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Speaker 1: Welcome to forties and free agents. We have reached the

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Speaker 1: end of the draft road free agency. It's way back there.

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Speaker 1: Daniel Jeremiah is with us. And at the end of

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Speaker 1: every draft, they like send you a text. You probably

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Speaker 1: get a million of them just what an awesome job.

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Speaker 1: But I knew I would see you before we said

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Speaker 1: goodbye to you, so great job on the draft.

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Speaker 2: Congrats, I'm doing it well.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate you, buddy. And by the way, I can't

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Speaker 3: tell you the number of people that came up to

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Speaker 3: me and said how much they enjoyed your work on

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Speaker 3: this podcast. The reason I can't tell you that because

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Speaker 3: nobody did. But I'd like to think that they're out

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Speaker 3: there and I just haven't met them yet. So that's

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Speaker 3: what I'm holding on to.

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Speaker 1: I know they're out there. I've heard from them. Adam

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Speaker 1: Shines is one of them. We'll get to that later

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Speaker 1: in the show. Let's just start just some things, maybe

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Speaker 1: big picture that surprised you. Later in the show, we're

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Speaker 1: going to get to some great fits and what teams

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Speaker 1: were excited to watch and kind of how the free

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Speaker 1: agency portion of the offseason married up with this draft.

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Speaker 1: But just what big picture surprised you most when you

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean just the rumors day of that this

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Speaker 3: up with Cleveland. And it's like every year, Greg, I

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Speaker 3: could write a book on the rumors you hear within

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Speaker 3: twenty four hours of the draft, and they're all some

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Speaker 3: of the craziest things you've ever heard. And so it

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Speaker 3: electricity and energy to the entire process. I mean before

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Speaker 3: out there dancing with the band. It was just like,

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Speaker 3: the guy's got some electricity to him. He's got some

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Speaker 1: Yeah, when he was out there dancing to I'm every

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Speaker 1: Woman that I was like, does he know the Jaguars

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Speaker 1: are trading up for him? But by all accounts it

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Speaker 3: Would you have danced every woman?

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Speaker 3: No, I would not dance to every woman? Is that

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Speaker 2: No? Would you have traded up? I would love to

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Speaker 3: I Look, here's the interesting thing about this, and I've

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Speaker 3: said this on a couple of shows, but in talking

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Speaker 3: the fan side of it, I think there's a lot

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Speaker 3: feel like that the Browns did well in this and

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Speaker 3: the interesting side of it. I try and fall somewhere

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Speaker 3: You know, Travis Hunter is going to bring that. The

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Speaker 3: I get that we'll have to wait a few years

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Speaker 3: next year looks like. Greg, But I did find it

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Speaker 3: fascinating that the the fan reaction versus the inside of

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Speaker 1: Well, the people inside the league, they're living in their fears.

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Speaker 1: Isn't it your job? By the way, I noticed you

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Speaker 3: Be I would I would not have done it if

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Speaker 1: A feeling, yeah, And I get it. To me, that

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Speaker 1: I'm just a layman here and to me, the people

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Speaker 1: And if you believe that this prospect, Travis Hunter, to me,

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Speaker 1: then you do it. Then you stand by that evaluation.

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Speaker 1: And I like that Jacksonville has talked him up like that,

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Speaker 2: To you, the rest of the league disagrees.

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Speaker 1: I think they're going to look bad in the long run.

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Speaker 3: So I'll just I'll put it to you this way.

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Speaker 3: How you know how hard it is We're in a

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Speaker 3: That's a challenge. If you think about it, He's going

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Speaker 3: They don't think he's going to do that. They think

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Speaker 2: I get that, and I would agree with it.

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Speaker 1: But what if he's just the best receiver in the league,

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Speaker 3: But I thought of not necessarily a view, but I

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Speaker 2: You have to explain to your kid.

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Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, he only had five and a half sacks,

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Speaker 2: He's really impacting every day.

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Speaker 3: It was like, never on the ground. Let's talk about son,

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Speaker 3: let's talk about balance.

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Speaker 2: Uh yeah, I know.

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Speaker 1: He explain to my daughter. She's a huge ramster, And

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Speaker 1: I'm like, you got to trust me. Aaron Donald really

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Speaker 1: it all. What was another big surprise for you out

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Speaker 2: You can go anywhere.

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Speaker 3: And this is an example Greg of why teams try

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Speaker 3: a no brainer move for the Rams to pull that off.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that was shocking, and it's an underrated aspect of

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Speaker 1: pick of another team, it is very fun that year

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Speaker 1: to root against that.

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Speaker 3: Yes, that's a good point.

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Speaker 2: I remember at.

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Speaker 2: Like, it's a sneaky fun thing. So like gid you an.

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Speaker 3: Extra team, you get, you get two teams. It's your

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Speaker 2: It's a lot of fun.

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Speaker 1: And I think that was a trade that Terry Fontineau

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Speaker 2: Don't you get us going?

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Speaker 3: Well, it's be I mean, not that much more. I'll go.

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Speaker 3: I'll go Warren in the Colts. Tyler Warren to me,

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Speaker 1: I love that he was someone I wanted to see

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Speaker 2: I don't know what this team is gonna be. They

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Speaker 1: Chris Ballard has been there for I believe nine years,

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Speaker 3: Even if you would have had you know, Tyler Warren

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Speaker 3: I think these guys can go. We're talking about different places.

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Speaker 3: let's just let's just keep the train moving here at

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Speaker 2: See, this is why you have such a good mock draft.

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Speaker 2: It's unfair.

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Speaker 3: It's not. It's not. The hit rate is not high

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Speaker 1: I'm annoyed at what a smart looking organization the Jets

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Speaker 2: We'll see give me up.

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Speaker 3: By the way real quick before before you leave the Jets,

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Speaker 1: And what also informs me thinking about the Jets in general,

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Speaker 1: saying that Darren Mujie, their new GM is an important

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna go Jalen Walker going to the Falcons.

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Speaker 3: He can do a lot of different things than them creatively.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they weren't the only ones.

