WEBVTT - Who was Claude Shannon?

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<v Speaker 1>Get in touch with technology with tex Stuff from how

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Jonathan Strickland and I'm Lauren Folk Oban, and today

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<v Speaker 1>we wanted to talk about a an important figure in

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<v Speaker 1>tech who often I think is overlooked. H not on purpose,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just he himself was a very kind of conclusive

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<v Speaker 1>is probably the wrong word. They didn't seek the spotlight.

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<v Speaker 1>He became a very private person. And also the work

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<v Speaker 1>that he was doing was technical enough in nature that

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's a little bit less dynamic as explained

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<v Speaker 1>to the general public. Yeah, it's a little more tricky

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<v Speaker 1>than saying this person built this thing which changed the world.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the person who came up with the idea

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<v Speaker 1>that the things that were built that changed the world

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<v Speaker 1>were built upon Did that make sense, I'd have to

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<v Speaker 1>diagram the sentence. We're talking about Claude Shannon Shannon Folks,

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<v Speaker 1>the father of in anmation theory right, also known as

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<v Speaker 1>the father of the electronic communication age, and his full

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<v Speaker 1>name Claude Ellwood Shannon. Very important person he's been. He's

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<v Speaker 1>been compared to, you know, some some pretty impressive, big,

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<v Speaker 1>basic big people like Einstein, Yeah, Einstein being one of them,

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<v Speaker 1>and you might say, well, whoa you know Einstein, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>Einstein's name has become synonymous with just the concept of genius,

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<v Speaker 1>like to the point where we use it in phrases

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<v Speaker 1>where we're being you know, a little a little condescenating. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>way to go Einstein, that kind of thing. But as

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<v Speaker 1>you'll see when we go through this this episode and

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<v Speaker 1>explain what Claude Shannon did and his his contributions to technology,

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<v Speaker 1>as well as just kind of his wacky personality, you'll

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<v Speaker 1>really kind of see how that that applies. So exactly

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<v Speaker 1>who was he and what did he do? When was

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<v Speaker 1>this guy born? He was born in nineteen sixteen in Potaski. Yeah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>his father was a probate judge and his mother was

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<v Speaker 1>a high school principle. He also did have some mildly

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<v Speaker 1>famous family. A very distant cousin of his kind of

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<v Speaker 1>made a name for himself, Yeah, for killing an elephant

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<v Speaker 1>with electricity, Thomas Edison. He did a few other things too, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the requisite doing from the internet. Thomas Edison obviously

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<v Speaker 1>did many, many important things, some of them not remotely

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<v Speaker 1>involving putting an animal to death with electricity. Yeah, thet

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<v Speaker 1>the large majority of which so kill an elephant once. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I know, you just sticks with you right. Well. As

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<v Speaker 1>a boy, Claude Shannon became interested in electronics and began

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<v Speaker 1>experimenting with different stuff. He was just curious about how

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<v Speaker 1>things work and how to build them himself. He built

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<v Speaker 1>a working model of an airplane. Pretty impressive. Think I

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<v Speaker 1>think he was born in nineteen sixteen. You didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>airplanes for very long. They were pretty new. Yeah, they

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<v Speaker 1>were brand new back in the early twentieth century. And

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<v Speaker 1>he also reportedly made a working telegraph system that they

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<v Speaker 1>set up between his bedroom and a friend's bedroom. His

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<v Speaker 1>friend lived half a mile away, and it was all

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<v Speaker 1>made out of fencing wire. Yeah, so he could all

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<v Speaker 1>but I mean the wire itself. Yeah, he could actually

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<v Speaker 1>end up sending messages to his friend have a mile away.

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<v Speaker 1>He was also really into radio circuits and built a

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<v Speaker 1>radio controlled model boat. Yeah, so very much that. Yeah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this is this is the growing world of radio technology

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<v Speaker 1>and the growing world of communications technology. So he was

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<v Speaker 1>interested in it as a kid. Now a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>later on, when he was a teenager, he got work

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<v Speaker 1>as a basic mechanic in a drug store, running a

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<v Speaker 1>fix it shop in a drug store, because that's that

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<v Speaker 1>was like the center of town. Yeah, where you go

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<v Speaker 1>and you go and get your your chocolate malt and

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<v Speaker 1>your your your fan fixed. You know, it's a one

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<v Speaker 1>stop shop. He attended an Arbor College, where he studied

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<v Speaker 1>mathematics and electrical engineering. He graduated an Arbor College in

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen thirty six and then went on to enroll in

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<v Speaker 1>graduate level study at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. And

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<v Speaker 1>he decided upon m i T because he saw this

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<v Speaker 1>work study ad like pinned onto a physical bulletin board

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<v Speaker 1>on his college campus that was advertising for someone interested

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<v Speaker 1>in working on Vanavar Bush's differential analyzer, which was an

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<v Speaker 1>analog computer that used these physical mechanical connections to make calculations.

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<v Speaker 1>The deal here was that he would spend half his

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<v Speaker 1>time working towards his degree and the other half in

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<v Speaker 1>the lab with bush Um, who was then m i

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<v Speaker 1>t s vice president and also their dean of engineering.

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<v Speaker 1>So this was kind of sort of a big deal Um,

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<v Speaker 1>and this machine was huge. It was the system of

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<v Speaker 1>gears and pulleys and rods that calculated with an entire

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<v Speaker 1>range values that were based on the physical rotation of

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<v Speaker 1>the rods, and you could program it by physically rearranging

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<v Speaker 1>all of these mechanical bits to correspond with different equations

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<v Speaker 1>the control circuit. I mean that this is how early

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<v Speaker 1>this was in computing technology. The control circuit itself was

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<v Speaker 1>a system of some hundred electromagnetic switches. Yeah. This this

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<v Speaker 1>is a kind of the the evolution of what Charles

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<v Speaker 1>Babbage created way back in the day, the difference engine.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh so we've done the text us done episodes about

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<v Speaker 1>and a Lovelace, who was the first computer programmer she built.

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<v Speaker 1>She kind of saw that computers could be things that

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<v Speaker 1>could do more than just crunch numbers. They could analyze

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<v Speaker 1>any kind of data. Yeah, they could represent stuff that

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<v Speaker 1>isn't numbers as numbers, so that you could She had

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<v Speaker 1>this brilliant idea of, oh, a computer might be able

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<v Speaker 1>to represent something like a piece of music and be

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<v Speaker 1>able to create, you know, replicated in some way. Years

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<v Speaker 1>and years ahead of her time. And the computers of

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<v Speaker 1>those days were these giant analog actual machines. Yeah, sometimes manpowered.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes they had this electro mechanical element to it. So

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<v Speaker 1>we're predating the time of the electronic computer at this point,

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<v Speaker 1>so uh As Claude Shannon began to work on this machine,

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<v Speaker 1>you know now that he had had enrolled with M

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<v Speaker 1>I T. He noticed something interesting. He saw that the

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<v Speaker 1>switches corresponded with a concept he had started on studying

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<v Speaker 1>first as an undergraduate, and that was really focusing on,

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<v Speaker 1>which was symbolic logic. Now. I took symbolic logic in college.

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<v Speaker 1>I loved it because the basic idea of symbolic logic

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<v Speaker 1>is you reduce logical statements to mathematical statements. Actually, I

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<v Speaker 1>took a similar class. It was it was basically the

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<v Speaker 1>at least mathematical math class I could get away with

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<v Speaker 1>as an English major. Well, the neat thing about it

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<v Speaker 1>that if you could prove that it mathematically made sense,

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<v Speaker 1>then you could say that the statement is true right,

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<v Speaker 1>and if it does exactly so, you could you could

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<v Speaker 1>start to listen to your friends argue and sketch it out.

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<v Speaker 1>And then he said, look, here's where you went wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>But at any rate, while he was at M I T.

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<v Speaker 1>He started really studying the work of a thinker named

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<v Speaker 1>George Boole, who was from the nineteenth century and back

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<v Speaker 1>in eighteen fifty four, George Bull published an investigation of

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<v Speaker 1>the laws of thought on which are founded the mathematical

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<v Speaker 1>theories of logic and probabilities, sometimes known as the laws

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<v Speaker 1>of the We usually shorten that to just laws of thought.

