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Speaker 1: Ron An Aian.

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Speaker 2: I don't think auto repair shops are going away anytime soon.

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Speaker 1: I think one of the things that the powers that

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Speaker 1: you have to.

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Speaker 2: Realize is there's always going to be a place, because

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Speaker 2: there's always going to be the Sharons and the Joe's

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Speaker 2: and the joe Ann's.

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Speaker 1: You know, they don't want a new vehicle, they don't

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Speaker 1: need a new vehicle, and they.

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Speaker 3: Might be these psalms be the whiskey.

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Speaker 1: I'll smoke south these.

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Speaker 2: No way around it.

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Speaker 1: One day, I'm gonna die. The Sultan's gone kill me.

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Speaker 1: Might as well.

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Speaker 2: Be the car doctor. There are things you can and

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Speaker 2: can't do and shouldn't touch. If you pop the hood

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Speaker 2: and you look underneath it, anything in orange, stay away from.

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Speaker 2: That's all the high voltage stuff, and that will kill you,

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Speaker 2: plain and simple.

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Speaker 1: You don't want to touch it.

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Speaker 4: Welcome to the rate home of ron Andania, the Car Doctor.

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Speaker 4: Since nineteen ninety one, this is where car owners the

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Speaker 4: world overturned to for their definitive opinion on automotive repair.

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Speaker 4: If your mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick out

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Speaker 4: the phone and call in. The garage doors.

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Speaker 2: Are opening, but I am here to take your call

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Speaker 2: at eight five five five six ninety nine hundred and

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Speaker 2: now he running. Okay, So first things first, this hour,

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Speaker 2: definitely this hour, we're giving way a compy of Corvette

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Speaker 2: Stingray The Mid Engine Revolution, hardcover, color book, color picture book.

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Speaker 1: It's just Gorge's book.

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Speaker 2: We're just trying to clean out the gift closet for

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Speaker 2: the end of the year, and new stuff shows up

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Speaker 2: next year, and so some lucky winner this hour. I'll

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Speaker 2: leave it up to my number one favorite judge, the

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Speaker 2: elusive Tom Ray, and let him decide who should get

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Speaker 2: this hold out for the highest bitter.

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Speaker 1: Tom, I'm kidding, not kidding you. It's a nice book.

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Speaker 1: It really isn't.

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Speaker 2: No, you can't have it like you took the last three.

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Speaker 2: You know, this doesn't have Tom's fingerprints. Ono, they kept

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Speaker 2: it from him. So let's uh, let's kick the garage

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Speaker 2: doors open. Yeah, let's go right away. Let's go to

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Speaker 2: bread in South Carolina, Bred. Welcome to the car doctor, sir.

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Speaker 2: What's going on?

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Speaker 3: Hey? How you doing?

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Speaker 1: All right? What are you driving? What is this?

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Speaker 3: Exactly ninety nine Tacoma Toyota right?

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Speaker 2: What engine three four?

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Speaker 1: Okay? And what's going on? What's going on with it.

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Speaker 3: Well, about a year ago it started. I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I have to drive it ten or fifteen miles, so

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Speaker 3: I'm like it once I got get warm, if you stopped,

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Speaker 3: shut it off and want to crack it up and

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Speaker 3: go again, it'll be skipping, all right, I don't watch it.

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Speaker 1: Cool runs rough, yeah, okay.

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Speaker 3: And after you cool down, they'd run perfect again. And

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Speaker 3: then there's the running till you know, he shut it

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Speaker 3: off again and got hot and you know, cool back down,

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Speaker 3: and of course they'll get back to running normal.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 2: Ever, set any codes in it, well, I'll.

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Speaker 3: Put engine analyzer. Uh actually I put three on it,

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Speaker 3: three different ones, and uh they all kept leaning toward

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Speaker 3: knock sensor. Okay, and not as much as I hate

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Speaker 3: to think it was a knock sensor. I thought, well,

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Speaker 3: I'll put plugs in the wires, and uh, the cylinder

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Speaker 3: that was staying bad, you know, I went ahead and

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Speaker 3: get a Denzo cool, replaced the cool on that cylinder,

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Speaker 3: and I was still having problems. So I got to

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Speaker 3: tour it all part, put knock sensors in it, put

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Speaker 3: it back together, and it's to the point now it

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Speaker 3: just does it all the time.

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Speaker 6: You use it.

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Speaker 2: Who's whose knock sensors did you put in? Does it

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Speaker 2: still set the knock sensor fault?

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Speaker 3: Uh? I'm up the gaskets and sisters from the rock

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Speaker 3: auto right right?

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Speaker 1: But whose brand?

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Speaker 2: There's a couple of things going on here, Brad, all right,

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Speaker 2: who's so does it still set the knock sensor fault?

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Speaker 6: Uh?