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Speaker 1: It completes an awesome offseason I think for making this

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Speaker 3: for Walter Nolan. That's the first takeaway. The second takeaway

438
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Speaker 3: is that I don't know if you're allowed in the

439
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Speaker 3: building in Arizona. If you don't have a red tie on,

440
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Speaker 3: Like God forbid somebody wore like a purple tie in

441
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Speaker 3: that room. I mean they just send him. You just

442
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Speaker 3: send him right home, like you do not come in

443
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Speaker 3: this draft room unless you have a red tie on.

444
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Speaker 3: But I do like to fit.

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Speaker 2: I do.

446
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Speaker 1: I do love it, and I like I want the Cardinals.

447
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Speaker 1: I like the teams that have been kind of ignored

448
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Speaker 1: lately nationally, Jaguars, Cardinals. I like it when they kind

449
00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:41,280
Speaker 1: of pop back up as national teams. I think the

450
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Speaker 1: Cardinals could be good enough to do that. Let's wrap

451
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Speaker 1: this up. Your your last favorite fit.

452
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Speaker 3: Noh I mentioned the purple tie. It would be welcome

453
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Speaker 3: in the Ravens draft room. And this is one of

454
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Speaker 3: those ones we've talked about it. I feel like for

455
00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:55,960
Speaker 3: months Malachi Starks just made so much sense for them.

456
00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:58,399
Speaker 3: It just it frees up Hamilton to be able to

457
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Speaker 3: play closer to the line of scrimmage. You get someone

458
00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:03,439
Speaker 3: who can plays that high safety, who's got tremendous range.

459
00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:07,040
Speaker 3: The intelligence and the communication is off the charts. When

460
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Speaker 3: you talk to the folks at Georgia, it just look

461
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Speaker 3: he's I'm never gonna compare anybody to Ed Reid. I

462
00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:15,600
Speaker 3: was there with Ed Reid. He's in the conversations, one

463
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Speaker 3: of the best safeties that ever walked the planet. But

464
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Speaker 3: just some of the characteristics, the body type, the fluidity,

465
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Speaker 3: the intelligence, the communication, the leadership, Like he does have

466
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Speaker 3: a lot of those those things going in his favor.

467
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Speaker 3: So it just felt very Ravens like. And they had

468
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Speaker 3: overall had a really good draft.

469
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Speaker 1: Yeah, in general, your favorite fits are just the teams

470
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Speaker 1: that did what you would have done, you know, that

471
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Speaker 1: did what you.

472
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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, that's what I always I always laugh at that,

473
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Speaker 3: by the way, and it's I don't thankfully have to

474
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Speaker 3: do draft grades, but it is. And people will go like,

475
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Speaker 3: you're just saying that. He's like to like, well, yeah,

476
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Speaker 3: that's why. That's how it works. Like you just kind

477
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Speaker 3: of go like, this is the players I like, and

478
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Speaker 3: whatever teams take them, I'm gonna praise those teams for

479
00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:55,920
Speaker 3: taking the players I like. That's the whole this is

480
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Speaker 3: the whole cycle of how this whole thing works.

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Speaker 2: It makes a lot of sense. We are going to

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Speaker 2: take a quick break.

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Speaker 1: All right, we are back on forties in free agents,

491
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Speaker 1: and I'm trying to recover from the break where DJ

492
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Speaker 1: said he wanted to read the promo because he would

493
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Speaker 1: be better at it than me.

494
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Speaker 2: I mean, what's the.

495
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Speaker 1: Scouting rid, I don't have the bass, I don't have

496
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Speaker 1: the timber. What are you, James Earl Jones over there?

497
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Speaker 1: What's going on?

498
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Speaker 3: It's not about me being good at it, Greg, And

499
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Speaker 3: I'll just leave it at that.

500
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Speaker 1: You know, next segment on the clock is going to

501
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Speaker 1: be quarterbacks who had a good draft, and I don't

502
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Speaker 1: mean quarterback that were drafted, but just kind of some

503
00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:07,520
Speaker 1: quarterbacks who watched this draft. And we're probably at home

504
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Speaker 1: and the happiest, and there's an obvious first answer.

505
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Speaker 2: I'm going to see if you'll get to.

506
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Speaker 3: It, I'm gonna go in New England. I love the

507
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Speaker 3: Patriots draft, and it wasn't just offensive. They had some

508
00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:22,479
Speaker 3: good defensive pieces they added as well. But when you

509
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Speaker 3: look at Drake May, how stoked are you when you're

510
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Speaker 3: going to get a back in Trayvon Henderson, Who's someone

511
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Speaker 3: I cannot only throw the ball to and give me

512
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Speaker 3: some easy completions. He's the best pass protecting back maybe

513
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Speaker 3: in the last decade. So I'm going to get a

514
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Speaker 3: better protection. So that's that's a huge win. We've upgraded

515
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Speaker 3: the left tackle. People can argue about Will Campbell and

516
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Speaker 3: debate him within this class, there is no argument that

517
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Speaker 3: he's a much better option than what they were playing

518
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Speaker 3: with last year. So you've upgraded a left tackle. Jared

519
00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:50,840
Speaker 3: Wilson one of the most athletic centers, in fact, the

520
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Speaker 3: most athletics center in this draft class. You bring him in,

521
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Speaker 3: I think he's got a chance to be a long

522
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Speaker 3: term starter. And then Kyle Williams someone that I think

523
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Speaker 3: we both had it Infinity four. Greg, I know you

524
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Speaker 3: brought him up in the past. I love his ability

525
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Speaker 3: to win. He can win at the line of scrimmage,

526
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Speaker 3: he can separate at the top of routes. I think

527
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Speaker 3: he was fifty seven ish, fifty three ish, somewhere around

528
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Speaker 3: that on my list. So they got tremendous value there

529
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Speaker 3: as well. So for my money, Drake May was the

530
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Speaker 3: big winner of the week.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't have to make a big board,

532
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Speaker 1: but he would be in my top twenty five. I

533
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Speaker 1: didn't see what was wrong with him. You know who

534
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Speaker 1: reminded me a little. I saw this comp and then

535
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Speaker 1: it stuck Greg Jennings. I think he could have a

536
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Speaker 1: Greg Jennings, A.

