Speaker 1: Welcome to forties and free agents. We have reached the
Speaker 1: end of the draft road free agency. It's way back there.
Speaker 1: Daniel Jeremiah is with us. And at the end of
Speaker 1: every draft, they like send you a text. You probably
Speaker 1: get a million of them just what an awesome job.
Speaker 1: But I knew I would see you before we said
Speaker 1: goodbye to you, so great job on the draft.
Speaker 2: Congrats, I'm doing it well.
Speaker 3: I appreciate you, buddy. And by the way, I can't
Speaker 3: tell you the number of people that came up to
Speaker 3: me and said how much they enjoyed your work on
Speaker 3: this podcast. The reason I can't tell you that because
Speaker 3: nobody did. But I'd like to think that they're out
Speaker 3: there and I just haven't met them yet. So that's
Speaker 3: what I'm holding on to.
Speaker 1: I know they're out there. I've heard from them. Adam
Speaker 1: Shines is one of them. We'll get to that later
Speaker 1: in the show. Let's just start just some things, maybe
Speaker 1: big picture that surprised you. Later in the show, we're
Speaker 1: going to get to some great fits and what teams
Speaker 1: were excited to watch and kind of how the free
Speaker 1: agency portion of the offseason married up with this draft.
Speaker 1: But just what big picture surprised you most when you
Speaker 1: were on the set there in Green Bay.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean just the rumors day of that this
Speaker 3: Travis Hunter Jacksonville thing might happen, that they might trade
Speaker 3: up with Cleveland. And it's like every year, Greg, I
Speaker 3: could write a book on the rumors you hear within
Speaker 3: twenty four hours of the draft, and they're all some
Speaker 3: of the craziest things you've ever heard. And so it
Speaker 3: never happened. So I was somewhat reluctant to buy in
Speaker 3: on this, and then it just kept the drumbeat kept
Speaker 3: getting louder and louder, and here it is, It's done,
Speaker 3: and it sounds like something that had been agreed to
Speaker 3: for quite some time. So they did a great job
Speaker 3: of keeping that under their lid. But that one kind
Speaker 3: of just changed the kind of change the direction of
Speaker 3: the draft a little bit and kind of caught us
Speaker 3: off guard. And was is what makes the draft so
Speaker 3: compelling and so fun is that you can study it,
Speaker 3: you can try and match these things up, and then
Speaker 3: just one thing and then it just turned the whole
Speaker 3: draft upside down. And it was he brought so much
Speaker 3: electricity and energy to the entire process. I mean before
Speaker 3: we even got to the start of the draft. He's
Speaker 3: out there dancing with the band. It was just like,
Speaker 3: the guy's got some electricity to him. He's got some
Speaker 3: you know, ridiculous charisma. So it was a lot of fun.
Speaker 1: Yeah, when he was out there dancing to I'm every
Speaker 1: Woman that I was like, does he know the Jaguars
Speaker 1: are trading up for him? But by all accounts it
Speaker 1: was a surprise to even him. I'm curious, would you
Speaker 1: have done it?
Speaker 3: Would you have danced every woman?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 3: No, I would not dance to every woman? Is that
Speaker 3: what you're asking?
Speaker 2: No? Would you have traded up? I would love to
Speaker 2: see that.
Speaker 3: I Look, here's the interesting thing about this, and I've
Speaker 3: said this on a couple of shows, but in talking
Speaker 3: to like our friends, mutual friends who are Browns fans
Speaker 3: devastated right as you can imagine, They're getting a chance
Speaker 3: to watch this unbelievably talented player who's unique and what
Speaker 3: he does on both sides of the ball. So on
Speaker 3: the fan side of it, I think there's a lot
Speaker 3: of disappointment. In all my conversations around the league, a
Speaker 3: lot of people said that the Browns had no choice
Speaker 3: but to accept that trade. Like it was. They all
Speaker 3: feel like that the Browns did well in this and
Speaker 3: getting a future first round pick to go along with
Speaker 3: the that they got in this particular draft. So that's
Speaker 3: the interesting side of it. I try and fall somewhere
Speaker 3: in the middle where I can appreciate, Hey, let's be
Speaker 3: bold new regime here in Jacksonville. Let's get some excitement.
Speaker 3: You know, Travis Hunter is going to bring that. The
Speaker 3: most important objective for James Gladstone and this entire new
Speaker 3: regime led by Tony Biselli is we've got to get
Speaker 3: Trevor Lawrence up and running, so you get him a
Speaker 3: premier weapon on the opposite side of Brian Thomas Junior.
Speaker 3: I get that we'll have to wait a few years
Speaker 3: down the road to see what that first round pick
Speaker 3: next year looks like. Greg, But I did find it
Speaker 3: fascinating that the the fan reaction versus the inside of
Speaker 3: the league reaction was totally totally opposite.
Speaker 1: Well, the people inside the league, they're living in their fears.
Speaker 1: Isn't it your job? By the way, I noticed you
Speaker 1: didn't really answer the question there. Would you have done
Speaker 1: it if you were the Jaguars. I'll tell you what
Speaker 1: my answer would.
Speaker 3: Be I would I would not have done it if
Speaker 3: I were the jackson I had.
Speaker 1: A feeling, yeah, And I get it. To me, that
Speaker 1: has to be about the evaluation of Travis Hunter. And
Speaker 1: I'm just a layman here and to me, the people
Speaker 1: inside the league and your job is to evaluate these prospects.
Speaker 1: And if you believe that this prospect, Travis Hunter, to me,
Speaker 1: is that special, really is the sho Heyotani of football,
Speaker 1: then you do it. Then you stand by that evaluation.
Speaker 1: And I like that Jacksonville has talked him up like that,
Speaker 1: seeing him as a boundary breaking type of player, and apparently, according.
Speaker 2: To you, the rest of the league disagrees.
Speaker 1: I think they're going to look bad in the long run.
Speaker 1: I think they're going to look back. Process only matters
Speaker 1: so much. If he really is showing atani, they messed up.
Speaker 3: So I'll just I'll put it to you this way.
Speaker 3: How you know how hard it is We're in a
Speaker 3: seventeen soon to be an eighteen game season. How hard
Speaker 3: it is for anyone to just make it and play
Speaker 3: the full seventeen or what soon will be eighteen games.
Speaker 3: That's a challenge. If you think about it, He's going
Speaker 3: to be counted on to play thirty six games in
Speaker 3: one season, like the that's what the holdback is from
Speaker 3: teams around the league, and I can understand that. It's like,
Speaker 3: this is an all lot to ask of a human
Speaker 3: being to hold up both sides of the ball in
Speaker 3: the National Football League against grown men for eighteen games.
Speaker 3: They don't think he's going to do that. They think
Speaker 3: he's going to end up majoring on one side and
Speaker 3: just doing a little bit on the other side. But
Speaker 3: that whole argument, if we got the top corner we
Speaker 3: got the top receiver, well they don't think the league
Speaker 3: doesn't think that he's going to be able to play
Speaker 3: that number of snaps at the NFL UP.
Speaker 2: I get that, and I would agree with it.
Speaker 1: But what if he's just the best receiver in the league,
Speaker 1: or top five receiver league or top five cornerback in
Speaker 1: the league, then he's worth that, And to me, someone
Speaker 1: that was able to achieve what he did and the
Speaker 1: way that he moves in college, he's about as good
Speaker 1: of a chance at a non quarterback position to come
Speaker 1: into the league and like have a Hall of Fame
Speaker 1: type of career. Maybe maybe I'll be wrong, and maybe
Speaker 1: you're just happy that your guy, Mason Graham did wind
Speaker 1: up going in the top five. Was there even like
Speaker 1: a second when that happened. Was there even a second
Speaker 1: when that happened on the set that you thought of me?
Speaker 1: And you're like, h I get to stick it to
Speaker 1: Rosen No.
