1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 1: I am all in. Let's kiss you. 2 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:20,640 Speaker 2: I am all in with Scott Patterson an iHeartRadio podcast. 3 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 1: Hey Everybody, Scott Patterson, I am all In podcast, iHeartRadio, 4 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 1: iHeart Media, iHeart Podcasts. One on one interview with the 5 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 1: one and only Greg Henry, who portrays the lovable Mitchem Huntsberger. 6 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:38,559 Speaker 1: He is the father of Logan. We all know who 7 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 1: he is. Let's get to know Greg a little bit 8 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:43,839 Speaker 1: better before we bring him on. He's best known for 9 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:48,160 Speaker 1: his performance as serial killer Dennis Raider in the television 10 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:51,520 Speaker 1: film The Hunt for the BTK Killer, and for playing 11 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 1: various heavies in various films such as Payback nineteen ninety nine, 12 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 1: Marvel Studios, Guardians of the Galaxy films, Brian de Palmer's 13 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 1: Body Double nineteen eighty four, The Ladder, of whom Henry 14 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 1: has collaborated with frequently over the years, acting in six 15 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 1: DiPalma films. He has been featured in over seventy five 16 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:16,679 Speaker 1: television programs, including The Richies, Firefly, Chicago, Mad twenty four, Airwolf, CSI, 17 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 1: Crime Scene Investigation, Murder, Schroke, Gilmore Girls, matt Lock, In 18 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:21,959 Speaker 1: the Heat of the Night, and so on and so on, 19 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 1: and so on. He played the roles of Dobbs in 20 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 1: the USA Network series White Collar and Hollis Doyle in 21 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 1: the ABC's series Scandal. In twenty thirteen, he played Detective 22 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 1: Carl Redick in The Killing. In twenty fourteen, he had 23 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 1: a small role in the Marvel film Guardians and the 24 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 1: Galaxy as well as its sequels, is Peter Quill's grandfather. 25 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 1: He appeared in recurring roles in Hell on Wheels and 26 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 1: the following He also portrayed the title role in Shakespeare's 27 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 1: Julius Caesar in twenty and seventeens Shakespeare in the Park 28 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 1: in New York City. I give you, ladies and gentlemen, 29 00:01:56,480 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 1: the one, the only Greg henry Man. I've been reading 30 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 1: articles about you. I've been trying to catch up all 31 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 1: your all your stuff. I get. 32 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:09,079 Speaker 3: I get to wear my hat backwards on this, you know, 33 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 3: because let's face it. 34 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:12,800 Speaker 2: When. 35 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 1: That is correct. So look, thanks for joining us. Uh 36 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 1: so we'll just get started here. 37 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 2: You are. 38 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 1: You know, we're getting some real opinions about your character 39 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 1: on this show. So I'm glad you're here so we 40 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 1: could dive in and hear what your your thoughts are 41 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:36,079 Speaker 1: an opinion, So let's take it from the beginning. How 42 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 1: did you get the role? 43 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 2: I got offered the role. 44 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 1: Nice. 45 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:45,639 Speaker 3: It's one of those you know, when those things work out, 46 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 3: it's always so nice. 47 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 4: You know. 48 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:50,239 Speaker 3: There's like rumors going around and like, oh, actors would 49 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:51,639 Speaker 3: much rather read for the part. 50 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 1: And no, no way. 51 00:02:56,320 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 3: It's much nicer for them to call up and you say, yeah, yes, 52 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:02,080 Speaker 3: I'd love to yes. 53 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 1: So yeah, so you so they just ordered to tell 54 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 1: us about how you saw mitcham how you interpreted the role, 55 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 1: because it's in the writing, right And I always found 56 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:17,640 Speaker 1: that Amy and Dan's writing was so ultra specific that 57 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 1: you didn't really need to do much with it. I mean, 58 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 1: it's just there on the page. So how did you 59 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 1: approach this role? 60 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 2: Oh? 61 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, first of all, I totally agree about their writing. 62 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 3: It's so clear and specific and uh and uh and 63 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 3: musical and unique and and uh and that's you know, 64 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 3: what was exciting about the part is the language, first 65 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 3: of all. But then they then it was in terms 66 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 3: of Mitch and I. 67 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 2: You know, I I looked at him and his uh a. 68 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 3: Guy who's doing his job and is trying to in 69 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 3: trying to do his best to help uh young Rory 70 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 3: in the in the situation that he's put in, and 71 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 3: uh and and believes believes all of his advice to her, 72 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:16,280 Speaker 3: and uh and I think it's some good advice to 73 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 3: her times of course, where the opinion's part is where 74 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 3: it's where I say, I don't I don't think you 75 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:27,840 Speaker 3: got it. I don't think you can cut it. And that, 76 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 3: of course is a great great smack to all the 77 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:33,719 Speaker 3: fans and to Rory herself. 