WEBVTT - Girls Talk, 'Boys Talk: Depth Test 0:00:02.120 --> 0:00:02.640 The following. 0:00:02.720 --> 0:00:05.160 He's a production of Dallascowboys dot Com and the Dallas 0:00:05.160 --> 0:00:06.439 Cowboys Football Club. 0:00:08.520 --> 0:00:09.480 Cowboys. 0:00:10.920 --> 0:00:15.800 This is Girls Talk Boys Talk presented by Jigsaw Dating, 0:00:16.120 --> 0:00:20.880 preferred dating partner of the Dallas Cowboys, and broadcasting live 0:00:21.160 --> 0:00:24.200 from Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the Star. 0:00:25.000 --> 0:00:36.559 Now your host, Nicole Hutchinson, Welcome in. 0:00:36.560 --> 0:00:38.839 To Girls Talk Boys Talk, presented by Jig Saw, the 0:00:38.840 --> 0:00:41.800 preferred dating partner of the Dallas Cowboys. Right here in 0:00:41.880 --> 0:00:45.240 the SWBC studio, I'm Nicole Hedg sit alongside Christy Scales 0:00:45.280 --> 0:00:49.519 and Bonnie Joe Laughlin. Ladies, Hi, y'all doing today? 0:00:50.040 --> 0:00:51.880 I feel good. I'm sure you guys already talked about 0:00:51.880 --> 0:00:53.560 it yesterday, but I mean, I know it's too I 0:00:53.600 --> 0:00:55.520 should say, kind of two bad teams, but I'll take 0:00:55.520 --> 0:00:57.720 that win because it's something for them to build upon. 0:00:57.840 --> 0:00:59.640 And we, you know, we're able to see that we 0:00:59.680 --> 0:01:01.800 could off the run because I did think singletarys have 0:01:01.880 --> 0:01:04.000 a big day and he didn't, you know, and then 0:01:04.240 --> 0:01:06.639 obviously trying to establish our run a little bit wreco 0:01:06.760 --> 0:01:08.840 impressed me. I still would like to get over one 0:01:08.880 --> 0:01:10.840 hundred yards rushing at some point. I think we got 0:01:10.840 --> 0:01:14.680 like one O two, maybe Cleveland week one, but you know, 0:01:14.760 --> 0:01:16.920 and Zeke did a little bit, so I was happy. 0:01:17.000 --> 0:01:19.680 And I think CD's got his rhythm and Dak looked great. 0:01:20.160 --> 0:01:22.639 He was very efficient, So I was happy. 0:01:22.720 --> 0:01:24.319 And we didn't get a chance to hear I know, 0:01:24.360 --> 0:01:27.080 we're going to talk more of the DeMarcus Lawrence. 0:01:27.160 --> 0:01:28.840 News and yeah, that's the only thing. Though, when you 0:01:28.880 --> 0:01:31.240 lose those two guys, it's like, gosh, I mean, I 0:01:31.280 --> 0:01:32.959 obviously you take a dub all day long, but when 0:01:33.000 --> 0:01:35.440 you lose those two guys, sure did it give. 0:01:35.280 --> 0:01:36.160 You a little hope though? 0:01:36.240 --> 0:01:38.440 That win from the Giants did give you more hope 0:01:38.520 --> 0:01:39.800 heading into week five? 0:01:39.959 --> 0:01:40.119 Oh? 0:01:40.120 --> 0:01:42.360 Absolutely, And I think it gives these rookie guys confidence. 0:01:42.360 --> 0:01:43.720 And we all know how much you know, this is 0:01:43.760 --> 0:01:46.759 the NFL, so any given Sunday, you know, so any 0:01:46.800 --> 0:01:49.200 given Thursday night. So it just it was something where 0:01:49.280 --> 0:01:52.400 I thought, Okay, we could start to see some flashes 0:01:52.440 --> 0:01:55.480 of what's the potential. And I was happy with it. 0:01:55.520 --> 0:01:57.240 I know, again, it's a giant, just like we talked 0:01:57.240 --> 0:01:59.160 about the Browns. But I'm gonna take it because at 0:01:59.160 --> 0:02:02.480 this point, you any any opponent is a good opponent 