1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:01,639 Speaker 1: Okay, I'm just jumping in here. 2 00:00:01,680 --> 00:00:04,800 Speaker 2: There's no theme song yet because we are going to 3 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 2: get to that big debut later. But first, hello and 4 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 2: welcome to teen Beat, a brand new interview show hosted 5 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:16,599 Speaker 2: by me Daniel Fischl, podcaster, TV director, recent celebrity ballroom dancer, 6 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 2: mother of two, and is proven by the headshot on 7 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:22,320 Speaker 2: the wall of my dry cleaners. I am the former 8 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 2: child actor known as Tapanga from the nineties TV family 9 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 2: sitcom Boy Meets World, and as a result of that role, 10 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:32,559 Speaker 2: my entire teenage existence from the age of twelve to 11 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 2: nineteen was in front of both a live studio audience 12 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 2: and millions of viewers at home. From my first kiss 13 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 2: to my first haircut, absolutely everything was caught on camera. 14 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:47,239 Speaker 2: So now, thirty years later, it's time to turn the tables. 15 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 2: My goal here on teen Beat is to sit down 16 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 2: with interesting people who have accomplished interesting things in hopes 17 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 2: that learning about their untelevised upbringings will help us understand 18 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 2: who they are today. Since they're first pimple wasn't also 19 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 2: part of a TGIF block of programming, the least they 20 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 2: can do is share it with me. Now, I gave 21 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 2: you my childhood, It's time we hear yours and for 22 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:14,760 Speaker 2: the first teen beat episode ever, I think I have 23 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 2: found the perfect guest, because no matter what generation you 24 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:22,679 Speaker 2: like to claim, chances are your coming of age soundtrack 25 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:26,400 Speaker 2: included his voice. He was present for your first crush, 26 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 2: your newly licensed long drives down a highway, and a 27 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 2: majority of your bad decisions, including all of those fourth 28 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 2: meal taco bell runs of the late nineties and early 29 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:42,679 Speaker 2: two thousands. He's an architect of the entire pop punk scene, 30 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 2: somehow taking his underground rock childhood interests and bringing its sensibility, musicality, 31 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 2: and immature humor to not only the TRL Countdown, but 32 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 2: to mainstream audiences around the globe. If Warp Tour was 33 00:01:56,960 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 2: a contagious disease, and for many years it was, he 34 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 2: was patient zero. With sales totaling over fifty million records worldwide, 35 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 2: three number one albums, seven songs in the hot one 36 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 2: hundred eighteen million Spotify listeners per month, a Coachella headlining surprise, 37 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 2: and over half a million tickets sold during their twenty 38 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 2: twenty three reunion tour, their highest grossing it. They have 39 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:26,359 Speaker 2: proven that thirty years after their debut album, first hit 40 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 2: shelves they are stronger than ever. And his twenty twenty 41 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:33,800 Speaker 2: five book Fahrenheit one eighty two, a memoir, debuted at 42 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 2: number one on the New York Times bestseller list and 43 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 2: chronicled two things we have in common, a midlife cancer 44 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:44,519 Speaker 2: battle and the ability to write melodic anthems that will 45 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 2: withstand the test of time. The crown is heavy for 46 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 2: us both. He may have been instrumental in your awkward 47 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 2: teenage years, but now it's time to find out what 48 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 2: his were like. Welcome to teen Beat, the man who 49 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 2: once wrote the lyric I want to see some name, dudes. 50 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 2: That's why I built this pool. It's founding member of 51 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 2: Blank one eighty two. 52 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:07,239 Speaker 1: Mark Opus. 53 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 3: Hello, I sound really cool when you laid all out 54 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 3: like that. That's raight, Okay, yeah, let's go now. I 55 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:15,239 Speaker 3: feel very uh accomplished. 56 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 2: You are very accomplished, and you are very cool. Thank 57 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:21,640 Speaker 2: you for being here with me. This is really quite 58 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 2: an honor. 59 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:23,359 Speaker 4: Thank you glad to be here. 60 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 2: Not only were you kind enough to share your time 61 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 2: with us, but we somehow convinced you to write and 62 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 2: perform the official teen Beat with Daniel Fishle theme song, 63 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 2: which we will be debuting at the end of this episode, 64 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 2: and I'm going to admit it now, it's too good 65 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 2: for me. Basically, anything we do after that is just 66 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 2: going to let everyone down. So can you share the 67 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 2: inspiration behind what everyone's going to hear later on? 68 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 1: With the theme song? 69 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 3: A couple weeks ago, I was it was late at night, 70 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 3: I was downstairs in my studio and I was playing 71 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 3: my acoustic guitar and I had this riff. And just 72 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 3: a few days later, Jensen, your kind husband and my 73 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 3: friend for the past whatever twenty years, hit me up 74 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 3: and said, hey, Danielle's doing a new show. Would you 75 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 3: be interested in writing a theme song? Do you have 76 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 3: anything laying around some old ideas? And I went through 77 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 3: a bunch of old ideas and I didn't really have 78 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 3: anything that I loved. But I had this one thing 79 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 3: that I thought was really cool, and I thought, well, 80 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 3: maybe I can change the lyrics or maybe I can 81 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 3: rearrange a little bit. And so I sent it over 82 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 3: and Jensen played it for you and it was like, yeah, 83 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 3: that's perfect. 84 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:28,280 Speaker 1: It's great, we love it's great, We'll take it. 85 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:29,279 Speaker 4: So I was like, all right, cool. 86 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 3: So I had my engineer come over and do it 87 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:34,600 Speaker 3: correctly and send it in and got it in just 88 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 3: in time because it was the holidays and my engineer 89 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 3: was gone and I was gone, and so we put 90 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:42,360 Speaker 3: it together and got it in what two days ago? 91 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:45,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, and it's all perfect. It's just that's 92 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 2: the way it was supposed to happen. Thank you so 93 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 2: much for putting in all that effort on holidays. 94 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:50,039 Speaker 4: It's glad to do it. 95 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 3: I love being creative and I love working with my friends, 96 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 3: and I'm very glad that it'll live with you. 97 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 1: It will live forever with me. So you're my first guest. 98 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 2: I thought maybe we could art by talking about another 99 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 2: first Okay, first kiss. What do you remember about this 100 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:09,480 Speaker 2: big teenage moment? 