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Speaker 1: What the heck happened? An expert weighs in, it's one

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Speaker 1: more thing.

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Speaker 2: I'm strong and getty.

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Speaker 3: One more thing before we get to that.

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Speaker 2: Two quick things. One.

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Speaker 4: I just looked up at the Twitter machine and there

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Speaker 4: is something on there about young people in New York

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Speaker 4: talking about how they all got punched in the face

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Speaker 4: because of a recent TikTok challenge in which the thing

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Speaker 4: was to just walk up and punch people in the face,

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Speaker 4: and some of the morons do it. I want a

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Speaker 4: TikTok challenge that is, it's the leave your parents' house,

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Speaker 4: get a job and support yourself challenge, the follow the law,

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Speaker 4: pay your taxes, and raise your kids right challenge.

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Speaker 2: See if that catches on, it'll be waiting forever for that.

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Speaker 5: God.

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Speaker 4: I saw one the other day where there's a whole

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Speaker 4: bunch of iterations of this of like it's just abusing

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Speaker 4: old people, the scaring them basically, and.

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Speaker 1: It's just horrific, harsh and draconian penalty.

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Speaker 4: I act like somebody broke into the house for Grandma

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Speaker 4: and then and you know, get her reaction. Yeah, because

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Speaker 4: she's an old woman who thinks somebody broke into her home.

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Speaker 4: That's why she reacted that way. Why is that funny?

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Speaker 4: You freaking moron. You should be in jail just for this.

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Speaker 6: You know, it's concerning the people who do that and

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Speaker 6: the people who laugh at it.

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Speaker 4: Oh my god, this one was a I guess this

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Speaker 4: was a Jackass thing originally from the Jackass movie. But

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Speaker 4: I saw this on TikTok the other day. It was, uh,

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Speaker 4: you push a stroller with a baby in it, a

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Speaker 4: fake baby at toy the doll doll is the term

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Speaker 4: fake baby? Yeah, and bother say and the like, you know,

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Speaker 4: the stroller you accidentally trip and push it into traffic

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Speaker 4: in a car hits it or something like that, and

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Speaker 4: then you get there the reaction of people who are

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Speaker 6: Or you get the people that run out into traffic

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 6: There's another guy that's going he went viral the other

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Speaker 6: day that was going through like walmarts and targets and

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Speaker 6: going up to people that had full carts, families, I

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Speaker 6: mean everything, and just pulling the cart and knocking it

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Speaker 6: over and knocking this stuff everywhere and then running away

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Speaker 6: for no reason at all other than to be a dick.

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Speaker 4: Right, and then their friends film that and put it

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Speaker 4: on TikTok and then people watch it, and I think

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Speaker 4: that's okay.

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Speaker 2: I guess I, well I had them.

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Speaker 6: With the algorithm. Is the more attention they get, they

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Speaker 4: I'm glad you're young in complaining about this, because when

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Speaker 4: Joe and I complain about this, we just sound like

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Speaker 4: you know, old men about modern culture. But this is

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Speaker 4: a change in society.

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Speaker 1: Oh yees, yeah, well you're complaining about it. I'm even

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Speaker 1: now sketching out my plan to form a vigilante group

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Speaker 1: that's going to find these internet scoundrels and hunt them

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Speaker 1: down and give them some real world ass kickings.

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Speaker 2: Oh I know what it was.

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Speaker 4: So you take the car carrier thing that you put

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Speaker 4: and then come back and snap it into the car seat.

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Speaker 2: The person puts it on top of the.

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Speaker 4: Car and it does some stuff and then drives off

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Speaker 4: the reactions of everybody freaking out that you drove off

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Speaker 2: I do love that.

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Speaker 6: In New York, there is a hashtag I punch back,

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Speaker 6: and there are a series of videos of people I'll.

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Speaker 4: Tell you what, you come and knock over my cart

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Speaker 4: full of stuff with my kids there. I'm gonna have

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Speaker 2: And we're rappling around.

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Speaker 5: And find out huh oh god, dang it.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, this is troubling and disturbing in the

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Speaker 1: world is ugly and full of evil. Anyway, So it

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Speaker 1: turns out a giant cargo ship took out a bridge

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Speaker 1: The death toll is yet on unknown, but at a

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Speaker 1: terrible disaster and incredibly dramatic video as well. This posted

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Speaker 1: at Armstrong and Giddy dot com Tuesday, March twenty sixth Anyway,

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Speaker 1: got this note from twenty thirty two. I'm speaking to

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Speaker 3: Trump is in his fifteenth term. Finally, finally one party rule,

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Speaker 3: as we dreamed of secretly all those years we were

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Speaker 3: talking about the Constitution. So Al the Mariner, we'll just.

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Speaker 5: Call him Al anonymous.

