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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to tech Stuff, a production from iHeartRadio. Heydarren, Welcome

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<v Speaker 1>to tech Stuff. I'm your host, Jonathan Strickland. I'm an

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<v Speaker 1>executive producer with iHeart Podcasts and how the tech are you? Friends?

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<v Speaker 1>Let me tell you a story. It's a sad story,

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<v Speaker 1>and for folks like me, it's also a scary story.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyone who was in online writing or online journalism found

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<v Speaker 1>it to be a scary story. It's also a tale

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<v Speaker 1>that gets us angry because at the heart of it

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<v Speaker 1>were lies, or at least mistakes that a platform told

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<v Speaker 1>to advertisers in an effort to get more money. But

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<v Speaker 1>those lies or mistakes helped justify some really harmful decisions

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<v Speaker 1>across multiple companies. So we're talking about the infamous pivot

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<v Speaker 1>to video. Now, to understand pivot to video, we actually

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<v Speaker 1>need to set the stage a little bit. So first up,

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<v Speaker 1>let's talk about the business of online content. For most outlets,

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<v Speaker 1>revenue comes from advertising. The online platform sets aside certain

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<v Speaker 1>landscape upon which advertisers can place clients' ads, and these

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<v Speaker 1>may be static or dynamic, meaning if it's static, you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to see the same ad every single time you

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<v Speaker 1>go to that piece of content. If it's dynamic, then

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<v Speaker 1>it could change out right, and it'll change out depending

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<v Speaker 1>upon an algorithm that's trying to make sure that each

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<v Speaker 1>ad that's been sold is getting the number of eyeballs

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<v Speaker 1>that were promised. The whole business of online advertising gets

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<v Speaker 1>really complicated, and I've covered it elsewhere, so we're not

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<v Speaker 1>going to dive into it too much. Just know that

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<v Speaker 1>online ads were the big, big revenue source. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>some platforms experimented with paywalls and subscriptions, but very few

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<v Speaker 1>of those worked. All touch on that again later. Now. Ideally,

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<v Speaker 1>the people who are actually behind making the content, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the writers and the editors, they don't need to be

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<v Speaker 1>concerned with any of that. That's not their job. They

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<v Speaker 1>go on writing and editing. The journalists do their investigative work,

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<v Speaker 1>and they identify leads, and they follow up with those leads,

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<v Speaker 1>and they check sources, and generally they do the very

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<v Speaker 1>hard work the journalists do in order to get the

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<v Speaker 1>truth out to the public. Folks who are like me,

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<v Speaker 1>whom I would classify myself as a writer, not a journalist.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't have it nearly as tough as journalists do.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I don't want to give anyone any feelings that

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<v Speaker 1>somehow my job was as tough as being an investigative journalist.

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<v Speaker 1>It certainly wasn't. But you know, we also have to

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<v Speaker 1>do things like we have to research, and we have

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<v Speaker 1>to check sources, and we have to make reasonably sure

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<v Speaker 1>that the stuff that we're writing is accurate. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>our reputations are on the line, and our jobs are

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<v Speaker 1>often on the line. But I would say the lift

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<v Speaker 1>is lighter to journalists, at least in my opinion, in

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<v Speaker 1>my experience, based upon what I know now, good writers

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<v Speaker 1>should command a decent salary, and good journalists definitely should

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<v Speaker 1>command a good salary. They possess talents and skills that

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<v Speaker 1>aren't necessarily universal. It's not like you could just fire

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<v Speaker 1>somebody and hire some random person off the street and

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<v Speaker 1>get the same result. Right, to be a good journalist

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<v Speaker 1>or a good writer requires a lot of dedication. It

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<v Speaker 1>requires skill and talent and practice, and without these things,

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<v Speaker 1>the quality of the overall site would become garbage. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>it wouldn't necessarily be worth advertising on either, right, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>if the quality of the site goes down and that

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<v Speaker 1>means fewer people go to it, then advertisers don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to put ads on that site. It doesn't make sense

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<v Speaker 1>that those ads aren't going to be seen, so why bother. However,

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<v Speaker 1>we all know that sometimes garbage can have an appeal

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<v Speaker 1>of its own that will continue to draw visitors. Just

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<v Speaker 1>because something is low in quality doesn't mean it's unpoppulsler.

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<v Speaker 1>And also just because something is high quality doesn't mean

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<v Speaker 1>that it's sought after. This is just the nature of

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<v Speaker 1>our world. So sometimes you can create garbage and do

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<v Speaker 1>really well if it's garbage that people are interested in. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>running a content site that's staffed by like salaried writers

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<v Speaker 1>and editors gets to be really expensive because that's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of salaries, and the work can be slow, particularly

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<v Speaker 1>for those who are working on in depth pieces in

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<v Speaker 1>which journalists are you know, having to follow up on

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<v Speaker 1>all those pesky leads and loose ends. That kind of

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<v Speaker 1>thing takes time, and that might mean that you could

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<v Speaker 1>be waiting a while for the next piece to be

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<v Speaker 1>ready for publication. You're not churning out content, you're not

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<v Speaker 1>a content farm. Meanwhile, you still have to keep paying

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<v Speaker 1>this yutz who's working on this really in depth piece

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<v Speaker 1>for all their work. It ain't hardly fair right, because

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<v Speaker 1>you know they're still haven't actually published the thing. That's

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<v Speaker 1>my guess as to how certain online content platform owners

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<v Speaker 1>think that you know, it ain't hardly fair that we

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<v Speaker 1>have to pay them even though they haven't published their

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<v Speaker 1>article yet. Of course, maybe you can cut back on

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<v Speaker 1>the costs by going with freelance writers, you know, because

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<v Speaker 1>you only pay freelance writers when they turn in a

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<v Speaker 1>finished piece. You'll still need an editorial staff, likely a

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<v Speaker 1>salaried editorial staff, but you don't need to hold on

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<v Speaker 1>to a staff of salaried writers if you're just dependent

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<v Speaker 1>upon freelancers. Now you might find it challenging to reach

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<v Speaker 1>a consistent level of quality. But there are some very good,

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<v Speaker 1>very accomplished freelancers out there who are just as good

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<v Speaker 1>as any salaried writer, or even better in some cases.

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<v Speaker 1>So hopefully you can attract some of those to write

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<v Speaker 1>for you. If not, well, you can hope that the

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<v Speaker 1>folks you do get are good enough, or that your

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<v Speaker 1>editorial staff can maybe hush things up if the articles

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<v Speaker 1>are perhaps a little below standard. But at any rate,

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<v Speaker 1>you can bring down some of the costs that way

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<v Speaker 1>by not having salaried writing staff. Meanwhile, the other thing

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<v Speaker 1>that you're concerned with, or perhaps obsessed with, is SEO,

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<v Speaker 1>which stands for Search engine optimization. So why would you

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<v Speaker 1>be obsessed with SEO. Well, for years, the primary source

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<v Speaker 1>of traffic for many websites, not all of them, but

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<v Speaker 1>many of them would be search engines. So of course

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<v Speaker 1>when I say search engines, I really mean Google. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>there are other search engines out there. Some people exclusively

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<v Speaker 1>use other search engines, but Google is by far the

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<v Speaker 1>dominant search engine on the web. So ranking high in

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<v Speaker 1>Google search engines is really important because if you're below

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<v Speaker 1>say the first several results, or worse yet, if you

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<v Speaker 1>show up after page one, you're just not going to

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<v Speaker 1>get very much traffic from those search engines. Folks tend

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<v Speaker 1>to follow the top links that are listed. Most will

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<v Speaker 1>not go beyond the first page, and quite a few

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<v Speaker 1>won't go quote unquote below the fold, which means they'll

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<v Speaker 1>click on something they can see upon getting their search

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<v Speaker 1>results without having to scroll down the page at all.