78 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:36,839 Speaker 2: But then then it sort of escalates, as as. 79 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 3: I guess, uh, the relationship of Logan and Rory escalated, 80 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:48,160 Speaker 3: and so I it was then other things kind of 81 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:52,159 Speaker 3: became clear about him, you know, that we're that he 82 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 3: that was kind of revealed actually that he had a 83 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 3: harder line about sort of family and class and that 84 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 3: sort of thing than then I originally thought when I 85 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 3: originally started working on it, you know what I mean? 86 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 1: Hm, Right, things came out in scripts that you hadn't 87 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 1: seen yet, Yeah, right, you're right. Yeah, that was a 88 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:18,360 Speaker 1: big scene. I think one of the most satisfying scenes 89 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 1: that I have witnessed so far. And because I'm only 90 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 1: up to season six, episode nine at this point, because 91 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 1: I never saw the show, I never watched the show. 92 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 1: I mean I saw the pilot obviously, but I and 93 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:38,279 Speaker 1: I was forced to see one of the Netflix iterations 94 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 1: because I had to go to the premiere and I 95 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 1: was forced to sit in the theater and watch it. 96 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 1: I usually excuse myself and go to the bar next 97 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 1: door or something, because I want to avoid it, all 98 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 1: the pain. 99 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:52,279 Speaker 2: They're taking a great weight off of my shoulders. 100 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 3: Because I was going to say, my knowledge is not 101 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 3: encyclopedic of the whole show. 102 00:05:58,120 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 1: Nora is mine. 103 00:05:59,880 --> 00:06:04,159 Speaker 2: I know the fans are so wonderfully dedicated and their 104 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:05,480 Speaker 2: knowledge is encyclopedic. 105 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 1: So right it is. But one of the more satisfying 106 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 1: and bizarre and funny scenes I ever have ever seen 107 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 1: on that show or any show, was when Logan brings 108 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 1: Rory to the Huntsburger home for dinner. It was divine, 109 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 1: It was existential, surreal, anything you want to throw at it, 110 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 1: it was. It was just beautiful filmmaking. It was unbelievably funny, 111 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 1: and the woman who plays your wife was hysterical. It 112 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:41,159 Speaker 1: was hysterical. I haven't laughed that hard at that show. 113 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 1: With all the stick and all the jokes, all the joking, 114 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:48,280 Speaker 1: just that scene provided more comedy for me than anything 115 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 1: I've seen on that show. And I mean, she got 116 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:56,359 Speaker 1: eaten alive in that scene. And I guess Mitcham is 117 00:06:56,440 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 1: basing her inability to defend herself at that dinner and 118 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 1: her inability to speak up in a meeting with you, 119 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 1: in attendance with other newspaper employees about ideas and stories 120 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 1: and this kind of thing. So you determined that she 121 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 1: just wasn't cut out for this business because she's not assertive, 122 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 1: you know, she's not a go getter. 123 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 3: She's not you know, I you know, I think that 124 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 3: that's very much part of the assessment, you know, not 125 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 3: just her writing skills, but the whole package. 126 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 1: Right, And now we're gonna let's talk about Matt Zukri, 127 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 1: who I find to be Mattie Alphabet, Matt terrific guy, 128 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 1: h terrific actor. And just I think that's the thing 129 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 1: that people don't realize how good he is, because if 130 00:07:57,320 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 1: he can stand with you. And the one thing I 131 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 1: do remember that I haven't seen that I haven't seen 132 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 1: the episode, but the Malibu fallout in the Malibu, Yeah, 133 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 1: the Malibu. That scene to me was, I mean, if 134 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 1: if Maddie can stand up to you and go back 135 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 1: and forth like that, with that level of ferocity. I thought, Wow, 136 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 1: there's there's more than meets the eye here. This kid 137 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 1: really has some skills if he can do that, because 138 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 1: that's hard to do. 139 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 3: Oh, he has big skills. And he's a you know, 140 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:32,680 Speaker 3: just real talent. But he's a real hard worker too 141 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 3: at what he does. You know, he's like he's very very. 142 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:39,440 Speaker 2: Intent on that. 143 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 3: It was still while maintaining you know, very you know, 144 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 3: sort of cool equili delibrium you know, on. 145 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 2: Set and everything. 146 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 3: You know, he's great to talk with and everything, and 147 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:52,079 Speaker 3: and it's funny. 148 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 2: I I have. 149 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:57,199 Speaker 3: A good buddy that's works with him on The Resident 150 00:08:57,240 --> 00:08:59,320 Speaker 3: for all those years and talks about how he's just 151 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 3: his work thick, you know, just amazing, and in that's 152 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 3: in that scene I recall just just you know, having 153 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 3: fun is just like the gates. 