Speaker 1: What's the family. It's your girl to make a d.
Speaker 1: Mallard and it's your boy my son in general. And
Speaker 1: we are your hosts of street politicians, the place with
Speaker 1: the streets and politics meet. Can we use like other
Speaker 1: people's music, like back Together? Probably not, They're probably gonna
Speaker 1: try to us. And you know, na, I think you
Speaker 1: gotta say, I don't right to this music. That's the jam.
Speaker 1: I like that. I like that. Oh yeah, okay, you
Speaker 1: know and uh back together again, Yeah, that's the jam.
Speaker 1: They don't know anyway. What is this that you have
Speaker 1: on today? It's nice the black people? Black people, let
Speaker 1: me take one of the shoes. Oh my god, are
Speaker 1: you serious? And it's okay, don't put the bottom on
Speaker 1: the table, just whole and then I'm gonna give you
Speaker 1: some hands and genesee to give you the thing where
Speaker 1: she tried to kill me today. She made me wipe
Speaker 1: my hands with the hospital. The hospital, and we borrowed
Speaker 1: the whites from the hospital. But we did because they
Speaker 1: told us it was a pandemic. So they told us
Speaker 1: it was to borrow means still we did not when
Speaker 1: they said we borrowed, and they said in that manner,
Speaker 1: at what happened was because it was the pandemic we had.
Speaker 1: They told us to take those whites and to really
Speaker 1: clean the house down. It was the beginning of the pandemic,
Speaker 1: and you couldn't get and you couldn't get whites. Well,
Speaker 1: I just I don't want to say. I don't want
Speaker 1: to say I took or stole because I didn't. They
Speaker 1: gave it to us. Well, okay, so is the wrong word.
Speaker 1: But they gave us because you couldn't get whites and
Speaker 1: stuff exactly. And so they said on these particular whites,
Speaker 1: they said, do not use with your hands. And I'm
Speaker 1: sitting over here, I let this lady give me a wipe.
Speaker 1: I didn't look at where it came from or what
Speaker 1: the container looked like, right, because it's purple and white
Speaker 1: and its really industrial stuff. You know that our studio
Speaker 1: is what two floors up from a major plastic surgery
Speaker 1: office with a medical office, right, So there's medical stuff
Speaker 1: in that building. So they wipe. Didn't want to stay
Speaker 1: COVID free, and so they're doing the extra extra, not
Speaker 1: the regular lights on. So I go and I use it,
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, I start going I'm like
Speaker 1: dying and She looks at me and goes, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe you're not supposed to be that. I was. No,
Speaker 1: I was okay you Why don't we put you one over?
Speaker 1: I was standing right. No, you wasn't know I touched it.
Speaker 1: It probably went through my finger. Yeah. And speaking of
Speaker 1: nasty net like super duper net, I know, I'm serious.
Speaker 1: I don't feel this is my personal conviction. I personally
Speaker 1: do not feel that any group of people should be
Speaker 1: in a society where you cannot walk up and down
Speaker 1: the streets or be at a restaurant, or or be
Speaker 1: or just just have freedom of eating or living in
Speaker 1: your apartment without rats, physical rats running around rampant. That
Speaker 1: is not okay with me. And and and I'm not
Speaker 1: trying to be like Boujie too nobody. No, but I
Speaker 1: don't care. I don't care. If you are houseless, you
Speaker 1: should not have an influx of rats running around you.
Speaker 1: Our friend Emil text me last night and said that
Speaker 1: he was walking in the middle of the street in
Speaker 1: Harlem to get home because there was like four or
Speaker 1: five rats all around, like on the side walls. This
Speaker 1: is not It's like, it's like imprisonment. It's not cool. No,
Speaker 1: it is the red thing is out of control. I've
Speaker 1: seen something on Instagram when they had something they looked
Speaker 1: like a beaver and they said it was a rat.
Speaker 1: It looked like a beaver. There's no way this rat.
Speaker 1: The rat was like racon No it was you're talking
Speaker 1: about me being about the white bro that rat. It
Speaker 1: did not look like it looked different, but it was
Speaker 1: still the size of these big as New York. This
Speaker 1: rat was about this big. Yes it was. They had
Speaker 1: the trap they had, Man, you're bugging. You didn't see it.
Speaker 1: It wasn't that big. But it's a big rat. But
Speaker 1: it still wasn't that big. I'm just saying you shut listen.
Speaker 1: We need you to show it. Why would they want
Speaker 1: to say that because you're sending it. Stopped sending me that,
Speaker 1: because no, I'm not. I'm into seeing it. I'm into
Speaker 1: trying to stop it. I'm literally the mayor of New
Speaker 1: York City and tell him that I want to be
Speaker 1: want the task for us. I said this before, but
Speaker 1: I need to do it for real. I want to
Speaker 1: be on the task for us to deal with rats.
Speaker 1: It is not fair. And just now somebody else sent
Speaker 1: me a video where the rat is running through the
Speaker 1: fried chicken spot. Now in in there in the food,
Speaker 1: eating the chicken. Now here's a problem with that, right,
Speaker 1: here's the issue. And I've been saying this for a while.
Speaker 1: First of all, you know, when I go out somewhere,
Speaker 1: aren't gonna lie if I'm coming back from a long drive,
Speaker 1: or if I go out and I'm clubbing or whatever,
Speaker 1: I go by the chicken joint and get me a
Speaker 1: piece of chicken. I mean, that's just a normal thing.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you're in the middle of your day, you're hustling,
Speaker 1: and you need something to eat, and you just don't
Speaker 1: have an opportunity to go. You know, I don't eat
Speaker 1: fried chicken like that anymore. But the fried chicken joint
Speaker 1: is a part of the culture of like you in
Speaker 1: New York, you live in the hood, you understand that's
Speaker 1: what it is. And you're telling me I've never ever
Speaker 1: and I'm not saying it wasn't there before. But the
Speaker 1: point is now, all of a sudden, the rats is
Speaker 1: they are just bold in the day, out in anywhere.
Speaker 1: And no, there's more rats. I mean, that's that's no. No,
Speaker 1: it has been verified the people that study rats and
Speaker 1: underground and stuff, because during the pandemic. When they moved
Speaker 1: the restaurants outside and the garbage was not being properly contained,
Speaker 1: then they had This is what took place. Like I
Speaker 1: hope that you guys put in this footage. I'll send
Speaker 1: you a picture of the garbage built up near a
Speaker 1: woman's house that I know. I went by to visit
Speaker 1: her and her the garbage is disgusting. It's bags of garbage.
Speaker 1: Everywhere in her house is extremely clean, but there's no
Speaker 1: way that it's just a matter of time. Put it
Speaker 1: that way. Even that lady that we saw on Lisa
Speaker 1: Ever show that had the rats with the you said,
Speaker 1: beaver in the house, it doesn't look dirty, but the
Speaker 1: rat is running through her child's clothes. No limits where
Speaker 1: these rats can go. They've reached it all time high.
Speaker 1: I'm not I don't know if it's the numbers of
Speaker 1: different differing. What I'm saying is the boldness they come out.
Speaker 1: They stand up on the high legs. They're giving you
Speaker 1: five you know, for real, like they're standing on it
Speaker 1: because I shopping now, if you want to see, if
Speaker 1: y'all want to hear the call that I'm at the hospital,
Speaker 1: because that's what it seems like it seems like people
Speaker 1: are trying to make us accept rats as and I
Speaker 1: don't even know what people I'm talking I mean many dimensions.
Speaker 1: You don't even say how real that is. It's not
Speaker 1: even just in the physical but the rats want to
Speaker 1: be accepted society, and these physical rats are really speaking
Speaker 1: for the rest of the rats. Listen, if you want
Speaker 1: to ship, do you mind as well let us come outside.
Speaker 1: You're a fool. Yeah, they get chill on the blocks
Speaker 1: with y'all outside everywhere. Yeah, but we're not going to
Speaker 1: accept this. I'm not. I'm telling you I'm going full fledged.
Speaker 1: I might take I if I listen, I may take
Speaker 1: a leave of asses to go work for the Mayor's
Speaker 1: office in the department where they deal with rats. I'm
Speaker 1: dead serious about this. This is not something I'm playing about. Now.
Speaker 1: Here's my only, my lad final point, not my only.
Speaker 1: This is my final point for today on this issue.
Speaker 1: Ob eats, door dash and all of that. You don't know, right,
Speaker 1: Like you don't know if we're seeing the rat eating
Speaker 1: the chicken in the window. If you know anything about
Speaker 1: the chicken spot in New York, you see the chicken,
Speaker 1: it's right there. How the hell does the rat even
Speaker 1: get up the thing and in the thing and in
Speaker 1: the things supposed to be closed the glass where the
Speaker 1: chicken is behind the glass. Sometimes I don't know if
Speaker 1: some of these na bron because some of that don't
Speaker 1: even make how they get inside of the comment. Well,
Speaker 1: because you know, first of all, we which you and
Speaker 1: I already know if you eat at the chicken spot,
Speaker 1: you already eating nasty anyway, like dirty chickens. We're going
Speaker 1: to yeah, we we we acknowledge that. Okay, BB and
Speaker 1: numbers over there, they've got a little dirty chickens. You know,
Speaker 1: it's not filthy. That's not nice. Yeah, but it's not nice.
Speaker 1: It's actually like derogatory to put it in the context
Speaker 1: of dirty chicken it in the hobbyby. But it is
Speaker 1: true most of them, most of the middle Easter, yea,
Speaker 1: they have chickens and they're not that clean. You're filthy.
