WEBVTT - Claude Duval: The First Gallant Highwayman 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:04.399 Welcome to Criminalia, a production of Shondaland Audio in partnership 0:00:04.440 --> 0:00:05.359 with iHeartRadio. 0:00:26.720 --> 0:00:31.360 The legendary representations of highwaymen are often told through word 0:00:31.400 --> 0:00:35.400 of mouth or a lore ballads, and sometimes novels and plays, 0:00:35.440 --> 0:00:39.120 and there's probably been a movie or two or three 0:00:39.320 --> 0:00:44.040 based on the more famous robbers. Some highwaymen had originally 0:00:44.080 --> 0:00:47.640 been soldiers who had fallen on hard times. Some were 0:00:47.840 --> 0:00:52.160 straight up criminals, and some, like Claude Duval, were highwaymen 0:00:52.200 --> 0:00:56.840 who were polite, chivalrous, and sometimes portrayed as a version 0:00:56.880 --> 0:00:59.960 of robin Hood, although none of them gave their loot 0:01:00.080 --> 0:01:04.440 to those less fortunate. Opinions differ among biographers and historians 0:01:04.480 --> 0:01:07.759 when it comes to Claude's life, So let's talk about 0:01:07.760 --> 0:01:11.199 how his acts of highway robbery created what became known 0:01:11.280 --> 0:01:16.479 as the gentleman robber. Welcome to Criminalia. I'm Maria Tremarky. 0:01:16.240 --> 0:01:19.840 And I'm Holly Frye. Claude was born in sixteen forty 0:01:19.840 --> 0:01:23.360 three in Normandy. His father was a miller that's a 0:01:23.400 --> 0:01:26.640 person who operates a mill to grind grain, and his 0:01:26.720 --> 0:01:29.920 mother was a tailor. There are some versions of his 0:01:29.959 --> 0:01:32.960 story that suggests that they had at one point been 0:01:33.000 --> 0:01:36.080 a noble family and then were stripped of title and land. 0:01:36.720 --> 0:01:40.080 But that's not something that we can corroborate. He did 0:01:40.120 --> 0:01:42.640 grow up in dont, France, where it was said that 0:01:42.760 --> 0:01:46.800 quote common honesty was a most uncommon ingredient in the 0:01:46.840 --> 0:01:50.920 moral economy of the place. So maybe he didn't stand 0:01:50.960 --> 0:01:53.920 a chance at living a legit life if that statement 0:01:54.000 --> 0:01:58.240 painted a correct narrative. He was educated, but only to 0:01:58.320 --> 0:02:01.920 the level his parents thought he needed. They believed that 0:02:02.000 --> 0:02:04.400 he would become a footman, which was one of the 0:02:04.520 --> 0:02:08.360 higher ranking domestic worker roles in an upper class household. 0:02:09.080 --> 0:02:12.240 At age thirteen, Claude took a job as a stable boy, 0:02:12.320 --> 0:02:15.280 where he was given the opportunity to travel to Paris 0:02:15.280 --> 0:02:18.400 with some of the English royalists who'd followed Charles the 0:02:18.440 --> 0:02:22.160 Second to France. He went, and his work there as 0:02:22.200 --> 0:02:25.760 a footman paid off. By age fourteen. He was working 0:02:25.760 --> 0:02:28.560 for the English exiles who were waiting for the restoration 0:02:28.639 --> 0:02:34.080 of the monarchy. The restoration was, at its very simple basics, 0:02:34.360 --> 0:02:37.720 the re establishment of Charles the Second as King of England. 