1 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:06,760 Speaker 1: Revere, Revere Dalks. 2 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 2: Look at us now, tip to tip. This is our life, 3 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:11,719 Speaker 2: this is our passion. 4 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 1: That's the spirit we bring to this show. 5 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:16,600 Speaker 2: I'm Luke Thomas, I'm Brian Campbell. 6 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:24,640 Speaker 1: This this Morning Combat. Wow Wow, ladies and gentlemen, it's 7 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 1: the fifteenth of May. Can you believe how fast the 8 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 1: year is going? Twenty twenty three. Welcome to episode whatever 9 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 1: the fuck it is from Morning Combat. Hello, my friends, 10 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 1: my name is Luke Thomas. I am merely one half 11 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 1: of your hosting dual. I join you as I always do, 12 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 1: from the capital of the status Needles right here in Washington, 13 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 1: d C. Joined by the most washed pos this side 14 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:50,160 Speaker 1: of the Mississippi and the Mason Dixon line. Just any 15 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:52,240 Speaker 1: which way you cut it. It's my friend and yours. 16 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 1: It's Brian Campbell. Hello, Brian Campbell. 17 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 2: Hello, Luke. It was great, uh habitsing with you this weekend, 18 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 2: putting in that work. You know what I'm saying, Hot 19 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 2: wings on the ash, right? I mean, would you say 20 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:11,039 Speaker 2: in conclusion, Luke, that our time together it was good? 21 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 2: Oh wow wow? Right? 22 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 1: It was definitely better than Ezra I you know what 23 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:16,960 Speaker 1: I'm saying. 24 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:22,039 Speaker 2: Yeah, wow wow Right, all right. 25 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 1: You see, very very quickly, how was your Mother's Day, 26 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 1: which of course was yesterday. 27 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 2: It was It was very relaxing and nice. You know, 28 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 2: I even mowed the lawn, Luke. You know what I'm saying. 29 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 2: It was great, great, you know, we we we celebrated 30 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 2: my lovely and beautiful wife and that was about it, Luke. 31 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 2: Very relaxing. Did you have to jump through any hoops 32 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:42,479 Speaker 2: or you. 33 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 1: Know, yeah I did. I did the big one. I 34 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 1: did like reservations and then we had reservations for an 35 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 1: activity later in the afternoon, which actually ended up working 36 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 1: pretty well. But it was a lot of work, flowers, 37 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 1: you know, the whole bit. 38 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 2: So, oh my gosh. We just did take out in 39 00:01:57,520 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 2: in in family movie time. You know. 40 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 1: It was wonderful. See there have been years like that 41 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 1: where my wife is like, no, let's do it low 42 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 1: key blah blah blah. And then I did the low 43 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 1: key thing and she's like, what this is all? And 44 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 1: You're and I'm like, I'm not playing that game this year, 45 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 1: you know. 46 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 2: I mean, seriously, though, you're in like what year three 47 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 2: or four of Mother's Day for your relationship that you 48 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:18,639 Speaker 2: got it. You gotta go all in now. It's once 49 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 2: you get up to you know where I am, year fifteen, 50 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 2: It's like, you know you can you can get you 51 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 2: can mail that in Luke. But you know there's a 52 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:26,239 Speaker 2: lot of love involved though in mailing. 53 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 1: Did you call your own mother? Did you did you 54 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:28,800 Speaker 1: wish for her? 55 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 2: Of course? 56 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:31,080 Speaker 1: Okay. 57 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 2: I even facetimed that that wonderful woman as well, So. 58 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 1: That was but with a different description there, didn't you. 59 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 1: I almost facetimed wonderful woman? 60 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 2: Oh right, there we go, there we are. 61 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 1: Hey, A lot to get to because it was actually 62 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:51,080 Speaker 1: it ended up being a bit of a kind of 63 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 1: crazy combat sports weekend. So Bellatore was on Friday. Definitely 64 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 1: some upsets happened there. We'll get to those, and some 65 00:02:57,880 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 1: crow we have to eat, and I have to eat 66 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 1: some crow. We'll do that for a belt or two 67 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:05,080 Speaker 1: ninety six. Of course, UFC Charlotte was on Saturday. Tons 68 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 1: of stuff that went as expected, but create some interesting questions. 69 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 1: Also plenty of controversy there as well. And how about 70 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 1: that Showtime Championship Boxing Carver. We're Rolando Romero and Ismael 71 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 1: Barroso just ending up in the most insane controversy I've 72 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 1: seen in some time, so we ladies and gentlemen have 73 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 1: a lot to get to here. Of course, two thumbs 74 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:25,920 Speaker 1: up on YouTube it subscribe me if you have it, 75 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:29,960 Speaker 1: give us a nice review. Whatever podcast platform you're listening on. 76 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:31,919 Speaker 1: If you're watching on YouTube, you can see us right 77 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 1: there on the screen for our socials. Give us a follow. Hey, 78 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 1: come say hi on TikTok. That's where all the kids 79 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 1: are doing things interesting. 80 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 2: Looks like, just not in person though, in fact, if 81 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 2: you see me in person, avoid me. 82 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 1: Dude. You know what's funny. So I walked around Jersey 83 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 1: City in that morning. I don't know if I guess 84 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 1: I did tell you about this. So I went to 85 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 1: go get a cup of coffee on Saturday morning because 86 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 1: we were waiting to do the prelims that night. We 87 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 1: had stayed over. And I'm sitting there by the waterfront, 88 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 1: just enjoying one of my cups of coffee, and there's 89 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:02,119 Speaker 1: a race that's happening around me. People are carrying like sandbags. 90 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:04,119 Speaker 1: I don't know what's happening. First of all, one dude 91 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 1: stops to take a picture with me. He recognized me. 92 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 1: He was an MK donk. So that was cool shot 93 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 1: for that guy. And then some Spanish speaking lady rolls 94 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 1: up on me with a camera crew. I'm not doing 95 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 1: a bit. She had a camera crew with her. They 96 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 1: all had like gimbals on all their cameras, and she 97 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 1: started talking about me in Spanish, not realizing I got 98 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 1: most of it, and so I responded back to her 99 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 1: and we had a bit of a. 100 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:31,159 Speaker 2: What words did she use to describe you? On Espanol? 101 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 1: She was just saying, here's a regular person from Jersey 102 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 1: City sitting here, and I'm like, yeah, if I was, 103 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:41,480 Speaker 1: I would have already knifed you in between the sixth 104 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:43,840 Speaker 1: and seventh rib and I didn't do that, so there 105 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 1: you go. Anyway, I had a bit of a conversation 106 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 1: with her, and then she left by going, hey, in Spanish, Hey, 107 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 1: here's a gringa who speaks Spanish. Isn't that swell? And 108 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 1: I was like, all right, well, you know, we don't 109 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 1: have to be mean about this whole thing. So that 110 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 1: was weird. And then I got recognized walking around downtown 111 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 1: in Jersey City later by another MK Donk, So it 112 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:02,360 Speaker 1: was a bit of a weird Saturday. 113 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:05,799 Speaker 2: You know. That's great for the ego, though, Luke, especially 114 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 2: when it's you know, lat Latin cougar's stopping. 115 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 1: You, right. I don't know. I don't know how old 116 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 1: she was, because you know, everyone's all messed up. I mean, dude, 117 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 1: that race was brutal. Like whatever they were doing carrying 118 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:20,040 Speaker 1: those heavy ass sandbags. I don't know what that was, 119 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 1: but they look. 120 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 2: Looked like some crossbit jerk off festival. 121 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:26,039 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not a bit a bit anyway, So we 122 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 1: have a lot to get to their fun weekend. Thanks 123 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 1: everyone who said hello, and we're saying hello back BC. 124 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:34,040 Speaker 1: I want to set things up. So, of course, showtime 125 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 1: dot Com is the label that pays Showtime dot Com 126 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 1: get a thirty day free trial. If you like it, 127 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 1: you can keep it. If not, you can do something 128 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 1: else with your life. Morning Coombat dot Store. The merch 129 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 1: is alive and well. 130 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:48,040 Speaker 2: And a cool question for you though about our great 131 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 2: content okay, because you know, we we put out maybe 132 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 2: maybe a top five episode of MK and History on Friday, 133 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 2: and then we teased and threatened that a real are 134 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 2: a D one point Oh no, not the RSD two 135 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:05,719 Speaker 2: point zero that we recorded with Ray Longo baby that 136 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:08,040 Speaker 2: I can't wait to see that hit the streets soon. 137 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 2: You and I actually sat down for a old school 138 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:15,599 Speaker 2: room service diaries Friday night. I did it. I entered 139 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 2: your hotel room. I dealt with the fumes of your 140 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:24,039 Speaker 2: ash cheeks. Luke, where is this product? Where's this piece 141 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:24,479 Speaker 2: of cotton? 142 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 1: I guess I'll put I was gonna put it out yesterday, 143 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 1: but then when I got on my late Saturday night train, 144 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 1: I took a train eleven thirty at night from Newark. Boy, 145 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 1: let me tell you the people watching in Newark at 146 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:37,839 Speaker 1: eleven thirty at night in the trade. Boy, I'm just 147 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:39,720 Speaker 1: I mean, it was like a thriller video up in there. 148 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 2: But you have a bingo card crossing out communicable diseases, Luke, 149 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:44,600 Speaker 2: as you, it's amazing. 150 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 1: You could all have my headphones on, which is like 151 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 1: international sign with don't bother me. But of course they 152 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:50,920 Speaker 1: just come up to you and start asking for stuff. 153 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 1: And I'm a sucker. I'm always I always give them 154 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 1: money if I have it. I didn't have any cash 155 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:56,720 Speaker 1: on me this one time. You can always tell when 156 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:59,840 Speaker 1: someone's about to ask you for money, because have you 157 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:03,280 Speaker 1: notice that they walk weird, like people who are like 158 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 1: destitute and train stations and you know, God, bless them. 159 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:08,280 Speaker 1: They got tough lives, but they always have like their 160 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 1: balances always off. So out the corner of my eye, 161 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 1: I always I saw this dude blah blah blah, and 162 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 1: then he starts gibbering jibbering. I mean, he needs some money. 163 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 1: Actually did not have any, So I don't care what 164 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 1: they like that anymore. 165 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 2: What the hell does that wonderful vagabon have to do 166 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 2: with room service diaries? 167 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 1: All right, Luke, No, I get on the train. I 168 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 1: get on the train, and I did not have the 169 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 1: dongle that I needed to plug in my SD card 170 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 1: into my laptop, so I couldn't do it. And then 171 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 1: by time Saturday Sunday got rolling around, I was just 172 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 1: busy with mom stuff. But I think it'll be out 173 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 1: next Sunday. We'll have a nice Sunday treat for everyone 174 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 1: of coming up this next week. 175 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 2: And we love putting out dated content in this show, Luke, 176 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 2: We just love me. 177 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 1: It doesn't it's not it's fairly evergreen. It's not really 178 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 1: gonna matter. So bc Uh, there's that, of course, the 179 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 1: merch And yeah, we also have another sponsor to get 180 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 1: to here. You know. It's ag One by athletic greens. 181 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 1: You guys know the deal. It's only one delicious scoop. 182 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 1: It's seventy five high quality vitamins and minerals, whole food source, superfoods, 183 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 1: probiotics and adapto GENSBC. And that's how every day should start, 184 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 1: is it not? 185 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 2: People are like BC. I'm like you. I don't always 186 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 2: make the best food in lifestyle choices, but I want 187 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 2: to do something each morning that starts my day. Correct. 188 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 2: What do I do? How about this one scoop of 189 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 2: the magic green powder. Put it in a glass of water, 190 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 2: stir it up, little darling, right, you know what I'm 191 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 2: talking about? Yeah, Luke, that doesn't taste medicinal or gross. 192 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 2: It's got this beautiful, you know, light tropical taste. But 193 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 2: it's all about what does it do for me. I 194 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:40,680 Speaker 2: don't care if you're gluten free, paleo, kego keegles, keto, Luke, 195 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:43,679 Speaker 2: whatever wherever direction you're going in life, I don't care 196 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 2: if you're looking to support gut, health, nervous system across 197 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:52,440 Speaker 2: the board. Luke, this is the stuff in my life 198 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 2: that's missing, and I get to put it in a 199 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 2: glass of water every morning to start my day. The 200 00:08:56,880 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 2: right way. I call that a cheat code. Brother, that's 201 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 2: like the Cliffs Notes to Health. You learned it right 202 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 2: here on MK. It's called it's called age. 203 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:09,680 Speaker 1: Yeah. 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Or 212 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:31,680 Speaker 2: how about those seven thousand people that gave five star 213 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:35,959 Speaker 2: reviews online? How about Tim Ferriss, right, how about Michael Gervais? 214 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 2: How about Joe Rogan? 215 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 1: Okay, I don't think I don't think he's sponsorship. 216 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:43,560 Speaker 2: Yes he has. How about Brian Campbell? All right? I 217 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 2: mean honestly, no, the thing is this model of health. 218 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:47,680 Speaker 2: We want you to get on board with this. We 219 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 2: do have donks have tried this and they're like, thank you, 220 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:53,959 Speaker 2: this is you know Fiphil McKagan big time AG one guy. Right, seriously, 221 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:56,320 Speaker 2: I want you to be two. 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If there's any other verbatim details, 231 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 2: now would be the time. 232 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 1: Uh yeah, of course you can arm and reclaim your 233 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 1: health and arm your immune system with convenient daily nutrition 234 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 1: of course, heading into the flu and cold season, no 235 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 1: need for a million different pills and supplements to look 236 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 1: out for your health. And as BC indicated, Athleticgreens dot 237 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 1: Com slash Morning Combat to take ownership over your health 238 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:43,320 Speaker 1: and pick up the ultimate daily nutritional insurance. All right BC. 239 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 1: With that in mind, let's get this party started. If 240 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 1: we can here, we will start as we customerly do, 241 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 1: with the Ultimate Fighting Championship topic number one, here we go. 242 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 1: How about Jileton Almeta, I mean, making absolutely short work 243 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:01,679 Speaker 1: of Gyrzenio Rosenstruk in the main event for UFC Charlotte 244 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 1: aka UFC on ABC four BC. It was very easy 245 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:09,200 Speaker 1: for him. He got the takedown, running it down on 246 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 1: his knees, which you're never supposed to be able to do, 247 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 1: but he did it. So he does that, moves into mount, 248 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 1: eventually secures the back, chokes him out. Made it work, 249 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 1: excuse me, made it look like it was nothing. So 250 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 1: the question is as follows, fourteen in a row total 251 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 1: for him in terms of his wind streak, is it 252 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:31,200 Speaker 1: time to start talking about Almeta as a legitimate heavyweight 253 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 1: title threat. 254 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 2: Yes, and yes with a bullet because not only is 255 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 2: it what thirteen or fourteen straight wins as you mentioned, 256 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 2: they're all stoppages. Most of those are early stoppages first round, 257 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 2: I think twice in the second round. Well, we're talking 258 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:51,440 Speaker 2: about here as a finisher, an absolute destroyer in like 259 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 2: he mentioned afterwards with with with a self reflective Habib comparison, 260 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 2: here's an ultimate specialist. He may or may not have 261 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 2: hands Luke I'm mentioned in the past of both his 262 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 2: uncle and father were boxers in Brazil, so I'd like 263 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 2: to see what that looks like the first time somebody 264 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 2: stuffs his plan a and really makes him fight. Here's 265 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 2: the problem. We may not find that out until he 266 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:15,959 Speaker 2: gets to the very top. That's where he's headed, That's 267 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 2: where he belongs. Because I did hear Luke some people 268 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 2: a little bit afterwards, Salty's saying, well, we didn't really 269 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 2: learn anything. Rosenstruk is not that guy. We already knew that, 270 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 2: but this was the right escalation. I didn't love this 271 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:29,440 Speaker 2: necessarily as this main event. We didn't even need the 272 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 2: five rounds. We already went through that. But you know what, 273 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:34,320 Speaker 2: I love Johnson. I'll made a threat to this division 274 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:38,559 Speaker 2: because he's athletic, He's in tremendous shape, he knows how 275 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 2: to lean into his strengths. He's got an incredibly quick 276 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 2: shot Luke to take people down, but then he's patient 277 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 2: and he finishes you. Yes, it is time to figure 278 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:50,680 Speaker 2: out how many more we need before this guy is 279 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:54,840 Speaker 2: fighting for the UFC Heavyweight Championship, Because like Liam Neeson, 280 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 2: he has a unique set of skills and he's not 281 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 2: gonna be taken until the very time. If he is, Luke, 282 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 2: until we find that resistance where somebody's gonna be able 283 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 2: to keep this guy off of him or or get 284 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:09,560 Speaker 2: off once taken down. Until we see that, then we'll 285 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 2: readjust exactly where he is. I don't know if he's 286 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 2: a dual threat, but I've always said this, Luke, sometimes 287 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:18,439 Speaker 2: not knowing that while you watch a guy climb up 288 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 2: is a big part of the intrigue. What will it 289 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:24,080 Speaker 2: look like when finally Let's find out first if when 290 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 2: finally actually happens. Because this guy's plan a is as 291 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 2: strong as anyone else is in this entire game, and 292 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 2: I'm really enjoying this ride of watching him take people down, 293 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 2: force the tap or get the violent stoppage on the ground. 294 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 2: He's doing it his way. He's a technical marvel, He's 295 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 2: an athletic freak. He has a problem for every single 296 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:47,680 Speaker 2: heavyweight in this division, right, am I? 297 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 1: Right? 298 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:50,319 Speaker 2: Luke, He's potentially a problem. 299 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:53,839 Speaker 1: Oh, I think he's a huge problem. Now there's when 300 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 1: people say we didn't learn much, they're not exactly wrong. 301 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 1: And what I mean by that is base Stone what 302 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:04,320 Speaker 1: we saw on Saturday from Almeida. Can you confidently conclude 303 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 1: this is a guy who can beat Sergey Pavlovitch. You 304 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 1: cannot confidently conclude that you don't know if he's gonna 305 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 1: be able to get the same kind of takedowns easily 306 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 1: accessible again running it down on his knees. I mean, listen, 307 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 1: Almeida is a beast. He'd beat the brakes off. I mean, 308 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 1: he'd kill me if he wanted to. But like, and 309 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 1: he knows this too, Like I'm not saying that he 310 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 1: doesn't know, but like, you're definitely taught to not wrestle 311 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 1: on your knees. Like, you can touch your knees at times, 312 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 1: but you got to get to your feet. You got 313 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 1: to move on your feet. So if you're finishing a 314 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 1: takedown on your knees, like, there's a huge skill consideration 315 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 1: about who you're taking down. But that is sort of 316 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 1: my point, BC. I don't really know a whole lot 317 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 1: about Almeida's stand up. I know a little bit, but 318 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 1: not really a lot. I don't know how that's gonna 319 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 1: go if and when he is forced to stand But 320 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 1: just seeing what happened between John Jones and Cyril Gone, 321 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 1: I don't know why anyone would think that Almeida wouldn't 322 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 1: have a chance at the title or getting very very 323 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 1: very close to it. Not every fighter is Cyril Gan, 324 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 1: and certainly every fighter is John Jones. But if that 325 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 1: fight highlighted anything, it's that there are huge, monstrous skill 326 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 1: gaps even among very top contenders, perhaps more so than 327 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 1: any other division. At the top of heavyweight, you've got 328 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 1: a guy like i'l made a two hundred and thirty pounds, 329 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 1: built like a tight end, who is athletic, who is strong, 330 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 1: who has a very technical ground game, and he is 331 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 1: dicing through some of these older guys, in this particular case, 332 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 1: one with a kickboxing background, like it's nothing. He is 333 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 1: gonna beat a lot of I mean, this was not 334 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 1: challenging for him at all. Once he got going, he 335 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 1: never stopped, right. I mean, this was big bank take 336 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 1: little bank in the biggest of ways. Now, will that 337 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 1: work against Curtis Blades if he ends up getting there, 338 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 1: I don't know the answer to that. Again, will it 339 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 1: work against Sergey Pavlovitch if and when he gets up 340 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 1: to that point, I don't know the answer to that. 341 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 1: There are some unanswered questions, and some of them fairly big. 342 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 1: But dude, you don't Number one, you can't count i'l 343 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 1: made it out of those contests, he might win one 344 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 1: or both of those. Number one and number two. He's 345 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 1: gonna beat everybody else, right, He's gonna beat everybody else 346 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 1: no problem in that division by virtue of the kind 347 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 1: of skill set he has, both athletically and technically. So 348 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 1: an answer to the question, B see, is this guy 349 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 1: a threat to heavyweight? He was a threat to heavyweight 350 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 1: before Saturday. After Saturday, there can absolutely be no mistake 351 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 1: about it. 352 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, this was him, you know, getting out the trumpet 353 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 2: and blowing it and showing us exactly how dominant he 354 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 2: can be in the right matchup. I think if we're 355 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 2: being fair, though, Luke across the board, obviously against somebody 356 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 2: like Pavlovich who's chose huge power or anything can happen. 