Speaker 3: But I thought of not necessarily a view, but I
Speaker 3: thought of the I thought of the dad as a
Speaker 3: dad and thinking of happened, Say you've got a you know,
Speaker 3: my kids are a little bit older, but say you've got
Speaker 3: a fourteen year old son. And I do feel for
Speaker 3: the Browns because the Browns fans, because that dad went
Speaker 3: to bed telling the sun tomorrow, we're gonna go get
Speaker 3: a Travis Hunter Jersey. We're gonna watch this two way player,
Speaker 3: gonna be one of the most exciting players in the
Speaker 3: NFL going to the dog Pound for the next ten years.
Speaker 3: You're gonna love it. And then all of a sudden,
Speaker 3: the dead and then he's like, Dad, who's the Who's
Speaker 3: kind of the stubby kid from Michigan that we just
Speaker 3: took what happened to this whole promise that you gave
Speaker 3: me about this two way show Aotani that was coming
Speaker 3: our way to the Cleveland Browns. And I say that
Speaker 3: as someone who appreciates Mason graham On like you had
Speaker 3: him as a top five player. He ended up going
Speaker 3: in the top five. But I can I can get
Speaker 3: the the tough deal you're in there. If you're a
Speaker 3: Browns fan, Yeah.
Speaker 2: You have to explain to your kid.
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, he only had five and a half sacks,
Speaker 1: but there's a lot of pressures.
Speaker 2: He's really impacting every day.
Speaker 3: It was like, never on the ground. Let's talk about son,
Speaker 3: let's talk about balance.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, I know.
Speaker 1: He explain to my daughter. She's a huge ramster, And
Speaker 1: I'm like, you got to trust me. Aaron Donald really
Speaker 1: is one of the greatest players of all time. Because
Speaker 1: you're growing up, you're a kid, you maybe don't see
Speaker 1: it all. What was another big surprise for you out
Speaker 1: of the first round? Really the whole draft?
Speaker 2: You can go anywhere.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I would say, just kind of piggybacking
Speaker 3: on that that we had another trade for a future
Speaker 3: first round pick that wasn't for a quarterback. Normally, when
Speaker 3: you're partying with next year's one, it's that aggressive, bold
Speaker 3: move because you need to pay the price to get
Speaker 3: the quarterback, and this time it was the Falcons trading
Speaker 3: next year's one to the Los Angeles Rams for James Pierce.
Speaker 3: And this is an example Greg of why teams try
Speaker 3: and guard information and keep information close to the best,
Speaker 3: because it got out it was very public that they
Speaker 3: had done a lot of work on James Pierce and
Speaker 3: that they really like James Pearson Atlanta and were considering
Speaker 3: taking him with the fifteenth pick. So that then arms
Speaker 3: less snead with the knowledge of how much they value
Speaker 3: that player and when they want to come back in
Speaker 3: he can drive a very hard price. And it's also
Speaker 3: probably understanding having worked with raheem like kind of how
Speaker 3: passionate he can be and once he sets his sights
Speaker 3: on something, he wants to get it done. So look,
Speaker 3: the Rams, that is a valuable lottery ticket that they
Speaker 3: now possess Atlanta. If they all stay healthy and all
Speaker 3: play up to their capabilities, that's a team that could
Speaker 3: they could win that division. But it's also a team
Speaker 3: with a quarterback in Michael Pennix, who unfortunately throughout his
Speaker 3: college career suffered quite a few injuries. If something unfortunately
Speaker 3: happened to him early in the year, the Rams could
Speaker 3: be staring at a top five pick, so it was
Speaker 3: a no brainer move for the Rams to pull that off.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was shocking, and it's an underrated aspect of
Speaker 1: sports fandom that doesn't get talked about that much. If
Speaker 1: you root for a team, in this case it would
Speaker 1: be the Rams and you have a future first round
Speaker 1: pick of another team, it is very fun that year
Speaker 1: to root against that.
Speaker 3: Yes, that's a good point.
Speaker 2: I remember at.
Speaker 1: Celtics rooting against the Nets back in the day, event
Speaker 1: eventually got them Jason Tatum and Jalen Brown.
Speaker 2: Like, it's a sneaky fun thing. So like gid you an.
Speaker 3: Extra team, you get, you get two teams. It's your
Speaker 3: team and whoever's playing the Falcons next year, you're locked in.
Speaker 2: It's a lot of fun.
Speaker 1: And I think that was a trade that Terry Fontineau
Speaker 1: makes in part because he's been there for a while.
Speaker 2: This is a go time type of year.
Speaker 1: They really focused on the defense all offseason, really didn't
Speaker 1: touch the offense at all, and they need to win
Speaker 1: now and they have a pretty good roster chance to
Speaker 1: do it. Most likely that pick is in the middle
Speaker 1: of the first round. All right, let's go to some
Speaker 1: of the favorite picks and fits. We can go back
Speaker 1: and forth, but since you know more than I do, why.
Speaker 2: Don't you get us going?
Speaker 3: Well, it's be I mean, not that much more. I'll go.
Speaker 3: I'll go Warren in the Colts. Tyler Warren to me,
Speaker 3: one of my favorite players in the draft come out
Speaker 3: of Penn State, and it was classic case of value
Speaker 3: because I thought he was higher rated than where he went.
Speaker 3: It was a fit. I can see him fitting in
Speaker 3: with Shane Steik and knows how to use a player
Speaker 3: like this. And then you look at you know, the
Speaker 3: the opportunity of where he was in the draft, like
Speaker 3: it all just came together perfectly for them for him
Speaker 3: to fall in their lap. It was one of those ones.
Speaker 3: As soon as they went on the clock, You're like,
Speaker 3: I will be shocked if this isn't Tyler Warren. And
Speaker 3: he's gonna be. He's gonna be a fun player to
Speaker 3: watch Andy. Just the fact that he wore forty four
Speaker 3: going to the place where that Dallas Clark wearing forty
Speaker 3: four is kind of fun as well.
Speaker 1: I love that he was someone I wanted to see
Speaker 1: where he landed before I thought about, like what he's
Speaker 1: going to be at the next level and thinking him
Speaker 1: with Shane Steichen in that offense, it's really exciting. I
Speaker 1: don't know what this Colts team is, but I do
Speaker 1: want to watch it to think about the group that
Speaker 1: they have now put together in terms of what they
Speaker 1: do after the catch, Like Tyler Warren is an absolute
Speaker 1: menace with the ball in his hands.
Speaker 2: Josh Downs, to me, is one of the most underrated
Speaker 2: players in the league.
Speaker 1: If you watch him last year, he took a big
Speaker 1: leap and he's a great young player. Michael Pittman is
Speaker 1: obviously terrific. Alec Pierce, you know, per catch was one
Speaker 1: of the best deep receivers in the entire NFL last year.
Speaker 1: You still have Adie Mitchell, you have the home run
Speaker 1: ability of Jonathan Taylor, and then you got all these
Speaker 1: quarterbacks and Anthony rich In, Theory, Daniel Jones, maybe even
Speaker 1: Riley Leonard who can run the ball, who can do
Speaker 1: a few different things.
Speaker 2: I don't know what this team is gonna be. They
Speaker 2: need to get it going now.
Speaker 1: Chris Ballard has been there for I believe nine years,
Speaker 1: and they gotta have a winning team. But I just
Speaker 1: think they're gonna be box office, which you don't really
Speaker 1: say a lot. I think it was a sneaky good weekend.
Speaker 1: If you think about a big picture, DJ, of the
Speaker 1: entire AFC South, like you added Travis Hunter, you added
Speaker 1: km Word, the Texans out some firepower like a division
Speaker 1: that doesn't.
Speaker 2: Get a lot of pop.