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<v Speaker 1>So this discussion about the mathematical theories of logic had

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<v Speaker 1>Bull using algebraic equations to represent logical forms and syllogisms,

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<v Speaker 1>which is exactly what you know I experienced when I

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<v Speaker 1>was in college. In this work, he also said that

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<v Speaker 1>the only i'd impotent numbers, which are numbers that can

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<v Speaker 1>be put through a certain operation multiple times without changing

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<v Speaker 1>the result, are zero and one. For example, one times

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<v Speaker 1>one equals one, and no matter how many times you

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<v Speaker 1>will multiply one by one, it will always be one. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>So if you take the product of that of that

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<v Speaker 1>that equation and then multiplied by itself, you still stay

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<v Speaker 1>with one, same thing with zero, although also with zero

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<v Speaker 1>you can add and subtract and still end up with zero.

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<v Speaker 1>So zero zero, zero, zero, so bool use zero and

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<v Speaker 1>one for the values of the symbols. In his algebraic logic,

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<v Speaker 1>he said an argument held in logic if when reduced

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<v Speaker 1>to an algebraic equation, it held in common algebra with

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<v Speaker 1>the zero one restriction of the possible interpretations of the symbols,

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<v Speaker 1>meaning that if you could replace the symbols with a

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<v Speaker 1>zero or a one and it's still made sense, it

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<v Speaker 1>still worked, then it held true. So Claude Shannon looked

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<v Speaker 1>at this and he was thinking, this is a really

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<v Speaker 1>cool idea. I love this, this approach to logic. And hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you know a switch has two positions on and off,

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<v Speaker 1>so sort of like a one in zero. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean what if we were to, you know, kind of

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<v Speaker 1>so play with that, that whole switch process, And that

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<v Speaker 1>became something that would percolated in the back of his

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<v Speaker 1>head for a while. In fact, it percolated so long

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<v Speaker 1>that people suspect that he had fully formed this whole

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<v Speaker 1>idea of applying boolean logic to electronic devices for years

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<v Speaker 1>before writing it down, and once he wrote it out

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<v Speaker 1>and presented it, well, we'll get there. We'll get there.

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<v Speaker 1>I also do want to note that around this time

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<v Speaker 1>Shannon became interested in juggling, I think originally for like

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<v Speaker 1>physical mathematical purposes. He showed up, he started showing up

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<v Speaker 1>at the m I T Juggling Club, Juggling Club I

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<v Speaker 1>see what you did there, and asking some of its

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<v Speaker 1>members if he could like measure their juggling, and and

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<v Speaker 1>thereby sort of got involved with them, and this would

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<v Speaker 1>be a lifelong in trist As we will get into

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit later on a little bit of trivia.

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<v Speaker 1>A certain podcaster by the name of Jonathan Strickland was

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<v Speaker 1>a founding member of the University of Georgia Juggling Club. So, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the only thing I really share in common with

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<v Speaker 1>claud I loved symbolic logic and I enjoyed juggling. They're

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<v Speaker 1>the comparison ends for he was far more intelligent than

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<v Speaker 1>I can ever hope to aspire. But yeah, you have

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<v Speaker 1>to agree with no, It's it's fine. I I have

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<v Speaker 1>come to grips with it. Okay. If you told me, hey, Jonathan,

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<v Speaker 1>you're never going to be as smart as say Claude

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<v Speaker 1>Shannon or Albert Einstein, it's alright. Most people won't be,

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<v Speaker 1>so I guess. Ninety eight, Claude Shannon writes a thesis

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<v Speaker 1>applying Bulls approach to circuitry by equating the zero one

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<v Speaker 1>restriction as the off and on positions of a switch

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<v Speaker 1>within a circuit. He was twenty two years old. This,

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<v Speaker 1>this had never been done. This has never been the

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<v Speaker 1>first time anyone had ever said this, certainly out loud,

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<v Speaker 1>and other thinkers have said that it would have taken

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<v Speaker 1>decades for anyone else to have come to this kind

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<v Speaker 1>of conclusion. Right, we could have been sort of groping

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<v Speaker 1>around with other approaches for years before someone had come

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<v Speaker 1>up with this particular version. And not only did he

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<v Speaker 1>come up with this idea, but the way he he

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<v Speaker 1>presented it in his thesis, it was very elegant, and

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<v Speaker 1>he would he would expand upon it a little bit later,

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<v Speaker 1>to the point where people said, this is this is

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<v Speaker 1>why he gets compared to Einstein. It's like Einstein saying

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<v Speaker 1>not just I figured out this one component to how

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<v Speaker 1>the universe works, but being able to express it elegantly

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<v Speaker 1>and have a whole picture right. Like it's like it's

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<v Speaker 1>not just a fact, it's a hill host of facts

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<v Speaker 1>that are all support one another. And it's like they say,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's like you come up with a fundamental theory

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<v Speaker 1>of science and unfold it all at once. It's just so.

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<v Speaker 1>His thesis also laid out how logical functions such as

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<v Speaker 1>and or and not could be implemented within a physical circuit,

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<v Speaker 1>so building of logic gates. Now keep in mind this

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<v Speaker 1>is all in a hypothetical slash theoretical approach, right, It's

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<v Speaker 1>not like he was. He wasn't building this mechanically or

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<v Speaker 1>or electronically. That's the case. Maybe exactly, yeah, he was.

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<v Speaker 1>He was. He was laying out how this could be possible,

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<v Speaker 1>not actually building them himself. Claude Shannon leaves m I

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<v Speaker 1>T after earning a doctorate in mathematics to teach for

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<v Speaker 1>one year at Princeton Um. And here's the story. Has

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of different who has some alternate endings. We

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<v Speaker 1>will present you with the two that we know of.

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<v Speaker 1>But the story goes that he was teaching at Princeton

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<v Speaker 1>and while he was teaching a class he was holding

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<v Speaker 1>a lecture. Albert Einstein himself opened the door and stepped inside,

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<v Speaker 1>and Claude Shannon kept going on with a lecture, but

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<v Speaker 1>obviously was very much impressed with the fact that this

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<v Speaker 1>genius has walked into his classroom. He sees I'm Stein

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<v Speaker 1>bend over and whisper something to one of the students

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<v Speaker 1>in the back. He sees that the student replies and

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<v Speaker 1>then he sees that Einstein quietly leaves the room. He

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<v Speaker 1>continues on with his lecture. At the end of the lecture,

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<v Speaker 1>he holds the student back and with great anticipation, asks

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<v Speaker 1>the student, what did this brilliant man have to say

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<v Speaker 1>about my lecture? And my version of the story was

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<v Speaker 1>that Einstein had very quietly asked the student where are

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<v Speaker 1>they currently serving tea? I've heard that he asked where

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<v Speaker 1>the men's room was, so it maybe there's where are

0:13:33.480 --> 0:13:38.520
<v Speaker 1>they currently allowing you to peet? Could possibly been at

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<v Speaker 1>any rate. Apparently that became one of Claude Shannon's favorite stories.

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<v Speaker 1>He would love to tell the story about how Albert

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<v Speaker 1>Einstein walked into his classroom and asked something completely not

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<v Speaker 1>connected with what he had to say, and that made

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<v Speaker 1>him like just tickled in it tickled it, And I thought,

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<v Speaker 1>well that that also tells you a lot about his

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<v Speaker 1>his personality that he did not take himself seriously. Yeah. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>In nineteen forty one, he joined a company famous for

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<v Speaker 1>its research and development, Bell Telephone Labs, and his work

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<v Speaker 1>mostly focused on things that had to do with the

0:14:13.840 --> 0:14:16.760
<v Speaker 1>war effort. In this ninety one is World War two,

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<v Speaker 1>and it included anti aircraft devices that could calculate and

0:14:21.040 --> 0:14:25.240
<v Speaker 1>target counter missiles, which came pretty seriously in handy during

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<v Speaker 1>the German blitz on England. Yeah. Yeah, it turns out

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<v Speaker 1>if if your enemy is blasting you with missiles, counter

0:14:31.800 --> 0:14:35.320
<v Speaker 1>missiles are a high priority. He also got to work

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<v Speaker 1>in cryptography, so here's something where he's got a you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a connection with people like Alan Turing who was working

0:14:42.600 --> 0:14:46.320
<v Speaker 1>on cracking the Enigma machine back over in England. He

0:14:46.400 --> 0:14:48.880
<v Speaker 1>was now Claude Shannon was designed devices used by Allied

0:14:48.880 --> 0:14:50.920
<v Speaker 1>powers to send messages back and forth, so he was

0:14:50.960 --> 0:14:55.040
<v Speaker 1>looking at keeping Allied messages safe rather than cracking German

0:14:55.080 --> 0:14:58.920
<v Speaker 1>messages or access power messages. He later wrote a paper

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<v Speaker 1>about communication theory of secrecy systems, which, according to M. I.