357 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 2: It could be anyone's kryptonite. But how many elite heavyweights, 358 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 2: whether we're talking about the wrestling of John Jones, the 359 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 2: varied ground game, to be fair of Tom aspinall, how 360 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 2: many of these guys on paper do you think could 361 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 2: potentially cancel that out, could make al made a fight 362 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 2: on the feet and forced to show us more of 363 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 2: his game. That's the real question. Heavyweight has never been 364 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 2: a home to great jiu jitsu or great wrestling on 365 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:07,680 Speaker 2: a consistent basis across the top ten. It's a striking division, Luke, 366 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:10,359 Speaker 2: we've got a cut. You know, we're not deep at 367 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:13,919 Speaker 2: the moment at UFC heavyweight, but you certainly like you 368 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:15,719 Speaker 2: know some of the guys coming up, and Tom Asmaal 369 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:17,960 Speaker 2: is gonna have a chance against Tiburra in late July 370 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:22,360 Speaker 2: to rebound from injury. But if he keeps fighting guys 371 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 2: on rosen strikes level, that's what you're gonna see. How 372 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 2: many do you think could legitimately give him a fight 373 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 2: right now? From what we know? 374 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:32,360 Speaker 1: Listen, tom Asmaal is a top prospect and a top 375 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:34,439 Speaker 1: ten well I guess I'm not sure where he's ranked, 376 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:36,200 Speaker 1: but certainly he's a guy who's got a very bright 377 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 1: future as well. We just didn't get to see what 378 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 1: was supposed to happen in the Curtis Blatz fight. He 379 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:42,879 Speaker 1: had a terrible injury and he's gonna come back now again. 380 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 1: I think he's got a bright future. He will probably 381 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:47,879 Speaker 1: cross paths with Almeida at some point, one thinks, But 382 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 1: because he's been off and I don't know what he's 383 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:52,920 Speaker 1: going to look like upon his return, I'm gonna slow 384 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:56,159 Speaker 1: roll that a little bit. Almeida, by contrast, is heating 385 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:58,360 Speaker 1: up very quickly. I mean, one of the things that's 386 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:01,159 Speaker 1: happening with these contests where I guess abdur Rokamov went 387 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:03,159 Speaker 1: to the second round or whatever, But I mean, just 388 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 1: listen to these wins bc SO on Saturday round one, 389 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 1: abdur Rokamov round two, Turkeley round one, Parker Porter round one, 390 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:15,440 Speaker 1: he had one. I don't know, ex. Danilo Marquez round one, 391 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 1: Contender Series round two. They can't even take this guy 392 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:20,119 Speaker 1: to the third round. You want to talk about staying 393 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 1: fresh through the calendar. They're barely laying a glove on 394 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:26,440 Speaker 1: the guy. So he's just ready to kind of take 395 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 1: off now. Aspinall does seem like he's the kind of 396 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 1: guy who's going to give someone like Almeta some problems. 397 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:35,120 Speaker 1: You would imagine he's a little bit naturally bigger, He's 398 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 1: very athletic, and if he isn't necessarily as technical, but 399 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:43,880 Speaker 1: technical enough to play prevam defense and stand right, that 400 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 1: could be kind of interesting. I mean, maybe Almeda is 401 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 1: the one trick pony who can feast on older kickboxers. 402 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:50,959 Speaker 1: Maybe that's the truth. I tend to think he's got 403 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 1: a higher ceiling than that, but we simply, we simply 404 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 1: don't know. I think they'll meet later on down the road. 405 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:58,640 Speaker 1: When I say, or when I ask, rather, is Almeida 406 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 1: a title threat, I mean this year or early next year. Aspinall, 407 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 1: I think probably just a little bit behind that. Unfortunately, 408 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:06,879 Speaker 1: due to the delay and injury. 409 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, and obviously when we talk about the questions, we 410 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 2: don't know. Almeida has only gone three full rounds one time, 411 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:16,359 Speaker 2: and he lost that fight. But there have been little 412 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 2: slight tests along the way, Luke, that have shown some things. 413 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 2: I mean the Abdurachimov fight, of which he finished him 414 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 2: in the second round with punches. Almeida got hit pretty 415 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 2: hard right in the opening ten seconds with a big shot, 416 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 2: adjusted well shook it off, no issues took over. And 417 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 2: let's not overlook that Dana White Contender Series win over Noserdinov, 418 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 2: who was not only bigger than Almeida, he had a 419 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:40,119 Speaker 2: legitimate SOMBO background. So what we had to see was 420 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 2: Almeida go to the well a couple times with the takedowns, 421 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:46,359 Speaker 2: which led up to a second round submission win. So 422 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 2: he is just persistent even when he meets some resistance 423 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 2: in those areas. The true test, obviously would be a 424 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:56,919 Speaker 2: legit striker with takedown defense, John Jones anyone, for sure. 425 00:19:57,240 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 2: But Luke, I do wonder even when Almeida finally gets 426 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:04,680 Speaker 2: up to that level where we expect him to get tested, 427 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:10,680 Speaker 2: like if he's persistent enough, if he's as explosive enough 428 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:13,360 Speaker 2: in his shots, which we often see his double leg 429 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:17,160 Speaker 2: is just so quick and out of nowhere and he's there, dude, 430 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 2: I mean, I want to see it. But do you 431 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 2: think John Jones could keep this guy off the ground. 432 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:22,680 Speaker 2: I don't know, Luke, I don't know that. 433 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 1: Do I think he can? 434 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 2: I don't know. 435 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 1: John Jones's takedown defence is pretty good. The question is like, Okay, 436 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 1: do I think Almeida can get Jones down? Maybe, but 437 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 1: probably not that well. But that's not again, it goes 438 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 1: back to the Algebner sterling thing. It's or Charles Olavera 439 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 1: or pick your guy. It's not really about getting the takedowns, 440 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 1: Like could he force John to his hands and then 441 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 1: from there begin to work from the back, Like, yeah, 442 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 1: that does actually seem possible. Of course, closing the distance 443 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:51,680 Speaker 1: on John is going to be a lot more difficult. 444 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 1: You're not going to run down doubles on your knees 445 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 1: against John Jones. That's simply not going to work. But BC, 446 00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 1: here's who is in front of him, or at least 447 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 1: other people he could fight. This is the top contenders. 448 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 1: Like gun to your head, tell me who you think 449 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:04,119 Speaker 1: would win? Ready? 450 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 2: Yep? 451 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:08,919 Speaker 1: Ready, Almeida versus Gone. I mean, how do you not 452 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 1: pick Almeida? Right? 453 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, I mean if we're will God have the 454 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:18,119 Speaker 2: same wrestling ability that he had in the Anganu and 455 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:20,440 Speaker 2: Jones fights? Luke, Yeah, okay, you're right, you're right. 456 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:23,240 Speaker 1: You're okay. Gun to your head. Almeida versus Pavlovitch. 457 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 2: So that's the perfect style contrast. Because it may be 458 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:31,919 Speaker 2: fairly easy, it also could be the reckoning for no 459 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:34,480 Speaker 2: matter how great his ground game is, because of somebody 460 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 2: with that long of arms, that size, that power, that's 461 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 2: a wait and see fight. I don't know, that's a 462 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:39,639 Speaker 2: wait and see. 463 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:45,920 Speaker 1: Ultimately, Almeida versus Miochiic I like Almeida. Almeida versus Blades. 464 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 2: I like Almeida again, although obviously you'd love to see 465 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:53,400 Speaker 2: that specific iteration for the wrestling defensive blades and how 466 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 2: that would work. But I don't know, Luke. I see 467 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 2: a confidence in him. I see a comfortability in certain 468 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:01,679 Speaker 2: carreas where I'm not Necessaryaly worried about his striking, like 469 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 2: we just haven't seen it to know, of course, But 470 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 2: you do look at the comparison he made of himself 471 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 2: to Habib. But Beeb's striking never became like technically perfect, 472 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 2: but he adapted it to make it work, to even 473 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:16,680 Speaker 2: enhance the threat of his own ground game even more. 474 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 2: It's just interesting because when we talk about John Jones 475 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:22,160 Speaker 2: this future and how this ties in here, He's got 476 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:25,359 Speaker 2: steep A this fall. We assume maybe November and New 477 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:28,880 Speaker 2: York City. You think he goes away for good. I think, 478 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 2: as long as they pay him, he stays around. I 479 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:34,359 Speaker 2: don't think Jones ducks a matchup like Pavlovich out of 480 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:37,720 Speaker 2: the idea of it being too dangerous for not enough money, 481 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:40,919 Speaker 2: as long as they give him enough money. But do 482 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:43,399 Speaker 2: you believe when John Jones looks at what we don't 483 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:45,720 Speaker 2: know about the two bright contenders of the moment, no 484 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:47,680 Speaker 2: disrespect to aspirinall, he's got to come back and prove 485 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 2: he's back from injury, then he's in there too. But 486 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 2: as of right now, Pavlovich and Almeida, which matchup does 487 00:22:57,359 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 2: John look at in those two and think is more difficult? 488 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 2: Is more of the unknown? 489 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 1: I think it's Almeida, Probably Almeida, only because Jones is 490 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:10,920 Speaker 1: not dumb enough to think standing with Pavlovich could work 491 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:12,440 Speaker 1: out for him long term. I mean, he could do 492 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 1: it a little bit here or there, but you know, 493 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:16,880 Speaker 1: the margin of error is thin, right, the guy hits hard. 494 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 1: But seeing what Overem did again, what Overing did to 495 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:23,679 Speaker 1: Pavlovich UFC debut. He's a different guy now, understand, But 496 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 1: I think he might follow a similar kind of blueprint work. 497 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 1: I could put this guy in his back and then 498 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 1: just really kind of work him, make him work from 499 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:32,159 Speaker 1: underneath while ground and pounding, you know, neon belly, that 500 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 1: kind of a thing. He can just get his way. 501 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 1: He probably would follow with some like dude, why would 502 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:39,160 Speaker 1: you fucking stand with Pavlovich at least early? Why would 503 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:41,879 Speaker 1: you do that? I mean, just a recipe for disaster. 504 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:44,880 Speaker 1: John probably has the capability of making a takedown there 505 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 1: against Almeida. I guess you could, you know, defend the 506 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 1: takedown and kind of jab his face. But it's a 507 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 1: little bit more of a risky proposition in that particular. Well, 508 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:54,440 Speaker 1: I mean, they're both risky in different ways, but you 509 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 1: get the idea. So it's a great question. I don't 510 00:23:57,520 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 1: know if either of them have the name value to 511 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 1: hold or to get the UFC to pay to hold John. 512 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:06,160 Speaker 1: Time will tell. Time will tell, certainly, But for now 513 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:13,880 Speaker 1: that's kind of that BC. Anything else about I'll say this, 514 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 1: like this main event. I appreciate how fast like he's working, 515 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:23,720 Speaker 1: and I'm glad they put him on ABC. I think 516 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:26,119 Speaker 1: that's the right thing they wanted to put their upcoming stars, 517 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 1: which kind of tells you that they've got Almeida spot lit. Sure, 518 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 1: it does seem like this win did a little bit 519 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:37,399 Speaker 1: for Almeida's visibility. It did a little bit for he 520 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:39,720 Speaker 1: had credibility with the hardcores, and of course that doesn't change. 521 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 1: But I guess what I'm asking is, do you feel 522 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 1: like he got a little bit of a bump on 523 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 1: Saturday promotionally and that it worked? 524 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:48,359 Speaker 2: I do, I do? You know? Will see how that 525 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 2: plays out in terms of the buzz and attention of 526 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 2: his next fight, which you assume would be even bigger 527 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:55,480 Speaker 2: in that escalation. But let's not forget this was on ABC. 528 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 2: It was in a you know, a packed arena there 529 00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:00,879 Speaker 2: in Charlotte, and we got to see him dominate on 530 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 2: his terms. Yeah, you'd have to believe that because he 531 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 2: looks like a hulk. He's dancing afterwards, you know what 532 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 2: I mean to But yeah, dude, this guy's coming on. 533 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 2: This is a smart move by the USC. I never 534 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:14,680 Speaker 2: hesitate to identify when they lean in that right direction. 535 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 1: Rather real quick to budden. I'm sorry, BC, but just 536 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:21,120 Speaker 1: to throw one more thing here, Remember Pavlovitch's last fight 537 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:23,720 Speaker 1: was in the Apex. They put this guy in a 538 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 1: live arena on ABC. I just feel like that's a 539 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 1: much better way to promote an up becoming guy. 540 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 2: You know. Indeed, indeed on that one, Luke, I agree 541 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 2: with you. 542 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:34,680 Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about point number two here if 543 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:37,440 Speaker 1: we can. We'll stay with UFC Charlotte, but let's discuss 544 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:39,680 Speaker 1: some of the other fights on that card. First things first, 545 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 1: So Johnny Walker actually got his first UFC win that 546 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 1: went beyond the first round in claiming a clear decision 547 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:49,440 Speaker 1: victory over Anthony Smith. That's three in a row now 548 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:54,119 Speaker 1: BC for Walker, tell me what his actual upside is 549 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 1: as it stands today. 550 00:25:56,960 --> 00:26:00,159 Speaker 2: I still believe he's a striker's threaty puncher's threat, but 551 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 2: let's throw in the strikers throat because his kicks are 552 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:04,960 Speaker 2: so great. To the heavyweight title, meaning, is he a 553 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:07,720 Speaker 2: complete fighter, I'm sorry, to the light heavyweight title. Is 554 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 2: he a complete fighter that could fight for the belt 555 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:12,680 Speaker 2: tomorrow and be a betting favorite. It's unlikely, Luke, even 556 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 2: though I liked him jumping the fence, going right over 557 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:18,000 Speaker 2: to the champion Jamal Hill and sort of having a 558 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 2: cordial moment, not a violent moment, and just saying, you know, 559 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:24,159 Speaker 2: we will meet again. All that, but look, this was 560 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 2: a better I believe iteration of him in this ongoing 561 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 2: process to mature his game under coach John Cavanaugh and 562 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 2: kind of figure out what's the best use. I still 563 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,920 Speaker 2: say they need to lean in allowing him to be dangerous, 564 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 2: which he was, but he was also, let's give him credit, 565 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:42,880 Speaker 2: very cautious against a Smith who was not only injured 566 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 2: in hurt a lot of this fight. We'll talk about 567 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 2: it shortly after, about his future, but even with at 568 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:51,400 Speaker 2: times the lifelessness down the stretch of Smith, you still 569 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 2: saw a Walker who wasn't looking to run in there 570 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:56,479 Speaker 2: and finish him. Johnny said afterwards that he really wanted 571 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:59,640 Speaker 2: to do something that would show the critics that he's 572 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:03,879 Speaker 2: more than just that a first round finisher. In that regard, 573 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 2: I think he passed that test. Is he a full 574 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,919 Speaker 2: complete fighter. No, But I think as long as he 575 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 2: stays with these aerial moves, as long as the threat 576 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 2: of the big strike is there, if he's mixing more 577 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,639 Speaker 2: nuanced parts of his game around that the stiff jab, 578 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:22,360 Speaker 2: he's getting better on the ground. He's close to figuring out. 579 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:25,639 Speaker 2: I think what is the best, full on, well rounded 580 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:27,719 Speaker 2: version of himself? And I say well rounded with an 581 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 2: asterisk because I don't think he's ever going to be 582 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 2: a well rounded fighter. He's a striker. He will have 583 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 2: a striking chance if he can get to the title 584 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:37,200 Speaker 2: fight three in a row. This was a big name 585 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:39,960 Speaker 2: to get past. Things are looking up for him, But 586 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,680 Speaker 2: is he a complete package? Is he a monster threat 587 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 2: for the championship at this point? I still say no. 588 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm somewhere, I think in the same kind of place. 589 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:49,639 Speaker 1: I mean, let's be real about this. As I mentioned 590 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 1: all of his other UFC wins came in the first round, 591 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:53,720 Speaker 1: which doesn't make him illegitimate, but it just kind of 592 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 1: makes you wonder, can he do this beyond just being 593 00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 1: a quick, dynamic, athletic first round threat. Turns out, yes 594 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:03,359 Speaker 1: he can. Now he was threatening throughout and including in 595 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:05,920 Speaker 1: the first round in this contest. But you know, I'll 596 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:08,400 Speaker 1: give him credit. There was times in his development, particularly 597 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 1: around like I don't know, maybe the Krillov fight, the 598 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:12,960 Speaker 1: Santos fight was like a real bad case. Maybe I'll 599 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:14,680 Speaker 1: say that one where I was like, man, I don't 600 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:16,919 Speaker 1: know what's happening with his evolution. Like I'm not saying 601 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 1: that he should go back to being wild and reckless 602 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:22,320 Speaker 1: and getting into the same kinds of problems he did before, 603 00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:24,880 Speaker 1: but this pivot doesn't seem to be working well now 604 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:28,119 Speaker 1: it seems to be coming together. Now, how far he 605 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 1: can take this new version of himself To your point, BC, 606 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:33,399 Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, I definitely feel like he 607 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:35,879 Speaker 1: can do really well. I think he'll beat tough guys. 608 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,000 Speaker 1: I don't know that I see and do. I think 609 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 1: he could beat Jamal Hill, I suppose, but I just 610 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 1: don't know if even if he did how long he 611 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,240 Speaker 1: would hold on to that title with guys like on 612 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 1: Calia still kind of hanging out there, although he's had 613 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:49,440 Speaker 1: his own struggles as well. But what I'm trying to 614 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 1: make here is he definitely is beginning to gel with 615 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 1: this style he's been working on now for some time. 616 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 1: It's coming together where you can see these flashes of athleticism, 617 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:03,360 Speaker 1: the jumping knee at times, throwing certain kinds of kicks. 618 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 1: But what does he throw really more than that? A 619 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,080 Speaker 1: lot of leg kicks right the calf care. 620 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:11,480 Speaker 2: Look, you pointed it out when we were watching the broadcast. 621 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 2: They're not too far apart in height, but his waist 622 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,840 Speaker 2: meaning the size of his legs, were so much larger 623 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:20,600 Speaker 2: than Smith. His legs are very thick to begin with 624 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 2: that that steady calfkick. Now, look, we were also questioning, 625 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 2: like why is Smith not checking these or trying to block, 626 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 2: or trying to do anything but just stand there and 627 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 2: eat them. I have those same questions, But that I 628 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 2: think is the perfect adaptation. You got to keep that 629 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 2: thread of the big strike, but the constant chipping away 630 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 2: with those legs strikes. Dude, I don't even know if 631 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 2: you can leg strike him in return. See how big 632 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 2: they were, how muscular. I don't know if you can 633 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 2: damage him in that. 634 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:47,560 Speaker 1: Regard, Yeah, oh, I mean I think you could. But 635 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 1: like to your point, yeah, it was. His dimensions are 636 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 1: crazy even for other light heavyweights. He uses them well 637 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:56,360 Speaker 1: and he was hammering him. But also with the calfkick 638 00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 1: keeps you far apart, right, I mean, you don't have 639 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 1: to be as close as you would for a leg 640 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 1: kick that would hit to the mid upper thigh. And 641 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 1: so you know, I'm just pointing out he's just making 642 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:08,480 Speaker 1: a lot better decisions while still being damaging and deadly 643 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:10,160 Speaker 1: and on it. And the fact that he went the 644 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:13,440 Speaker 1: full distance to me is a great sign. Actually, So 645 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,960 Speaker 1: to me it's like, I don't quite know where this 646 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:20,440 Speaker 1: is all headed. Before I thought it was headed maybe 647 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 1: off the tracks. That is not my concern anymore. Clearly 648 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 1: he's got something working here. He can do very very 649 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:30,920 Speaker 1: commendable things. Is are those championship things? I don't know, 650 00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 1: but I think he's gonna get pretty far with this 651 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:37,440 Speaker 1: much more fluid and I think you know, when I 652 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 1: say rehearsed, I don't mean robotically, I mean like muscle 653 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 1: memory wise, skill set, A much more rehearsed to get skills. 654 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:44,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, and we've got to see what happens in a 655 00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:45,840 Speaker 2: big fight when things aren't going his way. I do 656 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 2: have some questions about his punch resistance, not necessarily in 657 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 2: like one strike is gonna put him on you know, 658 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:53,640 Speaker 2: Queer Street and he's ready to be finished. I just 659 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 2: mean his offense tends to go silent at times when 660 00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 2: he gets hit big, which is something I you know, 661 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 2: that have to work on in the growth. But do 662 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 2: you agree with what he said afterwards? Do you think 663 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 2: he did purposely allow Smith to finish so that he 664 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:10,440 Speaker 2: could knock off that first round finishing tag on him 665 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:12,640 Speaker 2: and put in the three rounds or do you think 666 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:14,920 Speaker 2: that was him being a little bit nervous of the 667 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:16,720 Speaker 2: wounded out animal aspect of Smith. 668 00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 1: I believe him. I believe him. I think that they 669 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 1: knew they this was a time to I mean, I 670 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 1: guess if it really opened up and he could just 671 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:28,440 Speaker 1: finish him off relatively easily, maybe he would have. But 672 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:30,960 Speaker 1: to the extent that there was any kind of resistance, 673 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:33,520 Speaker 1: that was tricky. And that's the thing about Smith too. 674 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:35,960 Speaker 1: We'll talk about him in a minute. Sometimes his defense 675 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:37,840 Speaker 1: can be tricky. You know, you got to be pretty 676 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 1: careful with him. And we mentioned this about Smith too. 677 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:42,240 Speaker 1: You know, one of the reasons why Smith is able 678 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:44,240 Speaker 1: to hang on is and do really well at times. 