Speaker 1: You know, they got their little bucket that you see
Speaker 1: them doing a little sweet But you know, it's just
Speaker 1: not those types of spots, even restaurants, even the local
Speaker 1: whatever whatever kind of store, when it's local and it's
Speaker 1: the spot, they don't be that clean. That's don't they
Speaker 1: don't have the spot list because I don't eat sandwiches
Speaker 1: from the regular bodega like and you wait, wait, listen.
Speaker 1: You know in my hood they got this fish with
Speaker 1: the salad. This that's one of my favorite mans. I
Speaker 1: go to the hood to get my seafood mill. This
Speaker 1: is one of the best meal grill shrimp. They do.
Speaker 1: They do everything. Then, so shout out to the the
Speaker 1: Dominicans on one seventy person. Man, they got the best
Speaker 1: food the bottom. Don't one's saying that it's not good
Speaker 1: because the local Chinese joint is good, the local the
Speaker 1: local bodega is good, the local pizza shop, the local
Speaker 1: chicken joint. I'm not taking away anything from them. And
Speaker 1: by the way, even if I did, people are not
Speaker 1: gonna stop and I eat it, tear it up. What
Speaker 1: I am saying is that we all know that we're
Speaker 1: when we go to these places, we are going to
Speaker 1: grade down in terms of what we're gonna get from
Speaker 1: a cleanly perspective. But now, if you got the rats
Speaker 1: running around in the food, it concerns me because when
Speaker 1: you and and by the way, just so we make
Speaker 1: it clear, the local spots might be have issues, but
Speaker 1: there's some major restaurants, these fancy is all around um
Speaker 1: and being stored in the basement. They say, that's the
Speaker 1: worst place. That's not the most place where I see rats.
Speaker 1: So when you tell me when you go downtown with
Speaker 1: all of the top made, when we walk outside of
Speaker 1: those restaurants, it won't be thirty and forty rats running
Speaker 1: down all the time? Are you kidding me that I
Speaker 1: know exactly where you're talking about and that particular area,
Speaker 1: I just can't. I mean, again, it would be, it
Speaker 1: would be very it would be it would be perceived
Speaker 1: in a very discriminatory way if we talked about who
Speaker 1: is located in that dish. But I'm just trying to
Speaker 1: tell you it's a bunch of rats, all those those
Speaker 1: spots below thirty four, strewn on those blocks Fifth Avenue
Speaker 1: and all that. When you come out of those restaurants,
Speaker 1: it is rats. Yeah, it is. Okay. I'm not saying,
Speaker 1: oh no, no, you're not. I'm not sitting here making
Speaker 1: the case that there's not as many rats downtown. That's
Speaker 1: not what I'm saying. I'm saying that even and I'm
Speaker 1: not just talking about down there. I'm saying that even
Speaker 1: at Sylvia's right in Harlem because of the way they
Speaker 1: keep the restaurant there. I've actually I've never and I
Speaker 1: know the rats all around there, but I have never
Speaker 1: walked out and had a rat running outside of Sylvia's
Speaker 1: because they keep it super clean. They got the garbage
Speaker 1: a certain type of way. So we're not talking about
Speaker 1: black restauranes, so people won't be like, oh, you think
Speaker 1: white establishments. I'm saying that. I'm saying that there are
Speaker 1: certain if they don't keep their their garbage together and
Speaker 1: and more over, which we should really be saying a
Speaker 1: lot of these places just because of the mere fact
Speaker 1: that they're in the hood, they don't try to take
Speaker 1: care of their restaurant and the grounds and the outside.
Speaker 1: They pour grease on the ground, which is a problem
Speaker 1: because the grease is clearly it has the seasoning and
Speaker 1: the smell of whatever in it. It's attracting things. It's nasty.
Speaker 1: We already have dealt with roaches and seemed like roaches
Speaker 1: the roaches go away because I don't see roach. I
Speaker 1: see water bugs, but I don't see roaches. But what
Speaker 1: I'm all I'm saying to you is be aware because
Speaker 1: if you are buying food from Uber eats and door
Speaker 1: dash and those types of places. You don't know what
Speaker 1: you're getting. That's all I'm saying. Yeah, but I know,
Speaker 1: I'm just telling you you never meant that. Well, now
Speaker 1: it's starting to see all the things you don't know
Speaker 1: the card most of these people you don't even knowing.
Speaker 1: It's nasty. I am cooking more because no, because how
Speaker 1: about no? I bet you know. So listen, we don't
Speaker 1: have the time today to get deeply into Tyree Nichols man.
Speaker 1: I mean bro like yo, like I know people who
Speaker 1: are experiencing serious trauma, like at work and everything. My
Speaker 1: friend told me the other day, I actually Jamie Um.
Speaker 1: She told me that they held they held like a
Speaker 1: a grief session during work because people are so like
Speaker 1: emotionally drained that you gotta go to work after you
Speaker 1: watch the lynching, like people cannot. It is this is
Speaker 1: too much, it's too much. But what I I did
Speaker 1: want to focus on one particular part, and I feel
Speaker 1: so sorry for that man's family and just his daughter.
Speaker 1: Like people, I mean, these people have kids and I
Speaker 1: and I have to be honest with you, you know,
Speaker 1: I feel sorry for the families of five people that
Speaker 1: made the most not more than five. What we're up
Speaker 1: to like seven eight people at this point. Matter of fact,
Speaker 1: it's more than that because you got the what we
Speaker 1: said the MS work is, then you have the all
Speaker 1: the officers. So all of these black people that were involved.
Speaker 1: I am going to say today that I want to believe,
Speaker 1: and this is my thought that I have been struggling
Speaker 1: with and trying to process. I want to believe that
Speaker 1: those black people, I think the numbers about seven, that
Speaker 1: none of them had a mama that taught them that
Speaker 1: ship or that would agree with what they did. I
Speaker 1: want to believe that they black mama, black daddy, doesn't
Speaker 1: matter where dad maybe not in the house, maybe away whatever,
Speaker 1: wherever he may be. I still want to believe that
Speaker 1: even a mama, daddy whoever, because we you know nowadays
Speaker 1: it could be mom, dad whoever in prison, I want
Speaker 1: to believe that that parent who might be locked up,
Speaker 1: even in that situation, is calling their child saying what
Speaker 1: the hell was that? Why would you be involved? What
Speaker 1: are you doing? I just need to believe that that
Speaker 1: they were not raised, especially down in Memphis, by parents
Speaker 1: and a family that supports that type of behavior. Their
Speaker 1: entire family structure has been completely ripped apart because of
Speaker 1: AID and because of a need to uphold white supremacy
Speaker 1: and a need to feel validated by abusing other people,
Speaker 1: maybe because they feel that there they don't have value.
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is, but the self hatred
Speaker 1: and what that has now caused, it's it kills me.
Speaker 1: It was it was a gang assault. It was it
Speaker 1: was a gang assault. And to not not identify the
Speaker 1: police as a gag, right, It's just it's not being honest.
Speaker 1: And we and we could say there are good cops,
Speaker 1: we can say all these things, but there's a structure
Speaker 1: within the police system that makes you believe that it
Speaker 1: feeds into the narrative that black people are dangerous, right, So,
Speaker 1: and even when you tell other black people that, right,
Speaker 1: and they feel like they're protected by this system that
Speaker 1: has always protected them, that have we not seen this
Speaker 1: on camera? Like the only reason that we we've got
Speaker 1: justice in any situation is we had pure video. And
Speaker 1: even times when we've had video, we didn't get justice.
Speaker 1: So this is a system that makes even black people
Speaker 1: who go into the system believe that you can get
Speaker 1: away with harming a black person. All you have to
Speaker 1: do is say that you feel like your life is
Speaker 1: a gey. All you have to do is say that
Speaker 1: they resisted the rest because these are the narratives that
Speaker 1: have been painted about us, that we are hard, we
Speaker 1: are dangerous, that your life is always in jeopardy when
Speaker 1: you interact. You can be a kid it that's ten
Speaker 1: years old, or you can be a man that's forty.
Speaker 1: You can be a woman who's who who actually composed
Speaker 1: no threat, and they can use the same story over
Speaker 1: and over to to have no accountability for taking your life.
Speaker 1: So this is what the system and what the structures,
Speaker 1: and these men fell into that you know, they felt
Speaker 1: that whatever reason, they pulled that man over and them
Speaker 1: chasing him, and they because we don't know, we don't know.
Speaker 1: There's so many people that want to spread and until
Speaker 1: family members and to its, until people that I know
Speaker 1: and respect can say this, this has been substantiated, we
Speaker 1: are sure these things prior relationship. Because I'm just so tired.
Speaker 1: I've watched listen to me, I've been paying attention to
Speaker 1: social media, and I've watched social media create so many
Speaker 1: narratives or if one person tweeted, well what if this happened?
Speaker 1: And then what happens is people saw spreading memes and
Speaker 1: people saw spreading means and they create this whole thing,
Speaker 1: and I mean it becomes real because remember that woman
Speaker 1: that uh was in the video attack and Champwhilla Robinson,
Speaker 1: there was about a good three weeks of her being
Speaker 1: trans like they was just she's a trans woman. She
Speaker 1: you know, and nobody has to now now, you know,
Speaker 1: not to say that she's not. She could be. I
Speaker 1: don't know, but I do not think so. And it's
Speaker 1: highly unlikely. And it is also based upon um Tyree
Speaker 1: Nichols family. Highly unlikely that you don't as a family members,
Speaker 1: Mom and daddy don't always know what you was doing,
Speaker 1: you know, when you was doing what she was doing.
