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Speaker 1: Welcome to the show. I'm your host, Bubba Dubb Everybody.

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Speaker 2: I got a legend in the buildings, man, Michael Irvin,

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Speaker 2: the Hall of Famer aka Playmaker, aka my daddy.

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Speaker 1: Damn it. Just what y'all be saying. This man is

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Speaker 1: my daddy.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the show, everybody.

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Speaker 3: Hey, I'm feeling great, man, I'm feeling great and and

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Speaker 3: I love that that that we're doing this show right

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Speaker 3: here at Playmakers And I'm looking out at this audience man,

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Speaker 3: and this is this is a beautiful group right here.

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Speaker 3: We we we We've got a beautiful group right here, Playmakers.

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Speaker 3: So I'm feeling great. Man. That's good.

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Speaker 2: Let's go and dive into it. Man, what my cowboy

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Speaker 2: fans have y'all make.

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Speaker 1: Some noise about.

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Speaker 3: We got him danger in the building.

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Speaker 1: This is cowboy Haven right here, most definitely is.

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Speaker 3: And that's what this is. Make no mistake about it.

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Speaker 3: When I first got here, I told everybody in the building.

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Speaker 3: I told them all, I said, we ain't selling, you know,

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Speaker 3: and we we We're.

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Speaker 1: Not a bar, not even a restaurant.

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Speaker 3: What we are in the business all is the Dallas

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Speaker 3: damn Cowboys. That's the first thing I told everybody. We're

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Speaker 3: in the business of the Dallas Cowboys. Damn.

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Speaker 2: So that's the head starting out for this season right here, Mike,

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Speaker 2: what you expected from the Cowboys?

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Speaker 3: To see what you expected? Well, when we get our

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Speaker 3: guys in camp, and we got to get our guys

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Speaker 3: in camp, and I know, and I want everybody to understand,

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Speaker 3: this is the game they play with our emotions all

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Speaker 3: the time. I've been on the other side of this.

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Speaker 3: You know, the great player in the owner, and they'll

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Speaker 3: fight all day, they'll fight all night, and the deal

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Speaker 3: won't get done until the slip of falls off Cinderella

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Speaker 3: and the carriage turns back into a pumpkin. But the

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Speaker 3: deal will get done.

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Speaker 1: For sure.

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Speaker 3: It'll be late, it'll be great, but the deal will

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Speaker 3: get done. And when we get our guys back in camp,

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Speaker 3: I'm expecting another good season. That means you'll go twelve

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Speaker 3: and five, you know, at worse, eleven and six or

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Speaker 3: twenty seven, but you'll get in the playoffs. Now, what

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Speaker 3: we do, that's the question. When we get in the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: Before we get to the playoffs like that, that feature

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Speaker 2: is up in the air right now. With a new

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Speaker 2: contract looming, what what what does contract situation does the

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Speaker 1: What does that do the psyche of a player? Right?

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Speaker 3: And and that's you know, that's a great way to

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Speaker 3: ask a question. And that's what people do on TV.

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Speaker 3: And I'm there all the time. I have to deal

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Speaker 3: with you know what I mean? Because you said that

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Speaker 3: futures up in the air. That future ain't up in

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Speaker 3: the air. Man, that got so much money. Man, he

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Speaker 3: on to get another one, so so so so theyboy

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Speaker 3: that we on TV's things to bring in a way.

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Speaker 1: But the reality is that shoots, you're not up in there.

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Speaker 3: He's going to be with the Cowboys at least this

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Speaker 3: year for sure, and and Dallas will figure something out

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Speaker 3: and to try to keep him long term us And

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Speaker 3: the only way they.

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Speaker 1: Will not do it is.

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Speaker 3: If Trey Lance is doing some incredible things in practice.

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Speaker 3: And you're saying, man, we gotta get this dude on

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Speaker 3: the football field. What have you seen from Trey Lance

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Speaker 3: so far? I haven't seen enough to say anything about

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Speaker 3: moving Doc, I'm just giving y'all knowledge to get ahead

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Speaker 1: So yeah, you're not just following the game.

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Speaker 3: But the reality is, no, Dak Prescott is our quarterback man,

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Speaker 3: and we need we need to make sure he's on

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Speaker 2: I'm glad you said that because you also have fans

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Speaker 2: and the NA sayer saying well, if that don't want

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Speaker 2: that bullshit because Trey Lance, ain't it not right now?

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Speaker 3: Right now?

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Speaker 1: Like I don't see those other quarterback.

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Speaker 2: Right now that can come in and lead the Dallas.

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Speaker 1: More besides that, well, there's a lot in that.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot in that it really is, guys, and

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Speaker 3: Doc is right now the best option we have if

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Speaker 3: we're ever going to talk about getting those things that

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Speaker 3: I have. The ring, that's what you're talking about, right No, no, no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 3: I ain't talking about the ring. I'm talking about the rings. Go.

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Speaker 3: But y'all, I tell people I'm an S brother. Everything

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Speaker 3: I've done, I won championships on every level, on levels

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Speaker 3: you put an S in it.

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Speaker 1: And then when you add you want a ring, no rings,

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Speaker 1: So you know I'm an s brother, so yes, yes, now, Now,

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Speaker 1: in order.

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Speaker 3: To be to win championships, it takes something different, It

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Speaker 3: takes something special.

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Speaker 1: You gotta have a deep bond. It's not that we.

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Speaker 3: Don't have the players with the skill. Our fault and

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Speaker 3: our shortcomings have been they don't have the collective will,

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Speaker 3: you see, And that's why we've come up short.

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Speaker 1: We need somehow, some way for those dudes to get.

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Speaker 3: That collective will to match their skill and then we

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Speaker 2: Some things done. Well, that's the thing you just said.

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Speaker 2: Rings we having want since you want. And that's the

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Speaker 2: problem right now that we're having as cowboy fans, as

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Speaker 2: years over the three rings that y'all want in the

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Speaker 2: timeframe that.

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Speaker 1: Y'all want them.

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Speaker 2: So what I'm saying is you got that right now,

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Speaker 2: you know. And then you got CD we haven't paid him.

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Speaker 2: Then you got Michael Parson. We got three components. Remember

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Speaker 2: it was eight em it in you and that's the

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Speaker 2: way I look at it now with Dak CV and

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Speaker 2: Michael Parson. You have to take care of those guys.

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Speaker 2: What are we waiting on to taking care of those

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Speaker 3: And that's a great segue to what we should be

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Speaker 1: Anyway. The reality is those top three guys.

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Speaker 3: Are incredible athletes man, incredible players, incredible players. But in

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Speaker 3: order for us to do something special, they all they

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Speaker 3: the top of the sphere. You know, to this day,

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Speaker 3: people ask all the time about my relationship with Troy

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Speaker 3: or my relationship with them, and we're best.

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Speaker 1: To this day, we're still great friends.

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Speaker 3: We've never had any kind of discourse to anything, having

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Speaker 1: It takes to do great things. To win championships.

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Speaker 3: You're going to be tested in your deepest will, and

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Speaker 3: if you're not together on that, then something to some

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Speaker 1: You're not going to succeed.

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Speaker 3: And those three guys man so gifted and so talented

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Speaker 1: To that damn quarterback. And we got it. We got it.

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Speaker 3: I just need them to get it together. They'll get

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Speaker 3: their money. I'm talking about getting to collect the wheels

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Speaker 3: together and let's get some championships around here, man, because

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Speaker 3: I'm tired of people talking about Kansas City and all

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Speaker 3: the Dallas Cowboys like like they should be.

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Speaker 2: Wait, well, you know I played receiver too, right, you

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I know. I was good until I got

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Speaker 3: Mike, Yeah, yeah, I know. I saw plenty of guys

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Speaker 3: you know, need some bad boys man in camp. Man,

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Speaker 3: they used to draft these dudes. I would call my ladies, say, hey,

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Speaker 3: And then we put on the pass and they throw

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Speaker 1: We good. You see what me?

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Speaker 3: Because there were a lot of guys that that that

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Speaker 3: then they did what you did?

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Speaker 1: What made you the play maker?

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Speaker 3: Are?

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Speaker 2: You wasn't the fastest, you know, it wasn't the greatest

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Speaker 1: But you a holler of.

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Speaker 2: Fame one that that that means something like what made

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Speaker 2: you the playmaker?

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Speaker 1: You know?

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Speaker 3: It's so funny at the game. I got that nickname

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Speaker 3: when I got to University of Miami. Uh, Jimmy was

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Speaker 3: Jimmy was talking about in a meeting, we.

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Speaker 1: Need some new playmakers.

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Speaker 3: We had just lost two top receivers, Eddie Brown, who

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Speaker 3: was all pro, and Stanley Shakespeare. Both guys had left

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Speaker 3: and and and I'll never forget right. I was watching

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Speaker 3: He said, everybody's wondering, what is Miami going to do

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Speaker 3: at wide receiver? He said, wait, that I showing Michael

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Speaker 3: ever and he walked off. He said, he just walked up.

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Speaker 3: I said, coach, I ain't gonna let you down, like yeah,

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Speaker 3: we went to practice. I was still hyped. I was whooping.

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Speaker 3: They rouse buddy practice, talking much knowing and then Winston

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Speaker 3: Mass I was just a freshman. Winston Moss said, boy,

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Speaker 1: From that point.

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Speaker 3: On, they've always called me that. They just called it

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Speaker 3: the playmaker. It's stuck. It's stuck because Jimmy was talking

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Speaker 1: That first Super Bowl run, y'all had?

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Speaker 3: What was that like? That year? Out of all the

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Speaker 3: things that God has allowed me to experience, and I've

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Speaker 3: had many great peaks and some low valleys, dude, I'll

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Speaker 3: tell you this, nothing's greater. Nothing's greater than winning that

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Speaker 3: first Super Bowl. Nothing. Because you gotta track back just

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Speaker 3: a little in history when we were I came here

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Speaker 3: graduated early with my degree in business. Back then, just

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Speaker 1: You smart, I'm there forteen.

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Speaker 3: Didn't If a team drafted me, I could drop a

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he told me that before, and I was like, yo, okay, coach,

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Speaker 3: But well it was to Tom Lambers had been a

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Speaker 2: How portant you know? You say, how important is the

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Speaker 1: And dude, he would nat he would be in meetings, sleep.

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Speaker 3: Like that, just like that.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, ego, wake up, man, wake up, wake up

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Speaker 1: He was a different dude.

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Speaker 3: Dog. He had what you call hit balance. No matter

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Speaker 1: Where'd it the other time?

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Speaker 2: You have to go to eight men or the coach

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Speaker 3: Dude, It's funny you said eight minute the coach and

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Speaker 3: you know I'm gonna assume you're talking about the head coach. Correct,

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Speaker 3: that's totally off limits. Whoa to me? The head coach

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Speaker 3: And what I think you know I wanted I made

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Speaker 1: I'll get the ball.

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Speaker 3: Don't worry about I got it. My concerns here with

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Speaker 3: what I mean, He's he certainly earned it all. Sure,

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Speaker 3: he certainly earned it all. But that playoff game, when

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Speaker 1: Dude, that that that was. That's that kind of stuff

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Speaker 3: You you can't do that and expect to have wins

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Speaker 3: or expect to winning games like that. That's what I'm

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Speaker 1: Who's the leader, who's the Dallas Cowboys to go.

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Speaker 2: To a ce and say, you know, hey, hey, I

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Speaker 3: Well, and that that's a great leader, and that was trying.

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Speaker 3: He was trying, and you know you I guess they didn't.

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Speaker 3: They never really got together and certainly didn't get together

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Speaker 1: That was trying.