679 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:47,480 Speaker 1: I think surprise people has been that he fights hurt 680 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,800 Speaker 1: without I mean, you know, he's struggling with the injury 681 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 1: or the or the pain, but he just kind of 682 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:55,280 Speaker 1: keeps on goings a. He has a real durability in 683 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,880 Speaker 1: those trenches. But I think that they definitely wanted to man, 684 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:00,800 Speaker 1: they knew this is what I mean, Like, it's not 685 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:02,800 Speaker 1: just wanting to take the fight three rounds, it's having 686 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:04,920 Speaker 1: the ability to actually do it when you want to, 687 00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 1: to be able to win comfortably on the scorecards, keep 688 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 1: out of trouble. He was getting out of the way 689 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,600 Speaker 1: of those like sort of lunging overhands that Smith was 690 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:13,880 Speaker 1: trying to set up to. He just made a lot 691 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:18,800 Speaker 1: better decisions, and I think being able to make consistently 692 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:22,000 Speaker 1: good ones over the course of time. That's the sign 693 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:23,680 Speaker 1: of a high level fighter, right when you can do 694 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:27,680 Speaker 1: that consistently throughout the expanse of a fight, keeping yourself 695 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,040 Speaker 1: out of trouble, hit not get hit, all those kinds 696 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:33,960 Speaker 1: of things. Dude, that's that's growth, that's development, that's maturity. 697 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 1: That's a great sign for Johnny Walker. And you know, 698 00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:39,520 Speaker 1: take my hat off to John Kavanaugh. They're doing, I think, 699 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:41,479 Speaker 1: a pretty commendable job with the guy, and they had 700 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:46,360 Speaker 1: a difficult assignment clearly to begin with. All right, BC, 701 00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:47,840 Speaker 1: I don't know if you're still there, if you're just 702 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:50,320 Speaker 1: reading your are you watching pornography? What are you doing? 703 00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 2: Well? I was listening to your analysis, Luke and looking 704 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,200 Speaker 2: to offer a rebut but I didn't. I didn't have 705 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 2: anything in that moment. You know, I'm trying to learn 706 00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:01,240 Speaker 2: that sometimes in life sometimes right, Yeah, less is. 707 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:04,880 Speaker 1: More, Less is more. BC. Let's talk about Anthony Smith. 708 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,760 Speaker 1: So the fight is over and he gets hurt in 709 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:09,680 Speaker 1: this fight, really bad. His legs got chewed up, he 710 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:11,320 Speaker 1: kind of got dropped. He went for a leg lock, 711 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:13,440 Speaker 1: it didn't work. There's just a lot that just did 712 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:14,960 Speaker 1: not go right for him. He got beat up a 713 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:18,280 Speaker 1: little bit. He nearly retired when the fight was over. 714 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:20,560 Speaker 1: He took his gloves off, but then apparently thought better 715 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:24,640 Speaker 1: of it, left the octagon and did not retire. And 716 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:28,160 Speaker 1: then afterwards on social media congratulated Johnny Walker and his 717 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:30,400 Speaker 1: team but there was something he said in the middle 718 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:35,960 Speaker 1: of the fight which got everyone's attention. He is facing off, basically, 719 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,280 Speaker 1: you know, in the middle of the contest with Walker, 720 00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:40,240 Speaker 1: and he says, you know, you're trying to hurt my family, 721 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:43,560 Speaker 1: and Walker's like, what the fuck are you talking about? 722 00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:45,440 Speaker 1: I don't even know what you're talking about? And he 723 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:50,240 Speaker 1: eventually lets it go. BC. What did you make of that? Number? One? 724 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 1: And secondly, what should be next for thirty four year 725 00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:54,960 Speaker 1: old Anthony Smith. 726 00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:59,560 Speaker 2: Look, we are tesked with being a dime store psychologist 727 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:01,760 Speaker 2: often on this show, and it's part of the job 728 00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:04,000 Speaker 2: of trying to gauge or figure out, you know, and 729 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:06,240 Speaker 2: interpret someone's words and what it meant based on the 730 00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:09,880 Speaker 2: emotions of the moment. My first instinct was this was 731 00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:15,279 Speaker 2: Anthony Smith trying to resuscitate the warrior within him in 732 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:18,719 Speaker 2: that round and trying to focus on the reasons the 733 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:23,200 Speaker 2: like like, Look, everybody's got a reason why they fight, 734 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:27,719 Speaker 2: why they are able to, I mean almost pause reality 735 00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:30,760 Speaker 2: and not only talk themselves up to being this warrior 736 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:33,680 Speaker 2: and going into the face of danger, but to digging 737 00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:36,520 Speaker 2: deep when times get hard. I almost felt like he 738 00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:40,280 Speaker 2: was dealing mid fight with his own set of questions 739 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:42,759 Speaker 2: of do I still want to be here? Should I 740 00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:46,160 Speaker 2: still be here? Look, he came out game, Luke. I 741 00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:48,720 Speaker 2: thought in the first two rounds especially, there were times 742 00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:52,120 Speaker 2: where he landed big countershots where you're like, oh, maybe okay, 743 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:54,240 Speaker 2: maybe he's still in the maybe he can still hurt Walker, 744 00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:56,880 Speaker 2: maybe he can turn this around. But starting with the 745 00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:58,480 Speaker 2: end of the second round and then through most of 746 00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:00,600 Speaker 2: the third, it not only he looked like he was 747 00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:02,920 Speaker 2: hanging out for survival, but I do take that little 748 00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:05,920 Speaker 2: weird sequence as him almost in the moment trying to 749 00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:09,560 Speaker 2: activate that call in response that every fighter must do 750 00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:12,879 Speaker 2: within themselves to stir up the emotions and come back 751 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:16,279 Speaker 2: out fighting, and may may have even had trouble activating that, 752 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:19,040 Speaker 2: which is why it actually came out verbally like you know, 753 00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:21,080 Speaker 2: mf or you're trying to take from my family, you know. 754 00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:23,480 Speaker 2: And this is why I do this. I'm not saying 755 00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:26,000 Speaker 2: because he's so young, Luke. Even though let's be fair, 756 00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:28,279 Speaker 2: Anthony Smith has had a lot of fights. He fought 757 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:32,640 Speaker 2: a lot on the regional scene. When he got to 758 00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:35,040 Speaker 2: the UFC title level, a lot of us wrongfully added 759 00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:38,120 Speaker 2: a stigma of oh, here's a thirteen or fifteen lost 760 00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:41,000 Speaker 2: guy getting to this point. No, that's somebody who worked 761 00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:44,040 Speaker 2: hard and evolved just through the blood, sweat and tears 762 00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:46,040 Speaker 2: of this game. But I do think he's at an 763 00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:48,800 Speaker 2: interesting crossroads where even though he's taken a lot of 764 00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:50,399 Speaker 2: damage and he's fought a lot of fights and he's 765 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:54,000 Speaker 2: pretty much only fought the best in this modern iteration 766 00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:57,279 Speaker 2: of him, I think he's hitting a wall now. And 767 00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:59,759 Speaker 2: does that wall mean he needs to walk away and retire. No, 768 00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:02,560 Speaker 2: not necessarily. There were moments he was in this fight. 769 00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:05,399 Speaker 2: He's only thirty four, but I think he does need 770 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:09,320 Speaker 2: some time off to heal mentally physically, to think about 771 00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:11,760 Speaker 2: where he's at in this game. Obviously, he's got the 772 00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:14,279 Speaker 2: side burgeoning career going with the announcing, and I think 773 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:15,840 Speaker 2: he does a very good job in that regard, and 774 00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:17,960 Speaker 2: I've really enjoyed getting to know him, and we had 775 00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:19,960 Speaker 2: him on Room service Diaries and we've had a lot 776 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:21,880 Speaker 2: of fun with him. But I think he hit a 777 00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:24,200 Speaker 2: little bit of a wall last night. And sometimes that's 778 00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:26,680 Speaker 2: just going so hard for so long, and the grind 779 00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:29,359 Speaker 2: of this sport physically and mentally adds up. But let's 780 00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:32,040 Speaker 2: not forget that before this fight, he was very honest 781 00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:34,920 Speaker 2: about why he fell apart against Ankliav and the loss 782 00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,080 Speaker 2: of his mom and the emotions that he didn't deal with. 783 00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:39,799 Speaker 2: Sometimes in this game, the best thing you can do 784 00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:43,279 Speaker 2: is take nine months a year off and just refresh, restart, 785 00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:47,440 Speaker 2: allow that hunger to come back. Maybe from my situation 786 00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:51,200 Speaker 2: in this dime store psychological chair, that would best describe 787 00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:55,480 Speaker 2: that weird interaction between them and what Smith's future could 788 00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:58,080 Speaker 2: or should be. But that's just my two cents, Luke. 789 00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:00,640 Speaker 2: I look at a guy who's such a hard worker, 790 00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:03,479 Speaker 2: he has taken a lot of damage, takes some time 791 00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:06,839 Speaker 2: off and go figure out for yourself more than anyone else, 792 00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:09,279 Speaker 2: whether you still got this and whether you still want this. 793 00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:12,080 Speaker 1: I feel bad. I remember he was supposed to fight 794 00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:15,480 Speaker 1: Jamal Hill back in March, and then the whole thing changed, 795 00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:18,160 Speaker 1: and here he finds himself now with a loss two 796 00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:22,120 Speaker 1: months later against Johnny Walker. I've known Anthony. You know, 797 00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:23,560 Speaker 1: we're not buddies or anything, but I've known him for 798 00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:28,440 Speaker 1: some time. I've not spoken to him yet, but I okay, 799 00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:30,359 Speaker 1: So there's a couple things to look at this. Chris 800 00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:33,680 Speaker 1: Curtis was on Twitter yesterday saying, you know, maybe he 801 00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:36,399 Speaker 1: never talking about Anthony Smith. And this is Curtis's view, 802 00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:39,400 Speaker 1: like he wasn't asserting it boldly. He was kind of 803 00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:41,400 Speaker 1: wondering maybe he never got over the trauma of that 804 00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:44,120 Speaker 1: home invasion and that it kind of just bubbled up 805 00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:48,080 Speaker 1: in this cauldron of adrenaline and stress and everything else. 806 00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:50,840 Speaker 1: That's an interesting theory because if that's true, that's actually, 807 00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:53,719 Speaker 1: you know, it would be something that Smith as a 808 00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:55,319 Speaker 1: person would want to look into just for his own 809 00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:58,719 Speaker 1: mental health if that kind of trauma is still surfacing. 810 00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:01,239 Speaker 1: The other one, of course, is the interpretation you had, 811 00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:03,920 Speaker 1: which was that he was trying to conjure the feelings 812 00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:06,360 Speaker 1: he had during that moment in order to conquer the 813 00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:09,399 Speaker 1: difficulty of this one, and it just didn't translate. He'll 814 00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:13,440 Speaker 1: be thirty five in July, and to your point, he's 815 00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:16,000 Speaker 1: got a lot of fights. He's past fifty's working closer 816 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,520 Speaker 1: to sixty fights at this point in his pro career. 817 00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:20,120 Speaker 1: I mean, it's a lot of wear and tear, it's 818 00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:22,000 Speaker 1: a lot of mild but BC, I don't know if 819 00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:23,840 Speaker 1: the time off is the right idea. Here's what I 820 00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:27,240 Speaker 1: mean by that. Right, So in twenty twenty he fought 821 00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:30,480 Speaker 1: let's see three times right, winning last against Devin Clark. 822 00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:33,319 Speaker 1: He fought twice in twenty twenty one, winning both of those. 823 00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:35,799 Speaker 1: He fought once in twenty twenty two against Uncle iive 824 00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:38,200 Speaker 1: then he had the injury, so this is his only 825 00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:41,120 Speaker 1: fight in twenty twenty three. Like that, he's actually getting 826 00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:44,440 Speaker 1: less experience as the years go on. He's taking more 827 00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:46,600 Speaker 1: and more time off, He's getting more and more injuries. 828 00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:49,200 Speaker 1: Is more of that really the antidote? I mean, it 829 00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:50,560 Speaker 1: seems to me he's had a bit more of a 830 00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:55,400 Speaker 1: crossroads than, you know, comfortable analysis might necessarily allow. I 831 00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:58,120 Speaker 1: don't know what he wants, you know, again, I have 832 00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:01,440 Speaker 1: profound respect for anthonyad do believe in his ability to 833 00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:05,680 Speaker 1: He's one of the very few fighters I've ever come 834 00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:07,279 Speaker 1: into contact with. It's one of the reasons why I 835 00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:13,560 Speaker 1: think he is special. Who is totally He actually should 836 00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:17,600 Speaker 1: get much more credit for dealing with his own beliefs 837 00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:21,000 Speaker 1: about his own limits or injuries or he's just he's aware. 838 00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:23,560 Speaker 1: I think of some of the things that hold him back, 839 00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:27,759 Speaker 1: and yet still finds ways to negotiate a path through. 840 00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:29,920 Speaker 1: I know sometimes he says things confidently about how well 841 00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:32,879 Speaker 1: he would do against Jones, and everyone dismisses him and saying, oh, 842 00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:36,440 Speaker 1: he's got delusions. Well, every fighter's got delusions. But the 843 00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:38,239 Speaker 1: point I want to make is that in general I 844 00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:42,080 Speaker 1: have found him much more thoughtful and reflective about the 845 00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:45,080 Speaker 1: obstacles the world presents than a lot of other athletes, 846 00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:47,680 Speaker 1: and I don't and he yet still perseveres. So I 847 00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:50,000 Speaker 1: think he'll come to whatever conclusion is appropriate for him 848 00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:52,640 Speaker 1: in the end. But this is an interesting moment. Man 849 00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:55,960 Speaker 1: thirty five years of age to fight losing streak, which 850 00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:58,480 Speaker 1: is not the end of the world. It's against good fighters. 851 00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,080 Speaker 1: But if he was gonna to make one more push, 852 00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:03,920 Speaker 1: I don't know. He seemed to be like you see, 853 00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:05,880 Speaker 1: Was it just the calf kicks or how did he 854 00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:08,680 Speaker 1: seem physically to your Maybe there's no That's what I 855 00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:10,919 Speaker 1: was gonna ask going. 856 00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:13,400 Speaker 2: The final round. In particular, Luke, there were body language 857 00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:16,200 Speaker 2: moments that I just didn't understand. There were long moments 858 00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:18,200 Speaker 2: you and I were watching this fight together where he 859 00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:20,239 Speaker 2: just wasn't throwing, And it wasn't as if he just 860 00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:24,200 Speaker 2: wasn't throwing in the midst of overwhelming offense coming his way. 861 00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:27,560 Speaker 2: There seemed to be some level of a disconnect between what, 862 00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:29,560 Speaker 2: you know, what his brain was was wanting to do 863 00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:32,640 Speaker 2: and what his body was actually doing. Those are warning signs, 864 00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:34,480 Speaker 2: and that's why I you know, brought up the idea 865 00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:36,920 Speaker 2: of time off to figure this out. That was not 866 00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:39,279 Speaker 2: the best version of him, you know what I'm saying. 867 00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:42,400 Speaker 2: And something seemed to change in that fight that seemed 868 00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:46,440 Speaker 2: to go beyond just a potential injury or oh he's losing, 869 00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:48,720 Speaker 2: so the body language is going in the wrong direction. 870 00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:51,520 Speaker 2: It just looked like he wasn't taking advantage of potential 871 00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:54,040 Speaker 2: openings where yeah, he's got he's gotta he's got to 872 00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:57,319 Speaker 2: figure this out, Luke, because I mean, look, he's he's 873 00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:00,000 Speaker 2: not too far removed from from defeating you know, three 874 00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:04,239 Speaker 2: fight win streak against very talented contenders. But he does 875 00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:06,280 Speaker 2: have a you know, a beautiful family and a burgeoning 876 00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:08,319 Speaker 2: second career. There are a lot of tough decisions to 877 00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:10,960 Speaker 2: make on here. But man, he is only thirty four, Luke. 878 00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:13,440 Speaker 2: Let's not age him yet. Okay, you know, his birthday's 879 00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:16,480 Speaker 2: one day after mine. I mean, maybe maybe he should 880 00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:18,759 Speaker 2: take some time off and help me open Factory Town. Mma. 881 00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:19,680 Speaker 2: Maybe that's the future. 882 00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:21,960 Speaker 1: Maybe that's the path for him again. I think he'll 883 00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:26,840 Speaker 1: eventually figure this out before it gets, you know, to 884 00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:31,080 Speaker 1: any kind of horrible, horrible place. I just didn't It 885 00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:33,759 Speaker 1: wasn't There's a couple of times he got close with 886 00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:35,960 Speaker 1: some of those overhands where he was chasing it through 887 00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:38,440 Speaker 1: combin their through stance, where it was like just a 888 00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:40,959 Speaker 1: little bit short, you know. It wasn't like he didn't 889 00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:42,840 Speaker 1: have a couple of times where he was closely threatening. 890 00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:47,080 Speaker 1: But it just seemed also like it's the first time 891 00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:49,400 Speaker 1: I've seen him where I thought, not with injuries, but 892 00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:51,200 Speaker 1: the first time I've seen him where I thought he 893 00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:54,360 Speaker 1: definitely looked older than the last time I remember him 894 00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:57,239 Speaker 1: that was. But again, was it the CAF kicks, I 895 00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:58,000 Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know. 896 00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:00,399 Speaker 2: Johnny Walker is also a big m effort when he's 897 00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:01,880 Speaker 2: when he's kicking you in the leg. 898 00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:05,359 Speaker 1: Fifty debilitating exactly. So that's why it's hard to tell. 899 00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:07,919 Speaker 1: All right, BC, how about this one? And I gotta 900 00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:10,000 Speaker 1: eat some crow on this one too, But if you want, 901 00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:13,840 Speaker 1: you can go first. Ian Gary got easily the best 902 00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:17,960 Speaker 1: win of his career, stopping Dane Rodriguez in the first round, 903 00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:21,520 Speaker 1: and BC he didn't just stop him. But I went 904 00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:23,040 Speaker 1: back and I watched it this morning. I'm not sure 905 00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:25,200 Speaker 1: if you took a whole lot of punches clean at all. 906 00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:27,320 Speaker 1: I'm not sure what de Rod got through even a 907 00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:30,440 Speaker 1: little bit. De Rod is a good fighter, and Gary 908 00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:34,520 Speaker 1: mode through him. Tell me what your sense of how 909 00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:38,120 Speaker 1: big this victory is for this, for this twenty's realizing walterweight. 910 00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:40,879 Speaker 2: It's big and I and I think he dialed back. Look, 911 00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:43,600 Speaker 2: let's be fair, Ian, Gary sometimes can can you know, 912 00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:46,400 Speaker 2: do the do the Connor so, you know, Billy Strutt 913 00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:48,560 Speaker 2: and do that whole shtick that can wear people down. 914 00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:51,400 Speaker 2: I like, actually liked his post fight speech, which was, 915 00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:54,680 Speaker 2: you know, very confident that I'm coming on, I'm next, Hey, UFC, 916 00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:58,840 Speaker 2: I'm your next star. But wasn't overly douchey, to be fair. 917 00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:01,880 Speaker 2: But that's stuff is all just window dressing. It's what 918 00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:04,360 Speaker 2: happens in the cage. This was the fight that was 919 00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:07,400 Speaker 2: supposed to either slow him down or force him to 920 00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:10,160 Speaker 2: make some big adjustments. And we're gonna find out beyond 921 00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:13,439 Speaker 2: the flashy striking, who is he as a fighter. Well, 922 00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:17,920 Speaker 2: the flashy striking was calculated and deadly, along with being flashy, 923 00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:20,040 Speaker 2: and that was enough to get rid of a durable, 924 00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:22,879 Speaker 2: tough contender that yeah, damn right, you and I need 925 00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:26,040 Speaker 2: to etcrow. We all need to readjust where his ceiling is. 926 00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:29,360 Speaker 2: Whenever you're sort of it's weird. He's not the second 927 00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:31,919 Speaker 2: covering of McGregor. He'll say it himself. It's just he's 928 00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:35,880 Speaker 2: the next Irish bright prospect on the rise, so that 929 00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:41,480 Speaker 2: that can really get you branded as things you maybe aren't. Ian, 930 00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:44,680 Speaker 2: Gary is I and Gary Luke. But he's dangerous and 931 00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:47,759 Speaker 2: this is this is interesting. This was a this was 932 00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:51,040 Speaker 2: a pleasant development in my opinion, in terms of of okay, 933 00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:53,000 Speaker 2: you get a win like this, all right, let's match 934 00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:55,400 Speaker 2: you now with the guys that'll really show us exactly 935 00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:58,160 Speaker 2: who you are. But Luke, speaking of exactly who he is? 936 00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:01,120 Speaker 2: Did I not get the memo on Schado his nickname? 937 00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:03,640 Speaker 2: And why we now have to say we can't say 938 00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:06,560 Speaker 2: Ian or Gary without putting Machado between them. It's almost 939 00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:08,359 Speaker 2: like the PFL smart Cage. It's like, you know, if 940 00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:10,719 Speaker 2: you're gonna say the three letters, you better talk about 941 00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:13,800 Speaker 2: that cage's intelligence. Where did I miss this? We're suddenly 942 00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:15,440 Speaker 2: his middle name is a part of his you know, 943 00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:17,359 Speaker 2: is a part of the whole thing. What does that mean? 944 00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:19,680 Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not sure. I'm not I've not gotten 945 00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:20,560 Speaker 1: that memo. So for now. 946 00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:23,040 Speaker 2: There was a lot of mashado shoved at us through 947 00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:25,919 Speaker 2: the screen. I was like, Okay, I'm not sure. 948 00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:28,520 Speaker 1: I'm not sure. I mean, I'm I don't. Yeah, I 949 00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:31,319 Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know. All I know is his 950 00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:34,640 Speaker 1: name is Ian Gary. So for now, unless I'm corrected otherwise, 951 00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:37,480 Speaker 1: I'll stick with that. But BC, I gotta say, it 952 00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:42,160 Speaker 1: wasn't like I was. I did not go into Saturday 953 00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:46,759 Speaker 1: declaring that I knew Ian Gary wasn't going to be 954 00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:49,080 Speaker 1: good or couldn't rise to the occasion or something like. 955 00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:52,479 Speaker 2: It wasn't like I's not on camera, right, Luke, Well. 956 00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:54,640 Speaker 1: Here's here's the that's hilarious, But here's the point I 957 00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:57,400 Speaker 1: want to make me see. Listen to these wins Jordan Williams, 958 00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:00,800 Speaker 1: Darian Weeks, Gabe Green and Keenan Song. The Williams and 959 00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:03,759 Speaker 1: the Song ones were stoppages too, were decisions, and that 960 00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:05,880 Speaker 1: gave Green fight Actually watched very closely because some of 961 00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:08,360 Speaker 1: the hype around it at the time. Uh, that was 962 00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:10,400 Speaker 1: that was a for UFC two seventy six. It was 963 00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:14,400 Speaker 1: International Fight Week. He looked fine in all of those fights, 964 00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:16,879 Speaker 1: like there was there's really nothing wrong in any of them, 965 00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:19,000 Speaker 1: But I just wasn't sure what other people were seeing, 966 00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:21,640 Speaker 1: like where it could give you a clear set like, 967 00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:23,799 Speaker 1: oh wow, he's destined for Like, for example, first time 968 00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:26,240 Speaker 1: I saw sar Yuki and he lost. He lost against 969 00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:29,920 Speaker 1: Islam Makachev, but what he showed on camera was clearly 970 00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:33,000 Speaker 1: like holy shit, like this guy's really good. Gay excuse me. 971 00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:36,320 Speaker 1: Gary looked like totally looked fine, but like I didn't 972 00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:38,680 Speaker 1: see anything that gave me that sense of like, Okay, 973 00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:40,680 Speaker 1: the next level is coming up quick and he's gonna 974 00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:42,360 Speaker 1: hit it. I had more of like a wait and 975 00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:47,080 Speaker 1: see approach. Okay, I've seen it. That was amazing. There's 976 00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:49,319 Speaker 1: just that you can't say anything else like that was. 977 00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:53,680 Speaker 1: He did that expertly from the beginning of that fight 978 00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:55,759 Speaker 1: right up until the end. Maybe a couple shots to 979 00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:58,360 Speaker 1: the back of the head when de Rod was crouched 980 00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:00,680 Speaker 1: up rolling, but by that point the fight was basically 981 00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:03,160 Speaker 1: over anyway. He'd been dropped with that vicious headkick, as 982 00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:06,440 Speaker 1: I mentioned, barely took a punch at all. Then gets 983 00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:11,480 Speaker 1: on the microphone afterwards BC and says, I want Neil Magni, 984 00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:14,440 Speaker 1: a guy who is difficult for a lot of walterweights 985 00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:17,520 Speaker 1: to be, who is highly experienced, who folks know as 986 00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:20,680 Speaker 1: a name for kind of if you're going to go 987 00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:23,160 Speaker 1: places that you have to go through Neil Magni first, 988 00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:24,640 Speaker 1: and if you don't you're not ready for that. He's 989 00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:29,000 Speaker 1: going to show you pretty quickly, like just absolutely rising 990 00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:33,319 Speaker 1: to the occasion, doing it beautifully, understanding the moment and 991 00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:37,480 Speaker 1: then seeking the kind of challenge next that is exactly 992 00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:41,520 Speaker 1: the one he needs for fuller, broader, forward moving credibility. Dude, 993 00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:45,520 Speaker 1: I was extremely impressed. I have seen now something legitimately 994 00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:47,880 Speaker 1: that gives me hope that he can really do something 995 00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:52,400 Speaker 1: special in this welterweight division. That was a test past 996 00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:56,759 Speaker 1: with flying colors for ed Heury count me BC as 997 00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:57,280 Speaker 1: a believer. 