101 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 4: My first kiss. 102 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 3: I was literally moving from the town that I lived 103 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 3: in in the middle of the desert Ridgecrest, California. I 104 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 3: was fourteen, hadn't been kissed yet, and there was a 105 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:25,359 Speaker 3: girl who kind of had a crush on me and 106 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 3: wanted to say goodbye and wanted to like give me 107 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 3: a card or something before I left. And we were 108 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:32,840 Speaker 3: standing in my front yard and she gave me a kiss, 109 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 3: and it was a French kiss, and her tongue was 110 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 3: very invasive, and I didn't really feel like kissing her, 111 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:41,919 Speaker 3: but she was like grabby and she kind of kissed 112 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:42,599 Speaker 3: me forcefully. 113 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:44,479 Speaker 1: Wow, like a weighted blanket kiss. 114 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, like a little more than I was ready for. 115 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:49,479 Speaker 3: But I was like okay, cool, and then I said, 116 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:52,159 Speaker 3: all right, well, i'll see you when I moved back 117 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 3: in a year because my dad was moving away from 118 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 3: Ridgecrest to Washington, DC to work at the Pentagon for 119 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:59,840 Speaker 3: a year. And I went inside and I was really 120 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:03,599 Speaker 3: disturbed by it, and I turned up the cure song 121 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:07,039 Speaker 3: the kiss, Yeah, really loud. It's just really long song. 122 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:09,359 Speaker 3: So the first song on kiss me, kiss Me, kiss me, 123 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 3: and it says, uh, kiss me, kiss me, kiss me. 124 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 3: Your tongue's like poison, so swollen it fills up my mouth. 125 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 3: And that's exactly how it felt. I was like, I'm 126 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:21,119 Speaker 3: not ready for this. I don't feel like this about 127 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:23,359 Speaker 3: you yet. And so that was my first kiss. 128 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 1: Wow. Do you think she heard the song playing from outside? 129 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 3: I doubt it. I doubt it, but yeah, that was 130 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:32,559 Speaker 3: my first real kiss. And I was like, that's weird. 131 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 1: That was weird. 132 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:34,480 Speaker 3: There's a lot of tongue and there's a lot of 133 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 3: stuff and there's a lot of saliva involved. 134 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, uh, that's a that's an awkward first 135 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 2: kiss story. Mine mine was also mine was in front 136 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:43,919 Speaker 2: of a bunch of people. Yeah, but it was not 137 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 2: a French kiss, just a kiss kiss, just a long 138 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 2: peck on. 139 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 4: The lips, like like old like forties movie. 140 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:54,279 Speaker 2: Style, exactly forty's movie style, with two twelve year olds 141 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 2: who had never kissed, okay, and now and are doing 142 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:58,039 Speaker 2: it in front of a live studio audience and my 143 00:06:58,080 --> 00:06:59,479 Speaker 2: grandparents and my parents. 144 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:02,359 Speaker 4: Was there an intimacy coordinator at that point? 145 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 1: No intimacy coordinator. 146 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 4: We were. 147 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 1: We were just thrust in there. 148 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, which is probably for the best, to be honest. 149 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 1: We did you consider yourself in any way a ladies man? 150 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 3: Oh no, okay, no, no, not at all. 151 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 4: I didn't have any ladies out. No, do you're opposite. 152 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 1: Do you remember any bad dates? 153 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 4: He went on bad dates? 154 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 3: I didn't go on a lot of bad day Probably 155 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 3: the most awkward date was I was when I turned sixteen. 156 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 3: My dad was dating a new woman. This is when 157 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 3: we were living in DC and he wanted to go 158 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 3: out to or maybe it was when I turned fifteen. Anyway, 159 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 3: for my birthday. We went to this really fancy restaurant 160 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 3: in Washington, d C. And had to dress up in tuxedos. Oh, 161 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 3: and I took a girl that I was kind of seeing, 162 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 3: and it was it was a weird date because we 163 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 3: were at a very fancy restaurant, I was wearing a tuxedo, 164 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 3: and I was eating food I didn't like, and it 165 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 3: was really to impress my dad's new girlfriend. 166 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 1: Okay, for your birthday. 167 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 3: For my birthday, yeah, is that you know what? It 168 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 3: was a top of one of those buildings I think 169 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 3: where the restaurant rotated like a big deal back in 170 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:12,679 Speaker 3: like the late eighties early nineties. 171 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 2: Your dad designs missiles and bombs for the Department of Defense. 172 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, wow. 173 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 1: Was he artistic at all? 174 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 4: No, not at all. 175 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 3: But he used to bring home these things called witness plates, 176 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 3: and they're like one inch thick lead or steel or 177 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 3: I don't know, plates that they set up in concentric 178 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 3: circles outside of a target so that when they launch 179 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 3: a missile likes let's say, at a tank or whatever 180 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 3: it is on the ground and it explodes, you can 181 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:43,839 Speaker 3: tell the damage done by the witness plates. And so 182 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 3: he would bring home like this whatever thirty to fifty 183 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 3: pound plate of steel that was just contorted and bent 184 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 3: because it had been exploded. And I thought that would 185 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 3: be such a cool work of art, like a call display, 186 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 3: like these things have witnessed violence that none of us 187 00:08:57,679 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 3: should ever have to see. 188 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:01,200 Speaker 2: That is a great idea. And your dad's the one 189 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 2: who bought you your first base, right, he did. 190 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 1: That's cool. 191 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:06,319 Speaker 3: I wanted to play bass guitar. I had just gotten 192 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:09,679 Speaker 3: into the Cure when I moved to DC. I was 193 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:11,959 Speaker 3: just starting to get into my own solid music rather 194 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 3: than you know, my parents always listened to great music 195 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 3: when I was growing up. They listened to like Barry 196 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 3: Manilow and Neil Diamond and Stevie Wonder and Michael Jackson 197 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 3: and Elton John and Diana Ross and the Beg's and 198 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:27,840 Speaker 3: like all kinds of great by Kenny Rogers, Dolly Parton 199 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 3: and I love that. So I had a really strong 200 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 3: foundation for melody and great songwriting. And then I heard 201 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 3: The Cure and that was like great songwriting, great lyrics 202 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 3: and a style that I liked. And so when I 203 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 3: went to DC, I started finally feeling like myself and 204 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 3: dressing like myself, and so yeah. 205 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:45,599 Speaker 1: Is that when you became a little golf. 206 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:46,600 Speaker 4: That's when I became goth. 207 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:49,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I came, but yeah, I started spiking my hair out, 208 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 3: I started wearing darker clothes. By the time I was 209 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 3: a junior in high school, I was wearing like black 210 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:57,439 Speaker 3: eyeliner and sometimes bright red lipstick and sticking my hair 211 00:09:57,480 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 