154 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 2: The gates went up and off we went. 155 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 3: You know. 156 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 1: The thing, the thing I appreciate about his work so 157 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 1: much is how like all of that hard work pays 158 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:21,960 Speaker 1: off and how smooth his delivery is and how effortless 159 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 1: and how easy it is. And it's just I love 160 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 1: watching that kid. I really do that scene between you 161 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 1: two guys, is just the class. It's you're involved in 162 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 1: classic Gilmore scenes in my estimation, love love, love the work. 163 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:39,840 Speaker 1: All right, So you're you're, you're, you're in a one 164 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 1: minute conversation with Orys where you tell her she doesn't 165 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 1: have what it takes to be a writer. Uh, and 166 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 1: it changed the direct trajectory of her life. Do you 167 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 1: think Mitcham was too hard Do you think Mitchen does 168 00:09:56,280 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 1: Greg think Mitchen was too hard on Rory? You the actor, 169 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 1: you you're the. 170 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 2: Guy given all the fan reaction. 171 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 4: Absolutely, But if I think on if I think on it, 172 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 4: I I think it was without a second chance, you 173 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 4: know what I mean? 174 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:20,840 Speaker 3: It was. It was it was a pretty harsh you know, 175 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 3: he didn't he didn't, you know, send it to the 176 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 3: minor leagues for a little while or anything. He really 177 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:31,959 Speaker 3: just said, you're out of here. You know, it's not 178 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 3: going to work for you. And and that sort of 179 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:39,719 Speaker 3: thing is you know, it's said to people in all 180 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:43,200 Speaker 3: kinds of fields of endeavor, but but but certainly in 181 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 3: show business that's said a lot, right, and uh, and 182 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:47,960 Speaker 3: and that you don't have it and you're not going 183 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:51,840 Speaker 3: to cut it and now and and those things uh 184 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 3: uh cut deep to use a phrase, so it's like 185 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 3: it's they are life changing. I've known him to be 186 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 3: life changing for a lot of people, and uh and 187 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 3: and life changing for periods of my life and you 188 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:06,440 Speaker 3: know what I mean. 189 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:10,839 Speaker 1: So mm hmm. There's another scene you do with ed 190 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 1: Herman in the bathroom. Richard confronts you and you come 191 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 1: clean about offering her an internship and how your family 192 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 1: treated Rory to dinner. How do you remember what do 193 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 1: you remember most about working with that and that scene? 194 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 3: If you remember, He's just a wonderful guy and I 195 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 3: was a fan of his work, you know, and so 196 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:35,320 Speaker 3: it was it was just a great thrill, and he 197 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 3: was he was quite funny on the set and very 198 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 3: sort of you know, he's he plays all these kind 199 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 3: of very close to the best tight guys, you know, 200 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 3: and I didn't find him to be that way, and 201 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 3: I found him to be, you know, very very fun 202 00:11:55,720 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 3: and and. 203 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 2: And again not a lot of you know, there there 204 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:01,560 Speaker 2: wasn't a lot. 205 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:05,560 Speaker 3: Of razzle dazzle or discussion or anything. It was it 206 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 3: was just kind of let's play and we did. 207 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, you think you were pushing you think Mitcham was 208 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 1: pushing logan too hard to get into the business. 209 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 3: I mean, I think he's I think he was a 210 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 3: harsh critic of his son, and I think he's a tough, 211 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:26,440 Speaker 3: a tough father to have. 212 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 2: I think that that's certainly true. 213 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:36,320 Speaker 1: How many newspapers did mitcham control? How powerful? How wealthy 214 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 1: was he? 215 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 2: Well? 216 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 1: Was he a billionaire? Was he what level was he 217 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 1: Rupert Murdoch level? I don't think he was. 218 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 2: I don't know, But that's what's just kind of my understanding. 219 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:54,440 Speaker 3: My understanding was kind of because he was so personally involved, 220 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:55,959 Speaker 3: you know what I mean, because he. 221 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:56,200 Speaker 1: Was so. 222 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:01,200 Speaker 3: Tight on with you know, who is writing, who's the assistant, 223 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 3: who is and how they're sort of like restructuring this 224 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:09,200 Speaker 3: business and everything. To me, it seemed like it was 225 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 3: a lesser empire, an empire, but a lesser. 226 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:19,679 Speaker 1: Okay, but certainly significantly greater than the Gilmore Empire, I 227 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:32,080 Speaker 1: think so, right right, Yeah, so you you actually got 228 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 1: to work getting back to Matt's Matty Matty alphabet. You 229 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 1: got to do an episode with him in the Resident. 230 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 1: What was that reunion? 231 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 2: Like, Well, that was reunion was just us saying hello, 232 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 2: we didn't act together in that thing. 233 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 1: Oh you didn't you didn't do an episode. 