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Speaker 1: Eda Steak is that woo woom? And them and Tye.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Soliverbal boys and girls. My name

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Speaker 2: is ty Hildebrand and that fine gentleman over there, the one,

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Speaker 2: the only, always, the incomparable Dan Rubinstein sird is week nine.

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Speaker 2: It is week nine. It is week nine. How are you?

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Speaker 1: I'm good. You told me that we're going fast today,

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Speaker 1: so I'm just gonna run through my picks right now.

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Speaker 1: I've got Oregon minus seventeen. I've got Illinois mine seven

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Speaker 1: I'm good as always. It's very important to me. Soliverble

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Speaker 2: I don't have to do it now.

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Speaker 1: It's very important to me to do my best to

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Speaker 1: nail the weekly nickname, perhaps more than studying injury reports

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Speaker 1: or something like that. Injury sports are tricky. Coaches always

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Speaker 1: say day to day, game time decision, but I actually

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Speaker 1: was locked in on one and then in the shower,

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Speaker 1: I said, you know what, no I had found a

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Speaker 1: sound in everything. And I said, you know what no

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Speaker 1: I had said because there were so many home dogs,

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Speaker 1: dog of the show, samoy Ad Saturday.

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Speaker 2: Right, We've done that big for you.

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Speaker 1: I know we have big fluffy lines for home dogs,

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Speaker 1: howl and how but like I'm just I'm not going

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Speaker 1: to go back on our good friends at Yako's clearly

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Speaker 1: So I was thinking about the matchups where we have

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Speaker 1: all of these there's pseudo rivalries, rivalries where teams are

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Speaker 1: kind of deep dogs sometimes at home, sometimes on the road.

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Speaker 1: You look at Florida, Georgia and Michigan Michigan State, and

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Speaker 1: I don't know, we've had we've had some struggles early

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Speaker 1: Right there some rough going for a lot of these

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Speaker 1: teams as underdogs. And then I said to myself. What

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Speaker 1: better time than now with a bright light, with a

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Speaker 1: big stage. It's Halloween weekend, which is always an incredible

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Speaker 1: time for college football. What better time than now to

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Speaker 1: channel your inner Channing Tatum and step up.

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Speaker 2: I'm fighting for something that's real for the first time

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Speaker 1: Come on, it's step up Saturday.

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Speaker 2: Step up. It's not bad. It's not bad. It's not bad.

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Speaker 2: For a great number of teams though this weekend, as

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Speaker 2: feels insurmountable. Whether it's Penn State or Kentucky, or Michigan

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Speaker 2: hell will throw that? Yeah? These are intimidating opponents with

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Speaker 2: to the heights of the sport. Right, hm hmm. What

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Speaker 2: would happen if we saw an unlikely upset in Week nine? Dan?

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Speaker 2: What what would happen? What would happen?

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Speaker 1: It would be another college football season?

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Speaker 2: What would happen if one of those top teams went down?

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Speaker 2: However improbable it may sound? Yeah, who changed the world?

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Speaker 2: Who change it? Blow my mind? Blow your mind? Blow

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Speaker 1: Okay, you're gonna sell this.

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Speaker 2: It is Slay the Dragon Saturday. That's a dragon. That's

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Speaker 1: If you give people the choice between dragons and Channing Tatum,

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Speaker 1: the way, six Step Up movies. Six of them means

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Speaker 1: Can I be the onbuds Dan for just one real

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Speaker 1: I'll know you're an outsider when you go that second

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Speaker 2: I like it. I like it. I like it all right.

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Speaker 2: So look, Week nine, man, Week nine is loaded. Week

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Speaker 2: it's a great week. I think the move here is

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Speaker 1: You're seeing essentially, you're seeing the possibility of the afternoon

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Speaker 1: I ain't that smart.

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Speaker 2: Let's dive in, Dan and time to help any of

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Speaker 1: Does it involve Ohio State or Michigan? It does involve Ooh,

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Speaker 2: to twenty sixteen to find the last time Penn State one.

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Speaker 2: think there are two very simplistic ways of looking at

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Speaker 1: Well, considering there are two hosts, I think we've got them.

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Speaker 2: The first is that people are gonna say Penn State's

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Speaker 2: The second is, well, Ohio State hasn't played a competent

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Speaker 1: Who is, by the way, the best offense Ohio State

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Speaker 2: I'm saying it's it's gonna be Penn State. Sure, thus

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Speaker 2: Right, So they haven't played a competent offense all year.

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Speaker 2: So tough place to play. They're gonna win, But the

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Speaker 2: cover sixteen in Beaver Stadium. I those are the two

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Speaker 2: Which side of the fence are you on? If at all?

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Speaker 1: Dan, I'm leaning more on the It is a good

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Speaker 1: Here's my justification. Penn State's offense is not altogether dependable.

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Speaker 1: when and I guess, is this not a white out? Technically?

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Speaker 1: I saw it. Notre Dame fielded on offense and has since.

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Speaker 1: I am in on Penn State. This game is always

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Speaker 1: a little bit sneaky close, right Ty. I'm sure you're

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Speaker 1: about to make that point. And maybe on game day,

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Speaker 1: maybe on Big Noon, Big ten, they're going to say

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Speaker 1: this was going to be closer than the experts are saying.

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Speaker 1: Guess what, Ty, I'm the expert. It's going to be close.

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Speaker 1: Penn State covers this spread boom.

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Speaker 2: I like it. I like it. Yeah. I mean, look,

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Speaker 2: That's just the way this is going to go.

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Speaker 1: Well, they the second half of the Notre Dame game,

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Speaker 2: That's not who they will be in this game. Either.

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Speaker 1: Does anybody do anything as consistently successful as James Franklin

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Man, they've gotten especially up front. Those

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Speaker 2: That's all twelve o'clock ESPN. It is TCU minus seven

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Speaker 1: What time is kickoff? What time o'clock, twelve o'clock. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Yeah. What what we know here is that West Virginia

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Speaker 1: That is a problem very on calendar.

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Speaker 2: Thank you. TCU is also not the ton of team

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Speaker 1: You're all of these points are right now. A couple

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Speaker 1: It gets back to the underthink expressively, how many points

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Speaker 1: They scored it against Baylor, You're absolutely right, but consistently

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Speaker 1: But by the way, I am not going to toot

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Speaker 2: I get it. I get it. To me, this feels

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Speaker 2: So we disagree, but disagree. Also high noon on ABC

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Speaker 2: go watch the game. We just talked about the TCUs

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Speaker 2: Virginia one. Don't watch this game because this is going

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Speaker 2: to be well, it's going to be frustrating. It's going

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Speaker 2: to be two teams that have the ball four or

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Speaker 2: five times a half. That's what this game is. It's

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Speaker 2: exactly what this game is. The template here, the template again,

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Speaker 2: I emphasize Dan, I'm feeling this very passionately. The template here.

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Speaker 2: If you watch this game, each team is going to

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Speaker 2: get the ball ten times. There gonna get the ball

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Speaker 2: ten times. Neither defense is particularly strong against the run,

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Speaker 2: so we're going to see a lot of that. Garrett

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Speaker 2: Schrader's probably the X factor. But Sean Tucker, Sean Tucker

445
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Speaker 2: and whatever Syracuse decides to do with him, that will

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Speaker 2: be what determines this game. They only gave him the

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Speaker 2: ball ten times against Clemson. Why I don't know. I

448
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Speaker 2: guess they just felt like it. Yeah, I don't know

449
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Speaker 2: if you pissed somebody off in practice or what happened,

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Speaker 2: but they only five rushes, five passes, Thanks for coming out.

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Speaker 2: Mm hm. I would presume they're going to do They're

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Speaker 2: gonna give him the ball a little bit more in

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Speaker 2: this game. Not gonna do that again, but whatever overthink

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Speaker 2: express was going on against Clemson, as long as you

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Speaker 2: get away from that, they'll be fine.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 2: I would feed him early, I would feed him often.

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Speaker 2: I think that could be enough to just win the

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Speaker 2: field position game and back Notre Dame up, even if

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Speaker 2: they're not converting it into points. Notre Dame is very

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Speaker 2: limited with how they can beat you right now. They're

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Speaker 2: very limited with how they can beat you. That being said,

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Speaker 2: I still think you got to go points here because

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Speaker 2: these are two teams that are going to play a

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Speaker 2: rock fight. If you're giving me points, I don't care

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Speaker 2: where it is, I don't care who's playing, I don't

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Speaker 2: care what the situation is. There are not gonna be

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Speaker 2: a lot of points in this game. The over under

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Speaker 2: is forty seven at the under. Take the points. Be

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Speaker 2: glad that you did watch the game, enjoy it. Don't

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Speaker 2: have any expectations on the offensive side. That's my prediction.