998 00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:01,239 Speaker 2: And again a decent level of maturity for a guy 999 00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:05,080 Speaker 2: who is flashy and is this bright prospect. And I 1000 00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:07,399 Speaker 2: don't just mean maturity in the cage to set up 1001 00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:10,520 Speaker 2: the deadly strike that finished him, but also how he 1002 00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:13,160 Speaker 2: handled himself. I mean that's a smart call out of Magni, 1003 00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:15,200 Speaker 2: as you said, and it's not an easy guy. It's 1004 00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:17,480 Speaker 2: not a guy who's got this big hole in his 1005 00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:19,319 Speaker 2: game that you can go exploit. It's a guy that 1006 00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:22,000 Speaker 2: you have to beat to Look, if this one puts 1007 00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:23,560 Speaker 2: him in the top fifteen, then, as he said on 1008 00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:25,520 Speaker 2: the microphone, a win over Magne, he's gonna get him 1009 00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:29,799 Speaker 2: really close to that overall title picture. But speaking of 1010 00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:32,920 Speaker 2: maturity and the character he plays as the twenty five 1011 00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:36,040 Speaker 2: year old young Irish guy who has next, what did 1012 00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:39,719 Speaker 2: you make of, Luke? The knocking on the door apparently 1013 00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:45,440 Speaker 2: of d Rod's hotel room with a pizza and a 1014 00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:49,360 Speaker 2: box of weed. And did you see this, Luke? They 1015 00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:51,759 Speaker 2: had a hidden camera down the hall. One of d 1016 00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:54,960 Speaker 2: Rod's trainers opened up his own hotel room or I'm 1017 00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:59,120 Speaker 2: sorry training partners, picked up the pizza in marijuana, went 1018 00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:02,520 Speaker 2: back inside with it, and then Daniel Rodriguez misses weight 1019 00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:05,560 Speaker 2: the next day. Now is that just a you know, 1020 00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:10,080 Speaker 2: a TikTok skit? Or is that real? Did that really happen? 1021 00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:11,239 Speaker 2: Do you like that? 1022 00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:14,000 Speaker 1: I have a feeling it's just a TikTok skit. I mean, 1023 00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:17,759 Speaker 1: you're not just by putting that there and that he 1024 00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:21,520 Speaker 1: misses weight, you're not in any way establishing a causal relationship. 1025 00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:24,840 Speaker 1: You're just saying two events happened, Oh, they must be related. 1026 00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:27,960 Speaker 1: Maybe maybe I can't say that they're not related. I 1027 00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:29,640 Speaker 1: have a feeling that they're probably not related. 1028 00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:32,880 Speaker 2: Okay, but do you like that level of outward gamesmanship? 1029 00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:36,800 Speaker 2: That's you're showing people that there's layers to this, And 1030 00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:38,600 Speaker 2: I'll get in your head if I need to do 1031 00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:40,280 Speaker 2: you like that mental warfare? 1032 00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:43,160 Speaker 1: I'm not really the audience for that, but it doesn't 1033 00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:45,440 Speaker 1: really matter if I am right. It doesn't matter if 1034 00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:48,120 Speaker 1: I like that sort of thing. The question is what 1035 00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:51,719 Speaker 1: does it do for Ian Gary's mindset? Right? Like, if 1036 00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:55,040 Speaker 1: doing those kinds of things on fight week, Whether you 1037 00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:56,799 Speaker 1: like them or I like them, whether you hate them 1038 00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:58,960 Speaker 1: or I hate that, it doesn't matter. The question is 1039 00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:02,960 Speaker 1: does that get him in a better competitive space by 1040 00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:05,560 Speaker 1: Saturday night for fight time? Because if if it does, 1041 00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:08,320 Speaker 1: then a he should keep doing it and be he will. 1042 00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:11,840 Speaker 1: So it doesn't really matter what I think. I'm audience 1043 00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:13,680 Speaker 1: for that kind of TikTok content. No. 1044 00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:15,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know you're an old man masquerading as a 1045 00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:17,600 Speaker 2: guy who's one year younger than me, But I was 1046 00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:21,640 Speaker 2: really wondering is, dude, were you smitten at all that 1047 00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:24,239 Speaker 2: Ian had the same Uber Eats order that you often have? 1048 00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:26,839 Speaker 1: No, wait, wait what did he get? 1049 00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:30,000 Speaker 2: He got pizza and weed? Louke, Come on now, oh 1050 00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:30,400 Speaker 2: I would do. 1051 00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:33,000 Speaker 1: Let me tell you something. If Uber Eats delivered weed, 1052 00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:35,839 Speaker 1: it'd be over for my bank account. It'd be I mean, 1053 00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:38,120 Speaker 1: fuck off, you know what I mean. I just don't 1054 00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:38,879 Speaker 1: even know what I would do with. 1055 00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:40,239 Speaker 2: My all right, if they could combine that with a 1056 00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:43,319 Speaker 2: BBL escorts surface, Luke, is that a dream idea or 1057 00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:45,399 Speaker 2: do we need to uh? Yeah, we could probably pull 1058 00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:46,080 Speaker 2: back a little bit. 1059 00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:48,200 Speaker 1: That's you know, a day after Mother's Day. I feel 1060 00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:50,479 Speaker 1: like that's blasphemous. But the answer to the question is yes. 1061 00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:52,800 Speaker 2: Well, everybody keeps sending me this video of this creepy 1062 00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:55,880 Speaker 2: old guy with this lady and he's like, only in Columbia. 1063 00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:57,120 Speaker 2: I'm not showing that shit on. 1064 00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:59,040 Speaker 1: This show to me too. They send it to me too. 1065 00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:01,240 Speaker 1: What people should know is those are like prepaid girls, 1066 00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:01,680 Speaker 1: they called them. 1067 00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:02,040 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1068 00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:05,120 Speaker 2: I don't support the sex trade, folks, Okay, this is 1069 00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:07,280 Speaker 2: not You're. 1070 00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:09,480 Speaker 1: Sending me clips of creepy old dudes who have money 1071 00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:12,759 Speaker 1: paying for escorts in Colombia. That's not evidence you can 1072 00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:15,279 Speaker 1: pull ass in Colombia. That's just evidence you can buy it. 1073 00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:16,440 Speaker 1: Big difference. 1074 00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:19,320 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, get away from me please. 1075 00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:24,319 Speaker 1: Uh Okay, But to the point, congratulations see Ian Gary, phenomenal, 1076 00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:27,640 Speaker 1: phenomenal win. ANDBC, I'm gonna say it again with Jaylon 1077 00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:31,160 Speaker 1: jileton Almeta. He didn't take hardly any damage in this fight. 1078 00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:32,600 Speaker 1: I know the training camps are can offer me the 1079 00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:34,760 Speaker 1: hardest part, but I'm saying it's not like he's getting 1080 00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:36,719 Speaker 1: his ass whipped in these I don't know how fast 1081 00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:38,600 Speaker 1: and Neil Magni fight can be put together. I don't 1082 00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:40,000 Speaker 1: know if Neil wants it. I haven't seen if he 1083 00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:43,239 Speaker 1: responded on social media or not, but they could do 1084 00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:45,759 Speaker 1: that one relatively quickly, and I don't think folks would 1085 00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:46,640 Speaker 1: be that upset about it. 1086 00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:48,360 Speaker 2: I agree with you, Luke Thomas. 1087 00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:50,880 Speaker 1: All right, let's move on to this one. This is uh. 1088 00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:53,560 Speaker 1: I gotta be honest, BC, this one just broke my heart. 1089 00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:56,000 Speaker 1: If I could be, if I could be completely candid 1090 00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:58,920 Speaker 1: with you, I really got a sick feeling in my 1091 00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:02,360 Speaker 1: stomach going to Ben Saturday night. So let's sort of 1092 00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:04,799 Speaker 1: state what happened here Roly Romero moves up to one 1093 00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:07,320 Speaker 1: hundred and forty pounds in the main event on Showtime 1094 00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:11,240 Speaker 1: Championship Boxing. It was supposed to be against Albert Opoigo. 1095 00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:14,120 Speaker 1: He tests positive for koma fine, so he's out. So 1096 00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:17,640 Speaker 1: they bring in this gentleman Ismael, but also from Venezuela, 1097 00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:20,959 Speaker 1: who had been, as I mentioned before, the mandatory since 1098 00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:24,319 Speaker 1: December of twenteen nineteen. They kept delaying them and delaying him, 1099 00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:26,799 Speaker 1: and delay them. Finally he gets this opportunity by virtue 1100 00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:28,520 Speaker 1: of the drug pull out for the original main eventor 1101 00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:30,920 Speaker 1: and here is what the line was, because you tell 1102 00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:32,480 Speaker 1: me if I'm getting any part of this wrong. The 1103 00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:34,600 Speaker 1: line was Roly should win this. He's coming off the 1104 00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:37,080 Speaker 1: Tank Davis fight. He showed some maturity in that one, 1105 00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:39,960 Speaker 1: giving Tanks some problems early before being ultimately finished off 1106 00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:42,759 Speaker 1: in the six. Now he has what he needs to 1107 00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:45,960 Speaker 1: move into that next spot, but also can crack. He 1108 00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:48,960 Speaker 1: wasn't completely out of it, we thought, but you know, 1109 00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:54,000 Speaker 1: probably should lose and then the fight starts, but also 1110 00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:56,759 Speaker 1: was winning it. Just to be extremely clear, he was 1111 00:51:56,800 --> 00:52:00,239 Speaker 1: winning it. On Steve Farhood's on official scorecard, all three 1112 00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:02,840 Speaker 1: judges had him up at the time of the stoppage. 1113 00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:06,040 Speaker 1: But in round nine Roly Romero was landing. I want 1114 00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:07,520 Speaker 1: to be clear. He was losing up to that point, 1115 00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:11,240 Speaker 1: getting dropped in the third, he was landing in the ninth. 1116 00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:13,840 Speaker 1: But at the time of the stoppage, in fact, he 1117 00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:19,040 Speaker 1: had absorbed two punches and uh, but he even pushed. 1118 00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:21,839 Speaker 1: You see it right there, he pushed, but also down. 1119 00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:25,040 Speaker 1: He absorbs two punches, none of his punches land. And 1120 00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:27,279 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be very clear about this, BC, that is 1121 00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:30,759 Speaker 1: the worst stoppage in boxing I have ever seen that. 1122 00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:33,480 Speaker 1: That's not convincing enough for you. Dan Rafael has been 1123 00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:35,839 Speaker 1: watching it for forty years, said it's the worst he's 1124 00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:40,760 Speaker 1: ever seen. BC. Unpack this for me. What on earth 1125 00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:43,400 Speaker 1: happened here? And then I want to talk about what 1126 00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:44,360 Speaker 1: should happen next? 1127 00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:46,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean this is as bad as he gets. 1128 00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:49,480 Speaker 2: All you who love love to sit in the shadows 1129 00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:51,760 Speaker 2: and do it the hole. I told you so. Boxing 1130 00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:54,880 Speaker 2: is gross, it's corrupt, it's the worst, it's the whatever, 1131 00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:57,600 Speaker 2: it's the death. It's never coming back. This is why 1132 00:52:57,640 --> 00:53:00,319 Speaker 2: we can't have nice things. Yeah, yeah, yeah, unfortunate. This 1133 00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:03,680 Speaker 2: is exactly when you're in a fight in which the 1134 00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:08,080 Speaker 2: more popular fighter, the slugger is down on the cards 1135 00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:11,160 Speaker 2: and is trying to rally back, and then you have 1136 00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:15,400 Speaker 2: this sort of oop stoppage. You're automatically going to get 1137 00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:19,120 Speaker 2: that response and that feeling. But to me, the problems 1138 00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:23,080 Speaker 2: go deeper here, and it's breaking my heart because we're 1139 00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:26,480 Speaker 2: always when stuff like this happens, judgment calls. You're always 1140 00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:29,520 Speaker 2: in that spot as a fan and journalist where you're like, man, 1141 00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:33,960 Speaker 2: you know that smells really bad. Is that is that 1142 00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:38,680 Speaker 2: corruption or is that ineptitude? And you know, neither are 1143 00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:41,560 Speaker 2: a good answer right to the health of the sport. 1144 00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:45,239 Speaker 2: But either way, we're talking about Tony Weeks. We're talking 1145 00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:48,600 Speaker 2: about a Hall of Fame referee, sixty six years old, 1146 00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:52,160 Speaker 2: the guy who refereed Corrals Castillo one in two thousand 1147 00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:55,120 Speaker 2: and five, which is arguably the greatest fight of all 1148 00:53:55,160 --> 00:54:00,719 Speaker 2: time and only became that because what's Tony Week's reputation? Referee? 1149 00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:05,320 Speaker 2: He's liberal, He's a fighter or a fan friendly referee 1150 00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:09,160 Speaker 2: because he lets you fight. Okay, did you see Mayweather 1151 00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:12,160 Speaker 2: versus My Donna one and two? Tony Weeks ref the 1152 00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:15,040 Speaker 2: first one, my Donna was allowed to fight on the 1153 00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:17,360 Speaker 2: inside and kind of brawl and it was this close, 1154 00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:21,080 Speaker 2: really fun, majority decision win for Mayweather. They run back 1155 00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:24,399 Speaker 2: the rematch, you bring in Kenny Bayliss, a more conservative 1156 00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:27,359 Speaker 2: referee in Floyd's running circles around my donna. Okay, so 1157 00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:30,000 Speaker 2: you know the reputation Weeks has even though he's sixty 1158 00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:33,640 Speaker 2: six and he's been around forever. But this isn't just 1159 00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:37,280 Speaker 2: the stoppage that knockdown. If we can run that knockdown 1160 00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:40,600 Speaker 2: again in that highlight package, to me, that knockdown is 1161 00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:43,680 Speaker 2: even worse than the stoppage because twenty Weeks was on 1162 00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:46,560 Speaker 2: top of the action. And even though Roly landed two 1163 00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:50,240 Speaker 2: punches early in round nine to hurt Barroso the punch 1164 00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:52,400 Speaker 2: that knocked him down, and there's the early knockdown in 1165 00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:54,399 Speaker 2: round three, and now we go into the round nine 1166 00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:57,120 Speaker 2: the first knockdown. Weeks didn't miss this. He was on 1167 00:54:57,160 --> 00:54:59,560 Speaker 2: top of this. But even though those two punches landed, 1168 00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:06,080 Speaker 2: that's in obvious push obvious, like beyond obvious when you 1169 00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:10,279 Speaker 2: package that with a stoppage in which Brossa was not 1170 00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:13,239 Speaker 2: even getting hit. There was a push punch by Rolli, 1171 00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:15,880 Speaker 2: which was the only clean punch that landed a push 1172 00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:20,239 Speaker 2: directly to the face. Here's the problem. If it's ineptitude, 1173 00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:24,279 Speaker 2: it's sad because Weeks is a legend in this game. 1174 00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:26,759 Speaker 2: Fans love him as a referee for a reason. And 1175 00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:29,200 Speaker 2: it's not just his hip hair part, Luke, it's that 1176 00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:32,359 Speaker 2: he lets them fight. He doesn't he doesn't jump in 1177 00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:35,520 Speaker 2: and get in the way. So if it's ineptitude, it sucks, 1178 00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:41,800 Speaker 2: and it's a further it's a further cry to jurisdictions 1179 00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:43,880 Speaker 2: like the Nevada State Athletic Commission, which we don't have 1180 00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:47,600 Speaker 2: a ton of respect for at times, for their decision 1181 00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:51,120 Speaker 2: making that they allow the same old characters and it's 1182 00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:53,440 Speaker 2: not an ageous thing, but they do allow the same 1183 00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:56,239 Speaker 2: recurring cast of characters to keep coming through. It's just 1184 00:55:56,280 --> 00:55:58,799 Speaker 2: that Tony Weeks had always been a great one. And 1185 00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:01,840 Speaker 2: this isn't just one black eye, it's two in the 1186 00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:04,839 Speaker 2: same round, in the same fight. And of course that 1187 00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:07,719 Speaker 2: then leads you to the other direction. How could you 1188 00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:10,160 Speaker 2: be that inept as an elite referee? Could you make 1189 00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:13,720 Speaker 2: too monumental back to back mistakes in the same round 1190 00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:18,600 Speaker 2: which only support the money fighter, right, the fighter who 1191 00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:22,319 Speaker 2: fights on this network, who is a big draw potentially, 1192 00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:24,839 Speaker 2: especially as a B side against Ryan Garcia or any 1193 00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:27,520 Speaker 2: other matchups you want to create. Well, then it starts 1194 00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:31,640 Speaker 2: to look beyond ineptitude and it looks like corroboration and corruption, 1195 00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:34,280 Speaker 2: and that's the worst spot you can be in in boxing. 1196 00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:37,600 Speaker 2: And I think it's bad for Rolei too, because he 1197 00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:40,200 Speaker 2: won a secondary world title in his biggest fight on 1198 00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:43,759 Speaker 2: his initial rise against Jackson Marinez in a lot of 1199 00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:46,000 Speaker 2: the similar manner where he got booed when he won 1200 00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:48,920 Speaker 2: the decision that nobody thought he deserved in the you know, 1201 00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:51,360 Speaker 2: in the aftermath he's talking to the microphone aggressively and 1202 00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:54,800 Speaker 2: people didn't like that. Well, now you've got another sort 1203 00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:57,440 Speaker 2: of breakthrough win to win a real world title at 1204 00:56:57,440 --> 00:57:02,040 Speaker 2: one hundred and forty pounds, when again, at worst it 1205 00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:06,080 Speaker 2: was inept but it screams other things. This is where 1206 00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:10,080 Speaker 2: Nevada needs a backbone, because Tony Weeks should have stood 1207 00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:12,759 Speaker 2: up and was interviewed afterwards, but as Jim Gray indicated, 1208 00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:15,680 Speaker 2: the Nevada State Athletic Commission would not allow him to talk, 1209 00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:19,200 Speaker 2: and Weeks specifically said I won't talk. Whether that was 1210 00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:24,640 Speaker 2: in direct instruction from Nevada or not, it's gutless and 1211 00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:27,200 Speaker 2: people always say, BC Luke, how do we fix these 1212 00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:32,520 Speaker 2: obvious issues with judging and in some cases refereeing and boxing? 1213 00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:37,040 Speaker 2: I always say, first and foremost transparency would go a 1214 00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:41,120 Speaker 2: long way. Forcing the head of the Nevada Athletic Commission 1215 00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:44,440 Speaker 2: or whoever's the on site leader at the moment, both 1216 00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:47,600 Speaker 2: him and the officials to address the media afterwards. If 1217 00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:50,000 Speaker 2: you don't want to get interviewed directly in the ring afterwards, 1218 00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:52,880 Speaker 2: I don't know. As a rules against it, I don't know, 1219 00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:54,960 Speaker 2: but you're not even willing to show up at the 1220 00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:58,840 Speaker 2: press conference afterwards and give your take. Either come clean 1221 00:57:58,880 --> 00:58:01,000 Speaker 2: and say this is why I ruled it this way. 1222 00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:03,440 Speaker 2: You can disagree if you want, or if you're the 1223 00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:06,680 Speaker 2: Nevada Commission, take the half hour and look over the 1224 00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:09,360 Speaker 2: situation and then come clean afterwards and say, you know what, 1225 00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:13,320 Speaker 2: he may have made the wrong call. Will investigate it? Instead? 1226 00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:17,440 Speaker 2: They say nothing, So what does every boxing fan then do? 1227 00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:21,080 Speaker 2: Another black eye to our sport? Rollie's the protected star. 1228 00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:23,400 Speaker 2: All this stuff that may or may not be true 1229 00:58:24,080 --> 00:58:26,560 Speaker 2: either way, it's all bullshit and it's not great. It's 1230 00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:28,800 Speaker 2: a horrible look for what we do here, for the 1231 00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:31,200 Speaker 2: time we put into the sport. We love to see 1232 00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:34,040 Speaker 2: a guy like Barossa, who did nothing but resurrect his 1233 00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:36,880 Speaker 2: career on a three fight win streak, and hang around 1234 00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:38,880 Speaker 2: and one guy got yanked from the cart and he 1235 00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:41,440 Speaker 2: finally gets his moment, and you know what, he fought 1236 00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:44,040 Speaker 2: his ass off, And this is the shit we have 1237 00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:49,520 Speaker 2: to deal with afterwards. Look, what do you say? It's bullshit? 1238 00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:54,520 Speaker 2: But the fact that Nevada, which puts the officials in place, 1239 00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:59,320 Speaker 2: which sanctions the event, is not willing to even talk 1240 00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:04,240 Speaker 2: about it in a upfront capacity afterwards shows me that 1241 00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:07,840 Speaker 2: they don't fucking care, all right. And then anyone that 1242 00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:11,680 Speaker 2: wants to say obvious corruption, what excuse are you gonna 1243 00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:14,360 Speaker 2: argue back at them? Now? I won't even talk about this. 1244 00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:16,919 Speaker 2: You know? Did you hear Marol Ronello on the call, Luke? 1245 00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:20,360 Speaker 2: He almost couldn't hold it inside. He was almost doing 1246 00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:23,400 Speaker 2: one of those Teddy atlas like I've had enough moments, 1247 00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:26,520 Speaker 2: because we should have enough. We know what these guys 1248 00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:29,200 Speaker 2: put in to work hard to get to this point. 1249 00:59:29,480 --> 00:59:32,160 Speaker 2: We know how much one winner loss changes their pay 1250 00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:34,920 Speaker 2: scale and their future. We know for a guy who's 1251 00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:38,240 Speaker 2: forty years old fighting for a full world title, and 1252 00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:40,760 Speaker 2: who knows. If he gets stopped by Rolli in the 1253 00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:44,560 Speaker 2: final three rounds, who knows what happens. The point is 1254 00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:48,240 Speaker 2: we need something built in to prevent this from happening, 1255 00:59:48,480 --> 00:59:51,200 Speaker 2: because if it was just the stoppage again, it would 1256 00:59:51,200 --> 00:59:54,200 Speaker 2: be egregious. But Luke, back me up on this. That 1257 00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:58,280 Speaker 2: knockdown is actually almost a worse call considering where Weeks 1258 00:59:58,320 --> 01:00:01,000 Speaker 2: was standing. I mean, this is just shit and it 1259 01:00:01,320 --> 01:00:03,560 Speaker 2: couldn't have happened to a better guy in Tony Weeks, 1260 01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:06,480 Speaker 2: who I love. I've interviewed him before. He's a legend 1261 01:00:06,520 --> 01:00:09,160 Speaker 2: in this game. But everyone that had a hand in 1262 01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:10,920 Speaker 2: this looks awful coming out of it. 1263 01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:14,120 Speaker 1: On the commission side, no doubt about it. I want 1264 01:00:14,120 --> 01:00:15,720 Speaker 1: to I want to take a step back and say, 1265 01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:17,920 Speaker 1: like if for folks who've never looked into it, like 1266 01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:20,520 Speaker 1: where do athletic commissions come from? Like why do they exist? 