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Speaker 2: It's the final hour on this Tuesday, Dan and the
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Speaker 2: on Trevor Lawrence's ankle, probably having an MRI or had
Speaker 2: an MRI, and then we'll probably hear from Doug Peterson
Speaker 2: a little bit later on today. I don't know if
Speaker 2: Jake Browning is the second coming of Nick Foles, but
Speaker 2: he certainly looked good last night for the Cincinnati Bengals.
Speaker 2: Jake Browning looked like Joe Burrow. But if you're the
Speaker 2: Jacksonville Jaguars standalone game, you have to win that game.
Speaker 3: I know you had a chance to win it.
Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence goes down with a sprained ankle, but you
Speaker 2: shouldn't have been in that situation to begin with. You
Speaker 2: want to prove that you're one of the elite teams,
Speaker 2: and you could have taken advantage of that game last night.
Speaker 3: With a win.
Speaker 2: You would have had home field advantage with some tiebreakers
Speaker 2: in there. That's what you need. You don't want to
Speaker 2: be going to Kansas City. You want to be staying
Speaker 2: at home hosting those teams. Good team, but I don't
Speaker 2: know if they're a great team, and we keep waiting
Speaker 2: for that. And with Trevor Lawrence banged up, short work week,
Speaker 2: now you go to Cleveland to go against that defense.
Speaker 2: Granted Cleveland doesn't have a quarterback, but that defense is
Speaker 2: going to be barreling down on Trevor Lawrence if he's
Speaker 2: able to play.
Speaker 3: But give credit to the Bengals.
Speaker 2: They are at least alive because there are a few
Speaker 2: teams that are alive right now in the AFC, and
Speaker 2: Cincinnati is in the mix. Mixed reports on Zach Wilson
Speaker 2: reports yesterday saying that he told players, staff and coaches that.
Speaker 3: He didn't want to play.
Speaker 2: He was apprehensive about putting himself out there and maybe
Speaker 2: injuring himself. And we brought up I think I guess
Speaker 2: all sides with this. Did Jets quit on him? He's
Speaker 2: quitting on the Jets. They gave him a big second chance.
Speaker 2: You're going to give him a third chance here. It's
Speaker 2: career suicide. He wants self preservation. I don't want to play.
Speaker 2: I might get hurt. He's killing his career in the process.
Speaker 2: If the story is true, that that's what he said.
Speaker 2: Now I get it. You don't want to be behind
Speaker 2: that offensive line. I understand that. What happens the next
Speaker 2: team you go to? What if they have a subpar,
Speaker 2: substandard offensive line? Do you say I might want to
Speaker 2: get behind them. You have to play, you have to
Speaker 2: want to play. But can you get out in front
Speaker 2: of this today? Can you say something? Should you say something?
Speaker 2: If it's not true, you better be saying something. But
Speaker 2: there's reports that Aaron Rodgers is sort of a mediator
Speaker 2: in this, so there is something to this. To what
Speaker 2: extent was he joking? Was he sort of, Oh my god,
Speaker 2: I got to get behind Huh, I'm going to.
Speaker 3: Be running for my life?
Speaker 4: Is that it?
Speaker 3: Why is Aaron Rodgers involved in this?
Speaker 2: If it's a off the cuff now sort of hey, yeah,
Speaker 2: uh sure, yeah, I'll get back there. I mean, what
Speaker 2: could happen? You know, I get killed? What's going to
Speaker 2: happen today? That's what I want to know? And you
Speaker 2: got those reporters are ready to go, because if I'm there,
Speaker 2: I want to know. I mean, Aaron Rodgers is on
Speaker 2: McAfee today, I'm going right there. First question, when's the
Speaker 2: last time you talked to Zach Wilson? Can you give
Speaker 2: me an idea. What the conversation was like, did he
Speaker 2: say he did not want to play? What was your
Speaker 2: advice to him? Who do you think is the quarterback
Speaker 2: going to be? Next game? That's where I go. I mean,
Speaker 2: we can get to Aaron's Achilles. We'll get to that
Speaker 2: in the timeframe. It's still there, by the way. Let's
Speaker 2: get to Zach Wilson all right, eight seven seven three
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Speaker 5: Aaron, did you talk to Zach? There was a communion
Speaker 5: What do you mean am I talking to Yes, we
Speaker 5: have an understanding out of community. Sometimes we don't need
Speaker 5: to talk. There was a certain expression.
Speaker 6: Mutual.
Speaker 7: What does it mean to tell someone? What does it
Speaker 7: mean to hear him?
Speaker 3: UH?
Speaker 2: Heisman finalists Jaden Daniels, consultation I've had Jaden Daniels, Ayahuasca
Speaker 2: was involved, Marvin Harrison Junior, the third, bo Nix and
Speaker 2: Michael Pennox.
Speaker 3: Let's guess the order of the Heisman voting.
Speaker 7: Oh, guess that order?
Speaker 2: Yeah, And once again I was asked by the Heisman
Speaker 2: committee not to say that I voted for uh, Jade
Speaker 2: and Daniels. So I am not going to say that, Todd,
Speaker 2: what's the order.
Speaker 8: I'm gonna say, Daniels one, Pennix two, Nicks three, Harrison.
Speaker 5: Fourth, Thanks Seed, no Ol Connor same, Daniels, Pennix, Nix, Harrison.
Speaker 3: Hey, Marvin, that's three for three, think Paulie.
Speaker 7: I have to go with Michael Pennox winning it in
Speaker 7: one of the closest ones of all time over Jaden Daniels,
Speaker 7: Bo Nick's third, Marvin Harrison Junith four.
Speaker 3: I think it's going to be a landslide for Jadeen Daniels.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna put Pennix in their second because he beat
Speaker 2: bo Knicks twice. I'm gonna put I'm gonna put bow
Speaker 2: Nicks in third, and Marvin Harrison.
