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Speaker 4: Now your host, Nicole Hutchinson, Welcome in.

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Speaker 5: To Girls Talk Boys Talk, presented by Jig Saw, the

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Speaker 5: and Bonnie Joe Laughlin. Ladies, Hi, y'all doing today?

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Speaker 3: I feel good. I'm sure you guys already talked about

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Speaker 3: it yesterday, but I mean, I know it's too I

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Speaker 3: should say, kind of two bad teams, but I'll take

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Speaker 3: that win because it's something for them to build upon.

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Speaker 3: And we, you know, we're able to see that we

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Speaker 3: could off the run because I did think singletarys have

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Speaker 3: a big day and he didn't, you know, and then

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Speaker 3: obviously trying to establish our run a little bit wreco

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Speaker 3: impressed me. I still would like to get over one

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Speaker 3: hundred yards rushing at some point. I think we got

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Speaker 3: like one O two, maybe Cleveland week one, but you know,

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Speaker 3: and Zeke did a little bit, so I was happy.

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Speaker 3: And I think CD's got his rhythm and Dak looked great.

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Speaker 3: He was very efficient, So I was happy.

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Speaker 5: And we didn't get a chance to hear I know,

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Speaker 5: we're going to talk more of the DeMarcus Lawrence.

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Speaker 3: News and yeah, that's the only thing. Though, when you

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Speaker 3: lose those two guys, it's like, gosh, I mean, I

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Speaker 3: obviously you take a dub all day long, but when

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Speaker 3: you lose those two guys, sure did it give.

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Speaker 6: You a little hope though?

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Speaker 5: That win from the Giants did give you more hope

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Speaker 5: heading into week five?

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Speaker 6: Oh?

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, And I think it gives these rookie guys confidence.

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Speaker 3: And we all know how much you know, this is

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Speaker 3: the NFL, so any given Sunday, you know, so any

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Speaker 3: I know, again, it's a giant, just like we talked

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Speaker 3: this point, you any any opponent is a good opponent

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that was one of the themes yesterday. Is a

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Speaker 6: W is a W? You don't get extra credit for

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Speaker 6: winning pretty or right? You know you you.

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Speaker 3: You're in the wing column and you know, and it's

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know about the Giants being the Giants,

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Speaker 5: so we can't say that anymore because they didn't look

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Speaker 5: too bad. They left some touchdowns off the field that

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Speaker 3: And that's why I like is that they held the

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Speaker 6: Yeah, And the thing that everyone was harping on going

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Speaker 6: into that game was improving the run defense and you

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Speaker 3: Twenty six yards total, yeah.

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Speaker 6: That's just an amazing, uh you know, way to finish.

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Speaker 6: And actually I say finish, you take it, move forward

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Speaker 3: And you were there. How was that? And I'm sure

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Speaker 3: you talked about yesterday, but was it? How is the energy?

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Speaker 6: Yeah? It was good. There were a lot of Cowboy

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Speaker 5: It's always sweet to see this run defense taking steps

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Speaker 5: in the red. Yes, as well, when you talk about

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Speaker 5: time with that midfoot injury. But the Cowboys have signed

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Speaker 5: kJ Henry defensive end who was on the Bengals practice squad.

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Speaker 5: First thoughts on what Henry brings that other guys in

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Speaker 6: Played a really good program at Clemson and was a

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Speaker 6: And here's the main thing. In Washington last year, his

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Speaker 6: so Jeff knows exactly what to expect from kJ as

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Speaker 6: just ten games. So what happened was, after that rookie

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Speaker 6: And actually one thing I heard was that the Cowboys

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Speaker 5: Another thing I like is that he can contribute on

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Speaker 3: Exactly good point.