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Speaker 3: No? I haven't checked it again since fled the supposed

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Speaker 3: to bring his scanner over. Clear, you know, Okay, all

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Speaker 3: the codes and let's let's.

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Speaker 2: Let's let's have a casual conversation, all right, kiddo, So

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Speaker 2: you know it's not likely a knock sensor fault that's

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Speaker 3: All right, that was my thoughts, exactly right. It's it's

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Speaker 3: it's it's the angelus the same thing, right.

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Speaker 2: But well, but it could have had it could have

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Speaker 2: a and remember, a knock sensor fault doesn't mean a

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Speaker 2: bad knock sensor. It just means the computer is seeing

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Speaker 2: a problem in that circuit, all right, Right Now, what's

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Speaker 2: common on these engines is, but you would have seen

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Speaker 2: it is that animals live under the intake manifold and

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Speaker 2: they will chew on the wiring right where the knock

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Speaker 2: sensors are the knock sensors are under the intake plant them?

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Speaker 1: Correct? You have to take the intake menifold off to

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Speaker 1: get to it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I replaced the wires going to them also.

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Speaker 2: Right where they chewed up. All right, So you're you're

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Speaker 2: you're lucky like that, but that's common. The reason I

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Speaker 2: ask what brand sensors is it seems like this is

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Speaker 2: one of those cars the aftermarket has their issues trying

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Speaker 2: to reproduce a good quality sensor. I'm not saying they're

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Speaker 2: all bad. You just have to be sensitive to quality

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Speaker 2: of part, all right. So the first question I've got

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Speaker 2: is did the noock sensor fault go away? Not that

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Speaker 2: I think that's causing your problem. I just want to

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Speaker 2: know that we eliminated something, all right, and and work

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Speaker 2: my way out from there.

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Speaker 1: Because the first.

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Speaker 2: Thing I'm to tell you is the easiest thing to

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Speaker 2: fix is what it's telling you is wrong. If it

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Speaker 2: still has a knock sensor fault. Let's figure that out,

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Speaker 2: all right, you know, Let's let's figure out if if

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Speaker 2: that will solve the problem, or whether or not that

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Speaker 2: solves the knock sensor fault. All right, that's number one.

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Speaker 2: So I want to deal with the knock sensor, and

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Speaker 2: you don't need anything fancy. Any code scanner that will

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Speaker 2: generate an OBD two fault code will work fine, all right.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't have to be anything more dramatic than that.

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Speaker 2: You can just go ahead and read, you know, OBD

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Speaker 2: two fault codes if you find after resolving the nock

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Speaker 2: maybe your buddy's gonna come over with his tool and

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Speaker 2: you're gonna clear the code.

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Speaker 1: And the problem is resolved.

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Speaker 2: Okay, you know, but you still have your hard start

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Speaker 2: problem while your buddy is there. Okay, I want you

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Speaker 2: to go in and do some just do some basic

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Speaker 2: engine measurements. You're with me. Here's what I want you

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Speaker 2: to look at. Okay, you got a pencil and paper.

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Speaker 2: I want you to all right, and if not listen,

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Speaker 2: If not, you can always this. This radio show will

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Speaker 2: become a podcast in about an hour. You can just

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Speaker 2: go out and google search ron and Inian podcast and

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Speaker 2: it'll be up on iHeartRadio and you can get it

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Speaker 2: there and you can get it at all the usual places.

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Speaker 2: This is hour two on today's date. And you know

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Speaker 2: you're about well, you're the first call out of the gate,

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Speaker 2: so you're you'll be easy to find in the clock.

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Speaker 2: But you know, I want you to look at mass

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Speaker 2: airflow sensor. You know, bring up OBD two. You don't

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Speaker 2: need to go in ear make model, just bring up

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Speaker 2: OBD two scan. All right, go look at the mass

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Speaker 2: airflow sensor PID. This is a three point four leader,

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Speaker 2: so that means add idle ad idle on a warm engine,

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Speaker 2: all else being equal, we should see roughly between three

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Speaker 2: and three and a half grams per second of airflow.

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Speaker 2: All right, the displacement of the engine is the giveaway

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Speaker 2: three three three six.

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Speaker 1: I'm good with it.

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Speaker 2: If the mass airflow is underreporting or overreporting, we'll see

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Speaker 2: something like two and a half or four four and

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Speaker 2: a half. That tells me I've got an airflow problem

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Speaker 2: and maybe that's contributing to your overall engine hard hots

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Speaker 2: restart issue.

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Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, now I have replaced mass airflow sensor.

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Speaker 2: Well, it may it may not be. Yeah, it may

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Speaker 2: not be the sensor. Now, maybe it is the sensor,

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Speaker 2: but it may not necessarily be the sensor. Maybe it's

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Speaker 2: a problem with an air duct. Maybe there's a vacuum

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Speaker 2: leak somewhere. Else in the system. Maybe there's a restriction.