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<v Speaker 1>So part of your strategy is to identify stuff that

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<v Speaker 1>people are searching for and then to create content that

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<v Speaker 1>meets those needs. Or better yet, you figure out what

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<v Speaker 1>folks are going to be searching for tomorrow and then

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<v Speaker 1>you get the jump on everyone else. So you hire

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<v Speaker 1>some SEO consultants to help you optimize your site. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>you're throwing in a bunch of meta data and such

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<v Speaker 1>to give you the best chance to rank high on

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<v Speaker 1>Google's search results. And you either don't think about or

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<v Speaker 1>you push aside the concern that should Google adjust its

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<v Speaker 1>approach to search results, you'll be back at square one,

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<v Speaker 1>because that's a thing. Google changes its algorithm every so often.

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<v Speaker 1>Those changes could mean that you go from having a

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<v Speaker 1>healthy flow of visitors because you rank really high on

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<v Speaker 1>the list, or you go down to a trickle because

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<v Speaker 1>suddenly there's a change in the algorithm and now you're

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<v Speaker 1>not appearing on page one anymore. And that's really scary, right.

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<v Speaker 1>You could be spending tons of money to rank high

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<v Speaker 1>on lists, only for Google to change things and you're

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<v Speaker 1>worse off than you were before. Of course, your ideal

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<v Speaker 1>situation is to convince folks to come to your site

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<v Speaker 1>all on their own, just to go straight to your site,

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<v Speaker 1>not to get there via search engine, and that means

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<v Speaker 1>you have to create a site that is a destination

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<v Speaker 1>in itself. So instead of going to Google and searching

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<v Speaker 1>for some random topic and just so happens that you

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<v Speaker 1>have covered that topic on your site and people come

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<v Speaker 1>to you that way. These people are coming straight to

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<v Speaker 1>your page just to see what you've posted and maybe

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<v Speaker 1>see if there's something interesting that they want to look at.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe even scroll around and look through archives to see

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<v Speaker 1>if there's old stuff that they want to read. That

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<v Speaker 1>is the dream to create a site that is so

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<v Speaker 1>inviting and so interesting that people go to it just

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<v Speaker 1>on their own, but for an awful lot of sites

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<v Speaker 1>out there, it remains a dream. Only a small percentage

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<v Speaker 1>of your visitors may be coming to your site just

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<v Speaker 1>to see what you've posted. Most are likely finding you

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<v Speaker 1>by following a link from a search results page. Another

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<v Speaker 1>thing that was changing at this time was online video.

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<v Speaker 1>So YouTube had launched back in two thousand and five,

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<v Speaker 1>and it wasn't the first online video platform, but obviously

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<v Speaker 1>it's the one that has become the most famous, and

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<v Speaker 1>it was in twenty eleven when things really started to

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<v Speaker 1>change quite a bit with online video. So twenty eleven

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<v Speaker 1>is the year when YouTube acquired a company that was

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<v Speaker 1>called Next New Networks. One of the folks who co

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<v Speaker 1>founded that company, Jed Simmons envisioned a new kind of

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<v Speaker 1>business on YouTube that he called a multi channel network.

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<v Speaker 1>This wasn't so much as new as it was newly defined.

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<v Speaker 1>So a multi channel network describes a company that owns

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<v Speaker 1>and operates multiple channels on YouTube. The company is in

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<v Speaker 1>charge of programming and content, meaning it's not just an

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<v Speaker 1>organization that aggregates existing channels that each operate more or

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<v Speaker 1>less independently of one another. So this is kind of

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<v Speaker 1>similar to how cable television works. For example, back in

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<v Speaker 1>the day, Discovery Incorporated, which is now part of Warner Brothers.

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<v Speaker 1>Discovery owned and operated cable channels like Discovery, the Science Channel, TLC,

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<v Speaker 1>the Food Network, Animal Planet, and you know, like around

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<v Speaker 1>a dozen more channels. So on top of the multi

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<v Speaker 1>channel network strategy, YouTube pushed for content creators to do

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<v Speaker 1>their thing over on YouTube itself, to adopt YouTube as

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<v Speaker 1>a home base, and the company set aside a cool

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred million bucks to help new original channels get

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<v Speaker 1>off the ground. These included original channels like Geek and Sundry,

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<v Speaker 1>The Onion, and THENOC. The initiative would last about a

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<v Speaker 1>year and a half or so, at which point YouTube

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<v Speaker 1>quietly removed all references to this initiative and had reportedly

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<v Speaker 1>cut funding for more than half of the launched channels

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<v Speaker 1>because they just weren't performing to the level that was

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<v Speaker 1>needed in order to recoup the cost of investment. So

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<v Speaker 1>we see the dangers in relying upon a third party

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<v Speaker 1>when it comes to making content, because if that third

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<v Speaker 1>party suddenly decides to change something, suddenly you don't have

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<v Speaker 1>a home anymore. Then in the mid twenty tens, things

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<v Speaker 1>were really changing quite a bit. Search results were starting

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<v Speaker 1>to matter less, which wasn't necessarily a good thing for

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<v Speaker 1>those content platforms that depended upon traffic from Google, and instead,

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<v Speaker 1>social networks were beginning to matter more. People were saying, oh, well,

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<v Speaker 1>they go to their social networks and that's where they

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<v Speaker 1>get their news. They'll see something posted on Facebook, for example,

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<v Speaker 1>or Twitter, and then they'll follow up on it there

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<v Speaker 1>rather than going to a search engine or to a

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<v Speaker 1>content site directly. So friends would click on links and

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<v Speaker 1>content would go viral through people sharing on places like

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<v Speaker 1>Facebook or Twitter, and this meant that SEO would become

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<v Speaker 1>less important, and now content providers had to figure out

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<v Speaker 1>how could they create the kinds of content that would

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<v Speaker 1>do well on social media, which is a totally different skill,

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<v Speaker 1>Like you have to think in a different way for

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<v Speaker 1>something to do well on a social platform versus to

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<v Speaker 1>rank well in search. The writers and editors who just

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to do you a good job, they just wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to do work and to make a living off of

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<v Speaker 1>doing work, they would get jerked around quite a bit.

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<v Speaker 1>The types of content and the style of writing would change,

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes drastically, in an effort to cater to what does

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<v Speaker 1>well on social networks. This is where we started to

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<v Speaker 1>see the real embrace of lists and listicles, because lists

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<v Speaker 1>tend to do pretty well on social network or at

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<v Speaker 1>least they did at the time, and it was the worst.

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<v Speaker 1>Like if you were someone who was really dedicated to writing,

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<v Speaker 1>getting an assignment to write a list could be really depressing.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, there were people who did amazing jobs at it.

