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Speaker 1: and I'll just read the subject line. It says, there's

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Speaker 1: a scamming coward on the dating apps and you need

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Speaker 1: to help me expose him. And his name is Scotty.

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Speaker 1: Don't I'm just kidding. It's an inside joke on the

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Speaker 1: show right now. So we're gonna put that aside with

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Speaker 1: the bottle of peach snaps and everything else that's waiting

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Speaker 1: because she did seem pretty heated in her email. Just

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Speaker 1: on the subject line alone, you could tell. Let's talk

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Speaker 1: to Lindsay. Lindsey, welcome to the show.

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Speaker 2: Hi already coming in hot just with that high. I

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Speaker 2: love it, Lindsay, what's going on?

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Speaker 3: I did?

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Speaker 4: And I want to call him. I want to call

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Speaker 4: him right.

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Speaker 2: Let's take a deep breath.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll into him. Can we know what's this guy's name?

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Speaker 4: His name is Alex and honestly, don't even call him

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Speaker 4: a guy. He's a boy. Wow, Like yeah, cowardly little.

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Speaker 2: Oh oh, what happened? Well, okay, Lindsay, we're on the radio.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we got to watch the language just a little bit.

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Speaker 1: But I appreciate the passion that you have.

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Speaker 2: What happened, Well.

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Speaker 4: We got dinner and it was going great. I felt

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Speaker 4: like we were really connecting, having a good time. He

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Speaker 4: towards the end of the meal he gets up to

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Speaker 2: Oh no, we have taught to people that have done

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's really extreme.

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Speaker 4: I've heard of this happening online. I never thought this

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Speaker 4: would happen to me, and it was humiliating. I felt

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Speaker 2: Oh god, how long did you sit there? Did you

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Speaker 2: get the waiter to like go check on him or what?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Okay, So after like fifteen twenty minutes, I was like,

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Speaker 4: He was gone, yeah, okay.

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Speaker 2: I hate to ask, but usually the people who do

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Speaker 2: this are enjoying the date. Do you think maybe you've.

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Speaker 1: Done this before saying you did something wrong?

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Speaker 2: He usually did it have a really good reason.

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Speaker 1: I come, he isn't like you so much?

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Speaker 4: He left right Like I said, he seemed more into

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Speaker 4: me than I was into him. He was so slurty

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Speaker 4: and funny and like, who does this? What kind of

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's going you just.

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Speaker 5: Don't call her.

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Speaker 2: You have a lot of reason to be upset. But

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Speaker 2: I don't know that he is going to hear you

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Speaker 2: if we're coming in at that level, you know what

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Speaker 2: I mean, Like, what do you want out of this?

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Speaker 2: You want to call him out? And then what I.

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Speaker 4: Want to know what made him do that?

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Speaker 1: So you want to know what's good that we're going

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Speaker 1: the people that reach out to us want another date

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Speaker 1: with the person that we're about to call. Lindsey, you

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Speaker 4: No, I want you to call him and then I'm

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Speaker 2: Okay, okay, I'm here for that. I don't know, like

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Speaker 1: There isn't there There is no good reason a man

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Speaker 2: We have heard where people have had like bathroom emergencies

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Speaker 1: He could have texted her and said something to her like,

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Speaker 1: exactly have you reached out to him since then? Since

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Speaker 4: Yes, I've texted him a lot. He had plenty of

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm assuming you called him a bunch of like

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Speaker 4: I mean I started off nice and then he didn't answer,

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Speaker 2: What's interesting. I mean, as soon as we tell this

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Speaker 1: Well, he won't know that she's on the line until

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Speaker 2: I mean, maybe he wants to out her. Maybe this

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Speaker 1: That women don't do things wrong in the dating world.

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Speaker 5: So the only he's done this.

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Speaker 4: I bet he's done this to like a hundred women,

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Speaker 4: so he can't get away with it and he has

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Speaker 1: Oh you think he does this like all the time

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Speaker 4: Okay, because he was acting so smooth and funny, flurry,

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Speaker 5: Like a book.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So the only reason that you reached out to

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Speaker 4: And if he's going to humiliate me, I'm going to

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Speaker 1: Okay. We're not just doing this for Lindsay today. We're

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Speaker 4: Let's get him, ladies, Come on, I don't even know

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Speaker 1: We are gonna la'm merciless when we come back and

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Speaker 1: If you're a guy, I would not answer your phone

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Speaker 2: Yes she is, claws are.