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Speaker 2: That's why I want to go by numbers. If you

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Speaker 2: notice I haven't said replaced anything. I'm just trying to

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Speaker 2: give your heart rate and blood pressure. You with me, Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 2: So I want to look at mass airflow. I want

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Speaker 2: to look at coolant temp. Maybe your buddy scan tool

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Speaker 2: has a graphic function where it show the cool and

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Speaker 2: that it's hot. And if we graph it, and we

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Speaker 2: only graph the cool and temp sensor so we don't

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Speaker 2: slow down the processor of the scan tool, maybe we'll

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Speaker 2: see a dropout. Maybe we'll see an irregular heartbeat, if

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Speaker 2: you get what I'm saying, Maybe we'll see that cool

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Speaker 2: and temp sensor show a glitch where all of a sudden,

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Speaker 2: the car it's running at one hundred and eighty five degrees,

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Speaker 2: but the car thinks it's running at two hundred and

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Speaker 2: forty degrees. All right, that's the whole value of a grapher.

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Speaker 2: Maybe it's going to think it's running at thirty five

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Speaker 2: degrees when it really isn't. Now, one of the things

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Speaker 2: you can do is shut the car off. Cars warm

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Speaker 2: car won't start, turn the car on, don't start it, okay,

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Speaker 2: go in and look at the coolant pit, cool and temp.

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Speaker 2: What does it think cool and temp is? It'll typically

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Speaker 2: be within fifteen to twenty degrees of whatever it was

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Speaker 2: when you shut it off, which you should have written down,

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Speaker 2: all right, Yeah, and then let's go look at intake

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Speaker 2: air temp. There should be an iat PID. Now if

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Speaker 2: you were to look at a cold engine, all right,

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Speaker 2: just to get your brain around this. If you were

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Speaker 2: to go look at a cold engine and you looked

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Speaker 2: at intake air temp and coolant temp, what do you

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Speaker 2: think they should If it's sixty eight degrees out and

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Speaker 2: you're just looking at a cold engine that hasn't been started,

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Speaker 2: what do you think the cooling temp and intake airtempt

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Take a guess within.

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Speaker 2: That, yeah, right, because intake air temp and cool and

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Speaker 2: temp will be within ten degrees of each other. Intake

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Speaker 2: is more likely the indicator of what the ambient temperature is.

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Speaker 2: So if ambient sixty eight, I would expect intake air

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Speaker 2: tempt to be sixty eight, you know, sixty five to

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Speaker 2: seventy two. I'm okay with if If intake TEMPPID reads

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Speaker 2: sixty eight and the cooling temp pid reads thirty on

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Speaker 2: a cold engine. Something's wrong. So the cool intent is

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Speaker 2: starting at too low a scale for it to actually

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Speaker 2: be equal and to compensate accordingly. You get me, all right,

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Speaker 2: So let's go look at some of the basic things,

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Speaker 2: and then once the engine is running, take a look

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Speaker 2: at short term long term fuel trips sitting near hot

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Speaker 2: engine idle?

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Speaker 1: All right? Where are they? Just write them down? You

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Speaker 1: can call me back.

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Speaker 2: The other thing I want you to consider over by

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Speaker 2: the battery trade. What does the battery look like on

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Speaker 1: But take a look. Take a look.

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Speaker 2: Underneath the battery tray on the ninety nine's was a ground,

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Speaker 2: If memory serves me right, there was a body ground

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Speaker 2: It would also be nice, you know, engine fuel pressure.

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you what's bad. Do those things call me back.

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Speaker 2: I'm here for you, buddy. We can fix this. I'm

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Speaker 5: Don't go away.

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Speaker 4: Need advice on how to maintain that classic gto Ron

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Speaker 4: is the guy eight five five five six zero nine

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Speaker 1: Here's Ron.

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Speaker 2: Hey, let's take it right out to Iowa and talk

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Speaker 2: to Kathy. Kathy, welcome to the car doctor. How can

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Speaker 7: Thank you, welcome and Merry Christmas?

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Speaker 1: Christmas? Thank you, thank you so much.

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Speaker 3: I tried.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: I enjoyed listening to you when I can when I'm driving, but.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate it.

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Speaker 7: I have a legacy Super twenty fifteen, a lot of

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Speaker 7: it needed a new catalytic converter, and the dealer was

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Speaker 7: saying something about five thousand dollars. I couldn't afford that.

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Speaker 7: Then I found out about a place that had after

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Speaker 2: I think there are places and points where after market

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Speaker 2: makes perfect sense. So here's a car that's ten years

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Speaker 2: the the aftermarket cat I'm going to venture to say,

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Speaker 2: maybe less than the five thousand, right.

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Speaker 1: I don't think.