Speaker 3: Junior the third.
Speaker 5: Four out of five.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, so uh yeah, Jayden and Daniels is gonna win.
Speaker 3: The high school got that token wide receiver. Yeah, inclusion
Speaker 3: we have that quarterbacks? Is that just quarterbacks? We got
Speaker 3: a wide receiver. We had a wide receiver winned a
Speaker 3: couple of years ago.
Speaker 2: That was probably Davante Smith computer in that wild who
Speaker 2: finished second in that Heisman race, Because I Davante Smith
Speaker 2: was a difference maker, and you know when they had
Speaker 2: one or two receivers went down with injuries.
Speaker 3: I mean he played, waddle went down. He played wonderful.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Paul Trevor Lawrence finished second behind Smith that year. Mac
Speaker 7: Jones was third. Ooh, I'm looking in the past ten years.
Speaker 3: That's not aging well.
Speaker 7: Position non quarterbacks to make the top three. Bryce Love
Speaker 7: of Stanford in twenty seventeen, Derrick Henry and Christian McCaffrey
Speaker 7: were one and two in twenty fifteen.
Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, hello, twenty twenty. People voting on something and
Speaker 5: it's wrong. Hello, Yeah, No, we're hello people, wake up.
Speaker 5: Of course, a wide receiver one at that year. We're
Speaker 5: not going to stole it.
Speaker 6: We're not.
Speaker 3: Alabama stole that Heisman.
Speaker 5: Hello, check the machine, righty, It's funny that.
Speaker 3: Is twenty twenty.
Speaker 5: I didn't go to a wide receiver nowhere man, all right?
Speaker 2: Are we changing up the pole question for the final
Speaker 2: hour because we did the best nine and three team?
Speaker 2: We did, But that's recency bias. I guess we're going
Speaker 2: to get that with the Niners.
Speaker 3: Right, I don't know, they're pretty good. This year turns
Speaker 3: out well and they lost three in a row. They
Speaker 3: the Niners have.
Speaker 5: Sixty nine percent of that vote, the best nine and
Speaker 5: three team, then the rest. We have two teams coming
Speaker 5: in with eight point four to five percent of the vote.
Speaker 5: Those are the next two. Those are they're tied for second.
Speaker 5: That's the Dolphins and Ravens. You want to guess last
Speaker 5: place between the Lions and the Cowboys.
Speaker 3: Lets say the Lions the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 5: Oh, what's that all about?
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Well, once again, we keep waiting for Dallas. All it
Speaker 2: matters is what they do in the postseason. They were
Speaker 2: thirteen and three a few years ago. All we wanted
Speaker 2: to know was what were they going to do in
Speaker 2: the postseason? And the way they flamed out the last
Speaker 2: two years, there's really no indication to think that they're
Speaker 2: going to be different this year.
Speaker 3: But I do think they're I I think.
Speaker 2: They might be better than the Eagles relaxed, I know, I know.
Speaker 3: Sorry, just.
Speaker 2: And look, I'm not a Cowboy fan or apologies here.
Speaker 2: I just I think they figured out what they're doing,
Speaker 2: they figured out who they are. It is December, though,
Speaker 2: are we rolling on this back after this season?
Speaker 3: Does Zach Wilson ever start an NFL game? Yes? No, Paul,
Speaker 3: you put down other I just wanted to give you
Speaker 3: a I feel bad for the kid. Yeah, yes, no
Speaker 3: other Yeah.
Speaker 7: It feels like everyone saying his career is over. His
Speaker 7: career is over. Josh Rosen got chances. Everyone gets a
Speaker 7: second chance.
Speaker 2: But Josh Rosen didn't quit on a bad That Arizona
Speaker 2: line was as bad a line as I've seen in years,
Speaker 2: and he did not go, oh, I don't want to play.
Speaker 3: I might get hurt now. He could have said, hey,
Speaker 3: I don't want to play.
Speaker 5: You know, it didn't seem like he got that many
Speaker 5: chances though. He was kind of in and out of
Speaker 5: the league. Yeah, before he even noticed. I think he
Speaker 5: got a chance as a third string quarterback. I don't
Speaker 5: think he got a chance to play much.
Speaker 7: Yeah, after Arizona, where they gave him one year and
Speaker 7: thirteen starts, where his stats were similar, Like they weren't,
Speaker 7: they're pretty bad. He started three games for Miami. He
Speaker 7: was on the Atlanta roster in twenty one.
Speaker 2: No starts, and he had that hot tub in his
Speaker 2: room legend. I know that's where you don't let people
Speaker 2: know you have a hot tub in the room. You
Speaker 2: let people know who you want to come over, but
Speaker 2: you don't let that get out. Hey, come on in,
Speaker 2: here's my hot tub and that's pre nil hot tub.
Speaker 9: You know, yes, yes, marm Guys like Josh Rosen and
Speaker 9: Jake Browning. Let me know that quarterbacks you'd be able
Speaker 9: to leave after like their sophomore years.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, Jake Browning had forty three touchdown passes when his
Speaker 2: sophomore year at Washington. I remember, I think we might
Speaker 2: have had him on because he was like Heisman buzz.
Speaker 2: You know, hey, let's get Jake Browning on. Let me
Speaker 2: see what else do we have. Booger McFarlane will join
Speaker 2: us coming up. By the way, the show Heyo Tawny
Speaker 2: decision is starting to ramp up a little bit. But
Speaker 2: what you're going to find, I think interesting and unique
Speaker 2: about this situation is it's basically Otani and his agent.
Speaker 2: Nobody else. Uh Buster only of the Mothership said nobody
Speaker 2: has anything because there's no leaks, but it's been reported
Speaker 2: Otani met with the Blue Jays in Florida.