0:02:38.320 --> 0:02:40.840 If you listened to the first episode of the season 0:02:40.960 --> 0:02:44.600 about the Wicked Lady, this follows right on the heels 0:02:44.600 --> 0:02:48.520 of Charles the First being executed and the parliamentarians taking over. 0:02:49.400 --> 0:02:52.800 Mostly Claude spent his time running errands, but he also 0:02:52.840 --> 0:02:56.520 had a job at Sannasprie, described as the cross between 0:02:56.600 --> 0:02:59.720 an ale house and a brothel. It was here that 0:02:59.800 --> 0:03:03.080 his storians believe he mostly just flirted with women, but 0:03:03.320 --> 0:03:05.880 also practiced his charm and charisma. 0:03:06.320 --> 0:03:09.240 When Claude moved to England in sixteen sixty with the 0:03:09.280 --> 0:03:14.280 formerly exiled royalists and nobility, this coincided with when Charles 0:03:14.320 --> 0:03:17.120 the Second was restored to the throne, he went to 0:03:17.200 --> 0:03:20.239 work as a footman for a quote person of quality. 0:03:21.280 --> 0:03:24.840 That person of quality is thought to have been Charles Lennox, 0:03:24.919 --> 0:03:28.080 Duke of Richmond. It's at this time in his life 0:03:28.120 --> 0:03:30.760 where he learned the manners of a gentleman, which he 0:03:30.840 --> 0:03:35.080 later used to enhance his gentleman robber reputation. But the 0:03:35.120 --> 0:03:39.160 footman gig did not last very long for Claude. Rumors 0:03:39.240 --> 0:03:42.800 suggest that he spent too much money on drinking, gambling 0:03:42.920 --> 0:03:47.160 and women, and with his finances dwindling, and probably that 0:03:47.240 --> 0:03:51.360 behavior wasn't looked upon with delight by his employer, he 0:03:51.560 --> 0:03:54.720 decided to take a turn as a highwayman and began 0:03:54.800 --> 0:03:57.880 dabbling in robbery as a side gig, and in no 0:03:58.040 --> 0:04:01.800 time his new lifestyle brought fame and fortune. 0:04:02.000 --> 0:04:05.120 Claude had arrived in England from France at age seventeen, 0:04:05.560 --> 0:04:07.840 which was right in the middle of what the Newgate 0:04:07.920 --> 0:04:11.440 Calendar called quote universal joy upon the return of the 0:04:11.560 --> 0:04:15.840 royal family, which made the whole nation almost mad. Everyone 0:04:15.960 --> 0:04:20.000 ran into extravagances, and Duval, whose inclinations were as vicious 0:04:20.040 --> 0:04:25.440 as any man's, soon became an extraordinary proficient in gaming, purring, 0:04:25.680 --> 0:04:30.160 drunkenness and all manner of debauchery. Of note that use 0:04:30.279 --> 0:04:35.000 of vicious here refers to his proclivity toward his vices, 0:04:35.360 --> 0:04:38.599 not violence. But when he started to run out of funds, 0:04:38.680 --> 0:04:42.400 he'd rob a few English locals. He got himself his 0:04:42.480 --> 0:04:46.600 gentlemanly reputation because he didn't participate in the rough behavior 0:04:46.720 --> 0:04:51.240 and murderers undertakings of many of his fellow highwaymen. He 0:04:51.320 --> 0:04:53.800 wanted it known that he was appalled by those who 0:04:53.920 --> 0:04:56.960 used violence, and he himself would never engage in such 0:04:56.960 --> 0:05:00.919 a thing. Claude became known for his politeness and his chivalry, 0:05:01.040 --> 0:05:04.520 as well as the quote romantic darling of the ladies, 0:05:05.160 --> 0:05:09.320 violent or not, though a highway robber, gentleman, robber or 0:05:09.440 --> 0:05:12.160 thug would be hanged just the same. 0:05:13.279 --> 0:05:17.400 Claude was a celebrated French born robber of Restoration, England, 0:05:17.880 --> 0:05:21.080 a period that ran from sixteen sixty to sixteen eighty eight, 0:05:21.480 --> 0:05:25.600 and his career choice popularized him as a dashing highwayman, 