234 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 3: Somebody else, So that all this that stuff was with 235 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 3: my good buddy Bruce Greenwood. But but Maddie and I, 236 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 3: you know, we we got to spend a little little 237 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 3: bit of time together saying hey and catching up. 238 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:04,439 Speaker 1: And I ran into Bruce green where we did a 239 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 1: Batman film together, animated film together. He voiced Batman and 240 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 1: I voiced a couple other characters, and there was this 241 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 1: big premiere. He told me about you guys have a band, 242 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 1: and that you you play, you play out and you 243 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 1: you have you have some kind of very special band. 244 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 1: Tell us a little bit about that. 245 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 3: But we do a lot of music, you know, the 246 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 3: definition of a not a band. I'm I'm a I'm 247 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 3: a songwriter. I'm a singer songwriter and and Bruce is 248 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 3: also a great singer songwriter. And we sort of shared 249 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 3: that sort of passion of music and uh and uh 250 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 3: and through a lot of jam sessions in that and 251 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 3: uh and Bruce was very good at. 252 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 2: Well, very good at a lot of things. He's kind 253 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 2: of a renaissance man. 254 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 3: But but he's good at these sort of engineering and 255 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 3: recording and you know, which I don't particularly excel at 256 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 3: but so he Uh. So, we worked on a couple 257 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 3: of CDs that I had of my songs, and uh and. 258 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 1: I was, yeah, I was. 259 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 3: I was gigging out, you know, about once every two 260 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 3: months or something like that that at that point in 261 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 3: time at Genghis Cohen and uh and and Bar five 262 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 3: and some other places and uh uh and and he'd come, 263 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 3: you know, and and sing with me. But it was 264 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 3: all my songs, right and then uh and I'm a 265 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 3: piano player, he's a guitar player, and you know there's 266 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 3: the they feud for life. 267 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 2: You know. 268 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 3: So uh but any rate, uh So, on the second 269 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 3: sort of CD that we worked on together, he he 270 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 3: was shooting, uh, oh god, what was it? 271 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 2: Hollywood Homicide. 272 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 3: I can't remember the title exactly, but it was a 273 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 3: movie with Dwight Yoakam and we were doing the master 274 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 3: mix on it, and he uh he asked why if 275 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 3: he would listen to something, and Dwight said okay, So 276 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 3: he listened and uh and then like two days later 277 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 3: he called up and he listened to one song. And 278 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 3: two days later he called up and said, you mind, 279 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 3: I think Greg in mind if I recorded that song? 280 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 1: Oh nice? 281 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 2: And uh uh yeah, I would mind. 282 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 1: No, no way, not you. 283 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 3: So so Greenwood has always been my sort of my 284 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 3: my promoter, my producer, my uh my partner. 285 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 2: In all of that. 286 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 3: But but we don't have a band like to my 287 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 3: left on bass and to my right. 288 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 1: Wait, what happened with the Dwight Yoga song? Did he 289 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 1: record it? Oh? 290 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 2: Yeah he did. I mean, you know, for a long time. 291 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 3: On an album, whether he recorded it for like seven months, 292 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 3: six months something like that, we didn't know whether he 293 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 3: recorded it. And then and then he called us up 294 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 3: and said, you know, you guys could come out to 295 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:04,360 Speaker 3: the studio and listen to what we've done with it. 296 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 2: And we went out to the studio and. 297 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 3: Listened and uh and it was, you know, it was 298 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 3: like one of those things where, uh, I I didn't 299 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:20,400 Speaker 3: know quite what I imagined, but it was it was so much. 300 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:21,160 Speaker 2: More than I imagine. 301 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 3: It was just you know, this just the waterworks are 302 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 3: coming down and uh so, you know, it was like 303 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 3: so fulfilling and uh uh and we walked away, you know, 304 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 3: clicking our heels and shouting woohoo and like it's. 305 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 2: Definitely made the album. They right, And so then we 306 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 2: go to see him. 307 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 3: He's playing at the at the Henry Fonda and uh 308 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:46,440 Speaker 3: in a in a small tour it's called Dwight Alone. 309 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:48,359 Speaker 3: It was just him and one other guy, an acoustics 310 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:51,200 Speaker 3: sort of tour, and uh we said, well, maybe he's going. 311 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:54,440 Speaker 2: To play this all, you know, And we get there 312 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 2: and no, he doesn't play it. 313 00:17:57,400 --> 00:18:00,359 Speaker 3: So we go out to the bus afterwards and uh, 314 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:02,679 Speaker 3: you know, say, you know, we're here to see what 315 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 3: And then. 316 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 2: You know, after they make room, they lead us up 317 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 2: in and he comes out and he goes, oh, I 318 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 2: got something I want to show you. 319 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:15,399 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, okay. 320 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:15,920 Speaker 3: Yeah. 321 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:17,880 Speaker 2: Well we're sitting there in the in. 322 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:20,879 Speaker 3: The win a Bago in the bus and he comes 323 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:25,640 Speaker 3: out and he pops in a DVD and he plays 324 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:30,359 Speaker 3: video of the song and he said, we're making it 325 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:30,879 Speaker 3: the single. 