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Speaker 1: Hey Everybody, Scott Patterson, I am all In podcast, iHeartRadio,
Speaker 1: iHeart Media, iHeart Podcasts. One on one interview with the
Speaker 1: one and only Greg Henry, who portrays the lovable Mitchem Huntsberger.
Speaker 1: He is the father of Logan. We all know who
Speaker 1: he is. Let's get to know Greg a little bit
Speaker 1: better before we bring him on. He's best known for
Speaker 1: his performance as serial killer Dennis Raider in the television
Speaker 1: film The Hunt for the BTK Killer, and for playing
Speaker 1: various heavies in various films such as Payback nineteen ninety nine,
Speaker 1: Marvel Studios, Guardians of the Galaxy films, Brian de Palmer's
Speaker 1: Body Double nineteen eighty four, The Ladder, of whom Henry
Speaker 1: has collaborated with frequently over the years, acting in six
Speaker 1: DiPalma films. He has been featured in over seventy five
Speaker 1: television programs, including The Richies, Firefly, Chicago, Mad twenty four, Airwolf, CSI,
Speaker 1: Crime Scene Investigation, Murder, Schroke, Gilmore Girls, matt Lock, In
Speaker 1: the Heat of the Night, and so on and so on,
Speaker 1: and so on. He played the roles of Dobbs in
Speaker 1: the USA Network series White Collar and Hollis Doyle in
Speaker 1: the ABC's series Scandal. In twenty thirteen, he played Detective
Speaker 1: Carl Redick in The Killing. In twenty fourteen, he had
Speaker 1: a small role in the Marvel film Guardians and the
Speaker 1: Galaxy as well as its sequels, is Peter Quill's grandfather.
Speaker 1: He appeared in recurring roles in Hell on Wheels and
Speaker 1: the following He also portrayed the title role in Shakespeare's
Speaker 1: Julius Caesar in twenty and seventeens Shakespeare in the Park
Speaker 1: in New York City. I give you, ladies and gentlemen,
Speaker 1: the one, the only Greg henry Man. I've been reading
Speaker 1: articles about you. I've been trying to catch up all
Speaker 1: your all your stuff. I get.
Speaker 3: I get to wear my hat backwards on this, you know,
Speaker 3: because let's face it.
Speaker 2: When.
Speaker 1: That is correct. So look, thanks for joining us. Uh
Speaker 1: so we'll just get started here.
Speaker 2: You are.
Speaker 1: You know, we're getting some real opinions about your character
Speaker 1: on this show. So I'm glad you're here so we
Speaker 1: could dive in and hear what your your thoughts are
Speaker 1: an opinion, So let's take it from the beginning. How
Speaker 1: did you get the role?
Speaker 2: I got offered the role.
Speaker 1: Nice.
Speaker 3: It's one of those you know, when those things work out,
Speaker 3: it's always so nice.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: There's like rumors going around and like, oh, actors would
Speaker 3: much rather read for the part.
Speaker 1: And no, no way.
Speaker 3: It's much nicer for them to call up and you say, yeah, yes,
Speaker 3: I'd love to yes.
Speaker 1: So yeah, so you so they just ordered to tell
Speaker 1: us about how you saw mitcham how you interpreted the role,
Speaker 1: because it's in the writing, right And I always found
Speaker 1: that Amy and Dan's writing was so ultra specific that
Speaker 1: you didn't really need to do much with it. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's just there on the page. So how did you
Speaker 1: approach this role?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, first of all, I totally agree about their writing.
Speaker 3: It's so clear and specific and uh and uh and
Speaker 3: musical and unique and and uh and that's you know,
Speaker 3: what was exciting about the part is the language, first
Speaker 3: of all. But then they then it was in terms
Speaker 3: of Mitch and I.
Speaker 2: You know, I I looked at him and his uh a.
Speaker 3: Guy who's doing his job and is trying to in
Speaker 3: trying to do his best to help uh young Rory
Speaker 3: in the in the situation that he's put in, and
Speaker 3: uh and and believes believes all of his advice to her,
Speaker 3: and uh and I think it's some good advice to
Speaker 3: her times of course, where the opinion's part is where
Speaker 3: it's where I say, I don't I don't think you
Speaker 3: got it. I don't think you can cut it. And that,
Speaker 3: of course is a great great smack to all the
Speaker 3: fans and to Rory herself.