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Speaker 1: Out because in her mind and I do kind of

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Speaker 2: And that's a day he ate his dinner. It's not

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Speaker 1: But that's what's a point, Joe. That's what happened to Lindsay,

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so that's another thing. He left me to cover

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Speaker 1: Told the manager to take it off the bill.

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Speaker 4: You didn't have to pay, Yeah, I didn't have to pay.

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Speaker 4: But the humiliation of being left alone there was the

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Speaker 2: Okay, Alexis is humiliated just sitting alone at her desk

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Speaker 1: But Brooke, I think we need a game plan so

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think, first of all, we shouldn't accuse

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Speaker 2: you liar, you would say that there could be a reason,

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Speaker 2: That's the whole point of you calling in, right, you

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Speaker 1: He better be in the hospital when we call him.

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Speaker 1: I won't forgive him.

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Speaker 2: The only way we're going to hear it is if

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Speaker 4: Okay, okay, but like we're all on my side.

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Speaker 2: Yes, well the girls do not see you, I mean

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Speaker 2: right now. Yeah, I haven't heard the other side of

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Speaker 1: I don't care what the other side of the story

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Speaker 4: Here we go, let's see what he says.

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Speaker 1: I kind of like it. Here we go. Hello, Hey,

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Speaker 1: we're looking to speak with Alex.

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Speaker 5: Let's see Hey, Alex, hope you're.

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Speaker 1: Having a good day.

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Speaker 2: Hello, Hello, Sorry, Alex, I'm just laughing at Jeffrey right now.

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Speaker 1: Hey, Pas Jeffrey, that's me. I'm a radio host on

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Speaker 5: Hey Alex, Wait, what.

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Speaker 2: The whole show's here?

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Speaker 1: today about what a date you went on recently with

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Speaker 1: one of our listeners. Her name is Lindsay. Please don't hang.

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Speaker 5: Up my god.

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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, you remember Lindsay.

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Speaker 5: Huh oh yeah.

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Speaker 1: So we heard from her that you two went out

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Speaker 2: She thought was going great. She really was enjoying her

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Speaker 1: And then there was the bad part of dinner, which

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Speaker 2: Like yep, yeah, you're just gonna own that. You're not

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Speaker 1: So you admit that, you admit that happened, you walked out.

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Speaker 5: I take full credits to that.

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Speaker 2: What credit's God, that's like a pride thing when you

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Speaker 5: What do you mean because she probably didn't share with you,

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Speaker 5: but I saw her and her little friend before the date.

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Speaker 2: What little friend?

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Speaker 5: What's a little friend? I don't know her little friend's name,

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Speaker 5: her little girlfriend. They were about a block away from

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Speaker 5: so they didn't notice me.

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Speaker 2: What do you see them do? That's so terrible.

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Speaker 3: Her friend is like, seems like she's coaching her for something.

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Speaker 3: So Lindsey says to her friend, oh, my uber app

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Speaker 5: And she like bats her eyes.

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Speaker 3: And and her friend said no, just say a little more.

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Speaker 5: Believably, she's coaching her.

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Speaker 2: Exactly, exactly so she wouldn't have to pay for an

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Speaker 5: She was like, my uber app's not working, did you

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Speaker 5: pay for me? It was like sociopathic the way she

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Speaker 4: So you path the way I did it.

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Speaker 1: Okay, we have to let Alex know that that is

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Speaker 1: Lindsay on the line.

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Speaker 4: What I'm hearing. What I'm hearing, Alex is that you're

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Speaker 1: Well after the thing is, Lindsay, you jumped in too soon,

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Speaker 5: I was thinking, and I feel like I have proof

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Speaker 2: Do you know what he's talking about, lindsay, I I was.

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Speaker 4: I was expecting to be able to get help getting home.

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Speaker 4: I just said that, and there's nothing wrong with that,

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Speaker 4: And so you were your answer to that was a

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Speaker 2: I mean, I want to know, like, if you heard

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Speaker 5: Because here's the thing. As soon as I heard her

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Speaker 4: So I was like, I'm going to manipulate you. So,

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Speaker 5: People do that, but you were practicing over and over again,

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Speaker 4: Girls, and we think like I was like, Hue, who

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Speaker 4: do not laugh with your friends? Like Jesus, you see

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Speaker 5: God, no one, I ordered the most expensive thing on

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Speaker 4: Okay, so that's just confirms you are you are just

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Speaker 1: Anything, you guys are both a little bit of manipulators.

