1 00:00:01,560 --> 00:00:05,240 Speaker 1: All right, here we go, Pack twelve fans. This one's 2 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:11,240 Speaker 1: for you. This it's the Pack twelve Apostles, and only 3 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:18,640 Speaker 1: the truth lives here. Pack twelve Apostles Apostles. The Pack 4 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 1: twelve fair very well in the NFL Draft considering the 5 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 1: number of draft elible eligible prospects there were from the conference, 6 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:35,319 Speaker 1: which was less than last year. College football expansion is here. Uh, 7 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:39,199 Speaker 1: it'll be here by three, but the conference needs an 8 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:43,919 Speaker 1: advocate since Larry Scott is going out and the email 9 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 1: box is full from you guys. Thank you guys. Here 10 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 1: on the PAC twelve Apostles. I'm George Rice Stir, He's 11 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 1: Ralph Ams and and this is the Pack twelve Apostles. 12 00:00:56,640 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 1: This is the podcast Bipack twelve fans, four Pack twelve fans, 13 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 1: where you come and get the truth. You guys can 14 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:06,320 Speaker 1: shoot us emails. I'm mad, I am m a D 15 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 1: at Unafraid show dot com. And also you guys can 16 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 1: give us a call at not a call, but shoot 17 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 1: us a text eight one a two nine three seven 18 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:22,559 Speaker 1: five four seven eight two nine three seven five four seven. 19 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:26,760 Speaker 1: Uh So, just so anybody, uh, anybody knows if we 20 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 1: are going to continue to do every other week for 21 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 1: the pack twelve apostles. Until we get closer to the season, 22 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 1: there's not as much stuff going on, but of course 23 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:40,039 Speaker 1: when there are emergency episodes needed, like if it's not 24 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:43,759 Speaker 1: the same week when we when the new commissioner is announced, 25 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 1: then of course we will drop emergency episodes as well. 26 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 1: But Ralph Man, how is South Carolina treating North Carolina 27 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 1: treating you? Buddy? Um? I actually saved this for the show. 28 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 1: I want to run this by you. I got into 29 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 1: a confrontation at the Charlotte Airport right after picking up 30 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 1: my wife and daughter. Hadn't seen my daughter in a month. Um, 31 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 1: I haven't heard this story yet, right, Okay, So I 32 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 1: just wanted to. I want to run it by you. 33 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 1: I wanted to get your take. And I'm not gonna 34 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna pull any punches. I'm not gonna make 35 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:18,640 Speaker 1: myself look like the hero. Nothing. I'm gonna tell you 36 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:23,639 Speaker 1: exactly what happened. So, uh, we we get um all 37 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 1: of our bags and and my wife packed a lot 38 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 1: of bags because there's still some of our stuff down 39 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 1: in Arizona. So she figured if she could fly some 40 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 1: of it, then that would be less for me to 41 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:34,519 Speaker 1: drive when I fly out there in a couple of 42 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 1: weeks and drive it all back. So she's got probably 43 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 1: five bags with her, three big rolling ones, and so 44 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 1: the three of us. My daughter's got a bag, my 45 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:48,800 Speaker 1: wife's got too, and I've got to and we're crossing 46 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 1: the crosswalk. Um to get from the loading and unloading zone. Um, 47 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 1: it's the same as any other airport where you just 48 00:02:57,360 --> 00:02:59,360 Speaker 1: kind of pull it out real quick, drop people off, 49 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 1: kick him out of your car or run out, get 50 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 1: a quick hug, and they hop into your car and 51 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:05,359 Speaker 1: you take off. So there's always people coming, are going, 52 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 1: there's always people crossing on the crosswalks. You always have 53 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 1: to make sure that you are hyper aware, probably more 54 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 1: than anywhere else. You have to be super hyper aware 55 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 1: in the departures arrivals portion of the airport drop off. 56 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 1: So we get into the crosswalk, there is a crossing 57 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 1: guard guy who stops traffic when there's people on the crosswalk. 58 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 1: So he stops traffic. There's four lanes, there's only cars 59 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 1: in one of the lanes, so and and the one 60 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 1: lane is probably five cars deep. So in this guy's 61 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 1: um to make basically to make an excuse for this guy, 62 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 1: he was the fourth car back. There's an open lane 63 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 1: to his left and open lane to his right, so 64 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 1: very possible. He doesn't see the crossing guard. But he's 65 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 1: on his phone. So he got a phone in one hand, 66 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 1: which I think is illegal out here. He's got a 67 00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 1: cigarette in in in the other so like he didn't 68 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 1: even hands on the steering wheel. He's driving with his 69 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 1: with his palms. Um. So he pulls out into the 70 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 1: left lane. Mind you, traffic is stopped for my family 71 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 1: to walk across. So he pulls out in the left 72 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 1: lane and punches it and he's accelerating into where my 73 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 1: wife right. So pretty simple. He wasn't paying attention. He 74 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 1: got impatient, and he tried to get around the situation, 75 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:33,279 Speaker 1: and he put my kid and my wife in danger. 76 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:37,719 Speaker 1: So who you? Who do you haven't seen in a month? 77 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 1: Who I haven't seen in a month. Yeah, and I'm 78 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:43,280 Speaker 1: already like hyper uh sensitive to the idea that we're 79 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:45,720 Speaker 1: all walking in traffic, Like it's already uh you know, 80 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 1: you're you're on high alert. Anyway, Um, what would you 81 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 1: have done in that situation? And I'll tell you what 82 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 1: I did? Um? So he stopped right. Yeah, Well, he 83 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 1: like screeched on his brakes and then a cigarette in 84 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 1: one hand, phone and the other just stared at us. 85 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 1: I probably would have just like raised my raised my 86 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 1: hands and been like, come on, come on, bro, like 87 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 1: pay attention, and they just kept on walking. Probably, but 88 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 1: my my wife would have kicked the car. Okay. So 89 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 1: here's what I did. Nothing you chose obviously. I did nothing. Nothing, 90 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 1: and my nothing I mean where I was standing when 91 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:37,480 Speaker 1: he hit the brakes is where I continued to stand 92 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:42,600 Speaker 1: my wife and daughter finished crossing the street. I did 93 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 1: not How long did you stand there until he went 94 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 1: around me? How long did that take? Probably thirty seconds? 95 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 1: Thirty long as seconds. He's like, staring is not gonna 96 00:05:57,160 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 1: do nothing. What are you gonna do? What are you 97 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 1: gonna do? I didn't say word. He didn't see my family, 98 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 1: so I made sure he saw me. I stayed there, 99 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 1: stared him down, and then he pulled off to the side, 100 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:12,600 Speaker 1: and he's like, you're not gonna do anything, and I 101 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:16,720 Speaker 1: was like, you're the one in the car, and he 102 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:18,479 Speaker 1: looked kind of like you know who Neil Brennan is, 103 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 1: the co creator Chappelle Show. It looked kind of like 104 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 1: Neil Brennan so what the funny thing is? Like part 105 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 1: of me was like, man, that'd be so funny if 106 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 1: this was Neil Brennan. But I just stayed there. I 107 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:32,919 Speaker 1: didn't I didn't move, I didn't say a word. And 108 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:35,279 Speaker 1: then he just goes, fuck you, you you fat fuck and 109 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 1: peels out and that was the end of it. And 110 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 1: my wife, of course, is like, you know, she was like, 111 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:44,479 Speaker 1: you you're starting something. You're like she thought that I 112 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 1: was trying to start a fight, and I just said, 113 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 1: I pointed to one of the pillars in the parking garage. 114 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 1: I said, that's me. You gotta go around me or 115 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:53,039 Speaker 1: through me, but you have to make the choice. He 116 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 1: didn't see you, guys. I made sure he saw me. 117 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 1: I didn't raise my voice, I didn't curse at him, 118 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:04,600 Speaker 1: I didn't say anything about his other Okay, see, okay, 119 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 1: I don't hate your choice, right, I don't hate your choice, 120 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 1: But I also don't think that that was necessarily a 121 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 1: safe choice, because you have crazy folks, and he may 122 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 1: have run you over. And then how the hell would 123 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 1: we do this podcast the website. We have big plans, Ralph, 124 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 1: and crazy people sometimes get in the way of that. 125 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 1: So I would have liked he was wearing designer eyeglasses, 126 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 1: and for a moment I thought to myself, like, we 127 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 1: might have found ourselves a podcast sponsor. That dude runs 128 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 1: me over. He's he's paying for our show and more dude, 129 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 1: he um, so I've sitting here. So yeah, Like I said, 130 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 1: I don't hate your choice. I get it. A lot 131 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 1: of other people would have kicked the car, used them out, 132 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 1: flipped them off, all of those things. I just don't 133 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 1: like the idea of standing in front of cars because 134 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 1: cars hurt people. So like, if you get hit by 135 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 1: a card, you're going to lose, and I don't have 136 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 1: time for for that. But I don't think that you 137 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 1: made a bad choice. I thought you just made a 138 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 1: you know, a choice that I wouldn't have made. I'm 139 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 1: not gonna call it sub suboptimal, because because I really 140 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 1: respect you as a thoughtful human being. But I just 141 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:34,839 Speaker 1: wouldn't have made that choice, you know the crossing guard did. 142 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:36,560 Speaker 1: The crossing guard just looked at me and he rolled 143 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:38,320 Speaker 1: his eyes and went back to do what are you's doing? 