Speaker 1: All right, I'm gonna move on, and speaking of your
Speaker 1: tight end, I'm gonna talk about another tight end, Mason Taylor,
Speaker 1: who I know was one of your favorite players in
Speaker 1: the entire process, and he goes to the Jets. And
Speaker 1: this continues a theme that I started on last week's
Speaker 1: show of forties and free Agents. I love what the
Speaker 1: Jets are doing this offseason. So really their first two
Speaker 1: picks are two of my favorite fits. Armand Membu, a
Speaker 1: right tackle that completes that offensive line. And then yes,
Speaker 1: Mason Taylor. Later on in the show, we're we're gonna
Speaker 1: do a segment DJ rookies that they're gonna have to
Speaker 1: have a big role early. Mason Taylor would fit in
Speaker 1: that segment too, because if you look at that roster,
Speaker 1: he could be the number two receiver on that team.
Speaker 1: He's going to have a role right away. He'll have
Speaker 1: the opportunity to start right away, very reliable, and then
Speaker 1: you add Membu on the offensive line. He's really completing
Speaker 1: an offensive line that I think Joe Douglas finally got
Speaker 1: right at the end of his tenure as the GM,
Speaker 1: and now the next regime comes in and kind of
Speaker 1: completes it. I really love what the Jets have done
Speaker 1: all offseason.
Speaker 3: Yeah, A couple of things on that. One is you
Speaker 3: knew they wanted a tight end and they wanted to tackle,
Speaker 3: and so when you looked at it, and we think
Speaker 3: we might even discuss this on the show, it just
Speaker 3: makes more sense order of operation. When you look at
Speaker 3: this draft class, it's a lot deeper tight end class
Speaker 3: than it is a tackle class. So get the tackle first.
Speaker 3: Even if you would have had you know, Tyler Warren
Speaker 3: or Lovelin grated a little bit above Membo, I thought
Speaker 3: it made sense to get the tackle on board, and
Speaker 3: then no, there's going to be a tight end waiting
Speaker 3: for you, And they ended up kind of pulling that
Speaker 3: thing off. And this will give you a little bit
Speaker 3: of a peak behind the curtain, so you know, you're
Speaker 3: trying to figure that out before the draft of you
Speaker 3: know who, you know who's going where. And I'm calling
Speaker 3: people all around these you know, colleges as well as teams.
Speaker 3: You still talk to some agents trying to get all
Speaker 3: this information together. I'm talking to somebody at the University
Speaker 3: of Missouri and I'm talking about how, you know, where
Speaker 3: I think these guys can go. We're talking about different places.
Speaker 3: And I was actually trying to figure out about the
Speaker 3: Saints because you have Kirby Moore as the offensive coordinator
Speaker 3: at Missouri, his brother Kellen Moore as the head coach
Speaker 3: of the Saints. So I was trying to fish around
Speaker 3: there see if I could find out anything about what's
Speaker 3: going on with the Saints, and would the Saints take Membo?
Speaker 3: And it's like, you know, I don't know they could. Yeah,
Speaker 3: they could, absolutely, that wouldn't shock me. You know, everybody
Speaker 3: likes him and stuff. But he was on a he
Speaker 3: was on a zoom with the Jets head coach and
Speaker 3: GM like this morning and this is like the day
Speaker 3: before the draft, Like, oh, he's going to Jets. Okay,
Speaker 3: let's just let's just keep the train moving here at
Speaker 3: Membo's gonna go there, And that kind of all just
Speaker 3: kind of worked out work together.
Speaker 2: See, this is why you have such a good mock draft.
Speaker 2: It's unfair.
Speaker 3: It's not. It's not. The hit rate is not high
Speaker 3: this year, but it's little. You get little, you get
Speaker 3: little nuggets around the way, and you kind of helps
Speaker 3: with some of that stuff.
Speaker 1: I'm annoyed at what a smart looking organization the Jets
Speaker 1: look to be this offseason.
Speaker 2: We'll see give me up.
Speaker 3: By the way real quick before before you leave the Jets,
Speaker 3: don't you think. Also just trying to Aaron Glenn that
Speaker 3: his time in Detroit informed what they did. Big heavy
Speaker 3: right tackle is a little bit better in the run
Speaker 3: game than the past game coming into the league. Pene
Speaker 3: seul athletic, tied end kind of rangey, can stretch the seam.
Speaker 3: Sam Laporta like it is. I went through a bunch
Speaker 3: of these picks and was trying to figure out what
Speaker 3: informed those decisions. And I'm telling you, where you come
Speaker 3: from does inform a lot of what you try and do.
Speaker 1: And what also informs me thinking about the Jets in general,
Speaker 1: is Aaron Glenn's got a lot of juice. I'm not
Speaker 1: saying that Darren Mujie, their new GM is an important
Speaker 1: part of the new administration, but I think you can
Speaker 1: look at different teams and think about is it top down?
Speaker 2: Is it coach led? This is an Aaron Glenn organization.
Speaker 1: I think you look at the offense with Tanner Engstrom,
Speaker 1: I think all around he's he's a veteran of coaching
Speaker 1: that is ready for this opportunity. And I'm with you,
Speaker 1: I think he's not going to out of the park
Speaker 1: and trying to be like the Lions. All right, let's
Speaker 1: go to another favorite pick for you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna go Jalen Walker going to the Falcons.
Speaker 3: We talked a little bit about my surprise that they
Speaker 3: they made that bold move for Pierce to trade next
Speaker 3: year's one. This one was a no brainer, and this
Speaker 3: was fourteen to fifteen back to back. It was Tyler
Speaker 3: one going to the Colts. It was Jalen Walker going
Speaker 3: to the Falcons again, their biggest need, tremendous value with
Speaker 3: him being there, and I think there's not only the
Speaker 3: ability to rush the pass or he plays off the ball.
Speaker 3: He can do a lot of different things than them creatively.
Speaker 3: Greg to me, the fact that this guy's won a
Speaker 3: ton at Georgia, and the guy's played on great defenses
Speaker 3: and he's a leader, like they need some guys to
Speaker 3: kind of pull this group up. I don't think it's
Speaker 3: a I don't think it's a mystery how Philadelphia got
Speaker 3: their defense up and running and everybody talks about, oh
Speaker 3: they just keep going and getting all these Georgia guys. Well,
Speaker 3: that's a hyper competitive environment where they've done nothing but
Speaker 3: win and play great on that side of the ball.
Speaker 3: So I like that. And obviously you save on the
Speaker 3: airfare just getting to take a gas come on over.
Speaker 1: I love that, and I love I love that they finally,
Speaker 1: you know, they get some juice. We'll see James Pierce
Speaker 1: seems like a boom er bust type of player. Would
Speaker 1: you rather if you just need a pass rusher? Would
Speaker 1: you rather have Michael Williams at eleven to the forty
Speaker 1: nine ers? And I know they were maybe looking for
Speaker 1: a different type of player, maybe more of a run sotopper,
Speaker 1: Or would you rather have Jalen Walker?
Speaker 3: Between those times, I take Walker, I mean I kind
Speaker 3: of went back, but you know, focusing on those guys,
Speaker 3: I think Walker is just more dynamic. I think he's
Speaker 3: going to make more plays. That's another whole conversation, different
Speaker 3: topic on the Niners. Who was fascinating to me that
Speaker 3: they kind of philosophically shifted a little bit with all
Speaker 3: the guys they got. They focused on guys who can
Speaker 3: stop the run, which maybe speaks to their belief that, hey,
Speaker 3: the Rams, you know, Rams are a smash mouth team,
Speaker 3: and if we have to get through the Eagles and
Speaker 3: the playoffs, they're a smash mouth team. They put a
Speaker 3: heavy emphasis on guys who can set the edge and
Speaker 3: a real firm point of attack players versus maybe some more,
Speaker 3: you know, more talented pass rushers.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they weren't the only ones.
