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Speaker 3: I could have kept going off, but I wanted to
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Speaker 4: I wanted to.
Speaker 1: I have never done a versus. I've been offered to
Speaker 1: do a versus. I've never done it. How does it
Speaker 1: feel coming off a versus?
Speaker 4: Man? It's dope. I look at that. I look at
Speaker 4: that versus like like playing two K, like you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, or like even playing golf, you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, Like I'm picking up golf a lot lately,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. But it's like that, you
Speaker 4: gotta you gotta dial in your game. You gotta stick
Speaker 4: to your game, and you gotta just hopefully end up
Speaker 4: end up on top. You know what I'm saying. You
Speaker 4: and whoever you go against, you gotta have your method
Speaker 4: and you gotta have your game, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Like on how you gonna you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: You utilize your catalog or whatnot, and then it's like
Speaker 4: when you get done, it's like I feel like I
Speaker 4: feel like, you know, versus that's it, like what Swizzing
Speaker 4: and Timbo created right there. It's like that's like a
Speaker 4: winning circle. That's like a you gotta be a winner
Speaker 4: to even get on verses first of all, so it
Speaker 4: ain't it can't be no loser, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: And then you got to know that the person that
Speaker 4: you're going up against, like against you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: On the verses, it's like this is another goat. So
Speaker 4: anytime if you slip up on your strategy, you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, it could be a slippery slope, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. So it's like you how your
Speaker 4: game died in And that's why I said it's like golf,
Speaker 4: because it's like if you're going for parts A, part four,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, you hit it over there
Speaker 4: in the woods, You're gonna have to clean it up.
Speaker 4: You're gonna have to you know what I'm saying. You
Speaker 4: still got to make your way there and get part.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, because at the end, at
Speaker 4: the end of the ended up that hole right there
Speaker 4: is gonna be like, man, what you get? You know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. If you if you're a bogie or whatever,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, Your clean up shot might
Speaker 4: be your drive might be asked, but your clean up
Speaker 4: shot might be you know what I'm saying, the shot.
Speaker 4: But it's like I don't know, it's just it's just
Speaker 4: dope because I mean at the end of the day,
Speaker 4: like you could always look back and be like, damn,
Speaker 4: I could have did this different. I could have did
Speaker 4: that different. Like you know what I'm saying when when
Speaker 4: you play golf, when you play NBA two K, like
Speaker 4: you always like damn, I know I lost because of
Speaker 4: this in this game right here, But you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying, I'm not a loser. I can got damn
Speaker 4: get back on the stick and we could run it
Speaker 4: back or whatever. You feel me and somebody like, hey boy,
Speaker 4: he got a hell of a catalog. Yeah, So it's
Speaker 4: like that's.
Speaker 3: A crazy match. That was I enjoyed. I'm sorry you
Speaker 3: finished so much.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I was just saying, like, man, you got a
Speaker 4: hell of a catalog, and it's like it's not easy
Speaker 4: for no producer to getting getting on stage with him,
Speaker 4: and you do it like a versus you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. So, yeah, you know, you know.
Speaker 1: What I love about versus? This is this is this
Speaker 1: is the thing about it is It kind of started
Speaker 1: with Swiss and Tim right. Yeah, And I love the
Speaker 1: fact that y'all kept the tradition going. Yeah, Like when
Speaker 1: I saw y'all, I was like, oh, ship, I seen
Speaker 1: y'all having run on stage.
Speaker 3: I seen y'all together. I'm happy to California.
Speaker 4: Correct.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So when you got the first call with what
Speaker 1: was that?
Speaker 3: What was that thought process?
Speaker 4: It was crazy because it's like man, man, Swizz, We've
Speaker 4: been talking about doing the versus for a minute and
Speaker 4: then we're just trying to figure out like who would
Speaker 4: be like a good matchup.
Speaker 3: Was it always against hit Boy or no?
Speaker 4: It was just like it was a couple of names
Speaker 4: like throwing out that. But I was just like, man,
Speaker 4: like I'm with it because like I really wanted, like
Speaker 4: because I'm thirty six, I really wanted like one of
Speaker 4: the somebody that I grew up like looking up to.
Speaker 4: You know what, I'm saying because it's like I still
Speaker 4: feel like my twenty strong no matter what, Like you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. It was like no really like
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, and I'd rather like going there,
Speaker 4: like man, yo, this dude gonna this is gonna get washed.
Speaker 1: Wait hold on, So you saying you wanted to battle somebody.
Speaker 3: I was the Statesman. Yeah, really like a DJ for man.
Speaker 4: But yeah, like anybody, okay, Like I was just I
Speaker 4: was just thinking like on some like just just knowing
Speaker 4: like exactly what I was saying, like Okay, this would
Speaker 4: be my method, Like you know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 4: I got different ways.
Speaker 3: It was confident in your cattle.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I got different ways I can go in this catalog.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. If it was to go
Speaker 4: this way, that way, this way, that way, you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. So it was just like you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, Like you go to the basketball court
Speaker 4: and you know you can hoot, you like, man, I
Speaker 4: want I want to. I want to ball again? How
Speaker 4: a man I always say he wanted Lebrin Like you
Speaker 4: know what.
Speaker 3: I'm saying, Like you want, you want to, you want but.
Speaker 4: At the same time. It's dope and men hit boy
Speaker 4: ass so many hits around the same time, so it
Speaker 4: was dope. That was a dope ass matchup, you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. But me and Swiss have been talking
Speaker 4: about it for like for like a few years, like
Speaker 4: like who were lining up and I'm like, man, I'm
Speaker 4: with it, Like man, I'm with that, Like that that's
Speaker 4: the dope. That's the dope platform because a lot of
Speaker 4: times some people know that I did this, this and that,
Speaker 4: but they don't know I did that, that and this.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. I'm like to be able
Speaker 4: to play all my songs at at one time, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying on on on the platform. I'm like, man,
Speaker 4: that that'll be That'll be dope. So that was like
Speaker 4: a couple of years ago. Then randomly Jimmy ivin just
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, Texas me, Swizz, you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, manager and Timberland and was like, man,
Speaker 4: are we doing the versus of work? You know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. And then and then and then that's how
Speaker 4: they are. Yeah, we just all talked about it right
Speaker 4: there and then and then in the group text right
Speaker 4: there and it was like and then they were like, man,
Speaker 4: ship Grammy weekend, we're gonna bring the producers back, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, Like, Man, we're trying to figure
Speaker 4: out who down, Like man, you down? Okay boom? Hit
Speaker 4: Boy just said he down. Man, I'm like, shit, let's
Speaker 4: run it like that's that's dope.
Speaker 3: So so so. So here's here's.
Speaker 1: One one thing, right, was what made you agree to
Speaker 1: doing it in California?
Speaker 4: I was doing it wherever? Man, I ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 1: Because because hit Boy's from California, right, and that's kind
Speaker 1: of like home court advantage, no for real, So for you,
Speaker 1: I was like I would have thought that you would
Speaker 1: have said, man, let's do this in the A.
Speaker 4: Let's we can't. We can't do it the name. You
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, because just like that's like I just.
Speaker 3: Looked at your like.
Speaker 4: Is like that's like actual home. Like it's like that
Speaker 4: ship meant like you thought it was turned up like
Speaker 4: in that room Like man, them song actually means something
Speaker 4: like you feel me like that. That's what the seed is, like,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, planted, But I just felt
Speaker 4: like all we're doing it whatever, just because like, man, man,
Speaker 4: this is this vibration this ship travel when that ship
Speaker 4: was like like so local, but like that vibration travel,
Speaker 4: so like man, we could do it in perish with
Speaker 4: the one up like you know what I'm saying, like.
Speaker 1: I tell you this when you say that, and I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say this to you and it's gonna hurt me.
Speaker 3: This is the South ship again.
Speaker 1: It's so But it was a time when y'all y'all
Speaker 1: going back and forth and hit Boy.
Speaker 3: Plays a NAS record.
Speaker 1: And the NAS record did not go up at all,
Speaker 1: Like I was so mad. And then I had to
Speaker 1: realize that sometimes us in New York, we really did
Speaker 1: think that.
Speaker 4: What's your thoughts? You know what?
Speaker 1: We all But when I seen that, I was like,
Speaker 1: damn Nori. I was just the first time I.
Speaker 3: Was like fuck because it's a conversation. We have a lot.
Speaker 3: So we have him up from Miami, he from.
Speaker 5: New York and we have this conversation that like in
Speaker 5: the early nineties when I was coming up doing stuff,
Speaker 5: New York had the lock on the whole hip hop
Speaker 5: industry and it was hard to break through that.
Speaker 3: The A and rs and labels everybody was New York centric.
Speaker 5: And that's why when you when when Andre says this
Speaker 5: South got something to stay that resonated, and then you
Speaker 5: know the South obviously, I.
Speaker 4: Mean, I mean it's all it's all about like like evolution,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. It's like I feel like
Speaker 4: it was a time where like the West Coast was
Speaker 4: damn like the mecca hip hop, and like the sound,
Speaker 4: like everybody's sound was like West Coast driven then and
Speaker 4: then it was like the mecca hip hop is in
Speaker 4: like New York, you know what I'm saying. And then
Speaker 4: you got you got the whole music industry and the
Speaker 4: mecca hip hop in New York. And then you got
Speaker 4: a whole bunch of like businessmen and like hustlers like
Speaker 4: starting all these different labels and starting all these different
Speaker 4: boutique labels, and there's so much culturing, so much energy
Speaker 4: in New York, you know what I'm saying. So it's
Speaker 4: like that shit just a line, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: It was just like that was like that renaissance and
Speaker 4: then it's like boom, Like when when Andre said that,
Speaker 4: that was like kicking the door open, you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. Then it's like it's been it's been so
Speaker 4: many different you know what I'm saying, Like people that
Speaker 4: put the city on their back and like just and
Speaker 4: like just like like bust busting through the doors, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying on the sound and it's like man,
Speaker 4: it's like, man, we just I just noticed is like
Speaker 4: a new renaissance. Is like man, like you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying, And I gotta I gotta hold it down too.
Speaker 4: It's like the mecca hip hop is in Atlanta now
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, And.
Speaker 1: Said if I'm gonna if we're sorry New York, but
Speaker 1: it's like Atlanta, y'all all run.
Speaker 4: God, and it ain't nothing wrong with that. Like even
Speaker 4: when even when the even when the mecca hip hop
Speaker 4: was in New York, you know what I'm saying, there
Speaker 4: was so many there was so many people from Atlanta
Speaker 4: that we went to New York. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: we had you know what I'm saying, that's so not
Speaker 4: a mecca down there. It's like it's like the super
Speaker 4: Bowl being here, in the super Bowl being there and the.
Speaker 3: Super you know what I'm saying, Like that, you know.
Speaker 4: What I'm saying, like the World Cup, Like you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna go and say what I'm saying because when
Speaker 5: somebody else comes, you switch up on me.
Speaker 3: So don't even start that ship.
Speaker 4: Because because you know, because one thing you know about it,
Speaker 4: Like New York got too much energy, you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying, Like when New York got too much energy,
Speaker 4: too much culture. So it's somebody out there, you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. Now, they just need like man, sometimes
Speaker 4: folks would be needing the guidance. So they just be
Speaker 4: needing like the right producer, and they just got to
Speaker 4: be with creating the right way. Like look at Cash Cobaine,
Speaker 4: Like you know what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: Like like man, they whole wave, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: Like their whole waves. Like it's just like a new wave.
Speaker 4: It's like they're being original. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: When pop Smoke came through, there's so many, so many
Speaker 4: energy that then came from New York, the.
Speaker 3: Birthplace of hip hop. You'll never be take no hold on.
Speaker 3: I've always said that we all wanted to be like
Speaker 3: New York. But it was the mecca of you know,
Speaker 3: emulating New York. Y'all are the ones like nah out
Speaker 3: the South man, no gotta comes out here. I like it.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. I man my bad like that.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. I'm sorry, Yeah, this makes
Speaker 4: the appreciate that accountability man.
Speaker 3: No, he's not gonna be accountable lady man like I.
Speaker 4: Don't want to be the New York man. You saw
Speaker 4: the verses like why didn't nobody You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: I like, this song got the right.
Speaker 1: Percentage, Like you know what I'm saying, I ain't gonna
Speaker 1: lie when you when that no song play and the
Speaker 1: crowd didn't.
Speaker 3: Erupt like that.
Speaker 1: I kind of was like to myself, I was like, damn,
Speaker 1: I gotta like look at reality.
Speaker 4: No, but she's no that that ain't That ain't fair though,
Speaker 4: because at the same time, there's a whole world where
Speaker 4: when he played that man that ship exactly you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: It for me, I looked around. I was like, what
Speaker 3: the fun.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, But it's just the room.
Speaker 4: Like what I'm saying could have been certain songs that
Speaker 4: I might have played that might have been to this
Speaker 4: way and the room might not have moved. You know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, But I knew at that time. It's like, Man,
Speaker 4: I'm playing my catalog with Hi boy catalog. I know
Speaker 4: he got his. You know what I'm saying, I'm gonna
Speaker 4: go hiss, I'm gonna go I'm gonna still go underground.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. I'm not gonna you know
Speaker 4: what I'm Saying'm gonna balance it out, you feel me.
Speaker 4: So it's like it's just a different, different technique, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Okay, So God comes down right now, God says Mike, Well,
Speaker 1: you got one record to make to save humanity. You
Speaker 1: got one feature? What artist you pick it to save humanity?
Speaker 3: Now? This don't gotta be no no.
Speaker 1: No positive record, raw, negative record, just whatever record you
Speaker 1: want to make.
Speaker 3: Who's that artist you're going.
Speaker 4: To right now? Right now? Man said Aran? Who is shre? M? Holy?
Speaker 4: Holy said?
Speaker 3: You're gonna say future?
Speaker 4: I mean ship. You can't bits with future.
Speaker 3: You can't miss the future?
Speaker 4: Yeahs for future?
Speaker 3: But who.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying to me, I like to
Speaker 4: throw the curve balls. You know what I'm saying, you know,
Speaker 4: I know whatever you were expecting. I know you weren't
Speaker 4: expecting that, you know what I'm saying. So Seidh Ram,
Speaker 4: he's like popping artists from India. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: India ship. Yeah, he told me about India. Yeah, he
Speaker 4: like it's crazy because him and I had did a
Speaker 4: record before.
Speaker 3: The point.
Speaker 4: So it's like seem I had met him through my
Speaker 4: manager DJ. You know what I'm saying, Like him and
Speaker 4: DJ they Dad did. Dad did like a project of
Speaker 4: two with each other, my depth jam, you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. And then I had met Sid and then
Speaker 4: it was like perfect time because he was just getting
Speaker 4: out of his death jam there and like I told him,
Speaker 4: I'm like, bro, we're gonna make that music that made
Speaker 4: people want to get fly. They want makee people want
Speaker 4: to put on cologne. You know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 4: like if you're in the car with your bibe or whatever,
Speaker 4: and it's like, you know what I'm saying, Like I
Speaker 4: want to put somebody on something new, Like you're gonna
Speaker 4: you're gonna play this, you know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 4: he already has like a whole fan base. They already
Speaker 4: love him, you know what I'm saying, But like I
Speaker 4: wanted to come with like a brand new sound with him,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, Like because his voice was amazing,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. So we ended up locking
Speaker 4: in last year and we just had like we had
Speaker 4: a session in LA but then we had most of
Speaker 4: the sessions that my compound in Atlanta, you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying, made it way, and like, man.
Speaker 3: He tried to say that donal he's at my compound and.
Speaker 4: That's not normal now seventy thousand square feet, you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. Well, that's a blessing for sure, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. But that's like the headquarters. You
Speaker 4: know I'm saying, we were cooking up and just we're
Speaker 4: just trying to innovate, you know what I'm saying. We're
Speaker 4: just trying to like literally innovate and like create like
Speaker 4: a new sound, like a new wave. Like even like
Speaker 4: pairing this producer with this new artist like man, man
Speaker 4: you tough and youtuugh Man, I want to see y'all
Speaker 4: go crazy, like because I feel like that's important. Like
Speaker 4: even when when Rocco had linked me in future like that.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. It was like we created
Speaker 4: a whole wave and you know what I'm saying, it's
Speaker 4: like me, you know what I'm saying, Lincoln, countless people
Speaker 4: with countless people and seeing what kind of wave that created.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, It's like that, that's what
Speaker 4: That's what the centralized hub is. But like see it,
Speaker 4: it's like one of the persons, one of the people
Speaker 4: that I was walking in last year, and it's like
Speaker 4: man his pen and so he was raised he was
Speaker 4: born in India, but raising the bay, you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. His voice is like amazing. And then we
Speaker 4: ended up finding like that that that pocket where it's
Speaker 4: like any beat out come on, any beat that comes on,
Speaker 4: it's like he's attacking it. So it's like the beat
Speaker 4: that I'm thinking, like Yo, this is a difficult beat,
Speaker 4: but it's like man, hole get on this, or like, man,
Speaker 4: this is a hard beat for like twenty one Savage
Speaker 4: on somebody vibe out shit, or like this a hard
Speaker 4: beat for you know what I'm saying, Kanye or Da
Speaker 4: Da da Like you know what I'm saying. But I
Speaker 4: might just not have got that got those beats to
Speaker 4: like these artists, you know what I'm saying, but they're
Speaker 4: like challenging, so it's like only specific artists are gonna
Speaker 4: hear the understand it. And it's like, man, any beat
Speaker 4: I turned on, it's like, man, this dude knows how
Speaker 4: to take it, Like, you know what I'm saying, just
Speaker 4: take it there, and his voice just takes it to
Speaker 4: it just matches the energy of the beat. Like it's
Speaker 4: very seldom that, you know what I'm saying, when you
Speaker 4: when you got like a beat that you feel like
Speaker 4: there's a no brainer just even by itself. It's very
Speaker 4: seldom that an artist like matches that matches that energy.
Speaker 4: But when they do, like that's the magic, you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. And it's like all the songs that
Speaker 4: we did, it was like it was like that. It
Speaker 4: was like he was like expanding the beat. It was
Speaker 4: like he was like he was making real songs on
Speaker 4: that shit though, you know what I'm saying, And it's
Speaker 4: like and it's real heartfelt in his real life, and
Speaker 4: I feel like, you know what I'm saying, Like, I'm like, man, bro,
Speaker 4: if I could get away with singing that good, bro,
Speaker 4: you can sing you could just sing that. Somebody ask
Speaker 4: him anything. Man, he's singing, he's singing. Is that the
Speaker 4: language he's singing? He's singing his language. But this project
Speaker 4: right here is like majority English. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: He might he might balance it out, but you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, but it's like majority English. But it's like, man,
Speaker 4: it's a vibe. Man, he has he actually has a
Speaker 4: song on my album and that's gonna be the introduction.