Speaker 2: But then then it sort of escalates, as as.
Speaker 3: I guess, uh, the relationship of Logan and Rory escalated,
Speaker 3: and so I it was then other things kind of
Speaker 3: became clear about him, you know, that we're that he
Speaker 3: that was kind of revealed actually that he had a
Speaker 3: harder line about sort of family and class and that
Speaker 3: sort of thing than then I originally thought when I
Speaker 3: originally started working on it, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Hm, Right, things came out in scripts that you hadn't
Speaker 1: seen yet, Yeah, right, you're right. Yeah, that was a
Speaker 1: big scene. I think one of the most satisfying scenes
Speaker 1: that I have witnessed so far. And because I'm only
Speaker 1: up to season six, episode nine at this point, because
Speaker 1: I never saw the show, I never watched the show.
Speaker 1: I mean I saw the pilot obviously, but I and
Speaker 1: I was forced to see one of the Netflix iterations
Speaker 1: because I had to go to the premiere and I
Speaker 1: was forced to sit in the theater and watch it.
Speaker 1: I usually excuse myself and go to the bar next
Speaker 1: door or something, because I want to avoid it, all
Speaker 1: the pain.
Speaker 2: They're taking a great weight off of my shoulders.
Speaker 3: Because I was going to say, my knowledge is not
Speaker 3: encyclopedic of the whole show.
Speaker 1: Nora is mine.
Speaker 2: I know the fans are so wonderfully dedicated and their
Speaker 2: knowledge is encyclopedic.
Speaker 1: So right it is. But one of the more satisfying
Speaker 1: and bizarre and funny scenes I ever have ever seen
Speaker 1: on that show or any show, was when Logan brings
Speaker 1: Rory to the Huntsburger home for dinner. It was divine,
Speaker 1: It was existential, surreal, anything you want to throw at it,
Speaker 1: it was. It was just beautiful filmmaking. It was unbelievably funny,
Speaker 1: and the woman who plays your wife was hysterical. It
Speaker 1: was hysterical. I haven't laughed that hard at that show.
Speaker 1: With all the stick and all the jokes, all the joking,
Speaker 1: just that scene provided more comedy for me than anything
Speaker 1: I've seen on that show. And I mean, she got
Speaker 1: eaten alive in that scene. And I guess Mitcham is
Speaker 1: basing her inability to defend herself at that dinner and
Speaker 1: her inability to speak up in a meeting with you,
Speaker 1: in attendance with other newspaper employees about ideas and stories
Speaker 1: and this kind of thing. So you determined that she
Speaker 1: just wasn't cut out for this business because she's not assertive,
Speaker 1: you know, she's not a go getter.
Speaker 3: She's not you know, I you know, I think that
Speaker 3: that's very much part of the assessment, you know, not
Speaker 3: just her writing skills, but the whole package.
Speaker 1: Right, And now we're gonna let's talk about Matt Zukri,
Speaker 1: who I find to be Mattie Alphabet, Matt terrific guy,
Speaker 1: h terrific actor. And just I think that's the thing
Speaker 1: that people don't realize how good he is, because if
Speaker 1: he can stand with you. And the one thing I
Speaker 1: do remember that I haven't seen that I haven't seen
Speaker 1: the episode, but the Malibu fallout in the Malibu, Yeah,
Speaker 1: the Malibu. That scene to me was, I mean, if
Speaker 1: if Maddie can stand up to you and go back
Speaker 1: and forth like that, with that level of ferocity. I thought, Wow,
Speaker 1: there's there's more than meets the eye here. This kid
Speaker 1: really has some skills if he can do that, because
Speaker 1: that's hard to do.
Speaker 3: Oh, he has big skills. And he's a you know,
Speaker 3: just real talent. But he's a real hard worker too
Speaker 3: at what he does. You know, he's like he's very very.
Speaker 2: Intent on that.
Speaker 3: It was still while maintaining you know, very you know,
Speaker 3: sort of cool equili delibrium you know, on.
Speaker 2: Set and everything.
Speaker 3: You know, he's great to talk with and everything, and
Speaker 3: and it's funny.
Speaker 2: I I have.