Speaker 1: Like nose tackles are back, Like get Alliance A Lions
Speaker 1: did it. A lot of teams Omar and Norman Lot
Speaker 1: going to the Chiefs, a lot of run stoppers getting
Speaker 1: taken high. I'll go with the pick right after Jalen
Speaker 1: Walker and just go with Walter Nolan to the Cardinals.
Speaker 1: It completes an awesome offseason I think for making this
Speaker 1: defense go from really exciting to watch schematically to just talented.
Speaker 1: Walter Nolan I said it on this show, if you
Speaker 1: just watched this top twenty plays, I think it'd be
Speaker 1: the top defensive player in this class, maybe other than
Speaker 1: Travis Hunter. So the potential is there, and you just
Speaker 1: hope he lands in the right situation that can use
Speaker 1: his flexibility. That's Arizona. And then next to some good
Speaker 1: veterans who can show him the way. That's Kalais Campbell,
Speaker 1: that's Dalvin Tomlinson. So those are two new additions. Here's
Speaker 1: some more guys that are back dj for this Cardinals team,
Speaker 1: wrapping up the whole offseason. Darius Robinson, their first round pick,
Speaker 1: basically missed most of the last year.
Speaker 2: He'll be back.
Speaker 1: Bj Ojalari a pick from two years ago who looked
Speaker 1: great as a rookie and missed all of last year.
Speaker 1: He'll be back. And then you signed Josh Sweat, you
Speaker 1: draft Will Johnson. Baron Browning was a guy you added
Speaker 1: mid season and you kept. So I just look at
Speaker 1: Nolan as part of an entire influx of talent, and
Speaker 1: I think he's in a good situation to succeed.
Speaker 3: And for those that are listening and not watching this
Speaker 3: show right now, we've got to get a bigger hat
Speaker 3: for Walter Nolan. That's the first takeaway. The second takeaway
Speaker 3: is that I don't know if you're allowed in the
Speaker 3: building in Arizona. If you don't have a red tie on,
Speaker 3: Like God forbid somebody wore like a purple tie in
Speaker 3: that room. I mean they just send him. You just
Speaker 3: send him right home, like you do not come in
Speaker 3: this draft room unless you have a red tie on.
Speaker 3: But I do like to fit.
Speaker 2: I do.
Speaker 1: I do love it, and I like I want the Cardinals.
Speaker 1: I like the teams that have been kind of ignored
Speaker 1: lately nationally, Jaguars, Cardinals. I like it when they kind
Speaker 1: of pop back up as national teams. I think the
Speaker 1: Cardinals could be good enough to do that. Let's wrap
Speaker 1: this up. Your your last favorite fit.
Speaker 3: Noh I mentioned the purple tie. It would be welcome
Speaker 3: in the Ravens draft room. And this is one of
Speaker 3: those ones we've talked about it. I feel like for
Speaker 3: months Malachi Starks just made so much sense for them.
Speaker 3: It just it frees up Hamilton to be able to
Speaker 3: play closer to the line of scrimmage. You get someone
Speaker 3: who can plays that high safety, who's got tremendous range.
Speaker 3: The intelligence and the communication is off the charts. When
Speaker 3: you talk to the folks at Georgia, it just look
Speaker 3: he's I'm never gonna compare anybody to Ed Reid. I
Speaker 3: was there with Ed Reid. He's in the conversations, one
Speaker 3: of the best safeties that ever walked the planet. But
Speaker 3: just some of the characteristics, the body type, the fluidity,
Speaker 3: the intelligence, the communication, the leadership, Like he does have
Speaker 3: a lot of those those things going in his favor.
Speaker 3: So it just felt very Ravens like. And they had
Speaker 3: overall had a really good draft.
Speaker 1: Yeah, in general, your favorite fits are just the teams
Speaker 1: that did what you would have done, you know, that
Speaker 1: did what you.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, that's what I always I always laugh at that,
Speaker 3: by the way, and it's I don't thankfully have to
Speaker 3: do draft grades, but it is. And people will go like,
Speaker 3: you're just saying that. He's like to like, well, yeah,
Speaker 3: that's why. That's how it works. Like you just kind
Speaker 3: of go like, this is the players I like, and
Speaker 3: whatever teams take them, I'm gonna praise those teams for
Speaker 3: taking the players I like. That's the whole this is
Speaker 3: the whole cycle of how this whole thing works.
Speaker 2: It makes a lot of sense. We are going to
Speaker 2: take a quick break.
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Speaker 1: All right, we are back on forties in free agents,
Speaker 1: and I'm trying to recover from the break where DJ
Speaker 1: said he wanted to read the promo because he would
Speaker 1: be better at it than me.
Speaker 2: I mean, what's the.
Speaker 1: Scouting rid, I don't have the bass, I don't have
Speaker 1: the timber. What are you, James Earl Jones over there?
Speaker 1: What's going on?
Speaker 3: It's not about me being good at it, Greg, And
Speaker 3: I'll just leave it at that.
Speaker 1: You know, next segment on the clock is going to
Speaker 1: be quarterbacks who had a good draft, and I don't
Speaker 1: mean quarterback that were drafted, but just kind of some
Speaker 1: quarterbacks who watched this draft. And we're probably at home
Speaker 1: and the happiest, and there's an obvious first answer.
Speaker 2: I'm going to see if you'll get to.
Speaker 3: It, I'm gonna go in New England. I love the
Speaker 3: Patriots draft, and it wasn't just offensive. They had some
Speaker 3: good defensive pieces they added as well. But when you
Speaker 3: look at Drake May, how stoked are you when you're
Speaker 3: going to get a back in Trayvon Henderson, Who's someone
Speaker 3: I cannot only throw the ball to and give me
Speaker 3: some easy completions. He's the best pass protecting back maybe
Speaker 3: in the last decade. So I'm going to get a
Speaker 3: better protection. So that's that's a huge win. We've upgraded
Speaker 3: the left tackle. People can argue about Will Campbell and
Speaker 3: debate him within this class, there is no argument that
Speaker 3: he's a much better option than what they were playing
Speaker 3: with last year. So you've upgraded a left tackle. Jared
Speaker 3: Wilson one of the most athletic centers, in fact, the
Speaker 3: most athletics center in this draft class. You bring him in,
Speaker 3: I think he's got a chance to be a long
Speaker 3: term starter. And then Kyle Williams someone that I think
Speaker 3: we both had it Infinity four. Greg, I know you
Speaker 3: brought him up in the past. I love his ability
Speaker 3: to win. He can win at the line of scrimmage,
Speaker 3: he can separate at the top of routes. I think
Speaker 3: he was fifty seven ish, fifty three ish, somewhere around
Speaker 3: that on my list. So they got tremendous value there
Speaker 3: as well. So for my money, Drake May was the
Speaker 3: big winner of the week.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't have to make a big board,
Speaker 1: but he would be in my top twenty five. I
Speaker 1: didn't see what was wrong with him. You know who
Speaker 1: reminded me a little. I saw this comp and then
Speaker 1: it stuck Greg Jennings. I think he could have a
Speaker 1: Greg Jennings, A.
Speaker 3: Nice kind of runs up on his toes like Greg Jennings.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I can do a little bit of everything.
Speaker 1: Sneak up on you. I love me some Kyle Williams,
Speaker 1: and look, Drake May was my favorite player in last
Speaker 1: year's because the Patriots maybe they're watching forties and free
Speaker 1: agents and just trying to make me happy. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go with JJ McCarthy. This was for a few reasons.
Speaker 1: They focused so steadfastly all off season on their offensive line.
Speaker 1: They get the center and the guard from the Colts,
Speaker 1: of course, and then in the draft you get Landon Jackson,
Speaker 1: who to me was maybe the best last Donovan Jackson.
Speaker 2: Brought all season long. I keep getting the wrong Jackson.
Speaker 1: Donovan Jackson probably the best last starting offensive lineman that
Speaker 1: you felt good about and it was perfect. He fell
Speaker 1: to them at twenty four, and they really attacked that position.