Speaker 4: And then right after that we're dropping a project together.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: That Okay, so sorry, so they got to you're dropping
Speaker 3: an album.
Speaker 4: We're saying, oh yeah, I'm dropping an album.
Speaker 3: Okay, is just breaking news?
Speaker 4: A no, no, okay, yeah, but my last album was
Speaker 4: nine years ago, you know what I'm saying. So like, man,
Speaker 4: took nine years. You know what I'm saying, hit the reset.
Speaker 4: But so this new album is called Reset. You know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. It's Ransom three. It's r three s
Speaker 4: CT you know what I'm saying. Ransom always still for
Speaker 4: releasing all new songs orchestrated by Mike Will. You know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, So boom, like that was Ransom I
Speaker 4: already put out Ransom one that was a mixtape, Ransom Too.
Speaker 4: It was like the debut album, and then this is
Speaker 4: Ransom three, nine years later, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: And I feel like this, like, man, I feel like
Speaker 4: this is the hardest ship I don't put together, cause
Speaker 4: it's like it's like a crazy intersection. You know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. It's like the type of artists that's on here,
Speaker 4: Like the track list that's on here is like it's
Speaker 4: like it's like a crazy intersection. It's just like the
Speaker 4: cool it's like and it's just natural. It's like it's
Speaker 4: not for its.
Speaker 3: Artist.
Speaker 4: Just so everything happened at the Compound in the five.
Speaker 1: Percent culture nine years is reborn, right, Yes, it's called
Speaker 1: born born you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so the fact that you know you knew that
Speaker 3: if you do that or coach, did you hear what
Speaker 3: he said?
Speaker 4: Though?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know about They recorded everything at the compounds,
Speaker 5: like everything we talk about here there, how important it
Speaker 5: is to be with the artists.
Speaker 3: To work with the artists.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what I'm saying, And everyone is important
Speaker 4: because it's like.
Speaker 3: That's crazy.
Speaker 4: Even the number three is like I started looking.
Speaker 1: At egals nine three times yeah, yeah, three times three
Speaker 1: egles nine, Like.
Speaker 3: I'm looking at everybodybody looking at me, like what.
Speaker 4: Wrong with this nigga? I was I was looking at
Speaker 4: the numerology number three. You know what I'm saying. I
Speaker 4: was just saying there was like beginning, middle, and and
Speaker 4: like you know what I'm saying, past, present, future, And
Speaker 4: it was like that's what like over these nine years,
Speaker 4: it's like I've been able to like even reflect you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying and understand and then you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, like like now get back into the
Speaker 4: creative zone and and then start back hooking up and
Speaker 4: doing like new collaborations. And then just like as I
Speaker 4: put this compound together, like you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: like just setting up session, whatever happened organically, like not
Speaker 4: even reaching just like whatever, Like it's touched right here.
Speaker 4: It's like man, boom, Like if they pull it up,
Speaker 4: it's like their intention is like I'm trying to cook
Speaker 4: up with my will, Like you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: my intention, My intention is I'm trying to cook over
Speaker 4: with this person, and boom is like you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. These beats was made right here at this compound,
Speaker 4: and if any of these songs were recorded, it was
Speaker 4: like ten minutes down the street at Max. You know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. But it's like now at this point,
Speaker 4: it's been nine years, I got so much music secked up.
Speaker 4: But like this album right here, I'm excited about fifteen songs,
Speaker 4: Reset Ransom three and yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So it's a good it's a good collar cleanse man.
Speaker 4: Right now, when a lot of people saying that everything
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying sounds the same or like
Speaker 4: it's boring, I feel like this is a is a
Speaker 4: good polert cleanse for that. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: That's the beauty about you is you have a sound,
Speaker 3: but that's versatile. It's so versatile.
Speaker 4: It's that ear drummer where it's a ear drummer sound.
Speaker 4: You know. I got a whole production team, like you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, And that was one thing that
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, I started early on. It's
Speaker 4: like my production team is, like you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: started off for just like me, but but I have
Speaker 4: other people. Yeah, for sure, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: like I started off with ear Drummers, Like in two
Speaker 4: thousand and seven, I was in high school, you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. I was like seventeen eighteen and and Boom,
Speaker 4: I came up with the name ear Drummers, you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. And then like I was like, man, boom,
Speaker 4: I was already making the beat for Gucci and stuff.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. So I was like, man, yeah, like.
Speaker 3: You started for sure.
Speaker 4: I had like a group that I was in before
Speaker 4: we had like a buzz on the outside of town,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. And then like like like
Speaker 4: a lot of the cause I'm from, I'm from like
Speaker 4: car like Marietta, so you know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 4: a lot of the folks outside of Atlanta. Yeah that's
Speaker 4: like that's like going seventy five north outside of Atlanta.
Speaker 4: Yoh okay, you know what I'm saying. So boom, A
Speaker 4: lot of a lot of the artists on the West
Speaker 4: Side like shouted low defoel you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Franchise like they would go say, man for real, rest
Speaker 4: in peace, man. They would they would go to the
Speaker 4: they would go to like Cayd County clubs or like
Speaker 4: Marietta clubs, and like like that's how a lot of
Speaker 4: them got popping, you know what I'm saying. So Boom
Speaker 4: Shotty Lowe was like one of the first artists to
Speaker 4: be like, boom, give me his number out like fifteen sixteen,
Speaker 4: let me come to the studio, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So I used to go to Defoyel studio when I
Speaker 4: was like a teenager, you know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 4: then and then Gucci I had running to him at
Speaker 4: Patchwork because you know what I'm saying, studio, Yeah, big studio. Okay, okay, yeah,
Speaker 4: So like you know, back then, we didn't we couldn't
Speaker 4: bounce to beat down and just air dropping or like texting,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, Like like I'm thirty six,
Speaker 4: but they was like back then, I was like I
Speaker 4: was like sixteen seven. So we had multi track recorders,
Speaker 4: so I was recording on my beats on a multi
Speaker 4: travel recorder. I burned that joint on CD. But then
Speaker 4: I go to Patrick to get my CDs pressed up.
Speaker 4: To get my Beat CD pressed up, you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying, cost me about one hundred and fifty two hundred.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Boom, get my bacds pressed up.
Speaker 4: And then they say, Mike will boom phone number all that.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. I used to just I
Speaker 4: might have a box of fifty or a box one hundred.
Speaker 4: I'll give him to the white folks, you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. So one day I was right folks, No, no,
Speaker 4: the right folks, you know, the right folks man. And
Speaker 4: one of the first people that I gave it to
Speaker 4: because I was getting I was printing my CDs. And
Speaker 4: then and then my boy Blaze and told me he
Speaker 4: was like, man, Gucci man upstairs.
Speaker 3: Bro.
Speaker 4: I was like, for real And then he was like, yes,
Speaker 4: I went upstairs. Boom gave Gucci a CD. And then
Speaker 4: was like he went in the lounge. He was playing
Speaker 4: the CD and then he was just free selling to
Speaker 4: all the beats and then he ended up coming out
Speaker 4: here like hey, ain't she started with the beats. I'm
Speaker 4: like hell yeah. He was like come in here right quick,
Speaker 4: shut this out, and he was just rapping. And then
Speaker 4: like I was listening to him, like man, damn, it's hard.
Speaker 4: He was like, man, I need the file for this man.
Speaker 4: So one of my homeboys, he already was getting paid
Speaker 4: for beats. Like one of my homeboys I was making
Speaker 4: beats with the name of marvela Jay. You know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. He was already getting paid for beats. So
Speaker 4: I was like, man, damn, I can get paid for
Speaker 4: a beat. He asked me for the file. So you
Speaker 4: didn't know that at the time. You didn't know that you.
Speaker 4: I ain't never got paid. I ain't get paid for
Speaker 4: a feature. So I was so I told Goos, I'm like,
Speaker 4: you got to think this underground.
Speaker 3: Goops.
Speaker 4: I'm just like I'm like, man, I tell Goose, like, man,
Speaker 4: walk a flock. But just before I knew who Walker
Speaker 4: Flocker was like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I understand I'm trying to.
Speaker 4: This is like this is like, yeah, this is like
Speaker 4: before I knew who Walker Flocker was, you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. And but so boom I ended up giving
Speaker 4: to the city. So he's like, man, I need the files.
Speaker 4: So I was like, man, all right, man, ship bro,
Speaker 4: you just got to holler at my people. It's all
Speaker 4: good me management, And yeah, I ain't had no management.
Speaker 4: What I'm saying saying. So he started laughing. He was
Speaker 4: like hey. He was like, man, I fuck with you. Man,
Speaker 4: You're gonna be He was like, you a little player,
Speaker 4: let me get your number. How do you I was like, man,
Speaker 4: fifteen sixteen whatever I was at the time. So he's
Speaker 4: like he's like, man, boom, we'll shameing numbers. So now
Speaker 4: I got Gucci numbers. So now I had like I had,
Speaker 4: like different like independent artists. I'm like, yeah, man, I'll
Speaker 4: be rocking with guc Man, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So there one dude wanted to buy buy a feature.
Speaker 4: So I called Gucci one time, like yeah, hey, Gucci,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, Hey, I got this dude
Speaker 4: want to buy a feature? You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: He was like, oh, Gucci, been a feature from your beat? Okay,
Speaker 6: no Gucci, Gucci? So you like, man, hey making me.
Speaker 6: Hey it was this It was this level. Gucci was like, man,
Speaker 6: give me thirty five hundred for I hit the road.
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying. It was that level Gucci,
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying. But but he still knew.
Speaker 6: I was like a young dude like just at his phone,
Speaker 6: just trying to make something happen, like you feel me.
Speaker 6: So he had ended up going to jail. And then
Speaker 6: when he went to jail, Me and Walker had met
Speaker 6: each other in the club. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 6: But I never knew Walker knew Guccie. Me and Walker
Speaker 6: met each other on a whole nother note. We damned
Speaker 6: they were about to fight each other.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Like, yeah, that's how me
Speaker 4: and walking back like you know what I'm saying. It
Speaker 4: was like all right, so so boom, we are there,
Speaker 4: Well we're out there, were out there in Marietta. We
Speaker 4: were in one of these clubs. It's a popping spot
Speaker 4: club Q. You know what I'm saying, I'm too young
Speaker 4: to even being this joint. You know what I'm.
Speaker 3: Saying in my mind is walking like this.
Speaker 4: Man, he just talk, you know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 4: was like man, boom, he come in and like man like,
Speaker 4: it's all us over here. We got our own people.
Speaker 4: And then like walking them there. They're from the South Side,
Speaker 4: So you know what I'm saying. They was in that
Speaker 4: deep So some song come on somebody that he was
Speaker 4: with jumping face, throwing something in my face. So I'm
Speaker 4: the youngest of my whole crew. So one of my
Speaker 4: guys just push him. You know what I'm saying. Now
Speaker 4: that dude fly over there. Now that dude turning into
Speaker 4: three dudes, and then we start turning in, we start transforming.
Speaker 4: Everybody started forming, and then out of nowhere, Walker jump
Speaker 4: in front of his guys and put his hands up
Speaker 4: and it's like hey, heldo, holo, hold up, like you're
Speaker 4: like hey, and then my boy, my boy os. I
Speaker 4: had just met him. It's my brother still to this day,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. But I had just met him,
Speaker 4: but he was from New York. He had a New
Speaker 4: York had on. So him and Walker had already been
Speaker 4: talking over here. So when they see us, when they
Speaker 4: see the ship out to go down, they go both
Speaker 4: run over there, walk and get in front of his
Speaker 4: people alls get in front of us, and then they
Speaker 4: liked up and then and then walking like man, you
Speaker 4: ain't trying from New York. I'm like, nah, we ain't
Speaker 4: from New York. He's from New York, you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. And then and then and then walking like
Speaker 4: man walking like nah, nah, man ain't nigga cool man
Speaker 4: like ooh. And then he turned around and tell this dude, Man, hey, bro,
Speaker 4: y'all nigga find him for back? Bro, how far the
Speaker 4: fuck back? So boom they fall back Boom. You know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. Now we're over here, and next thing,
Speaker 4: you know, I go to the bathroom. You know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. I see this nigga in the bathroom. I'm like, man,
Speaker 4: probably this nigga gonna probably try some shit. Like when
Speaker 4: I walk out the bathroom, because he walking out, I'm
Speaker 4: walking in. You know what I'm saying, Yeah, so boom,
Speaker 4: I don't know who this is. I don't know this walker,
Speaker 4: flock or nothing. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, like
Speaker 4: we're in the clubs, club shit, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So you know what I'm saying, boom. Next thing, you know,
Speaker 4: he walk out. You know what I'm saying, walking in Boom.
Speaker 4: I ain't never goddamn coming out there. So you know.
Speaker 4: And then when you know, when you're too young, like
Speaker 4: you sixteen in the twenty or eighteen and old the
Speaker 4: club whatever it was, you know what I'm saying, you
Speaker 4: can kind of you can kind of tell this some
Speaker 4: one you used to walker like I'm walking out, walk up,
Speaker 4: put the arm around me, like, hey, bro, man, damn,
Speaker 4: it's a hose in here. Bro, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: And I was like, I was like, I'm like man,
Speaker 4: I'm like, nah for real, I'm like remember the hell
Speaker 4: y'all from He was like, man from the south Side.
Speaker 4: He was like, man, Broy got was like here, Bro.
Speaker 4: I was like like non for shure for sure. And
Speaker 4: then he was like he was like man. He was
Speaker 4: like man, I was. He was like, Man, my bad
Speaker 4: about earlier, Bro, my nigga, my niggas down there tweaking, Bro,
Speaker 4: Man your boy. He was coole at hell. Man he
Speaker 4: had on the New York had. I was just talking
Speaker 4: to him like I'm from New York like and then
Speaker 4: I was like word, and then he was like he
Speaker 4: was like man. Yeah, he was like, man, what should
Speaker 4: be doing? I'm like, man, I just I was just
Speaker 4: trying to get to the money.
Speaker 3: Bro, like some real ship beats.
Speaker 4: So I told him I was trying to get to
Speaker 4: the I turn him out, my bad him. I was
Speaker 4: trying to get to the money. And then and then
Speaker 4: he was like he was like man. He was like
Speaker 4: he was like, man, what you do. You hustled, what
Speaker 4: you do. I was like, man, Ship, I make beats
Speaker 4: and he was like, man, oh Ship. He was like, man,
Speaker 4: my cousin Gucci. Man like right for real, I'm like, nigga, Gucci,
Speaker 4: my nigga. I pull out my phone. I was showing
Speaker 4: them two numbers I got on Gucci and he like
Speaker 4: he was like, oh, ship boy, you know Gucci for real.
Speaker 4: He was like, he was like, man, hey, let me
Speaker 4: get your number. Guchi about to come home, Like, let
Speaker 4: me get your number. So boh he got my number.
Speaker 4: And then like I walked back over there to like
Speaker 4: to my guys people you know what I'm saying, and
Speaker 4: one of my brothers like these my big brothers. They
Speaker 4: tell my mom like, man, we got him. You know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, Like he's gonna be good when he
Speaker 4: came home, Like you know what I'm saying, he gonna
Speaker 4: come home. Like so he like, you gave that nigga
Speaker 4: your number. I'm like I'm like, hey, yeah, he's the
Speaker 4: man that goosey cousin. Bro. You know he was like
Speaker 4: he was like, man, fuck that nigga.
Speaker 3: Bro, Like you know what I'm saying, Like that's how
Speaker 3: niggas are crazy.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. So you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So he like, man, hell like, so I'm thinking I
Speaker 4: slipped Yeah, I'm thinking I slipped up. I'm like, man,
Speaker 4: I went back and I told walking. I'm like, man, hey, bro,
Speaker 4: I gave you the wrong.
Speaker 3: Get the number back. He took the number back.
Speaker 4: I'm like, brother, I gave you the wrong down number,
Speaker 4: and I gave him my Internet number. Like you know
Speaker 4: that's when you had dollar. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: this is yeah, yeah, so I give my Internet number.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. So I'm like, man, if
Speaker 4: it's ever meant to be whatever, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: like boom, So I just leave. I forget about the
Speaker 4: whole scenario. One day, I'm I'm not supposed to be
Speaker 4: on the phone. I'm slick gonna punishment, you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. When I grab the phone. I got my
Speaker 4: sister phone she done went to college. I got another
Speaker 4: phone in my room, plug up the internet line. She
Speaker 4: started ringing. I'm like hello, and You're like, man, nigga,
Speaker 4: you don't never pick up the phone. I'm like, man,
Speaker 4: who is like you're like man if Walker, I'm like
Speaker 4: Walker wykome who he was like, man, Gucci comes in
Speaker 4: from the club. I'm like, oh Ship, what up bro?
Speaker 4: And then so boom our first conversation. We chop it
Speaker 4: up for like thirty minutes, forty five minutes, and he
Speaker 4: telling me like he's just telling me, like, man, who
Speaker 4: with mom is? Like how.
Speaker 3: WA's whole family is gangster?
Speaker 4: Yeah? No, for real? So he tells me who his
Speaker 4: mom is. You know what I'm saying. He telling me
Speaker 4: how she managed Gucci and how she really liked the
Speaker 4: Plug and now I want Nikki.
Speaker 3: Back then before Nikki.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, it's way before Nikki, you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. So he's just telling me like she managing
Speaker 4: Gucci and like she like the Plug and everything like that.