144 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 1: He said, I'm not gonna die over this. Yeah, alright, 145 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 1: So well, so that's how North Carolina is going. Your 146 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 1: family made it home safe, which is which is good 147 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 1: and for me out here in California, mm hmm, not 148 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 1: not much. It's just getting real hot. Yeah. So I 149 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 1: tell you what, George, you saw that if you saw 150 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 1: the size of my honeydew list since my wife got 151 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 1: up here, I'm kind of hoping that dude would have 152 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 1: run me over. Oh god, dude, I get my wife 153 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 1: now knows that the honey do list it must be 154 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 1: like five items or less. And then so so she 155 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 1: actually reserves things on that list for later. I think 156 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 1: I think that she just gives me a list of 157 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 1: a couple of things because she knows if she gives 158 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:37,199 Speaker 1: me a list of twenty things, there's about a zero 159 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 1: percent chance that it's going to get done. So so 160 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 1: she gives me a list of like three to five things. 161 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 1: I can knock those out. But then as soon as 162 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 1: those three to five things are done, she's like, oh, yeah, 163 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 1: here's the here's a few more things the next time. 164 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:54,319 Speaker 1: That's a rough thing about a thing list is even 165 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 1: if you get twelve done, you failed. Even if you 166 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 1: even if you go all out exactly, but if it's 167 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 1: a three to five list, I get a sense of 168 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 1: accomplishment and I get a pad on the back. But 169 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:10,960 Speaker 1: then I get another list. But that's that's fine because 170 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 1: it's a whole new list. So at least I so 171 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 1: I could say I did the one list. So then 172 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 1: when I missed a thing or two on the second list, 173 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 1: I'm already I already got Hay in the barn, buddy, 174 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 1: So we can move on to the back twelve though, 175 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 1: the Pack twelve, So the NFL Draft was last week. 176 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 1: The Pack twelve, I would say, had a fair like that. 177 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 1: It had a good draft. That granted, it did not 178 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 1: have the most amount of people drafted, but there were 179 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 1: less this year. There were less draft eligible players because 180 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:54,079 Speaker 1: so many kids went back to school for an additional year, 181 00:10:54,679 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 1: so there were less Yes, so there were less draft 182 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 1: eligible players. So the percentage of draft eligible players was 183 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 1: higher this year than it was in previous years. And 184 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 1: a lot of people will you know, a lot of 185 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 1: people will judge and say, oh, well, the Pack twelve 186 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:16,960 Speaker 1: is so far behind all these other conferences. Here are 187 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 1: the facts going into this draft that we just saw 188 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 1: is between twenty eleven and twenty Yeah, twenty eleven and 189 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:31,079 Speaker 1: twenty that's ten years that the SEC had five and 190 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:35,440 Speaker 1: twenty nine draft picks, hundred and three first rounders. Almost 191 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 1: half of those were from Alabama, which is crazy. Uh 192 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 1: A C C three sixty and fifty the Big Ten three, 193 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 1: fifty nine and forty five. And mind you, the A C, C, 194 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 1: SEC and Big Ten have had for the bulk of 195 00:11:55,440 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 1: this eleven to twenty they've had fourteen teams. So and 196 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 1: then we moved down to the Pack twelve, three twenty 197 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 1: three and forty four first round picks, so only one 198 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:10,960 Speaker 1: less than the Big Ten in terms of first rounders 199 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:13,719 Speaker 1: and six less than the A C C. And then 200 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 1: you have the Big Twelve, which had twelve and ten 201 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 1: members for those those years UH two, twenty six and 202 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 1: thirty three first rounders. So the Pack twelve has been 203 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 1: better than the Big twelve and on par with the 204 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 1: A C C and Big Ten, especially considering that they 205 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 1: have two less teams. So what what was your take 206 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 1: Raunph on this? Because a lot of people, you know, 207 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 1: have the nerve and the audacity to, you know, say 208 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 1: the Pack twelve sucks. And I'm like, how can you 209 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 1: say the Pack twelve sucks when the draft picks you know, 210 00:12:57,040 --> 00:13:00,679 Speaker 1: don't say that? And this goes back to narrative like 211 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 1: we've heard for so long, I'm I'm with you. Add percent, 212 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 1: these NFL teams don't think that the Pack twelve sucks. 213 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:12,319 Speaker 1: They still send the scouts out to all of these games. 214 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 1: Every time I'm in a press box, I'm surrounded by 215 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 1: NFL scouts, you know, a laundry list of of people 216 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:21,840 Speaker 1: who are coming out to to check out the players. 217 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 1: Is the Is there a talent deficit in the Pack 218 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 1: twelve compared to what is available in the recruiting footprint? Yes, 219 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 1: and I think that that's much more alarming. It is 220 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 1: much more alarming that the the Pack twelve loses people 221 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 1: within the Pack twelve recruiting footprint on a regular basis 222 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 1: to teams all of the country that then turned into 223 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 1: NFL draft picks. Because I feel like if they stuck around, 224 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 1: it'd be a wrap. It would not be comparable, you know, 225 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 1: especially especially with West Texas sending a lot of people 226 00:13:56,280 --> 00:14:00,320 Speaker 1: to um the Pack twelve. What what The one thing 227 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:02,959 Speaker 1: that really didn't look good for the Pack twelve as 228 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 1: a whole, including the footprint this year, is how much 229 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 1: how much do I personally hype up Arizona High school football? 230 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:12,960 Speaker 1: I'm always trying to put it on the level of 231 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 1: like the third tier of the of the states that 232 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 1: produced NFL talent. I'm always doing that, right. I guess 233 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 1: how many uh NFL draft picks came out of Arizona 234 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 1: in this draft two one, one and so I gotta 235 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 1: I gotta eat some humble pie. We gotta go back 236 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 1: to the drawing board, because that's true, because all right, 237 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 1: see that may be brutal for this year, but I 238 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 1: think that it's Arizona that really started to get on 239 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 1: the map. I think with their talent, with that class 240 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 1: with Keiley Ringo, I think that that was the first 241 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 1: elite Arizona high school recruiting class, right, I mean, am 242 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 1: I am? Yeah, there's when you got the you got 243 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 1: the Nick Kill, harry By and Murphy. Class was was 244 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 1: pretty good, but unequaled. It's it's the best ever. I 245 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 1: you're you're talking yeah yeah. So if you have no no, 246 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 1: that was the class. So if you then have so 247 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 1: in that three and twenty four draft, you should have 248 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 1: more Arizona players drafted. I think, like like kids from 249 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 1: the state of Arizona because of the elite level that 250 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 1: the recruiting classes are continuing to produce. I think that 251 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 1: that's where you're going to see a transformation. I think 252 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 1: that if the PAC twelve has anything to worry about 253 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 1: from this last draft, it's that some guys who you 254 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 1: thought would probably be sure fire um NFL draft picks 255 00:15:56,560 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 1: coming into their college career, like Tyler Vaughan's on Elijah Griffin, 256 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 1: go undrafted because I believe both of those are five stars. 