3: all up. 212 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 4: And I remember I went junior year. First class of 213 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:01,199 Speaker 4: the day. 214 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 3: Was metal shop, okay, And I walked into my metal 215 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 3: shop class, and my metal shop teachers like, all right, 216 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:10,960 Speaker 3: today we're gonna be learning about arc World. Oh my god, Mark, 217 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 3: what the hell what are you doing? And everyone turned 218 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 3: and looked at me in class, and I was like, what, 219 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 3: It's just my It's just my style. He's like, you're 220 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:24,559 Speaker 3: wearing lipstick. I was like, yeah, I know. It was 221 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 3: a listick that was bright red. It was full on 222 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 3: Robert Smith, like you know, you know, when like you 223 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:33,080 Speaker 3: get so into something, And I was so into the 224 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 3: Cure and they were so influential for me. And I 225 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 3: was wearing black eyeliner and spiking my hair up, wearing 226 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 3: bright red lipstick, but being like, it's not because I 227 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:39,680 Speaker 3: like the Cure. 228 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 4: I just think it's a cool style. You know, this 229 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 4: is my thing. 230 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 3: It just happens that Robert Smith does the exact same thing, 231 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 3: and that's the band I listened to all day long, 232 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 3: every day. 233 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:52,079 Speaker 1: Did your dad question that at all? 234 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 2: Because I try to imagine what it must be like 235 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:58,200 Speaker 2: for a parent to see your kid be one way 236 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 2: for fourteen or fifteen years and then kind of overnight 237 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:05,439 Speaker 2: change everything about their appearance and possibly their personality. 238 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 3: He was pretty cool with it, to be honest, for 239 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 3: as conservative as he is, like you know, not not 240 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:12,319 Speaker 3: politically or whatever, but just like he's a very middle 241 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 3: of the road baby boomer, work for the government. His 242 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 3: whole thing is like planning and being on time and 243 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 3: doing your best. And you know, he was an eagle scout. 244 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 3: He was like all this stuff, and so for me 245 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 3: to like show up one day wearing lipstick, he was 246 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:26,560 Speaker 3: he just kind of shook his head and was like, 247 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 3: just okay, just whatever. Plus I'm I'm jen X, and 248 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 3: my parents really just mostly left me alone. 249 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:36,320 Speaker 1: Right you were what raised you? 250 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 3: What raised me was let's see, you can't do that 251 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 3: on television. Okay, skateboarding, punk rock. 252 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:51,080 Speaker 1: Okay, that makes sense. Yeah, it all works. Did you 253 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 1: have a lot of the same interests. 254 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:56,440 Speaker 2: You've been very vocal about your fandoms Nintendo Baseball. 255 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 1: Star Wars yep. 256 00:11:57,520 --> 00:11:59,679 Speaker 2: Was was that your same jam growing up or did 257 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 2: you have other interests? 258 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:03,960 Speaker 3: It? Had no interest in sports whatsoever at all growing up. 259 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:06,559 Speaker 3: I'd like skateboarding, but I didn't like organized sports. I 260 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 3: didn't want to play. I played soccer a little bit 261 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:10,680 Speaker 3: when my parents made me when I was in fifth grade, 262 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 3: but I didn't love that. So my outlet athletically was 263 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:16,440 Speaker 3: skateboarding and going to shows. 264 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 1: Okay. 265 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 2: We also during that time where you made the transition 266 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 2: into being goth, you also discovered cigarettes. 267 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 4: Yeah. 268 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 1: Would you have been in major trouble had you been 269 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 1: caught smoking? Or did you ever? 270 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:30,440 Speaker 3: I got caught smoking when we were moving back from 271 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 3: washingt d c. To my town in the middle of 272 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:36,680 Speaker 3: the desert. We stopped in Las Vegas, went. 273 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 4: To Circus Circus. 274 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 1: Yeah. 275 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:40,679 Speaker 3: I had been secretly smoking for probably a year at 276 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 3: that point. And my Dad's like, I'm in a gamble. 277 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 3: You can't be on the floor, but you can go 278 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 3: upstairs to the arcade, Yeah, and play games up there. 279 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 4: Do whatever. 280 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 3: I'll meet you in an hour. And so, like I 281 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:54,080 Speaker 3: was smoking cigarettes and my dad came a little bit 282 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 3: early and he came around this corner and he saw 283 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 3: me and he goes, are you smoking? And I was 284 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 3: like yeah. He goes, do you smoke? I go yeah 285 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 3: a little bit. And he's like, ah, come on, Mark, 286 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 3: you're smarter than that. You know it's bad for you. 287 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:08,080 Speaker 3: And I was like, I know, I know. And then 288 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:09,959 Speaker 3: I ended up smoking for like another ten years. 289 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 1: Right. I did something very similar. 290 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:15,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I got caught smoking the first time with 291 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 2: my Mormon best friend from childhood, whose parents believed anything 292 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 2: we told them, and I my mom was not that 293 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:28,439 Speaker 2: type of mom. My mom was very much like very no. 294 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 2: So we got caught smoking. We got a ticket, We 295 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 2: got caught by the police. We got a ticket for California. 296 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:38,559 Speaker 2: In California, they gave us a ticket because we were 297 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:40,840 Speaker 2: in possession of the pack of cigarettes. So it wasn't 298 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:43,840 Speaker 2: just that you were we see you smoking, It was like, 299 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 2: you're not allowed to have these, So they wrote us 300 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 2: like a ticket. 301 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 1: We had to appear in court and that sucks so bad, 302 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 1: so bad. 303 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:56,200 Speaker 2: And I was living in Calabasas and I was caught 304 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 2: in Orange County, so it was like no even convenient 305 00:13:58,920 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 2: way we. 306 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 1: Were gonna have to go to an Orange County court. 307 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 2: So Jessica my best friend's parents pick us up and 308 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 2: we tell them we concoct this story that we were 309 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 2: with a group of people and they were smoking, not us, 310 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:14,560 Speaker 2: but they were smoking, and when the police saw us, 311 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:17,319 Speaker 2: all they just wrote everybody tickets, even though we were 312 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 2: not doing it. 313 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 1: Jessica's parents were like, well, that seems really unfair. 