Speaker 4: So I'm like, I'm like, damn for real. He're like hey, yeah,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. So now me and Walker
Speaker 4: staying in contact. So like he used to hit me
Speaker 4: from his mom number sometimes, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So one time I'm calling him back and then she
Speaker 4: she picked up the phone and she was like, is
Speaker 4: this Mike will I was like yeah. She was like, man, hey, man,
Speaker 4: you are you all my soign talk about Man, he
Speaker 4: keep telling me how you're gonna be the biggest producer,
Speaker 4: and you know what I'm saying, this is and that
Speaker 4: and like you know what I'm saying, Like.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Like he was like, he was like, man, he kept
Speaker 4: he kept telling me how you're gonna be the biggest
Speaker 4: producer and like how you're gonna take over the game,
Speaker 4: and how I need to meet with you. I need
Speaker 4: to meet with you, sweetie. I was like, I'm like, man, man,
Speaker 4: I'm ready, like he told me, like you the plug
Speaker 4: like man. At this time, I ow who she was
Speaker 4: my stomach touching the back and my stomach touched my back.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. So I talked to her
Speaker 4: about that about me up and now me and Walker
Speaker 4: staying in contact. Then another time he like, hey, bro,
Speaker 4: I got my I want to talk to you boom
Speaker 4: Gucci like her boy, good thing you running to my cousin. Boy,
Speaker 4: I need them beats, you know what I'm saying. Get
Speaker 4: them beats to my little cousin. Man, you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. So from there, he started having me pull
Speaker 4: up to the studio. You know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 4: like back then, I'm I'm now I'm the youngest nigga
Speaker 4: in this room. You know what I'm saying, because like
Speaker 4: it's me and Walker, we the two youngest niggas in
Speaker 4: the room. But in the room it's like Shoddy red
Speaker 4: Stove and drump my boy. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: In fact, boy, you know what I'm saying. All the
Speaker 4: producers who I look up to, I'm like, damn, like,
Speaker 4: I'm now I'm in the room with these niggas. You
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. So I remember being in there
Speaker 4: one night and Gucci was like he was like, he
Speaker 4: was like, man, he was listening to some beats and
Speaker 4: he was like, hey, bro, this is my young nigga
Speaker 4: right here. Man's my young nigga. Mike will I played
Speaker 4: them beats. Bro. I'm like yeah, I'm like, man, hey,
Speaker 4: now like you feel me like I'm in here, well here, no,
Speaker 4: these like the gladiators right here. I'm like and he
Speaker 4: like what you shy?
Speaker 5: You know?
Speaker 4: Put be you know what I'm saying. And then told
Speaker 4: you this. So I heard play on the beats boom
Speaker 4: him and his whole squad and that just freestyle and
Speaker 4: just you know what I'm saying, vibing to the beat,
Speaker 4: and then from there like you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: and then from there like that's how I met Like
Speaker 4: Ko Ko pulled me to his side. He would give
Speaker 4: me some advice on the beat, and they told him,
Speaker 4: will give me some advice on the beat. They told him,
Speaker 4: would let me come over to his crib. You know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. He had my sessions going on. I
Speaker 4: met a lot of artists at They told my mama
Speaker 4: house like you know what I'm saying, that's why he'll
Speaker 4: forever be my big brother, Like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: And and that was just me being the youngest guy
Speaker 4: in the room. But it's like they embraced me like that.
Speaker 4: But meanwhile, when Walker told his mom that when he
Speaker 4: told them that he had never heard a beat, he
Speaker 4: ain't never heard a high hat, he ain't never heard
Speaker 4: none of my.
Speaker 3: Music about you for you without hearing anything.
Speaker 4: Without hearing just going off vibe, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: Like he saw like how we transformed out there, he
Speaker 4: knowing like man, these dudes got to move. But you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. But at the same time, this dude,
Speaker 4: coolest head on the phone, like you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: And I'm sure he could like tell like the passion,
Speaker 4: like you know what I'm saying, like when I'm talking
Speaker 4: to him, And I had a vision. I always had
Speaker 4: a vision, like as a young nigga, Like you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, Like I always had a vision and
Speaker 4: like how big like this ship could actually be you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, And and and Walker was overly
Speaker 4: vouching like I'm talking about to a to a point
Speaker 4: where like, man, we might go to some Gucci Man
Speaker 4: video shoot sometime. We might go to Gucci Man video
Speaker 4: shoot sometime, and you know what I'm saying. He want
Speaker 4: to walk up in the middle of everybody and be like,
Speaker 4: hey man, this young nigga about to take over the game. Man,
Speaker 4: Like you know what I'm saying, this and that, this
Speaker 4: and that. So it's like, yeah, man, shout out, shout
Speaker 4: out to Walker, shout out to death. You know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Yes, So you know, we went twenty minutes to suit
Speaker 1: you a glass and we wanted to make sure.
Speaker 4: The glass talk to that man. Know what, Let me
Speaker 4: tell you something, But.
Speaker 1: Let me just tell you something, brother, what you have done,
Speaker 1: what you have overcame, what you have provided to the game.
Speaker 1: We got to give your flowers, brother, like, like we gotta,
Speaker 1: we got we got to get your flowers. Brother, like,
Speaker 1: you are really one of the best producers ever made it.
Speaker 3: So we want to get you.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, gave you better than they because it comes
Speaker 1: from our people. But we want to tell you how
Speaker 1: much you mean to us, man, Like I mean to
Speaker 1: the game period is You're a legend, legend, you are icon.
Speaker 3: You you you you are one of the.
Speaker 1: Best producers out there, if not the best producer out.
Speaker 3: There, And we want to give you your flowers.
Speaker 4: Man, appreciate that. Appreciate that. I appreciate that. It's definitely
Speaker 4: going up in the compound. Man.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, And and I can't lie every time I
Speaker 1: see you, like I got a beef for you, and
Speaker 1: I was.
Speaker 6: Like, damn yeah yeah.
Speaker 4: But also also also we gotta we gotta get our
Speaker 4: drinking game on with them.
Speaker 3: Are we ready for quick time, y'all?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, no already.
Speaker 1: Now, if you don't want to drink, you don't have to.
Speaker 1: You can sit or you can sit by the way.
Speaker 1: You have just won Drink Champs most expensive. Patty Lavelle
Speaker 1: had it for a second.
Speaker 3: No, she she ordered.
Speaker 1: Camis and then I and I ordered her office.
Speaker 3: But when you ordered this ship with whatever whatever the.
Speaker 4: Name that.
Speaker 3: The other one thirty two thousands.
Speaker 4: I ain't gonna lie. I ain't gonna lie. Man. You
Speaker 4: you are, you are what you and you are what
Speaker 4: you consume. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: So you're killing in.
Speaker 1: We got a officially, Mike will is the most expensive
Speaker 1: Nigo on Drink Champs.
Speaker 3: Yo, hold on, you're gonna compete with relaxed Teddy Rolly
Speaker 3: came very close. Teddy Body came a humble production budget.
Speaker 4: Now this shot, this ship is a big This ship
Speaker 4: is a big platform. Man. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: and and and and it's all about you know, taste
Speaker 4: palace man, y'all got go by that we keep keep them.
Speaker 3: Yes, we all hate the spade driven.
Speaker 1: But do you I don't even know how to pronounce
Speaker 1: this ship.
Speaker 4: You ordered.
Speaker 7: Bumba bro that's the type of that's the type of red.
Speaker 4: Okay, so where's that from? This specific one? I don't
Speaker 4: know where it's from.
Speaker 1: Talk that one kind of ship because no, no, he's
Speaker 1: very expensive.
Speaker 3: I said I can hang out with this nigga, and
Speaker 3: he wanted he would it.
Speaker 4: I was like, this is my type of Yeah, okay,
Speaker 4: break where's that coming from? This one right here, come
Speaker 4: from Italy, Italy.
Speaker 3: Okay, listen, I can hang.
Speaker 4: With you all day for sure. I have you ever
Speaker 4: been in Napa Valley?
Speaker 1: Absolutely? Yeah, absolutely, I'm gonna opens one. Dude, I'm a chemist. Dude,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm all that, I'm.
Speaker 4: With all that.
Speaker 3: So cool.
Speaker 4: We got we got, we got the album, the joint,
Speaker 4: we got the list.
Speaker 3: So you got to explain your game. This is our
Speaker 3: drinking game. We're gonna give you two options right here.
Speaker 5: You picked one, we don't drink one of the options
Speaker 5: you say both both are neither, Like you really don't
Speaker 5: want to answer, you want to be politically correct. Then
Speaker 5: we all take a shot or we take a drink.
Speaker 5: But really it's about stories. It's really about bringing up
Speaker 5: names and places and things.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's not.
Speaker 3: It's not about pinning anybody against each other.
Speaker 8: Yea.
Speaker 3: So the first one is.
Speaker 4: I don't want no smoke. Future young thug, Come on, man,
Speaker 4: y'all popping up like that, you're taking we got, Yeah,
Speaker 4: I got, I gotta, I gotta, I gotta say both.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, because a drink. Yeah, because
Speaker 4: of all of what they all of what they did
Speaker 4: for the game, and and you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: how they push it forward, like like it was real.
Speaker 4: It was real similar meeting both of them. You know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, Because it was like it was like
Speaker 4: it was real similar meeting both of them, because it's
Speaker 4: like like I had my future, like I said earlier,
Speaker 4: like with Rocco. You know what I'm saying, Future and
Speaker 4: Rock Shakestage situation ship for real?
Speaker 3: I really hold a f BG.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: It was crazy. Sorry to cut you off.
Speaker 1: I met Future and Rocco in the same exact place.
Speaker 1: I can't say weird because I think they still hang
Speaker 1: out there. So I met Rocco one day there and
Speaker 1: then I met Future the next day.
Speaker 4: It was crazy, Yeah, non for real, but we was
Speaker 4: like I will always see Future, like we'll be in
Speaker 4: the same clubs or whatnot. But like one day I
Speaker 4: was holding that Roco like, man, bro, what's up? Man?
Speaker 4: Like man, you know what I'm saying. You need to
Speaker 4: steal a rap bro, Like I got some ship for you.
Speaker 4: He was like, man, look man, I'm putting the focus
Speaker 4: on you know what I'm saying, my guy right here? Man,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. Yeah, he was like, man,
Speaker 4: he was like, man, this dude next, So me in
Speaker 4: future had exchange numbers right then. Then like a night
Speaker 4: or two later, I was in Magic and.
Speaker 3: Then like I was a city yeah club.
Speaker 4: Yeah for sure. And and that's you know, that's we
Speaker 4: in Atlanta. Like you record the song just to go
Speaker 4: to Magic, just to just to play it, you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. Like that's like, can your ship play
Speaker 4: at the Grammy? He's like, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So it's like for he heal. So it's like one
Speaker 4: day we imagine and and like I'm I'm telling Esco,
Speaker 4: this is my first time me and Esco like I'm yeah.
Speaker 4: So I'm like, I'm like, man, he went to jail
Speaker 4: right years later, you know what I'm saying. But but
Speaker 4: like when when I when I when I was talking
Speaker 4: to him mom at this specific time, I was like, man,
Speaker 4: a bro, I'm about to go on a crazy run.
Speaker 4: I'm like, man, I'm about have going a crazy run
Speaker 4: working with every artist in the city. Bro, I'm at
Speaker 4: every studio every night, like I want to be able
Speaker 4: to come through here and like and and like play
Speaker 4: these records and break these records, like I want to
Speaker 4: fuck with you. Whatever you're fucking with, I'm fucking with,
Speaker 4: like you know what I'm saying, like off the rip,
Speaker 4: And so he was like, man, hey, bro, man, the
Speaker 4: artists I'm focusing on right now is future. You know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. And I was like, I'm like a word.
Speaker 4: And then he was like he was like yeah, like
Speaker 4: you know about future. I was like, man, that's the
Speaker 4: one who got I'm like, what's so he got here? Like, Man,
Speaker 4: you heard Mexico Lingo. I was like, hell yeah, I was.
Speaker 4: I remember True Life.
Speaker 3: Talking to us about future, but he caught a meat
Speaker 3: had m m. Yeah. He was down with the Dungeon
Speaker 3: family at that time.
Speaker 7: Before that or this is after that, you know, this
Speaker 7: was this has been after that and then so so
Speaker 7: he was like, man, Mexico Lingo and I was like, man,
Speaker 7: I had been hearing that and Platinum and and and Magic.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, like between those two clubs,
Speaker 4: Like I was hearing that, like like I was hearing
Speaker 4: that overly, so I was like, oh, like yo, no,
Speaker 4: I fuck with that Mexico Lingo. And I was trying
Speaker 4: to figure out who that was from the city, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. So then boom, he was like, man,
Speaker 4: that's Future, you know what I'm saying, Like that's the
Speaker 4: artist I'm focused on. I'm like, man, ships line the
Speaker 4: session up, you feel me?
Speaker 3: This off DJ.
Speaker 4: So that ended up being the second person that like
Speaker 4: within like that week that was talking about like you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, Mike Will and Mike Will in Future.
Speaker 4: So boom we had set up the session and one
Speaker 4: thing I already had knew about Pluto was like, man,
Speaker 4: all right, man Broke got an out of pocket flow
Speaker 4: and he done to do like different shit like you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, Mexico Lingo and watch this Like
Speaker 4: those were my like introductions, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: like to like but I had heard his music before,
Speaker 4: but I ain't know it was him, Like but like nah,
Speaker 4: I know, like okay, this is this is bro you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. So from then it was just
Speaker 4: like I'm in the studio every day, every day. You
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying every song on Dirty Spike Streets
Speaker 4: calling true story. You know what I'm saying, honest, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, Like like Pluto, you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. Astronaut said all that like every day. You
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. So it was like it was
Speaker 4: like that that right there was like a groundbreaking time.
Speaker 4: And then I remember, like you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: like like all that was happening in Me and Pluto
Speaker 4: were like the young and bringing the cool and bringing
Speaker 4: them forward, pushing sound in like the out of pocket
Speaker 4: like sound like for like we're like owning that space,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. And then I remember, like
Speaker 4: this time. Now we're moving around now bro into put
Speaker 4: on tour, Like now I'm working with all kinds of
Speaker 4: different artists. I'm l a a little bit more in
Speaker 4: New York, a little bit more Miami, Like I'm moving
Speaker 4: around now. And then I go back to the city
Speaker 4: and then Gucci telling me about young Thug you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, and go like, Bro, I'm telling you
Speaker 4: when you meet this dude right here, Bro, this dude
Speaker 4: is a star. Bro, Like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And what was the first record you in future when
Speaker 1: you got together that you was like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: this is it.
Speaker 4: Uh dirty dirty s Frike was the first time that
Speaker 4: Fight was the first time drink that fright was the
Speaker 4: first song that Fight was the first song that we
Speaker 4: that we did.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, that's your first song.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, the first song we did. You know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. And you know anything, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: You want to put the lane with it, if you
Speaker 4: want to put Kanye whatever you want to do. You
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 8: You know what I'm saying. For the want me a lot,
Speaker 8: I was like, shit, that was.
Speaker 4: The first song that then like ain't nowhere around it.
Speaker 4: I feel like that was just like that was like
Speaker 4: when we when we knew like we that's when like
Speaker 4: the radio was playing that joint for thirty minutes straight,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, and like running it back.
Speaker 4: They were like excited about it, like coming off of
Speaker 4: that True Story project, you know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 4: ain't away around it was like it like broke them all.
Speaker 4: But then like when we did like the night we
Speaker 4: did Turn on the lights and never end in the
Speaker 4: same night, you know what I'm saying, And like and
Speaker 4: I ain't gonna lie, you know what I'm saying. Like
Speaker 4: it was similar to like ain't nowhere around it because
Speaker 4: he did, ain't nowhere around it and Tony Montana, damn
Speaker 4: there in the same night. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Future is my hero, the future of the man bro.
Speaker 9: Future we got going, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: We like with like with like thug too. It was
Speaker 4: like was another one where it was like, man, this dude,
Speaker 4: this dude like was the first person to make me
Speaker 4: feel like disconnected from the city, like because I was
Speaker 4: always the young and like, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: So I'm the youngest one in the room. So we
Speaker 4: always bringing like the whether it's me and walking me
Speaker 4: and future me, and like you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: Like we were bringing like the young, the new, the
Speaker 4: new ship. And then it's like now I'm moving them
Speaker 4: outside of the city. Been going for a little bit.
Speaker 4: Then I come back and I meet this dude thumb
Speaker 4: and I'm like, damn, like hold on, he got a
Speaker 4: whole new lingo, he got a whole new sway, he
Speaker 4: got a whole new and then I'm hearing like, what
Speaker 4: are you doing with like eight away my field? What
Speaker 4: are you doing with like Sonny, what are you doing
Speaker 4: with Metro? You know what I'm saying, Yeah, you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. Like, and I'm hearing that, I'm like,
Speaker 4: I'm like, damn, they come with a new wave. I'm like,
Speaker 4: that's hard, Like they created like a new wave, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, because like like like that's that's
Speaker 4: it's tough to do because there's so many creatives and
Speaker 4: so many like like dope creative people coming out of Atlanta.
Speaker 4: It's like and then in that twenty five is like
Speaker 4: a big ass pot like a gumbo pie, and you
Speaker 4: gotta be original, you know what I'm saying, Like to
Speaker 4: like really like like go, you gotta be bringing like
Speaker 4: something new, like for your ship to cut through, and
Speaker 4: you gotta put up like X amount of points and
Speaker 4: X amount of hours. So it's like, you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying, Like when when you start seeing them new
Speaker 4: waves form, like you you you start you start seeing it,
Speaker 4: So it's like, man, salute to both of them. Guys. Man,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying Pluto and Young Thuff for
Speaker 4: being originators and taking the city and the sound as
Speaker 4: far as like, you know what I'm saying, they took it.
Speaker 4: You feel me and taking it.
Speaker 3: Expected them both? Right, Okay Gucci or Walker.
Speaker 4: Man, Yeah, try get me joint.
Speaker 3: You're gonna get yourself drump because.
Speaker 4: You know we're gonna we're gonna say, we're gonna say
Speaker 4: what we're talking about.
Speaker 3: Whatever you like, better friends, we can take a shot.
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna lie to you. You might have had
Speaker 3: the best twirl on drinking Champs history. The way he
Speaker 3: just working.
Speaker 4: That's why I know you know that.
Speaker 1: But Valley when he said that, But Valley, he twirled.
Speaker 4: This is an expensive nigga here, listen. Yeah, we gotta
Speaker 4: say both.
Speaker 3: Okay, both what poker d m X cool. That's a
Speaker 3: good one resting piece of both.
Speaker 1: Bro.
Speaker 4: I'm an indecisive nigga. Bro, let's just keep drinking. Drink, drink.
Speaker 4: That's what I can pick the shot, bud. Yeah, I
Speaker 4: was literally trying to be both of them.
Speaker 3: Okay, you want me to take this?
Speaker 10: You take this, Ladies, you know I'm scared of Girlrihanna,
Speaker 10: take a sht.
Speaker 4: Pour it up performation.
Speaker 3: God for real, but I google that.
Speaker 4: I was like this, nigga did formation?
Speaker 3: Your catalog is wild? I didn't.
Speaker 4: I don't even realize that.
Speaker 1: Listen, I listen. I'm taking a shot for your catalog. Listen,
Speaker 1: I'm taking a shot for your catalog.
Speaker 5: Congratulations, brother, Like your catalog is the type of catalog
Speaker 5: that you could take a break for nine years, you
Speaker 5: break continuously in everybody's ears that you never left.