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Speaker 5: In twenty twenty three, he played three hundred and forty

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Speaker 5: seven total snaps. Of course, seventy eight were special teams,

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Speaker 3: I thought that was great.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, he looks like kind of one of these taller,

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Speaker 6: Yeah. But he also put up some decent, you know

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Speaker 6: one thing with Marshawn Nelan, the rookie who's going to

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Speaker 5: And you mentioned Marshaw Neeland. So that's now two young

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Speaker 5: I don't know, are you guys confident with that? I mean,

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Speaker 6: Second, yeah, the confident. We haven't really seen him. I

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Speaker 6: That's why Bonnie Jill, I'm glad you're able to talk

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Speaker 3: It was all pretty upside, which was good. The fact

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Speaker 3: So good job of the Cowboys for doing that for sure.

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Speaker 5: With the state of this defensive line, I know it

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Speaker 5: get me wrong. He has improved as a pastor.

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Speaker 3: He definitely has of the last couple of weeks, and

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Speaker 5: They said they love him, and he's more confident. You

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Speaker 6: Well, I'd like to share something that Mike Tomlin, the

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Speaker 6: what Mike Tomlin had to say about that today. Mike

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Speaker 6: Zimmer is no novice. He's been around, We've competed against

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Speaker 6: That means the pressure, the blitzing up the middle, pressuring

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Speaker 6: So Tomlin used to go against Zimmer twice a year

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Speaker 6: You know, we better prepare ourselves for multiple blitz looks

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Speaker 6: guys out. You do what you've got to do from

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Speaker 6: a coach's perspective, And I use this phrase all the time.

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Speaker 6: If you've got red paint, you paint your barn red.

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Speaker 6: And so with those dynamic edge people like Lawrence and

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Speaker 5: I'm not gonna lie. Can you the red paint?

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Speaker 6: Say it again?

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Speaker 5: And cool?

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Speaker 3: I love that.

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Speaker 6: Okay, So this is Mike Tomlin. I use the phrase

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Speaker 6: all the time. If you've got red paint, you paint

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Speaker 6: your barn red. In other words, using using using the players,

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Speaker 6: playing to their strengths, right, And if you're without two

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Speaker 6: I just think we're gonna see multiple things Kay.

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Speaker 3: And goldsend with his lengthen size, don't you agree, good

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Speaker 3: I feel like he's a great pass.

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Speaker 6: Usher as well, yeah, we'll see you see a lot.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's gonna be a lot of fun to see.

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Speaker 3: It should be to see what we would see these

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Speaker 5: I see what she did there.

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Speaker 3: Yes, changed. It just makes fun of me for saying,

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Speaker 5: It is okay, all right, ladies, this offense so far

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Speaker 5: Finally getting some production there with Rico Dawdle. Love to

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Speaker 5: CD Lamb as well against the Giants. What did y'all

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Speaker 6: Christ Jack had his best game of the year by

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Speaker 3: Was a little dicey, which I could be back and.

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Speaker 6: A little more efficient with the run. But again, you

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Speaker 6: yes I am. Yeah, yeah, so still shooting yourself in

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I like how active he was, and I really like

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Speaker 3: that's really frustrating to see that. But yeah, thirty percent

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Speaker 6: It's you're going to be that in the mid forties

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Speaker 3: Sorry after absolutely so I said that, then I looked,

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Speaker 6: We're joking because we have these verbal crutches. You call

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Speaker 6: just not going to cut it. And part of that

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I was glad though, to see a little bit more

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Speaker 5: I like the fact that the run game improved only

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 5: Were y'all confident in the play calling? Y'all like the

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Speaker 6: Uh?

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Speaker 5: Could there have been a different way?

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Speaker 6: But I did you know? Part of it was again,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, right, we don't even know. Yeah, Hunter Lukie Can

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Speaker 3: I feel like listening to often the Corodinator Sean or

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Speaker 3: you know that he's pretty versatile. I mean, so I

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Speaker 3: real tough third down drives where I'm like, wow, you know,

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Speaker 5: I like that.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if y'all have.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, would you be surprised to note that he got

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Speaker 6: Lipkey was on the field for twenty nine plays, okay,

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Speaker 6: this is this is the most. Let's see the previous week,

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Speaker 6: Hunter Lipkey had thirty snaps, but overall the Cowboys had

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Speaker 6: see that Lipkey's snaps per game is trending up, whereas

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Speaker 6: Zeke's are trending down and Deuces it's really more kind

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Speaker 6: of like with matchups and stuff like Duce had ten

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Speaker 5: Do you guys agree with Zeke's snaps going down?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know.