Speaker 3: A good buddy that's works with him on The Resident
Speaker 3: for all those years and talks about how he's just
Speaker 3: his work thick, you know, just amazing, and in that's
Speaker 3: in that scene I recall just just you know, having
Speaker 3: fun is just like the gates.
Speaker 2: The gates went up and off we went.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: The thing, the thing I appreciate about his work so
Speaker 1: much is how like all of that hard work pays
Speaker 1: off and how smooth his delivery is and how effortless
Speaker 1: and how easy it is. And it's just I love
Speaker 1: watching that kid. I really do that scene between you
Speaker 1: two guys, is just the class. It's you're involved in
Speaker 1: classic Gilmore scenes in my estimation, love love, love the work.
Speaker 1: All right, So you're you're, you're, you're in a one
Speaker 1: minute conversation with Orys where you tell her she doesn't
Speaker 1: have what it takes to be a writer. Uh, and
Speaker 1: it changed the direct trajectory of her life. Do you
Speaker 1: think Mitcham was too hard Do you think Mitchen does
Speaker 1: Greg think Mitchen was too hard on Rory? You the actor,
Speaker 1: you you're the.
Speaker 2: Guy given all the fan reaction.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, But if I think on if I think on it,
Speaker 4: I I think it was without a second chance, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean?
Speaker 3: It was. It was it was a pretty harsh you know,
Speaker 3: he didn't he didn't, you know, send it to the
Speaker 3: minor leagues for a little while or anything. He really
Speaker 3: just said, you're out of here. You know, it's not
Speaker 3: going to work for you. And and that sort of
Speaker 3: thing is you know, it's said to people in all
Speaker 3: kinds of fields of endeavor, but but but certainly in
Speaker 3: show business that's said a lot, right, and uh, and
Speaker 3: and that you don't have it and you're not going
Speaker 3: to cut it and now and and those things uh
Speaker 3: uh cut deep to use a phrase, so it's like
Speaker 3: it's they are life changing. I've known him to be
Speaker 3: life changing for a lot of people, and uh and
Speaker 3: and life changing for periods of my life and you
Speaker 3: know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So mm hmm. There's another scene you do with ed
Speaker 1: Herman in the bathroom. Richard confronts you and you come
Speaker 1: clean about offering her an internship and how your family
Speaker 1: treated Rory to dinner. How do you remember what do
Speaker 1: you remember most about working with that and that scene?
Speaker 3: If you remember, He's just a wonderful guy and I
Speaker 3: was a fan of his work, you know, and so
Speaker 3: it was it was just a great thrill, and he
Speaker 3: was he was quite funny on the set and very
Speaker 3: sort of you know, he's he plays all these kind
Speaker 3: of very close to the best tight guys, you know,
Speaker 3: and I didn't find him to be that way, and
Speaker 3: I found him to be, you know, very very fun
Speaker 3: and and.
Speaker 2: And again not a lot of you know, there there
Speaker 2: wasn't a lot.
Speaker 3: Of razzle dazzle or discussion or anything. It was it
Speaker 3: was just kind of let's play and we did.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you think you were pushing you think Mitcham was
Speaker 1: pushing logan too hard to get into the business.
Speaker 3: I mean, I think he's I think he was a
Speaker 3: harsh critic of his son, and I think he's a tough,
Speaker 3: a tough father to have.
Speaker 2: I think that that's certainly true.
Speaker 1: How many newspapers did mitcham control? How powerful? How wealthy
Speaker 1: was he?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 1: Was he a billionaire? Was he what level was he
Speaker 1: Rupert Murdoch level? I don't think he was.
Speaker 2: I don't know, But that's what's just kind of my understanding.
Speaker 3: My understanding was kind of because he was so personally involved,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, because he.
Speaker 1: Was so.
Speaker 3: Tight on with you know, who is writing, who's the assistant,
Speaker 3: who is and how they're sort of like restructuring this
Speaker 3: business and everything. To me, it seemed like it was
Speaker 3: a lesser empire, an empire, but a lesser.
Speaker 1: Okay, but certainly significantly greater than the Gilmore Empire, I
Speaker 1: think so, right right, Yeah, so you you actually got
Speaker 1: to work getting back to Matt's Matty Matty alphabet. You
Speaker 1: got to do an episode with him in the Resident.
Speaker 1: What was that reunion?
Speaker 2: Like, Well, that was reunion was just us saying hello,
Speaker 2: we didn't act together in that thing.
