1 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: He's the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show, your war 2 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:10,480 Speaker 1: room for in center news and draft analysis from deep 3 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:14,320 Speaker 1: within the confines of Cowboys headquarters at the Star in Fresco, 4 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys. Like DDE Lambs, your host, Kyle Yeomans, we 5 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 1: are just one week away, one week till the NFL Draft, 6 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:32,559 Speaker 1: and welcome into the ultimate Draft Show coverage of the 7 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one NFL Draft. As we lead you into 8 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 1: draft week with the top three hundred board from mister 9 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 1: Dane Brugler straight off the athletic We're also going to 10 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:44,880 Speaker 1: give you some seven round Cowboys mocks, and then, of course, 11 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 1: hearing about twenty to forty five minutes, we'll hit some 12 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 1: Twitter on the twenty at some point throughout the course 13 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:53,160 Speaker 1: of the show. Glad you're with us, Kyle Yeomans. Brian 14 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 1: brought us, We've got Dane Brugler. Bucky Brooks will join 15 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 1: us coming up in just a little bit, because you 16 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:02,279 Speaker 1: know it's it's draftnos DRAP week now. Because brought us 17 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:07,559 Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks already continuing his coverage and continuing to show 18 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:10,400 Speaker 1: that he's bigger than us at the NFL Networks, at 19 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:13,319 Speaker 1: the NFL Network Yeah, you know, that's what Bucky does 20 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 1: when you're a TV guy, you know, and you don't 21 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:18,760 Speaker 1: have you know, you have to dress up, you have 22 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 1: to look at presentable. Yeah, it's you know, and Bucky 23 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 1: and Bucky went from being a scout to being like 24 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 1: a media star. And you know, we knew this time 25 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 1: was going to happen. The closer you get to the draft, 26 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 1: you know, the media stars are going to show up. 27 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 1: But hey, I think we got the best crew of 28 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 1: scouts on this show right now. So I bet you 29 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 1: we do a really good show with as we get 30 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 1: going here. I like it. Dane. Of course, this is 31 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 1: a big week for you. Are you Is this a 32 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:52,639 Speaker 1: special time for you? Are you really doing anything extra 33 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 1: based off of what your normal draft rep is. No, 34 00:01:57,480 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 1: it's always, you know, the last week is always the 35 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 1: calm of for the storm. It's uh, you know a 36 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 1: lot of information coming in. This This year is a 37 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 1: little different because the medicals are happening so late that 38 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 1: now we're starting to get some of the medical information. 39 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 1: This guy's got a bad knee, this guy's got a 40 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 1: bad shoulder. Um, and you know, I know these last 41 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:19,080 Speaker 1: few weeks gouts have been going to draft meetings with 42 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 1: their fingers and toes crossed that they don't get that 43 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 1: late information about someone that has been taken off the 44 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 1: board because it's something the doctors found. So you know 45 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 1: that that we're getting that late information now about some 46 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:33,360 Speaker 1: of these players, and it's certainly affect the first round. UM. 47 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:35,639 Speaker 1: But just trying to weed through all the information that 48 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 1: we get, uh, you know, what's what's what, What should 49 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 1: we believe, what shouldn't we believe, what's true, what's not, 50 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 1: and so just trying to make sense of it all. 51 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 1: Anybody stick out to you in that regard, Dane, whenever 52 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 1: you're you're you're mentioning these these players that could be 53 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 1: taken off boards. Have you heard any rumors around the 54 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:57,080 Speaker 1: NFL about some of those players? Well, there are, I 55 00:02:57,080 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 1: mean Terrace Marshall's got a knee. Um, that'll be an 56 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 1: shoe for a lot of teams that was flagged. Um. 57 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 1: You know there's some others that you know, I'm working 58 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:07,360 Speaker 1: to confirm, you know, because just because you hear it 59 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 1: from one source doesn't mean that it's absolutely how every 60 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 1: team feels, and so trying to work on some others. Um. 61 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 1: But that's you know, with without the combine this year, 62 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 1: we had about what one hundred and fifty players go 63 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 1: to Indianapolis and get these thorough evaluations, and there's there's 64 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 1: always stuff that pops up, you know, a pre existing 65 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:26,920 Speaker 1: injury we didn't know about, and so um you know 66 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:28,359 Speaker 1: that that's that's gonna be the case with a few 67 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 1: of these guys. Arris Mars, of course, the wide receiver 68 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 1: out of Lsue. You just wanted to hit the LSU 69 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 1: guy right off the bat and just kind of throw 70 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 1: a jab at Brian brought us. I think that's exactly 71 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 1: what just happened from Dane. But we've got a chance. Yeah, 72 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 1: any him and Helm and any chance I get an 73 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 1: I can do that. I make sure and take advantage 74 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 1: for good reason, for good reason. Okay, So we've got 75 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 1: this thing that was kind of patched down, passed down 76 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 1: from up top upstairs. They want us to promote this 77 00:03:56,560 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one Dallas Cowboys Draft Pick Challenge. Of course, 78 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 1: all those who are listing can also be a part 79 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 1: of this. It's presented by Draft Kings and Cowboys fans 80 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 1: are invited to participate in the free to play twenty 81 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 1: twenty one Cowboys Draft Pick challenge. You gotta submit your 82 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:16,159 Speaker 1: answers on Dallas Cowboys dot com by the time the 83 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:19,600 Speaker 1: draft starts seven pm Central Time on April twenty ninth. 84 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 1: And basically what it is is make a mock draft. 85 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 1: You make every one of the ten picks the Cowboys 86 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 1: have are laid out on this draft board, and you 87 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 1: can go through and basically fill out this sheet of 88 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:36,039 Speaker 1: paper and make your picks to potentially what you think 89 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:38,279 Speaker 1: the Cowboys are going to do. It's basically a bracket 90 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:41,719 Speaker 1: challenge like you do for March Madness, but instead it's 91 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 1: with the NFL Draft. And so of course us being 92 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 1: the Draft Show, we're gonna all submit, not even just 93 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:49,160 Speaker 1: these hosts and Bucky Brooks. We're gonna also do it 94 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 1: with Dave, We're gonna do it with Kat, We're gonna 95 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 1: do it with Jeff as well. But every one of 96 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:56,279 Speaker 1: us are gonna submit a sheet of all ten picks 97 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 1: and what we think are going to happen. Brian, we're 98 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 1: gonna let you start things offense. I do I actually 99 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 1: really like your ten picks and what you what direction 100 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:08,480 Speaker 1: you ended up going there. We're trying to guess exactly 101 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 1: what the Cowboys are going to do, not necessarily what 102 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 1: we would do. But Brian, what did you have in 103 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 1: terms of your first round pick traffic? Yeah, I went 104 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:20,719 Speaker 1: with my first round pick. I went with Patrick Certan 105 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 1: is who I went with. I just feel like though 106 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 1: that if you know, there's a there's a couple of 107 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:28,599 Speaker 1: different ways this draft could go, depending on what happens 108 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:31,280 Speaker 1: with pits, with depending on what happens with the offensive lineman. 109 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 1: But I just feel like that at the end of 110 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 1: the day, they're going to take the best player for them. 111 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 1: They're going to take the steady player. They're going to 112 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 1: take the guy that they feel like that they could 113 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 1: plug in and make that starter. And you know, and 114 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:44,919 Speaker 1: we all talked about it, uh you know, really about 115 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:47,719 Speaker 1: what type of player he is, you know, And I 116 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 1: think at the end of the day, that's what you 117 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 1: want to do. You just want to get the guy 118 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 1: that best fits what you can do. But it also 119 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:57,920 Speaker 1: allows you to, uh, you know, to to hit a need, 120 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 1: uh you know, a big need for this team with 121 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 1: that secondary. So to my opinion, Patrick Surtan will be 122 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 1: that guy. As the Cowboys pick at their number ten, 123 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 1: I went with uh TCUs. I went with Morick the 124 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 1: safety from TCU as my second guy. I went with 125 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:20,600 Speaker 1: Dunce at at offensive town. I went and got your 126 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:24,480 Speaker 1: North Dakota State. I went and got my North Dakota 127 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 1: State guy. I went and got my defensive tackle McNeil 128 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:32,599 Speaker 1: from from North Carolina's state there at ninety nine. I 129 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 1: went and got a defensive end with Snowden from Virginia 130 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 1: at four one fifteen. I went and got a linebacker, 131 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:47,279 Speaker 1: Rice from Georgia at one thirty eight, Hawker the guard 132 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 1: from Texas A and M at one seventy nine. And 133 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 1: then I kind of went on a flyer here at 134 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 1: one ninety two. I went with Adams, the wide receiver 135 00:06:56,279 --> 00:07:00,479 Speaker 1: from Arkansas state of six two, type of a player. There. 136 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 1: I went with Lenor the corner from Oregon at the 137 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 1: two twenty seven, and then carry Vincent, my LSU guy 138 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 1: at two thirty nine. So I tried to help the 139 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 1: defense with some mixed in some of those offensive players 140 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 1: that we were talking about. Dame, whenever you look at 141 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 1: what brought us, just did now run through it again, 142 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 1: Sir Tan marrig Radunce, McNeil, Snowden, Rice, Hawker, Adams, Lenore Vincent. 143 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 1: So that's the ten straight up and down. Well, one 144 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 1: thing that stuck out to me was going to get 145 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 1: in that edge rusher in the fourth round. And it's 146 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 1: always tough to try and find an edge rusher going 147 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 1: into Day three of the draft. But with Snowden from Virginia, 148 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 1: I mean, he's a guy who has some high upside. 