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Speaker 6: I think part of it though, is they're not like

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Speaker 6: It is more situational. And am I surprised that Rico's

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Speaker 6: getting more snaps than Zeke. No, not at all, because

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Speaker 6: I think that even if they were getting in a

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Speaker 3: But Zeke still look pretty good compared to like from

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Speaker 3: all the other games. He still had some valuable contributions

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Speaker 3: I saw as well. So I think it's working right now.

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Speaker 3: I would be happy to see Dalvin Cook elevated. I

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Speaker 3: people don't want to talk about that. But I don't know, Chris,

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Speaker 3: you may see something different. Well, I doesn't see him

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Speaker 6: I think the issue is, for example, you know you've

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Speaker 6: Who's Nick Vigil? He's a backup line backer who plays

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Speaker 6: hurts uh, that that hurts Dalvin Cook is he's not

436
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Speaker 6: a special teams guy at least that we know of.

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Speaker 6: So a backup running back, and you could say, well,

438
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Speaker 6: Zeke's a backup running back. Now, well, but the hunterd

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Speaker 6: lip Keys, the Deuce Vaughan's and you know Siames, So

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Speaker 6: I think that's an issue. But with the with the

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Speaker 6: situation as it is, with not just defensive line. I

442
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Speaker 6: mentioned Carl Lawson being elevated. Remember in the game Thursday,

443
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Speaker 6: they also elevated Amani over Warrior. Yes, wow, it was

444
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Speaker 6: just didn't even practice that one. And he ended up

445
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Speaker 6: having the interception at the end of the game to

446
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Speaker 6: clinch the win. So that was because of the injury

447
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Speaker 6: to Kaylin Carson. So again, but it just kind of

448
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Speaker 6: is going to be our priority thing.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, with the running back situation and the struggles with

450
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Speaker 5: the run game, do y'all still feel that it's the

451
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Speaker 5: lack of ability within this personnel or is it this

452
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Speaker 5: or is it this offensive line which one do y'all think?

453
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Speaker 5: I know sometimes I know the beginning of the year,

454
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Speaker 5: we're thinking it's maybe at least I'll speak for myself,

455
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Speaker 5: I was thinking that it was more so the personnel

456
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Speaker 5: wasn't there to get it done. And that's again because

457
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Speaker 5: we hadn't seen the attempts. That's something that Mike McCarthy

458
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Speaker 5: even mentioned. But over time, starting to.

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Speaker 3: Think that's it. I was with you too, isn't sure

460
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Speaker 3: about the personnel. If we had the backs could actually

461
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Speaker 3: do it. Pollard was gonna be a big missing piece.

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Speaker 3: But now I feel like we didn't really know what

463
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Speaker 3: these guys were capable of. Now we're seeing it. Is

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Speaker 3: it because the old line is weak, you know, and

465
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Speaker 3: there's times where they're not able to get those lanes

466
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Speaker 3: open and there's they need help. So that's I don't know, Christie,

467
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Speaker 3: what you think. I think it's a combination of both,

468
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Speaker 3: is what I'm saying.

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Speaker 6: Absolutely, And the penalties too, because remember when you when

470
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Speaker 6: you fall behind, you know when it's you get a penalty,

471
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Speaker 6: and it's second, third and long, you know you're you're

472
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Speaker 6: having to pass the past. And the other thing is remember,

473
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Speaker 6: for example, you mentioned Rico scoring on the touchdown pass

474
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Speaker 6: the screen a lot of times. The way the NFL

475
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Speaker 6: isn't the way it used to be. It's not three

476
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Speaker 6: yards and a cloud of dust anymore. So the thing

477
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Speaker 6: is getting the ball out to your playmakers in space,

478
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Speaker 6: which is what they did with Tony Pollard and the like.