Speaker 1: Oh you didn't you didn't do an episode.
Speaker 3: Somebody else, So that all this that stuff was with
Speaker 3: my good buddy Bruce Greenwood. But but Maddie and I,
Speaker 3: you know, we we got to spend a little little
Speaker 3: bit of time together saying hey and catching up.
Speaker 1: And I ran into Bruce green where we did a
Speaker 1: Batman film together, animated film together. He voiced Batman and
Speaker 1: I voiced a couple other characters, and there was this
Speaker 1: big premiere. He told me about you guys have a band,
Speaker 1: and that you you play, you play out and you
Speaker 1: you have you have some kind of very special band.
Speaker 1: Tell us a little bit about that.
Speaker 3: But we do a lot of music, you know, the
Speaker 3: definition of a not a band. I'm I'm a I'm
Speaker 3: a songwriter. I'm a singer songwriter and and Bruce is
Speaker 3: also a great singer songwriter. And we sort of shared
Speaker 3: that sort of passion of music and uh and uh
Speaker 3: and through a lot of jam sessions in that and
Speaker 3: uh and Bruce was very good at.
Speaker 2: Well, very good at a lot of things. He's kind
Speaker 2: of a renaissance man.
Speaker 3: But but he's good at these sort of engineering and
Speaker 3: recording and you know, which I don't particularly excel at
Speaker 3: but so he Uh. So, we worked on a couple
Speaker 3: of CDs that I had of my songs, and uh and.
Speaker 1: I was, yeah, I was.
Speaker 3: I was gigging out, you know, about once every two
Speaker 3: months or something like that that at that point in
Speaker 3: time at Genghis Cohen and uh and and Bar five
Speaker 3: and some other places and uh uh and and he'd come,
Speaker 3: you know, and and sing with me. But it was
Speaker 3: all my songs, right and then uh and I'm a
Speaker 3: piano player, he's a guitar player, and you know there's
Speaker 3: the they feud for life.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: So uh but any rate, uh So, on the second
Speaker 3: sort of CD that we worked on together, he he
Speaker 3: was shooting, uh, oh god, what was it?
Speaker 2: Hollywood Homicide.
Speaker 3: I can't remember the title exactly, but it was a
Speaker 3: movie with Dwight Yoakam and we were doing the master
Speaker 3: mix on it, and he uh he asked why if
Speaker 3: he would listen to something, and Dwight said okay, So
Speaker 3: he listened and uh and then like two days later
Speaker 3: he called up and he listened to one song. And
Speaker 3: two days later he called up and said, you mind,
Speaker 3: I think Greg in mind if I recorded that song?
Speaker 1: Oh nice?
Speaker 2: And uh uh yeah, I would mind.
Speaker 1: No, no way, not you.
Speaker 3: So so Greenwood has always been my sort of my
Speaker 3: my promoter, my producer, my uh my partner.
Speaker 2: In all of that.
Speaker 3: But but we don't have a band like to my
Speaker 3: left on bass and to my right.
Speaker 1: Wait, what happened with the Dwight Yoga song? Did he
Speaker 1: record it? Oh?
Speaker 2: Yeah he did. I mean, you know, for a long time.
Speaker 3: On an album, whether he recorded it for like seven months,
Speaker 3: six months something like that, we didn't know whether he
Speaker 3: recorded it. And then and then he called us up
Speaker 3: and said, you know, you guys could come out to
Speaker 3: the studio and listen to what we've done with it.
Speaker 2: And we went out to the studio and.
Speaker 3: Listened and uh and it was, you know, it was
Speaker 3: like one of those things where, uh, I I didn't
Speaker 3: know quite what I imagined, but it was it was so much.
Speaker 2: More than I imagine.
Speaker 3: It was just you know, this just the waterworks are
Speaker 3: coming down and uh so, you know, it was like
Speaker 3: so fulfilling and uh uh and we walked away, you know,
Speaker 3: clicking our heels and shouting woohoo and like it's.
Speaker 2: Definitely made the album. They right, And so then we
Speaker 2: go to see him.
Speaker 3: He's playing at the at the Henry Fonda and uh
Speaker 3: in a in a small tour it's called Dwight Alone.
Speaker 3: It was just him and one other guy, an acoustics
Speaker 3: sort of tour, and uh we said, well, maybe he's going.