Speaker 4: That's real. It's an agent like Barolo's agent. And hey,
Speaker 4: this is this is a thirty year Kanyak that we're
Speaker 4: sipping on.
Speaker 3: Let's let's talk about the Kanye.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a thirty year Kanye. Don know, it just happened.
Speaker 4: Just happened. It just happened. It just happened.
Speaker 3: It just happened.
Speaker 4: Man. So this was make this is premiss promis.
Speaker 11: Yeah, this a little suspicious ship, No, for sure, this
Speaker 11: is this is your ship.
Speaker 4: Man. This is like it's like it's like it's my
Speaker 4: it's my ship as far as like like you fuck
Speaker 4: with it, I fuck with it organically, fuck with it.
Speaker 4: One of my one of my family. You know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. They came with this like like in two
Speaker 4: thousand and three, So that's twenty three years ago, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. So, like and there was already
Speaker 4: aged eight years back then, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So it's thirty one years you know what I'm saying, Kanyak.
Speaker 4: But if you even if you see the drinks on
Speaker 4: us video whatever, like it's in a lot of videos. Man,
Speaker 4: we've we've been drinking this something to someone to love
Speaker 4: video and all that kind of stuff. You know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying from this, you know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 4: you got for the guys and the girl. Yeah, it's
Speaker 4: the first pink This's the first pink con. You know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. This ain't like like New Baux or anything.
Speaker 4: It's not like a liquord. It's like proof. Yeah, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. So it's like yeah for sure. Yeah. Man,
Speaker 4: So we're sipping on this age age up there. Okay,
Speaker 4: you know.
Speaker 3: Race shwimm it.
Speaker 4: Outcasts, No, man, we gotta go, we gotta go. Damn.
Speaker 4: That's not even easy, man. That's the section over there.
Speaker 3: Dominican and the Columbian section make the question.
Speaker 4: They made the question that some Cold Brothers man taking
Speaker 4: a shot to that we got Let's take a shot, man,
Speaker 4: Let's take a shot man. It ain't it ain't nothing
Speaker 4: come before the Shrim. But you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: thank you for thank you the outcast, thank you to
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, Hypnotized Noise Dungeon fan for
Speaker 4: the inspiration to even for us, even like for me
Speaker 4: as a producer, and you know what I'm saying, for
Speaker 4: us even kicking the door and like you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying, take it, like push your limits, you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, Like for real, what.
Speaker 3: Was the thing I heard with them? The labels named
Speaker 3: after them backwards.
Speaker 4: And yeah so but yeah tell us, yeah, so my label,
Speaker 4: my production company is Ear Drummers, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: And then to turn into a record label, and like
Speaker 4: Shrim was already like they were already trying to do
Speaker 4: like songwriting, sweight leaves, make beats, like you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. Like so they were already part of the
Speaker 4: squad and they were messing with my brother's p Nasty
Speaker 4: and Mars and and Boom like like this one Jimmy,
Speaker 4: like I had like man, I had like thir teen
Speaker 4: songs on the radio at this time. Man, Jimmy I
Speaker 4: been telling me like, man, you need to have your
Speaker 4: own label, you know what I'm saying, so you can
Speaker 4: put out your own music. Man.
Speaker 3: Yeah, takes care of producers so much for real.
Speaker 4: And he loved that and it was like, man, I
Speaker 4: want to I want to give you a label deal.
Speaker 4: And it took me two years.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So my manager is Jimmy Iven. Nephew, you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. J Okay, yes, yep. So that's the homie.
Speaker 4: So he introduced me to Jimmy Iveen. When Jimmy Iven,
Speaker 4: when me and him met and like we chopped it up.
Speaker 4: It was just like, man, Jimmy Iven just took me
Speaker 4: under his wing and just was like, man, boom whenever
Speaker 4: you in time you come over here. Like he loved it,
Speaker 4: like just feel game, like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Brought up. He's a great guy.
Speaker 4: So he was like, he was like, man, you really
Speaker 4: need to start your own record label because you just yeah,
Speaker 4: like man, you're essentially just out here inventing the sound
Speaker 4: and just giving it to like all these different like
Speaker 4: companies or whatnot. You know what I'm saying. And it's
Speaker 4: like they're not even cut you in on your invention,
Speaker 4: Like you know what I'm saying. So you're you're inventing,
Speaker 4: You're inventing the sound, You're inventing somebody, you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. And it's like, here, take this, this is
Speaker 4: all we have, Like take this for your invention. And
Speaker 4: it's like, you know what I'm saying. He made me
Speaker 4: understand that and a whole other way. So I was like,
Speaker 4: I'm like, damn, Like you're right. So it took me
Speaker 4: two years to grasp it because I always said I
Speaker 4: wanted a record label. But at the same time, it's
Speaker 4: like when you got when you're right here, sitting right
Speaker 4: here in the same room with Jimmy I being here
Speaker 4: like man, I'm trying to get your label deal. It's like, damn,
Speaker 4: do I'm having so much successful doing what I'm doing?
Speaker 4: Do I want to take a.
Speaker 3: Different clots and that this is the actually this is.
Speaker 4: The real thing. Like now you're about you want to
Speaker 4: take that on. Now it's a whole different like position,
Speaker 4: Like it's a whole different hat. It's like you're an
Speaker 4: executive now, you know what I'm saying, Like producing is
Speaker 4: one thing you're doing a service. And then now you're
Speaker 4: an executive, you know what I'm saying. Then you're an
Speaker 4: executive producing. Now you're inventing something. And then you have
Speaker 4: to create this product and then package it all the.
Speaker 3: Way up and operation.
Speaker 4: Yeah, to a point where people consume it and are
Speaker 4: happy with it, you know what I'm saying, Because how
Speaker 4: much suff do we consume and be like, man, this
Speaker 4: ship trash? You feel me? So now that's what you're
Speaker 4: trying to do, you know what I'm saying. And so
Speaker 4: it's like it's a it's a it's a totally it's
Speaker 4: a totally different ball game. So it took me two
Speaker 4: years to be like, man, you know what, Man, we're
Speaker 4: gonna do this ship, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 4: P and Mars they were already rocking up with with
Speaker 4: swaying Gym, you know what I'm saying, And they were
Speaker 4: already over there cooking up crazy stuff. But P and
Speaker 4: Mars would be at a lot of those meetings too,
Speaker 4: so they knowing the temperature too, Like, man, were about
Speaker 4: to do it, label do it at some point, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. And then we also had a
Speaker 4: few more artists that we were looking at at the time,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, And artists are bubbling and
Speaker 4: it's like, man, you know what, Man, we want to
Speaker 4: try to sign them, or we want to try to
Speaker 4: sign them. We're trying to sign sign anybody because I'm knowing, like, man,
Speaker 4: I'm trying to take this sign and I'm trying to
Speaker 4: push it as far as possible. I'm trying to bring
Speaker 4: as many new artists to the game, and I'm trying
Speaker 4: to work with the biggest artists in the game. Again,
Speaker 4: I'm a new sign and like get them to sound
Speaker 4: that that that comes from us, like you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying, and like just changed the game with like
Speaker 4: that new sound, like you know what I'm saying, which
Speaker 4: you feel me like, So so yeah, man, like ended
Speaker 4: up long story short, man, y'all got me drinking. So
Speaker 4: I'm just.
Speaker 3: The next question. But I got you.
Speaker 4: But but so it's like it's like it's the name Flip.
Speaker 4: So we go to the studio. We had the studio
Speaker 4: one day and I tell I tell, I asked Jimmy
Speaker 4: and Sway and I'm like, man, because I had one
Speaker 4: day I had wrote down like because I wanted to do.
Speaker 4: Like I was always thinking about the expansion of ear drummers,
Speaker 4: So I was like, man, we got to have like
Speaker 4: a live rock and roll side because we already own it,
Speaker 4: like like this hip hop like trap side, you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. So it's like, what is the ear
Speaker 4: drummers spelled backwards? I was thinking about Oprah and Harpo,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. And then I was like, man, okay,
Speaker 4: ship man, what is it if we spelled ear drummers backwards?
Speaker 4: Man Race Stremmer, Like that's hard. So I was gonna
Speaker 4: make that life the live, the live alternative side, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. And then when I met them,
Speaker 4: I'm like, man, the dude is the coolest dudes on earth.
Speaker 4: Like like they just they just walking and just making
Speaker 4: bangers after bankers, after bankers, after bankers, like swily making
Speaker 4: hard at beats, like you know what I'm saying. Seeing
Speaker 4: him like cook up no tight and like they I
Speaker 4: got tears when I hurt no tight, like you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, and everything like that, it's like I'm
Speaker 4: seeing I'm like, man, these dudes can make anything cool
Speaker 4: on earth, you know what I'm saying. Hey, Hey, what
Speaker 4: y'all thinking about the name Ray Stremmer for the group name?
Speaker 4: And then they're like Race Stremer, what's that. I'm like, man,
Speaker 4: that's the ear drummers backwards, Like oh, hell yeah, nigga, nigga,
Speaker 4: that's squad, Like hey, yeah, let's do it, you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. And then they're like, man, hey, you're
Speaker 4: shrimp life. I'm like, see just they already flipped.
Speaker 3: All right, excellent Kendrick or Drake.
Speaker 4: Got gonna do this, damn all right. So I'm gonna
Speaker 4: just I'm gonna just go ahead, and I'm gonna just
Speaker 4: go ahead and go Kendrick, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: And you know what I'm saying. And I want to
Speaker 4: salute Drake for you know what I'm saying, being somebody
Speaker 4: who who always like showed love from the beginning, Like
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. He was like one of
Speaker 4: the first like major artists like go on Twitter and
Speaker 4: just tweet like Mike Will made it, you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. And then he remixed Ship and then him
Speaker 4: the Future had for real, you know what I'm saying
Speaker 4: on my track and then like even even with with
Speaker 4: Pluto early days, you know what I'm saying, going on
Speaker 4: the road with with with with Drake, it was like,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, Drake always showed love, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. And then it's like with Kendrick,
Speaker 4: it was like me and Kendrick just had like a
Speaker 4: little bit like more like personal close relationship in the
Speaker 4: sense of like literally every time, like like the first
Speaker 4: time me and Kendrick met, it was like two too
Speaker 4: much records that I could look at. You produced for
Speaker 4: Kendred for real, but you know, it took us seven years.
Speaker 5: It took them a while, y'all. But y'all have been
Speaker 5: interacting but just never music.
Speaker 4: So we met. We met Ryan like twenty twenty eleven
Speaker 4: school Boy Q introducers Q. That's my brother. We had
Speaker 4: already did, Yeah, we had already did my Hate and
Speaker 4: Joint and we did my Hat and Joint. And then
Speaker 4: they were in Atlanta one day and he was like, Man,
Speaker 4: I need to link you with this dude that's on
Speaker 4: my label. Man, he about to be the next biggest thing,
Speaker 4: Like I'm like for real. And then he was like
Speaker 4: I'm like what's his name here? Like Kendrick and I
Speaker 4: was like ship. I'm like, man, man, tell me what studio.
Speaker 4: So he told me to go to stink on you.
Speaker 4: I got to stink on you. I'm in there with Kendrick. Man.
Speaker 4: I'm playing a bunch of beats in Atlanta stink.
Speaker 3: Only Yeah yeah Early Kendrick.
Speaker 4: Yeah. So I'm playing them. I'm playing them a bunch
Speaker 4: of beats. He take a bunch of beats. So I
Speaker 4: was like, I just put him to outside. I ain't
Speaker 4: really know him like this, and at this time, like
Speaker 4: certain people were like leaking my beats or like leaking
Speaker 4: like certain songs like produce my mic well this and
Speaker 4: this and that. You know what I'm saying. I don't
Speaker 4: really know him any different than anybody else. So I
Speaker 4: was like, man, I'm like, bro, let me how let
Speaker 4: you right correeat. So then we step out of the studio.
Speaker 4: I'm like, hey, bro, look man like, Bro, I'm gonna
Speaker 4: give you all these beats, bro, and you just gotta man,
Speaker 4: you just gotta give me a word. Bro. You're not
Speaker 4: gonna lead, nohing, Bro, just on lead now, you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. And then he started laughing. He was like, hey, bro,
Speaker 4: I fuck with you money, Bro, and we and we
Speaker 4: go in the studio. He was like, hey, bro, you
Speaker 4: know this nigga just pulled me out and said his
Speaker 4: nigga just pulled me out and said, hey bro, man,
Speaker 4: hey man, I'm gonna give you my beats, but nigga,
Speaker 4: don't leave my ship. Nigga. Fuck with this nigga. You
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. And then ever since then it
Speaker 4: was like, man, we were locked in, and like every
Speaker 4: time he would come to Atlanta, like you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying, Like as soon as he laying, pull on
Speaker 4: here on my phone. You know what I'm saying, I'll
Speaker 4: pull up on them playing my ganga beats him a
Speaker 4: gangab beasts anytime, my man la. As soon as I
Speaker 4: laying I'm hitting their phone, I'm pulling up on them saying,
Speaker 4: think were linking up. You know what I'm saying. You
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying is.
Speaker 3: That how Humble was made, How humble was me.
Speaker 4: So that was like just to find we.
Speaker 3: Don't get out of there. We could go back to them, but.
Speaker 4: That was the foundation. That's how the foundation was, Like
Speaker 4: how Humble was made. It was like okay, now, good kid,
Speaker 4: Mad City and Pimple Butterfly Drop, and I'm like, Damn,
Speaker 4: I ain't made neither one of these. I know I
Speaker 4: didne gave him at least five hundred and sixty five beats,
Speaker 4: like you know what I'm saying, or something like crazy,
Speaker 4: like I didn't. I didn't get this man a lot
Speaker 4: of beats, you know what I'm saying. So I had
Speaker 4: to just ask one of those already there though, that
Speaker 4: boy sucking them tru.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, We're one of those beats already.
Speaker 3: Did he already have him? No?
Speaker 4: So he was like so he was like, So he
Speaker 4: was like, man, I asked him. I'm like, Bro, Man,
Speaker 4: for real, Bro, I'm giving you the wrong beats. Like
Speaker 4: I'm hearing the albums and I can hear that gave
Speaker 4: him to that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he keeps changing from that album to the an
Speaker 5: album change, so this album change.
Speaker 4: So when I'm hearing the album, I'm like, I'm hearing
Speaker 4: that I did give him the wrong beats, you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. So I'm like, hey, bro, keep giving
Speaker 4: me the wrong beats. If you just give me like
Speaker 4: a direction you want to go, man, I feel like
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. He was like no, no,
Speaker 4: you ain't giving me the wrong beats, Like all them
Speaker 4: beats you give me hard like like I just know
Speaker 4: when I when I when I go in with you,
Speaker 4: I want to just lock in with you and I
Speaker 4: want to God, damn, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 4: when we were starting down, it was like I feel
Speaker 4: like that was the early stages. Like with Kendrick, you
Speaker 4: never know, you never really know what's going on, Like
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, he's on his planet, and
Speaker 4: then you know what I'm saying when he summits you.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Like we call you in
Speaker 4: and then it's like man, he really had, he really
Speaker 4: had called me and was like, man, yo, you're in La.
Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm in LA. And he pulled up to
Speaker 4: the crib like like early, like nine in the morning,
Speaker 4: ten in the morning. Was over there like damn there
Speaker 4: all day going through all kind of beats. Took a
Speaker 4: whole bunch of beats, you know what I'm saying. Then
Speaker 4: he hit me back here like man, I pull up
Speaker 4: to the studio, pull up to the studio with him.
Speaker 4: He let me hear Humble, DNA and XXX. He had
Speaker 4: just started xxx. I'm like, god, dang, you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying, Like, man recorded, yeah, humble DNA, and you
Speaker 4: didn't know. You didn't know that he recorded it.
Speaker 3: He gave me the beat.
Speaker 4: Yeah. But he was telling me he was going in
Speaker 4: like he'll send me like a little video on his
Speaker 4: phone and stuff like that. So then when we when
Speaker 4: I get to the studio and I hear that, he's like, man,
Speaker 4: I just want to finish this DNA. He was like, man,
Speaker 4: you got your you got your computer, you got your
Speaker 4: beat machine. I'm like, hell yeah, So I put out
Speaker 4: my computer and then and then he was like then
Speaker 4: he was telling me how you wanted to wrap on there,
Speaker 4: and he was like, man, I just want to hear
Speaker 4: like what kind of beach you'll dude like around you around,
Speaker 4: like this kind of flow, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So now I do the second half of DNA. You
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. And then it's just loud. I'm like, man,
Speaker 4: this ship so out of here, bruh. So now I
Speaker 4: was like, we're excited about DNA. So he telling me like, man, well, humble,
Speaker 4: he like humble, Man, Like I love this song. I
Speaker 4: noticed a slot I know this a but I don't
Speaker 4: know if it fit like Damn necessarily, Like I got DNA,
Speaker 4: DNA need to be my single, Like I'm just snapping
Speaker 4: on that joint. We knew DNA was just hard, but
Speaker 4: he knew Humble was like he knew it was gonna
Speaker 4: be a commercial. He knew it was gonna be a slap,
Speaker 4: but he 'tof he wanted to put it out, like
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. And so he was like, man,
Speaker 4: you're about to drop Ransom too, right, And I was
Speaker 4: like yeah. He was like, man, he was like, you
Speaker 4: might as well take Humble for Ransom too. I was like,
Speaker 4: I'm like, hey, I'm like, Bro's supposed to be on
Speaker 4: your album? No, no, he just he just says this.
Speaker 4: I'm like he was dead serious. I'm just like, Bro, look,
Speaker 4: I ain't gonna lie to you. Man. I appreciate that, Bro,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, but I feel like I'm
Speaker 4: stealing if I do that. Bro, Like, man, this song
Speaker 4: this sounds so big, bro, and it's gonna be some
Speaker 4: much bigger. Did you know what I'm saying. I'm like,
Speaker 4: gonna be somewhere bigger. You put it out, bro. Man,
Speaker 4: I'm like, Man, you yeah. He was like, I'm like, man,
Speaker 4: you got it. He was like, Man, I don't know.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna sleep on it. Da da da, And next thing,
Speaker 4: you know, hit me the next day. He was like, Man,
Speaker 4: send me whatever song you want me to get on
Speaker 4: for your album. He was like, man, Top just said
Speaker 4: the same thing you said.
Speaker 5: Like.
Speaker 4: He was like, man, he was like, Man, what you
Speaker 4: think which one you think should be the single? Like
Speaker 4: Humble DNA. I was like, Man, depending on when you drop,
Speaker 4: Like you know what I'm saying, You just dropping a
Speaker 4: single and then you're gonna drop the album a little later,
Speaker 4: Go Humble. You know what I'm saying, you are if
Speaker 4: you're gonna drop the single, then the album same week, Man,
Speaker 4: go DNA. You know what I'm saying. Got that shot value.