479
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Speaker 6: So think of some of these short deals screened a

480
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Speaker 6: little bit different. How it's set up with blocking, but

481
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Speaker 6: think of getting the ball out to the guys in space,

482
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Speaker 6: and if it's these short passes, think of it as

483
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Speaker 6: an extended handoff. So that's kind of I think that

484
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Speaker 6: you if you look at just the rushing numbers, I

485
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Speaker 6: think that that's too myopic. You have to look at

486
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Speaker 6: the running backs contributions holistically and as well as how

487
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Speaker 6: is the line blocking and what situations are you in

488
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Speaker 6: because you've been shooting yourself in the foot with penalties.

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Speaker 3: Right with you know, Tyler Guyton, I know, Oh sorry,

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Speaker 3: I don't want to cut you off. But with that,

491
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Speaker 3: with the holding penalties, you know, that's what we talked about.

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Speaker 3: You know, when you get all those penalties, that's going

493
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Speaker 3: to cause a big, big problem.

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Speaker 5: Is Tyler Geiton a concern for you guys moving forward?

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Speaker 5: As in he's partially a reason for a lot of

496
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Speaker 5: a chunk of these holding penalties.

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Speaker 6: Hey, he's a rookie pain, that's part of it. That's

498
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Speaker 6: part of it. He's also a very tall guy. So

499
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Speaker 6: when you have guys coming around the edge with good

500
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Speaker 6: bend and going low, you know, that's difficult for a

501
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Speaker 6: guy who's so tight and trying to replace Hyaran Smith.

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Speaker 3: That just doesn't happen a Hall of famer if you

503
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Speaker 3: trill of famer potentially, right, it's hard to say with

504
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Speaker 3: the rookie, you know. But they say he's still not

505
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Speaker 3: has his balance sometimes correct. They say he's kind of

506
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Speaker 3: his not using his hands and his feet like he should.

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Speaker 3: There's so many things like fundamentals and details Christy what

508
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Speaker 3: we always spoke about, So it's those details. But they

509
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Speaker 3: said he's been giving him a lot of self scouting

510
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Speaker 3: tapes for him to watch and to show, Okay, what

511
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Speaker 3: is your opponent seeing what can I work on? And

512
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Speaker 3: he said it's really really helped him. I'm sure you

513
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Speaker 3: both know about that. I guess that's really for Tyler

514
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Speaker 3: himself that it's helped him.

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Speaker 6: I hope so, okay, but but also also his attitude

516
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Speaker 6: being studious and get better. So all that being said,

517
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Speaker 6: we are so glad to have a talent like that

518
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Speaker 6: done with him.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this is just part of the process.

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Speaker 5: And really it's honestly on the part of the process.

521
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Speaker 5: With two starting rookie shots Alignment and Grant and Cooper's

522
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Speaker 5: been playing very well, not surprising it all to me

523
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Speaker 5: at all. But uh no, when you talk about Tyler Geiton,

524
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Speaker 5: though he does have another test in t J.

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Speaker 3: Watt.

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Speaker 5: Possibly he could be matched. That could be a matchup

527
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Speaker 5: that Terrence Steele could see more often on Sunday.

528
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Speaker 6: But there is a bit of a break though because

529
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Speaker 6: the guy who's opposite of t J. Watt, Alex high Smith.

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Speaker 3: He's actually hurt though. Yeah, so he's not playing this.

531
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Speaker 6: The previous game and Tomlin said today that they're moving

532
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Speaker 6: ahead as if he's not going to be able to

533
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Speaker 6: play this weekend as well. So you're getting a little

534
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Speaker 6: bit of a break in that you got to J. Watt,

535
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Speaker 6: but the booke nd going to be a backup there.