1267 01:00:20,560 --> 01:00:23,360 Speaker 1: Because they haven't always existed. I mean a lot of cases, 1268 01:00:23,360 --> 01:00:25,560 Speaker 1: it came around the early part of the twentieth century, 1269 01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:27,600 Speaker 1: early to mid part of the twentieth century for Mma, 1270 01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:30,280 Speaker 1: even part of the twenty first century. They some of 1271 01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:33,400 Speaker 1: these didn't get extended there, but they started happening because 1272 01:00:33,600 --> 01:00:37,120 Speaker 1: the state wanted to protect boxing a little bit, right, 1273 01:00:37,160 --> 01:00:39,120 Speaker 1: so they would make promoters put down some of the 1274 01:00:39,120 --> 01:00:42,000 Speaker 1: money up front, they would look at the fight cards 1275 01:00:42,040 --> 01:00:45,280 Speaker 1: to make sure that the matches were relatively even. They 1276 01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:49,000 Speaker 1: would license everyone, cornermen fighters, you know, you get the idea. 1277 01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:52,240 Speaker 1: They kind of just put some basic protections in place 1278 01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:54,680 Speaker 1: to make sure that promoters had the money that they 1279 01:00:54,680 --> 01:00:56,680 Speaker 1: said they would and they're putting on fights at least 1280 01:00:56,760 --> 01:01:00,440 Speaker 1: reasonably fair in process. So like, it's the part of 1281 01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:03,960 Speaker 1: the government getting involved and also is betting related as well, 1282 01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:06,120 Speaker 1: but it's part of the government getting involved to protect 1283 01:01:06,120 --> 01:01:08,880 Speaker 1: the interests of the sport and then the sports athletes. 1284 01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:14,000 Speaker 1: What Nevada did on Saturday night is absolutely spit in 1285 01:01:14,040 --> 01:01:17,360 Speaker 1: the face of that tradition. Let's be very clear about this. 1286 01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:20,680 Speaker 1: Nevada's Athletic Commission is one of the very worst that exists, 1287 01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:24,080 Speaker 1: in part because they get so much volume by virtual 1288 01:01:24,080 --> 01:01:28,360 Speaker 1: of the geography that they end up making a series 1289 01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:31,120 Speaker 1: of bad calls about bad in bad procedure because they 1290 01:01:31,120 --> 01:01:35,000 Speaker 1: have no real internal mechanism for self improvement, they have 1291 01:01:35,040 --> 01:01:38,680 Speaker 1: no real drive for it. It's this sclerotic, bureaucratic institution 1292 01:01:38,760 --> 01:01:41,240 Speaker 1: that is utterly protected by the state, so they don't 1293 01:01:41,240 --> 01:01:44,040 Speaker 1: really do law very much to improve it. And I think, 1294 01:01:44,120 --> 01:01:46,040 Speaker 1: more to the point, let's just also state the fact 1295 01:01:46,160 --> 01:01:49,680 Speaker 1: just as they are. They stole from Ismael Buoso on 1296 01:01:49,720 --> 01:01:54,000 Speaker 1: Saturday night. Boso is forty years old. Okay, twenty years ago. 1297 01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:57,640 Speaker 1: When I was in college, Venezuela was the richest country 1298 01:01:57,640 --> 01:02:00,439 Speaker 1: in South America. Today it is a calamity and even 1299 01:02:00,440 --> 01:02:03,360 Speaker 1: when it was doing well. Does but also look to 1300 01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:05,520 Speaker 1: you folks out there, like the kind of guy who 1301 01:02:05,560 --> 01:02:08,320 Speaker 1: was living high off the hog people were noting when 1302 01:02:08,360 --> 01:02:11,760 Speaker 1: the stoppage first happened, he didn't really complain. Guys, this 1303 01:02:11,920 --> 01:02:15,600 Speaker 1: is a humble man, right, This is not a guy 1304 01:02:15,640 --> 01:02:20,320 Speaker 1: whoever had shit handed to him, whoever got lucky once 1305 01:02:20,920 --> 01:02:25,320 Speaker 1: in this life. He is used to the world fucking 1306 01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:28,920 Speaker 1: him over. That's why he didn't complain. Because when they 1307 01:02:28,920 --> 01:02:31,600 Speaker 1: finally stuck a microphone in his face and Jim Gray 1308 01:02:31,600 --> 01:02:34,760 Speaker 1: interviewed him, he said it was an injustice. He couldn't 1309 01:02:34,760 --> 01:02:40,200 Speaker 1: believe it, and nobody watching could. They didn't just take 1310 01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:43,200 Speaker 1: from a guy. They took from a guy that the 1311 01:02:43,280 --> 01:02:46,640 Speaker 1: world has been taking from basically his entire life. Do 1312 01:02:46,720 --> 01:02:49,680 Speaker 1: you think any of the big matches he's had, he's 1313 01:02:49,680 --> 01:02:53,240 Speaker 1: ever gotten paid sick amounts of cash. This was the 1314 01:02:53,280 --> 01:02:56,240 Speaker 1: opportunity to make the cash, or at least turn this 1315 01:02:56,280 --> 01:02:58,760 Speaker 1: opportunity into a future one, to make the cash right 1316 01:02:58,800 --> 01:03:02,160 Speaker 1: to get a world title that he had earned four 1317 01:03:02,360 --> 01:03:05,920 Speaker 1: years ago. Four years ago. Basically, it earned it. He 1318 01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:09,880 Speaker 1: finally gets it, and they took that from him. I 1319 01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:13,440 Speaker 1: want to make clear as best I can about this. 1320 01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:17,000 Speaker 1: This is an institution that is supposed to be protecting 1321 01:03:17,080 --> 01:03:22,600 Speaker 1: guys just like this, and they fucking stole from him, 1322 01:03:23,040 --> 01:03:26,720 Speaker 1: and then to not even have the goddamn professional courtesy 1323 01:03:27,120 --> 01:03:30,280 Speaker 1: or courage, to your point, BC to say something about it, because, 1324 01:03:30,280 --> 01:03:33,120 Speaker 1: by the way, I've been to press conferences in Las 1325 01:03:33,200 --> 01:03:36,840 Speaker 1: Vegas after fights where the Commission is all too happy 1326 01:03:36,880 --> 01:03:40,200 Speaker 1: to talk about some new bullshit initiative they've done, or 1327 01:03:40,600 --> 01:03:43,600 Speaker 1: some kind of self congratulation that they want the media 1328 01:03:43,640 --> 01:03:46,240 Speaker 1: to know about. They'll do that. I've seen them do it. 1329 01:03:46,360 --> 01:03:48,840 Speaker 1: I've watched them do it. I've been at the press 1330 01:03:48,840 --> 01:03:51,640 Speaker 1: conferences when it happened. So of course they can talk 1331 01:03:51,680 --> 01:03:53,760 Speaker 1: to the media when they want to. Of course they 1332 01:03:53,760 --> 01:03:56,480 Speaker 1: can say things about what they're doing if they want to. 1333 01:03:56,800 --> 01:04:00,120 Speaker 1: They just chose to circle the wagon and it's fuck you. 1334 01:04:00,560 --> 01:04:03,560 Speaker 1: We're up here, you're down there. We'll go to the 1335 01:04:03,560 --> 01:04:06,680 Speaker 1: fights next week and everyone's gonna move on. Dude. They 1336 01:04:06,880 --> 01:04:11,560 Speaker 1: took from a guy that's never had anything, and it 1337 01:04:11,640 --> 01:04:14,640 Speaker 1: breaks my heart to see this man. They treated him 1338 01:04:15,240 --> 01:04:20,280 Speaker 1: like dirt. He is owed, at a bare minimum, a rematch. 1339 01:04:20,360 --> 01:04:22,760 Speaker 1: He is owed an apology from Tony Weeks. He has 1340 01:04:22,800 --> 01:04:25,800 Speaker 1: owed an apology from that commission, and that commission, which 1341 01:04:25,840 --> 01:04:29,000 Speaker 1: they will not do, has some serious reflecting to do 1342 01:04:29,120 --> 01:04:32,640 Speaker 1: about the gear ontocracy that they're forcing through the referees 1343 01:04:32,960 --> 01:04:34,720 Speaker 1: onto the world. Be see. You know, you think I 1344 01:04:34,760 --> 01:04:37,720 Speaker 1: get ageis about this, but we do have data from 1345 01:04:37,800 --> 01:04:42,080 Speaker 1: other sports leagues that show the longest tenured officiating crews 1346 01:04:42,160 --> 01:04:44,440 Speaker 1: are not the best ones. Actually, it's the ones who 1347 01:04:44,440 --> 01:04:47,360 Speaker 1: are about ten to fifteen years into experience. This gentleman 1348 01:04:47,480 --> 01:04:49,960 Speaker 1: is far past it. And I'm sorry you turn in 1349 01:04:50,120 --> 01:04:53,280 Speaker 1: a performance like he turned in on Saturday night. It 1350 01:04:53,400 --> 01:04:56,560 Speaker 1: is time out for you at a bare minimum, if 1351 01:04:56,680 --> 01:04:59,440 Speaker 1: not losing your ability to work in this industry. They 1352 01:04:59,520 --> 01:05:05,280 Speaker 1: fucking stole this guy's professional career from him, and all 1353 01:05:05,320 --> 01:05:08,280 Speaker 1: that will happen is bad media to fuck them. 1354 01:05:08,640 --> 01:05:10,640 Speaker 2: They is still his whole career. Hopefully he gets to 1355 01:05:10,920 --> 01:05:12,920 Speaker 2: this was this was this was the spot that was 1356 01:05:12,920 --> 01:05:13,600 Speaker 2: supposed to make. 1357 01:05:13,520 --> 01:05:14,200 Speaker 1: It all worth it. 1358 01:05:14,240 --> 01:05:16,919 Speaker 2: I get it, would I get it? I would also 1359 01:05:17,040 --> 01:05:20,280 Speaker 2: like most people on Twitter to apologize to Broso for 1360 01:05:20,320 --> 01:05:22,840 Speaker 2: commenting how he looks seventy five throughout the building. 1361 01:05:22,880 --> 01:05:28,000 Speaker 1: Okay, I know I look old at forty three at seventy. 1362 01:05:28,080 --> 01:05:29,360 Speaker 1: Let's just be real, right, Let's. 1363 01:05:29,240 --> 01:05:33,680 Speaker 2: Let's look at how how how Nevada has handled big 1364 01:05:33,720 --> 01:05:36,800 Speaker 2: ticket issues in modern history. You remember C J. Ross Luke, 1365 01:05:36,920 --> 01:05:39,240 Speaker 2: she scored She was one of the judges that scored 1366 01:05:39,280 --> 01:05:42,920 Speaker 2: Bradley Pakiao one for Bradley, which brought her under a 1367 01:05:42,920 --> 01:05:46,280 Speaker 2: certain spotlight. And then, of course, in Canelo versus Mayweather 1368 01:05:46,360 --> 01:05:49,920 Speaker 2: twenty thirteen the following year, she scored that fight six 1369 01:05:50,040 --> 01:05:52,920 Speaker 2: rounds to six and in a fight that most people 1370 01:05:52,960 --> 01:05:55,840 Speaker 2: had twelve zero or eleven to one for Floyd. So 1371 01:05:55,960 --> 01:05:58,000 Speaker 2: what did they do? They forced her to retire to 1372 01:05:58,040 --> 01:06:00,840 Speaker 2: be fair. But then you had to Adelaide Bird, who 1373 01:06:00,840 --> 01:06:03,960 Speaker 2: scored the first Canelo versus Triple G fight in twenty 1374 01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:07,920 Speaker 2: seventeen absurdly wide in the favor of Canelo, which went 1375 01:06:07,960 --> 01:06:10,439 Speaker 2: against the grain and Luke, that was the last time 1376 01:06:10,480 --> 01:06:13,840 Speaker 2: I've seen Nevada take accountability. At the press conference afterwards, 1377 01:06:13,920 --> 01:06:17,680 Speaker 2: then acting head Bob Bennett did talk with the media. 1378 01:06:17,760 --> 01:06:19,800 Speaker 2: I think the problem, it's not a problem, but the 1379 01:06:19,840 --> 01:06:22,640 Speaker 2: problem for them was the media was almost heckling him 1380 01:06:22,640 --> 01:06:24,840 Speaker 2: in response and the way they asked questions, which was 1381 01:06:25,040 --> 01:06:27,160 Speaker 2: good to see the boxing media get aggressive and say 1382 01:06:27,200 --> 01:06:29,440 Speaker 2: what is going to happen? What are you going to 1383 01:06:29,520 --> 01:06:31,760 Speaker 2: do to prevent this? And he said, look, Adelaide's a 1384 01:06:31,760 --> 01:06:34,440 Speaker 2: great judge. She had an off night, you know whatever. 1385 01:06:34,480 --> 01:06:36,240 Speaker 2: I don't know if they went through classes or whatever, 1386 01:06:36,280 --> 01:06:38,600 Speaker 2: but she was back on the scene. Luke in Mman 1387 01:06:38,680 --> 01:06:42,240 Speaker 2: boxing like overnight. Tony Weeks we know also is a 1388 01:06:42,240 --> 01:06:44,720 Speaker 2: big time MMA judge in Las Vegas. So you know, 1389 01:06:44,760 --> 01:06:47,880 Speaker 2: I hate making this about Weeks because he was so great, 1390 01:06:48,520 --> 01:06:50,640 Speaker 2: but he is sixty six and they do roll out 1391 01:06:50,640 --> 01:06:53,040 Speaker 2: the same guys. I just think, look, if you add 1392 01:06:53,080 --> 01:06:55,880 Speaker 2: accountability to the mix, not just accountability with the head 1393 01:06:56,160 --> 01:06:59,080 Speaker 2: of the Nevada Commission when things like this happen, when 1394 01:06:59,160 --> 01:07:00,720 Speaker 2: Jim Gray is saying, look, I need to talk to 1395 01:07:00,760 --> 01:07:04,000 Speaker 2: somebody about this, because I think that's how you weed 1396 01:07:04,080 --> 01:07:07,640 Speaker 2: out who's actually good and who's actually not. I always 1397 01:07:07,680 --> 01:07:09,920 Speaker 2: bring up that failed perfect game bid. Do you remember 1398 01:07:09,960 --> 01:07:13,520 Speaker 2: that Armando Galarrago of the Tigers was almost throwing a 1399 01:07:13,520 --> 01:07:15,360 Speaker 2: perfect game and there was a playoff first base? Luke, 1400 01:07:15,400 --> 01:07:16,040 Speaker 2: do you remember this. 1401 01:07:15,960 --> 01:07:17,840 Speaker 1: But ten twelve years ago? Yep? 1402 01:07:18,240 --> 01:07:19,640 Speaker 2: The umpire blew the call. 1403 01:07:20,040 --> 01:07:20,320 Speaker 1: Yep. 1404 01:07:20,760 --> 01:07:22,920 Speaker 2: And in the locker room afterwards, the media is interviewing 1405 01:07:23,000 --> 01:07:25,560 Speaker 2: him and he's crying and he's saying, I screwed up. 1406 01:07:25,640 --> 01:07:27,240 Speaker 2: I saw the tape. I got it wrong. Like it 1407 01:07:27,280 --> 01:07:32,200 Speaker 2: was this great moment of vulnerability, I personally believe. And 1408 01:07:32,240 --> 01:07:34,120 Speaker 2: I'm also friends with a couple judges. We know this 1409 01:07:34,160 --> 01:07:36,320 Speaker 2: on the boxing side, and there are many fights that 1410 01:07:36,360 --> 01:07:39,760 Speaker 2: they score that Twitter's killing them. And I talk to 1411 01:07:39,760 --> 01:07:42,720 Speaker 2: them afterwards and they give me a detailed breakdown of 1412 01:07:42,760 --> 01:07:44,440 Speaker 2: what they saw. And you know what I often do, 1413 01:07:44,520 --> 01:07:46,720 Speaker 2: I go, actually, you did have the best seat in 1414 01:07:46,760 --> 01:07:49,960 Speaker 2: the house. Maybe you're right, maybe we were misinterpreting certain 1415 01:07:49,960 --> 01:07:52,200 Speaker 2: things watching from home, or maybe this is just a 1416 01:07:52,240 --> 01:07:55,520 Speaker 2: subjective sport. But my point was I took the time 1417 01:07:55,520 --> 01:07:57,280 Speaker 2: to reach out to friends of mine and get their 1418 01:07:57,280 --> 01:08:01,160 Speaker 2: detailed reaction. This is a high profile, file stressful job, 1419 01:08:01,520 --> 01:08:05,000 Speaker 2: but I personally believe if those involved were forced to 1420 01:08:05,160 --> 01:08:07,959 Speaker 2: face the music and give a response, it would either 1421 01:08:08,520 --> 01:08:11,400 Speaker 2: repair their name and moments that are not robberies, they 1422 01:08:11,440 --> 01:08:15,120 Speaker 2: just maybe differences of opinion, or slowly force out the 1423 01:08:15,120 --> 01:08:18,080 Speaker 2: ones who either shouldn't be there at all or are 1424 01:08:18,160 --> 01:08:21,840 Speaker 2: past their best because with so much money at stake 1425 01:08:21,920 --> 01:08:25,360 Speaker 2: for these fighters' futures and which, and with the obvious 1426 01:08:25,520 --> 01:08:29,080 Speaker 2: dangerous realities of even competing in this game, to fuck 1427 01:08:29,120 --> 01:08:31,680 Speaker 2: around with a clown show. That is the way this 1428 01:08:31,920 --> 01:08:35,400 Speaker 2: Athletic Commission acts in the face of responses like this, 1429 01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:38,760 Speaker 2: It does no justice to the fighters involved. So how 1430 01:08:38,760 --> 01:08:41,479 Speaker 2: do we fix this? Luke? You know accountability would go 1431 01:08:41,520 --> 01:08:43,839 Speaker 2: a long way, But how do we fix this an 1432 01:08:43,880 --> 01:08:47,720 Speaker 2: actual situation? Is it a rematches? Does a rematch where 1433 01:08:47,720 --> 01:08:50,639 Speaker 2: Brossa gets paid again? Does that how you make sense? 1434 01:08:50,800 --> 01:08:53,680 Speaker 2: Or or do you make the title vacant? I don't 1435 01:08:53,680 --> 01:08:55,080 Speaker 2: think you can make the title. I don't think you 1436 01:08:55,120 --> 01:08:57,800 Speaker 2: can change the outcome because the referee's job is to 1437 01:08:57,800 --> 01:08:59,800 Speaker 2: make the call, and he made the call. The question 1438 01:08:59,880 --> 01:09:01,800 Speaker 2: is how do you fix this for everybody in the future. 1439 01:09:01,800 --> 01:09:03,120 Speaker 2: That's the why the letter of the law. 1440 01:09:03,120 --> 01:09:05,320 Speaker 1: We should also point out that the Commission has rules 1441 01:09:05,360 --> 01:09:08,839 Speaker 1: that basic that basically make it impossible to you can't 1442 01:09:09,040 --> 01:09:13,599 Speaker 1: challenge a call by arguing they did a bad job. 1443 01:09:13,640 --> 01:09:16,559 Speaker 1: There are other mechanisms in place, but they're fairly how 1444 01:09:16,600 --> 01:09:21,080 Speaker 1: I explain, they're fairly limited in scope, and it's just 1445 01:09:21,120 --> 01:09:22,600 Speaker 1: about whether it was on the up and up. But 1446 01:09:22,640 --> 01:09:24,240 Speaker 1: like if you're just saying, well, I'll think it's a 1447 01:09:24,240 --> 01:09:27,200 Speaker 1: bad call. The state has and the Nevada is not 1448 01:09:27,240 --> 01:09:28,760 Speaker 1: alone in this, but Nevada is one of the worst 1449 01:09:28,760 --> 01:09:31,680 Speaker 1: defenders just given the volume of incidents that happened in 1450 01:09:31,680 --> 01:09:34,160 Speaker 1: their state where they just you can't go in and 1451 01:09:34,160 --> 01:09:35,720 Speaker 1: be like, he did a bad thing. I mean, here's 1452 01:09:35,720 --> 01:09:37,800 Speaker 1: the reality. We'll talk about what should happen first, but 1453 01:09:37,800 --> 01:09:39,640 Speaker 1: I just want to say one thing. The Association of 1454 01:09:39,680 --> 01:09:42,320 Speaker 1: Boxing Commissions is doing a better job of incorporating this 1455 01:09:42,800 --> 01:09:46,320 Speaker 1: athletes in their UH, in their legislative process and an 1456 01:09:46,360 --> 01:09:48,840 Speaker 1: advisory capacity. But for all the fighters out there in 1457 01:09:48,880 --> 01:09:51,840 Speaker 1: the world, you should know what you're up against here. 1458 01:09:51,880 --> 01:09:55,519 Speaker 1: You're not just up against shady promoters at times in boxing, 1459 01:09:55,760 --> 01:09:59,479 Speaker 1: or you know some sponsor who screwed j over or 1460 01:09:59,520 --> 01:10:02,160 Speaker 1: fans who light you up in your DMS or whatever. 1461 01:10:02,560 --> 01:10:05,840 Speaker 1: You're up against the regulatory regime that is much more 1462 01:10:05,880 --> 01:10:09,200 Speaker 1: interested in their self preservation than yours. I hope every 1463 01:10:09,240 --> 01:10:12,519 Speaker 1: fighter who ever gets licensed understands that the fighters need 1464 01:10:12,560 --> 01:10:17,160 Speaker 1: to have some kind of way to challenge not just 1465 01:10:17,200 --> 01:10:22,520 Speaker 1: the institutional authority of these commissions, but in particular bad decisions, 1466 01:10:22,640 --> 01:10:25,920 Speaker 1: bad calls by referees. I've seen some commissioners talking online. 1467 01:10:25,920 --> 01:10:28,280 Speaker 1: The one from Colorado made a point where there should 1468 01:10:28,280 --> 01:10:30,240 Speaker 1: be some kind of mechanism where something bad happens to 1469 01:10:30,240 --> 01:10:34,080 Speaker 1: you in Arizona, California's commission has the capacity to review it, right, 1470 01:10:34,120 --> 01:10:37,360 Speaker 1: So it's this pure review between the states. The reality 1471 01:10:37,479 --> 01:10:43,120 Speaker 1: is Nevada has the rules designed to make it impossible 1472 01:10:43,160 --> 01:10:46,320 Speaker 1: for anyone to do anything other than bad publicity. That 1473 01:10:46,439 --> 01:10:48,840 Speaker 1: is really the only way they ever respond to anything 1474 01:10:48,920 --> 01:10:51,320 Speaker 1: is bad publicity. Fighters need to see at the table 1475 01:10:51,320 --> 01:10:53,320 Speaker 1: for the Association of Boxing Commissions, and they need to 1476 01:10:53,320 --> 01:10:55,680 Speaker 1: see at the table to various other state commissions to 1477 01:10:55,760 --> 01:10:59,719 Speaker 1: have some ability to check bad decisions, bad rules, bad enforcement, 1478 01:10:59,760 --> 01:11:00,599 Speaker 1: all of the above. 1479 01:11:00,800 --> 01:11:01,960 Speaker 2: Okay, you know it would be nice too. 1480 01:11:02,080 --> 01:11:02,240 Speaker 1: Look. 1481 01:11:02,280 --> 01:11:04,400 Speaker 2: I reference a fight in twenty twelve that happened in 1482 01:11:04,400 --> 01:11:07,200 Speaker 2: Atlantic City when Arislandi Laura lost the decision to Paul 1483 01:11:07,240 --> 01:11:09,960 Speaker 2: Williams that to everybody watching, just didn't make any sense. 1484 01:11:10,600 --> 01:11:13,640 Speaker 2: The State of New Jersey suspended all three judges and 1485 01:11:13,680 --> 01:11:15,520 Speaker 2: then did a detailed investigation. 1486 01:11:15,680 --> 01:11:18,240 Speaker 1: They sure did. Yep, Why if. 1487 01:11:18,080 --> 01:11:20,559 Speaker 2: You're Nevada, why would you not try to fan the 1488 01:11:20,600 --> 01:11:23,000 Speaker 2: flames and come out and be like, look, we understand 1489 01:11:23,000 --> 01:11:25,519 Speaker 2: the controversy. We're gonna, you know, look deeper into this. 1490 01:11:25,640 --> 01:11:28,880 Speaker 2: We're gonna, you know, put Tony on you know, a 1491 01:11:28,920 --> 01:11:32,479 Speaker 2: temporary ban for now until we educate and go through this. 1492 01:11:32,840 --> 01:11:36,040 Speaker 2: But instead radio silence. So look, let's they're not. 1493 01:11:37,920 --> 01:11:42,040 Speaker 1: They're not watchdogs. That's that's not how they see themselves. 1494 01:11:42,040 --> 01:11:44,920 Speaker 1: They see themselves as this is a way to make 1495 01:11:44,960 --> 01:11:47,040 Speaker 1: a name in Las Vegas. This is a way to 1496 01:11:47,080 --> 01:11:49,720 Speaker 1: make connections in Las Vegas. This is a way to 1497 01:11:49,840 --> 01:11:52,840 Speaker 1: hold status within the government in the state. This is 1498 01:11:52,880 --> 01:11:55,400 Speaker 1: a way to be seen in some kind of way 1499 01:11:55,400 --> 01:11:58,720 Speaker 1: where they can add something to their LinkedIn resume. None 1500 01:11:58,800 --> 01:12:02,280 Speaker 1: of those people can doubly claim what they're interested in 1501 01:12:02,360 --> 01:12:05,479 Speaker 1: doing is being a protective watchdog for the interests of 1502 01:12:05,520 --> 01:12:07,840 Speaker 1: sport within the state of Nevada. Get the fuck out 1503 01:12:07,880 --> 01:12:10,439 Speaker 1: of here. No one believes that. No one trusts them. 1504 01:12:10,600 --> 01:12:12,800 Speaker 1: None of that is true. And so as long as 1505 01:12:12,840 --> 01:12:14,760 Speaker 1: that's the way in which they're able to construct their 1506 01:12:14,800 --> 01:12:19,080 Speaker 1: own business, I mean, this is they're just gonna keep 1507 01:12:19,240 --> 01:12:25,160 Speaker 1: absolutely treating guys like Ismail Bottleso like absolute fucking dirt. 1508 01:12:25,560 --> 01:12:28,439 Speaker 1: And it is it is. It kills me that this happened. 1509 01:12:28,680 --> 01:12:31,639 Speaker 1: The most vulnerable kind of guy, the one who has 1510 01:12:31,960 --> 01:12:35,760 Speaker 1: never never gotten lucky, finally had his moment and they 1511 01:12:35,840 --> 01:12:38,599 Speaker 1: fucking took it from him with no apology. Right, what 1512 01:12:38,640 --> 01:12:40,720 Speaker 1: does that tell you about their priorities? 1513 01:12:41,120 --> 01:12:43,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, their priorities are bullshit. And people say, well, what, 1514 01:12:43,360 --> 01:12:46,080 Speaker 2: let's not go to Las Vegas anymore? Well, look Las Vegas, Yeah, 1515 01:12:46,120 --> 01:12:48,920 Speaker 2: good luck. They pay the highest sight fees to bring 1516 01:12:49,000 --> 01:12:51,040 Speaker 2: fights there. They allow you to jack up the ticket 1517 01:12:51,080 --> 01:12:53,799 Speaker 2: prices to because it's high rollers mostly. I mean, that's 1518 01:12:53,960 --> 01:12:57,680 Speaker 2: it's the system. So Looke Rolie seemed to regress a 1519 01:12:57,680 --> 01:12:59,519 Speaker 2: bit certainly in this fight. He had a lot of 1520 01:12:59,520 --> 01:13:04,120 Speaker 2: shit on him too, with the awkwardness of Barroso, even 1521 01:13:04,160 --> 01:13:05,680 Speaker 2: though he was able to kind of, you know, he 1522 01:13:05,760 --> 01:13:07,479 Speaker 2: was rallying a bit for sure at the time of 1523 01:13:07,520 --> 01:13:09,600 Speaker 2: the stoppage, in terms of the big punches he was 1524 01:13:09,680 --> 01:13:12,960 Speaker 2: landing this Barroso was a problem, and maybe it's just 1525 01:13:13,000 --> 01:13:14,920 Speaker 2: because he's a South Paul with an awkward style and 1526 01:13:14,960 --> 01:13:18,840 Speaker 2: he had enough power to discipline Roly. But this was 1527 01:13:18,920 --> 01:13:21,960 Speaker 2: not a step forward in an advancement on the idea 1528 01:13:22,080 --> 01:13:25,040 Speaker 2: of like is Roly ready to build toward Ryan Garcia 1529 01:13:25,120 --> 01:13:27,840 Speaker 2: or anything like that. Really, I think the best way 1530 01:13:27,840 --> 01:13:30,000 Speaker 2: to answer this is to run back an immediate rematch. 1531 01:13:30,040 --> 01:13:32,599 Speaker 2: But this this does not help his stock at all. 1532 01:13:32,640 --> 01:13:35,559 Speaker 2: But I want to tie the Roly part into the 1533 01:13:35,600 --> 01:13:38,879 Speaker 2: hard question. Is this an eptitude, Luke? Or is this corruption? 1534 01:13:39,320 --> 01:13:42,240 Speaker 2: Is this the let's give it to the money fighter 1535 01:13:42,240 --> 01:13:44,280 Speaker 2: because that's what we do in this sport? Or are 1536 01:13:44,320 --> 01:13:47,000 Speaker 2: you leaning just on what a shitty night for the 1537 01:13:47,040 --> 01:13:47,799 Speaker 2: Athletic Commission. 1538 01:13:48,320 --> 01:13:50,160 Speaker 1: Here here's what I would say to all these questions. 1539 01:13:50,320 --> 01:13:52,400 Speaker 1: To your point, I thought you what stated it? Well, like, 1540 01:13:52,800 --> 01:13:55,519 Speaker 1: this is what I mean ninety nine percent of the 1541 01:13:55,560 --> 01:13:58,080 Speaker 1: times when five fans complained about boxing, and for you know, 1542 01:13:58,160 --> 01:14:00,000 Speaker 1: for whatever reason, I'm always like, this is not really 1543 01:14:00,120 --> 01:14:03,000 Speaker 1: a good example of that. Yeah, this is a good 1544 01:14:03,040 --> 01:14:05,320 Speaker 1: example of that. This is exactly what you're talking. I 1545 01:14:05,320 --> 01:14:08,800 Speaker 1: think your point was well taken. Here's the reality. I 1546 01:14:08,840 --> 01:14:11,160 Speaker 1: don't know why he made that call. What I can 1547 01:14:11,160 --> 01:14:15,080 Speaker 1: say is it is so uniquely bad that what should 1548 01:14:15,080 --> 01:14:17,919 Speaker 1: happen with a commission that gives a fuck about fairness 1549 01:14:17,960 --> 01:14:21,840 Speaker 1: and justice to boxers that deserve protection. Would be an investigation, 1550 01:14:22,040 --> 01:14:25,400 Speaker 1: because do I have any evidence that there is any 1551 01:14:27,280 --> 01:14:29,680 Speaker 1: crime being committed here? Quite literally, no, of course I don't. 1552 01:14:29,720 --> 01:14:33,200 Speaker 1: Don't have shit. I have a really really really dubiously 1553 01:14:33,320 --> 01:14:36,559 Speaker 1: weird awful stoppage, but that by itself doesn't give me information. 1554 01:14:36,600 --> 01:14:39,240 Speaker 1: But a good commission would look into it, and maybe 1555 01:14:39,280 --> 01:14:40,880 Speaker 1: they exonerate him. Maybe he's like, yeah, he had an 1556 01:14:40,880 --> 01:14:43,439 Speaker 1: off night, dude, Maybe he did, Maybe he just had 1557 01:14:43,479 --> 01:14:47,320 Speaker 1: an off night. Well, I was just gonna say, you see, 1558 01:14:47,800 --> 01:14:50,240 Speaker 1: the only way to really answer that question is to 1559 01:14:50,280 --> 01:14:52,960 Speaker 1: have a due diligence process in place by the state 1560 01:14:53,040 --> 01:14:54,760 Speaker 1: regulatory authority, or at. 1561 01:14:54,720 --> 01:14:57,479 Speaker 2: Least a even if it's even if it's a pomp 1562 01:14:57,520 --> 01:15:01,479 Speaker 2: and circumstance fake public off give us the fucking pig 1563 01:15:01,640 --> 01:15:03,320 Speaker 2: fake public offering, right, you know what I mean? We 1564 01:15:03,360 --> 01:15:05,599 Speaker 2: always say that it's like, just come out and say something, 1565 01:15:05,600 --> 01:15:09,280 Speaker 2: But look, I like Tony Weeks, and that's not clouding 1566 01:15:09,320 --> 01:15:12,479 Speaker 2: my judgment here. But if it was just ineptitude is 1567 01:15:12,479 --> 01:15:15,439 Speaker 2: there a chance on the knockdown that the outside shoulder 1568 01:15:15,520 --> 01:15:18,680 Speaker 2: of roly was was blocking his view and that he 1569 01:15:18,840 --> 01:15:21,559 Speaker 2: saw the push as a punch because he was in 1570 01:15:21,760 --> 01:15:24,400 Speaker 2: wasn't in the best position? Is that possible, I'd say yes. 1571 01:15:24,400 --> 01:15:26,360 Speaker 1: Into a bit, dude, This whole idea of like, oh, 1572 01:15:26,439 --> 01:15:28,120 Speaker 1: well he saw it this way because he was in 1573 01:15:28,160 --> 01:15:32,040 Speaker 1: a dog shit position, right, That doesn't in any way 1574 01:15:32,080 --> 01:15:33,439 Speaker 1: justify the stoppage. Get into it. 1575 01:15:33,640 --> 01:15:37,040 Speaker 2: What I'm saying, So the stoppage I'm wondering is because look, 1576 01:15:37,040 --> 01:15:39,000 Speaker 2: when we watch it in slow motion, the only punch 1577 01:15:39,040 --> 01:15:41,559 Speaker 2: that landed was that push right hand of the face. Right. 1578 01:15:42,040 --> 01:15:45,080 Speaker 2: I'm wondering if in real time Weeks was blocked and 1579 01:15:45,080 --> 01:15:48,280 Speaker 2: he thought that was a punch that staggered Barroso, if 1580 01:15:48,320 --> 01:15:51,040 Speaker 2: you believe that punch staggered Barroso, is this enough for 1581 01:15:51,040 --> 01:15:51,720 Speaker 2: a stoppage here? 1582 01:15:52,080 --> 01:15:54,720 Speaker 1: No, and even Weeks is still at a good enough 1583 01:15:54,760 --> 01:15:56,759 Speaker 1: angle where he could see that that wasn't the case. 1584 01:15:57,120 --> 01:15:59,519 Speaker 2: All right, then my attempt to give him every benefit 1585 01:15:59,560 --> 01:16:01,639 Speaker 2: of the doubt has just been solved in this case. 1586 01:16:01,760 --> 01:16:03,960 Speaker 2: Then all right, No, you're right, you might be right. 1587 01:16:03,840 --> 01:16:08,320 Speaker 1: Might maybe dude, listen, maybe he has I'm just gonna 1588 01:16:08,360 --> 01:16:10,599 Speaker 1: I'm going to be theoretical here. Again, I have no 1589 01:16:10,640 --> 01:16:14,000 Speaker 1: evidence of this whatsoever, which is why when people always like, oh, corruption, 1590 01:16:14,080 --> 01:16:16,000 Speaker 1: I'm like, you need evidence to make claims like that, 1591 01:16:16,040 --> 01:16:17,559 Speaker 1: and I don't have any claim. I don't have any 1592 01:16:17,600 --> 01:16:20,519 Speaker 1: evidence like that. Maybe he's having a hard time at home, 1593 01:16:20,560 --> 01:16:23,719 Speaker 1: maybe he's got health problems, maybe he's got financial problems, 1594 01:16:23,760 --> 01:16:26,000 Speaker 1: maybe he's got kid problems, maybe he's got life problems, 1595 01:16:26,040 --> 01:16:29,719 Speaker 1: and he's just not all there and he's making bad decisions. Again, dude, 1596 01:16:29,840 --> 01:16:32,679 Speaker 1: is it possible he just had a really bad night. Yes, 1597 01:16:32,720 --> 01:16:34,800 Speaker 1: of course it is. But we won't really know what 1598 01:16:34,840 --> 01:16:37,600 Speaker 1: the full answer is until somebody does the job with 1599 01:16:37,680 --> 01:16:39,280 Speaker 1: the teeth to do it of looking into it. And 1600 01:16:39,360 --> 01:16:41,320 Speaker 1: so because they're not gonna do that, they're just gonna 1601 01:16:41,360 --> 01:16:43,320 Speaker 1: leave it alone and he'll be back on the job 1602 01:16:43,360 --> 01:16:45,840 Speaker 1: doing whatever. We're just forced to kind of lament. I guess, 1603 01:16:45,920 --> 01:16:48,719 Speaker 1: I guess we can treat certain people like absolute shit 1604 01:16:48,840 --> 01:16:50,840 Speaker 1: by this commission, and that's just the way that it goes. 1605 01:16:50,920 --> 01:16:53,519 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just tired enough. I'm trying to talk myself 1606 01:16:53,560 --> 01:16:56,919 Speaker 2: into some belief that makes this all feel right, that 1607 01:16:56,920 --> 01:16:59,160 Speaker 2: that those pushes look like punches to him, but it's 1608 01:16:59,160 --> 01:17:01,160 Speaker 2: still all bullshit. And if you're looking for somebody with 1609 01:17:01,200 --> 01:17:03,519 Speaker 2: the teeth to do it, I welcome Yanni the Greek. 1610 01:17:03,520 --> 01:17:07,160 Speaker 2: But that's just me. But uh, you know, roly had 1611 01:17:07,160 --> 01:17:09,360 Speaker 2: a step back performance. It seems overall luke. 1612 01:17:09,400 --> 01:17:11,720 Speaker 1: But what's boxing was gonna say, and we'll move along 1613 01:17:11,720 --> 01:17:13,160 Speaker 1: because we still have to talk about Belatorio. What I 1614 01:17:13,240 --> 01:17:15,880 Speaker 1: was gonna say was BC, this shit didn't do Rolly 1615 01:17:15,960 --> 01:17:18,400 Speaker 1: any favors either. No, Like I know people say, oh, 1616 01:17:18,400 --> 01:17:21,560 Speaker 1: well they called the knockdown the pushdown a knockdown and 1617 01:17:21,560 --> 01:17:23,080 Speaker 1: then they got their early stoppage in that sense of 1618 01:17:23,080 --> 01:17:25,160 Speaker 1: doing him a favor. Yeah, but like, let's step back 1619 01:17:25,200 --> 01:17:28,200 Speaker 1: a little bit. Roly was losing that fight. Everyone knows 1620 01:17:28,200 --> 01:17:30,640 Speaker 1: that because of the judges, right, so now we know 1621 01:17:30,680 --> 01:17:32,720 Speaker 1: he was losing. It wasn't just people saying he was losing. 1622 01:17:32,800 --> 01:17:35,120 Speaker 1: We could prove he was losing. He did not look 1623 01:17:35,200 --> 01:17:37,479 Speaker 1: great to begin with, he got dropped in the third, 1624 01:17:37,800 --> 01:17:41,280 Speaker 1: then he gets basically gifted this title. Dude, if anything 1625 01:17:41,600 --> 01:17:45,439 Speaker 1: like roly Stock declined after this despite getting a world 1626 01:17:45,520 --> 01:17:50,439 Speaker 1: championship ultimately in the end, like, if anything, this hurt 1627 01:17:50,600 --> 01:17:53,320 Speaker 1: his I think I don't know if I hurt his 1628 01:17:53,400 --> 01:17:56,200 Speaker 1: promotional interest, which maybe in the end is the most important. 1629 01:17:56,439 --> 01:17:58,960 Speaker 1: But like Roly had a chance here, building off the 1630 01:17:59,000 --> 01:18:01,559 Speaker 1: tank performance, to be like, aha, you see, I can 1631 01:18:01,640 --> 01:18:04,840 Speaker 1: turn into something special. Dude, Kenneth Simms who had to 1632 01:18:04,840 --> 01:18:08,280 Speaker 1: fight uh baktir Akmanedov on the opener of that card, 1633 01:18:08,560 --> 01:18:11,280 Speaker 1: both of those guys would beat Roly, and no doubt 1634 01:18:11,280 --> 01:18:13,920 Speaker 1: in my mind, both of those guys would beat Roly. 1635 01:18:14,120 --> 01:18:16,440 Speaker 1: He took a bit of an l here in the end, ultimately. 1636 01:18:16,080 --> 01:18:19,040 Speaker 2: Two Corey's reminding me that in the post fight interview, 1637 01:18:19,120 --> 01:18:21,160 Speaker 2: Roly did say it was an early stoppage. So it's 1638 01:18:21,560 --> 01:18:24,240 Speaker 2: not He's not pretending to play along with it. He 1639 01:18:24,280 --> 01:18:25,679 Speaker 2: was being very honest afterwards. 