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<v Speaker 1>I know writers who did fantastic jobs at creating lists,

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<v Speaker 1>but from my perspective, my experience, it was just far

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<v Speaker 1>less satisfying to have to do a list as opposed

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<v Speaker 1>to a quote unquote normal article. Some sites really excelled

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<v Speaker 1>at getting traction on social networks, like BuzzFeed was pretty

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<v Speaker 1>darn good at it. And others rarely saw very much success.

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<v Speaker 1>Like you would try, like you seem to be doing

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<v Speaker 1>what everyone else was doing, but you just weren't necessarily

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<v Speaker 1>getting much traction. And so by twenty fifteen, content sites

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<v Speaker 1>were starting to put most of their eggs in the

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<v Speaker 1>social network basket. And I'm reminded of a conversation I

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<v Speaker 1>once had with Bernie Burns, one of the founders of

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<v Speaker 1>the media company Rooster Teeth. So Bernie told me that

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<v Speaker 1>he felt a key component to success on the Internet

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<v Speaker 1>if you're a content company is that you always maintain

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<v Speaker 1>your own platform, and you can show up on other platforms, right.

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<v Speaker 1>You can show up on YouTube, you can show up

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<v Speaker 1>on Facebook, but you always need to maintain your own

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<v Speaker 1>home and never fully commit to someone else's site as

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<v Speaker 1>being your base of operations, because if that other entity

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<v Speaker 1>does change things, you're up the creek. Kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>how content sites had optimized for one Google search algorithm

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<v Speaker 1>and then had to scramble and Google changed things up,

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<v Speaker 1>Or like how those original channels on YouTube had to

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<v Speaker 1>shut down once YouTube pulled the plug on the experiment. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>on the one hand, maybe those channels never would have

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<v Speaker 1>had a shot without YouTube's help in the first place,

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<v Speaker 1>so you could argue that they really didn't lose much

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<v Speaker 1>because they never would have had the opportunity without it anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>But on the other hand, once the third party shuts

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<v Speaker 1>off the support, the media company more often than not

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<v Speaker 1>had to fold. Okay, we're going to take a quick break.

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<v Speaker 1>When we come back, i'll talk more about the dreaded

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<v Speaker 1>pivot to video, but first a word from our sponsors. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we're back, and we've got a bunch of content sites

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<v Speaker 1>out there that are hanging on social networks to a

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<v Speaker 1>dangerous degree. The revenue models are such that the owners

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<v Speaker 1>of these sites are always looking for ways to reduce costs.

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<v Speaker 1>And then we finally get to the disastrous pivot to

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<v Speaker 1>video moment. And a few things would feed into this.

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<v Speaker 1>One is the perception that video is more nimble than

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<v Speaker 1>having to depend on written content. You can be more

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<v Speaker 1>fast and loose with video than you can with articles.

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<v Speaker 1>You can write and shoot a whole bunch of episodes

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<v Speaker 1>in a day, you can bank a bunch of content,

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<v Speaker 1>or more likely, you can release the content at a

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<v Speaker 1>regular pace, only to do it all again the next day.

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<v Speaker 1>And starting from scratch and making video is tough. You

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<v Speaker 1>could have a very small team doing it, but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>hats off to everyone on that team. I have worked

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<v Speaker 1>in this space a bit, and I can tell you that,

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<v Speaker 1>in my opinion, the talent on screen, the person you're

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<v Speaker 1>seeing in the video, typically has the easiest job, particularly

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<v Speaker 1>if they're not the one who had to write the

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<v Speaker 1>copy in the first place, like some people who appear

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<v Speaker 1>on the video. They're the ones who did all the

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<v Speaker 1>research and and that's a ton of work, but not

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<v Speaker 1>all the time. So back when I worked at houstuffworks

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<v Speaker 1>dot com, I would occasionally get pulled in to shoot

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<v Speaker 1>videos that were written by other people because we were

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<v Speaker 1>just as much affected by this pivot to video as

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of other sites. So a great example of

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<v Speaker 1>this is one of the most popular videos that featured yours. Truly,

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<v Speaker 1>I've been in some videos that went pretty viral, but

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<v Speaker 1>I think this one might be one of the top ones.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's a video that's titled why do People in

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<v Speaker 1>Old Movies Talk Weird? It's still up on YouTube if

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<v Speaker 1>you want to check it out. It has more than

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<v Speaker 1>five million views, which isn't too shabby. Now, obviously, that's

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<v Speaker 1>nowhere close to being even remotely one of the more

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<v Speaker 1>popular videos on the platform. Right, five million is big

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<v Speaker 1>for me, it's not big for like the truly huge

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<v Speaker 1>creators out there anyway. Ben Bolin, my arch nemesis, actually

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<v Speaker 1>wrote that episode. I did not. I threw in an

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<v Speaker 1>improvised line at the very end of the video about

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<v Speaker 1>Rigi races, but that was about it anyway. All I

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<v Speaker 1>really had to do was I had to show up,

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<v Speaker 1>and I had to read my lines off of a teleprompter.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm pretty good at that. I'm pretty good at

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<v Speaker 1>reading off a teleprompter, and I can do it well

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<v Speaker 1>enough where it can come across naturally, like it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>necessarily sound like I'm reading off a teleprompter, and I

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<v Speaker 1>can typically get through a video in just one or

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes two takes. They called me one take Strickland back

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<v Speaker 1>in the day, but for everyone else who was working

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<v Speaker 1>on that team, it was a lot more work. Like again,

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<v Speaker 1>I had the easiest job, but you got the writer Ben.

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<v Speaker 1>In this case, Ben had to research and write the

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<v Speaker 1>piece and then cut it down so that it could

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<v Speaker 1>fit a particular format. It didn't need to go too long,

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<v Speaker 1>but it needed to be informative enough to justify its existence.

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<v Speaker 1>You've got the tech crew. They have to make sure

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<v Speaker 1>that the sound and the video and the lights and

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<v Speaker 1>all of that are working properly, and that I look

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<v Speaker 1>as good as I possibly can on a camera. There's

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<v Speaker 1>only so much you can do, but you get the idea.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you've got the poor editor whose job is

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<v Speaker 1>to take all this footage and then combine it with

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<v Speaker 1>you know, other stuff like stock footage, and to get

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<v Speaker 1>it ready for publication. So my heart really goes out

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<v Speaker 1>to the editors. They often were be absolutely slammed with work.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, as soon as they finished one piece they

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<v Speaker 1>had to jump on another one. I don't know how

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<v Speaker 1>they did it and kept their sanity. Anyway, with a

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<v Speaker 1>relatively small team, you could churn out a whole lot

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<v Speaker 1>of content. Now let's get back to another big component,

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<v Speaker 1>the perception that video brings in more ad revenue. I

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<v Speaker 1>think you could reasonably argue this perception is what led

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<v Speaker 1>to a whole lot of great writers and editors losing

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<v Speaker 1>their jobs. And it all starts with a lie, or

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<v Speaker 1>at the very least, a huge mistake. So the year

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<v Speaker 1>is twenty fifteen, and here in the United States we

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<v Speaker 1>were heading into an election year. It seems like we're

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<v Speaker 1>always doing that, but you know, twenty fifteen, we're getting