Speaker 2: To play this all, you know, And we get there
Speaker 2: and no, he doesn't play it.
Speaker 3: So we go out to the bus afterwards and uh,
Speaker 3: you know, say, you know, we're here to see what
Speaker 3: And then.
Speaker 2: You know, after they make room, they lead us up
Speaker 2: in and he comes out and he goes, oh, I
Speaker 2: got something I want to show you.
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, okay.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well we're sitting there in the in.
Speaker 3: The win a Bago in the bus and he comes
Speaker 3: out and he pops in a DVD and he plays
Speaker 3: video of the song and he said, we're making it
Speaker 3: the single.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, he made it.
Speaker 2: He made it the first single from the album. The
Speaker 2: population me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what's the name of the song?
Speaker 2: The back of your hand?
Speaker 1: The back of your hand. Oh that's so exciting.
Speaker 2: Oh god, it was.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was goodnight for for for both of us,
Speaker 3: for all of us, and so uh yeah, and it
Speaker 3: went well.
Speaker 2: The video did very well.
Speaker 3: The video was like number one on country music television.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, so you must have been. Did you
Speaker 1: get flooded with offers and no, go down to Nashville work?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 2: You know, I went down to Nashville. I ended up
Speaker 2: signing with a you know, a.
Speaker 3: Publisher there to uh, to manage my catalog and stuff
Speaker 3: like that.
Speaker 2: I have the publishing on my stuff.
Speaker 1: Is it Warner Chapel?
Speaker 3: It wasn't Warner Chapel. Had a very nice meeting with
Speaker 3: Warner Chapel, but I went with Music. It was a
Speaker 3: smaller company which has since been bought up by the.
Speaker 2: Big behemoth BMG. But yeah, but it was, it was
Speaker 2: very it was a very exciting time.
Speaker 1: And so yeah, that's very exciting.
Speaker 2: That song got a lot of play and then got on.
Speaker 3: Country Music, Television's Greatest Hits, got on Dwight's Greatest Hits
Speaker 3: of the twenty first century.
Speaker 1: So it's good for you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fun.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So, so how's it been going with the song?
Speaker 2: In my music?
Speaker 3: You got to go to Greg Lee, Henry, you can
Speaker 3: go anywhere like Spotify, Apple, but my middle name.
Speaker 1: So has that continued? Have other artists recorded your stuff?
Speaker 3: No, I've spent No. No, other artists have recorded. I
Speaker 3: did you know it was played in concert the back
Speaker 3: of marine by none other than Taylor Swift.
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, you can barely.
Speaker 2: Hear it for the screaming fans. But that was kind
Speaker 2: of a thrill, you know.
Speaker 3: So if Taylor Taylor's ever looking again, I immediately wrote
Speaker 3: like four for her.
Speaker 2: But you know she's does a pretty good job on
Speaker 2: her own, right.
Speaker 1: That's very very exciting. So you played Grandpa Quill in
Speaker 1: all three Guardians of the Galaxy movies. How fun is
Speaker 1: it to be a part of that cast?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: We know that James gun created all that stuff. That's right.
Speaker 1: He wrote, he writes and directs all that stuff. That's that.
Speaker 1: Sean Gunn's brother, Sean is involved with all those things.
Speaker 1: He just had a big role in the latest movie,
Speaker 1: in the latest iteration. You're in these films. Tell us
Speaker 1: about this experience being a part of such a brilliant
Speaker 1: and fun film franchise.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's crazy, it's crazy fun. And I know James
Speaker 3: Gun from Slither, which was his first directorial event. And
Speaker 3: and and also in that cast was Nathan Fillion and
Speaker 3: Michael Rooker.
Speaker 2: And Rooker and Elizabeth Banks.
Speaker 1: And I've spent a few evenings with Rooker. Yeah, I've
Speaker 1: been ROOKERD. As I said, of nature, he is a
Speaker 1: force of nature for sure.
Speaker 2: Absolutely.
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. If you haven't been Rookard, then you have.
Speaker 1: Then you're a different kind of person. Once you've been ROOKERD.
Speaker 1: Once you've been ROOKERD, you've been rokered man.
Speaker 2: You for life.