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<v Speaker 1>T is generally credited with transforming cryptography from an art

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<v Speaker 1>to a science. UM it was a mathematical proof that

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<v Speaker 1>an encryption scheme called the one time pad or the

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<v Speaker 1>Vernon cipher is is unbreakable. And it's the that cipher

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<v Speaker 1>is the basic idea of encoding a message with a

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<v Speaker 1>random series of digits a key, as we have talked

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<v Speaker 1>about on the show before UM which both parties communicating

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<v Speaker 1>have a copy of But you know, this is a

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<v Speaker 1>very simple concept in cryptography, but having the mathematical proof

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<v Speaker 1>that it is in fact unbreakable if the system is,

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<v Speaker 1>then that's really awesome. And when we talked about the

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<v Speaker 1>Enigma machine, that was one of those systems that could

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<v Speaker 1>have been unbreakable had people actually been able to follow

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<v Speaker 1>the rules properly. But because there were two things that

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<v Speaker 1>really fell apart for the Enigma machine. And I know

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<v Speaker 1>this is a bit of a tangent, but it relates

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<v Speaker 1>to this. Yeah, those two things were. One, the Enigma

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<v Speaker 1>machine was designed so that no matter what the letter

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<v Speaker 1>you pressed would never light up as the same the

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<v Speaker 1>same letter would never light up as the letter that

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<v Speaker 1>you had pressed, So knowing that meant that you could

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<v Speaker 1>remove one variable from all the possible outcomes. Secondly, people

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<v Speaker 1>were not as careful with their log books, with their

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<v Speaker 1>code books as they needed to be um and that

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<v Speaker 1>that led to the code being broken. But everyone seems

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<v Speaker 1>to agree that had every had the Germans, had the

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<v Speaker 1>access powers, been incredibly careful, then that would have been

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<v Speaker 1>an unbreakable code. Of course, times of war, you can't

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<v Speaker 1>really do share in human error being what it is. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it's it's that's the difference between the ideal

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<v Speaker 1>and reality. Meanwhile, uh, Claude Shannon began to develop theories

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<v Speaker 1>on how to apply his ideas about bully and logic

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<v Speaker 1>and circuitry to telephone switching lines. Because of course he's

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<v Speaker 1>working at Bell Labs in something else not involved of

0:17:00.120 --> 0:17:03.360
<v Speaker 1>in Claude Shannon happened that Bell Labs the development of

0:17:03.400 --> 0:17:08.000
<v Speaker 1>the transistor. Now, the transistor was a huge breakthrough. It

0:17:08.080 --> 0:17:11.720
<v Speaker 1>meant that the world of electronics could move away from

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<v Speaker 1>things like vacuum tubes and allow this other device to

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<v Speaker 1>take its place, essentially, which ultimately lead to the manatorization

0:17:20.680 --> 0:17:25.040
<v Speaker 1>of electronics. But it wouldn't be until Claude Shannon um

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<v Speaker 1>published his concepts about information theory that would let that

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<v Speaker 1>be a functional item in the way that it became. Yeah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it was really this idea of digitizing information that Shannon

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<v Speaker 1>had that made this a a practical device beyond just

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<v Speaker 1>especially that early transistor. It's enormous if you ever see

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<v Speaker 1>a picture of it, I think compared to the If

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<v Speaker 1>you think that billions of transistors can now fit on

0:17:52.600 --> 0:17:55.000
<v Speaker 1>a microprocessor chip, and then you look at the first

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<v Speaker 1>one it's it's enormous difference. Obviously. Now, this idea of

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<v Speaker 1>digitizing information was pretty much what would allow the transistor

0:18:04.520 --> 0:18:07.159
<v Speaker 1>to become useful. And also it's what would lead to

0:18:07.240 --> 0:18:11.959
<v Speaker 1>things like encoding information onto storage media like uh, like

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<v Speaker 1>a compact disc. This is what would make not just uh,

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<v Speaker 1>processing data possible, but storing it. Yeah, and right, it's

0:18:21.000 --> 0:18:22.920
<v Speaker 1>it's kind of a really beautiful coincidence that both of

0:18:22.960 --> 0:18:26.840
<v Speaker 1>these technologies were being developed at Bell Labs within a

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<v Speaker 1>year of each other. As it turns out, because in

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<v Speaker 1>that is when claudean and actually published his paper Mathematical

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<v Speaker 1>Theory of Communication. Yes, and that's available in PDF form.

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<v Speaker 1>Will will share the link because you can actually read

0:18:42.240 --> 0:18:45.480
<v Speaker 1>his paper on information theory. And this is the one

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<v Speaker 1>that I said earlier that you know, people, people who

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<v Speaker 1>were information theory experts, they say like, this is this

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<v Speaker 1>is like Einstein coming out with the theories of relativity.

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<v Speaker 1>This idea of a complete picture, not just an idea,

0:18:58.720 --> 0:19:01.399
<v Speaker 1>but a complete picture of an approach that laid the

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<v Speaker 1>groundwork for digitizing information so it can be transmitted and stored. Now, again,

0:19:08.359 --> 0:19:10.840
<v Speaker 1>he was a theorist. He did not build this. He

0:19:10.960 --> 0:19:14.280
<v Speaker 1>explained how it is mathematically possible, right, and so it

0:19:14.840 --> 0:19:18.760
<v Speaker 1>left it up to engineers and computer scientists to figure out, Okay,

0:19:18.880 --> 0:19:21.520
<v Speaker 1>if this is theoretically possible, how do we make it real?

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<v Speaker 1>What do we do to actually put this stuff into

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<v Speaker 1>into reality and have it work for us? Uh? Now

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<v Speaker 1>was when it was published, But there are people who

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<v Speaker 1>have looked into Claude Shannon's life who say that he

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<v Speaker 1>may have had this fully formed as early as ninety three,

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<v Speaker 1>and he thought that it was a really cool idea,

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<v Speaker 1>but just didn't think, you know, no one else is

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<v Speaker 1>going to care about this. I would, I would argue.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, from from what I've read, it sounded to

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<v Speaker 1>me more like he kind of had it brewing and

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<v Speaker 1>just didn't want to present it until it was done.

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<v Speaker 1>He did seem like the kind of person who he

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to make sure that he had as complete a

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<v Speaker 1>picture of an idea as possible before presenting it to

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<v Speaker 1>anyone else. He did not want to have the experience

0:20:06.760 --> 0:20:11.040
<v Speaker 1>of coming forward with just half an idea. So yeah,

0:20:11.040 --> 0:20:14.040
<v Speaker 1>he's kind of a perfectionist in that sense. And it

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<v Speaker 1>really is a challenge to explain just to an average

0:20:19.040 --> 0:20:23.119
<v Speaker 1>person exactly how important this theory was, but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>in a in a practical sense at the time that

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<v Speaker 1>he was coming up with this, it was necessary to

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<v Speaker 1>create a better telephone system. So in the old analog

0:20:31.119 --> 0:20:35.439
<v Speaker 1>telephone system, you've got some pretty big limitations, some some

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<v Speaker 1>barriers you've got to get across due to signal loss

0:20:38.480 --> 0:20:42.600
<v Speaker 1>or noise, and analog telephone signal gets weaker the longer

0:20:42.640 --> 0:20:45.320
<v Speaker 1>that the telephone line it's traveling along is. Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 1>in order to get around that, engineers would place amplifiers

0:20:48.480 --> 0:20:51.000
<v Speaker 1>along a telephone line to boost the signal. So you

0:20:51.040 --> 0:20:53.800
<v Speaker 1>get a weak signal coming in, it goes through the amplifier,

0:20:53.880 --> 0:20:57.679
<v Speaker 1>the signals boosted, it's stronger going out. But unfortunately, um

0:20:57.720 --> 0:21:00.280
<v Speaker 1>the along with the signal that you want to get staid,

0:21:00.320 --> 0:21:02.760
<v Speaker 1>all of the noise that's on the line also gets boosted.