537
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Speaker 3: Nice kind of runs up on his toes like Greg Jennings.

538
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I can do a little bit of everything.

539
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Speaker 1: Sneak up on you. I love me some Kyle Williams,

540
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Speaker 1: and look, Drake May was my favorite player in last

541
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Speaker 1: year's because the Patriots maybe they're watching forties and free

542
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Speaker 1: agents and just trying to make me happy. I'm gonna

543
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Speaker 1: go with JJ McCarthy. This was for a few reasons.

544
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Speaker 1: They focused so steadfastly all off season on their offensive line.

545
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Speaker 1: They get the center and the guard from the Colts,

546
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Speaker 1: of course, and then in the draft you get Landon Jackson,

547
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Speaker 1: who to me was maybe the best last Donovan Jackson.

548
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Speaker 2: Brought all season long. I keep getting the wrong Jackson.

549
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Speaker 1: Donovan Jackson probably the best last starting offensive lineman that

550
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Speaker 1: you felt good about and it was perfect. He fell

551
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Speaker 1: to them at twenty four, and they really attacked that position.

552
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Speaker 2: They've improved.

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Speaker 1: You add a wide receiver in the second round, a

554
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Speaker 1: little bit of a their third round rather after catchability.

555
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Speaker 1: But I also thought the trade for Sam Howell DJ

556
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Speaker 1: and let me know what you think about this was

557
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Speaker 1: perfect for JJ McCarthy. It's like, Okay, here's a guy

558
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Speaker 1: who's not really going to challenge you at all. We

559
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Speaker 1: fully believe in you cut to this week, but he's

560
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Speaker 1: already out there throwing passes to Jordan Addison. JJ McCarthy

561
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Speaker 1: is healthy, and I just feel like they've spent this

562
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Speaker 1: offseason quietly supporting all the pieces around him.

563
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Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean they revamped the interior, that offensive line

564
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Speaker 3: and the tackles. When they get Darsaw back healthy, guy,

565
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Speaker 3: he's a great player, So they're entire front five, I

566
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Speaker 3: think you've got a chance to have one of the

567
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Speaker 3: best offensive lines in the league. So I like what

568
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Speaker 3: they did for JJ McCarthy. I'm with you on that.

569
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Speaker 3: I support that. I'll go to Seattle and Sam Darnold,

570
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:07,000
Speaker 3: their new quarterback, having a nice draft. When you think

571
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Speaker 3: about the pieces they had. Let's start Gray's Abel. I

572
00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:12,040
Speaker 3: think one of the most consistent players in this draft,

573
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Speaker 3: someone who you talk about acing the process. The tape

574
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Speaker 3: was great at North Dakota State, he dominates the Senior Bowl,

575
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Speaker 3: has a really good combine. The interviews everybody said were outstanding.

576
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Speaker 3: They're excellent. So you get a plug and play guy

577
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Speaker 3: who has legit five position flexibility, so as you have

578
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Speaker 3: some injuries that are coming your way during the season,

579
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Speaker 3: he's going to help you out with that versatility. So

580
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Speaker 3: I like that pick. And then you look at a

581
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Speaker 3: couple other pieces they got. Tory Horton to me, was

582
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Speaker 3: a tremendous value out of Colorado State. He would have

583
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Speaker 3: gone much higher. There was some injury stuff there that

584
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Speaker 3: kind of pushed him down the board a little bit.

585
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Speaker 3: But I think he's a perfect compliment to what they

586
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Speaker 3: have in Cooper Cup and jsn someone who can play

587
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Speaker 3: outside and can get vertical and make some plays down

588
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Speaker 3: the field. And then Elijah Royo, to me, this is

589
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Speaker 3: one of those funny things that happens during the draft.

590
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Speaker 3: As you start hearing, well, you know, no might get traded,

591
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Speaker 3: They're gonna move on from him. And then the guy

592
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Speaker 3: that I compared as a younger better version of Noah

593
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Speaker 3: Fan is the guy that they picked. So you get

594
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Speaker 3: somebody again that can really run and can get some

595
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Speaker 3: big plays. They're gonna be You know, this would be

596
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Speaker 3: an interesting assignment for you, Greg is to go through

597
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Speaker 3: and try and find out which teams are inside out

598
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Speaker 3: teams in the NFL, Like who who are the teams

599
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Speaker 3: that are really built slot receivers, tight ends, backs that

600
00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:26,840
Speaker 3: can really just win in the middle of the field.

601
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Speaker 3: The Seahawks have really really good group for Sam Donald

602
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Speaker 3: working in the middle.

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Speaker 1: It's interesting because when I think of Sam Donald though,

604
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Speaker 1: like probably his weakness it's not over the middle of

605
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Speaker 1: the field, but it's probably the intermediate level as a

606
00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:42,520
Speaker 1: pro hasn't like been where he's won. He's one deep.

607
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Speaker 1: But I'm with you, they got extremely good athletes. Of course,

608
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Speaker 1: Jalen Milroe might be popping in there. I'm hoping for

609
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Speaker 1: some Taysom Hill like packets. That would be a lot

610
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Speaker 1: of fun. I got to go to Las Vegas and

611
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Speaker 1: talk about my guy, Gino Smith. Not only did they

612
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Speaker 1: you know, not draft a quarterback early, which they were

613
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Speaker 1: looked at as possible Shuar Sanders team, and that didn't happen.

614
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Speaker 1: But they take five of their first six picks on offense.

615
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Speaker 1: You start with Ashton Genty, who's going to be able

616
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Speaker 1: to keep them ahead of the sticks like that, that'll

617
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Speaker 1: be Gino Smith's best friend. And then they take your guy,

618
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Speaker 1: Jack Besh in the second round. I love Jack Besh,

619
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Speaker 1: your favorite player in the draft. So a guy who

620
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Speaker 1: they can really trust. And maybe you're not incredibly explosive

621
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Speaker 1: at wide receiver, but you have an explosive tight end,

622
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Speaker 1: you have an explosive running back, and you have some

623
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Speaker 1: reliable threats hopefully DJ and Jack Besh and Jacoby Myers

624
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Speaker 1: who's still there.