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Speaker 2: I don't think you'll get Yeah, I don't think you'll

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Speaker 2: get ten years out of that after market cat. I think,

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Speaker 2: in all probability, depending upon what sort of maintenance the

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Speaker 1: To five and another three to five years. You know,

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Speaker 1: where will you be four hundred thousand miles?

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Speaker 7: I'll be over that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay. I drive a.

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Speaker 7: Lot come school music lessons, and I put a lot

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Speaker 2: So I think you're fine. I think you're fine. I

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Speaker 2: you know, they're reliable and honorable and they'll be there

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Speaker 2: And to me, that's the biggest part of that's probably

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Speaker 2: a repair shop only sells three things. It sells parts,

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Speaker 2: it sells it sells labor, and it sells expertise. And

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Speaker 2: that that expertise, to me, expertise is honor, expertise, doing

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Speaker 2: all of that, that's all there, That's all part of it.

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Speaker 2: And as long as they do that, then I think,

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Speaker 2: I think you're fine.

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Speaker 7: So you know, just keeping I think it has I

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Speaker 7: think it has an oil leak because I'm adding oil.

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Speaker 7: It's probably burning oil. But I don't know if I

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Speaker 5: Fixed.

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Speaker 7: They tried to do a dye thing to diagnose it,

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Speaker 7: but they aren't sure where's coming from. But if I

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Speaker 7: just keep adding oil, you know about courting between changes?

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Speaker 7: Is that?

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Speaker 1: A court in between changes? Uh? You know how big

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Speaker 7: Well, I don't see it because there's like an oil

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Speaker 7: But I think it's burning it, you know, leaking out

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Speaker 1: Well?

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Speaker 2: And then and then here's here's the other concern. If

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Speaker 1: Uhh uh oh right, So you know, maybe what they

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Speaker 2: Let me back up a second. An oil leak losing

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Speaker 2: a court. What's your oil change interval?

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Speaker 1: Kathy? Five thousand miles? Three thousand miles?

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Speaker 7: I do it. I do it about seven thousand on them, okay, car.

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Speaker 2: So first of all, I think you're going too long

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Speaker 2: to tell you that. So why don't we cut Why

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Speaker 2: don't we cut the oil change interval down to five?

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Speaker 1: All right?

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Speaker 2: And and monitor monitor our oil loss? See how low

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Speaker 6: No, I'm yeah, well oil oil does.

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Speaker 2: Oil does a funny thing. The older it gets, the

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Speaker 2: more miles it has on it, the more beat it is,

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Speaker 2: the faster it'll burn. All right, It's it's just it's

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Speaker 2: just a characteristic. I've had cars that, you know, if

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Speaker 2: they're doing the oil change at five thousand, they're good.

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Speaker 2: If they start doing the oil change at six, seven,

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Speaker 2: up on consumption. So that's why I say, if you

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Speaker 2: that's that's one of the questions on my mind. All right.

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Speaker 2: But if this, yeah, if this was a quart in

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Speaker 2: mess of an oil leak. It's gonna it's gonna exceed

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Speaker 2: The oil should be dripping off the back bumper. I

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Speaker 2: think it's burning it. The question is at what rate?

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Speaker 2: And can you contain it by doing shorter oil change

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Speaker 2: intervals so you don't ruin the new catalytic converters.

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Speaker 1: Things to be answered. Keep me posted. I'm running in

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Speaker 3: Doctor.

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Speaker 1: I'll be back right after this. Oh the mods.

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Speaker 2: Hey, let's get over and talk to Bruce and Virginia. Bruce,

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Speaker 2: how can I help you? In your Row one Honda

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Speaker 2: Odyssey run an Innian at your servicer?

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Speaker 3: Hi?

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Speaker 6: How are you today?

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Speaker 1: I'm good? What's going on?

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Speaker 6: Yeah? It's as he has one hundred sixty five thousand

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Speaker 6: changed the alternatives brand new. They started new battery is

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Speaker 6: It starts cut off on me tours where I get

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Speaker 6: I said, maybe Honda, they can figure it out. So

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Speaker 6: So I took it back to the Honda. They said

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Speaker 6: that was a problem, but it might be another problem. Okay.

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Speaker 6: I said, maybe egr, there's or something in and that

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Speaker 6: It's to cost a lot of money because I'm unemployed

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Speaker 2: So let me ask, let me, let me, let me

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Speaker 2: ask a couple questions, Bruce, When when you take it

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Speaker 6: Yeah, they told that. That's what I told me the

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Speaker 6: and then figured it out. Right, that's when it when

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Speaker 2: But has anybody seen it fail? Listen to what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: Has anybody seen it fail? Has anybody driven this and

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Speaker 2: had it thought okay? And and what sort of conclusion

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Speaker 2: have they come to? It doesn't sound like they've come

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Speaker 6: When the first shop because be out, I don't know

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Speaker 6: if you have a bat order. But and then he

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Speaker 6: said they couldn't figure it out. That's why it took

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Speaker 6: But four but finally they said the field pump. So

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Speaker 6: And then when they change the field pump is still

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Speaker 6: I don't have the money to you know, to do.