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Speaker 3: He's trying, but but they as a team, you have

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Speaker 3: that because they're trying to put us in position to win.

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Speaker 1: We have to have order. And that's just the bottom line.

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Speaker 2: You think Zke gonna be able to help us out

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Speaker 3: I do think because he brings health, brings about that

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Speaker 1: Absolutely.

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Speaker 3: I told people years ago, a couple of years ago,

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Speaker 3: can't be an NFL team without any without a hammer.

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Speaker 3: Last year we were an NFL team with no hammer,

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Speaker 3: and you're not going to win things without a hammer.

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Speaker 2: What was your dislikes from last year team? Some things

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Speaker 3: Like that That was my biggest dislike That were the

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Speaker 2: I know we want to put the players, but can

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Speaker 3: Well?

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Speaker 1: The coach supposed to be illegal.

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Speaker 2: Right, At times it looked like Mike McCarthy is not

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Speaker 1: Well, the guys at leader has changed now.

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Speaker 3: You know, Jimmy, Jimmy years did Jimmy coach it was

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Speaker 1: You know, Jimmy was scared the.

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Speaker 3: Hell out of you, or like you're gonna never play

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Speaker 3: again and you ain't going anywhere and all of that.

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Speaker 3: You had to do whatever. But now these guys, you're

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Speaker 1: That makes sense, is it?

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Speaker 3: Any player in the game right now, remind you or

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Speaker 3: yourself there ain't none of them jokers that bad.

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Speaker 1: But they okay, you know what I'm saying. They okay.

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Speaker 3: And I heard all the time when people talk about

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Speaker 3: you know what I mean. And I only played half

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Speaker 3: of rings. You know what I'm saying. I only played nine,

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Speaker 3: he had eighteen, but we still got three rings. Correct, Correct,

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Speaker 3: you get what I'm saying. So yeah, it's all good.

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Speaker 2: If you played right now, today's time bought your stats

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Speaker 3: This pass, I wouldn't, dude, they don't have Michael Irvin,

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Speaker 3: and then they would have illegal.

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Speaker 1: But he lego did illegal because the way.

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Speaker 3: They throwing the ball, you can't even hit anybody until

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Speaker 3: That's what I was saying. The brothers, dude, I'm willing

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Speaker 3: as much as it hurt you.

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Speaker 1: When they hit you and you.

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Speaker 3: Talk about your trade the concussion for it, they don't

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Speaker 3: And that's all good.

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Speaker 1: That's all good. It's just a different game for sure.

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Speaker 1: Let's let's go a little step, fugger.

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Speaker 2: How was it making the transition from the NFL to

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Speaker 3: Like?

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00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:49,440
Speaker 1: What was that transition?

443
00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:54,840
Speaker 3: Like? Well, I've always expected to do exactly that. That

444
00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:58,960
Speaker 3: That's why my degree in those three years i major

445
00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:03,200
Speaker 3: in business man so many organization and my minders were

446
00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:08,040
Speaker 3: in communication. So I've always wanted to transition into talking

447
00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:11,960
Speaker 3: about the game, but not only talking about the game.

448
00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:14,280
Speaker 1: I want you to grasp the depth of it.

449
00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:17,960
Speaker 3: It's how do I use the game to try to inspire,

450
00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:21,879
Speaker 3: you know, give inspiration and motivation to other people.

451
00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:24,520
Speaker 1: That's the beauty of it because.

452
00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:29,919
Speaker 3: The game is so so so applicable to life in football,

453
00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:36,040
Speaker 3: like in basketball, individual isolated success Lebron can take the

454
00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:37,840
Speaker 3: ball and dunk it from one, take it off one

455
00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:40,040
Speaker 3: rem and dunket on the other. He does it all

456
00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:42,639
Speaker 3: by himself. Or you can stand at home plate and

457
00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:46,679
Speaker 3: slap a home run all by yourself. And golf, you

458
00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:51,000
Speaker 3: stand on the eighteen, you drop a pup all by yourself.

459
00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:57,440
Speaker 3: It's individual isolated success. That's nowhere in anything to do

460
00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:02,119
Speaker 3: with football. Do you have any individual isolated success? And

461
00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:06,520
Speaker 3: truth be known, ain't nowhere in anything that we all

462
00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:12,159
Speaker 3: do in life. Rather, it's organizations, companies, corporations, and certainly

463
00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:15,040
Speaker 3: the most important thing, family where you will have the

464
00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:18,840
Speaker 3: individual isolated success. It's going to require it. You worked

465
00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:21,639
Speaker 3: in with others, so I can take all the ins

466
00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:29,480
Speaker 3: and outs of football to help you in your daily life.

467
00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:32,920
Speaker 1: What has football done for you in your life?

468
00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:36,639
Speaker 3: You mean, besides get me out that hell hole of

469
00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:41,040
Speaker 3: a gettel at Miami when I was fifteenth or seventeen

470
00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:45,680
Speaker 3: kids and we ain't hading neton, you know what I mean?

471
00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:50,720
Speaker 3: It really has done everything though, you know, outside of

472
00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:55,200
Speaker 3: moving my family from one from one place to another,

473
00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,760
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, and doing all of that. Now, dude,

474
00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:01,879
Speaker 3: let me tell you I got I have probably five

475
00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:07,000
Speaker 3: summer homes in Florida. Literally about five summer homes in Florida.

476
00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:10,119
Speaker 3: I just got some of them. Negroes living in all

477
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:13,200
Speaker 3: of them. They won't leave. They've been living for free

478
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:16,920
Speaker 3: since nineteen eighty eight, you know, because that's what family does,

479
00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:17,920
Speaker 3: you know what I mean.

480
00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:21,880
Speaker 1: So what it is done for not just me, but.

481
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:25,600
Speaker 3: Being able to give my family a different kind of life.

482
00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:28,680
Speaker 3: It's what it really is.

483
00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:31,240
Speaker 1: You know. My sister bought me.

484
00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:36,000
Speaker 3: I remember a pair of sneakers from Kmart, and you know,

485
00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:38,439
Speaker 3: they were back in the day where they used to

486
00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:41,080
Speaker 3: have a big basket in the middle of k Mart

487
00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:44,480
Speaker 3: and the shoes just tied together and they throw them over.

488
00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:47,159
Speaker 3: You had to go find your size, and you know,

489
00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:51,440
Speaker 3: a dollar ninety nine. And I'll never forget I played basketball.

490
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:54,240
Speaker 3: I slid all over the court in them. But she

491
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:57,159
Speaker 3: bought them. And in the day I got drafted, she

492
00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:00,280
Speaker 3: looked at me, so don't remember them shoes. You got

493
00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:03,359
Speaker 3: a ball in a house, And I was like, you know,

494
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:06,160
Speaker 3: but I did give her a house, you know. So

495
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:08,760
Speaker 3: so so that that's what football has done, and it's

496
00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:12,160
Speaker 3: given me the opportunity to give my family a better life.

497
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:16,280
Speaker 2: I'm dealing with that now as you know, people see you,

498
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:18,760
Speaker 2: you know, me becoming successful. Now I got a lot

499
00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:22,880
Speaker 2: of family members never really had two words to say

500
00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:26,320
Speaker 2: to me, and now they got all these things. They

501
00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:28,919
Speaker 2: won't he fam can you do this and that? And

502
00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:31,560
Speaker 2: me never I'm not doing ship.

503
00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:33,320
Speaker 1: They ain't never done nothing.

504
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:36,600
Speaker 2: What was y'all that when I was, you know, struggling

505
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:38,720
Speaker 2: and really coming from the bottom trying to get to

506
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,680
Speaker 2: where I'm getting to Now, y'all wasn't there. Now y'all

507
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,320
Speaker 2: want to be around when we popping champagne and all that.

508
00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:46,880
Speaker 2: You can watch it on TV. Damn sure ain't gonna

509
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:48,080
Speaker 2: watch you here in person with me.

510
00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:52,679
Speaker 3: That's family though, that's family. I mean God or Mighty

511
00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:56,439
Speaker 3: is family. And and you know trus me out. The

512
00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:59,080
Speaker 3: white players don't have to deal with that. But why

513
00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:00,680
Speaker 3: is they don't let them get their.

514
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:01,280
Speaker 1: Money in God.

515
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:04,880
Speaker 3: They can get all their money and go. They family

516
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:08,800
Speaker 3: don't bother them, but our family will bother us. It's

517
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,280
Speaker 3: just what it is, man, because they figure they came

518
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:13,680
Speaker 3: through with you, like my family said, Man, I was

519
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:16,679
Speaker 3: there with you, you know, like the Bible said, I

520
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:19,159
Speaker 3: suffered with you. I should reign with you. Let me

521
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:23,760
Speaker 3: get some of these. And you know, I say okay.

522
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:27,520
Speaker 1: To that, that's cool. I respect that night.

523
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:30,160
Speaker 2: But like I say, mans, you know, like you say, man,

524
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:33,800
Speaker 2: family is everything. But also we know as well, family

525
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:35,359
Speaker 2: can be your worst downfall as.

526
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:38,800
Speaker 3: Well if you're not careful. If you're not careful, but

527
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 3: anyone can be a hard downfall. That's why the Bible

528
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:46,040
Speaker 3: says be careful not to connect with people that you're

529
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:49,480
Speaker 3: unequally yo. One thing or the other would happen. Either

530
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:52,840
Speaker 3: you're going to pull them up, are they're going to

531
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:56,040
Speaker 3: pull you down? So so you just got to remain.

532
00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:58,640
Speaker 3: It's not the connection, but you got to make sure

533
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,440
Speaker 3: that you're always pulling up and don't let them pull

534
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:01,800
Speaker 3: it down.

535
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:02,640
Speaker 1: For sure.

536
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 2: Now that you retire, I mean, how does it feel

537
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:07,720
Speaker 2: to be a Hall of Famer? Because not many players

538
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 2: be able to put on this gold jacket that we

539
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 2: see here? Miss me used to play a thousand of

540
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 2: players that played the game of football, but only a

541
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:19,119
Speaker 2: few it's got this jersey, I mean, this this gold

542
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 2: jacket right here.

543
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:20,919
Speaker 1: How does that feel?

544
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,359
Speaker 3: Dude? And and I just got I just wore the

545
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:25,600
Speaker 3: jacket in here because I leave tomorrow for the Hall

546
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:29,200
Speaker 3: of Fame and will have that first game with with

547
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:32,439
Speaker 3: Chicago and the Texans. So I'm so excited for the

548
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:37,560
Speaker 3: season and and everything. But but honestly be going to

549
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:38,200
Speaker 3: the Hall of Fame.

550
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:38,840
Speaker 1: I go every here.

551
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:41,160
Speaker 3: It's the greatest honor in the world for me because

552
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:44,919
Speaker 3: I get to see through the guys that I watch

553
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:49,200
Speaker 3: play the game. They're still arguing about games. They're still

554
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:52,679
Speaker 3: arguing about who who, who filed, who held who, and

555
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 3: who did what to who, So so you could see.

556
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 1: The love is never going to leave.

557
00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:00,880
Speaker 3: You know. When I see that y'all that are much

558
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 3: older than me and they still have the passion about

559
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:08,119
Speaker 3: arguing about a play that happened so long ago, I

560
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:12,680
Speaker 3: was like, oh, okay, all right, you don't ever lose that.

561
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:15,159
Speaker 3: And and that's what I love. I love going to

562
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:18,480
Speaker 3: honor those guys. That's why even in my restaurant right here,

563
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 3: I put I put the ring of honor above the bar.

564
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:23,120
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.