Speaker 3: Somebody leak that.
Speaker 2: You have a couple of teams that will not say
Speaker 2: the Giants to me are the favorites. They are the
Speaker 2: favorites to get Otani and I have no information on
Speaker 2: it other than I felt that all along that's where
Speaker 2: he would end up. But we will play the Otani
Speaker 2: game tomorrow where we think he'll end up, and we'll
Speaker 2: throw in how much money over under five hundred million dollars?
Speaker 3: Yes, Martin, you.
Speaker 9: Know what for Friday, we should do artists from the
Speaker 9: city that you think Otani's going to.
Speaker 6: So you pick a band from San Francsince I got.
Speaker 3: The Bay I got a lot of music there.
Speaker 9: So if I think he's going to Toronto, I'll take
Speaker 9: Drake or you know, New York.
Speaker 3: You can get whoever.
Speaker 2: The Cubs Chicago Cubs are in there, Chicago Artist Show. Yeah, absolutely, Okay,
Speaker 2: So Friday Otani game, musicians from the city where you
Speaker 2: think he'll go. It's a little clumsy, Yeah, a little
Speaker 2: clumsy there, but we'll we'll workshop that.
Speaker 6: At least they're alive, we hope some of them.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're not doing dead although the Grateful Dead from
Speaker 2: the Bay Area, Is that right, Seaton?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah you could.
Speaker 2: I mean Jerry Garcia is not alive, but the dead
Speaker 2: is still alive. Bob Weird believe John Mayer John Mayer
Speaker 2: face guitar face.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, got it.
Speaker 6: I love.
Speaker 2: You can't watch John Mayer without thinking John Mayer guitar face.
Speaker 5: That's why whenever I'm playing my guitar, I'm like, now
Speaker 5: I know why I'm not any good at this because
Speaker 5: it doesn't move me into making that.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, I just play it.
Speaker 5: I'm like, oh, this is fun.
Speaker 3: I never get there.
Speaker 7: Never do that with this thing. With the bands, we
Speaker 7: have to be a very specific seat and help me
Speaker 7: out here. If you think he's going to the Dodgers Otani,
Speaker 7: you have to pick a Los Angeles band. If you
Speaker 7: think he's going to the Angels, you had to pick
Speaker 7: up Orange County band, which I think that's a very
Speaker 7: different tone.
Speaker 5: Gonna be a lot of pop punk for the Offspring,
Speaker 5: No doubt this crack full.
Speaker 3: Of there you go waste my time.
Speaker 5: Alright, Mark Killing, We gotta get out of this credit
Speaker 5: beach front town.
Speaker 9: Huntington Beach is no place for me. Parents want me
Speaker 9: to do right, surfing all day, waste my tent.
Speaker 7: I got Orange County bands. We got a lot to
Speaker 7: work with you. I got Sublime, I got Social d
Speaker 7: Seat and Social distortion.
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's go.
Speaker 7: I got the Offspring. Okay, all right, we're just right
Speaker 7: of Nutsberry Farm. Okay, all right, what if he returns
Speaker 7: to the Angels? You know, after all this, they got
Speaker 7: a lot of money, and they're the ones who initially
Speaker 7: green led him to do both pitching and hitting.
Speaker 3: Lots of money.
Speaker 5: No pressure, yeah, no, let's say out of pressure.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you get October's off Yeah, no playoff pressure. Okay.
Speaker 2: Would you rather have Aaron Judge he got three hundred
Speaker 2: and sixty million, or you want Let's say I get
Speaker 2: Aaron Judge and I get two hundred, let's say one
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty million to play with, because that's what
Speaker 2: it's going to cost Otani. You get Otani for let's
Speaker 2: say five hundred and fifty million, ten years. I get
Speaker 2: Aaron Judge and then I'm going to get another player
Speaker 2: for one hundred and.
Speaker 3: Ninety million dollars. How about that?
Speaker 2: Would you rather have Aaron Judge and one hundred ninety
Speaker 2: million to play with with your or Sho heeo Tani
Speaker 2: for five hundred and fifty million.
Speaker 3: Yes, Tom, I.
Speaker 8: Will take Judge in the one ninety I'm concerned about
Speaker 8: that surgery, and who knows what his future is going
Speaker 8: to be as a two way player.
Speaker 6: It's way too much money.
Speaker 5: Oh, I don't want anybody for ten years. I mean
Speaker 5: my wife, but and my kids and you guys, of course, yeah,
Speaker 5: we're on a solid I think I've worked for you
Speaker 5: for eighteen eighteen years. Yea, and I'm the one of
Speaker 5: the junior guys.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, But you just don't want to sign up
Speaker 2: for that, Like Juan Soto, you want to sign up
Speaker 2: ten years. Like you got Machado, Do you want him
Speaker 2: ten I don't want those players. For Bryce Harper, you know,
Speaker 2: he's gonna turn out to be a bargain. And I
Speaker 2: think they spread out his deal where it's not, you know,
Speaker 2: really prohibitive.
Speaker 5: But yeah, what if you spread it out over forty Yes,
Speaker 5: play as long as you want, but we're gonna pay
Speaker 5: you over the FORTI It's kind of the way a
Speaker 5: lot of these deals are, right.
Speaker 2: We look at Mookie Betts with the Dodgers. I think
Speaker 2: he's gonna get like, what, ten to fifteen million for
Speaker 2: the next thirty years.
Speaker 5: But what's crazy, though, is that in thirty years that
Speaker 5: fifteen million dollars isn't going to be worth nearly what
Speaker 5: fifteen million dollars is when he signed his contract.
Speaker 3: Still going to be worth millions. Yeah, but it's not.
Speaker 5: It's not going to be what millions really are.
Speaker 3: Crypto, you know what I mean?