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Speaker 1: I think Sarah Guse wins's game. I don't think Notre

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Speaker 1: Dame is especially good, and they're sort of one note.

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Speaker 1: And you've talked about this and I haven't watched every

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Speaker 1: play like you have. But Drew Hind to Michael Mayer,

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Speaker 1: all right, what's next. Well, you've seen our gen that's

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Speaker 1: the photo, that's the you know, that's the presentation. So

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go Syracuse here. I think, even though I

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Speaker 1: have my criticisms about how they performed against Clemson and

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Speaker 1: it's a letdown spot considering the second half of that

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Speaker 1: game and just how close they were, I think Notre

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Speaker 1: Dame is an only okay team because of their lack

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Speaker 1: of a consistent offense and going to a difficult place

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Speaker 1: to play against a good defense. To me, I think

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Speaker 1: it's hard to win on the road. It's even harder

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Speaker 1: to win on the road in a weird place with

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Speaker 1: a good defense. And for all of your absolutely correct

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Speaker 1: takes about Garrett Trader, would you take Garrett Trader over

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Speaker 1: Drew Pine? I think you're.

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Speaker 2: Probably what at this point, does he want to come now? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: So the better quarterback and a good defense at home. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go cubes here.

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Speaker 2: It's I'm taking the points. I said twenty four to twenty.

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Speaker 2: I just it's like it's gonna be somewhere in that range.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be like twenty four to twenty twenty four

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Speaker 2: to twenty three something stupid yep. And so I just

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Speaker 2: feel like if you're giving me points in a setup

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Speaker 2: where there's gonna be a very very very close fourth quarter,

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Speaker 2: which this is again destined to have, take the points.

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Speaker 1: Yep.

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Speaker 2: But I don't know who wins other games here at

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Speaker 2: noon that I will just list off. Dan, tell me

503
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Speaker 2: if you've got any insight into any of these five

504
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Speaker 2: Arkansas minus three and a half at Auburn, Oklahoma minus

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Speaker 2: one or two, or maybe it's Iowa State minus one

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Speaker 2: or two. It's been going back and forth here, basically

507
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Speaker 2: a pickham between Oklahoma and Iowa State. We've got Georgia

508
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Speaker 2: Tech at Florida State, Florida State favored by twenty four,

509
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Speaker 2: big number. We've also got Miami minus two and a

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Speaker 2: half against Virginia. And if you've got any hot takes

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Speaker 2: on Boston College minus eight on the road at Yukon.

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Speaker 1: I like yukon plus points. There. What is there about

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Speaker 1: Boston College right now that is especially interesting or impressive?

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Speaker 1: About the Eagles on the road, They've really been struggling Miami,

515
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Speaker 1: So you're taking like a mess versus a bad offense.

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Speaker 1: And so you have Miami coming off of a lost

517
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Speaker 1: and ugly, ugly loss. TVD status is up in the

518
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Speaker 1: air right now. I saw Mario Cristobal say that, you know,

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Speaker 1: he's gotten a lot better health wise, supposedly in the

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Speaker 1: lead up to the game against Virginia. Virginia, I called

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Speaker 1: this a you know, a sauna frozen lakes situation with

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Speaker 1: how they've flipped the narrative going from this like incredible

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Speaker 1: Robert and I An a offense who's now at Syracuse

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Speaker 1: with Brendan Armstrong just super explosive into a nothing offense

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Speaker 1: and absolutely nothing offense and a pretty good defense. Actually

526
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Speaker 1: they brought in air forces DC. So still a mess,

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Speaker 1: still losing stupid games Virginia. So I think I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: go with the home team because Miami is just the.

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Speaker 2: More creative loser.

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Speaker 1: I guess if that makes sense, So I guess I'll

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Speaker 1: go Virginia. There, Arkansas, Auburn. I'm gonna go Arkansas. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna underthink this one. I think they're better and I

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Speaker 1: don't think Auburn has the offense to take advantage of

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Speaker 1: Arkansas's defensive deficiencies. I like Florida State big against Georgia Tech,

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Speaker 1: and I like Iowa State at home. How about that.

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Speaker 1: I think there is a net crack component. I think

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Speaker 1: Iowa State is not going to go winless in the

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Speaker 1: Big Twelve and Oklahoma's defense with Iowa State's offense running

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Speaker 1: close behind, I think Oklahoma's defense is still the worst

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Speaker 1: thing in this game. I mean, even when they were

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Speaker 1: back at full strength with Dylan Gabriel back on offense,

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Speaker 1: how many points did the defense give up to Kansas

543
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Speaker 1: forty something forty two? So I don't think they've solved defense,

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Speaker 1: and I don't think they will during the year this year.

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Speaker 1: So look, Iowa State's offense against what is probably a

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Speaker 1: blow average or bad defense is still only capable of

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Speaker 1: scoring like twenty three points. But I have them twenty

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Speaker 1: three seventeen at home. It ams.

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Speaker 2: I'm inclined to go Auburn because I think the Hogs

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Speaker 2: are really bad on defense, and I think Auburn will

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Speaker 2: be able to score here, So I take Auburn plus

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Speaker 2: the points. I take Oklahoma outright, Okay. The fall off

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Speaker 2: that Bill Connolly described to us when we had him

554
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Speaker 2: on is dramatic and confusing to his spreadsheets. Iowa State

555
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 2: has also been very inconsistent, as you noted rightfully on

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Speaker 2: the Wednesday show that we did yesterday. They haven't won

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Speaker 2: a Big twelve game yet. So I'm going Oklahoma, if

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Speaker 2: only because I'm still in denial about how bad Oklahoma

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Speaker 2: has suddenly become. I agree with you. Florida State big

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00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:21,200
Speaker 2: over Georgia Tech the Miami Virginia Tech or Miami Virginia game.

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Speaker 2: Excuse me, I have no idea. I'm not even gonna

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Speaker 2: bet I get a pick. I don't know no idea.

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Speaker 1: Can I give you a counterpoint on the Auburn pick

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Speaker 1: and this might change your pick?

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Speaker 2: It might.

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Speaker 1: Auburn's offense is just behind in terms of points per drives.

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Speaker 1: Say it, don't say it Indiana's don't say it Indiana's offense,

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Speaker 1: So Auburn is striving to be Indiana esque.

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Speaker 2: Why is this line not higher then?

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Speaker 1: Because Arkansas is a mess on defense. But I just

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Speaker 1: you know, the teams that have been able to take

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Speaker 1: advantage of Arkansas defense. Have been strong offenses? Who has

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Speaker 1: taken advantage of Arkansas defense this year? I can pull

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Speaker 1: up their schedule, but I don't recall like a nothing

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Speaker 1: team taking advantage Right now. Arkansas lost to text A

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Speaker 1: and M, but only gave up twenty three points and

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Speaker 1: was a doink away from winning that game. They gave

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Speaker 1: up forty to Mississippi State and they give up forty

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Speaker 1: nine to Alabama. Otherwise, if we don't view Auburn and

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Speaker 1: their offense in terms of where those teams are offensively,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Man, have fun.

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Speaker 2: Do you want to do another tiger hog? Bet another face? Bet?

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Speaker 2: You can talk in detail about the text message to spend.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'll read it out loud to our verbalas.

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Speaker 1: Set this up all right?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, after noon Slate the Big in his at three

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Speaker 2: on CBS. It is Florida, it is Georgia, it is

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Speaker 2: in Jacksonville, and Georgia is a twenty two point favorite.

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Speaker 2: They call it the world's largest outdoor cocktail party. However,

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Speaker 2: if you listen to the show that we did yesterday,

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Speaker 2: it used to be that officially. They officially abandon it

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Speaker 2: like fifteen years ago, maybe longer, I guess two thousand

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Speaker 2: and six. Whatever that is sixteen years ago, quick math,

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Speaker 2: because of some alcohol incidents, as you know you might

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Speaker 2: expect from the world's south or cocktail party. But did

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Speaker 2: you know that the student governments have now united on

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Speaker 2: the Florida and Georgia side and have started referring to

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Speaker 2: this game as the War for the Ore?

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Speaker 1: The War for the Ore?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, oh cool? The winning team takes home in or

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Speaker 2: all right, do we throw the records out in a

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Speaker 2: War for the Ore?

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Speaker 1: You have to you always have to throw the records out.

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Speaker 1: Get out of here, I want to say. Stetsan Bennett

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Speaker 1: used that exact term in Oppressed this week. Gotta throw

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Speaker 1: the records out.