1640 01:18:25,760 --> 01:18:28,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, in in the end, Roly invited the or 1641 01:18:28,520 --> 01:18:30,000 Speaker 1: he should he said he wanted to keep going. I 1642 01:18:30,000 --> 01:18:31,439 Speaker 1: wanted to keep going. He should have been What he 1643 01:18:31,479 --> 01:18:33,639 Speaker 1: should have said was he was totally fine. But okay, 1644 01:18:34,160 --> 01:18:35,559 Speaker 1: you see, the last thing I'll say is, I don't 1645 01:18:35,600 --> 01:18:37,200 Speaker 1: know if a rematch solves the problem. I don't know 1646 01:18:37,200 --> 01:18:38,599 Speaker 1: if there is a way to solve the problem. Because 1647 01:18:38,600 --> 01:18:40,639 Speaker 1: it was that night, It's gonna be hard to get 1648 01:18:40,680 --> 01:18:43,280 Speaker 1: back to that place. For but also, and I don't 1649 01:18:43,320 --> 01:18:44,400 Speaker 1: even know if they'll give him one. 1650 01:18:44,479 --> 01:18:47,200 Speaker 2: So maybe maybe we could get Barroso some Caldera lab 1651 01:18:47,240 --> 01:18:49,720 Speaker 2: samples Luke to try to just you know, try to 1652 01:18:50,240 --> 01:18:50,880 Speaker 2: fight the agent. 1653 01:18:51,080 --> 01:18:52,880 Speaker 1: I mean, can we can we give this guy a 1654 01:18:53,120 --> 01:18:57,759 Speaker 1: w somewhere? Yeah, all right, let's move on to Bellator 1655 01:18:57,840 --> 01:19:00,040 Speaker 1: if we can. BC also on Showtime. This was on 1656 01:19:00,080 --> 01:19:02,720 Speaker 1: Friday from the Acor Arena in Paris. Well, I gotta 1657 01:19:02,760 --> 01:19:06,760 Speaker 1: SABC these Bell Tour shows in Europe, man, they are 1658 01:19:07,320 --> 01:19:10,960 Speaker 1: they look fantastic. Not that the ones in US they're fine, certainly, 1659 01:19:11,000 --> 01:19:13,800 Speaker 1: but the ones in Europe look like these just enormously grant. 1660 01:19:13,840 --> 01:19:16,759 Speaker 1: I mean, other Temple events must be over there now, OKABC. 1661 01:19:16,960 --> 01:19:19,040 Speaker 1: But it was a bit of a passing of the 1662 01:19:19,040 --> 01:19:21,880 Speaker 1: torch moment. It seemed like to me, Fabian Edwards gets 1663 01:19:21,920 --> 01:19:25,320 Speaker 1: the unanimous decision win over Gaguard Massassi at the Belltour 1664 01:19:25,479 --> 01:19:28,360 Speaker 1: two ninety six main event. B See how much of 1665 01:19:28,400 --> 01:19:31,360 Speaker 1: the story should be Edwards looked good and had a 1666 01:19:31,400 --> 01:19:34,840 Speaker 1: phenomenal performance, versus how much of it should be that 1667 01:19:34,920 --> 01:19:37,240 Speaker 1: Msase finally really did look old. 1668 01:19:38,000 --> 01:19:39,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean it's a little bit of both, and 1669 01:19:39,960 --> 01:19:41,760 Speaker 2: it often is in this case, but I do want 1670 01:19:41,760 --> 01:19:44,000 Speaker 2: to eat the crow and say, like I overlooked Edwards 1671 01:19:44,040 --> 01:19:47,360 Speaker 2: coming out with this performance. Was it an older Was 1672 01:19:47,400 --> 01:19:50,400 Speaker 2: it an older gay Guard? Yes? Was the broadcast correct, 1673 01:19:50,439 --> 01:19:54,479 Speaker 2: I think in rightfully criticizing the fact that gay Guard 1674 01:19:54,520 --> 01:19:58,599 Speaker 2: had wrestling success in round two and then completely goes 1675 01:19:58,640 --> 01:20:00,519 Speaker 2: away from it for the rest of the He tries 1676 01:20:00,600 --> 01:20:03,599 Speaker 2: one more takedown down the stretch and he got stuffed. Yeah, 1677 01:20:03,720 --> 01:20:07,840 Speaker 2: I think strategically, especially that we've seen some of these 1678 01:20:07,880 --> 01:20:10,200 Speaker 2: fights out of Musase in this run where he relied 1679 01:20:10,200 --> 01:20:11,840 Speaker 2: on the wrestling and showed you that he may be 1680 01:20:11,880 --> 01:20:15,160 Speaker 2: able to sustain his career longer by using that in 1681 01:20:15,200 --> 01:20:18,320 Speaker 2: the right matchup. This potentially could have been that matchup. 1682 01:20:18,880 --> 01:20:21,479 Speaker 2: It didn't happen, but a lot of that was Edward's movement. 1683 01:20:21,720 --> 01:20:24,400 Speaker 2: His striking is poised like this was a very mature 1684 01:20:24,439 --> 01:20:27,040 Speaker 2: performance for a fighter who's starting to build a nice 1685 01:20:27,040 --> 01:20:29,479 Speaker 2: win streak. Here to get into contention, I mean, they 1686 01:20:29,479 --> 01:20:31,759 Speaker 2: put him in the cage afterwards with the current champion, 1687 01:20:31,840 --> 01:20:34,880 Speaker 2: Johnny Eblin. They already announced this for September and Dublin, 1688 01:20:35,000 --> 01:20:38,040 Speaker 2: so here we are. It's a good ass win for Edwards. 1689 01:20:38,080 --> 01:20:41,720 Speaker 2: You see the physicality there to take Musase down. He 1690 01:20:41,800 --> 01:20:44,120 Speaker 2: leveled up in a large way, and I was happy 1691 01:20:44,120 --> 01:20:46,080 Speaker 2: to see that, Luke, because I apparently have a history 1692 01:20:46,120 --> 01:20:49,760 Speaker 2: of underrating both brothers in big fights. So maybe it's 1693 01:20:49,760 --> 01:20:50,679 Speaker 2: about time I come. 1694 01:20:50,560 --> 01:20:52,800 Speaker 1: Around, right, Yeah, I have the same problem, so I 1695 01:20:53,120 --> 01:20:55,800 Speaker 1: also have to etcro in fact all my okay, bet my, 1696 01:20:56,800 --> 01:21:00,000 Speaker 1: I think my favorite pick so odds wise, before the contest, 1697 01:21:00,040 --> 01:21:02,400 Speaker 1: I think Ussac was the favorite to win, and I 1698 01:21:02,439 --> 01:21:04,960 Speaker 1: had picked him to do it totally wrong. You know, 1699 01:21:05,000 --> 01:21:07,960 Speaker 1: he looked this way, or I should say he looked 1700 01:21:07,960 --> 01:21:11,400 Speaker 1: a version of this way against Johnny Eblin. But Johnny 1701 01:21:11,439 --> 01:21:14,160 Speaker 1: Evelin is very good. Whether you guys appreciate that fact 1702 01:21:14,240 --> 01:21:16,080 Speaker 1: or not, I can't make you, but I'm telling you 1703 01:21:16,160 --> 01:21:17,920 Speaker 1: Johnny Eblin is going to be a hard guy to 1704 01:21:17,960 --> 01:21:21,559 Speaker 1: look good against. Okay, so I thought he might wrestle 1705 01:21:21,640 --> 01:21:24,479 Speaker 1: against Edwards, and to your point, when he did, in 1706 01:21:24,479 --> 01:21:26,880 Speaker 1: a very limited capacity, he looked just fine or at 1707 01:21:26,920 --> 01:21:29,320 Speaker 1: least good enough to win. But he just didn't do it. 1708 01:21:29,320 --> 01:21:30,960 Speaker 1: And maybe he didn't have the gas tank, maybe he's 1709 01:21:30,960 --> 01:21:32,920 Speaker 1: got the miles on his body. He just can't. He 1710 01:21:32,920 --> 01:21:34,920 Speaker 1: can't commit to that kind of a fight anymore. He 1711 01:21:34,920 --> 01:21:36,880 Speaker 1: can only commit to a more open kind of at 1712 01:21:37,560 --> 01:21:40,919 Speaker 1: range kind of a fight, and open at range Edwards 1713 01:21:41,040 --> 01:21:43,920 Speaker 1: was dude way better. He was just way better. He 1714 01:21:43,920 --> 01:21:47,920 Speaker 1: made like his brother. He made a lot of good, calculated, 1715 01:21:48,080 --> 01:21:51,400 Speaker 1: smart decisions. He didn't make a lot of dumb errors. 1716 01:21:51,479 --> 01:21:54,920 Speaker 1: He was conservative and certainly his offense at times, but 1717 01:21:55,200 --> 01:21:58,280 Speaker 1: never really in any kind of trouble, hardly at all, 1718 01:21:58,400 --> 01:22:00,719 Speaker 1: as long as that fight was at range he wanted, 1719 01:22:01,160 --> 01:22:02,800 Speaker 1: you know, without much issue, and to your point, he 1720 01:22:02,840 --> 01:22:04,559 Speaker 1: was able to get even some top spots on the 1721 01:22:04,560 --> 01:22:07,679 Speaker 1: ground as well. So I had been wrong about Fabian Edwards. 1722 01:22:07,720 --> 01:22:09,840 Speaker 1: I want to be very clear about that. But I 1723 01:22:10,000 --> 01:22:12,479 Speaker 1: do think it is important to say, guys, this is 1724 01:22:12,600 --> 01:22:17,280 Speaker 1: definitely definitely a post prime Musase. It doesn't mean that's 1725 01:22:17,280 --> 01:22:19,240 Speaker 1: an easy guy to beat, but that I can say 1726 01:22:19,360 --> 01:22:22,280 Speaker 1: Edwards only be a guy because he's old. No, Edward's 1727 01:22:22,280 --> 01:22:24,240 Speaker 1: clearly leveled up here, Like he looked pretty good, and 1728 01:22:24,240 --> 01:22:26,360 Speaker 1: I think he's got a bright future. I think he's 1729 01:22:26,400 --> 01:22:28,639 Speaker 1: what thirty one, so he's still he's still pretty young. 1730 01:22:29,600 --> 01:22:34,200 Speaker 1: But I saw Musasi's prime like in its prime. This 1731 01:22:34,280 --> 01:22:36,360 Speaker 1: is just not that guy. It's just not that guy 1732 01:22:36,680 --> 01:22:39,160 Speaker 1: he used to have. I think pretty good cardio and 1733 01:22:39,200 --> 01:22:41,640 Speaker 1: now it seems like it's good enough to make it 1734 01:22:41,680 --> 01:22:44,320 Speaker 1: five rounds, but not in any way to weaponize it. 1735 01:22:44,400 --> 01:22:46,080 Speaker 1: He used to have a lot more zip and pop 1736 01:22:46,120 --> 01:22:48,519 Speaker 1: and snap. He could move more. He was much more 1737 01:22:48,520 --> 01:22:50,679 Speaker 1: of a dynamic ground He'd been a ground to pound threat, 1738 01:22:51,040 --> 01:22:53,599 Speaker 1: you know, since the aughts, for fuck's sake. He just 1739 01:22:53,680 --> 01:22:56,040 Speaker 1: had none of that this time. I think I think 1740 01:22:56,160 --> 01:22:57,880 Speaker 1: you know, whether he calls it a day or not, 1741 01:22:58,000 --> 01:23:02,280 Speaker 1: I don't know, but BC, it would be just disingenuous 1742 01:23:02,320 --> 01:23:04,120 Speaker 1: to say this is a guy who's just as good 1743 01:23:04,120 --> 01:23:06,680 Speaker 1: as he's always been. No, he did look old, and 1744 01:23:06,760 --> 01:23:08,120 Speaker 1: I think it did play a role. 1745 01:23:08,400 --> 01:23:10,680 Speaker 2: Yeah it did. And this was the right fight in 1746 01:23:10,760 --> 01:23:12,639 Speaker 2: terms of bats making to show us that a potential 1747 01:23:12,640 --> 01:23:15,519 Speaker 2: crossroads fight that lived up to that one guy coming 1748 01:23:15,560 --> 01:23:18,360 Speaker 2: on the other guy going away. No disrespect. He's a 1749 01:23:18,479 --> 01:23:22,519 Speaker 2: legend in this game, but performances like this speak to 1750 01:23:22,560 --> 01:23:25,120 Speaker 2: what's left of the fight inside the great Warrior, and 1751 01:23:25,160 --> 01:23:27,400 Speaker 2: that's where we are. And Luke. I've also been corrected 1752 01:23:27,400 --> 01:23:30,360 Speaker 2: on Twitter, rightfully by the fans who remind me that 1753 01:23:30,760 --> 01:23:33,519 Speaker 2: Ian Gary's name is Ian Machado Gary as a nod 1754 01:23:33,560 --> 01:23:37,160 Speaker 2: to his wife's maiden name. So that's a very very 1755 01:23:37,280 --> 01:23:38,240 Speaker 2: nice move right there. 1756 01:23:38,280 --> 01:23:40,680 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, fair enough, all right, whatever he wants to do. 1757 01:23:41,680 --> 01:23:47,519 Speaker 1: But BC for Musaci. Oh, actually let me ask for Edwards. Edwards. 1758 01:23:47,520 --> 01:23:49,200 Speaker 1: You saw we have if you can show one more time, 1759 01:23:49,280 --> 01:23:51,680 Speaker 1: guys the face off you had with Johnny Eblin. I 1760 01:23:51,720 --> 01:23:54,280 Speaker 1: didn't love the face off. UFC does it, Beltore does it. 1761 01:23:54,280 --> 01:23:56,800 Speaker 1: They all do it. One does it. Sometimes it works, 1762 01:23:56,840 --> 01:23:58,200 Speaker 1: sometimes it does it. Most of the time it feels 1763 01:23:58,240 --> 01:24:00,000 Speaker 1: like it doesn't work for me because it kind of 1764 01:24:00,040 --> 01:24:02,320 Speaker 1: takes away from Fabian's like grand moment. This was the 1765 01:24:02,360 --> 01:24:04,479 Speaker 1: biggest one of his career. But they are gonna set 1766 01:24:04,479 --> 01:24:06,599 Speaker 1: it up next. Fabian Edwards is gonna take on Johnny Evlin. 1767 01:24:06,640 --> 01:24:10,160 Speaker 1: By the way, this is gonna be uh Eblin versus Edwards, 1768 01:24:10,240 --> 01:24:14,639 Speaker 1: a set for Saturday, September twenty third at Dublin's three Arena. 1769 01:24:14,680 --> 01:24:16,240 Speaker 1: I do I think it's smart to put that fight 1770 01:24:16,320 --> 01:24:20,280 Speaker 1: in Ireland. It's gonna be a raucous fucking crowd. But 1771 01:24:20,320 --> 01:24:23,639 Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, maybe I'm wrong again for sleeping 1772 01:24:23,680 --> 01:24:25,800 Speaker 1: on Fabian Edwards. But Johnny Evlin's a tough fucking fight 1773 01:24:25,840 --> 01:24:27,280 Speaker 1: for him, He's gonna be a. 1774 01:24:27,280 --> 01:24:29,639 Speaker 2: Tough fight that's a tough fight. We're gonna find out, Luke. Okay, 1775 01:24:29,680 --> 01:24:31,519 Speaker 2: it was a tough fight. I love Johnny Edwards. Liberal 1776 01:24:31,600 --> 01:24:33,879 Speaker 2: used to the F word though during that post exchange, 1777 01:24:33,920 --> 01:24:34,439 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. 1778 01:24:34,760 --> 01:24:37,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he didn't mind getting getting a little greasy there. 1779 01:24:37,240 --> 01:24:38,640 Speaker 1: But what are you gonna do? All right, Last but 1780 01:24:38,680 --> 01:24:40,120 Speaker 1: not Least we see point number five. 1781 01:24:40,439 --> 01:24:42,160 Speaker 2: So this is, by the way, quickly, if you were 1782 01:24:42,200 --> 01:24:44,519 Speaker 2: a better husband, look, you would consider changing your last 1783 01:24:44,600 --> 01:24:46,320 Speaker 2: name to your wife's maiden name. 1784 01:24:46,920 --> 01:24:52,120 Speaker 1: So she asked me to do that actually, and I 1785 01:24:52,160 --> 01:24:53,880 Speaker 1: was like, yeah, no. 1786 01:24:53,320 --> 01:24:55,960 Speaker 2: No, You're like, there's America baby. 1787 01:24:56,120 --> 01:24:58,599 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I guess. So here's the thing. I haven't 1788 01:24:58,640 --> 01:25:03,920 Speaker 1: explored Colombian's lizenship, but if I did, I think the 1789 01:25:03,960 --> 01:25:06,000 Speaker 1: way that it would work was that my name wouldn't 1790 01:25:06,040 --> 01:25:10,880 Speaker 1: change other than it would add her maiden name at 1791 01:25:10,880 --> 01:25:14,880 Speaker 1: the end of mine. Okay, so uh for like for 1792 01:25:14,960 --> 01:25:17,800 Speaker 1: my national ID there. So I guess I would change 1793 01:25:17,800 --> 01:25:20,960 Speaker 1: my name in that case. Maybe maybe that's something about 1794 01:25:21,200 --> 01:25:22,840 Speaker 1: happening to Ian Gary, but I don't know. 1795 01:25:23,360 --> 01:25:25,960 Speaker 2: Okay, true love will make you do anything. Look, and 1796 01:25:26,000 --> 01:25:27,519 Speaker 2: it's a beautiful thing, all right. 1797 01:25:27,840 --> 01:25:31,960 Speaker 1: That's true BC. Last but not Least how about Mansour Barnoi, 1798 01:25:32,640 --> 01:25:35,439 Speaker 1: who I had thought was the dark horse of this tournament. Boy, 1799 01:25:35,479 --> 01:25:37,439 Speaker 1: I did not love this fight from him, so he 1800 01:25:37,880 --> 01:25:40,000 Speaker 1: had I mean, let's give him some credit. Both of 1801 01:25:40,000 --> 01:25:45,360 Speaker 1: these guys. Actually, Barnowi and Primis had an absolute dog fight, 1802 01:25:45,560 --> 01:25:49,800 Speaker 1: I mean in the trenches, and Brent Premis came out 1803 01:25:49,840 --> 01:25:52,360 Speaker 1: on top in the last two rounds, really using his 1804 01:25:52,560 --> 01:25:55,920 Speaker 1: top control and his better overall grappling and wrestling to 1805 01:25:56,000 --> 01:25:59,000 Speaker 1: make up that difference. BC, I want to talk about 1806 01:25:59,000 --> 01:26:01,040 Speaker 1: how Barnowie fought just a minute, but we got to 1807 01:26:01,040 --> 01:26:04,360 Speaker 1: give some credit to Premise. Dude, he had to dig 1808 01:26:04,760 --> 01:26:08,559 Speaker 1: deep in this contest and he did it. What can 1809 01:26:08,600 --> 01:26:10,720 Speaker 1: you say about how he persevered? And then let's talk 1810 01:26:10,760 --> 01:26:12,920 Speaker 1: about how you think he'll do against usbindermer Mainoff. 1811 01:26:13,240 --> 01:26:15,920 Speaker 2: It's hard, It's like he's thirty eight years old. This 1812 01:26:16,080 --> 01:26:20,120 Speaker 2: was a gutsy ass win over five rounds to put 1813 01:26:20,200 --> 01:26:22,559 Speaker 2: himself back into the title piction. In fact, he'll be 1814 01:26:22,560 --> 01:26:25,360 Speaker 2: facing the champion Housmanner Maga medalf in the next round 1815 01:26:25,439 --> 01:26:28,679 Speaker 2: of this million dollar tournament. But Luke and I think 1816 01:26:28,680 --> 01:26:30,439 Speaker 2: this button needs to be mentioned. I know Big John 1817 01:26:30,479 --> 01:26:32,600 Speaker 2: in the moment was really talking up. This is the 1818 01:26:32,640 --> 01:26:34,920 Speaker 2: best Brent premise we've ever seen. I don't actually think 1819 01:26:34,920 --> 01:26:37,360 Speaker 2: it was. I thought premise really telegraphed his striking, and 1820 01:26:37,360 --> 01:26:41,040 Speaker 2: there were elements I didn't like, but the toughness, the perseverance, 1821 01:26:41,160 --> 01:26:47,240 Speaker 2: the focus was there. Luke bar Now we fought all gas, 1822 01:26:47,439 --> 01:26:50,840 Speaker 2: no breaks for about two rounds. Didn't set up any 1823 01:26:50,880 --> 01:26:55,080 Speaker 2: of his offense, just full speed ahead, like mashing the 1824 01:26:55,080 --> 01:26:57,639 Speaker 2: buttons on the video game. That I think he gassed 1825 01:26:57,680 --> 01:26:59,960 Speaker 2: himself out. And I think what this became was a 1826 01:27:00,120 --> 01:27:02,160 Speaker 2: war of attrition, and it was brutal lot of times, 1827 01:27:02,240 --> 01:27:04,680 Speaker 2: and it certainly was just one of those where you 1828 01:27:04,720 --> 01:27:06,760 Speaker 2: bite down and you show the dog that's in you. 1829 01:27:07,120 --> 01:27:09,360 Speaker 2: Brent premise is gonna fight for a world title again, 1830 01:27:09,439 --> 01:27:12,679 Speaker 2: because that dog is still there. He's in great shape. 1831 01:27:12,800 --> 01:27:16,120 Speaker 2: He's making this last run. He's taking it serious. But 1832 01:27:16,200 --> 01:27:18,120 Speaker 2: I don't think this was necessarily the best of him. 1833 01:27:18,160 --> 01:27:20,400 Speaker 2: I just think he bit down an outlasted a guy 1834 01:27:20,439 --> 01:27:25,200 Speaker 2: who's strategy, in hindsight, deserves a second look. 1835 01:27:26,320 --> 01:27:29,080 Speaker 1: I don't think that's unfair. I don't think that's unfair. Again, 1836 01:27:29,200 --> 01:27:31,439 Speaker 1: best Brent premise, I don't know about that, But what 1837 01:27:31,520 --> 01:27:34,880 Speaker 1: I will say is the way in which Barnawee fought 1838 01:27:35,600 --> 01:27:39,040 Speaker 1: both opened up some opportunities, but also because it was 1839 01:27:39,120 --> 01:27:40,800 Speaker 1: in your face. I mean for folks who don't know, 1840 01:27:41,120 --> 01:27:43,040 Speaker 1: why don't we just in the opening round just walks 1841 01:27:43,040 --> 01:27:45,600 Speaker 1: across the cage, clinches with him and just has not 1842 01:27:45,720 --> 01:27:48,880 Speaker 1: quite like fry Takeyama, but this kind of just open 1843 01:27:49,000 --> 01:27:51,600 Speaker 1: clinch style where once hitting the other one and then 1844 01:27:51,680 --> 01:27:53,760 Speaker 1: getting hit and then back, I mean, just wild as 1845 01:27:53,800 --> 01:27:56,360 Speaker 1: shit and does that again in the second round and 1846 01:27:56,600 --> 01:28:00,280 Speaker 1: was fighting him from side control underneath, like just weird, 1847 01:28:00,320 --> 01:28:04,120 Speaker 1: in your face, bizarre, total stuff that required you to 1848 01:28:04,640 --> 01:28:07,040 Speaker 1: it pulled something out of premise. I don't know if 1849 01:28:07,040 --> 01:28:09,240 Speaker 1: he could pull it out again, you know if as 1850 01:28:09,240 --> 01:28:11,720 Speaker 1: long as his careers it goes on. BC, Like it 1851 01:28:11,840 --> 01:28:14,360 Speaker 1: was a real special moment where he rose to the occasion. 1852 01:28:14,479 --> 01:28:16,719 Speaker 1: I tipped my hat to him because that was amazing, 1853 01:28:16,760 --> 01:28:18,960 Speaker 1: But I don't know if he could replicate that consistently. 1854 01:28:19,320 --> 01:28:22,200 Speaker 1: That seems like a one and done type scenario, and 1855 01:28:22,280 --> 01:28:26,000 Speaker 1: again Barnowie just kind of served it up to him BC. 1856 01:28:26,200 --> 01:28:29,200 Speaker 1: I hated the way he fought. I hated the way 1857 01:28:29,240 --> 01:28:32,040 Speaker 1: he fought. It seemed to me when he was at range, 1858 01:28:32,439 --> 01:28:36,160 Speaker 1: moving popping the whole nine yards. He was doing really 1859 01:28:36,200 --> 01:28:40,040 Speaker 1: well and then just abandon it to stay in range 1860 01:28:40,200 --> 01:28:43,800 Speaker 1: take unnecessary damage. Premise is like, if you're gonna serve 1861 01:28:43,840 --> 01:28:45,759 Speaker 1: it up, I'm happy to take advantage of it does 1862 01:28:45,880 --> 01:28:47,639 Speaker 1: and gets the W again. What I want to point 1863 01:28:47,640 --> 01:28:50,120 Speaker 1: out with much more expert control in the grappling department 1864 01:28:50,320 --> 01:28:53,879 Speaker 1: in the last two rounds, but BC to what extent 1865 01:28:53,960 --> 01:28:56,280 Speaker 1: did Barnawi just give the fight away? 1866 01:28:57,080 --> 01:28:59,519 Speaker 2: Yeah, I just too snapped up hate today. As Luke 1867 01:28:59,640 --> 01:29:01,840 Speaker 2: just said, he gave him. By the way, Luke, he 1868 01:29:01,880 --> 01:29:04,600 Speaker 2: thought he was gonna come out there attack get a 1869 01:29:04,640 --> 01:29:08,200 Speaker 2: big finish. He's in Paris. I mean, the crowd was rocking. 1870 01:29:08,280 --> 01:29:10,240 Speaker 2: You gotta give them credit for there. I don't know 1871 01:29:10,280 --> 01:29:12,839 Speaker 2: if you saw the live shots of Josh Thompson and 1872 01:29:12,840 --> 01:29:15,280 Speaker 2: and AG two in the arena standing up, I mean 1873 01:29:15,320 --> 01:29:18,559 Speaker 2: it was awesome, but strategy was horrible in that regard. 1874 01:29:18,640 --> 01:29:21,240 Speaker 2: And he's a warrior. He hung on his face was 1875 01:29:21,280 --> 01:29:23,880 Speaker 2: hamburger at the end. But yeah, Luke, I hated it 1876 01:29:23,960 --> 01:29:25,840 Speaker 2: just the same. I almost hated it as bad as 1877 01:29:25,880 --> 01:29:31,000 Speaker 2: my miss my fluid consumption. I miscalculated it, Luke throughout 1878 01:29:31,000 --> 01:29:32,920 Speaker 2: the show. So if you could just you know, entertain 1879 01:29:33,000 --> 01:29:35,280 Speaker 2: for like thirty seconds and then we'll worry about the 1880 01:29:35,280 --> 01:29:37,640 Speaker 2: forgiveness part afterwards. All right, it was great talking to you. 1881 01:29:38,600 --> 01:29:40,200 Speaker 1: We have to do we have to do DMS from 1882 01:29:40,240 --> 01:29:41,760 Speaker 1: Donks next, but I guess you can go do your thing. 1883 01:29:41,840 --> 01:29:43,719 Speaker 1: I will say this. I thought it was really funny 1884 01:29:44,280 --> 01:29:47,519 Speaker 1: how Big John was pronouncing Tibo Guti. He was like, 1885 01:29:47,600 --> 01:29:50,960 Speaker 1: congratulations to your winner, t Bo Gooty. I'm like, I 1886 01:29:51,000 --> 01:29:53,559 Speaker 1: don't think Guti is supposed to rhyme with booty quite 1887 01:29:53,600 --> 01:29:56,360 Speaker 1: in that way, but it worked out just the same. 1888 01:29:56,360 --> 01:29:58,080 Speaker 1: So shots everyone there in Paris that did a great 1889 01:29:58,120 --> 01:30:01,639 Speaker 1: jobsh Thompson and Amanda Garrett, Big John, and I don't 1890 01:30:01,640 --> 01:30:04,439 Speaker 1: remember the name of the other British commentator guy, but 1891 01:30:04,760 --> 01:30:06,880 Speaker 1: he did a pretty good job there as well. And 1892 01:30:06,920 --> 01:30:09,439 Speaker 1: by the way, last but not least, Primise takes on 1893 01:30:09,560 --> 01:30:12,360 Speaker 1: now Usmin numberga Madoff who they had in the ring 1894 01:30:12,479 --> 01:30:15,840 Speaker 1: there after the contest was over. My sense of things 1895 01:30:15,880 --> 01:30:18,400 Speaker 1: about how that contest goes. You know, it's just hard 1896 01:30:18,400 --> 01:30:20,240 Speaker 1: for me to believe that Brent Premise is gonna beat 1897 01:30:20,280 --> 01:30:24,160 Speaker 1: Memberica Madoff. Everything that Primise is good at. I feel 1898 01:30:24,200 --> 01:30:26,719 Speaker 1: like Memerga Madov is also good at and probably better. 1899 01:30:26,800 --> 01:30:28,840 Speaker 1: Certainly he's much younger. I think he's got much better 1900 01:30:28,880 --> 01:30:33,280 Speaker 1: stand up. So again, if you've not seen that contest, 1901 01:30:33,360 --> 01:30:38,840 Speaker 1: you really should. Primis turned in an absolutely gut check 1902 01:30:38,920 --> 01:30:42,639 Speaker 1: performance if ever there was one. In MMA he won 1903 01:30:42,960 --> 01:30:48,200 Speaker 1: thousand percent. Earned this opportunity against Ousman. But in the end, 1904 01:30:48,200 --> 01:30:49,720 Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be a difficult one for him 1905 01:30:49,720 --> 01:30:52,519 Speaker 1: to get a win, So we'll see how that goes. 1906 01:30:52,560 --> 01:30:54,800 Speaker 1: All right, With that in mind, that's our top five. 1907 01:30:55,320 --> 01:30:56,160 Speaker 1: BC is back. 1908 01:30:56,800 --> 01:30:58,519 Speaker 2: Look, if we got to drop a deuce, I could 1909 01:30:58,520 --> 01:30:59,439 Speaker 2: take us home here. 1910 01:30:59,560 --> 01:31:01,760 Speaker 1: This is It's okay, it's time for the dms from 1911 01:31:01,760 --> 01:31:03,800 Speaker 1: the diggity dongs. Let's go to it right now. 1912 01:31:04,040 --> 01:31:05,920 Speaker 2: Eehaw yeah, all right. 1913 01:31:07,360 --> 01:31:10,240 Speaker 1: All right, BC, let's do this first things first, from 1914 01:31:10,320 --> 01:31:14,200 Speaker 1: it's not cage fighting, they ask, with Gileton having fought 1915 01:31:14,240 --> 01:31:17,760 Speaker 1: as low as welterweight before which current one seventy and 1916 01:31:17,840 --> 01:31:21,520 Speaker 1: one eighty five vers could have a successful run at heavyweight. 1917 01:31:21,760 --> 01:31:24,320 Speaker 2: That's an interesting question, Luke, because we did see Rumble 1918 01:31:24,360 --> 01:31:27,400 Speaker 2: Johnson do remarkable shifts in weight similar to this. 1919 01:31:28,520 --> 01:31:30,880 Speaker 1: I was there he fought in DC when he fought 1920 01:31:30,960 --> 01:31:35,360 Speaker 1: Charlie Brenneman at one seventy, So I've seen him. I 1921 01:31:35,400 --> 01:31:37,200 Speaker 1: saw him at one. I saw him cutting weight for 1922 01:31:37,200 --> 01:31:39,640 Speaker 1: that fight. He looked like shit trying to do it, 1923 01:31:40,400 --> 01:31:43,400 Speaker 1: but he got it done. I think he did. So 1924 01:31:43,479 --> 01:31:45,640 Speaker 1: you have to ask a question about like, who is 1925 01:31:45,680 --> 01:31:48,639 Speaker 1: a bit of a bigger guy but also really young 1926 01:31:48,880 --> 01:31:51,760 Speaker 1: in the weight class, right, because they come in. 1927 01:31:51,760 --> 01:31:52,280 Speaker 2: A big frame. 1928 01:31:52,360 --> 01:31:52,479 Speaker 3: Bo. 1929 01:31:53,120 --> 01:31:55,080 Speaker 2: You need a tall frame that can carry a lot 1930 01:31:55,080 --> 01:31:55,599 Speaker 2: of back. 1931 01:31:55,479 --> 01:31:59,479 Speaker 1: Muscle one seventy. I don't know if Hamzat's that guy. 1932 01:32:00,840 --> 01:32:03,280 Speaker 1: And Sean Brady is muscular, but he's a little too 1933 01:32:03,320 --> 01:32:05,599 Speaker 1: short I think for heavyweight, right. 1934 01:32:05,920 --> 01:32:08,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, you need height, dude, you really need height, or 1935 01:32:08,439 --> 01:32:10,439 Speaker 2: then you're going to be deron winning your own division, 1936 01:32:10,439 --> 01:32:11,000 Speaker 2: you know what I mean? 1937 01:32:11,040 --> 01:32:14,439 Speaker 1: I think Camaro could probably get away with it, right 1938 01:32:15,160 --> 01:32:16,040 Speaker 1: maybe well. 1939 01:32:15,880 --> 01:32:18,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, because when he originally talked about the idea of 1940 01:32:18,120 --> 01:32:19,840 Speaker 2: maybe going up to light heavyweight, we were all like 1941 01:32:20,000 --> 01:32:25,280 Speaker 2: what But he does have decent height. I mean, can 1942 01:32:25,280 --> 01:32:27,000 Speaker 2: you put more on that frame though, Luke, he may 1943 01:32:27,040 --> 01:32:29,599 Speaker 2: have jet maxed out the jackness of that frame at 1944 01:32:29,600 --> 01:32:30,679 Speaker 2: one seventy Yeah. 1945 01:32:30,520 --> 01:32:32,479 Speaker 1: I don't know. See, that's the thing. Like Almeida at 1946 01:32:32,479 --> 01:32:36,719 Speaker 1: two thirty is lean, you know what I'm saying. True, 1947 01:32:36,800 --> 01:32:39,280 Speaker 1: someone's saying if you think Mikey says, if you think 1948 01:32:39,320 --> 01:32:43,120 Speaker 1: Camaro can, you have to agree that Hamzac can, right? 1949 01:32:44,200 --> 01:32:46,080 Speaker 1: I mean I think Hamzak could, but I don't think 1950 01:32:46,080 --> 01:32:48,720 Speaker 1: that like he'd be getting wins quite as maybe he 1951 01:32:48,760 --> 01:32:50,320 Speaker 1: would be. I don't know. Can Hamsad do it? 1952 01:32:51,920 --> 01:32:54,160 Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't. I mean it's asking a lot. 1953 01:32:54,280 --> 01:32:56,800 Speaker 2: You've got to be wired a certain way too. 1954 01:32:56,840 --> 01:32:59,160 Speaker 1: I think, like just ask a question, who at two 1955 01:32:59,200 --> 01:33:01,360 Speaker 1: point thirty is on to look like Almeida? 1956 01:33:01,439 --> 01:33:01,679 Speaker 2: Does? 1957 01:33:02,680 --> 01:33:04,960 Speaker 1: I don't think Ham's on at two thirty would look 1958 01:33:05,040 --> 01:33:07,080 Speaker 1: like Almeida, you know what I'm saying. 1959 01:33:07,400 --> 01:33:09,280 Speaker 2: But he has the height, he's got the wrestling game 1960 01:33:09,320 --> 01:33:13,280 Speaker 2: which helps. Yeah, probably the answer there. I mean, according 1961 01:33:13,360 --> 01:33:15,439 Speaker 2: to you, Robert Whitaker can like go up to heavyweight 1962 01:33:15,479 --> 01:33:16,360 Speaker 2: and fight John Jones. 1963 01:33:16,400 --> 01:33:18,800 Speaker 1: You know way, why don't you just book all rematches again? 1964 01:33:18,840 --> 01:33:21,519 Speaker 1: How about that? Why don't you just borrow every other 1965 01:33:21,560 --> 01:33:26,800 Speaker 1: matchmaker's idea? All right? Yeah? From uh Z to the 1966 01:33:26,960 --> 01:33:30,880 Speaker 1: N seven or Z to then seven? Is there any 1967 01:33:30,920 --> 01:33:33,160 Speaker 1: way the NGANU News lives up to the hype BC. 1968 01:33:33,320 --> 01:33:35,200 Speaker 1: Can I go first on this? Please? Oh? 1969 01:33:35,320 --> 01:33:36,640 Speaker 2: Yeah? I love you to you like I'll go to 1970 01:33:36,640 --> 01:33:37,400 Speaker 2: the bathroom. 1971 01:33:37,080 --> 01:33:38,240 Speaker 1: Can go hid So, I don't know if we have 1972 01:33:41,000 --> 01:33:43,760 Speaker 1: what is wrong with your what's happening there today? There? 1973 01:33:43,800 --> 01:33:43,960 Speaker 3: Guy? 1974 01:33:44,080 --> 01:33:45,479 Speaker 1: Huh, you are right? 1975 01:33:45,880 --> 01:33:48,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I just had a lot of fluids, Luke, sorry, 1976 01:33:48,640 --> 01:33:48,880 Speaker 2: b C. 1977 01:33:49,040 --> 01:33:51,600 Speaker 1: Here's what's gonna happen. So over the weekend, Francis and 1978 01:33:51,640 --> 01:33:53,880 Speaker 1: Ghan who shot on all the morons on Twitter who 1979 01:33:53,960 --> 01:33:56,360 Speaker 1: took a dump on him, and then put out this 1980 01:33:56,840 --> 01:34:00,719 Speaker 1: notification that at one pm tomorrow he's gonna be releasing 1981 01:34:00,720 --> 01:34:02,439 Speaker 1: a video on his YouTube channel where I think he 1982 01:34:02,479 --> 01:34:05,559 Speaker 1: announces what we assume will be assigning with the pfl BC. 1983 01:34:06,160 --> 01:34:09,639 Speaker 1: I want you to mark this in stone. Okay, tomorrow, 1984 01:34:09,640 --> 01:34:11,280 Speaker 1: Here's what's gonna happen. I don't know what the terms 1985 01:34:11,320 --> 01:34:13,680 Speaker 1: is that I literally I'm being on my mother. They 1986 01:34:13,720 --> 01:34:15,200 Speaker 1: have my mother say, I do not know what the 1987 01:34:15,280 --> 01:34:18,280 Speaker 1: terms are of this deal. I give no clue. I'm 1988 01:34:18,320 --> 01:34:21,479 Speaker 1: guessing it's gonna be pretty lucrative. But we shall see it. 1989 01:34:21,760 --> 01:34:24,479 Speaker 1: If it is lucrative, and I should say especially if 1990 01:34:24,479 --> 01:34:27,840 Speaker 1: it is lucrative, there are gonna be people shitting all 1991 01:34:27,880 --> 01:34:30,320 Speaker 1: over it tomorrow. There are gonna be people being like, 1992 01:34:30,880 --> 01:34:32,960 Speaker 1: uh yeah, good for him. He's got a bag. These 1993 01:34:32,960 --> 01:34:34,680 Speaker 1: are fights I don't care about. I don't want to 1994 01:34:34,720 --> 01:34:36,360 Speaker 1: see when, of course, what PFL is trying to do 1995 01:34:36,439 --> 01:34:39,639 Speaker 1: is then using Gondu's way to sign other heavyweights. That's 1996 01:34:39,680 --> 01:34:41,880 Speaker 1: that's the whole point. Like people like who's gonna fight? Well, 1997 01:34:41,960 --> 01:34:44,120 Speaker 1: they got to recruit some people. I think that's the idea. 1998 01:34:44,560 --> 01:34:47,439 Speaker 1: But I just want to point out expect tomorrow that, 1999 01:34:48,040 --> 01:34:50,960 Speaker 1: especially if the deal is good, there's gonna be an 2000 01:34:51,080 --> 01:34:57,439 Speaker 1: absolute barrage of bullets headed Francis's way with claims of 2001 01:34:57,880 --> 01:35:01,840 Speaker 1: this sucks, I hate this. He's gonna ruin PFL, you 2002 01:35:02,040 --> 01:35:04,120 Speaker 1: name it. It's going to be in full force tomorrow. 2003 01:35:05,360 --> 01:35:07,280 Speaker 2: I mean, if he has a chance tomorrow to have 2004 01:35:08,840 --> 01:35:11,719 Speaker 2: the bag to go along with the virtue, as Ulways 2005 01:35:11,720 --> 01:35:16,400 Speaker 2: says already his reward, then this is how you do it. 2006 01:35:16,600 --> 01:35:19,720 Speaker 2: Because Luke, look, I don't know if all the details 2007 01:35:19,760 --> 01:35:21,640 Speaker 2: that have been researched by my guy over there at 2008 01:35:21,720 --> 01:35:26,040 Speaker 2: MMAI are true, but his lengthy video about this exact thing, 2009 01:35:27,080 --> 01:35:29,719 Speaker 2: oh wow, is it eye opening about the way these 2010 01:35:29,720 --> 01:35:33,920 Speaker 2: contracts are stay signed in stage and after Francis fell apart, 2011 01:35:33,960 --> 01:35:38,920 Speaker 2: how they changed the contracts at the UFC and like dude, 2012 01:35:38,960 --> 01:35:42,600 Speaker 2: like virtue already is Francis's reward. I think he's a 2013 01:35:42,680 --> 01:35:46,240 Speaker 2: special individual in that regard. But he also has the 2014 01:35:46,280 --> 01:35:48,920 Speaker 2: potential here to sign a very lucrative deal and a 2015 01:35:49,080 --> 01:35:52,479 Speaker 2: meaningful organization that happens to fight on the same channel 2016 01:35:52,800 --> 01:35:54,920 Speaker 2: and may or may not have the most intelligent cage. 2017 01:35:55,439 --> 01:35:57,720 Speaker 2: And if he can have that clause in his deal, 2018 01:35:57,760 --> 01:36:00,240 Speaker 2: we'll find out maybe tomorrow that allows him all so 2019 01:36:00,720 --> 01:36:05,640 Speaker 2: for the lucrative bucket list heavyweight boxing move. I mean, 2020 01:36:05,760 --> 01:36:09,800 Speaker 2: unless unless your entire focus is I wanted John Jones 2021 01:36:09,880 --> 01:36:12,680 Speaker 2: versus and Ghan who I deserve to have it, and 2022 01:36:12,720 --> 01:36:15,160 Speaker 2: you're not willing to point back at the organization for 2023 01:36:15,280 --> 01:36:18,080 Speaker 2: why maybe parts of that didn't happen, And you're just 2024 01:36:18,200 --> 01:36:20,439 Speaker 2: such a brand homer that this is what it is. 2025 01:36:20,720 --> 01:36:23,160 Speaker 2: How do you not applaud what Francis about is about 2026 01:36:23,160 --> 01:36:25,960 Speaker 2: to announce for himself tomorrow. I mean, I will go 2027 01:36:26,080 --> 01:36:28,720 Speaker 2: to my grave with the respect as a man for 2028 01:36:28,800 --> 01:36:32,000 Speaker 2: how he handled this entire process how I mean, Look, 2029 01:36:32,960 --> 01:36:36,120 Speaker 2: remember when Andy on Shawshanks spoiler alert had to like 2030 01:36:36,160 --> 01:36:40,879 Speaker 2: crawl through the tunnel of shit to get to paradise. 2031 01:36:41,360 --> 01:36:41,760 Speaker 1: Mm hmm. 2032 01:36:42,400 --> 01:36:44,559 Speaker 2: Francis had to do that in terms of MMA business, 2033 01:36:44,560 --> 01:36:48,040 Speaker 2: in terms of the constant public slashing of his character 2034 01:36:48,120 --> 01:36:50,840 Speaker 2: in ways that are proven to not be true and 2035 01:36:50,920 --> 01:36:53,560 Speaker 2: don't match up. Let's let him have it. 2036 01:36:54,320 --> 01:36:55,639 Speaker 1: Avery stage, they're going to do it. 2037 01:36:55,680 --> 01:36:57,800 Speaker 2: Let's have let him have his day. Look, unless the 2038 01:36:57,840 --> 01:37:00,559 Speaker 2: criticism is coming directly from Dana, I don't want to 2039 01:37:00,560 --> 01:37:02,640 Speaker 2: hear it, and even then I can probably still heckle it. 2040 01:37:02,680 --> 01:37:06,040 Speaker 2: But like if Joe ufc fan in Omaha is just 2041 01:37:06,160 --> 01:37:09,400 Speaker 2: mad that Francis is not fighting John and he wants 2042 01:37:09,439 --> 01:37:12,320 Speaker 2: to piss on this, that's fine. Normally I would say 2043 01:37:12,400 --> 01:37:14,559 Speaker 2: Francis will be the one laughing going back to the bank. 2044 01:37:14,600 --> 01:37:18,000 Speaker 2: But it's not even about the bank for Francis Luke right. 