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Speaker 5: First thoughts on this Steelers defensive line, Christy, Well.

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Speaker 6: He's the he's elite. You know, the Cowboys are without

538
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Speaker 6: Michael Parsons, who I mean, So I would say t J. Watt,

539
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Speaker 6: Bosa and Micah are the three best pass rushers in

540
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Speaker 6: the league. But I also think the thing about what

541
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Speaker 6: is he's a catalytic player, and by that I mean

542
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Speaker 6: just just making plays right, you know, whether it's tackles

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Speaker 6: for loss or And by the way, I should mention

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Speaker 6: Max Crosby the four or the four best players Max

545
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Speaker 6: Crosby for the Raiders because I'd love to have him too,

546
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Speaker 6: but anyway, and then Hayward Bean Cam Hayward NFL Man

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Speaker 6: of the Year by the way, great.

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Speaker 3: Guy, but oh my god, you would never doesn't even

549
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Speaker 6: Yeah, so they this is a really great test for

551
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Speaker 6: Cowboys offensive line that I don't shall we say has

552
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Speaker 6: not hit their stride yet, has been hit with some

553
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Speaker 6: penalties and is going to be tested with. As we

554
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Speaker 6: said before, the two rookies in it and.

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Speaker 3: Coach Tom I'm sorry, no, go ahead, go ahead. So

556
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Speaker 3: Coach Tomin was talking about how the groin injury with

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Speaker 3: Alex high Smith Christy, so he said that Demarvin Leo

558
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559
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560
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Speaker 3: Someone can do a lot. But he's a very versatile player,

561
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Speaker 3: so he's obviously not high Smith, but there is someone

562
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Speaker 3: still going to take his place that they can still

563
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Speaker 6: Oh goodness, come out with them. That started the rodeo.

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Speaker 6: Do you have an American flag in one?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: I did the cowboy flag in the other. Because your

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Speaker 6: horse would know where to go, yeah, she would know.

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Speaker 3: But no rains at all and it would be fun. No,

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Speaker 5: Let's dive back into this matchup. What are some of

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Speaker 5: the biggest concerns if you had to choose one for

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I'd just like to see more consistent uh play

651
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 6: on the offensive line and get the run game going better,

652
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 6: more efficiently eliminating the penalties. I'd like to see Brandon

653
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 6: Cooks a little more. Sorry, I know we're to choose

654
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 6: one thing, but yeah, I just don't as we were

655
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 6: saying in the first segment, we still haven't really seen

656
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 6: this Cowboys offense yet operating on all cylinders, not even

657
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 6: really close to it. So more efficiency and they and

658
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 6: the other day it's not just converting on third downs,

659
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 6: but once you get down into the red that was

660
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 6: a that's been a weak point, was a point of

661
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 6: emphasis coming out of or going into Yeah.

662
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't want to reiterate with Christmas. So it's

663
00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 3: basically the same, you know, being able to establish a

664
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 3: run hopefully we I don't do hero ball, but having

665
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 3: someone that really breaks out, you know, in the run game,

666
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 3: and then be able to really open up that offense.

667
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 3: That's what I'm hoping.

668
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 5: Both of those things start with feel position. That's what

669
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 5: I'm going with. I want to see better starting field position,

670
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 5: so that starts obviously with Cavante Turpin or Janya Thomas,

671
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:21,959
Speaker 5: whoever the hell is back there returning, And because the

672
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 5: Cowboys haven't had a good starting field position, they've been

673
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 5: having to drive the full length of the field. And

674
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 5: I mean, I feel like if there's better starting field position,

675
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 5: we'll see a little bit of what this offense is

676
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 5: really offense really is. But when you talk about this

677
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 5: offensive line, Christy, it's not going to be easy just

678
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 5: because t J. Watt is a half sack away from

679
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 5: the NFL hundred sack club, So that's gonna be really

680
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 5: interesting to watch. But what else do you feel like

681
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 5: he does well aside from the sacks as being one

682
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 5: of the NFL's Yeah.