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Speaker 2: The dogs are Actually if I could take a little

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Speaker 2: bit of a knee here and explain, you know, we

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Speaker 2: talk plays efficiency, metrics, analytics and all this stuff. It

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Speaker 2: probably feels like we're cherry picking. To be clear, we

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Speaker 2: are to support our narratives wherever we see fit. But

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Speaker 2: george is a really good example this year of how

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Speaker 2: some of the numbers work together a bunch of the

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Speaker 2: stuff that we talk about. So Georgia on average runs

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Speaker 2: seventy two offensive plays per game, which is like top

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Speaker 2: thirty for all FBS teams. They're only averaging eleven drives

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Speaker 2: per game, which is very low. So what does that mean?

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Speaker 2: Think about that for a second. What does that mean? Right?

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00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 2: You can do the math if you want, but it

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Speaker 2: means Georgia has been really good at putting longer drives together.

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Speaker 2: That must mean they're not going three and out. Indeed,

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Speaker 2: they're not going three and out, almost never go three

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Speaker 2: and out. It must mean they control the clock. It

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Speaker 2: also means that they have the most time of possession

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Speaker 2: among Power five team. All these things kind of work together,

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Speaker 2: which is all to say that Georgia is crazy efficient

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Speaker 2: on offense, and in this game against Florida's defense, which

634
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Speaker 2: is not very good, they should be able to do

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Speaker 2: pretty much whatever they want. I have no issue with

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Speaker 2: Florida's team as a whole, with the way that billion

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Speaker 2: Napier is trying to put it together, I think it

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00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 2: will get there in due time. It is certainly not

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00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 2: there on the defensive side of the ball, at least

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Speaker 2: not yet and not ready for prime time against this

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Speaker 2: Georgia team. George's gonna be able to move to the

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Speaker 2: football caveat? Is this, please, the facto National championship game

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Speaker 2: for Florida, The facto National championship game for Florida. Yes,

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Speaker 2: to play spoiler, the facto National championship game. You know

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Speaker 2: how I feel about that. I'm closing my eyes here.

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Speaker 2: I'm very into this. I know, I know, you know

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Speaker 2: how I feel about that. A facto national championship game.

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Speaker 1: But isn't isn't that generally speak as me? Isn't that

649
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 1: generally speaking a home game?

650
00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 2: Though obviously no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no no, oh,

651
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 2: could be a rival regame.

652
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 1: Okay, nous, okay, the facto National championship.

653
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 2: Is that a factor into your thinking at all? No?

654
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 1: Not in the slightest that's okay. If it were in Gainesville,

655
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 1: if this matchup were in Gainesville, Yes, of course, because

656
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 1: I'm a big believer in frenzy times, even the ristic championship.

657
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 1: I know. But when you say de facto, that means,

658
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 1: you know, and I think back to like all of

659
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 1: the actual powers, like when LSU under Joe Burrow and

660
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 1: USC with Matt Lane, all those scenes were like they're

661
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 1: going to get a team's best shot at home, right

662
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 1: where you're just like you're sleeping in your own bed.

663
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 1: You're more familiar with the ins and outs of the stadium,

664
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 1: the topography of the field. You're getting the crazy, you know,

665
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:46,719
Speaker 1: shared tunnel situation if you're playing at Michigan or Washington

666
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 1: or wherever. Like that, to me is the defining characteristic

667
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 1: of the de facto National Championship.

668
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 2: Do you think, though, I mean, we've had a couple

669
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 2: of these games now for Florida where it's clear if

670
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 2: you look at at the numbers that I just described,

671
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 2: many of the stuff on APOR in the spreadsheets and

672
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 2: the analytics and the efficiency all that crap, it's clear

673
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 2: that Florida's best games have been against the best teams

674
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:11,759
Speaker 2: on its schedule. They beat Utah week one again week one.

675
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 2: Maybe we kind of look past that a bit as

676
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 2: a rounding air given the nature of Week one every season,

677
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:21,440
Speaker 2: but still a good win. They also, Utah has been

678
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:23,799
Speaker 2: pushed around a bit. Utah can pushed around, but you know,

679
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 2: a good win. Nonetheless, they were close against Kentucky. They

680
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 2: lost that game at home, but lost at Tennessee only

681
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:34,840
Speaker 2: by five. Lost to LSU a few weeks ago that

682
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 2: was also a close game. These are good teams, sure,

683
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:42,880
Speaker 2: and I just described it's also been a minute since

684
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:46,400
Speaker 2: Georgia played anybody of note, right, I go back to

685
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:50,399
Speaker 2: the halcyon days of Week one, forty nine to three

686
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 2: over your Oregon Ducks. Maybe also a bit of a

687
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:57,280
Speaker 2: rounding era of sorts. But like, is there a world

688
00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 2: in which Florida comes out out hot? Florida's the best

689
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 2: team Georgia has seen in a while, and it takes

690
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:08,319
Speaker 2: them a while to get into the groove. They don't

691
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 2: get the ball a whole lot per game. They still win,

692
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 2: but twenty two's hard to cover because of just the

693
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 2: way they play offense.

694
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 1: For sure, for sure, there's a world in which that

695
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:22,400
Speaker 1: exists Florida. Right Well, the way you describe Florida going

696
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 1: back and forth with Tennessee, going back and forth with

697
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:27,799
Speaker 1: LSU two clearly decent top fifteen teams. At the very

698
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 1: least is Florida is a terrific sparring partner. Yeah, Florida

699
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:35,360
Speaker 1: is great rehearsal. I don't know if you watch rehearsal

700
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 1: by the way on HBO, one of the most uncomfortable

701
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 1: bits of production ever produced. What do you know about

702
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:41,880
Speaker 1: the show that can be on our Q and a

703
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 1: show never never saw it?

704
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:43,239
Speaker 2: Now?

705
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:47,320
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Nathan Fielder's we'll have a conversation.

706
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:47,840
Speaker 2: Okay.

707
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 1: When you have a playmaker like Anthony Richardson is when

708
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,719
Speaker 1: you've run the ball like Florida has done, and when

709
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 1: Georgia has struggled themselves on offense at times along the

710
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:01,439
Speaker 1: offensive line sort of fits and stars Stetson. Bennett hasn't

711
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:05,279
Speaker 1: fully looked like himself, a receiver, hasn't emerged in the

712
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 1: mold of some of the I mean, Rock Bowers is

713
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 1: terrific the right. Kenny McIntosh has been very good out

714
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 1: of the backfield, but the ways in which George's offense

715
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:15,320
Speaker 1: has put teams in a bind is not as impressive

716
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 1: as probably the past couple iterations of the dogs. So

717
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:21,360
Speaker 1: I have and once again, what'd you say? The line

718
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:25,360
Speaker 1: was twenty two. Yeah, I have Florida covering that. I

719
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 1: still think it's close at halftime ish, and Georgia just

720
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 1: wears them down and comfortably wins, but comfortably wins in

721
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 1: the thirty one seventeen thirty three seventeen kind of mold

722
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:36,759
Speaker 1: in the Gators cover.

723
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I'm with you. I don't see. Twenty

724
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 2: two is a big number.

725
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:41,880
Speaker 1: It's a big number.

726
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:44,720
Speaker 2: It's a really big number again in a rivalry game.

727
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 2: And Florida may not be anything special, but Florida is

728
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:51,759
Speaker 2: the best team George's played in a while, and they

729
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 2: have played well against teams that seemingly are better than them.

730
00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 2: They've been punching up pretty well.

731
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:03,280
Speaker 1: It's tough, though, when Florida hasn't really played a complete

732
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 1: game and we're at Halloween.

733
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 2: Wow, we forget about these times.

734
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:08,880
Speaker 1: That's tough because that means the Gators have the potential

735
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 1: to lose his forty five to thirteen, right, they have

736
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:14,240
Speaker 1: the potential to lose that. And you can say Georgia

737
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 1: hasn't gotten its act together, this guy hasn't emerged, the

738
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:18,840
Speaker 1: defense isn't as good. All of those can be true,

739
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 1: but also this could be that wake up moment where

740
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 1: like did you forget about us? Kind of Georgia day.

741
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 1: That's the issue with taking the points in a matchup

742
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 1: like this, because we know Georgia's ceiling when they're fully operational.

743
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:34,879
Speaker 1: Do you have a current go to cocktail by the way,

744
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:38,439
Speaker 1: go topping like to make for yourself or to order out,

745
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 1: not just a drink on the rocks?

746
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:45,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, not just a beer of course, Gosh it's been

747
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:48,440
Speaker 2: a while. Cocktail of the moment, Cocktail of the moment.