149 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 1: He's got fantastic length, got great size. What does he 150 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 1: bring to the table if the Cowboys were looking for 151 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 1: an edge rusher maybe on Day three's he's fascinating because 152 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 1: the way you set it up, he's he's really tall, 153 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 1: he's really he looks like a basketball player, and that's 154 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 1: what he was most of his life. That he thought 155 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 1: he was going to be playing in the NBA one 156 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:12,119 Speaker 1: day and now he's getting ready to be an NFL 157 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 1: draft pick coming off a major injury. So that is 158 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 1: a factor here. And just you know, the medical is 159 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 1: being clean and you know, trusting where he is in 160 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 1: his rehab. But six three and a half two hundred 161 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 1: forty five pounds, a really fluid mover, a guy that 162 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 1: can play on the edge. You know, power you kind 163 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 1: of worry about, you know, does he he has thirty 164 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 1: five in charms, but can he use that to his advantage. 165 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:36,680 Speaker 1: Can he weaponize his hands. That's where I think he 166 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:40,960 Speaker 1: needs to really grow to become a full time NFL contributor. 167 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 1: But you love how fluid he is in space, He 168 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 1: shows up in the backfield. He has over thirty cackles 169 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 1: for a loss in his career. There's just a lot 170 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:53,960 Speaker 1: to like about his recognition, skills, his fluid athleticism, his length. 171 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 1: So we got it? What is it the fourth round? 172 00:08:56,840 --> 00:09:05,960 Speaker 1: Or to me? Yeah, and Dane, where where I where? 173 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 1: I have a problem with how this player was used. 174 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:11,960 Speaker 1: I don't think there was a bigger misuse of a 175 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 1: player than this kid. I mean, I'm watching him in 176 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:17,080 Speaker 1: that three or four I'm watching him drop. He's you know, dropping, 177 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 1: he's playing a coverage and then but when he's rushing, 178 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 1: You're like going, Okay, he's got something here, He's got 179 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 1: something going on here. So I thought the Virginia coaches, 180 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 1: you know that they did. I thought they did a 181 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 1: really poor job of using or playing to his skill. 182 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:36,680 Speaker 1: And I understand, you know, Bronco Mendenhall and what they're 183 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 1: trying to do their Virginia, But man, this kid, I 184 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 1: think if you get his hand on the ground and 185 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 1: let him rush, you're gonna you can find a guy 186 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 1: that can maybe be a little bit of a special 187 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 1: player here. I like it. I question if he has 188 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:53,839 Speaker 1: the power to do that consistently, but I do think 189 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 1: if you're able to weaponize his hands, then I think 190 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 1: you're right, you might find a guy that's gonna really 191 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 1: out play that draft spot brought us. What made you 192 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 1: go with where a Dunce at the third third round pick? 193 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 1: I mean, this is a guy, of course, out of 194 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 1: North Dakota State, that was a uh that was a 195 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 1: Senior Bowl guy, really kind of impressed during his time there. 196 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 1: But why why did you go that direction whenever? I 197 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 1: mean there could be some other guys potentially in that 198 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:25,440 Speaker 1: same realm at the third round, seventy fifth pick. Yeah, 199 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, now we are a couple of 200 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 1: guys that I kind of thought about. You know, I 201 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 1: thought about Smith from East Carolina. I just wanted to 202 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:37,320 Speaker 1: go with an offensive tackle. Forsyth is another guy from 203 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:40,200 Speaker 1: Florida that's a big guy. I just kind of went 204 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:43,680 Speaker 1: on the thought that maybe here's a guy that's really 205 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 1: kind of young. I mean when you talk about where 206 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 1: where he's come from, you know, I was looking forward, 207 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 1: the guy that's got the traits that could grow and 208 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 1: can develop and stuff like that. Maybe some of these 209 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 1: offensive line and Smith from East Carolina is could have 210 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:00,679 Speaker 1: been one of those guys, but a little bit of 211 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 1: a lighter guy, you know. I just wanted to grab 212 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:08,839 Speaker 1: that that developmental offensive tackle at that spot and then 213 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 1: hope that like, Okay, maybe you can work with him. 214 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 1: You put strength on him, and then he kind of 215 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:18,199 Speaker 1: he doesn't have to play initially, but with the Cowboys, 216 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 1: you never know, he might get thrown in in week three, 217 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 1: you know. But I just liked with Redunds. I just 218 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:27,440 Speaker 1: liked the makeup of him, and I like how he 219 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 1: handled himself, you know, and all the opportunities that he got. Dan, 220 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 1: what are your thoughts on the North Dakota State tackle? 221 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 1: You know, I wasn't thrilled with him on tape. I 222 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 1: gave him a fourth round grade just based off of 223 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 1: the tape. I thought there were some balance issues, you know, 224 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:49,320 Speaker 1: some some play strength issues, but he swayed me at 225 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:52,320 Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl watching him during practice, I thought he 226 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 1: did a really nice job and I gave him a 227 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 1: little bit of bump in my rankings and just just 228 00:11:57,520 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 1: based off of those what he did and seeing him 229 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 1: a person, seeing him move, the mirroring skills I thought 230 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 1: were really good, and so what Dylan Raidens was able 231 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:07,959 Speaker 1: to do, I bumped him up to seventy four overall 232 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 1: on my board. I still a little worried about just 233 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:13,560 Speaker 1: how overaggressive he can be and how that leads to 234 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:17,080 Speaker 1: some balance issues. But I think he's instinctive. I love 235 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 1: the demeanor that he plays with. He's really it has 236 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:23,319 Speaker 1: that nasty temperament that you want. He'll get after it 237 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 1: in the run game. There's no question about that thirty 238 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 1: four inch arms. But I know some teams even view 239 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 1: him as a better guard at the next level, which 240 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 1: I think is debatable. So but I do think that 241 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 1: you know you're trying him a tackle, and you know 242 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 1: a guy that might give you some versatility. So we 243 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 1: took him at seventy five, so yeah, right around where 244 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 1: I have him too, So I think it makes sense 245 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 1: there are going to be some tackles in that third round, 246 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:51,200 Speaker 1: fourth round that at least could be developmental. I like 247 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:54,559 Speaker 1: Radunds too, brought us. I'm right there with you. He's 248 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:57,679 Speaker 1: my fifth offensive tackle or excuse me, sixth offensive tackle 249 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 1: on the board behind Tevin Jing. But there's a I 250 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:03,200 Speaker 1: mean there's a massive gap between those two guys, and 251 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 1: I think Redunds is one of those that could fall 252 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:07,959 Speaker 1: and be one of the developmental pieces. We've got Bucky 253 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:10,959 Speaker 1: Brooks as a part of the show. Now, Bucky, welcome in. 254 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:13,560 Speaker 1: Glad you're able to join us seven days before the 255 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:16,079 Speaker 1: NFL Draft. Are you excited? I can see the smile 256 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:20,080 Speaker 1: on your face. You have that nervous wave though, Well, 257 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:22,440 Speaker 1: I'm exciting until I look over and I see Brian 258 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 1: brought us, who is in full draft mode because right 259 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 1: now everything is negative Nancy like he's shaking his head. 260 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:30,719 Speaker 1: He's not necessarily happy. He wants to figure out a 261 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 1: way because he doesn't feel like he has enough picks 262 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 1: to get the thing done. So that that's what I'm doing. 263 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:37,840 Speaker 1: I'm over here looking at Brian brought us because I 264 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 1: am one that I would just trade array. I think 265 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 1: we can get it done with five picks. We don't 266 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 1: need all these picks that Brian is over here hoarding. Well, 267 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, you know, what if you wouldn't 268 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 1: spend so much time on TV, you know, you figure 269 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 1: out how to use all those picks. You know, we 270 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:54,319 Speaker 1: don't need all these picks, all those extra picks that 271 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 1: you're accumulating. You just hoarding them all. Hey, I worked 272 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:02,079 Speaker 1: hard to get these picks, man. I had to give 273 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 1: up some players to get these extra picks, so you know, hey, 274 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 1: I'll do what I have to do. I love it now, Briant. Okay, guys, 275 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 1: Brian a question, right question with his mock. Uh did J. C. 276 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 1: Horne come into consideration at all for you at number ten? 277 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 1: It's interesting you look at the betting odds of who's 278 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 1: gonna be the first defended drafted, and Certain is the 279 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 1: clear favorite. Quitty pays right behind him, and then Horn 280 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 1: is an interesting one. Could could you can see? Is 281 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 1: it possible that the Cowboys would uh prefer Horn over Certain? 282 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 1: Do you think that's a possibility for this team? Yeah, 283 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 1: you know, and I do, And I went I went 284 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 1: to safe route, is what I did because of the 285 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 1: ten pick me. Personally, I'd love for them to pick Horn. 286 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 1: I wish I had the guts to just pick Horn 287 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 1: for them. I think there's a there's a genuine relationship 288 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 1: between Dan Quinn and Will must Champ, and I think 289 00:14:57,560 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 1: they're going to know everything in the book about JC 290 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 1: Horn and what he brings, and everybody will tell you though, 291 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 1: well he holds, he does this, he does that. I'll 292 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 1: tell you what though, I have him above Certan. I 293 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 1: just kind of feel like that the Cowboys, when you 294 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 1: and knowing those guys for that particular pick, they're going 295 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 1: to try and get the steadiest player there. They might 296 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 1: not try and hit the home the home run would 297 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 1: be if Pitts was there. You know, that would be 298 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 1: the home run for them. Take Pitts, move on, We've got, 299 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 1: like Bucky was saying, you've got all these other picks, 300 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 1: you'll figure out what defensive players. Me personally, I would 301 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 1: have taken Horn if it was me. But I think 302 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 1: for them and trying to pick what they were going 303 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 1: to do, I felt like that they were going to 304 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 1: go the safer, the surer route with that particular pick. Question. Brand, So, 305 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 1: what is the thing with you, Like, what is it 306 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 1: about jac Horne that you like more than Patrick Sertan? 