Speaker 1: They always know. But they're saying it's not true, that
Speaker 1: this story is not true, and they don't have to
Speaker 1: be true because the police beat up on people all
Speaker 1: the time time, especially black people. So you know, stop
Speaker 1: stop stop looking for something to justify and substantial people people.
Speaker 1: That's what we always do. Well, let me see the
Speaker 1: rest of the film. You can see and puts him
Speaker 1: in the face. He ain't got his hands are He's like, please, please, well,
Speaker 1: let me see what caused them to do it. There's
Speaker 1: nothing that could cause you to just be punching and
Speaker 1: kicking or something. I don't need to see nothing else.
Speaker 1: If a man is sitting there stomping a woman out
Speaker 1: and she well, I want to know what she did
Speaker 1: for me, I don't even know all of that. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, that's not I don't understand the
Speaker 1: mindset that comes with the need to know what has
Speaker 1: happened before someone has been violated, like the world they
Speaker 1: or they citizen, Well, you know she said this or
Speaker 1: he said that. So no, there's no justification when I
Speaker 1: look at those things. I know that the handbook policing
Speaker 1: that ain't in the handbook even if he did do
Speaker 1: whatever whatever. Once you're no longer a threat, once you
Speaker 1: are no longer a threat, once you are physically not
Speaker 1: a threat and you can't harm someone, and you can
Speaker 1: see that, there's no justification for you continue to abuse it.
Speaker 1: But can I ask you a question. Our police officers
Speaker 1: allowed to just punch people? Well, I'm serious, Like, is
Speaker 1: that a part of the tactic punching? Actually, I'm I'm
Speaker 1: under the impression that if you that police officers, if
Speaker 1: they feel threatened. They don't punch their taste or shoot.
Speaker 1: It's legal lucive. Maybe they maybe they maybe those units
Speaker 1: are like the scorpions. And my thing is those things violate.
Speaker 1: You're right when you punch me in my face if
Speaker 1: I'm not harming you, and there's no need for you
Speaker 1: to punch me. There's no need for you to punch
Speaker 1: me in my face. So if I hit you as
Speaker 1: an officer, is it just do whatever you gotta do.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying, I'm asking you, is that sometimes you're
Speaker 1: reflexing so they could justify and say, well, this person
Speaker 1: hit me, so that was a natural reflex. So you're
Speaker 1: not supposed to have a reflex, And that's what they're
Speaker 1: saying you. You can't have a reflex. They can grab you,
Speaker 1: push your your your face to the ground, be breaking
Speaker 1: your arm and you you pull up and the wait
Speaker 1: way you're hurting me. You're resisting the rest, so now
Speaker 1: they can impose more harm on you. It's not even
Speaker 1: these things don't even make comments sense. There's no way
Speaker 1: that you gonna grab me and me pulling my motherfucking
Speaker 1: shoulder out the socket and not expect me to try
Speaker 1: to straighten my shoulder because you don't hurt me and
Speaker 1: turn around and get off the floor because you got
Speaker 1: my my face in the ground and applies. He said,
Speaker 1: it hurts. That's why it's a simple. And why won't
Speaker 1: you just stay still? Because I can't because it hurts. Hurts,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I don't. I don't
Speaker 1: know what these policies and procedures are. The policies and
Speaker 1: procedures are not working. That's what I know. No man
Speaker 1: of any level account they want to protect his life.
Speaker 1: That's over before. So y'all donna have to find something else.
Speaker 1: I got the stuff back on my hand. That's the
Speaker 1: white I bet you're gonna leave that white below. Oh
Speaker 1: I know that thing had me choke and it went
Speaker 1: through my hand to my nose. Listen, man, listen, r
Speaker 1: I p to tree and all the tyre's yes. Well,
Speaker 1: I don't know how you go to the guests from
Speaker 1: well we go, we go from laughing the crime, that's right. Listen.
Speaker 1: People are mad at me now because I posted a
Speaker 1: video the other day of this guy in his argument
Speaker 1: with God, and he is cussing guard out like he's
Speaker 1: so tired and so mad and so seeing everything. Of course,
Speaker 1: the cuss words is a lot. Of course, you never
Speaker 1: called God out of his or her name. I get it.
Speaker 1: But he's not talking to God. He's talking to us,
Speaker 1: and he is making a joke about the frustration that
Speaker 1: people are feeling. And there's thousands of people who are like,
Speaker 1: this is the best thing I've ever seen in my life,
Speaker 1: because I feel like this sometimes. And then there's some
Speaker 1: folks who teld me that they can't believe that I
Speaker 1: would ever posted it. They can't believe it, They can't
Speaker 1: believe that. You know what I said, I ain't that perfect.
Speaker 1: But one thing I do know is that I've seen
Speaker 1: people murderous, kill people, hurt, people, do all types of things.
Speaker 1: And guess what the same book that or the same
Speaker 1: religious or the spiritual beliefs that you have that says
Speaker 1: don't curse God. It's the same spiritual belief that should
Speaker 1: tell you that number one, number one, he still loves
Speaker 1: you even if you cuss, even if you murder somebody,
Speaker 1: even if whatever you do. That's book, that spiritual nous
Speaker 1: that you have says judge not judge not someone else
Speaker 1: because it could be your situation. So guess what I'm
Speaker 1: not that perfect. And I also do not reduce my
Speaker 1: God to a point that he can't take a good joke.
Speaker 1: I just don't. It was funny, it was. It was hilarious.
Speaker 1: Oh man, it was hilarious. Oh they was so theyre
Speaker 1: so mad, they'd be all right, they of language, and
Speaker 1: he wasn't talking to God. And one of my friends
Speaker 1: who really is like a super spirit spiritual person, she's
Speaker 1: a makeup artist, um cold marrow from um from from
Speaker 1: l A. She said, well, you know. She went on
Speaker 1: to talk about the spiritual journey and how God doesn't
Speaker 1: put more on you than you can't then you can handle,
Speaker 1: and she said it don't be cussing at my God.
Speaker 1: But at the end she said, but that was funny though,
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, you see, I'm saying, let's let's not
Speaker 1: do the extra take a laugh some time. Let's bring
Speaker 1: our guests on, because I laughed about bring them all.
Speaker 1: Last week we went to see our first of all,
Speaker 1: our good friend um A Ran Gatson called and said
Speaker 1: we had to be. He sent me a text message
Speaker 1: and told me I had no choice but to get
Speaker 1: myself my two feet um to a movie theater to
Speaker 1: see the premiere of a film. We're being joined today
Speaker 1: by two of the incredible people that helped to make
Speaker 1: this film happen. Uh. It's called Aurora. You know when
Speaker 1: I first saw that, I was like, Okay, what is
Speaker 1: this that A has us? You know what we're going
Speaker 1: to see today? And it was all of that and
Speaker 1: then some And I want to introduce our guest, Um
Speaker 1: Noel Callaway, the writer and director for this project, and
Speaker 1: also Joachima hollis Um who is the star actress, the
Speaker 1: lead actress. I would like to I'm gonna say, because
Speaker 1: you have black woman, so I'm gonna say your lead actress,
Speaker 1: no matter who else might have been the lead, but
Speaker 1: you were, but you you are, you are, and it
Speaker 1: it's an all black film. It's black Andy black, black black.
Speaker 1: And you know, let me just tell you in the
Speaker 1: say to all of you who are who are looking,
Speaker 1: and hopefully you see the beauty the blackness here. But
Speaker 1: after the film was over, when you all did your
Speaker 1: talk back and you all were sitting there, I don't
Speaker 1: know if it was the light or what, but it
Speaker 1: was just beauty from you all the way to the end,
Speaker 1: where every single person, the young people, the skin just
Speaker 1: the popping nous of that black and brown beauty and
Speaker 1: culture and the film, which you guys are gonna talk about.
Speaker 1: It was so good from beginning to end. You know, now,
Speaker 1: I don't like some people because I'm like walking around
Speaker 1: holding grudges about some of the things that happened and
Speaker 1: the film. Yes, but I was actually sitting next to
Speaker 1: like the worst of them all. Uh you know what's
Speaker 1: her name? She's the Latina sister who merrily could terry
Speaker 1: as the actress who plays Nina. I'm gonna defending a
Speaker 1: little bit of any but not yet, not yet, not yet.
Speaker 1: So tell us about the film, Um, what is it about?
Speaker 1: And then of course we're gonna get into why all
Speaker 1: of you got involved. Yes, So first, thank you guys
Speaker 1: for I'm a super fan of the platform of the
Speaker 1: work you do, so I appreciate the opportunity to be here.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you. Interviews with people will necessarily but
Speaker 1: this is real. Thank you. And yeah, So first I
Speaker 1: talked about the beauty. Um, the beauty was important to me,
Speaker 1: right from the landscape beautiful Puerto Rico, to the different
Speaker 1: shades of brown that I wanted to put on screen,
Speaker 1: you know, different ages of different sizes. I really wanted
Speaker 1: to show the spectrum of our beauty UM in destination
Speaker 1: wedding movie. Right, it's a movie about love, but it's
Speaker 1: a layered love. It's not, to say the least romantic
Speaker 1: love that you see a lot of times on screen.