Speaker 4: So he ended up shooting both videos. He dropped Humble,
Speaker 4: ship went through the roof, and then a couple of
Speaker 4: weeks later he dropped the album, and then he had
Speaker 4: the video for DNA, and then Humble was number one,
Speaker 4: and then DNA was number two, Hot one hundred and
Speaker 4: that ship just both for like Humble double diamond and
Speaker 4: DNA is fucking fifteen times platinum. Man, told you that
Speaker 4: appreciate that we're toasting it that I told you that
Speaker 4: you gotta watching chips sound bro, I ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 3: These just fantastic. Who those they feel vegan? They are vegan? Yeah,
Speaker 3: definitely veganis real talk.
Speaker 5: Uh So, just to be sure, you said Kendrick on
Speaker 5: that one, right, we drinking or not? You know we're drinking,
Speaker 5: Get a boy, any reason.
Speaker 4: That's just that's just more who raised me? Like you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. I was super young when both
Speaker 4: of them came out, you know what I'm saying. But
Speaker 4: like Pansy and Bonn b like major influences. Like for
Speaker 4: sure it's some pizzas, some piece of pounds, real.
Speaker 3: Talk, organized noise or beats by the pound.
Speaker 4: I damn that's crazy. I gotta organized noials though, Man,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. Recipes We wait for real
Speaker 4: major influence, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: And recipes Bush Bill Fro ghetto boys too, you know,
Speaker 3: for sure, Mike jack or Prince Michael Jackson. What you
Speaker 3: motherfuckers write it? Like?
Speaker 4: Man, y'all y'all have some cold like that's what y'all
Speaker 4: want to get.
Speaker 1: That's we always ask three chances, and we love we
Speaker 1: love Michael.
Speaker 3: We like the stories of either like the legends that
Speaker 3: made Little Purple.
Speaker 4: You know, you know what's crazy, like during this journey
Speaker 4: right here, like I've been I've been trying to like
Speaker 4: figure out like like like print, like like Purple Rain
Speaker 4: and like Thriller, like them nine songs journeys like man,
Speaker 4: both of them songs were like major influences. Like how
Speaker 4: those songs, how those projects were so short, but it
Speaker 4: went on the fucking journey, like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So I don't know, Man, I don't know. I might,
Speaker 4: I might go let you finished. I'm going Mike, Oh,
Speaker 4: I'm so, I'm not gonna lie to you.
Speaker 3: We don't know. Like they're beef. Their beef is historial beef.
Speaker 3: Oh man, crazy beef.
Speaker 5: We've been hearing all kinds of stories trying to run
Speaker 5: over Michael Jackson.
Speaker 3: Oh, like running off the road, trying to run him
Speaker 3: off the road.
Speaker 4: No, no, no.
Speaker 1: So So this is the reason why we don't we
Speaker 1: don't never answer this. It is because we always like
Speaker 1: get new information that happens, and we find out that
Speaker 1: first off, Prince, it's a meaning.
Speaker 3: That's what Michael Jackson said about Princess.
Speaker 1: Michaelright, Sorry, we didn't know this story. You're ready, You're ready.
Speaker 1: Farrell calls me one day, Oh the super Yeah. So
Speaker 1: Farrell calls me one day and he's like, Laurie, I
Speaker 1: kind of like need a favor for me.
Speaker 4: So I'm like, what the fuck?
Speaker 3: What are we talking?
Speaker 5: Mom?
Speaker 3: Does Farrell needed a favor for me? Right?
Speaker 1: But he says, I said Michael Jackson a bunch of beats?
Speaker 1: He said, that's not what normal will rap on. Michael
Speaker 1: Jackson wanted to rap on super dugs.
Speaker 3: What what? So Farrell said him a bunch, like.
Speaker 4: You know, one of them. He like, Michael Jackson joints.
Speaker 4: I want to nor.
Speaker 3: Morel hit me. I'm like, holy moly, Walker Moly.
Speaker 1: So Barrell hits me and I actually, I don't know
Speaker 1: if I ever said this part of the story. I
Speaker 1: actually picked out five beats for Michael. Yeah, no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: not for Michael. For Farrell.
Speaker 4: Was like, yo, just pick out these five beats, and
Speaker 4: I actually.
Speaker 3: For him to give it to Michael.
Speaker 4: I don't I don't ever know if I've ever.
Speaker 3: Does that make sense? Like, I don't know if I
Speaker 3: ever did that, like, I just it was like, you
Speaker 3: know what, bro, you're my g I got you and
Speaker 3: I did it.
Speaker 1: So I don't know if that was ever for that,
Speaker 1: but that's one of my best stories in Michael Jackson. Jackson,
Speaker 1: one of my fucking beats.
Speaker 3: You. Thank god there wasn't no social media back then.
Speaker 4: Imagine back then it was fucking social media.
Speaker 3: God, man, we need to.
Speaker 4: I would have been like, because I believe Michael Jackson
Speaker 4: was a gangster.
Speaker 3: For sure, why you got quiet? I mean, I don't
Speaker 3: know for sure.
Speaker 5: I think Michael Jackson, but he did call Prince of
Speaker 5: meanis why don't he just square up with them?
Speaker 4: Man? He got too much to lose. He got too much.
Speaker 4: You know what's I lose? See that gangsterday? You know
Speaker 4: how to walk away from you know?
Speaker 3: I love the story. I don't think it's true, the
Speaker 3: one with him in Park five. I don't think it's
Speaker 3: the true story.
Speaker 4: That's amazing.
Speaker 5: Story.
Speaker 3: A comedian is telling it. There's a comedian that's been
Speaker 3: telling that story.
Speaker 4: That's funny.
Speaker 5: Wait, can you can you tell him I had to
Speaker 5: do with your daughter that that park was dating. But
Speaker 5: when Quincy Jones and Michael's connection, you know. So Michael
Speaker 5: looked at Quincy Jones, daughter is like his niece, and
Speaker 5: as supposed that, he saw Park like, you know, disrespect
Speaker 5: her in some kind of way, and then he stepped
Speaker 5: to him and then they fought. I mean, I think
Speaker 5: this is a fake story, but it's an amazing story
Speaker 5: just to pretend that it happened.
Speaker 3: And they said that Michael had to ill reach.
Speaker 4: My wife from Gary in the end, man.
Speaker 3: And Joe, and Joe Jackson was hard on him, so
Speaker 3: he grew up hardcore.
Speaker 4: Honestly, man, je just salute Joe Jackson. Man, I'm in
Speaker 4: a rare.
Speaker 3: Curator, man, But he raised them hardcore.
Speaker 4: I mean, that's what they said in the movies, but
Speaker 4: that could have been anything we all would raise hardcore.
Speaker 5: I'm not saying that the extreme of hardcore. But nonetheless
Speaker 5: he's still he raised them.
Speaker 4: Vision for sure.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Right, they want to go to the next question, because
Speaker 4: I got a lot more.
Speaker 3: Naza l L naz ll cool Jackson.
Speaker 4: I'm going nast going now. I'm saluting them both.
Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely, I love them from queens Ace Hood of
Speaker 5: twenty one Savage.
Speaker 4: H uh, I got bankers for both of them, brothers. Man,
Speaker 4: you know, what I'm saying, thank you, brother. Uh, we
Speaker 4: need to keep drinking, man, I got bankers for both
Speaker 4: of them, man, so little got it and I'm gonna
Speaker 4: take you know what I'm saying. Okay, let's go you ready, absolutely, Hey,
Speaker 4: even though we drink, I'm gonna still go twenty one.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go twenty one on that.
Speaker 3: You made us drink and then you took it drinks. Man,
Speaker 3: that's okay.
Speaker 4: I'm start getting like that now.
Speaker 12: Man's talking like that the boy alchemist mm hmm, yeah,
Speaker 12: probably alchemists.
Speaker 4: Man, I had a lot of inspiration shut out man
Speaker 4: for real, big up it boy, but big up to
Speaker 4: both of them for real and kind of.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're both Dre or Quincy Jones, doctor Jack Quincy
Speaker 3: Jones I am.
Speaker 4: I ain't got to do with this ship. Mm hmm.
Speaker 3: I mean you could argue that Dre is the hip
Speaker 3: hop Quincy Jones he is.
Speaker 4: What I was about to say, like Quincy Jones laid
Speaker 4: the foundation, Dre came through and pushed it, you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying with a whole new sound, it's like, ah,
Speaker 4: but it's like, you know what's crazy when I when
Speaker 4: I wrap up albums like as an executive producer, Like,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, I want to listen to
Speaker 4: this album that I'm putting together next to like some
Speaker 4: albums out look at like some of the best albums.
Speaker 4: So it's like I always play Thriller. I always play
Speaker 4: like Get Rich of Dog Trying. I always play like,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, all lives on me, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. And it's like and it's like,
Speaker 4: but Drayden producer, all on me, right, But I still
Speaker 4: listen to it, you know what I'm saying. And then
Speaker 4: then I'll listen to the Game's album, you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying, And and I listened to that with whatever album'
Speaker 4: about to drop, because like I thought it was short,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, Give Give It to the
Speaker 4: Trump was long, but it's still like that same complete journey,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. So it's like if I
Speaker 4: if we had CD changers, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: and I had my CD in and it was a
Speaker 4: change over to the CD, change over to this CD
Speaker 4: change over the city, come back to my city? Is
Speaker 4: my ship hitting in the line of that flowing Yeah,
Speaker 4: we're going to look both for them, man, for that's
Speaker 4: the absolutely that Jones get y'all drunk today.
Speaker 3: Many metro booming and murder.
Speaker 4: Beats, by the way, Finy Jones the most drunk I've.
Speaker 3: Ever in my life, Jones, and I don't think in
Speaker 3: l a that was, man, I gotta tell it.
Speaker 2: So.
Speaker 3: Metro boom and murder beats.
Speaker 4: Metro Boom for sure, been on metros still. Fourteen man
Speaker 4: salute and everything he built. Pull it up.
Speaker 5: Wow, oh ship, I'm in the whole nother fucking You're
Speaker 5: You're in somebody else's quick time.
Speaker 3: Yeah else the A s R or the NPC two thousand.
Speaker 4: MPC hands down, man, that's that was my That was
Speaker 4: my secret weapon. I just got the A SR last summer,
Speaker 4: so I've been working with it lately. I've been making
Speaker 4: some dope ship, but like the NPC my walking weapon
Speaker 4: of choice, I still plugged the A s R up
Speaker 4: to the NPC.
Speaker 3: What was your first machine that you used?
Speaker 4: My first beat machine, I had got the Core E
Speaker 4: S one. My pots that grabbed me the Core ears one,
Speaker 4: and that's how I taught myself how to make beats,
Speaker 4: and then I used to have that plugged up to
Speaker 4: like a cashio keyboard. Then one of the homies in
Speaker 4: my and my my group here that he had bought
Speaker 4: a Triting for like a thousand dollars, you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. And then he got the writing and then
Speaker 4: I was plugging that up with the with the with
Speaker 4: the core years one. And then I got the multi travelcorder.
Speaker 4: So that was before pro tools and all that shit,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying there, Yeah, and then boring
Speaker 4: I got my mini studio. The next thing, you know,
Speaker 4: I go buy myself to NPC, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: And then my mom helped me get like like these
Speaker 4: keyboard wrecks, you know what I'm saying. Like she'll she'll
Speaker 4: she'll get the credit card and then I'll pay on it,
Speaker 4: like you know what I'm saying. So like it was
Speaker 4: like some ship like that, and shout out to my
Speaker 4: mom like she man, hey, she was letting everybody come
Speaker 4: through the house. The music was loud, you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. She she was there through the whole process. Man.
Speaker 4: So that's why, like mom cast for anything, I don't
Speaker 4: carry like you know what I'm saying, Like she she
Speaker 4: got it, like she was always believing. You know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying, I'm out on school nights. You know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying in high school like she didn't. She wasn't
Speaker 4: saying it was okay, but like she she could have
Speaker 4: killed me. You know what I'm saying, like for real,
Speaker 4: because I kept bucking, you know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 4: I just knew I wanted to get that music out.
Speaker 4: So yeah, shout out to mom, shout.
Speaker 3: The mom to change of t I got nothing to
Speaker 3: do with this.
Speaker 4: See y'all doing like this ship that's them. That's it.
Speaker 4: It's like a mixed thing. It's like inspiration or like
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, where you want to go?
Speaker 3: And I got shot? I got the shot.
Speaker 4: We got the shot. Manleu Atlanta man, you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying, continue.
Speaker 3: To be great, so Lou Atlanta man, be honest. Atlanta
Speaker 3: helped me down. To Atlanta helps.
Speaker 4: When they both for my new album.
Speaker 3: You know, Atlanta helped me down. Thank you all man, man,
Speaker 3: every I love Atlanta. Man funk that. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: I held back a long time. Why did you help
Speaker 1: back from yourself? He was here, man, I was hating
Speaker 1: a little shout out to.
Speaker 4: Talk to the real niggas from New York. Man like,
Speaker 4: welcome man, anything, you.
Speaker 3: Know what.
Speaker 5: The hell you down Miami, help me the walls, help
Speaker 5: me downs.
Speaker 4: Help me top Man. Just fighting it, man, damn but
Speaker 4: fighting it.
Speaker 3: He just said that I'm fighting it.
Speaker 4: It was my favorite rapper. Like since I'm serious, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. And then like I've been working
Speaker 4: with two Changes since he was titty boy, Like, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, Like I used to, I used
Speaker 4: to grind, I used to I know him since he
Speaker 4: was titty boy. Yeah, I used to drive all the
Speaker 4: way from the staying that, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: all the way down there to two chains and old neck. Man,
Speaker 4: I might run out of gas on that drive, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. But he wanted to go to
Speaker 4: the studio at eleven pm, twelve am. I've been there
Speaker 4: all night with Change man, Like we're just banging out
Speaker 4: different sounds and yeah, man, like I remember when he
Speaker 4: thought everybody was leaping on him and we all knew, like, man,
Speaker 4: this nigga about to be the biggest, one of the biggest, for.
Speaker 3: I knew it too. That's what you called him.
Speaker 4: If you if you heard, if you, if you heard
Speaker 4: that man you weren't thinking that man you were hating
Speaker 4: he could fit man for rell you were hating? Was
Speaker 4: that nigga? Real hip hop artist? Man? Yeah? For two change?
Speaker 3: What's that nigga to h R shoty Red or drummer boy?
Speaker 4: M hm produce the ship? Well, I got nothing to
Speaker 4: do with this. Shout out, shout out the Memphis damn.
Speaker 4: They got nothing to do it. Go ahead them just
Speaker 4: a little man just drinking. There were engine definitely feel
Speaker 4: to the engine man.
Speaker 3: All right, and I'm taking a whole shots like I'm doing.
Speaker 3: I'm gonnaunted kicking right now.
Speaker 1: Because you know why why, I'm gonna be honest with
Speaker 1: you A lot of us. I wanted Mike Will here.
Speaker 4: For years.
Speaker 3: I wanted Mike Will to get his flowers.
Speaker 1: Mike Will's a person that deserves what's going on right now.
Speaker 1: You are a legend of a legend, you are icon,
Speaker 1: your icon, and me ef n a whole establishment drink champs.
Speaker 3: We wanted to give you a flopers.
Speaker 1: I don't I don't mind being as saucy as I'm
Speaker 1: being saucy today because it's it's for you, brother, and
Speaker 1: you know what me and him are in s's it
Speaker 1: called whatever ye because you know why, Nah, you you
Speaker 1: really deserve your flowers. You really we want you to
Speaker 1: know that what you did to the game is so beautiful.
Speaker 1: You're going to continue to give you your flowers.
Speaker 4: No, I appy sure, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Okay, continue, Yeah, were still we were almost. Yeah, We're
Speaker 3: still were still almost. We're still in a bit logic
Speaker 3: and pro tools on purchas.
Speaker 4: I don't know how to use logic.
Speaker 3: Juicy Jay Wi Kalisa.
Speaker 4: Damn, it's another thing.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 4: We're going to toss up to that one too. Man.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Well, man, my two stoner buddies. Man,
Speaker 4: my brother's right there. Man, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: You can just over your simple You don't shout.
Speaker 4: Out to Juicy j Man for being a blueprint, man
Speaker 4: for being an inspiration, and and and the run that
Speaker 4: we went on with so legendary. I went on the
Speaker 4: run with both of them. Guys.
Speaker 3: Man up, DJ Premiere, Pete Rock. This is very even question,
Speaker 3: but I don't I would like to see what you're
Speaker 3: how you're gonna answer.
Speaker 4: I probably say Premiere that was hard.
Speaker 3: I thought he was going to answer, that's hard, trick
Speaker 3: Daddy Rick Ross.
Speaker 4: Damn all right, mam, have.
Speaker 3: You worked with Trick?
Speaker 4: I ain't ever worked with Trick?
Speaker 5: Oh man, I could hear you guys, that would be
Speaker 5: Come on, man, Ross joins you to this crazy trick
Speaker 5: raising nigga, You and Trick would be crazy trick.
Speaker 4: Too, hard man, real legend man bron like. See, y'all
Speaker 4: got me fucked up on this game because I'm a
Speaker 4: I'm an indecisive nigga. I'm already indecisive.
Speaker 3: It's all good, that's what for.
Speaker 4: And when I smoke makes it even worse. Man, they
Speaker 4: were all smoking. Go to the mall, man, he's look
Speaker 4: a shift.
Speaker 3: Can we connect you and Trick man and make something happen?
Speaker 3: Miley Cyrus Champs? Yeah, we drink Champs compilation. Right, Just
Speaker 3: let them let them work together. Man, let's circle back
Speaker 3: after the Yeah, Miley Cyrus and Katy Perry.
Speaker 4: I am gotta go. Miley Cyrus, how did you connect? Man?
Speaker 4: Through r c A. Shout out to Peter Edge, shout
Speaker 4: out to everybody at r c A. It was crazy.
Speaker 4: I had just signed my I had just signed my
Speaker 4: published adventure. So that was my first adventure. Like you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, Like a lot of people just
Speaker 4: think I just make beat. So like like I'm an
Speaker 4: executive too, you know what I'm saying. So it's like
Speaker 4: I never even signed a part deal or anything like
Speaker 4: that until they would give me adventure and I can
Speaker 4: sign all the guys that was a part of my team,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, because those guys that already
Speaker 4: we had already.
Speaker 3: Sorry starting to coach, but can you explain what that
Speaker 3: venture is? Like what does that mean for people that
Speaker 3: don't understand?