314 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 2: No problem, we'll just go to court and tell them 315 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 2: you're innocent and we'll get this whole thing worked out. 316 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 1: And I was like, whew, okay, And then we meet in. 317 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 2: Mantabello and my mom picks me up and we tell 318 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 2: my mom the story, and my mom's like. 319 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, all right, okay, well bye, it was 320 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 1: nice to see you. By Stephanie, by Jessica. We get in 321 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 1: the car, my mom goes, that's stories a bunch of 322 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 1: tell me what's really going on? 323 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 2: And I was like, oh, so, anyway, I was caught, 324 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 2: was in massive trouble, was grounded, wasn't allowed to go 325 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 2: to my school dance. Had a boyfriend at the time 326 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 2: who then he couldn't go to the dance because I 327 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 2: certainly wasn't gonna let him go with no can't go 328 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 2: without me. So anyway, I stopped smoking as long as 329 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 2: I lived under my parents' roof, and then uh just 330 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 2: immediately started again the minute I moved out and smoked 331 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 2: for way too long. 332 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, so I wish smoking wasn't bad. 333 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 3: I love so I look like an idiot, Like I 334 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 3: look back at pictures of myself and I'm like, you 335 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 3: look dumb as hell smoking cigarette. 336 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 4: But I felt cool. 337 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 1: I felt so cool. 338 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I wish if there was like one 339 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 2: wish that I could be like, I wish that wasn't 340 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 2: bad for you. 341 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, some cigarettes is nice. 342 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 1: Cigarettes is great. 343 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 2: Not only do we have teen Beat the podcast, we 344 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 2: have a brand new line of teen Beat shirts and 345 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 2: hoodies that not only celebrate the show, but honestly they're 346 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 2: just cool all on their own. To make it even cooler, 347 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 2: we made a one of one shirt just for this 348 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 2: very first episode to help commemorate mister Mark Hoppus, the 349 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 2: voice of Blink one eighty two, being my very first guest. 350 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 2: So I highly recommend you go check it out. It's 351 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 2: our first drop, available at teenbeatpod dot com. Go take 352 00:15:54,800 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 2: a look teenbeatpod dot com. Do you know why your 353 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 2: dad picked the bass if he was gonna when you 354 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 2: decided to buy. 355 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 3: You No, I wanted to play the bass I watched 356 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 3: I saw The Cure on MTV. They just like Heaven 357 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 3: Video and Simon Gallup. The bassis from the Cure just 358 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 3: looked so cool, and there was something about the bass 359 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 3: that I was drawn to. It was kind of the 360 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 3: bridge between the drums and the guitar and the melody 361 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 3: and whatever it was. I wanted to do that. Yeah, 362 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 3: So I asked my dad, can I get a bass guitar? 363 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 3: Where you buy me a bass guitar? And he said, 364 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 3: if you paint my girlfriend's house, I will girlriend girl friend. Yeah, 365 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 3: my stepmom. Now she's awesome. Yeah, we love her all good. 366 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 4: But yeah. 367 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 3: So I painted her condo in Washington, d C. In 368 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 3: the summer and it was like, you know, DC in 369 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 3: the summer is awful, humid, hot, stanky, just like and 370 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 3: I was out there painting her condo with makeup on, 371 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 3: my makeup running down my face. Here now a mine, Yeah, 372 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:06,440 Speaker 3: like this is why gods don't go outside. 373 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 4: But I did. 374 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 3: I painted her. I painted her condo and I got 375 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 3: a base and I still have it. Actually, that's so cool. 376 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 3: It was in the Fender Museum for a long time 377 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 3: until Fenner got sold and then then moved the headquarters. 378 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:19,440 Speaker 2: But yeah, well we are talking just a week after 379 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 2: rumors ran rampant that MTV shuddered its music channels for good, 380 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 2: and who knows what's actually happening there. I mean, it 381 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:30,440 Speaker 2: is a medium that not only inspired you, but is 382 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 2: a huge part of the Blink one eighty two story. 383 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:35,120 Speaker 2: You also met your wife thanks to MTV. I did 384 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 2: want to tell that story. 385 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:39,679 Speaker 3: She was an executive at MTV. She ran the West 386 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 3: Coast office of MTV. She coordinated and booked and dealt 387 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 3: with all the people for like the MTV Music Awards 388 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:51,479 Speaker 3: and the uh whatever other awards, the Movie Awards. 389 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 4: The VMA's fanatic. I met her well. 390 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:57,879 Speaker 3: The first time I met her was at Sports and 391 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:01,440 Speaker 3: Music Festival in like ninety five in Austin, and. 392 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:03,120 Speaker 4: We were a baby baby baby band. 393 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 3: I think it was like Offspring and Wu Tang and 394 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 3: a bunch of other like huge bands, and then like 395 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 3: we're this baby band, and I remember there was an 396 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 3: executive there who's kind of taking care of us. 397 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 4: I was like, that chick is really cool. And I 398 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 4: really like her. 399 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:15,640 Speaker 3: The next time I saw her was in the Bahamas 400 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:19,399 Speaker 3: at like a spring break thing. I had actually brought 401 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:23,200 Speaker 3: a girlfriend with me but had kind of like seen 402 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:25,880 Speaker 3: Sky again and been like, Oh, that's that lady from before. Yeah, 403 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 3: I really like her. And then I'd broken up with 404 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:30,640 Speaker 3: that girlfriend. And then Sky had booked blink onin eighty 405 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 3: two on making the video, and we were making the 406 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 3: video for All the Small Things, and making the video 407 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 3: was a half hour show that they would put and 408 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 3: it was all behind the scenes of the creation of 409 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:43,639 Speaker 3: a video and at the end they'd show the video. 410 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 3: And so it was For All the Small Things, which 411 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:47,960 Speaker 3: was the video that really broke us. And so the 412 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 3: day that I saw her, we were at the Third 413 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:53,200 Speaker 3: Street Dance Studio over on Third Street. We were upstairs. 414 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 3: We were dressed ridiculously. I was in like bright blue 415 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 3: leotards with like leg warmers on and a headband and 416 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:03,399 Speaker 3: like like we were because we were learning choreography for 417 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 3: the All the Small Things video, we thought it would 418 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:08,200 Speaker 3: be funny to dress up in these costumes. And Sky 419 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 3: was there and I was talking to Tom, and Tom 420 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:12,399 Speaker 3: always trying to embarrass me. So we walked over to 421 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:15,160 Speaker 3: Sky and he said, Hey, my friend Mark thinks you're hot. 422 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 3: Would you ever go on a date with him? And 423 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:20,200 Speaker 3: immediately she said absolutely not. I don't date artists. Oh 424 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:22,200 Speaker 3: And I was like, hey, I get that, totally cool, 425 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 3: understand it. 426 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:24,639 Speaker 4: Professional. Here's my number. 