0:05:26.080 --> 0:05:28.920 a word that first appeared in an Anglo Saxon document 0:05:28.960 --> 0:05:33.040 from ten seventeen. The golden age of highway robbery is 0:05:33.080 --> 0:05:36.880 considered to have been between seventeen hundred to eighteen thirty, 0:05:37.560 --> 0:05:40.240 but it's Claude who is one of the earliest name 0:05:40.360 --> 0:05:44.280 brigands recorded by the London Gazette of sixteen sixty six. 0:05:45.080 --> 0:05:48.719 His reputation and his press coverage was built on his 0:05:48.880 --> 0:05:53.840 fashionable appearance and gallant treatment toward those he robbed. He 0:05:53.920 --> 0:05:57.120 never did resort to physical violence, at least as far 0:05:57.160 --> 0:06:00.920 as we can tell. He mostly operated on the roads 0:06:00.960 --> 0:06:04.839 to London. A stage coach, for instance, could only average 0:06:04.839 --> 0:06:07.359 about seven miles per hour, give or take, and that 0:06:07.480 --> 0:06:11.200 made it really easy to ambush on a horse, usually 0:06:11.279 --> 0:06:14.680 a stolen horse and with a flint locked pistol, which 0:06:14.720 --> 0:06:17.040 was a fairly new style of firearm that was known 0:06:17.080 --> 0:06:20.919 to be light, accurate and cheap compared to its predecessors. 0:06:21.480 --> 0:06:23.160 We're going to take a break for a word from 0:06:23.160 --> 0:06:26.800 our sponsors. When we return, we'll tell the most famous 0:06:26.839 --> 0:06:29.559 tale there is about Claude, the gentleman robber. 0:06:43.279 --> 0:06:47.719 Welcome back to Criminalia. With a quote flamboyant sweep of 0:06:47.760 --> 0:06:52.520 his feathered hat, Claude became the most wanted highwayman in England. 0:06:53.040 --> 0:06:56.359 Claude found the richest marks and therefore many of his 0:06:56.520 --> 0:07:00.480 raids took place at Maidenhead Thicket, a dense land at 0:07:00.480 --> 0:07:03.440 the time, as well as on the Bath Road. He 0:07:03.520 --> 0:07:07.000 found Blackheath and Hampstead to also be quite lucrative. 0:07:07.560 --> 0:07:11.800 His image as a debonair and courteous highwayman was important 0:07:11.920 --> 0:07:14.320 to him. So we're going to tell a story that 0:07:14.840 --> 0:07:17.680 maybe truth or close to the truth, but even if 0:07:17.720 --> 0:07:20.240 it's not the truth, it's a perfect way to describe 0:07:20.240 --> 0:07:23.680 his style. The crime he may be most famous for, 0:07:24.120 --> 0:07:28.800 and which has likely been exaggerated over the centuries, was 0:07:28.800 --> 0:07:31.920 his attempt to rob a couple at Hampstead Heath. As 0:07:31.920 --> 0:07:34.400 he approached the carriage, he yelled out the call of 0:07:34.440 --> 0:07:38.440 the highway robber, stand and deliver. According to English critic, 0:07:38.600 --> 0:07:42.160 essayist and poet Lee Hunt, this robbery was quote an 0:07:42.200 --> 0:07:45.040 eternal feather in the cap of highway gentility. 0:07:45.600 --> 0:07:50.560 Here's what allegedly went down. The carriage was carrying a nobleman, 0:07:50.880 --> 0:07:55.880 his wife, and their domestic worker when Claude stopped them unexpectedly. 