307 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 1: You know, I think it's the To me, Bucky, I'm 308 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 1: always like really edgy players, and I think there's some 309 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 1: edgy this to this guy. I think Sir Tan is 310 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 1: to me, you know, when you watch him play, everything 311 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 1: is it seems like everything is in control, you know, 312 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 1: the pedal, the turn, the play, I mean, everything is conturned. 313 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 1: With Horn, there's a little bit of chaos. But football. 314 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 1: Football is not always a perfect game, and sometimes you 315 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 1: have to have players that have chaos in their life 316 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 1: and chaos the way they play. And I think that's 317 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 1: where I think that's where Horn steps it up for me. 318 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 1: I you know, when when he's covering and and my 319 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 1: top fifty one or top one hundred or top three hundred, 320 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 1: whatever you want to say, Pits is my second best 321 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 1: player on that board, and I'm watching Horn cover Pits 322 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 1: and Pits is looking at him like get off me, 323 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 1: you know that kind of thing, like he's He's like, 324 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 1: get away from me, you know. And that when I 325 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 1: was watching that, I'm thinking, this kid gets it, this 326 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 1: kid gets it. And again I want that guy. I 327 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:09,199 Speaker 1: want that type of player. But I just think that 328 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:13,359 Speaker 1: the Cowboys will probably take the safer path than taking 329 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:18,440 Speaker 1: a guy that, again that likes chaos. I think it's 330 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:20,480 Speaker 1: interesting that you talk about like the chaos or whatever. 331 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 1: I will say. I agree with you about the edginess. 332 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 1: I do believe his superpower won the best trace his 333 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 1: competitiveness and his physicality, and in the right environment, it 334 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 1: absolutely could be a tone setter for the the boys 335 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:41,919 Speaker 1: want to get down like that on defense, like I 336 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:44,120 Speaker 1: know Dan Quinn back in the Legion of Boom days, 337 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:46,239 Speaker 1: when you have Richard Sherman and Earl Thomas and all 338 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 1: those guys, it's a collection of edgy guys. And so 339 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 1: it does he want to be a zookeeper again where 340 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:54,880 Speaker 1: he's having to rain those guys in or do they 341 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 1: want to steady eddy players. I think that is what 342 00:17:57,520 --> 00:17:59,639 Speaker 1: is unknown, because I really don't have a sense for 343 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:02,399 Speaker 1: what McCarthy wants the coach of the team to be. 344 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:06,119 Speaker 1: And I think that's a great point because I think 345 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 1: there's a debate right now going on between the scouting 346 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 1: department and the coaching staff across the hall from where 347 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:15,640 Speaker 1: we are. I think the scouting department is looking at 348 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:18,640 Speaker 1: Patrick R. Tan Brian and saying exactly what you just 349 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 1: did and saying that he's in control, he's fundamentally sound, 350 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 1: he's a good player. Overall, you're gonna you know what 351 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:27,120 Speaker 1: you're getting out of Patrick's r Tan. But then you've 352 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 1: got this coaching staff that wants some dogs that wants 353 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:33,240 Speaker 1: some of that mentality. They want that extra edginess to 354 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:36,160 Speaker 1: finally put themselves over the top. Because you could say 355 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 1: the same thing about Certain that you did about Digs 356 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 1: right where it's fundamentally sound, there's a lot to grow on. 357 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 1: He's gonna get burned from time to time, but ultimately 358 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:47,680 Speaker 1: he's a good player. He's got a high floor, whereas 359 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 1: jac Horne is a different beast and it's a different 360 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:52,879 Speaker 1: player just like that. And I don't know if you 361 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:55,680 Speaker 1: necessarily agree with that sentiment, but I feel like that's 362 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:58,360 Speaker 1: probably the debate that's going on across the hall from here. 363 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 1: You know, there's there's yeah, there's certain, there's certain. There's 364 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 1: certain scouts over there that they're like me, They're like, 365 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 1: give me this guy that's super competitive and all that, 366 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:17,240 Speaker 1: you know, And I think you have to wonder a 367 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:20,640 Speaker 1: little bit about Certan. Is he going Is he what 368 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 1: he is as we watch him and evaluate him, which 369 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:26,480 Speaker 1: is a really is a good player. But is he 370 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:28,919 Speaker 1: at that level where he's going to be? Is he 371 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:32,119 Speaker 1: going to get better? You know? Or is you know, 372 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 1: we're seeing the finished product at Alabama that's playing in 373 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:39,360 Speaker 1: national championship games and playoff games and win in sec titles. 374 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:42,679 Speaker 1: There's nothing wrong with that. But I think with Horn 375 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 1: there's a little bit of that intrigue that like, man, 376 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:49,439 Speaker 1: you could go get you a guy that could be 377 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 1: one of the top guys for a while, just because 378 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 1: of the the edginess and that and that kind of 379 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:57,639 Speaker 1: that demeanor that he has that you know he gets 380 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 1: mad when you catch the ball on him. I mean, 381 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 1: he you could tell he gets mad him give me 382 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 1: that guy. I kind of liked that, But again, I 383 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:08,720 Speaker 1: think the Cowboys should go in another way. Yeah. Well, 384 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:11,119 Speaker 1: and the other thing too is and I mentioned this before, 385 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:14,680 Speaker 1: but the South Carolina coaches just that they rave about 386 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 1: since the day he showed up as a true freshman, 387 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:19,160 Speaker 1: how he was part of the culture should not even 388 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 1: part of it. He was leading the culture change there. Um. 389 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:24,199 Speaker 1: And he's not as brash as his dad. He's not 390 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 1: gonna pull a cell phone out of his sock. But 391 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 1: he is not afraid to speak up. He is not 392 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 1: afraid to be the loudest voice in the room when 393 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 1: he needs to be. He's not gonna go out of 394 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:35,680 Speaker 1: his way. It's not you know, it's not forced. Um, 395 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:37,679 Speaker 1: you know, but he is not afraid to speak up. 396 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 1: It'd be a part of being the difference. And I 397 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:42,679 Speaker 1: think that's that's something that's going to factor in when 398 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 1: you talk about these corners as well. Uh, if if 399 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 1: Farley was if Farley wasn't dealing with the back issue 400 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:53,239 Speaker 1: brought us, how would you rank those three? Like, how 401 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:58,920 Speaker 1: would you have those three in order? Horn certant and 402 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 1: what I've what I've gathered a little bit, Guys, if 403 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 1: I could help you here is people believe that Farley 404 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:09,440 Speaker 1: can rehab his back. They are worried about longevity questions there. 405 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 1: But I'll say this, I was on a staff that 406 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:16,400 Speaker 1: didn't draft Larry Allen because they fail. We failed him 407 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 1: on a rotator cup on her shoulder project. I was 408 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 1: on it. I was on I drafted and again I 409 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 1: don't mean I, but in Philadelphia we drafted Jeremiah Trotter. 410 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:29,199 Speaker 1: I had a doctor tell me, I don't know if 411 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:31,679 Speaker 1: he's going to play ten games for ten years. I 412 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 1: think he played thirteen years is what he did. So 413 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 1: again I'm not saying scout should put dr period in 414 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 1: front of their name, but somebody in the organization. I'll 415 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:45,920 Speaker 1: give another example. Sean Rogers was a player at the 416 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:48,960 Speaker 1: University of Texas was a defensive tackle second round pick 417 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:52,159 Speaker 1: by the Detroit Lions. I'll never forget Jerry Jones in 418 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 1: that meeting going to Jim Mauer, the trainer. It goes, 419 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:57,959 Speaker 1: tell me why I can't draft this guy again? Please 420 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 1: tell me why I can't draft this guy again. So 421 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 1: these doctors, these trainers, they're giving you their best view 422 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:07,440 Speaker 1: on these guys. You know, we'll see maybe this kid 423 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 1: doesn't doesn't have another problem, or maybe he's got a 424 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:13,960 Speaker 1: chronic back issue. Though that's the sad thing that's going 425 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:15,959 Speaker 1: on right now that we're trying to figure out as 426 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 1: we go forward here. All right, we've got about five 427 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 1: minutes to hit this next mock draft. Who wants to 428 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 1: go next? Bucky Dane who has their seven round Cowboys 429 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:30,360 Speaker 1: mock ready to roll. I mean I can talk about 430 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:35,120 Speaker 1: it either way for him. I mean, like, okay, so, 431 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:43,199 Speaker 1: being a big school snob that I am, uh, you 432 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:46,159 Speaker 1: won't see many you won't hear many directional schools or 433 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:49,119 Speaker 1: anything like that, No far out things or whatever like. 434 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 1: So I'm thinking I'm thinking at ten, we're gonna go 435 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 1: Patrick's ten with Alabama. I've seen a lot of baseball 436 00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 1: games one, when you just hit singles and doubles, you 437 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 1: don't always have to hit it to park to win games. 438 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 1: At forty four, I'm going with Carlos boogie bashing because 439 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be sitting there like a blinking light. 