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<v Speaker 1>So eventually you run out I mean, I mean just

0:21:05.359 --> 0:21:07.800
<v Speaker 1>the noise takes over. Yeah, Yeah, you lose the signal

0:21:07.920 --> 0:21:09.520
<v Speaker 1>in the noise. So that would be you know, if

0:21:09.560 --> 0:21:13.520
<v Speaker 1>you've ever heard like one of those those telephone conversations

0:21:13.520 --> 0:21:16.880
<v Speaker 1>that goes on in an old movie where it's just

0:21:16.960 --> 0:21:19.720
<v Speaker 1>like all you hear is cracked, like yeah, just imagine

0:21:19.760 --> 0:21:22.160
<v Speaker 1>that if you're far enough away that all you would

0:21:22.160 --> 0:21:23.840
<v Speaker 1>get was the stack. You would not get any voice

0:21:23.880 --> 0:21:28.040
<v Speaker 1>at all. So, uh, the interesting thing was that by

0:21:28.080 --> 0:21:32.320
<v Speaker 1>switching from analog signals to digital signals, they didn't have

0:21:32.400 --> 0:21:35.119
<v Speaker 1>to worry about the signal boosting problem. Instead of a

0:21:35.119 --> 0:21:37.800
<v Speaker 1>continuous signal like a sign wave, which is, you know,

0:21:37.800 --> 0:21:40.520
<v Speaker 1>an acoustic wave, is what you would get with an

0:21:40.560 --> 0:21:44.520
<v Speaker 1>analog telephone line, digital signals are sent in a series

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<v Speaker 1>of bits, and a bit is either a zero or

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<v Speaker 1>a one. That's all based off of Claude Shannon's application

0:21:50.119 --> 0:21:54.320
<v Speaker 1>of Boolean algebra to electronics, and it worked so you

0:21:54.359 --> 0:21:57.000
<v Speaker 1>could do this with telephones, which was great, but it

0:21:57.119 --> 0:21:59.120
<v Speaker 1>meant you could also do it with just about any

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<v Speaker 1>other kind of nation transfer from radio to telegraph, telephones, everything.

0:22:04.359 --> 0:22:06.760
<v Speaker 1>And again this was one of those things that could

0:22:06.760 --> 0:22:09.240
<v Speaker 1>not immediately be implemented. The engineers had to build the

0:22:09.240 --> 0:22:13.680
<v Speaker 1>technology sporting. But once they did, they realized, we can

0:22:13.880 --> 0:22:18.480
<v Speaker 1>build out a nationwide telephone, even a global telephone system

0:22:18.520 --> 0:22:22.280
<v Speaker 1>that doesn't require amplifiers every x number of miles because

0:22:22.680 --> 0:22:26.280
<v Speaker 1>you're never going to lose that that signal clarity, all right,

0:22:26.359 --> 0:22:30.320
<v Speaker 1>Like hypothetically, you can do this with literally zero loss

0:22:30.400 --> 0:22:33.359
<v Speaker 1>in quality. So so long as you don't mind taking

0:22:33.400 --> 0:22:36.240
<v Speaker 1>the necessary amount of time for each bit to be transferred,

0:22:36.280 --> 0:22:39.240
<v Speaker 1>really the transfer speed is the only cap that you're

0:22:39.280 --> 0:22:42.440
<v Speaker 1>working with at this junction, exactly. And Claude Shannon he

0:22:42.880 --> 0:22:45.040
<v Speaker 1>kind of came up with that too. He said, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, if if we have an infinite amount of time,

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<v Speaker 1>you'll have zero signal laws. But that any medium of

0:22:54.760 --> 0:22:58.680
<v Speaker 1>transmission is going to have ultimately a cap of how

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<v Speaker 1>much data it can care y at any given within

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<v Speaker 1>a given amount of time. So it was interesting because

0:23:05.720 --> 0:23:07.679
<v Speaker 1>that was one of those things that ended up becoming

0:23:07.840 --> 0:23:12.400
<v Speaker 1>a challenge to engineers. He said, look, for whatever medium

0:23:12.400 --> 0:23:15.920
<v Speaker 1>you choose, it's and it's specific to each medium. You're

0:23:15.960 --> 0:23:18.600
<v Speaker 1>going to have this limit that you're going to hit

0:23:18.640 --> 0:23:21.120
<v Speaker 1>and you can't go beyond it. And the engineer said,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, we agree, there's no way we can go

0:23:23.280 --> 0:23:25.440
<v Speaker 1>beyond that limit. So what our goal is is to

0:23:25.480 --> 0:23:28.320
<v Speaker 1>get as close to that limit as we possibly can.

0:23:28.920 --> 0:23:32.320
<v Speaker 1>And and this also led into some really interesting side

0:23:32.400 --> 0:23:37.919
<v Speaker 1>concepts about digital compression and error. Yeah exactly, Yeah, you

0:23:37.960 --> 0:23:41.680
<v Speaker 1>had to. You could end up compressing data into smaller

0:23:41.760 --> 0:23:46.000
<v Speaker 1>data packages, which helps you get around that bandwidth cap

0:23:46.040 --> 0:23:47.840
<v Speaker 1>But in order to do that, you also have to

0:23:47.880 --> 0:23:51.680
<v Speaker 1>have that that error correction software, that those algorithms that

0:23:51.720 --> 0:23:55.560
<v Speaker 1>are able to detect and and fix any errors that

0:23:55.720 --> 0:23:59.000
<v Speaker 1>come across while you're transmitting this information. These were all

0:23:59.160 --> 0:24:02.720
<v Speaker 1>laid out his ideas, and and that that error correction

0:24:03.080 --> 0:24:07.280
<v Speaker 1>concept also ties back into the idea that, uh, you know,

0:24:07.480 --> 0:24:10.879
<v Speaker 1>if you scratch a c D, you can still it

0:24:10.880 --> 0:24:13.400
<v Speaker 1>can still be read. Yeah, yeah, because you have these

0:24:13.440 --> 0:24:16.960
<v Speaker 1>extra bits that are built into the data itself, these

0:24:17.200 --> 0:24:20.520
<v Speaker 1>bits that otherwise would seem superfluous. They're not necessary for

0:24:20.560 --> 0:24:23.600
<v Speaker 1>you to have the full message, but those extra bits

0:24:23.640 --> 0:24:27.399
<v Speaker 1>actually allow some redundancy. So if there is some damage

0:24:27.440 --> 0:24:30.640
<v Speaker 1>to the physical medium, you can still end up using it.

0:24:30.760 --> 0:24:33.240
<v Speaker 1>And it's not like you get a smudge on your

0:24:33.520 --> 0:24:36.480
<v Speaker 1>your your disk and now you can't use it. Right.

0:24:36.600 --> 0:24:39.000
<v Speaker 1>So the concept of a disc also being new because

0:24:39.080 --> 0:24:40.880
<v Speaker 1>that was something that he laid out in here, saying

0:24:40.880 --> 0:24:44.320
<v Speaker 1>that this is a method for possible storage, not just transmission,

0:24:44.720 --> 0:24:49.000
<v Speaker 1>but also storage. Yeah, so so big big ideas. Uh.