427 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:26,919 Speaker 3: If you ever want to talk or go get coffee 428 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 3: or whatever, just whatever, give me a call. Didn't think 429 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:32,120 Speaker 3: anything about it, thought she'd never call. Had a date 430 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 3: that night with Melissa Joanhart. Nice okay, who I had 431 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 3: just met at an award show and like I was 432 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 3: feeling cool, like blinkeredy too. We were on MTV. We're 433 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 3: filming a video. We're going to do the behind the 434 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 3: scenes thing you. 435 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:45,920 Speaker 4: To award show. 436 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:50,679 Speaker 3: Melissa Joan Hart had her publicist contact my publicist at 437 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 3: the label to get my number, and I was like, yeah, 438 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:54,200 Speaker 3: you know, I'm going to be up in LA film 439 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 3: in a music video. Maybe one day after the shoot 440 00:19:57,040 --> 00:19:59,399 Speaker 3: we can go out to dinner or something. So we 441 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 3: went out to on a date that night and we 442 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 3: just didn't connect. It was just like a boring day. 443 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:05,879 Speaker 3: She didn't like me, I didn't like her. We were 444 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 3: both totally cordial with one another. She dropped me back 445 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 3: off of the hotel at like whatever was ten o'clock 446 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 3: at night, eleven o'clock at night. I look at my 447 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 3: phone and I had missed a call and gotten a 448 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:18,359 Speaker 3: message from Sky. So I called her up and we 449 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:20,359 Speaker 3: talked until like three or four o'clock in the morning, 450 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 3: and then like we were married within a year. 451 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 2: Wow, where did you take her on your first date 452 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:27,640 Speaker 2: with her? 453 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:28,879 Speaker 4: We drove past. 454 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:30,920 Speaker 3: So the first time that I went on a date 455 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 3: with her, we went to a dive bar across the 456 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:36,160 Speaker 3: street on Highland called Powerhouse. 457 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:37,879 Speaker 1: I know Powerhouse. 458 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:39,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a place that light you smoke for 459 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:43,119 Speaker 2: a really long time after you were anymore. 460 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 3: Our birthday it was August sixth. It was her birthday. 461 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 3: So I met her August fourth. August fifth, we shot 462 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:50,959 Speaker 3: and I didn't get to go out with her that day. 463 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:53,159 Speaker 3: August sixth was the last day of the shoot. I 464 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:56,880 Speaker 3: took her out that night. We went to Powerhouse because 465 00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 3: it was her birthday, and we met up with a 466 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:01,879 Speaker 3: bunch of people there and we went She dropped me 467 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 3: off back of my hotel because I was there for 468 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 3: the shoot, and we kissed on Third Street at that 469 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:10,440 Speaker 3: hotel right down the street from What's Casuia. Now I 470 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 3: think it's called what's that hotel called? 471 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:13,160 Speaker 1: Now, the Dream? 472 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 4: N it's not the Dream. It's not that nice. 473 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:17,639 Speaker 3: Come on, okay anyway, So yeah, we kissed in the 474 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:20,640 Speaker 3: parking not in the parking lot, but in the little 475 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:21,639 Speaker 3: driveway of that hotel. 476 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:23,359 Speaker 1: Wow, that's cute. 477 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 4: Yep. But now we've been married twenty five years and 478 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:26,400 Speaker 4: we have a son. 479 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:27,640 Speaker 1: And how old your son? 480 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:28,440 Speaker 4: Twenty three? 481 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:29,640 Speaker 1: Wow? 482 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 3: Three twenty three? He's awesome. He is a great kid. 483 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 3: He has a job. He programs Call of Duty. Wow, 484 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:36,680 Speaker 3: that's his job. 485 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:36,960 Speaker 4: Yeah? 486 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 1: Does he play instruments? Does he is into music at all? 487 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:40,080 Speaker 4: You know? 488 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 3: Growing up he wanted a drum kits, so we bought 489 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 3: him a drum kit and that lasted for like a week. 490 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 3: And then he wanted a guitar and we got him 491 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 3: a guitar and that lasted like a week. But he 492 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:53,679 Speaker 3: was always very technical and into video when he was 493 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 3: a kid. That was in like fourth grade. What do 494 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:56,439 Speaker 3: you want to do when you grow up? I want 495 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 3: to program video games? 496 00:21:57,640 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 4: All right? Eva was such a bad parent. 497 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:01,679 Speaker 3: It's just like my dad was when I said I 498 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 3: wanted to play in a band, and he's like, that's great, 499 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:05,119 Speaker 3: never gonna. 500 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:07,639 Speaker 1: Happen, right, right, right, but you you keep up that dream. 501 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 4: Just make sure you have a backup plan. 502 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 3: And so when my son came to me and was like, 503 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 3: I want to program video games for a living, I'm like, yep, okay, great, 504 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:16,480 Speaker 3: not gonna happen, but you keep that dream alive. But 505 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:19,399 Speaker 3: he worked his ass off, went to college that a 506 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 3: double major, has always like studied how games work. And 507 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 3: it's more than just like he likes playing video games, 508 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:26,120 Speaker 3: like he looks into the mechanics of it and gets 509 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 3: on the programming. 510 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 2: And so, yeah, I mean, playing music in a band 511 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 2: is something that so many people want to do, and 512 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 2: yet so few people actually end up making. 513 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 1: It doing it. Why did you think video game programming 514 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 1: was something like that was never going to happen? 515 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 3: Just because when you talk to anybody, any like kid boy, 516 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 3: especially who's like ten or eleven years old, they're like 517 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 3: playing video games. 518 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 4: They're like, yeah, I want to play video games. 519 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 2: Okay, our kids are into video games too, but thankfully 520 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 2: they like playing them with us. Still, it's like they 521 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:57,119 Speaker 2: really only want to do it if we're going to 522 00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 2: play with them. So I'm like, I'm actually trying to 523 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:01,919 Speaker 2: encourage that with as many co op games as we 524 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:02,400 Speaker 2: can find. 525 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 3: I honestly, like my favorite memories of raising my son, 526 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 3: some of them were playing video games, like we got 527 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:11,159 Speaker 3: Zelda Twilight Princess when he was just a you know, 528 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 3: a small child. He couldn't really control the game too much, 529 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 3: so he would sit next to me on the couch 530 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 3: and we would play video games together. 531 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:18,440 Speaker 4: And it was such a great memory. 