625
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Speaker 2: So I like that.

626
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Speaker 1: And they took a couple flyers on some tackles in

627
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Speaker 1: the third round as well, which I notice a lot

628
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Speaker 1: of the smart teams took took multiple flyers on tackles

629
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Speaker 1: late in this draft because it's just so hard to

630
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Speaker 1: take offensive linemen to find them.

631
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's hard, man. And I was talking to Bucky,

632
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Speaker 3: I think we might have bound path the draft, but

633
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:54,199
Speaker 3: we were talking about Genty and was like, what is

634
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Speaker 3: what's his role going to be? And he's like, man,

635
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Speaker 3: they're gonna give him like twenty carries a game and

636
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Speaker 3: I'm like, well, that's like halftime at Boise. So he's

637
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 3: going to feel like that's a walk in the park.

638
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:04,679
Speaker 3: You feel like, where's my workload going here? I'm going

639
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 3: to go to Houston and c J. Stroud as another

640
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 3: kind of sneaky winner from the week. They went to

641
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:12,240
Speaker 3: Iowa State and got him a pair of receivers. We

642
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 3: talked a lot about these guys in the run up

643
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:16,920
Speaker 3: to the draft, but Higgins, to me, Jaydan Higgins was

644
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:20,439
Speaker 3: one who reminded me of Nico Collins. Like a big,

645
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:24,200
Speaker 3: kind of a power for power forward body, but someone

646
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 3: who can run small man routes because of his quickness,

647
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:28,920
Speaker 3: ability to get in and out of breaks, can track

648
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 3: the ball really well. Got a ton of penalties drawn

649
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,960
Speaker 3: on him, a lot of defensive pass interference penalties that

650
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 3: would have inflated his stats if he could throw those

651
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 3: yards in there. But so you get him as a

652
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 3: field stretcher. And then with Tank Dell's injury, you get

653
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:45,480
Speaker 3: Nol his teammate, so Jalen Nole, who can win in

654
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 3: the slot with speed and with strength. He's got a

655
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,159
Speaker 3: lot of power to him. So like think of a

656
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:54,439
Speaker 3: stronger version of Tank Dell. Maybe not quite that top speed,

657
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 3: but I think he'll be able to slide into that role.

658
00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:58,920
Speaker 3: So I like those two fits. You go get Woody

659
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 3: Marks out of us, who's one of the best pass

660
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 3: catching backs in this draft. So that's gonna be a

661
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:07,119
Speaker 3: nice checkdown option for him to fit into that running

662
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 3: back room. And then look Erstree. I wasn't quite as

663
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,639
Speaker 3: high on the big tackle from Minnesota, but again, you know,

664
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,400
Speaker 3: they needed to address that offensive line. That's a little

665
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 3: bit of a boom bus pick for me, but at

666
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:20,479
Speaker 3: least they took their shot there. That's the only thing

667
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 3: about this Texans team I know they you know, they

668
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,240
Speaker 3: wanted to move on from Tunsoul and they wanted to

669
00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:28,119
Speaker 3: kind of remake that room. I'm not I need to

670
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 3: see it. I want to see how this offensive line

671
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 3: comes together. But when you look at the skill position

672
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,120
Speaker 3: talent that CJ. Stroud has, that's gonna be fun.

673
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 2: It's so deep.

674
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:37,200
Speaker 1: It's a team that's built too with stand in injury

675
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 1: or two if they haven't. And the thing I liked

676
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 1: about Higgins and Noel like they complimented each other very

677
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 1: well in college, Like two very different skill sets, they

678
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 1: can compliment each other very well with the Texans. All right,

679
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:49,240
Speaker 1: we mentioned some rookies, you know, I mentioned Mason Taylor

680
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 1: might be a guy who has a big role right away,

681
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 1: But I was trying to think of like some players

682
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 1: we just bounced back and forth with a couple just

683
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 1: that are gonna have to matter right away, and the

684
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 1: first one that popped to my mind was Kenneth Grant.

685
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 1: They were taking a position of need, and I mean,

686
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 1: they had no one at this position, and I don't

687
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 1: think it was a reach because I think Kenneth Grant

688
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 1: was a good prospect and has a lot of upside.

689
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:16,960
Speaker 1: But he is a guy who I think is going

690
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 1: to have to play right away for the Dolphins a

691
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 1: significant role. And whether he can step into the NFL

692
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,640
Speaker 1: right away and matter, I think it's going to make

693
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 1: a big difference for their defensive season. I don't know

694
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 1: if you saw him more of a developmental guy or

695
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 1: whether he'll be able to go there and contribute right

696
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 1: off the bat.

697
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I had him in the twenties, I believe. I

698
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 3: want to I want to pull that up. Kenneth Grant

699
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:42,960
Speaker 3: was my thirty first player that was one talking to

700
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 3: people around the league when they were like, what surprised you.

701
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 3: Him going that high was a little bit of a

702
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,880
Speaker 3: surprise around the league. So I do think there is

703
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 3: a little bit of development there, but the you know,

704
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 3: the raw tools to upside the size. You can see why,

705
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 3: you know, Miami was excited about him. I look at guys,

706
00:29:58,000 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 3: you need to step in right away and I'll go

707
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 3: stay on the defensive line. I'll go Derek Harmon going

708
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 3: to the Pittsburgh Steelers. He's a good football player, someone

709
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 3: who kind of lives on the other side of the

710
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 3: line of scrimmage. But we had a chance to have

711
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 3: Mike Tomlin on the on the broadcast on Day three,

712
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:15,720
Speaker 3: and it kind of almost caught me off guard because

713
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 3: of how quick his answer was. But I asked him,

714
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:19,760
Speaker 3: I said, look, I don't think I said the two

715
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 3: ninety nine number, but the Ravens ran the ball down

716
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:26,239
Speaker 3: their throats in that playoff game. And I said, you know,

717
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:28,400
Speaker 3: you've kind of you look at this draft and they

718
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:32,479
Speaker 3: got a lot of big bodies, edgesetters, run stuffers. And

719
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 3: I said, how quick after that game before you turned

720
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:38,240
Speaker 3: your attention to try and rebuild this front or fortify

721
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 3: this front so that something like this doesn't ever happen again,

722
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 3: and he just looked right in the camera and said

723
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:44,600
Speaker 3: before I got in the shower, and then he did

724
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 3: not say another word. And Okay, all right, yep, I

725
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:49,360
Speaker 3: think that was That's why you go out and get

726
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 3: him and y A. Black and Jack Sawyer like big

727
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:55,800
Speaker 3: point of attack guys. You know that was kind of funny.