440 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:10,880 Speaker 1: I like his athleticism, his urgency, and versatility. I think 441 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 1: he has a chance to be a really, really good player. 442 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 1: Seventy five, I'm gonna get us a playmaker at the 443 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 1: second level. How about Chace a Rod from North Carolina. 444 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 1: Not talked about enough. He is someone because I go 445 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:25,399 Speaker 1: back and I think about the Cowboys taking Bruce Carter. 446 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:28,359 Speaker 1: The Chace a Rod has more athleticism, is a more 447 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:31,720 Speaker 1: dynamic player than Bruce Carter was at that time. It's 448 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 1: funny in the third round at ninety nine, you guys 449 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:36,440 Speaker 1: talked about the guy that I have circled that I 450 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 1: think would be a great fit, and that's Deonta Smith 451 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:43,479 Speaker 1: from East Carolina. I'm just thinking inside, trying to prepare 452 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:45,800 Speaker 1: for the future. When you have Connor Williams who could 453 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:50,160 Speaker 1: depart after next year, that could be a fit. I'm 454 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:52,719 Speaker 1: thinking in the fourth round, and it's funny because this 455 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 1: guy has some buzz when we were coming out of 456 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:56,399 Speaker 1: the senior bolting, but he's kind of falling down the 457 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:59,400 Speaker 1: ranks a little bit. If James Huston is somewhere there 458 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:01,719 Speaker 1: for whatever reason, I think you have to take an 459 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 1: offensive tackle. His athleticism as a one year player coming 460 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 1: out of Michigan, to me intrigues me. So I'm all 461 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:12,639 Speaker 1: about him at the fourth round if he's available. I 462 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 1: think this is going to make Brian brod Is spit 463 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:16,400 Speaker 1: up in his mouth when I say this, but I'm 464 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:20,879 Speaker 1: okay with it. In the fourth round. Sean Wade, Sean 465 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:24,639 Speaker 1: Wade intrigues me, not only as a nickel corner, but 466 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:27,399 Speaker 1: potentially as a safety. And when I think about what 467 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:30,840 Speaker 1: Dan Quinn was able to do with Demante Kazi coming 468 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 1: out of San Diego State, a guy who had like 469 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:35,639 Speaker 1: seventeen or eighteen interceptions, he ended up putting him as 470 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 1: a center field player. Maybe Sean Wade is a pick 471 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 1: is a flyer at that point in the fifth round. 472 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:45,440 Speaker 1: If I don't like Sean Wade as that transition guy, 473 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:48,640 Speaker 1: I double up because Andre Cisco coming off to ACL 474 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 1: is there. When you think about guys who get their 475 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:54,399 Speaker 1: hands on the ball, they always get their hands on 476 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 1: the balls in the pros man thirteen interceptions in twenty 477 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 1: fourth career games. That's remarkable wol production. I'm going that 478 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 1: sixth round. I'm thinking Kaye Johnson wide receiver, just in 479 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 1: case we don't know what we're gonna get with Michael 480 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 1: Gallup after this year. Maybe kay Johnson can slip in. 481 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 1: And I forgot to talk about moving up and down, 482 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:19,119 Speaker 1: but I gave away some of those picks that you 483 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 1: worry about in the seventh round because I want to 484 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 1: make sure that I got those guys on my list. 485 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:25,439 Speaker 1: So that's what I got for You brought us. You 486 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 1: can have bad because I know you would have added 487 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:29,359 Speaker 1: like eight or nine more seventh round picks because you 488 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:32,679 Speaker 1: covered those at the bottom. I do thank you for mentioning. 489 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 1: You know what, I'll say this, Bucky, I honestly don't 490 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 1: have a problem with what you just did. And I 491 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 1: like your explanation of Wade. I really do. This is 492 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:45,360 Speaker 1: a league where you got to put guys on the 493 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:48,879 Speaker 1: field that can cover Some of his most productive days 494 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,440 Speaker 1: were played in the slot. You just got to find 495 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:53,720 Speaker 1: a way to reach the kid right there. And I 496 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:57,640 Speaker 1: like what you said about the transition from corner to safety. 497 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,640 Speaker 1: We saw with Kaze out of San Diego State back 498 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,720 Speaker 1: in the day. And I'll tell you what, man, this 499 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 1: was a guy that I know, if you follow Dane 500 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:09,440 Speaker 1: Burglar like we all do, Dane initially had a guy 501 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 1: like Wade is one of the top corners, and then 502 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 1: things happened along the way. But I like what you 503 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 1: did with that. I the Sharat pick at three, though, 504 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:24,359 Speaker 1: that one, that was the one that bothered me a 505 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 1: little bit, you know, because I don't know if I'm 506 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:31,400 Speaker 1: working on a conversion right there. You know, a former quarterback, 507 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 1: you know, athlete. I get it and all that stuff. 508 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 1: But if I'm if I'm gonna do something like that, 509 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:41,360 Speaker 1: I'm probably gonna do it in the fourth or fifth round. 510 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 1: I'm probably not gonna do it in the third like 511 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:45,880 Speaker 1: you did. But I don't have a problem other than 512 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 1: that with what you did. The only reason, the only 513 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:51,119 Speaker 1: reason I think Sarat would be more valued in the 514 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 1: Cowboys draft room than others is because when you look 515 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:56,720 Speaker 1: at DQ and the guys that he took, like Dionne 516 00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 1: Jones was a guy that I don't know if people 517 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:02,639 Speaker 1: necessarily thought would be that run around, second level playmaker 518 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 1: or whatever, there's other guys. I think they took Duke 519 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,760 Speaker 1: Riley at the Falcons two for a minute, trying to 520 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:11,840 Speaker 1: find that undersized guy that is kind of like that 521 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 1: hybrid nickel player I think for sir rot and annoying 522 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 1: those within the program talking about the transition or whatever, 523 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:23,119 Speaker 1: like this is a dude who in high school was 524 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:25,640 Speaker 1: like a three sports star, like he and his brother 525 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:27,879 Speaker 1: could do anything they wanted to do. And so you 526 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 1: talk about making the unique move from quarterback to linebacker. 527 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 1: One speaks to your mentality because most quarterbacks don't say, hey, 528 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:36,159 Speaker 1: you know what I want to do. I want to 529 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:38,640 Speaker 1: go where it's the noisiest and that's where I want 530 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 1: to go play. And I just think in a defense 531 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:43,240 Speaker 1: where he could be covered up a little bit with 532 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 1: bodies up front and they're looking for a guy that 533 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:49,080 Speaker 1: can run and chase athletically, he could get on the field, 534 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:53,400 Speaker 1: and as they're currently constructed, I could see his ability 535 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:57,440 Speaker 1: to move around and cover could make Jalen Smith get 536 00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:01,120 Speaker 1: off the field. Although it's obvious passing that like looking 537 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 1: for your true nickel linebacker. I mean, I know you 538 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 1: hate directional schools and stuff, but you should have looked 539 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 1: at the kid Malone from Western Kentucky. That's the type 540 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:14,880 Speaker 1: of guy that's a freakish, relentless athlete. Did they play 541 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,960 Speaker 1: I wouldn't. Did they play on Saturdays or Fridays? Because 542 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 1: I only watched, only watched college football on Saturdays. I 543 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 1: just remember that Walter Payton went to school I believe 544 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:27,680 Speaker 1: in Jackson State, Jerry Rice in Mississippi Valley, I think 545 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:31,400 Speaker 1: is where he went. I'm trying to think. I'm trying 546 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:33,879 Speaker 1: to think of some more Hall of Fame type guys 547 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,160 Speaker 1: that went to schools that Bucky that you didn't want 548 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 1: to go didn't you didn't that you didn't want to 549 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 1: go to I'm just some would have told me that 550 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 1: Ron told me, Hey, there's no question shot at the big, 551 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 1: big applying store. Don't go around to the mom and pops. 552 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:52,000 Speaker 1: What Ron Wolfe would tell you, And you know this 553 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 1: more better than most. If you're from one of these places, 554 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:57,480 Speaker 1: you better walk on water. That's what Ron would say. 555 00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:00,080 Speaker 1: You better be a guy that walks on water. In 556 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 1: small visions of Tadpole running in my m how about 557 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,959 Speaker 1: how about Cameron mccron. How about mccron from Michigan. Then 558 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 1: how about Okay Dane m wrong about mcgron, the linebacker 559 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:15,800 Speaker 1: from Michigan. Yes, as long as the knees. Okay, speed 560 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,320 Speaker 1: is the name of his game. He's quick. He his 561 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 1: reactive quickness is outstanding. As long as the knee checks out. Yeah, 562 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:25,239 Speaker 1: I think that you're getting good value. I don't know 563 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 1: about the third, but fourth, fifth, Yeah, that's uh, that's 564 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 1: actually why I have in my mock going to the Cowboys. Wow. 565 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 1: There you go. Wow, Hey, Brian read Dane's mind. How 566 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 1: about that. I love this conversation, except for whenever Bucky 567 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 1: was taking shots at the conference to say that's the school. 568 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 1: I mean, that's my conference. That's conference. I had to 569 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 1: take a shot at conference. He took a shot at Lestern, Kentucky. Yes, 570 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:53,000 Speaker 1: that's conference, saying if they're playing on Fridays, Hey, Bucky, 571 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 1: because it comes to games on Friday nights, you could 572 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 1: have taken You could have taken one of those North 573 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 1: Carolina you get to taken with those North Carolina running 574 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:05,160 Speaker 1: backs to get you with Carolina guy in you know, 575 00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:10,520 Speaker 1: don't don't feel bad, it's okay. I passed. I passed 576 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:13,600 Speaker 1: on Das Knew, so I didn't take daw L. They 577 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:16,760 Speaker 1: could double up. I can make fun of what you 578 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:19,960 Speaker 1: just said so much, But the only ESPN game that 579 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,960 Speaker 1: I've called for like a football game was a Conference 580 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 1: USA game, and guess what it was on a Friday night. 