565
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 3: We can't ever get anywhere and do anything great unless

566
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 3: we're honoring.

567
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:30,479
Speaker 1: The grace that come before us.

568
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 3: That means we've allowed them to set the mark for

569
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,920
Speaker 3: what we should be doing. And if they're up there

570
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,560
Speaker 3: setting the Mark. Then we got nowhere to go but

571
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 3: up there also, so we have to honor that.

572
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:44,720
Speaker 2: I'm for to put you on the spot, Mike, give

573
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:46,480
Speaker 2: me your top five Gregor's receivers.

574
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 3: Ever. But that's a good question, man, and I play

575
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 3: with it like this. Since there's such a variance in

576
00:28:56,640 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 3: what is required considered on the RAF, all the different offenses,

577
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 3: I'll give it to you like this. I give you

578
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 3: my top five most inspired, the guys that inspired me

579
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 3: the most, and the guys that I that that helped

580
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 3: me pull to where I am the most. And I

581
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 3: will put number one b jed Rice. I mean he

582
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 3: was in my locker in college and in my locker

583
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 3: in the NFL.

584
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 1: You make no mistake about it now. I lost my father.

585
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 3: My junior year, going into my senior year of high school.

586
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:35,960
Speaker 3: My father never really watched me play, never watched me play.

587
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 3: But I grew up watching the Dallas Cowboys with my father,

588
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 3: and every time Clutch would make a play, he would

589
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 3: always look at me and said, that's how you played, son,

590
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 3: That's how you played.

591
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 1: Clutch was what we call Drew Bearson.

592
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 3: It was clutch.

593
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 1: That's how you play. That's clutch.

594
00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 3: That's cut then he called the hell Mayor, and you

595
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 3: know jamail Or Mary got all that. But but every

596
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 3: catch that I made in the NFL for the Dallas Cowboys,

597
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:12,080
Speaker 3: and it was just a propoem.

598
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:13,320
Speaker 1: I was wearing eighty eight.

599
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 3: Since my father never watched me play, I would always

600
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 3: think about the reaction he had to a play that

601
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 3: Drew Pearson me. You know what I mean.

602
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 1: When Drew made a.

603
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 3: Catch, I was and I would put that in my

604
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 3: head every time I made a play, So you know,

605
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 3: I of course I would put Drew Pearson in there.

606
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 3: I remember early on getting a chance to work out

607
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,640
Speaker 3: with Jim Cayley and Andre Red I remember him for

608
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 3: the Buffalo Bill. Dude, dude, I was. I was just

609
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 3: a young buck in college boy. I thought I was

610
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 3: it boy Andre Reid and Jill Kelly. That was everything.

611
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 3: Man to work out with those dudes, so I gotta throw.

612
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:59,640
Speaker 3: I put Andre Reid up in there. I warned him

613
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 3: an eight in high school for Kellen Winslow, and he's

614
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 3: a tight end, but I gotta put him in there

615
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 3: as a pass catcher. I'll put him in there, you know.

616
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 3: And since I always wanted to run fast, I never could,

617
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:16,240
Speaker 3: damn I gotta throw Tyreek Hill. Could you imagine if

618
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 3: I could run like Tyreek Hill, do, I would have

619
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 3: won four straight national championship?

620
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 1: What three?

621
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 3: Since I only played three years I was in that

622
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:27,120
Speaker 3: championship game and at least at least six straight championships

623
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:30,240
Speaker 3: in the pros. So I gotta put that kind of

624
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 3: speed in there.

625
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 2: What do you think defensive back go through trying to

626
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 2: defend Tyreek Hill right.

627
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 3: Now, it's impossible. I built my game on understanding the

628
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 3: angles of games and all of those things. So so

629
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 3: now you put that knowledge with speed, You're done. You

630
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 3: know what I mean? Tyreek Hill has such speed. I

631
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 3: never had the speed. I'm gonna beat you on that angle,

632
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 3: and I'm gonna beat you with this big body.

633
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 1: You just can't get around and get the ball.

634
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 2: But that would makes you great. You you know, Caulse,

635
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 2: we live in the know, we live in the world. Now.

636
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 2: It's Ali by speed for two four.

637
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 1: Yes, but that's because they can't hit you.

638
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 3: See. So now those guys were there when we were playing,

639
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 3: but they could hit you to separate you from the ball.

640
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 1: So they limited just like you put that Dodo in

641
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 1: your pants. Yeah, they were putting Dodo in their pans.

642
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 3: So now that they can't hit like that, ain't no

643
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 3: more Dodo in the pants. So that speed become dangerous. Man,

644
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 3: that speed become dangerous. And and yeah, I understand that's

645
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 3: why people wanted.

646
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 2: When you looked at your calendar as a Cowboy player,

647
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:40,600
Speaker 2: what what what team? You you know you didn't like

648
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 2: the most, Like you know what I'm feeling. I'm feeling.

649
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 2: You know I'm feeling. I know I got a dog

650
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 2: fight on my hand.

651
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 3: Well, it started out doing when I first got here.

652
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 3: Now y'all remember it was it was Cowboys and red

653
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 3: Skins and I don't I don't want nobody. Well, you

654
00:32:53,680 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 3: can't cancel me. And that was one of the best dog,

655
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 3: those Cowboy Redskin games.

656
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:06,720
Speaker 1: That was real dog. And then it was Dalel Green

657
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 1: the first year.

658
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 3: Let me tell you the first year I played and

659
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 3: Dale I was like, man, dale Green, he gonna play me?

660
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,959
Speaker 3: And Dale Green came out. That's oh my god, they

661
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 3: putting Dealel Green on me. You're right, he's small, and

662
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 3: and I went man, I went off. I had one

663
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:25,760
Speaker 3: hundred but I know six years, but I tell everybody

664
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 3: I caught. I think I called two touchdowns hundred sixty

665
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:30,720
Speaker 3: six yards or something in that game. I always say that,

666
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 3: But Dale Green got hurt early on. That was really

667
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 3: on somebody else, you know, the man I beat out

668
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:40,720
Speaker 3: some other joker. D All got hurt early, right it, dude.

669
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 3: But then I did get a chance to have some

670
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 3: pretty good games against Dyel Green. And he was the

671
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 3: man in the league at that time. He was the

672
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 3: Deon Sanders of the National Football League. And in that time,

673
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 3: you know, we had prison mentality. You go on the yard,

674
00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 3: you beat the baddest man on the yard, you become

675
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 3: the baddest man on How.

676
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 1: Was those battles with prime signs.

677
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 2: Not only when you played the district, but you also

678
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:09,359
Speaker 2: had to play with man practice against them as well.

679
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 1: What was those battles?

680
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 3: Like? You know, it's funny too and true true to

681
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:17,319
Speaker 3: form is the dudes that I battled against are my

682
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 3: best friends. Now, A lot of you not like Nias Williams,

683
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 3: and I always say to get my gold rings. I

684
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 3: went through gold jackets because I got followed on the

685
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:33,359
Speaker 3: whole football field by Nias Williams. Rod Woodson's their old

686
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:37,719
Speaker 3: greens baby getting left off the list of like Rob

687
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 3: Woodson was one.

688
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 1: Of the wares.

689
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:41,719
Speaker 2: He's one of what he want of them wars like

690
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:44,320
Speaker 2: come up enough rob.

691
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 3: Bad boy man, but now the baddest man in the

692
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:50,279
Speaker 3: world was then center for shure. Don't fool nobody, don't

693
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:53,359
Speaker 3: fool yourself on it. It was it was the deal

694
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 3: bad man. But all of those boys were bad boys

695
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 3: right there, man, all of them, and they're all great friends.

696
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 1: They go to Washington and speak.

697
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,400
Speaker 3: With Dy're all green right now. And when I go,

698
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:06,880
Speaker 3: I stayed at his house. I went to del Be.

699
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 3: I stayed in his house and he I said, Man,

700
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 3: what I'm gonna saying? He said, Man, you're gonna sleep

701
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:13,719
Speaker 3: over here. He put me in a bedroom in the

702
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 3: basement over the bed this is a true story. On

703
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 3: the top of the Joker's bed. He got a picture

704
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:22,839
Speaker 3: of him and there's something a ball in.

705
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:27,400
Speaker 1: Front of me. I said, I don't never remember this happened.

706
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:30,800
Speaker 3: He talked me, no dollar, all my students painted that

707
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 3: that ain't no real. I said, I know it ain't

708
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:35,279
Speaker 3: real because it never happened, you know, but you know,

709
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:37,360
Speaker 3: but he's my best friend.

710
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 1: Man.

711
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,839
Speaker 3: I loved there. I love them. That's that's my boy.

712
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 3: You go to my room right here. You see many

713
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 3: pictures of me and them. It's amazing. The guys that

714
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:49,920
Speaker 3: I battled the hardest against, now we seem to be

715
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 3: the best friends.

716
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 1: That's that's dope. That's that's dope, Mike. I expect to

717
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 1: think a lot.

718
00:35:56,280 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 2: But fast forwarding to now, Man, you becoming an entrepreneur now, man, Like,

719
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 2: what's life like after football?

720
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 3: Dude? Like, life is my life is all I've been

721
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 3: black school. I mean, I worked for the NFL making

722
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 3: some pretty good money since nineteen eighty for a long time.

723
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:23,400
Speaker 3: You know, I don't know how how I stayed in

724
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 3: so long. I just don't know how. I saw some

725
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:30,240
Speaker 3: good man fall by the wayside, you know what I'm saying.

726
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 3: But somehow God just kept me up there, man. So

727
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:36,719
Speaker 3: so that that's been a great world for me. Man,

728
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 3: it's been a great life because I'm just a puer

729
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:46,279
Speaker 3: football player. There's nothing to it. Without football, I would be, yeah,

730
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 3: not in a good place, you know what I mean.

731
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 3: I'm just a pure football player, man. So I'm thankful

732
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 3: that I had that opportunity to have that kind of

733
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 3: career on the field and then off the field. I mean,

734
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 3: I wont championships like I said at every level that

735
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 3: I played, and then I loved the school and one

736
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:07,839
Speaker 3: and God remember broadcasting Emmy saying, Okay, you were bad

737
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:10,279
Speaker 3: over here too, You know what I'm saying. So when

738
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 3: I look back over it.

739
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:15,880
Speaker 1: The history I have written, I'm pretty proud of.

740
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 2: And the reason why I bring that up because we

741
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:21,239
Speaker 2: were right here to day feeling at your spot. You know,

742
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:25,400
Speaker 2: Playmakers eighty eight. You know it's a great field, great atmosphere.

743
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 2: Like you said, you the ring thing over, the bar

744
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:31,319
Speaker 2: ring of honor thing, go right bar And because in

745
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 2: times Togay's time, we.

746
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:34,799
Speaker 1: See a lot of playoffs when they retired. They don't

747
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:35,840
Speaker 1: know how to transition.

748
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:40,799
Speaker 2: They don't know what the next step is and right,

749
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 2: and you know, I was just a reason why I

750
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 2: was bringing it up. You know, it's any kind of

751
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 2: encouragement you could give a BM more anything, but.

752
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 3: The hard part all of them have. And the hard

753
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 3: part is can you be determining? Can you can you

754
00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 3: dedicate yourself And it takes that to make it to

755
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:04,879
Speaker 3: the NFL. Now, we are so used to having our

756
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 3: lives schedule up all the time. It's all scheduled, so

757
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 3: this way, this way, when we leave football now we

758
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 3: got to figure out how do we schedule up our

759
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 3: life and and that's where guys fell, you know. So

760
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 3: I like to even try to help guys find out

761
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 3: what they're passionate about. You may not be as passionate

762
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:27,759
Speaker 3: about it as football, but it gives you something that

763
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:30,279
Speaker 3: you can focus on and direct yourself to.