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Speaker 1: I get that here, Let's do this, Let's do this.

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Speaker 2: Listen, Listen to what I say, all right, so this

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Speaker 2: I want to talk about what it probably isn't, but

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Speaker 2: I want to mention it. First of all, you've got

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Speaker 2: heard you say anything about any testing anybody's done. They've

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Speaker 2: So that being said, all right, there are top dead

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Speaker 1: A crank position sensor.

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Speaker 2: The top dead center sensors are not common to fail,

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Speaker 2: it will cause the vehicle to shut off, and then

441
00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:48,680
Speaker 2: as it cools down it'll restart again. Well but again, yeah,

442
00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:52,320
Speaker 2: but can it be duplicated? All right, There's three things

443
00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:56,000
Speaker 2: on my mind thinking about this vehicle, top, dead center,

444
00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:59,600
Speaker 2: and crank position sensors, which are easy enough to test

445
00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:02,840
Speaker 2: with a lab scope once you verify the condition, all right,

446
00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:05,160
Speaker 2: I want to. I want to look at and make

447
00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:09,560
Speaker 2: sure all the grounds, especially PCM engine control grounds, are

448
00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:14,439
Speaker 2: clean older vehicle high mileage, right, I want to. I

449
00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:20,560
Speaker 2: want to consider the possibility of the main PGM relay,

450
00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:22,919
Speaker 2: the main fuel injection relay that supplies power to the

451
00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:27,320
Speaker 2: fuel pump. A bad relay will cause that fuel pump

452
00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:30,199
Speaker 2: to cut out and cause the vehicle to stall. One

453
00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:32,080
Speaker 2: of the things I would do is, and this is

454
00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:35,360
Speaker 2: something they can do right off the bat, tell them

455
00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:37,320
Speaker 2: to locate the relay for the fuel pump.

456
00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:39,240
Speaker 1: All right.

457
00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:41,640
Speaker 2: As stupid as this sounds, and I admit it sounds

458
00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:45,720
Speaker 2: stupid and untechnical, right, take a take a medium sized

459
00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:48,679
Speaker 2: screwdriver and tap the top of that relay. Does the

460
00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:52,240
Speaker 2: vehicle shut off? The reason I like the the reason

461
00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:54,920
Speaker 2: I like the tap test is this.

462
00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:57,520
Speaker 1: Have you ever driven over a bumpy road?

463
00:23:59,119 --> 00:23:59,359
Speaker 3: Yeah?

464
00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:02,560
Speaker 2: Right, you would think a relay has to withstand bump

465
00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:06,560
Speaker 2: and shock, right, right? If you if you tap a

466
00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:08,560
Speaker 2: relay and the vehicle shuts off. I don't care what

467
00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:11,040
Speaker 2: it is. We do this test on Fords all the time,

468
00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:13,000
Speaker 2: back when Ford had a separate relay for their fuel

469
00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:16,040
Speaker 2: pump and PCM. Okay, we found many a bed. We

470
00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:19,000
Speaker 2: found many a bad relay, especially on an older high

471
00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:22,240
Speaker 2: mileage vehicle, where the internals of the relay were starting

472
00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:24,159
Speaker 2: to get You know, they're tired, they've been through a

473
00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:27,000
Speaker 2: lot of thermal cycles. All right, they're not They're not

474
00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:30,600
Speaker 2: as crisp as they once were, all right, But.

475
00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:32,239
Speaker 1: I want to know that. I want to know.

476
00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:34,119
Speaker 2: The Other thing I could do is if if the

477
00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:37,600
Speaker 2: relay for the one and I think there is, I

478
00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:39,800
Speaker 2: sort of think the fog light relay is the same

479
00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:41,359
Speaker 2: as the fuel pump relay. I'd have to look at

480
00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:43,320
Speaker 2: a wiring diagram to recall, because it's a little over

481
00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:44,280
Speaker 2: twenty five years ago.

482
00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:49,800
Speaker 6: Uh. You know, they they told me they checked everything

483
00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:52,520
Speaker 6: the relay fuses.

484
00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:55,280
Speaker 1: Ask them, had they checked their relays? Listen? Listen.

485
00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:58,240
Speaker 2: If they checked everything and they still sold you a

486
00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:00,440
Speaker 2: fuel pump and a fuel pump should have fixed, that's

487
00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:01,960
Speaker 2: your argument, right.

488
00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:05,720
Speaker 6: Right, That's why I told him, Yeah right.

489
00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:07,879
Speaker 2: I mean the next conversation with them has to be

490
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,840
Speaker 2: when they tell you it's this or that. The conversation

491
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:13,120
Speaker 2: you have to ask. You have to ask the ultimate question.