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Speaker 5: No no, no, no, no no no, I only scam the scammer.

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Speaker 5: I was ready to have a genuine date with her.

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Speaker 5: Shut up.

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Speaker 4: After a few drinks safely, and you decided up on

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Speaker 5: You are not women, You are one person.

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Speaker 4: Great, so now I'm not a woman who deserves to

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Speaker 2: Why can't you afford your own uber?

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Speaker 5: Yes? Fine, you guys are not getting it. She was

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Speaker 5: practicing that her uber wasn't working. She can totally afford it.

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Speaker 5: She just wants to take the fool out of somebody.

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Speaker 4: Okay, so chivalry is dead, thank you.

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Speaker 1: A little bit, sus that you're practicing the line to

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Speaker 2: No, it's more than suss. It's like you got caught, girl,

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Speaker 2: You got caught scamming him for an uber ride.

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Speaker 4: I was not scamming.

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Speaker 2: You're not scamming. You're lying. You're lying to get what

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Speaker 1: I am just a shamed that Brooke was on Lindsay's

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Speaker 4: Yeah, like, maybe Brook cannot be part of this anymore.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, thank you for taking my side.

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Speaker 5: I think it sounds like a genuine individual who could

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Speaker 1: Yeah, man, clearly, Brooke, there's always two sides to every story,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I've never heard anyone in that room say that

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Speaker 3: All, so weird.

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Speaker 1: Look, I mean, at this point, we're running out of time,

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Speaker 2: I know there could be a lot of hot passion there.

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Speaker 1: Because we always offer to send you guys out on

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Speaker 4: Just no, I can find a man who doesn't mind

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Speaker 1: I don't mind getting you home after a few drinks.

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Speaker 1: That's why I'm offering to pay.

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Speaker 5: I mean lindsay, I'm actually kind of down at this point.

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Speaker 1: Don't for Lindsey. He's luring you in for another track.

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Speaker 3: What's someone?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 5: What could I possibly weave this time? Dude?

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Speaker 2: And in the end, Alex, I don't know if you

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you.

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Speaker 2: Know what?

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Speaker 5: You know what? That makes me even happier that this

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Speaker 5: That she is getting completely exposed for being the liar

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Speaker 4: Oh my god, this is funny now, Alex, Oh my god, Sun.

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Speaker 2: It around.

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Speaker 3: Takes one to know one, babe.

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Speaker 1: I think we've gotten pretty far in understanding what happens.

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Speaker 1: We finally reached common ground.

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Speaker 2: Thank god, you are such a champion of women generally.

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Speaker 1: Right, I fixed all the problems I knew you.

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Speaker 4: Would, Brook and Jeffrey in the morning.

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Speaker 1: I feel like it's pretty clear, and maybe this is

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Speaker 1: rare occurrence for Lindsey to be held accountable for anything

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it sounds like she just bats her eyes and says.

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Speaker 1: What means the end how her thing was. Oh well

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Speaker 2: Like, that's not what this means. A wait a minute.

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Speaker 2: I thought you two were gonna champion her no matter

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Speaker 1: I'm all about hearing people out.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you would have thought the two girls in the

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Speaker 1: What if he wouldn't have seen her practicing her uber

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Speaker 2: Road, would have paid for her uber.

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Speaker 1: He would have paid for the Uber. There would have

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Speaker 2: I mean, they could be two kids deep by this point.

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Speaker 5: See.

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Speaker 1: I think the real lesson is practice your scam lines

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Speaker 1: in private, or at least in the women's restroom where

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Speaker 5: It is.

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Speaker 2: Remember that, ladies, thank you for the always again, Jim.

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Speaker 1: That's right. We're ready to be scammed by you. We

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Speaker 1: just don't want to know about it. Okay, and text

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Speaker 1: in email the show. We'll call that person who's not

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Speaker 1: calling you back. Go check out all of our second

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Speaker 1: Day podcast wherever you get yours at Brook and Jeffrey