748
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 2: Cocktail the moment would probably.

749
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:55,400
Speaker 1: Be just straight up jack and coke, really super basic,

750
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,280
Speaker 1: like a Delta Oops Alon special.

751
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, I.

752
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 1: Don't have a good answer for this. I made one

753
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 1: for a friend who came over. It was a it

754
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:07,759
Speaker 1: was just in a bind and I had to put

755
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:11,319
Speaker 1: something together. I had a pineapple spin drift, cheap tequila,

756
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 1: a little bit of lime and a little bit of

757
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:16,279
Speaker 1: simple syrup excuse me. And I was just most proud

758
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 1: of the name I gave it on the fly, the

759
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:20,839
Speaker 1: Don Flamenco and hotter of Mike Tyson's punch out. Even

760
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 1: though Don Flamenco not from Mexico, I believe he's from Spain.

761
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 1: Spain was still very don Flamenco is a great sounding cocktail.

762
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 2: Next Game, Next Game, three point thirty on Fox Oklahoma

763
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 2: State versus Kansas State. Dan. Sometimes in this business you

764
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:35,000
Speaker 2: have no.

765
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:38,439
Speaker 1: Idea most of the time for us. But yeah, most

766
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:40,280
Speaker 1: of the time, no idea.

767
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 2: Scale of one to ten one least confident, ten, most confident. Oh,

768
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:51,279
Speaker 2: big old goose, egg, big old goose. Th I have

769
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:55,279
Speaker 2: no idea who's winning this game. It feels so even

770
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 2: to me. I can't I'll flip a coin. Yeah, I

771
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:00,400
Speaker 2: also think it might be the best game of the

772
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:04,400
Speaker 2: afternoon block because of that uncertainty. Have you seen an

773
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 2: update on Adrian Martinez.

774
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:11,919
Speaker 1: I have not, which is very strange to say. I've

775
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:14,239
Speaker 1: never used this phrasing before on the show or in life.

776
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:17,720
Speaker 1: At any moment, Man, I wonder what will Howard's status.

777
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 1: I think he's playing. I think he's playing our good

778
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 1: to play in this game. I don't know. I haven't

779
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:26,920
Speaker 1: seen Adrian Martinez updates, but I do know about the

780
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 1: universe and how the universe operates, and the universe operates

781
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:32,920
Speaker 1: in such a way that says Oklahoma State with a

782
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 1: comeback win over Texas and always emotional win for the Pokes,

783
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 1: and then they travel to Manhattan, Kansas to try and

784
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:44,799
Speaker 1: tackle a tiny, diminutive running back who torches everybody. I'm

785
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 1: gonna go with Kansas State here pretty confidently.

786
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 2: Really, yeah, yeah. I mean what scares me about Oklahoma

787
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:53,880
Speaker 2: State is how many big plays they give up, especially

788
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 2: in an even matchup like this, which you know, I mean,

789
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:59,239
Speaker 2: you know, of course, how the universe works. These are

790
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:01,719
Speaker 2: the types of games or one on those margins where

791
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 2: it's a big play that really sets it apart, or

792
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:10,399
Speaker 2: it sets the margin here for victory that I think

793
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 2: k State's got a high enough floor even with Will Howard,

794
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 2: that they can still generate those plays against Oklahoma State.

795
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:20,719
Speaker 2: I am also worried about that emotional letdown after the

796
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:21,439
Speaker 2: Texas game.

797
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm a little worried about it. It's worthwhile to be

798
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:28,920
Speaker 1: worried about Mike Gundy on the road. I guess, I

799
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:31,239
Speaker 1: don't know, Like I'm looking at the recent matchups in

800
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:34,479
Speaker 1: Oklahoma State has won three in a row. So Chris

801
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:37,920
Speaker 1: Climban has been owned by Mike Gundy road or home.

802
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 1: I think the air has come. I don't know.

803
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:44,359
Speaker 2: I'm with you. Some other games here in that three

804
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 2: point thirty block. I'm going to list a bunch off.

805
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 2: We're not going to go into detail with all of these,

806
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 2: but trying to be complete and give you the full

807
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:55,839
Speaker 2: picture for what goes on in this afternoon block. Wake

808
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 2: Forest minus three and a half against Louisville, Illinois minus

809
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:04,799
Speaker 2: seven and a half versus Nebraska, Oregon, your organ Bucks

810
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:11,440
Speaker 2: minus seventeen against cal Golden Bears, Cincinnati minus one against UCF.

811
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 2: We've got Miszoo on the road at South Carolina. South

812
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:18,279
Speaker 2: Carolina favored by three and a half, Rutgers on the

813
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 2: road two score dog against Minnesota, and then we've got

814
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:27,840
Speaker 2: Northwestern versus Iowa. Iowa favored by eleven, which is wild.

815
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:30,920
Speaker 2: I originally wrote down the wrong over under that I

816
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 2: gave to you. I said it was thirty one, which

817
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:40,759
Speaker 2: would have been nuts. It is still egregiously low at

818
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 2: thirty seven and a half points, not the lowest we've

819
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:46,239
Speaker 2: seen from Iowa this season. But yeah, that is your

820
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:50,400
Speaker 2: list of like seven additional games, Dan, Yeah, any thoughts

821
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 2: on any of those.

822
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 1: Of course, Ty, I don't like Louisville all that much,

823
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:56,239
Speaker 1: but the games in the Louisville I like Wake Here,

824
00:41:57,000 --> 00:42:00,319
Speaker 1: illinoisgainst Nebraska. This is the exact type of team that

825
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 1: should comfortably beat Nebraska. So I wish the game we're

826
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:05,799
Speaker 1: at home because Illinois's defense has performed better at home

827
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:08,400
Speaker 1: as most teams as defenses do. But I still like

828
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:12,760
Speaker 1: Illinois here. Oregon big over Cal. Who I mean, usually

829
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 1: the defense is better than the offense, and it's better

830
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 1: than the offenses here. Defense is not excellent this year.

831
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:19,360
Speaker 1: We're still talking about a Cal program who lost to Colorado.

832
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 1: I'm just not in on Cal. Their offensive line is

833
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 1: so bad. This should be a netcrack game for Oregon's

834
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:27,799
Speaker 1: complete lack of pass rush, and I just think they're

835
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:30,279
Speaker 1: gonna run away with this one. The first Oregon Cal

836
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 1: game to be like before five pms. It's like two

837
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 1: thousand and eight, though it's usually a night game. Cincinnati UCF.

838
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:38,879
Speaker 1: I think I like Cincy, but the line seems very

839
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:39,840
Speaker 1: weirdly low to me.

840
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:42,880
Speaker 2: I like Cincy. I think they're underrated, but I agree,

841
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 2: and I did see that there's some sharp action coming

842
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 2: in on UCF here, which I don't fully understand. I'm

843
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:50,280
Speaker 2: with Cincinnati on this one.

844
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 1: It seems like it's injury scuttle then probably so to

845
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 1: me to my eyes. Cincinnati. Ben Bryant did come back

846
00:42:56,680 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 1: last week. Northwestern will beat Iowa because that's all Northwestern

847
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:05,319
Speaker 1: can ever manage to do. I had heard from a

848
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:08,759
Speaker 1: former Northwestern player the reason why Northwestern has owned Kirk

849
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:10,880
Speaker 1: Farns and Iowa with the way that they have is

850
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:13,920
Speaker 1: supposedly I think Pat Fitzgerald got hurt against Iowa or

851
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 1: something during his playing career. There is some like there's

852
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 1: something in Nigo Montoya. Nigo Montoya. Excuse me. I was

853
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 1: getting very emotional there about Pat Fitzgerald and Iowa that

854
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:26,240
Speaker 1: he always gets the cats up that if nothing else,

855
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 1: they can make Iowa field terrat.

856
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:30,240
Speaker 2: He is a blood feud.

857
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a weird Pat Fitzgerald blood flute blood feud.

858
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:37,279
Speaker 1: Excuse me. With Iowa missoos South Carolina, South Carolina's better.

859
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:40,239
Speaker 1: Missoo's offense is a nightmare. It's an absolute nightmare. So

860
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 1: I'm going with South Carolina. A bit of a letdown

861
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 1: spot after the win against A and M, but I

862
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 1: still think it's an evening game, right four pm Eastern

863
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 1: is what you have down here?

864
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:48,839
Speaker 2: Yep.

865
00:43:49,800 --> 00:44:00,080
Speaker 1: Rutgers Minnesota, Oh buddy, oohbody, brother brother. I think this

866
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 1: should be a net crack moment for Minnesota. But I

867
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:05,319
Speaker 1: don't know can you build the whole plane out of

868
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 1: mo Ibrahim successfully.

