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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, another guy from straight out of high school.

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Speaker 2: Man. You know us cute.

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Speaker 1: You know what's us straight out of high school boys?

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Speaker 1: You know, just case you didn't know, We're definitely excited

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Speaker 2: Bro Man.

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Speaker 1: You know, I feel real special for the guys that

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Speaker 1: my favorite because you're a guard that went straight out

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Speaker 3: A small guy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah to dode as a guard like you the Mantee's

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Speaker 1: is you know what I'm saying, Like, yeah, like them

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Speaker 1: a special guys. When you first got to the league,

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Speaker 1: who's the first person to bush you at shit?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: It had the days that he did practice, I had to,

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Speaker 4: I had to deal with that ship, you know what

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Speaker 4: I'm saying. But that was one of the best experiences

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Speaker 4: I could have had, you know, coming into the league,

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Speaker 4: not just on the competitive aspect, but you know, that

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Speaker 4: was my idol. That was who I model my game after,

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Speaker 4: somebody I looked up to. So they had that that

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Speaker 4: one on one that crash. Course, you know what I'm

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Speaker 4: saying that was the best source of confidence that I

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: But Chuck definitely had his ways. You know he has

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Speaker 4: said it in his in his Hall of Fame speech.

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Speaker 4: You made me cry practice what that? You know what

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Speaker 4: I'm saying. I don't remember that ship, but I know

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Speaker 4: it was a lot of days that.

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Speaker 2: You know, frustrated for sure.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, because I'm competitive and I'm trying to

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Speaker 4: I'm a kid, you know what I'm saying, So you

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Speaker 4: know how it is when you're trying to prove the

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. I had a crime moment

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Speaker 2: my crowd, remember remember Minnesota.

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Speaker 1: He was in Minnesota, bro, and you know we're playing

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Speaker 1: because they was calling me baby KG. I want to

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Speaker 1: play my best and play hardest here. So I'm my third,

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Speaker 1: giving my all and I just felt like the motherfuckers

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Speaker 1: motherfucker was so frustrating. I'm trying to talk, my voice

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Speaker 3: Ship like motherfuck just quit.

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Speaker 1: And these two goof dude fucking Cory Kean and Q

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Speaker 1: is bugging up. They ain't even taking me nowhere nursing.

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Speaker 2: Nobody can take him serious because he don't ever care.

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Speaker 2: But I don't ever really but I don't never really

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Speaker 2: say nothing. You know what I'm saying. I wasn't going

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Speaker 1: When I said something, boy, I tear it up like

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Speaker 1: aug So I understand you.

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Speaker 2: Bro like that frustrates they don't know nothing about that.

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Speaker 3: Man becomes talking the whole time. Yeah, you know what

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Speaker 3: I'm saying, a little punk.

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Speaker 4: I'm like, bro, you're gonna get off of Meg, you

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Speaker 3: And coach got something to say.

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Speaker 4: You know, you're that rookie and let alone, you're seventeen

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Speaker 3: That everybody on your head.

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Speaker 5: Yo yo yo. We live on location. We all way

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Speaker 5: out here, all laying. Y'all were visible with a Rizon

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Speaker 5: no right blackest one were visible with Verison Man. We

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Speaker 5: got the three times, three times, three times six.

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Speaker 2: Man of the Year in the NBA. One Just to

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Speaker 5: Legendary Lou Lou Wheelville in the building out.

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Speaker 2: Here in LA.

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Speaker 5: We appreciate you, brother pulling bonus y'all tapped in, presented

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Speaker 2: I didn't know you was from Memphis. You was born

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Speaker 3: But that's a little well kept secret.

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Speaker 4: People don't get credit for for you because well, I'm Memphis.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, my family Memphis. I'm Black Havenson all day.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, straight up Atlanta. I used to hear about you

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Speaker 4: We were just having that conversation today, my man, my man,

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Speaker 4: Chuck Elis asked me, like, when did you know you

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Speaker 4: And I was probably like eighth ninth grade when you know,

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Speaker 4: And so I think eighth ninth grade is when my

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Speaker 1: You that confident when you got to high school, because

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Speaker 1: you know, high school is that next level. You hop

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Speaker 2: Is you good enough to play varsity? You know what

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Speaker 1: And once you got on that varsity level, it was like,

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Speaker 2: When did you feel like, oh I can?

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Speaker 4: I mean, So my story is funny because the last

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Speaker 3: I always was with the varsity.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Like I never practiced one day JV practice one

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Speaker 3: From day one high school, I was. I was varsity.

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Speaker 5: So did you walked straight through the doors with confidence

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Because shit, he picked me up from school, so I'm like,

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 4: I was there for the whole transition, complete transition. Soa

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Speaker 4: like I belong right away.

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Speaker 2: So junior year, you win, mister basketball.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was it was lit by then.

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Speaker 5: How did how did this field coming into that year?

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Speaker 5: What was your Swagen conference.

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Speaker 1: When mister basketball with d White and Josh in the

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Speaker 3: No, it was it was special because I'm gonna tell

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Speaker 3: you all my Dwight House story. So I was so Dwight.

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Speaker 4: Lived damn the hour for me in Atlanta. I'm way

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Speaker 4: Atlanta Christians. So he won a five. We the five.

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Speaker 2: Years the different class.

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Speaker 4: So we're in two completely different classes. He in the

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Speaker 4: up to go see him. Dwhite Howard dunked the basketball

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Speaker 3: Thunder can't do nothing with him. He was a man

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Speaker 3: amongst boys, Bro, So for me to get one in

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Speaker 2: Bro.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, it's smooth. You know, I

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Speaker 4: It went to okill. So it was either me or

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Speaker 4: I mean it was on there.

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Speaker 3: But I'm a guard and i'ma score a lot of points,

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Speaker 2: What's you averaged in high school?

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Speaker 3: I think that one was thirty seven? That was like

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Speaker 3: that was my golden year?

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Speaker 5: Did you have? Everybody? The gym was packed. They was

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Speaker 4: With all that, Yeah, we had, we should We sold

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Speaker 4: season tickets. Yeah, we sold season tickets to the high school.

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Speaker 1: Guys raving about you. And they was like little Will

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Speaker 4: I watched Bassie that whole, like, you know, Bassie is

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so I'm studying him even though I'm a.

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Speaker 4: Scoring guard and he was more of a distributor. I

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Speaker 4: You know, he had the movie the TV shows like

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Speaker 4: my blueprint was watching was watching him.

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Speaker 2: You felt that that was a chance because I was wondering.

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Speaker 1: I was like, man, you know, d White went out.

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Speaker 4: Like I I ain't never heard none of the guys

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Speaker 4: tell the story. But we was in. We was in

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Speaker 4: them in Colorado for.

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Speaker 3: USA USA, and we all, yeah, we.

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Speaker 4: Me, monte Gerald, Green, Martell Webster, Amir Johnson.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to disrespect nobody. C J. Miles was

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Speaker 4: We all watched the draft together and me and Montey

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Speaker 4: lost our minds when we seen Sebastian get drafted, because

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Speaker 4: that was like, oh the door open for us.

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Speaker 1: When God, you played against Sebastian in the pros, you

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Speaker 3: Never preps he was. He was a DTA Circle. I

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Speaker 3: was Nike Circus.

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Speaker 1: Never never met never like size the month it was pros.

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Speaker 5: So wait, tell me about like take me back to that.

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Speaker 5: Were y'all at Colorado Springs? Yes, what's the reactions that

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Speaker 1: Me like it was crazy than me because I was like, man,

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Speaker 2: I didn't think he was gonna go that high.

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Speaker 4: We was turned and we had a meeting. We had

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Speaker 4: in there. After the draft, were like, what we're gonna do? Going,

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Speaker 4: Yeah he could take the first one. Said man, I'm gone.

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Speaker 3: Take country as he was the first one, Mississippi.

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Speaker 2: I'm gone.

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Speaker 3: I never forget that he was the first one.

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Speaker 2: And that was like six. What made you decide to go?

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Speaker 4: It was like, you gotta think it was all of

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Speaker 3: I think all of us declaire for the draft.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: We all declared because we all had the opportunity. We

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Speaker 1: It was more scary, Like for me, it was more scary,

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Speaker 1: like even though they were like, yeah, you can, you

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Speaker 2: In between that. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: I seen colon On Young play against Q and him

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Speaker 1: I'm saying, he looked like a man more than anybody

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Speaker 2: I know he's finna go league.

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Speaker 4: My mindset was I didn't want to go to college regardless,

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Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, Like we didn't have the

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Speaker 3: Now, you know you can.

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Speaker 4: Go prep, well league and all of that shit. We

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. I just knew I wasn't

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Speaker 4: I didn't want to go, So it didn't it didn't

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, I wouldn't.

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Speaker 2: I wasn't.

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't go on nobody's school.

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Speaker 2: I just never take that chance.

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Speaker 3: I never It never appealed to me.

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Speaker 4: Y'all mean to tell me, wake up at six in

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Speaker 2: You want to do.

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Speaker 3: It never did.

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Speaker 2: You ain't care where you went. You wanted to show

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Speaker 4: I slid in the draft because I was a kid seventeen,

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Speaker 4: I ain't really understand.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what you just got yourself into?

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Speaker 5: Naivens hell, How did you approach your you know, the workouts?

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Speaker 5: Would you say you slid because of that approach?

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Speaker 3: First workout was in Memphis, so are you from.

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Speaker 4: I'm up all night with my family playing Space, We're chilling.

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Speaker 4: I might have had some barbecue. I think I had

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Speaker 3: Nine o'clock. The next morning, I went through the hardest

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Speaker 1: Been through that, so you would have been through and

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Speaker 1: went through the preparation of getting ready for the draft.

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Speaker 4: We was working out. But none can get you ready

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Speaker 4: for that. Yeah, nothing for real can get you, you

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Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, until until you go through it

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Speaker 4: and then you make your adjustments. But I just I

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Speaker 4: didn't understand how serious because I'm the Natesmith Player of

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Speaker 4: I was wrong, you know what I'm saying. This ship

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Speaker 4: that taught me how the workhouse did you do. I

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Speaker 4: think I did nine total with eight teams. I did

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Speaker 4: Detroit twice because I came in for Detroit. Larry Brown

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Speaker 4: was there, came in for Detroit, worked out for them.

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Speaker 4: He brought me back and then the second workout, he said,

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Speaker 4: I just wanted to see if he was in better

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Speaker 5: Take me back to your draft. Where did you think

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Speaker 5: you saw that? Like, man, I'm going to the sixers,

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Speaker 5: like you said, with Ai, somebody.

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Speaker 2: You look up to, Like, where were you at? You

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Speaker 4: Was an ESPN zone in Atlanta. I had a draft

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Speaker 4: party at ESPN Zon and at that time Bill Duffy

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Speaker 4: and associates Merle Scott, they was representing me at BD

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Speaker 4: eight and I think we had a promise at twenty

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Speaker 4: seven with Miami at that time, and once Miami hit

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Speaker 4: college Player of the Year was still on the board,

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Speaker 4: Wayne sent me. Wayne was still on the board at

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Speaker 4: going already ended up taking him. The Hawks had the

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Speaker 4: thirty first pick, the first pick in the second round.

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Speaker 4: They told us they didn't want to take another guard

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Speaker 4: from her. They didn't want to take another hometown kid

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Speaker 4: and have two hometown kids sitting on the bench because

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Speaker 4: they had just took Josh the year before and Kevin

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Speaker 3: Wasn't getting no playing time.

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Speaker 4: And then if they had drafted me, you know, you

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Speaker 4: took Selim start of Mark at thirty one. They took Selim,

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Speaker 4: and shit, after that, I was depressed because I hadn't

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Speaker 4: it's over. And you know I had I just along

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Speaker 4: with some you know, obviously talent. My agent represented more cheeks,

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Speaker 4: and so I think my agent kind of asked him like,

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Speaker 4: if y'all ain't doing nothing with this pic, y'all need

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Speaker 4: to take this kid. And Philly took me. You know,

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Speaker 4: they wasn't even on my radar. Ain't know what was

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Speaker 4: going on. Yeah, they took me at forty five, and

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Speaker 4: I was so naive, like I'm like I made the team.