0:02:02.680 --> 0:02:03.240 right now. 0:02:03.200 --> 0:02:05.320 Yeah, that was one of the themes yesterday. Is a 0:02:05.480 --> 0:02:07.760 W is a W? You don't get extra credit for 0:02:07.800 --> 0:02:10.480 winning pretty or right? You know you you. 0:02:10.240 --> 0:02:12.359 You're in the wing column and you know, and it's 0:02:12.360 --> 0:02:14.400 a division win, so you know, I'm happy with that. 0:02:14.560 --> 0:02:16.600 Yeah, I don't know about the Giants being the Giants, 0:02:16.639 --> 0:02:18.480 so we can't say that anymore because they didn't look 0:02:18.520 --> 0:02:20.920 too bad. They left some touchdowns off the field that 0:02:20.919 --> 0:02:22.160 could have been a whole different game. 0:02:22.280 --> 0:02:23.519 And that's why I like is that they held the 0:02:23.639 --> 0:02:26.560 actually to just field goal, five field goals and no touchdowns, 0:02:26.560 --> 0:02:27.400 So that was that was good. 0:02:27.560 --> 0:02:29.720 Yeah, And the thing that everyone was harping on going 0:02:29.760 --> 0:02:33.080 into that game was improving the run defense and you 0:02:33.160 --> 0:02:36.040 mentioned singletary and shoot, when you allow only one point 0:02:36.080 --> 0:02:36.720 one yards per. 0:02:37.120 --> 0:02:38.640 Twenty six yards total, yeah. 0:02:38.480 --> 0:02:42.440 That's just an amazing, uh you know, way to finish. 0:02:42.480 --> 0:02:46.000 And actually I say finish, you take it, move forward 0:02:46.040 --> 0:02:47.120 and build upon exactly. 0:02:47.200 --> 0:02:48.480 And you were there. How was that? And I'm sure 0:02:48.480 --> 0:02:50.880 you talked about yesterday, but was it? How is the energy? 0:02:50.960 --> 0:02:52.480 Yeah? It was good. There were a lot of Cowboy 0:02:52.520 --> 0:02:55.000 fans there. There always are when we play in New York, 0:02:55.080 --> 0:02:59.880 and so yeah, the Giants hung in there pretty much, 0:03:00.040 --> 0:03:02.079 but yeah, by the end it was just the Cowboys 0:03:02.080 --> 0:03:04.520 fans that were left behind the visiting bench. So that's 0:03:04.560 --> 0:03:05.240 always sweet. 0:03:05.480 --> 0:03:08.480 It's always sweet to see this run defense taking steps 0:03:08.560 --> 0:03:11.760 in the red. Yes, as well, when you talk about 0:03:11.800 --> 0:03:15.440 the unfortunate news of DeMarcus Lawrence and Michael Parsons, they 0:03:15.480 --> 0:03:18.680 will be missing some time. DeMarcus Lawrence officially being placed 0:03:18.680 --> 0:03:21.799 on ir and so that means that he will be 0:03:22.280 --> 0:03:24.960 out for about four weeks, could possibly miss some more 0:03:25.000 --> 0:03:28.240 time with that midfoot injury. But the Cowboys have signed 0:03:28.680 --> 0:03:32.600 kJ Henry defensive end who was on the Bengals practice squad. 0:03:33.240 --> 0:03:38.120 First thoughts on what Henry brings that other guys in 0:03:38.120 --> 0:03:41.120 that defensive end position in the Cowboys does not bring. 0:03:41.360 --> 0:03:44.200 Played a really good program at Clemson and was a 0:03:44.200 --> 0:03:46.800 fifth round pick of Washington last year and got quite 0:03:46.800 --> 0:03:48.800 a bit of playing time for a fifth round pick, 0:03:48.840 --> 0:03:52.360 over two hundred snaps on defense and played in ten games. 