Speaker 1: And we deliberately started it that way. I wanted everybody
Speaker 1: to be on this high and its this this destination
Speaker 1: wedding with these beautiful people, and then it just smack
Speaker 1: you with the twist, the drama. Um And so yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a love story with the twist. That's what we
Speaker 1: like to call it. It's it's a rom calm. You'll laugh,
Speaker 1: but then you'll find yourself y'alling at the screen and
Speaker 1: trying to figure out, you know, who you hate. So
Speaker 1: we're super proud of it. What does the name Aurora
Speaker 1: actually means? So, as I when I wrote, I usually
Speaker 1: right before I title a film, because the title come
Speaker 1: to you, the title it really come to me. Um,
Speaker 1: I had to dig a little deeper, and Aurora means
Speaker 1: a natural phenomenon, which is like a flash of light
Speaker 1: in the sky, uh, And I used it to symbolize
Speaker 1: what Giselle Joachima's character Giselle did to Kenny, and that
Speaker 1: when you see that person in your has been protected
Speaker 1: because of the past experience. It takes that type of
Speaker 1: strong natural phenomenon that woman to break through that. And
Speaker 1: so you know, her name was not Aurora in the film,
Speaker 1: which I think is a simple way to go right right,
Speaker 1: but after person, I wanted to name it after feeling.
Speaker 1: So that's what being a lead actress. And you know,
Speaker 1: I love the film, So I know about the film.
Speaker 1: We're not gonna give everybody, you know, everything right. What
Speaker 1: made you when you heard when you heard this role,
Speaker 1: what made you saying that this is this is something
Speaker 1: I want to be. Yeah, you know, when I read it,
Speaker 1: I immediately felt that Giselle was a multifaceted woman, and
Speaker 1: I like that she's a woman who's still on a
Speaker 1: journey of trying to figure out what she wants out
Speaker 1: of life, how to get it. And I really love
Speaker 1: that she's allowed to be imperfect, because I think too
Speaker 1: often in life black women feel like we have to
Speaker 1: have it together, we have to be perfect in order
Speaker 1: to get the guy and get the career and juggle
Speaker 1: it all. And Gizell is just trying to figure it out.
Speaker 1: And so I was really drawn to that aspect of her.
Speaker 1: You know, she's she's imperfect, but she's figuring it out
Speaker 1: and she's getting there. Well, She's sure she figured out
Speaker 1: a lot as far as I'm concerned. And I mean,
Speaker 1: you you talked about why you wrote this film, So
Speaker 1: maybe you could tell us a little bit about that today,
Speaker 1: because I felt I found the story to be very
Speaker 1: powerful about your own experience and how we see it
Speaker 1: on screen. Yeah. So I had the the blessing of
Speaker 1: being married on a beach in Aruba, uh too the
Speaker 1: woman of my dreams uh in front of six pi
Speaker 1: something of our friends and family. And coming from a
Speaker 1: kid from hallm Um, we didn't travel a lot when
Speaker 1: I was younger. We didn't have these experiences that now
Speaker 1: my daughter has. But I know that our culture sometimes
Speaker 1: needs those experiences, right, needs that escapism, needs to be
Speaker 1: able to go to a destination wedding, even if it
Speaker 1: doesn't happen in their family, because if I can show
Speaker 1: it on screen, then maybe someone would think, oh maybe
Speaker 1: I can do that. Right, And so having that vibe
Speaker 1: at my wedding with you know, it's friends, family, grandparents, kids,
Speaker 1: everybody just partying, having a good time loving each other,
Speaker 1: and then there's drama and there's craziness, and you know,
Speaker 1: all of that was something I wanted to bottle up
Speaker 1: and put into a film. And you know, My Love
Speaker 1: is kind of boring in that we don't have drama.
Speaker 1: It's not boring, you know, boring to the outside. We
Speaker 1: haven't the top of our lives before. Too boring for
Speaker 1: the audience. Yeah, they don't like that. So I said,
Speaker 1: all right, we can't tell our story per se, but
Speaker 1: I'll start with the base of our story, the love
Speaker 1: in our story. Um, and then I'll let my mind
Speaker 1: take you where it goes. Talk about the casting process,
Speaker 1: um so yeah, Elsa Latern. I have to shout our
Speaker 1: casting director. She was amazing, Melissa Martin, one of our producers,
Speaker 1: who was very integral in the casting process. Um. I
Speaker 1: and I guess we'll talk a little bit about this.
Speaker 1: I don't watch everything because everything is good, intelligent, it isn't,
Speaker 1: you know, it doesn't. I watch a lot of old stuff,
Speaker 1: So when it's not for me to cast, I'll be
Speaker 1: thinking about people from the wire, you know, who we
Speaker 1: see in this film. I would think people from you know,
Speaker 1: shows and movies that I've watched years and years ago
Speaker 1: that are not necessarily current, and there's so many talented
Speaker 1: actors and actresses right now, and so I let them
Speaker 1: take the lead on it. Right. Um, there are actors
Speaker 1: I know, like asking Montique Harper who plays Sophia, Mark
Speaker 1: John Jefferies who put kills will um? You know. So
Speaker 1: there's some actors that I know that I know that
Speaker 1: Jason Hurt who played They see who are super talented
Speaker 1: don't always get looks right. And so I came to
Speaker 1: it in certain roles saying, these people are playing these
Speaker 1: characters because I know them, I know their talent, I
Speaker 1: know they don't kill it. Outside of that, I'm going
Speaker 1: to hand in the casting and you guys put it
Speaker 1: out there. Let's see who submits and who you know
Speaker 1: we've got. We've got some quote bigger names that submitted,
Speaker 1: but when I looked at their tapes, they didn't match
Speaker 1: up to who we casting, right, And so I said,
Speaker 1: you know, let's just make a great movie with beautiful
Speaker 1: talented people and we'll see what the ships want. I'm
Speaker 1: just trying to figure out how do I put my submission,
Speaker 1: So I need to know the process. You don't about
Speaker 1: to put my little tape together. So now you and that,
Speaker 1: you and that in a service. As I watched the film,
Speaker 1: you know, I was just, first of all, I love
Speaker 1: the cast, I love the film and the plot twist.
Speaker 1: I just came on to Knowe and just was like, so,
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to figure out as a director. You're
Speaker 1: sitting and you writing these things, like what was going
Speaker 1: through your mind? Did you say to yourself, I want
Speaker 1: this to be I wanted to be just compelling. I
Speaker 1: was like, what was the idea? What was your mind
Speaker 1: state when you sat down and you just wrote this? Well,
Speaker 1: by the way, just so I could, I knew something
Speaker 1: was happening. I was very clear from like two or
Speaker 1: three minutes in. I'm like, something's up with her with
Speaker 1: what's her name? I'm sorry, Joachimo, what's your account? Giselle?
Speaker 1: I gotta see because I want to call you exactly
Speaker 1: who you are, like I'm ready to be like you no, no,
Speaker 1: but Giselle, I was I felt like something was happening.
Speaker 1: So you did a good job of making sure that
Speaker 1: people are captivated that I know something is coming, versus
Speaker 1: just sitting there like oh okay, okay, okay, you know,
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I saw that look, I saw
Speaker 1: all those eyes and you know, anyway, so sorry, and
Speaker 1: that was them all right. So I'll talk to a
Speaker 1: little bit about the story, um and the way I
Speaker 1: tell story, right, Like I make films, I don't like
Speaker 1: to be called the independent filmmaker, just because it's a
Speaker 1: connotation that goes with that, that people think it's not
Speaker 1: gonna be on the level that my productions are. Um,
Speaker 1: I'm a person who makes films and the family, but
Speaker 1: I'm not, you know, an indie filmmaker, just because there's
Speaker 1: some connotation around that I don't agree with. UM. So
Speaker 1: when I write story, I want to challenge my people.
Speaker 1: I trust our intelligence, right, I trust us to be
Speaker 1: able to follow a plot line because I make movies
Speaker 1: for for black people that other people can enjoy. Like,
Speaker 1: that's what I do. UM, I don't apologize for that.
Speaker 1: That's my audience, that's my backgrounds. Who I am. And
Speaker 1: when I find actress is like Jachima, actors like Tobias
Speaker 1: and I hand them this these words. It's up to
Speaker 1: them to give you, guys that feeling right and I
Speaker 1: can wrecked them, but I also just give them the
Speaker 1: stage to say on this character. You know, we spoke
Speaker 1: about the character, and I give her a lot of credit.
Speaker 1: She asked for the whole script. A lot of actors
Speaker 1: don't do that, right, so they like, give me the size,
Speaker 1: let me read it. Oh, i'll do it. I'm flying
Speaker 1: to Puerto Rico. Are you gonna pay me good? I'll
Speaker 1: do it. She cared about the character, about the scope
Speaker 1: of it, and then we talked about it and we
Speaker 1: built Giselle together until I was comfortable to say, now
Speaker 1: take her and make her what people would love hate
Speaker 1: and everything in between. And so those subtleties that nuanced,
Speaker 1: that's talent she did that. Yeah, yeah, you are a professional. Yes,
Speaker 1: look at you. Okay, she does a lot of things.
Speaker 1: And I noticed that when you start paying attentions when
Speaker 1: I was watching the film, and I was like, wow,
Speaker 1: this is really a good cat. I know that a
Speaker 1: lot of these you know, actors. Um what what else
Speaker 1: do I want to know? I want to know how
Speaker 1: was the because basically when we had when you had
Speaker 1: to talk back, it looked like you had good Karai
Speaker 1: the rest of the castle. What was that like being
Speaker 1: in Puerto Rico together like that? It was amazing You know,
Speaker 1: we filmed this at the height of the pandemic, So
Speaker 1: this was an opportunity to get out of our homes,
Speaker 1: out of the spaces we were in because we were
Speaker 1: all at home going crazy. You know, you're you have
Speaker 1: cabin fever, you want to work, you want to do
Speaker 1: your art, you know, and uh, at that time, nothing
Speaker 1: was really happening in the world, you know. So it
Speaker 1: brought us out of that space and brought us into
Speaker 1: this amazing creative space and we all lived together and
Speaker 1: like these amazing huge houses that were right on the beach.