Speaker 3: But uh, so I knew, you know, And I did
Speaker 3: another movie with him, super and I did another couple
Speaker 3: of things with James, and so James is the guy
Speaker 3: that took me, you know, and uh, you know, cast
Speaker 3: me in Slither first of all.
Speaker 2: And and that's how that all sort of began. And
Speaker 2: then he called me up. He was in London already
Speaker 2: sort of shooting, already shooting.
Speaker 3: And and called up and asked me if I wanted
Speaker 3: to play a part and I said yeah.
Speaker 2: I said what's part? And he said Grandpa And I
Speaker 2: said grandpa. He's a young grandpa.
Speaker 3: Okay, fine, So so so that's that's how that began.
Speaker 3: And then uh it went to London and shot that
Speaker 3: and uh and there were always uh you know, we
Speaker 3: did a little bit of stuff for the end of
Speaker 3: the first episode if you will, Volume one.
Speaker 2: M and uh uh.
Speaker 3: That was a sort of a collection of all the characters,
Speaker 3: kind of a doing a while the credits run sort
Speaker 3: of thing, you know, which was.
Speaker 2: Never which was never used.
Speaker 3: But I had no idea that, you know, I was
Speaker 3: pretty sure James was going to hit it out of
Speaker 3: the park with that one, but just how deep, I mean,
Speaker 3: I didn't.
Speaker 1: Quite get that, you know.
Speaker 3: And then you know, James is just uh, not only
Speaker 3: a brilliant guy, but he's a lovely guy, a warm guy.
Speaker 2: And and uh when.
Speaker 3: He did too, he called up and said, I got something,
Speaker 3: but I don't know, it's not much, but come and
Speaker 3: and I went. And it was sort of a time
Speaker 3: when all the family was there, Jamie Shawn's family was
Speaker 3: their brother's father, mother, everybody.
Speaker 2: So that was kind of fun.
Speaker 3: And then the big sort of like idle wave that's
Speaker 3: taking over the town.
Speaker 2: Everybody got to play sort of parts.
Speaker 3: And Grandpa was kind of in that because it's the
Speaker 3: rare eye that can actually find Grandpa in volume two.
Speaker 3: But that's what's called to do to do volume three
Speaker 3: and have that little bit it was, which was a
Speaker 3: lovely sort of like bookend culmination of the character and
Speaker 3: the story. Uh, it was great and being a part
Speaker 3: of you know that gang.
Speaker 2: I mean there's a lot of laughing involved.
Speaker 3: I mean they are all genuinely funny, fun people, good folks.
Speaker 1: All Right, we're going to do something called rapid fire
Speaker 1: a bunch of questions. I'm to fire them at you.
Speaker 1: You do not have to answer them quickly.
Speaker 2: Oh, this is not a required fire slow answer.
Speaker 1: Yeah, correct? How do you like your coffee? Black? Are
Speaker 1: you team Logan? Well, we already know Team Logan, Team
Speaker 1: Jess team.
Speaker 2: You should know that.
Speaker 1: I know that I'm team Logan too. Who's your favorite
Speaker 1: Gilmour Girls couple? Luke, Laurela, Emily or Richard.
Speaker 2: I think I'm gonna go Luke Laurela.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: Would you rather work with Michelle or Kirk Kirk? Why? Oh, well,
Speaker 1: obviously you work with it. Would you rather hang out
Speaker 1: with Paris Geller or Lane Kim, Paris Galer?
Speaker 2: Was that Lizon?
Speaker 1: Yes? Yeah, Hers, Paris Harvard or Yale? Yale? Or drop
Speaker 1: out and live in the poolhouse?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 1: Would you rather attend a DAR event with Emily or
Speaker 1: a town meeting with Taylor?
Speaker 2: A town meeting with Taylor? I think still want to
Speaker 2: go to a DAR.
Speaker 1: Meeting Gilmore girl's character that you would want as a roommate.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I'll take the kid, I take Maddie.
Speaker 1: There you go. Something in your life. You are all
Speaker 1: in on.
Speaker 2: Thing in my life. I'm all in on songwriting, which
Speaker 2: is the name of this acting. Yeah, I mean, you know, yeah,
Speaker 2: writing writing of that, that's what women.
Speaker 1: Who are your influences? Who are your song Who do
Speaker 1: you consider to be your favorite songwriters? Who do you
Speaker 1: find inspirational?