0:03:52.440 --> 0:03:56.160 And here's the main thing. In Washington last year, his 0:03:56.240 --> 0:04:00.000 position coach was Jeff Scanina, who was the new Cowboys 0:04:00.040 --> 0:04:03.480 defensive line coach. So there is product knowledge here and 0:04:03.520 --> 0:04:07.720 so Jeff knows exactly what to expect from kJ as 0:04:07.760 --> 0:04:09.840 he comes in. But you know, if you look at 0:04:09.840 --> 0:04:13.040 the stat line, look beyond the sacks one and a 0:04:13.040 --> 0:04:19.440 half sacks, but also six quarterback hits, four tackles for loss, 0:04:20.320 --> 0:04:24.160 nine pressures, pretty good against the run as well. Overall, 0:04:24.240 --> 0:04:27.159 nineteen tackles. So that's a pretty good stat line in 0:04:27.440 --> 0:04:31.960 just ten games. So what happened was, after that rookie 0:04:32.040 --> 0:04:35.080 year in Washington, you go through the off season, get 0:04:35.080 --> 0:04:37.960 to training camp. Washington releases him at the end of 0:04:38.000 --> 0:04:40.359 training camp and wants to sign him back to the 0:04:40.360 --> 0:04:44.039 practice squad. But because he's a young guy, he's on waivers. 0:04:44.600 --> 0:04:46.719 And actually one thing I heard was that the Cowboys 0:04:46.720 --> 0:04:50.680 were considering claiming him off waivers, but Cincinnati got him, 0:04:51.080 --> 0:04:56.200 and so Cincinnati signed him to their fifty three men. 0:04:56.320 --> 0:04:58.240 He played a couple games, so he got reverted to 0:04:58.279 --> 0:05:00.719 the practice squad and the Cowboys plucked him from the 0:05:00.760 --> 0:05:04.359 practice squad. So to me, the main thing is the 0:05:04.400 --> 0:05:08.360 coaching staff. There's already you know, some as I say, 0:05:08.440 --> 0:05:12.560 product knowledge, but a better feel of exactly what he 0:05:12.640 --> 0:05:14.720 can do and how they think he can contribute. 0:05:14.839 --> 0:05:17.440 Another thing I like is that he can contribute on 0:05:17.520 --> 0:05:18.200 special teams. 0:05:18.279 --> 0:05:19.599 Exactly good point. 0:05:19.640 --> 0:05:22.080 In twenty twenty three, he played three hundred and forty 0:05:22.120 --> 0:05:24.880 seven total snaps. Of course, seventy eight were special teams, 0:05:24.920 --> 0:05:28.640 not as much as his defensive snaps. But you love, 0:05:28.920 --> 0:05:32.160 of course Bones Fossils. John Fossil is also going to 0:05:32.200 --> 0:05:34.479 be very happy about an extra body, an extra blocker 0:05:34.920 --> 0:05:36.840 on special teams as well. But what did you think 0:05:36.839 --> 0:05:39.120 about kJ Henry and the new signing? What do you feel? 0:05:39.160 --> 0:05:41.400 Yeah, I actually know one of the Bengals scouts and 0:05:41.440 --> 0:05:42.839 so he actually gave me a little bit of skyt 0:05:42.960 --> 0:05:44.680 report on him, and he said he's talented athletic, and 0:05:44.720 --> 0:05:47.000 he said he really moves his hips well, Christy so 0:05:47.080 --> 0:05:48.880 gets him off that corner really well, which I thought 0:05:49.040 --> 0:05:51.640 was you know, and he's got a lot of upside. 0:05:51.680 --> 0:05:53.880 You know, he's that that cross chop movie told me about, 0:05:53.880 --> 0:05:57.000 and he's got you know, springing outside linebacker. So you know, 0:05:57.080 --> 0:05:59.880 they they all said they loved him, so that's you know, 0:06:00.080 --> 0:06:01.800 it's actually a huge loss for them because they are 0:06:01.839 --> 0:06:03.640 hoping to elevate him at some point. So for us 0:06:03.640 --> 0:06:05.560 to grab him, they said it's a win win, So 0:06:05.600 --> 0:06:06.360 I thought that was great. 