492
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:17,200
Speaker 2: You're ready for the ultimate question. Yes, will this fix

493
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:19,560
Speaker 2: my problem? It's a yes or no answer.

494
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:23,720
Speaker 6: And that's what the manager told me. He said, even

495
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,879
Speaker 6: if you fixed something else, it might not fix it,

496
00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:30,639
Speaker 6: you know, so he said, even they said, if you

497
00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:33,600
Speaker 6: take out the e g R fix it clinic or

498
00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:37,000
Speaker 6: put it back, it costs the money. But midnight must

499
00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:40,040
Speaker 6: fix it. So that's why that's what I'm when. You're

500
00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:43,919
Speaker 6: probably right because whenever I told him, whenever the car

501
00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,760
Speaker 6: is hits off, its costs shut off. When you told

502
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:50,040
Speaker 6: me something hit off sometimes so when not driving it

503
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:53,000
Speaker 6: for a while, like sometimes it doesn't cut off, but

504
00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:55,119
Speaker 6: like when I was a part of the car or

505
00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:57,520
Speaker 6: while I was driving, and when the cost is hit

506
00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:00,000
Speaker 6: off and then it's shut off, that's what exactly.

507
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:02,879
Speaker 2: And the only way and the only way you're going

508
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:04,480
Speaker 2: to catch it is with the lab scope. Let me

509
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:06,480
Speaker 2: ask you this real quick before the clock grabs me.

510
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:09,280
Speaker 2: Does this shut off clean like you turned off the

511
00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:12,560
Speaker 2: ignition or is it a stumble stutter you know, cough

512
00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:14,560
Speaker 2: and a mist to a fault?

513
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:20,120
Speaker 6: No, it goes like it just shot off clean, like.

514
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:21,320
Speaker 1: Like you turned off the key.

515
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:27,320
Speaker 6: Right. And then I learned a trick in the internet.

516
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:30,720
Speaker 6: It said, like when you turn off stick. Originally, when

517
00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:32,840
Speaker 6: you wait five minutes, you start right off. But I

518
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:36,639
Speaker 6: learned a trick like the internet. He said, if you

519
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:40,560
Speaker 6: sort of like turn off the switch several times and

520
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:43,879
Speaker 6: leave it for two seconds and often not three times,

521
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:46,240
Speaker 6: and it starts. So I did it. It worked last time.

522
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:46,760
Speaker 1: Okay.

523
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:48,840
Speaker 2: The other thing I want you to consider is does

524
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:53,919
Speaker 2: this have a bad ignition switch in it? Checked that well,

525
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:55,679
Speaker 2: they checked it, but if they checked it when it

526
00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:56,920
Speaker 2: was working, how would they know.

527
00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:00,080
Speaker 1: Besides which, it's.

528
00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:02,679
Speaker 2: Like, it's two hundred and sixty five thousand miles on

529
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:04,679
Speaker 2: an almost twenty five year old vehicle. You know how

530
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,240
Speaker 2: many cycles of the key that ignition switch has been through.

531
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:10,359
Speaker 2: Nine and the two the ninety nine and the two

532
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:13,359
Speaker 2: thousand's had a recall and even some of the even

533
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:16,240
Speaker 2: even some of the early two thousand ones were affected

534
00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:19,200
Speaker 2: by it. So you know, they've got to do They've

535
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 2: got to do some thorough testing. And the only way

536
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:23,359
Speaker 2: I know to test and ignition switches, you've got to

537
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:26,399
Speaker 2: measure voltage coming in and voltage going out in the moment,

538
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:28,000
Speaker 2: at the moment of failure.

539
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 1: Do this. Do this, Bruce, stay on the line. Tom's

540
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 1: gonna get your information.

541
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 2: We're gonna send you out a copy of the book

542
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:36,640
Speaker 2: we're giving away today, Corvette Stingray The Mid Engine Revolution.

543
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:38,440
Speaker 2: It'll give you something to read while you're stuck on

544
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:40,200
Speaker 2: the side of the road. Hopefully not for too long,

545
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 2: but maybe it'll ease the pain that they're putting you through.

546
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 2: I think you could use a little holiday cheer this

547
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:46,800
Speaker 2: time of year, So do that. Let Tom get your info.

548
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:48,720
Speaker 2: We'll send the book out to you this week. And

549
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,200
Speaker 2: I'm sorry you're going through this, brother. Ask them those

550
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:53,240
Speaker 2: questions and come back to me and give me some

551
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 2: more and we'll do what we can to help you

552
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:56,720
Speaker 2: fix this vehicle. I'm ronning any and the car doctor.

553
00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:57,720
Speaker 2: We're back right after this.

554
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 1: See.