326 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:34,200 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, he made it. 327 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:36,359 Speaker 2: He made it the first single from the album. The 328 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 2: population me. 329 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, what's the name of the song? 330 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 2: The back of your hand? 331 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 1: The back of your hand. Oh that's so exciting. 332 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:46,639 Speaker 2: Oh god, it was. 333 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:50,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was goodnight for for for both of us, 334 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:53,359 Speaker 3: for all of us, and so uh yeah, and it 335 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 3: went well. 336 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 2: The video did very well. 337 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 3: The video was like number one on country music television. 338 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:01,439 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, so you must have been. Did you 339 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 1: get flooded with offers and no, go down to Nashville work? 340 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 3: You know? 341 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 2: You know, I went down to Nashville. I ended up 342 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:11,119 Speaker 2: signing with a you know, a. 343 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:15,639 Speaker 3: Publisher there to uh, to manage my catalog and stuff 344 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:15,879 Speaker 3: like that. 345 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:17,679 Speaker 2: I have the publishing on my stuff. 346 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:18,639 Speaker 1: Is it Warner Chapel? 347 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 3: It wasn't Warner Chapel. Had a very nice meeting with 348 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:26,159 Speaker 3: Warner Chapel, but I went with Music. It was a 349 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 3: smaller company which has since been bought up by the. 350 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 2: Big behemoth BMG. But yeah, but it was, it was 351 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 2: very it was a very exciting time. 352 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 1: And so yeah, that's very exciting. 353 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 2: That song got a lot of play and then got on. 354 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:50,440 Speaker 3: Country Music, Television's Greatest Hits, got on Dwight's Greatest Hits 355 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:51,640 Speaker 3: of the twenty first century. 356 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 1: So it's good for you. 357 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:55,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fun. 358 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. So, so how's it been going with the song? 359 00:19:58,560 --> 00:19:59,359 Speaker 2: In my music? 360 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 3: You got to go to Greg Lee, Henry, you can 361 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 3: go anywhere like Spotify, Apple, but my middle name. 362 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:09,159 Speaker 1: So has that continued? Have other artists recorded your stuff? 363 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:14,399 Speaker 3: No, I've spent No. No, other artists have recorded. I 364 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 3: did you know it was played in concert the back 365 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 3: of marine by none other than Taylor Swift. 366 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:26,360 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, you can barely. 367 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 2: Hear it for the screaming fans. But that was kind 368 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 2: of a thrill, you know. 369 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:37,439 Speaker 3: So if Taylor Taylor's ever looking again, I immediately wrote 370 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:38,200 Speaker 3: like four for her. 371 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:40,879 Speaker 2: But you know she's does a pretty good job on 372 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 2: her own, right. 373 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 1: That's very very exciting. So you played Grandpa Quill in 374 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 1: all three Guardians of the Galaxy movies. How fun is 375 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:57,159 Speaker 1: it to be a part of that cast? 376 00:20:57,920 --> 00:20:58,440 Speaker 2: Oh? 377 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 1: We know that James gun created all that stuff. That's right. 378 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 1: He wrote, he writes and directs all that stuff. That's that. 379 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:08,200 Speaker 1: Sean Gunn's brother, Sean is involved with all those things. 380 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:11,679 Speaker 1: He just had a big role in the latest movie, 381 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:14,239 Speaker 1: in the latest iteration. You're in these films. Tell us 382 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:19,200 Speaker 1: about this experience being a part of such a brilliant 383 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 1: and fun film franchise. 384 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:28,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's crazy, it's crazy fun. And I know James 385 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 3: Gun from Slither, which was his first directorial event. And 386 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 3: and and also in that cast was Nathan Fillion and 387 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:43,720 Speaker 3: Michael Rooker. 388 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:47,119 Speaker 2: And Rooker and Elizabeth Banks. 389 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 1: And I've spent a few evenings with Rooker. Yeah, I've 390 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:55,399 Speaker 1: been ROOKERD. As I said, of nature, he is a 391 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 1: force of nature for sure. 392 00:21:57,640 --> 00:21:58,400 Speaker 2: Absolutely. 393 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:01,720 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. If you haven't been Rookard, then you have. 394 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:05,120 Speaker 1: Then you're a different kind of person. Once you've been ROOKERD. 395 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 1: Once you've been ROOKERD, you've been rokered man. 396 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 2: You for life. 397 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:20,160 Speaker 3: But uh, so I knew, you know, And I did 398 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 3: another movie with him, super and I did another couple 399 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:25,800 Speaker 3: of things with James, and so James is the guy 400 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:28,960 Speaker 3: that took me, you know, and uh, you know, cast 401 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 3: me in Slither first of all. 402 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 2: And and that's how that all sort of began. And 403 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 2: then he called me up. He was in London already 404 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:43,200 Speaker 2: sort of shooting, already shooting. 