257 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 1: I know Tyler von I think Elijah Griffin was as well. Yeah, 258 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 1: that that reflects more poorly on the PAC twelve. But 259 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 1: then you got two stars like Frank Derby who ended 260 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 1: up getting drafted ahead of Demitric Felton. And what did 261 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 1: we both say, wouldn't neither one of us? I thought 262 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 1: that that would happen. Yeah, And the the the interesting 263 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 1: part about the guys that you said, I don't think 264 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 1: that Elijah Griffin and Tyler Vaughn's not being drafted reflects 265 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 1: poorly on the PACK twelve. I think with Elijah Griffin 266 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 1: it reflects poorly on his decision to leave, first and foremost, 267 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 1: and secondly on the development at USC, because if you 268 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 1: look at USC's draft, right, you had i'm un ra 269 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 1: st Brown, who was the first who was a five 270 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 1: star what was he like, number eight in the country. Yeah, 271 00:16:56,800 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 1: and he was very produces. Yeah, it was very productive 272 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:06,119 Speaker 1: in college as well. And then he ends up going 273 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 1: in the what in the fourth round, number number one twelve. Granted, 274 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 1: that's not a bad draft pick because I was number 275 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 1: one oh one oh four, so I'm not knocking his 276 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 1: his status, but I think I think he and a 277 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 1: lot of other people that USC who had been you know, 278 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:26,919 Speaker 1: kind of a first round factory for so long, and 279 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 1: especially round one through three, this was not a good 280 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:34,440 Speaker 1: showing in the last drafts haven't been real good showings 281 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:38,639 Speaker 1: for them, despite having two first round draft picks in 282 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:42,120 Speaker 1: Elijah Vera Tucker and then the the other tackle who 283 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 1: went down to Miami last year. They think the first 284 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 1: round guys. But I appreciate what you're trying to say. 285 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:57,680 Speaker 1: But at the same time, like USC is probably known 286 00:17:57,720 --> 00:17:59,919 Speaker 1: for doing what the worst job at developing their offense 287 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 1: line over the last few years, then there, yes, they 288 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 1: have to person back to back first round picks. Yeah, 289 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:07,919 Speaker 1: but you can also say that it's been neither one 290 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:11,879 Speaker 1: of those dudes maximize their potential while in college. Well, well, 291 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 1: because Elijah very very Tucker was playing out of position 292 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 1: compared in terms of what he comps to in the NFL, 293 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:22,719 Speaker 1: was playing tackle left tackle when everybody thinks he's a guard. 294 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 1: So so if you have first round guys on your 295 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:32,160 Speaker 1: team and draft picks you don't and they don't get drafted, 296 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:36,639 Speaker 1: that means that it's probably scheme that has something to 297 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 1: do with it. Because USC can't run the football, but 298 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 1: apparently they have players who can help run the football. 299 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 1: And so that's the part that's kind of alarming. And 300 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:51,879 Speaker 1: you had Oregon to have five first round draft picks, 301 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 1: Stanford have I'm sorry, five draft picks. Stanford had five, 302 00:18:56,760 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 1: USC have five, Washington had four, Arizona had to including 303 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:04,879 Speaker 1: uh Gary Brightwell, who I told you was going to 304 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:07,159 Speaker 1: be a high draft pick and he would have been 305 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 1: much higher had he not fumbled that what three times 306 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 1: in that one game. Oregon State had to U C 307 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:18,920 Speaker 1: l A, had to Arizona State, cow in Colorado had one. 308 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 1: So who would you say had the best draft? Uh 309 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:32,679 Speaker 1: so Washington. I thought Oregon got guys drafted that I 310 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:34,639 Speaker 1: did not think we're gonna get drafted, which is the 311 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 1: opposite of what happened last year. So I thought John 312 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 1: looked good for that. Okay, Okay, So we'll go through 313 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 1: the picks for the schools. So Oregon had pinass Will 314 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:50,920 Speaker 1: go seventh, Javon Holland go in the second round at 315 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:55,679 Speaker 1: thirty six, and then they had Diamador Leonora go fifth round. 316 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 1: Are these are all three of those guys? Stat out right? 317 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:02,639 Speaker 1: How many of those guys shout out? Was Brady Breese? 318 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 1: One of them is Brady Brady Breeze yep, Thomas Graham Jr. 319 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 1: Javon Holland, and Pine sul So Oregon had four guys 320 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 1: drafted who didn't even play last year. I didn't even play, 321 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:24,360 Speaker 1: so um. And then you had Diamador Leonore who did 322 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:27,119 Speaker 1: play last year, who opted out but then opted back 323 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 1: in go in the fifth round. So and then you 324 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 1: had Washington have a first round pick, a set, a 325 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:39,479 Speaker 1: second round pick, a fifth round pick. Yeah. So so 326 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:43,119 Speaker 1: how how would you judge judge their drafts? Because I 327 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 1: think that obviously Oregon had the best draft, but the 328 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 1: the next best draft I thought had to go to 329 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:57,160 Speaker 1: Stanford because Stanford had a second rounder with Walker Little, 330 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:01,120 Speaker 1: Davis Mills go third round. And true fully, if Davis 331 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 1: Mills had been able to play more because he only 332 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 1: started like eleven games I think in his whole college career, 333 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:10,920 Speaker 1: then he would have been a first round draft pick 334 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 1: for sure. Paulson and Debo goes third round, and then 335 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 1: they have Drew Dolman, their center go go fourth round. 336 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 1: So I thought that that and then uh Semi Fioco, 337 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 1: who who turns out ran four three, got drafted in 338 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:29,439 Speaker 1: the fifth round. I can't say after because I was 339 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, you got a big bodied receiver 340 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:33,880 Speaker 1: you know who will go up and get it. That's 341 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:36,879 Speaker 1: a guy you really should think about in later rounds. 342 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 1: Finding out he ran a fourth three, I can't believe 343 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 1: he lasted as long as he did. But doesn't that 344 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:45,440 Speaker 1: make sense though, because when you watch him play, he 345 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:49,119 Speaker 1: would constantly be behind people. You're like, why are you 346 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:52,120 Speaker 1: letting this big old like run past you? And then 347 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:54,960 Speaker 1: you find out, oh, he runs four three, the one 348 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 1: guy on the field who runs a nine round for Stanford. 349 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 1: But on that I always I just I just always 350 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 1: thought like, oh, they ran the ball nine times in 351 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 1: a row. Of course, people are biting on the play action. 352 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:07,480 Speaker 1: I didn't realize he was fast fast. Yeah, I didn't 353 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 1: know either. I didn't have a blue. I was like, this, dude, 354 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 1: rare four three? Are you kidding me? Okay, well, now 355 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:16,880 Speaker 1: now it makes sense. Now it makes sense why he 356 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 1: was behind people. Did you watch the NFL network stream 357 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:27,119 Speaker 1: with David Shaw for the first round? No? Okay, So 358 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 1: they had David Shaw at the desk for the whole 359 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 1: first round even though Stanford wasn't gonna have any you know, 360 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 1: for first round picks. I don't think that they had 361 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 1: planned on any first round picks from Stanford. And he's fantastic, man, 362 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 1: He's so good on television. He's so good on television. 363 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 1: I don't know if he is maximizing the value of 364 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:49,159 Speaker 1: being able to get up there and do what do 365 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:51,159 Speaker 1: what he does. It's not like he's out there plugging 366 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:54,880 Speaker 1: Stanford like crazy or anything like that. And Stanford's requirements 367 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 1: to get in or still Stanford's requirements to get in. 368 00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 1: So I'm just wondering, you know, what's in it for him? 369 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 1: Is it just something he loves to do, he's just 370 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 1: good at it, or because I don't think more people 371 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 1: are like I want to go to Stanford because David 372 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 1: Shaw is on set for the first round on NFL Network. 