0:06:06.640 --> 0:06:08.640 Yeah, he looks like kind of one of these taller, 0:06:08.800 --> 0:06:12.080 thinner guys, you know, so kind of off the edge. 0:06:12.160 --> 0:06:15.039 Yeah, exactly so, but are athletic. 0:06:15.080 --> 0:06:17.000 Yeah. But he also put up some decent, you know 0:06:17.279 --> 0:06:20.120 stats against the run the previous year in Washington, so 0:06:20.200 --> 0:06:22.800 hopefully he can hold that up, because you know that's 0:06:22.839 --> 0:06:25.560 one thing with Marshawn Nelan, the rookie who's going to 0:06:25.640 --> 0:06:28.000 come in and be one of the starters now with 0:06:28.040 --> 0:06:32.360 both Micah and Dee Law Michah missing hopefully not too 0:06:32.400 --> 0:06:35.920 much time, but you know, he's a good player against 0:06:35.960 --> 0:06:38.200 the run, so you don't want that drop off to 0:06:38.240 --> 0:06:40.599 where it's a guy who's like just a pastor exactly. 0:06:40.800 --> 0:06:43.919 And you mentioned Marshaw Neeland. So that's now two young 0:06:43.960 --> 0:06:48.239 guys within this defensive end room. That's a lot of youth. 0:06:48.440 --> 0:06:52.000 I don't know, are you guys confident with that? I mean, 0:06:52.040 --> 0:06:52.840 you really don't have a choice. 0:06:52.880 --> 0:06:55.360 Second, yeah, the confident. We haven't really seen him. I 0:06:55.400 --> 0:06:58.479 mean I recognized the name just from preparing for the 0:06:58.520 --> 0:07:02.200 Commanders last year, but other than just the recognition of 0:07:02.200 --> 0:07:03.960 the name, I couldn't tell you any more about it. 0:07:03.960 --> 0:07:06.000 That's why Bonnie Jill, I'm glad you're able to talk 0:07:06.040 --> 0:07:08.520 to your friend who's the scalp, because that's some good stoke. 0:07:08.600 --> 0:07:11.240 It was all pretty upside, which was good. The fact 0:07:11.240 --> 0:07:13.200 that he said that we would wanted to elevate him 0:07:13.240 --> 0:07:15.520 at some point like that was there waiting and then 0:07:15.560 --> 0:07:17.920 for us to grab him that they were upset about that. 0:07:18.200 --> 0:07:20.640 So good job of the Cowboys for doing that for sure. 0:07:20.680 --> 0:07:24.880 With the state of this defensive line, I know it 0:07:24.960 --> 0:07:28.160 pains me to even think about it, with these losses, 0:07:30.200 --> 0:07:33.440 is there any concern heading in? I mean, because now 0:07:33.480 --> 0:07:36.000 you're putting your faith in I mean Marshall Neeland. Don't 0:07:36.000 --> 0:07:37.480 get me wrong. He has improved as a pastor. 0:07:37.520 --> 0:07:39.360 He definitely has of the last couple of weeks, and 0:07:39.360 --> 0:07:40.080 the coaches love him. 0:07:40.120 --> 0:07:43.440 They said they love him, and he's more confident. You 0:07:43.480 --> 0:07:45.960 can see it in his play. But now you're having 0:07:46.000 --> 0:07:50.360 to rely on Carl Lawson and Chauncey Golden, who again 0:07:50.520 --> 0:07:54.280 has improved as well. But with the amount of snaps 0:07:54.280 --> 0:07:56.840 that they have not played, is there any concern of 0:07:57.320 --> 0:07:59.120 what the production looks like for them? 0:07:59.160 --> 0:08:02.160 Well, I'd like to share something that Mike Tomlin, the 0:08:02.640 --> 0:08:05.360 Steelers head coach, said today in his press conference, and 0:08:05.400 --> 0:08:08.280 