Speaker 2: They've improved.
Speaker 1: You add a wide receiver in the second round, a
Speaker 1: little bit of a their third round rather after catchability.
Speaker 1: But I also thought the trade for Sam Howell DJ
Speaker 1: and let me know what you think about this was
Speaker 1: perfect for JJ McCarthy. It's like, Okay, here's a guy
Speaker 1: who's not really going to challenge you at all. We
Speaker 1: fully believe in you cut to this week, but he's
Speaker 1: already out there throwing passes to Jordan Addison. JJ McCarthy
Speaker 1: is healthy, and I just feel like they've spent this
Speaker 1: offseason quietly supporting all the pieces around him.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean they revamped the interior, that offensive line
Speaker 3: and the tackles. When they get Darsaw back healthy, guy,
Speaker 3: he's a great player, So they're entire front five, I
Speaker 3: think you've got a chance to have one of the
Speaker 3: best offensive lines in the league. So I like what
Speaker 3: they did for JJ McCarthy. I'm with you on that.
Speaker 3: I support that. I'll go to Seattle and Sam Darnold,
Speaker 3: their new quarterback, having a nice draft. When you think
Speaker 3: about the pieces they had. Let's start Gray's Abel. I
Speaker 3: think one of the most consistent players in this draft,
Speaker 3: someone who you talk about acing the process. The tape
Speaker 3: was great at North Dakota State, he dominates the Senior Bowl,
Speaker 3: has a really good combine. The interviews everybody said were outstanding.
Speaker 3: They're excellent. So you get a plug and play guy
Speaker 3: who has legit five position flexibility, so as you have
Speaker 3: some injuries that are coming your way during the season,
Speaker 3: he's going to help you out with that versatility. So
Speaker 3: I like that pick. And then you look at a
Speaker 3: couple other pieces they got. Tory Horton to me, was
Speaker 3: a tremendous value out of Colorado State. He would have
Speaker 3: gone much higher. There was some injury stuff there that
Speaker 3: kind of pushed him down the board a little bit.
Speaker 3: But I think he's a perfect compliment to what they
Speaker 3: have in Cooper Cup and jsn someone who can play
Speaker 3: outside and can get vertical and make some plays down
Speaker 3: the field. And then Elijah Royo, to me, this is
Speaker 3: one of those funny things that happens during the draft.
Speaker 3: As you start hearing, well, you know, no might get traded,
Speaker 3: They're gonna move on from him. And then the guy
Speaker 3: that I compared as a younger better version of Noah
Speaker 3: Fan is the guy that they picked. So you get
Speaker 3: somebody again that can really run and can get some
Speaker 3: big plays. They're gonna be You know, this would be
Speaker 3: an interesting assignment for you, Greg is to go through
Speaker 3: and try and find out which teams are inside out
Speaker 3: teams in the NFL, Like who who are the teams
Speaker 3: that are really built slot receivers, tight ends, backs that
Speaker 3: can really just win in the middle of the field.
Speaker 3: The Seahawks have really really good group for Sam Donald
Speaker 3: working in the middle.
Speaker 1: It's interesting because when I think of Sam Donald though,
Speaker 1: like probably his weakness it's not over the middle of
Speaker 1: the field, but it's probably the intermediate level as a
Speaker 1: pro hasn't like been where he's won. He's one deep.
Speaker 1: But I'm with you, they got extremely good athletes. Of course,
Speaker 1: Jalen Milroe might be popping in there. I'm hoping for
Speaker 1: some Taysom Hill like packets. That would be a lot
Speaker 1: of fun. I got to go to Las Vegas and
Speaker 1: talk about my guy, Gino Smith. Not only did they
Speaker 1: you know, not draft a quarterback early, which they were
Speaker 1: looked at as possible Shuar Sanders team, and that didn't happen.
Speaker 1: But they take five of their first six picks on offense.
Speaker 1: You start with Ashton Genty, who's going to be able
Speaker 1: to keep them ahead of the sticks like that, that'll
Speaker 1: be Gino Smith's best friend. And then they take your guy,
Speaker 1: Jack Besh in the second round. I love Jack Besh,
Speaker 1: your favorite player in the draft. So a guy who
Speaker 1: they can really trust. And maybe you're not incredibly explosive
Speaker 1: at wide receiver, but you have an explosive tight end,
Speaker 1: you have an explosive running back, and you have some
Speaker 1: reliable threats hopefully DJ and Jack Besh and Jacoby Myers
Speaker 1: who's still there.
Speaker 2: So I like that.
Speaker 1: And they took a couple flyers on some tackles in
Speaker 1: the third round as well, which I notice a lot
Speaker 1: of the smart teams took took multiple flyers on tackles
Speaker 1: late in this draft because it's just so hard to
Speaker 1: take offensive linemen to find them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's hard, man. And I was talking to Bucky,
Speaker 3: I think we might have bound path the draft, but
Speaker 3: we were talking about Genty and was like, what is
Speaker 3: what's his role going to be? And he's like, man,
Speaker 3: they're gonna give him like twenty carries a game and
Speaker 3: I'm like, well, that's like halftime at Boise. So he's
Speaker 3: going to feel like that's a walk in the park.
Speaker 3: You feel like, where's my workload going here? I'm going
Speaker 3: to go to Houston and c J. Stroud as another
Speaker 3: kind of sneaky winner from the week. They went to
Speaker 3: Iowa State and got him a pair of receivers. We
Speaker 3: talked a lot about these guys in the run up
Speaker 3: to the draft, but Higgins, to me, Jaydan Higgins was
Speaker 3: one who reminded me of Nico Collins. Like a big,
Speaker 3: kind of a power for power forward body, but someone
Speaker 3: who can run small man routes because of his quickness,
Speaker 3: ability to get in and out of breaks, can track
Speaker 3: the ball really well. Got a ton of penalties drawn
Speaker 3: on him, a lot of defensive pass interference penalties that
Speaker 3: would have inflated his stats if he could throw those
Speaker 3: yards in there. But so you get him as a
Speaker 3: field stretcher. And then with Tank Dell's injury, you get
Speaker 3: Nol his teammate, so Jalen Nole, who can win in
Speaker 3: the slot with speed and with strength. He's got a
Speaker 3: lot of power to him. So like think of a
Speaker 3: stronger version of Tank Dell. Maybe not quite that top speed,
Speaker 3: but I think he'll be able to slide into that role.
Speaker 3: So I like those two fits. You go get Woody
Speaker 3: Marks out of us, who's one of the best pass
Speaker 3: catching backs in this draft. So that's gonna be a
Speaker 3: nice checkdown option for him to fit into that running
Speaker 3: back room. And then look Erstree. I wasn't quite as
Speaker 3: high on the big tackle from Minnesota, but again, you know,
Speaker 3: they needed to address that offensive line. That's a little
Speaker 3: bit of a boom bus pick for me, but at
Speaker 3: least they took their shot there. That's the only thing
Speaker 3: about this Texans team I know they you know, they
Speaker 3: wanted to move on from Tunsoul and they wanted to
Speaker 3: kind of remake that room. I'm not I need to
Speaker 3: see it. I want to see how this offensive line
Speaker 3: comes together. But when you look at the skill position
Speaker 3: talent that CJ. Stroud has, that's gonna be fun.
Speaker 2: It's so deep.
Speaker 1: It's a team that's built too with stand in injury
Speaker 1: or two if they haven't. And the thing I liked
Speaker 1: about Higgins and Noel like they complimented each other very
Speaker 1: well in college, Like two very different skill sets, they
Speaker 1: can compliment each other very well with the Texans. All right,
Speaker 1: we mentioned some rookies, you know, I mentioned Mason Taylor
Speaker 1: might be a guy who has a big role right away,
Speaker 1: But I was trying to think of like some players
Speaker 1: we just bounced back and forth with a couple just
Speaker 1: that are gonna have to matter right away, and the
Speaker 1: first one that popped to my mind was Kenneth Grant.
