have the space in my life to let

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<v Speaker 1>Jason Whitlock like come into my dreams. I can't deal

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<v Speaker 1>with it. I don't because you know me, I take

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<v Speaker 1>the ship to my dream it. It'll be all night.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be up right and stuff, texting everybody. You know

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<v Speaker 1>how I start. When I get into it. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to talk to everybody that I'm close to to be like,

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<v Speaker 1>did you hear is? Why do you say? I can't

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<v Speaker 1>do it? So I just tell Jason Whitlock peace that

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<v Speaker 1>other words. It's other words, but we're not the words. No,

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<v Speaker 1>you haven't. I'm trying. You know you are right. Go

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<v Speaker 1>to the Franks stand. They're selling Franks by a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of Francs. So as Jason Woodlock heads to the Franks Stan,

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna end this week's episode. Shout out to Noel Callaway.

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<v Speaker 1>Shout out to Kima Hollis, the writer and produced the

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<v Speaker 1>Slash Management Slash Travel Agents slash everything for this great

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<v Speaker 1>film and of course the star and she is definitely

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<v Speaker 1>a star that brings us to the end of another episode.

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<v Speaker 1>Back in the studio today. Yeah, that's right. For the

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<v Speaker 1>Aurora Cast, we had to sit down personally and do

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<v Speaker 1>that interview. So number one podcast in the world. Politicians,

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<v Speaker 1>you know how we do it, number one in a

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<v Speaker 1>Mallory's not gonna always be wrong, but we will both

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