581 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 1: So I guess I can't really say a whole lot. 582 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:30,000 Speaker 1: Let's go ahead and take our first break when we 583 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,959 Speaker 1: come back. We're gonna hit some Twitter on the twenty questions, 584 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:35,720 Speaker 1: We'll get the Danes ten or I guess ten picks 585 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:38,640 Speaker 1: seven round mock Nate Newton walking by the studio at 586 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 1: the moment. But we're gonna take our first break when 587 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:42,480 Speaker 1: we come back, Twitter on the twenty. 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So glad you're with us week 619 00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:00,960 Speaker 1: at Brian brought us name Bruglar Key Brooks, I'm Kyle 620 00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:04,320 Speaker 1: Yeoman's and well, gentlemen, it's time now for some Twitter 621 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 1: on the twenty Twitter on the Twitter Chris Beam as 622 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 1: always doing fantastic work in the back and well, I 623 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:15,040 Speaker 1: do want to give a quick shout out for all 624 00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:18,920 Speaker 1: of the fans that put Twitter questions up On Tuesday. 625 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,360 Speaker 1: We did an entire show full of Twitter on the 626 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:23,760 Speaker 1: twenty questions and it was a lot of fun. Got 627 00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:26,800 Speaker 1: to a ton of them. But I want to ask 628 00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:29,040 Speaker 1: this question because I feel like we've we've gone back 629 00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:31,719 Speaker 1: and forth on this and why is this has kind 630 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 1: of been one of those debates that have been raging 631 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:38,600 Speaker 1: amongst Cowboys Nation. But Cowboys Underscore Braves on Twitter. That's 632 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:40,800 Speaker 1: the Twitter handle, So I guess they're big Atlanta and 633 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,360 Speaker 1: Dallas fan at the same time. Why do you think 634 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:47,320 Speaker 1: Micah Parsons would be a bad pick at pick number ten? 635 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:51,320 Speaker 1: What are his knocks? He seems like a complete linebacker. 636 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:54,960 Speaker 1: We've talked about a lot of Micah Parsons, but Bucky. 637 00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:58,280 Speaker 1: Why would he not be the ideal pick at pick 638 00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:02,640 Speaker 1: number ten or why could he be? I actually think 639 00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:04,960 Speaker 1: he would be the ideal pick. I think if you 640 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:07,280 Speaker 1: look at a second level of shop wrecker, I think 641 00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:11,600 Speaker 1: he can do that. I know I'm a little impacted 642 00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:14,080 Speaker 1: by my interactions with him as a high school and 643 00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:15,839 Speaker 1: going up and continue to talk to him or whatever, 644 00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:17,480 Speaker 1: but I will say this about him as a player, 645 00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:21,600 Speaker 1: unique combination of strength, power and explosiveness. Probably the best 646 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:23,759 Speaker 1: blitzer that I've seen, and sometimes in terms of his 647 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,680 Speaker 1: ability to get from point A to point B in 648 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:30,680 Speaker 1: a hurry and he's completely disrupted. Now. I think if 649 00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:34,120 Speaker 1: your locker room has enough maturity around it where he 650 00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:36,839 Speaker 1: doesn't necessarily have to step into the leadership role, I 651 00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:40,760 Speaker 1: think he will thrive in that environment. But if you're tasked, 652 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,439 Speaker 1: if you're asking him to be the leader to point 653 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:45,359 Speaker 1: on the sword, I don't know if he's ready for that, 654 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:47,279 Speaker 1: even though his game suggests he could be an all 655 00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:50,680 Speaker 1: star player. Yeah, I think Bucky's absolutely right. And the 656 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:54,520 Speaker 1: more old Krusty's like Bucky that I talked to around 657 00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:58,000 Speaker 1: the league. People are starting to feel more comfortable with 658 00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:01,880 Speaker 1: the player. And what's happened is the player is starting 659 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:05,160 Speaker 1: to admit as a young man that he had some 660 00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:10,480 Speaker 1: maturity issues. And Bucky's right about we could all watch 661 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:14,080 Speaker 1: the tape and see what he brings as a player. 662 00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:17,440 Speaker 1: The questions we're going to be about the maturity and 663 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:20,440 Speaker 1: then okay, what happened with the hazing thing? You know, 664 00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:23,640 Speaker 1: those were the things. But it appears that scouts are 665 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:26,719 Speaker 1: far more comfortable with the player now. I know that 666 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,719 Speaker 1: we talked about him initially as a guy in the 667 00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:32,600 Speaker 1: top ten and then he fell out of all that, 668 00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:36,120 Speaker 1: but yeah, we're starting to starting to see him in 669 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:39,520 Speaker 1: that mode. I think Bucky's absolutely right. If they don't 670 00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:42,480 Speaker 1: take a cornerback at ten and they're taking a defensive player, 671 00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:45,800 Speaker 1: this kid could be could very well be the pick 672 00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:50,120 Speaker 1: because they're feeling more comfortable with him. Yeah, I don't 673 00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:52,759 Speaker 1: think that. I don't agree with anybody that's had to 674 00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:55,480 Speaker 1: be a bad pick. I think it's fair to call 675 00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:58,840 Speaker 1: it a risky pick. I think that's fair when you 676 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,200 Speaker 1: factor in everything. You know the background, so there's a 677 00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:04,839 Speaker 1: decision making because you know, Michael Parsons could be your 678 00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:08,120 Speaker 1: you know, typical twenty twenty one year old who you know, 679 00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:10,400 Speaker 1: just like I'm sure all of us made some immature 680 00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:12,799 Speaker 1: decisions in the past but grew out of it and 681 00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:16,839 Speaker 1: became responsible adults. He could absolutely take that pack, or 682 00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:20,080 Speaker 1: could be something like some other guys who are immature 683 00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:22,680 Speaker 1: in their youth and never really grow out of that. 684 00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:24,879 Speaker 1: You know. There's just there's no crystal ball here, and 685 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:27,239 Speaker 1: I think some teams will be more comfortable with him 686 00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:30,080 Speaker 1: than others. I think you look at the Lions at seven, 687 00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:33,040 Speaker 1: That's that's where I think you start to consider Michael 688 00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:36,319 Speaker 1: Persons as a possibility. Um. But you know, there's too 689 00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:38,080 Speaker 1: much talent there, you know, like you guys are saying, 690 00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:41,959 Speaker 1: there's the talent. Wise, I don't understand, you know, why 691 00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:44,160 Speaker 1: he's a top ten talent in this class. I think 692 00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:47,880 Speaker 1: I'm very confused by a lot of people who are 693 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:51,040 Speaker 1: not on board with just the talent the football player. 694 00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:53,520 Speaker 1: I get the off field concerns, the risk, but on 695 00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:56,880 Speaker 1: the field there's a lot going for him. You guys 696 00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:58,680 Speaker 1: said it better than I could have even put it. 697 00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:01,279 Speaker 1: But it's not a bad pick. It's just not to 698 00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:03,160 Speaker 1: pick that we want or not to pick that we're 699 00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,799 Speaker 1: excited about it. And I've had this conversation on other 700 00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:08,279 Speaker 1: shows that I've been on as well about I really 701 00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:11,480 Speaker 1: like Michael Parsons. He's still my top linebacker on my board. 702 00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:14,000 Speaker 1: I like him as a player. There's just concerns and 703 00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:17,680 Speaker 1: question marks around him specifically either on the field and 704 00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:20,760 Speaker 1: off the field, that have me concerned going into the draft. 705 00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,560 Speaker 1: Whereas other guys like a JC Hornpatricks or Tan those 706 00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:27,680 Speaker 1: question marks just aren't as high. And that's basically what 707 00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:31,040 Speaker 1: I think about Michael Parsons. Okay, this question I really 708 00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:34,200 Speaker 1: intrigued me. And this comes from Clay Slocum on Twitter 709 00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:37,160 Speaker 1: and he says, as scouts, how much time do you 710 00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:42,560 Speaker 1: spend reviewing past draft notes, so other draft notes from 711 00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:46,360 Speaker 1: other drafts? Do you do you ever find patterns that 712 00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:50,359 Speaker 1: you may be getting right or wrong in your analysis 713 00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:55,960 Speaker 1: of those past notes? Brian, Yeah. The thing you have 714 00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:58,279 Speaker 1: to know if if you work for the Dallas Cowboys 715 00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:01,120 Speaker 1: is you have a general manager. It's not a traditional 716 00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:04,279 Speaker 1: general manager when it comes to going out and evaluating 717 00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:08,040 Speaker 1: players like you could play a game on Sunday on Monday. 718 00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:11,640 Speaker 1: A lot of general managers review the tape on Tuesday, 719 00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:14,200 Speaker 1: they're on the road scouting. So what you have to 720 00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:17,319 Speaker 1: do is you have to be able to explain to 721 00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:20,560 Speaker 1: a guy like Jerry Jones who he's looking at when 722 00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:25,040 Speaker 1: you compare another player somebody maybe was two, three, four 723 00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:29,720 Speaker 1: years ago, that he understands that he's playing in the league. 724 00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:32,840 Speaker 1: So you find yourself a lot of time working for 725 00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:37,359 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys coming up with guys that you previously 726 00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:40,880 Speaker 1: saw in order to help him along. I reviewed draft 727 00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:43,520 Speaker 1: notes all the time. I'm so interested in what I 728 00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:47,240 Speaker 1: thought of a particular player, and so yeah, it's something 729 00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:49,560 Speaker 1: that that's the only way you get better because you 730 00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:52,480 Speaker 1: want to be able to say, oh, this player reminds 731 00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:56,919 Speaker 1: me of this guy that I saw. Well, you brand 732 00:38:56,960 --> 00:39:00,880 Speaker 1: up most important trait for an evaluator, the ability to 733 00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:04,360 Speaker 1: be a self evaluator. You have to understand what you 734 00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:06,680 Speaker 1: missed on what you got right. I think that helps 735 00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:10,920 Speaker 1: you grow as as a scout to understand, Okay, I 736 00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:13,160 Speaker 1: missed this about because you're going to miss that. That's 737 00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:15,919 Speaker 1: part of It's almost like you know, you're a hitter 738 00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:18,680 Speaker 1: in baseball, You're going to you know, get out if 739 00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:20,960 Speaker 1: you get on base four out of ten times you're 740 00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:22,560 Speaker 1: doing a heck of a job, and so with an 741 00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:25,120 Speaker 1: evaluator it's not quite the same. But you know you're 742 00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:26,680 Speaker 1: going to miss on some of these players, and it's 743 00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:29,319 Speaker 1: important to understand why did we miss Is it something 744 00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:32,000 Speaker 1: I missed on tape? Is it maybe I was valuing 745 00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:34,879 