Speaker 1: They were taking a position of need, and I mean,
Speaker 1: they had no one at this position, and I don't
Speaker 1: think it was a reach because I think Kenneth Grant
Speaker 1: was a good prospect and has a lot of upside.
Speaker 1: But he is a guy who I think is going
Speaker 1: to have to play right away for the Dolphins a
Speaker 1: significant role. And whether he can step into the NFL
Speaker 1: right away and matter, I think it's going to make
Speaker 1: a big difference for their defensive season. I don't know
Speaker 1: if you saw him more of a developmental guy or
Speaker 1: whether he'll be able to go there and contribute right
Speaker 1: off the bat.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I had him in the twenties, I believe. I
Speaker 3: want to I want to pull that up. Kenneth Grant
Speaker 3: was my thirty first player that was one talking to
Speaker 3: people around the league when they were like, what surprised you.
Speaker 3: Him going that high was a little bit of a
Speaker 3: surprise around the league. So I do think there is
Speaker 3: a little bit of development there, but the you know,
Speaker 3: the raw tools to upside the size. You can see why,
Speaker 3: you know, Miami was excited about him. I look at guys,
Speaker 3: you need to step in right away and I'll go
Speaker 3: stay on the defensive line. I'll go Derek Harmon going
Speaker 3: to the Pittsburgh Steelers. He's a good football player, someone
Speaker 3: who kind of lives on the other side of the
Speaker 3: line of scrimmage. But we had a chance to have
Speaker 3: Mike Tomlin on the on the broadcast on Day three,
Speaker 3: and it kind of almost caught me off guard because
Speaker 3: of how quick his answer was. But I asked him,
Speaker 3: I said, look, I don't think I said the two
Speaker 3: ninety nine number, but the Ravens ran the ball down
Speaker 3: their throats in that playoff game. And I said, you know,
Speaker 3: you've kind of you look at this draft and they
Speaker 3: got a lot of big bodies, edgesetters, run stuffers. And
Speaker 3: I said, how quick after that game before you turned
Speaker 3: your attention to try and rebuild this front or fortify
Speaker 3: this front so that something like this doesn't ever happen again,
Speaker 3: and he just looked right in the camera and said
Speaker 3: before I got in the shower, and then he did
Speaker 3: not say another word. And Okay, all right, yep, I
Speaker 3: think that was That's why you go out and get
Speaker 3: him and y A. Black and Jack Sawyer like big
Speaker 3: point of attack guys. You know that was kind of funny.
Speaker 3: But when you look at Pittsburgh now, look at their
Speaker 3: front seven and the depth that they have, not just
Speaker 3: the starters like they're backup outside linebackers are going to
Speaker 3: be Jack Sawyer and herbig on the other side. Those
Speaker 3: are good players. But you've got high Smith and then
Speaker 3: you've got TJ. Watt, Like they've got four guys there.
Speaker 3: They've got depth at linebacker now quarterback. We'll see how
Speaker 3: that all comes together. But that defense has a chance
Speaker 3: to be really, really deep and really really talented.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they they're front seven on paper, or certainly their
Speaker 1: defensive line.
Speaker 3: Peyton Wilson's a good player, like.
Speaker 1: The absolute best in the league. That's why you have
Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin on it. I know you guys do every
Speaker 1: day three like he always was great. I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: with a guy and I've made this opinion after watching
Speaker 1: some of the press conferences, reading some of the local coverage,
Speaker 1: and its Demetrius Knight Junior for the Bengals, who was
Speaker 1: a bit of a surprise second round pick for them,
Speaker 1: and they expect them to start point blank.
Speaker 2: They've made it better.
Speaker 3: It's twenty five years old.
Speaker 1: Right, get I get it, But he wasn't a guy
Speaker 1: who necessarily was expected to go that early. They still
Speaker 1: have Jermaine Pratt on the roster. He is not expected
Speaker 1: to be on the roster, so he is not long
Speaker 1: for that team. And Night Junior, who kind of profiles
Speaker 1: as a similar type of player, I think the Jermaine
Speaker 1: Pratt is going to enter the league. I mean starting
Speaker 1: for a team that wants to compete for the Super
Speaker 1: Bowl at maybe the toughest position other than quarterback to
Speaker 1: a just right away. So I think that's a risky pick.
Speaker 1: I know they love him as a person, as a leader,
Speaker 1: his story, it's amazing, but he's going to be under
Speaker 1: pressure to play and play a lot and then I'll
Speaker 1: just throw a couple of running backs at you.
Speaker 3: Go ahead, Well, let me just pig you back on
Speaker 3: that real quick. One thing. I didn't get a chance
Speaker 3: to say this when he got picked. But one of
Speaker 3: the things I loved about him, it's like an old
Speaker 3: thing that I've always watched with players. I'm always curious
Speaker 3: to see what happens after turnovers with defensive players. Sounds weird,
Speaker 3: but there's always been a little connection there with great players.
Speaker 3: Like great players, when they get the ball in their
Speaker 3: hands to a they score, like that's just that's one thing.
Speaker 3: And then if a teammate gets it, you watch the
Speaker 3: effort with which they block to try and make plays.
Speaker 3: And there was a play you had two pancakes on
Speaker 3: a pick, like his teammate makes the interception, he goes
Speaker 3: and hunts up two different guys. It just shows like
Speaker 3: kind of a there's like a dog like want to
Speaker 3: thing there when you watch guys after turnovers. So the
Speaker 3: wiring with him is legit, Like he's absolutely wired the
Speaker 3: right way. He's a good player, he's the coverage thing
Speaker 3: is going to be a little bit of the thing
Speaker 3: he's got to work on. That showed up at the
Speaker 3: Senior Bowl.
Speaker 1: Yeah, quietly the Bengals draft in general, because you could
Speaker 1: talk about their their third round guard Dylan Fairchild, their
Speaker 1: do it their first round pick. Among good teams they
Speaker 1: kind of need the most out of this rookie class.
Speaker 1: All three of those guys kind of have slots where
Speaker 1: you want them to come in and contribute quite a
Speaker 1: bit right away. So we'll see if that happens. And
Speaker 1: then yeah, I mentioned the running back R. J. Harvey
Speaker 1: for the Broncos, like he's the huge fantasy football winner,
Speaker 1: Like there's a wide open path to a big role there.
Speaker 2: And then Quid John let's go, but like more like
Speaker 2: do you think it could be more?
Speaker 1: Because you watch the more than I do, and he's
Speaker 1: an exciting player. Do you think like no one ever
Speaker 1: wanted to give Sprouls twenty touches the game, do you
Speaker 1: think Carvey could get that?
Speaker 3: I don't think you want him to touch it that
Speaker 3: many quite that many times. But I think the Bucky
Speaker 3: Irving a faster Bucky Irving, you know, with how he
Speaker 3: was utilized last year, especially coming down the home stretch,
Speaker 3: I think that's a pretty good Yeah, that's a pretty
Speaker 3: good way to use him. But the pass game stuff
Speaker 3: like I'm just going to see him I already know
Speaker 3: doing the charger games. I'm going to see him catch
Speaker 3: about fifteen to twenty of those angle routes getting ready
Speaker 3: for those games. Just Sean Payton's just going to have
Speaker 3: a field day with that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And then I mentioned Quinnchot Junkins going to the Browns.
Speaker 1: They did take Dylan Sampson, who I liked a lot
Speaker 1: in the fourth round too, So maybe not all Judkins
Speaker 1: all the time, but I think it's going to be
Speaker 1: a lot of quinnch On Junkins And unfortunately, probably the
Speaker 1: end of Nick Chubb's running Cleveland, some some buzz that
Speaker 1: he might end up going to the Chicago Bears. Let's
Speaker 1: talk just quickly if any spots that weren't filled stand
Speaker 1: out to you. You get to the end of the draft,
Speaker 1: you can't get everything done. Anything stand out just.