it goes to what we were talking about yesterday on 0:08:08.320 --> 0:08:13.400 this podcast. We were saying that Mike McCarthy had alluded 0:08:13.400 --> 0:08:15.720 to it. When you lose a Michaeh. Parsons, when you 0:08:15.760 --> 0:08:18.200 lose a DeMarcus Lawrence, two of the best at their 0:08:18.240 --> 0:08:21.560 position in the game, uh and Micah one of the 0:08:21.560 --> 0:08:24.640 top two or three pass rushers. It's not a one 0:08:24.760 --> 0:08:29.720 for one exchange. You're not Chauncey Goldstin and nieland are 0:08:29.760 --> 0:08:33.679 not replacing Micah and d law because nobody can. So 0:08:33.760 --> 0:08:36.960 we were talking about how Zimmer's gonna have to, you know, 0:08:37.040 --> 0:08:39.280 do some things and scheme it up. So let's hear 0:08:39.440 --> 0:08:45.880 what Mike Tomlin had to say about that today. Mike 0:08:45.960 --> 0:08:49.760 Zimmer is no novice. He's been around, We've competed against 0:08:49.800 --> 0:08:52.160 him over the years. I've got a lot of respect 0:08:52.200 --> 0:08:55.840 for his approach to ball, his aggressive schematic demeanor. He's 0:08:55.880 --> 0:08:58.679 one of the godfathers of double A pressure. Double A. 0:08:58.880 --> 0:09:02.800 That means the pressure, the blitzing up the middle, pressuring 0:09:03.360 --> 0:09:06.240 the quarterback up the gap on each side of the 0:09:06.280 --> 0:09:11.040 center in one dimensional passing moments. I've seen it in Cincinnati. 0:09:11.160 --> 0:09:13.880 So Tomlin used to go against Zimmer twice a year 0:09:14.120 --> 0:09:17.720 when Zimmer was the defensive coordinator for the Cincinnati Bengals. 0:09:18.920 --> 0:09:21.880 You know, we better prepare ourselves for multiple blitz looks 0:09:21.880 --> 0:09:24.080 and so forth. I'd imagine that he's going to have 0:09:24.200 --> 0:09:27.120 all the schematic tools at his disposal in terms of 0:09:27.200 --> 0:09:31.000 creating pressure on the quarterback, particularly maybe with his edge 0:09:31.000 --> 0:09:33.480 guys out. You do what you've got to do from 0:09:33.520 --> 0:09:36.640 a coach's perspective, And I use this phrase all the time. 0:09:37.160 --> 0:09:40.920 If you've got red paint, you paint your barn red. 0:09:41.720 --> 0:09:44.400 And so with those dynamic edge people like Lawrence and 0:09:44.440 --> 0:09:46.920 maybe even Parsons out, we better get ready for a 0:09:46.920 --> 0:09:48.760 lot of schematic pressure from Zimmer. 0:09:48.840 --> 0:09:51.000 I'm not gonna lie. Can you the red paint? 0:09:51.520 --> 0:09:52.080 Say it again? 0:09:52.160 --> 0:09:52.760 And cool? 0:09:52.840 --> 0:09:53.280 I love that. 0:09:53.400 --> 0:09:57.800 Okay, So this is Mike Tomlin. I use the phrase 0:09:57.840 --> 0:10:01.120 all the time. If you've got red paint, you paint 0:10:01.160 --> 0:10:06.240 your barn red. In other words, using using using the players, 0:10:06.440 --> 0:10:10.480 like the way using players the way that you know, 0:10:10.600 --> 0:10:14.200 playing to their strengths, right, And if you're without two 0:10:14.280 --> 0:10:17.760 dynamic edge pass rushers, which they are, how do you 0:10:17.880 --> 0:10:21.000 compensate for that? So we were saying, do you send 0:10:21.040 --> 0:10:24.440 demo on some things? Uh, you know, blitz over shown 0:10:24.520 --> 0:10:28.480 to you used Jordan Lewis off the as off the 0:10:28.600 --> 0:10:32.160 nickel is you know, blitzing