Speaker 1: a trait more so than I should have. And so 746 00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:37,880 Speaker 1: each position is a puzzle. And as the game evolves, 747 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:39,920 Speaker 1: so does you're scouting, and so the ability to be 748 00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:43,759 Speaker 1: a self evaluator is critical for every single scout out 749 00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:47,480 Speaker 1: there to understand their strengths and weaknesses as they scout 750 00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:49,799 Speaker 1: this game. You know, I love where both of you 751 00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:52,520 Speaker 1: guys mentioned. I think, Brian, you bring up something that 752 00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:56,280 Speaker 1: I think is maybe missed you sometimes on ours part, 753 00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:59,960 Speaker 1: and that's the comparisons. I think people fans get annoyed 754 00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:02,960 Speaker 1: by comparisons. Players get annoyed. But what we're trying to 755 00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:06,440 Speaker 1: do is paint a picture for the coach, for the 756 00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:10,319 Speaker 1: general manager. This is who this player could be, This 757 00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:12,920 Speaker 1: is who he reminds me of. This is maybe a 758 00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:15,680 Speaker 1: starting point or an ending point in terms of where 759 00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:19,240 Speaker 1: he could evolve and get to. And dame your point 760 00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:23,960 Speaker 1: about being able to self assess be self critical, and 761 00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:28,000 Speaker 1: then continue to expand your horizon as an evaluator, the 762 00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:30,960 Speaker 1: game has constantly changed. If you could have told me 763 00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:34,160 Speaker 1: ten years ago that a Lamar Jackson would be at 764 00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:37,839 Speaker 1: MVP level quarterback or that Josh Allen could go from 765 00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:41,560 Speaker 1: his struggles at Wyoming to being a high end quarterback, 766 00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:44,359 Speaker 1: I never would have believed you because we had never 767 00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:47,200 Speaker 1: seen anybody do those things at the position that Lamar 768 00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:51,120 Speaker 1: Jackson and Josh Allen have done and have success. And 769 00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:53,840 Speaker 1: so now as an evaluator, you have to be able 770 00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:58,000 Speaker 1: to evolve as you are evaluating the position, and I 771 00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:03,400 Speaker 1: think the great evaluators always able to admit, Hey, I 772 00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:06,040 Speaker 1: didn't used to think about it this way, but now 773 00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:08,319 Speaker 1: I have to think about it in a different way 774 00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:11,400 Speaker 1: because I'm seeing guys have success in the league. And 775 00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:14,240 Speaker 1: so I can either stay back here in the nineties 776 00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:16,560 Speaker 1: or I can move up to the twenty twenties and 777 00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:19,160 Speaker 1: say that the game is different, and the athletes playing 778 00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:22,000 Speaker 1: the game successfully are also different, and I need to 779 00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:25,839 Speaker 1: greet accordingly. Yeah, Bucky's absolutely right about that. Like you know, 780 00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,960 Speaker 1: twenty years ago, when when sat In drafted hims, you 781 00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:32,120 Speaker 1: would have never believed that a guy like Kyler Murray 782 00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:35,560 Speaker 1: was going to go first. Overall, he just wasn't gonna happen. 783 00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:37,760 Speaker 1: You know. I mean that there were so many things 784 00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:41,480 Speaker 1: that were against certain types of players, whether it's the 785 00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:44,400 Speaker 1: measurables whatever, But yeah, I mean you have to be 786 00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:48,200 Speaker 1: able to evolve as the game, as the processes have 787 00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:52,560 Speaker 1: evolved as well. Kind of sticking along the lines of 788 00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:54,920 Speaker 1: the linebacker talk that we had and then what Bucky 789 00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:58,120 Speaker 1: just said a moment ago about how different prospects are 790 00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:00,880 Speaker 1: kind of the that's all rage right now in the 791 00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:05,000 Speaker 1: twenty twenties, Zaven Collins, this is a question from Cowboys 792 00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:08,120 Speaker 1: Coffee talk. Dane mentioned Cowboys interest in the past. Is 793 00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:11,440 Speaker 1: there any indication if they see him as a sam 794 00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:14,840 Speaker 1: linebacker or maybe purely as an edge. He asked this 795 00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:18,360 Speaker 1: question because he has reserves about the twenty or excuse me, 796 00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:23,279 Speaker 1: two hundred and seventy pound linebacker himself. Dane, Cowboys interest there, 797 00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:27,680 Speaker 1: But where would they put him? Well, that's the question, 798 00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:31,880 Speaker 1: what's the fit? And really really interesting. Albert Breer tweeted 799 00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:35,960 Speaker 1: yesterday that when Zaven Collins went for his medicals in Indianapolis, 800 00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:39,240 Speaker 1: weighed in at two hundred and seventy pounds. That is fascinated. 801 00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:45,560 Speaker 1: He was two fifty pro day and seventy pounds. I mean, well, 802 00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:49,160 Speaker 1: and where my thought process goes is, Okay, which team 803 00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:52,080 Speaker 1: told him you're you would be an edge rusher for us, 804 00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:55,160 Speaker 1: you would be a defensive end for us, because why 805 00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:58,040 Speaker 1: else are you putting on eleven pounds? You know, you 806 00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:00,239 Speaker 1: hope it's not a neglect or you know, he he's 807 00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:02,600 Speaker 1: just uh putting the you know, the foot off the 808 00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:05,440 Speaker 1: pedal in terms of his working work, working out. But 809 00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:09,279 Speaker 1: my assumption would be there's a team that said, you know, 810 00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:11,479 Speaker 1: we really like you as an edge rusher, we really 811 00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:13,200 Speaker 1: like you as a guy that's going to be going 812 00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:16,560 Speaker 1: downhill getting after the quarterback, and maybe if you add 813 00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:18,160 Speaker 1: a little bit of weight you can be a better 814 00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:22,480 Speaker 1: banger in terms of stopping the run, setting a hard edge. 815 00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:25,440 Speaker 1: So that's that's a really interesting fit. I don't know 816 00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:27,400 Speaker 1: that he's a fit at two seventy for this team, 817 00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:31,000 Speaker 1: for the Cowboys and this defense the way it's constructed, 818 00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:34,400 Speaker 1: But for a team out there, whether they know the Patriots, 819 00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:36,239 Speaker 1: the Cardinals, one of those teams in the mid first 820 00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:39,600 Speaker 1: first yeah, well yeah, and I'll tell you I'll tell you. 821 00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:42,600 Speaker 1: I'll tell you. Another team the crusties are all talking 822 00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:46,279 Speaker 1: about is the Pittsburgh Steelers. They're talking about, you know, 823 00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:48,920 Speaker 1: with them losing Bud Dupree and stuff like that, that 824 00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:51,880 Speaker 1: maybe the Steelers got involved with this one too. Everybody 825 00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:54,080 Speaker 1: has the Steelers taking kind of a running back maybe, 826 00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:56,880 Speaker 1: but this might be one of those ones that I 827 00:43:57,000 --> 00:44:00,359 Speaker 1: know for a fact with the Cowboys, you cannot take 828 00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:03,359 Speaker 1: a player like this at ten. You can't. There's no 829 00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:05,000 Speaker 1: way you can. They are not going to take a 830 00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:08,000 Speaker 1: sam linebacker at ten. I'm sorry. That's just not gonna 831 00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:10,399 Speaker 1: that's not gonna happen. But there are other teams out 832 00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:13,440 Speaker 1: there that everybody does believe that. Okay, hey, here's some 833 00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:17,120 Speaker 1: three four teams. Again, a lot of scouts talking about 834 00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:20,879 Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steelers. Keep an eye on that team. Yeah, 835 00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:22,840 Speaker 1: it's interested that you bring it up because for the 836 00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:26,560 Speaker 1: Cowboys and the way that we aarticipated them playing at 837 00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:29,400 Speaker 1: a dan Quinn Zavier Collins doesn't really have a position 838 00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:32,399 Speaker 1: because he's kind of like the big, thick linebacker where 839 00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:35,319 Speaker 1: in the draft room we would appreciate him, we would say, hey, 840 00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:37,600 Speaker 1: he's talented, but he's really not a great fit for 841 00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:41,239 Speaker 1: us because where will we put him at? And I 842 00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:43,000 Speaker 1: just don't know, but I think it's interesting you talk 843 00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:44,800 Speaker 1: about a guy showing up at two hundred and seventy 844 00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:50,959 Speaker 1: pounds that screams to me Patriots, Steelers, heavy handed type team, 845 00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:52,400 Speaker 1: somewhere where he can go out there and he can 846 00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:54,200 Speaker 1: kind of beat the slug that beats on the tight 847 00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:56,440 Speaker 1: end and maybe comes off the edge and does some 848 00:44:56,480 --> 00:45:00,640 Speaker 1: of that stuff. So this next question is real intriguing 849 00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:03,040 Speaker 1: to me. It's not necessarily anything to learn about, but 850 00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:06,040 Speaker 1: it's fun to think of because you guys have done 851 00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:09,080 Speaker 1: this for quite some time. What's your favorite draft moment? 852 00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:12,040 Speaker 1: This question just comes from Red straight up. What is 853 00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:14,759 Speaker 1: your favorite draft moment? He said while covering the Cowboys. 854 00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:17,759 Speaker 1: I don't necessarily want to limit either one of you 855 00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:20,880 Speaker 1: three to that question because there's been plenty of drafts 856 00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:23,480 Speaker 1: where you haven't covered the Cowboys, but Bucky will start 857 00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:25,640 Speaker 1: with you. What's your favorite draft moment is where a 858 00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:30,000 Speaker 1: week out from the next one, I will go back 859 00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:31,960 Speaker 1: to when I was working with the Seattle Seahawks. It 860 00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:33,640 Speaker 1: might have been my first or second year, but we 861 00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:38,240 Speaker 1: took Steve Hutchinson at guard and at the time Walter 862 00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:43,040 Speaker 1: Jones was already in place and just watching how you 863 00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:47,080 Speaker 1: can take a dominant guard compare with the dominant offensive tackle, 864 00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:49,759 Speaker 1: and the entire league can know that you're running that 865 00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:52,840 Speaker 1: way and no one can stop it. And so there's 866 00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:56,520 Speaker 1: something too like when you see what we call god 867 00:45:56,600 --> 00:46:00,360 Speaker 1: jacket level players giving them their just due and just 868 00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:03,279 Speaker 1: taking them even though positional value and all that other 869 00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:06,800 Speaker 1: stuff creeps in. I think sometimes we have to remember 870 00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:10,279 Speaker 1: man grade the talent, and if you can add a 871 00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:13,719 Speaker 1: collection of talented players, you can win. You just can't 872 00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:16,359 Speaker 1: go wrong taking the best player available. So we're taking 873 00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:19,440 Speaker 1: Kyle Pitts. That is now confirmed from Bucky Brooks that 874 00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:25,120 Speaker 1: Kyle Pitts will be a Dallas Cowboy. Brian favorite draft moment, yeah, Oh, 875 00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:27,680 