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Speaker 2: Like, you know what I'm saying. I thought I thought

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Speaker 2: I was lit. You didn't know you gotta still make

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So we ended up negotiating with them where they

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Speaker 4: gave me a guaranteed deal because I was a high

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Speaker 4: three years. And so me knowing that they guaranteed my deal,

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Speaker 4: I got three years. AI here, I'm probably not gonna play.

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Speaker 4: In my head, I had three years to get it together.

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Speaker 4: So that's how that's how I went into it. That's

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Speaker 4: how I looked at it.

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Speaker 1: One thing I don't stand out to me, definitely, Me

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Speaker 1: and Q we always took like, man, how bad they

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Speaker 1: talked about Josh Smith doing his draft You know what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying, They like threw us off, Like man, this

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Speaker 1: kid just got drafted. And they talked.

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Speaker 4: They said, he said the Sixes don't he feels sorry

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Speaker 4: for my family. The Sixers donated me a jersey.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like we spoke.

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Speaker 3: Me and him spoke about it since then. But he

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Speaker 1: Like that was when I think, like, that's why I said,

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Speaker 1: like the straight out especialist for us like be scared

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Speaker 3: Like who is this?

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Speaker 2: My is it should be a rule?

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Speaker 5: Like I remember specifically smooth draft, like I want to

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Speaker 5: say it was Jay billis like Bro, him talking.

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Speaker 2: Like like this is like you know how it is.

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Speaker 5: Bro, all of us don't matter what pick you got

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Speaker 5: to pick your whole everybody who's ever known you, this

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Speaker 5: is your biggest day in your life to this point,

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Speaker 5: and everybody who you don't even remember seeing you and

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Speaker 5: knowing you and everything.

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Speaker 2: You don't need some ass clown up on the screen.

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Speaker 5: On TV Tombo, Yeah, this is gonna be the biggest

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Speaker 5: bust to the draft. And he's did like, bro, save

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Speaker 5: all your opinions for them, am.

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Speaker 3: Bro, Like how would you with your kid and you

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Speaker 3: got somebody this commentation doing this to your kid at

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Speaker 3: that fucking moment, like broids one day and.

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Speaker 5: Then you want that imp and you want all of

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Speaker 5: that Like nah, bro, Like come on, man, like I

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Speaker 5: don't care who it is, one through whatever the last

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Speaker 5: pick is.

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Speaker 2: Nobody that's off limits. Bro.

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Speaker 5: You can't not tonight, we can't criticize you could do

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Speaker 5: all of the grading and what you think after this,

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Speaker 5: but like right now that we don't need you'll critical opinions,

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Speaker 5: and like this is the biggest night of our life.

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Speaker 5: Let us have this before you go in on our

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Speaker 5: ass and start critiquing us and shitting on us right away, Like,

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Speaker 5: let us have this, bro, like Grandmama's people, like families

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Speaker 5: is changing lives right now, y'all gonna do this. I

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Speaker 5: don't want to hear your opinion, give me your grades

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Speaker 5: and all that after the fact.

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Speaker 2: Networks get in tune with it, bro, Like nah.

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Speaker 1: Bro, we was thinking because when we said we was like, damn,

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Speaker 1: that's just totally bolus this boy.

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Speaker 2: Families out here and.

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Speaker 1: Who you think even the people who didn't make the draft,

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Speaker 1: they just to hear it, like you just bashing the

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Speaker 2: Day real talk. Wait, nobody, like come on, man.

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Speaker 1: So now you're in the league and you in the

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Speaker 1: league with Chuck, but you know you're not finna really play.

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Speaker 1: You gotta earn your keyp take us through that process

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Speaker 1: of like, man, like finding your way because like your

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Speaker 1: career is so good to me. You know a lot

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Speaker 1: of people won't see nobody career like yours. That you

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Speaker 1: have played on so many teams, like you haven't had

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Speaker 1: a successful career.

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Speaker 2: That's the outside looking in. But us, who's part of this.

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Speaker 1: We know what you done, brought to the table, and

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Speaker 1: what you done did no matter if you be on

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Speaker 1: a different team every year, you always yeah, you always

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Speaker 1: bring something.

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Speaker 2: How was it? Like?

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Speaker 1: You know you're coming up with AI. You seeing all

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Speaker 1: this and it's hard to watch Chuck. It's hard to

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Speaker 1: watch Chuck if you see Chuck do something and then

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Speaker 1: you be like, man, how he come from that? And

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Speaker 1: then he's go thirty something that not.

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Speaker 3: He different from everybody?

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Like it's hard to watch him.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, But the thing that I did have in my

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Speaker 4: positive influence for me, I had Dug Overton, Kevin Ollie too.

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Speaker 4: I had Dougie, and I had Ko and I also

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Speaker 4: had Willie Green too, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: So I had that.

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Speaker 4: I had the perfect balance for a young kid, like

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Speaker 4: I see the rock star and then I see the

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Speaker 3: I see the guys that's Halm and nails every day,

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Speaker 3: I had that balance.

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Speaker 5: I've seen the clip. I think you was standing there

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00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:18,320
Speaker 5: doing under the basket doing an interview and here come

445
00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:21,280
Speaker 5: Chuck and can't see wheb and they pulled a ward

446
00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:23,119
Speaker 5: on your head and you didn't even turn it around.

447
00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:25,679
Speaker 5: You literally you just like you kind of blink like

448
00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:29,200
Speaker 5: and you looked at the guy. You like that that's Alane.

449
00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:32,240
Speaker 5: And he was like, I know, like just talk about

450
00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:35,399
Speaker 5: like the type of duty was and how y'all relationship

451
00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:36,920
Speaker 5: was and some AI stories.

452
00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:39,280
Speaker 4: He knew how I felt about him when I came in.

453
00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:41,240
Speaker 4: You know, I worked with the ground he walked on,

454
00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:44,560
Speaker 4: you know, and so he understood what he meant to

455
00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:46,400
Speaker 4: me and what he meant to my career. And so

456
00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:49,000
Speaker 4: when I first met him, I was at Charlie Mack

457
00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:51,760
Speaker 4: celebrity game and the summer there inviting me there. After

458
00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:53,639
Speaker 4: I got drafted and I'm sitting on the bench and

459
00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:58,240
Speaker 4: I just remember commotion and I look over. Everybody, just

460
00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:00,919
Speaker 4: get out the way he walking through onto Rod. You

461
00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:04,400
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, Icy, You know what I'm saying,

462
00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:08,159
Speaker 4: Rag in the flesh, they go to God in the flesh.

463
00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:12,879
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. There, My heart sink. Damn

464
00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:13,440
Speaker 3: there you go.

465
00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:17,399
Speaker 4: Man dog looked around and saw me and beeline straight

466
00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:18,560
Speaker 4: to me and gave me.

467
00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:20,720
Speaker 3: A bear hug, you know what I'm saying. And that

468
00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:21,480
Speaker 3: was day one.

469
00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:24,679
Speaker 4: So that set the tone for our relationships. So on

470
00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:26,440
Speaker 4: that team, he was the only person that even played

471
00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:28,480
Speaker 4: with me like that because he protected me.

472
00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:31,600
Speaker 3: He was like, nah, this my little bro, it's my

473
00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:33,480
Speaker 3: little bit. Like you can't funk with him. I can't.

474
00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:36,200
Speaker 4: So I knew then as soon as I felt the water,

475
00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:38,440
Speaker 4: it ain't nobody but him, you know what I'm saying.

476
00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:40,479
Speaker 3: I saw the foot, I said, well you in on

477
00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:42,920
Speaker 3: it too, Okay, cool. Well we had a whole water

478
00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:46,720
Speaker 3: fight after that. We was we was in Barcelona, Spain

479
00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:47,760
Speaker 3: for training camp, and.

480
00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:50,480
Speaker 4: They did that and I went knocked on his door, go,

481
00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:53,240
Speaker 4: I had a bucket of water, got chucked when it

482
00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:55,280
Speaker 4: got dub got my I got my licked back, and

483
00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:57,040
Speaker 4: then we went back and forth for a little while.

484
00:20:57,119 --> 00:21:01,760
Speaker 1: So what basketball wise from Chuck that you see some

485
00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:04,280
Speaker 1: of the moves that from for the size of guys

486
00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:07,720
Speaker 1: that you are something that he had success in and

487
00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:09,920
Speaker 1: she was like, yeah, I need to start doing that

488
00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:10,720
Speaker 1: mid range.

489
00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:11,760
Speaker 2: That mid range.

490
00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:12,879
Speaker 3: Poor mid range.

491
00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:15,119
Speaker 4: I think earlier in my career and even high school,

492
00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:17,840
Speaker 4: I was either shooting threes. I was going all the

493
00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:20,639
Speaker 4: way to the basket trying to get contact. Yeah, I

494
00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:23,280
Speaker 4: wasn't really playing in between games. And I think he

495
00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:26,719
Speaker 4: really introduced that to me, like it's mid range is

496
00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:28,040
Speaker 4: I don't know if it's underrated.

497
00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:30,119
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying is Hall of fame. But

498
00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:31,800
Speaker 3: his mia range.

499
00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:35,200
Speaker 2: Was was because they don't even talking about that.

500
00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:36,600
Speaker 3: Talk about the crossover.

501
00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:40,000
Speaker 2: Now, that's one of two threes that game.

502
00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:42,760
Speaker 3: I don't remember, That's what That's what's crazy. I don't

503
00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:43,960
Speaker 3: remember shooting a lot of threes.

504
00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:46,120
Speaker 1: He didn't shoot three. That's why I said he might

505
00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:49,560
Speaker 1: have one of two threes. But it's range, that's mid range.

506
00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:52,200
Speaker 1: And all you see the G League where it's at now,

507
00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:56,200
Speaker 1: and Philly sent you down, yeah, to play with their

508
00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:58,280
Speaker 1: team to see what the G League is at now,

509
00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:00,760
Speaker 1: especially to see like these past year when when the

510
00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:04,080
Speaker 1: league had COVID and a lot of these guys was

511
00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:06,680
Speaker 1: coming up an opportunity.

512
00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:10,040
Speaker 3: Some of them guys got paid and had and got

513
00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:11,080
Speaker 3: an opportunity to got.

514
00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:12,919
Speaker 1: The opportunity and so well, to see what the G

515
00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:16,080
Speaker 1: League at right now. Like do you remember when you

516
00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,119
Speaker 1: when you went down and you had to play.

517
00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:21,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, we asked we actually had asked them to send

518
00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:28,199
Speaker 3: us down. Yeah. I want to bump. Yeah, Yeah, I

519
00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:29,639
Speaker 3: wanted to I wanted to bump. You know.

520
00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:31,359
Speaker 4: I got to the point, I'm just like I've been

521
00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:34,320
Speaker 4: sitting here two years, like it's time to put something

522
00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:36,600
Speaker 4: to the test, Like, you know, I got a hoop somewhere.

523
00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:39,200
Speaker 4: So we had came up with a with a part

524
00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:41,120
Speaker 4: in the schedule where they was gonna send me. Fort

525
00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:43,600
Speaker 4: Worth was our affiliate at that time, and they was

526
00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:46,240
Speaker 4: gonna send me down because they had home games from

527
00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:48,920
Speaker 4: Monday to Friday. They had home games, one away game

528
00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:50,919
Speaker 4: on Saturday, then I would fly back to Philly.

529
00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:52,640
Speaker 3: So I played the three games.

530
00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:58,399
Speaker 4: Drove from Dallas to Little Rock, Arkansas.

531
00:22:58,760 --> 00:22:59,280
Speaker 3: Check this out.

532
00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:05,480
Speaker 4: I drove from on the team bus with the team

533
00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:09,240
Speaker 4: from Dallas to Little Rock, Arkansas. Got to Little Rock,

534
00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:12,359
Speaker 4: Arkansas within the hour. I had to go catch a

535
00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:15,119
Speaker 4: flight to go to Philly because they had traded AI.

536
00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:20,840
Speaker 4: They traded they on my last day in the G League.

537
00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:25,640
Speaker 4: Chuck had got traded. Told me I need to get

538
00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:28,639
Speaker 4: to Philly. Aces I got there at halftime or the

539
00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:31,320
Speaker 4: game they was playing the Washington Wizards. I got their

540
00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:33,200
Speaker 4: halftime and never turned back.