from that so and it 0:10:32.200 --> 0:10:36.520 doesn't mean crazy things, it means mixing it up. And 0:10:37.040 --> 0:10:40.720 you know, Chauncey Goldston is a guy who the previous 0:10:41.040 --> 0:10:44.120 couple of years was uh most of the time when 0:10:44.160 --> 0:10:47.160 he came in, it was in a nickel pass rush situation, 0:10:47.320 --> 0:10:50.640 and so instead of rushing from defensive end, they would 0:10:50.679 --> 0:10:53.040 move him to the inside and he would pass rush 0:10:53.080 --> 0:10:55.720 from the inside. Well, now he's more likely to pass 0:10:55.800 --> 0:10:57.559 rush from the outside. I mean, he could still move 0:10:57.559 --> 0:11:00.280 inside and you have lost In and Kneeland out side. 0:11:00.320 --> 0:11:03.880 You can move mare Shaan around too. But you know, 0:11:04.000 --> 0:11:07.720 I just think we're gonna see multiple things Kay. 0:11:07.720 --> 0:11:10.480 And goldsend with his lengthen size, don't you agree, good 0:11:10.520 --> 0:11:12.840 against the run from what I've seen so far. 0:11:13.120 --> 0:11:15.599 Yeah, yeah, he plays better off the edge too. I 0:11:16.160 --> 0:11:18.240 love that Zimmer wanted to try him out. I mean, 0:11:18.240 --> 0:11:21.680 obviously he played defensive end before, but when they moved 0:11:21.760 --> 0:11:23.640 him into the nterior, I like the fact that Zimmer 0:11:23.840 --> 0:11:25.559 wants to give him more opportunities off the edge. 0:11:25.559 --> 0:11:26.800 I feel like he's a great pass. 0:11:26.640 --> 0:11:28.880 Usher as well, yeah, we'll see you see a lot. 0:11:28.920 --> 0:11:30.880 And the other thing, Bonnie Joe we were talking about 0:11:30.960 --> 0:11:34.520 yesterday is this is Chauncey's fourth year, right the final 0:11:34.600 --> 0:11:38.360 year of his Rooky contract. So with this opportunity, it 0:11:38.440 --> 0:11:42.680 is a golden opportunity for him to contracts and really 0:11:42.720 --> 0:11:44.400 make Hay and your contract here. 0:11:44.559 --> 0:11:46.120 Yeah, it's gonna be a lot of fun to see. 0:11:46.240 --> 0:11:47.800 It should be to see what we would see these 0:11:47.800 --> 0:11:49.360 guys and what Zim does, Yes. 0:11:49.160 --> 0:11:50.439 For sure, and it's gonna be a lot of fun 0:11:50.480 --> 0:11:52.160 to see what this offense does on the side of 0:11:52.200 --> 0:11:53.880 the ball. We're gonna switch gears coming up in the 0:11:53.880 --> 0:11:55.840 next break, so stick with us. 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It just makes fun of me for saying, 0:14:37.600 --> 0:14:39.800 all right, all right, alright, alright. 0:14:40.680 --> 0:14:43.720 It is okay, all right, ladies, this offense so far 0:14:45.280 --> 0:14:48.280 Finally getting some production there with Rico Dawdle. Love to 0:14:48.320 --> 0:14:49.960 see him get his first touchdown of the year, and 0:14:50.080 --> 0:14:52.800 CD Lamb as well against the Giants. What did y'all 0:14:52.880 --> 0:14:54.960 like from this offense? We'll start with likes first and 0:14:55.000 --> 0:14:56.680 then we'll move to dislikes. What did you like? 0:14:56.760 --> 0:14:58.960 Christ Jack had his best game of the year by 0:14:59.040 --> 0:15:01.880 far for twenty seven. Yeah, and it looks like the 0:15:01.880 --> 0:15:04.960 connection to CD, which the first few weeks was you 0:15:04.960 --> 0:15:05.480 could tell. 0:15:05.440 --> 0:15:08.680 Was a little dicey, which I could be back and. 0:15:09.360 --> 0:15:11.520 A little more efficient with the run. But again, you 0:15:11.520 --> 0:15:14.600 know it's it's the same thing from the previous couple 0:15:14.600 --> 0:15:16.600 of weeks. You've got to cut down on the penalties, 0:15:16.760 --> 0:15:21.080 yes I am. Yeah, yeah, so still shooting yourself in 0:15:21.120 --> 0:15:25.600 the foot a bit, but major improvement. But particularly with Dak, 0:15:25.760 --> 0:15:27.600 it was he was outstanding. 