Speaker 4: Okay, So ear Drummers was was an idea that I
Speaker 4: had when I was you know what I'm saying, in
Speaker 4: two thousand and six, two thousand and seven. Then I
Speaker 4: created the AOC made it a real production company. It
Speaker 4: was just me and then you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Then I had my brother SCHOOLI. Then I had my
Speaker 4: brother A plus I was going to high school with
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, Dan Boom, Like we're creating
Speaker 4: our sound. And then next thing you know, I'm meet
Speaker 4: I mean my brother p Nasty through a mutual and
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, he got he know, Mars
Speaker 4: Like you know what I'm saying that Mars no jabo.
Speaker 4: And I was like, man, I was like, man, we
Speaker 4: hurdled up. I got like a vision where it's like, man, hey, look,
Speaker 4: we're gonna build like a big production company and we're gonna,
Speaker 4: like you know what I'm saying, We're gonna like take
Speaker 4: over the game and we're gonna like just spread our
Speaker 4: sound like through all type because because I was looking
Speaker 4: at it, like I had like a bunch of songs
Speaker 4: out in the street with Gucci and Juice Man and
Speaker 4: all type of artists in Atlanta. But I was like, man,
Speaker 4: what's the difference between me and like a like a
Speaker 4: Kanye West, like a Doctor Dre or like a you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, Little John, or like a Quincy
Speaker 4: Jones or like you know what I'm saying anything like that.
Speaker 4: And it was like, man, these guys got production teams,
Speaker 4: like you know what I'm saying. Like, and so I
Speaker 4: was like, man, I got to build a solid team.
Speaker 4: So everybody I was on the team like man, we're
Speaker 4: going through it like with a super fine tooth comb,
Speaker 4: like where it's like man, everybody gotta be we gotta
Speaker 4: be like minded. If we're not like minded, we're not
Speaker 4: gonna be able to do nothing, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So now out of linked over these like minded brothers
Speaker 4: right here, and we were on a mission. Like you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. We already got our goals what
Speaker 4: we want to do. We want to get a song
Speaker 4: on the radio, we want to get a label deal,
Speaker 4: we want to get an album placement. You know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. We want to be able to have money,
Speaker 4: take care of our lives. And you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: We had simple goals, you know what I'm saying, and
Speaker 4: then we just locked in. We're just on it every
Speaker 4: single day. So and during that time, during yeah, during
Speaker 4: that time, it's like like like I already have my
Speaker 4: tag and I'm already working with Gucci and different artists
Speaker 4: and stuff like that. And then we had the ear
Speaker 4: Drummer tag, you know what I'm saying, And like these
Speaker 4: guys were more like were like chill, like they ain't
Speaker 4: really had no tasks at the time, Like we were
Speaker 4: trying to figure out what the tags were gonna be
Speaker 4: and everything like that. So it's like, you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying, Like okay Boom, Mike, we made the ear drummers.
Speaker 4: People don't know like, okay man he was working with
Speaker 4: He worked with Mars on that one. He worked with
Speaker 4: Pee on that one, he worked with Spoody on that one,
Speaker 4: he worked with Plus on that one. He worked with
Speaker 4: jaybo on that one. And let's say read the credits,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. But even when the companies
Speaker 4: didn't though, and they were just hear Mike will do
Speaker 4: like word them mouth, these folks coming at me were
Speaker 4: like beat like money I never even imagined I could
Speaker 4: get right And at this time I'm broke. I got
Speaker 4: three songs on the charts. I got No Light, Turn
Speaker 4: on the Lights and Mercy and Band's Maca Dance, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, Like all them on the line,
Speaker 4: I mean, all them on the charts. But at the
Speaker 4: same time we were broke, like we weren't getting no
Speaker 4: money from like like like the publishing or whatever, like
Speaker 4: all that kind of stuff, cause we didn't have our
Speaker 4: business in order, you know what I'm saying, Like we're
Speaker 4: getting it out the dirt. So it's like like even
Speaker 4: when these companies is coming at me and saying like man,
Speaker 4: we want to give you all this money right here.
Speaker 4: It's like, nah, I gotta because I was I was
Speaker 4: going to Georgia State. You know what I'm saying. I
Speaker 4: went to Georgia State for a couple of years and
Speaker 4: I learned the music business, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: And then I understood, like, Okay, I can go to
Speaker 4: these companies and tell them what kind of business I
Speaker 4: want to do with them, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So I want to do a joint venture. You know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. I'm not going to go to you
Speaker 4: and talk about doing the joint venture without already the
Speaker 4: venture venturing, you know what I'm saying. And so now
Speaker 4: I'm coming to you talking about like I want to
Speaker 4: do a joint venture. But like you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: my guys got placements too. Me and my guys got
Speaker 4: placements too, you know what I'm saying. And we got
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, We got underground placement, who
Speaker 4: got radio placement, got olumplacement. Were just out here working.
Speaker 4: This is without any you know what I'm saying, any
Speaker 4: like entries to the room or like a like any
Speaker 4: kind of people ushering, no ushering, it's just like us
Speaker 4: just working hard. So Boom, so we had it. So
Speaker 4: certain companies like, hey, man, we only want to sign you.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. The certain companies like, man,
Speaker 4: if we give you adventure, we're only gonna give you
Speaker 4: this all right, I'm gonna just hold out. We're just
Speaker 4: gonna stay broke, you know what I'm saying until y'all
Speaker 4: come all the way right. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: Because if we do somewhere anybody, we need to have
Speaker 4: like we're doing something with y'all to have financial freedom,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. So then we can lock
Speaker 4: in and do what we do best, like you feel me.
Speaker 4: So that's what we're trying to do. So boom shout
Speaker 4: out to Big John. He was leaving I and my
Speaker 4: and then he was going to Wanner and he told
Speaker 4: me when he was when he was making that move,
Speaker 4: he was like, hey, bro, I don't do nothing but
Speaker 4: nobody like you know what I'm saying. I know everybody
Speaker 4: call you, but man, I want to. I want to.
Speaker 4: I want to you know what I'm saying. I want
Speaker 4: to get get it right with you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: And it was, and it was other other executives that
Speaker 4: really believed in me, like even with Ethiopia, like she
Speaker 4: connected me with my manager DJ, which is Jimmy Elban's nephew,
Speaker 4: because Ethiopia met me and knew I ain't had no manager.
Speaker 3: D Jimmy el Bean's nephew, nephew.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, So Ethiopia, she she knew, like, okay, man,
Speaker 4: this young dude got the division and he got his
Speaker 4: stuff going and he got business by this, so he
Speaker 4: just need a manager. And then she told DJ, like, man,
Speaker 4: you should go to Atlanta and meet with this kid
Speaker 4: Mike Will. Like, man, he not signing nobody or nothing,
Speaker 4: but he making a lot of noise and he's smart,
Speaker 4: and it's like I like what he I liked what
Speaker 4: he building. And then DJ was already known for managing
Speaker 4: like Polo, you know what I'm saying, boy, wonder hit boy,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, Different people like that. So
Speaker 4: it's like at the end of the day, it's like
Speaker 4: he was already like a like a manager for producers
Speaker 4: and everything. So DJ flied to Atlanta and then we
Speaker 4: chopped it up and then I just told him like, hey,
Speaker 4: look all these companies coming at me right now, Everybody
Speaker 4: talking to me about management, all this kind of shit.
Speaker 4: I'm trying to see who's the first person who's gonna
Speaker 4: go give me this joint venture that I'm talking about.
Speaker 4: So me and my boys ain't got worried about no
Speaker 4: money and we could just focus on just like locking
Speaker 4: in on the and we get access to them because
Speaker 4: we got hits from from Gucci Man to Disney, like
Speaker 4: you don't matter who you put us in with you
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. We got it, like you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. And this before we had anything
Speaker 4: on the radio. So DJ was like, all right, shit,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna get it done, like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So he started working on getting it done. But then
Speaker 4: Big John saw how long I was holding out on it,
Speaker 4: to the point where Big John was like, man, I bro,
Speaker 4: when I made this move, this is the first move
Speaker 4: I'm finna do. Bro. I see what I see how
Speaker 4: you keep building it, you know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 4: then next thing you know, him and Ryan Press flew
Speaker 4: me out to La you know what I'm saying, and
Speaker 4: they wouldn't let me lead till we got the deal. Done.
Speaker 4: I was just I was just negotiating. I was negotiating.
Speaker 4: I don't even know what. Yeah, I ain't know what
Speaker 4: it was. Necessarily I'm negotiating it. But they wanted to
Speaker 4: do it. They're like, man, I bro, look we believe
Speaker 4: in you. So whatever you're doing. So they bless me
Speaker 4: and bless my guys and then started putting this like
Speaker 4: in writing camps, and so they set up a meeting.
Speaker 4: They were set up for meeting with me in New
Speaker 4: York with all the labels. This is my first time
Speaker 4: in New York in the winter time. I go up
Speaker 4: there and try to treat it like Atlanta, like with
Speaker 4: the thumbs in like a jogging suit. Like I'm thinking
Speaker 4: I'm in Atlanta.
Speaker 3: But I learned so many shorts out there, so I
Speaker 3: understand you.
Speaker 4: Man, that ship humble me. Man, that ship was like
Speaker 4: the wind was cutting through my bones. So I had this.
Speaker 4: I had this last meeting. It was when the sun
Speaker 4: was down. There was too cold outside. So Ryan Press
Speaker 4: was like, man, we got one more meeting with RCA.
Speaker 4: I'm like, nah, bro, I'm not going back outside, and
Speaker 4: he was like, man, you gotta go to this one.
Speaker 4: Like the whole staff is there and like they kept
Speaker 4: the staff overtime, like you know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 4: this is just will be a good one. Like I'm like, bro,
Speaker 4: it's too cold, bro, like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: My manager had to call DJ. He like, man, bro,
Speaker 4: this is just this will be a good this is
Speaker 4: a bit. So I'm like, man, Okay, there's people who
Speaker 4: I'm newly in business with. I can't just be stubborn,
Speaker 4: like you know what I'm saying, and I'm up here
Speaker 4: in New York or fuck it, like you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. Boom, go getting there, Go get in the car. Boom.
Speaker 4: We go to the motherfucking We go to the motherfucking
Speaker 4: meeting and then they showed me a bunch of artists
Speaker 4: and then I played and we can't Stop. And it's
Speaker 4: crazy because I had just told my manager like two
Speaker 4: weeks before, like man, I was trying to get that
Speaker 4: song to Miley Cyrus. I'm like, man, this song remind
Speaker 4: me of like Party in the USA, and so boom,
Speaker 4: we had that meeting with RCA. They heard we Can't
Speaker 4: Stop and they're like, yo, this would be good for
Speaker 4: Miley Cyrus. And I was like, man, I'll be perfect,
Speaker 4: Like because I ain't know what artists was signed where,
Speaker 4: so I ain't know Miley Cyrus was signed over there.
Speaker 4: So they were like, man, this would be good for one.
Speaker 4: I'm like, hey, I'll be perfect. So Boom gave them
Speaker 4: the song you know what I'm saying. They played it
Speaker 4: for her. She heard it. She was like, man, damn,
Speaker 4: this remind me of like a party I went to, like,
Speaker 4: it just sounds fun, like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So she was trying to cut that one, you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, And then we got in the sitdio.
Speaker 4: We cut that one and we did twenty three. Yeah real,
Speaker 4: thank you for bringing that full. Yeah, we've been on track.
Speaker 3: You brought it back.
Speaker 4: No, no, no, I was just I was just let
Speaker 4: y'all know the whole thing. Can you said, let them
Speaker 4: know about the the v y'all told me, y'all, y'all
Speaker 4: asked me about two.
Speaker 3: You brought it back because I was with the ventures
Speaker 3: still three more were good. We're good.
Speaker 4: Three more all right? And by the way, man, I
Speaker 4: don't want to keep elaborating on this, but it's like
Speaker 4: Mighty didn't want to rap that night, you know, what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. She didn't want to write. She didn't want
Speaker 4: to She didn't come in there and say, hey, I
Speaker 4: want to make a rap song like it was we
Speaker 4: Can't Start, We Can't Stop as a singing record. To her,
Speaker 4: that just sounded fun, Like you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: that that record just sound fun. But like and in
Speaker 4: my mind as a producer, like you know, we producers,
Speaker 4: we see like these pictures and we see like these
Speaker 4: bigger pictures and we're trying to we're trying to push
Speaker 4: towards something. So during that time, I was trying, we
Speaker 4: were trying to like me and my start, we were
Speaker 4: trying to do something like like trap pop, like some
Speaker 4: trap pop kind of vibes, Like we're trying to push
Speaker 4: the trap sound as pop as possible and see how
Speaker 4: far we could push it. Because at the end of
Speaker 4: the day, anybody like my age younger, like we all
Speaker 4: grew up on MTV, v H one, you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying, We all grew up on Nori Yeager, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. Like, but but at the end
Speaker 4: of the day, no so real ship shout out to Miley.
Speaker 4: She believed in the vision, like she didn't. She didn't
Speaker 4: look at it. She didn't look at it in no
Speaker 4: kind of way like, oh, he's not big enough for
Speaker 4: he's not small enough. Like she already doing what she
Speaker 4: was doing. She ain't have to do, she ain't have
Speaker 4: to try ship. She already told me, Like, man, I
Speaker 4: don't I don't want she said, I don't want to
Speaker 4: rap because I don't want people to I don't want
Speaker 4: to compute my fans. I don't want them to think
Speaker 4: that I'm trying to like this way. I'm like, there
Speaker 4: could be yeah, but I'm like, man, but look, I
Speaker 4: already got this verse from Juicy J and wiz Man.
Speaker 4: I already had to I'm like, I already got a
Speaker 4: verse written from Tran, I got this hook written from Tron,
Speaker 4: one of the greatest songwriters of all time. Salute the
Speaker 4: Tron rock City. You know what I'm saying, And I'm like, man,
Speaker 4: I sit in here with you. We can go line
Speaker 4: for line till we get it right. But I feel
Speaker 4: like this would be so hard. If you do this, man,
Speaker 4: like it, it'll be game changing. Like you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying, It'll be like when like Britney Spears did,
Speaker 4: like any kind of different record than when Justin Timberlate
Speaker 4: came with like sexy back like man like this this
Speaker 4: is this will like break the mold, you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. So yeah, world up man. So that that
Speaker 4: was then introduction to trap pop, that ship global, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. So shout out to slip rip
Speaker 4: man for real for you know what I'm saying. Like
Speaker 4: I'm just saying, getting paid.
Speaker 3: Off the record.
Speaker 4: Yeah that's right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, all right, Zetoven or Sunny Digital.
Speaker 4: I am. We gotta toest man. You gotta take a
Speaker 4: toe my big brother and my little brother, man, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, love them both.
Speaker 3: All right south side of lex Luga.
Speaker 4: Mine, we're gonna go on that one man, We're gonna
Speaker 4: go Sizzle Man. Shout out to Sizzle. You know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. That's the first. That's the first other young
Speaker 4: nigga I seen come on the on the scene like
Speaker 4: right after me. Like I remember when walking met him.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, I remember when walking back
Speaker 4: Lex Luga too. I really got a toast to it.
Speaker 4: I just don't want to get y'all too drunk, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. But yeah, yeah, we really got
Speaker 4: a toast to that. You know what I'm saying, Cause
Speaker 4: I remember I remember when Walking met both of them.
Speaker 4: So like after after me and Walker was moving around
Speaker 4: and and and we're doing everything like with Gucci, cause
Speaker 4: that's when Gucci started doing like no Paying, No Pencil
Speaker 4: Traple Harll is like a lot of that mixtape. So
Speaker 4: and like you know what I'm saying, he was just
Speaker 4: like going crazy and just freestyling on my tracks. And
Speaker 4: at this point, like man, he's saying walk and flock
Speaker 4: and flying. He's saying Mike Will made it like he's saying,
Speaker 4: like you're fucking with us, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So it's like, hey, man, we could do something bigger
Speaker 4: than like being these little young dudes. Say you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, keep getting into like the fights in
Speaker 4: the club and all this kind of shit, Like man,
Speaker 4: Gucci Man really going rock star status, bro, Like you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, We can really take this ship
Speaker 4: on somewhere. So it's like I'm telling Walker, like, bro,
Speaker 4: you need a rap, you know what I'm saying. He like, man,
Speaker 4: everybody keep telling me that, bro, Like man, I ain't
Speaker 4: fit the ramp like, man, I ain't with all that whoo.
Speaker 4: So one day he called me, He's like, bro, I
Speaker 4: did my first rap song. Bro like ooh yeah. I'm like,
Speaker 4: I'm like for real. And then he like he like, man,
Speaker 4: I'm like, let me hear. You're like, man, you gotta
Speaker 4: hear this ship. Bro, you gotta hear this ship. So
Speaker 4: he playing me that we on the way and I'm
Speaker 4: hearing that. I'm like, I'm like, I'm like damn. I'm like, bro,
Speaker 4: you really just snapped. Bro. He was like, hey, Bro,
Speaker 4: I'm like, who the hell made that beat? And he
Speaker 4: was like he was like, Bro, it's this. Your nigga
Speaker 4: ain't south Side, but I just make this young nigga Broke.
Speaker 4: He mind me up, Broke here mind me and you.
Speaker 4: When I first met you, Bro like, Bro, I'm telling you, bro,
Speaker 4: he gonna heat. Hey, I need to I need to
Speaker 4: introduce y'all to each other. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: y'all niggas together.
Speaker 3: Bro knows the same people.