0:07:56.360 --> 0:08:00.320 The wife challenged Claude to a contest described as a 0:08:00.400 --> 0:08:05.360 quote musical interlude involving a flute and a coronto. That's 0:08:05.360 --> 0:08:08.160 a type of dance. You might not expect a highwayman 0:08:08.280 --> 0:08:10.800 to carry a flute along with his pistols and sword 0:08:10.840 --> 0:08:14.080 and other tools of the trade, but according to this legend, 0:08:14.320 --> 0:08:18.760 he had one, and in response to her challenge, started 0:08:18.760 --> 0:08:21.800 to play along with her. He asked whether she could 0:08:21.880 --> 0:08:24.680 dance as well as she played. That was an invitation 0:08:24.840 --> 0:08:28.720 she accepted. Her husband was against it. He probably thought 0:08:28.720 --> 0:08:31.120 this was the weirdest flirting his wife had ever done. 0:08:31.440 --> 0:08:34.559 And so these two people, according to lore, danced to 0:08:34.679 --> 0:08:38.240 karanto under the moonlight. Though we can't figure out who 0:08:38.240 --> 0:08:41.120 would have been playing the flute exactly. Maybe he could 0:08:41.120 --> 0:08:44.720 play and dance at the same time, but this very request, 0:08:44.840 --> 0:08:48.200 it said, amused Claude, and because he was so delighted 0:08:48.240 --> 0:08:51.960 by the interaction, he reduced their payment to him from 0:08:52.040 --> 0:08:55.840 four hundred pounds to a mere one hundred, and he 0:08:56.000 --> 0:08:59.400 did make them promise to never bother him. This sounds 0:08:59.520 --> 0:09:03.320 like a slow, lightly hilarious, and very romanticized version of 0:09:03.360 --> 0:09:06.720 the story, doesn't it. There is another version with a 0:09:06.760 --> 0:09:10.839 different ending. In that one, the nobleman had neglected to pay, 0:09:11.360 --> 0:09:14.440 but under Claude's demands he did, and he paid the 0:09:14.440 --> 0:09:19.199 full four hundred exaggerated or not, This story became an 0:09:19.200 --> 0:09:23.400 important scene, immortalized in a painting by William Powell Frith 0:09:23.720 --> 0:09:27.600 in eighteen sixty. It also showed up in other artworks. 0:09:28.000 --> 0:09:31.440 Dancing with his target is a great example that set 0:09:31.440 --> 0:09:36.440 Claude apart from other highwaymen, and it's a distinctive behavior. 0:09:37.080 --> 0:09:40.040 Yet he often rode with men who were criminals and 0:09:40.080 --> 0:09:43.000 who probably did not ascribe to the same code of 0:09:43.040 --> 0:09:46.280 conduct as he did. The myth of his life later 0:09:46.320 --> 0:09:49.560 became even more embellished, with some people claiming that he 0:09:49.640 --> 0:09:52.920 once saved Charles the Second's life and that he was 0:09:52.960 --> 0:09:55.960 a bit more than just a friend to Nell Gwynn 0:09:56.600 --> 0:09:59.760 pretty witty Nell, as she was called, was an actress, 0:09:59.800 --> 0:10:03.880 but is probably best remembered in history as a mistress 0:10:04.000 --> 0:10:05.400 of King Charles the Second. 0:10:06.040 --> 0:10:11.080 On November nineteenth, sixteen sixty nine, a proclamation listing notorious 0:10:11.160 --> 0:10:17.439 offenders was issued. Claude was number one on that list. Additionally, 0:10:17.559 --> 0:10:20.439 a reward of twenty pounds was placed on his head, 0:10:20.720 --> 0:10:24.040 and the London Gazette described him as quote the most 0:10:24.080 --> 0:10:28.920 wanted highwayman in England. Many accounts suggest that Claude left 0:10:29.000 --> 0:10:32.440 England for France at this time, hoping that authorities in 0:10:32.480 --> 0:10:35.800 his own reputation would cool down a little bit. But 0:10:35.920 --> 0:10:38.760 he found that the practice of highway robbery was a 0:10:38.880 --> 0:10:42.880 lot less lucrative in France, mainly because carriages and the 0:10:42.880 --> 0:10:46.160 people who traveled in them typically traveled with less money 0:10:46.200 --> 0:10:50.440 and more guns than those outside of London. So caution 0:10:50.559 --> 0:10:54.000 to the wind, Claude returned to England with quote a 0:10:54.040 --> 0:10:56.319 flamboyant sweep of his feathered hat. 0:10:56.960 --> 0:10:58.560 We're going to take a break for a word from 0:10:58.600 --> 0:11:15.920 our sponsors. When we're back, we'll talk about Claude's arrest. 