Speaker 7: Yeah, Pully Mookie BET's contract with the Dodgers ends in
Speaker 7: twenty thirty two. His playing contract, his deferred money from
Speaker 7: twenty thirty three to twenty forty.
Speaker 3: Four is a total total.
Speaker 7: Of one hundred and fifteen million dollars spread out over
Speaker 7: that eleven years where he will not be playing baseball.
Speaker 3: Yeah, smart, Yeah, I know.
Speaker 2: Look, I'm sure they have these Harvard and you know,
Speaker 2: Wharton and all these business school guys that tell your women,
Speaker 2: who tell you this is why it makes financial sense.
Speaker 2: Somebody has to say to you, hey, if you sign Otaani,
Speaker 2: this is the money you're going to make. Well, I
Speaker 2: know I have world marketing here. I want to know
Speaker 2: if he's going to be able to play. Let's start there,
Speaker 2: ten years, another Tommy John surgery. How many starts is
Speaker 2: he going to get? Does he eventually become just a hitter.
Speaker 2: Now I'm spending five hundred and fifty million dollars on
Speaker 2: him for ten years as a hitter? Got I would
Speaker 2: have to know what is my windfall going to be
Speaker 2: on this? What if we don't make the playoffs, like
Speaker 2: do we have to make the playoffs? Or you win
Speaker 2: a world shiit? I know all of those things. I'm
Speaker 2: sure there's really smart people, although I've been doing this
Speaker 2: a long time and it seems like they're really stupid
Speaker 2: people when it comes to spending that kind of money.
Speaker 2: Let's take a break. Booker McFarlane is all excited. He
Speaker 2: is fired up still about Florida State. I'll let him
Speaker 2: speak his piece there, and then I'll remind him that
Speaker 2: this is a talent show.
Speaker 3: It's a beauty pageant. You don't know the rules, but
Speaker 3: you know the end result.
Speaker 2: And unfortunately we wanted chaos, God chaos, and now there's
Speaker 2: chaos because there's cass or something like that. All Right,
Speaker 2: we'll take a break back after this Dan Patrick show.
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Speaker 2: More than one thousand players have entered the Transfer portal,
Speaker 2: including some starting quarterbacks. I'm curious about these bowl games
Speaker 2: because like UCLA with Dante Moore, he's transferring from UCLA.
Speaker 2: Former five star quarterback Riley Leonard at Duke they play Troy,
Speaker 2: he's in the portal. Jordan McCloud's in the portal. James
Speaker 2: Madison against Air Force. Every one of these schools. Max
Speaker 2: Johnson is leaving A and M A and M plays
Speaker 2: Oklahoma State. Will Howard Kansas State quarterback. He's in the
Speaker 2: portal Kansas State's bowl game against NC State. Dylan Gabriel
Speaker 2: Oklahoma they play Arizona. Dj Uyunga Lala he is transferring
Speaker 2: from Oregon State and they play Notre Dame. Kyle McCord
Speaker 2: with Ohio States in the transfer portal. Everybody is got
Speaker 2: a quarterback in the transfer portal. Feels like in these
Speaker 2: bull games.
Speaker 7: Yes, Paulin, could we have Transfer Portal Day like we
Speaker 7: used to have National Signing Day? Three hats in front
Speaker 7: of you. You take the hat of the school you're
Speaker 7: with currently, you put it down, and you replace it
Speaker 7: with your new team. Made for TV on ESPN Fox.
Speaker 7: We could do this at the old signing Day.
Speaker 2: Eh, there's only a couple of those players that I
Speaker 2: really care about.
Speaker 3: Portal Day.
Speaker 2: Yeah, celebrate National Portal Day, all right? We make these
Speaker 2: smooth segue to Booger McFarlane, football analysts for The Mothership,
Speaker 2: appears on college football coverage throughout the season and the
Speaker 2: ESPN's Monday Blitz.
Speaker 3: Other studio shows.
Speaker 2: He was all fired up Yesterdair Sunday talking about Florida State.
Speaker 2: I'm bringing Booger in here. If you were in the
Speaker 2: committee room and they were just ready to go out
Speaker 2: and announce who was going to be in last call,
Speaker 2: what would you have said to the committee members to
Speaker 2: make sure that Florida State was going to be in
Speaker 2: the final four?
Speaker 4: Because I think we have a.
Speaker 11: Problem, and the problem is this is that we're making
Speaker 11: judgment inside this room on what we think is going
Speaker 11: to happen on the field. And need I remind you
Speaker 11: Friday night we watched Oregon play Washington. Everyone that I
Speaker 11: talked to outside of the state of Washington thought that
Speaker 11: Oregon was a better team than Washington. Vegas had him
Speaker 11: as a ten point favorite, depending on which book you
Speaker 11: looked at.
Speaker 4: Washington won.
Speaker 11: Tu Lane was a favorite over SMU. Everyone thought that
Speaker 11: Tulane would beat SMU. Vegas had him as a favorite.
Speaker 11: SMU won the game with a second team quarterback then,
Speaker 11: and I think I would have told everybody, let's be careful.
Speaker 11: This sport has always been a show me sport. You
Speaker 11: played on the grass between the white lines. And regardless
Speaker 11: of what we think we know, how many times have
Speaker 11: we been surprised by teams making a run, whether it's
Speaker 11: Pro football or college football. Remember the New York Giants
Speaker 11: nine and seven wildcard team barely got in. Remember those Giants,
Speaker 11: And I think we all know what happened that season.
Speaker 11: You never know what's gonna happen, and I think we
Speaker 11: better be careful when we start playing the game inside
Speaker 11: a nice, comfortable room eating scrambled eggs and bacon and
Speaker 11: you know, nice little warm fire there because the game
Speaker 11: is not played that way. And I would have just
Speaker 11: put my put my microphone down and told them all,
Speaker 11: if you can honestly say that you know that, you
Speaker 11: know that Florida State can't win a game or two
Speaker 11: in the playoff, then you can sleep well at night.