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<v Speaker 1>ready for the twenty sixteen election year. That was a

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<v Speaker 1>year that promised to be a real doozy, and it

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<v Speaker 1>sure as heck was. And there was obviously a glut

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<v Speaker 1>of content coming in from new use pieces, to opinion pieces,

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<v Speaker 1>to misinformation campaigns, to all the types of stuff that

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<v Speaker 1>folks produce whether it's an election year or not. And

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<v Speaker 1>Mark Zuckerberg was going around evangelizing the future was video,

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<v Speaker 1>So he was making the rounds kind of lack a

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<v Speaker 1>Bible thump and travel and revival. Sorry that's my rural

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<v Speaker 1>Georgian coming out of me. Anyway. He was telling various

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<v Speaker 1>organizations that, based on Facebook's research, online video was where

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<v Speaker 1>it was at. Engagement with your plain old text and

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<v Speaker 1>image content was on the decline. Reach was diminishing for

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<v Speaker 1>these content companies, but video was a different story. So,

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<v Speaker 1>according to Facebook's analysis, users were far more likely to

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<v Speaker 1>watch and engage with video than other types of content

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<v Speaker 1>while on Facebook. In fact, they were likely to pause

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<v Speaker 1>a video so that they could watch the whole thing

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<v Speaker 1>rather than just nope out of it. If you know,

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<v Speaker 1>something came up like, you know, if they got a

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<v Speaker 1>notification or something. This was music to advertisers' ears. After all,

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<v Speaker 1>advertisers spend an awful lot of money to get their

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<v Speaker 1>ads placed so that users can potentially see them, but

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<v Speaker 1>the advertisers never get any assurance that the user will

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<v Speaker 1>you know, actually see the ads or pay attention to them.

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<v Speaker 1>So a lot of us have developed ad blindness over

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<v Speaker 1>the years. And then quite a few folks have ad

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<v Speaker 1>blockers installed on their browsers so that they don't have

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<v Speaker 1>to even develop ad blindness because the app does it

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<v Speaker 1>for them. But if people are watching videos, well that's

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<v Speaker 1>potentially a great place to put ads. And according to Facebook,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, people were watching an awful lot of videos,

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<v Speaker 1>that this was the way of the future, that soon

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<v Speaker 1>the majority of content on Facebook would be in video format. Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 1>content companies started to say, oh, that's where all the

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<v Speaker 1>money's going to go. That's where all the advertising money

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<v Speaker 1>is going to go, is to video, because advertisers are

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<v Speaker 1>being told this is what is the important content. So

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<v Speaker 1>if we want to get adverts tizing money, which is

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<v Speaker 1>the source of our revenue, we need to make sure

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<v Speaker 1>that we're in the business of creating video, which also

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<v Speaker 1>means we can downsize our editorial department and instead of

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<v Speaker 1>having this big editorial staff with editors and writers, we

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<v Speaker 1>can have a small video team that generates just a

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<v Speaker 1>ton of videos. We'll reduce costs and will generate more revenue.

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<v Speaker 1>So that seems like an ideal situation. And then we

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<v Speaker 1>started to see layoffs across the web in various editorial departments.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it was brutal. You know, company after company

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<v Speaker 1>was laying off writers and editors. It was just a

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<v Speaker 1>terrible thing to see. The message seemed to be that

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<v Speaker 1>search engine traffic was a dying source of visitors and

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<v Speaker 1>that social networks were in fact the future and you

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<v Speaker 1>had to get on that train. And further that you

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<v Speaker 1>really wanted to host stuff on those social networks natively

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<v Speaker 1>in order to get the most out of it. So

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<v Speaker 1>the perception was if you hosted a video on your

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<v Speaker 1>own site. So let's say it's house stuff Works. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>say we post a video to how stuff works done,

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<v Speaker 1>and then we link to that video on housetuffworks dot

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<v Speaker 1>com through a Facebook page. Right, we have the house

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<v Speaker 1>Stuffworks Facebook page. Well, the perception was you would not

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<v Speaker 1>get very much help from Facebook, you wouldn't get much

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<v Speaker 1>promotion and so not that many people would see it,

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<v Speaker 1>which means it wouldn't get a lot of engagement, which

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<v Speaker 1>means it wouldn't go viral. But if instead you created

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<v Speaker 1>that page on Facebook, so you have your house, stuffworks

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<v Speaker 1>page on Facebook, and then you started to upload videos

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<v Speaker 1>directly into Facebook itself, so that all the traffic is

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<v Speaker 1>going to the Facebook version of the video, not the

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<v Speaker 1>one that's hosted on your home site, well then the

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<v Speaker 1>all powerful Facebook algorithm would make sure that your video's

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<v Speaker 1>got a wider distribution so that there was a better

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<v Speaker 1>chance then more folks would see it and that it

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<v Speaker 1>could potentially go viral. Not a guarantee, but a better

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<v Speaker 1>chance than if you were just posting a link. So

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<v Speaker 1>the message was you've got to shift a video and

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<v Speaker 1>you've got to host your stuff on the social networks

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<v Speaker 1>them selves. You know, two things that ended up not

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<v Speaker 1>being the best advice. And there was a real problem

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<v Speaker 1>with all of this. It's that the information that the

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<v Speaker 1>advertisers got was was based on a lie, or at

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<v Speaker 1>the very least it was based on a mistake. Now

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<v Speaker 1>I can't say for sure that the folks in Facebook

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<v Speaker 1>were knowingly promoting an untruth to advertisers and content creators.

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<v Speaker 1>Facebook denies that that was ever the case. They said

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<v Speaker 1>that at the time they made a mistake and they

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<v Speaker 1>misstated the engagement levels with video, and that it was

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<v Speaker 1>all just based on an innocent mistake. It wasn't an

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<v Speaker 1>intentional thing at all. But you know, you could just

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<v Speaker 1>argue someone forgot to carry the one or something. But anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>according to various sources, Facebook exaggerated the engagement statistics to

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<v Speaker 1>a significant degree, Like sixty to eighty percent is what

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<v Speaker 1>was the initially believed. Later on there were arguments that

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<v Speaker 1>that was closer to between one hundred and fifty to

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<v Speaker 1>nine hundred percent. I don't know what the actual the

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<v Speaker 1>actual figure is, but let's just say that what Facebook

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<v Speaker 1>was telling advertisers back in twenty fifteen was absolutely not true.