373 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 1: You know exactly I don't know exactly. Um, so how 374 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 1: would you draft? So how would you grade? Well? Okay, 375 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 1: so I said that I thought Oregon and then Stanford 376 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 1: had the second best draft and then followed by Washington 377 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:33,399 Speaker 1: and then USC Who would you how would you judge 378 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:37,960 Speaker 1: them in terms of draft picks? I know, I think 379 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:39,680 Speaker 1: that you're I think that you're dead on. I think 380 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:42,439 Speaker 1: that Washington continues to do a really really good job 381 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 1: of of getting especially their defensive players into um the 382 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 1: NFL and then leave by Atoique uh sits out the year. 383 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 1: And then I was either highest draft pick. I feel 384 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 1: like he was one of their highest draft picks, if 385 00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 1: not be Joe Joe try On was thirty second, and 386 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:05,719 Speaker 1: then forty one was Antoicke and Altorick gets to go 387 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 1: play against his his college rival in practice because they 388 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:11,639 Speaker 1: both got drafted by the Lions. Right, And what was 389 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:15,200 Speaker 1: what was the quote that Antoricke gave after he got 390 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 1: drafted that that had you cracking up and calling me, 391 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 1: oh oh yeah, he was like what did he say? 392 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 1: He was like, yeah, coaching out here, ready to fund 393 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:27,200 Speaker 1: people up or something like whether kill him. I was like, 394 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:31,919 Speaker 1: I was like, that's very interesting. And you had so 395 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 1: you had the Lions who were clearly trying to with 396 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:40,399 Speaker 1: Dan Campbell, their new head coach, get packed twelve fans 397 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:44,200 Speaker 1: to tune into their games because they draft. This is 398 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:49,120 Speaker 1: a Detroit Lions podcast now for sure, right. They drafted Pinassal, 399 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 1: then Atoicke then came back with I'm on ros st 400 00:24:54,280 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 1: Brown and Jamaar Jefferson as well, after trading for Jered Goff. Yeah, 401 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 1: trading for Jerry Goff got Tyrell Crosby on that line 402 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:11,200 Speaker 1: already too. Which which player though, were you surprised ended 403 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 1: up going much later than you thought. Well, and your 404 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:20,080 Speaker 1: player didn't get get drafted the one of the members 405 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 1: in Ralph Amsden's family. So obviously there's Khalil Tate. Then 406 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 1: there is um Josh Josh. Well, yes, yes, Josh Josh, 407 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:36,920 Speaker 1: you give me. You also give me who was Washington's 408 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 1: quarterback last year? You also gave me him? Oh yeah, 409 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:47,120 Speaker 1: so so so you have oh yeah, so you have Morris, 410 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 1: you have Khalil Tate, you have give me every Washington quarterback. 411 00:25:55,320 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 1: The who's the kid? Oh shug so so Todd Telly 412 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 1: shrugs your guy, shucks your guy. You also have who else? Oh, 413 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 1: and you have hamilcar Rashid. Yep, you're right, he did 414 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 1: not get drafted. Yeah. And and the kid from Arizona 415 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:25,720 Speaker 1: who just transferred or did he not transfer, the big 416 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 1: tall quarterback but they kept from the univers at Memphis. 417 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:35,639 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. And Granting is your guy too, So okay, 418 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:39,920 Speaker 1: so moral love. The story is if Ralph chooses you, 419 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:43,959 Speaker 1: if Ralph chooses a guy, and who did I tell 420 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 1: you I was taken? I told you? Oh and Jamar 421 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:50,199 Speaker 1: Jefferson was one of your guys, I think, right. I 422 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 1: like Jamark Jefferson. I like everything podcast, I like all 423 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:56,639 Speaker 1: these dudes, dude, So so I chose up with Gary 424 00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:59,880 Speaker 1: Brightwell Jr. Remember everybody was like, what are you talk 425 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 1: good about? You're crazy. I was like, notice, dude spectacular. 426 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 1: And then he went on bumbled three times in a game. 427 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 1: But I was like, noticed, dude's gonna be really good 428 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,960 Speaker 1: in the NFL. And I still stand by that, and 429 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,840 Speaker 1: apparently a lot of other people thought that as well. Now, 430 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 1: imagine if he didn't fumble so much in that one 431 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 1: game where he would have been drafted. Maybe, but maybe 432 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:25,639 Speaker 1: maybe it's not. Maybe with the premium on running backs 433 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:30,640 Speaker 1: um being being able to you know, NFL GM's think 434 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 1: of them as a diamond doesn't. So it's very possible 435 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 1: that nothing changed as far as where Gary bright Well 436 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 1: ultimately got picked up. But you did call he said 437 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:41,639 Speaker 1: he's gonna be NFL running back. He was drafted um 438 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 1: higher I believe than the running back that he replaced, 439 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,919 Speaker 1: which I feel like they're the same dude, so um 440 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:51,240 Speaker 1: and and I mean no, no, no, no no, no no. 441 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:55,080 Speaker 1: He was the first University of Arizona offensive player drafted 442 00:27:55,119 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 1: him like five years, which is crazy. That yeah, that 443 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 1: is technically technically they broke their streak when Tony Fields 444 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 1: got drafted out of West Virginia. But remember he left 445 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 1: because he didn't think Pat twelve was gonna have a season, 446 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 1: so he spent his final year at West Virginia and 447 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:19,360 Speaker 1: then I think he ended up in the fourth round 448 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,879 Speaker 1: or something like that. Um, which I was still super 449 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 1: excited for UM for him as well, because when he 450 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:30,239 Speaker 1: transferred he didn't know UM but Roy Lopez that that 451 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 1: one was. I was overjoyed for him. He's fantastic. I 452 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,640 Speaker 1: love his His whole family is awesome. His dad used 453 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,320 Speaker 1: to be a high school head coach and on the 454 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 1: same team before his dad quit and they all transferred. 455 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 1: You had Roy Lopez and the kill Harry Byron Murphy 456 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:49,960 Speaker 1: and Isaiah Pola. Mao, who's out? You will see who 457 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 1: you know is going to get drafted next year? Um 458 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 1: and yeah, And I mean that team was super stacked 459 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:56,719 Speaker 1: and when he quit, they all kind of dispersed all 460 00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 1: over the place. But Roy Lopez played four real good 461 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 1: years in New Mexico Stay before going to University of Arizona, 462 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:03,959 Speaker 1: and then I felt like he was their best player. 463 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 1: So kudos to him getting drafted. The one that team 464 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 1: that I thought came out looking really bad in all 465 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 1: this is Arizona State. Because yes, Frank Darby gets drafted 466 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 1: even though he didn't really contribute anything as a senior. 467 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 1: But a Sharry Crosswell declared after getting suspended after getting 468 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 1: in a fist fight with Jack Jones that went way 469 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 1: further than it needed to go. They both get suspended. 470 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 1: Sharry Crosswell just declares he's told he's probably not gonna 471 00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 1: get drafted, and he said it doesn't matter. That was 472 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 1: always the plan and I want to And that was 473 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:44,320 Speaker 1: on Speaky Devil's podcast with with Brad Denny that he 474 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:46,240 Speaker 1: had said it was always the plan. To go after 475 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:47,560 Speaker 1: three years. It has nothing to do. There is on 476 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:49,440 Speaker 1: a state. There's no ill will gear. The plan was 477 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:52,400 Speaker 1: always three years, so regardless of any hiccups, we stick 478 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:55,720 Speaker 1: to the original plan. He butt on himself. He steam 479 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 1: he didn't get picked up as a as a priority 480 00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 1: free agent or anything. Do you really do you think 481 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:02,120 Speaker 1: of that? Do you? What do you think about the 482 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 1: idea that I think? I think that's silly. So that's 483 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:11,480 Speaker 1: the thing about plans is that you make them and 484 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:15,720 Speaker 1: then you adjust after you get new information. Because you 485 00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 1: went in there blind as a high school kid, like, yeah, 486 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 1: I'm out in three years. Yeah. I had that same 487 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:26,480 Speaker 1: plan too, and then I read shirted. So then the 488 00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:30,320 Speaker 1: plan changes. Because if you aren't going to be a 489 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 1: if you aren't projected to be a third round pick 490 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:40,080 Speaker 1: or higher, you should not be leaving early going to 491 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:45,840 Speaker 1: the NFL. I I firmly believe that I would. I would. Uh. 492 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:49,840 Speaker 1: It's just bad advice because you put yourself at such 493 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:55,280 Speaker 1: a disadvantage when you are not drafted highly. Because if 494 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:58,480 Speaker 1: you are a fifth, six seventh round pick, a sprained 495 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:04,200 Speaker 1: ankle can liter really get you cut, And because you 496 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 1: don't get a chance to show how good you can 497 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:09,400 Speaker 1: be and all of that as opposed to if your 498 00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 1: second round pick or a third round pick, they've got 499 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,120 Speaker 1: so much money tied up in you that they're gonna say, 500 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:17,600 Speaker 1: oh wait, he's he's a hurt. Let's either put him 501 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:21,560 Speaker 1: on pup, stash him, put him on I R something, 502 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 1: and try to get him back because we need to 503 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,960 Speaker 1: see what we can get out of him. Fift six, 504 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,680 Speaker 1: seventh round pick. They don't have enough money invested in 505 00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:37,400 Speaker 1: you unless they really really love you. Two you know, 506 00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:40,600 Speaker 1: and you're gonna start out lower on the depth chart, 507 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:45,520 Speaker 1: which means that there's less opportunity there. So it's just 508 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:49,120 Speaker 1: a bad proposition. And the idea that the plan is 509 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:57,080 