405 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:47,120 Speaker 3: And and called up and asked me if I wanted 406 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:48,359 Speaker 3: to play a part and I said yeah. 407 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 2: I said what's part? And he said Grandpa And I 408 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 2: said grandpa. He's a young grandpa. 409 00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 3: Okay, fine, So so so that's that's how that began. 410 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 3: And then uh it went to London and shot that 411 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:13,919 Speaker 3: and uh and there were always uh you know, we 412 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,359 Speaker 3: did a little bit of stuff for the end of 413 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 3: the first episode if you will, Volume one. 414 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 2: M and uh uh. 415 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 3: That was a sort of a collection of all the characters, 416 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:31,400 Speaker 3: kind of a doing a while the credits run sort 417 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 3: of thing, you know, which was. 418 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 2: Never which was never used. 419 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:40,480 Speaker 3: But I had no idea that, you know, I was 420 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 3: pretty sure James was going to hit it out of 421 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:45,360 Speaker 3: the park with that one, but just how deep, I mean, 422 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:46,119 Speaker 3: I didn't. 423 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:47,639 Speaker 1: Quite get that, you know. 424 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:53,200 Speaker 3: And then you know, James is just uh, not only 425 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 3: a brilliant guy, but he's a lovely guy, a warm guy. 426 00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 2: And and uh when. 427 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 3: He did too, he called up and said, I got something, 428 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 3: but I don't know, it's not much, but come and 429 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 3: and I went. And it was sort of a time 430 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:11,639 Speaker 3: when all the family was there, Jamie Shawn's family was 431 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 3: their brother's father, mother, everybody. 432 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:16,680 Speaker 2: So that was kind of fun. 433 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:20,120 Speaker 3: And then the big sort of like idle wave that's 434 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:22,359 Speaker 3: taking over the town. 435 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 2: Everybody got to play sort of parts. 436 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:27,960 Speaker 3: And Grandpa was kind of in that because it's the 437 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:32,359 Speaker 3: rare eye that can actually find Grandpa in volume two. 438 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 3: But that's what's called to do to do volume three 439 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 3: and have that little bit it was, which was a 440 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 3: lovely sort of like bookend culmination of the character and 441 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 3: the story. Uh, it was great and being a part 442 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 3: of you know that gang. 443 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:51,640 Speaker 2: I mean there's a lot of laughing involved. 444 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 3: I mean they are all genuinely funny, fun people, good folks. 445 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:07,359 Speaker 1: All Right, we're going to do something called rapid fire 446 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 1: a bunch of questions. I'm to fire them at you. 447 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 1: You do not have to answer them quickly. 448 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 2: Oh, this is not a required fire slow answer. 449 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:23,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, correct? How do you like your coffee? Black? Are 450 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,640 Speaker 1: you team Logan? Well, we already know Team Logan, Team 451 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:26,680 Speaker 1: Jess team. 452 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 2: You should know that. 453 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:31,399 Speaker 1: I know that I'm team Logan too. Who's your favorite 454 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 1: Gilmour Girls couple? Luke, Laurela, Emily or Richard. 455 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:37,680 Speaker 2: I think I'm gonna go Luke Laurela. 456 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:38,359 Speaker 4: You know. 457 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:45,160 Speaker 1: Would you rather work with Michelle or Kirk Kirk? Why? Oh, well, 458 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:50,160 Speaker 1: obviously you work with it. Would you rather hang out 459 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:54,960 Speaker 1: with Paris Geller or Lane Kim, Paris Galer? 460 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 2: Was that Lizon? 461 00:25:56,720 --> 00:26:07,359 Speaker 1: Yes? Yeah, Hers, Paris Harvard or Yale? Yale? Or drop 462 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 1: out and live in the poolhouse? 463 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 2: Well? 464 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:16,359 Speaker 1: Would you rather attend a DAR event with Emily or 465 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 1: a town meeting with Taylor? 466 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 2: A town meeting with Taylor? I think still want to 467 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 2: go to a DAR. 468 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:28,440 Speaker 1: Meeting Gilmore girl's character that you would want as a roommate. 469 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 2: I don't know. I'll take the kid, I take Maddie. 470 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 1: There you go. Something in your life. You are all 471 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:37,640 Speaker 1: in on. 472 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,880 Speaker 2: Thing in my life. I'm all in on songwriting, which 473 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:46,200 Speaker 2: is the name of this acting. Yeah, I mean, you know, yeah, 474 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 2: writing writing of that, that's what women. 475 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 1: Who are your influences? Who are your song Who do 476 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 1: you consider to be your favorite songwriters? Who do you 477 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:57,360 Speaker 1: find inspirational? 478 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:02,399 Speaker 3: Well, uh, a bunch of you know, there's there's lots 479 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 3: of people. But you know, Randy Newman is kind of 480 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 3: my songwriting god. And I was lucky enough to work 481 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:14,400 Speaker 3: with him one time, doing a show called The Education 482 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:17,679 Speaker 3: of Randy Newman down at South Coast Rep, which was 483 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,680 Speaker 3: a bunch of his songs. And he was down there 484 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:25,440 Speaker 3: with us once a week, regaling us with tales and 485 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:30,240 Speaker 3: making us laugh and showing us also what phenomenal ear 486 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 3: and how precise he is. And then we got to 487 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:37,159 Speaker 3: watch him go and conduct at Fox to conduct the 488 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 3: full orchestra, and which was great. He's like, you know, 489 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:45,720 Speaker 3: he reads the score like this, and then he's up 490 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 3: and conducting and and just you know, a wonderful guy 491 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:54,400 Speaker 3: and musically and and lyrically and sort of observation of. 492 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:56,160 Speaker 2: Life wise, I find him great. 