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<v Speaker 1>And the truth was that video wasn't doing that great

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<v Speaker 1>on Facebook. It's not like it was, you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>worst thing ever, but it wasn't going like gangbusters the

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<v Speaker 1>way Facebook had implied. And apparently when Facebook was factoring

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<v Speaker 1>how much people were watching video, the problem was they

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<v Speaker 1>were counting videos that were on auto play. That when

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<v Speaker 1>people were just scrolling through their feed. If a video

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<v Speaker 1>came up as they were scrolling, the video automatically started playing,

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<v Speaker 1>and if it played for three seconds or longer, then

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<v Speaker 1>it counted toward engagement. If it didn't play for three seconds,

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<v Speaker 1>then it wasn't counted. It didn't it wasn't counted against it,

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't counted at all. So it was like cherry

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<v Speaker 1>picking and cherry picking incidents that may not indicate that

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<v Speaker 1>anyone's watching video at all. Let's say that I'm scrolling

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<v Speaker 1>down and I scrolled down and then there's a friend

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<v Speaker 1>of mine has posted something some in text, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just reading the text. Meanwhile below that post is a

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<v Speaker 1>little video that's on auto play, and it's going as

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<v Speaker 1>I'm reading the text and not paying any attention at

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<v Speaker 1>all to the video. Well, Facebook was counting that as

0:25:19.240 --> 0:25:22.399
<v Speaker 1>if I were intently watching the video, which means that

0:25:22.480 --> 0:25:26.159
<v Speaker 1>advertisers being told that all these people are watching tons

0:25:26.160 --> 0:25:28.280
<v Speaker 1>of video on Facebook, when in fact, no, it's just

0:25:28.320 --> 0:25:31.639
<v Speaker 1>that tons of video was playing on Facebook. Whether people

0:25:31.640 --> 0:25:33.920
<v Speaker 1>were watching it or not was a totally different matter.

0:25:34.240 --> 0:25:37.200
<v Speaker 1>But the problem was you had all these advertisers who

0:25:37.200 --> 0:25:41.560
<v Speaker 1>were shifting their ad revenue budgets to support video content.

0:25:41.920 --> 0:25:44.639
<v Speaker 1>And then that meant that you had all these media

0:25:44.680 --> 0:25:49.920
<v Speaker 1>companies and content creators completely uprooting their business model, totally

0:25:50.280 --> 0:25:53.439
<v Speaker 1>decimating their editorial departments in order to go where the

0:25:53.520 --> 0:25:56.840
<v Speaker 1>money was, right, Like, it doesn't make sense to keep

0:25:56.960 --> 0:25:59.840
<v Speaker 1>writing great content if you're not going to get any

0:25:59.840 --> 0:26:01.760
<v Speaker 1>ads placed against it, because you're not going to make

0:26:01.760 --> 0:26:04.879
<v Speaker 1>any money, and ultimately you'll go out of business, Like

0:26:05.200 --> 0:26:09.560
<v Speaker 1>there's no there's no grant or anything that's going to

0:26:09.680 --> 0:26:12.240
<v Speaker 1>keep you going just because you happen to be writing

0:26:12.280 --> 0:26:15.040
<v Speaker 1>great content. So you have to move to where the

0:26:15.080 --> 0:26:17.760
<v Speaker 1>money is. The money was in video. So everyone was

0:26:17.760 --> 0:26:20.760
<v Speaker 1>suffering for this, right You had people who were losing

0:26:20.760 --> 0:26:24.359
<v Speaker 1>their jobs because they were writers or editors. You had

0:26:24.400 --> 0:26:27.440
<v Speaker 1>the media companies that were suffering because it turned out

0:26:27.560 --> 0:26:32.080
<v Speaker 1>that these videos weren't going crazy viral the way Facebook

0:26:32.160 --> 0:26:36.040
<v Speaker 1>was suggesting. The advertisers were losing because people weren't actually

0:26:36.119 --> 0:26:39.600
<v Speaker 1>watching the ads the way that they thought was going

0:26:39.680 --> 0:26:43.080
<v Speaker 1>to happen. Facebook was losing because when people found out

0:26:43.080 --> 0:26:45.159
<v Speaker 1>about this, it did not look good for the company.

0:26:45.240 --> 0:26:49.840
<v Speaker 1>Like nobody nobody came out great for this. So even

0:26:49.880 --> 0:26:53.280
<v Speaker 1>the video teams, which were had steady employment right, Like,

0:26:53.320 --> 0:26:56.040
<v Speaker 1>they didn't have to worry about hitting unemployment the way

0:26:56.080 --> 0:26:59.879
<v Speaker 1>the writers and editors were. They were hurt too because

0:27:00.000 --> 0:27:02.760
<v Speaker 1>they were frequently working in a constant crunch that just

0:27:02.800 --> 0:27:05.840
<v Speaker 1>demanded that they immediately moved to the next video as

0:27:05.840 --> 0:27:08.280
<v Speaker 1>soon as they finished the previous one. And I've been

0:27:08.320 --> 0:27:10.240
<v Speaker 1>in a similar situation, I can tell you it is

0:27:10.320 --> 0:27:13.800
<v Speaker 1>exhausting and it is demoralizing. In fact, some folks that

0:27:13.880 --> 0:27:17.440
<v Speaker 1>I really respect actually left the field around this time

0:27:17.560 --> 0:27:19.800
<v Speaker 1>because of these issues. They were like, that's it. I'm

0:27:19.800 --> 0:27:21.960
<v Speaker 1>going to go find a job in a totally different

0:27:22.000 --> 0:27:25.400
<v Speaker 1>field because this is killing me. Now. The world would

0:27:25.440 --> 0:27:28.840
<v Speaker 1>find out that Facebook had at the very least done

0:27:28.880 --> 0:27:33.280
<v Speaker 1>goofed up a couple of years after they were really

0:27:33.280 --> 0:27:35.919
<v Speaker 1>pushing for this, like in late twenty sixteen, really, but

0:27:36.040 --> 0:27:38.879
<v Speaker 1>in twenty fifteen. In most of twenty sixteen, things were

0:27:38.880 --> 0:27:42.240
<v Speaker 1>shifting massively toward video. Once the smoke cleared and the

0:27:42.280 --> 0:27:44.960
<v Speaker 1>ad world discovered that they had been sold a business

0:27:45.000 --> 0:27:49.800
<v Speaker 1>model based on an incorrect analysis, the lawsuits poured in

0:27:50.200 --> 0:27:53.200
<v Speaker 1>and they cited internal Facebook documents that had been leaked.

0:27:53.600 --> 0:27:56.879
<v Speaker 1>These internal documents implied folks within the company had figured

0:27:56.880 --> 0:27:59.560
<v Speaker 1>out that there was this mistake, that it did appear

0:27:59.600 --> 0:28:02.639
<v Speaker 1>to be a miss it wasn't like an intentional lie,

0:28:03.320 --> 0:28:06.600
<v Speaker 1>but that the mistake had been discovered, and then the

0:28:06.680 --> 0:28:09.600
<v Speaker 1>decision had been made to cover that up, to hide

0:28:09.640 --> 0:28:12.359
<v Speaker 1>it from the public, to not admit to this mistake,

0:28:12.400 --> 0:28:16.800
<v Speaker 1>which is arguably as bad as just an outright lie

0:28:16.800 --> 0:28:20.200
<v Speaker 1>in the first place. And Facebook executives claim that no

0:28:20.240 --> 0:28:23.360
<v Speaker 1>one on their side deliberately misled any of the ad companies,

0:28:23.400 --> 0:28:27.879
<v Speaker 1>which I find challenging to believe, but maybe it's true. However,

0:28:27.880 --> 0:28:30.920
<v Speaker 1>in twenty nineteen, Facebook agreed to a settlement with these

0:28:30.960 --> 0:28:35.240
<v Speaker 1>advertising companies without actually admitting fault. By that time, even

0:28:35.280 --> 0:28:39.320
<v Speaker 1>more shenanigans were causing problems. I'll explain what I mean

0:28:39.360 --> 0:28:41.600
<v Speaker 1>by that, but first we're going to take another quick

0:28:41.680 --> 0:28:54.640
<v Speaker 1>break to thank our sponsors. Okay, we're back, and yes,

0:28:55.280 --> 0:28:59.960
<v Speaker 1>it gets worse. So the online content world is an upheaval.