Speaker 1: the plan, that's that is uh immature thinking because it's 510 00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:00,480 Speaker 1: just there's these guys out there, George like Lawrence Guy, right, 511 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 1: Lawrence Guy left Arizona State early. He was a two 512 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:09,200 Speaker 1: thirty third overall pick, and then he bounced around the NFL, 513 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 1: so he was twenty five, started producing for the Ravens, 514 00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:16,080 Speaker 1: and then he signed multiple contracts with with the UH, 515 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:19,120 Speaker 1: the Patriots. He he has a four year, twenty million 516 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:21,440 Speaker 1: deal dollar deal that's about to come up. He's gonna 517 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 1: be eligible for another contract. And I think players look 518 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 1: at stuff like that and they say, yeah, like I'm 519 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,040 Speaker 1: I can, I can do what Lawrence Guy did. I 520 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:35,720 Speaker 1: can bet on myself. Um. And that's just not I mean, 521 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:39,440 Speaker 1: Lawrence Guy didn't have character issues. Lawrence Guy is a 522 00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:43,720 Speaker 1: dude who didn't. He was dyslexic and school wasn't really 523 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 1: for him. So when you have Lawrence Guy who is dyslexic, 524 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:55,320 Speaker 1: what's up? Oh, you went offline for a minute, and 525 00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:57,960 Speaker 1: the last thing that you said is there are guys 526 00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 1: like but Guy. Okay, I didn't know because I saw 527 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:04,440 Speaker 1: it was still recording on my end, so I didn't know. 528 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:06,960 Speaker 1: I can. I'll start over, so you don't make a 529 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:10,720 Speaker 1: note over um. But then, so I think one of 530 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:13,040 Speaker 1: the issues is you have guys like Lawrence Guy, who 531 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:17,720 Speaker 1: went to Arizona State, left early, got picked two overall 532 00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:20,240 Speaker 1: and is now in his tenth year in the NFL 533 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:23,480 Speaker 1: and is about to get a big contract coming off 534 00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:26,479 Speaker 1: his last big contract um for the for the New 535 00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:30,760 Speaker 1: England Patriots. But you know, when you're a Sharry Crosswell 536 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:32,960 Speaker 1: and you got in a fist fight and got suspended 537 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 1: then chose not to come back, people see that as 538 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,080 Speaker 1: a character issue, right Lawrence guys. Thing is he was 539 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:41,080 Speaker 1: dyslexic and college really wasn't for him anyway. So he 540 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:42,640 Speaker 1: was like, I'm not gonna learn anything here. I'm gonna 541 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:44,840 Speaker 1: go to the NFL. I'm gonna make up my career. Um. 542 00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:46,680 Speaker 1: And you can't depend on because all sorts of things 543 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:48,440 Speaker 1: can happen, and you can all sorts of dumb luck, 544 00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:52,840 Speaker 1: you know, injuries like anything can happen. Um. So this this, 545 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:55,440 Speaker 1: I don't know, man. The plan is the plan, and 546 00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:58,200 Speaker 1: that's a rough. I wish the absolute best for a 547 00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:01,200 Speaker 1: Sharry Cross well because I look at him the aim 548 00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:04,040 Speaker 1: on the same wavelength talent wise as a Javan Holland. 549 00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:07,200 Speaker 1: And so it's wild to watch Javon Holland go thirty 550 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:10,080 Speaker 1: six overall and then a Shary Cross will not even 551 00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:13,239 Speaker 1: be a free agency pickup when he probably could have 552 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:17,120 Speaker 1: gone back as a senior and been part of a 553 00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 1: massive draft class coming out of a SU next year 554 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:25,080 Speaker 1: with Jack Jones and and and Evan Fields and Chase 555 00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:29,680 Speaker 1: Lucas and all their linebackers and and possibly the quarterback 556 00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:32,640 Speaker 1: as well. So you know, I don't know, man, I 557 00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:40,719 Speaker 1: just I think that was about what do you think 558 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:45,040 Speaker 1: about USC's draft though, like the fact that they have 559 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:48,560 Speaker 1: not been putting out draft picks at the same level. 560 00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:52,080 Speaker 1: So I think about this since the in the Pack 561 00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:56,680 Speaker 1: twelve era, right, So since when the conference went from 562 00:34:56,719 --> 00:35:01,600 Speaker 1: ten teams to uh what what ten to ten to twelve? 563 00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:08,600 Speaker 1: You have, uh in terms of top ten overall draft picks, 564 00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:14,640 Speaker 1: Oregon has four, Stanford has to, USC has to cal U, 565 00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:17,560 Speaker 1: c l A, and Washington all have four. Nobody else 566 00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:22,400 Speaker 1: has one since And the thing that sticks out to 567 00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:27,640 Speaker 1: me there obviously your chess pokes pokes out at Oregon 568 00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:31,000 Speaker 1: because you know, in six drafts you got four, four 569 00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:34,520 Speaker 1: top ten picks that ain't that ain't bad. But it's 570 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:39,920 Speaker 1: USC only having two that really sticks out to me 571 00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:43,920 Speaker 1: because they were known for this. So if you are 572 00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:49,319 Speaker 1: USC and you're still getting good recruiting classes aside from 573 00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:54,319 Speaker 1: the twenty nineteen class, how do you like, how are 574 00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:58,680 Speaker 1: you okay with Clay Hilton knowing that your draft picks 575 00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:01,239 Speaker 1: are not big that meet your kids are either not 576 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:06,520 Speaker 1: being developed or something. Well, the thing with the most 577 00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:09,080 Speaker 1: recent draft in the last couple of drafts, as far 578 00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:11,480 Speaker 1: as as far as USC goes, is it's a reflection 579 00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:15,320 Speaker 1: of how they've performed on the field. They're still getting 580 00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:18,200 Speaker 1: a lot of their elite guys to the NFL. Just 581 00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:22,040 Speaker 1: if you just talk about the last four years, I mean, 582 00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:28,000 Speaker 1: Sam Donald, Ronald Jones, you know, no surprise there, UM, 583 00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:30,040 Speaker 1: and twenty nineteen they don't have a pick come off 584 00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:33,279 Speaker 1: the board until until the third round, but they still 585 00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:36,680 Speaker 1: have four guys picked UM. And I think it's just 586 00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:39,160 Speaker 1: reflective of you know, last year was really the bad 587 00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:42,719 Speaker 1: one where you had Austin Jackson, Michael Pittman than nobody else. UM. 588 00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:45,640 Speaker 1: But in this draft they had five. They probably should 589 00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:48,759 Speaker 1: have had seven. It's ramping up. I think that you 590 00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:50,960 Speaker 1: have to look at it and say that it's ramping up. 591 00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:53,880 Speaker 1: The other thing that you you would probably be encouraged 592 00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:56,600 Speaker 1: by if your USC is you see all of these 593 00:36:56,640 --> 00:37:01,320 Speaker 1: different programs all over the country hiring Alynesian coaches trying 594 00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:06,279 Speaker 1: to get a share of the market that USC for 595 00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:09,680 Speaker 1: the most part has cornered and dominated as far as 596 00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:12,680 Speaker 1: Polynesian football players coming in and being developed and ending 597 00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:15,680 Speaker 1: up in the NFL. And you look at the most 598 00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:19,480 Speaker 1: recent UM draft and you see like, Okay, they're back, 599 00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:22,080 Speaker 1: They're back getting these poly guys into the league. And 600 00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:24,960 Speaker 1: I think that that's going to UM make sure that 601 00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:28,759 Speaker 1: they continue to be a pipeline for some of the 602 00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:33,000 Speaker 1: best um Asian Pacific Islander talent in you know, even 603 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:37,480 Speaker 1: though obviously you have the schools um at Oregon and 604 00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:40,520 Speaker 1: and you've got obviously some really really good players elsewhere. 605 00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:44,160 Speaker 1: But I think that I think personally this was way 606 00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:47,839 Speaker 1: more encouraging for USC because the results still technically aren't 607 00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:50,840 Speaker 1: there on the field, and you went from having to 608 00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:54,359 Speaker 1: draft picks last year to five this year, knowing that 609 00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:56,759 Speaker 1: it could have been seven. But it was probably on 610 00:37:56,920 --> 00:38:00,560 Speaker 1: those players, um, you know, whether whether it was you 611 00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:06,279 Speaker 1: know something Tyler Vaughn's never really did what his talent like, 612 00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:09,239 Speaker 1: what what was known UM that he could do? He 613 00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:12,279 Speaker 1: never really dominated. Perhaps it was the offense. I think 614 00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:14,919 Speaker 1: he'll stick in the NFL. I think that even even 615 00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:17,000 Speaker 1: as a priority free agent. I think he'll stick in 616 00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:20,840 Speaker 1: the NFL. And the Elijah Griffin thing, I mean, honestly, 617 00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:23,120 Speaker 1: if he didn't act a fool after every single tackle 618 00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:26,160 Speaker 1: down twenty points, he probably would have heard his name 619 00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:30,480 Speaker 1: called maybe day two. Uh see. I don't think that 620 00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:35,480 Speaker 1: the antics after where I just think the production wasn't there. 