728
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 3: But when you look at Pittsburgh now, look at their

729
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:00,080
Speaker 3: front seven and the depth that they have, not just

730
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 3: the starters like they're backup outside linebackers are going to

731
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 3: be Jack Sawyer and herbig on the other side. Those

732
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 3: are good players. But you've got high Smith and then

733
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 3: you've got TJ. Watt, Like they've got four guys there.

734
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 3: They've got depth at linebacker now quarterback. We'll see how

735
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 3: that all comes together. But that defense has a chance

736
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 3: to be really, really deep and really really talented.

737
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, they they're front seven on paper, or certainly their

738
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 1: defensive line.

739
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 3: Peyton Wilson's a good player, like.

740
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 1: The absolute best in the league. That's why you have

741
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin on it. I know you guys do every

742
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 1: day three like he always was great. I'm gonna go

743
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 1: with a guy and I've made this opinion after watching

744
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 1: some of the press conferences, reading some of the local coverage,

745
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,240
Speaker 1: and its Demetrius Knight Junior for the Bengals, who was

746
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 1: a bit of a surprise second round pick for them,

747
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 1: and they expect them to start point blank.

748
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 2: They've made it better.

749
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 3: It's twenty five years old.

750
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 1: Right, get I get it, But he wasn't a guy

751
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 1: who necessarily was expected to go that early. They still

752
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 1: have Jermaine Pratt on the roster. He is not expected

753
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 1: to be on the roster, so he is not long

754
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:06,600
Speaker 1: for that team. And Night Junior, who kind of profiles

755
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 1: as a similar type of player, I think the Jermaine

756
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 1: Pratt is going to enter the league. I mean starting

757
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 1: for a team that wants to compete for the Super

758
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 1: Bowl at maybe the toughest position other than quarterback to

759
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 1: a just right away. So I think that's a risky pick.

760
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 1: I know they love him as a person, as a leader,

761
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 1: his story, it's amazing, but he's going to be under

762
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 1: pressure to play and play a lot and then I'll

763
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 1: just throw a couple of running backs at you.

764
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 3: Go ahead, Well, let me just pig you back on

765
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 3: that real quick. One thing. I didn't get a chance

766
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 3: to say this when he got picked. But one of

767
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 3: the things I loved about him, it's like an old

768
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 3: thing that I've always watched with players. I'm always curious

769
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 3: to see what happens after turnovers with defensive players. Sounds weird,

770
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 3: but there's always been a little connection there with great players.

771
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 3: Like great players, when they get the ball in their

772
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 3: hands to a they score, like that's just that's one thing.

773
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 3: And then if a teammate gets it, you watch the

774
00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 3: effort with which they block to try and make plays.

775
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 3: And there was a play you had two pancakes on

776
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 3: a pick, like his teammate makes the interception, he goes

777
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 3: and hunts up two different guys. It just shows like

778
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 3: kind of a there's like a dog like want to

779
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 3: thing there when you watch guys after turnovers. So the

780
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:16,240
Speaker 3: wiring with him is legit, Like he's absolutely wired the

781
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 3: right way. He's a good player, he's the coverage thing

782
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 3: is going to be a little bit of the thing

783
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 3: he's got to work on. That showed up at the

784
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 3: Senior Bowl.

785
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, quietly the Bengals draft in general, because you could

786
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 1: talk about their their third round guard Dylan Fairchild, their

787
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 1: do it their first round pick. Among good teams they

788
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 1: kind of need the most out of this rookie class.

789
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 1: All three of those guys kind of have slots where

790
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 1: you want them to come in and contribute quite a

791
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 1: bit right away. So we'll see if that happens. And

792
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 1: then yeah, I mentioned the running back R. J. Harvey

793
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 1: for the Broncos, like he's the huge fantasy football winner,

794
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:50,480
Speaker 1: Like there's a wide open path to a big role there.

795
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 2: And then Quid John let's go, but like more like

796
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 2: do you think it could be more?

797
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 1: Because you watch the more than I do, and he's

798
00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 1: an exciting player. Do you think like no one ever

799
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 1: wanted to give Sprouls twenty touches the game, do you

800
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 1: think Carvey could get that?

801
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 3: I don't think you want him to touch it that

802
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,760
Speaker 3: many quite that many times. But I think the Bucky

803
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 3: Irving a faster Bucky Irving, you know, with how he

804
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:14,280
Speaker 3: was utilized last year, especially coming down the home stretch,

805
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:16,760
Speaker 3: I think that's a pretty good Yeah, that's a pretty

806
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 3: good way to use him. But the pass game stuff

807
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:21,400
Speaker 3: like I'm just going to see him I already know

808
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:23,279
Speaker 3: doing the charger games. I'm going to see him catch

809
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 3: about fifteen to twenty of those angle routes getting ready

810
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 3: for those games. Just Sean Payton's just going to have

811
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:30,799
Speaker 3: a field day with that.

812
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:34,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, And then I mentioned Quinnchot Junkins going to the Browns.

813
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 1: They did take Dylan Sampson, who I liked a lot

814
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:38,440
Speaker 1: in the fourth round too, So maybe not all Judkins

815
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:39,920
Speaker 1: all the time, but I think it's going to be

816
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 1: a lot of quinnch On Junkins And unfortunately, probably the

817
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:45,400
Speaker 1: end of Nick Chubb's running Cleveland, some some buzz that

818
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 1: he might end up going to the Chicago Bears. Let's

819
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:53,280
Speaker 1: talk just quickly if any spots that weren't filled stand

820
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:54,759
Speaker 1: out to you. You get to the end of the draft,

821
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:58,920
Speaker 1: you can't get everything done. Anything stand out just.