541
00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:36,400
Speaker 2: The side fade away, Like where do you get that from?

542
00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:40,000
Speaker 4: After I tore my a cl in two thousand and

543
00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:43,640
Speaker 4: thirteen thirteen, I toret my ACL, then I came back

544
00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:47,160
Speaker 4: fourteen was getting my jump shot blocked? Was I didn't

545
00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:50,200
Speaker 4: have the explosiveness I had before that. I just had

546
00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:55,160
Speaker 4: to adjust. So honestly, that shit developed any emergency.

547
00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:59,320
Speaker 1: That's crazy the side because I ain't seen I'm noticing

548
00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:02,280
Speaker 1: that now, but it's like it gets you space.

549
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:03,679
Speaker 3: That's what it was made for.

550
00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:04,920
Speaker 2: That ship.

551
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,080
Speaker 4: Before then, I couldn't get away from nobody, you know

552
00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:09,359
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. Because I used a lot of my

553
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:12,879
Speaker 4: athletic ability before that, I ain't really use skill so

554
00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:16,200
Speaker 4: ACL this slowed me down, and I think it set

555
00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:17,879
Speaker 4: the bar for the rest of my career because I

556
00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:20,280
Speaker 4: was able to adjust as the time went on, like

557
00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:22,639
Speaker 4: I became different players. I became even started to do

558
00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:23,600
Speaker 4: different things because it.

559
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:26,320
Speaker 2: Seemed like injuries do that to everybody.

560
00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:30,240
Speaker 4: Because it takes some of your copy, takes a lot

561
00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:32,159
Speaker 4: of the talent away. You got to turn into a

562
00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:33,000
Speaker 4: more skill player.

563
00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:37,280
Speaker 3: Even like age you got older. Ag, Yeah, you get older.

564
00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:39,280
Speaker 3: You gotta figure out a way to stay on their court.

565
00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:41,240
Speaker 3: You can't just run through people no more. You can't

566
00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:44,160
Speaker 3: bully nobody. You ain't jumping over nobody, none of that.

567
00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:46,600
Speaker 5: How excited was you when you were signing with the

568
00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:50,320
Speaker 5: Hawks in twenty twelve, Yeah, I was excited.

569
00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:51,320
Speaker 3: I was happy about that.

570
00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:54,679
Speaker 4: It's funny now because in my career, my two Atlanta

571
00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:57,000
Speaker 4: stops been my worst two stops.

572
00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:01,240
Speaker 2: As far as off right, that's what I did on

573
00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:01,640
Speaker 2: the floor.

574
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:03,639
Speaker 3: It's been my worst two stops when I was at

575
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:04,000
Speaker 3: the crib.

576
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:06,439
Speaker 5: But like, can you compare that? Like because you know,

577
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:09,239
Speaker 5: like we all like sept him. You know, he's from

578
00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:12,119
Speaker 5: small town. I ain't have a team for him to

579
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:14,960
Speaker 5: wish he could play when he grew up. Bulls is

580
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:16,640
Speaker 5: the closest thing for him. But like, you know, you're

581
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:19,480
Speaker 5: growing up in Atlanta, You're like, man, play for the

582
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:20,159
Speaker 5: huts one day.

583
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:21,320
Speaker 2: I'm thinking, I don't play.

584
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:22,679
Speaker 5: For the bull on day for you, you know, for

585
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:25,080
Speaker 5: the dudes, I actually get a chance to achieve.

586
00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:26,400
Speaker 4: It that I used to take them. I just take

587
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:27,760
Speaker 4: them Marrow. I used to take the mart Of train

588
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:30,240
Speaker 4: to the hosts games. My mom used to buy me

589
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:32,719
Speaker 4: like fifteen twenty dollars tickets. She'd drop me off at

590
00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:36,480
Speaker 4: Themorrow station. I take the mart Of train twenty minutes

591
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:40,399
Speaker 4: to Seeing in Center, go in, watch warm up. I

592
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:42,800
Speaker 4: get there hour before the game. I watched guys go

593
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,440
Speaker 4: through they warm ups, chill, get me something to eat,

594
00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:47,600
Speaker 4: watch the game by myself, get back on the train.

595
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:49,919
Speaker 3: My mama meat me right there. So like for me,

596
00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:52,320
Speaker 3: so it was you when you was doing the fourteen

597
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:56,080
Speaker 3: thirteen fourteen, you know what I'm saying, And so me

598
00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:58,640
Speaker 3: having that experience and then have an opportunity to play

599
00:25:58,640 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 3: for them folks, it's.

600
00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:02,440
Speaker 2: Like it's full her be on that court that you

601
00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:03,560
Speaker 2: were watching.

602
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,560
Speaker 4: Shit, even I even take it this far. Josh Smith

603
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:09,320
Speaker 4: used to give me tickets to come to the games

604
00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:11,760
Speaker 4: when he was a rookie. I was still I was

605
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:14,560
Speaker 4: still a fan up until that point, you know what

606
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:15,000
Speaker 4: I'm saying.

607
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,359
Speaker 3: He four, I was drafted oh five.

608
00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:19,720
Speaker 4: So I was still doing that getting on the train

609
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:21,960
Speaker 4: going to see games. My partner was on the team.

610
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:23,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's dope.

611
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:25,880
Speaker 1: You go to Canada now, you know, you turn your

612
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:28,280
Speaker 1: a cl in Atlanta and now Canada.

613
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 2: You went Toronto.

614
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:32,280
Speaker 1: When you say Toronto is where you kind of found

615
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:36,919
Speaker 1: your your edge in the league, Like, man, I'm I

616
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:37,400
Speaker 1: saved my.

617
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:42,440
Speaker 4: Career, said, yeah, saved my career. Toronto definitely saved my career.

618
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:45,560
Speaker 4: I was tore my a cl one playing well in Atlanta,

619
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:48,119
Speaker 4: Button Holzer shout out to mic. He pulled me in

620
00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:49,720
Speaker 4: the office. He was like, you know, I don't think

621
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:52,000
Speaker 4: you'll ever be the same player again. He was like,

622
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:53,840
Speaker 4: you know, so it's not working out here. We're gonna

623
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:55,760
Speaker 4: try to find you somewhere this summer where you can

624
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:57,320
Speaker 4: do your thing. You know what I'm saying. Told me

625
00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:00,919
Speaker 4: that to my face. So I respect him forever because

626
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:04,120
Speaker 4: you know he's one of Yeah he ain't shoot straight.

627
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:06,680
Speaker 4: He shot straight with me and ended up getting traded

628
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 4: to Toronto. Different country, different thing. They wasn't on my

629
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 4: radar teams that I even thought I wanted to play for.

630
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:15,399
Speaker 4: Should I got up there and it turned into a

631
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:20,120
Speaker 4: brotherhood like Kyle Larry, Chuck Hayes, Themarty Rosen and Amir Johnson.

632
00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,600
Speaker 4: They became brothers to me, like they knew I was

633
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:24,000
Speaker 4: in a I was in a place in my career.

634
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,399
Speaker 3: I thought that was gonna be my last year. I

635
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 3: was like, this is.

636
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:28,679
Speaker 4: Probably it, you know what I'm saying. I had a

637
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 4: good run nineteen years, be over it, you know what

638
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:34,199
Speaker 4: I'm saying. Because that was my first time getting drafted.

639
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 4: You know, when I went to Atlanta, that was free agency,

640
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:39,919
Speaker 4: So I was like, it's probably over my acl this

641
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,880
Speaker 4: and that and them dudes rally behind me. Bro gave

642
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 4: me so much confidence, put the ball in my hands

643
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:46,800
Speaker 4: and I won my first six man out there.

644
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:49,159
Speaker 1: I was there to see how when you got the

645
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:51,200
Speaker 1: other culture change in Toronto?

646
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 3: Yeah it was.

647
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:54,679
Speaker 1: I think it was already changed, but I'm talking about like,

648
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 1: but like how you've been a part of the culture

649
00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 1: change of it.

650
00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:00,399
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, you know what I'm saying. To all

651
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:01,920
Speaker 2: way to win a championship.

652
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:05,959
Speaker 1: Now, you and Damar and them guys wasn't there, but

653
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:09,320
Speaker 1: it got to where y'all changed the culture to the championship.

654
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:11,679
Speaker 3: It was exciting to see because I knew what it

655
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:13,320
Speaker 3: was like to play for the Raptors because I was

656
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 3: I'm like going a chip.

657
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 4: They got keys to the city because they the city

658
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 4: is already so supportive of you got to think you

659
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:24,480
Speaker 4: the only basketball team in the country, right your support system,

660
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 4: it's crazy.

661
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:26,640
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

662
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:28,160
Speaker 3: Your support system is crazy.

663
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:31,119
Speaker 4: So you know you already got red carpet treatment everywhere

664
00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:34,119
Speaker 4: you're going, just by being a raptor. So for them

665
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:37,680
Speaker 4: boys to go get a chip like I know what's

666
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:39,560
Speaker 4: going on. You know what I'm saying. And so that

667
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:41,480
Speaker 4: was one of my favorite places to play. Wish I

668
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:43,480
Speaker 4: could have stayed longer, but it just didn't work out.

669
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 4: To see that had them and where the culture is

670
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:49,720
Speaker 4: now and the foundation they built out there is dope.

671
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 1: To be playing out there and had the number one

672
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 1: rapper have a song name after you?

673
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 3: That was a good year.

674
00:28:55,680 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 1: Man, I have a number one rapper name of song.

675
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:04,000
Speaker 1: That's one of my favorite songs on the album, Like

676
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 1: how was that? You know in your first your song

677
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 1: is different than when Drake usually name drop or so

678
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 1: far pH like you on.

679
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 2: The course, like you say, will the whole.

680
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 3: I had had? I had a soundtrack that.

681
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 2: Was what was you when you first heard it? When

682
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 2: you heard it? This one?

683
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 3: Play it for me the very first time I heard it?

684
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:25,480
Speaker 2: What's that like? He hit me?

685
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 3: It was like, I'm working on something. Can you pull

686
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 3: up to the condo?

687
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 4: I want to play something for you, And I was like,

688
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:33,960
Speaker 4: all right, So I pulled up me and my cousin

689
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 4: pulled up on him. Came to his condo and no bullshit,

690
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 4: he's sitting in his living room recording himself.

691
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 3: Like he's recording his own album. You know what I'm saying.

692
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:47,080
Speaker 3: So it come on boom that seven now. So he like,

693
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:48,720
Speaker 3: is it cool? Like what I said.

694
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 4: I'm like, man, we're worried about everything else later like

695
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 4: but we got to have that look, that look I

696
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:02,239
Speaker 4: wish you. I don't know whatever happened to the to

697
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 4: the video. He might have shot a video, was thinking

698
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 4: about it. But I did something for Drake that would

699
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 4: against all my mama rules.

700
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 3: So my mama got.

701
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:13,320
Speaker 4: Like Adam, I don't for lack of a better worry

702
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 4: on call of the shrine.

703
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 3: But my mom got like a mini museum her house.

704
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 4: With me, Like she got all my youth trophies, everything,

705
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:26,600
Speaker 4: almost got everything. Ship is actually impressive, like AI stuff,

706
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 4: Kobe's stuff. She got it incredible. But she has my

707
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 4: original high school jersey in a frame in that room.

708
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 4: Drake like, yo, you think I could you got a jersey?

709
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 4: I could wear it for the video. I told mama,

710
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:41,480
Speaker 4: we got to take that out of the frame, Like

711
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 4: it got to come out the frame.

712
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 3: It's part of She's like, boy, you crazy.

713
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 4: I'm like nah, I'm like, now you don't understand, Like

714
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 4: we gotta have a jersey.

715
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:56,240
Speaker 3: My mom like, no, that's it. So we had to

716
00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 3: go steal.

717
00:30:56,960 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 4: The jersey was gone for weeks before she knew we

718
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 4: had it.

719
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 2: Oh, she didn't even know to put out for.

720
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 3: I had to pour the height because she didn't understand

721
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 3: what I was. Like, she went here and that ship.