Speaker 1: So it was really like a family a fair like
Speaker 1: a family environment. Uh. And it was just super supportive
Speaker 1: and it was black in the best way because I
Speaker 1: think sometimes unfortunately when people say, oh, it was so black,
Speaker 1: it has a negative connotation to it. Unfortunately, was not
Speaker 1: that this was the best of blackness ever. It was
Speaker 1: so good, and we had a lot of local people
Speaker 1: that brought their flavor to it and they were happy
Speaker 1: to be there. So it was a great experience and
Speaker 1: I think you can see how that spilled over into
Speaker 1: the film and just in the way that we interact
Speaker 1: with each other. I ran Bay Camps, I ran you know,
Speaker 1: sleepaway camps and those. That skill set was important because
Speaker 1: we're flying people from all over the country to Puerto Rico.
Speaker 1: I'm managing housing, right. A good friend of mine own
Speaker 1: all of these properties, which was a blessing, right, um,
Speaker 1: And so I gotta make sure that they're comfortable. I
Speaker 1: gotta make sure that we were together, right, and so
Speaker 1: that I underestimated how much that would impact what they
Speaker 1: did on the screen. I just, you know, make sure
Speaker 1: my people good, right. They're all out here trusting me,
Speaker 1: you know, So I had to make sure they were good.
Speaker 1: But just that feeling of ease to be in a
Speaker 1: comfortable space, it just allowed them to just kill it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you know, like what I appreciated it was sexy, definitely,
Speaker 1: And you know, we obviously see scenes where we know
Speaker 1: their sex, but it wasn't oversaturated, Like I didn't feel like,
Speaker 1: all right, we gotta see all the booty all night.
Speaker 1: Everything is out all the time, and it's all about
Speaker 1: selling your body or the other castmates bodies rather than
Speaker 1: selling an actual story. Talk about what it's like to
Speaker 1: write above the standard for what we see in film
Speaker 1: right now, right because there is certain it's not what
Speaker 1: it was to your points, and it's a challenge, but
Speaker 1: it's one that I embraced because the films I love
Speaker 1: of those nineties black films, right, that loving basketball that
Speaker 1: you know, the Wood, you know those films, right. And
Speaker 1: the women in this film are beautiful. The men in
Speaker 1: this film are handsome, put together. You know, my beautiful
Speaker 1: baby lights up the screen every time she shows up. Um,
Speaker 1: you know my niece, you know. And they had a
Speaker 1: different pressure because it's like, are they in the movie
Speaker 1: because that's my daughter and my niece. They were because
Speaker 1: they were They were incredible, and I really like I
Speaker 1: appreciated their professionalism. They did their homework, they had tutors
Speaker 1: out of school for weeks. But I talked to my daughter,
Speaker 1: I'm like, listen, you have to show that you're not
Speaker 1: here because your name is Kevin Calor. And what she
Speaker 1: did and I'm super biased, of course, but this is
Speaker 1: the feedback. Also, no one else would have done that
Speaker 1: role the way she didn't. And so so yet to
Speaker 1: your point about just staying above the phrase these scripts,
Speaker 1: I've been pitching my films and my scripts across the
Speaker 1: industry for fifteen years. They say no, or they give
Speaker 1: me notes that I can't live with right because they
Speaker 1: want to oversex us, they want to over violence us,
Speaker 1: they want to over curse word us. And you know, I,
Speaker 1: you know, we all who we are, right, We speak,
Speaker 1: how we speak, we are how we act, and I
Speaker 1: love that. I'm not apologizing for that ever. But there
Speaker 1: are so many different layers of who we are black people,
Speaker 1: and we've got enough of the other stuff right, and
Speaker 1: so we can make my whole life again. I'm from hollow,
Speaker 1: from humphy, dirty fat. I have been cool my whole
Speaker 1: life without being anything but who I am. And it's
Speaker 1: too many young people who don't get to be who
Speaker 1: they are because media and imagery doesn't show different types
Speaker 1: of cool, right, And so the films I write I
Speaker 1: will always show different types of cool, different types of beautiful,
Speaker 1: different types other than what's out there. And it's not
Speaker 1: a force because it's this is really life, right, This
Speaker 1: is a real family that went on a vacation for
Speaker 1: a wedding and ship went crazy, right, that's you know.
Speaker 1: And what's more forced is the oversexualization of us, like
Speaker 1: you know, and for me as an actress, it was
Speaker 1: so refreshing to get a character that wasn't hyper sexualized,
Speaker 1: especially just as a black woman in the society that
Speaker 1: we live in. I feel like people want and expect
Speaker 1: us to lead with our sexuality first, is if that's
Speaker 1: the best thing we have to offer, and I think
Speaker 1: we owe more to the kids than that, you know,
Speaker 1: Like the reason why they don't know who they are
Speaker 1: is because during their formative years, that is what they're seeing,
Speaker 1: that is the standard. So they think, maybe that's what
Speaker 1: I should be doing if I want to get ahead,
Speaker 1: because all the women I see who are getting ahead
Speaker 1: are using themselves in their body in that way. So
Speaker 1: I think it's really important to have that kind of
Speaker 1: representation that isn't about that and isn't leading with your body,
Speaker 1: because we have so much more to offer than that.
Speaker 1: Everybody should. Yes, love I love the fact that this
Speaker 1: movie was based more on romance in affection. It was
Speaker 1: that's what black RV. That we exactly, It's an R
Speaker 1: and B movie and we need him. We need RV.
Speaker 1: Don't say I love the energy, you know it made you.
Speaker 1: It brought you back to that nineties nostalgia and and
Speaker 1: that was for me, that was one of the best
Speaker 1: times of black movies. You know what I'm saying even
Speaker 1: though we got a lot of different things, and I'm
Speaker 1: not knocking none of it, but those movies are those
Speaker 1: are the classics, and they don't go away. And ever
Speaker 1: this movie has the potential to go into that, you know,
Speaker 1: into that realm. So you know, I want to congratulate you,
Speaker 1: because that's the goal, Like I want to be. I
Speaker 1: want where you can on a weekend and snow and
Speaker 1: and you're watching Loving Basketball and then Aurora, right like
Speaker 1: you want like where it just flows. You're watching Brown
Speaker 1: Sugar and Aurora, you know, and it's like, oh, these
Speaker 1: are the movies were watching with my girls, with my
Speaker 1: you know, couples, retreat whatever. Like I want to fit
Speaker 1: in that space. That's my ambition is to be that
Speaker 1: storyteller that that fits in that space. And that's again,
Speaker 1: I got a lot of films that we're gonna keep
Speaker 1: fighting and make them this way, you know, and not
Speaker 1: let you know the others, you know, shift that. Let's
Speaker 1: talk about that fighting, right because this industry is, as
Speaker 1: you said, it's weird, it's nasty, it's hard to break
Speaker 1: into um and you all, I mean you like, I
Speaker 1: know you you know, this is not the first time
Speaker 1: that I'm seeing you on screen like in fact, when
Speaker 1: you when your character appears, I'm like, oh, this is
Speaker 1: gonna be good. Right to bias the same thing, Oh
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? There was several characters that
Speaker 1: I know, so you didn't have. There wasn't a B
Speaker 1: minus film. This is a list here. These are people
Speaker 1: who are real actresses and real actors, and I guess
Speaker 1: that helps. But even with that, if you don't provide
Speaker 1: the violence that whatever it is, you still can get
Speaker 1: shut down right in the industry. So how difficult is
Speaker 1: it to make the money necessary to keep this type
Speaker 1: of writing and this type of experience on or to
Speaker 1: get it to the mainstream level? Put it that way. Um,
Speaker 1: I always use the analogy is it's so fud or
Speaker 1: it's fast food. Right, I'm making so for it's harder.
Speaker 1: You got seasoned chicken, You got clean the chicken, right, y'all,
Speaker 1: Let y'all let the grease get hot, right, like you
Speaker 1: could pop the nuggets in the microwave. Everybody eat, but
Speaker 1: you're not fulfilled, right, And so yes, it's it's absolutely
Speaker 1: a fight, right because the people who make decisions don't
Speaker 1: trust our intelligence as a culture, as an audience. They say,
Speaker 1: this is what your people want to see, and I say,
Speaker 1: you've got some nerves telling me what my people want
Speaker 1: to see. I've lived like I didn't come up in Hollywood.
Speaker 1: I live with this art camps like I'm in and among.
Speaker 1: I still coach girls, I'm among the audience, right, I
Speaker 1: know what we're craving for. Right, And so I again, Joachima,
Speaker 1: you said these are not beatless anything. You know, these
Speaker 1: are star actors and actresses that just need to screen. Right.
Speaker 1: But they sit across that desk and they tell you, oh,
Speaker 1: you don't have I got. I'm not gonna shout them
Speaker 1: out because we might need to do business with them.
Speaker 1: But I got a really big distributor. We they liked
Speaker 1: the movie. They said, they wrote a glowing rejection letter.