Speaker 4: But I can't.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the cruel reality of this booger. It is
Speaker 2: a is a beauty pageant at the end of the season.
Speaker 2: Everything that is window dressing during the season. Where are
Speaker 2: you top four or five? Who's in? Who's all of that?
Speaker 2: It comes down to the bottom line. It's gonna be
Speaker 2: fan bases that travel games that are interesting. Will you
Speaker 2: go to two bowl games? Will you fill up the stadiums?
Speaker 2: Will people tune in to watch this? There's a lot
Speaker 2: of ancillary things that happen here. I don't think the
Speaker 2: ACC is viewed as a true power conference. I think
Speaker 2: it's the Big ten and in the SEC Pac twelve
Speaker 2: probably with their conference schedule this year, better conference than
Speaker 2: the ACC. I think this was a reality check for
Speaker 2: the ACC of where they stand in college football. We
Speaker 2: may not like it, but there's unwritten rules. You go undefeated,
Speaker 2: you're supposed to play for a national championship. Well, if
Speaker 2: you have your starting quarterback, I certainly understand that. And
Speaker 2: even if they're backup quarterback booger, if they put up
Speaker 2: twenty eight points against Louisville, I think they're in.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I just think I think the committee looked at this
Speaker 2: and went, there's no draw with this team.
Speaker 3: There's no reason.
Speaker 2: If Jordan Travis plays, then yes, but they it's unfair.
Speaker 2: But it's the reality of this, and that's what people
Speaker 2: have to understand. It's about money and it's a bottom
Speaker 2: line business.
Speaker 4: Oh.
Speaker 11: Dan, I'm gonna disagree with you right there again. I
Speaker 11: think you're doing the same thing if you're projecting, yeah,
Speaker 11: it's a draw. But football has never been about.
Speaker 3: I'm not agreeing with it. I'm explaining it bigger.
Speaker 4: Right, Yes, I get that, but football is football is
Speaker 4: a sport.
Speaker 11: Man like we watch football because we never really know
Speaker 11: any given Sunday. That's the old cliche. And so when
Speaker 11: you start talking about the draw and the matchup and
Speaker 11: what's sexy, who cares what's sexy? This is not this
Speaker 11: is this is not a sport like figure skating. This
Speaker 11: is not that it's never been that. So even though
Speaker 11: we want to make it that out to be a
Speaker 11: beauty pageant, the innate nature of the game of football
Speaker 11: takes you away from being that. And so I hear you,
Speaker 11: and I hear everybody that's saying, Man, it's about the
Speaker 11: money and the matchups and all these different things. Yeah,
Speaker 11: to a certain extent, you can schedule those matchups in
Speaker 11: the non conference, but when you start putting together a
Speaker 11: playoff that is earned. That is something that is earned.
Speaker 11: And so I will go to my grave saying that
Speaker 11: Florida State based on what we do. And to your point,
Speaker 11: here's what I'll say to you. So ten of the
Speaker 11: thirteen members on the committee were the same last year. Okay,
Speaker 11: there's three of their different last year. I think you
Speaker 11: and I can both agree Alabama, who lost to Tennessee,
Speaker 11: who lost the LSU, was a better team than TCU. Yeah,
Speaker 11: I think they were a better team. TCU lost the
Speaker 11: conference championship to Kansas State. They put TCU in the playoffs.
Speaker 11: So why last year did we not go and get
Speaker 11: the best team last year?
Speaker 4: What's the difference? To me? There is no difference.
Speaker 11: So I just think based on the people in that
Speaker 11: room for whatever reason, and I'm not going to speak
Speaker 11: for them. They made up in their minds that Florida
Speaker 11: State can't compete, and there are coaches in the room.
Speaker 11: There's two coaches in the room, and I can't believe
Speaker 11: those two coaches let that happen. And maybe they would
Speaker 11: the ones who were in the forefront of leading the charge.
Speaker 4: I have no idea. I wasn't in the room.
Speaker 11: I just think it's a dangerous game to play sports
Speaker 11: inside the room instead of on a court or on
Speaker 11: the grass.
Speaker 3: I agree, I understand it.
Speaker 2: I just try to explain what was told to me
Speaker 2: by you know, a higher authority involved in college football.
Speaker 4: Do you agree with it?
Speaker 3: I know it's a TV show. I know it's not
Speaker 3: what I asked dan. Do I agree with the four
Speaker 3: teams that.
Speaker 4: Are in correct? Yes?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: And why is that?
Speaker 2: I once again ideal in reality of a bottom line,
Speaker 2: and that is these these are sexy matchups. Marquee mat
Speaker 2: Texas might be the best team. You got Harball in there,
Speaker 2: you got Nick Saban Alabama. I mean, Washington has a
Speaker 2: great quarterback wide receiver, Like we want to see excitement this.
Speaker 2: If the NFL could prevent a team from the NFC
Speaker 2: South from hosting a playoff. Don't you think they would
Speaker 2: do that? Don't you think?
Speaker 3: But they can't.
Speaker 2: They couldn't. They can't. But college football can create we
Speaker 2: eight what they want to create. The NFL can't. The
Speaker 2: NFL would go, hey, you know who's in Cowboys and
Speaker 2: the Chiefs.
Speaker 3: They're in the super Bowl.
Speaker 2: Hey, Atlanta's going to host a playoff game and may
Speaker 2: have eight wins on the season.
Speaker 3: They can't control these.
Speaker 4: Dan If that's the case, why we're playing the games?
Speaker 2: Well, I understand what you're saying. I just have to
Speaker 2: look at both sides with this. Do I think Florida
Speaker 2: State has an argument?
Speaker 3: Absolutely?