722
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 4: Before she got well, no, she found out. She was

723
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 4: a little upset, but we got it back, put it

724
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 4: back in a new frame. Yeah, everything cool.

725
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 1: Dope, that's crazy. So you got to you got a song?

726
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 1: Do They used to play your song when you scored

727
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 1: and stuff.

728
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 4: They used to play like im lou Will, Like that's

729
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 4: where people get their little tag line from every time

730
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 4: I scored like.

731
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 2: On lou Will. Straight up. That's dope. That's all.

732
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 1: So Toronto is where you you kind of found your

733
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 1: niche to be like, did that award because like Jason

734
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 1: Terry Gennobly, Jamal Crawford, you like y'all really made this

735
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:52,240
Speaker 1: award really mean something that it didn't mean back in

736
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 1: the day like it really means something like, I feel

737
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 1: like that's a great award because y'all are starters on

738
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 1: a lot of teams for sure, that y'all sacrifice yourself

739
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 1: to be bench players for the good of the team,

740
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 1: to bring something to the team.

741
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 2: So did that six man Award like kind of solidify?

742
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 4: Like, yeah, man, my eyes because I was coming off

743
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 4: the bench for so long, I didn't even understand that

744
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 4: it was like a thingant Yeah, shit, I had lost

745
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 4: two before that.

746
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 2: He was running up the Hard and the couple.

747
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 3: I was running up the Hard and I lost one

748
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 3: of j R.

749
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 4: Smith, right, but I ain't even They was like, heyo,

750
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 4: you lost the sixth Man Award. You came in second

751
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 4: place like James Harden won JR one, And so I

752
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 4: was I was like, shit, I'm always losing it. I

753
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 4: don't even know what it is, right, you know. So

754
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 4: I never had the mindset of I'm going into the

755
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 4: season trying to win the sixth Man of the Year.

756
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 4: I didn't even realize it. There is something that you

757
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 4: know I could accomplish and so on. Shit, even though

758
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 4: on the first one, I won't, I ain't expecting that one.

759
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 4: I ain't even know what was happening, you know what

760
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:57,440
Speaker 4: I'm saying, And so once I got it, it opened

761
00:32:57,440 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 4: my eyes, like, oh, we can turn this into like

762
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 4: a lifestyle, like a brand. If this is who I am, Like, like,

763
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 4: this is a thing, let's put it in motion instead

764
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 4: of having that stigma of it's a bench award, Like, nah,

765
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 4: it's doing what's necessary for this team, you know what

766
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 4: I'm saying. And a lot of kids can look at

767
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 4: my story Natesmith, player of the Year, best player coming

768
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 4: out of high school, this, and that you can average

769
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 4: all the points in the world. It just ain't your

770
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 4: role sometimes, you know what I'm saying. Sometimes how it

771
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 4: worked for somebody else ain't gonna work for how you work,

772
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 4: you know I had that was a hard appeal for

773
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:30,640
Speaker 4: me to swallow, and once I embraced it, it was

774
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 4: the best thing I did for my career.

775
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 5: Tell me how it was it to win like not one,

776
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 5: not two, but three six Mans, like six Man Awards

777
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 5: and you have like twenty two point six one year,

778
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 5: Like that's beyond a Like that's a starter, you know

779
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 5: what I'm saying. Number Like, how do you feel about

780
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 5: like where you and like you say, Mal got three,

781
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 5: y'all like the only.

782
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 2: Two dudes got three of them.

783
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 5: But like where y'all have put that award and put

784
00:33:55,920 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 5: the importance and significance of the six man role in general, right?

785
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 4: I think for me, you know, I've always said the

786
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 4: only difference between Jamal and I is I embraced it

787
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 4: as a lifestyle, you know what I'm saying. I think

788
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 4: that was the only difference. Once I won that first one,

789
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:17,719
Speaker 4: I wanted to win it every year after that. You know,

790
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 4: I don't know if he looked at it or considered

791
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 4: that to be what he wanted for his career, you

792
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. And so I think for me,

793
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:26,880
Speaker 4: that's the only thing that sets us apart. But it

794
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,399
Speaker 4: was special because, like I said, I'm at another point

795
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 4: in my career. When I got to the Clippers, that

796
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 4: was the third team I played for in six months.

797
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:35,360
Speaker 4: I don't think a lot of people realize that. You know,

798
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:40,400
Speaker 4: I was Lakers, traded to Houston, Houston back to LA

799
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:42,879
Speaker 4: That was in a six month span. You know, all

800
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:44,399
Speaker 4: of that was in a six month span. So I'm

801
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 4: thinking at this point it might be over again, and

802
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 4: so to go to La win two more, be a

803
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:53,279
Speaker 4: big part of a culture challenge with the organization. Play

804
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:56,279
Speaker 4: for organization that allowed me to be myself, had a

805
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 4: coach that let me go out and do my thing

806
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 4: and just go to work. It was like, you know,

807
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:02,360
Speaker 4: it was a dream come true, especially so late in

808
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 4: my career. You know, I won my second one my

809
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:05,320
Speaker 4: thirteen seasons.

810
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, we grow up Lakers fans. Everybody loved the Lakers somewhat,

811
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 1: so everybody do love it. Their historical franchise. We can

812
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 1: say that their historical franchise, that say this historical the

813
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 1: historical franchise, like them in Boston. Yeah, just having a

814
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:31,719
Speaker 1: Lakers jersey on like you've seen the greats, like you've

815
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:34,360
Speaker 1: seen Shack Worters jersey. Oh for sure, you've seen Kobe

816
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:38,880
Speaker 1: Waters jersey. You've seen Magic and the greats where this jersey.

817
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 1: So like now you've got a Lakers jersey.

818
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:42,800
Speaker 3: That was exciting.

819
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,440
Speaker 4: There was another team that I wasn't even looking at

820
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 4: it on my radar because I think they was kind

821
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,719
Speaker 4: of in somewhat of rebuild at that point. But the

822
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:51,839
Speaker 4: one thing they did do in free agency, like Mitch

823
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 4: cup Check was very h persistent, so he made me

824
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:58,239
Speaker 4: feel wanted. He made me feel needed, you know, And

825
00:35:58,280 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 4: so I went out. I went out there and rock

826
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,440
Speaker 4: with them because I thought I was gonna stay in Toronto.

827
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 4: Toronto was kind of taking their time in free agency,

828
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:07,759
Speaker 4: trying to build out their team, and I just wasn't

829
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 4: I patient. I was ready to get off the board,

830
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,799
Speaker 4: know where I'm going, keep moving, and the Lakers was

831
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:14,400
Speaker 4: like own it.

832
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:16,719
Speaker 3: That made me like might as well.

833
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:18,880
Speaker 2: How was it when you first met Kobe?

834
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 3: It was cool?

835
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 4: It was the laid back at first, y'all know how

836
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:23,799
Speaker 4: bean was he He don't really rock with too many

837
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:26,400
Speaker 4: people until he ready to rock with you, you know what

838
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:29,319
Speaker 4: I'm saying. And so at first he was like, what's up?

839
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, you know, kind of filling

840
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 4: me out. And then once he realized I was somebody

841
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 4: he could rely on that he can trust, you know

842
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. When it came to basketball, that's when

843
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 4: our friendship and our relationship developed.

844
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:44,359
Speaker 5: How was it watching him like when you like, all right,

845
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:46,359
Speaker 5: y'all get there and you going like, now you at

846
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 5: the point where like you're going to work, You're going

847
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:50,839
Speaker 5: to practice every day with and you seeing him like

848
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:53,279
Speaker 5: What was that like to see Cole go in and

849
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 5: do what he do about and go about his business

850
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:56,480
Speaker 5: every day.

851
00:36:56,680 --> 00:37:00,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, I wish I was just with him earlier. Wish

852
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:01,440
Speaker 4: I was with him when he was he was in

853
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:03,840
Speaker 4: a tack mode. My last two years with him, he

854
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:08,240
Speaker 4: was kind of dealing with injuries, battling, battling some things

855
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 4: and trying to just find a rhythm and still be

856
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 4: a dog.

857
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:11,839
Speaker 2: Like.

858
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 4: I just remember him saying some ship every once in

859
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:17,799
Speaker 4: a while, and I just be like, damn, he thinks different. Yeah,

860
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,800
Speaker 4: I'm like, he's he on another level, you know what

861
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 4: I'm saying, He on the whole.

862
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 3: He on a completely different level.

863
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 4: And I just wish I had more of that when

864
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 4: I was coming up, that I could be I could

865
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:29,279
Speaker 4: have been around and benefited front.

866
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:32,239
Speaker 5: Earl Clark told me that before he was like Yo,

867
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:36,319
Speaker 5: he'd be like, you know hey, big brother, like Kobe is,

868
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 5: just like sometimes he'll say some wow ship.

869
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:39,879
Speaker 2: You're like, We'll be.

870
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 5: Sitting on there be like I ain't asking nothing nothing.

871
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:45,399
Speaker 5: He had come out of nowhere, and you'll be like.

872
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,280
Speaker 3: With a straight straight with a straight face.

873
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 4: We was in Denver, we was getting our ass kicked,

874
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 4: and that man said, I'm gona guard Will Bart in

875
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 4: the second half.

876
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 3: He not even gonna exist.

877
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 4: But Will had twenty five at halftime, so we look

878
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:06,879
Speaker 4: around like, all right, go ahead, oh g yeah, have

879
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:11,439
Speaker 4: a two points after that, and he he guarded him

880
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 4: like he say, some ship like that. One time we

881
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:16,360
Speaker 4: came in. We was playing Golden State, and this was

882
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 4: when Steph was starting to catch fire. He was started

883
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 4: to turn into the chef, you know what I'm saying.

884
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 4: And he came in and he said, I fucking found it.

885
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:28,319
Speaker 4: He just kept saying, I fucking found it. So we're

886
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 4: kind of looking at.

887
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:31,920
Speaker 3: Him like he like, he don't like people standing on

888
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:33,920
Speaker 3: the side of him. He can shoot with you in

889
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:35,920
Speaker 3: front of him, he can shoot with you behind him,

890
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,319
Speaker 3: but on his side, he don't like that. I'm guarden

891
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:41,319
Speaker 3: the second half shut him down again. So after that,

892
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 3: I was a believer.

893
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, after that, like everything that I've heard about Kobe

894
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 4: Bryant is all true.

895
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:52,239
Speaker 1: You know, let me put you on the spot right quick.

896
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 1: Who you preferred? Lakers and Clippers?

897
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:55,440
Speaker 3: Clippers?

898
00:38:55,719 --> 00:39:01,319
Speaker 2: Okay, that's easy. Was over here, you know.

899
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:04,719
Speaker 3: I was as part of a culture change over there.

900
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:07,279
Speaker 4: You know what they gave us an opportunity to kind

901
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 4: of build that organization out to our personalities and how

902
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 4: we wanted to feel and look. And I think we

903
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 4: had a big part of how it looked. Now I'm

904
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 4: a part of that.

905
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:18,920
Speaker 5: So how did it feel when Slam came to y'all

906
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:20,399
Speaker 5: to recreate that icon?

907
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 3: It was like incredibly honored.

908
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:22,839
Speaker 2: Bro.

909
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:25,919
Speaker 3: I ain't even gonna lie because I was a kid

910
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 3: and I had that magazine. You know what I'm saying.

911
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:28,879
Speaker 3: I was.

912
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 4: I was a youngster when I had that magazine. So

913
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:32,400
Speaker 4: for them to come in and wanted us to do

914
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 4: it over, I was like, that's hard.

915
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 2: It was fired.

916
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:37,799
Speaker 5: And it was like that, like from all of the

917
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 5: feedback and seeing how because Trails was real vocal about

918
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:43,759
Speaker 5: how heype he was and y'all were to do it.

919
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 4: We couldn't wait. And you know how it is, you

920
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 4: don't want to do no media. You really like, hey, man,

921
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 4: tell him. We got ten minutes. We got ten minutes.

922
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:53,719
Speaker 4: We knocked it out, and I'm out. It was like

923
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:54,400
Speaker 4: what y'all wanted.

924
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 3: We changed out.

925
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:00,200
Speaker 4: A lot of people don't even if you look get

926
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:04,280
Speaker 4: the picture. We got on each other, each other and everything.