Speaker 3: A Niners O line. I'm just you know, they went
Speaker 3: all defense, heavy defense, which kind of surprised me a
Speaker 3: little bit, just because you're getting ready to pay party.
Speaker 3: I thought, maybe try and you know, double down and
Speaker 3: invest in there. Like Pooney's a really good young player.
Speaker 3: I think he's got a chance to be a perennial
Speaker 3: pro bowler. They got a real good one there. It's
Speaker 3: just how much longer is Trent Williams going to play
Speaker 3: and trying to fill some of those other spots and
Speaker 3: provide some more depth up front. I just you know,
Speaker 3: I thought they could have upgraded the right tackle position,
Speaker 3: but it just didn't. You know, the draft didn't really
Speaker 3: fall that way, so they adjusted, they pivoted. But I
Speaker 3: think going into next offseason free agency in the draft,
Speaker 3: which again what a time to have a great show
Speaker 3: that combines both things, we'll be focusing on the forty
Speaker 3: nine ers trying to get better up front.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Here's the thing though.
Speaker 1: Every year I do this exercise, you know, the projected
Speaker 1: Starter series where I look at the team, and every
Speaker 1: year I'm like, man, are the forty nine ers? Like
Speaker 1: is their offensive line talented enough? Isn't good enough? And
Speaker 1: then at the end of the year, and I know
Speaker 1: last year wasn't their best year, but at the end
Speaker 1: of the year their first than all the yards per
Speaker 1: attempt and all the metrics, and they just seem to
Speaker 1: find a way at that position and cornerback where they
Speaker 1: just coach the heck out of it. And so I
Speaker 1: always I always air on the side of Kyle Shananne'll
Speaker 1: figure it out.
Speaker 2: I don't air that.
Speaker 1: Way when it comes to the Cowboys and their skill
Speaker 1: position weapons, and I love their draft, but they didn't
Speaker 1: take a wide receiver. What do you think about gold
Speaker 1: and Matthew Golden being on the board and they go
Speaker 1: with Tyler Booker there because they could They could have
Speaker 1: done it in the other spots, but especially right there.
Speaker 1: I was a little surprised because they are very thin there.
Speaker 1: There's some talk maybe Amari Cooper comes back to the Cowboys.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just you know, i'd heard early on the process,
Speaker 3: and we talked about it on a bunch of our shows.
Speaker 3: They were kind of dialed it on interior offensive lineman,
Speaker 3: and then it was if Tetoroa McMillan was there. They
Speaker 3: liked him, so it was going to come down to that.
Speaker 3: So I had them taking I think I'm taking Gray's
Speaker 3: abel in one of them. You know, there was I
Speaker 3: knew they would if they were going to take an
Speaker 3: interior lineman. They prefer to trade back. But what looks
Speaker 3: like what happened is McMillan's gone. He goes to Carolina
Speaker 3: and they couldn't get out, so you're stuck and you
Speaker 3: just make the pick. And then the other thing I
Speaker 3: was told, which makes a lot of sense. I mean,
Speaker 3: this organization values guards. I mean, this is the home
Speaker 3: of Larry Allen, this is the home of Zach Martin. Like,
Speaker 3: they put a premium on that, and they think if
Speaker 3: they're really good with that interior that unlocks the run game,
Speaker 3: that's gonna be crucial in terms of giving a nice
Speaker 3: deep pocket to the quarterback. So, you know, compared to
Speaker 3: some other organizations like the Saints that we always talked
Speaker 3: about with Sean Payton, were an interior offensive line, you know, factory,
Speaker 3: and they believed in investing in that. I think the
Speaker 3: Cowboys would fall in that same vein. But I am
Speaker 3: with you, I am concerned about where else you're gonna
Speaker 3: throw the football.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Dak Prescott has not been on the list of
Speaker 1: quarterbacks that are getting a lot of help in the offseason,
Speaker 1: and he's coming off another major injury that worries me.
Speaker 1: Another position that stuck out to me was just the
Speaker 1: Dolphin secondary, partly because Jalen Ramsey didn't get traded.
Speaker 2: But then after.
Speaker 1: The draft, and I know you've been in a little
Speaker 1: bit of a bunker, Chris Greer is talking their general
Speaker 1: manager and he said, well, we'll still handle that at
Speaker 1: the appropriate time. Jalen Ramsey did not make it sound
Speaker 1: like he is going to be on that roster. And
Speaker 1: then if you look at the details, they can save
Speaker 1: a ton of money against the cap if he's traded
Speaker 1: after June first, whereas they would have lost a bunch
Speaker 1: of money against the cap traded before. And suddenly I realized, oh,
Speaker 1: I shouldn't have expected him to get traded this weekend,
Speaker 1: so he's not expected to be there. And then if
Speaker 1: you look who's there at cornerback for them, their top
Speaker 1: three cornerbacks DJ cater Kohu, probably a slock guy, Storm Duck,
Speaker 1: great name, and then Cam Smith and Already Burns. They'll
Speaker 1: probably bring in some veterans. But man, that is a
Speaker 1: position group that I think Josh Allen, for instance, is
Speaker 1: going to look at and think like we can target
Speaker 1: that position group.
Speaker 3: I want to say Storm Duck at one point time
Speaker 3: might have gone to Apple, Aachian state. That name sounds
Speaker 3: very familiar. I have to double check my work on
Speaker 3: that one.
Speaker 1: But he looked good and trading camp and look good
Speaker 1: in the preseason last year, had some injuries.
Speaker 2: Storm Duck was I will big.
Speaker 3: Sense, I will remind you, and I'm not saying this
Speaker 3: because this would petition has to get more episodes of
Speaker 3: this limited series run that we're on right now. But
Speaker 3: we're not done with the acquiring season. You know, there's
Speaker 3: there's trades you can make going forward. There's guys still
Speaker 3: out there on the street. I think last year the Chargers,
Speaker 3: for example, it was a trade for Elijah Moulten, who
Speaker 3: ended up being a good player for them. They think
Speaker 3: they traded a six round pick. But Pree was hanging
Speaker 3: out there. They brought him in, played a nice role.
Speaker 3: There's still some guys out there. I just saw Bobby
Speaker 3: Trees just got signed, you know, So where'd he go?
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh? Maybe he is with the Steeler Woods.
Speaker 1: I giving Alan Robinson on the Steelers last year vibes,
Speaker 1: but I hope not because one of my one of
Speaker 1: my favorite players of the last decade, like Robert Woods,
Speaker 1: I love I love me some Robert Woods, one of
Speaker 1: my kid's favorite players as well. But you're right, there's
Speaker 1: about fifteen guys left on my top one oh one list.
Speaker 2: So people got to go to work. In terms of
Speaker 2: my go check it out, Go check out that list.
Speaker 3: NFL dot com slash Greg knows best I believe.
Speaker 1: Is Rossell Douglas I believe was like seventy six on that,
Speaker 1: which I thought was actually conservative.
Speaker 2: But he's out there. I think Miami has talked to
Speaker 2: him a little bit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we are wrapping up here on forties and free agents.
Speaker 2: But before we.
Speaker 1: Do that, we got we gotta put you on the clock.
Speaker 1: This is this is the segment that's been a lot
Speaker 1: of buzz all over the shot.
Speaker 3: Adam Seine has been it is his favorite segment. Let's
Speaker 3: let's give Adam what he wants.
Speaker 1: Here, all right, five minutes on the clock. Some questions
Speaker 1: for DJ before we get out of here. During the draft, Oh,
Speaker 1: I just love those chimes. How many guys were taken
Speaker 1: while you were on the set where you kind of
Speaker 1: like look through your notes and you just hope they
Speaker 1: didn't go to you asking for anything.