Speaker 1: Amazing storytelling, cinematography is brilliant, the acting was great. But
Speaker 1: these names don't meet our criteria for distribution. That's direct
Speaker 1: to my face on on paper, right, with the big
Speaker 1: letter head at the top from one of the big boys, right,
Speaker 1: And this is what they do. And so I take
Speaker 1: that and I'm like, because I'm defying, I'm like, no,
Speaker 1: I'm making it with the right people, right, because we
Speaker 1: can keep recycling this fifty something or old woman to
Speaker 1: play this twenty is something you old bride and smack
Speaker 1: a bunch of makeup on her and and and get
Speaker 1: that deal right, because they trust that that person has
Speaker 1: an audience. But how much will you compromise in order
Speaker 1: to to like, obviously all of us have to compromise. Um,
Speaker 1: So that's that's my fight. My wife's an accountant, that's
Speaker 1: our fight because she's like, uh, you know what we're doing.
Speaker 1: But but I trust the process, I really do. I
Speaker 1: trust our audience. And that's really what it comes down
Speaker 1: to write the same way we tweet and post and
Speaker 1: and and argue. There are topics in this film to discuss. Right.
Speaker 1: If that discussion hits social media and people talk about
Speaker 1: it and then people engage, then it shows that this
Speaker 1: film has an audience these I don't think it's a bias.
Speaker 1: I think they care about money. The people that we
Speaker 1: need to support us on the the side of the desk, right,
Speaker 1: who are not always white people. Right. I've got some
Speaker 1: of the worst critiques from our people in terms of
Speaker 1: what they try to make me make to a certain networks.
Speaker 1: I don't even entertain I don't want to deal in
Speaker 1: certain places. Again, I'm not here to start no fights.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say no names. But there are networks
Speaker 1: where I'm like, I'm good because they're not for the culture, right,
Speaker 1: and and we don't have to get on the soapbox
Speaker 1: and pound our chest to be for the culture. We
Speaker 1: just gotta be respectful to it. And so yes, I
Speaker 1: will I do compromise in as long as I could
Speaker 1: look at myself in the mirror, right, like I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna embarrass us ever, Like y'all y'all could trust that,
Speaker 1: like if my trajectory and what what I'm building and
Speaker 1: what I'm doing. We're shooting another movie in five weeks, right,
Speaker 1: another one in the summer, like I'm not gonna stop,
Speaker 1: and ultimately people will start to trust my voice and
Speaker 1: then the audience will build once that happens. Y'all gotta
Speaker 1: worry about me, like, I'm never gonna embarrass us, always
Speaker 1: gonna make sure we're good, right, And it's just about
Speaker 1: earning that. That's what I think. That's I think you
Speaker 1: sound a lot like us in the work that we do.
Speaker 1: You know, we we fight against the social norms, We
Speaker 1: fight against the status quo. They told us we can't
Speaker 1: do it this way, and why don't y'all say it
Speaker 1: this way? Even with our podcasts, we deal with things
Speaker 1: and of that age understand you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: We understand that we're fighting an uphill battle. But we
Speaker 1: know when we get what we got, we're good and
Speaker 1: the people who would support us is good. What you
Speaker 1: we We're not gonna like you said, We're not gonna
Speaker 1: let your dad, We're not co embarrass you. We're gonna
Speaker 1: always stay in firm in our convictions because we know
Speaker 1: what it's like to be where we from. We know
Speaker 1: what we want, we know what we need, we know
Speaker 1: what our people want from us, so we're not willing
Speaker 1: to compromise that to be to fit into certain rooms,
Speaker 1: you know. And it's it's it's like you said, it's
Speaker 1: it's so food is a slow process. But every time
Speaker 1: we get another level, it's more because we know we
Speaker 1: didn't compromise, especially our moss and our values, what we
Speaker 1: definitely still on. So I appreciate you. I floored y'all,
Speaker 1: and we know this movie is gonna do great. You
Speaker 1: guys have you have what it takes, you know, I
Speaker 1: just want to. I want you to tell we've seen
Speaker 1: the movie. I want you the people watching, each of
Speaker 1: y'all tell them why should they go see the movie? Right?
Speaker 1: I say that this is a movie that will get
Speaker 1: you thinking. This is a movie that will get you talking,
Speaker 1: no matter who you watch it with. You can watch
Speaker 1: it alone. You can watch it with your boot cuddled up.
Speaker 1: You can watch it with your girls, and there's a
Speaker 1: conversation to be had that will be mentally stimulating and
Speaker 1: we'll be entertaining and we'll you know, get the blood flowing.
Speaker 1: So you will thoroughly enjoy this film. See it, yes,
Speaker 1: and you can see it anywhere. Again, we're in dirty cities.
Speaker 1: We know it's it's cold on most of the country,
Speaker 1: so you don't have to go outside. You can watch
Speaker 1: it at home. Amazon is an easy one, but it's
Speaker 1: on all digital platforms. Whatever your cable says them is
Speaker 1: that you people still got that, you know, go to
Speaker 1: your pay per view. You can just search a Rural
Speaker 1: Love Story and it's available, and you should watch it
Speaker 1: because it's told in your voice. Is for us, um,
Speaker 1: it's by us. It's unapologetically black, UM, but it's not
Speaker 1: black for black sake at no point in this movie
Speaker 1: or we're trying to prove our blackness right, which with
Speaker 1: language and just certain That's what I also hate when
Speaker 1: it's I can't be anything else right, Like my daughter can't.
Speaker 1: She's in private school and she's living in a different life,
Speaker 1: but she's still not even removed enough to be anything
Speaker 1: else right, And so we don't have to force it um.
Speaker 1: And I think this is a movie aside from just
Speaker 1: who Joachima said, this is a multigenerational cast and a
Speaker 1: multigenerational story, right. There's something for the teenagers and the
Speaker 1: young kids that can gravitate towards those characters, there's something
Speaker 1: for the elders who can gravitate towards the parents, and
Speaker 1: then for everybody else in between. So yeah, I'm super
Speaker 1: super proud, like you said, when you when you get
Speaker 1: something like this and you're able to put it on
Speaker 1: the screen despite whatever hurdles you had to go through.
Speaker 1: It feels so much better that I never have to
Speaker 1: sit watching this and say, man, I wish I wouldn't
Speaker 1: have listened to some and something right wherever happens with it.
Speaker 1: I love you so how when you when you finish
Speaker 1: a movie. How does it feel like for me when
Speaker 1: I'm watching a series or something and it's over, I'm
Speaker 1: just like life is over, Like, you know, like where's
Speaker 1: life now? I gotta find new life. So, like, what
Speaker 1: happens to you at the end of a filming process,
Speaker 1: especially with something like this. Are you just tired and
Speaker 1: you're like that's it? Or do you have a feeling
Speaker 1: like a little hole for the people and the experience.
Speaker 1: You know, it varies per project, but I will say that,
Speaker 1: you know, like Noel said, he has other movies coming out,
Speaker 1: so we all knew we were going to see each
Speaker 1: other again in that will be working on future projects together.
Speaker 1: But of course this a little bitter sweet, right because
Speaker 1: you're like, wow, this was amazing, Like Puerto Rico, this
Speaker 1: experience just like the you know, when you work with
Speaker 1: your own people, there's so much it doesn't even have
Speaker 1: to be said or explained. There's just this layer of
Speaker 1: support under you and uh, just having to go into
Speaker 1: your next project knowing that you probably won't have that.
Speaker 1: You're gonna have to get used to going back to
Speaker 1: being like, you know, your own advocate for every single thing. Um,
Speaker 1: but you can you kind of just brace yourself and
Speaker 1: you say, well, I'm gonna look forward to the next
Speaker 1: time I can get back to these people, the next
Speaker 1: time I get back to a project that has this
Speaker 1: type of love involved in it. So we need more, right, Like,
Speaker 1: I'm not here to be the one, you know, I
Speaker 1: want to. I want ten directors to come out of
Speaker 1: our camp, right, male female, black breath right where those
Speaker 1: sets look and feel like that? Right? Know how crazy
Speaker 1: we were going to making sure we have the right
Speaker 1: hair and makeup in Puerto Rico. That's the thing, Like,
Speaker 1: I wasn't going to play with these women, know. So
Speaker 1: I I have a friend who is a superstar um
Speaker 1: that we won't name. Today, when I was dealing with
Speaker 1: some entertainment industry stuff, I was like, you know, going
Speaker 1: to a meeting to make a statement about something they
Speaker 1: weren't doing. Right, she calls me up and it's like, hey,
Speaker 1: I need you to put this on your list of
Speaker 1: things hair and makeup. And I'm thinking to myself, this
Speaker 1: is a superstar. When I say supert, I'm talking about
Speaker 1: like big, big, big, big, Right, Why don't you have
Speaker 1: black people doing your hair and makeup? What are you
Speaker 1: talking about? You? Like, I'm thinking she's walking in the
Speaker 1: door with everybody with her hair makeup. No, she said,
Speaker 1: it is basically white and it's happened to me. But
Speaker 1: by the way, there are a few magazine articles I
Speaker 1: think maybe I don't know if it's vanity, but it's
Speaker 1: one of them that is like a big magazine that
Speaker 1: I'm in during the Women's March, and I look terrible. Yes,
Speaker 1: And when you feel like you look terrible, you don't
Speaker 1: present yourself the same. You got low self esteem, terrible.
Speaker 1: So I started paying because during the Women's March, we
Speaker 1: were doing a major press all the time. If you
Speaker 1: see the cover of Glamor magazine that I'm on, that
Speaker 1: is my own makeup artist that I had to bring.