2045 01:37:20,040 --> 01:37:22,040 Speaker 1: On level some level. 2046 01:37:22,120 --> 01:37:24,840 Speaker 2: But that's not like that's not the main reason. I mean, 2047 01:37:24,880 --> 01:37:27,479 Speaker 2: it's just I just think that people there there's two 2048 01:37:27,560 --> 01:37:30,200 Speaker 2: kinds of people in this world, Luke, people that are 2049 01:37:30,320 --> 01:37:38,160 Speaker 2: solely and exclusively motivated by money and everyone else, And 2050 01:37:38,200 --> 01:37:40,120 Speaker 2: sometimes there's a gray area, and we can float in 2051 01:37:40,160 --> 01:37:42,840 Speaker 2: between those two based on certain times in our life 2052 01:37:42,920 --> 01:37:45,479 Speaker 2: or situations. But I think at the end of the day, 2053 01:37:45,920 --> 01:37:48,599 Speaker 2: you'll either do anything for the dollar and sell your 2054 01:37:48,600 --> 01:37:51,759 Speaker 2: soul and that's all that matters. Or at some point 2055 01:37:51,800 --> 01:37:55,120 Speaker 2: you have a line of non negotiables, which Francis hit 2056 01:37:55,439 --> 01:37:58,760 Speaker 2: with the UFC brass and now he's doing his own way. 2057 01:37:58,880 --> 01:38:01,320 Speaker 2: If you don't applaud that, then you know you don't 2058 01:38:01,360 --> 01:38:03,679 Speaker 2: believe in the American way, Luke, and you don't believe 2059 01:38:03,680 --> 01:38:04,719 Speaker 2: in the good in this world. 2060 01:38:04,960 --> 01:38:07,439 Speaker 1: No, dude, I would say, Also, they're just people in 2061 01:38:07,479 --> 01:38:13,120 Speaker 1: this world who take principled, calculated risks, and there are 2062 01:38:13,120 --> 01:38:15,200 Speaker 1: people who are just too chicken shit to do stuff 2063 01:38:15,200 --> 01:38:17,040 Speaker 1: like that. And when I say that, you know, not 2064 01:38:17,160 --> 01:38:19,320 Speaker 1: every risk is worth taking. Of course, I'm talking about 2065 01:38:19,360 --> 01:38:21,880 Speaker 1: the principled ones where like to the point, like virtue 2066 01:38:21,920 --> 01:38:26,679 Speaker 1: is is its own reward. You know, if you believe 2067 01:38:26,680 --> 01:38:29,240 Speaker 1: in your principles, it doesn't mean you're necessarily going to 2068 01:38:29,280 --> 01:38:35,639 Speaker 1: be rewarded with riches or fanfare or whatever. You may 2069 01:38:35,680 --> 01:38:37,800 Speaker 1: not be. It's really not the point. That's not what 2070 01:38:37,840 --> 01:38:39,599 Speaker 1: you're necessarily trying to get. I do think he's trying 2071 01:38:39,640 --> 01:38:41,479 Speaker 1: to make money out of this deal, but I hope 2072 01:38:41,479 --> 01:38:45,120 Speaker 1: everyone understands remember me telling you this right now. Tomorrow, 2073 01:38:45,120 --> 01:38:47,560 Speaker 1: after that news comes out, there's going to be an absolute, 2074 01:38:48,120 --> 01:38:51,479 Speaker 1: you know, chorus of folks taking a dump on it. 2075 01:38:51,520 --> 01:38:53,479 Speaker 1: When the first fight gets announced that it's going to happen, 2076 01:38:53,560 --> 01:38:56,360 Speaker 1: After the next fight happens, it's gonna happen. There's gonna 2077 01:38:56,360 --> 01:38:59,200 Speaker 1: be people at every stage of this trying to tear 2078 01:38:59,240 --> 01:39:04,439 Speaker 1: down what France is doing because Francis is disrupting, you know, 2079 01:39:04,520 --> 01:39:08,320 Speaker 1: a very difficult, tightly controlled industry, and you know you're 2080 01:39:08,320 --> 01:39:10,160 Speaker 1: not going to get applause for that. You're gonna get 2081 01:39:11,040 --> 01:39:14,200 Speaker 1: You're gonna get everything. But that so, just just so 2082 01:39:14,280 --> 01:39:19,360 Speaker 1: everyone knows, that's gonna happen tomorrow, Okay, BC Question number 2083 01:39:19,360 --> 01:39:23,360 Speaker 1: three here from Jimmy Underscore read, is Carlos Olberg ready 2084 01:39:23,400 --> 01:39:26,599 Speaker 1: for a top fifteen opponent? Good question. 2085 01:39:28,439 --> 01:39:30,880 Speaker 2: That was a very nice stoppage win Luke he had 2086 01:39:30,880 --> 01:39:32,080 Speaker 2: over ehorre Botaria. 2087 01:39:33,080 --> 01:39:36,400 Speaker 1: The answer is yes, he absolutely is. Yes, I completely 2088 01:39:36,600 --> 01:39:38,880 Speaker 1: again another guy I was like I have I mean, 2089 01:39:38,920 --> 01:39:41,200 Speaker 1: he'd had I think the one loss or whatever, but 2090 01:39:41,880 --> 01:39:43,840 Speaker 1: in general I've been like, he's looking better and better 2091 01:39:43,880 --> 01:39:46,400 Speaker 1: and better in terms of his performances. And uh, I 2092 01:39:46,439 --> 01:39:47,960 Speaker 1: was like, Okay, let's see what he can do here, 2093 01:39:48,000 --> 01:39:51,679 Speaker 1: and he just mowed through this guy. Yeah, sure, absolutely, 2094 01:39:51,800 --> 01:39:53,360 Speaker 1: Let's give this guy a real test. For sure. 2095 01:39:53,400 --> 01:39:56,600 Speaker 2: His loan UFC defeat was a second round knockout in 2096 01:39:56,600 --> 01:40:00,280 Speaker 2: his official debut against Kennedy and Zek Drew, who is 2097 01:40:00,320 --> 01:40:02,479 Speaker 2: also on a nice rise of his own. Would I 2098 01:40:02,520 --> 01:40:04,840 Speaker 2: like to see those two in a rematch against one another? 2099 01:40:05,000 --> 01:40:08,680 Speaker 2: Or am I booking too many rematches? Luke out of 2100 01:40:08,840 --> 01:40:09,200 Speaker 2: You know. 2101 01:40:09,200 --> 01:40:11,960 Speaker 1: No one loves rematches and retres quite like you. Again, 2102 01:40:11,960 --> 01:40:13,120 Speaker 1: I understand now, Yeah. 2103 01:40:12,920 --> 01:40:15,920 Speaker 2: I just I drafted too much wealth and I screwed 2104 01:40:16,000 --> 01:40:18,519 Speaker 2: up the mechanisms. Maybe I'm not ready for the war room, 2105 01:40:18,520 --> 01:40:19,720 Speaker 2: but UFC, maybe I'm not. 2106 01:40:19,880 --> 01:40:22,040 Speaker 1: I will say this, I'd be interested in seeing that fight, 2107 01:40:22,120 --> 01:40:25,439 Speaker 1: but I still think both guys are kind of developing 2108 01:40:25,439 --> 01:40:27,680 Speaker 1: into the best version of themselves. Let's see it when 2109 01:40:27,720 --> 01:40:30,160 Speaker 1: that's a little bit more advanced. So I do actually 2110 01:40:30,200 --> 01:40:32,240 Speaker 1: like the idea. Let's put pause in that for like 2111 01:40:32,400 --> 01:40:34,639 Speaker 1: maybe another year or something like that. 2112 01:40:34,680 --> 01:40:38,839 Speaker 2: But I I think Olberg tore up the local swipe 2113 01:40:38,880 --> 01:40:40,400 Speaker 2: scene in Charlotte after the fight. 2114 01:40:42,280 --> 01:40:45,840 Speaker 1: Again, I'm gonna imagine that his DM's look approximately the 2115 01:40:45,880 --> 01:40:48,840 Speaker 1: opposite of yours in mine. You know, chefcaz may or 2116 01:40:48,840 --> 01:40:50,800 Speaker 1: may not be in his dimensions, but other than that, 2117 01:40:51,640 --> 01:40:53,439 Speaker 1: there's no similarities, you know, what I'm saying. 2118 01:40:53,560 --> 01:40:56,680 Speaker 2: I can't wait till Chef Caaz will ties you up 2119 01:40:56,720 --> 01:40:59,200 Speaker 2: and then you know those those weird blinking balls he 2120 01:40:59,240 --> 01:41:01,000 Speaker 2: puts all over his and look, I'd liked him to 2121 01:41:01,000 --> 01:41:02,840 Speaker 2: put that over your dude. 2122 01:41:03,680 --> 01:41:08,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, did you ever did you ever watch the old 2123 01:41:08,120 --> 01:41:10,479 Speaker 1: Charlie Murphy's stories with the green screen that he told 2124 01:41:10,479 --> 01:41:12,360 Speaker 1: about Eddie. It's what that's famously, it's where the one 2125 01:41:12,400 --> 01:41:14,880 Speaker 1: where the Rick James thing comes from. He told a 2126 01:41:14,920 --> 01:41:18,680 Speaker 1: story about Eddie Murphy that if you didn't live through 2127 01:41:18,680 --> 01:41:20,880 Speaker 1: the eighties in the nineties, it's hard to explain how 2128 01:41:20,920 --> 01:41:25,439 Speaker 1: popular Eddie Murphy is. Like, you know, maybe Joe Rogan 2129 01:41:25,560 --> 01:41:27,720 Speaker 1: is the equivalent in terms of like which comedian is 2130 01:41:27,760 --> 01:41:29,960 Speaker 1: the most popular, But it was strictly for his comedy 2131 01:41:30,000 --> 01:41:32,160 Speaker 1: and like his movies and Saturday Night Live, and had 2132 01:41:32,160 --> 01:41:33,800 Speaker 1: nothing to do with anything else, right, It was just 2133 01:41:33,840 --> 01:41:37,960 Speaker 1: for that he was enormously popular. And Charlie Murphy Rest 2134 01:41:37,960 --> 01:41:39,920 Speaker 1: in Peace, made a story to a story about him that, 2135 01:41:40,000 --> 01:41:41,640 Speaker 1: like you know, he would go to clubs in the 2136 01:41:41,680 --> 01:41:44,080 Speaker 1: eighties and like dudes in the club would get real 2137 01:41:44,120 --> 01:41:46,559 Speaker 1: fucking mad at him because he would walk in, do 2138 01:41:46,680 --> 01:41:49,880 Speaker 1: a lap and leave and in Charlie Murphy's words, he 2139 01:41:49,920 --> 01:41:52,559 Speaker 1: would drain the club. He would drain it. All the 2140 01:41:52,560 --> 01:41:54,200 Speaker 1: women would leave and want to go with Eddie to 2141 01:41:54,200 --> 01:41:56,320 Speaker 1: wherever he's going. All the rest of the dudes would 2142 01:41:56,320 --> 01:41:58,240 Speaker 1: get real pissed about it. And he one time said, 2143 01:41:58,280 --> 01:42:00,680 Speaker 1: like Charlie Wood, security and firebrookes out about it and 2144 01:42:01,040 --> 01:42:04,880 Speaker 1: blah blah blah, and uh, I bet that's what Carlos 2145 01:42:04,920 --> 01:42:08,519 Speaker 1: Olberg does. I bet he walks in, does a lap 2146 01:42:08,560 --> 01:42:11,280 Speaker 1: and then just fucking drains it on his way out. 2147 01:42:11,320 --> 01:42:11,800 Speaker 1: You know what I mean. 2148 01:42:12,400 --> 01:42:15,600 Speaker 2: He's draining it, Luke, He's definitely draining and I believe that, 2149 01:42:15,680 --> 01:42:16,080 Speaker 2: all right? 2150 01:42:16,120 --> 01:42:23,080 Speaker 1: All right? From Saint John underscore c a how excited 2151 01:42:23,160 --> 01:42:26,400 Speaker 1: for the Ultimate Fighter Connor versus Chandler. I guess he's saying, 2152 01:42:26,600 --> 01:42:28,960 Speaker 1: are we you know you will have to cover it, 2153 01:42:29,040 --> 01:42:31,280 Speaker 1: so you may as well just watch? Quite incorrect. I 2154 01:42:31,280 --> 01:42:33,840 Speaker 1: actually don't have to cover it, and I'm not gonna watch, 2155 01:42:34,400 --> 01:42:35,280 Speaker 1: so I will watch. 2156 01:42:35,320 --> 01:42:38,759 Speaker 2: I've only previously watched Luke the heavyweight season when Rampage 2157 01:42:38,760 --> 01:42:41,519 Speaker 2: broke the door, and the strawweight season. 2158 01:42:42,760 --> 01:42:44,760 Speaker 1: Jesus, you've missed a lot oh in. 2159 01:42:44,720 --> 01:42:48,240 Speaker 2: The first season, of course, the first season, so I'm 2160 01:42:48,240 --> 01:42:50,200 Speaker 2: gonna come back for this. I like the the little 2161 01:42:50,200 --> 01:42:53,280 Speaker 2: teaser video of the two shoving each other, the trash talk. 2162 01:42:53,560 --> 01:42:55,559 Speaker 2: I'm not expecting a ton, but I want to get 2163 01:42:55,600 --> 01:42:58,840 Speaker 2: pumped for the fight. My only question here, and not 2164 01:42:58,840 --> 01:43:02,400 Speaker 2: not just related to McGregor's potentially you saw a six 2165 01:43:02,479 --> 01:43:05,519 Speaker 2: month window, which I'm sure though just after the facts 2166 01:43:05,520 --> 01:43:07,240 Speaker 2: say that he already did it last year and we're 2167 01:43:07,240 --> 01:43:11,160 Speaker 2: all good. They said UFC over the weekend that they 2168 01:43:11,240 --> 01:43:15,240 Speaker 2: hope to negotiate this and sign a date for them 2169 01:43:15,280 --> 01:43:19,080 Speaker 2: to fight by the end of this season. In terms 2170 01:43:19,120 --> 01:43:21,760 Speaker 2: of the air dates, how do you sign these two 2171 01:43:21,880 --> 01:43:25,160 Speaker 2: up film the entire reality show and not how already 2172 01:43:25,160 --> 01:43:26,920 Speaker 2: have a deal for when they're gonna fight. Does that 2173 01:43:26,960 --> 01:43:27,559 Speaker 2: make any sense? 2174 01:43:29,680 --> 01:43:32,800 Speaker 1: It does if you are constantly, you know, running from 2175 01:43:32,800 --> 01:43:34,000 Speaker 1: one deadline to the next. 2176 01:43:34,040 --> 01:43:34,120 Speaker 2: Thing. 2177 01:43:34,200 --> 01:43:36,160 Speaker 1: You just got to meet demand without being able to 2178 01:43:36,160 --> 01:43:38,280 Speaker 1: do everything else. I mean, that's again, like it's not 2179 01:43:38,360 --> 01:43:41,160 Speaker 1: quite like boxing, which yeah, they have schedules and promoters 2180 01:43:41,160 --> 01:43:43,360 Speaker 1: have stuff they want to do on a timeline, of course, 2181 01:43:43,800 --> 01:43:46,280 Speaker 1: but it's not so aggressive and they don't have so 2182 01:43:46,400 --> 01:43:50,200 Speaker 1: many different masters to serve do UFC has so much 2183 01:43:50,240 --> 01:43:52,960 Speaker 1: content that they owe to so many partners. They just 2184 01:43:53,000 --> 01:43:54,559 Speaker 1: got to get it going, they got to put it together. 2185 01:43:54,600 --> 01:43:57,400 Speaker 1: So actually it makes a complaine, I mean to your point, like, 2186 01:43:57,439 --> 01:43:58,920 Speaker 1: why would the why the fuck would you do that 2187 01:43:58,960 --> 01:44:00,400 Speaker 1: if you didn't have a fight sign. That's how it 2188 01:44:00,439 --> 01:44:02,200 Speaker 1: should be done. But I think the UFC is just 2189 01:44:02,280 --> 01:44:04,880 Speaker 1: running as fast as they can to fill these obligations 2190 01:44:04,880 --> 01:44:07,040 Speaker 1: because it's so tough to do it, and they ended up. 2191 01:44:07,040 --> 01:44:09,040 Speaker 2: Do you think they had an internal meeting where they're like, 2192 01:44:09,120 --> 01:44:11,320 Speaker 2: let's just get through the second slap pay per view 2193 01:44:11,439 --> 01:44:13,519 Speaker 2: on the twenty on the at the end of May, 2194 01:44:13,520 --> 01:44:14,840 Speaker 2: and then we'll figure out after that. 2195 01:44:16,160 --> 01:44:18,920 Speaker 1: Again, I need evidence to conclude that, but you're asking 2196 01:44:18,920 --> 01:44:20,800 Speaker 1: me my hunch. I have a hunch that slap is 2197 01:44:20,840 --> 01:44:23,880 Speaker 1: taking up a little more bandwidth than it probably should have. 2198 01:44:25,000 --> 01:44:28,679 Speaker 1: Keep that in mind, all right, BC from lastly Triple 2199 01:44:28,760 --> 01:44:32,599 Speaker 1: A one zero one seven, just the fucking worst name. 2200 01:44:33,240 --> 01:44:35,240 Speaker 1: Does anyone else find it a bit a good question, 2201 01:44:35,360 --> 01:44:39,639 Speaker 1: a bit unprofessional that Dom Cruise just continues to talk 2202 01:44:39,760 --> 01:44:43,519 Speaker 1: shit about Keith Peterson, the referee in question, even from 2203 01:44:43,520 --> 01:44:45,439 Speaker 1: the broadcast position. You seelen me sit the table here. 2204 01:44:45,479 --> 01:44:48,320 Speaker 1: He did it two times once in the Alberg fight 2205 01:44:48,400 --> 01:44:51,759 Speaker 1: because Alberg is beaten up on Potieria and then gets 2206 01:44:51,840 --> 01:44:56,200 Speaker 1: up before the referee intervenes. The referee doesn't intervene Oulberg 2207 01:44:56,240 --> 01:44:58,439 Speaker 1: goes to get back on him, and then Keith Peterson 2208 01:44:58,520 --> 01:45:02,479 Speaker 1: jumped in, So again not Keith Peterson's best officiating, although 2209 01:45:02,520 --> 01:45:04,920 Speaker 1: Allberg kind of did it for him, so that's weird. 2210 01:45:04,960 --> 01:45:10,400 Speaker 1: And then also I believe in the what other fight 2211 01:45:10,560 --> 01:45:12,960 Speaker 1: was it the on was it the Douglas. 2212 01:45:13,360 --> 01:45:17,960 Speaker 2: Fight where annex said that Peterson and another referee will 2213 01:45:17,960 --> 01:45:20,400 Speaker 2: be handling six of the final eight fights, and then 2214 01:45:20,439 --> 01:45:22,000 Speaker 2: that's where domin dog gets. 2215 01:45:22,040 --> 01:45:24,080 Speaker 1: That was during the Silva the Silva Day on Drog fight, So, 2216 01:45:24,160 --> 01:45:28,000 Speaker 1: in other words, in multiple fights, he was airing these grievances. 2217 01:45:28,000 --> 01:45:28,679 Speaker 1: What do you think. 2218 01:45:30,080 --> 01:45:32,800 Speaker 2: Because I like Dom's personality, and maybe because I don't 2219 01:45:32,800 --> 01:45:35,839 Speaker 2: want this joke of what he Peterson smells like to die, 2220 01:45:36,160 --> 01:45:39,960 Speaker 2: could we give him one comedic reference per broadcast where 2221 01:45:40,000 --> 01:45:43,400 Speaker 2: he's like, oh great, maybe, but no, I did feel 2222 01:45:43,400 --> 01:45:45,639 Speaker 2: like this was on top of the piling on top 2223 01:45:45,640 --> 01:45:49,360 Speaker 2: of each other. And then the constant complaining after that 2224 01:45:49,479 --> 01:45:51,600 Speaker 2: stoppage of about it happened to me, it happened to 2225 01:45:51,600 --> 01:45:54,320 Speaker 2: me feels a little bit too one on one grudgey. 2226 01:45:54,439 --> 01:45:56,280 Speaker 2: I mean, they don't let Dan Hardy show up anymore 2227 01:45:56,320 --> 01:45:59,840 Speaker 2: at the APEX and talk about herb Dean, right, So, uh, 2228 01:46:00,400 --> 01:46:02,639 Speaker 2: I would think that that is something that they talked about. 2229 01:46:02,680 --> 01:46:05,360 Speaker 2: I think it felt like it went a little too far, Luke. 2230 01:46:05,400 --> 01:46:08,280 Speaker 2: And look, I say that because I love Don Cruse 2231 01:46:08,320 --> 01:46:10,760 Speaker 2: as announcer. I think Dom Cruse should be the pay 2232 01:46:10,800 --> 01:46:14,200 Speaker 2: per view announcer default along with DC and Anik. I 2233 01:46:14,240 --> 01:46:16,679 Speaker 2: think that's their best team. And that's just my personal take. 2234 01:46:17,439 --> 01:46:19,920 Speaker 2: But yeah, Luke, I would like to kind of nip 2235 01:46:19,960 --> 01:46:23,000 Speaker 2: that in the bud in terms of, you know, I. 2236 01:46:22,960 --> 01:46:25,479 Speaker 1: Have a slightly different view of it, which is to 2237 01:46:25,479 --> 01:46:28,800 Speaker 1: say the following. I don't agree with Don Cruse at all. 2238 01:46:28,880 --> 01:46:31,519 Speaker 1: I thought the stoppage in the fight with Henry Sejudo 2239 01:46:31,680 --> 01:46:36,639 Speaker 1: was justified. I thought at least no fine, basically not great, 2240 01:46:36,680 --> 01:46:39,840 Speaker 1: but fine. And in general, I think Peterson is an 2241 01:46:39,840 --> 01:46:44,040 Speaker 1: excellent referee. And also I don't want to keep hearing 2242 01:46:44,320 --> 01:46:46,599 Speaker 1: Dom Cruse complain about it. Let me put that up front. 2243 01:46:46,720 --> 01:46:50,639 Speaker 1: I understand Dom Cruse disagrees, and I understand that he 2244 01:46:50,800 --> 01:46:52,320 Speaker 1: is really upset about it, and I don't want to 2245 01:46:52,360 --> 01:46:55,639 Speaker 1: keep hearing about it. But but I'll say this BC, 2246 01:46:56,520 --> 01:47:01,360 Speaker 1: these fighters do not have any capacity to challenge anything 2247 01:47:01,400 --> 01:47:04,599 Speaker 1: that is basically unfair that the Commission does at least 2248 01:47:04,640 --> 01:47:08,080 Speaker 1: perceive to be unfair in a better, more just and frankly, 2249 01:47:08,160 --> 01:47:11,800 Speaker 1: let's be honest, sane world, Domina Cruz would have had 2250 01:47:11,800 --> 01:47:14,840 Speaker 1: the opportunity to have that challenged in whatever mechanism that 2251 01:47:14,880 --> 01:47:17,120 Speaker 1: would be in place, and probably would not have one. 2252 01:47:17,240 --> 01:47:19,080 Speaker 1: On the merits of it. He probably would have lost, 2253 01:47:19,360 --> 01:47:22,040 Speaker 1: but at least he would have had some kind of 2254 01:47:22,200 --> 01:47:27,599 Speaker 1: dutiful procedure. He has and all these fighters have nothing 2255 01:47:27,720 --> 01:47:30,679 Speaker 1: going back to the ismairel ismaiel but also fight again. 2256 01:47:30,720 --> 01:47:33,360 Speaker 1: That's a much more egregious, very different kind of scenario 2257 01:47:33,400 --> 01:47:35,320 Speaker 1: for in a lot of ways, but it's the same 2258 01:47:35,400 --> 01:47:40,799 Speaker 1: principle involved. These guys get it sometimes treated very poorly, 2259 01:47:41,240 --> 01:47:45,320 Speaker 1: very unfairly, and they have not one means to do 2260 01:47:45,400 --> 01:47:49,400 Speaker 1: anything about it other than what he is doing, which 2261 01:47:49,439 --> 01:47:52,040 Speaker 1: is complaining. So I don't love it, but I gotta 2262 01:47:52,120 --> 01:47:54,439 Speaker 1: be honest with you as long as we're gonna tell 2263 01:47:54,520 --> 01:47:58,679 Speaker 1: fighters when a referee or a judge or whoever fucks 2264 01:47:58,760 --> 01:48:00,200 Speaker 1: up or does something that is at least at a 2265 01:48:00,240 --> 01:48:04,559 Speaker 1: bare minimum questionable. You can't do anything about that because again, 2266 01:48:04,960 --> 01:48:08,439 Speaker 1: we're up here and you're down there, They're gonna resort 2267 01:48:08,479 --> 01:48:11,360 Speaker 1: to stuff like this. Let's have a better system in 2268 01:48:11,400 --> 01:48:13,479 Speaker 1: place to adjudicate some of these needs. 2269 01:48:13,920 --> 01:48:17,200 Speaker 2: But pure false. Did Dana White and Steve Mazugatti's refughing 2270 01:48:17,200 --> 01:48:18,840 Speaker 2: career by publicly complaining it to him? 2271 01:48:19,400 --> 01:48:21,559 Speaker 1: Yeah, but look how much he had to do it, like, 2272 01:48:21,640 --> 01:48:24,200 Speaker 1: he had to do it a shitload before they ever 2273 01:48:24,360 --> 01:48:27,040 Speaker 1: moved on it. Keith Kaiser didn't care at all for 2274 01:48:27,120 --> 01:48:30,360 Speaker 1: a long periods of time. So like, you know, again, 2275 01:48:30,439 --> 01:48:31,440 Speaker 1: I don't. 2276 01:48:31,360 --> 01:48:34,439 Speaker 2: I don't threatened he threatened to move out of Vegas. 2277 01:48:34,920 --> 01:48:39,479 Speaker 1: Maybe I's I mean, I don't know. I doubt it. 2278 01:48:39,600 --> 01:48:40,960 Speaker 1: I doubt it. I doubt it. 2279 01:48:41,200 --> 01:48:43,519 Speaker 2: I'm just trying to see Taichi Palace get paid back 2280 01:48:43,600 --> 01:48:45,320 Speaker 2: one time, Luke, That's all I'm trying to see it. 2281 01:48:45,720 --> 01:48:49,680 Speaker 1: Once you understand my position. Liked the fighters, like when 2282 01:48:49,720 --> 01:48:53,120 Speaker 1: they speak out against raising fighter pay. It blows my 2283 01:48:53,160 --> 01:48:55,280 Speaker 1: fucking mind that they do stuff like that. But okay, 2284 01:48:55,400 --> 01:48:57,639 Speaker 1: you know whatever fight that baut a little bit separately, 2285 01:48:58,000 --> 01:48:59,960 Speaker 1: but it just does it not dawn on any one 2286 01:49:00,080 --> 01:49:04,200 Speaker 1: on how fucking abused by the industry they are, whether 2287 01:49:04,200 --> 01:49:08,040 Speaker 1: it's you know, in boxing or MMA, fucked up sponsors 2288 01:49:08,080 --> 01:49:11,960 Speaker 1: in bad promoter contracts, And then the Commission has no 2289 01:49:12,080 --> 01:49:16,840 Speaker 1: mechanism by which they humbly state like their essential worldview 2290 01:49:16,920 --> 01:49:19,880 Speaker 1: is we are either right or we're not, but we 2291 01:49:20,040 --> 01:49:23,679 Speaker 1: are basically because we're in control. That's just the default position. 2292 01:49:23,800 --> 01:49:25,920 Speaker 1: You can like it or you cannot like it. Move 2293 01:49:25,960 --> 01:49:29,720 Speaker 1: the fuck on like, No Wonder fighters speak out like this, 2294 01:49:29,840 --> 01:49:32,559 Speaker 1: No Wonder media members speak out like this. They don't 2295 01:49:32,640 --> 01:49:36,720 Speaker 1: ever open themselves up to any sense of fairness, so 2296 01:49:36,800 --> 01:49:39,120 Speaker 1: then they just get this. So do I honestly do 2297 01:49:39,200 --> 01:49:43,559 Speaker 1: I feel like bad for Keith Peterson? I guess on 2298 01:49:43,600 --> 01:49:45,040 Speaker 1: some level I do, because I don't. I think on 2299 01:49:45,080 --> 01:49:48,720 Speaker 1: the merits he's right. But I understand Dom's frustration as 2300 01:49:48,760 --> 01:49:50,519 Speaker 1: best I can from this distance, and I gotta tell 2301 01:49:50,560 --> 01:49:51,960 Speaker 1: you I get that too. 2302 01:49:52,640 --> 01:49:55,200 Speaker 2: George Falls. When I asked him on Friday, Ray Longo 2303 01:49:55,240 --> 01:49:59,160 Speaker 2: said that Keith Peterson actually smells like cigarettes, not boos, 2304 01:49:59,200 --> 01:50:00,000 Speaker 2: not cheap women. 2305 01:50:00,479 --> 01:50:03,640 Speaker 1: He did he did say that, yes he did. He 2306 01:50:03,680 --> 01:50:04,519 Speaker 1: smokes apparently. 2307 01:50:04,760 --> 01:50:06,400 Speaker 2: I'd like to believe it's more of a mixture of 2308 01:50:06,479 --> 01:50:10,160 Speaker 2: like Deli meat hookers, Like that's what. That's how I imagine 2309 01:50:10,080 --> 01:50:11,800 Speaker 2: Keith Peterson just one time. 2310 01:50:11,840 --> 01:50:14,559 Speaker 1: I want him to say, now is the time for 2311 01:50:14,600 --> 01:50:18,320 Speaker 1: me to rise to my feet before he tells fighters 2312 01:50:18,360 --> 01:50:20,000 Speaker 1: to go back to their corners, because he does sound 2313 01:50:20,040 --> 01:50:22,639 Speaker 1: like Jamie Josta a little bit from Hate Breath when 2314 01:50:22,640 --> 01:50:23,799 Speaker 1: he does when he talks. 2315 01:50:23,840 --> 01:50:26,960 Speaker 2: Not a reference that's coming through my windows anytime soon, Luke, 2316 01:50:27,120 --> 01:50:28,320 Speaker 2: can we talk about shit now? 2317 01:50:28,640 --> 01:50:30,519 Speaker 1: Hey, it's time for BC's species hit it, my friend? 2318 01:50:30,560 --> 01:50:32,640 Speaker 2: All right, I scolared the globe yesterday for the good, 2319 01:50:32,680 --> 01:50:34,920 Speaker 2: the bad, the ugly, the high lows in between. From 2320 01:50:34,960 --> 01:50:37,280 Speaker 2: the worlds of combat sports and beyond. We call this. 2321 01:50:37,439 --> 01:50:38,160 Speaker 2: Have you seen? 2322 01:50:39,880 --> 01:50:40,160 Speaker 1: Yes? 2323 01:50:43,080 --> 01:50:43,799 Speaker 2: Oh god? 2324 01:50:44,040 --> 01:50:46,479 Speaker 1: All right, you know what. You've been hyping up this 2325 01:50:46,560 --> 01:50:48,360 Speaker 1: segment a little bit and they've not been bad. 2326 01:50:48,560 --> 01:50:51,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, this week's not great, but last week was great. 2327 01:50:51,640 --> 01:50:53,639 Speaker 1: Last week was Okay, Luke. 2328 01:50:53,600 --> 01:50:56,880 Speaker 2: One day you'll realize that it's not actually the breath 2329 01:50:56,920 --> 01:51:00,320 Speaker 2: of my material that makes this segment great. It's the 2330 01:51:00,360 --> 01:51:04,080 Speaker 2: willingness of your participation that's the key. 2331 01:51:04,760 --> 01:51:05,040 Speaker 3: Right. 2332 01:51:06,600 --> 01:51:09,760 Speaker 1: I do agree that the willingness of my participation can 2333 01:51:09,760 --> 01:51:14,160 Speaker 1: make or break how she feels the whole show. Okay, okay, okay, 2334 01:51:14,160 --> 01:51:17,160 Speaker 1: fair enough, fair enough, but it's not true that if 2335 01:51:17,200 --> 01:51:21,760 Speaker 1: you don't like you also sometimes turn in not enough 2336 01:51:21,760 --> 01:51:24,880 Speaker 1: elder abuse and not enough guys getting put in marijuana 2337 01:51:24,920 --> 01:51:27,760 Speaker 1: coffins or the kinds of things that get me to pop. 2338 01:51:27,800 --> 01:51:28,320 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. 2339 01:51:28,320 --> 01:51:30,120 Speaker 2: All Right, All right, let's see if you like this 2340 01:51:30,240 --> 01:51:32,320 Speaker 2: you have see Charlotte is where we start? Hey, Luke, 2341 01:51:32,479 --> 01:51:36,479 Speaker 2: Brian Battle and Gabriel Green gave us an amazing fourteen 2342 01:51:36,520 --> 01:51:38,960 Speaker 2: seconds of caveman fighting to start this fight off. 2343 01:51:39,160 --> 01:51:41,360 Speaker 1: Why he just gets in his face and doesn't move 2344 01:51:41,560 --> 01:51:42,960 Speaker 1: and uh, that's it. 2345 01:51:43,520 --> 01:51:46,360 Speaker 2: That looked a lot like Brunton versus Whittaker. Yeah, that's 2346 01:51:46,479 --> 01:51:47,479 Speaker 2: just like damn. 2347 01:51:47,640 --> 01:51:51,040 Speaker 1: He just he just stands right in there and just 2348 01:51:51,160 --> 01:51:53,360 Speaker 1: pays for it. I mean, I wants to say. 2349 01:51:53,320 --> 01:51:55,920 Speaker 2: Did you like Brian Battle's emotional post fight speech where 2350 01:51:55,920 --> 01:51:58,720 Speaker 2: he said I'm made of Charlotte, Charlotte is in me? 2351 01:51:58,840 --> 01:52:01,160 Speaker 2: Basically he loved it. He loved being homemar. 2352 01:52:01,240 --> 01:52:03,160 Speaker 1: Right, I actually did not hear the post fight speech. 2353 01:52:03,400 --> 01:52:05,360 Speaker 2: All right, Well, hey, look, real surprise this week I 2354 01:52:05,400 --> 01:52:07,519 Speaker 2: went four and one in okay, bed who would have 2355 01:52:07,520 --> 01:52:08,240 Speaker 2: saw that come in? 2356 01:52:08,320 --> 01:52:08,439 Speaker 3: Hey? 2357 01:52:09,080 --> 01:52:11,679 Speaker 2: And the big winner was forty two year old Matt 2358 01:52:11,760 --> 01:52:15,679 Speaker 2: Brown who delivered the thunder on Core mcke Damn. 2359 01:52:16,439 --> 01:52:18,720 Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, man again, this is an obvious thing. 2360 01:52:18,760 --> 01:52:20,400 Speaker 1: I say it all the time, but there is a 2361 01:52:20,560 --> 01:52:24,479 Speaker 1: growing gap between the guys who can slip punches and 2362 01:52:24,600 --> 01:52:27,000 Speaker 1: counter at the same time. And watch him, he sees 2363 01:52:27,040 --> 01:52:29,839 Speaker 1: him coming, moves his head off the center line because 2364 01:52:30,120 --> 01:52:33,200 Speaker 1: McGhee's punch goes past his right ear and he just 2365 01:52:33,280 --> 01:52:36,639 Speaker 1: moves right into the right hand. Dude, fucking Matt Brown 2366 01:52:37,280 --> 01:52:41,920 Speaker 1: is an absolute legend. Forty two years old. He's got 2367 01:52:42,040 --> 01:52:45,959 Speaker 1: gray on his scalp, and yet he's still taking scalps. 2368 01:52:46,000 --> 01:52:47,920 Speaker 1: God bless this fine American. 2369 01:52:48,040 --> 01:52:49,760 Speaker 2: What do you think of his speech afterwards, where he 2370 01:52:49,800 --> 01:52:53,559 Speaker 2: said the worst thirty seconds in this sport is the 2371 01:52:53,600 --> 01:52:55,519 Speaker 2: fact that I know, in thirty seconds I'll be walking 2372 01:52:55,520 --> 01:52:57,000 Speaker 2: out of this cage, or something to that regard. He's 2373 01:52:57,000 --> 01:52:59,080 Speaker 2: basically trying to say that he loves being in there 2374 01:52:59,200 --> 01:53:02,800 Speaker 2: so much, Luke, that leaving the cage is heartbreak. 2375 01:53:03,280 --> 01:53:07,519 Speaker 1: I believe every word of that and every piece of 2376 01:53:07,520 --> 01:53:10,479 Speaker 1: emotion that goes into that. I think he is telling 2377 01:53:10,520 --> 01:53:13,000 Speaker 1: the truth and we are lucky for it. 2378 01:53:13,360 --> 01:53:15,599 Speaker 2: Well, Luke. Johnny Walker was here over the weekend, which 2379 01:53:15,600 --> 01:53:18,200 Speaker 2: means we get creepy dancing at the prep point. Let's 2380 01:53:18,200 --> 01:53:19,040 Speaker 2: listen to the announcers. 2381 01:53:19,040 --> 01:53:21,800 Speaker 1: Break, dude, he can't stop job, I mean, please stop 2382 01:53:21,840 --> 01:53:23,559 Speaker 1: doing that in front of it. Like the guy who's 2383 01:53:23,680 --> 01:53:27,240 Speaker 1: just trying to put look at I think the guy 2384 01:53:27,280 --> 01:53:29,120 Speaker 1: putting the vast lead on it was like, please just 2385 01:53:29,160 --> 01:53:30,400 Speaker 1: don't do that in front of me. 2386 01:53:30,520 --> 01:53:33,840 Speaker 2: Like I guess we don't have audio, but the announcers 2387 01:53:33,840 --> 01:53:36,640 Speaker 2: were like, oh my god, like, yeah, I mean this 2388 01:53:36,720 --> 01:53:38,719 Speaker 2: guy gets we We did hear from Paul. 2389 01:53:38,960 --> 01:53:40,040 Speaker 1: And he's a good dancer. 2390 01:53:40,080 --> 01:53:51,800 Speaker 2: Oh my god, this guy okay, my words wild. Yeah. 2391 01:53:51,880 --> 01:53:54,000 Speaker 2: Laura segles like, that's a little bit too much. But Luke, 2392 01:53:54,240 --> 01:53:57,519 Speaker 2: Paul Craig did tell us that this guy has has 2393 01:53:57,640 --> 01:53:59,479 Speaker 2: infiltrated Ireland, right. 2394 01:53:59,760 --> 01:54:01,559 Speaker 1: I'm I think I think what he said was he 2395 01:54:01,560 --> 01:54:04,160 Speaker 1: basically fucked his way through Scotland, so God bless him. 2396 01:54:04,160 --> 01:54:06,280 Speaker 1: You know again, you go another man who's DM is 2397 01:54:06,320 --> 01:54:07,719 Speaker 1: probably very unlike mine. 2398 01:54:07,960 --> 01:54:10,120 Speaker 2: Well, that was an interesting dance. How about Johnson all 2399 01:54:10,120 --> 01:54:19,599 Speaker 2: made us victory dance? Luke, you like this a little 2400 01:54:19,600 --> 01:54:21,599 Speaker 2: tiktoki there at the end, But you know that's fine, 2401 01:54:21,680 --> 01:54:22,240 Speaker 2: that's fine. 2402 01:54:22,439 --> 01:54:25,000 Speaker 1: I don't know what this dance is called but I 2403 01:54:25,040 --> 01:54:26,760 Speaker 1: hate it all right? 2404 01:54:27,200 --> 01:54:30,599 Speaker 2: Well, speaking of absolute shit, Luke misfits boxing happened over 2405 01:54:30,640 --> 01:54:31,120 Speaker 2: the weekend. 2406 01:54:31,280 --> 01:54:33,600 Speaker 1: Oh my god, we haven't even talked about that, have we. 2407 01:54:34,680 --> 01:54:37,680 Speaker 2: Hey? You know Anthony Taylor Luke he took on Salt Poppy, 2408 01:54:37,760 --> 01:54:39,640 Speaker 2: but he also took over the mic. Let's listen in. 2409 01:54:41,160 --> 01:54:47,840 Speaker 3: You know, I see it's cit dis guy's the way 2410 01:54:47,960 --> 01:54:56,400 Speaker 3: you treat me. Keep on on to your dance of 2411 01:54:57,360 --> 01:55:01,360 Speaker 3: Jeck shirt, no me day. 2412 01:55:02,320 --> 01:55:04,200 Speaker 1: Where is the Apollo hook when you need it? 2413 01:55:04,520 --> 01:55:07,040 Speaker 2: Yeah? We can end this now. Not only can that 2414 01:55:07,160 --> 01:55:13,600 Speaker 2: man uh mma fight and box, he can also entertain Luke. 2415 01:55:13,640 --> 01:55:16,600 Speaker 2: He would knock out Salt Poppy. 2416 01:55:17,360 --> 01:55:19,600 Speaker 1: As we continue to hear the reverb, there we. 2417 01:55:19,560 --> 01:55:22,080 Speaker 2: Go, there we go? All right? Hey, Tommy Fury was 2418 01:55:22,200 --> 01:55:26,879 Speaker 2: ringside Luke, and there was a fellow named Idris Virgo 2419 01:55:26,960 --> 01:55:29,920 Speaker 2: who also appeared on Love Island, who who wanted to 2420 01:55:29,920 --> 01:55:31,880 Speaker 2: fight old Tommy Fury. You know what they did, They 2421 01:55:31,920 --> 01:55:40,160 Speaker 2: fought Luke. Let's zoom in on this. Look at big 2422 01:55:40,240 --> 01:55:41,760 Speaker 2: John Fury get involved with that goate. 2423 01:55:42,520 --> 01:55:45,320 Speaker 1: I just want to move to an island where electricity 2424 01:55:45,360 --> 01:55:47,920 Speaker 1: and no one else exists and then just live there. 2425 01:55:49,360 --> 01:55:52,360 Speaker 2: Look it Uh. It only got weirder when KSI, in 2426 01:55:52,400 --> 01:55:55,840 Speaker 2: the main event, took on Joe Fournier, that influencer guy. 2427 01:55:56,160 --> 01:55:58,880 Speaker 2: Remember when he boxed David Hay to a cringe. 2428 01:55:58,560 --> 01:56:00,960 Speaker 1: Endin which, by the way, was like the worst boxing 2429 01:56:01,000 --> 01:56:02,200 Speaker 1: match of all time ever. 2430 01:56:02,040 --> 01:56:03,880 Speaker 2: Because they were friends, they didn't want to throw. Well, Luke, 2431 01:56:03,960 --> 01:56:07,840 Speaker 2: let's zoom in here at how this fight actually ended 2432 01:56:07,840 --> 01:56:08,520 Speaker 2: for KSI. 2433 01:56:09,920 --> 01:56:11,880 Speaker 1: So he lands a big ride that actually looked pretty 2434 01:56:11,920 --> 01:56:15,400 Speaker 1: nice and then he by the way, just galloping into 2435 01:56:15,440 --> 01:56:18,440 Speaker 1: position another boxer would make him just absolutely pay for that, 2436 01:56:19,040 --> 01:56:22,920 Speaker 1: and then he just says, you know what, Muay Thai bitch, Luke, 2437 01:56:22,960 --> 01:56:23,520 Speaker 1: I don't. 2438 01:56:23,280 --> 01:56:26,840 Speaker 2: Think forearms are legal even in influencer boxing. But the 2439 01:56:26,840 --> 01:56:28,200 Speaker 2: referee scored this as a KO. 2440 01:56:28,360 --> 01:56:31,640 Speaker 1: Your thoughts, Yeah, I mean, this sport is a I mean, 2441 01:56:31,800 --> 01:56:33,960 Speaker 1: this was not a great a great weekend for the sport. 