621 00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:37,400 Speaker 1: I think that when you when you watched this film, 622 00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:42,120 Speaker 1: you saw he was clearly physically gifted, and you're like, 623 00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:45,800 Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know. I mean, yeah, so 624 00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:48,120 Speaker 1: I think that that's it. But yes, there may have 625 00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:50,279 Speaker 1: been some people who have been turned off by his 626 00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:55,920 Speaker 1: personality as well. Um, the next thing up is the 627 00:38:57,200 --> 00:39:00,279 Speaker 1: you're gonna have the well the Coege football play off. 628 00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:07,000 Speaker 1: Recently they had a subcommittee that is exploring options for 629 00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:12,440 Speaker 1: expansion and that's gonna happen as early as so it 630 00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:15,759 Speaker 1: won't be this year or the next year, but thee 631 00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:20,160 Speaker 1: and there are scenarios that go six, eight, ten, twelve, 632 00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:25,640 Speaker 1: and sixteen teams. They're all under consideration. Well that's a 633 00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:30,840 Speaker 1: great thing because the Pact twelve, which has a perception problem, 634 00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:35,120 Speaker 1: needs to at least get one automatic bid because eight 635 00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:39,879 Speaker 1: teams with the power five getting automatic bids plus two 636 00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:42,520 Speaker 1: at large bids and the highest group of five teams, 637 00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:46,040 Speaker 1: that seems like the best scenario to meet. But obviously 638 00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:49,480 Speaker 1: they're involving things from six all the way up to 639 00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:53,239 Speaker 1: six team, which would various ways. If it's six, then 640 00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:56,560 Speaker 1: the top two seats would get buys. Same thing with ten, 641 00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:00,520 Speaker 1: you know, so there are different scenario those with it, 642 00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:03,400 Speaker 1: which I like all the teams having to play because 643 00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:06,880 Speaker 1: then that gives you more options for for upsets. But anyways, 644 00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:12,799 Speaker 1: I do believe though that the Conference has to lobby 645 00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:16,279 Speaker 1: and has to have some voice. Well, the problem is 646 00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:18,760 Speaker 1: is that the committee is gonna meet in the fall. 647 00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:25,320 Speaker 1: They're they're gonna make a decision. I think on the 648 00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:29,319 Speaker 1: June twenty two like that that's when everything kind of 649 00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:34,160 Speaker 1: goes goes down where that's when the official gathering is. 650 00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:38,319 Speaker 1: So all of this lobbying has to be done before then. 651 00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:42,360 Speaker 1: But the Pack twelve doesn't have a commissioner in place 652 00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:48,000 Speaker 1: yet to lobby on their behalf. And also how much 653 00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:51,399 Speaker 1: sway would that person have in the room if they're 654 00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:54,439 Speaker 1: a brand new commissioner. So I think that the PAC 655 00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:59,640 Speaker 1: twelve again has found itself in a disadvantageous situation. But 656 00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:02,440 Speaker 1: you have to find a way to make it work. 657 00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:07,759 Speaker 1: I agree, I agree, I don't. I don't really have 658 00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:11,239 Speaker 1: anything to add. I just think that, um, you've you've 659 00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:13,400 Speaker 1: nailed it, you whittled it down to the Pact twelve 660 00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:18,960 Speaker 1: has a perception problem over anything else. I'm buying into that. Um, 661 00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:24,120 Speaker 1: I think that the perception problem, however, can result in 662 00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:29,240 Speaker 1: a deficit in many other areas, whether it's talent, the product. 663 00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:33,560 Speaker 1: I think everything can suffer because the perception problem can 664 00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:36,799 Speaker 1: filter into the amount of money that a sponsor is 665 00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:42,160 Speaker 1: willing to offer you. It can filter into the negotiations 666 00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:46,760 Speaker 1: with different television networks and streaming services. It definitely already 667 00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:50,719 Speaker 1: has filtered into the way that local recruits see staying 668 00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:54,880 Speaker 1: on the West Coast. Um. So the perception problem can 669 00:41:54,920 --> 00:42:01,200 Speaker 1: create other legitimate problems when perception becomes reality. Yeah, so, 670 00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:04,839 Speaker 1: which which iteration of it? Do you think you would 671 00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:08,600 Speaker 1: like to see? You tell? I mean, you tell me 672 00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:12,759 Speaker 1: at this point all all I can like, I'm I 673 00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:14,560 Speaker 1: think I'm trying to be humble enough to say that 674 00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:18,160 Speaker 1: I don't know, like I don't I don't know what 675 00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:22,000 Speaker 1: is best. I don't know who will be best. I 676 00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:25,080 Speaker 1: just want somebody who does the things that you've outlined 677 00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:33,279 Speaker 1: as far as prioritizing football unapologetically. UM. And I think 678 00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:38,480 Speaker 1: that everything else will emanate from there on every possible um, 679 00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:42,880 Speaker 1: in every possible scenario, once you get somebody in with 680 00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:46,000 Speaker 1: the right mindset who is not a bullshitter the way 681 00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:48,840 Speaker 1: that Larry Scott was a bullshitter, you know. Uh, And 682 00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:50,600 Speaker 1: I don't care if it's one people, I don't I 683 00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:51,840 Speaker 1: don't care. I don't care if it's one person, I 684 00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:53,680 Speaker 1: don't care if it's two people. I've seen a lot 685 00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:55,720 Speaker 1: of people laugh at the idea of the Pact twelve 686 00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:59,319 Speaker 1: splitting up the duties. Um. You and I floated that 687 00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:02,000 Speaker 1: that could be a potential possibility a year and a 688 00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:04,560 Speaker 1: half ago, when when we laughed at the idea that 689 00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:07,640 Speaker 1: Larry Scott was doing two different jobs. So I don't 690 00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:10,040 Speaker 1: hate that either, as long as as long as somebody 691 00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:12,680 Speaker 1: comes in and understands where the bread is buttered and 692 00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:15,799 Speaker 1: then is unapologetically all about the pack twelve all the time, 693 00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:19,960 Speaker 1: listens to the athletic directors and has connections with people 694 00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:23,399 Speaker 1: will help this league get seen. I think everything else 695 00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:25,120 Speaker 1: falls into place, and I just don't. I don't think 696 00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:26,960 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be the one that comes up with the 697 00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:32,080 Speaker 1: prize winning idea. Well. Um, according to John Wilner, there 698 00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:35,759 Speaker 1: are basically they're down to a couple of candidates, and 699 00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:40,279 Speaker 1: they may be Oliver Luck, Andrew Lustad, who's been a 700 00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:43,440 Speaker 1: commissioner and all this stuff. He was involved with the 701 00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:47,480 Speaker 1: A A F and other places. And this guy named 702 00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:52,680 Speaker 1: Randy Randy Frere, and Randy Freer is head of Hulu 703 00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:55,960 Speaker 1: right now, and before that he was with Fox Sports, 704 00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:59,840 Speaker 1: and he was with Fox News and Net Network. He 705 00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:02,320 Speaker 1: he's been all over the place and he's built brands. 706 00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:06,960 Speaker 1: That's the guy that if you're gonna split up two jobs, 707 00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:10,120 Speaker 1: Randy Frere has to be one of one of your guys. 708 00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:15,120 Speaker 1: And I don't I don't really have a felling on 709 00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:20,120 Speaker 1: Andrew Luck, I mean on on Oliver Luck. But I 710 00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:23,880 Speaker 1: do know that the Randy fair part of this equation 711 00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:28,080 Speaker 1: sounds really really good because he was in charge of 712 00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:31,319 Speaker 1: taking Hulu from just oh hey, you can come on 713 00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:33,640 Speaker 1: here and watch some shows too. Now you have live 714 00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:38,799 Speaker 1: TV subscriptions. They've partnered with you know, HBO, Max and 715 00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:45,120 Speaker 1: Showtime and all these other all these other big media 716 00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:50,440 Speaker 1: conglomerates to build something that's fantastic, that's actually outperforming I 717 00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:56,839 Speaker 1: think YouTube TV at this point. So how so why 718 00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:59,680 Speaker 1: would you want anybody else? I would pay them at 719 00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:07,160 Speaker 1: pay the man. He's my neat and my dream scenario 720 00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:13,920 Speaker 1: Melinda Gates takes this divorce money buys my parent company 721 00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:17,360 Speaker 1: at Rivals since we're up for sale, again, Verizon is 722 00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:23,000 Speaker 1: offloading Yahoo and a O L and uh, Melinda Gates 723 00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:31,200 Speaker 1: buys Yahoo and buys equity in the pact twelves and 724 00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:35,520 Speaker 1: then just let's Yahoo become the free streaming partner of 725 00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:38,239 Speaker 1: the Pack twelve so that it's available to everybody all 726 00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:41,399 Speaker 1: the time. She doesn't need the money anyway, Just let 727 00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:46,200 Speaker 1: the people have the product, and then she will be 728 00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:49,640 Speaker 1: the person who saved the Pack twelve and saved all 729 00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:52,800 Speaker 1: of the kids with mosquito nets. She'll be a twice 730 00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:57,840 Speaker 1: over hero, Melinda Gates save us. So Melinda Gates is 731 00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:01,920 Speaker 1: your answer to save the Pac twelve. Huh unless Mackenzie 732 00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:08,719 Speaker 1: Bezos wants to wants to throw her so so, so, 733 00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:11,960 Speaker 1: who's supposed to take one for the team to save 734 00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:15,960 Speaker 1: the back Twell, I mean I'm not taking one for 735 00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:21,120 Speaker 1: the team. I will, you know what I will? Uh? 736 00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:24,560 Speaker 1: If they want to hire me at this point, there's 737 00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:26,520 Speaker 1: no way I could do a worse job. Just give 738 00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:29,319 Speaker 1: me six months. Give me six months. I'll take one 739 00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:32,760 Speaker 1: tenth