822
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:01,480
Speaker 3: A Niners O line. I'm just you know, they went

823
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 3: all defense, heavy defense, which kind of surprised me a

824
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:07,240
Speaker 3: little bit, just because you're getting ready to pay party.

825
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 3: I thought, maybe try and you know, double down and

826
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:11,920
Speaker 3: invest in there. Like Pooney's a really good young player.

827
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:14,320
Speaker 3: I think he's got a chance to be a perennial

828
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:16,839
Speaker 3: pro bowler. They got a real good one there. It's

829
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:19,360
Speaker 3: just how much longer is Trent Williams going to play

830
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:21,800
Speaker 3: and trying to fill some of those other spots and

831
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 3: provide some more depth up front. I just you know,

832
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:26,840
Speaker 3: I thought they could have upgraded the right tackle position,

833
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 3: but it just didn't. You know, the draft didn't really

834
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 3: fall that way, so they adjusted, they pivoted. But I

835
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 3: think going into next offseason free agency in the draft,

836
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:38,120
Speaker 3: which again what a time to have a great show

837
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:41,440
Speaker 3: that combines both things, we'll be focusing on the forty

838
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 3: nine ers trying to get better up front.

839
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 2: Yeah. Here's the thing though.

840
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:48,280
Speaker 1: Every year I do this exercise, you know, the projected

841
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 1: Starter series where I look at the team, and every

842
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:52,759
Speaker 1: year I'm like, man, are the forty nine ers? Like

843
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:55,440
Speaker 1: is their offensive line talented enough? Isn't good enough? And

844
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 1: then at the end of the year, and I know

845
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:58,759
Speaker 1: last year wasn't their best year, but at the end

846
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:01,319
Speaker 1: of the year their first than all the yards per

847
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:03,880
Speaker 1: attempt and all the metrics, and they just seem to

848
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 1: find a way at that position and cornerback where they

849
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 1: just coach the heck out of it. And so I

850
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 1: always I always air on the side of Kyle Shananne'll

851
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 1: figure it out.

852
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:12,960
Speaker 2: I don't air that.

853
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,319
Speaker 1: Way when it comes to the Cowboys and their skill

854
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 1: position weapons, and I love their draft, but they didn't

855
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 1: take a wide receiver. What do you think about gold

856
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 1: and Matthew Golden being on the board and they go

857
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:27,400
Speaker 1: with Tyler Booker there because they could They could have

858
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 1: done it in the other spots, but especially right there.

859
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 1: I was a little surprised because they are very thin there.

860
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:35,440
Speaker 1: There's some talk maybe Amari Cooper comes back to the Cowboys.

861
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just you know, i'd heard early on the process,

862
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 3: and we talked about it on a bunch of our shows.

863
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:42,440
Speaker 3: They were kind of dialed it on interior offensive lineman,

864
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 3: and then it was if Tetoroa McMillan was there. They

865
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 3: liked him, so it was going to come down to that.

866
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:50,760
Speaker 3: So I had them taking I think I'm taking Gray's

867
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:52,719
Speaker 3: abel in one of them. You know, there was I

868
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 3: knew they would if they were going to take an

869
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,840
Speaker 3: interior lineman. They prefer to trade back. But what looks

870
00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 3: like what happened is McMillan's gone. He goes to Carolina

871
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 3: and they couldn't get out, so you're stuck and you

872
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 3: just make the pick. And then the other thing I

873
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:07,359
Speaker 3: was told, which makes a lot of sense. I mean,

874
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:10,359
Speaker 3: this organization values guards. I mean, this is the home

875
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:12,799
Speaker 3: of Larry Allen, this is the home of Zach Martin. Like,

876
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,360
Speaker 3: they put a premium on that, and they think if

877
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 3: they're really good with that interior that unlocks the run game,

878
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 3: that's gonna be crucial in terms of giving a nice

879
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 3: deep pocket to the quarterback. So, you know, compared to

880
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 3: some other organizations like the Saints that we always talked

881
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 3: about with Sean Payton, were an interior offensive line, you know, factory,

882
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:32,799
Speaker 3: and they believed in investing in that. I think the

883
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:35,440
Speaker 3: Cowboys would fall in that same vein. But I am

884
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 3: with you, I am concerned about where else you're gonna

885
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:39,320
Speaker 3: throw the football.

886
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:42,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, Dak Prescott has not been on the list of

887
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 1: quarterbacks that are getting a lot of help in the offseason,

888
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:48,799
Speaker 1: and he's coming off another major injury that worries me.

889
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:51,239
Speaker 1: Another position that stuck out to me was just the

890
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:54,720
Speaker 1: Dolphin secondary, partly because Jalen Ramsey didn't get traded.

891
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 2: But then after.

892
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 1: The draft, and I know you've been in a little

893
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 1: bit of a bunker, Chris Greer is talking their general

894
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:04,239
Speaker 1: manager and he said, well, we'll still handle that at

895
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:06,879
Speaker 1: the appropriate time. Jalen Ramsey did not make it sound

896
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 1: like he is going to be on that roster. And

897
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 1: then if you look at the details, they can save

898
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:14,840
Speaker 1: a ton of money against the cap if he's traded

899
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:17,360
Speaker 1: after June first, whereas they would have lost a bunch

900
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 1: of money against the cap traded before. And suddenly I realized, oh,

901
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:23,280
Speaker 1: I shouldn't have expected him to get traded this weekend,

902
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 1: so he's not expected to be there. And then if

903
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 1: you look who's there at cornerback for them, their top

904
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 1: three cornerbacks DJ cater Kohu, probably a slock guy, Storm Duck,

905
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 1: great name, and then Cam Smith and Already Burns. They'll

906
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 1: probably bring in some veterans. But man, that is a

907
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 1: position group that I think Josh Allen, for instance, is

908
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:46,920
Speaker 1: going to look at and think like we can target

909
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 1: that position group.