869
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 2: Ever, we're gonna find out. We're gonna find out.

870
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 1: We're gonna find out. So I guess the game's in Minneapolis.

871
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 2: Game is in Minneapolis.

872
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 1: I guess Minnesota. But I hate it.

873
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:19,359
Speaker 2: Give me Louisville plus three and a half over Wake.

874
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:21,319
Speaker 2: I think this is a field goal game one way

875
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 2: or the other. This is a point game last year,

876
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:27,759
Speaker 2: and Louisville actually put in a pretty good defensive showing

877
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 2: against Pit a week ago. They're easy to overlook. They're

878
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 2: easy to overlook. I'm going Louisville. I want Louisville in

879
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:37,799
Speaker 2: that game plus the points. I guess. I'm on Illinois

880
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:42,280
Speaker 2: over Nebraska. Yeah, I guess. I think Nebraska's run defense

881
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:45,719
Speaker 2: is going to have some trouble Beyond that. Outside of

882
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 2: the Cincinnati game, I don't really have leans on any

883
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 2: of these other matchups. I would also go Northwestern plus eleven.

884
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:55,400
Speaker 1: I hesitate to talk about what Pit results mean given

885
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:56,799
Speaker 1: the state of their offensive line.

886
00:44:56,880 --> 00:45:02,759
Speaker 2: Moving on, moving on, late game, Yeah, seven pm. Kentucky

887
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:08,279
Speaker 2: on the road at Tennessee Tennessee favored by twelve and

888
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 2: a half. Dan, can we take a knee again? Can

889
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 2: we just do a little bit of real talk here?

890
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 1: I do my show standing up, so I'm raising up

891
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:17,240
Speaker 1: my foot, putting it on my chair like Captain Morgan.

892
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:18,720
Speaker 1: Not a sponsor could be continue.

893
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:28,720
Speaker 2: Tennessee realized two weeks ago that now it can date supermodels. Okay,

894
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 2: that's what happens when you beat Alabama. Right, fifteen years

895
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:36,880
Speaker 2: in the makings, all these demons have suddenly been exercised.

896
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 2: More importantly, they're still unbeaten. Now they still have a

897
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 2: shot at the division, at the conference, at the playoff,

898
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:47,879
Speaker 2: at the national championship. I can speak from personal experience here,

899
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 2: as you know. Yeah, but when you date supermodels, the

900
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:54,839
Speaker 2: risk moving forward is that you only want to date

901
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 2: supermodels for the rest of your life.

902
00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:59,400
Speaker 1: Yeah. It's like flying first class. Yeah exactly, this is

903
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:02,239
Speaker 1: who I am now. It's a lifestyle that you get

904
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 1: used to very quickly. Yeah, I wish I could fly

905
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 1: first class.

906
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 2: With all due respect to the Kentucky Wildcats, Tennessee's got

907
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 2: its eyes on that game next week baby in Athens.

908
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 1: I mean you could say the same for Georgia, right.

909
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:19,400
Speaker 2: Maybe you could, although I don't think you're looking past Florida.

910
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 2: That's more of a rivalry spot. But Tennessee. Tennessee is

911
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 2: looking at that game next week saying, oh baby, this

912
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 2: is who we are. Now, this is who we are.

913
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:33,399
Speaker 2: They're trying not to stare, but it's kind of hard

914
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 2: not to. You ever get caught looking. Den You got

915
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 2: caught looking. I don't know what you're talking about, Tennessee.

916
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:42,360
Speaker 2: I fear in this matchup might get caught looking ahead

917
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:42,800
Speaker 2: to Georgia.

918
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 1: I mean it is a rivalry in its own right,

919
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:49,800
Speaker 1: battle for the barrel. Right Tennessee whiskey bourbon whiskey in Kentucky.

920
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:51,760
Speaker 2: Come, but it ain't Georgia.

921
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 1: The problem with liking Kentucky in this one is there

922
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:58,800
Speaker 1: is a very specific way in which Tennessee is vulnerable,

923
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:00,239
Speaker 1: and that's through the air. With how beat up their

924
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:02,839
Speaker 1: secondary is and they the pass rush hasn't been all

925
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:05,480
Speaker 1: that consistent, and I just don't think Kentucky is built

926
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:10,360
Speaker 1: for that specifically. I like well Levis, I like a

927
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:12,120
Speaker 1: couple of the receivers that have stepped up early on

928
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 1: in the season, but the passing game seems to have

929
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 1: gone away some so I think I'm going Tennants because

930
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 1: I don't think I don't think they're overlooking Kentucky. Those

931
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:22,400
Speaker 1: two teams never overlook each other, so I think they

932
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:24,280
Speaker 1: win this game by seventeen to twenty points.

933
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:27,920
Speaker 2: This is such a look ahead spot. Okay, such a

934
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:31,400
Speaker 2: look ahead spot. You're right, they don't typically overlook one another.

935
00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:34,200
Speaker 2: But Tennessee has not been in this spot for a

936
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 2: good long time. Dan It he goes against everything that

937
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:41,799
Speaker 2: I stand for as a college football fan to bet

938
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:44,880
Speaker 2: on Tennessee here minus whatever, twelve and a half. That's

939
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:47,920
Speaker 2: a big number. There are other podcasts out there, there

940
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:50,719
Speaker 2: are other YouTube channels out there. They'll give you the

941
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 2: full rundown on stats, on the x's and oh's, what else,

942
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 2: the tendencies, all of that. Yeah, I am talking about raw.

943
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:03,319
Speaker 2: I'm talking about carnal emotion, the stuff that really makes

944
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:06,719
Speaker 2: this sport tick, the reason you are subscribed to this podcast,

945
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:07,400
Speaker 2: among others.

946
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:10,879
Speaker 1: Your hair, my hair, Thank you're beautiful head of hair.

947
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 2: It is all the stuff that makes this sport the best,

948
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:18,160
Speaker 2: the most unpredictable in the world. Even Josh Heipel said

949
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:20,360
Speaker 2: it this week. There needs to be a sense of

950
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:24,800
Speaker 2: urgency in this game. They don't want to look ahead.

951
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 2: Kentucky is coming off a bye. They are ready for this.

952
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:32,200
Speaker 2: Tennessee's already got its eyes on next week. Kentucky plus

953
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:33,759
Speaker 2: twelve and a half Lock of.

954
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:35,840
Speaker 1: The week, Wow of the week.

955
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:41,440
Speaker 2: Going into Neeland. Let's go, let's go Cats. Will Levis

956
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:42,280
Speaker 2: first round pick.

957
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:45,080
Speaker 1: Really strong defense for Kentucky. So that would be the

958
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 1: case that they can just slow this game down enough

959
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 1: and get off the field. But all right, your mileage

960
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 1: may vary.

961
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 2: Seven point thirty ABC Michigan State on the road at

962
00:48:56,080 --> 00:49:00,400
Speaker 2: Michigan also a twenty two point line twenty two and

963
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:04,279
Speaker 2: a half to be exact. Big time rivalry in rival

964
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 2: Do we throw the records out in this one as

965
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:06,920
Speaker 2: well for.

966
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:10,719
Speaker 1: The Paul Bunyan Trophy, of course, throwout.

967
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 2: Michigan State won this game last season. It was in

968
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:17,440
Speaker 2: East Lansing. You gotta believe that Michigan wants revenge on little.

969
00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 1: Brother, oh Ty.

970
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 2: Gotta believe the respect. Gotta believe it. I would love

971
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:25,480
Speaker 2: to envision a world in which this is close. But

972
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 2: you know this is a Tracy Chapman for me. Man,

973
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 2: give me one.

974
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 1: Reason they're healthier, Michigan State. Give me another reason they

975
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 1: beat Wisconsin.

976
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I need a different reason than that. That doesn't count.

977
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:44,720
Speaker 1: Despite being bad, some years, they beat Michigan in weird ways.

978
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:47,920
Speaker 2: So you're going last year and a half.

979
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:49,759
Speaker 1: No, I don't know, I'm knowing if I'm saying that,

980
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, if you want Tracy Chapman, give me

981
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:54,239
Speaker 1: a reason to stay here.

982
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:59,919
Speaker 2: No, No, I'm just telling you No, Rocky Lombardi is beaten. Miss.

983
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:08,800
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm telling you the way. If we're talking

984
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:10,000
Speaker 1: about the universe.

985
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:11,960
Speaker 2: Rocky Lombardi are one true god on the podcast.