Speaker 3: Well, uh, a bunch of you know, there's there's lots
Speaker 3: of people. But you know, Randy Newman is kind of
Speaker 3: my songwriting god. And I was lucky enough to work
Speaker 3: with him one time, doing a show called The Education
Speaker 3: of Randy Newman down at South Coast Rep, which was
Speaker 3: a bunch of his songs. And he was down there
Speaker 3: with us once a week, regaling us with tales and
Speaker 3: making us laugh and showing us also what phenomenal ear
Speaker 3: and how precise he is. And then we got to
Speaker 3: watch him go and conduct at Fox to conduct the
Speaker 3: full orchestra, and which was great. He's like, you know,
Speaker 3: he reads the score like this, and then he's up
Speaker 3: and conducting and and just you know, a wonderful guy
Speaker 3: and musically and and lyrically and sort of observation of.
Speaker 2: Life wise, I find him great.
Speaker 3: But but my favorite, my favorite right now is Jason Isbel.
Speaker 3: Of course, love Tom Waits, I love Bruce Springsteen, I
Speaker 3: love you know, just Merle Hagger, you know all kinds
Speaker 3: of people.
Speaker 1: Interesting. Well, good luck, thank you for your time. Keep
Speaker 1: writing that sweet music. It is something that I do
Speaker 1: as well, Is that right? Oh sure? Yeah? I mean
Speaker 1: I Warner Chappel invited me down on several occasions now
Speaker 1: to come work with some of their song writers, some
Speaker 1: of their artists, and I've never co written before, and
Speaker 1: I'm eager to do it, but I just have there's
Speaker 1: always been a project that got in the way and
Speaker 1: I had to cancel the trip. So I'm going to
Speaker 1: try to make it down there in twenty four and
Speaker 1: follow through along.
Speaker 3: This is an interesting thing because that was kind of
Speaker 3: the thing too, when you know, Bug was saying, well,
Speaker 3: come down here will set you with writers, and I
Speaker 3: was like, I kind of write them all myself, you know.
Speaker 2: Matter of fact, I remember a Warner.
Speaker 3: Chapel the guy was like, so you wrote these all
Speaker 3: by yourself, and I'm like, yeah, I wrote them all
Speaker 3: by myself, right, And and they have a different philosophy
Speaker 3: down there, right, or an additional philosophy, let's say, of that,
Speaker 3: And I didn't. I didn't partake in that either, and
Speaker 3: I kind of regret that. You know, I'm going to
Speaker 3: the time when the iron was hot, and you know,
Speaker 3: I still like to do.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm eager to have the experience. I'm curious
Speaker 1: to see what comes out of it because I've never
Speaker 1: I've tried to do it a couple of times with friends,
Speaker 1: and it's just like it's like, you know, it's it's
Speaker 1: it's because it's such a different process for me than
Speaker 1: having anybody in the room. It's about you know, I
Speaker 1: don't know how you do it, but I think a
Speaker 1: lot of people do it the same. Right, You get
Speaker 1: a chord progression, and then a feeling comes, and then
Speaker 1: a lyric comes, and then a melody might emerge, and
Speaker 1: you know, what comes first doesn't matter. But for me,
Speaker 1: it's always been the chord progression and then a lyric
Speaker 1: that has to make sense and match to a melody.
Speaker 1: And the melody is the hardest part for me. And
Speaker 1: I know some people are There's very few people that
Speaker 1: are that gifted that they can nail the melody right
Speaker 1: away and it takes a lot of work sometimes, so
Speaker 1: but that's how it works. But I am intrigued in
Speaker 1: seeing how it works with another person. I really am
Speaker 1: intrigued by that. So I'll get down there eventually.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I find it a curious thing as well, because
Speaker 2: it's it's interesting.
Speaker 3: One of the things that Dwight and I talked about
Speaker 3: in terms of it about writing was that very thing,
Speaker 3: the melody thing he says that he says, I always
Speaker 3: have to have something to record something because a melody
Speaker 3: will come in and go out and it will never
Speaker 3: come back right.
Speaker 1: You have to record You always have to have that
Speaker 1: thing exactly right.
Speaker 3: And I can't tell you how many times I've gone,
Speaker 3: god damnit, he told me right, because you.