0:29:00.400 --> 0:29:04.360
<v Speaker 1>Not every online platform completely throws in with the pivot

0:29:04.360 --> 0:29:07.520
<v Speaker 1>to video strategy, but a lot of them did, and

0:29:07.840 --> 0:29:10.840
<v Speaker 1>the phrase pivot to video began to kind of become

0:29:11.080 --> 0:29:15.040
<v Speaker 1>gallows humor. It was a euphemism for stuff like layoffs

0:29:15.400 --> 0:29:19.040
<v Speaker 1>and a decline in content quality over time, it was

0:29:19.120 --> 0:29:21.600
<v Speaker 1>pretty grim stuff Like if you said pivot to video,

0:29:21.680 --> 0:29:26.280
<v Speaker 1>you're kind of saying, yeah, the quality of that site

0:29:26.360 --> 0:29:29.280
<v Speaker 1>has really gone downhill over the last few years. That

0:29:29.520 --> 0:29:32.680
<v Speaker 1>management has made some very short sighted decisions based on

0:29:33.120 --> 0:29:36.680
<v Speaker 1>bad information. That's kind of what it became over time.

0:29:37.120 --> 0:29:41.240
<v Speaker 1>But what made this even worse was once again Facebook.

0:29:41.640 --> 0:29:44.480
<v Speaker 1>So here you have this platform which claims for a

0:29:44.560 --> 0:29:48.080
<v Speaker 1>couple of years that the future is all video, and

0:29:48.120 --> 0:29:51.600
<v Speaker 1>that within a few years practically every post on Facebook

0:29:51.640 --> 0:29:55.320
<v Speaker 1>will be video in some way, which prompts, obviously everyone

0:29:55.440 --> 0:29:59.760
<v Speaker 1>to rush toward adopting the video format. Then came the

0:30:00.000 --> 0:30:05.640
<v Speaker 1>concept of meaningful Social interactions or MSI, which sounds like

0:30:05.640 --> 0:30:08.480
<v Speaker 1>a Law and Order spin off, doesn't it. But meaningful

0:30:08.560 --> 0:30:13.880
<v Speaker 1>social interactions referred to an attempt to emphasize interactions between

0:30:14.400 --> 0:30:19.360
<v Speaker 1>a user and that user's friends and family, which on

0:30:19.400 --> 0:30:21.959
<v Speaker 1>the surface level you can kind of understand, right because

0:30:23.200 --> 0:30:26.720
<v Speaker 1>early Facebook people, a lot of people are like, man,

0:30:26.800 --> 0:30:29.280
<v Speaker 1>I really miss what Facebook used to be, where you

0:30:29.280 --> 0:30:32.400
<v Speaker 1>would log in and you would see, essentially in reverse

0:30:32.480 --> 0:30:35.720
<v Speaker 1>chronological order, the posts that your friends had made on

0:30:35.760 --> 0:30:38.120
<v Speaker 1>the platform, so at the top of the most recent

0:30:38.200 --> 0:30:40.640
<v Speaker 1>posts and you would scroll down, and you would keep

0:30:40.640 --> 0:30:42.640
<v Speaker 1>scrolling till you started to see stuff that you had

0:30:42.640 --> 0:30:44.520
<v Speaker 1>seen before, and you're like, okay, I'm all caught up.

0:30:44.760 --> 0:30:48.160
<v Speaker 1>And it was just your friends, and it was everything

0:30:48.200 --> 0:30:50.760
<v Speaker 1>they posted right, like, you weren't missing out on stuff.

0:30:50.760 --> 0:30:54.040
<v Speaker 1>It wasn't like Facebook was deciding which of your friend's

0:30:54.120 --> 0:30:56.800
<v Speaker 1>posts you would see and which ones you wouldn't see.

0:30:57.000 --> 0:31:01.400
<v Speaker 1>But eventually Facebook adopted algorithms that very much determined what

0:31:01.440 --> 0:31:04.480
<v Speaker 1>you would see. And it wasn't always from your friends

0:31:04.480 --> 0:31:08.840
<v Speaker 1>and family. It was often from lots of times advertisers

0:31:09.120 --> 0:31:13.080
<v Speaker 1>or stuff that Facebook algorithm assumed you would be interested

0:31:13.120 --> 0:31:15.440
<v Speaker 1>in in an effort to keep you engaged, to keep

0:31:15.480 --> 0:31:18.720
<v Speaker 1>you on the platform for as long as was possible.

0:31:19.160 --> 0:31:23.520
<v Speaker 1>So part of the issue was that Facebook determined, after

0:31:23.880 --> 0:31:26.560
<v Speaker 1>a couple of years of experimenting with this, that you know,

0:31:26.640 --> 0:31:32.400
<v Speaker 1>people aren't super crazy about just seeing random stuff created

0:31:32.440 --> 0:31:35.560
<v Speaker 1>by you know, like professional content media companies or whatever.

0:31:35.800 --> 0:31:37.840
<v Speaker 1>They really want to see what their friends and family

0:31:37.880 --> 0:31:42.040
<v Speaker 1>are up to. This feels like it was the most

0:31:42.200 --> 0:31:46.320
<v Speaker 1>obvious information that was out there, and yet Facebook's like, hey,

0:31:46.440 --> 0:31:50.000
<v Speaker 1>this is what we've discovered. So the idea of Facebook

0:31:50.000 --> 0:31:52.120
<v Speaker 1>had was that people would stay on Facebook longer if

0:31:52.160 --> 0:31:54.440
<v Speaker 1>they saw that the content on their feeds related to

0:31:54.480 --> 0:31:57.960
<v Speaker 1>the people who are actually in their lives. Go figure again,

0:31:58.080 --> 0:32:00.800
<v Speaker 1>seems like a pretty obvious thing to me. So you're

0:32:00.840 --> 0:32:03.480
<v Speaker 1>more likely to see a post from your uncle ted

0:32:03.520 --> 0:32:06.200
<v Speaker 1>pop up than just from some random video from some

0:32:06.360 --> 0:32:11.480
<v Speaker 1>random media company because Facebook now wanted to emphasize these

0:32:11.640 --> 0:32:17.080
<v Speaker 1>meaningful social interactions. But the shift to MSI meant that

0:32:17.160 --> 0:32:23.120
<v Speaker 1>Facebook was purposefully moving away from promoting videos from these

0:32:23.200 --> 0:32:26.760
<v Speaker 1>media companies, you know, the same media companies that Facebook

0:32:26.800 --> 0:32:30.080
<v Speaker 1>had convinced to shift to video just a couple of

0:32:30.200 --> 0:32:35.400
<v Speaker 1>years earlier, and to post those videos directly into Facebook itself. Essentially,

0:32:35.680 --> 0:32:39.960
<v Speaker 1>Facebook had convinced an entire industry to change how it

0:32:40.000 --> 0:32:44.040
<v Speaker 1>did business, and now Facebook was saying, yeah, we're not

0:32:44.040 --> 0:32:46.680
<v Speaker 1>going to promote your stuff anymore, Like we're going to

0:32:46.720 --> 0:32:51.120
<v Speaker 1>make sure algorithm isn't like emphasizing your content because it

0:32:51.160 --> 0:32:53.280
<v Speaker 1>turns out that's not what people want. It's what we

0:32:53.440 --> 0:32:57.440
<v Speaker 1>said people wanted, it's what we convinced advertisers that people wanted,

0:32:57.480 --> 0:32:59.960
<v Speaker 1>but it turns out no, it's not actually what people wanted.