Speaker 1: Krusty's got a lot of them, But my favorite one 876 00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:30,560 Speaker 1: was two thousand and five when the Scouts actually won 877 00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:36,400 Speaker 1: against Bill Parcels, and it was it's when he wanted 878 00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:39,680 Speaker 1: nothing to do with the Marcus ware and the Scouts 879 00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:44,480 Speaker 1: were fighting him. He wanted Sean Merriman, And I mean 880 00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:49,680 Speaker 1: it came down to literally a morning of the draft 881 00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:53,040 Speaker 1: when the decision was made. We were we were before 882 00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:57,320 Speaker 1: the meeting before the draft started, Jerry Jones, Stephen Jones, 883 00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:00,280 Speaker 1: and I'll tell you this, Rick Goslin from the Allas 884 00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:03,719 Speaker 1: Morning News, who we all know. Rick Gossin was the 885 00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:07,400 Speaker 1: reason why the Dallas Cowboys drafted DeMarcus Ware because the 886 00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:09,719 Speaker 1: night before the draft he was able to get a 887 00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:13,920 Speaker 1: hold of Jerry Jones. He had this network of scouts 888 00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:16,480 Speaker 1: and general managers they talked to, and he had all 889 00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:20,359 Speaker 1: the information and he convinced Jerry's like, where will be 890 00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:23,879 Speaker 1: a better player long term than Merriman. And but after 891 00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:26,400 Speaker 1: that first year, we were all like, oh my gosh, 892 00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:30,080 Speaker 1: what is Merriman done? Kind of thing. So but then 893 00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:32,799 Speaker 1: if you look at overall how it all turned out though, 894 00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:35,800 Speaker 1: But yeah, that was that was probably my favorite moment 895 00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:38,360 Speaker 1: of a draft when it was it came down to 896 00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:41,680 Speaker 1: the morning of the draft and then the decision was 897 00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:43,160 Speaker 1: made of who we were going to take at the 898 00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:47,400 Speaker 1: eleventh pick, and it worked out great for the Dallas Cowboys. Guys. 899 00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:51,880 Speaker 1: It's a great one, all right, Dane. For me, you know, 900 00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:54,960 Speaker 1: it just goes I think about just starting doing this, 901 00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:57,759 Speaker 1: doing this draft stuff, and I go back to two 902 00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:00,600 Speaker 1: thousand and four, how much how fun that draft was 903 00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:03,480 Speaker 1: when you're talking about the quarterbacks and the intrigue about 904 00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:07,279 Speaker 1: Eli Manning, Philip rivers a lot of teams love Ben 905 00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:11,160 Speaker 1: Roethlisberger in that draft, you know, the uh you know, 906 00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:14,959 Speaker 1: the Giants were looking at him possibly if they weren't 907 00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:19,359 Speaker 1: able to make that trade to get Eli Manning, who 908 00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:20,960 Speaker 1: the Chargers took at number one, they were ready to 909 00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:23,440 Speaker 1: take Roethlisberger at number four. That was the same draft 910 00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:25,840 Speaker 1: with Kellen Winslow and Sean Taylor. I mean, that was 911 00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:28,120 Speaker 1: really one of my first drafts where I was into 912 00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:31,000 Speaker 1: this and you know, scouting these players and getting involved 913 00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:34,400 Speaker 1: and just the the intrigue of that top ten was 914 00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:36,200 Speaker 1: was so much fun and something that'll stick with me 915 00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:39,880 Speaker 1: for a long time. Can ask a question, Kyle Ye 916 00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:42,799 Speaker 1: want to ask Brent? I want I want to ask 917 00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:45,400 Speaker 1: so Brian like thinking about that draft because ed drafts 918 00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:48,520 Speaker 1: is fascinating to me because we had those quarterbacks or whatever. 919 00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:52,040 Speaker 1: So there's this narrative out there about quarterbacks being pushed up. 920 00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:55,440 Speaker 1: I never heard that thing in draft rooms or whatever. 921 00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:58,520 Speaker 1: But I do wonder, Brent, is that A is that 922 00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:01,640 Speaker 1: a valid primus to A If a's a quarterback, he 923 00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:05,080 Speaker 1: deserves more credit or back in the day, during that 924 00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:09,000 Speaker 1: time with Eli Ben and Rivers. Did those guys actually 925 00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:12,920 Speaker 1: merit those grades to be drafted over Sean Taylor and 926 00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:17,200 Speaker 1: those guys. Yeah, that's the problem with the evaluation with 927 00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:21,319 Speaker 1: the quarterbacks. And I'll tell you what though, at Green Bay, 928 00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:25,120 Speaker 1: we did something that was criminal to a quarterback, and 929 00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:29,560 Speaker 1: that was Steve McNair. And we put Steve McNair in 930 00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:33,640 Speaker 1: the second round on our board, on our board, and 931 00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:39,480 Speaker 1: I think he went third overall. And when I remember, 932 00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:41,880 Speaker 1: I remember going to the board because I was the 933 00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:46,080 Speaker 1: guy responsible, Elliott Wolf who now works for the Patriots. 934 00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:48,640 Speaker 1: Elliott was ten years old and he helped me with 935 00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:52,520 Speaker 1: the tags and stuff. And I'll never forget when the 936 00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:55,920 Speaker 1: Houston Oilers made that pick and I had to go 937 00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:58,759 Speaker 1: get his tag, I mean like the third pick, and 938 00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:01,799 Speaker 1: I had to get his tag the second round and 939 00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:04,839 Speaker 1: put it on that board on the Houston other side 940 00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:08,719 Speaker 1: of the board, and I'm thinking, man, did we just 941 00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:14,279 Speaker 1: really mess this up? And sure enough we did. But 942 00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:17,520 Speaker 1: we're from a system, and Bucky you're part of that 943 00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:21,040 Speaker 1: system too, where you say, hey, this is where we 944 00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:26,960 Speaker 1: see the player a quarterback tied in tackle whoever, I mean, 945 00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:29,440 Speaker 1: there was no. There was no Okay, push him up 946 00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:32,200 Speaker 1: because he's a quarterback and do this and that. I mean, 947 00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:35,680 Speaker 1: we were trying to be fair about it. Will we 948 00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:39,319 Speaker 1: ride all the time? Absolutely not? But I know I 949 00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:43,040 Speaker 1: came from a system that tried to measure all the 950 00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:47,439 Speaker 1: players at the same level. It's interesting hearing about Steve 951 00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:51,400 Speaker 1: McNair being a second round grade and then going third overall. 952 00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:54,080 Speaker 1: Is that not a little bit reminiscent of what Mac 953 00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:56,319 Speaker 1: Jones is going through right now? If that ends up 954 00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:59,279 Speaker 1: being the pick at well number three, let me tell 955 00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:01,400 Speaker 1: you this. Let me tell you this. I had somebody 956 00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:05,560 Speaker 1: tell me this yesterday about about Mac Jones. But I 957 00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:07,560 Speaker 1: don't believe that Mac Jones is going to be the 958 00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:10,000 Speaker 1: third on all the pick me personally, I don't. I 959 00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:12,520 Speaker 1: don't believe it. I don't believe it. But I will 960 00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:16,520 Speaker 1: say this though, Daniel Jones was picked sixth overall by 961 00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:20,359 Speaker 1: the Giants and someone told me that, and that was 962 00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:23,479 Speaker 1: a that was the punch in the face right there. 963 00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:26,879 Speaker 1: That was like, listen, you don't like Mac Jones, Well 964 00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:30,520 Speaker 1: somebody took Daniel Jones at at sixth overall. Think about that, 965 00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:34,840 Speaker 1: and I'm like, there's your possibility. All it takes is somebody. 966 00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:37,760 Speaker 1: We say this every year. All it takes is somebody 967 00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:40,239 Speaker 1: to fall in love. And you know, if you like 968 00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:43,279 Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins, and Kirk Cousins wasn't what a fourth round pick. 969 00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:46,960 Speaker 1: But if you like Kirk Cousins, you should like mac Jones. 970 00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:50,080 Speaker 1: And you know, and Kirk Cousins has played a long 971 00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:52,120 Speaker 1: time in this league. Is he the greatest player in 972 00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:55,279 Speaker 1: the league, greatest quarterback? La, No, he's not. But like 973 00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:58,600 Speaker 1: I say, all it takes is that one team to 974 00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:02,520 Speaker 1: say this is our guy and that team at San Francisco, 975 00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:06,120 Speaker 1: It's not John Lynch running that team. It's Kyle Shanahan 976 00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:08,960 Speaker 1: running that team. John Lynch is the guy that has 977 00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:12,040 Speaker 1: the title. It's Kyle Shanahan's the one running that team. 978 00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:14,040 Speaker 1: He's going to take the players he wants to take, 979 00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:16,640 Speaker 1: not the players that John Lynch wants to take him. 980 00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:20,279 Speaker 1: It's funny, Brian. I think the mac Jones thing is 981 00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:25,279 Speaker 1: really important because I do believe our biggest mistakes come 982 00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:29,120 Speaker 1: when we deviate away from really the purity of the process. Right. 983 00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:31,719 Speaker 1: So we've all sat up here and talked about Kyle 984 00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:35,600 Speaker 1: Pitts being arguably the best or second best player in 985 00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:39,279 Speaker 1: the draft. And I think what happens is maybe even 986 00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:41,239 Speaker 1: on our side, maybe even within the league, because I 987 00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:43,480 Speaker 1: think they're more influenced by the media than they will 988 00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:47,520 Speaker 1: always admit. I think this thing with the quarterbacks has 989 00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:51,200 Speaker 1: really tainted the process when it comes to really grading players, 990 00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:54,040 Speaker 1: because if we really kept it as simple as hey, 991 00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:57,239 Speaker 1: if we're playing a game out in the park, who 992 00:52:57,280 --> 00:53:01,400 Speaker 1: would I want? Yeah, all of those quarterbacks wouldn't be 993 00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:04,800 Speaker 1: in the conversation as like top five in this draft class. 994 00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:07,560 Speaker 1: And so I think it just muddies the water, and 995 00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:10,560 Speaker 1: then we make these mistakes trying to get it right 996 00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:13,000 Speaker 1: on draft night as opposed to, Hey, I want to 997 00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:15,080 Speaker 1: be right in three years that I said this guy 998 00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:17,239 Speaker 1: can play and he's gonna play at this level. That's 999 00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:21,120 Speaker 1: what my grade is, as high as it is combined 1000 00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:25,000 Speaker 1: sixty five years of draft experience between this panel right here. 1001 00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:27,000 Speaker 1: That's why I wanted to ask that question, because Dane's 1002 00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:29,200 Speaker 1: been doing this for sixteen years, Bucky, you've been doing 1003 00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:31,520 Speaker 1: it since two thousand and one, Brian, of course, since 1004 00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:34,680 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety two. I think that's just a fun thing 1005 00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:37,239 Speaker 1: to think about going into next week because it could 1006 00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:39,920 Speaker 1: end up being your favorite draft moment next year or 1007 00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:42,839 Speaker 1: excuse me, next week four years to come, that we'll 1008 00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:45,520 Speaker 1: be talking about down the road. Let's take our second break. 