532 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:21,199 Speaker 3: And I credit video games with teaching him, you know, 533 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:24,880 Speaker 3: spatial learning and math and reading to some extent, and 534 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 3: logic and you know, really the games that he was 535 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 3: playing helped his development and helped him become a smarter person. 536 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 3: And like, I don't know, I don't think of video 537 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:36,439 Speaker 3: games is like a throwaway pastime. Yeah it can be, 538 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:39,359 Speaker 3: you know. And I still play video games with him now, 539 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:41,400 Speaker 3: but he's so much better than I am. We spent 540 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:44,119 Speaker 3: the holidays playing a game called Arc Raider, which is 541 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:46,679 Speaker 3: really popular right now, and he's great at it. Like 542 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:49,119 Speaker 3: he plays for hours and hours and hours with his friends, 543 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 3: and like I'm playing with him and he's just I'm 544 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:53,200 Speaker 3: just frustrating him. 545 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:54,879 Speaker 4: I suck so body. He's like, Dad, he's right behind you, 546 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 4: He's right behind you, what are you doing? Turn us 547 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 4: shoot his ass? 548 00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 1: What are you doing? 549 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:01,359 Speaker 3: And like robots are killing me? Yeah, and he just 550 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:02,919 Speaker 3: like shakes his head, but he's very patient. 551 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,480 Speaker 1: At least that's good. I want to talk. 552 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:07,479 Speaker 2: We've talked a lot about you and that time you 553 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:10,239 Speaker 2: spent in Washington, d C. How did you get back 554 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 2: to California because you went to college in San Diego. 555 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 3: I did, So we were living in this small town 556 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:18,639 Speaker 3: in California where my dad worked on a Navy base 557 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:20,480 Speaker 3: in the middle of the desert because that's where they 558 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 3: would test their missiles and bombs from planes. Then we 559 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:28,440 Speaker 3: moved to one year when I was a sophomore, to Washington, 560 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 3: d C. So we could work at the Pentagon, and 561 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,119 Speaker 3: then we moved back to the small town. Okay, And 562 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 3: when I graduated cob When I graduated high school, I 563 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 3: was playing in a band, and I was working at 564 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 3: a restaurant and just aimless, like I was waiting tables, 565 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 3: making pizzas, going to community college, playing in like a 566 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:45,119 Speaker 3: garage band. 567 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:47,240 Speaker 4: And then my dad kicked me out of the house. 568 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:50,239 Speaker 3: Well you didn't like kick me out, but he was like, 569 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 3: it's time for you to go to a real school. 570 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:55,399 Speaker 3: And go be an adult and get a job and 571 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 3: start your life. So I moved to San Diego to 572 00:24:57,359 --> 00:25:01,200 Speaker 3: go to college. My sister, my mom, and my stepdad 573 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 3: were living in San Diego, so I got in. So 574 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 3: I went to finish my community college in San Diego 575 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 3: and go to a four year school, which is cal 576 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 3: State San Marco. So I was studying to be an 577 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 3: English teacher. The day that I moved to San Diego, 578 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 3: like got up in the morning, loaded up my shitty 579 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 3: Nissan Stanza, drove from my small town down to San Diego. 580 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:24,119 Speaker 3: Halfway there, I was like, what am I going to 581 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:25,920 Speaker 3: do in this big city? Like I don't know anybody, 582 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:27,720 Speaker 3: I don't really want to get a job, and I 583 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 3: don't do anything. 584 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 4: I like playing music. 585 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 3: So we got to my parents' house or my mom's house, 586 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 3: unloaded my car, turn to my sister and I go, well, 587 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 3: what do I do now? Like I want to play music, 588 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 3: and what do I do? I put an ad in 589 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 3: a paper? Do I put like, you know, bassist wants 590 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:44,480 Speaker 3: mediocre bandmates or whatever? And my sister was like, my 591 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 3: boyfriend has a friend who plays guitar, loves punk rock, 592 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:49,879 Speaker 3: loves skateboarding. 593 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:50,640 Speaker 4: You should meet him. 594 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 3: So we got in the car that night, drove over 595 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 3: to this guy's house and it was Tom. 596 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 1: Wow, you were like set up on a friend date. 597 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, blind friend date, but it went great. Like I 598 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 3: went into his garage where he had his bedroom because 599 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 3: his parents were going through a bad divorce, so he 600 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:08,399 Speaker 3: moved into his garage and we started playing music and 601 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 3: laughing and hanging out, and that night we wrote a 602 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:11,440 Speaker 3: song that. 603 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:12,880 Speaker 4: We still play today. It's called Carousel. 604 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 2: I wonder if that's the only story of meeting a 605 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:20,240 Speaker 2: guy who has a bedroom in his garage and going 606 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:22,879 Speaker 2: into it on your first blind meeting, that's is the 607 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:23,879 Speaker 2: only story that's worked out? 608 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:25,199 Speaker 4: Well? Yeah, absolutely. 609 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:29,119 Speaker 2: I don't recommend that for most blind dates, but it 610 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:32,239 Speaker 2: did pay off in the situation. Yeah did Okay, So 611 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 2: how quickly do the two of you form? 612 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:36,640 Speaker 1: Blink one E two? 613 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 3: Immediately we were like, we want to play music together. 614 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:43,359 Speaker 3: Tom had already started playing some shows and not shows, 615 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 3: but like backyard parties and stuff with a guy named 616 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 3: Scott who ended up being our first drummer. So yeah, 617 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 3: like you know, the next day Tom called up. It 618 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:52,639 Speaker 3: was like, hey, let's keep writing songs, let's get and 619 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:55,359 Speaker 3: so we just started doing stuff. Tom was ending high school. 620 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 3: I was still in community college. Scott was in high school, 621 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:01,720 Speaker 3: and that it all began there in ninety two. 622 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 2: Did your dad ever say to you when I said 623 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:06,400 Speaker 2: it was time for you to launch? I didn't mean 624 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:10,040 Speaker 2: just go move into your mom's house and start playing 625 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 2: music at backyard parties. 626 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 3: No, my dad didn't think that our band was successful. 627 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 3: So I was ninety two. My dad didn't think our 628 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 3: band was successful until ninety nine, when it was like 629 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:22,680 Speaker 3: ninety nine or maybe even two thousand. We played on 630 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:26,160 Speaker 3: the Jay Leno Show. Wow, oh, that's the night show. 631 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:26,480 Speaker 4: With Jay Leno. 632 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:30,120 Speaker 2: That is for sure, a dad, Oh, this is official 633 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 2: anything below the Jay Leno Show. 634 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 4: No, not a story. 635 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 3: And he'd been coming to shows and stuff. He'd seen 636 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:39,440 Speaker 3: us play in front of larger and larger venues. Yeah, 637 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:42,359 Speaker 3: but somehow coming to that show. And Richard Simmons was 638 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:42,960 Speaker 3: one of the guests. 