0:15:27.760 --> 0:15:27.960 Yeah. 0:15:28.000 --> 0:15:29.440 I like how active he was, and I really like 0:15:29.480 --> 0:15:31.400 how he spread the ball around, you know, that was 0:15:31.440 --> 0:15:34.920 really impressive. And third down and red zone penalties, I 0:15:34.920 --> 0:15:36.800 mean that'll just kill a drive. You'll know that. So 0:15:36.840 --> 0:15:40.440 that's really frustrating to see that. But yeah, thirty percent 0:15:40.480 --> 0:15:44.920 on third down conversions, Yeah, yes, that's it's got to 0:15:44.960 --> 0:15:45.320 be better. 0:15:45.360 --> 0:15:48.240 It's you're going to be that in the mid forties 0:15:48.360 --> 0:15:53.040 or higher. And absolutely yeah, and that's beyond. 0:15:53.520 --> 0:15:56.360 Sorry after absolutely so I said that, then I looked, 0:15:56.400 --> 0:15:57.360 try to Christy. 0:15:58.000 --> 0:16:00.840 We're joking because we have these verbal crutches. You call 0:16:00.880 --> 0:16:02.760 it when you use the same words over and over 0:16:02.800 --> 0:16:07.760 and absolutely as mine. Absolutely so. Now the thing is 0:16:08.120 --> 0:16:12.760 now that you're four games in, it is what Mike 0:16:12.840 --> 0:16:15.360 McCarthy says with September fiftell you are kind of like 0:16:15.640 --> 0:16:18.120 showing you. But now at this point you're showing who 0:16:18.160 --> 0:16:21.680 you are, and so what we've seen so far we 0:16:21.720 --> 0:16:25.320 don't like. And you cannot get through a season with 0:16:25.560 --> 0:16:29.720 a third down conversion percentage in the low thirties. That's 0:16:29.800 --> 0:16:32.000 just not going to cut it. And part of that 0:16:32.040 --> 0:16:33.840 goes to the run game and not getting in the 0:16:33.920 --> 0:16:36.520 rhythm or established. And I thought the run game has 0:16:36.560 --> 0:16:38.600 been better the last couple of weeks, but then you 0:16:38.640 --> 0:16:41.680 move behind the chains with those penalties. So it goes 0:16:41.720 --> 0:16:45.800 back to this team. And I'm sorry, three years into 0:16:45.880 --> 0:16:49.920 girls talk, boys talk say the same thing every time, absolutely, 0:16:50.320 --> 0:16:54.440 and that is the team's not just Cowboys, but across 0:16:54.480 --> 0:16:59.040 the NFL. You're not good enough to beat yourselves if 0:16:59.040 --> 0:17:01.400 you beat yourselves. It's hard enough to beat the opponent 0:17:01.520 --> 0:17:04.280 when you're seeing yourself as well. You just can't. It's 0:17:04.480 --> 0:17:06.760 teams just can't overcome that in this league because the 0:17:06.760 --> 0:17:07.919 margins are so small. 