0:11:17.640 --> 0:11:22.040 Welcome back to Criminalium. The road ended for Claude in 0:11:22.120 --> 0:11:27.199 sixteen seventy, so let's talk about his arrest, trial and execution. 0:11:28.840 --> 0:11:31.160 It was in a tavern called the Hole in the 0:11:31.200 --> 0:11:34.560 Wall in Covent Garden where Claude was arrested in December 0:11:34.600 --> 0:11:39.040 of sixteen sixty nine after having a bit too much ale, 0:11:39.720 --> 0:11:42.600 and it didn't help his cause that he was carrying 0:11:42.720 --> 0:11:47.040 three pistols and a sword. According to his biographer William Pope, 0:11:47.080 --> 0:11:50.320 it's generally considered that if he had been sober, he 0:11:50.400 --> 0:11:54.640 wouldn't have been apprehended so easily. Too much ale, At 0:11:54.720 --> 0:11:58.120 least what we uncovered in our early research seems to 0:11:58.120 --> 0:12:00.440 be a pattern for arrest among high waymen. 0:12:01.600 --> 0:12:06.959 His exploits had deepened his polite reputation, especially his chivalry 0:12:06.960 --> 0:12:12.040 with women. In fact, Claude had fans. Some women actually 0:12:12.280 --> 0:12:16.200 wanted to be robbed by him, and this arrest was 0:12:16.320 --> 0:12:20.400 just not the affair they were looking for. Alexander Smith's 0:12:20.440 --> 0:12:22.920 A History of the Lives and Robberies of the most 0:12:22.960 --> 0:12:28.320 Notorious Highwaymen, Footpads, Shoplifts and Cheats, which was published after 0:12:28.320 --> 0:12:32.040 Claude's death, turned people on to the lives and motivations 0:12:32.040 --> 0:12:36.280 of these popular criminals. Although Smith was trying to persuade 0:12:36.320 --> 0:12:40.440 people against a life of crime. Writing during the golden 0:12:40.480 --> 0:12:44.720 age of highwaymen, quote stirred the public appetite for tales 0:12:44.720 --> 0:12:50.040 of rascality. Smith's book was heavily edited, but the authenticity 0:12:50.679 --> 0:12:53.040 that's got big Air quotes on it of his narrative, 0:12:53.400 --> 0:12:56.720 he claimed, was at its heart to keep the criminal's 0:12:56.800 --> 0:13:01.040 voice in the expression of the accounts. When every publisher 0:13:01.120 --> 0:13:05.000 wanted a good story, even if factual information was kind 0:13:05.000 --> 0:13:09.400 of overlooked. In fact, publishers began to visit Newgate Prison 0:13:10.000 --> 0:13:13.160 looking for criminals who were willing to sell their stories. 0:13:13.800 --> 0:13:16.640 Claude had a short stay at Newgate Prison while waiting 0:13:16.679 --> 0:13:19.840 for his trial. It was once the most notorious prison 0:13:19.920 --> 0:13:24.320 in London. While there, it's reported that he had many guests. 0:13:24.920 --> 0:13:27.920 Most of his admirers were women, and women were the 0:13:27.920 --> 0:13:31.280 ones lining up to visit the Gentleman robber. Claude was 0:13:31.360 --> 0:13:34.240 arraigned and convicted at the Old Bailey on six counts 0:13:34.240 --> 0:13:38.840 of highway robbery. Though he had certainly committed additional highway crimes, 0:13:39.000 --> 0:13:42.240 there was no evidence to prove he did. There were 0:13:42.240 --> 0:13:46.080 many attempts, mainly from women, to grant reprieve those who 0:13:46.080 --> 0:13:48.760 didn't want to see him imprisoned, argued about his good 0:13:48.880 --> 0:13:52.479 character and that he had never engaged in any violence. 