764
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:33,360
Speaker 2: Like in the off season when football was over, what

765
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:35,360
Speaker 2: was you doing in the off season?

766
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 1: What was like when I was playing?

767
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:40,440
Speaker 3: I was crazy, man, Jimmy used to do you know

768
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 3: the season ended in February when a Super Bowl, and

769
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 3: so that means my birthday was March fifth, right, So

770
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:53,719
Speaker 3: to me, I had about a month to wow the

771
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 3: hell out, and Jimmy would always say, hey, y'all get

772
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:00,880
Speaker 3: away from football, go a a blast.

773
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:04,960
Speaker 1: I said, you're better believe it. Right about that month.

774
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:11,279
Speaker 3: About that month, boy, boy, hey, I had walked ten

775
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 3: toes down while I was out there. Boy, I ain't

776
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 3: gonna lie to you. I was out and I would

777
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:20,280
Speaker 3: always throw my last party on my birthday, right, wilding

778
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:22,959
Speaker 3: out Marsh fifth that last day and then March sixth,

779
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 3: I'm back to training. Yeah, back to training, boy. It

780
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:31,279
Speaker 3: was you know, yeah, yeah, that was always who I

781
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:34,280
Speaker 3: can't even talk about them stories. Yeah, them good days.

782
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 2: Right, Like this part of the show when we do

783
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 2: the hell now said, I'm gonna ask you a couple

784
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 2: of questions you can't give us.

785
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 3: Hell naw, oh boy, I got you. Okay.

786
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:45,880
Speaker 1: Do you eat mushrooms?

787
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 3: Oh? Hell no, no, sirt rebot. But I wouldn't say this,

788
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 3: I really don't. And my boy, all j he said,

789
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 3: to me, let me make you something. He made the

790
00:39:56,600 --> 00:40:01,799
Speaker 3: mushrooms burger Burger. Put some dude the burger that was.

791
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:03,839
Speaker 3: It was a great burger. I said, you gotta make

792
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:05,840
Speaker 3: sure you put that burger on the menu. You know

793
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. And I've never eat mushrooms never. I

794
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:12,359
Speaker 3: just can't take that that slimming like hmm. No, y'all

795
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 3: know what. I can't take it in my mouth.

796
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:17,239
Speaker 1: So no, that ship just nasty, period. Do you ask it?

797
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 1: Do you ever see yourself being an NFL head coach?

798
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:25,279
Speaker 1: Hell no, not that I couldn't do it.

799
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:29,720
Speaker 3: I would be an excellent head coach, an excellent head coach.

800
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:32,400
Speaker 3: But the more I whoop your ass, the more you

801
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 3: gonna dig into my ad, you know, digging the mind.

802
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:37,040
Speaker 3: You're gonna dig it into my past, and you're gonna

803
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 3: be bringing that stuff up, and I just want you

804
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 3: to break all that up. So I'm gonna say, see,

805
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 3: dem I tell you he's perfect for it. DM's perfect

806
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 3: for it. You don't never dream, never smoke. They don't

807
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:52,759
Speaker 3: do anything. They can dig all they want, they won't

808
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 3: find anything. Speaking, Yeah, I don't want them dead bodies

809
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 3: to start rising again. I don't need it.

810
00:40:59,200 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 1: No speaking.

811
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,160
Speaker 2: The coach Prime, I just left him. He gave me

812
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 2: a gym. He told me something.

813
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:04,359
Speaker 1: He put me to the.

814
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:07,400
Speaker 2: Side and said, look, well, with the where you from

815
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:09,359
Speaker 2: a lot of the people, a lot of people are

816
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 2: not gonna see who you become.

817
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 1: They only see you who you used to be. Yeah,

818
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 1: and real depth. That stuck with me.

819
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 2: When you told me that, it made sense, no matter

820
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:22,240
Speaker 2: what you go and do in life, to certain people,

821
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:23,840
Speaker 2: you only gonna be this certain person.

822
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:25,800
Speaker 1: They only gonna see you just certain way.

823
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 2: So like you say, when you left Miami back you

824
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 2: know where you was, and go to the NFL and

825
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 2: do good.

826
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 3: They only did.

827
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 1: Some people only just see see you as.

828
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 2: Just Mike just got to come from the struggle or this,

829
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 2: that and the third how did you juggle that coming

830
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 2: from your upbringing into fame and money.

831
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:48,280
Speaker 3: Time and I used to talk about that all the time,

832
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 3: Dion call him time. We used talk about that all

833
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 3: the time, and we talked about sometimes even looking at

834
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:57,920
Speaker 3: it on the other side, you know, why do they

835
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:00,879
Speaker 3: do that? Not just that at how, but why do

836
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:04,399
Speaker 3: they do it? And and we surmise this like sometimes

837
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 3: people for their own sake and their own sanity, have

838
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 3: to say, oh man, you just that dude that grew

839
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 3: I grew up with because they look and they they

840
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:17,759
Speaker 3: may be in conflict because they didn't do it.

841
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:21,560
Speaker 1: So the only way they can make peace with where

842
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 1: they are it is to remind them.

843
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:26,800
Speaker 3: Do you just like me? You know you nobody special?

844
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 3: You know that kind of stuff. So so so I

845
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:32,800
Speaker 3: understand it. I don't take to it, you know what

846
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 3: I mean, because it is what it is. It's most

847
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:40,359
Speaker 3: of the time the mentalities that keep us where we are. Well,

848
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:44,280
Speaker 3: if we can raise our mentality, we can raise our reality. Correct,

849
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 3: that's for real. So yeah, we talk We used to

850
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:49,440
Speaker 3: talk about that all the time. So you still go

851
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 3: back home and try the encourage. You know, you're gonna

852
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:55,359
Speaker 3: deal with them, brothers. I'll laugh with them and then

853
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:57,920
Speaker 3: try to lift them up and share with them later. Boy,

854
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:00,919
Speaker 3: come on, man, you know what I mean that. Don't

855
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:03,839
Speaker 3: hate on her. Brother. You got something in you, Let's

856
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:05,759
Speaker 3: go get it and try to pull it out of you.

857
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 3: But yeah, that a lot of times it's just the

858
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 3: only way they can make peace with themselves.

859
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 2: Do you when you say you, do you be brutally

860
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 2: honest with people when they ask you certain things about them?

861
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:17,919
Speaker 3: Hey?

862
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 1: Man, do you think I can do this and that?

863
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 1: Do you be brutally honest with them?

864
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:26,759
Speaker 3: But I'm going to be honest now my delivery, I'm

865
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:29,279
Speaker 3: going to deliver it in a way that hopefully I'm

866
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:32,759
Speaker 3: going to be most effective. You know, I'm gonna communicator.

867
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 3: I understand, the greatest gift, the gift of communication is

868
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 3: not just the words that I put. It's also how

869
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 3: the one that is receiving those words received. So I

870
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 3: want to make sure that I'm educated on both sides

871
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 3: of it, you know. So I want to deliver something

872
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:53,359
Speaker 3: good for you, something good to you, but I have

873
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 3: to make sure I know how I'm delivering it so

874
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 3: it can be good for you and good to you.

875
00:43:58,360 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm.

876
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:02,480
Speaker 3: Monging to not just what I say but also how

877
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:04,840
Speaker 3: I say it because I want to be most effective.

878
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:07,880
Speaker 1: That's the reason why I asked that.

879
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:09,480
Speaker 2: Because I have a lot of people hit me up

880
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 2: all the time, tell me they want to be commedian

881
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 2: like true story, I had my I had my pastor

882
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 2: hit me up, tell me he gave me up a committee.

883
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 2: I said, nigga, stop, ain't nothing about you funny, bro?

884
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:21,920
Speaker 1: Like what makes.

885
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:24,480
Speaker 3: You want to be right? Right?

886
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:27,439
Speaker 2: I thought, you can deliver the word, but you can't

887
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 2: deliver the jokes, like, let's be reasonable.

888
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:30,440
Speaker 3: Don't get on.

889
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 1: Her line saying God called, you could tell jokes.

890
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:34,880
Speaker 3: Or you know, right right?

891
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:35,440
Speaker 1: But I don't know.

892
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 3: I don't know anybody that don't think they're funny.

893
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:39,919
Speaker 1: Everybody think they That's what.

894
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 3: I'm saying, is just your level of funny ain't gonna

895
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:44,360
Speaker 3: get you no money.

896
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying.

897
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 3: Your level of funny will get you some money. His

898
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 3: level of funny won't get him any money, but he

899
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:52,440
Speaker 3: thinks he's.

900
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 2: Funny for sure. Get on the stage until they got

901
00:44:57,640 --> 00:44:58,799
Speaker 2: the people in front of a.

902
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:02,239
Speaker 3: Whole different pair then the people who say yeah, and

903
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:05,279
Speaker 3: then most most people will think that just wasn't the

904
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:09,239
Speaker 3: right art on us before they think they're not funny.

905
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 2: They say a lot too, but then like you say,

906
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:13,759
Speaker 2: when they get into the audience that they won't.

907
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 1: It's the same thing every time.

908
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 2: Like people understand, being and stand up comedians one of

909
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 2: the hardest thing in the world to do it because

910
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:23,840
Speaker 2: you have to entertain people have along you're on stage.

911
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 1: You have to entertain people. People swap their hard earn money.

912
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 1: They want to last. Right in this business with the.

913
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 2: Internet world going on, If you go out there and

914
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:35,840
Speaker 2: do a show and you like bomb, it's going viral,

915
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:38,440
Speaker 2: they gonna post it, they gonna show everybody, look this

916
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 2: guy in what y'all think you is? So I feel

917
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:42,440
Speaker 2: like being a stand up comedian is one of the

918
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 2: hardest things that you could ever.

919
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:47,359
Speaker 3: Do, correct man, because think about it, you don't even

920
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:50,359
Speaker 3: know the audience that's coming in, you know what I mean.

921
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 1: You gotta you.

922
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:53,760
Speaker 3: Don't know if your joke's gonna vibe with the audience

923
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:55,839
Speaker 3: that you got to come in. And so you see

924
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 3: a different audience, then you have to adjust your jokes

925
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:01,320
Speaker 3: if you're you know what I mean, that ain't no

926
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 3: easy thing to do on the flock. And so so

927
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 3: you gotta connect that is that I wouldn't want the

928
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 3: job I want.

929
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:14,720
Speaker 1: But in every genre now you gotta entertain. Correct.

930
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 3: You know, we used to be even in the business

931
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:21,839
Speaker 3: that you're entering now, sports analysis, sports broadcasting, it used

932
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 3: to be.

933
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:25,399
Speaker 1: About delivering information, you know what I mean.

934
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:28,359
Speaker 3: But the reality is we get all the information on

935
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:31,759
Speaker 3: these very things we call the smartphones, and so now

936
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 3: you have to make sure in order to home people,

937
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:39,920
Speaker 3: you have to entertain people. Then you try to educate people,

938
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:43,400
Speaker 3: and you hope to edify people. I got an argument

939
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 3: with someone one time on TV about the steven a

940
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 3: Steve A. Smith said to me one day, I said, man,

941
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 3: our job is to entertain, educate, and edify. He said,

942
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:57,520
Speaker 3: wait a minute, you messed up. Educate and edify means

943
00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:00,920
Speaker 3: the same thing. That's how beg to differ. Educate means

944
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:05,160
Speaker 3: I gather knowledge. I gain knowledge. Edification mean the knowledge

945
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 3: I gather made me a better person. You see what

946
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:10,360
Speaker 3: I'm saying. So that's what I'm talking about the depth

947
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 3: of the conversation.