to the pay of of of Larry Scott and 740 00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:36,279 Speaker 1: and if it doesn't work, then you you'll have you 741 00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:39,000 Speaker 1: You have six more months to find your replacement, because 742 00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:41,239 Speaker 1: they haven't been able to find somebody by now, I 743 00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:46,600 Speaker 1: feel like they're messing up. Yeah, they're just quote unquote 744 00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:50,320 Speaker 1: doing their due diligence. And why all these people keep 745 00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:53,160 Speaker 1: coming out and saying I'm no longer in contention or 746 00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:56,239 Speaker 1: thanks but no thanks. It looks worse when you get 747 00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:59,400 Speaker 1: like eight nine people who are like, hey, I appreciate 748 00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:03,840 Speaker 1: you guys thinking I mean, but I'm focused on what 749 00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:07,280 Speaker 1: I'm focused on. Every time something like that happens, because 750 00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:11,040 Speaker 1: because they all got raises, they all got raises. And 751 00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:14,760 Speaker 1: then it also says hold up that they're saying, listen, 752 00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:17,839 Speaker 1: I know you're gonna offer me a really good You're 753 00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:21,839 Speaker 1: gonna offer me really really good money. But if I 754 00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:24,319 Speaker 1: think that this thing is, I think that that may 755 00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:29,080 Speaker 1: be indicative of where people feel like the conference is 756 00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:31,719 Speaker 1: right now and how much work it has to do 757 00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:35,000 Speaker 1: and if it can even be done, because somebody may 758 00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:38,440 Speaker 1: be saying, nah, that's too much work. I don't want 759 00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:40,920 Speaker 1: to sign up for for for that, like I wanna 760 00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:43,800 Speaker 1: I want to be Phil Jackson and not Larry Brown. 761 00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:47,960 Speaker 1: This is a Larry Brown situation right now. Yeah, we 762 00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:53,240 Speaker 1: we just we just interviewed U c L a graduate 763 00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:57,560 Speaker 1: Rachel Louba. Maybe she's up for the task. Hey, I 764 00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:01,360 Speaker 1: wouldn't listen. I would hire Rachel Luba before I hired 765 00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:07,120 Speaker 1: Larry Scott. I tell you that damn much. Um So anyways, So, 766 00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:09,560 Speaker 1: but we have a bunch of questions, A bunch of 767 00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:13,480 Speaker 1: email questions came in and I will check for reviews 768 00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:17,200 Speaker 1: while you start with those. Okay, So I'm mad at 769 00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:20,600 Speaker 1: Unafraid show dot com. Make sure to email us your questions. 770 00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:23,200 Speaker 1: We will always address them on the show. Um. We 771 00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:25,560 Speaker 1: talk about reviews and we take listener questions here. It's 772 00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:28,160 Speaker 1: what we do. I had someone who I know listens 773 00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:30,120 Speaker 1: every single time we put one of these podcasts out 774 00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:33,360 Speaker 1: say that reading the reviews is a giant waste of 775 00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:36,719 Speaker 1: their time. And while I apologize, we actually appreciate our 776 00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:39,200 Speaker 1: listeners and that's something that we're never gonna not do. 777 00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:41,920 Speaker 1: So I'll make sure to just consider this your alert 778 00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:44,800 Speaker 1: if you don't like hearing feedback from the actual fans 779 00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:47,440 Speaker 1: of the conference. Now is the time fast forward to 780 00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:50,640 Speaker 1: the end of the show. Um but, uh, we got 781 00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:52,600 Speaker 1: a bunch in here that have collected over time. And 782 00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:54,279 Speaker 1: I'm mad at on Afraid show dot com. So I 783 00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:56,799 Speaker 1: figured let's go through. Let's get to some of them. 784 00:48:57,080 --> 00:48:59,480 Speaker 1: A lot of these touch on every single team. George, 785 00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:02,840 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna hoose these questions to you. Let me 786 00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:06,200 Speaker 1: know what you think. UM, here you go. First question. 787 00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:09,920 Speaker 1: Pat Chun recently said that this Washington State football team 788 00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:14,320 Speaker 1: is the most talented UM that they've ever had. Max Borgie. 789 00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:16,319 Speaker 1: They're running back who didn't get to play a lot 790 00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:19,640 Speaker 1: last year, but his returning this year. Um was just 791 00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:22,080 Speaker 1: quoted as saying, I am back to be the best 792 00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:25,360 Speaker 1: running back in the country. Are you buying or selling 793 00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:29,760 Speaker 1: the Washington State hype coming from uh there? They're running 794 00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:34,240 Speaker 1: back and they're athletic director. I am one hundred percent 795 00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:38,759 Speaker 1: selling it because right now they don't have a quarterback. 796 00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:44,200 Speaker 1: Their best quarterback is Jaden Delora, and he isn't playing 797 00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:48,000 Speaker 1: right now, so he got a d U I what 798 00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:51,759 Speaker 1: a few months ago. We don't know. His status is 799 00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:57,520 Speaker 1: in flux. And Jared Guarantano is a starting quarterback right now. 800 00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:00,840 Speaker 1: And if Jared Guarantano, who was at tennis See Grad, 801 00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:05,040 Speaker 1: transferred there, I remember Ralph was saying, he was like, Yo, 802 00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:11,080 Speaker 1: are you serious, Like you're going to have uh that 803 00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:17,840 Speaker 1: Washington State brought in Jared Garantino and then UM and 804 00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:22,200 Speaker 1: then Jaden Delora gets a d U. I I don't 805 00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:26,759 Speaker 1: think that those things are necessarily are not related. But 806 00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:30,120 Speaker 1: I told you Jared Guarantano was bad there there spring 807 00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:33,000 Speaker 1: game me through a pick or a pick six first, 808 00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:36,120 Speaker 1: all gonna play And when you go on the message boards, 809 00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:39,040 Speaker 1: you have not seen positive things about what's been going 810 00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:43,920 Speaker 1: on in practice with him. So while Washington State maybe talented, 811 00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:47,719 Speaker 1: more talented than they've been recently at a bunch of positions, 812 00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:51,799 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter if you don't have a quarterback. We 813 00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:55,400 Speaker 1: did not have a great track record of grad transfer 814 00:50:55,480 --> 00:51:00,880 Speaker 1: quarterbacks coming into the pack twelve UM. There are some 815 00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:06,360 Speaker 1: people who put decent seasons together. Jacob Eeson decent um. 816 00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:10,480 Speaker 1: I would say that Davis Mills or Davis Webb. Davis Mills, 817 00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:17,120 Speaker 1: Davis Webb, decent um. I we just had a transfer 818 00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:20,319 Speaker 1: into Utah this last year that did not work out, 819 00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:25,600 Speaker 1: and obviously they've moved on from him. UM transfer quarterbacks 820 00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:27,680 Speaker 1: coming from out of conference, and I would even i'd 821 00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:29,560 Speaker 1: even you know, I know that there's some promise there, 822 00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:31,839 Speaker 1: but I'd throw Anthony Brown in there as not being 823 00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:35,080 Speaker 1: all that impressive yet Trisan Jevia is not being all 824 00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:39,000 Speaker 1: that impressive yet. The all these quarterbacks that are coming 825 00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:41,960 Speaker 1: from outside the conference into the conference have yet to 826 00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:45,520 Speaker 1: really wow me. And maybe maybe I'm off face here, 827 00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:48,279 Speaker 1: but that's how I feel about it. UM, and I 828 00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:52,000 Speaker 1: think that jar Guaranton is not going to be the 829 00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:56,680 Speaker 1: guy that breaks that streak in my opinion. No, No, 830 00:51:56,880 --> 00:52:01,239 Speaker 1: he's he's he's not. Dude. He was inconsistent and you know, 831 00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:07,120 Speaker 1: average at tennis Tennessee. So think about this. Tennessee doesn't 832 00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:11,160 Speaker 1: have a quarterback and they didn't want Jared Garantano back 833 00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:14,919 Speaker 1: like they were like, listen, we we We've had four 834 00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:18,280 Speaker 1: years of this. We don't need the super senior year too. 835 00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:21,600 Speaker 1: So that's what it what it is. Yeah, I think 836 00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:26,360 Speaker 1: that there's more talent on Washington States offense outside of 837 00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:31,040 Speaker 1: quarterback then maybe there has been in a really long time, 838 00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:34,359 Speaker 1: especially when you consider Travell Harris is still on the team, 839 00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:37,400 Speaker 1: Ernard Bell still on team, Max Borgi is is going 840 00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:39,440 Speaker 1: to be paired with the other talented running back that 841 00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:43,520 Speaker 1: Dion McIntosh. That UM had some flashes last year, so 842 00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:46,200 Speaker 1: they gotta be really excited. But what is not exciting 843 00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:48,839 Speaker 1: is when you have guys like Jamira Calvin and Hunter 844 00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:52,520 Speaker 1: McGinnis transfer out of the program and they still don't 845 00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:55,560 Speaker 1: have destinations yet. How bad did it have to be 846 00:52:55,800 --> 00:53:00,239 Speaker 1: for them in that situation to bounce without an where 847 00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:04,800 Speaker 1: to go, especially to talented guys like that, And so, UM, 848 00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:07,840 Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm I'm gonna sell on this. The 849 00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:12,160 Speaker 1: Max Borgie thing is interesting to me because you were 850 00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:15,160 Speaker 1: all about hyping Max Max Borgie when he wasn't out 851 00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:17,080 Speaker 1: there saying that he was the best in the country. 