1009 00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:48,560 Speaker 1: When we come back, we're gonna get Dan's mock draft, 1010 00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:51,400 Speaker 1: and we're also going to hit his top three hundred 1011 00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:54,040 Speaker 1: couple key points out of his top three hundred that 1012 00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:56,239 Speaker 1: you can find on the Athletic when we return on 1013 00:53:56,280 --> 00:54:00,680 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show. Sometimes nothing beats 1014 00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:03,880 Speaker 1: a classic Miller Light the original light beer proved with 1015 00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:07,719 Speaker 1: great taste and only ninety six calories available for delivery. 1016 00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:11,880 Speaker 1: Celebrate Responsibly Miller Brewin Company, Milwaukee, Wisconsin, ninety six calories 1017 00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:16,360 Speaker 1: three point two cars for twelve ounces. 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Submit your picks by Thursday, April twenty 1054 00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:23,520 Speaker 1: nine at six fifty nine pm Central Time to be 1055 00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:27,320 Speaker 1: eligible to win plenty of prizes and Dane Real. Quickly 1056 00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:30,359 Speaker 1: hit your picks. We've got about four minutes here. Hit 1057 00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:33,000 Speaker 1: your picks, and then tell us your favorite thing about 1058 00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:37,560 Speaker 1: your top three hundred. Oh, I'll get my top three 1059 00:56:37,640 --> 00:56:39,080 Speaker 1: hundred out of the way. My favorite wing is I 1060 00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:40,840 Speaker 1: don't have to do it again. It's don get it 1061 00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:44,319 Speaker 1: out of the way. It's it's tough doing those things 1062 00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:46,759 Speaker 1: for like a generic you know, I don't have a 1063 00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:51,080 Speaker 1: specific team I'm scouting for. You know, a specific culture, 1064 00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:53,279 Speaker 1: that type of thing. So it's tough ranking those top 1065 00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:55,200 Speaker 1: three hundred, but hopefully people check it out because I 1066 00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:57,560 Speaker 1: put a lot into it my seven round long for 1067 00:56:57,560 --> 00:57:00,319 Speaker 1: the Cowboys. So starting with Patrick's Urtan just like uh, 1068 00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:03,719 Speaker 1: you know the first two mocks, I think percentage chance 1069 00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:06,880 Speaker 1: of it happening, you have to it's the highest. Um. 1070 00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:10,120 Speaker 1: I don't think that we should eliminate JC Horne from 1071 00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:13,960 Speaker 1: that conversation. He's really intriguing as a dark horse candidate 1072 00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:17,640 Speaker 1: there In the second round, and went Javon Holland at Oregon. Uh, 1073 00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:20,400 Speaker 1: you know we know that this defensive coordinator went up 1074 00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:23,280 Speaker 1: to Oregon for that pro day. Uh. You talk about, 1075 00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:26,960 Speaker 1: you know this this scheme and a guy that can 1076 00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:29,720 Speaker 1: play safety, he could play the nickel. Uh. You know, 1077 00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:32,680 Speaker 1: a guy who's approven, go and get the football guy. 1078 00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:36,760 Speaker 1: Javon Holland as really interesting for this this scheme and 1079 00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:41,280 Speaker 1: this team. At number forty four seventy five, I went 1080 00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:44,080 Speaker 1: with on the defensive line, and I went with Milton 1081 00:57:44,120 --> 00:57:47,040 Speaker 1: Williams at a Louisiana tech like it. Um, I think 1082 00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:50,360 Speaker 1: he's a play you know Tyron Crawford, Uh, he could 1083 00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:52,280 Speaker 1: be your next Tyron Crawford. A guy that could play inside, 1084 00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:54,680 Speaker 1: could play outside. Uh, you know he's sixty three two 1085 00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:57,600 Speaker 1: eighty five, really good athlete. You wish he was a 1086 00:57:57,680 --> 00:58:00,880 Speaker 1: little bit longer, But a guy that is just kind 1087 00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:03,400 Speaker 1: of scratching the surface of what he could be if 1088 00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:05,480 Speaker 1: you get him at pick seventy five. I really liked 1089 00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:08,840 Speaker 1: that value. What with Deonte Smith, just like Bucky there 1090 00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:11,400 Speaker 1: and in the late third, I think he's You're kind 1091 00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:14,160 Speaker 1: of in a lot of ways your ideal developmental tackle, 1092 00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:16,960 Speaker 1: but can also play inside a guard. He did both 1093 00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:19,040 Speaker 1: at the Senior Bowl and played it at a high level. 1094 00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:22,480 Speaker 1: And round number four, pick one fifteen when Chauncey Golston, 1095 00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:26,480 Speaker 1: I just I love adding a player like that to 1096 00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:29,880 Speaker 1: bolster my defensive line in the fourth round, a guy 1097 00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:34,400 Speaker 1: who is instinctive, love the motor, love the hustle. In 1098 00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:36,800 Speaker 1: the fourth round with came rammergrown that the second fourth 1099 00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:39,800 Speaker 1: round pick, that linebacker, as long as the knee checks out, okay, 1100 00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:43,720 Speaker 1: speed instincts, he can outplay that draft spot. In the 1101 00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:46,160 Speaker 1: fifth I went to mary on Terry at a Florida 1102 00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:49,760 Speaker 1: State who can fly and he's long, and he just 1103 00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:53,120 Speaker 1: he needs development time, He needs some more coaching and 1104 00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:56,920 Speaker 1: if he is able to be coachable and get coached up, 1105 00:58:57,760 --> 00:58:59,960 Speaker 1: he's going to be a steal at that point, John Bay, 1106 00:59:00,680 --> 00:59:01,960 Speaker 1: you have to go with the boys and state player 1107 00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:04,760 Speaker 1: at some point right for the team. So go John 1108 00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:07,760 Speaker 1: Bates and tight end. In the sixth William Sherman, the 1109 00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:10,919 Speaker 1: guards center, played left tackle Colorado. But I think prig 1110 00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:14,160 Speaker 1: Ject's best is a guard center. And then uh Nuegu 1111 00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:16,680 Speaker 1: the running back at Iowa State, who I think could 1112 00:59:16,760 --> 00:59:18,680 Speaker 1: maybe be a little more on offense than he did 1113 00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:20,480 Speaker 1: in college, but it's gonna help you on special teams 1114 00:59:20,480 --> 00:59:26,880 Speaker 1: as well. Any thoughts, Brian, Yeah, I tell you what. 1115 00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:29,600 Speaker 1: I liked what he did. I was kind of intrigued 1116 00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:31,360 Speaker 1: by the and I know it's late in the draft. 1117 00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:35,160 Speaker 1: I was intrigued by the Colorado tackle. Yeah, And I 1118 00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:38,960 Speaker 1: like what you're talking about him playing potentially playing some 1119 00:59:39,160 --> 00:59:43,080 Speaker 1: guard as well. I think the Cowboys think the Cowboys 1120 00:59:43,240 --> 00:59:47,880 Speaker 1: are always in these The Cowboys are always in that 1121 00:59:48,080 --> 00:59:51,720 Speaker 1: mode where they're gonna take some type of developmental lineman. 1122 00:59:52,080 --> 00:59:54,280 Speaker 1: But this kid, you watch him playing the running game, 1123 00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:57,080 Speaker 1: I mean, he was a powerful guy, and I think 1124 00:59:57,120 --> 00:59:59,480 Speaker 1: there's some some really good upside there. I mean, when 1125 00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:02,080 Speaker 1: you watched him come off the ball, he gets the guys, 1126 01:00:02,160 --> 01:00:05,000 Speaker 1: he finishes guys. You can work on his pass block 1127 01:00:05,040 --> 01:00:07,080 Speaker 1: and stuff. But man, I kind of liked that. I 1128 01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:09,800 Speaker 1: had him a little bit higher than even where Dane 1129 01:00:09,840 --> 01:00:11,920 Speaker 1: took him. So good for him to have him on 1130 01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:16,600 Speaker 1: that board, Bucky, I mean, I liked it overall. Now 1131 01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:20,640 Speaker 1: I liked it overall, and I think Dane obviously paying 1132 01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:24,200 Speaker 1: attention to the Cowboys draft habits because certain teams, certain 1133 01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:26,520 Speaker 1: general managers have sweet spots that they go to when 1134 01:00:26,520 --> 01:00:28,320 Speaker 1: it comes to players. So you can talk about Boys 1135 01:00:28,520 --> 01:00:31,280 Speaker 1: State being one, so being able to go there. And 1136 01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:34,680 Speaker 1: then really when we get down to that day three, 1137 01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:36,880 Speaker 1: the fourth through seventh rounds where we talked about the 1138 01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:40,280 Speaker 1: developmental prospects and trying to find one or two courtraits 1139 01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:42,720 Speaker 1: that are necessary not only for them to get on 1140 01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:46,960 Speaker 1: the field to eventually become regular contributors, but how can 1141 01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:50,080 Speaker 1: they impact special teams. That's where your speed and your 1142 01:00:50,080 --> 01:00:53,200 Speaker 1: physicality and all those teams kind of tend to wait. 1143 01:01:02,280 --> 01:01:05,120 Speaker 1: So sorry we lost Bucky at the end there, first 1144 01:01:05,120 --> 01:01:08,080 Speaker 1: foot second, But yeah, I agree with the mock draft. 1145 01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:10,919 Speaker 1: I really like the Milton Williams pick in that third round. 1146 01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:14,600 Speaker 1: Dane I actually had him in my seven round mock 1147 01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:17,280 Speaker 1: as well, in that third round category as that defensive 1148 01:01:17,320 --> 01:01:19,800 Speaker 1: tackle that could maybe play inside outside be that time 1149 01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:22,960 Speaker 1: round Crawford replacement. I love that pick overall, and I 1150 01:01:23,080 --> 01:01:25,280 Speaker 1: know the Cowboys have had a little bit of interest 1151 01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:29,240 Speaker 1: there as well. I'll release my picks out on social media. 1152 01:01:29,280 --> 01:01:31,360 Speaker 1: We're gonna put all four of these on the same 1153 01:01:31,480 --> 01:01:34,040 Speaker 1: sheet that the fans would fill out on the Draft 1154 01:01:34,120 --> 01:01:37,000 Speaker 1: Kings Draft Pick Challenge, and we'll put that out on 1155 01:01:37,080 --> 01:01:41,040 Speaker 1: social media for everybody to see. But guys, I hate 1156 01:01:41,080 --> 01:01:43,960 Speaker 1: that we're constrained to an hour. How about next week around? 1157 01:01:44,640 --> 01:01:46,880 Speaker 1: How about Thursday night? We could do this for like 1158 01:01:47,000 --> 01:01:49,640 Speaker 1: a long time. How does that sound just like hours 1159 01:01:49,720 --> 01:01:52,120 Speaker 1: at a time on the Draft show coverage? Because I 1160 01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:54,840 Speaker 1: could talk about this stuff all night long, and I 1161 01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:57,000 Speaker 1: feel like we should do that. Maybe we should do 1162 01:01:57,040 --> 01:01:59,520 Speaker 1: it all next weekend. I think that sounds like fun, right, Dan, 1163 01:02:02,040 --> 01:02:05,520 Speaker 1: sign me up? It does sound like a lot of fun. Yeah, 1164 01:02:05,960 --> 01:02:09,320 Speaker 1: brought us you ready? Yeah? Yeah? Dane is looking forward 1165 01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:12,960 Speaker 1: to yeah Dane, And Dane is looking forward to me 1166 01:02:13,240 --> 01:02:16,880 Speaker 1: coming up with some really witty saying to start the draft, right, Dane, 1167 01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:21,640 Speaker 1: Like these are the times that trim in. That's right, 1168 01:02:21,720 --> 01:02:26,400 Speaker 1: exactly teaser for Cowboys fans. I'm looking at flights right 1169 01:02:26,440 --> 01:02:28,640 Speaker 1: now to be done now, So let's make this happen. 1170 01:02:28,920 --> 01:02:31,480 Speaker 1: Let's go. All the sounds good, all the powers that 1171 01:02:31,640 --> 01:02:35,720 Speaker 1: be are coming together, everybody. It's Draft week almost here 1172 01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:38,120 Speaker 1: from the start in Frisco. And don't worry, Brian will 1173 01:02:38,160 --> 01:02:40,920 Speaker 1: have his witty saying to start off draft coverage to 1174 01:02:41,080 --> 01:02:43,640 Speaker 1: kick it all off. It's gonna be fantastic. You can, 1175 01:02:43,920 --> 01:02:45,920 Speaker 1: of course follow all these guys on social media, but 1176 01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:49,120 Speaker 1: we'll be back on Tuesday and Wednesday next week to 1177 01:02:49,280 --> 01:02:52,040 Speaker 1: lead you in to the full wall to wall coverage 1178 01:02:52,040 --> 01:02:54,720 Speaker 1: of the twenty twenty one NFL Draft here on the 1179 01:02:54,840 --> 01:02:57,200 Speaker 1: Draft Show. But for Chris Beam, for Brian, brought us 1180 01:02:57,280 --> 01:02:59,840 Speaker 1: Dane Brugler and the great Bucky Brooks. Some Kyle Yeoman's 1181 01:02:59,840 --> 01:03:02,080 Speaker 1: will see you next week on the Dallas Cowboys dot 1182 01:03:02,120 --> 01:03:05,920 Speaker 1: Com Draft Show. This has been a production of Dallas 1183 01:03:05,960 --> 01:03:09,080 Speaker 1: Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club