Speaker 1: And by the way, they don't even want you to
Speaker 1: have that person there. They tried to put her through
Speaker 1: all types of hoops and things. She had to have
Speaker 1: the right insurance. She had. She couldn't be on the
Speaker 1: thing without a million dollars worth of insurance. It was
Speaker 1: so much drama. But why would a white woman do
Speaker 1: my Why I don't even understand what we're I think
Speaker 1: that sometimes they are genuinely convinced that they can do
Speaker 1: your hair. What do you mean I can't do your hair.
Speaker 1: I brought some oil sheet, right, I have an edge comb.
Speaker 1: I can do your hair. Yes, Google, I watched one
Speaker 1: YouTube video and I know what I'm doing. How dare you?
Speaker 1: How dare you? And that is the energy they give you,
Speaker 1: And sometimes it feels like a microaggression, but sometimes it's
Speaker 1: just aggressive. There's no micro about it. They come for
Speaker 1: you when you speak up for yourself and say I
Speaker 1: feel uncomfortable. I need someone who knows how to do
Speaker 1: my hair. You see how these other women can come
Speaker 1: in with wet hair and you can do their hair
Speaker 1: from start to finish. I had to stay up till
Speaker 1: one o'clock in the morning doing my own hair and
Speaker 1: then wake up early to make sure it looks good
Speaker 1: before I even get here, because if I don't, I
Speaker 1: will look crazy. Wow, Yo, the wet like you could
Speaker 1: show up here and get a blowout and look famulous.
Speaker 1: You're set. I gotta do a thing. Yes, I have
Speaker 1: to come done, and then try to argue with you
Speaker 1: so you don't touch you to mess it up exactly,
Speaker 1: want to change it. So you're spending money. You're spending
Speaker 1: money outside of the budget for what's supposed to be right,
Speaker 1: you're spending money trying to make your self look presentable,
Speaker 1: because then if you don't look presentable, then you're not acceptable.
Speaker 1: And then it's it's like you, we're constantly running through
Speaker 1: and around and it's not us when it's not. And
Speaker 1: that's that's why I like, we can make a list
Speaker 1: a mile long of why we need more our own right.
Speaker 1: And there are things that go on. You know, you
Speaker 1: don't even think about that, right, And I would not
Speaker 1: have thought about that had I not had a daughter now, right,
Speaker 1: Like I have a teenage daughter, right, so she has friends, right,
Speaker 1: that's my group with them. I'm the magic school bus.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm with them, So they're plight. Is my plight? Right?
Speaker 1: And so and again I have a wife, a black wife, right,
Speaker 1: and so my black sisters. So when I'm going into
Speaker 1: a film and I'm thinking about the script and I'm
Speaker 1: thinking about this, at some point, is that light bulb
Speaker 1: like who the right? Who go through the hare in
Speaker 1: Puerto Rica? And so I'm like, oh, do I have
Speaker 1: to fly out hair and makeup because I have trusted
Speaker 1: hair and makeup hair for all of my production, which
Speaker 1: is predominantly black. It's crazy. It's crazy, But there are people.
Speaker 1: I give them a lot of credit. A lot of
Speaker 1: them came up with me. A lot of them I
Speaker 1: gave their first opportunity to put anything on screen. So
Speaker 1: when I don't have the budget, they still show up
Speaker 1: because they know when I have it, I'm not taking it.
Speaker 1: I'm paying you, right, And so yeah, just all of
Speaker 1: the different things that I'm sure you guys. Again, that's
Speaker 1: why this wasn't honor because you getting your hair and
Speaker 1: makeup done to go and do press. It's like you're
Speaker 1: supposed to be fighting. No, no, I still have to.
Speaker 1: I'm a professional. This is going to carry like. It's
Speaker 1: just the craziness that that you got to endure terrible.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm gonna I'm actually gonna show you I looked.
Speaker 1: It's like I have a hat on my head, but
Speaker 1: it's actual hair. But it's like, you know, I feel
Speaker 1: that in myself, you know, but ain't gonna They don't
Speaker 1: care how it happens. They forgetting the message. I forgot
Speaker 1: the message. Whether you want to or not, you're representing
Speaker 1: so many other women. You didn't ask for that. Maybe
Speaker 1: that's not what you want some days, but when you're
Speaker 1: representing a whole movement and a whole group of people,
Speaker 1: and then you feel terrible and you feel like you
Speaker 1: look terrible. That's that's an awful situation. It is. I
Speaker 1: appreciate us being able to have this part of the
Speaker 1: conversation because I feel like I had a therapy session.
Speaker 1: And definitely, and as I should know, as I should,
Speaker 1: she serious, and she and she notices it, like in
Speaker 1: different other things, she sees other blackfooms. No, they're not
Speaker 1: doing this right. People need to be focused on this,
Speaker 1: but I didn't see that in this film. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: a problem. When I, like I said, when I got
Speaker 1: this call to add to my list of demands that
Speaker 1: I was making in this meeting that I needed to
Speaker 1: talk about hair and makeup, I thought that was not
Speaker 1: a thing at her level. So this is a systemic problem.
Speaker 1: And you know, like you said, it's just one of
Speaker 1: the many reasons why we need more of us being
Speaker 1: in the director's seat, having the budget, having the ability
Speaker 1: to bring things to life. And you said you are
Speaker 1: writer and director, but then I just heard you say
Speaker 1: that you were managing where people were sleeping. So you are,
Speaker 1: you're the writer, the director, the manager, everything, but that's
Speaker 1: what we have to do. That's what that's right. So
Speaker 1: we don't, right, And that's like every time I do
Speaker 1: a project, I build more team, right, Like, so now
Speaker 1: I have more people that are good, that are talented
Speaker 1: that I can trust, right, because one thing I couldn't
Speaker 1: do is leave anything to chance that we were putting
Speaker 1: on the screen right, right, So I had to have
Speaker 1: my hand in every aspect of it, almost maniacally because
Speaker 1: there there are people, our people and other people who
Speaker 1: are looking to say, see, it's not that good, right,
Speaker 1: see look at this right, And so I've been getting compliments.
Speaker 1: Some of them are offensive, like it's so well made,
Speaker 1: the production looks clean, like almost twenty I've made mistakes,
Speaker 1: I've made bad stuff that people will never see. I've
Speaker 1: made okay stuff that have come out and people liked it,
Speaker 1: and I look at it like right, And so now
Speaker 1: I'm getting to a point where I'm finding it like
Speaker 1: I know how to do this, and so yeah, it's good.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be more and and I'm just gonna empower
Speaker 1: more of us and keep bringing us along. Um from again.
Speaker 1: My daughter's producing the next movie. She's not in it.
Speaker 1: She wants to be behind the scenes. She wants to,
Speaker 1: you know, and so she's a producer and she's killing
Speaker 1: me because she's like, she saw things that were challenges
Speaker 1: that she has now found solutions for. So she's telling
Speaker 1: me this is we're not going to do this like
Speaker 1: this next time. UM, something like absolutely, yeah, amazing, Aurora.
Speaker 1: I look forward to the future, you know, to the movies.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be Yeah. I really appreciate the film. I
Speaker 1: appreciate the energy that you guys have, the karateie. Just
Speaker 1: watching the film, you can tell that there's love, real,
Speaker 1: real synergy and love this. So go out and watch
Speaker 1: the world and talk about it. Tell us who you hate,
Speaker 1: tell us who you like. I love the dimensions of love.
Speaker 1: That's what it is. Because a lot of people won't
Speaker 1: understand certain dimensions of love. Do you look at him
Speaker 1: and be like, what do you look at him? You
Speaker 1: got a crazy system. You got it, the sister thing,
Speaker 1: protective love. Make sure you go out and support Aurora. No, yes,
Speaker 1: Noel Callaway and Joachim Mahalis listen. Aurora is the thing
Speaker 1: to go and see. To everybody who's watching, you go
Speaker 1: see it just because we said, so that's what you do.
Speaker 1: Because that's that's it. That's it. And to our brother Aran,
Speaker 1: guests and as a producer on this project, thanks for
Speaker 1: including that. Don't do that, don't do that. We love.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for having us. Thank you for
Speaker 1: this safe space. Thank you for the conversation. This has
Speaker 1: been amazing, awesome. Thank you all so much for joining
Speaker 1: Street Politicians, amazing guests man, new friends of the family,
Speaker 1: new friends of the family. You crazy. I didn't bring
Speaker 1: it up during an interview because I didn't want to.
Speaker 1: But Noel used to live in my building in the
Speaker 1: bro Really, what you mean you didn't want to? I
Speaker 1: mean I was, but I mean, you know, I don't
Speaker 1: want to put them on, so I didn't want it
Speaker 1: to be too much because well, I guess now if
Speaker 1: you would have said that, uh, I'm gonna call her
Speaker 1: Giselle now that Woachima lived in your building, I can
Speaker 1: understand you being like, I don't want to know. It
Speaker 1: wasn't even that we got caught up in the interview
Speaker 1: and we was asking such questions about the movie that
Speaker 1: I didn't bring up that, but you used to live
Speaker 1: in my field, dope, do you know? And Wachima's energy
Speaker 1: like she's amazing. She's gonna be like, you know, she's
Speaker 1: got um the potential of you know, the Angela Bassetts
Speaker 1: of the world. Like she's gonna she has just has
Speaker 1: to keep going, keep going. She's gonna be I like her.