986
00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, with these rivalry games, I was a Joe Milton game.

987
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:18,720
Speaker 1: I believe that year. Last year was j J McCarthy

988
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:20,640
Speaker 1: with the fumble, which is not the entire reason Michigan

989
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 1: lost that game. And it was also Kenneth Walker, who

990
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:26,120
Speaker 1: was apparently a good NFL running back. Now is that true?

991
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:26,960
Speaker 1: Yeah for the Seahawks.

992
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, Kenneth Walker the third mind you excuse me, there

993
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:32,040
Speaker 2: have been two ahead of him.

994
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:36,560
Speaker 1: It's a big number. But the way Michigan wins and

995
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:42,400
Speaker 1: the way Michigan State loses, Michigan State can stop the

996
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 1: run at times. The problem is the passing game. So

997
00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:47,719
Speaker 1: then okay, do you think Roman Wilson and Ronnie Bell

998
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:50,120
Speaker 1: and you know Cornelius Johnson, Donovan Edwards, can you know,

999
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:52,880
Speaker 1: as an all purpose guy, get loose Blake Corum, who,

1000
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:55,360
Speaker 1: by the way, our friend Ben Golliver yells at me

1001
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 1: all the time for not waxing poetic about Blake Korum

1002
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:01,719
Speaker 1: and saying, oh my god, he's the smallest guy in

1003
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:07,160
Speaker 1: the field. Okay, relax. I think Michigan wins this game

1004
00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:10,600
Speaker 1: very comfortably. I think in terms of this rivalry, it's

1005
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:13,640
Speaker 1: a neck crack game. There's nothing surrounded. It's not Ohio

1006
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:16,279
Speaker 1: State the next week. I think Michigan wins this game

1007
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:18,680
Speaker 1: much in the same way they did against Penn State.

1008
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:23,120
Speaker 1: I have Michigan winning it forty one seventeen.

1009
00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:25,760
Speaker 2: I can't believe you talk this much about this game.

1010
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:30,000
Speaker 1: What what the hell have you gained over the years

1011
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:33,240
Speaker 1: saying Michigan's easily going to beat Michigan State no matter

1012
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 1: how down or weird Michigan State season is going.

1013
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:39,279
Speaker 2: I can't believe you spent all of that breath, all

1014
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:42,880
Speaker 2: of your precious instrument talking about this stupid game. You

1015
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:43,200
Speaker 2: gotta be.

1016
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:46,360
Speaker 1: Kidding, man, Xavier Henderson. I just you gotta be kidding

1017
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 1: win Men. There's guys. I'm just telling you teams are

1018
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:54,520
Speaker 1: not what they are in mid September in late October.

1019
00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:56,359
Speaker 1: I'm not saying Michigan State is that. I'm not saying

1020
00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:58,719
Speaker 1: Michigan State has solved the issues that have plagued them

1021
00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:02,239
Speaker 1: all season long. I am saying they've gotten a little

1022
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:05,080
Speaker 1: bit better as they gotten a little bit healthier. But

1023
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:08,120
Speaker 1: I still like it. I cannot make the case, but

1024
00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:11,480
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, if you are a Michigan fan, be

1025
00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:13,919
Speaker 1: more scared than you currently are. That's all.

1026
00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:17,879
Speaker 2: The strongest part of Michigan State's defense is against the run,

1027
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:21,040
Speaker 2: and that isn't even that strong, Dan, No, I know,

1028
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:23,800
Speaker 2: it isn't even that strong. I think this is another

1029
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:26,760
Speaker 2: Piniota game. We talked about the Penn State Michigan thing earlier.

1030
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:30,919
Speaker 2: This is a pinata game. They're gonna beat Sparty over

1031
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:32,880
Speaker 2: the head until they break over and open and then

1032
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:33,319
Speaker 2: it's over.

1033
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1034
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 2: Only hesitation I have here is that Michigan plays slowly.

1035
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:43,760
Speaker 2: That is their mo so they don't separate. They don't separate.

1036
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:47,800
Speaker 2: Sometimes those teams have a hard time covering bigger spreads,

1037
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:50,200
Speaker 2: hitting the over. Michigan has not really had that trouble.

1038
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:52,400
Speaker 2: They've been good against the spread, but there are one

1039
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:55,319
Speaker 2: hundred and twentieth in terms of hitting the over, so

1040
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:58,560
Speaker 2: maybe give that a look. I gotta go Michigan though, man,

1041
00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:00,520
Speaker 2: I have no reason.

1042
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:02,360
Speaker 1: Stay Halloween weekend.

1043
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:03,160
Speaker 2: I don't care.

1044
00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:07,560
Speaker 1: I'm saying spookier things. What happens there goes an issue

1045
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:10,719
Speaker 1: with the snap tie, a couple other issue with the fumble.

1046
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:13,480
Speaker 1: I think I just think there's something spooky bets about it.

1047
00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:17,600
Speaker 2: You know, I will dress up like a sparkle.

1048
00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:19,279
Speaker 1: Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.

1049
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:20,640
Speaker 1: Let's let's get to the bottom of this. What are

1050
00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 1: you gonna do with Michigan State covers this game?

1051
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:25,240
Speaker 2: If Michigan State covers, I'll dress up like a Spartan.

1052
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:27,399
Speaker 2: I don't know how to do that, but maybe I'll

1053
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:30,120
Speaker 2: just go sleeveless on one of our Bruin A shows.

1054
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:32,160
Speaker 1: I'll do something. I'll come up with something a little

1055
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:32,520
Speaker 1: bit better.

1056
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:36,960
Speaker 2: Continue seven point thirty sec Network Ole miss mineus two

1057
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:39,839
Speaker 2: and a half on the road at Texas A and M.

1058
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 2: I have a great idea for this game. I'm very

1059
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:45,560
Speaker 2: proud of this idea. Hear me out. I'm ready what

1060
00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:52,600
Speaker 2: if neither team passed, okay, just seventy rushing attempts. At

1061
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:54,120
Speaker 2: the end, we see who does better.

1062
00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:58,839
Speaker 1: I would probably take ole Miss in that scenario, I guess.

1063
00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:01,240
Speaker 2: Just see what they can do with it. You get seventy,

1064
00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:05,000
Speaker 2: will count down from seventy. New rules, kind of like

1065
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:08,360
Speaker 2: a spring scrimmage. Who gets the most yards that's the

1066
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:11,480
Speaker 2: team that wins. Right, I would watch that? Would you

1067
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:14,240
Speaker 2: watch that? I don't think I'll watch this game at present.

1068
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:17,799
Speaker 2: But if I told if if we modify the rules

1069
00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 2: and said you get seventy, you get seventy, go.

1070
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:24,239
Speaker 1: So just red Rover aside to play kind of like

1071
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:30,879
Speaker 1: sec Red Rover. Yeah, in this In this matchup specifically,

1072
00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:33,880
Speaker 1: I think there is one, two, three Cancun potential for

1073
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:37,319
Speaker 1: Texas A and M. And you saw the suspensions this week.

1074
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:40,120
Speaker 1: I think it was three or four guys suspended the freshman.

1075
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:44,520
Speaker 1: There's just there's a little bit of Miami infecting A

1076
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:48,319
Speaker 1: and M at this point that has me worried. So

1077
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:52,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say Ole Miss, even with the idea that

1078
00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:55,399
Speaker 1: they are probably overrated, as was seen last week when

1079
00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:56,879
Speaker 1: they jump out to a hugely and then just get

1080
00:54:56,880 --> 00:55:00,960
Speaker 1: demolished by LSU. I still think Old Mess probably has

1081
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:04,400
Speaker 1: its head on a bit straighter at this moment. So yeah,

1082
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:09,160
Speaker 1: even a Kyle field Man second straight road games hurt.

1083
00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:11,279
Speaker 2: This is me. This is destined to be a really

1084
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:13,480
Speaker 2: close game. Of course, this is destined to be a

1085
00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:15,600
Speaker 2: really close game. A and M is many things. They're

1086
00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:18,120
Speaker 2: not getting blown out, not by anybody. They're playing close

1087
00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:20,600
Speaker 2: games because the defense is still pretty good. The offense

1088
00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:24,279
Speaker 2: is bad. I mean, maybe they've made some strides when

1089
00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:26,959
Speaker 2: they give Devin eh Chaane the ball, but they can't

1090
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:29,640
Speaker 2: get the passing games sorted out. I mean, it's just

1091
00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:31,640
Speaker 2: kind of a nightmare. And there is one, two, three

1092
00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:34,239
Speaker 2: can kun potential, So I'm with you on that front.