493 00:27:56,200 --> 00:28:02,439 Speaker 3: But but my favorite, my favorite right now is Jason Isbel. 494 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 3: Of course, love Tom Waits, I love Bruce Springsteen, I 495 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 3: love you know, just Merle Hagger, you know all kinds 496 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:16,240 Speaker 3: of people. 497 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:20,840 Speaker 1: Interesting. Well, good luck, thank you for your time. Keep 498 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 1: writing that sweet music. It is something that I do 499 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:28,960 Speaker 1: as well, Is that right? Oh sure? Yeah? I mean 500 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:33,920 Speaker 1: I Warner Chappel invited me down on several occasions now 501 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 1: to come work with some of their song writers, some 502 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,920 Speaker 1: of their artists, and I've never co written before, and 503 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 1: I'm eager to do it, but I just have there's 504 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 1: always been a project that got in the way and 505 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:47,320 Speaker 1: I had to cancel the trip. So I'm going to 506 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 1: try to make it down there in twenty four and 507 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:51,240 Speaker 1: follow through along. 508 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 3: This is an interesting thing because that was kind of 509 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 3: the thing too, when you know, Bug was saying, well, 510 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:02,480 Speaker 3: come down here will set you with writers, and I 511 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 3: was like, I kind of write them all myself, you know. 512 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 2: Matter of fact, I remember a Warner. 513 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 3: Chapel the guy was like, so you wrote these all 514 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,479 Speaker 3: by yourself, and I'm like, yeah, I wrote them all 515 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 3: by myself, right, And and they have a different philosophy 516 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:26,240 Speaker 3: down there, right, or an additional philosophy, let's say, of that, 517 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 3: And I didn't. I didn't partake in that either, and 518 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 3: I kind of regret that. You know, I'm going to 519 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:34,960 Speaker 3: the time when the iron was hot, and you know, 520 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:36,640 Speaker 3: I still like to do. 521 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:39,800 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm eager to have the experience. I'm curious 522 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:41,760 Speaker 1: to see what comes out of it because I've never 523 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,240 Speaker 1: I've tried to do it a couple of times with friends, 524 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 1: and it's just like it's like, you know, it's it's 525 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:52,640 Speaker 1: it's because it's such a different process for me than 526 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:55,840 Speaker 1: having anybody in the room. It's about you know, I 527 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,480 Speaker 1: don't know how you do it, but I think a 528 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 1: lot of people do it the same. Right, You get 529 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:03,560 Speaker 1: a chord progression, and then a feeling comes, and then 530 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 1: a lyric comes, and then a melody might emerge, and 531 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 1: you know, what comes first doesn't matter. But for me, 532 00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 1: it's always been the chord progression and then a lyric 533 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 1: that has to make sense and match to a melody. 534 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:21,160 Speaker 1: And the melody is the hardest part for me. And 535 00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 1: I know some people are There's very few people that 536 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:27,080 Speaker 1: are that gifted that they can nail the melody right 537 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:30,760 Speaker 1: away and it takes a lot of work sometimes, so 538 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:33,720 Speaker 1: but that's how it works. But I am intrigued in 539 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:37,600 Speaker 1: seeing how it works with another person. I really am 540 00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:40,480 Speaker 1: intrigued by that. So I'll get down there eventually. 541 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. I find it a curious thing as well, because 542 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 2: it's it's interesting. 543 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:47,720 Speaker 3: One of the things that Dwight and I talked about 544 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:50,960 Speaker 3: in terms of it about writing was that very thing, 545 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 3: the melody thing he says that he says, I always 546 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 3: have to have something to record something because a melody 547 00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 3: will come in and go out and it will never 548 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:00,440 Speaker 3: come back right. 549 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:03,600 Speaker 1: You have to record You always have to have that 550 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 1: thing exactly right. 551 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 3: And I can't tell you how many times I've gone, 552 00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 3: god damnit, he told me right, because you. 553 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:15,880 Speaker 1: Can't get it back. No, and you can almost get 554 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,320 Speaker 1: it back, but you know, it's not that magic, and. 555 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:20,440 Speaker 2: Most of them just doesn't really count. 556 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:26,840 Speaker 5: Yeah right right, Yeah, very frustrating. And you know, I've 557 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 5: written things for the for the theater as well. I've 558 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 5: written music and lyrics and composed sort of for a 559 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 5: couple of different musicals and and so there there's a 560 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:39,520 Speaker 5: little bit of a collaboration with the book writer and 561 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:43,080 Speaker 5: you know, and and other people sort of like contributing lyrics. 