Speaker 4: South Side started eight away in my Yeah, yeah, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. He was like, man, he was like, man,
Speaker 4: when I introduced y'all, Bro, Like, Bro, that shit gonna
Speaker 4: be like game changing, bro Like and then you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, he had linked me and me in
Speaker 4: south Side up and then Boom, me in south Side
Speaker 4: were like we always were rocking, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: And it was crazy because his mom was trying to
Speaker 4: put me south Side and Alex Luger in the group.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. Like that that's how Dal
Speaker 4: had the vision, you know what I'm saying. But then like, yeah,
Speaker 4: they have had the vision. Dal was trying to put
Speaker 4: me south Side and Lex in the group. You know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. That would have been super crazy. But
Speaker 4: that was around the time I started Ear Drummers, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. So it was another executive that
Speaker 4: was running the production company for there, and so he
Speaker 4: everybody else just signed their contracts. Like with me, I
Speaker 4: already had a lawyer. I already had like family that
Speaker 4: was lawyers. You know what I'm saying. Boom, we like,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. We looked over it and
Speaker 4: then I was just letting that executive know like, man,
Speaker 4: this isn't gonna work because I'm trying to start something
Speaker 4: called Ear Drummers, and I can't like turn my back
Speaker 4: on my guys, Like you know what I'm saying, but
Speaker 4: I feel like I need to do this. I feel
Speaker 4: like I need to do this too, like you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, because like, like you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: goos Walker, everybody embraced me, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: So I want to get it right, but I want
Speaker 4: to do it like this, and like that dude kind
Speaker 4: of like just he didn't really know me. We ain't
Speaker 4: have we didn't really have a relationship, like I have
Speaker 4: more relationship like walking there, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So he kind of like just shrugged me off, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. And then at that point it
Speaker 4: was like that's when I want to meet, like like
Speaker 4: to change in future, you know what I'm saying. But
Speaker 4: Dare she always been a real anti real family to me,
Speaker 4: Like you know what I'm saying. Her brother Joe is
Speaker 4: like my man, one of my closest mentors. Like we
Speaker 4: talk every single day, you know what I'm saying, since
Speaker 4: by since two thousand and seven, Like you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying, And like, man, they whole family, Like you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, and braced me. So it's like
Speaker 4: it's deeper than rap, like you know what I'm saying
Speaker 4: with them or whatnot.
Speaker 3: So let me let me ask you lord to you
Speaker 3: or respect?
Speaker 4: Respect? Whys out there?
Speaker 2: Bro?
Speaker 4: I don't have the exact way of answering this, but
Speaker 4: gyaltier respect. I probably say respect because it's like I
Speaker 4: don't know how to break it down. As long as
Speaker 4: as long as as long as long as you respect me.
Speaker 4: It's like it's some kind of loyalty that there, Like,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, respect that you feel me like,
Speaker 4: as long as you respect me, it gotta be some
Speaker 4: type of loyalty there because you're not you're not crossing
Speaker 4: the line of disrespect, you know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 4: I don't know, like everybody gonna have their own definitions
Speaker 4: of loyalty, you know what I'm saying. But but respect
Speaker 4: and respect, I don't really have a correct way of
Speaker 4: answering that. But that's that's what I would say. Yeah,
Speaker 4: all right, so.
Speaker 3: Now take a shot.
Speaker 4: I forgot that that was that same game. I thought
Speaker 4: this was me just throwing something out there. That's the
Speaker 4: same game that came.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we always say both the white, we say both, Okay.
Speaker 4: My bad, ive been, my bad. I've been I've been
Speaker 4: drinking and smoking. I thought we were on to the
Speaker 4: other but the other game, Yeah, definitely take a shot
Speaker 4: to that one.
Speaker 3: This is what we'd like to ask you. I'm humble,
Speaker 3: how did this happen?
Speaker 4: So humble? You know what I'm saying. Shout out to
Speaker 4: Kendrick Man. He had reshot to me and and told me,
Speaker 4: like man, he was about to start a new project.
Speaker 4: So boom, he comes comes to the studio, spends a
Speaker 4: whole but my matter of fact, comes to my crib
Speaker 4: in La, spends them the whole compound. I had a compound,
Speaker 4: then I had a crib by La, and he came
Speaker 4: over there and then he was just listening to beats
Speaker 4: down there all day. Took a bunch of beats and
Speaker 4: then he started like he started like sending me like
Speaker 4: different videos and he was just like man, showing me
Speaker 4: like different snippers of Humble, different snippers of DNA. And
Speaker 4: then so I was like, man, Dawn, this ship hard.
Speaker 4: Like man, when you get to La, I'm like, man,
Speaker 4: be out there on such and such day, So boom,
Speaker 4: when I get out there, I call him come to
Speaker 4: the studio boone. He played me Humble, and he played
Speaker 4: me DNA, and he played me x x six And
Speaker 4: I'm like, man, my mom was just blown on all
Speaker 4: three of them because that shit was like fireworks. It's
Speaker 4: like they are three different directions, but it's like bright
Speaker 4: as a motherfucker. So it's like he played me those
Speaker 4: three and then Humble, Humble was one of them. You
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, Like I made that beat. It
Speaker 4: was crazy. I had made that beat with my brother Plus.
Speaker 4: I had pulled up on him at this studio like
Speaker 4: around our way, like round and like the Mary of
Speaker 4: the area, you know what I'm saying. He Plus was
Speaker 4: already over there and I was just around that area.
Speaker 4: So so boom, I heard Plus was in there. So
Speaker 4: I pulled up to a studio, went in the studio,
Speaker 4: and then boom, he was in there making beats. I
Speaker 4: finished this one beat that he started on and then
Speaker 4: he said he about to go outside smoking cigarette or whatever,
Speaker 4: but he was taking a car, so boom, I literally
Speaker 4: I literally started Humble cooked her Humble. He come in
Speaker 4: the room. You know what I'm saying, He like, damn,
Speaker 4: but he just made this right now, I'm like, man, hey, yeah, bro,
Speaker 4: this shit going crazy, like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: And I knew like Gucci was on his way home,
Speaker 4: so I was trying to make something like I was
Speaker 4: just trying to get a whole pack that was just
Speaker 4: urgent for Gucci, Like you know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 4: because he was his he was on his way home,
Speaker 4: so like to me, that beat was just urgent. So
Speaker 4: Plus came in there here like, man, it's hard, I'm
Speaker 4: about to bounce this. I'm like, hell, no, bro, you go,
Speaker 4: you gotta ask someone there. So he put the final
Speaker 4: touches on that joint. And this is my brother from
Speaker 4: eleventh grade. You know what I'm saying. This is what
Speaker 4: I did. This is what I did formation with this?
Speaker 4: What did love me with this? What I did like
Speaker 4: a lot of classics with like he's an animal man,
Speaker 4: shout out to Plus. You know what I'm saying. But yeah,
Speaker 4: he had he added the final touches on that joint.
Speaker 4: And then I remember like me and Gucci ended up
Speaker 4: doing first day out of fat and then after first
Speaker 4: day out of the fast, like Gucci just wanted straight,
Speaker 4: straight like dark beats. He didn't want nothing else that
Speaker 4: sounded like urgent on the radio, So he like he
Speaker 4: might have heard a beat for Humble like once or twice,
Speaker 4: but joint, it could have it could have been you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. But you know, like producers, we
Speaker 4: always got like a vision on who we want to
Speaker 4: make the beat for. Like when I made easter Land
Speaker 4: and six for Gucci back in the day, I was thinking, like,
Speaker 4: I'm making a beat for dip set, you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying, And it's like, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: But then when Gucci was doing like in freestyle tapes,
Speaker 4: it's like I played that beat and then he just
Speaker 4: went in and snapped on that motherfucker and it's like, man,
Speaker 4: this was this was like a hook. This is my
Speaker 4: first joint. That's how I jumped off the porch and
Speaker 4: this is a hood classic still to this day. You
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. Nineteen years later, you feel me up,
Speaker 4: I got a producer. You might have a vision. But
Speaker 4: I say all that to say, you might have a
Speaker 4: vision as a producer, like I'm making a beat for
Speaker 4: this person, but it might not be for that person,
Speaker 4: Like you know what I'm saying, And sometimes it is
Speaker 4: for that person. But but like that right there, Gucci
Speaker 4: already knew like, man, I got first day out of
Speaker 4: the fast all right, boom, I want to I want
Speaker 4: to do all different beats like this and me and
Speaker 4: they token started collabing and then we did everybody looking
Speaker 4: in at that project came out dope and then Dog
Speaker 4: was asking me for beats and I just felt like
Speaker 4: that beat was always urgent, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: But to me also, I felt like that beat was like, damn,
Speaker 4: this is like this guy like some West Coast vibe
Speaker 4: to it. It sounded like some West Coast like you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, d boys ship, But you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, But it got like the trap vibe
Speaker 4: to it perfect. I'm like, man, Kendrick are going crazy
Speaker 4: on this ship and he got the vision fit perfectly.
Speaker 4: Went dumb. You know what I'm saying, shout out the humble.
Speaker 4: I should want that, I should want to post him.
Speaker 3: And you said that you a school boy, surprised connected
Speaker 3: you with Kendrick? Right, how did y'all you and school
Speaker 3: with Q connect? Originally?
Speaker 4: Originally that was through Brock.
Speaker 3: And it seems like it's early TD.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was through Brock and Matt. You know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. They shot they connected me with Q and
Speaker 4: and Dave three, and I was just sitting like brocking
Speaker 4: Matt like a bunch of beats. And then my hating
Speaker 4: joint ended up being one of the joints of school
Speaker 4: Boy QT Pit and then they send it back and
Speaker 4: I'm like, man, this dude hard as a motherfucker. Project
Speaker 4: ended up dropping, And at that time, me and Q
Speaker 4: used to just stay chopping it up. N whenever he
Speaker 4: came to Atlanta, Like you know what I'm saying with
Speaker 4: Lincoln go to some of the shows and different shit
Speaker 4: like that, and we just kept a lot there like that,
Speaker 4: like TD, that's family. And it's crazy before I even
Speaker 4: came around, Like I think like DJ had something to
Speaker 4: do with helping, Like no, no, DJ, Yeah, my manager DJ,
Speaker 4: he had something to do with like like even with
Speaker 4: TD coming in, like you know what I'm saying with
Speaker 4: in the scope, So it's like this was always family.
Speaker 4: It was always like one degree separation with Damn. They're
Speaker 4: always working at the same studios and all that shit.
Speaker 4: But like I'm happy, I'm happy, humble with landed, where
Speaker 4: landed I'm happy. First day out of the fairs landed,
Speaker 4: word landed. And it's like that's just how things end
Speaker 4: up working their stuff out.
Speaker 3: They went to the right places.
Speaker 4: Man, pull it up? Mm hmm, how did that happen?
Speaker 4: Poor it up?
Speaker 12: Man?
Speaker 4: That was a dope session, man, like that was that
Speaker 4: was really that was Rihanna Wright in camp and I
Speaker 4: was locked in with Tryan and p Nasty and Mars
Speaker 4: and and then it was like, man, we worked on
Speaker 4: a lot of different songs we worked on. We actually
Speaker 4: worked on we Can't Stop, and like some more songs
Speaker 4: during like during like like around that time, like just
Speaker 4: in the in the vein of like man, we're gonna
Speaker 4: we're gonna do something for like Rihanna or like just
Speaker 4: a pop star you feel me and and Rihanna had
Speaker 4: been working on the album for a minute and so
Speaker 4: they were bands to Make a Dance was hot at
Speaker 4: the time. So they were telling me like, man, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: So they were just telling me, like, man, if Rihanna
Speaker 4: get a female version of this song, man, like she
Speaker 4: need like a song like this out of just like
Speaker 4: because Bands of Maker Dance was like blue hot, like
Speaker 4: it was just like everywhere, like everybody like, man, it's
Speaker 4: still like, it's still so many remixes that I want
Speaker 4: to hear that I never heard that I heard about,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying for bands of Macca dance
Speaker 4: or so anyway I had. I had this one beat
Speaker 4: and I remember this specific beat because I tried to
Speaker 4: give it to Walker and Walker was like, man, Bro,
Speaker 4: you're trying to make me do a whole other bands
Speaker 4: to make her dance. Brother, it beat something like bands
Speaker 4: make a dance, you know what I'm saying. I remember
Speaker 4: he said that, and I was just like, it's a
Speaker 4: different beat, but it's like, so what, Bro, It's a
Speaker 4: vibe like you know what I'm saying, Like Niggas was
Speaker 4: doing that with Little Giant, but this is my brother,
Speaker 4: just this Walker, So you're like, bro, give me some
Speaker 4: whole new ship, like you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 4: when he said that, it stood out to me. And
Speaker 4: then when they kept asking, like man, we want the
Speaker 4: female version of bands to make her dance, It's like
Speaker 4: I literally played that same beat for Taran. Taran just
Speaker 4: walked it down quick.
Speaker 3: And then.
Speaker 4: Chris Brown, he had pulled up to the studio. You
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, and like he was listening to
Speaker 4: a bunch of different records and he ended up coming
Speaker 4: in the room.
Speaker 3: Fantastic thing.
Speaker 4: He ended up. He ended up coming in the room
Speaker 4: and then boom he heard he heard like a few
Speaker 4: different records, but he heard pour it Up. And he
Speaker 4: was like, man, yo, man, did we hear this one?
Speaker 4: And I was like, I'm like nah. And then he
Speaker 4: was like here like man, but we got it here
Speaker 4: this one like you know what I'm saying. Like and
Speaker 4: then and then boom so and I was like, man, ship, bro,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. I'll be hard like and
Speaker 4: the next thing, I know, like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: He was like, man, what's this record that Chris is
Speaker 4: talking about? Pull it up? You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: And she she asked Omar that, and then Omar had
Speaker 4: hit me. I was like, man, yo, she asked me
Speaker 4: about pour it Up? So Boom sent them send the
Speaker 4: pour it up. She heard it. She was like, oh yeah, no, no,
Speaker 4: this is is fun. Like this is just dope. You
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. She man, she took that ship
Speaker 4: like like out of here. She sounded amazing on that joint.
Speaker 4: I Remember when I first heard that joint, I was like, man, yo,
Speaker 4: this should is this should is out of here. It
Speaker 4: was nothing like that ever before, Like when it came out,
Speaker 4: that was like some trap pop type ship like.
Speaker 3: That for real.
Speaker 4: Bands and make a dance with some trap pop.
Speaker 5: Your your teenage version of yourself is probably to be
Speaker 5: a producer. Who were your top five inspirational producers at that.
Speaker 4: Time in your life teenage? Definitely Hypnotide Mind, Juicy J
Speaker 4: and DJ Paul, you know what I'm saying. Definitely Organized Noise,
Speaker 4: Definitely Many Fresh, definitely for real and and Timberland, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. And Doctor Dray too though you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 12: For real?
Speaker 3: Yeah, And where are you on? Like how much do
Speaker 3: you sample? Actually sample? Like how much is that a
Speaker 3: part of your repertoire?
Speaker 4: Like I don't see me. I'm like an open I'm
Speaker 4: like an open like mind when I when it comes
Speaker 4: to creativity, like I look at making beats and making songs,
Speaker 4: like cooking or like you know what I'm saying, playing golf,
Speaker 4: It's like it's just art, it's just layers. So like
Speaker 4: when when it comes to like sampling, like if it's
Speaker 4: a simple like I gotta I gotta record with Savage
Speaker 4: on my on my album. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: I got that that sample from you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: Like I gut to I collaborate with you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. And when I when I heard the sample,
Speaker 4: I was just like, oh yeah, this ship hard. Immediately
Speaker 4: laid drums on that motherfucker, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: And so that was just organic like that. But then
Speaker 4: it's like I got another song where you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying, I might have like a Viner out and
Speaker 4: I might just be like just like scratching something like
Speaker 4: into the song and like it might go with the
Speaker 4: rhythm or even like DNA on when I when I
Speaker 4: said for Ray James, give me some Ganja, I ain't
Speaker 4: know that was Ray James give me some ganja. Like
Speaker 4: that beat was just going so hard, and I was
Speaker 4: like I was waiting on my boy plus to pull
Speaker 4: up with the weed too, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So when I hit that separa just right on point,
Speaker 4: they were like, give me some ganja, give me some
Speaker 4: gud give me give me some gundry. You know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying, give me, give me me, and then Kendrick
Speaker 4: was just over there like going crazy and the speakers
Speaker 4: were so loud, but Kendrick was going so crazy, all like, bro,
Speaker 4: I ain't gonna lie that ship kind of hard, like
Speaker 4: how you like with how you rapping, Cause it's kind
Speaker 4: of like give me some Ganja kind of like it's
Speaker 4: like give me some more bars. It's like they kind
Speaker 4: of go with it, and like that was an accident.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. That was an accident and
Speaker 4: we ended up I ended up clicking that joint in there.
Speaker 3: Is sampling your go to first thing?
Speaker 4: Or is it like I'm with I'm with whatever, man,
Speaker 4: not really, you know what I'm saying, But I'm with
Speaker 4: whatever I say. I say drums are my first thing,
Speaker 4: but I just like making something different, So rock a
Speaker 4: fucking sample up or if there's some shit I never
Speaker 4: heard before or some shit that's inspiring, you could do it. Yeah,
Speaker 4: like that shit is fun, Like you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: Definitely depending on who I'm in the studio with. You
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying with the squad, Like everybody think
Speaker 4: it's different. So it's just like, man, we're just trying
Speaker 4: to make something sound as different and out of box
Speaker 4: and unique as possible.
Speaker 3: So, however, like you use any tool in the toolbox.
Speaker 4: Exactly, for sure, I want to learn how to use AI.
Speaker 3: Oh so, how what's your take on Tim and what
Speaker 3: he's trying.
Speaker 4: To do with AI? What's Tim doing?
Speaker 3: Uh? Basically, isn't he got AI artists? Right? That's what
Speaker 3: he's trying to do. And he got backlash for it.
Speaker 4: I believe, what is it? Right?
Speaker 3: But it's an ar artist.
Speaker 2: And then and basically his whole thing was that, And
Speaker 2: I don't you know, I'm not quoting him forbade him,
Speaker 2: but he was just basically saying, look, I got ideas
Speaker 2: that maybe artists I work with don't have the same ideas,
Speaker 2: and I want to be able to put these ideas
Speaker 2: out and so aireartists, well, you know, allow him to
Speaker 2: do these things.
Speaker 4: Yeah, to me, I look at I look at I
Speaker 4: don't have nothing against like AI at all. Like I
Speaker 4: look at AI like a new tool. Like if you're creative,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. It's like a new tool.