0:13:53.200 --> 0:13:56.160 In fact, Claude was convinced he would be pardoned by 0:13:56.240 --> 0:14:00.880 Charles the Second, he was not. During his trial, Judge 0:14:00.920 --> 0:14:04.760 Sir William Morton ignored the protests and because of quote 0:14:04.800 --> 0:14:08.160 the spectacle of ladies of fashion and beauty masked with 0:14:08.280 --> 0:14:12.000 tear stained faces, he cleared the courtroom at one point 0:14:12.080 --> 0:14:12.880 during proceeding. 0:14:13.880 --> 0:14:17.320 Taught at last after a ten year successful career in 0:14:17.400 --> 0:14:21.760 highway robbery, Claude was sentenced to death by hanging at Tiburn. 0:14:22.480 --> 0:14:25.640 He who quote brought class and dignity to the profession 0:14:25.640 --> 0:14:30.320 of highwaymen, died in London on January twenty first, sixteen seventy. 0:14:31.400 --> 0:14:34.000 He may have been French by birth, but as an 0:14:34.040 --> 0:14:38.160 English highwayman under English law, he was hanged. He was 0:14:38.200 --> 0:14:42.440 twenty seven years old. Claude was buried at Saint Paul's Church, 0:14:42.640 --> 0:14:47.920 possibly under the pseudonym Peter Duval. The Newgate Calendar described 0:14:47.920 --> 0:14:51.760 his funeral as a quote large affair. He was laid 0:14:51.800 --> 0:14:54.960 in state, a distinguished burial that allowed people to view 0:14:55.040 --> 0:14:59.600 him and paid their respects. Many people attended the funeral 0:14:59.640 --> 0:15:02.720 and its said his tomb had quote a white marble 0:15:02.800 --> 0:15:06.760 stone laid over him. So this, i'll suggests he was 0:15:06.880 --> 0:15:10.600 not treated like a common criminal in death. He was 0:15:10.760 --> 0:15:14.880 perhaps more a celebrity criminal who helped create the cultural 0:15:14.920 --> 0:15:16.880 identity of the gentleman robber. 0:15:17.840 --> 0:15:20.760 His memoirs were written by William Pope while Claude was 0:15:20.800 --> 0:15:25.200 at Newgate Prison and are considered the main source of 0:15:25.280 --> 0:15:28.640 many events in his life, including the first account of 0:15:28.640 --> 0:15:33.320 his time as a highwayman. It was and is considered 0:15:33.360 --> 0:15:37.800 the exaggerated biographical account that turned Claude into a folk legend. 0:15:38.520 --> 0:15:43.320 Some truth, some truthsh but in the end it's believed 0:15:43.440 --> 0:15:46.440 Claude was the gentleman robber who paved the way for 0:15:46.520 --> 0:15:50.080 future depictions and adventures of the chivalrous highwayman. 0:15:50.800 --> 0:15:52.840 Would you like a swig from the hip flask? 0:15:53.160 --> 0:15:56.400 Time? Maybe two? Oh Claude? 0:15:56.960 --> 0:16:02.320 Okay? So in doing this one, I wanted to incorporate 0:16:02.560 --> 0:16:07.800 the fact that Claude was French but operated largely in England, 0:16:08.280 --> 0:16:13.360 so ingredients are coming from both countries. And I wanted 0:16:13.360 --> 0:16:19.320 to include Ale because that features in his arrest, as 0:16:19.360 --> 0:16:22.440 well as the place that he worked when he was younger. 