Speaker 2: Do I feel bad for that coach, that team, that quarterback. Absolutely,
Speaker 2: But I've been around for a long time doing this
Speaker 2: and understanding what motivates the reason why we're going to
Speaker 2: twelve teams is why booger? Because of money? Why did
Speaker 2: we go from two to four when they finally realized
Speaker 2: how much money they could make. That's why we're going
Speaker 2: to twelve. March Madness used to be thirty two teams,
Speaker 2: it's sixty eight.
Speaker 3: Why it's money. It's not always fair, and that's that's
Speaker 3: where I end on.
Speaker 5: Its money. It's unfortunate, but it's money.
Speaker 3: I get it all.
Speaker 2: Right, Boger McFarlane joining us on the program. If you
Speaker 2: were a member of the New York Jets today and
Speaker 2: Zach Wilson came into the locker room as a veteran,
Speaker 2: what would you say or do?
Speaker 4: Well?
Speaker 11: I think we all have a job, and this is
Speaker 11: called pro football. Like, we're all men in here, and
Speaker 11: we get paid a lot of money to do this job.
Speaker 11: And if he's been deemed to be the next man
Speaker 11: up to come back in and play quarterback, I understand
Speaker 11: the sensitivity, and I understand the emotion.
Speaker 4: That's a very sensitive position. That is a very.
Speaker 11: Mentally challenging issue they have in New York. But at
Speaker 11: the end of the day, I would tell him, you're
Speaker 11: a professional if it's yours. It's no different in baseball.
Speaker 11: If it's your turn to grab the ball, you grab
Speaker 11: the ball and you step on the mount. If it's
Speaker 11: your turn to get under center, you go in to centerment.
Speaker 11: Now here's what I would say. I would tell the
Speaker 11: coach if you want me to go back under center,
Speaker 11: I'll go back under center. But don't pull me. Let
Speaker 11: me play because this yo, yo, going back and forth.
Speaker 11: I can't do that now. If you want me, you
Speaker 11: want me. If you don't, then tell me you don't.
Speaker 11: But what I'm not going to do is I'm not
Speaker 11: going to subject myself mentally to going in and out
Speaker 11: based on the emotion of it an organization and a
Speaker 11: fan base who ultimately doesn't want me.
Speaker 4: They want Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 11: And so I understand as a veteran player what's going
Speaker 11: on in that locker room. Everyone in that locker room
Speaker 11: wants a different quarterback. The only reason they want Zach
Speaker 11: to play is they're trying to get competent play now
Speaker 11: until Eric can hopefully miraculously come back from this Achilles.
Speaker 11: So I truly understand. Damn, it's like this. I'm a
Speaker 11: married man. I think you are too. Imagine if your
Speaker 11: wife said, hey, I want you to hang around another
Speaker 11: month or two until this new hot, young, hot, young
Speaker 11: sexy guy comes along, how the hell would you feel?
Speaker 11: I mean, come on, man, And So I get what
Speaker 11: Zach's going through. But at the end of the day,
Speaker 11: this is professional football. You get paid to check every Tuesday,
Speaker 11: you grab the ball and you go play.
Speaker 2: I get what you're saying, and it's an intelligent take
Speaker 2: on that of let me play good or bad. Support me,
Speaker 2: but don't all of a sudden, after you know one half,
Speaker 2: you're gonna bench me and then I have to regroup
Speaker 2: and then get ready for the following, you know, like
Speaker 2: Mac Jones like don't, yeah, you can't. You're you're not
Speaker 2: going to get any progress. Mac Jones is dead in
Speaker 2: New England, Like he's done right, Yeah, I mean, it's
Speaker 2: just it's amazing. It's amazing. Though we want and that's
Speaker 2: the one position you have to have confidence of all
Speaker 2: of them, we're going to take away your confidence.
Speaker 3: Now go get him.
Speaker 2: But I don't know if maybe he said that in
Speaker 2: a way and it's being spun in a different way
Speaker 2: like hey, I go out there, but support me. If not,
Speaker 2: then I don't want to go out there. Because now
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers gone involved as a mediator here, and it
Speaker 2: feels like there's more to it. I don't know if
Speaker 2: we're making more therefore, that's why it's become a bigger story.
Speaker 11: I would tend to agree with you without understanding the
Speaker 11: entire conversation or the entire quote that's being spread out
Speaker 11: there about he doesn't want the ball. I would need
Speaker 11: to know more. Generally speaking, again, we're pro football players.
Speaker 11: We line up and we go play. They're extenuating circumstances.
Speaker 4: In New York.
Speaker 11: He's he started, he's been like, he's been benched. If
Speaker 11: you go back to his entire career, he's been benched,
Speaker 11: what two or three times, maybe even more than that,
Speaker 11: And so you have to understand the context of what's
Speaker 11: going on with this young man. I've been very critical
Speaker 11: of Zach Wilson going back when he didn't accept blame
Speaker 11: for how bad he played, and so I think the
Speaker 11: kid has been through a lot. I would just be
Speaker 11: careful from New York. Uh, they made the first mistake
Speaker 11: by making him the back up you didn't want to
Speaker 11: move on. Bring somebody else in and not a situation
Speaker 11: becomes less toxic. And so hopefully after this season, regardless
Speaker 11: of whatever Aaron does, if Aaron's gonna come back for
Speaker 11: another year, they get another backup quarterback. Let the young
Speaker 11: man go on about his business, because it's clear to
Speaker 11: me they don't want him in New York. They need him,
Speaker 11: but they don't want him in New York. And I
Speaker 11: don't think the fan base wants to meet.
Speaker 2: I'm just looking at some numbers, the number of quarterbacks
Speaker 2: who have played so far this year. I think it's
Speaker 2: seventy quarterbacks have thrown a pass. They can't make it
Speaker 2: any safer, can they.