948
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 2: This is part of the show where we're gonna pass

949
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:15,759
Speaker 2: the michaerophone around. Y'all can ask any question that you

950
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:17,359
Speaker 2: want to ask. I gonna give a damn what it

951
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 2: is asking, We're gonna answer the best way we can.

952
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 2: And once again from me and Mike, we wanna thank

953
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:26,240
Speaker 2: y'all personally for coming out and hanging with us tonight.

954
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 3: Man.

955
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 1: Hello, my name is Keisa Jackson. Nice to meet you,

956
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:32,919
Speaker 1: Nice to meet you. Also, nice to meet you, missus Jackson.

957
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:38,879
Speaker 2: Nice to meet you, Jaxon, you know, guys talking to.

958
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:43,240
Speaker 5: Okay, So, first of all, thank you for the invite,

959
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:46,239
Speaker 5: thank you for all that you've done within the DFW community.

960
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:53,840
Speaker 5: My question is about financial literacy as well as generational wealth.

961
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:59,800
Speaker 5: Me being a mother of a NFL player eight years

962
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 5: veteran shout out to Jalen Mill's Green Goblin. So my

963
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:08,920
Speaker 5: question is what is it that you think that we

964
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:12,640
Speaker 5: need to do as a community to continue generational wealth?

965
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:14,160
Speaker 1: And I'm not, like, what.

966
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:15,279
Speaker 2: The is it?

967
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 6: Nio NIO.

968
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 5: Now, college players are allowed to receive funds, so I

969
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:25,360
Speaker 5: think that that's great, but are we teaching them about

970
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:26,360
Speaker 5: generational wealth?

971
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:28,160
Speaker 1: What do you think that.

972
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:31,239
Speaker 5: We should do as parents to make sure that our

973
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 5: children are not just out here wilding out, you know,

974
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:39,800
Speaker 5: depleting their funds and then not in the NFL anymore.

975
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:45,760
Speaker 5: And no longer have those funds to subside that income

976
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:49,399
Speaker 5: or lifestyle that they've been accustomed to. So you, as

977
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:53,719
Speaker 5: Michael Irving, who has created that for your family, what

978
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:58,240
Speaker 5: advice would you give to us as parents with upcoming

979
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 5: athletes on how to make sure that they are not

980
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:05,279
Speaker 5: just spending their money, but making sure that it is

981
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 5: being generated.

982
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:08,800
Speaker 1: To make sure they have generational.

983
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:10,920
Speaker 3: Well, that's a great that's a question. It's a great question.

984
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 3: There's something all I seriously we struggle with. We struggle

985
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:25,680
Speaker 3: with now. It's so amazing. I said before, my major

986
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:29,360
Speaker 3: is business. You have to understand business. There's a reason

987
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:34,080
Speaker 3: we call money currency because money, truly don't have a

988
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:38,000
Speaker 3: strong economy, must flow. I'm going to go a little

989
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:41,480
Speaker 3: left on this. We hear places like what they call

990
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 3: a Korean town. Everybody in the Korean town is being

991
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 3: successful because they keep the money in the community. Money

992
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:57,320
Speaker 3: flows in that community. All the businesses are doing well,

993
00:49:57,440 --> 00:49:59,839
Speaker 3: the people in the community are doing well. If money

994
00:49:59,840 --> 00:50:03,439
Speaker 3: is flawing, they have jobs, they're working, they're spending money

995
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 3: in the community, and money is flowing. So that Korean

996
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:09,360
Speaker 3: town is prosperous. You're gonna have a China town. Same

997
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:13,320
Speaker 3: thing they're making money with jobs or everything. Money is flowing.

998
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:16,120
Speaker 3: Money is flowing, money is flowing, So that means that's

999
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:20,720
Speaker 3: a prosperous community. When we all get together, we don't

1000
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:23,759
Speaker 3: spend in the same community. We make money and take

1001
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:27,280
Speaker 3: it outside the community, so the money really doesn't flow,

1002
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:32,920
Speaker 3: So we don't have those great communities because we're spending

1003
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:37,720
Speaker 3: with each other. You ask about passing down generational wealth.

1004
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 3: I attend conferences and speak with financial guys that are

1005
00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:45,280
Speaker 3: in charge of families worth billions and billions of dollars,

1006
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:48,160
Speaker 3: and they take time to speak to the kids of

1007
00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:51,560
Speaker 3: those families about the wealth that they're going to be coming.

1008
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:55,160
Speaker 1: Into when they're kids, when they're kids.

1009
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 3: So these families have been doing this for generations, most

1010
00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:02,840
Speaker 3: of us, most of us, and I was kidding earlier

1011
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:04,920
Speaker 3: us and man, white players don't have to deal with this.

1012
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 3: White players don't have to deal with that. I was

1013
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:11,839
Speaker 3: jokingly serious because they really don't. But the reality is

1014
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:15,760
Speaker 3: they don't because their family has been in that cycle

1015
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:19,239
Speaker 3: that you're asking me about. We are the first to

1016
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:22,680
Speaker 3: put our families in that cycle. Now you see what

1017
00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 3: I mean. So now when we get that wealth, we

1018
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 3: have to make sure since I'm going to spend it

1019
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:33,280
Speaker 3: with my family, I gotta make sure they understand that wealth.

1020
00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:35,879
Speaker 3: I'm just going to tell you I'm not gonna leave

1021
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:38,880
Speaker 3: that joker, you know what I mean? The reality, Like

1022
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:42,680
Speaker 3: everything I make, I don't make it, it goes to

1023
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:45,920
Speaker 3: the micro orger, it goes to the urban dynasty trust.

1024
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 3: Every day ervin dynasty Trust, You're not gonna hit me

1025
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:53,040
Speaker 3: with taxes. You're not gonna hit me with death taxes

1026
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:57,160
Speaker 3: death taxes because the dynasty Trust is all of my

1027
00:51:57,320 --> 00:52:01,000
Speaker 3: family members. So when I pass on on to become

1028
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:04,919
Speaker 3: another conservative, who is be my oldest daughter. But I'm

1029
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:09,000
Speaker 3: not You're not going to drag out our death taxes

1030
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:12,360
Speaker 3: and take away half of my estate. You're not going

1031
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:16,000
Speaker 3: to hit me every time I give my mother some money.

1032
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:19,680
Speaker 3: If I give my mother five a thousand, three easy numbers.

1033
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:21,920
Speaker 3: If I give her a thousand dollars of my tax

1034
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:25,200
Speaker 3: bracket is way up there, that's like giving her fifteen

1035
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:27,960
Speaker 3: hundred dollars. But if I give her within this trust

1036
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:31,319
Speaker 3: a thousand dollars, then I can present to her the

1037
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:33,919
Speaker 3: tax papers that she can pay it at her tax rate,

1038
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:37,439
Speaker 3: which is a lot less than fifty percent or for you. See,

1039
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:39,920
Speaker 3: I'm saying so so so so Now it's just not

1040
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:43,839
Speaker 3: what I make, it's how I dispense what I make.

1041
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:47,120
Speaker 3: This is where we have to go. This is what

1042
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:51,040
Speaker 3: we have to understand in order to create what you're

1043
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:55,480
Speaker 3: talking about generational wealth. Are all we're going to do

1044
00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:58,080
Speaker 3: is leave money to somebody's gonna run through it.

1045
00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:02,160
Speaker 5: I refuse to do that, right, So okay, So one

1046
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:05,440
Speaker 5: more question. So I think even with you saying trust,

1047
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:09,239
Speaker 5: I don't think a lot of people understand when you

1048
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:13,319
Speaker 5: reach a certain stature in life as far as your

1049
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:18,399
Speaker 5: finances about creating trust. Like I understand that creating most

1050
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:19,719
Speaker 5: people don't understand.

1051
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 1: Can you just elaborate on that?

1052
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 3: Just whate? Thus protects me against craziness?

1053
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 1: Right it does.

1054
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:34,160
Speaker 3: Now, let me tell you got something you remember? Unfortunately

1055
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:39,560
Speaker 3: y'all use a horrific event to explain something. Here. You

1056
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:44,480
Speaker 3: remember all of the OJ Simpson stuff, and then the

1057
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:48,919
Speaker 3: Goldman is sue OJ Simpson. Excuse me, They sued OJ

1058
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:53,359
Speaker 3: Simpson and they won, so they're able to take everything

1059
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:57,880
Speaker 3: he has. But they couldn't get that forty five thousand

1060
00:53:57,920 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 3: dollars a month. He got a thirty five whatever he

1061
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:05,879
Speaker 3: got they got the isen. They get is he hit it,

1062
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:08,800
Speaker 3: but it's okay. But they but also ain't get the hiding.

1063
00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:13,080
Speaker 3: But they couldn't break that trust, the true they couldn't

1064
00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:15,919
Speaker 3: stop at forty thousand dollars a month. He got away

1065
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:19,440
Speaker 3: because he put it in the trust. It protects you

1066
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:25,479
Speaker 3: against all things and everything. And we gotta get that

1067
00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:30,000
Speaker 3: kind of financial literacy going on in our community to

1068
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:33,719
Speaker 3: understand those kinds of things so that we can be successful.

1069
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:35,880
Speaker 1: We make, we make the money.

1070
00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:38,600
Speaker 3: We come with the most creative people in the world.

1071
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:40,239
Speaker 3: We come up, we come up.

1072
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:41,160
Speaker 1: With great ideas.

1073
00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 3: We put the TVs in the back of headset and rest,

1074
00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 3: but we don't understand the reality of putting the pattern

1075
00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:52,960
Speaker 3: on things before we start putting on Instagram ensuring everybody.

1076
00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:56,440
Speaker 3: And then the other man steals it and he says

1077
00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:57,640
Speaker 3: he puts a pattern on it.

1078
00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:00,719
Speaker 1: And because we put the hose and the roof.

1079
00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:03,800
Speaker 3: Of the car to put life through, but then rose

1080
00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:05,920
Speaker 3: worst took here to put a pattern on it, and.

1081
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:07,680
Speaker 1: I'm making all the money with it.

1082
00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:12,279
Speaker 3: This is the difference between winning and losing, and us

1083
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:16,160
Speaker 3: we have all the ability to create it, we just

1084
00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 3: don't know how to solidify it.

1085
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:26,440
Speaker 1: Okay, ma'am. You say your son is the n f L.

1086
00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:30,960
Speaker 1: He yes, tell him the story. Put this trust in hose.

1087
00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:34,360
Speaker 2: Oh he hasn't got got to trick this ship.

1088
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:41,640
Speaker 1: Back to the whole. I know your mother, and I

1089
00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:42,360
Speaker 1: know you won't.

1090
00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:45,480
Speaker 2: Get best, but your man gotta trust in the holes

1091
00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:49,360
Speaker 2: that my son is killing me.

1092
00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:51,160
Speaker 3: If I like that.

1093
00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:57,200
Speaker 1: It shook somebody head. And so how you doing. I'm

1094
00:55:57,200 --> 00:55:59,960
Speaker 1: trying to know in a hole too, And we understand

1095
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:02,200
Speaker 1: what you said. Shaw, I do I call you? What

1096
00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:05,319
Speaker 1: do I call you? Plot micher? Go ahead on with that.

1097
00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:08,319
Speaker 3: He was. Now when I first got here, I had

1098
00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:12,239
Speaker 3: this car and you couldn't put the whole word playmaker

1099
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:16,319
Speaker 3: on it. And it was a little BMW man M three.