0:33:00.440 --> 0:33:04.200
<v Speaker 1>So uh yeah, we're sorry, but uh yeah, we're not

0:33:04.240 --> 0:33:07.080
<v Speaker 1>gonna We're not gonna help you all out anymore. So

0:33:07.560 --> 0:33:11.160
<v Speaker 1>now you have these media companies with their stripped down staff,

0:33:11.920 --> 0:33:16.200
<v Speaker 1>this small skeleton crew that's killing themselves to publish multiple

0:33:16.320 --> 0:33:20.040
<v Speaker 1>videos a day to a Facebook page, and then Facebook

0:33:20.080 --> 0:33:22.680
<v Speaker 1>itself is limiting the reach of the videos that this

0:33:22.800 --> 0:33:26.200
<v Speaker 1>team is creating. The value proposition these companies were built

0:33:26.200 --> 0:33:32.120
<v Speaker 1>on just withered away. Content could still see widespread distribution

0:33:32.720 --> 0:33:34.880
<v Speaker 1>like that could still happen, but only if it was

0:33:34.960 --> 0:33:37.720
<v Speaker 1>driving a lot of engagement early on. And the stuff

0:33:37.760 --> 0:33:41.560
<v Speaker 1>that typically drove tons of engagement was the more extreme

0:33:41.680 --> 0:33:45.640
<v Speaker 1>stuff like not your typical news videos or whatever it was,

0:33:45.720 --> 0:33:49.400
<v Speaker 1>videos that got people angry. Those did really well because

0:33:49.440 --> 0:33:51.840
<v Speaker 1>people would engage with them. And you know, videos that

0:33:51.840 --> 0:33:56.040
<v Speaker 1>would pit one group against another, those did pretty well too. Essentially,

0:33:56.080 --> 0:33:59.080
<v Speaker 1>the videos that played to the worst of our tendencies

0:33:59.480 --> 0:34:01.360
<v Speaker 1>were the one ones that were most likely to go

0:34:01.520 --> 0:34:05.320
<v Speaker 1>viral and drive engagement. Now this meant that the content

0:34:05.400 --> 0:34:08.080
<v Speaker 1>companies got the message of if you want your videos

0:34:08.080 --> 0:34:11.160
<v Speaker 1>to do well, you got to rile people up. There

0:34:11.239 --> 0:34:14.680
<v Speaker 1>was even less of a place for valuable journalism or

0:34:14.719 --> 0:34:17.840
<v Speaker 1>creative videos. You might come up with something charming and

0:34:18.000 --> 0:34:21.239
<v Speaker 1>entertaining and informative, but it was far less likely to

0:34:21.239 --> 0:34:25.000
<v Speaker 1>get as many views as something that was controversial, mean spirited,

0:34:25.160 --> 0:34:28.680
<v Speaker 1>and you know, maybe even a lie. So you didn't

0:34:28.680 --> 0:34:30.799
<v Speaker 1>have to bother making sure that anything you claimed was

0:34:30.800 --> 0:34:33.680
<v Speaker 1>true or accurate. That was way less important than just

0:34:33.760 --> 0:34:37.520
<v Speaker 1>grabbing attention. So these ugly videos started to get a

0:34:37.520 --> 0:34:40.399
<v Speaker 1>lot of engagement, and that just meant that more folks

0:34:40.440 --> 0:34:42.680
<v Speaker 1>would see them and then interact with them, and that

0:34:42.719 --> 0:34:44.960
<v Speaker 1>meant that even more folks would see them and interact

0:34:44.960 --> 0:34:47.160
<v Speaker 1>with them, and so on. So it became this vicious

0:34:47.200 --> 0:34:49.840
<v Speaker 1>cycle that rewarded some of the worst content at the

0:34:49.920 --> 0:34:53.719
<v Speaker 1>expense of everything else. Now, I often argue that we

0:34:53.840 --> 0:34:56.760
<v Speaker 1>can't just jump to the conclusion that Facebook is actively

0:34:56.880 --> 0:35:00.120
<v Speaker 1>harming mental health. That is often a claim, and I say,

0:35:00.160 --> 0:35:03.080
<v Speaker 1>we can't jump to that conclusion. But I do think

0:35:03.080 --> 0:35:05.799
<v Speaker 1>you can make a decent argument that Facebook's policies and

0:35:05.880 --> 0:35:10.600
<v Speaker 1>algorithms facilitate the spread of content that is detrimental to

0:35:10.680 --> 0:35:13.960
<v Speaker 1>mental health. So maybe I'm being too kind. I think

0:35:14.000 --> 0:35:17.319
<v Speaker 1>the problem is a pretty complicated one. Anyway, The whole

0:35:17.360 --> 0:35:19.759
<v Speaker 1>shift to MSI was like a rug pull on these

0:35:19.840 --> 0:35:23.400
<v Speaker 1>media companies, and it again reinforced the advice that Bernie

0:35:23.400 --> 0:35:27.640
<v Speaker 1>Burns had years earlier that depending upon a third party

0:35:27.640 --> 0:35:32.239
<v Speaker 1>for stability is an inherently dangerous proposition because whenever that

0:35:32.280 --> 0:35:34.719
<v Speaker 1>third party makes a change in how it operates, it

0:35:34.719 --> 0:35:38.480
<v Speaker 1>can drastically affect your ability to do business. Such was

0:35:38.520 --> 0:35:41.959
<v Speaker 1>the way of Facebook. The nasty consequences of all this

0:35:42.200 --> 0:35:45.720
<v Speaker 1>is that even more folks got laid off because Facebook

0:35:45.800 --> 0:35:49.719
<v Speaker 1>changed tactics again, and now media companies were seeing that

0:35:49.760 --> 0:35:53.440
<v Speaker 1>their reach had been greatly diminished, so they didn't generate

0:35:53.480 --> 0:35:55.800
<v Speaker 1>as much revenue, which meant they needed to lay people

0:35:55.840 --> 0:35:58.640
<v Speaker 1>off as a result. So if you've wondered why online

0:35:58.719 --> 0:36:02.359
<v Speaker 1>content from certain media companies just doesn't feel the same

0:36:02.400 --> 0:36:05.080
<v Speaker 1>as it used to, this is one of the reasons.