2442 01:56:34,040 --> 01:56:36,200 Speaker 1: It was amazing, like David Garcia was a was a 2443 01:56:36,240 --> 01:56:39,480 Speaker 1: phenomenal weekend for the sport. This was a this is 2444 01:56:39,520 --> 01:56:42,480 Speaker 1: not part of my sport all right, influence It technically is, 2445 01:56:42,520 --> 01:56:45,040 Speaker 1: though it's the shittier end, but it does count as 2446 01:56:45,080 --> 01:56:47,200 Speaker 1: part of the sport. And the fact that they saw 2447 01:56:47,240 --> 01:56:50,480 Speaker 1: this on the replay and then didn't change. It is 2448 01:56:50,520 --> 01:56:51,720 Speaker 1: just a fuck it. I mean, the whole thing is 2449 01:56:51,720 --> 01:56:54,240 Speaker 1: a joke. I get, but like they did this guy 2450 01:56:54,280 --> 01:56:56,280 Speaker 1: dirty too. I don't have nearly as much sympathy for 2451 01:56:56,360 --> 01:56:57,800 Speaker 1: him as I do for but also but. 2452 01:56:58,000 --> 01:57:01,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, still well Luke, Tommy Fury and KSI then got 2453 01:57:01,480 --> 01:57:03,440 Speaker 2: in the ring afterwards, and it looks like we've got 2454 01:57:03,480 --> 01:57:05,480 Speaker 2: a fight to build to. Are you moved by. 2455 01:57:05,360 --> 01:57:08,760 Speaker 1: This, dude? Kise I? Like, where was this fight? This 2456 01:57:08,800 --> 01:57:12,080 Speaker 1: fight was in London, right, yeah, I think. I mean 2457 01:57:12,800 --> 01:57:15,800 Speaker 1: it looked to me like he pulls a huge crowd. 2458 01:57:16,320 --> 01:57:18,600 Speaker 1: He's popular. I get it, but you know, even then, 2459 01:57:18,640 --> 01:57:21,760 Speaker 1: I'm still kind of amazed at the audiences he can pull. Dude, 2460 01:57:21,760 --> 01:57:24,320 Speaker 1: I think in London that fight, I hate to admit it, 2461 01:57:24,600 --> 01:57:26,200 Speaker 1: I think it'd be huge. Yeah. 2462 01:57:26,200 --> 01:57:29,200 Speaker 2: No, Look, inevitably he's gonna box Jake Paul on his 2463 01:57:29,200 --> 01:57:31,320 Speaker 2: own pay per view in England. It will be a 2464 01:57:31,320 --> 01:57:33,480 Speaker 2: big event, Like it really will be. I don't care 2465 01:57:33,520 --> 01:57:35,880 Speaker 2: about it. But they had some weird trash talk back 2466 01:57:35,920 --> 01:57:38,520 Speaker 2: and forth. Nobody cares. Look, let's get cooking, all right. Hey, 2467 01:57:38,560 --> 01:57:40,560 Speaker 2: look I found you a new cookbook this summer. 2468 01:57:41,760 --> 01:57:45,200 Speaker 1: I wanted to get your thought the anarchistic cookbook close. 2469 01:57:50,800 --> 01:57:54,520 Speaker 2: And Luke, Yeah, you don't have to dig too deep 2470 01:57:54,560 --> 01:57:56,520 Speaker 2: into that to find the first side dish. They call 2471 01:57:56,600 --> 01:57:59,160 Speaker 2: it what do they call that? A cock couterie board. 2472 01:57:59,600 --> 01:58:02,400 Speaker 2: Let's see this charcuterie you mean, oh, I think it's 2473 01:58:02,400 --> 01:58:04,840 Speaker 2: supposed to be charcuterie, but this is now a cock 2474 01:58:04,920 --> 01:58:05,640 Speaker 2: couterie board. 2475 01:58:05,680 --> 01:58:14,520 Speaker 1: Your thoughts, Luke, I'd eat it well with Where did 2476 01:58:14,520 --> 01:58:16,440 Speaker 1: they put at the bell end? They put the nuts 2477 01:58:16,480 --> 01:58:18,200 Speaker 1: at the bell end. They gotta put the nuts at 2478 01:58:18,240 --> 01:58:20,120 Speaker 1: the back end, and then put the keso at the 2479 01:58:20,160 --> 01:58:20,560 Speaker 1: front end. 2480 01:58:20,600 --> 01:58:22,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right. They screwed that up. The balls told 2481 01:58:23,040 --> 01:58:25,680 Speaker 2: the nuts. Yeah there you go. There you go. Uh, Luke. 2482 01:58:25,720 --> 01:58:27,280 Speaker 2: What we need you to do to get into good 2483 01:58:27,280 --> 01:58:29,800 Speaker 2: summer Sison shape is put the vape down. And if 2484 01:58:29,840 --> 01:58:31,960 Speaker 2: you won't listen to me, maybe you'll listen to one 2485 01:58:32,000 --> 01:58:32,640 Speaker 2: of our heroes. 2486 01:58:43,640 --> 01:58:46,200 Speaker 1: I told I told, I told you this on Saturday. 2487 01:58:46,240 --> 01:58:48,880 Speaker 1: It's true. I just did. I haven't even had my 2488 01:58:48,880 --> 01:58:52,160 Speaker 1: first workout yet. I have hired a personal trainer, Yes, 2489 01:58:52,280 --> 01:58:53,200 Speaker 1: hired a personal trainer. 2490 01:58:53,280 --> 01:58:56,760 Speaker 2: Dude, Get serious. Listen to JACKO Get serious, dude. 2491 01:58:56,760 --> 01:58:59,200 Speaker 1: Twenty sixteen. I was I was fairly muscular. I was 2492 01:58:59,240 --> 01:59:01,920 Speaker 1: doing pretty well and everything has gone to shit since then. 2493 01:59:02,160 --> 01:59:04,600 Speaker 1: Yeah uh, And I realize that, and I don't think 2494 01:59:04,600 --> 01:59:06,560 Speaker 1: without outside help I can fix it. So I have 2495 01:59:06,680 --> 01:59:08,680 Speaker 1: hired some outside help. We'll see how it goes well. 2496 01:59:08,720 --> 01:59:10,600 Speaker 2: Look, you know who got into great shape and keeps 2497 01:59:10,640 --> 01:59:12,560 Speaker 2: winning big fights and is now the happiest man on 2498 01:59:12,600 --> 01:59:16,360 Speaker 2: the planet. I don't know, Mike Perry. Let's look in 2499 01:59:16,440 --> 01:59:16,760 Speaker 2: on this. 2500 01:59:17,040 --> 01:59:17,240 Speaker 1: Yeah. 2501 01:59:17,360 --> 01:59:19,680 Speaker 2: Look, I would love to see you, you and your 2502 01:59:19,720 --> 01:59:21,880 Speaker 2: family put something like this out on your Instagram. Look 2503 01:59:21,880 --> 01:59:23,280 Speaker 2: at this guy just enjoying life. 2504 01:59:23,320 --> 01:59:26,560 Speaker 1: Dude. I gotta tell you, I kind of love this 2505 01:59:26,600 --> 01:59:28,280 Speaker 1: for Mike Perry, if I can be told. Yeah, well, 2506 01:59:28,320 --> 01:59:29,840 Speaker 1: this part not so much. I mean, just putting his 2507 01:59:29,840 --> 01:59:32,200 Speaker 1: ass right in the camera. But the kid looks like 2508 01:59:32,240 --> 01:59:35,360 Speaker 1: he's happy. Dude. I said up before, life is hard 2509 01:59:35,360 --> 01:59:38,520 Speaker 1: as shit, no matter what age you are, it's hard 2510 01:59:38,520 --> 01:59:41,640 Speaker 1: as fuck. And if you can he's only doing this 2511 01:59:42,160 --> 01:59:44,400 Speaker 1: because he's happy, you know what I'm saying. Like he's 2512 01:59:44,440 --> 01:59:47,400 Speaker 1: only willing to put himself in these positions because he 2513 01:59:47,520 --> 01:59:50,520 Speaker 1: is so happy with his family. He doesn't care anymore. 2514 01:59:50,560 --> 01:59:51,960 Speaker 1: God bless Mike Perry. 2515 01:59:52,120 --> 01:59:55,720 Speaker 2: That's Ocean's daddy. Right there and Tory in the background. 2516 01:59:56,000 --> 01:59:58,480 Speaker 2: She's very happy they have a second child that came 2517 01:59:58,480 --> 02:00:01,200 Speaker 2: a daughter. So shout out to the Perry there all right, Luke. 2518 02:00:01,360 --> 02:00:03,920 Speaker 2: Also in boxing this week, Uh you know our guy 2519 02:00:04,000 --> 02:00:05,760 Speaker 2: Janna Beeck. We don't talk about him much. He's one 2520 02:00:05,800 --> 02:00:10,040 Speaker 2: of the middleweight title holders. Watch this upper cut sequence 2521 02:00:10,200 --> 02:00:13,120 Speaker 2: he did on the top rank ESPN card to knock 2522 02:00:13,120 --> 02:00:15,920 Speaker 2: out Stephen Butler in round two. Geez, we go full 2523 02:00:15,960 --> 02:00:16,640 Speaker 2: screen on this this. 2524 02:00:16,680 --> 02:00:21,960 Speaker 1: One, and there's the double leg to the body at 2525 02:00:22,000 --> 02:00:23,640 Speaker 1: angles to no less Ah. 2526 02:00:23,720 --> 02:00:28,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, he he is. His last name is I'm not 2527 02:00:28,120 --> 02:00:31,040 Speaker 2: gonna pronounce it Luke, but he calls himself Kazakhs style 2528 02:00:31,120 --> 02:00:33,880 Speaker 2: and we never talk about him but much respect. He 2529 02:00:33,960 --> 02:00:36,600 Speaker 2: thinks he's the most avoided middleweight. We know that division 2530 02:00:36,680 --> 02:00:39,920 Speaker 2: is largely devoid at the moment, but he's making waves 2531 02:00:39,960 --> 02:00:40,400 Speaker 2: just the same. 2532 02:00:42,160 --> 02:00:43,760 Speaker 1: I saw people, I saw people at all. I was 2533 02:00:43,800 --> 02:00:45,760 Speaker 1: gonna say, I was in the train when this fight happened, 2534 02:00:46,040 --> 02:00:48,200 Speaker 1: so I could only watch on my phone on YouTube 2535 02:00:48,240 --> 02:00:50,600 Speaker 1: TV what was happening on showtime, So I saw people 2536 02:00:50,640 --> 02:00:52,760 Speaker 1: tweeting about it, but I had a chance to pay attention. 2537 02:00:52,760 --> 02:00:53,120 Speaker 1: It's good. 2538 02:00:53,160 --> 02:00:56,960 Speaker 2: Also on that undercard Gabriel Flores eats a hook here 2539 02:00:57,640 --> 02:01:00,480 Speaker 2: to deliver a bigger one. Check out this sequence. 2540 02:01:00,840 --> 02:01:03,760 Speaker 1: Damn. You know, he doesn't move his head. He throws 2541 02:01:03,800 --> 02:01:05,800 Speaker 1: and then doesn't into like he goes to the body, 2542 02:01:06,160 --> 02:01:08,440 Speaker 1: he gets it, gets parried, then he comes up to 2543 02:01:08,480 --> 02:01:10,440 Speaker 1: the top, doesn't set it up, and then doesn't move. Look, 2544 02:01:10,440 --> 02:01:12,800 Speaker 1: he doesn't move. He doesn't throw the hook and then 2545 02:01:12,920 --> 02:01:14,640 Speaker 1: roll or throw the hook and then step back. He 2546 02:01:14,760 --> 02:01:17,400 Speaker 1: just kind of stays there. And by the way, they 2547 02:01:17,440 --> 02:01:19,280 Speaker 1: also tell you just never lead with a left hook 2548 02:01:19,320 --> 02:01:21,360 Speaker 1: for a right handed fighter for a lot of reasons, 2549 02:01:21,360 --> 02:01:22,280 Speaker 1: this being one of them. 2550 02:01:22,720 --> 02:01:24,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a pull too counter. You just normally 2551 02:01:24,840 --> 02:01:27,920 Speaker 2: don't see the guy eat the punch flush, Luke, Right, Yeah. 2552 02:01:27,800 --> 02:01:30,400 Speaker 1: Well yeah, there's less there's less pulling going on there. 2553 02:01:30,400 --> 02:01:31,720 Speaker 1: He's more just a counter two. 2554 02:01:32,480 --> 02:01:34,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you on that, Luke. Let's go over 2555 02:01:34,440 --> 02:01:37,720 Speaker 2: to England. Here, here's a guy named Alloys Junior. He 2556 02:01:37,800 --> 02:01:40,080 Speaker 2: delivered arguably the KO of the week against some other 2557 02:01:40,120 --> 02:01:40,960 Speaker 2: dude named Groick. 2558 02:01:45,440 --> 02:01:51,240 Speaker 1: Oh good, hell from hell. He just walked into the 2559 02:01:51,360 --> 02:01:56,120 Speaker 1: Oh my man is taking a nap already, Jesus. 2560 02:01:57,840 --> 02:02:01,320 Speaker 2: Indeed, Look, let's go over to this boxing in between fights. 2561 02:02:01,360 --> 02:02:04,120 Speaker 2: They had a singer jump in the ring to entertain, 2562 02:02:04,520 --> 02:02:11,880 Speaker 2: and then this heckler jumped on the apron. Turns out 2563 02:02:11,920 --> 02:02:12,920 Speaker 2: the singer can bang. 2564 02:02:13,000 --> 02:02:18,440 Speaker 1: Dude, dude, you know what, play stupid games, win stupid prizes. 2565 02:02:18,480 --> 02:02:21,400 Speaker 1: Bitchy that fucking tables, ladders and chairs match you a 2566 02:02:21,440 --> 02:02:24,080 Speaker 1: fat asshole, Luke. 2567 02:02:24,120 --> 02:02:26,839 Speaker 2: We love hockey fights, especially when the goalies get involved. 2568 02:02:26,840 --> 02:02:29,720 Speaker 2: Look at this finish. 2569 02:02:30,160 --> 02:02:31,600 Speaker 1: Is this somewhere in Finland? Or is this? 2570 02:02:33,200 --> 02:02:36,520 Speaker 2: Oh shit, man, each we got to go full screen 2571 02:02:36,560 --> 02:02:37,920 Speaker 2: on these. The people need to see this. 2572 02:02:42,080 --> 02:02:44,200 Speaker 1: Dude. He jabbed him up, He jabbed him up and 2573 02:02:44,200 --> 02:02:46,720 Speaker 1: then finished him off with the right hand. Nice and 2574 02:02:46,760 --> 02:02:49,400 Speaker 1: as he faded over. Boy, that is sick. 2575 02:02:50,520 --> 02:02:52,520 Speaker 2: All right, let's go to the karaoke table. You do 2576 02:02:52,640 --> 02:02:54,520 Speaker 2: have to be careful, Luke. After you put in your 2577 02:02:54,520 --> 02:02:56,920 Speaker 2: request and start singing and then you jump up. 2578 02:03:02,240 --> 02:03:05,080 Speaker 1: There's nothing I mean, as a guy who has worked 2579 02:03:05,120 --> 02:03:08,480 Speaker 1: in bars, let me tell you there's nothing white women 2580 02:03:08,560 --> 02:03:12,240 Speaker 1: love more than standing on tables. I don't know what 2581 02:03:12,280 --> 02:03:16,160 Speaker 1: that is. I don't know why that is, but they 2582 02:03:16,240 --> 02:03:18,920 Speaker 1: love it, and they do it any chance they get. 2583 02:03:19,280 --> 02:03:21,320 Speaker 2: Does that look like a poor man's at zuck right 2584 02:03:21,320 --> 02:03:25,360 Speaker 2: there in the front and the white T shirt. 2585 02:03:25,560 --> 02:03:27,440 Speaker 1: I don't I don't know. Zuck is like the poor 2586 02:03:27,480 --> 02:03:28,440 Speaker 1: man's version of this guy. 2587 02:03:28,480 --> 02:03:33,120 Speaker 2: Actually, if anything, Luke, this is you when the edibles 2588 02:03:33,160 --> 02:03:34,000 Speaker 2: finally kick in. 2589 02:03:41,600 --> 02:03:43,800 Speaker 1: Dude, I had one the other day. I told you 2590 02:03:43,800 --> 02:03:48,800 Speaker 1: guys about this. I misjudged the dosage and I had 2591 02:03:48,840 --> 02:03:54,120 Speaker 1: a nuclear blast of THC. I was sweating profusely and 2592 02:03:54,160 --> 02:03:57,840 Speaker 1: holding onto my chair for dear life, because dude, I'm 2593 02:03:57,880 --> 02:04:00,000 Speaker 1: not kidding. It must have been six or seven hundred. 2594 02:04:00,600 --> 02:04:04,440 Speaker 1: I got a dude, you can. 2595 02:04:04,320 --> 02:04:06,800 Speaker 2: Talk to aliens at about three hundred milligrams, like straight 2596 02:04:06,880 --> 02:04:07,760 Speaker 2: up conversation. 2597 02:04:07,840 --> 02:04:10,000 Speaker 1: I mean maybe maybe it was closer to five, but 2598 02:04:10,200 --> 02:04:13,080 Speaker 1: still it was enough to actually send me to another dimension. 2599 02:04:13,560 --> 02:04:15,440 Speaker 1: I hated it. It wasn't that fun, yike. 2600 02:04:15,720 --> 02:04:17,480 Speaker 2: All right, let's go to the rugby pitch. We got 2601 02:04:17,520 --> 02:04:20,120 Speaker 2: some fun highlights. Here. Here's your female hit of the week. Luke, 2602 02:04:20,160 --> 02:04:21,040 Speaker 2: this is insane. 2603 02:04:22,360 --> 02:04:25,520 Speaker 1: Oh that's like that lady who was stopping the shoplifters 2604 02:04:25,560 --> 02:04:26,120 Speaker 1: at best Buy. 2605 02:04:26,600 --> 02:04:30,280 Speaker 2: Yes, indeed like me that water against Christian okoye, look 2606 02:04:30,280 --> 02:04:30,560 Speaker 2: at that. 2607 02:04:30,840 --> 02:04:33,560 Speaker 1: You never seeing these rugby the female rugby players in person. 2608 02:04:34,040 --> 02:04:36,000 Speaker 1: These are definitely the types that were like I don't 2609 02:04:36,000 --> 02:04:37,600 Speaker 1: want a stereotype and just tell you what I've seen, 2610 02:04:38,360 --> 02:04:40,160 Speaker 1: but uh, these are the kind you see and you're like, yeah, 2611 02:04:40,160 --> 02:04:42,720 Speaker 1: they could definitely beat a few guys, Like, there's definitely 2612 02:04:43,480 --> 02:04:45,040 Speaker 1: some dudes who would be Yeah. 2613 02:04:44,880 --> 02:04:48,560 Speaker 2: They're like the college softball catchers, Luke, you know the 2614 02:04:48,560 --> 02:04:49,320 Speaker 2: world needs those. 2615 02:04:49,280 --> 02:04:53,000 Speaker 1: Ye dude, college college softball player or I should say 2616 02:04:53,360 --> 02:04:57,560 Speaker 1: even high high school football excuse me, high school softball players, 2617 02:04:57,840 --> 02:05:01,480 Speaker 1: because you get the kind that are just like enormously overweight, 2618 02:05:01,560 --> 02:05:03,360 Speaker 1: but they can just kind of lean into the thing 2619 02:05:03,560 --> 02:05:06,640 Speaker 1: and they can hit that fucking ball into the into 2620 02:05:06,680 --> 02:05:07,320 Speaker 1: the moon. 2621 02:05:07,840 --> 02:05:10,840 Speaker 2: They can sometimes, though, Luke, the fans run on the 2622 02:05:10,880 --> 02:05:13,040 Speaker 2: rugby field, and then we need to, you know, we 2623 02:05:13,080 --> 02:05:15,600 Speaker 2: need to we need to protect these ladies from from 2624 02:05:15,640 --> 02:05:18,040 Speaker 2: these fans. You know, we need to lay them the 2625 02:05:18,080 --> 02:05:19,960 Speaker 2: hell out. Nice move right there to avoid it. 2626 02:05:20,160 --> 02:05:24,240 Speaker 1: That's pretty good. Where is this? But ah, Jesus. 2627 02:05:23,800 --> 02:05:26,560 Speaker 2: Somebody get Burt Kreischer off the field, which you please? 2628 02:05:27,760 --> 02:05:32,320 Speaker 1: What was up with his fucking Okay? Are we able 2629 02:05:32,440 --> 02:05:35,760 Speaker 1: to get a Burt Kreischer experience where he is appropriately 2630 02:05:35,800 --> 02:05:36,520 Speaker 1: clothed for the. 2631 02:05:36,640 --> 02:05:39,320 Speaker 2: Well, you could get that experience experience in the octagon, 2632 02:05:39,360 --> 02:05:41,120 Speaker 2: did you see his movie poster inside that, That's. 2633 02:05:41,040 --> 02:05:43,240 Speaker 1: What I'm saying. Like even the poster or whatever it 2634 02:05:43,360 --> 02:05:45,280 Speaker 1: was it was, I guess it was in the every 2635 02:05:46,400 --> 02:05:48,680 Speaker 1: in between the panels or every kind of stanchion for 2636 02:05:48,880 --> 02:05:51,720 Speaker 1: the for the Octagon, there was one of he was 2637 02:05:51,760 --> 02:05:55,520 Speaker 1: shirtless in the fucking ad and it's like, dude, I don't, 2638 02:05:55,560 --> 02:05:58,280 Speaker 1: I don't. I'm not getting much out of this experience. 2639 02:05:59,080 --> 02:06:00,560 Speaker 2: Chest, hair and sweat. That's about. 2640 02:06:00,680 --> 02:06:03,160 Speaker 1: Just put a shirt on, guy. 2641 02:06:03,480 --> 02:06:05,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, Luke. I always say, you know, I'm really bad 2642 02:06:05,640 --> 02:06:07,680 Speaker 2: at fixing things. I always wish I had a third hand, 2643 02:06:07,880 --> 02:06:10,000 Speaker 2: right because you know, to help hold it and frame 2644 02:06:10,040 --> 02:06:14,160 Speaker 2: it and hold the nail while I hammer. Oh that's 2645 02:06:14,160 --> 02:06:15,040 Speaker 2: a good workaround. 2646 02:06:17,240 --> 02:06:21,400 Speaker 1: Dude. Does this man have a python? A reticulating python 2647 02:06:21,520 --> 02:06:25,160 Speaker 1: for a hog? I mean that is ridiculous. 2648 02:06:26,360 --> 02:06:28,800 Speaker 2: Stop hammer, Yeah, dude, yes. 2649 02:06:28,760 --> 02:06:31,040 Speaker 1: Man, I gotta be honest. This man's penis is a 2650 02:06:31,080 --> 02:06:34,320 Speaker 1: prehensile tail. I mean it's just unbelievable. Do you know 2651 02:06:34,320 --> 02:06:36,760 Speaker 1: what a prehensil tail is? I know, but I'd love 2652 02:06:36,800 --> 02:06:38,320 Speaker 1: to Those are the ones I've ever seen. Those monkeys 2653 02:06:38,360 --> 02:06:39,880 Speaker 1: who have a tail that can rap and then they 2654 02:06:39,880 --> 02:06:42,640 Speaker 1: can hang themselves like they can hold themselves from the 2655 02:06:42,680 --> 02:06:45,920 Speaker 1: branch with the tail. Yes, this man's cock is a 2656 02:06:45,960 --> 02:06:48,040 Speaker 1: prehensile tail. It's just unbelievable. 2657 02:06:48,240 --> 02:06:50,200 Speaker 2: You said the S word. Oh, let's go to the 2658 02:06:50,240 --> 02:06:54,280 Speaker 2: concert scene here, see what develops here, Luke. 2659 02:06:56,320 --> 02:06:58,120 Speaker 1: Well, I mean you can tell how this is gonna go. 2660 02:07:00,080 --> 02:07:02,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think that's a cannibal corpse right there. 2661 02:07:03,160 --> 02:07:05,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I just look at who's in there, 2662 02:07:05,080 --> 02:07:07,280 Speaker 1: and you can you know, I don't need, I don't need. 2663 02:07:07,520 --> 02:07:10,240 Speaker 1: There's there's people who are hearing this on the audio platform. 2664 02:07:10,760 --> 02:07:13,320 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say who's dancing, but you know who's 2665 02:07:13,400 --> 02:07:15,600 Speaker 1: dancing when it turns poorly for the. 2666 02:07:16,560 --> 02:07:18,720 Speaker 2: O'gary doing that backflip off the stage. 2667 02:07:18,480 --> 02:07:21,880 Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, the guy who did the flip is reasonably No, 2668 02:07:22,000 --> 02:07:25,280 Speaker 1: I won't say reasonably anything, you know, I'll just say 2669 02:07:25,680 --> 02:07:26,440 Speaker 1: much of a surprise. 2670 02:07:26,800 --> 02:07:29,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, let's go to the amateur wrestling Matt Luke, tell 2671 02:07:29,960 --> 02:07:31,600 Speaker 2: me a whole look at that. Tell me if this 2672 02:07:31,680 --> 02:07:34,240 Speaker 2: move is legal? Seriously, this is like a pro wrestling move. 2673 02:07:37,560 --> 02:07:40,280 Speaker 1: Oh, that's legal, that's a standing say onagi. Oh yeah, 2674 02:07:40,280 --> 02:07:42,920 Speaker 1: that's fully legal. It's just you don't normally see it 2675 02:07:42,960 --> 02:07:46,800 Speaker 1: with two biggins like that. When big country meets you know, 2676 02:07:46,920 --> 02:07:51,080 Speaker 1: big sky over there. Usually it's a little more you know, pedestrian, 2677 02:07:51,160 --> 02:07:53,440 Speaker 1: but steps across pulls him over. Yeah, that's called a 2678 02:07:53,520 --> 02:07:55,640 Speaker 1: drop saying, or actually, no, a drop when he go 2679 02:07:55,680 --> 02:07:59,080 Speaker 1: to his knees. This is a standing seyanagi. Yeah that's sick. 2680 02:07:59,560 --> 02:08:02,160 Speaker 2: Let's go over to the state championship match and look 2681 02:08:02,160 --> 02:08:04,840 Speaker 2: at this victory celebration. Check out this guy in the white. 2682 02:08:07,600 --> 02:08:09,720 Speaker 1: He's gonna throw his coach lateral drop. Yeah, he's just 2683 02:08:09,760 --> 02:08:10,800 Speaker 1: lateral dropping people. 2684 02:08:11,160 --> 02:08:12,880 Speaker 2: Oh, I love it, love it, love it. 2685 02:08:12,960 --> 02:08:17,400 Speaker 1: What state is this? Louisiana? Based on the shape of 2686 02:08:17,120 --> 02:08:18,480 Speaker 1: the the logo back. 2687 02:08:18,360 --> 02:08:20,520 Speaker 2: There could be yeah, yeah, yeah, it looks like it. 2688 02:08:20,560 --> 02:08:23,000 Speaker 2: Where's Where's Where's Where's Coach Cormier? 2689 02:08:23,360 --> 02:08:25,640 Speaker 1: Yeah? Where's DC? Where's Dustin? Where's Dustin Pourier? 2690 02:08:26,360 --> 02:08:28,680 Speaker 2: Yeah? We got one more for you, Luke. This this 2691 02:08:28,760 --> 02:08:29,520 Speaker 2: guy physical? 2692 02:08:32,760 --> 02:08:36,600 Speaker 1: Oh dude. 2693 02:08:37,240 --> 02:08:39,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm guessing. 2694 02:08:39,760 --> 02:08:42,160 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do a bit here. I'm gonna ask a question. 2695 02:08:42,640 --> 02:08:45,760 Speaker 1: Is the girl punching the other girl? She lost the match? Right? 2696 02:08:46,280 --> 02:08:52,760 Speaker 2: I think they're both boys, Luke. But I don't know, 2697 02:08:52,920 --> 02:08:55,640 Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know. All right, all right, 2698 02:08:55,840 --> 02:08:57,840 Speaker 2: you know I'm all for it all right, whatever. 2699 02:08:57,800 --> 02:08:59,080 Speaker 1: Dude, that happened to me the other day. There was 2700 02:08:59,120 --> 02:09:01,280 Speaker 1: a young person. They must have been. It must have 2701 02:09:01,360 --> 02:09:04,720 Speaker 1: been like like seventeen. I don't know what the working 2702 02:09:04,760 --> 02:09:06,480 Speaker 1: age laws are anymore in America. I guess you can 2703 02:09:06,560 --> 02:09:09,560 Speaker 1: work if you're five now, but a very young person, 2704 02:09:09,640 --> 02:09:13,040 Speaker 1: and I definitely called them a sir and thanking them 2705 02:09:13,040 --> 02:09:14,840 Speaker 1: for something. And my wife afterwards, look, I think that 2706 02:09:14,920 --> 02:09:18,440 Speaker 1: was a girl. And I'm like, I can't. I did 2707 02:09:18,480 --> 02:09:20,840 Speaker 1: not know. I cannot in certain cases, I cannot tell. 2708 02:09:21,280 --> 02:09:23,840 Speaker 2: Just say hi, Luke and move on. Okay, let's go 2709 02:09:23,920 --> 02:09:27,120 Speaker 2: to these gentlemen. Is that a tripod under this guy's robe, Luke? 2710 02:09:27,200 --> 02:09:29,640 Speaker 2: Or is he just happy to see us? Oh? Whoa, 2711 02:09:29,720 --> 02:09:31,240 Speaker 2: what's this? This is a bonus clip? 2712 02:09:31,880 --> 02:09:32,000 Speaker 1: Ye? 2713 02:09:34,600 --> 02:09:36,440 Speaker 2: Sorry that was in there. I missed it, Luke. This 2714 02:09:36,480 --> 02:09:38,680 Speaker 2: is a different type of amateur wrestling movem. It's more 2715 02:09:38,720 --> 02:09:39,280 Speaker 2: of appropriate. 2716 02:09:39,560 --> 02:09:42,600 Speaker 1: I feel like if you get injured doing backyard wrestling, 2717 02:09:42,880 --> 02:09:45,120 Speaker 1: the doctors are required to not treat you. 2718 02:09:45,640 --> 02:09:48,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, there you go face first on the concrete. 2719 02:09:48,240 --> 02:09:49,720 Speaker 2: That's not good. But let's go over there. 2720 02:09:50,000 --> 02:09:51,520 Speaker 1: Tell me how the asphalt tastes. 2721 02:09:51,840 --> 02:09:56,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, Kobe, yeah, Kobe, all right, Luke, what is happening here? 2722 02:09:56,760 --> 02:10:02,440 Speaker 2: Let's zoom in. Does that little guy. 2723 02:10:01,600 --> 02:10:07,040 Speaker 1: Have a uh? We again, we just have we apparently 2724 02:10:07,200 --> 02:10:13,120 Speaker 1: have discovered videos of gentleman's whose genitalia comically enormous and 2725 02:10:13,440 --> 02:10:14,400 Speaker 1: yet quite handy. 2726 02:10:14,640 --> 02:10:16,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd be like, which hand do I shake? Look 2727 02:10:16,680 --> 02:10:19,800 Speaker 2: at that, sir? All right, Luke. Sometimes you see guys 2728 02:10:19,800 --> 02:10:21,640 Speaker 2: that are so wild you just want to know what's 2729 02:10:21,680 --> 02:10:24,440 Speaker 2: their story? Luke, what's this guy's story coming up here? 2730 02:10:29,360 --> 02:10:31,160 Speaker 1: I don't know, but I want to learn it. iMedia. 2731 02:10:33,120 --> 02:10:34,960 Speaker 1: First of all, I don't know what's in that keg, 2732 02:10:35,000 --> 02:10:37,320 Speaker 1: but he's carrying that thing with the strength of Brian 2733 02:10:37,440 --> 02:10:39,880 Speaker 1: Shaw and his balls are hanging out. Look in the 2734 02:10:39,920 --> 02:10:40,440 Speaker 1: middle there. 2735 02:10:41,000 --> 02:10:43,560 Speaker 2: He has air conditioned jeans right there. That's great. 2736 02:10:43,600 --> 02:10:46,040 Speaker 1: And he's holding a Jack Daniels in the other hand. 2737 02:10:46,200 --> 02:10:48,280 Speaker 1: And by the way, look at him. He's walking like 2738 02:10:48,360 --> 02:10:51,360 Speaker 1: he knows exactly where he's going. For what purpose? Dude? 2739 02:10:51,480 --> 02:10:53,240 Speaker 1: This guy fucks, That's what I think. 2740 02:10:53,280 --> 02:10:56,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, he also eats a flesh. I'd say he's 2741 02:10:56,160 --> 02:10:57,800 Speaker 2: like that, Look, I need a keg of beer to 2742 02:10:57,840 --> 02:10:59,800 Speaker 2: eat this person's body. He looks like, you know, if 2743 02:10:59,800 --> 02:11:00,680 Speaker 2: I'm do you ever. 2744 02:11:00,640 --> 02:11:02,920 Speaker 1: Tried carrying a keg of beer. They're heavy as ship. 2745 02:11:03,000 --> 02:11:06,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're heavy as is, f Luke or s all right, 2746 02:11:06,400 --> 02:11:08,080 Speaker 2: we got two more for you, Hey, Luke over in 2747 02:11:08,120 --> 02:11:12,240 Speaker 2: the UFL Right, how about Rajah Jackson, son of Rampage 2748 02:11:12,680 --> 02:11:16,520 Speaker 2: Earns an amateur KO And then afterwards Data was like, 2749 02:11:16,560 --> 02:11:22,720 Speaker 2: you can turn pro Son nice into the Rajah Jackson's 2750 02:11:22,800 --> 02:11:23,400 Speaker 2: future here. 2751 02:11:23,680 --> 02:11:25,760 Speaker 1: I mean, here's the thing with anyone's kid. It's like, 2752 02:11:26,160 --> 02:11:28,760 Speaker 1: you know, I'll take the wait and see approach. 2753 02:11:29,240 --> 02:11:32,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, our boy big Tuna came up empty. Lukey, he 2754 02:11:32,680 --> 02:11:34,360 Speaker 2: dislocated his singer and got submitted. 2755 02:11:34,600 --> 02:11:36,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, well that broke my heart a little bit too. 2756 02:11:36,280 --> 02:11:37,960 Speaker 1: Shots the big tuning. You'll get him next time, bro. 2757 02:11:38,120 --> 02:11:41,200 Speaker 2: And finally, Luke, you mentioned on the f four mentioned 2758 02:11:41,280 --> 02:11:43,760 Speaker 2: not yet published Room Service Diaries that you had an 2759 02:11:43,800 --> 02:11:46,440 Speaker 2: issue trying to help your family move. We found footage 2760 02:11:46,440 --> 02:11:51,600 Speaker 2: of that. Let's let's zoom in on this. There's Luke 2761 02:11:51,640 --> 02:11:54,720 Speaker 2: in the bag trying to do Yeah, let's uh, somebody 2762 02:11:54,760 --> 02:11:55,280 Speaker 2: hit the bricks. 2763 02:11:58,440 --> 02:12:02,920 Speaker 1: Go dude, this is so bad. They've got the doors 2764 02:12:03,000 --> 02:12:05,879 Speaker 1: open and they've got the tray out and then everything 2765 02:12:05,920 --> 02:12:07,440 Speaker 1: falls out. So not only do you have to repair 2766 02:12:07,520 --> 02:12:10,520 Speaker 1: the doors and then the the ladder, so to speak, 2767 02:12:11,400 --> 02:12:15,200 Speaker 1: the ramp anyway, then you have to repack everything, dude, 2768 02:12:15,200 --> 02:12:18,760 Speaker 1: this is in an epic, an epic. L not as 2769 02:12:18,800 --> 02:12:20,840 Speaker 1: bad as well, Actually, I should say worse than the 2770 02:12:20,840 --> 02:12:21,839 Speaker 1: one that I took. 2771 02:12:21,880 --> 02:12:24,200 Speaker 2: Yes, but I mean this guy died probably from this, 2772 02:12:24,320 --> 02:12:26,040 Speaker 2: so it's probably worse than the one you did. But 2773 02:12:26,080 --> 02:12:27,000 Speaker 2: that's the shit of the week. 2774 02:12:27,040 --> 02:12:29,560 Speaker 1: Losing this happened to me. This happened to me where 2775 02:12:29,600 --> 02:12:32,240 Speaker 1: if I had lived, I'd have to repack everything. I 2776 02:12:32,280 --> 02:12:34,520 Speaker 1: would rather just die. You know what I'm saying. 2777 02:12:35,520 --> 02:12:37,960 Speaker 2: You just light it all on fire, including yourself, and 2778 02:12:38,000 --> 02:12:39,480 Speaker 2: go out Joan of arc style. 2779 02:12:39,720 --> 02:12:42,600 Speaker 1: That's what a real man would, all right, helping people 2780 02:12:42,640 --> 02:12:44,960 Speaker 1: move like here. The reality is I moved a bunch 2781 02:12:45,000 --> 02:12:46,480 Speaker 1: as a kid, and people always help me, so like 2782 02:12:47,240 --> 02:12:48,880 Speaker 1: whant to help my family member move. I actually felt 2783 02:12:48,880 --> 02:12:51,080 Speaker 1: pretty good about it because I knew I owed the universe. 2784 02:12:51,120 --> 02:12:51,280 Speaker 3: You know. 2785 02:12:51,360 --> 02:12:54,080 Speaker 1: It wasn't that, It's just that the people involved in 2786 02:12:54,120 --> 02:12:59,000 Speaker 1: the rental company I hated. I hated it all. I 2787 02:12:59,040 --> 02:12:59,720 Speaker 1: hated all of them. 2788 02:13:00,280 --> 02:13:02,440 Speaker 2: Well, you normally hate most people, so it's you know, 2789 02:13:02,480 --> 02:13:04,600 Speaker 2: statistically it would catch up with you, Luke. But it 2790 02:13:04,680 --> 02:13:06,880 Speaker 2: happened all right, that's all the shit I got. What 2791 02:13:07,040 --> 02:13:08,800 Speaker 2: a show, right, what a show? You know? 2792 02:13:09,040 --> 02:13:10,880 Speaker 1: BC. Let's remind everyone we forgot to do when we 2793 02:13:10,880 --> 02:13:14,600 Speaker 1: were talking about Francis, which I apologize. But so Francis 2794 02:13:14,680 --> 02:13:17,200 Speaker 1: is going to make this announcement tomorrow, we see, we 2795 02:13:17,240 --> 02:13:20,400 Speaker 1: think at one pm. I don't know exactly when I'm 2796 02:13:20,440 --> 02:13:23,880 Speaker 1: going live, but I will have some kind of pretty 2797 02:13:23,960 --> 02:13:27,880 Speaker 1: immediate reaction to it after the fact. Again, I don't 2798 02:13:27,880 --> 02:13:29,200 Speaker 1: know how long his announcement was going to be. I 2799 02:13:29,200 --> 02:13:31,600 Speaker 1: don't know what he's gonna say, but again I expect 2800 02:13:31,640 --> 02:13:35,240 Speaker 1: at some point at its conclusion for me afterwards to 2801 02:13:35,280 --> 02:13:38,200 Speaker 1: be having a live kind of reaction to it. Right here, 2802 02:13:38,280 --> 02:13:40,000 Speaker 1: YouTube dot Com Slash Morning Combat. 2803 02:13:40,040 --> 02:13:42,960 Speaker 2: So there you go, all right, And also, mikey are 2804 02:13:43,080 --> 02:13:46,520 Speaker 2: great producer of CBS Sports. He asked another question. 2805 02:13:46,320 --> 02:13:48,960 Speaker 1: There, Luke, he goes, if you want me to edit RSD, 2806 02:13:49,080 --> 02:13:50,680 Speaker 1: we can get it done for Thursday. Yeah, we might 2807 02:13:50,680 --> 02:13:53,200 Speaker 1: have it out for Thursday. The OG one, sure, either 2808 02:13:53,240 --> 02:13:55,200 Speaker 1: that one or Sunday, it all depends, but we'll get 2809 02:13:55,240 --> 02:13:55,880 Speaker 1: that one done. 2810 02:13:55,920 --> 02:13:59,400 Speaker 2: And it was great catching up with a great coach 2811 02:13:59,480 --> 02:14:01,200 Speaker 2: Luke and Ray long ago. We look forward to getting 2812 02:14:01,200 --> 02:14:03,960 Speaker 2: that RSD two point zero on the streets pretty soon 2813 02:14:04,000 --> 02:14:04,640 Speaker 2: as well. Great. 2814 02:14:04,680 --> 02:14:07,240 Speaker 1: Yes, that was a phenomenal conversation and he brings it 2815 02:14:07,320 --> 02:14:09,120 Speaker 1: every time, and I learned a lot. Actually sometimes I 2816 02:14:09,120 --> 02:14:13,280 Speaker 1: don't learn a whole lot. Yeah, but talking into not 2817 02:14:13,320 --> 02:14:15,280 Speaker 1: every conversation could be the most fruitful. I found this 2818 02:14:15,320 --> 02:14:17,440 Speaker 1: one to be very fruitful, so I really enjoyed it. 2819 02:14:17,480 --> 02:14:21,080 Speaker 1: Shout out to very long ago, great guy. OKABC. Reminder, 2820 02:14:21,120 --> 02:14:23,200 Speaker 1: of course, showtime dot Com is the label that pays 2821 02:14:23,240 --> 02:14:25,280 Speaker 1: thirty days free. If you want, you can keep it. 2822 02:14:25,280 --> 02:14:27,400 Speaker 1: If not, you can pounce sand and then, of course, 2823 02:14:27,440 --> 02:14:30,400 Speaker 1: if that's not for you, that's your loss. But just 2824 02:14:30,440 --> 02:14:32,240 Speaker 1: the same you can go to Morning Combat dot store 2825 02:14:32,600 --> 02:14:35,320 Speaker 1: for some merch. BC's hat the whole nine yards there 2826 02:14:35,920 --> 02:14:39,680 Speaker 1: and yes, so be on the lookout tomorrow for a 2827 02:14:39,720 --> 02:14:42,880 Speaker 1: live reaction to Francis and we'll go from there. BC. 2828 02:14:43,000 --> 02:14:45,560 Speaker 1: Any final thoughts as we wind down today's show. 2829 02:14:46,160 --> 02:14:48,520 Speaker 2: I'm a man, Luke of many hats. 2830 02:14:53,520 --> 02:14:56,600 Speaker 1: You look like the street vendors in Cartagena who do 2831 02:14:56,720 --> 02:14:57,120 Speaker 1: this bit. 2832 02:14:57,720 --> 02:14:59,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I would also go Third World on your ass. 2833 02:15:00,160 --> 02:15:02,240 Speaker 2: They would at any point, Luke, you better understand that 2834 02:15:02,280 --> 02:15:04,760 Speaker 2: about me, all right, I'm a rabbit animal. You don't. 2835 02:15:05,000 --> 02:15:06,480 Speaker 2: You don't want to mess with me at the end 2836 02:15:06,480 --> 02:15:07,920 Speaker 2: of the day. Al Right, it's all fun and games 2837 02:15:08,000 --> 02:15:10,280 Speaker 2: up front, but you know, you put you put BC 2838 02:15:10,440 --> 02:15:12,040 Speaker 2: in a corner you find out. 2839 02:15:11,880 --> 02:15:14,080 Speaker 1: All right, why do they have to be throwd world BC? 2840 02:15:15,600 --> 02:15:18,720 Speaker 2: Because that's where people who come from fight the hardest. 2841 02:15:18,800 --> 02:15:20,640 Speaker 2: Luke and I respect that, all right? 2842 02:15:20,800 --> 02:15:23,480 Speaker 1: Very good h That is Brian Campbell. I'm Luke Thomas. 2843 02:15:23,560 --> 02:15:26,920 Speaker 1: Thanks by the way to old Ryle who did pretty 2844 02:15:26,920 --> 02:15:29,320 Speaker 1: good job over the weekend. Yeah, from the Maulka crew. 2845 02:15:29,360 --> 02:15:31,880 Speaker 2: For a guy with such outwardly low testosterone, it was 2846 02:15:31,920 --> 02:15:32,720 Speaker 2: great working with him. 2847 02:15:32,720 --> 02:15:35,840 Speaker 1: You know, dude, he's twenty one in balding. But other 2848 02:15:35,840 --> 02:15:36,960 Speaker 1: than that, he's a great guy, you know. 2849 02:15:37,040 --> 02:15:38,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, great guy, great guy. 2850 02:15:39,040 --> 02:15:41,120 Speaker 1: Thanks everyone from the Malca side who was there for 2851 02:15:41,160 --> 02:15:43,160 Speaker 1: the weekend and of course here today. We appreciate that 2852 02:15:43,200 --> 02:15:46,000 Speaker 1: as well. Thanks to CBS Sports. Mikey Morms is back 2853 02:15:46,040 --> 02:15:48,400 Speaker 1: as well. We're out of here so for Brian Campbell, 2854 02:15:48,440 --> 02:15:50,880 Speaker 1: I'm Luke Thomas. Thanks to all who are watching. I'll 2855 02:15:50,880 --> 02:15:53,880 Speaker 1: see you guys tomorrow after Francis's announcement, and until then, 2856 02:15:54,280 --> 02:15:56,040 Speaker 1: may all of your gains be loyal