562 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:47,240 Speaker 5: But when I, you know, other than you know, and 563 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 5: Greenwood and I have written a couple songs together, but 564 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 5: even all the music that we do together, that's not. 565 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:54,800 Speaker 2: What we really do together. We don't really do that. 566 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 2: We sort of write individually. 567 00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:00,760 Speaker 4: Yeah. 568 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:04,120 Speaker 1: Interesting, All right, Well, look, thanks, I don't want to 569 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,880 Speaker 1: take up any more of your time. Thank you. Soul 570 00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:09,320 Speaker 1: pleasure much pleasure. 571 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 3: Man. 572 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:12,000 Speaker 1: Fans are gonna love this. They are going to love this. 573 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 1: They eat this stuff up. They loved all that behind 574 00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:16,880 Speaker 1: the scenes stuff. They love getting to know you, So 575 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:17,320 Speaker 1: thank you. 576 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:19,960 Speaker 3: One thing I do know for sure, over the years 577 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:24,240 Speaker 3: of beating fans, you know, I've played a lot of 578 00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:30,120 Speaker 3: really bad people in show business, you know, doing doing 579 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:36,520 Speaker 3: dastardly things, as villains are to do. But nothing incurs 580 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 3: wrath like the wrath of the fans of when I said, I. 581 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:43,280 Speaker 2: Don't think you cut it. 582 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:44,440 Speaker 1: That's serious. 583 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:49,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, I tipped my hat to the whole project. And 584 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,560 Speaker 3: of course Amy, you know, I did the last season 585 00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:56,120 Speaker 3: when she was not there when or was you know, 586 00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:59,800 Speaker 3: and and the scripts were still fine, but it was 587 00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:02,400 Speaker 3: like and it's funny after talking about songwriting and it's 588 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 3: just talking about melody, talking about the little things that 589 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:05,360 Speaker 3: are different. 590 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:11,080 Speaker 2: It's a close, but it's not. It's not the music. 591 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:14,520 Speaker 2: It wasn't really really the music. I just think she's 592 00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:17,480 Speaker 2: so gifted and she and Dan do such great stuff. 593 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:22,520 Speaker 1: One thing I did notice about season seven, David Rosenthal 594 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:25,520 Speaker 1: took over. He was a writer on the staff and 595 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:30,400 Speaker 1: he wrote some fantastic episodes. Actually, one of my favorite 596 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:33,960 Speaker 1: episodes or the first six seasons, David Rosenthal wrote. So 597 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:36,520 Speaker 1: he is a gifted, gifted writer in his own right, 598 00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 1: but to ask somebody to come in and do that 599 00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:45,120 Speaker 1: is an impossible ask. You're not you can get close, 600 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:49,120 Speaker 1: but it's it's these are voices that Amy and Dan hear. 601 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:53,120 Speaker 1: These are their voices. This cannot be duplicated. And I 602 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:56,120 Speaker 1: thought he did a pretty commendable job. Haven't seen season 603 00:33:56,160 --> 00:34:00,640 Speaker 1: seven yet, and I'll opine I guess further. Yeah, I'm 604 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 1: very curious. I thought he really took the brunt of 605 00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:08,520 Speaker 1: it unfairly. But yeah, I mean, the fans want what 606 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:11,319 Speaker 1: they want, they got and I mean who you lay 607 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:14,160 Speaker 1: who do you lay that at the feet of right? 608 00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:17,480 Speaker 1: Because Amy and Dan left for a very specific reason. 609 00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:20,239 Speaker 1: They didn't get the proper deal and they thought they 610 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:24,279 Speaker 1: deserved it, and that was sort of tradition to give 611 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:26,600 Speaker 1: a two year deal instead of a one year deal, 612 00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:29,759 Speaker 1: and they just couldn't stomach it. And more power to them, right, 613 00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:32,280 Speaker 1: I mean, they they made their they made a choice. 614 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:35,920 Speaker 1: And it's like, hey, you know, business, yes, exactly, the 615 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:37,080 Speaker 1: business side exactly. 616 00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:40,200 Speaker 3: They make that that that choice, and and and again 617 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:41,560 Speaker 3: they all all respect it. 618 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,440 Speaker 2: To David Rosenthal, it's just it's different. 619 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:48,200 Speaker 3: It's just different almost, you know, in a in a 620 00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:51,279 Speaker 3: in that's in that slight way, you. 621 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:54,759 Speaker 1: Know, mm hmm, yeah, little little differences make a huge 622 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:57,960 Speaker 1: difference in that in that regard. Anyway, thank you so 623 00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:01,719 Speaker 1: very much. Great welcome to you, great catching up with you, 624 00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:03,320 Speaker 1: good luck with everything. 625 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:04,480 Speaker 2: Thank you. YouTube. 626 00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:06,359 Speaker 1: Hopefully we can talk to. 627 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:10,160 Speaker 3: How the how the factory work in Nashville goes, you know, 628 00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:16,040 Speaker 3: the whole bridge. No, no, it's the opening line of 629 00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:16,480 Speaker 3: the bridge. 630 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:22,319 Speaker 6: All right, allry, buddy, all right, take care, all right, 631 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:30,600 Speaker 6: take care, bud. 632 00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:55,399 Speaker 1: Everybody talks again. Follow us on Instagram at I Am 633 00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:59,920 Speaker 1: all In podcast and email us at Gilmore at iHeart 634 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:11,120 Speaker 1: radio dot com.