852 00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:18,759 Speaker 1: Now he's out here saying that he's the best in 853 00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:22,360 Speaker 1: the country. Does that make you back off a little bit, George, 854 00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:27,520 Speaker 1: since he doesn't need a hype man anymore. Uh, Well, 855 00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:33,799 Speaker 1: I've always thought that Max Borgi could could potentially be good. Yeah. 856 00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:36,960 Speaker 1: I mean, is he even gonna start? Is he even 857 00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:40,120 Speaker 1: going to get the majority that carries now? Yes, yes, 858 00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:43,239 Speaker 1: he's going to get you think? Okay? Yeah, okay? Absolutely? 859 00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:49,520 Speaker 1: Um alright, so next question, Okay, this one, this one, 860 00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:52,320 Speaker 1: I like, I think this is a really good one. Um. 861 00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:55,640 Speaker 1: Who has the better history recent history? So just their 862 00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:58,520 Speaker 1: time in the pack twelve? So you can't you can't 863 00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:01,040 Speaker 1: account for any of the time before that? Who has 864 00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:04,359 Speaker 1: the better recent history at defensive line. Who would you 865 00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:13,959 Speaker 1: take Utah or University of Washington? Why would Why would 866 00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:18,520 Speaker 1: Oregon not be an option there? I think that I 867 00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:20,600 Speaker 1: think they're just trying to compare between the two, and 868 00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:26,400 Speaker 1: first of all, probably ok yeah, I would probably say 869 00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:29,600 Speaker 1: I would probably say that Oregon. If we're talking about 870 00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:32,560 Speaker 1: who's had the best defensive line over the last ten 871 00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:36,080 Speaker 1: years of PAC twelve play, Oregon belongs in the conversation. 872 00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:40,560 Speaker 1: But definitely er Eric Armstead, who's one of the highest 873 00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:45,080 Speaker 1: paid defensive lineman in the league. Uh, DeForest Buckner, who's 874 00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:50,480 Speaker 1: all pro. You have Kebon Thibodeaux who's balling right right now, 875 00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:53,560 Speaker 1: and you've had other guys make make rosters and all 876 00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:56,120 Speaker 1: of that stuff in the NFL too, So yeah, I 877 00:54:56,600 --> 00:55:01,400 Speaker 1: would have to say the Oregon Ducks. What aside from that, 878 00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:07,440 Speaker 1: I would probably go with Utah. And and this has 879 00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:11,120 Speaker 1: nothing to do with Washington hate. Uh. This has to 880 00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:14,560 Speaker 1: do with Utah has put a lot of guys in 881 00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:18,120 Speaker 1: the league. If we were going D B S, I 882 00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:22,400 Speaker 1: would obviously I would choose Washington, but for the D line, 883 00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:27,200 Speaker 1: I would have to go with Utah. Okay, So, what 884 00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:29,279 Speaker 1: what do you think puts Utah over the top. Is 885 00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:34,239 Speaker 1: it the most recent, like the Lucky Poet, Yeah, the 886 00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:38,000 Speaker 1: the John Pennsini, that that whole group, because I feel like, 887 00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:40,879 Speaker 1: I feel like if you're just doing it based off 888 00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:44,400 Speaker 1: of the University of Washington players who have been drafted 889 00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:49,320 Speaker 1: up against Utah players who have been drafted, it's pretty close. 890 00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:54,320 Speaker 1: It's pretty close. You have just this is just offensive 891 00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:58,400 Speaker 1: linemen that were drafted in in the last we'll do 892 00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:02,359 Speaker 1: like ten ten years. So for Washington you've got Levi 893 00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:11,359 Speaker 1: Anto Rique, Um, You've got Greg Gaines, Vida Vella, Um, 894 00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:16,759 Speaker 1: Elijah Qualls, Danny Shelton, that's a really good one, UM, 895 00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:22,440 Speaker 1: Alameda tomu um and then that yeah, and then Daniel 896 00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:29,080 Speaker 1: Teo Nasim that takes us back ten ten drafts. And 897 00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:33,840 Speaker 1: then for uh, for Utah, um, we got Lucky Poet, 898 00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:39,880 Speaker 1: John Panasini, Um Bradley and I and that was just 899 00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:44,680 Speaker 1: off their most recent. Um you have if you're going 900 00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:50,080 Speaker 1: back a few years, Kyle fits Kylie fits I said 901 00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:57,799 Speaker 1: that wrong, Um, Joe Krueger's star low delay. Um. It's 902 00:56:57,840 --> 00:57:00,440 Speaker 1: not that it's honestly, it's not that many. Actually, I 903 00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:02,960 Speaker 1: would put when you read off all the names. I 904 00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:06,000 Speaker 1: would have to go with Washington because they've had higher 905 00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:08,440 Speaker 1: picks and they've had some guys who have been really 906 00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:11,040 Speaker 1: good in the league as well. Um, I think we 907 00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:15,279 Speaker 1: got time for one more Ralph. Okay, all right, so 908 00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:19,560 Speaker 1: let's go. Uh, let's see if I can find um 909 00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:22,760 Speaker 1: the best one. Okay, here we go. What does Chip 910 00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:26,200 Speaker 1: Kelly need to do this year to win the Pact 911 00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:28,840 Speaker 1: twelve South? First of all, is it possible? And second 912 00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:33,200 Speaker 1: what would there? Yes, it is possible, dude. I'm the 913 00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:37,600 Speaker 1: same man who two years ago was like Ralph, was like, 914 00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:39,880 Speaker 1: they're gonna look good. They're only gonna win one one 915 00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:44,240 Speaker 1: more game, and they won four. And then last year 916 00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:46,240 Speaker 1: I was like, this team is going to be better. 917 00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:50,120 Speaker 1: Their defense, their defense is going to be really good 918 00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:53,280 Speaker 1: this year in u c l A. So they can 919 00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:57,120 Speaker 1: win the Pact twelve South provided that Dorrian Thompson Robinson 920 00:57:57,480 --> 00:58:02,360 Speaker 1: plays well, that he's not you know, three plays, Uh 921 00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:05,520 Speaker 1: that sorry that he's not two plays, and you're like, yo, 922 00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:08,480 Speaker 1: that played that, dudes, an NFL player, And then one 923 00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:11,080 Speaker 1: player you're like, okay, that was solid. That was you know, 924 00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:13,920 Speaker 1: average quarterback play, and then another player where you're like, 925 00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:17,480 Speaker 1: what the fun was that that was trash. He should 926 00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:20,080 Speaker 1: not be on the field. So if as long as 927 00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:22,920 Speaker 1: he can turn that what the fun was that into 928 00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:27,120 Speaker 1: just all right, that was all right, then they can 929 00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:30,000 Speaker 1: win the Pack twelve South because nobody in the Pack 930 00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:33,400 Speaker 1: twelveth South is going undefeated. U C. L A is 931 00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:39,040 Speaker 1: USC is under coached and under developed, and that the 932 00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:41,760 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen class is going to be playing either a 933 00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:47,200 Speaker 1: big factor in terms of playing or not playing either way. 934 00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:50,960 Speaker 1: So yeah, so I see like you see l A 935 00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:54,960 Speaker 1: to win the South. Do you think that they? Um, 936 00:58:55,720 --> 00:58:57,440 Speaker 1: do you think chip Kelly gets his first out of 937 00:58:57,480 --> 00:59:03,919 Speaker 1: conference win? They they got Home's at home, President State 938 00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:08,120 Speaker 1: at home. Absolutely, they went at least two out of 939 00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:11,439 Speaker 1: those three games. At least they might knock LSU off. 940 00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:16,480 Speaker 1: Do you do you think the whispers start about chip 941 00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:19,880 Speaker 1: Kelly if they don't beat Todd Graham in Hawaiian? Yes, 942 00:59:20,040 --> 00:59:23,360 Speaker 1: and then and they should if they don't beat Hawaii, 943 00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:26,280 Speaker 1: Like if they don't be Hawaii and who did you say, 944 00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:29,880 Speaker 1: Fresno State or San Diego? How they have Hawaii and 945 00:59:30,120 --> 00:59:34,040 Speaker 1: l s US. They're opening two games, both at home, 946 00:59:34,080 --> 00:59:35,760 Speaker 1: and then they got a two week break going into 947 00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:39,320 Speaker 1: Fresno State at home, dude, they must beat Hawaii and 948 00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:42,240 Speaker 1: Fresno State and look service and look at even if 949 00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:45,000 Speaker 1: they lose to l s U. They need to look okay. 950 00:59:45,120 --> 00:59:47,680 Speaker 1: They need to look okay because if they get house 951 00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:51,120 Speaker 1: like they did against Oklahoma, because Oklahoma is expected to 952 00:59:51,120 --> 00:59:53,479 Speaker 1: be you know, Oklahoma was one of the better teams 953 00:59:53,480 --> 00:59:57,160 Speaker 1: in the country that year and they were rebuilding. If 954 00:59:57,160 --> 01:00:00,479 Speaker 1: they get housed, that ain't gonna be a good good look. 955 01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:03,920 Speaker 1: But if they compete and lose, now everybody can live 956 01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:09,360 Speaker 1: with that. They have, uh, they have scored exactly fourteen 957 01:00:09,400 --> 01:00:13,520 Speaker 1: points in three straight out of conference losses. You know, 958 01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:17,680 Speaker 1: hopefully they score more than fourteen and and and don't 959 01:00:17,720 --> 01:00:20,560 Speaker 1: make Todd Graham look like he belongs back in the 960 01:00:20,600 --> 01:00:23,840 Speaker 1: pack twelve, because that's gonna be that'd be super embarrassing 961 01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:26,280 Speaker 1: for for Todd Graham to come back in and start 962 01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:29,400 Speaker 1: coming up on teams. Dude, that would be one of 963 01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:34,480 Speaker 1: the worst case scenarios for the conference. Um. And I 964 01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:37,360 Speaker 1: know we still have some some emails, but we will 965 01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:41,080 Speaker 1: continue to get to those on every single podcast. You guys, 966 01:00:41,080 --> 01:00:43,040 Speaker 1: make sure that you guys continue to send them in. 967 01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:46,160 Speaker 1: I'm mad at Unafraid Show dot com hit us up 968 01:00:46,960 --> 01:00:50,480 Speaker 1: two nine, three, seven, five for seven on the phone, 969 01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:53,480 Speaker 1: on the text dos SO line, hit us up, Hit 970 01:00:53,560 --> 01:00:55,760 Speaker 1: us up on Twitter. Make sure you share the podcast, 971 01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:58,280 Speaker 1: tell a friend about it. Peace out, Catch you guys. 972 01:00:58,320 --> 01:00:59,120 Speaker 1: Next episode.