0:24:49.119 --> 0:24:51.600
<v Speaker 1>At any rate, moving on with his life, I mean

0:24:51.600 --> 0:24:53.480
<v Speaker 1>he's so he's already gotten to the point where he's

0:24:53.520 --> 0:24:55.679
<v Speaker 1>laid out everything that's going to lead to things like

0:24:55.760 --> 0:24:59.800
<v Speaker 1>JPEG's m P three's ZIP files. UH, data transmission a

0:25:00.080 --> 0:25:03.840
<v Speaker 1>ross cable across telephone lines. All of this stuff is

0:25:03.880 --> 0:25:08.000
<v Speaker 1>possible because of the ideas he came up with. His

0:25:08.040 --> 0:25:11.280
<v Speaker 1>life continues on and in nineteen forty nine he marries

0:25:11.480 --> 0:25:15.920
<v Speaker 1>Mary Elizabeth Moore Betty Betty. She was a new miracle

0:25:16.119 --> 0:25:18.800
<v Speaker 1>analyst at Bell Labs, and they would go on to

0:25:18.840 --> 0:25:23.040
<v Speaker 1>have two children together. And he also, during his time

0:25:23.080 --> 0:25:26.600
<v Speaker 1>off from changing the world UH, decided to build a

0:25:26.600 --> 0:25:29.359
<v Speaker 1>simple computer to play chess, and he wrote a paper

0:25:29.359 --> 0:25:33.480
<v Speaker 1>about programming computers and computer chess algorithms. A lot of

0:25:33.880 --> 0:25:38.439
<v Speaker 1>computer like chess playing computers are still based upon the

0:25:38.480 --> 0:25:41.320
<v Speaker 1>foundations that he laid out while he was working on

0:25:41.359 --> 0:25:43.920
<v Speaker 1>this UH. You find that the Claude Shannon in his

0:25:44.000 --> 0:25:46.919
<v Speaker 1>spirit time often did things that that most of us

0:25:46.960 --> 0:25:48.520
<v Speaker 1>would be like, well, you could have a full time

0:25:48.600 --> 0:25:52.040
<v Speaker 1>job doing that. He's like, no, I just want you know,

0:25:52.560 --> 0:25:55.280
<v Speaker 1>I'd like to keep my hand in. Around that time,

0:25:55.320 --> 0:25:58.520
<v Speaker 1>engineers at Bell Labs at that time being ninety nine,

0:25:58.560 --> 0:26:01.600
<v Speaker 1>began to actually create the technolog The implemented Shannon's ideas,

0:26:02.080 --> 0:26:06.560
<v Speaker 1>and they built something called a regenerative repeater and the

0:26:06.600 --> 0:26:09.800
<v Speaker 1>idea was that a bit could be regenerated perfectly and

0:26:09.840 --> 0:26:13.359
<v Speaker 1>repeatedly as long as the bits weren't quote unquote too small.

0:26:13.440 --> 0:26:16.640
<v Speaker 1>So as long as the messages weren't too small, they

0:26:16.640 --> 0:26:21.280
<v Speaker 1>could consistently regenerate a message. Uh and that would mean

0:26:21.359 --> 0:26:24.160
<v Speaker 1>that you would again have no signal loss, You wouldn't

0:26:24.160 --> 0:26:27.639
<v Speaker 1>lose any data in the process because you could just

0:26:27.640 --> 0:26:30.240
<v Speaker 1>just as quickly as it was coming into the regenerative

0:26:30.240 --> 0:26:34.520
<v Speaker 1>regenerative repeater, it would send out a copy the same

0:26:34.720 --> 0:26:38.280
<v Speaker 1>data message back out again. Um. Also to around this time,

0:26:38.320 --> 0:26:42.080
<v Speaker 1>as the engineers at Bell Labs were creating that that

0:26:42.160 --> 0:26:46.600
<v Speaker 1>physical technology to incorporate Shannon's ideas, he started to introduce

0:26:46.600 --> 0:26:48.560
<v Speaker 1>the idea of bandwidth limits. Yeah, this is what I

0:26:48.600 --> 0:26:50.720
<v Speaker 1>was talking about when he said, it doesn't matter what

0:26:50.840 --> 0:26:54.720
<v Speaker 1>medium you're using, eventually you're going to hit that capacity.

0:26:55.160 --> 0:26:59.359
<v Speaker 1>And eventually they started calling this the Shannon capacity or

0:26:59.440 --> 0:27:03.120
<v Speaker 1>Shannon limit. So it was again a very important idea

0:27:03.240 --> 0:27:05.600
<v Speaker 1>that ended up being playing a huge role in the

0:27:05.640 --> 0:27:09.480
<v Speaker 1>telecommunications industry as well as just electronics and computing in general.

0:27:10.080 --> 0:27:13.080
<v Speaker 1>Uh So, this is what gives engineers that goal, This

0:27:13.160 --> 0:27:15.080
<v Speaker 1>is where they want to hit as close to that

0:27:15.160 --> 0:27:18.359
<v Speaker 1>number as they possibly can to maximize the amount of

0:27:18.440 --> 0:27:22.920
<v Speaker 1>data they can shove through any particular medium at top speed. So,

0:27:23.040 --> 0:27:26.639
<v Speaker 1>you know, we often talk about data transmission speeds, but

0:27:26.760 --> 0:27:31.000
<v Speaker 1>speed is really kind of a deceptive term because it's

0:27:31.000 --> 0:27:33.520
<v Speaker 1>not just how fast something gets from point A to

0:27:33.560 --> 0:27:36.520
<v Speaker 1>point B. Usually we're talking about speeds that are approaching

0:27:36.560 --> 0:27:39.879
<v Speaker 1>the speed of light. That's really fast. What we're what

0:27:39.960 --> 0:27:42.960
<v Speaker 1>we're really concerned with is throughput, which is the amount

0:27:43.080 --> 0:27:45.800
<v Speaker 1>of data that can travel at that speed to get

0:27:45.800 --> 0:27:48.240
<v Speaker 1>from point A to point B. Because if you're dividing

0:27:48.240 --> 0:27:50.760
<v Speaker 1>that data up into lots of of bits like a

0:27:50.800 --> 0:27:53.960
<v Speaker 1>long string, yes, each individual bit is moving at the

0:27:53.960 --> 0:27:55.520
<v Speaker 1>speed of light, but you still got to get that

0:27:55.600 --> 0:27:58.040
<v Speaker 1>whole string through. Yeah. Yeah, it's it's the you know,

0:27:58.080 --> 0:28:00.560
<v Speaker 1>getting the campus through at the end. Yeah. Yeah, it's

0:28:00.560 --> 0:28:03.120
<v Speaker 1>the idea of if the if we hear that there's

0:28:03.160 --> 0:28:06.280
<v Speaker 1>pizza in the kitchen, uh, and we're all invited to

0:28:06.280 --> 0:28:09.280
<v Speaker 1>go and eat it. Then the problem isn't that we

0:28:09.320 --> 0:28:11.080
<v Speaker 1>have a bunch of slow people on staff. We're all

0:28:11.160 --> 0:28:13.840
<v Speaker 1>very very fast. The problem is the doors only so wide,

0:28:13.920 --> 0:28:16.200
<v Speaker 1>and eventually four or five of us while just try

0:28:16.240 --> 0:28:18.800
<v Speaker 1>and cram through it, at the same time. So that's

0:28:18.840 --> 0:28:21.880
<v Speaker 1>the difference between just speed and throughput. Now, sept ones

0:28:21.920 --> 0:28:24.359
<v Speaker 1>and zeroes don't usually elbow you in the face, that's true,

0:28:24.680 --> 0:28:28.840
<v Speaker 1>but we have no such restriction, as we have demonstrated

0:28:28.920 --> 0:28:33.840
<v Speaker 1>upon multiple occasions. Now, at this time, engineers were also

0:28:33.840 --> 0:28:36.560
<v Speaker 1>trying to find on ways to take on other elements

0:28:36.600 --> 0:28:39.560
<v Speaker 1>of this theory, like the compression and redundancy ideas, and

0:28:39.600 --> 0:28:44.760
<v Speaker 1>build working devices and algorithms that turned that theory into reality,

0:28:44.840 --> 0:28:48.120
<v Speaker 1>actually making products that could take advantage of the ideas

0:28:48.160 --> 0:28:53.239
<v Speaker 1>that Shannon had produced. And uh. Meanwhile, Shannon received a

0:28:53.360 --> 0:28:58.160
<v Speaker 1>very special present at Christmas of from his wife this year,

0:28:58.640 --> 0:29:02.360
<v Speaker 1>a unicycle, and stories say that he frequently rode through

0:29:02.360 --> 0:29:05.040
<v Speaker 1>the halls of Bell Labs at night on this unicycle

0:29:05.480 --> 0:29:08.760
<v Speaker 1>while juggling. He is my hero because of why not? Now, See,

0:29:08.760 --> 0:29:11.840
<v Speaker 1>if my wife gave me a unicycle for Christmas, I