639 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 1: Okay, you and Richard Simmons. 640 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 3: So we're all in the dressing room the green room 641 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 3: before the show, and my dad's hanging out and like 642 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 3: my future wife's parents were there whatever, and the door 643 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 3: flies open and this dude comes in Blink twenty two 644 00:27:58,119 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 3: and it's Richard Simmons. 645 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 4: I never met the guy. He comes barely in. 646 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,960 Speaker 3: He comes in, he goes, hey, blakewiny too, and he 647 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:08,960 Speaker 3: comes and he grabs Tom and he gives him a 648 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:13,359 Speaker 3: kiss on the cheek. Same with me, same with Travis. 649 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,359 Speaker 3: And I go, uh hey, Richard, what's going on? We 650 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 3: start talking. I go, so, how do I get in shape? 651 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:19,920 Speaker 3: Want to be as in shape as you? And he is, oh, please, 652 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:23,200 Speaker 3: I'm old enough to be your dad. And my dad goes, actually, 653 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 3: I'm his dad. And Richard Simmons goes dad and grabs 654 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:28,960 Speaker 3: him and gives him a giant kiss on the cheek, 655 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:31,920 Speaker 3: and then he runs out of the room. And then 656 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,399 Speaker 3: we go and we play on jay Leno. That's the 657 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:36,720 Speaker 3: photo right there. That's the one that's when my dad 658 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 3: kissed Richard Simmons. Your dad is so happy, he's so happy, 659 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 3: he's so happy with that kiss. 660 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 4: Yeah. 661 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 3: And so that was when my dad's like, oh, if 662 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 3: Richard Simmons knows who my son is, then he must 663 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 3: be fak. 664 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 2: Richard Simmons and Jay Leno give my son's band a 665 00:28:51,960 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 2: sign of it. Wow, that's pretty great. What would high 666 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 2: school Mark Coppus have thought about? Number one on TRL. 667 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 2: Mark Coppus e Ben Stoked. 668 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. 669 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I grew up watching MTV, you know, 670 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:20,480 Speaker 3: even before. I remember the summer that MTV happened, and 671 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 3: like it was a big deal. My dad was always 672 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:24,560 Speaker 3: a fan of music, and I remember him and my 673 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 3: uncle being like, oh my gosh, there's a channel where 674 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 3: you can watch music on TV. And we were watching 675 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 3: like the Police, and we were watching like all these 676 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:35,000 Speaker 3: original videos. And I remember when Michael Jackson's thriller video 677 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:39,200 Speaker 3: came out. It was a huge deal. Like people stayed home, 678 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 3: people like made plans to be home or whatever. It 679 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 3: was eight o'clock at night to watch the premiere of 680 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 3: this thriller video directed by John Landis, who did like, 681 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:47,040 Speaker 3: you know, all this cool stuff. 682 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 1: Yep. 683 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 4: So yeah, MTV was a big deal for me. 684 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:52,960 Speaker 3: So knowing that our band was on MTV and was 685 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 3: doing well on MTV, I think I'd have been stoked. 686 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 2: So you and Tom, how did you guys then meet 687 00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 2: Travis and then the three of you start doing shows? 688 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:03,560 Speaker 3: Well, we met Travis just by playing a lot of 689 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:06,840 Speaker 3: shows around southern California and. 690 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 4: Then we did a tour. 691 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 3: It was he played a man called the Aquabats and 692 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,400 Speaker 3: we did a tour it was Primus Blanquidity two in 693 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:16,240 Speaker 3: the Aquabats. It was called the Snowcore Tour, and it 694 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 3: took place during the winter, and it was a tour 695 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 3: that we performed punk rock music at snowboard competitions. 696 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:24,240 Speaker 1: So cool. 697 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:25,720 Speaker 4: So you were touring in the dead. 698 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:29,320 Speaker 3: Of winter in snowboard mountains, so it was always icy, 699 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 3: always cold, always bleak. And Travis smoked and drank. But 700 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:37,920 Speaker 3: he was playing in the Aquabats a lot of whom 701 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 3: are Mormon who didn't smoke or drink, and so he 702 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 3: would always come onto our bus and smoke with us, 703 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:45,480 Speaker 3: and like we would hang out. That was back when 704 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 3: everybody would smoke on a bush. Yeah, And so we 705 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:52,520 Speaker 3: became friends with Travis that way. And then our drummer 706 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:56,120 Speaker 3: was having some personal stuff going on had to leave tour. 707 00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:58,920 Speaker 4: Travis filled in. It was great. 708 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:00,960 Speaker 3: When Travis filled in, was like, oh man, this is 709 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:05,400 Speaker 3: something different, there's something cool. Yeah, and then like the 710 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:07,560 Speaker 3: situation came to a head with our drummer. Our drummer 711 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 3: left the band and then like at that point it 712 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:10,920 Speaker 3: was like, oh, Travis. 713 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:11,040 Speaker 4: Is the guy. 714 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:14,720 Speaker 2: So what were those early Blink one shows like were 715 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:17,520 Speaker 2: they always did they always feel like a success? 716 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,520 Speaker 4: Yes, at least to us. 717 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:24,280 Speaker 3: I mean, when Tom and I are on stage, we 718 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:26,600 Speaker 3: really performed from one another, almost more than we perform 719 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 3: for the crowd. Like if I can make Tom laugh, 720 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 3: that's a good thing. If I can make Travis laugh, 721 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:34,400 Speaker 3: that's a big thing. And so Tom and I we 722 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:37,840 Speaker 3: leave on tour and we start joking around and we 723 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:41,000 Speaker 3: try and say some outrageous stuff. But then the next 724 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 3: night it gets a little further, and the next night 725 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 3: gets a little further, and the next Like I remember, 726 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:47,480 Speaker 3: at one point we were on tour and our manager 727 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 3: pulled us aside because we were on a tour called 728 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 3: the Mark, Tom and Travis Show Tour. And Tom had 729 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:56,400 Speaker 3: this idea that if you took a vocal effect that 730 00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 3: pitches your voice down and octave, you can grab a 731 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:01,320 Speaker 3: microphone and you can act like you're Satan. 732 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 4: Talking directly to the audience. 733 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,000 Speaker 3: And so I remember we were on tour one time 734 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:07,680 Speaker 3: and after the show, our manager's like, hey, can I 735 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:08,840 Speaker 3: talk to you guys for a second, And he calls 736 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:10,560 Speaker 3: us into his office and he goes, I think you're 737 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:11,880 Speaker 3: taking a little farm. We're like, what are you talking 738 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:14,200 Speaker 3: about He's like, well, when Tom gets on the microphone, 739 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,080 Speaker 3: he acts like Satan and he says, hey, kids, I'm. 740 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 4: Here to your blood. It's a little too far. 741 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:23,040 Speaker 1: Back, is the line? 742 00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:24,120 Speaker 4: Yes, the line it. 743 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:28,440 Speaker 3: We're like, Okay, that makes sense, got it? Roger copy that. Nope, 744 00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:28,960 Speaker 3: your blood? 