927
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 4: So we was in there having fun with it. We

928
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 4: were so uned to do it.

929
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:09,319
Speaker 2: That's kind of how we did it.

930
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:11,400
Speaker 1: When we did it, it was it was kind of

931
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:14,719
Speaker 1: like a cause we took so many other pictures, but

932
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 1: it wind up we just all of a sudden just

933
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:19,799
Speaker 1: took each other jerseys off and just being ourselves, put

934
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:21,880
Speaker 1: the do rags on it. It just came out like that,

935
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 1: and it's just to see y'alls. Man, it was dope.

936
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:26,240
Speaker 1: When I seen I was like, man, that's hard.

937
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 4: Now we were super hued. I got a big ass

938
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:30,240
Speaker 4: picture in my house of that.

939
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 2: How was that season? Y'all didn't win a championship, but

940
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 2: it was like a term. You know, y'all didn't have

941
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:39,840
Speaker 2: a superstar, so called superstar that.

942
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:42,479
Speaker 1: They were saying, you know, how to when they brought

943
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:45,719
Speaker 1: Kawhi and pauland then it was your superstar. Y'all was

944
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 1: just a regular team of guys that they felt that

945
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:51,040
Speaker 1: they can just exchange on any team. Y'all made the

946
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:56,839
Speaker 1: playoffs and won games against the all dominant Warriors.

947
00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:57,880
Speaker 2: Like, how was that season?

948
00:40:57,920 --> 00:40:59,799
Speaker 1: Like how y'all collected because y'all was seeing like y'all

949
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 1: was just playing fun basketball and y'all was together.

950
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 4: I mean I take I take credit for the mentality

951
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 4: for that. We were playing pretty pretty decent basketball. We

952
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 4: felt good about what we was as a team, and

953
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:12,920
Speaker 4: then Blake got traded, So we were like, why the

954
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:15,359
Speaker 4: fuck would they trade him? When you know what I'm saying,

955
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 4: we kind of were starting to find out our groove

956
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 4: and they traded them, and so you know, we kind

957
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:22,239
Speaker 4: of felt like it's sabotaged, Like.

958
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 3: What's going on, y'all trying to y'all trying to make

959
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:24,880
Speaker 3: us a little crazy.

960
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:27,879
Speaker 4: So I just remember telling everybody on the plane, I'm like, look, bro,

961
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 4: we ain't make that decision, so we don't got to

962
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:32,280
Speaker 4: deal with all the pressure that come with the decision.

963
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 4: Only thing we can do is play as hard as

964
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:36,880
Speaker 4: we can and give ourselves an opportunity to win and

965
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:39,760
Speaker 4: have some fun. Other than that, we ain't trade Blake.

966
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:42,919
Speaker 4: We love Blake, you know what I'm saying. So play

967
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 4: hardest hell, give ourselves an opportunity. And we took that

968
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:47,880
Speaker 4: and ran with it. So every night we was just

969
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,239
Speaker 4: arrogant as hell. I think we could beat anybody. You know,

970
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 4: the hardest team to play is a bunch of guys.

971
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 4: They feel like they hardworking and their confident and they

972
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 4: feel like they can beat you.

973
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:58,719
Speaker 3: And you know, y'all see how Pat Bev carrying it

974
00:41:58,760 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 3: to this.

975
00:41:59,080 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 2: Day, he's still.

976
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 4: He still tripping. He's still tripping it. So he was

977
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:13,760
Speaker 4: like he was that muscle we needed, you know. Sometimes

978
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:15,279
Speaker 4: we'd be like, you sure.

979
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:19,400
Speaker 3: Come on, that's who that's who he is. You know,

980
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:24,799
Speaker 3: he man, y'all, I can't see man, come on, get

981
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:26,920
Speaker 3: behind me. And that's how that's how he was.

982
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 5: Understand the vale he had with that Minnesota team just

983
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 5: for what you're saying, because you gotta have that one

984
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:35,279
Speaker 5: because like people that ain't been on teams, they don't

985
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 5: understand it. Like, yes, there will be some that are nervous,

986
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 5: scared or kind of apprehensive, whatever.

987
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:43,839
Speaker 4: You want to And can I say this is why

988
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:46,799
Speaker 4: I got a platform. Can people stop taking past they

989
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 4: of hot takes its personal. Like if y'all get to

990
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 4: know him, everything he's.

991
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 3: Saying is all basketball, that's it. That's it. Everything he's saying.

992
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 4: I've watched him walk up to dudes in the club

993
00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:03,359
Speaker 4: like on me right now, he dead seriously, that's how

994
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 4: he wired. So but sometimes you know, when you put

995
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:08,480
Speaker 4: him out there, he looked like he just he hating.

996
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 4: He got too much now, Like everything he's saying is

997
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 4: strictly I know where you're from.

998
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:15,360
Speaker 3: For sure.

999
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:18,719
Speaker 1: We had on this show and we said who was

1000
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 1: the first person, but your that boy said nobody, Lion,

1001
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 1: that's just him because everybody we know everybody.

1002
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:32,879
Speaker 2: So that's how he that's and.

1003
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 4: He not budgeting and show him film whatever you want

1004
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 4: to show him. He not budgeting on his position. But

1005
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:39,239
Speaker 4: I just wanted to I just wanted to get that

1006
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 4: out there because sometimes it's scary now when you talk

1007
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 4: as an athlete and everybody got something to say about

1008
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:46,360
Speaker 4: what you got to say.

1009
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:48,720
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Like your truth ain't your truth.

1010
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:52,759
Speaker 4: If you don't agree with what I'm saying, cool, I'm

1011
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 4: not speaking some type of truth. But if you know

1012
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:57,920
Speaker 4: p and you know how how you wire, I guarantee

1013
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 4: you out of the four hundred NBA players, four hundred

1014
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 4: of them going on him on their team, for sure.

1015
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:06,319
Speaker 2: He's definitely he's definitely a player like that.

1016
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 1: What's the difference in between being a Laker and being

1017
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:14,239
Speaker 1: a Clipper, Like fan wise and just like.

1018
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:17,480
Speaker 5: City, we don't know, we've never been a Laker, You've

1019
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:20,839
Speaker 5: been both you got that unique you know, I think

1020
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 5: that you need.

1021
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:24,720
Speaker 4: I think that's you know, the difference is the Lakers

1022
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:28,439
Speaker 4: is the Lakers and the Clippers. Until they win about

1023
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 4: twenty championships, they no matter what, they're gonna be looked

1024
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:31,719
Speaker 4: at his little.

1025
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:33,880
Speaker 1: Brother, Yeah, definitely, but they need to win one. I

1026
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 1: don't think twenty one is a great start.

1027
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 4: I'm fucking disappointed we ain't get to pull it off

1028
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:41,920
Speaker 4: because I thought we had the twos that was needed.

1029
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 3: It just didn't work out for us. But you know,

1030
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:47,240
Speaker 3: this Laker town and if you if you don't think different,

1031
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 3: you're fooling yourself.

1032
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:51,759
Speaker 5: We always that's one thing we're always honest about. But

1033
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:54,799
Speaker 5: you know, like you said, I think the Clippers, you know,

1034
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:57,359
Speaker 5: have done a great job of carving their own space out.

1035
00:44:57,440 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 5: I mean, you're never going, like you say, La is

1036
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:00,880
Speaker 5: gonna be a Laker. The city and l A.

1037
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:03,439
Speaker 4: Got different cultures, so it's pretty room for both teams.

1038
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, there's people that love.

1039
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 2: And they ride the hood.

1040
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 1: That's what That's what was trying to say, Like.

1041
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:15,839
Speaker 5: You go, I forget what that's what we thought. That's

1042
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:17,880
Speaker 5: what we always I just couldn't verifact.

1043
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 3: That's what we embraced.

1044
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:24,760
Speaker 1: About like like like Hollywood down the street.

1045
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 5: You it was really like like when you get here,

1046
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:31,560
Speaker 5: you know, y'all, y'all they didn't first of all, even

1047
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 5: before ball you said when Obama had a team about then,

1048
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 5: right you So you was definitely living the lap of luxury,

1049
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:42,719
Speaker 5: like bro, Bro wasn't for y'all.

1050
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 2: Bro.

1051
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 5: First of all, college practiced at Southwest Junior College. Now

1052
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 5: this is I love my people, just south Central l A.

1053
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:55,759
Speaker 5: The hood boy here I'm talking about. Look, look this

1054
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 5: like high school highway. You know, you got the love

1055
00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:00,239
Speaker 5: the little boom, the little stick thing in the middle

1056
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 5: of the showers and then it's got spouts out. None

1057
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 5: of them work. We don't even we take showers at home.

1058
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:07,280
Speaker 5: Were taking towels and putting them on our car seats,

1059
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 5: driving home with no shirt on and taking showers at

1060
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:09,920
Speaker 5: the crib.

1061
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:13,400
Speaker 2: Boy, you feel like this is what we really was

1062
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:14,840
Speaker 2: living on about it.

1063
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 5: Look like Michael oll o' kenny had to asking Martin

1064
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 5: you put we're going through campus while they're getting out

1065
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 5: of class. They're like, yo, what kind of cars? Just

1066
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:24,920
Speaker 5: like it's like really like like this we in the hood.

1067
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:25,279
Speaker 2: Bro.

1068
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:27,280
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1069
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:28,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like so when I say, you talk.

1070
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:31,440
Speaker 3: About'll might have been more hood than us.

1071
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:34,839
Speaker 2: Listen, we was at high school, has and everything. Man,

1072
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 2: we dropping fences, he's breaking get your chains.

1073
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:39,920
Speaker 4: On the h Yeah, y'all might have y'all might have

1074
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 4: y'all started it. Then, yeah, y'all started.

1075
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 2: I got a.

1076
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:47,400
Speaker 5: Question I like to ask, you know you somebody just

1077
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 5: uh you enjoy yourself. I like to think when you

1078
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:54,719
Speaker 5: got the bag, I ain't talking about taking care of

1079
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:57,520
Speaker 5: mom with the fam, talking about what lou Will did

1080
00:46:57,640 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 5: for himself.

1081
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 2: Where you look back on Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

1082
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:03,319
Speaker 3: I drove everything but a cop car.

1083
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:04,839
Speaker 2: Are you whip gang said?

1084
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 5: Okay, okay, let me be one of the fantastic purposes

1085
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:10,839
Speaker 5: when you when you did something cold, super.

1086
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:14,959
Speaker 4: Coll everybody had everything, but I think the wildest ship

1087
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:18,239
Speaker 4: I did I bought. I bought a Ferrari and a

1088
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:20,400
Speaker 4: Lamborghini within a few months of each other, and I

1089
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 4: had both arms. I think that's when I was tripping

1090
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:23,880
Speaker 4: and I was in Philly.

1091
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 1: That's when I was qualified.

1092
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 2: Philly.

1093
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:31,359
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1094
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 2: The usually you would either get one or the other

1095
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 2: you wanted.

1096
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:40,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, like up and then like they took that damn

1097
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:44,280
Speaker 5: exotic and crazy you can't just drive up everything.

1098
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 2: You can't driving in Philly, Philly straight to you.

1099
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:50,879
Speaker 3: Know what I'm saying. I told that Lamborghini it had

1100
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 3: it had a little spoiler on it. Yeah, I was

1101
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 3: killing that Lamborghini. I had to get rid of that ship,

1102
00:47:58,760 --> 00:47:59,600
Speaker 3: killing that joy.

1103
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 5: This is the perfect example, like when we be thinking

1104
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:09,759
Speaker 5: about to kill him, we really be killing.

1105
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:10,240
Speaker 2: Man.

1106
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 1: How was it for you to to be featured on

1107
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 1: Meet Me a song?

1108
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:18,360
Speaker 4: Yeah that's different. That's different. That's different because me is

1109
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:20,000
Speaker 4: like real family.

1110
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:22,840
Speaker 2: Yeah you know what, but still for the caliber artist.

1111
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:26,360
Speaker 4: But I'm part of that. I'm part of that story.