0:17:08.160 --> 0:17:08.720 Yeah. 0:17:08.840 --> 0:17:10.560 I was glad though, to see a little bit more 0:17:10.560 --> 0:17:12.600 of the run game kind of, you know, because we 0:17:12.640 --> 0:17:14.280 all know if you don't have a good run game, 0:17:14.480 --> 0:17:16.280 you know, you don't win games at the end of 0:17:16.320 --> 0:17:18.760 the day, and that's something that's always been concerning. Get 0:17:18.800 --> 0:17:21.919 that pressure off deck. So I'm hoping as the weeks 0:17:21.960 --> 0:17:24.399 go on, they're kind of kinking out right, they're ironing 0:17:24.440 --> 0:17:27.000 out all those kinks, and hopefully we'll figure it out 0:17:27.080 --> 0:17:29.760 this week even more because I did see an upside, 0:17:29.800 --> 0:17:30.800 definitely for sure. 0:17:30.920 --> 0:17:35.320 I like the fact that the run game improved only 0:17:35.320 --> 0:17:38.360 eighty yards on the ground, but they didn't see I'll 0:17:38.359 --> 0:17:40.480 take it better than what they had the week prior, 0:17:40.560 --> 0:17:44.600 but when it didn't work. I like how McCarthy used 0:17:44.800 --> 0:17:47.840 douce Van in space, made sure to get Rico Dadell 0:17:47.840 --> 0:17:50.800 out there in space, because hey, rico'dad's touchdown was actually 0:17:50.840 --> 0:17:54.840 a receiving touchdown, so you know, he's trying these different ways. 0:17:54.920 --> 0:17:58.280 The screenplays getting running backs involved in the screen game. 0:17:58.880 --> 0:18:01.720 I thought that was actually a different thing. I mean, 0:18:01.720 --> 0:18:04.080 that was kind of what they used earlier in the 0:18:04.119 --> 0:18:06.760 season last year, until they started getting more confident in 0:18:06.840 --> 0:18:08.119 driving the ball downfield. 0:18:08.680 --> 0:18:08.800 Uh. 0:18:09.080 --> 0:18:11.480 Were y'all confident in the play calling? Y'all like the 0:18:11.480 --> 0:18:12.240 play calling at all? 0:18:12.560 --> 0:18:13.320 Uh? 0:18:13.359 --> 0:18:14.480 Could there have been a different way? 0:18:14.520 --> 0:18:16.800 But I did you know? Part of it was again, 0:18:17.080 --> 0:18:21.000 here's so many, so many penalties in the game that 0:18:21.040 --> 0:18:24.320 there was really no flow. Sure, and we have not 0:18:24.400 --> 0:18:25.880 seen the Cowboys offense yet. 0:18:25.960 --> 0:18:28.439 Yeah, right, we don't even know. Yeah, Hunter Lukie Can 0:18:28.520 --> 0:18:31.040 mentioned him as well because he really impressed me, and 0:18:31.080 --> 0:18:34.359 I feel like listening to often the Corodinator Sean or 0:18:34.440 --> 0:18:37.080 how he said that there's nothing this kid can't do, 0:18:37.280 --> 0:18:39.520 you know that he's pretty versatile. I mean, so I 0:18:39.560 --> 0:18:41.560 really love how they're using him. And I can see 0:18:41.600 --> 0:18:44.439 the confidence that Dak is seeing him because there's some 0:18:44.480 --> 0:18:47.679 real tough third down drives where I'm like, wow, you know, 0:18:47.920 --> 0:18:50.840 real tight coverages and it's happening. 0:18:51.000 --> 0:18:51.359 I like that. 0:18:51.400 --> 0:18:52.119 I don't know if y'all have. 0:18:53.160 --> 0:18:55.080 Yeah, would you be surprised to note that he got 0:18:55.119 --> 0:18:57.480 the most of all the running back snaps and see 0:18:57.480 --> 0:18:59.600 the game last Thursday, so I didn't know that. But 0:19:00.280 --> 0:19:03.160 Lipkey was on the field for twenty nine plays, okay, 0:19:03.600 --> 0:19:07.320 and I'm going offensive snaps, not special teams, So fifty 0:19:07.359 --> 0:19:11.200 two percent. Rico was second with twenty five snaps forty 0:19:11.200 --> 0:19:15.439 five percent. Deuce only had four, Zeke had ten. So 0:19:16.840 --> 0:19:21.920