910
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 3: I want to say Storm Duck at one point time

911
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:52,840
Speaker 3: might have gone to Apple, Aachian state. That name sounds

912
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:54,880
Speaker 3: very familiar. I have to double check my work on

913
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:55,239
Speaker 3: that one.

914
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:57,399
Speaker 1: But he looked good and trading camp and look good

915
00:38:57,400 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 1: in the preseason last year, had some injuries.

916
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:00,839
Speaker 2: Storm Duck was I will big.

917
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 3: Sense, I will remind you, and I'm not saying this

918
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:05,799
Speaker 3: because this would petition has to get more episodes of

919
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 3: this limited series run that we're on right now. But

920
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:11,240
Speaker 3: we're not done with the acquiring season. You know, there's

921
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:14,279
Speaker 3: there's trades you can make going forward. There's guys still

922
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 3: out there on the street. I think last year the Chargers,

923
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 3: for example, it was a trade for Elijah Moulten, who

924
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 3: ended up being a good player for them. They think

925
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:23,240
Speaker 3: they traded a six round pick. But Pree was hanging

926
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 3: out there. They brought him in, played a nice role.

927
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 3: There's still some guys out there. I just saw Bobby

928
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:30,360
Speaker 3: Trees just got signed, you know, So where'd he go?

929
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:33,320
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh? Maybe he is with the Steeler Woods.

930
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:37,799
Speaker 1: I giving Alan Robinson on the Steelers last year vibes,

931
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:39,239
Speaker 1: but I hope not because one of my one of

932
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:42,320
Speaker 1: my favorite players of the last decade, like Robert Woods,

933
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:45,319
Speaker 1: I love I love me some Robert Woods, one of

934
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 1: my kid's favorite players as well. But you're right, there's

935
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:51,959
Speaker 1: about fifteen guys left on my top one oh one list.

936
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:54,360
Speaker 2: So people got to go to work. In terms of

937
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 2: my go check it out, Go check out that list.

938
00:39:56,239 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 3: NFL dot com slash Greg knows best I believe.

939
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 1: Is Rossell Douglas I believe was like seventy six on that,

940
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 1: which I thought was actually conservative.

941
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 2: But he's out there. I think Miami has talked to

942
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:07,839
Speaker 2: him a little bit.

943
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, we are wrapping up here on forties and free agents.

944
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:22,279
Speaker 2: But before we.

945
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 1: Do that, we got we gotta put you on the clock.

946
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 1: This is this is the segment that's been a lot

947
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:30,880
Speaker 1: of buzz all over the shot.

948
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:33,480
Speaker 3: Adam Seine has been it is his favorite segment. Let's

949
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 3: let's give Adam what he wants.

950
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:37,840
Speaker 1: Here, all right, five minutes on the clock. Some questions

951
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:42,359
Speaker 1: for DJ before we get out of here. During the draft, Oh,

952
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:46,879
Speaker 1: I just love those chimes. How many guys were taken

953
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:50,279
Speaker 1: while you were on the set where you kind of

954
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:52,359
Speaker 1: like look through your notes and you just hope they

955
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:54,400
Speaker 1: didn't go to you asking for anything.

956
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:59,280
Speaker 3: So I think all total there was four or five,

957
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:02,359
Speaker 3: not more than that, four or five, and that's usually

958
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:04,880
Speaker 3: about normal, about four or five guys who got picked,

959
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 3: None within the first five six rounds. I think they

960
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 3: were all in the seventh rounds, just some random flyers,

961
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 3: including mister irrelevant. But I'm always straight up honest on that,

962
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:15,360
Speaker 3: there's no there's no upside in trying to fake your

963
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 3: way through an evaluation like I'm never going to do that.

964
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna be like, look, here's if we like

965
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 3: we didn't have a bio on the guy who got

966
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 3: picked last, like that was out of left field, but

967
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 3: most of them you'd have a bio and and you

968
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 3: know we're not going pick to pick at that point

969
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:30,400
Speaker 3: time in the draft either. But if they come to

970
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 3: me on it, I'd be like, look, this is a

971
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:33,920
Speaker 3: guy who's six' one two o, five he ran four four,

972
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 3: five he caught sixty five. Balls i'll be honest you

973
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:38,760
Speaker 3: THAT i did not watch. Him so that's HOW i handle.

974
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 1: It ALTHOUGH i wouldn't have known on mister, elevant mister,

975
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:44,320
Speaker 1: irrelevant you you had some information WHEN i was, watching

976
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 1: and your entire top one fifty got, drafted which is.

977
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 1: Crazy so along those, lines when your top one fifty came,

978
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 1: OUT i was actually talking to someone else and their

979
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:56,920
Speaker 1: immediate reaction to your top one fifty was who Is

980
00:41:57,080 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 1: KeAndre Lambert? Smith and who you had around one?

981
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 2: Five a wide.

982
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 1: Receiver then five days, later The, chargers the team you work,

983
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:08,400
Speaker 1: for took him in the fifth. Round are they just

984
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 1: drafting off your? List or are you now the SHADOW

985
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 1: gm of The.

986
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 3: Chargers, no that's a coincidence in a big. Way that

987
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:19,720
Speaker 3: is a. Coincidence there was one player who was DRAFTED

988
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:21,840
Speaker 3: i will remain nameless THAT i had a chance to

989
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:23,840
Speaker 3: talk to a coach who had not seen this player

990
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 3: late AND i talked to him about a week ago

991
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 3: AND i, said you gotta watch this. Guy and then

992
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 3: lo and, behold they and not because of WHAT i,

993
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:33,480
Speaker 3: said but the other people in the building liked. Him

994
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 3: but then this coach watched, Him he's LIKE i do

995
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:36,440
Speaker 3: kind of like, him and then they picked him in

996
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:36,840
Speaker 3: the Second.

997
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 2: WOW i want to find that after the. Show i'm

998
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:40,919
Speaker 2: gonna find.

999
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:44,360
Speaker 1: Out speaking of The, chargers just Hamp omari And hampton

1000
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:48,720
Speaker 1: Over Matthew golden and over trading. Down it was reported

1001
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 1: they had an offer from The eagles to trade. Down

1002
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:53,400
Speaker 1: i'm just curious what your thoughts were on.