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Speaker 1: I don't think he'd mind, but does this sort of

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Speaker 1: But i'll read you parts of his email to us.

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Speaker 1: I watched this with my captain and cadet. I don't

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Speaker 5: Yeah. Actually twice they lost power. She meaning the.

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Speaker 1: Driving a conning a ship or driving it isn't nearly

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Speaker 1: This ship has a bow thruster one, so okay, whooo.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to give him the encouragement.

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Speaker 2: That was great, Jack, Thank you for that child got.

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Speaker 4: My child is right, My son who's twelve, and I

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Speaker 4: don't think he knows what he's talking about, dropped to That's.

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Speaker 5: But I don't see that gives me hope for the

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Speaker 2: Were they discussing China on the playground?

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Speaker 1: So the ship has a bow thruster just like Jack,

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Speaker 1: one slow speed diesel engine, and one fixed pitch propeller.

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Speaker 1: Trying to make way a stern backing up In a

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Speaker 1: No, in a perfect world, it would take a few

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Speaker 2: Well, I know you're seafaring people, Katie.

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Speaker 4: Your dad has a boat and everything, and but if

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Speaker 6: Yeah, And I don't know if you guys saw that

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Speaker 2: I mean the power goes out twice.

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Speaker 6: So they're clearly having some big issues, let alone trying

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Speaker 1: And I'll get to that in just a second, but

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Speaker 4: If you've driven on snow or ice, you know this

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Speaker 1: So anyway, so they had that problem, and it takes

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Speaker 1: In the video, you can see the lights cut off

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that reminds me of the text we got that

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Speaker 5: Now uh yeah, yeah, uh.

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Speaker 1: do shit. But it makes it looks like you tried everything.

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Speaker 4: Oh okay, so that sau Just First of all, I

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Speaker 4: I would have said that myself. Why didn't they drop

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Speaker 4: the anchor? But don't run aground without having dropped both anchors,

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Speaker 4: or at least it looks like you tried.

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Speaker 2: That's pretty good.

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Speaker 5: Wow. Wow.

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Speaker 1: Things like this can have a number of things go wrong,

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Speaker 1: ranging from misjudgment from the pilot, of miscommunication between the

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Speaker 1: that caused a loss of power end or a propulsion shoot.

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Speaker 5: It could be all three.

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Speaker 1: I highly recommend keeping an eye on the YouTube channel

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Speaker 1: what is going on with shipping. The guy there does

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Speaker 1: a great job at explaining maritime and navy stuff, and

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Speaker 1: he'll break this down as soon as he has info.

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Speaker 4: So these great, big giant tanker ships that got all

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Speaker 4: those containers on them, and railroad cars and stuff like that,

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Speaker 4: or trailers for semis. I mean that gives you the perspective.

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Speaker 4: It's the only way you can get any perspective on

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Speaker 4: these things as they're sitting out in the ocean with

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Speaker 4: nothing next to them. You look at those things and

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Speaker 4: think he's one of those as like a train car

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Speaker 4: or a container or whatever it is. Yeah, and you think,

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Speaker 4: oh my god, that's a giant ship.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: But remember so we were at a port in West

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Speaker 4: from around the world. Remember that guy telling us stories

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Speaker 4: about those giant ships that come in and there aren't

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Speaker 2: Weird they all were. Yes, I do have you ever

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Speaker 2: heard this, Katie before?

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Speaker 4: But they're out there for months, and a lot of

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Speaker 4: people that work on these ships are very strange people,

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Speaker 4: because you're somebody that wants to be on a ship

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Speaker 4: dark of a ship's people.

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Speaker 1: These guys, uh don't even have visas, so they can't

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Speaker 1: or dock in some port that sounds interesting. They're not

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Speaker 2: They just stay in their dark ship. Special personality for

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Speaker 2: that job.

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Speaker 5: That was Frank, right, wasn't that his name? I don't know.

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Speaker 5: That was super interesting though.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And whenever I see those ships, that's what I

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Speaker 4: think of now, got some really strange mole people living

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Speaker 4: on that ship.

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Speaker 5: Romanian mole people. Must not be allowed off.

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Speaker 6: Comes out of my mouth every time we go on

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Speaker 6: the boat with my family, because we'll go out of

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Speaker 2: Always like, how do those how do they float? Right?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, they're you know, some terms are overused.

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Speaker 1: They are quite literally breathtaking to see from anywhere close

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Speaker 4: Well, they displaced more than the weight of the water.

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Speaker 4: Technically is how they float. But that's hard to imagine

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Speaker 5: Yeah, they what Oh.

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Speaker 2: Keep your shaft oiled? M right right?

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Speaker 5: Wow? And a clip from shaft. Yeah, that was just

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Speaker 5: all sorts of enterprise.

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Speaker 2: It was a multi media presentation you gave us there,

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Speaker 2: I know, Well, I guess that's it.