1112
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:29,919
Speaker 4: I saw that Like I remember me and him having

1113
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:31,879
Speaker 4: a conversation like you I think I'm about to sign

1114
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:36,359
Speaker 4: with Rick Ross. Like that's how far me and him? Yeah,

1115
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 4: that's how all the tattoos on his arm ask him

1116
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:40,799
Speaker 4: he got him in my kitchen Like that's my brother,

1117
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 4: you understand.

1118
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:44,319
Speaker 2: So that that's that's meant to be.

1119
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:46,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a different, that's a different.

1120
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:48,400
Speaker 5: He's been part of the you know, we flew the

1121
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:49,279
Speaker 5: tattoo guy in.

1122
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 2: We just all.

1123
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:55,640
Speaker 3: Change, Okay, you know what I'm saying, it's just that deep.

1124
00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:57,719
Speaker 3: That's my dog for real.

1125
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 4: So anytime he mentioned in my name, like that's true story,

1126
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:05,799
Speaker 4: Like the song house party, that's really about him coming

1127
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 4: to my crib being a part of a party. So

1128
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:11,480
Speaker 4: me it inspired the video shot at my house everything

1129
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:11,879
Speaker 4: I was.

1130
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:13,640
Speaker 5: About to say that, tell me this, how is it

1131
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:16,239
Speaker 5: that you? I know that you're into music, but how

1132
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:18,560
Speaker 5: was it you you were with? Like I didn't know

1133
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:21,120
Speaker 5: this about Mek Miil, but I saw some posts. I

1134
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:25,680
Speaker 5: think you posted it where you had Jack Harlowe at

1135
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 5: the Little Willville party another thing for a year before

1136
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:34,160
Speaker 5: he was even heard, Like how do you like because

1137
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:36,279
Speaker 5: it's because is it because you do music? How do

1138
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:39,280
Speaker 5: you cross past with these guys before they even managed

1139
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 5: to blow?

1140
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:43,920
Speaker 3: Probably just energy, It's just energy, you know, relationships. Charlie

1141
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 3: Mack introduced me and Meek to each other. Mack was like, man,

1142
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 3: I'm gonna introduce you to Meek.

1143
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:51,840
Speaker 4: Y'all get along and we hit it off and developed

1144
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:52,640
Speaker 4: a relationship.

1145
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:55,280
Speaker 3: Doing music is how I met Jack. I was doing music.

1146
00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:59,319
Speaker 4: My engineers from Louisville, Kentucky shot out K Why and

1147
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:02,280
Speaker 4: I was in studio playing music for you know, family

1148
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:03,960
Speaker 4: and friends before I was gonna put it out and

1149
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:06,440
Speaker 4: Jack and his brother was in the room, and I'm like,

1150
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:07,759
Speaker 4: who fuck this white dude.

1151
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:10,200
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying.

1152
00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:13,720
Speaker 4: He like, no, they cool, They cool, like cool. Jack

1153
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:17,000
Speaker 4: kept tapping me, like yo, that's hard. And we play

1154
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 4: another He's like, YO, that's hard, bro, And so I'm like, Yo,

1155
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:23,480
Speaker 4: he actually liked my music. He's like, yeah, I do

1156
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 4: music to him like that's what's up. And we developed

1157
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:28,720
Speaker 4: the We just developed the friendship from him being around.

1158
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:31,800
Speaker 4: And four years later, the biggest shit in the world.

1159
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:34,680
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Shout out to Jack. That's

1160
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:37,040
Speaker 4: how Jack even had the opportunity to get me in trouble.

1161
00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:41,640
Speaker 2: You like, tell me the real story, Red like the

1162
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:42,239
Speaker 2: truth of it.

1163
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:44,360
Speaker 4: The truth of it is. I came home to go

1164
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:47,239
Speaker 4: to a funeral. I left the wake. The wake was

1165
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:51,480
Speaker 4: like two blocks from from from Magic. If y'all know culture,

1166
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:52,040
Speaker 4: y'all know.

1167
00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 1: Atlanta get food in the daytime, you know that's what.

1168
00:50:57,680 --> 00:51:00,000
Speaker 2: But if you don't understand, you don't understand.

1169
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:02,040
Speaker 3: Don't understand that's what we eat.

1170
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 2: That's a bunch of girls.

1171
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 1: It ain't nothing about getting food.

1172
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:10,480
Speaker 3: That's how that's the City's one of the city's favorite restaurants.

1173
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:11,520
Speaker 3: This is where we eat.

1174
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:12,360
Speaker 2: Definitely.

1175
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 3: You can walk in four o'clock in the afternoon running

1176
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:15,920
Speaker 3: to anybody.

1177
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:17,040
Speaker 2: Anybody, that's what we eat.

1178
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:19,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's five in the afternoon.

1179
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:21,680
Speaker 4: We're gonna run over here, go get some food. So

1180
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:24,719
Speaker 4: we're thinking we're doing the responsible thing. Come in and

1181
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:27,000
Speaker 4: order my food, grab a drink, weight for my food.

1182
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:31,120
Speaker 4: We go way in the corner. We're chilling mask on

1183
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:35,000
Speaker 4: the whole everything you think you're supposed to do, like whin' nobody,

1184
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:40,760
Speaker 4: no fucking pandemic experts. At that time, we're chilling Jack walking.

1185
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 4: So mind you with everything you just said about Jack.

1186
00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:47,440
Speaker 4: Fast forward to Jack having the number one record in

1187
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:48,800
Speaker 4: the country. What's popular?

1188
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 3: See Jack? What's up?

1189
00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:50,680
Speaker 2: Bro?

1190
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:53,719
Speaker 4: We gotta take a shot like that's big. You know

1191
00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:55,480
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. We take a shot, Jack asked me.

1192
00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:57,240
Speaker 4: He's like, yo, can I can I take a picture?

1193
00:51:57,600 --> 00:51:59,719
Speaker 4: I'm like, yeah, we got our mask on. That's what

1194
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:05,000
Speaker 4: I said. Take the picture. Don't think nothing of it.

1195
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:06,320
Speaker 4: My food come his food.

1196
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:09,000
Speaker 3: Come I see in a minute, bro, I'm gone. I'm

1197
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 3: in the house. So everybody imagination's running a wild. I'm

1198
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:15,839
Speaker 3: partying this and that it wasn't none of that. I'm

1199
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:17,319
Speaker 3: in the house. I get a call the next day.

1200
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:18,600
Speaker 3: I'm on my way back to the bubble.

1201
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:20,359
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1202
00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:22,840
Speaker 4: El Frank called me. He like, who the fuck is

1203
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:29,480
Speaker 4: Jack Harlem. So I'm like, here a rapper, that's my friend.

1204
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:31,439
Speaker 3: What's the problem. He was like, I'll call you back.

1205
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:33,480
Speaker 3: So he hang up on me.

1206
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:36,759
Speaker 4: My agent called me, He's like, yo, we might have

1207
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:40,600
Speaker 4: a situation. I'm like about what. He like, go to

1208
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:44,520
Speaker 4: your Instagram.

1209
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:45,600
Speaker 3: So I go to.

1210
00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:49,480
Speaker 4: Instagram and it's a blog and Hey's showing Jack screenshot.

1211
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:52,440
Speaker 4: So Jack posts a picture and then he took it

1212
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:55,080
Speaker 4: down and then he said, chill, guys, this was an

1213
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:58,279
Speaker 4: old picture, but I had the bubble.

1214
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:04,040
Speaker 1: Mask on it, you know what I'm saying, So scoomy.

1215
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:07,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, So Jack tried to Jack tried to cover for

1216
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:11,279
Speaker 4: me some solid yeah solid shout out to Jack. So

1217
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 4: it went crazy and it went viral because he was viral,

1218
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:17,359
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying.

1219
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:19,759
Speaker 5: Like, and then the NBA was like it was like

1220
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:23,719
Speaker 5: they needed somebody exact for protocol and all of that.

1221
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 4: So, I mean, I took my lick. At the end

1222
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 4: of the day, they gave me ten days quarantine.

1223
00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:33,520
Speaker 3: That was publicity. The folks put me on real deal punishment.

1224
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, like food slid to my door, knocking out like

1225
00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:45,760
Speaker 4: a real criminal. Folks had me in the whole ten days.

1226
00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:52,200
Speaker 4: Folks really put me way isolated. I didn't have no

1227
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:54,319
Speaker 4: choice on what I was gonna eat nothing. I got

1228
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:56,520
Speaker 4: off for an hour a day to work out some

1229
00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:57,920
Speaker 4: real deal jail ship.

1230
00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:00,200
Speaker 5: And it's a hold up at the end of the day.

1231
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:02,839
Speaker 5: Did they at least renamed the wings on the menu?

1232
00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:05,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, so now it was the Little Wheel wings

1233
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:06,399
Speaker 3: before that.

1234
00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:08,240
Speaker 2: Excuse me, excuse me.

1235
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:12,680
Speaker 4: But now it's our relationship over there has strengthened, you

1236
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, because them folks stood solid with

1237
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:17,719
Speaker 4: me and they ain't turn their back try to say

1238
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:20,360
Speaker 4: nothing like we we embraced each other.

1239
00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:21,279
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

1240
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:24,239
Speaker 4: And so shout out sh sharp. You know, a cool

1241
00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:28,240
Speaker 4: nickname came out of it, Limit Pepper Love Limon Pepper.

1242
00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:29,920
Speaker 4: I was fighting that shit for a long time.

1243
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:30,560
Speaker 3: Ain't gonna lie.

1244
00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:32,960
Speaker 4: I ain't gonna lie because it was a lot of

1245
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:37,120
Speaker 4: people that don't understand that had so much to say

1246
00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:39,480
Speaker 4: about it, and so to me it was a negative

1247
00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:42,239
Speaker 4: thing and so like usual we do. We flip it

1248
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:44,000
Speaker 4: turn into what we want to turn it into and

1249
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:44,800
Speaker 4: make it a positive.

1250
00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:47,240
Speaker 1: So that's what it is. They just don't understand the closure.

1251
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:50,840
Speaker 1: So that a make me he name dropped me in

1252
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:55,359
Speaker 1: one of this cut too. I appreciate that me show

1253
00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:58,600
Speaker 1: me man just to beat the trial man you miles

1254
00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:03,840
Speaker 1: like there, I remember, I'm god, okay, you played in

1255
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:08,959
Speaker 1: a thousand games and started one hundred and twenty two games. Yeah,

1256
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:14,200
Speaker 1: it's just crazy that it's crazy, right, that sounds crazy.

1257
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:18,360
Speaker 3: But like that's at that point, it is where I

1258
00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:19,040
Speaker 3: was supposed to be.

1259
00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:21,680
Speaker 1: Like how was it, like, you know, the travel you

1260
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:24,239
Speaker 1: did in your career, because like people don't know that,

1261
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:27,840
Speaker 1: like the mental space and the stress and just travel,

1262
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:30,360
Speaker 1: Like you know, sometimes you want you want something to

1263
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:32,480
Speaker 1: be on home and you just want to be home.

1264
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:35,399
Speaker 1: And but you know, in the life that we live

1265
00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:37,480
Speaker 1: and the careers that we have, you can get traded

1266
00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:38,080
Speaker 1: any day.

1267
00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:42,040
Speaker 2: You can. You can be here hear this this year.

1268
00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:45,360
Speaker 1: And all the way across on the East Coast, you

1269
00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:48,239
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying the next year. How was it

1270
00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:51,160
Speaker 1: for you over your career? Just like all the traveling

1271
00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:53,839
Speaker 1: and the mispair you at that point now where you

1272
00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:56,080
Speaker 1: you want. I know, moon when I retire, I was like, man.

1273
00:55:56,640 --> 00:55:59,680
Speaker 4: That's why the retirement shit even keep coming up around me,

1274
00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:02,280
Speaker 4: is because I think I'm just I'm at a point

1275
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:04,879
Speaker 4: where moving around tired, Like.

1276
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:08,320
Speaker 3: I'm just tired. Like I think, I just got to evolve.

1277
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:10,799
Speaker 4: I need to find new things to do on the road.

1278
00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:13,160
Speaker 4: I need to find new ship to spend my energy

1279
00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:16,399
Speaker 4: all my time on. Because the NBA, how I know it,

1280
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:19,000
Speaker 4: I'm over it, you know.