0:16:22.680 --> 0:16:25.880 So it's actually named after that place, the Santa Spree, 0:16:26.440 --> 0:16:29.760 because a spree, of course in French means spirit, which 0:16:29.800 --> 0:16:34.200 references alcohol on a secondary way. And also because Claude 0:16:34.200 --> 0:16:35.920 just had a lot of spirit. 0:16:35.640 --> 0:16:38.240 So you could say that now that's. 0:16:38.000 --> 0:16:42.280 His drink, the Santa Spree. So this one is easy 0:16:42.320 --> 0:16:44.480 to put together, but there is some floater on top. 0:16:44.560 --> 0:16:47.080 So get ready. You are going to combine in your 0:16:47.120 --> 0:16:51.120 shaking tin an ounce and a half of gin, three 0:16:51.200 --> 0:16:53.440 quarters of an ounce of lime juice, so that gin 0:16:53.720 --> 0:16:58.680 is referencing England, three quarters of an ounce of benedictine, 0:16:58.800 --> 0:17:02.400 which is French, it's a French herbal liquor, and then 0:17:02.600 --> 0:17:05.000 three quarters of an ounce of simple syrup. And you're 0:17:05.000 --> 0:17:07.680 gonna give that a good shake with ice, and you're 0:17:07.720 --> 0:17:11.320 gonna strain it into a glass that can hold at 0:17:11.400 --> 0:17:14.400 least six ounces of liquid, because then you are going 0:17:14.400 --> 0:17:17.720 to float on top of it three ounces of ale. 0:17:18.240 --> 0:17:20.200 So this is another good time where you get out 0:17:20.240 --> 0:17:24.600 your bar spoon with the flat end that sits perpendicular 0:17:24.720 --> 0:17:28.159 to the actual shaft of the spoon and pour it 0:17:28.240 --> 0:17:32.320 down it very carefully, and the ale is darker than 0:17:32.359 --> 0:17:34.199 the rest of the drinks, so you get kind of 0:17:34.400 --> 0:17:38.399 a rich top to it. How you drink this is 0:17:38.720 --> 0:17:42.880 a drinker's choice because it tells the story two ways. 0:17:43.520 --> 0:17:46.639 You can just drink it as it's presented at that point, 0:17:46.640 --> 0:17:49.080 and you start with ale, and then it gets richer 0:17:49.160 --> 0:17:53.080 and becomes a little more interesting and sweeter as you 0:17:53.160 --> 0:17:55.199 go as the two mix together in the tipping of 0:17:55.200 --> 0:17:58.920 the glass. Or you can stir it together, which does 0:17:58.960 --> 0:18:02.919 something very interesting because it still has the mouthfeel of 0:18:02.960 --> 0:18:06.640 an ale like that, you know, kind of frothy, slightly 0:18:06.680 --> 0:18:09.960 bubbly thing, but it doesn't taste like one at all, 0:18:10.160 --> 0:18:14.080 and it's super weird but very delicious. I was pleasantly 0:18:14.119 --> 0:18:16.240 surprised by how this one turned out. So those are 0:18:16.320 --> 0:18:19.840 your options in drinking it. Listen. I don't usually drink 0:18:19.920 --> 0:18:21.720 a lot of beers, ales, et cetera. 0:18:21.920 --> 0:18:24.560 I didn't think, so I'm a little surprised by this one. 0:18:24.720 --> 0:18:27.560 So there was a special trip to the grocery store 0:18:30.880 --> 0:18:34.600 to make the mocktail on this one. We're combining some 0:18:34.720 --> 0:18:38.520 things because you're gonna make a syrup. So before you 0:18:38.600 --> 0:18:41.080 make anything drink wise, you have to make a syrup. 0:18:41.440 --> 0:18:44.879 We're making an allspice syrup. In lieu of a simple syrup. 