555
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:20,240
Speaker 2: I think in the case of Bruce and that Honda,

556
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:22,480
Speaker 2: that's a typical example of when they say, well, we

557
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 2: tested everything, Yeah, had you test it? Because it's hard

558
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:29,439
Speaker 2: to test everything. And if you tested everything and you

559
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:33,199
Speaker 2: had come to an absolute conclusion, oh, I don't know,

560
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 2: let's put a percentage on it, you would think eighty

561
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:37,360
Speaker 2: five ninety percent of the time you found the problem

562
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 2: right research Kathy and her trailblazer. She's been having this

563
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 2: problem for the past year and a half, and I've

564
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 2: been listening to her to describe it to me for

565
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 2: a while because it never was serious enough. It was

566
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 2: always this intermittent thing. We could never catch it in

567
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 2: the act. And about three weeks ago she finally said

568
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 2: the magic words. She said, and when it happens, because

569
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:02,239
Speaker 2: it happens once in a while, I smell fuel and

570
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 2: it won't it's a hard restart. And in old fairness,

571
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 2: I had seen it do the hard restart once the

572
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 2: week prior we had it in for service. I kind

573
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 2: of knew what it was at that point, fuel hard restart.

574
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:16,240
Speaker 2: I saw it chugging. I pulled off the vacuum line

575
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 2: going to the fuel pressure regulator and fuel came out.

576
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 2: Fuel is not supposed to do that. We'd put a

577
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 2: fuel pressure regulator in it. The one hundred and fifty

578
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 2: six thousand mile two thousand and two Trailblazers fixed. My

579
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 2: point is you're gathering information, you're diagnosing, You're you're trying

580
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 2: to understand the problem and think outside the box. You know,

581
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,480
Speaker 2: I guarantee I want to bet money they didn't really

582
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 2: test that ignition switch. How would you test it. I

583
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 2: haven't heard anybody say that. Well, we put a voltage

584
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 2: in and out and we looked at the switch to

585
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 2: see did it start to fail or start to drop down.

586
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 2: Most of these diagnoses take time, and I'm not hearing that.

587
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 2: When I listened to the caller. I think Bruce's car

588
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:55,960
Speaker 2: is repairrable. I just think they're going to have to

589
00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 2: put some time in it. And you know, GRL sticking

590
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:04,480
Speaker 2: is not going to put a vehicle into a shut off,

591
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 2: die clean problem. It'll cause it to stumble and stall

592
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 2: and shake. It'll struggle to keep itself running, but it

593
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,240
Speaker 2: won't shut it off like a key turned it off.

594
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 2: So somebody's missing a diagnosis. And maybe the shop isn't

595
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:19,959
Speaker 2: asking the questions. I'm asking nothing. I'm gonna be all

596
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 2: and end all, But I kind of try to put

597
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 2: myself in the position of the engine. What is that

598
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 2: engine looking for? What is it missing, what is it lacking?

599
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:30,960
Speaker 2: What is it doing? I tell you this because if

600
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,760
Speaker 2: you're in this situation and you go through this with

601
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:35,560
Speaker 2: a car with a mechanic You've always got to ask

602
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:39,240
Speaker 2: the magic question, will this fix my problem? And you've

603
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:41,280
Speaker 2: got to watch their body language. You've got to watch,

604
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 2: you know, do they shift their feet, do they look down,

605
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:45,960
Speaker 2: do they look up? Do they maintain good contact with

606
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 2: the eyes?

607
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:48,760
Speaker 1: Are they sure? Listen?

608
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 2: I've been in situations I've told people, you know, I'm

609
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:54,200
Speaker 2: in the ninety percent tile. Usually when I get to

610
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 2: the ninety percent tile, I'm right. I'm not always right.

611
00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 2: There's sometimes there's an extenuating circumstance. None of this is

612
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 2: perfect to some degree. But this poor guy sounds like

613
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 2: he's been running around the mill, and I don't understand

614
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 2: why somebody's allowing it to go on. So it's time

615
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 2: for the magic question. Will this fix my problem? Is

616
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 2: the next up? For the record, I think I've done

617
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 2: two hond of fuel pumps in my fifty three years.

618
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 2: That's how that's how reliable Honda fuel pumps are. So

619
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 2: could it be a bad pump, sure, it's possible. Could

620
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 2: it be a bad relay more likely? And that's why

621
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 2: I want the tap test done to that fuel pump.

622
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 2: Relay A five five, five six zero nine nine zero zero.

623
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 2: I'm run an ending of the Car Doctor. We'll be

624
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 2: back to wrap it up right after this.

625
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 1: Welcome back, we kind of wind it up.

626
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 2: You know, Hey, this this is the New Year's Show, right, Yeah,

627
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:52,720
Speaker 2: New Year's is gonna be We're gonna have New Year's

628
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 2: Eve between now and next year. So next year will

629
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 2: be the first day of New Year's right, it'll be

630
00:31:57,560 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 2: our New Year's show.

631
00:31:58,720 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 1: Look at that.