Speaker 4: So it's like like I was telling somebody the other
Speaker 4: day that I had just said in this interview that
Speaker 4: I remember I had went to my first hip hop
Speaker 4: concert with Bone Thirst and Harmony and like I was like, yeah,
Speaker 4: I was like six seven years old and my pops
Speaker 4: took me. And then when we left, my pops was like, man,
Speaker 4: you know what, man, music is done. I'm like, man,
Speaker 4: what do you mean? And then he was like he
Speaker 4: was like, man, it was no instruments on the stage
Speaker 4: because he was used to going to like Ohio Players,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, Earth Winning Fire, like all
Speaker 4: those different bands, so he like it was no instruments
Speaker 4: on stage. He was like, it was just a DJ
Speaker 4: out there but turntables, dudes just yelling in a microphone
Speaker 4: like it's done. But like that same type of music
Speaker 4: and that culture, that hip hop culture right there, It's
Speaker 4: like I was able to move mountains with it, like
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. So it's like with AI,
Speaker 4: just at the same time where everybody's saying like shit
Speaker 4: is dry, shit has done, and shit sound the same,
Speaker 4: or this and that, this and that, and then it's like,
Speaker 4: oh they're doing AI. I still haven't heard the song
Speaker 4: or I haven't met anybody who's heard the song. And
Speaker 4: it's like hey bro, you got to hit this new
Speaker 4: AI shit like you know what I'm saying. No, But
Speaker 4: like even but a person can't wait to tell you, like, man,
Speaker 4: hey bro, you know this AI, right? They can't. They can't,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. They're like, you can you
Speaker 4: condamn there?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: You can damn there here like when it's AI. So
Speaker 4: you gotta utilize it like a tool. If you can't
Speaker 4: get a big choir, utilize it like that. Or if
Speaker 4: you can't get this so you can't get that, you
Speaker 4: gotta utilize it like that. But but that's like that's
Speaker 4: like if you get like a keyboard and you just
Speaker 4: go get the stock beats. Nobody goes to the keyboard
Speaker 4: and gets the stock beats. They use a keyboard and
Speaker 4: make beats. Like you know what I'm saying, Nobody expects
Speaker 4: to use the stock beats. So when you go to
Speaker 4: like these AI platforms, they showing you what it can do,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. But that's just showing you
Speaker 4: what it could do. Now you got to utilize the
Speaker 4: motherfucker like a keyboard or whatever. And you gotta utilize
Speaker 4: it like a tool and and and expand the sound
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, But you know, a certain
Speaker 4: certain people of creativity level just hit right here, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. It's all about.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: I mean, I think I think there's there's pros and
Speaker 5: concert because there's definitely I saw something.
Speaker 3: I don't know how accurate this report is.
Speaker 5: They said that some of the top music that was
Speaker 5: playing on Spotify was all AI generated groups.
Speaker 4: And and but at the same time, like right now,
Speaker 4: you know, at the same time, if somebody wasn't a
Speaker 4: student of the game, or wasn't like like a student
Speaker 4: of music, or wasn't a creator or like hasn't created
Speaker 4: any type of music, it's gonna be hard for them
Speaker 4: to pull up one of these AI you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying platforms or whatever, or the apps or whatever
Speaker 4: and and make a song.
Speaker 3: They already have to have it in them.
Speaker 4: It got to somewhere, It got to come from somewhere.
Speaker 4: So it's like like you got to even know like,
Speaker 4: oh man, let me mix this with that. And you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, it's just like cooking. You can
Speaker 4: go in the kitchen with a whole bunch of season
Speaker 4: and the sauces and protein and whatever. You know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. You can fuck the shit up, you can
Speaker 4: burn it, you can do whatever it is, like you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, or not cook it all the way, right,
Speaker 4: you can get sick and all that shit, or you
Speaker 4: can we got we got a cookoff. We can use
Speaker 4: the same season or whatever, and we can make two
Speaker 4: totally different dishes, like you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 4: it's like, it's all about how you use that shit,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. And if somebody uses the
Speaker 4: AI shit and it's cheesy, they will probably go in
Speaker 4: the studio make a cheesy joint too.
Speaker 3: But the argument could be made.
Speaker 5: You know, these tech companies are kind of like the
Speaker 5: new record labels, right, We kind of could say that
Speaker 5: the tech companies they're kind of like the new record
Speaker 5: labels in a sense. The streaming platforms, the social media
Speaker 5: music is being promoted a lot.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but it's different because the music. I just say
Speaker 4: it's different because those a more retail and like, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, record labels are more distribution.
Speaker 5: Right, right, but they distribute now through DSPs exactly retail, right,
Speaker 5: But it's not like old school where you had to
Speaker 5: go physically, and they're still using tech, is what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: The texts are now the gatekeeper the distribution.
Speaker 5: So my thing is that my worry is that just
Speaker 5: like the idea that maybe record labels at some point
Speaker 5: started dumbing down music to a degree to make it
Speaker 5: easier for them to reproduce it and.
Speaker 3: Make money off of it.
Speaker 5: And I have to deal with talent, real talent, you
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, Maybe this happens in AI like
Speaker 5: these DSPs, these tech companies eventually start phasing out. Like
Speaker 5: of course you're never going to be replaced, but it's
Speaker 5: I'm talking about the generation under you and the generation
Speaker 5: under that. If they started getting desensitized to real music,
Speaker 5: then AI becomes a problem.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's all about I feel like when they're kind
Speaker 4: of like being able to produce and like being able
Speaker 4: to create music. Man, all about how good of a
Speaker 4: student you were, you know what I'm saying, Like the
Speaker 4: best artists, the best producers, the best everything, they were
Speaker 4: a student of something of the music, you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. So it's like and then it's all about
Speaker 4: your your creativity level and how you collaborate. The best
Speaker 4: song is the best collaboration, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So at the end of the day, it's like I
Speaker 4: don't I don't see AI. Like I said, if once
Speaker 4: I hear that song, that's like I ain't gonna lie this.
Speaker 4: I can't go without hearing this song, Like you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. For the most part, it's still like
Speaker 4: artists that people are connecting to. Sometimes it might be songs.
Speaker 4: It's just you know what I'm saying, that's just playing
Speaker 4: and somebody might have created something that's easy on the
Speaker 4: ears and putting the right marketing dollars behind it and
Speaker 4: pushing it a certain type of way that you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying that, But you know, like that's cool.
Speaker 4: That's that's like their creation and that's what they push,
Speaker 4: and that's like it's gonna connect just like another song
Speaker 4: is gonna connect or like anything everything has. It's like
Speaker 4: like like its moments type shit, if that makes sense.
Speaker 4: And I just I just feel like the AI shit
Speaker 4: is like it's so broad that it's like it could
Speaker 4: be used as a tool or it could be used
Speaker 4: to make a whole song. And I don't think I
Speaker 4: don't think it's like US versus AI thing. I think
Speaker 4: it's like how do we utilize AI to make the
Speaker 4: biggest joint? And because you got the technology side, but
Speaker 4: then we're still real humans, Like we're still going outside,
Speaker 4: were still seeing shit, We're still hearing cars ride by,
Speaker 4: like you know what I'm saying, Like we still in
Speaker 4: the barbershops, We still like amongst people. So it's like
Speaker 4: you got that world just like just like you got
Speaker 4: the world where people sitting in the house with the
Speaker 4: gaggos all day and they be somewhere in the metaverse
Speaker 4: and all that kind of shit, Like you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying, Like you got that world, and you got
Speaker 4: like like the real world, like is that ship playing
Speaker 4: in the in the cars and the clubs and the
Speaker 4: radio or is the people playing there or people talking
Speaker 4: about it? Did the impact culture like you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying in any type of way, Like did anybody
Speaker 4: care that this joint came out? You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 4: And that's I think that's something that they're gonna have
Speaker 4: to figure out. It's like what's gonna be the presence
Speaker 4: with this AI person or this ar artist or whatever
Speaker 4: in the real.
Speaker 1: World questions about this song. What just give me one
Speaker 1: word DNA electrifying. We can't stop.
Speaker 4: I just said game change right, Uh, trend sting. Okay,
Speaker 4: they tell me that something won't gonna work really yeah,
Speaker 4: Well we can't because yeah, because at that time, pop
Speaker 4: radio was eighty m so it's at a certain tempo
Speaker 4: and we can't start was like this party. We can
Speaker 4: do what we want. And it's like, Bro, no matter
Speaker 4: what you do, Bro, you cannot slow down pop radio.
Speaker 4: It ain't gonna happen. Bro, They're not gonna let this
Speaker 4: sounds slow down pop radio. Like this is how it works.
Speaker 4: Ship changed the game.
Speaker 3: Oh I love this.
Speaker 4: Falling damn one word?
Speaker 3: Whatever you want to I'll accept whatever he said.
Speaker 4: Three words now, okay, all but falling that was I
Speaker 4: should like that, should like that should Damn there like
Speaker 4: a dream. Bro, I ain't gonna lie, you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying, because like I gotta tell a little story,
Speaker 4: I'm falling. I'm gonna keep it brief, but y'all got
Speaker 4: to drinking. Don't keep you know what I'm saying. But
Speaker 4: like man, shout out to DJ. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Like he was a part of a lot of eminem projects,
Speaker 4: Like you know what I'm saying the whole time. Yeah,
Speaker 4: So that's what Falling with the follow was on that.
Speaker 4: So was on that as well. Are you're talking about
Speaker 4: Oh are you talking about are you talking about Falling.
Speaker 3: Little palk about Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, okay x x X and Little Pete? Okay,
Speaker 4: that one is.
Speaker 3: That one?
Speaker 4: Is that one's that one's like wavy, Yeah, wavy salute
Speaker 4: to both of them, you know what I'm saying, resting,
Speaker 4: peace of resting, piece of Little Pete. But I was
Speaker 4: that was that was so both of them are yeah,
Speaker 4: God bless yeah, man, resting piece of both of them. Man,
Speaker 4: Like that was that was just that was just wavy.
Speaker 3: This record is totally different.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Now Falling it was a unique situation, man, because
Speaker 4: Maconey I had gave that beat to Maconey, you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, So like like, let's he's good. I'm
Speaker 4: thinking of Maconey had wrote the joint. You know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. He was already like what our with our
Speaker 4: production company, you know what I'm saying. He was part
Speaker 4: of that venture as well. Yeah, for sure, he part
Speaker 4: of that published adventure as well. Beat John He was
Speaker 4: one of my first signs, along with Race Trimmer you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, and yeah, so you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying, so so boom, Like I had gave him
Speaker 4: that beat and and he had he had him and
Speaker 4: little people were already working on the project, so him
Speaker 4: a little Pete had did the song together you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, and it was already a dope song.
Speaker 4: Then Wiz Khalifa did a song on the same beat,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, and it's like me and
Speaker 4: Wiz already had so much history, and then I was
Speaker 4: just trying to like figure out, like which one do
Speaker 4: I make another beat for? Both of the songs were
Speaker 4: like so good, you know what I'm saying, And and
Speaker 4: I thought Wiz was gonna end up using I thought
Speaker 4: he was gonna end up using that beat because he
Speaker 4: told me he was going to hold it. And and
Speaker 4: then that was the beat that Maconey and Pete ended
Speaker 4: up doing that song too. And then after that, after that, yeah, man,
Speaker 4: like that song was done. They had it on this project,
Speaker 4: and then I think like one of the music executives
Speaker 4: had let had let Xxx hit the record, like before
Speaker 4: he had passed and he heard it and was like, man, yo, yo,
Speaker 4: this is a this is a dope song like and
Speaker 4: he ended up doing a verse to it and then
Speaker 4: he ended up passing away. I never got a chance
Speaker 4: to meet xxx. I didn't even get a chance to
Speaker 4: meet him. And it's crazy. Man, my man, my man, Adam,
Speaker 4: my man, Adam Leber had had was just connect then
Speaker 4: that's right before he right before he passed away, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. But man, man, it was so talented,
Speaker 4: Like I wish we could have you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: I wish we could have Like I know, we would
Speaker 4: have went crazy right up. Yeah, Florida, dude, for sure.
Speaker 4: Imagine like this this is my note.
Speaker 3: You know, like I thought you met, Yeah, I won't
Speaker 3: thought you'll met.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Man, I wish I wish we would have met.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. I know we would have
Speaker 4: went crazy because he was another like young rock star
Speaker 4: that was like pushing it forward, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And to me, that's what you you do, like you
Speaker 1: make rock stars. Brake shrim is a rock star like Swimming.
Speaker 3: It's not like they rockstar like to me, that's what
Speaker 3: you made.
Speaker 4: But see I wouldn't even I won't even take the
Speaker 4: credit of like like I get what you're saying. I
Speaker 4: appreciate that, but I wouldn't take the credit of like
Speaker 4: making them you know what I'm saying, Like I can
Speaker 4: I can identify with a rock star head, you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. It's like like it's like it's like
Speaker 4: if it's like if we never wore a sup before
Speaker 4: and then were walking time for it, they already know like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 4: I need to put him in this, and like I
Speaker 4: need to cut it like this, and he gonna like
Speaker 4: it like that, like you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 4: it's like, yeah, that's like a tail that's like a tailor,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. So it's like I could
Speaker 4: see a rock shot and be like, man, I ain't
Speaker 4: gonna lie. He just need to do this right here,
Speaker 4: and like, man, we're gonna end up, you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying, doing some shit that's gonna change the game,
Speaker 4: Like you know what I'm saying, Like I knew what
Speaker 4: it was when I'm at Pluto, Like I knew what
Speaker 4: it was when I'm at Sway, Like I knew what
Speaker 4: it was when I'm at Macone, like I knew what
Speaker 4: it was when I'm at Like, I mean, Chief Keep
Speaker 4: was already you know what I'm saying, like kicking the
Speaker 4: door and making noise. You know what I'm saying. But
Speaker 4: that's my brother, Like you know what I'm.
Speaker 3: Saying, Like I love I love the fact that he
Speaker 3: was standing next to you.
Speaker 4: That's my brother right there. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Right up, you know what I'm saying. But now just
Speaker 4: knowing what it is sich for Ram, you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. Miley Cyrus is like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: You just seeing like the rock start. Like I can't
Speaker 4: say I made Miley Cyrus, but it's like, you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. We already she already had a major
Speaker 4: fan base of handle Mon Tennis. Like man, we just
Speaker 4: gave her a new identity or something that you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. That we was even vibing too, like damn,
Speaker 4: like hold up this shit kind of hard, like I
Speaker 4: fuck with this, Like you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 4: it's like it's like it's just it's just like being
Speaker 4: able to identify I don't I don't I don't make
Speaker 4: them they already are made. I just can identify, like
Speaker 4: the IT factor, you know what I'm saying, or up
Speaker 4: no matter how big or how up and coming or
Speaker 4: anything like I don't. I don't. I don't look at
Speaker 4: it like wave to ride like I always was trying
Speaker 4: to like create the wave, like with somebody like man,
Speaker 4: we're gonna create a wave, Like you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: Like as soon as y'all think y'all could seem I
Speaker 4: forget about UCJ, but we're finna come back. Bands, make
Speaker 4: a dance, smoking nigga. You know what I'm saying, show out,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, Stealing this bitch like twenty three,
Speaker 4: Like we're going crazy, like you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: Like as soon as y'all think that I could overlook future,
Speaker 4: Like I'm saying, we're going dirty, fright, ain't nowhere around
Speaker 4: the itching. You know what I'm saying, turn on the
Speaker 4: lights never in New Bugatti. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: Like all kinds of joints, ships back to back, like
Speaker 4: move that dope, like you know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 4: part of me, you know what I'm saying. And then
Speaker 4: it's like as soon as you think, like, I'll never
Speaker 4: listen to my style song. Man, you're talking about man
Speaker 4: with my Jay's on. You know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 4: now now overseas, they moving like this, They weren't never
Speaker 4: moving like this in certain rooms like you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying, Like they move into they move into the
Speaker 4: bounce like you know what I'm saying. And then it's like,
Speaker 4: but she cool enough to even want to even do
Speaker 4: that joint? You know what I'm saying, Trust to trust
Speaker 4: the process. Just be like, nah, my fan's not gonna
Speaker 4: like it. I don't do that kind of music. I'm
Speaker 4: not doing that right. It's too risky, you feel me,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. So that's rock star ship.
Speaker 3: Comes from that line, Pops.
Speaker 1: Yeah you kept that real nigga ship. Man, I swear
Speaker 1: to god. Man, let me just tell you something. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're taking a picture. But I don't ever want you
Speaker 1: to ever think that our culture don't understand how much
Speaker 1: you mean to us.
Speaker 4: Man. I love the culture. Man. I look, you know
Speaker 4: I used to think like that. I used to think
Speaker 4: like that, but I said it. I was like, Man,
Speaker 4: this next run is for everybody who believes. Man, because
Speaker 4: we man, you know what I'm saying, there's so many
Speaker 4: people that believe. There's so many people in the culture
Speaker 4: that's like that. Like you said, like man ended up
Speaker 4: telling me you got your back. Man, I appreciate that
Speaker 4: you believe you Man, there's more believe. Louder should be louder,
Speaker 4: But this is really louder because I ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 3: Ire, we got your back seems louder. That's let me
Speaker 3: change it. Thank Youtivity is way more you you Listen,
Speaker 3: you the man slam.
Speaker 4: Should in the case you don't know you for ten years.
Speaker 3: In case you don't know, listen, we got your back
Speaker 3: over here.
Speaker 4: That's hard, I.
Speaker 3: Mean, but said, and you kind of don't need us,
Speaker 3: but we want you to know that we got your back.
Speaker 1: We're here, we're here, regards we're here like like like
Speaker 1: like like you you kind of don't because you know
Speaker 1: ship nigga.
Speaker 4: You doing good but great.
Speaker 1: But guess what that's that that shouldn't be No, that's
Speaker 1: not what what what what we are doing over here?
Speaker 1: Let me just tell you something, Mike.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry. I don't mean to call you Mike.
Speaker 4: I don't know if I.
Speaker 3: Don't even know, I don't even get the will to
Speaker 3: call you right, let me just take something.
Speaker 4: But let me just take you something.
Speaker 3: You're one of the best producers out there.
Speaker 1: Brother and me and my brother this motherfucker right here.
Speaker 1: We love giving people they flowers. We love making sure
Speaker 1: that people understand that in hip hop.
Speaker 3: This is what we're doing. Legacy.
Speaker 1: This is your fucking home. Anytime you fucking yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah yeah, yeah yeah yeah. Anytime you fucking feel like
Speaker 1: you wanna not the pink toenails though, please, I'll bother
Speaker 1: tell christ.
Speaker 3: Let's just go to you want to promote your pink toenail? No, no, no, no,
Speaker 3: I got black toenails.
Speaker 4: That's horrible.
Speaker 3: That's horrible. What's my brother in law like, Oh my god,
Speaker 3: oh my look look look.
Speaker 1: Look, look, look at look good look looks oh I
Speaker 1: have black to nails. But listen, No, no, no, Mike
Speaker 1: will Mike. Well, let me just tell you somebody, this
Speaker 1: is your platform.
Speaker 3: This is your home.
Speaker 1: Anytime you ever want to put more, you want to talk,
Speaker 1: you want to tell people, you want to say that, yo,
Speaker 1: this is this is this.
Speaker 3: Is your platform, one million percent. And I look at that.
Speaker 11: Your watch, your watch is fucking fantastic, Mike, Mike, I
Speaker 11: just wanted you to know this.
Speaker 1: Whenever you want to talk anything, this is your platform.
Speaker 1: Look at us, This is your platform.
Speaker 3: Right ho day doll it on.
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