Speaker 1: Can't get it back. No, and you can almost get
Speaker 1: it back, but you know, it's not that magic, and.
Speaker 2: Most of them just doesn't really count.
Speaker 5: Yeah right right, Yeah, very frustrating. And you know, I've
Speaker 5: written things for the for the theater as well. I've
Speaker 5: written music and lyrics and composed sort of for a
Speaker 5: couple of different musicals and and so there there's a
Speaker 5: little bit of a collaboration with the book writer and
Speaker 5: you know, and and other people sort of like contributing lyrics.
Speaker 5: But when I, you know, other than you know, and
Speaker 5: Greenwood and I have written a couple songs together, but
Speaker 5: even all the music that we do together, that's not.
Speaker 2: What we really do together. We don't really do that.
Speaker 2: We sort of write individually.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Interesting, All right, Well, look, thanks, I don't want to
Speaker 1: take up any more of your time. Thank you. Soul
Speaker 1: pleasure much pleasure.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 1: Fans are gonna love this. They are going to love this.
Speaker 1: They eat this stuff up. They loved all that behind
Speaker 1: the scenes stuff. They love getting to know you, So
Speaker 1: thank you.
Speaker 3: One thing I do know for sure, over the years
Speaker 3: of beating fans, you know, I've played a lot of
Speaker 3: really bad people in show business, you know, doing doing
Speaker 3: dastardly things, as villains are to do. But nothing incurs
Speaker 3: wrath like the wrath of the fans of when I said, I.
Speaker 2: Don't think you cut it.
Speaker 1: That's serious.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I tipped my hat to the whole project. And
Speaker 3: of course Amy, you know, I did the last season
Speaker 3: when she was not there when or was you know,
Speaker 3: and and the scripts were still fine, but it was
Speaker 3: like and it's funny after talking about songwriting and it's
Speaker 3: just talking about melody, talking about the little things that
Speaker 3: are different.
Speaker 2: It's a close, but it's not. It's not the music.
Speaker 2: It wasn't really really the music. I just think she's
Speaker 2: so gifted and she and Dan do such great stuff.
Speaker 1: One thing I did notice about season seven, David Rosenthal
Speaker 1: took over. He was a writer on the staff and
Speaker 1: he wrote some fantastic episodes. Actually, one of my favorite
Speaker 1: episodes or the first six seasons, David Rosenthal wrote. So
Speaker 1: he is a gifted, gifted writer in his own right,
Speaker 1: but to ask somebody to come in and do that
Speaker 1: is an impossible ask. You're not you can get close,
Speaker 1: but it's it's these are voices that Amy and Dan hear.
Speaker 1: These are their voices. This cannot be duplicated. And I
Speaker 1: thought he did a pretty commendable job. Haven't seen season
Speaker 1: seven yet, and I'll opine I guess further. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: very curious. I thought he really took the brunt of
Speaker 1: it unfairly. But yeah, I mean, the fans want what
Speaker 1: they want, they got and I mean who you lay
Speaker 1: who do you lay that at the feet of right?
Speaker 1: Because Amy and Dan left for a very specific reason.
Speaker 1: They didn't get the proper deal and they thought they
Speaker 1: deserved it, and that was sort of tradition to give
Speaker 1: a two year deal instead of a one year deal,
Speaker 1: and they just couldn't stomach it. And more power to them, right,
Speaker 1: I mean, they they made their they made a choice.
Speaker 1: And it's like, hey, you know, business, yes, exactly, the
Speaker 1: business side exactly.
Speaker 3: They make that that that choice, and and and again
Speaker 3: they all all respect it.
Speaker 2: To David Rosenthal, it's just it's different.
Speaker 3: It's just different almost, you know, in a in a
Speaker 3: in that's in that slight way, you.
Speaker 1: Know, mm hmm, yeah, little little differences make a huge
Speaker 1: difference in that in that regard. Anyway, thank you so
Speaker 1: very much. Great welcome to you, great catching up with you,
Speaker 1: good luck with everything.
Speaker 2: Thank you. YouTube.
Speaker 1: Hopefully we can talk to.
Speaker 3: How the how the factory work in Nashville goes, you know,
Speaker 3: the whole bridge. No, no, it's the opening line of
Speaker 3: the bridge.
Speaker 6: All right, allry, buddy, all right, take care, all right,
Speaker 6: take care, bud.
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