Speaker 1: I love both of them. I love the movie or
Speaker 1: we'll go see it. So that brings me to my
Speaker 1: I don't get it. And it goes back to what
Speaker 1: we already spoke about. We spoke about Tyree Nichols, and
Speaker 1: there was somebody else who spoke about Tyree Nichols this week,
Speaker 1: and I think it was probably the dumbest comment that
Speaker 1: I probably heard about anything, and it was Jason Whitlow
Speaker 1: and his comments that the reason this happened to Tyree
Speaker 1: Nichols and the reason why these officers did this to
Speaker 1: him was based on single parent homes, black women raising
Speaker 1: their sons being sing well. I think he also said
Speaker 1: something about which I'm assuming I never looked into it,
Speaker 1: but I'm assuming what he's also saying is that the
Speaker 1: woman the chief of police, Chief David that Oh no, no no, no,
Speaker 1: that's yes. He's saying that she and she is pretty
Speaker 1: much the mother of the police department, so she can't
Speaker 1: raise like he said, so many multidimensional trash ship that
Speaker 1: it was. It was one of the most thoughtless he
Speaker 1: thought about it. No, you couldn't have thought of when
Speaker 1: you couldn't think that it makes sense during the time
Speaker 1: that a mother had lost her child right to have
Speaker 1: a make a statement like that. He thought a black
Speaker 1: woman lost her child at the hands of the police,
Speaker 1: and you thought blaming a black black woman for what
Speaker 1: happened to this black man made sense. But you couldn't.
Speaker 1: There's no there's no way that you I just don't.
Speaker 1: I don't get how you thought that makes sense. I can't.
Speaker 1: I can't see the logic that a man is said. Yeah, man,
Speaker 1: you know, if it wasn't for single mother families, you know,
Speaker 1: this black man is silla be lives. You know, if
Speaker 1: it wasn't the woman who was running the police department,
Speaker 1: if she wasn't a single woman, then it would be
Speaker 1: he'd still be a lot. I don't understand. And the
Speaker 1: woman who lost her child was a black woman, and
Speaker 1: you thought that made sense to say? What what I'm
Speaker 1: I guess. I just I feel like he accomplished exactly
Speaker 1: what he wanted. What he got. He captured the attention,
Speaker 1: the social media following the outrage and uh conversations that
Speaker 1: you know, he's a hashtag as far as he's concerned,
Speaker 1: because people are out here like, I can't believe that
Speaker 1: he said it, and that makes them talk about him.
Speaker 1: People like that trolls. They don't care how they get attention.
Speaker 1: They just want attention. And he did think about it.
Speaker 1: He sat and and crafted a very intentional he craft.
Speaker 1: He sat and crafted a very intentional statement that is
Speaker 1: to further the mission of the Fox News brand and
Speaker 1: what it is that they represent. That's where he said it.
Speaker 1: So he's on a plant. He's on a network that
Speaker 1: provides a platform to racist to people who want to
Speaker 1: be white supremacist, to white supremacist theory, to people who
Speaker 1: wish that they can, um, you know, create as far
Speaker 1: as I'm CanCERN um just you know, to create a
Speaker 1: very prominent oppressed society. Like these are people who their
Speaker 1: everyday thought process is how to dehumanize the entire black
Speaker 1: race as much as possible, even using some of our own,
Speaker 1: so that they can create their new world order. I mean,
Speaker 1: this is very intentional. And when you say you don't
Speaker 1: believe it makes sense with it, it doesn't make sense.
Speaker 1: And I understand what you're saying. It's just like shi
Speaker 1: it happens that we see, but it doesn't make sense.
Speaker 1: We we know that it happens, but it still doesn't
Speaker 1: go along with regular logics. So what he does is
Speaker 1: further white supremacy, just like these he's he's contribute to
Speaker 1: the same exact you know, the same exact narrative, the
Speaker 1: same exact objective that the people in the system that
Speaker 1: created these officers is and he doesn't even realize and
Speaker 1: he rather and it probably does realize that well, sometimes
Speaker 1: you know what it is. I really don't think they realize.
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people, especially black people, who
Speaker 1: feed into white supremacy, have been simpen te for so
Speaker 1: long that they don't even realize. They think that they're saying,
Speaker 1: you know, black people need this man. You don't need
Speaker 1: no single parent. That's what it is. And those things
Speaker 1: and the black woman is the problem, and all of
Speaker 1: these issues that feeds white supremacy to continue. It's narrative,
Speaker 1: and they've brought into it because they've been accepted into
Speaker 1: these spaces. A lot of them. There's a lot of
Speaker 1: these black faced individuals that I see that walk into
Speaker 1: these white spaces and they utilize this verbiage in this
Speaker 1: dialogue and these narratives, and they be they're celebrated. The
Speaker 1: white people say, that's what we're trying to tell you.
Speaker 1: But but they think they are because them. And then
Speaker 1: just like the black men, they realized how quick they
Speaker 1: lost their jobs, how quick they got charged. And then
Speaker 1: now you know, we've just seen that the other officer,
Speaker 1: but it didn't happen to us, the white But this
Speaker 1: is what I'm saying. So the reality is when brothers
Speaker 1: like that, the man with the black face, and they
Speaker 1: talked like that, and they feed this false narrative. You know,
Speaker 1: it's it's people who committed crimes who come from to family,
Speaker 1: who come from they had a father, had they lived
Speaker 1: with the grandmother, the father, the mother, and they still
Speaker 1: committed crimes. They committed even more so to continue to
Speaker 1: create this narrative. You know a lot of these people
Speaker 1: are successful. You look at you know a lot of
Speaker 1: people committed They went to college, they did all the
Speaker 1: things that you said you're supposed to do, so you know,
Speaker 1: at some point they made decisions that they wanted to
Speaker 1: be on the side of the oppressor. You know, they
Speaker 1: figured they wanted this power that comes with it they got.
Speaker 1: They brought into a system, you know, And that's what
Speaker 1: we say about the police system. The system is systemically racisms.
Speaker 1: The system is systemically racist. It makes you believe that
Speaker 1: you can harm black people and get away with it.
Speaker 1: You know, they tell you how to do it. That
Speaker 1: is justified, justified. If you listen to them say, oh,
Speaker 1: you resisting arrest, you're going from U. They know there's
Speaker 1: a playbook. You know, there's a playbook. And if we
Speaker 1: had and I say this all the time, we had
Speaker 1: not seen this video, they would have got away with
Speaker 1: the playbooks. Just what we gotta do is say I
Speaker 1: felt for my life. He went from my weapon. And
Speaker 1: if we if they don't, if we didn't have this
Speaker 1: video tape that show clearly every hit, every kick, every stump,
Speaker 1: every the man being incapacitating and be if we had
Speaker 1: not seen that, if we had not seen all these things,
Speaker 1: we would still be sitting and said justice for this person.
Speaker 1: We might not say. Peopleuld be like, yo, why we
Speaker 1: why we don't know what he did? We need to
Speaker 1: see what happened before and be black people, what y'all see?
Speaker 1: That's what y'all doing, man, see what happened before. People
Speaker 1: just need to comply. You know, you can't just not
Speaker 1: do with the police. Tell you need to get on
Speaker 1: your knees. You need to do all this ship man.
Speaker 1: So you know, I just want to say to Jason Wolock,
Speaker 1: I can't say that. I just can't say that. I'm
Speaker 1: just not even sure why people are even talking about it.
Speaker 1: Like to me, I feel like it's a waste of mind.
Speaker 1: And you know what, I just don't have room. There
Speaker 1: are people out here that they make space to ensure that,
Speaker 1: like there's a counter narrative, and I respect that. So
Speaker 1: they need to do that and we we support it,
Speaker 1: and but I just don't have it to know. I'm saying,
Speaker 1: people who counter who are countering what he said. You
Speaker 1: got d l hugely out there. You've got Man the
Speaker 1: Seals out there. Of course, you have teslaent Figure. Oh,
Speaker 1: You've got people that are pushing back against what he said.
Speaker 1: And so I'm saying they make the space, and though
Speaker 1: they have crazy, busy lives and all of that, but
Speaker 1: they make the space from a media perspective to ensure
Speaker 1: that there is a counter narrative. And I support them
Speaker 1: doing that and where I can lend my thoughts and
Speaker 1: ideas so that they can help to develop you know,
Speaker 1: their full um statement and their full opinion or you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: their full opinion about these issues. I want to do that. However,
Speaker 1: I don't have the space in my life to let
Speaker 1: Jason Whitlock like come into my dreams. I can't deal
Speaker 1: with it. I don't because you know me, I take
Speaker 1: the ship to my dream it. It'll be all night.
Speaker 1: I'll be up right and stuff, texting everybody. You know
Speaker 1: how I start. When I get into it. I want
Speaker 1: to talk to everybody that I'm close to to be like,
Speaker 1: did you hear is? Why do you say? I can't
Speaker 1: do it? So I just tell Jason Whitlock peace that
Speaker 1: other words. It's other words, but we're not the words. No,
Speaker 1: you haven't. I'm trying. You know you are right. Go
Speaker 1: to the Franks stand. They're selling Franks by a couple
Speaker 1: of Francs. So as Jason Woodlock heads to the Franks Stan,
Speaker 1: We're gonna end this week's episode. Shout out to Noel Callaway.
Speaker 1: Shout out to Kima Hollis, the writer and produced the
Speaker 1: Slash Management Slash Travel Agents slash everything for this great
Speaker 1: film and of course the star and she is definitely
Speaker 1: a star that brings us to the end of another episode.
Speaker 1: Back in the studio today. Yeah, that's right. For the
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