1093
00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:35,960
Speaker 2: I don't like the second straight road game though, for

1094
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:39,320
Speaker 2: Old Miss, so I'm gonna go Old Miss. It's minus

1095
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 2: two and a half right now. I will be honest.

1096
00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:43,279
Speaker 2: If it goes up to three, I might consider going

1097
00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:43,759
Speaker 2: A and M.

1098
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:45,759
Speaker 1: I don't hate Jef for it. Yeah, I just.

1099
00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:48,480
Speaker 2: Think this is much much the way I was sold

1100
00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:51,359
Speaker 2: on Notre Dame Syracuse being a bit of a rock fight.

1101
00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:52,680
Speaker 2: I think this might be a bit of a rock

1102
00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:56,600
Speaker 2: fight that's very close in the twenties, that type of game. Okay,

1103
00:55:56,800 --> 00:56:00,319
Speaker 2: all right, some other games here, real quick five in

1104
00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:05,520
Speaker 2: the nightcap, I've got USC minus fifteen over Arizona, though

1105
00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:07,600
Speaker 2: I'll be rooting like hel for Arizona. I think that'll

1106
00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:08,279
Speaker 2: be a fun game.

1107
00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:11,400
Speaker 1: Potential Time and Tucson night Time in Tucson didn't defect

1108
00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:13,920
Speaker 1: Oregon by ten uscee a lot more beat up on

1109
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:16,520
Speaker 1: defense that linebacker especially. Okay, yeah next.

1110
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:20,160
Speaker 2: Yeah potentially uh seven point thirty Baylor at Texas Tech

1111
00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:22,400
Speaker 2: Texa Tech minus two and a half. Lock up Texas

1112
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:22,799
Speaker 2: Tech for.

1113
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:24,560
Speaker 1: Me, Wow of the week.

1114
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:32,239
Speaker 2: Kind of like the Tech defense kind of it's not

1115
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:34,520
Speaker 2: bad and I think that could be a difference here

1116
00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:39,200
Speaker 2: eight pm ACC network, it is pit it is North Carolina.

1117
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:44,239
Speaker 2: Carolina favored by three and a half, an ultra quiet

1118
00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:49,040
Speaker 2: six and one only lost to Notre Dame. They close

1119
00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:51,960
Speaker 2: out the season after this game. Is what they got.

1120
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:56,960
Speaker 2: Virginia Wake, Virginia Tech or As no Georgia tex excuse me,

1121
00:56:57,440 --> 00:57:03,279
Speaker 2: and North Carolina kind of feeling ten and too.

1122
00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:05,160
Speaker 1: You're kind of feeling ten and two for.

1123
00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:09,320
Speaker 2: North Carolina, So I'll go Carolina in that matchup. Arizona

1124
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:15,080
Speaker 2: stateed over Colorado let's go ASU and Stanford versus UCLA

1125
00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:18,840
Speaker 2: ten thirty PAC twelve after dark, I will go. I'm

1126
00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:22,400
Speaker 2: gonna go Stanford. Why not on a winning streak, on

1127
00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:23,520
Speaker 2: a winning streak.

1128
00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:25,680
Speaker 1: All right? I think I like Baylor against Texas Tech,

1129
00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:27,960
Speaker 1: though I hate that pick because Baylor on the road

1130
00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:32,600
Speaker 1: this year has been boo boo. I think Texas Tech

1131
00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:33,680
Speaker 1: is just going to be two up and down. So

1132
00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:34,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with.

1133
00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:37,560
Speaker 2: Joey McGuire bole.

1134
00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:41,560
Speaker 1: I hear you, I hear you. Aszuo Colorado. I guess

1135
00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:44,080
Speaker 1: ASU big because there's no reason to take Colorado Pitt

1136
00:57:44,120 --> 00:57:47,120
Speaker 1: North Carolina. North Carolina is going to have a field

1137
00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:48,880
Speaker 1: day on defense, which is not something I say all

1138
00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:52,120
Speaker 1: that often, but once again, Pitt's offensive line in shambles.

1139
00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:55,880
Speaker 1: So I just wish I could like Pit a little

1140
00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:57,600
Speaker 1: bit more. But if they can't run the ball, there's

1141
00:57:57,640 --> 00:58:02,400
Speaker 1: not much going on for the Panthers. And so Ucla Stanford.

1142
00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:06,840
Speaker 1: Stanford's gonna try to slow this game down. Ucla coming

1143
00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:09,880
Speaker 1: off of a letdown against Oregon. Is that top ten

1144
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:13,960
Speaker 1: matchup on game day? I think Stanford still is very bad.

1145
00:58:14,040 --> 00:58:17,840
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna go UCLA here by three. Touchdowns very quickly.

1146
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:22,720
Speaker 2: Thursday Night Action, we got Virginia Tech a fourteen point

1147
00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:26,120
Speaker 2: dog against Nancy State. We've got Utah. Weird Utah line

1148
00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:30,280
Speaker 2: here Thursday night Utah favored by seven over Wazoo. I

1149
00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:32,400
Speaker 2: am tempted to go Wazuo plus the points here.

1150
00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:34,360
Speaker 1: Uh defend it.

1151
00:58:35,320 --> 00:58:39,080
Speaker 2: I don't know if I can, okay, but their defense

1152
00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:42,640
Speaker 2: is not bad defense pretty good and playing in Pullman's

1153
00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:46,640
Speaker 2: always weird. It's a Thursday night game. I just wonder

1154
00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:48,320
Speaker 2: why the line is solow. I would think it will

1155
00:58:48,320 --> 00:58:51,200
Speaker 2: be higher. So I'm I'm inclined to go Wazoo here

1156
00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:53,720
Speaker 2: at home plus points.

1157
00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:57,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna go Wazoo as well. I think Cameron

1158
00:58:57,440 --> 00:59:00,280
Speaker 1: Ward is interesting. He's a playmaker. I still don't know

1159
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:01,800
Speaker 1: if I love him, but I don't know if I

1160
00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:04,600
Speaker 1: love Utah's defense in this moment. And so Wazoo doesn't

1161
00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:06,280
Speaker 1: run the ball all that well, which seems to be

1162
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:11,480
Speaker 1: where you can get Utah. But Pullman a decent defense,

1163
00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:15,400
Speaker 1: and me doubting a little bit Utah, I think I'm

1164
00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:18,920
Speaker 1: going Wazoo here. It's just You're right, it's an odd line,

1165
00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:20,280
Speaker 1: and I'm going to steer into that I'm going to

1166
00:59:20,320 --> 00:59:21,880
Speaker 1: steer into the home dog of it all, and I

1167
00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:23,360
Speaker 1: still think Wazoo's pretty decent.

1168
00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:27,160
Speaker 2: Join me, join me on this cougar train.

1169
00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:30,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay phrasing, it's okay.

1170
00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:33,440
Speaker 2: That's all I got, Dan. I think that is most

1171
00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:37,000
Speaker 2: of the at least power five action for this week nine.

1172
00:59:37,840 --> 00:59:40,280
Speaker 1: Rice can get to five wins with a win over Charlotte,

1173
00:59:40,280 --> 00:59:42,320
Speaker 1: who now has an interim coach with Will Heally gone.

1174
00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:44,840
Speaker 1: That's interesting to me. Rice favored by sixteen and a

1175
00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:47,040
Speaker 1: half there, Yeah, big number.

1176
00:59:47,400 --> 00:59:49,360
Speaker 2: Big number for the Owls.

1177
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:51,800
Speaker 1: Yeah you mentioned Oh my god, you mass in New

1178
00:59:51,840 --> 00:59:57,160
Speaker 1: Mexico stat ad play. How about this one, North Texas,

1179
00:59:57,160 --> 00:59:59,080
Speaker 1: a little frisky Western Kentucky trying.

1180
00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:01,800
Speaker 2: To get Bowl eligible again. Yeah, that to me is interesting.

1181
01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:05,280
Speaker 1: At two thirty, Boise State should win comfortably and get

1182
01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:06,600
Speaker 1: to five and zero in the Mountain West with a

1183
01:00:06,640 --> 01:00:09,320
Speaker 1: win over Colorado State, who's actually won a couple. Marshall

1184
01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:12,760
Speaker 1: Coastal tie. Yeah, on the NFL network, By the way,

1185
01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:16,000
Speaker 1: on the NFL network. On the NFL network, according to

1186
01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:21,280
Speaker 1: ESPN's schedule page, Marshall and Coastal Carolina six o'clock Central,

1187
01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:26,080
Speaker 1: seven o'clock eastern. Otherwise I don't know. I look through

1188
01:00:26,120 --> 01:00:28,160
Speaker 1: this the other day Fresno, San Diego State. I wish

1189
01:00:28,200 --> 01:00:30,360
Speaker 1: we're a bigger deal, but teams are beat up and

1190
01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:31,640
Speaker 1: all over the place on offense.