632
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 2: We'll be here New Year's Eve. We will be live

633
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 2: next weekend as well, in case anybody's wondering. So Saturdays

634
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 2: two to four East Coast time, we go out across

635
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 2: the network and then you know, on delay as accordingly

636
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 2: as the other affiliates take it. And we're thankful that

637
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 2: they take it, and we're thankful of all you people.

638
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 2: You know what, just a little pause and to look back.

639
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 2: It's just great to be here, to be able to

640
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 2: do this and continue to do it. I think that means,

641
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 2: let me see if next year's the beginning of the

642
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:27,480
Speaker 2: New year. Nineteen ninety one, thirty four years on radio,

643
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 2: and they said it wouldn't last.

644
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:30,959
Speaker 1: The last twelve of them.

645
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 2: With Tom Ray, the absolute best engineer in the business,

646
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 2: the guy who get me on the air with a

647
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 2: juice can and a string.

648
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 1: So thanks, so stop.

649
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 2: I'm not going to be nice to you forever, so

650
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 2: don't get used to it, you know, But I mean

651
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 2: that in all sincerity. Tom, you are the best, and

652
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 2: I'm grateful to have you. God was good to me

653
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 2: when he gave.

654
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 1: You to me.

655
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 2: So anyway, do that be aware of that next year's

656
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 2: New Year's. If you're looking for car doctor t shirts

657
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 2: and hats and sweatshirts and all that stuff, we did

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Speaker 2: what you asked.

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Speaker 1: We created a store.

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Speaker 2: If you go out the Car Doctors Show dot com,

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00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 2: click over to the right, you'll see the button that

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Speaker 2: says merchandise, which I don't know if I like the

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Speaker 2: merchandise title.

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Speaker 1: On that button. I'm looking for I don't know, maybe

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Speaker 1: gear and apparel.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Maybe they can't fit it on the button. Maybe merchandise

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Speaker 2: or car doctor store hats, T shirts, coffee cups. I

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Speaker 2: really like the coffee cups. I use one myself. It's

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Speaker 2: just a nice cup. It's got a nice handle on it.

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Speaker 2: I want to say it helps me, well, maybe it

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Speaker 2: does help me fix cars. It kind of keeps me relaxed.

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Speaker 2: I use mine for ta but Car Doctorshow dot Com

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Speaker 2: you can click over on the merchandise button and to

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Speaker 2: your heart's content hats, t shirts and so forth of

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Speaker 2: a car, doctor, apparel and items. So that's there for

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Speaker 2: you anyway. Let me answer this email real quick. This

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Speaker 2: came to with James. He's got a two thousand and

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Speaker 2: nine ZO six Corvett he bought new with twenty eight

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Speaker 2: thousand miles on it. He's done nothing but oil changes.

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Speaker 2: I'm wondering what if anything I should consider for preventative maintenance. Brother,

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Speaker 2: Let's see two thousand and nine, so it's fifteen years old.

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Speaker 2: If it's wet, change it. And by that I mean

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Speaker 2: any fluids. All right, you know, everything's got miles on it,

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Speaker 2: everything's got time on it. Rather, I'm sorry, everything's got

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Speaker 2: time on it.

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Speaker 1: So you know, if you're.

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Speaker 2: Gonna to drive it come this spring, by all means,

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Speaker 2: let's you know, let's let's let's change all the fluids.

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Speaker 2: Let's do a real fuel system cleaning. And by that

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Speaker 2: I mean, well, you should be using a tank additive anyway,

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Speaker 2: because I like tank aditives in between, you know, services,

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Speaker 2: and it's just good for a vehicle that sits a lot.

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Speaker 2: But I would like to see you you know, take

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Speaker 2: a look and consider, I'm doing a formal fuel system cleaning.

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Speaker 2: You know, a good kit, one of the ones I

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Speaker 2: saw the other day. See if you can find somebody

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Speaker 2: in the area that uses BG BG fuel system products.

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Speaker 2: They've got a method that I think right now they're

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Speaker 2: usurping everybody.

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Speaker 1: I like what they do. But the BG fuel system.

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Speaker 2: Cleaning kits that the professional shops are using, I think

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Speaker 2: they're very worthwhile and I think that'll do a great

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Speaker 2: job for you.

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Speaker 1: Take a look at belts and hoses. They're fifteen years old.

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Speaker 2: They're probably okay, but you know, we don't want to

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Speaker 2: get stuck somewhere. And I'm sure by now you're aware

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Speaker 2: of the battery. You've either got it on trickle charge

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Speaker 2: this winter, or you've replaced it or in the process

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Speaker 2: of replacing it. Three to four, four years maybe five

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Speaker 2: at the outside. Those are the things I'd be doing

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Speaker 2: until the next time. I'm Ron an Andy in the

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Speaker 2: car doctor, reminding each and every one of you be

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Speaker 2: safe this new year. Good mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless.

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Speaker 3: See y