Speaker 11: I mean, what are you gonna put flags on? I mean,
Speaker 11: so you can't touch it? Listen, Dan, the rules are
Speaker 11: so bad right now. Sap and I were talking about this.
Speaker 11: If you go and sack a quarterback, somewhere between hitting
Speaker 11: the quarterback and on the way to the ground, you
Speaker 11: have to figure out a way to levitate that way
Speaker 11: you don't land on the quarterback too hard. Like, come on, man, seriously,
Speaker 11: Like some of these things are defined human logic, Like
Speaker 11: it defines physic. How can a three hundred pound guy
Speaker 11: stop his weight in like a half a second and
Speaker 11: then roll over? And I'm like, come on, guys like
Speaker 11: you may as well put a flag on it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 2: Well, Trevor Lawrence got injured by his own teammates. So
Speaker 2: it's some of these injuries are preventable and some are
Speaker 2: you know, self induced here, So that's where I don't
Speaker 2: know what else you can do other than what we've
Speaker 2: already done, which is above and beyond the call of duty.
Speaker 11: I was sold this years ago and it's still true.
Speaker 11: It's not if a quarterback or a player is gonna
Speaker 11: get hurt, it's win. We all get hurt. To think
Speaker 11: about the great quarterbacks, and they've all been hurt. Brady Manny, Rogers, Rivers,
Speaker 11: Matt Ryan, I mean, just go down the list. All
Speaker 11: of them have been hurt at one point or another. Like,
Speaker 11: this is not a game where you're gonna stay pain
Speaker 11: or injury free your entire career. Patrick Mahomes had a
Speaker 11: dislocated me, like everybody has. You get hurt in this game.
Speaker 11: And so to your point, can they make it any safer? No,
Speaker 11: But you can do You can do the old Payton manning.
Speaker 11: Anytime anybody gets near, just fall down. I think that's
Speaker 11: the only thing quarterbacks you do.
Speaker 2: Good to talk to you. I keep fighting a good
Speaker 2: fight there. Booger, Thank you.
Speaker 11: Always enjoyed being on with you man, Happy holidays, you
Speaker 11: and the crew.
Speaker 4: Man love this show. Love talking to you all the time.
Speaker 3: Thank you, Booger. And that's Booger mcfireland of the mother Ship.
Speaker 2: He appears on ABC's college football studio coverage as well
Speaker 2: the ESPN Monday Blitz and other studio shows. Now, I
Speaker 2: love the passion I do. That's why I invited him on.
Speaker 2: We weren't going to agree, but mine is just reality.
Speaker 2: I'm not rooting for or against. Yes, yeah, I agree
Speaker 2: with a lot of what Booger says. But a lot
Speaker 2: of analysts and media people have picked up on this
Speaker 2: figure skating line right now.
Speaker 5: Last year, now it just turns into figure skating. No, no, no, no,
Speaker 5: It's always been figure skating. You guys are just realizing
Speaker 5: that it's always been the rules on which this was changed,
Speaker 5: didn't They're now no different than last year or the
Speaker 5: year before. It was figure skating. Then it was figure
Speaker 5: skating then too. You have style points, you have strength
Speaker 5: of schedule, you have what conference you play in versus
Speaker 5: what conference you don't. That's all figure skating.
Speaker 3: It's all subjective, it is. We like for it to
Speaker 3: be simple. It's not.
Speaker 2: And you know, once again, we're going to twelve teams.
Speaker 2: Why money two to four? Oh my god, look at
Speaker 2: the money we can make. That's what this is all about.
Speaker 2: March Madis was thirty two teams when I was growing up.
Speaker 2: It's sixty eight. Why honey, it's where I always come
Speaker 2: down to. I settle on the bottom line with it.
Speaker 2: I don't like it, but that's what it is. I'm
Speaker 2: not part of the committee, not involved in anything. They
Speaker 2: have to answer for it, but they don't even have
Speaker 2: to answer for it. It's basically just faceless people in there.
Speaker 2: They got one spokesperson. He comes out and you know,
Speaker 2: boo Corrigan goes, uh, all right, and here are the teams. Well,
Speaker 2: why'd you do that? Well, I don't know. This year
Speaker 2: is different than last year, and it will be different
Speaker 2: next year. And then you know, okay, yeah.
Speaker 3: As we said, it's kaiser SoSE.
Speaker 7: They pop their head up every once in a while,
Speaker 7: they talk, they give some type explanation. You don't see
Speaker 7: them for a while.
Speaker 2: I remember I railed on the BCS. They just said,
Speaker 2: go to four teams. Let's get more teams involved in this.
Speaker 2: Give teams a chance. Now we have twelve. That might
Speaker 2: be too many. We're not going to stop at twelve, folks.
Speaker 2: Not all right, We'll close up shop here after this.
Speaker 1: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
Speaker 1: Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific
Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio W app.
Speaker 2: Last call for phone calls, what we learned, what's in
Speaker 2: store tomorrow? Try to accomplish all of those goals. I'm
Speaker 2: looking at quarterbacks right now are questionable. The Raiders situation, Jags,
Speaker 2: and the Saints. Quarterbacks who are out looks like the Steelers, Jets, Colts, Browns, Bengals, Giants,
Speaker 2: Vikings if you look at their starting quarterbacks. The number
Speaker 2: of injuries to quarterbacks that are keeping them out for
Speaker 2: a sustained amount of time or the entire season, that's
Speaker 2: what's different. You get nicked up, you maybe miss a
Speaker 2: game here, not completely healthy, but you've got quarterbacks out
Speaker 2: for the season, and that's the difference. And then you
Speaker 2: want to add an eighteenth game, right, Trevor Lawrence hasn't
Speaker 2: missed a start in his career, but might be in
Speaker 2: jeopardy against the Cleveland Browns.