1100
00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:19,680
Speaker 3: First thing y'all. The first time you textans ever saw

1101
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:23,200
Speaker 3: chrome rims and I didn't even put any ten on

1102
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:25,920
Speaker 3: the one. You had that fight with Ricky Dixon right

1103
00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:28,240
Speaker 3: right right right right round.

1104
00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:29,040
Speaker 1: Oh I did, I did?

1105
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:31,759
Speaker 3: I did. I had a fight when my tag it

1106
00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:35,239
Speaker 3: said ply maker because I couldn't put playmaker all under

1107
00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:36,160
Speaker 3: to take all the world.

1108
00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:38,719
Speaker 1: And he always called me that the.

1109
00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:42,479
Speaker 7: Plot miker somebody. So you just spoke on something about

1110
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:46,239
Speaker 7: the trust, but I didn't know. And I'm rookie. I

1111
00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:49,120
Speaker 7: walk in the locker room and Gene i'm shawwalks in.

1112
00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:53,080
Speaker 7: He's the writer of the NFL p A, and so

1113
00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:55,120
Speaker 7: we don't know about the CBA, which is a collective

1114
00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:55,960
Speaker 7: barkaining agreement.

1115
00:56:56,320 --> 00:56:58,839
Speaker 1: Gene i'm shaw walked in that building, right.

1116
00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:03,160
Speaker 3: What happened, well, well, Jeane was this is the first

1117
00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:07,719
Speaker 3: time they were introducing the salary cap. Exactly, this is

1118
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:10,920
Speaker 3: the first time they were introducing the salary cap. As

1119
00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:12,640
Speaker 3: I said to you guys, probably I'm a I'm a

1120
00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:16,640
Speaker 3: I'm a Prince football player. I understood what they were doing.

1121
00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:20,000
Speaker 3: And I don't know that all of my teammates understood

1122
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:24,600
Speaker 3: whether we did not. And I said, here's the gesture

1123
00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:29,000
Speaker 3: of what they're doing. I said, they're asking now too.

1124
00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:31,920
Speaker 3: In order to pay one player, I gotta take it

1125
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:35,400
Speaker 3: from the other. But now us in the locker room,

1126
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:39,200
Speaker 3: we gotta have a bond. But each man is going

1127
00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:41,480
Speaker 3: to be here well in order to pay Mike girl.

1128
00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:42,600
Speaker 3: And I'm gonna take money.

1129
00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:44,400
Speaker 1: From you, you, you, you, you and the middle man.

1130
00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:47,440
Speaker 3: And I said, the middleman is going to lose in this.

1131
00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:53,040
Speaker 3: And I said, Gene, that's fucked up. I said, fucked up.

1132
00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:57,320
Speaker 3: That's not right? Is rightnked and walked up the stairs.

1133
00:57:57,320 --> 00:57:59,160
Speaker 3: Well I wasn't but may when I walked in, But

1134
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:01,360
Speaker 3: I did show on my ass when I walked out.

1135
00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:04,800
Speaker 3: You know what I mean, because I told him my

1136
00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:07,600
Speaker 3: job was to bill Champion and I got to build

1137
00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:11,600
Speaker 3: men together, and you just made my job more difficult

1138
00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:13,080
Speaker 3: because now I gotta.

1139
00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:14,560
Speaker 1: Take from one man to pay another.

1140
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:17,640
Speaker 3: And that man cares about his family and he wants

1141
00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:19,680
Speaker 3: to feed his family, and he's going to.

1142
00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:22,640
Speaker 1: Hear that I had to take his money to give to.

1143
00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:24,800
Speaker 3: You, and I gotta be in the hunted with that man.

1144
00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:27,160
Speaker 3: It was fucked up the whole primise of what he

1145
00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:29,800
Speaker 3: gave that. It was just the reality. And my other

1146
00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:33,360
Speaker 3: brothers didn't understand it. But I spread the Matthew, Mark

1147
00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:36,840
Speaker 3: Luke and John foll the Matthew just so God spelled

1148
00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:39,200
Speaker 3: for all and they got it for sure.

1149
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:44,800
Speaker 2: So, Bubba, you were saying you played footballer, You was

1150
00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:46,560
Speaker 2: like heating towards earlier.

1151
00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:47,920
Speaker 3: Along the lines of life.

1152
00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:50,840
Speaker 1: Were you trying to say that you can hold on?

1153
00:58:51,640 --> 00:58:56,040
Speaker 8: You saying because I hold the hall of family? I

1154
00:58:56,760 --> 00:58:59,360
Speaker 8: was living along the lines at this age there was

1155
00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:02,080
Speaker 8: something that you said. I'm trying to hold my girl.

1156
00:59:03,160 --> 00:59:07,240
Speaker 8: Can you at this age right now today, right now?

1157
00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:12,520
Speaker 1: Hell, y'all shot right now, but you got a shot

1158
00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:16,200
Speaker 1: right now, right now. These ain't having it.

1159
00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:17,800
Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you all the story. Man, I played

1160
00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:21,200
Speaker 2: cornerback in high school, loddh and that cut you out.

1161
00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:23,080
Speaker 1: I was small. I don't be honest with you, g

1162
00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:25,440
Speaker 1: you ain't holding up today.

1163
00:59:25,480 --> 00:59:25,880
Speaker 3: Right up?

1164
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:30,760
Speaker 1: Ship out at all? It ain't hey, hey, look at

1165
00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:33,680
Speaker 1: his arms like it's party. You know. It ain't never

1166
00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:35,840
Speaker 1: beat no damn body. It's a TV.

1167
00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:38,960
Speaker 3: And the legs, these knees ain't going for it right now.

1168
00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:41,840
Speaker 1: The es ain't going for it. Boy.

1169
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:44,440
Speaker 3: I used to mess with jokers when I was playing

1170
00:59:44,520 --> 00:59:47,240
Speaker 3: right and then jot, I said, man, I used to

1171
00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:49,840
Speaker 3: see brothers. I said, y'all just lift it waiting. The

1172
00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:52,880
Speaker 3: muscles ain't functional. That's why I used to say to

1173
00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:55,280
Speaker 3: them jokers, because they want to be just curly little.

1174
00:59:55,480 --> 00:59:58,440
Speaker 1: I said, Nick, God, Nick, you ain't functional, you.

1175
00:59:58,560 --> 01:00:01,680
Speaker 3: Just got muscles. But but now I'm that dude, I

1176
01:00:01,720 --> 01:00:04,560
Speaker 3: think a better question. Ain't talk like that, you know

1177
01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:06,280
Speaker 3: what I mean? The needs can't move like that.

1178
01:00:06,280 --> 01:00:08,880
Speaker 1: You know y'all should do a pros verse done. You

1179
01:00:08,920 --> 01:00:10,120
Speaker 1: think you could be in basketball?

1180
01:00:10,160 --> 01:00:19,520
Speaker 2: Maybe yeah, proo yeah, something something, because I ain't gonna lieut.

1181
01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:23,080
Speaker 1: I'm just looking at y'all. Look out ya you know,

1182
01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:27,080
Speaker 1: look at his arms. I'm good for about five minutes.

1183
01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:32,240
Speaker 1: They can't look it back and my system good. Yeah,

1184
01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:34,760
Speaker 1: that's all good. That's all good.

1185
01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:38,080
Speaker 3: But me be there. Listen, man, you said you played

1186
01:00:38,120 --> 01:00:41,960
Speaker 3: wide receiver plas the receiver too. That that that's that

1187
01:00:42,080 --> 01:00:45,280
Speaker 3: thing right there. You said it you gotta when you

1188
01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:47,720
Speaker 3: got to catch that ball. And you know them jokers

1189
01:00:47,720 --> 01:00:51,280
Speaker 3: are hollering every third down and three four they said,

1190
01:00:51,320 --> 01:00:53,200
Speaker 3: watch Mike Girvan on the sling. You knew they were

1191
01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:56,200
Speaker 3: gonna hit you. It's just a matter of can you

1192
01:00:56,240 --> 01:00:58,840
Speaker 3: go get that ball? And you know this hitter is coming.

1193
01:00:59,040 --> 01:01:02,800
Speaker 3: That's the different thing in the NFL, like the mother

1194
01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:08,240
Speaker 3: h goddamn lord, they were damn yeah.

1195
01:01:08,480 --> 01:01:10,800
Speaker 1: I don't belave. Then it takes. I swear that you got.

1196
01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:13,640
Speaker 3: Every time they called the slim rider, I was scared,

1197
01:01:14,080 --> 01:01:16,919
Speaker 3: but I would always line up and and the thought

1198
01:01:16,960 --> 01:01:19,240
Speaker 3: that would come to my head was like Nigro, you

1199
01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:22,680
Speaker 3: either run your slint or you run back to the ghetto,

1200
01:01:23,080 --> 01:01:25,520
Speaker 3: and then I was like, run that slint.

1201
01:01:26,200 --> 01:01:26,919
Speaker 1: I bust their.

1202
01:01:26,840 --> 01:01:28,680
Speaker 3: Heads over that slant for shops of that.

1203
01:01:28,680 --> 01:01:30,680
Speaker 1: I ain't going back to that ghetto. I don't blay

1204
01:01:30,720 --> 01:01:31,640
Speaker 1: what you got mom.

1205
01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:32,280
Speaker 3: All right.

1206
01:01:32,520 --> 01:01:33,320
Speaker 1: My name is Crystal.

1207
01:01:33,480 --> 01:01:37,200
Speaker 9: I'm from Grand Prairie, Bubbadub. I'm a huge fan Michael

1208
01:01:37,240 --> 01:01:39,720
Speaker 9: Irby and my husband down there. He's a huge fan

1209
01:01:39,840 --> 01:01:42,360
Speaker 9: of yours and cowboys. My question is to you, b

1210
01:01:42,600 --> 01:01:46,200
Speaker 9: the how are you feeling? I saw a post earlier

1211
01:01:46,200 --> 01:01:49,640
Speaker 9: today by Burger king So I wanted to, like tonight.

1212
01:01:49,360 --> 01:01:51,600
Speaker 2: All your Mike Man, I'm went to Burger king Man.

1213
01:01:51,640 --> 01:01:57,960
Speaker 2: I shipped for twelve dolls. Man, Man, I recommend I'm

1214
01:01:57,960 --> 01:01:59,560
Speaker 2: telling you how people right now, I don't.

1215
01:01:59,320 --> 01:02:02,560
Speaker 1: Go to Burger at After one year my stomach still

1216
01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:03,080
Speaker 1: fucked up.

1217
01:02:03,080 --> 01:02:05,800
Speaker 2: I'm glad I'm here now I can get some good food. Sure,

1218
01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:12,480
Speaker 2: playmaker say, hey, brother, I need a word of the pians.

1219
01:02:13,800 --> 01:02:18,360
Speaker 1: Hey, why boy, that's funny, dog. What you gotta have

1220
01:02:18,480 --> 01:02:19,080
Speaker 1: to talk to us?

1221
01:02:19,120 --> 01:02:19,280
Speaker 3: Man?

1222
01:02:19,280 --> 01:02:20,360
Speaker 1: We got Kevin Satdays.

1223
01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:24,320
Speaker 3: I'm not you dead man, because mother fuck you clean

1224
01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:27,600
Speaker 3: dog any clean like that?