745 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 4: Got it? 746 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 1: Has your sense of humor changed it all? Since you 747 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:35,040 Speaker 1: were no so stupid? 748 00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:39,080 Speaker 3: It's so dumb. Literally, for the past two years. We 749 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:41,240 Speaker 3: played one hundred and seventy five shows in the past 750 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 3: two years since the band reformed, since we played Coachella 751 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:46,240 Speaker 3: in twenty twenty three, one hundred and seventy five shows. 752 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:50,480 Speaker 3: Literally Tom and I and we're we're traveling so comfortably, 753 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:53,600 Speaker 3: private jets, five star hotels, people carrying our luggage like 754 00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:55,320 Speaker 3: we don't do any but Tom and I after the 755 00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:57,400 Speaker 3: show get on the plane and we were just making 756 00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 3: dick jokes on a private jet with like, you know, 757 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:04,280 Speaker 3: champagne and. 758 00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:05,240 Speaker 1: Like eating caviar. 759 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:06,120 Speaker 4: Making totally. 760 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 3: It's like professional people dealing with me and Tom talking 761 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:11,480 Speaker 3: talking dick jokes. 762 00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 4: It's so funny. I love it. It's great. 763 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:16,360 Speaker 1: Would teenage Mark have been on social media? 764 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:18,120 Speaker 4: Uh? 765 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:21,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, probably, I don't think that. I mean adult Mark 766 00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:23,920 Speaker 3: has enough problem, enough trouble staying off social media. I 767 00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:26,080 Speaker 3: don't think that, you know, teenage Mark would have done 768 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:26,560 Speaker 3: much better. 769 00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:29,040 Speaker 4: It's awful. I hate it. 770 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:31,280 Speaker 1: I know I hate it, and I also can't stay 771 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:31,720 Speaker 1: away from it. 772 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 3: I know it's just the hot stove that you can't 773 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:36,040 Speaker 3: stop touching. 774 00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:37,320 Speaker 1: Yep, that's true. 775 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 2: Did you guys ever contemplate adding a dedicated guitarist because 776 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 2: you are a rare trio in rock? 777 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:43,400 Speaker 4: No? 778 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:47,440 Speaker 3: Okay, no, I you know, I have nothing but crazy 779 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:50,000 Speaker 3: respect for bands like Foo Fighters or Green Day or 780 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:52,080 Speaker 3: anybody else who's like this core band, but then they 781 00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:56,160 Speaker 3: add additional musicians on you know, no doubt. But for us, 782 00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:57,800 Speaker 3: Blink has always just been the three of us. So 783 00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:00,680 Speaker 3: when you know, it's the three of us. And then 784 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,520 Speaker 3: when we had keyboards, we didn't have a keyboard player. 785 00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:07,160 Speaker 3: We had our friend Roger Joseph Manning Junior from Jellyfish 786 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:10,279 Speaker 3: come in and he did all the keyboard parts, but 787 00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:13,000 Speaker 3: he wasn't touring, and so we would use track for those, 788 00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:15,920 Speaker 3: and we still use track for keyboards. But on stage, 789 00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:17,840 Speaker 3: I just want to see the band, right. 790 00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:21,600 Speaker 1: Okay, that makes sense. Yeah, I don't want to. 791 00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:25,000 Speaker 2: Keep the theme song from our listeners any longer. 792 00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:28,040 Speaker 1: I would really like to play it. 793 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:32,439 Speaker 2: We officially have the coolest theme song in all of podcasting. 794 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:33,000 Speaker 4: Thank you. 795 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:36,719 Speaker 1: Yeah. It's pretty great, written, performed, recorded all. 796 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:39,880 Speaker 2: By Mark Oppus. This will begin every episode moving forward, 797 00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:41,799 Speaker 2: and it's eventually going to chart on Spotify. I know 798 00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:45,319 Speaker 2: it then single handedly bring back MTV. Yeah, so thank 799 00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:48,200 Speaker 2: you for this. Absolutely, Thank you so much, Mark for everything. 800 00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:50,759 Speaker 2: I couldn't be more excited to be connected to you 801 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:52,120 Speaker 2: through this theme song forever. 802 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:54,640 Speaker 1: Moving forward, let's get into the theme song. 803 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:19,480 Speaker 4: That's okay, I was doing it. 804 00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:23,920 Speaker 1: I love it. 805 00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:27,080 Speaker 3: So the thing at the end is literally because I 806 00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:30,320 Speaker 3: had turned in the I had turned in the song, 807 00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:34,920 Speaker 3: and then Jensen, your husband, was like, uh, what a 808 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:36,239 Speaker 3: fun Is there a way to work in like a 809 00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:38,200 Speaker 3: teen beat in there somehow? And I'm like, yeah, but 810 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:40,040 Speaker 3: not the way that it is right now. We need 811 00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:42,239 Speaker 3: to go teen beat? And I had I immediately knew 812 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:45,040 Speaker 3: what the song needed, but I was gone and my 813 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:47,560 Speaker 3: engineer was gone, and so literally I think it was 814 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:52,000 Speaker 3: New Year's Day. I have that torn out and I'm like, okay, 815 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:55,000 Speaker 3: we need to shout teen beat. So like everyone's kind 816 00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:55,400 Speaker 3: of hung. 817 00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:57,080 Speaker 4: Over from New year's and we're all like weird. 818 00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:59,560 Speaker 3: We're like it's sitting in our kitchen going teen beat 819 00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:03,239 Speaker 3: into my phone and sending it to the engineer to 820 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:04,080 Speaker 3: drop into the song. 821 00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:07,120 Speaker 1: Perfect. Who are you with? I need to know? Is 822 00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:08,160 Speaker 1: this a family teen beat? 823 00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:09,680 Speaker 4: Yeah? It was me, my wife and my son. 824 00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:13,719 Speaker 1: I love that so much more. That's just perfect. 825 00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:16,400 Speaker 2: Thank you all so much for listening to this episode 826 00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:19,080 Speaker 2: of teen Beat. We will have a small bonus episode 827 00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:21,319 Speaker 2: for you with Mark on Friday on the teen beat 828 00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:24,799 Speaker 2: Feed and an awkward teenage story from one of you. 829 00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:26,680 Speaker 1: We would love to. 830 00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:30,279 Speaker 2: Hear all of your awkward teenage stories. Send us a 831 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:34,520 Speaker 2: concise voice memo to Teenbeatpod at gmail dot com and 832 00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:38,080 Speaker 2: maybe we'll play your story on the pod. Also, don't 833 00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:40,719 Speaker 2: forget to follow us on Instagram and TikTok at teen 834 00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:41,320 Speaker 2: beat Pod. 835 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:42,680 Speaker 1: Teen Beat is. 836 00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:46,360 Speaker 2: An iHeart podcast produced and hosted by Danielle Fischel, Executive 837 00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:49,800 Speaker 2: producers Jensen Karp and Amy Sugarman, Executive in charge of 838 00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:54,360 Speaker 2: production Danielle Romo, producer and editor Tara Suboch. The theme 839 00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:59,280 Speaker 2: song is by mar Coppus. Yes that Mark Coppus. Follow 840 00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:01,520 Speaker 2: us on Instagram. I'm at Team b Pod