0:29:11.880 --> 0:29:15.200
<v Speaker 1>would imagine she was plotting my demise and perhaps had

0:29:15.200 --> 0:29:18.040
<v Speaker 1>put taken out yet another life insurance policy on me

0:29:18.320 --> 0:29:23.800
<v Speaker 1>because she knows my my lack of balance. But but

0:29:23.920 --> 0:29:26.920
<v Speaker 1>I I have nothing but respect for someone who is

0:29:27.440 --> 0:29:33.480
<v Speaker 1>transforming information theory while writing a unicycle and juggling juggling. Yeah,

0:29:33.680 --> 0:29:37.520
<v Speaker 1>so because because it Meanwhile he was looking into machine

0:29:37.560 --> 0:29:41.360
<v Speaker 1>intelligence and memory. Yeah, he was really branching out, you know,

0:29:41.440 --> 0:29:44.840
<v Speaker 1>he was he was very much interested in exploring all

0:29:44.880 --> 0:29:48.360
<v Speaker 1>these different ideas. Now, by nineteen fifties six, he decides

0:29:48.400 --> 0:29:51.120
<v Speaker 1>to leave Bell Labs, though he continues on as a

0:29:51.160 --> 0:29:54.680
<v Speaker 1>consultant and he goes back to M I. T. To teach.

0:29:55.440 --> 0:29:58.960
<v Speaker 1>He also wrote a paper he was called the Bandwagon,

0:29:59.720 --> 0:30:02.400
<v Speaker 1>and uh, that's when he said he didn't really like

0:30:02.480 --> 0:30:06.280
<v Speaker 1>how the words information theory were being thrown around. So

0:30:06.640 --> 0:30:09.040
<v Speaker 1>essentially what he was saying was that they were losing

0:30:09.080 --> 0:30:11.880
<v Speaker 1>their value. Information theory as a concept was losing its

0:30:11.960 --> 0:30:15.160
<v Speaker 1>value because companies were using it to describe things that

0:30:15.240 --> 0:30:18.480
<v Speaker 1>didn't really fall within the umbrella of information. Yeah. It

0:30:18.520 --> 0:30:21.880
<v Speaker 1>was a really popular and pop culture almost term in

0:30:21.880 --> 0:30:24.400
<v Speaker 1>the scientific community at the time. And I mean people

0:30:24.400 --> 0:30:27.840
<v Speaker 1>were publishing papers that had information theory and the title

0:30:27.960 --> 0:30:30.600
<v Speaker 1>just because they thought it sounded cool, when in fact, right,

0:30:30.680 --> 0:30:32.720
<v Speaker 1>it had nothing to do with that. So it was

0:30:32.760 --> 0:30:36.440
<v Speaker 1>kind of like how virtual reality became this buzzword that

0:30:36.920 --> 0:30:40.840
<v Speaker 1>began to lose meaning, particularly when the public started to

0:30:40.880 --> 0:30:44.160
<v Speaker 1>see what the reality of the field was as compared

0:30:44.200 --> 0:30:47.320
<v Speaker 1>to the Hollywood depiction of what virtual reality was back

0:30:47.360 --> 0:30:51.120
<v Speaker 1>in the early nineties. Sure, sure like artificial intelligence or

0:30:51.360 --> 0:30:53.480
<v Speaker 1>I read an essay recently from the guy who coined

0:30:53.560 --> 0:30:55.840
<v Speaker 1>the term manic Pixie dreamgirls saying that he just wished

0:30:55.880 --> 0:30:58.680
<v Speaker 1>he had never done that thing. I would like to

0:30:58.720 --> 0:31:02.200
<v Speaker 1>apologize to the world. Yeah. So this was one of

0:31:02.240 --> 0:31:04.920
<v Speaker 1>those interesting things were the paper wasn't so much about

0:31:05.360 --> 0:31:09.000
<v Speaker 1>advancing the concept, but just saying, let's use our words

0:31:09.160 --> 0:31:13.280
<v Speaker 1>carefully and correctly. He said that perhaps the term had

0:31:13.440 --> 0:31:17.840
<v Speaker 1>quote ballooned to an importance beyond its actual accomplishments end quote.

0:31:18.000 --> 0:31:20.480
<v Speaker 1>I think that's a little bit modest on his part, Honestly,

0:31:20.560 --> 0:31:23.920
<v Speaker 1>I think so too, considering that again, without that theory,

0:31:24.080 --> 0:31:28.040
<v Speaker 1>computers and electronics would not work the way they do today. Yeah,

0:31:28.080 --> 0:31:31.080
<v Speaker 1>but at any rate, this kind of marked the beginning

0:31:31.120 --> 0:31:36.280
<v Speaker 1>of Shannon's disappearance from the research and technology scene. He

0:31:36.280 --> 0:31:38.960
<v Speaker 1>he really didn't want to be a celebrity, I think,

0:31:39.080 --> 0:31:41.880
<v Speaker 1>and he had this huge push from the media and

0:31:41.920 --> 0:31:45.760
<v Speaker 1>the government and science in general to be made into one,

0:31:45.920 --> 0:31:48.840
<v Speaker 1>and it it kind of pulled him away from from

0:31:48.840 --> 0:31:52.600
<v Speaker 1>both research and public education, right and he was it

0:31:52.680 --> 0:31:55.640
<v Speaker 1>wasn't that he was cold from why, I understand whenever

0:31:55.640 --> 0:31:58.120
<v Speaker 1>he gave talks they were really great, and whenever he

0:31:58.160 --> 0:32:01.600
<v Speaker 1>wrote papers they were really great. He was constantly being

0:32:01.600 --> 0:32:04.360
<v Speaker 1>pressured to do that, and it was starting to become

0:32:04.400 --> 0:32:07.760
<v Speaker 1>more of something that would cause him anxiety as opposed

0:32:07.800 --> 0:32:10.920
<v Speaker 1>to something that he would enjoy doing well. In nineteen

0:32:11.000 --> 0:32:13.880
<v Speaker 1>seventy three, the Information Theory Society, which is part of

0:32:13.880 --> 0:32:18.520
<v Speaker 1>the I Triple E or I, created an annual Shannon

0:32:18.640 --> 0:32:22.840
<v Speaker 1>lecture that became the Shannon Award UH And in nineteen

0:32:22.840 --> 0:32:26.160
<v Speaker 1>seventy eight, Claude Shannon officially retired from m T, although

0:32:26.200 --> 0:32:28.840
<v Speaker 1>he had not really been actively working there for some

0:32:28.920 --> 0:32:32.560
<v Speaker 1>years before. Certainly UH and in nineteen eight seven, Claude

0:32:32.560 --> 0:32:37.000
<v Speaker 1>Shannon gave his last interview to Omni Magazine. Now, by

0:32:37.040 --> 0:32:40.560
<v Speaker 1>the late eighties, Claude Shannon began to suffer from Alzheimer's

0:32:40.800 --> 0:32:44.000
<v Speaker 1>and withdrew from the public eye entirely. His wife would

0:32:44.040 --> 0:32:47.719
<v Speaker 1>go and attend events instead in his place, and in

0:32:47.840 --> 0:32:50.680
<v Speaker 1>February two thousand one, at the age of eighty four,

0:32:50.760 --> 0:32:54.960
<v Speaker 1>he would pass away. Yes, there are some very UH

0:32:55.120 --> 0:32:58.920
<v Speaker 1>inspiring and moving tributes to Claude Shannon that were published.

0:32:59.400 --> 0:33:03.200
<v Speaker 1>Really beautiful things. You can certainly go online and read

0:33:03.240 --> 0:33:05.760
<v Speaker 1>a lot of those those tributes that were written the

0:33:06.280 --> 0:33:10.520
<v Speaker 1>week and month following his passing. And we have a

0:33:10.560 --> 0:33:13.960
<v Speaker 1>collection of interesting little trivia that we didn't really want

0:33:13.960 --> 0:33:18.479
<v Speaker 1>to fit into the overall episode. But it didn't really

0:33:18.520 --> 0:33:20.440
<v Speaker 1>fit into the timeline. But so much of I mean,

0:33:20.680 --> 0:33:23.520
<v Speaker 1>if it wasn't charming enough, I mean, if charming is

0:33:23.560 --> 0:33:25.680
<v Speaker 1>the correct word, actually charming is totally the correct word.