1191
01:00:31,680 --> 01:00:34,120
Speaker 2: That could be a terrible football game, could.

1192
01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:37,360
Speaker 1: Be pretty bad. Yea, So I guess with that just

1193
01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:41,120
Speaker 1: dropped me some big stanky. I love the word turgid,

1194
01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:42,240
Speaker 1: drum and fife.

1195
01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:46,680
Speaker 2: All right, we got three games, Oh my god, the

1196
01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:53,320
Speaker 2: biggie finally, finally, Georgetown one in six Georgetown. Nobody wins

1197
01:00:53,320 --> 01:00:57,320
Speaker 2: any games in this league. I know, Georgetown one in

1198
01:00:57,520 --> 01:01:03,120
Speaker 2: six on the road in Easton against your Lafayette Leopards,

1199
01:01:03,160 --> 01:01:06,760
Speaker 2: also a very bad losing record at two and five, Dan,

1200
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:07,360
Speaker 2: who you got?

1201
01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:10,720
Speaker 1: They were close last week? Ty, show some respect. I

1202
01:01:10,760 --> 01:01:11,920
Speaker 1: have Lafayette big.

1203
01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:15,160
Speaker 2: Lafayette big. I go Georgetown even away from even away

1204
01:01:15,200 --> 01:01:20,480
Speaker 2: from home. One pm. Colgate, not the toothpaste, more the

1205
01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:23,880
Speaker 2: football team. Oh bo two and five on the road

1206
01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:28,720
Speaker 2: at Bucknell. One and six. Nobody wins, Nobody wins in

1207
01:01:28,760 --> 01:01:34,080
Speaker 2: the Patriot League. Coldgate by eight by eight. Yeah, I

1208
01:01:34,120 --> 01:01:36,960
Speaker 2: was thinking more thirteen. But I am also on Colgate.

1209
01:01:37,080 --> 01:01:38,280
Speaker 1: Does that what your model says?

1210
01:01:38,520 --> 01:01:42,560
Speaker 2: That is what the model says. That's correct. Yeah, and last,

1211
01:01:42,600 --> 01:01:44,240
Speaker 2: but certainly not least.

1212
01:01:44,680 --> 01:01:47,200
Speaker 1: Digitum digitum.

1213
01:01:46,840 --> 01:01:52,400
Speaker 2: Dititum boredom six and one, holy Cross seven and oh

1214
01:01:52,520 --> 01:01:57,240
Speaker 2: it's the bigin It is the big in here, patriotletgue

1215
01:01:57,240 --> 01:02:00,960
Speaker 2: football Week nine. Who you going with? Fordham, the Holy Cross,

1216
01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:01,760
Speaker 2: the Cross Saders.

1217
01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:04,680
Speaker 1: I'm going with Fordham. Is there a line for this one? Seriously?

1218
01:02:04,720 --> 01:02:05,840
Speaker 1: Is there an actual line?

1219
01:02:05,960 --> 01:02:07,400
Speaker 2: Ah? You put me on the spot. I'll have to

1220
01:02:07,400 --> 01:02:08,320
Speaker 2: see if I can find it.

1221
01:02:08,600 --> 01:02:12,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna see. Okay, Fordham versus Holy Cross odds and

1222
01:02:12,160 --> 01:02:16,520
Speaker 1: live scores. According to the Action Network, it doesn't look

1223
01:02:16,600 --> 01:02:17,600
Speaker 1: like there's a current.

1224
01:02:17,960 --> 01:02:19,840
Speaker 2: There will be by kickoff.

1225
01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:22,440
Speaker 1: There will be by kickoff. Yeah, but I'm not out

1226
01:02:22,480 --> 01:02:22,880
Speaker 1: of times.

1227
01:02:22,880 --> 01:02:25,680
Speaker 2: These don't come out until later, gotcha. Okay?

1228
01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:32,520
Speaker 1: Against the spread this year, holy Cross has been four

1229
01:02:32,560 --> 01:02:35,520
Speaker 1: and two as a favorite, Fordam one and four as

1230
01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:36,720
Speaker 1: a favorite as a dog.

1231
01:02:36,840 --> 01:02:37,960
Speaker 2: They can figure them out.

1232
01:02:38,480 --> 01:02:41,920
Speaker 1: Vegas does not have a read on either of these teams.

1233
01:02:42,600 --> 01:02:44,720
Speaker 1: So five and two against the spread, Holy Cross three

1234
01:02:44,800 --> 01:02:48,720
Speaker 1: and four against the spread, Foredom. So with the points,

1235
01:02:48,720 --> 01:02:50,280
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take Fordam here. Let's go.

1236
01:02:52,200 --> 01:02:53,880
Speaker 2: Crosssaders at home Utan Cross Saders.

1237
01:02:56,280 --> 01:02:57,200
Speaker 1: Okay, fair enough?

1238
01:02:57,960 --> 01:03:00,760
Speaker 2: That is it? For Week nine. Hope every everybody enjoyed

1239
01:03:00,760 --> 01:03:04,800
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1240
01:03:05,080 --> 01:03:10,280
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1252
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1253
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1254
01:04:01,360 --> 01:04:02,680
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1255
01:04:02,800 --> 01:04:06,400
Speaker 2: It's great, great programming. They do an awesome job, that

1256
01:04:06,560 --> 01:04:09,640
Speaker 2: is it. We went through more games today in this

1257
01:04:09,720 --> 01:04:11,760
Speaker 2: week nine show than I think we ever have before.

1258
01:04:12,080 --> 01:04:15,000
Speaker 2: We literally announced all of the Power five actions. So

1259
01:04:15,040 --> 01:04:17,520
Speaker 2: now you know when everything's being played what windows are important.

1260
01:04:18,040 --> 01:04:21,040
Speaker 1: Would it be fair to say that as a duo,

1261
01:04:21,680 --> 01:04:27,040
Speaker 1: as a team, we collectively decided to step up. I'm

1262
01:04:27,080 --> 01:04:29,640
Speaker 1: fighting for something that's real for the first time in

1263
01:04:29,760 --> 01:04:36,680
Speaker 1: my life, step up. I had to leave the tail

1264
01:04:36,800 --> 01:04:39,480
Speaker 1: end of that audio in because it was so dramatic

1265
01:04:40,480 --> 01:04:42,640
Speaker 1: and it was about Channing Tatum popping and locking.

1266
01:04:42,880 --> 01:04:46,080
Speaker 2: I love it. Yeah, yeah, I still like my Dragon,

1267
01:04:47,160 --> 01:04:49,600
Speaker 2: which is very loud and didn't play. I still like

1268
01:04:49,680 --> 01:04:54,400
Speaker 2: my Dragon, and I had plans throughout the course of this,

1269
01:04:54,440 --> 01:04:57,520
Speaker 2: and you're not a Game of Thrones guy. Yeah, to

1270
01:04:57,680 --> 01:05:02,240
Speaker 2: use this. That's when she tells the dragon too unleash.

1271
01:05:02,240 --> 01:05:02,760
Speaker 2: It's fire.

1272
01:05:03,920 --> 01:05:04,880
Speaker 1: Sounds super cool.

1273
01:05:06,600 --> 01:05:07,360
Speaker 2: I had planned.

1274
01:05:08,440 --> 01:05:08,680
Speaker 1: Cool.

1275
01:05:09,520 --> 01:05:11,680
Speaker 2: They invented their own language for the show. It is cool,

1276
01:05:12,760 --> 01:05:15,720
Speaker 2: so cool. That's all for that guy over there, my

1277
01:05:15,800 --> 01:05:19,720
Speaker 2: good friend Dan Rubinstein, for myself, Tie hilden Brandt. Enjoy

1278
01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:22,800
Speaker 2: your step up, your slay the Dragon, your Samoid Saturday,

1279
01:05:22,800 --> 01:05:25,640
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1280
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1282
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Speaker 2: or YouTube channel and the like. Hope you have a

1283
01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:38,000
Speaker 2: good weekend of watching college football. Don't forget to give

1284
01:05:38,040 --> 01:05:40,720
Speaker 2: the reverbal I a call at four eight verbal one.

1285
01:05:41,320 --> 01:05:43,800
Speaker 2: His name is Dan Rubinstein. My name is Ty hilden Brandt.

1286
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Speaker 2: Will talk to y'allson, Stay solid, Peace,