1225
01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:31,520
Speaker 1: First shout out to you, brother good Man. How you

1226
01:02:31,560 --> 01:02:36,800
Speaker 1: doing my brother? So? Uh my man's jews Lee. I'm

1227
01:02:36,800 --> 01:02:40,880
Speaker 1: from Lafayel, Louisiana. I drove far than and a half hours

1228
01:02:40,920 --> 01:02:43,280
Speaker 1: to be here today. I appreciate.

1229
01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:50,000
Speaker 4: I'm a United States veteran. There's a storm, and earlier

1230
01:02:50,760 --> 01:02:55,360
Speaker 4: you touched on something that touched my heart. Michael and you,

1231
01:02:55,920 --> 01:03:00,960
Speaker 4: I just want to ask we your platform or do

1232
01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:08,360
Speaker 4: you plan on addressing the issues for US veterans. We

1233
01:03:08,400 --> 01:03:12,040
Speaker 4: get health care, but we don't get dental care, right,

1234
01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:12,760
Speaker 4: you know.

1235
01:03:12,840 --> 01:03:17,000
Speaker 10: There's in the system is so slow.

1236
01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:21,760
Speaker 4: We do not have any solibrities like you and Brother God.

1237
01:03:22,240 --> 01:03:27,440
Speaker 1: Are anyone really advocating for us? So my question to

1238
01:03:27,520 --> 01:03:31,400
Speaker 1: you is, can you please maybe reach.

1239
01:03:31,160 --> 01:03:35,000
Speaker 10: Out to some people that you were connected with to

1240
01:03:35,040 --> 01:03:39,840
Speaker 10: get them involved, to get this ball rolled, because not

1241
01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:45,080
Speaker 10: only the mental aspect of it, but it's also the

1242
01:03:45,080 --> 01:03:46,600
Speaker 10: physical aspect of it.

1243
01:03:46,800 --> 01:03:51,760
Speaker 2: We're losing veterans on our high average more than we

1244
01:03:51,880 --> 01:03:52,439
Speaker 2: ever did.

1245
01:03:54,440 --> 01:03:55,760
Speaker 1: Can you speak to that.

1246
01:03:55,840 --> 01:03:58,160
Speaker 3: A little bit? My man, my man, First of all,

1247
01:03:58,880 --> 01:04:03,720
Speaker 3: we all we all old everyone that has served a great,

1248
01:04:05,160 --> 01:04:07,720
Speaker 3: great debt of gratitude.

1249
01:04:08,320 --> 01:04:12,360
Speaker 1: We can't repay it. It's impossible to repay.

1250
01:04:13,920 --> 01:04:16,560
Speaker 3: I have never had I had no intention of getting

1251
01:04:16,600 --> 01:04:22,840
Speaker 3: into this business, but The reality is when someone jumps

1252
01:04:22,920 --> 01:04:25,880
Speaker 3: in your battle, you have to jump in there about it.

1253
01:04:26,600 --> 01:04:29,640
Speaker 1: You guys jump in the battle and fought for us.

1254
01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:35,160
Speaker 3: The life that we live is this obsession that we

1255
01:04:35,400 --> 01:04:39,200
Speaker 3: have with sports and then being able to enjoy it

1256
01:04:39,240 --> 01:04:42,720
Speaker 3: is all under the comfort of your covering.

1257
01:04:43,720 --> 01:04:44,560
Speaker 1: And then when you.

1258
01:04:44,640 --> 01:04:49,960
Speaker 3: Come back from serving and protecting us and giving us

1259
01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:56,040
Speaker 3: that covering, the treatment we give is just absolutely unacceptable.

1260
01:04:56,640 --> 01:04:59,080
Speaker 3: Or we talk a good game with our mouth gain

1261
01:04:59,360 --> 01:05:02,880
Speaker 3: but we di whatever they're not with our reality. And

1262
01:05:02,960 --> 01:05:06,280
Speaker 3: that is so sad man, and we all, we all

1263
01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:08,960
Speaker 3: here in Americas to be ashamed of it. Should that's

1264
01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:11,040
Speaker 3: the one thing. I don't care a lot of things.

1265
01:05:11,360 --> 01:05:13,640
Speaker 3: And we just talk about how great this country is.

1266
01:05:14,280 --> 01:05:18,600
Speaker 3: That we have failed then for sure, in servicing our servicemen.

1267
01:05:19,200 --> 01:05:21,520
Speaker 3: The Bible says those that serve us all are the

1268
01:05:21,560 --> 01:05:26,040
Speaker 3: greatest of us. All you put down yourself for everybody else. Man.

1269
01:05:26,400 --> 01:05:32,600
Speaker 3: That is biblical and in spiritual. I apologize for what

1270
01:05:32,640 --> 01:05:36,760
Speaker 3: we have done. I apologize for what we have done.

1271
01:05:36,640 --> 01:05:39,959
Speaker 2: Me personally as as being a man here in America. Man,

1272
01:05:40,760 --> 01:05:43,120
Speaker 2: you know a lot of our women we go out.

1273
01:05:43,000 --> 01:05:46,600
Speaker 1: Here and they try to choose the men with celebrities

1274
01:05:46,800 --> 01:05:51,920
Speaker 1: or men with money, adupe baldness and when and when knowledge? Truly,

1275
01:05:52,360 --> 01:05:54,440
Speaker 1: I feel like you hole should be choosing.

1276
01:05:54,160 --> 01:05:57,320
Speaker 2: These veterans, the vegans that to be taken care of

1277
01:05:57,400 --> 01:06:00,760
Speaker 2: in a very special way. This is true more than

1278
01:06:02,160 --> 01:06:06,000
Speaker 2: and you're saying you know the hole, I'm saying the

1279
01:06:06,040 --> 01:06:09,560
Speaker 2: hose if any holes, and they're looking for someone that

1280
01:06:09,720 --> 01:06:12,960
Speaker 2: can be solid night, you're the only one that was

1281
01:06:13,160 --> 01:06:18,480
Speaker 2: standing for anybody because.

1282
01:06:18,160 --> 01:06:19,240
Speaker 3: You don't know how to fight.

1283
01:06:19,320 --> 01:06:23,000
Speaker 1: I had to know the d v A meet and

1284
01:06:23,040 --> 01:06:25,560
Speaker 1: they gonna get to see the doctor. They can see

1285
01:06:25,560 --> 01:06:31,080
Speaker 1: a real head doctor. You just hate that. I can

1286
01:06:31,160 --> 01:06:33,439
Speaker 1: tell you he gonna take you the whole nother place.

1287
01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:36,080
Speaker 1: But I can take what you got, brother, what you

1288
01:06:36,160 --> 01:06:39,720
Speaker 1: got for close? When is Michael? I had a question

1289
01:06:39,760 --> 01:06:41,840
Speaker 1: about you playing against DB's.

1290
01:06:42,080 --> 01:06:45,160
Speaker 6: Did you like any schemes or to avoid schemes or

1291
01:06:45,280 --> 01:06:47,600
Speaker 6: any dbates dbs you wanted.

1292
01:06:47,360 --> 01:06:48,960
Speaker 1: To play against or not play against?

1293
01:06:50,320 --> 01:06:54,200
Speaker 3: But man, I was, I was, I was, I said

1294
01:06:54,280 --> 01:06:56,880
Speaker 3: I was different in my attack of players.

1295
01:06:57,920 --> 01:06:59,920
Speaker 1: I my mindset was.

1296
01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:03,480
Speaker 3: Always if I want to be the player, I'll attack

1297
01:07:03,560 --> 01:07:06,520
Speaker 3: his weakness. If I want to break a player, I'm

1298
01:07:06,680 --> 01:07:10,160
Speaker 3: attack his strength. So any player that I played on

1299
01:07:10,640 --> 01:07:13,160
Speaker 3: or that I had to play twice. I'm going to

1300
01:07:13,240 --> 01:07:15,480
Speaker 3: go ahead and to attack your strength. So if you're

1301
01:07:15,480 --> 01:07:18,440
Speaker 3: a physical player, I maybe I'll be able to out

1302
01:07:18,520 --> 01:07:18,920
Speaker 3: quick you.

1303
01:07:19,000 --> 01:07:20,400
Speaker 1: If I'm going to play you once a year.

1304
01:07:20,400 --> 01:07:22,600
Speaker 3: But I'm gonna play you twice a year and you

1305
01:07:22,680 --> 01:07:26,040
Speaker 3: think you physical, I'm going to be out physical, so

1306
01:07:26,160 --> 01:07:30,520
Speaker 3: you have nowhere to run. I had a methodology about

1307
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Speaker 3: how I attacked everybody I played against to asshare my

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Speaker 3: victory not just today but tomorrow in forever.

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Speaker 1: More. What you got?

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Speaker 3: Brother?

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Speaker 6: All right, Mike, we talked a little earlier. You're my favorite.

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Speaker 6: Dad is my second, and see here's my third. Now

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Speaker 6: all eighty eight See the first eighty eight I went around,

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Speaker 6: So I can't really speak on him, right.

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Speaker 1: But my question is not for you. It's for you, Baba.

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Speaker 6: When did you become a Dallas Cowboy fan? And what

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Speaker 6: made you become a Dallas capboy?

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Speaker 2: Always been a Dallas Cowboy fan, my whole family being

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Speaker 2: in Dallas Cowboy fans. I remember having posters on my

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Speaker 2: wall of Michael urb and Troy Aiden, Emmitt Smith.

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Speaker 1: Always beenham Dallas Cowboy fan. Like I say, I would.

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Speaker 2: Say nineteen ninety two or what made you?

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Speaker 1: What made you winging?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 2: Everybody wanted to be associated with winging. The cowboys was winging.

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Speaker 2: I'm from Texas, and you know everybody.

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Speaker 1: Who's going from the cowboy man? Who gonna want to

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Speaker 1: be a cowboy fan? Period?

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Speaker 3: You know who gonna want.

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Speaker 1: To fucking be a cowboy fan? What part of Texas

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Speaker 1: you from?

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Speaker 2: I'm from Malato, Texas. I'm from East Texas. I'm I'm

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Speaker 2: I'm an East Texas baby.

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Speaker 1: Ain't shipped up a red dirt. I'm a fair I

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Speaker 1: got dirt appreciation.

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Speaker 11: In regards to how society is today with social media,

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Speaker 11: what advice do you have to give growing influencers and

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Speaker 11: entrepreneurs using social media? Because I know mental health has

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01:09:17,960 --> 01:09:22,000
Speaker 11: been a major issue. So what advice with you coming

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01:09:22,080 --> 01:09:24,759
Speaker 11: up through you know your social media platform and everything

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Speaker 11: you have done. What advice do you give people out

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Speaker 11: there that may want to follow your steps in this?

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Speaker 11: And then also in regards to mental health, how do

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Speaker 11: you to stay your mental health through having you know

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Speaker 11: your platform and being an influencer.

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Speaker 2: I would say the number one thing is being consistent.

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01:09:46,400 --> 01:09:49,920
Speaker 2: You have to be consistent in the social media game.

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01:09:50,720 --> 01:09:56,439
Speaker 2: You have to constantly be in people face. So if

1349
01:09:56,439 --> 01:10:01,679
Speaker 2: you putting out a skit or video, if you're putting

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01:10:01,680 --> 01:10:05,080
Speaker 2: out videos starting out, you have to put out at

1351
01:10:05,160 --> 01:10:09,920
Speaker 2: least fifteen videos a week. You have to constantly be

1352
01:10:10,000 --> 01:10:13,960
Speaker 2: in people's face. You have to have a foundation started

1353
01:10:14,120 --> 01:10:18,640
Speaker 2: of what you're doing. When I started out in twenty seventeen,

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Speaker 2: I was doing.