1281
00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:20,960
Speaker 2: What I'm saying.

1282
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:25,719
Speaker 3: I'm thirty five, came in seventeen. Yes, I just think.

1283
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:28,239
Speaker 4: I think everything that kept me alive on the road,

1284
00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:29,040
Speaker 4: they kept many.

1285
00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:31,400
Speaker 5: You came in a seventeen, so you've been in the

1286
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:32,880
Speaker 5: league longer than you've been alive.

1287
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:34,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're getting there.

1288
00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:35,640
Speaker 3: We're getting there.

1289
00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:38,000
Speaker 4: I'm going and this would be my eighteenth season. If

1290
00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:39,440
Speaker 4: I stick around, it'll be eighteen.

1291
00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:41,520
Speaker 2: That would be longer than you live.

1292
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:44,160
Speaker 3: Yes, I'm a jour head, bro, that's it.

1293
00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:45,080
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

1294
00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:48,319
Speaker 1: Man, you're born a rock store. Man, that's part right,

1295
00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:51,120
Speaker 1: just getting to right there.

1296
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:54,440
Speaker 4: If I can find new things to do, because it

1297
00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:57,239
Speaker 4: ain't about basketball, you know, I still got got the

1298
00:56:57,280 --> 00:56:59,520
Speaker 4: desire to play. I still got got the passion for

1299
00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:01,800
Speaker 4: the game. I still love competing. I love that feeling

1300
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:04,640
Speaker 4: and going into the arena and you know all of

1301
00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:07,400
Speaker 4: that shit. I love it everything else. And my kids

1302
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:09,800
Speaker 4: is getting older. My oldest door is eleven, she getting

1303
00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:12,400
Speaker 4: in the AAU. Now other door to eight, she in

1304
00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:15,839
Speaker 4: the gymnastics. She's an actress, you know what I'm saying.

1305
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:18,200
Speaker 4: And so my son is still too, He's still very young,

1306
00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:20,320
Speaker 4: but you know, they're starting.

1307
00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:24,480
Speaker 3: To have careers of their own. And you're missing shit.

1308
00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:27,840
Speaker 4: You're missing games, and you missing plays and missing birthdays,

1309
00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:30,440
Speaker 4: and I'm just at the point where it's just I

1310
00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:33,240
Speaker 4: don't know if this is the number one priority.

1311
00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:33,720
Speaker 2: You know.

1312
00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:36,040
Speaker 4: So if I if I continue to hoop, it's gonna

1313
00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:38,480
Speaker 4: be because I find a situation that feel good, that

1314
00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:41,680
Speaker 4: feel right, is organic. It's somewhere where I can grow

1315
00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:44,040
Speaker 4: still as a player, somewhere where my influence can be

1316
00:57:44,120 --> 00:57:46,440
Speaker 4: used for younger guys and you can still use me

1317
00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:48,920
Speaker 4: on the floor or not. I can be there as

1318
00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:50,960
Speaker 4: a condu into you know what you got going on.

1319
00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:52,840
Speaker 4: I just have to be some type. It just got

1320
00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:55,640
Speaker 4: to be beneficial. Long story short, it just got it

1321
00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:58,080
Speaker 4: just gotta make sense. I ain't just gonna sit over

1322
00:57:58,120 --> 00:57:59,600
Speaker 4: there just for the sake of sitting over there, Like

1323
00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:01,720
Speaker 4: I got on that I could be doing my time.

1324
00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:06,080
Speaker 1: One thing about you, like you like one of them players.

1325
00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:08,880
Speaker 1: And I say this like like if Ai, I feel like,

1326
00:58:09,080 --> 00:58:11,440
Speaker 1: I don't feel like Ai lucky. I hate to say lucky.

1327
00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:15,160
Speaker 1: I say he the one that's made it believable. Like

1328
00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:17,880
Speaker 1: you want them players that like your style of game.

1329
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:20,960
Speaker 1: You're not the traditional point guard. You run into a

1330
00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:24,920
Speaker 1: lot of coaches that just might not understand what you

1331
00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:27,040
Speaker 1: bring to the table.

1332
00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:29,600
Speaker 2: And it's hard to you know what I'm saying, nah,

1333
00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:32,920
Speaker 2: because like you do what you do. You know what

1334
00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:35,160
Speaker 2: I'm saying. And you know, some coaches they don't want

1335
00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:35,800
Speaker 2: the player.

1336
00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:37,920
Speaker 1: I don't want my point guard the smallest guy to

1337
00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:40,280
Speaker 1: shoot the ball all the time. I want my smallest

1338
00:58:40,280 --> 00:58:43,280
Speaker 1: guy to kind of facilitate. So you run into a

1339
00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:45,440
Speaker 1: lot of coaches that don't understand that. I feel like

1340
00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:47,680
Speaker 1: that was kind of a problem with Ai. Like yeah,

1341
00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:50,560
Speaker 1: when he got to the league, like Larry Brown, we

1342
00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:51,560
Speaker 1: give you the keys to.

1343
00:58:51,640 --> 00:58:54,240
Speaker 2: The whip, were riding with you.

1344
00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:57,320
Speaker 1: But then he got a taste that once he got older,

1345
00:58:57,360 --> 00:58:59,120
Speaker 1: of like man, just guys, just hey, he.

1346
00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:00,200
Speaker 2: Was still scoring third.

1347
00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:03,240
Speaker 1: He left hims going thirty to a team not even

1348
00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:07,240
Speaker 1: playing though, that's crazy, And I.

1349
00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:07,560
Speaker 2: Feel like.

1350
00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:11,439
Speaker 3: I wanted six man three years ago.

1351
00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:12,320
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.

1352
00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:14,960
Speaker 1: I feel like you in that same boat too, Like

1353
00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:18,120
Speaker 1: if you was in position with the keys in your hand,

1354
00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:19,360
Speaker 1: it would be different.

1355
00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:20,960
Speaker 3: You would think. I agree with you.

1356
00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:24,360
Speaker 1: A lot of coaches, I'm just saying, like for your position,

1357
00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:25,440
Speaker 1: a lot of coaches don't.

1358
00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:26,800
Speaker 3: I agree.

1359
00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:30,280
Speaker 1: They just don't want that, you know what I'm saying you.

1360
00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:32,200
Speaker 3: But I'm with you.

1361
00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:35,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but do you definitely feel like that.

1362
00:59:37,280 --> 00:59:39,400
Speaker 1: It's pre judged, Like soon as you walk the door,

1363
00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:41,240
Speaker 1: you can feel like, yeah, he ain't really fucking with

1364
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:41,760
Speaker 1: my style.

1365
00:59:42,560 --> 00:59:45,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's why you know, I'm a free agent. I'm

1366
00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:47,440
Speaker 4: gonna find me a nice home somewhere.

1367
00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:47,960
Speaker 2: You know that.

1368
00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:51,560
Speaker 4: I think I can have an impact on what's going on. Yeah, So,

1369
00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:55,760
Speaker 4: because I just left a situation where I really enjoyed organization,

1370
00:59:55,920 --> 00:59:58,920
Speaker 4: really enjoyed players. But I don't think there was just

1371
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:02,360
Speaker 4: room for Luther Bee, who you need to loo to

1372
01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:05,000
Speaker 4: be in order for it to work for both parties.

1373
01:00:05,040 --> 01:00:06,760
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, so I'm with you.

1374
01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:10,840
Speaker 2: Start bench trade. You gotta start.

1375
01:00:10,600 --> 01:00:13,080
Speaker 3: One, bench one, trade one.

1376
01:00:13,600 --> 01:00:15,360
Speaker 1: You gotta start one. You got bench one, you got

1377
01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:21,680
Speaker 1: trade one. Steph Kyrie Dame, let.

1378
01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:24,560
Speaker 2: You crazy.

1379
01:00:27,520 --> 01:00:30,760
Speaker 3: Crazy start bench trade?

1380
01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:33,479
Speaker 2: Steph Cari Dame Li wh you start? Who you bench

1381
01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:34,040
Speaker 2: your trade?

1382
01:00:34,920 --> 01:00:40,080
Speaker 3: Mm hmmm, No, I can't even.

1383
01:00:40,120 --> 01:00:44,600
Speaker 4: I don't even I'm for sure gonna start Steph though, Okay,

1384
01:00:45,840 --> 01:00:47,600
Speaker 4: I got my mind made up on that much.

1385
01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:50,440
Speaker 2: Okay, but you don't know who you are trade or ben.

1386
01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:53,280
Speaker 4: I love all three of them, dudes, bro, I wish

1387
01:00:53,720 --> 01:00:55,960
Speaker 4: I can't. I can't trade. I can't trade. No, no, like

1388
01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:57,040
Speaker 4: I feel like all three of them.

1389
01:00:57,080 --> 01:00:59,439
Speaker 2: Do you gotta work it out? Huh yeah, we gotta.

1390
01:00:59,560 --> 01:01:00,680
Speaker 3: We gotta work that one out.

1391
01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:04,200
Speaker 1: Out of all the teammates you had, you have been

1392
01:01:04,200 --> 01:01:06,360
Speaker 1: to a couple of teams, out of all teammates you had.

1393
01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:10,320
Speaker 1: If you can put four other players to bleat your

1394
01:01:10,360 --> 01:01:13,280
Speaker 1: starting five teammates to complete your starting fire, who the

1395
01:01:13,320 --> 01:01:14,800
Speaker 1: other four players you'll play with?

1396
01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:15,440
Speaker 2: Give me.

1397
01:01:22,600 --> 01:01:25,000
Speaker 3: We talked about seventeen years worth of guys.

1398
01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:27,160
Speaker 4: But at the top of my head, give me Kobe,

1399
01:01:27,280 --> 01:01:28,800
Speaker 4: give me, give me James.

1400
01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:33,280
Speaker 2: Oh damn, I forget James hard to yes, your starting five.

1401
01:01:34,040 --> 01:01:35,360
Speaker 3: Uh, I'm trying to work it out with.

1402
01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:38,400
Speaker 2: Small playing small balls.

1403
01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:39,560
Speaker 3: We're playing small ball.

1404
01:01:39,960 --> 01:01:40,919
Speaker 2: Ain't no big man.

1405
01:01:40,960 --> 01:01:44,160
Speaker 4: I'm saying, just for the sake of like trying to

1406
01:01:44,240 --> 01:01:47,600
Speaker 4: round out an even team. I'm gonna put el On

1407
01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:51,240
Speaker 4: brand in there too. Who see I played with Josh too.

1408
01:01:51,560 --> 01:01:53,040
Speaker 4: I played with Al Horford too.

1409
01:01:54,200 --> 01:01:54,840
Speaker 2: You play with some.

1410
01:01:54,880 --> 01:01:57,560
Speaker 1: Guys who will be that complete, Like if you really

1411
01:01:57,560 --> 01:01:59,480
Speaker 1: can put a starting five with you, who would be

1412
01:01:59,600 --> 01:01:59,919
Speaker 1: that star?

1413
01:02:00,120 --> 01:02:02,520
Speaker 3: I ain't never really even broke that down like that.

1414
01:02:04,360 --> 01:02:08,520
Speaker 3: I don't. Well, I'm coming off the bench. You with it,

1415
01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:11,640
Speaker 3: so you can hypothetically started my own start.

1416
01:02:12,160 --> 01:02:14,640
Speaker 2: You can either one or two. Well, give me fire

1417
01:02:14,680 --> 01:02:15,160
Speaker 2: and give me.

1418
01:02:16,080 --> 01:02:20,680
Speaker 3: You gonna be my point guard. J is gonna be

1419
01:02:20,720 --> 01:02:25,960
Speaker 3: my two Guardshi gonna be my three. I'm gonna make

1420
01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:28,480
Speaker 3: Bean the four because he's cerebral. He's gonna figure it out,

1421
01:02:31,000 --> 01:02:34,320
Speaker 3: and man should I played with Chris Webber too.

1422
01:02:35,200 --> 01:02:39,200
Speaker 2: You did in Philly and see.

1423
01:02:39,000 --> 01:02:40,880
Speaker 4: Webb and they're gonna have to battle it out and

1424
01:02:40,960 --> 01:02:44,320
Speaker 4: training camp. And then I got I got pat Bev

1425
01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:46,840
Speaker 4: was like one of my first guards coming off the bench.