Speaker 3: All right, what to watch tonight? What do we have?
Speaker 3: We got in season basketball?
Speaker 7: NBA got a little college basketball if you like nine
Speaker 7: pm Eastern on the Mothership, ninth rank UNC versus ukont Okay,
Speaker 7: Marvin working that one?
Speaker 3: Huh are you working?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 6: No, that's a nine o'clock start.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's good. That's smart. Now, I'll be at the house, yeah,
Speaker 2: because I need you here tomorrow morning.
Speaker 5: No, I'll be here, yeah ready, yeah, well you'll be here.
Speaker 6: I'll physically be here.
Speaker 3: You'll be here.
Speaker 8: The Rangers are skating in Ottawa.
Speaker 6: Something to think about.
Speaker 8: King's Columbus Blue Jackets and Red Wings at the Sabers
Speaker 8: three games on the Tuesday calendar.
Speaker 3: Early.
Speaker 6: There's a lot of more games than.
Speaker 3: That, But you're just saying that you're not watching any
Speaker 3: of those games.
Speaker 8: You know what if there's nothing else to watch, I
Speaker 8: mean you take a peek at Ranger Senators like a
Speaker 8: few minutes.
Speaker 3: Why why not? Because it's sports.
Speaker 6: It's live sports happening.
Speaker 5: Yes, at the Wolves Burnley, Lowtontown, Arsenal today it's throwing
Speaker 5: it out there after sash afternoon sash. You could fall
Speaker 5: asleep soccer and that's okay soccer, all right, Look, this
Speaker 5: is no knock. I do it plenty plenty, plenty of times.
Speaker 5: Soccer is much like golf, also baseball. It is great
Speaker 5: to fall asleep too. You wake up the game so you, oh, crap,
Speaker 5: I miss some goals? Rewind real quick. It's great.
Speaker 7: Ye, yes, I'll throw out Nick's surprisingly twelve and seven
Speaker 7: as they always are this time of year, and they're
Speaker 7: at the box in the NBA N Season Tournament. Okay,
Speaker 7: all right, lightly saw soon Maybe you don't watch that.
Speaker 2: Let me see Robert in Texas. Hi, Robert, what's on
Speaker 2: your mind today?
Speaker 12: Hey DP, good morning, Thanks for having me on first time,
Speaker 12: longtime gentlemen, And of course Fritzy got a quick comment
Speaker 12: and an update on Craftensburg State. But the other day
Speaker 12: I was dropping around with my ten year old son,
Speaker 12: huge sports fan, and I had the show on and
Speaker 12: it was a revelation for him. He looked at me
Speaker 12: and said, Dad, what is this magic sorcery on the radio.
Speaker 12: I just looked at him and I said, son, it
Speaker 12: ain't kids bop. He tried calling in, wanted to give
Speaker 12: his best of the week, and he couldn't get through.
Speaker 12: But for Liam, best of the week are right owls
Speaker 12: making the bowl game back to back years and a
Speaker 12: quick update on Craftensburg State.
Speaker 4: Dan.
Speaker 12: Don't know if you guys have been down to Shartsville recently,
Speaker 12: but there is a little bit of rumblings that a
Speaker 12: vocal but small minority is upset with the duke's mascot.
Speaker 12: They think he may have some connotations for colonialism and imperialism.
Speaker 12: So there's a movement that possibly change the mascot down there,
Speaker 12: one of them to honor the local economy of Sharksville,
Speaker 12: the loggers, but also to honor Sir Thomas Crapper and
Speaker 12: the innovation he had with the toilet to change the
Speaker 12: name to the Ballcocks. That said, ted, thank you, Robert.
Speaker 2: Sounds like your son is a great dad to look
Speaker 2: up to. Calling in about Crappensburg State, Josh and Jacksonville.
Speaker 13: Hi, Josh, Hey Dan five eleven that to Gifts. I
Speaker 13: just wanted to keep your thoughts on the Jacksonsrever Lawrence.
Speaker 13: It doesn't seem like he's had much growth, says College
Speaker 13: and I'm just kind of worried about lug board. But
Speaker 13: to kind of get the team to be to say
Speaker 13: that next step, I guess.
Speaker 3: Well, we're waiting. We are.
Speaker 2: That's a good team. I'm waiting for them to be
Speaker 2: a great team. And you're playing in a conference that
Speaker 2: it has become competitive, but you should be running away
Speaker 2: with it. I mean Texans Demico Ryans probably the coach
Speaker 2: of the year. They have more wins this year I
Speaker 2: think than the last maybe three years combined pretty amazing
Speaker 2: what they've done and the fact that your quarterbacks play
Speaker 2: may have gotten a coach fired Frank Reich because his
Speaker 2: quarterback is not performing as well as you.
Speaker 3: Let's go around the room. What we learned on the program? Todd?
Speaker 3: What'd you learn today?
Speaker 8: JJ Reddick realized during his time playing for Clippers Nation
Speaker 8: at Staples they were the bastards steps shout, and not
Speaker 8: only the Lakers, but the La Kings hockey team as well.
Speaker 5: Seeton O'Connor, the second j in JJ Reddick is actually
Speaker 5: an echo. It's just his sisters, Yes, said JJ. One
Speaker 5: sister said it, the other one, JJ, John, JJ Marv Marv.
Speaker 6: Everybody except Paulie has Jane Daniels one in the heisman.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Paulie. What did you learn today?
Speaker 7: Of course, JJ Redick's middle name is Clay.
Speaker 3: What did I learn today?
Speaker 11: Tom?
Speaker 1: What's up?
Speaker 6: From JJ Redick?
Speaker 8: The joker is an absolute psychotic competitory here is believe.
Speaker 8: It's all part of the bit when he pretends that
Speaker 8: he can take or leave hoops.
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