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Speaker 1: Snitching skits.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And when I was doing the stitching skits back then,

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01:10:27,680 --> 01:10:31,400
Speaker 2: it's never been seen nobody. It was an unknown theme

1359
01:10:31,479 --> 01:10:33,600
Speaker 2: to stitch on people where I'm from. You like, you

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01:10:33,640 --> 01:10:36,640
Speaker 2: can't do a snitch, But I played a snitch and

1361
01:10:36,800 --> 01:10:40,160
Speaker 2: at that time I was playing that. Everybody know it

1362
01:10:40,200 --> 01:10:45,719
Speaker 2: was to Costly sixty nine. He started snitching or whatnot

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Speaker 2: and it kind of hit. But I would say the

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Speaker 2: number one thing and that and anything you're doing on

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Speaker 2: social media, it's just being consistent. And anybody dealing with

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01:10:56,360 --> 01:11:03,760
Speaker 2: mental health issues, you you have to have a strong on.

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Speaker 2: You have to have strong on our strong foundation. The

1368
01:11:08,320 --> 01:11:11,439
Speaker 2: internet will eat you alive. You know what I mean

1369
01:11:11,479 --> 01:11:13,519
Speaker 2: by eat you alive. They can love you one day

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Speaker 2: and hate you the next minute. Right, we live in

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Speaker 2: Anna counsel culture.

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Speaker 1: You take a wrong thing pants people.

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Speaker 2: Don't like you a war and not following you in

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Speaker 2: the ward, but beat true to you or came.

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Speaker 1: To your auguence no matter what nobody saying came to

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01:11:29,040 --> 01:11:32,840
Speaker 1: your audience. You have nothing to worry about and put

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Speaker 1: the work in.

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Speaker 2: Don't take anything from bring it. Like I said, I

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01:11:35,760 --> 01:11:38,840
Speaker 2: started in two thousand seventeen. I ain't really get on

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Speaker 2: the Instagram to really two thousand and twenty.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Uh, taking the series and believe in yourself, cause you

1383
01:11:51,560 --> 01:11:52,880
Speaker 2: gonna have a lot of people come.

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Speaker 1: To you and tell you you.

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01:11:54,200 --> 01:11:56,160
Speaker 2: Ain't gonna do your bed or to do issue. You're

1386
01:11:56,200 --> 01:11:58,519
Speaker 2: not gonna better to make it. But the number one

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01:11:58,560 --> 01:12:01,720
Speaker 2: thing is believe it in yourself. Once you believe in yourself,

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Speaker 2: everything gives a punch in.

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Speaker 11: Okay, mister Irvin, I did say this question for him

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Speaker 11: and you, So the initial question, well, for you, the

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01:12:12,520 --> 01:12:16,160
Speaker 11: question I would like to ask you is, and let

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Speaker 11: me just give homies thank you.

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01:12:17,560 --> 01:12:18,639
Speaker 1: For being a ghost.

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Speaker 3: Literally.

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Speaker 11: So what advice would you give the upcoming NFL players

1396
01:12:27,680 --> 01:12:31,280
Speaker 11: that are being drafted in the NFL and the NF

1397
01:12:31,320 --> 01:12:35,040
Speaker 11: players that may have five years longevity as of right now,

1398
01:12:35,439 --> 01:12:39,400
Speaker 11: what advice would you give them in regards to being

1399
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Speaker 11: in the NFL and just being a player of the game.

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Speaker 3: Got all the life is about sustainability.

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01:12:48,760 --> 01:12:49,720
Speaker 1: You know we.

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01:12:52,360 --> 01:12:55,879
Speaker 3: If I surmise it and give it to you quickly

1403
01:12:56,640 --> 01:13:03,280
Speaker 3: and quo quote, I would say your living, your living,

1404
01:13:03,360 --> 01:13:08,080
Speaker 3: your destiny, and not your history. What I mean by

1405
01:13:08,120 --> 01:13:11,960
Speaker 3: that is, don't make decisions from your pain. Make all

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01:13:12,000 --> 01:13:16,280
Speaker 3: your decisions on your promise. Most guys get in the

1407
01:13:16,400 --> 01:13:20,679
Speaker 3: NFL comes from someplace that maybe they didn't have anything

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01:13:20,760 --> 01:13:23,719
Speaker 3: like me. We come from a hard place, may single

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01:13:24,040 --> 01:13:27,920
Speaker 3: or whatever. And you get there and you get a

1410
01:13:28,000 --> 01:13:31,040
Speaker 3: big signing bonus and you say, oh, I'm gonna buy.

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Speaker 7: Me a house.

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01:13:31,280 --> 01:13:32,439
Speaker 1: I'm buy my mom a house.

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01:13:32,680 --> 01:13:35,400
Speaker 3: I'm going to pay cash for it all because they gave.

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Speaker 1: Me all this cash.

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Speaker 3: And you're only doing it because you watched your mom,

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01:13:41,080 --> 01:13:43,559
Speaker 3: or you watch your cousin or or somebody get their

1417
01:13:43,560 --> 01:13:44,240
Speaker 3: house taken.

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01:13:44,479 --> 01:13:46,519
Speaker 1: So you say, ain't nobody will ever take my house.

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01:13:47,840 --> 01:13:52,040
Speaker 3: So you're spending from your past. I'm gonna pay five

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Speaker 3: million dollars for this home, and I'm gonna spend two

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Speaker 3: million dollars on this home. When the reality is your

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01:13:58,960 --> 01:14:02,599
Speaker 3: promise say is go borrow that money. You go borrow

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01:14:02,680 --> 01:14:05,680
Speaker 3: that money, and you don't touch your principle, and you

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01:14:05,800 --> 01:14:09,000
Speaker 3: collect interest on that principle, and you'll collect enough interest

1425
01:14:09,080 --> 01:14:11,879
Speaker 3: on that principle to pay off that loan that you borrowed.

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01:14:11,960 --> 01:14:15,519
Speaker 3: We're never touching that principle. If you're spending on your

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01:14:15,640 --> 01:14:19,200
Speaker 3: promise and not spending on the pain of your past.

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Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying, be willing to get it.

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01:14:24,280 --> 01:14:27,040
Speaker 3: When nobody says that your gift has put you in

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01:14:27,080 --> 01:14:29,800
Speaker 3: a place that your person is not prepared for, that's

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01:14:29,840 --> 01:14:33,920
Speaker 3: what it means. That's exactly what it means. So now

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01:14:33,960 --> 01:14:36,840
Speaker 3: that your gift have you here, don't let your person

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01:14:36,960 --> 01:14:39,960
Speaker 3: mess it up. Absolutely.

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Speaker 2: Hey, everybody, thank your opportunity into the Bubbletory show man.

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Speaker 2: We have a legend hall of Fame. It's a pleasure

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01:14:51,200 --> 01:14:55,320
Speaker 2: to sit down what you might and learn about. You

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01:14:55,400 --> 01:14:58,439
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, the transition you made from your

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01:14:58,720 --> 01:15:02,800
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame careers a broadcast, So letting the people

1439
01:15:02,880 --> 01:15:06,559
Speaker 2: know about the new and ship that you do. Being

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01:15:06,640 --> 01:15:09,400
Speaker 2: the owner here of the Playmakers Restaurant in eighty eight.

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01:15:09,520 --> 01:15:13,320
Speaker 2: If you come to Dallas, Texas, h you got to

1442
01:15:13,400 --> 01:15:15,960
Speaker 2: come to this spot here and Playmakers being great food,

1443
01:15:16,000 --> 01:15:16,920
Speaker 2: great atmosphere.

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01:15:17,479 --> 01:15:18,479
Speaker 1: You in the presence of.

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01:15:18,560 --> 01:15:21,880
Speaker 2: A of a champion. You know, everybody can't say there

1446
01:15:21,960 --> 01:15:23,960
Speaker 2: was a champion. A lot of people they played the game.

1447
01:15:24,040 --> 01:15:27,280
Speaker 2: Nigga say they played the game. But everybody was fortunate

1448
01:15:27,520 --> 01:15:30,519
Speaker 2: or blessed to be a champion. You ain't just a champion,

1449
01:15:30,560 --> 01:15:33,960
Speaker 2: and you a three time champion. You're a college champion.

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01:15:34,080 --> 01:15:38,120
Speaker 2: Appreciate every level of Mike. I just wanna say thank you.

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01:15:38,400 --> 01:15:40,479
Speaker 1: I appreciate from a from a man like me.

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01:15:40,680 --> 01:15:44,400
Speaker 2: You never played in the NFL, never played no professional

1453
01:15:44,560 --> 01:15:47,679
Speaker 2: storts ever in my life, but the great the stage

1454
01:15:47,720 --> 01:15:51,240
Speaker 2: with you, it's an armory, it's a blessing. I want

1455
01:15:51,280 --> 01:15:54,320
Speaker 2: to say personally for me, thank you for sitting down

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01:15:54,360 --> 01:15:57,480
Speaker 2: with me and my fans and getting us the opportunity

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01:15:57,960 --> 01:16:00,200
Speaker 2: to learn more about you than we are of the

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01:16:00,320 --> 01:16:02,679
Speaker 2: new I want to say thank you as a man,

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01:16:02,760 --> 01:16:03,599
Speaker 2: thank you as a brother.

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Speaker 1: On the show and this pinon Boar.

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01:16:06,400 --> 01:16:09,040
Speaker 2: To come and I want y'all anything you want to say,

1462
01:16:09,040 --> 01:16:10,880
Speaker 2: anything you want to walk to the people right right.

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01:16:10,920 --> 01:16:13,559
Speaker 3: And first of all, as I said to you, I'll

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01:16:13,600 --> 01:16:15,639
Speaker 3: see you next week in Sreeport. I'm gonna come out

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01:16:15,640 --> 01:16:18,040
Speaker 3: there to see the show because you're my dog, and

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01:16:18,120 --> 01:16:20,640
Speaker 3: we're gonna we're gonna we gonna hit that little what

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01:16:20,800 --> 01:16:23,799
Speaker 3: I call shit kicking town. We gonna hit it together

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01:16:24,120 --> 01:16:28,360
Speaker 3: in sreemport. But but but on the reel, on the

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01:16:28,439 --> 01:16:34,080
Speaker 3: real of all of it, Man, I appreciate the genre

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01:16:34,160 --> 01:16:37,439
Speaker 3: and which you have chosen all of it. We can

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01:16:37,520 --> 01:16:42,080
Speaker 3: have a football crowd, basketball crowd, baseball crowd. There are

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Speaker 3: a lot of crowds that you can categorize people in.

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01:16:46,439 --> 01:16:50,479
Speaker 3: But no matter what crowd you go to the world

1474
01:16:50,600 --> 01:16:54,599
Speaker 3: you are in we all yearn for and that's laughter, man,

1475
01:16:55,160 --> 01:17:00,000
Speaker 3: So you get to touch everybody because laughter crosses everything.

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01:17:00,600 --> 01:17:03,880
Speaker 3: So it's a joy for me to be here with you, man,

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01:17:04,320 --> 01:17:08,439
Speaker 3: and I appreciate it. I can appreciate your transition. Keep

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01:17:08,479 --> 01:17:11,040
Speaker 3: doing what you're doing, and you know I'm here for

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01:17:11,160 --> 01:17:13,880
Speaker 3: anything you need, my brother, you know.

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01:17:13,840 --> 01:17:17,439
Speaker 1: That for me. Thank y'all for tuning into the bubble.

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01:17:17,520 --> 01:17:20,639
Speaker 1: Dove Sellman. We'll see y'all, women, see y'all. Thank y'all.

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Speaker 1: God blame

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Speaker 3: Live Onlume