0:33:25.680 --> 0:33:29.320
<v Speaker 1>According to me, I find it downright charming that he wrote,

0:33:29.920 --> 0:33:33.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, papers that mathematically proved the computers can exist.

0:33:34.200 --> 0:33:37.080
<v Speaker 1>But but but but other than that, there's just a

0:33:37.120 --> 0:33:42.520
<v Speaker 1>lot of little just so. So one of those things

0:33:42.720 --> 0:33:44.520
<v Speaker 1>is that, you know, we just said he he was

0:33:44.560 --> 0:33:47.440
<v Speaker 1>not big on on pursuing the limelight. He didn't he

0:33:47.480 --> 0:33:50.160
<v Speaker 1>didn't go after that at all, and and often he

0:33:50.200 --> 0:33:54.560
<v Speaker 1>would reluctantly take the stage, but as time went on,

0:33:54.640 --> 0:33:58.600
<v Speaker 1>he did that even less frequently. He wouldn't go out

0:33:58.840 --> 0:34:02.520
<v Speaker 1>very much at all to address the public, and according

0:34:02.560 --> 0:34:05.080
<v Speaker 1>to M I. T. Technology Review, he even had a

0:34:05.120 --> 0:34:09.960
<v Speaker 1>file labeled letters I've procrastinated too long on So if

0:34:10.040 --> 0:34:13.040
<v Speaker 1>he got something from colleagues or government officials or scientific

0:34:13.120 --> 0:34:17.120
<v Speaker 1>institutions and had just been sitting around for a really

0:34:17.160 --> 0:34:19.399
<v Speaker 1>long while. He would just put this in a file, saying, well,

0:34:20.320 --> 0:34:22.680
<v Speaker 1>that's too that's too late, and that's never gonna happen.

0:34:22.680 --> 0:34:25.960
<v Speaker 1>So I'm just gonna put that in this file. Um. He,

0:34:26.640 --> 0:34:29.440
<v Speaker 1>like we said, love to build stuff, to engineer stuff.

0:34:29.440 --> 0:34:32.839
<v Speaker 1>You know that whole telegraph line stories one of my favorites. Um. Now,

0:34:32.880 --> 0:34:36.080
<v Speaker 1>as a parent, he built a chairlift that would take

0:34:36.120 --> 0:34:39.839
<v Speaker 1>his kids from his house to a nearby lake so

0:34:39.880 --> 0:34:41.799
<v Speaker 1>they didn't have to walk the whole way to the lake.

0:34:42.360 --> 0:34:45.800
<v Speaker 1>He also, from what I understand, designed a hidden panel

0:34:45.840 --> 0:34:48.840
<v Speaker 1>in his office that didn't lead anywhere at all. He

0:34:48.960 --> 0:34:51.360
<v Speaker 1>just he just felt like building one. He just needed it.

0:34:51.360 --> 0:34:53.720
<v Speaker 1>It made me think of a Mitchell and Web sketch

0:34:53.760 --> 0:35:00.640
<v Speaker 1>where this wall must rotate both here and not here. Look, Mite,

0:35:00.640 --> 0:35:04.040
<v Speaker 1>that's a load bearing wool. But anyway, he just decided

0:35:04.040 --> 0:35:06.720
<v Speaker 1>he wanted to make one. He also built a life

0:35:06.719 --> 0:35:11.520
<v Speaker 1>sized electric mouse named Theseus, after the Greek mythology figure

0:35:12.040 --> 0:35:14.239
<v Speaker 1>that's the one who was stuck in the labyrinth that

0:35:14.320 --> 0:35:17.120
<v Speaker 1>had to find his way out in the minotaur or minotar,

0:35:17.200 --> 0:35:21.280
<v Speaker 1>depending upon your preferred pronunciations, after him. So this mouse,

0:35:21.360 --> 0:35:23.600
<v Speaker 1>what it would do is it would explore a maze

0:35:23.640 --> 0:35:26.400
<v Speaker 1>and quote unquote remember where it comes from. It was

0:35:26.480 --> 0:35:29.879
<v Speaker 1>it was going after some little metal cheese bits. I think.

0:35:30.320 --> 0:35:33.080
<v Speaker 1>So the the way this mouse would go through the

0:35:33.080 --> 0:35:35.160
<v Speaker 1>maze is it would go down a pathway and whenever

0:35:35.200 --> 0:35:39.799
<v Speaker 1>the pathway would branch, it would start to rotate. Yeah,

0:35:39.800 --> 0:35:41.799
<v Speaker 1>so it would take one and then it would, uh,

0:35:42.080 --> 0:35:46.040
<v Speaker 1>it could backtrack if it went down an incorrect route, right,

0:35:46.080 --> 0:35:47.920
<v Speaker 1>and then it could take the path it had not

0:35:48.000 --> 0:35:49.600
<v Speaker 1>taken as opposed to you know, if this were just

0:35:49.680 --> 0:35:53.520
<v Speaker 1>an electronic mouse that had some collision detection, it wouldn't

0:35:53.640 --> 0:35:56.080
<v Speaker 1>It could potentially just go back and forth down the

0:35:56.120 --> 0:35:58.920
<v Speaker 1>same little pathway forever. Yeah, but this was branching that

0:35:59.440 --> 0:36:02.879
<v Speaker 1>this one knew. Okay, well I already took the path

0:36:02.920 --> 0:36:04.440
<v Speaker 1>that's on the right, so I have to take the

0:36:04.480 --> 0:36:06.759
<v Speaker 1>path that's on the left. So it's pretty cool that

0:36:06.800 --> 0:36:09.239
<v Speaker 1>he built this thing, you know, just for the fun

0:36:09.280 --> 0:36:14.240
<v Speaker 1>of it. He built it also probably my my favorite

0:36:14.360 --> 0:36:19.200
<v Speaker 1>robotic piece of his eight juggling robot, a bounce juggling

0:36:19.239 --> 0:36:21.960
<v Speaker 1>robot to be precise, bounce juggling robot that like w

0:36:22.160 --> 0:36:25.400
<v Speaker 1>C Fields to be even more precise. Yeah, it was

0:36:25.440 --> 0:36:28.600
<v Speaker 1>like having a like, imagine a drumhead, right, and the

0:36:28.680 --> 0:36:31.920
<v Speaker 1>drumhead allows things that are dropped on it, like a

0:36:31.960 --> 0:36:34.439
<v Speaker 1>ball bearing to be bounced on it. And then two

0:36:34.480 --> 0:36:39.080
<v Speaker 1>little uh angled platforms that are serving his hands that

0:36:39.160 --> 0:36:43.200
<v Speaker 1>are bouncing this again, these little these balls. Yeah, and

0:36:43.239 --> 0:36:45.200
<v Speaker 1>it just kept it going in a in a bounced

0:36:45.239 --> 0:36:47.960
<v Speaker 1>juggling pattern perfectly. And he basically made it out of

0:36:48.040 --> 0:36:50.640
<v Speaker 1>like erector set pieces. Yeah, you know, just like you do.

0:36:50.880 --> 0:36:52.520
<v Speaker 1>And then he wrote a paper on the dynamics of

0:36:52.600 --> 0:36:55.560
<v Speaker 1>keeping multiple objects in the air simultaneously. It's pretty famous

0:36:55.640 --> 0:36:57.960
<v Speaker 1>within the juggling community. I tried to read it what

0:36:58.160 --> 0:37:00.600
<v Speaker 1>I actually wrote, how Juggling works for how stuff works

0:37:00.600 --> 0:37:02.759
<v Speaker 1>dot com. In fact, if you go to that that

0:37:03.239 --> 0:37:05.319
<v Speaker 1>article on how stuff works and you look up how

0:37:05.440 --> 0:37:09.880
<v Speaker 1>juggling works, there's a video of me juggling in that article.

0:37:10.120 --> 0:37:11.759
<v Speaker 1>I still I still say it because I juggle a

0:37:11.800 --> 0:37:13.440
<v Speaker 1>little bit. I still say that we really need to

0:37:13.480 --> 0:37:17.680
<v Speaker 1>do a video of all Right, I juggled torches in mine.