1003
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:56,319
Speaker 3: THAT i would have liked to. TRADE i, mean, LOOK

1004
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:58,799
Speaker 3: i Love, hampton and the funny thing Is hampton was

1005
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 3: my thirteenth. Player goal was my fourteenth, player SO i

1006
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:04,799
Speaker 3: would have been just fine either. WAY i, mean they're

1007
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 3: both really really good. Players BUT i thought if they

1008
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 3: could have pulled. Off the TRADE i believe was what The.

1009
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:12,319
Speaker 3: EAGLES i thought they were in a pretty good shot

1010
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:15,840
Speaker 3: where your fallback, is, man we maybe we Get, hampton probably,

1011
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:18,440
Speaker 3: gone but if we don't get, him we've Got Trayvon,

1012
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 3: henderson WHO i love as well as an option, there

1013
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 3: and maybe that gives you an. Opportunity as you, KNOW

1014
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:27,279
Speaker 3: i was a Big Mason taylor, fan SO i thought

1015
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 3: maybe that could have FREED jep to try and to

1016
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:31,760
Speaker 3: pull that daily double off. There But i'm not Gonna

1017
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 3: i'm not gonna fault The chargers at. All they got.

1018
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 3: It they got my thirteenth player with a twenty second, pick.

1019
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 1: All, right two minutes left. Here you're you're always so

1020
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:41,920
Speaker 1: nice in your draft. Coverage if you were A, gm

1021
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:44,319
Speaker 1: which is The Draft, hall you'd least have wanted to.

1022
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 3: HAVE i was A, gm the least The draft halls

1023
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 3: favorite draft class.

1024
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:53,320
Speaker 2: Got you gotta put someone out on Front street.

1025
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 3: HERE i, MEAN i didn't love The bengals. DRAFT i

1026
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:00,800
Speaker 3: didn't love. IT i think they got some, good solid,

1027
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 3: players but it's just HOW i had them. STACKED i

1028
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:04,920
Speaker 3: would have gone in a little bit different. Direction but,

1029
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 3: hey they've Got Joe burrow and they'll make it all.

1030
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 2: Work did you have a favorite one out?

1031
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 1: There and by the, way, yeah, Now Duke tobin's not

1032
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 1: going to return your calls for the next.

1033
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 3: Year duke does a great. JOB i Love.

1034
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 2: Duke do you have a favorite? Draft favorite draft? Hall?

1035
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:20,279
Speaker 3: YEAH i Was New. England New england was my favorite draft.

1036
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 3: HALL i love what The patriots. Did, YEAH i was

1037
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 3: fired up for.

1038
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:26,440
Speaker 1: Them are you aware that last week an article was

1039
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:31,400
Speaker 1: written about this show that called, us quote THE Nfl

1040
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 1: draft tag team Champions and in the.

1041
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:37,280
Speaker 2: Article this is a QUOTE.

1042
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 1: Dj it said THAT, I Greg rosenthal have a draft

1043
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 1: intellect that is through the roof your.

1044
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:49,719
Speaker 3: THOUGHTS i didn't know you wrote under an alias that

1045
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:52,919
Speaker 3: would be my. Thought that's.

1046
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 2: AMAZING i MEAN i had a few options to choose.

1047
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:56,400
Speaker 2: FROM i mean very.

1048
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 3: Kind how long did it take you to write that?

1049
00:44:58,120 --> 00:44:59,760
Speaker 3: Thing by the, way it was very. Long.

1050
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 2: Yeah check Out Barret. SPORTS i loved.

1051
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 1: IT i want to compete next year at twenty twenty.

1052
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 1: Six hopefully we're doing this. Again who are some names

1053
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:09,240
Speaker 1: you're excited about THAT i should check.

1054
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 3: Out for next? Year? Sure draft, Wise i'm always looking

1055
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 3: at the. Quarterbacks Leonora sellers At South. Carolina i'm excited

1056
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:19,719
Speaker 3: to watch. Him Drew, ALLER i know of The year

1057
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 3: didn't finish up the way he wanted to in his final,

1058
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:23,840
Speaker 3: game but he's, big, strong got a lot of ability,

1059
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:26,920
Speaker 3: there So i'm curious to see. Him Caleb downs is

1060
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 3: going to be a lot of, fun the safety At Ohio,

1061
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 3: state big time.

1062
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 1: Player all, Right and then, finally did you enjoy this?

1063
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:35,719
Speaker 1: Show and will we do it? Again you have five?

1064
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:38,719
Speaker 3: SECONDS i did love, it AND i hope that it comes.

1065
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:42,920
Speaker 2: Back oh look at D. J that's why he kills

1066
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:44,439
Speaker 2: me all season and at the, TIME i.

1067
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 3: Think there's something. Here, Man i'm not even. Joking there

1068
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:49,840
Speaker 3: are a lot of. People there are a lot of

1069
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 3: my friends inside the league that have really enjoyed. This

1070
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 3: they've gotten to know you through this, process and they've

1071
00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 3: enjoyed the heck out of. It and Then i'm sure

1072
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 3: you know there's you got your legion of fans you,

1073
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:05,239
Speaker 3: know worldwide that always have hated me because you've talked

1074
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 3: so poorly about me over the years on all your,

1075
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:09,840
Speaker 3: shows AND i think they're, realizing, like, hey he's not.

1076
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 3: Terrible you, know he's not. Terrible, NOW i think that

1077
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 3: means we got. SOMETHING i think that means we really

1078
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:15,920
Speaker 3: have something.

1079
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:18,359
Speaker 2: To all those people inside the league where you've. Been

1080
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:19,759
Speaker 2: let's get. Going i'm with.

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Speaker 1: You this has been a ton of, fun forties and.

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Speaker 1: Freedoms we will try to find a way to keep

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Speaker 1: this thing. Going thanks for all that you. DO, dj and,

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Speaker 1: yeah we'll see you next draft, season hopefully Before, yeah

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Speaker 3: Yeah i'll come out that see, you, buddy