0:18:44.920 --> 0:18:47.399 So you're just gonna do a cup of water, a 0:18:47.440 --> 0:18:50.600 cup of sugar, and a tablespoon or a little more 0:18:50.600 --> 0:18:52.840 if you really like allspice. I like it to be 0:18:52.960 --> 0:18:55.119 very flavored. And this is kind of making up for 0:18:55.160 --> 0:18:58.800 the benedictine, so you can be pretty heavy with it. Also, 0:18:58.840 --> 0:19:01.399 if you want to add other spices to it, you 0:19:01.440 --> 0:19:04.240 can do that, throw in a little base, throw in 0:19:04.280 --> 0:19:07.960 a little you know, whatever you wish. We don't know 0:19:08.000 --> 0:19:11.199 what all's in benedictine, So the floor is yours, and 0:19:11.240 --> 0:19:13.760 you're just gonna let that simmer until it all combines, 0:19:13.800 --> 0:19:16.359 and then let it cool and strain it off, and 0:19:16.400 --> 0:19:18.240 then you have your all spice syrups. So you will 0:19:18.359 --> 0:19:21.239 use an ounce of that syrup, three quarters of an 0:19:21.240 --> 0:19:23.240 ounce of lime, and then an ounce and a half 0:19:23.280 --> 0:19:26.520 of flat tonic. You'll do the same thing. You'll shake 0:19:26.560 --> 0:19:28.639 it until it's really cold, pour it into a pre 0:19:28.800 --> 0:19:32.240 chilled glass. And then you have options here because we're 0:19:32.240 --> 0:19:35.320 obviously not going to do ale, so you can either 0:19:35.400 --> 0:19:37.680 if you want to stay very true to the original 0:19:37.680 --> 0:19:41.440 flavor of the drink, you can float a non alcoholic 0:19:41.560 --> 0:19:45.040 beer on top. I feel like that is a category 0:19:45.160 --> 0:19:48.399 that has really gotten a lot better in the last 0:19:48.440 --> 0:19:54.159 few years as more people have embraced sober lifestyles or 0:19:54.240 --> 0:19:58.280 just not into drinking alcohol, which is totally cool. So 0:19:58.320 --> 0:20:00.359 you have a lot more options. I would reck commend 0:20:00.440 --> 0:20:03.480 that as the ideal. If you don't want to do that, though, 0:20:03.520 --> 0:20:06.159 you could use ginger ale here. The problem is that 0:20:06.320 --> 0:20:08.000 ginger ale you're gonna have to go with a very 0:20:08.000 --> 0:20:10.480 low sugar one because if you go with a full 0:20:10.480 --> 0:20:13.840 sugar it's not gonna float at all because it will 0:20:13.880 --> 0:20:16.280 compete with the all spice syrup. As we all remember 0:20:16.720 --> 0:20:20.640 if we've done this before, you want your heaviest thing 0:20:20.840 --> 0:20:24.000 on the bottom. So ginger ales, depending on the brand, 0:20:24.040 --> 0:20:26.480 can sometimes have a lot of sugar and be quite thick. 0:20:27.320 --> 0:20:29.040 If you get one like that, it's gonna sink. It 0:20:29.080 --> 0:20:32.720 won't quite work the way is intended. So ideal outcome 0:20:32.760 --> 0:20:36.040 would be a non alcoholic beer. Second option is a 0:20:36.160 --> 0:20:39.360 very low sugar ginger ale, or even a ginger beer 0:20:39.359 --> 0:20:41.960 if you want a little bite, and that is the 0:20:42.040 --> 0:20:45.439 Santa Sprie to give you the spirit of Claude Duval. 0:20:45.600 --> 0:20:51.520 You can wear your feather hat o bananas. We hope 0:20:51.560 --> 0:20:57.080 you have enjoyed this very very fun story of this 0:20:57.320 --> 0:21:03.159 very spirited and sometimes hilarious gentlemen, Robert. We will be 0:21:03.200 --> 0:21:06.440 right back here again next week with another highwayman and 0:21:07.720 --> 0:21:09.680 more drinks to go with that story. We hope to 0:21:09.680 --> 0:21:34.480 see a here. Criminalia is a production of Shondaland Audio 0:21:34.560 --> 0:21:38.879 in partnership with iHeartRadio. 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