0:37:17.719 --> 0:37:21.000
<v Speaker 1>You're ready to pick those up? Okay, well, well we'll

0:37:21.040 --> 0:37:24.279
<v Speaker 1>start small. Uh. He also made a robot that could

0:37:24.280 --> 0:37:27.640
<v Speaker 1>solve a Rubic's cube, which is pretty amazing. I mean,

0:37:27.680 --> 0:37:31.239
<v Speaker 1>obviously that needs I can't either. I know there are

0:37:31.320 --> 0:37:34.880
<v Speaker 1>algorithms for how to solve it the most efficiently, and

0:37:34.920 --> 0:37:36.880
<v Speaker 1>I've seen people who are really good at who just

0:37:37.600 --> 0:37:40.239
<v Speaker 1>like it's like it's like magic. You know. The way

0:37:40.280 --> 0:37:42.840
<v Speaker 1>I saw a Rubik's cube is by peeling the stickers

0:37:42.840 --> 0:37:46.680
<v Speaker 1>off and then replacing them properly. I cheat, but yeah, no.

0:37:46.800 --> 0:37:49.319
<v Speaker 1>He he created a robot that could follow these algorithms

0:37:49.320 --> 0:37:52.040
<v Speaker 1>and also just recognize what the pattern was on any

0:37:52.080 --> 0:37:54.320
<v Speaker 1>given side, so it could, you know, create the rules

0:37:54.320 --> 0:37:57.120
<v Speaker 1>that needed to solve it. UM and he made a

0:37:57.160 --> 0:38:01.680
<v Speaker 1>calculator that worked with Roman numerals. It was called throwback,

0:38:02.239 --> 0:38:06.160
<v Speaker 1>which stood for a thrifty Roman numerical backward looking computer.

0:38:07.000 --> 0:38:11.399
<v Speaker 1>UM also rocket powered Frisbees and motorized poco sticks. Yes,

0:38:11.640 --> 0:38:14.040
<v Speaker 1>the motorized pogo stick. I was thinking, like, again, that

0:38:14.080 --> 0:38:18.040
<v Speaker 1>sounds terrible. If the unicycle hadn't killed me already, that

0:38:18.160 --> 0:38:23.120
<v Speaker 1>certainly would. He built the ultimate machine. My favorite machine

0:38:23.200 --> 0:38:26.120
<v Speaker 1>of all time is the ultimate machine. All right, tell

0:38:26.160 --> 0:38:28.839
<v Speaker 1>us about it, Jonathan. All right. Now, imagine you have

0:38:29.320 --> 0:38:32.520
<v Speaker 1>before you a box, and on that box you can

0:38:32.560 --> 0:38:35.120
<v Speaker 1>see the outline of a trap door, and the only

0:38:35.239 --> 0:38:39.280
<v Speaker 1>other really interesting feature on this box is a simple

0:38:39.440 --> 0:38:43.000
<v Speaker 1>switch has switched to off, and you push the switch

0:38:43.040 --> 0:38:46.560
<v Speaker 1>to on. The trap door opens and a hand emerges

0:38:46.719 --> 0:38:50.040
<v Speaker 1>from beneath the trap door and hits the switch back

0:38:50.040 --> 0:38:52.200
<v Speaker 1>to the off position, with draws back inside and trap

0:38:52.239 --> 0:38:55.760
<v Speaker 1>door closes. That's it. That's it. You hit the switch

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<v Speaker 1>and the harm comes back out yet the switch, the

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<v Speaker 1>arm comes back out. Uh. I want to share this

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<v Speaker 1>video too. There's a video of a brilliant variation of

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<v Speaker 1>the Ultimate Machine that is hysterically funny. It doesn't just

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<v Speaker 1>do that like, it starts to do it so um.

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<v Speaker 1>It ends up at first looking like it's a variation

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<v Speaker 1>on the Ultimate Machine, like oh, that's cute, But then

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<v Speaker 1>it starts doing other things too, because this particular box

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<v Speaker 1>had wheels on it and can move autll the way,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's starting to avoid the person who's trying to

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<v Speaker 1>hit the switch, or it would playback prerecorded messages saying

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<v Speaker 1>like hey, hands off, buddy, that kind of stuff and

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<v Speaker 1>was really really entertaining. So we'll share that one as well.

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<v Speaker 1>But you have to remember that that particular very entertaining

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<v Speaker 1>machine is based off this thing that Claude Shannon built

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<v Speaker 1>for no reason other than it tickled him just because

0:39:42.600 --> 0:39:47.239
<v Speaker 1>he could. Um. He also had a collection of exotic unicycles,

0:39:47.280 --> 0:39:50.000
<v Speaker 1>including some that were because he he was wondering, how

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<v Speaker 1>small could you make a unicycle before someone would be

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<v Speaker 1>unable to write it? Uh? For me, that's any size.

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<v Speaker 1>But but I think me too, that would be any size.

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<v Speaker 1>Assuming that you are capable of writing a unicycle, how

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<v Speaker 1>small could you go before you could no longer maintain

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<v Speaker 1>your balance? In fact, he had a couple that I've

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<v Speaker 1>heard are essentially unwriteable. Uh. He also lectured on using

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<v Speaker 1>information theory as an application to playing the stock market,

0:40:16.320 --> 0:40:18.480
<v Speaker 1>though he never really published any work on this. He

0:40:18.520 --> 0:40:20.440
<v Speaker 1>did do a lecture, but he didn't write a paper.

0:40:21.360 --> 0:40:23.320
<v Speaker 1>He also did really well in the stock market himself,

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<v Speaker 1>although he wasn't necessarily employing information theory to do so.

0:40:27.520 --> 0:40:31.680
<v Speaker 1>He was investing in companies that friends of his. Yeah,

0:40:31.880 --> 0:40:36.280
<v Speaker 1>he made some very savvy stock purchases based on amazing

0:40:36.280 --> 0:40:38.120
<v Speaker 1>work that his friends were doing. These are These are

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<v Speaker 1>the people who were inventing like the basic components of

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<v Speaker 1>computers and electronics, going on to form their own companies,

0:40:44.680 --> 0:40:46.799
<v Speaker 1>and he would invest in those and then they ended

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<v Speaker 1>up being these these enormous companies we know today. So

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<v Speaker 1>he did quite well. Um, and there's no Nobel Prize

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<v Speaker 1>for mathematics, which is why Claude Shanna never won one, right,

0:40:57.320 --> 0:41:01.200
<v Speaker 1>but he certainly did win a number, I mean, probably

0:41:01.239 --> 0:41:03.799
<v Speaker 1>way too numerous to mention here awards, but but one

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<v Speaker 1>that we wanted to mention it is the very first

0:41:06.760 --> 0:41:10.440
<v Speaker 1>Kyoto Prize, which was created in Japan to award honors

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<v Speaker 1>to contributions in mathematics. Essentially, it was supposed to be

0:41:13.600 --> 0:41:16.400
<v Speaker 1>the Nobel Prize for mathematics, right, and this was all

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<v Speaker 1>the way in the nineteen eighties, and this came into invention. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the very first one went to Claude Shannon, and from

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<v Speaker 1>what I understand, it actually came with an even larger

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<v Speaker 1>cash prize than the Nobel Prize does. So so if

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<v Speaker 1>you if you feel like he was he was snubbed

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<v Speaker 1>because Nobel Prizes don't recognize mathematics, fear not, the Kyoto

0:41:35.400 --> 0:41:38.880
<v Speaker 1>Prize had him covered. So I hope you guys, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>if you had not ever heard of Claude Shannon before,

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<v Speaker 1>I hope you learned something in this episode, because he

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<v Speaker 1>really did seem to be a remarkable person. In multiple ways.

0:41:47.480 --> 0:41:49.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean, this guy seems like the kind of professor

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<v Speaker 1>I would have absolutely adored um. But then you know,

0:41:53.800 --> 0:41:56.520
<v Speaker 1>I like all of my professors who had lots of personality,

0:41:56.560 --> 0:41:59.680
<v Speaker 1>and we're unafraid of coming across as a little unusual

0:41:59.800 --> 0:42:04.719
<v Speaker 1>or yeah those are my favorite. Yeah, so awesome. And

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