0:36:05.440 --> 0:36:09.960
<v Speaker 1>Now another reason involves experimentations with AI, because companies like

0:36:10.000 --> 0:36:13.480
<v Speaker 1>c net and even my former employer, HowStuffWorks dot Com

0:36:13.920 --> 0:36:18.799
<v Speaker 1>have occasionally relied on AI to generate content, and that

0:36:19.120 --> 0:36:22.320
<v Speaker 1>can be really disheartening, particularly if you consider how it

0:36:22.400 --> 0:36:25.719
<v Speaker 1>declined in journalism and writing means that we have less

0:36:25.760 --> 0:36:30.399
<v Speaker 1>reliable and insightful information at our fingertips. This means we

0:36:31.040 --> 0:36:34.560
<v Speaker 1>become less equipped to understand the world around us and

0:36:34.640 --> 0:36:38.680
<v Speaker 1>what's going on and how perhaps we should comport ourselves

0:36:38.840 --> 0:36:41.759
<v Speaker 1>in such a world. There's a real tragedy going on

0:36:42.000 --> 0:36:45.120
<v Speaker 1>here beyond just people losing their jobs, Like the whole

0:36:45.160 --> 0:36:48.680
<v Speaker 1>world is getting less informed, and it's likely to get

0:36:48.719 --> 0:36:53.640
<v Speaker 1>worse before it gets better, if it gets better. Now,

0:36:53.640 --> 0:36:56.759
<v Speaker 1>While I would argue that pivot to video was a

0:36:56.800 --> 0:36:59.480
<v Speaker 1>true disaster, I think it's also safe to say that

0:36:59.560 --> 0:37:02.240
<v Speaker 1>it really just sped up a trend that was already

0:37:02.280 --> 0:37:04.640
<v Speaker 1>in motion. So I don't want to suggest that pivot

0:37:04.680 --> 0:37:09.680
<v Speaker 1>to video doomed online content all by itself. Because content

0:37:09.760 --> 0:37:13.920
<v Speaker 1>platforms were already seeing declines in traffic before the pivot

0:37:13.920 --> 0:37:17.560
<v Speaker 1>to video issue, SEO was really starting to lose it shine.

0:37:17.760 --> 0:37:20.960
<v Speaker 1>Social platforms were taking up more of the general public's time,

0:37:21.080 --> 0:37:23.279
<v Speaker 1>meaning that you really did need to consider how to

0:37:23.320 --> 0:37:26.759
<v Speaker 1>create content that could do well on sites like Facebook

0:37:26.760 --> 0:37:30.360
<v Speaker 1>and Twitter and et cetera. So revenues were already going down,

0:37:30.560 --> 0:37:33.799
<v Speaker 1>and some sites were, like I said, experimenting with paywalls

0:37:34.040 --> 0:37:36.880
<v Speaker 1>and asking readers to subscribe and pay a recurring fee

0:37:36.960 --> 0:37:40.000
<v Speaker 1>in return to access the content on the site. But

0:37:40.160 --> 0:37:43.440
<v Speaker 1>very few sites can actually do that and see much success.

0:37:43.560 --> 0:37:47.120
<v Speaker 1>A few can, but not most there weren't a lot

0:37:47.160 --> 0:37:52.280
<v Speaker 1>of opportunities out there to improve outlooks on revenue. And meanwhile,

0:37:52.320 --> 0:37:55.680
<v Speaker 1>companies still need to make money. Companies exist in order

0:37:55.760 --> 0:37:58.839
<v Speaker 1>to make money. Publicly traded companies need to do even

0:37:58.880 --> 0:38:01.439
<v Speaker 1>more than that. They can't just make money, they need

0:38:01.480 --> 0:38:05.200
<v Speaker 1>to grow and make more money than they did, say

0:38:05.280 --> 0:38:08.440
<v Speaker 1>the year before. So I think things were already looking

0:38:08.600 --> 0:38:12.560
<v Speaker 1>pretty grim for online content even before the pivot to video.

0:38:12.880 --> 0:38:16.040
<v Speaker 1>It's just pivot to video press that accelerator all the

0:38:16.080 --> 0:38:18.960
<v Speaker 1>way down, like it was pedal to the metal on

0:38:19.520 --> 0:38:23.000
<v Speaker 1>pivot to video. Anyway, to this day, people still use

0:38:23.080 --> 0:38:26.160
<v Speaker 1>pivot to video as kind of shorthand in a cynical

0:38:26.200 --> 0:38:28.400
<v Speaker 1>way to say that a company is making a drastic

0:38:28.440 --> 0:38:31.719
<v Speaker 1>and ultimately harmful decision, typically in an effort to get

0:38:31.760 --> 0:38:36.400
<v Speaker 1>some short term relief from market pressures, but with long

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<v Speaker 1>term negative consequences. Sometimes you just use it to describe

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<v Speaker 1>a really bad decision, like, oh, it's a pivot to video,

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<v Speaker 1>and you've still got companies that are emphasizing video. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>Meta's Instagram is a great example. The company embraced short

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<v Speaker 1>form video reels in other words, on Instagram, and they

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<v Speaker 1>did this primarily as a way to try and compete

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<v Speaker 1>with TikTok. Now reels make up a prey significant portion

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<v Speaker 1>of Instagram content, something that you know, a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people object to like. Even the Kardashians are not crazy

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<v Speaker 1>about this. Meanwhile, over at X formerly known as Twitter,

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<v Speaker 1>the Muskie one has said that the X Twitter is

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<v Speaker 1>now a video first platform. Of course, Elon Musk is

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<v Speaker 1>also trying to wrestle with a very real problem because

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<v Speaker 1>Twitter has seen most of its high value advertisers jump ship,

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<v Speaker 1>mostly due to Elon Musk and his refusal to curb

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<v Speaker 1>any of the awful stuff going on over at X,

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<v Speaker 1>including his own participation in elevating tweets that have hate

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<v Speaker 1>speech and misinformation in them. The whole pivot to video

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<v Speaker 1>story still makes me angry and sad. A lot of

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<v Speaker 1>folks lost their jobs as a result of all that nonsense.

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<v Speaker 1>We all suffer due to a decline in good, reliable content. Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 1>I ended up pivoting to audio. I mean, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I've been podcasting since two thousand and eight, but I

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<v Speaker 1>was still writing articles up until around twenty eighteen or so,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I shifted over to focus exclusively on researching, writing,

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<v Speaker 1>and recording shows like this one. But anyway, that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of wraps up our story so far. With pivot to video,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the story that's ongoing. I mean, the real focus

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<v Speaker 1>of it, I think would be between twenty fifteen and

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<v Speaker 1>twenty eighteen, but we're still seeing, like I said, this

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<v Speaker 1>intentional push toward video content, even podcasts. Right, A lot

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<v Speaker 1>of podcasts now exist as YouTube videos as well. I

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<v Speaker 1>haven't done that personally because I guess I could publish

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<v Speaker 1>episodes to YouTube just so folks could find tech stuff

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<v Speaker 1>on YouTube, but I would probably just pair it with

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<v Speaker 1>a static image because otherwise all you're going to see

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<v Speaker 1>is a video of me by myself, sitting at my

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<v Speaker 1>desk talking about tech, and I don't know that that

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<v Speaker 1>is interesting enough to merit publication. If I had a

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<v Speaker 1>co host or something, it would be a different story.

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<v Speaker 1>But with it just being me, I'm not entirely convinced

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<v Speaker 1>that it's for the best. I guess you can argue

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<v Speaker 1>with me if you like, and if enough people say, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>please get these up on YouTube, I'll see what I

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<v Speaker 1>can do. But anyway, that's the pivot to video story

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<v Speaker 1>so far. I hope you found this interesting and I

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