Speaker 3: So I think all total there was four or five,
Speaker 3: not more than that, four or five, and that's usually
Speaker 3: about normal, about four or five guys who got picked,
Speaker 3: None within the first five six rounds. I think they
Speaker 3: were all in the seventh rounds, just some random flyers,
Speaker 3: including mister irrelevant. But I'm always straight up honest on that,
Speaker 3: there's no there's no upside in trying to fake your
Speaker 3: way through an evaluation like I'm never going to do that.
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna be like, look, here's if we like
Speaker 3: we didn't have a bio on the guy who got
Speaker 3: picked last, like that was out of left field, but
Speaker 3: most of them you'd have a bio and and you
Speaker 3: know we're not going pick to pick at that point
Speaker 3: time in the draft either. But if they come to
Speaker 3: me on it, I'd be like, look, this is a
Speaker 3: guy who's six' one two o, five he ran four four,
Speaker 3: five he caught sixty five. Balls i'll be honest you
Speaker 3: THAT i did not watch. Him so that's HOW i handle.
Speaker 1: It ALTHOUGH i wouldn't have known on mister, elevant mister,
Speaker 1: irrelevant you you had some information WHEN i was, watching
Speaker 1: and your entire top one fifty got, drafted which is.
Speaker 1: Crazy so along those, lines when your top one fifty came,
Speaker 1: OUT i was actually talking to someone else and their
Speaker 1: immediate reaction to your top one fifty was who Is
Speaker 1: KeAndre Lambert? Smith and who you had around one?
Speaker 2: Five a wide.
Speaker 1: Receiver then five days, later The, chargers the team you work,
Speaker 1: for took him in the fifth. Round are they just
Speaker 1: drafting off your? List or are you now the SHADOW
Speaker 1: gm of The.
Speaker 3: Chargers, no that's a coincidence in a big. Way that
Speaker 3: is a. Coincidence there was one player who was DRAFTED
Speaker 3: i will remain nameless THAT i had a chance to
Speaker 3: talk to a coach who had not seen this player
Speaker 3: late AND i talked to him about a week ago
Speaker 3: AND i, said you gotta watch this. Guy and then
Speaker 3: lo and, behold they and not because of WHAT i,
Speaker 3: said but the other people in the building liked. Him
Speaker 3: but then this coach watched, Him he's LIKE i do
Speaker 3: kind of like, him and then they picked him in
Speaker 3: the Second.
Speaker 2: WOW i want to find that after the. Show i'm
Speaker 2: gonna find.
Speaker 1: Out speaking of The, chargers just Hamp omari And hampton
Speaker 1: Over Matthew golden and over trading. Down it was reported
Speaker 1: they had an offer from The eagles to trade. Down
Speaker 1: i'm just curious what your thoughts were on.
Speaker 3: THAT i would have liked to. TRADE i, mean, LOOK
Speaker 3: i Love, hampton and the funny thing Is hampton was
Speaker 3: my thirteenth. Player goal was my fourteenth, player SO i
Speaker 3: would have been just fine either. WAY i, mean they're
Speaker 3: both really really good. Players BUT i thought if they
Speaker 3: could have pulled. Off the TRADE i believe was what The.
Speaker 3: EAGLES i thought they were in a pretty good shot
Speaker 3: where your fallback, is, man we maybe we Get, hampton probably,
Speaker 3: gone but if we don't get, him we've Got Trayvon,
Speaker 3: henderson WHO i love as well as an option, there
Speaker 3: and maybe that gives you an. Opportunity as you, KNOW
Speaker 3: i was a Big Mason taylor, fan SO i thought
Speaker 3: maybe that could have FREED jep to try and to
Speaker 3: pull that daily double off. There But i'm not Gonna
Speaker 3: i'm not gonna fault The chargers at. All they got.
Speaker 3: It they got my thirteenth player with a twenty second, pick.
Speaker 1: All, right two minutes left. Here you're you're always so
Speaker 1: nice in your draft. Coverage if you were A, gm
Speaker 1: which is The Draft, hall you'd least have wanted to.
Speaker 3: HAVE i was A, gm the least The draft halls
Speaker 3: favorite draft class.
Speaker 2: Got you gotta put someone out on Front street.
Speaker 3: HERE i, MEAN i didn't love The bengals. DRAFT i
Speaker 3: didn't love. IT i think they got some, good solid,
Speaker 3: players but it's just HOW i had them. STACKED i
Speaker 3: would have gone in a little bit different. Direction but,
Speaker 3: hey they've Got Joe burrow and they'll make it all.
Speaker 2: Work did you have a favorite one out?
Speaker 1: There and by the, way, yeah, Now Duke tobin's not
Speaker 1: going to return your calls for the next.
Speaker 3: Year duke does a great. JOB i Love.
Speaker 2: Duke do you have a favorite? Draft favorite draft? Hall?
Speaker 3: YEAH i Was New. England New england was my favorite draft.
Speaker 3: HALL i love what The patriots. Did, YEAH i was
Speaker 3: fired up for.
Speaker 1: Them are you aware that last week an article was
Speaker 1: written about this show that called, us quote THE Nfl
Speaker 1: draft tag team Champions and in the.
Speaker 2: Article this is a QUOTE.
Speaker 1: Dj it said THAT, I Greg rosenthal have a draft
Speaker 1: intellect that is through the roof your.
Speaker 3: THOUGHTS i didn't know you wrote under an alias that
Speaker 3: would be my. Thought that's.
Speaker 2: AMAZING i MEAN i had a few options to choose.
Speaker 2: FROM i mean very.
Speaker 3: Kind how long did it take you to write that?
Speaker 3: Thing by the, way it was very. Long.
Speaker 2: Yeah check Out Barret. SPORTS i loved.
Speaker 1: IT i want to compete next year at twenty twenty.
Speaker 1: Six hopefully we're doing this. Again who are some names
Speaker 1: you're excited about THAT i should check.
Speaker 3: Out for next? Year? Sure draft, Wise i'm always looking
Speaker 3: at the. Quarterbacks Leonora sellers At South. Carolina i'm excited
Speaker 3: to watch. Him Drew, ALLER i know of The year
Speaker 3: didn't finish up the way he wanted to in his final,
Speaker 3: game but he's, big, strong got a lot of ability,
Speaker 3: there So i'm curious to see. Him Caleb downs is
Speaker 3: going to be a lot of, fun the safety At Ohio,
Speaker 3: state big time.
Speaker 1: Player all, Right and then, finally did you enjoy this?
Speaker 1: Show and will we do it? Again you have five?
Speaker 3: SECONDS i did love, it AND i hope that it comes.
Speaker 2: Back oh look at D. J that's why he kills
Speaker 2: me all season and at the, TIME i.
Speaker 3: Think there's something. Here, Man i'm not even. Joking there
Speaker 3: are a lot of. People there are a lot of
Speaker 3: my friends inside the league that have really enjoyed. This
Speaker 3: they've gotten to know you through this, process and they've
Speaker 3: enjoyed the heck out of. It and Then i'm sure
Speaker 3: you know there's you got your legion of fans you,
Speaker 3: know worldwide that always have hated me because you've talked
Speaker 3: so poorly about me over the years on all your,
Speaker 3: shows AND i think they're, realizing, like, hey he's not.
Speaker 3: Terrible you, know he's not. Terrible, NOW i think that
Speaker 3: means we got. SOMETHING i think that means we really
Speaker 3: have something.
Speaker 2: To all those people inside the league where you've. Been
Speaker 2: let's get. Going i'm with.
Speaker 1: You this has been a ton of, fun forties and.
Speaker 1: Freedoms we will try to find a way to keep
Speaker 1: this thing. Going thanks for all that you. DO, dj and,
Speaker 1: yeah we'll see you next draft, season hopefully Before, yeah
Speaker 3: Yeah i'll come out that see, you, buddy