1426
01:02:48,600 --> 01:02:49,720
Speaker 4: And then I got Paul.

1427
01:02:49,560 --> 01:02:56,680
Speaker 3: George right there, guys, I gave you fire. Though I

1428
01:02:56,720 --> 01:02:58,680
Speaker 3: gave you fire, But I just want I just want

1429
01:02:58,720 --> 01:02:59,600
Speaker 3: my brothers in the world.

1430
01:03:01,200 --> 01:03:03,000
Speaker 2: One of the things I used to want to do.

1431
01:03:03,320 --> 01:03:05,360
Speaker 1: But I ain't have a crib and I ain't going

1432
01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:07,560
Speaker 1: by a crib because I was when I first in

1433
01:03:07,600 --> 01:03:11,320
Speaker 1: the league, I was living still living savage. But I

1434
01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:15,040
Speaker 1: always wanted to be on MTV crib Yeah, and I

1435
01:03:15,120 --> 01:03:19,400
Speaker 1: remember watching MTV cribs sing seeing you on that.

1436
01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:23,560
Speaker 4: With Bou Like it's kind of surreal now, like when

1437
01:03:23,560 --> 01:03:24,680
Speaker 4: you get to look back at ship.

1438
01:03:25,160 --> 01:03:27,120
Speaker 3: You could look back at that, like, oh, that's that.

1439
01:03:27,560 --> 01:03:29,800
Speaker 3: I just wasn't, wow, friend, you know what I'm saying?

1440
01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:35,200
Speaker 3: That that was all I was in school. We had

1441
01:03:35,680 --> 01:03:39,760
Speaker 3: side kicks, so we was on the aol in stemester By,

1442
01:03:39,880 --> 01:03:42,040
Speaker 3: like hey, man, pull up to my crib, I need

1443
01:03:42,040 --> 01:03:42,880
Speaker 3: some homies over here.

1444
01:03:42,880 --> 01:03:46,600
Speaker 4: We shooting MTV cribs, like we on the way shot

1445
01:03:46,680 --> 01:03:48,600
Speaker 4: over there from I was in school. I shot over

1446
01:03:48,600 --> 01:03:50,440
Speaker 4: there and knocked it out in like an hour. My

1447
01:03:50,480 --> 01:03:51,880
Speaker 4: little part I did in like an hour.

1448
01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:53,920
Speaker 1: But how was that to just see yourself, I know,

1449
01:03:54,000 --> 01:03:56,160
Speaker 1: in high school, to see yourself fall in TV?

1450
01:03:56,600 --> 01:03:59,920
Speaker 3: You know the vibes. Yeah, every every woman I liked.

1451
01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:00,720
Speaker 3: I showed it to.

1452
01:04:00,840 --> 01:04:04,800
Speaker 2: You already know. You know. I used to watch the

1453
01:04:06,360 --> 01:04:11,560
Speaker 2: thing on MTV that the little celebrity game Rocking Job,

1454
01:04:11,720 --> 01:04:12,400
Speaker 2: Rocking Job.

1455
01:04:12,800 --> 01:04:14,160
Speaker 1: I told my age and he was like, yeah, what

1456
01:04:14,200 --> 01:04:15,440
Speaker 1: you wanna do? I was like, Man, I want to

1457
01:04:15,480 --> 01:04:16,800
Speaker 1: be on Rocking Job.

1458
01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:20,000
Speaker 4: Ship at that time, that was real twenty five point.

1459
01:04:20,280 --> 01:04:22,400
Speaker 4: I always remember seeing Gary Paytone on that.

1460
01:04:22,760 --> 01:04:22,960
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1461
01:04:23,040 --> 01:04:25,520
Speaker 4: For whatever reason, he's the one player that's sticking in

1462
01:04:25,520 --> 01:04:28,360
Speaker 4: my head being on Rocking Jock hitting the twenty five pointer.

1463
01:04:28,800 --> 01:04:31,600
Speaker 1: Right, So tell us more about your like like your

1464
01:04:31,680 --> 01:04:35,920
Speaker 1: music music. While you have artists and yourself.

1465
01:04:35,480 --> 01:04:38,200
Speaker 4: I got I got music. I probably don't put none

1466
01:04:38,240 --> 01:04:42,280
Speaker 4: out no more, but why not. I'm really a CEO now, bro.

1467
01:04:44,200 --> 01:04:45,960
Speaker 4: If I do, I'm gonna be on my bird man

1468
01:04:46,040 --> 01:04:46,640
Speaker 4: on my puff.

1469
01:04:47,520 --> 01:04:48,120
Speaker 2: Ain't nothing wrong.

1470
01:04:48,560 --> 01:04:50,680
Speaker 3: Artists be popping and I'm popping in on the video.

1471
01:04:51,520 --> 01:04:53,320
Speaker 2: What's some of the artists that you didn't sign that

1472
01:04:53,400 --> 01:04:54,600
Speaker 2: you didn't got signed?

1473
01:04:54,600 --> 01:04:57,760
Speaker 4: The kid We're not a kid? My brother King I Lee.

1474
01:04:58,400 --> 01:05:01,919
Speaker 4: He's from Jackson, Mississippi. Super Dope put out a couple

1475
01:05:01,920 --> 01:05:04,240
Speaker 4: of projects, one of them called back in the Day.

1476
01:05:04,320 --> 01:05:04,880
Speaker 3: Check that out.

1477
01:05:05,240 --> 01:05:09,800
Speaker 4: Another one called Dead do Them All Dirty, super lyrical,

1478
01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:16,160
Speaker 4: super talented, man sing rap, got different personalities, man, multi

1479
01:05:16,200 --> 01:05:17,680
Speaker 4: facet it can do a lot of things. He was

1480
01:05:17,720 --> 01:05:21,560
Speaker 4: working with another artist, Landscrip Chip, who a friend of

1481
01:05:21,600 --> 01:05:24,520
Speaker 4: the family works with us as well with some things.

1482
01:05:24,520 --> 01:05:26,920
Speaker 4: He not signed to us, but big friend of the

1483
01:05:26,960 --> 01:05:30,680
Speaker 4: family we had him. Had an opportunity to sign everybody

1484
01:05:30,680 --> 01:05:34,720
Speaker 4: we mentioned this interview except Meek. Meek was Meek, But yeah,

1485
01:05:34,760 --> 01:05:36,600
Speaker 4: we signed an artist. I'm trying to build out my company,

1486
01:05:36,640 --> 01:05:39,600
Speaker 4: Winners United. This is our fourth year and music can

1487
01:05:39,640 --> 01:05:40,040
Speaker 4: be tough.

1488
01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:43,920
Speaker 3: You know, it's hard to keep people attention and try

1489
01:05:43,960 --> 01:05:45,720
Speaker 3: to draw them away from what they used to. So

1490
01:05:46,480 --> 01:05:47,880
Speaker 3: we've been working. It's been fun though.

1491
01:05:48,600 --> 01:05:54,120
Speaker 1: It's been fun intro man, so you know any okay,

1492
01:05:54,720 --> 01:05:55,720
Speaker 1: we love having.

1493
01:05:55,680 --> 01:05:56,560
Speaker 3: I can put it together.

1494
01:05:56,880 --> 01:05:59,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love to hear about like one thing all

1495
01:06:00,560 --> 01:06:02,360
Speaker 1: I want to say, like man, like you want the

1496
01:06:02,400 --> 01:06:06,800
Speaker 1: special ones like you Sebastian Mante them guards. They come

1497
01:06:06,840 --> 01:06:08,240
Speaker 1: out of the straight out of high school to be

1498
01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:10,360
Speaker 1: like part of that forty five. I think we like

1499
01:06:10,440 --> 01:06:13,080
Speaker 1: forty five forty six of us to be guards come

1500
01:06:13,120 --> 01:06:15,520
Speaker 1: out of there. I feel like, man, y'all very special.

1501
01:06:15,560 --> 01:06:18,560
Speaker 1: Man We really appreciate you, bron I appreciating on here

1502
01:06:18,600 --> 01:06:19,440
Speaker 1: man showing.

1503
01:06:19,760 --> 01:06:20,360
Speaker 3: Y'all as well.

1504
01:06:20,440 --> 01:06:22,800
Speaker 4: You know, y'all, we talk a lot about culture. Y'all

1505
01:06:22,800 --> 01:06:25,360
Speaker 4: are culture. You know, y'all had guys wearing head bands,

1506
01:06:25,440 --> 01:06:29,120
Speaker 4: Jordan's hitting their heads making shots. You know, so y'all

1507
01:06:29,240 --> 01:06:30,800
Speaker 4: just as much as the culture too. I'm gonna tell

1508
01:06:30,800 --> 01:06:32,560
Speaker 4: a quick story about Q. He left me outside the

1509
01:06:32,560 --> 01:06:33,200
Speaker 4: club one time.

1510
01:06:33,240 --> 01:06:36,280
Speaker 3: He don't know he did this. I did, did me dirty,

1511
01:06:36,280 --> 01:06:37,840
Speaker 3: But you ain't know you did me dirty. I wasn't.

1512
01:06:37,840 --> 01:06:39,280
Speaker 3: I wouldn't nobody to know at the time.

1513
01:06:39,360 --> 01:06:40,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's tell it.

1514
01:06:40,200 --> 01:06:40,880
Speaker 3: I wouldn't nobody.

1515
01:06:41,640 --> 01:06:43,120
Speaker 2: Let's tell shit.

1516
01:06:43,720 --> 01:06:49,439
Speaker 4: Chicago, Chicago, in Chicago. He definitely Chicago, Chicago summer time.

1517
01:06:49,560 --> 01:06:51,960
Speaker 4: I'm with Andre Wi Dollar. We pull up to the club,

1518
01:06:52,480 --> 01:06:54,120
Speaker 4: were calling him to come get us and ship.

1519
01:06:54,160 --> 01:06:57,000
Speaker 3: I'm still a little homie, you know what I'm saying.

1520
01:06:57,320 --> 01:06:58,720
Speaker 3: I'm just part of the un rode.

1521
01:07:00,040 --> 01:07:00,600
Speaker 2: Know what I'm saying.

1522
01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:05,240
Speaker 4: He got a green jumpsuit on. He come outside. He like, wave,

1523
01:07:05,280 --> 01:07:06,560
Speaker 4: what's off? Go back head.

1524
01:07:10,720 --> 01:07:12,520
Speaker 3: As dra that's Drake.

1525
01:07:12,720 --> 01:07:13,440
Speaker 2: That sounds like.

1526
01:07:15,800 --> 01:07:16,000
Speaker 7: Look.

1527
01:07:16,360 --> 01:07:18,040
Speaker 3: Waved us somewhere back of the club.

1528
01:07:18,640 --> 01:07:19,480
Speaker 2: I saw, y'all.

1529
01:07:27,000 --> 01:07:31,360
Speaker 3: You know I never took it personal because I know

1530
01:07:31,480 --> 01:07:33,200
Speaker 3: for a fact he didn't know how existed.

1531
01:07:34,480 --> 01:07:38,080
Speaker 2: You know, all us a little noodles, but ship, we

1532
01:07:38,160 --> 01:07:38,960
Speaker 2: all know how it is.

1533
01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:43,800
Speaker 3: I'm having my time and I got here.

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Speaker 2: Listen. You probably can't see I came out. I didn't

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Speaker 2: see something. I wouldn't.

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Speaker 5: You know, if I was, I would have been like,

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Speaker 5: ain't I came outside, I'm looking for you.

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Speaker 2: You came out like probably frustrated.

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Speaker 5: I couldn't see whether I'm out of here, come out

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Speaker 5: of the club, get people too much, probably like my

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Speaker 5: fifth sixth trip out of your man.

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Speaker 2: And that's real. You know what I'm saying. That's what

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Speaker 2: it is.

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Speaker 5: Though we live on location, we out here and li

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Speaker 5: lah lamb man. We got Lemon pepperlu in the bill

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Speaker 5: that it has been too solid man, one of the

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Speaker 5: best six man ever.

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Speaker 7: Do it tune in LEO.

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Speaker 2: All right.

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