683
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 6: Just making those catalytic plays. And then they also, you know,

684
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 6: they added Patrick Queen at linebacker, and we mentioned Cam

685
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 6: Hayward and I mean he's you know, the people who

686
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 6: really follow football, he's very well known, but even in

687
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 6: Pittsburgh and with that kind of blue collar and defensive

688
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 6: line kind of thing, even he's overshadowed by t J. Watt.

689
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 6: And the other thing is, I'm so excited about going

690
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:24,399
Speaker 6: to Pittsburgh because we only get to go there once

691
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 6: eight years and there is a rivalry, fantastic atmosphere. I mean,

692
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 6: that is real football, it my opinion. You want real yeah,

693
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:39,799
Speaker 6: old school, real, great atmosphere. And I know it's not

694
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 6: three Rivers Stadium anymore. Heck, they don't even call it

695
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:47,880
Speaker 6: Hinsfield anymore. But you know that, to me, that's like

696
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 6: real football. And they still get those terrible towels going

697
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 6: and stuff like that, and they.

698
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 3: Know the game.

699
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 6: They do.

700
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:54,719
Speaker 3: Those fans actually really know the game, and they get

701
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:57,759
Speaker 3: kind of hostile, you know, and they're they're drinking. You

702
00:34:57,760 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 3: go back to Steel Curtain days and I don't know,

703
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 3: I like there. I like it. I just like that

704
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 3: football atmosphere. Yeah, it's going to be fun.

705
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:05,439
Speaker 6: And the other thing is we're going to get real

706
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:07,400
Speaker 6: lucky with the weather. It's going to be like in

707
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 6: the seventies and it's going to be very mild, just

708
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:13,360
Speaker 6: as it was in kick Bark last week. But but

709
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 6: it's a nine kickoff, so it might be more like

710
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 6: in the upper sixties by the time we go. But

711
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:21,319
Speaker 6: hinz heinsfield a censure field that it's it's right on

712
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 6: the lakes or three excuse me, not like that, the

713
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 6: three rivers coming together. That's the old name of Three

714
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 6: River Stadium, but.

715
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 3: I always it was always stadium.

716
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Speaker 6: But you would get like a wind is very difficult

717
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 6: place to kick there. And in fact, for many years

718
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:41,920
Speaker 6: they didn't have like a field goal of over fifty yards,

719
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 6: which was crazy because they've had some really great kickers

720
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 6: there for the Steelers. The point of this whole thing

721
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:53,879
Speaker 6: is usually kicking can be affected, uh there in Pittsburgh.

722
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,799
Speaker 6: But I think that with these male temperatures, that that

723
00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 6: bodes well for the Cowboys when you have a Brandon

724
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:02,279
Speaker 6: Aubrey and you have such a solid kicking game with it.

725
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:04,319
Speaker 3: And the only reason he missed that kick is because

726
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 3: I think, my personal opinion, I think that McCarthy should

727
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 3: have called the time out because he didn't he didn't

728
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 3: have his hips. He even said, my hips weren't placed.

729
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:14,400
Speaker 3: And so I'm not going to, you know, blame Aubrey

730
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:16,400
Speaker 3: on that. I don't know what y'all think, but that

731
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:19,239
Speaker 3: was I think he should have called time out, all right.

732
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 5: Last time the Cowboys made the trip to Pittsburgh, they

733
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:23,359
Speaker 5: actually won that match.

734
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:24,919
Speaker 3: That was.

735
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Speaker 6: Dak and ze Seek at the end with the long

736
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 6: Oh my gosh, no, that was so Dak and Zeke

737
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:36,720
Speaker 6: that rookie year, because you remember going into the season,

738
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:39,439
Speaker 6: Romo was out and this rooky fourth round kick and

739
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 6: Kellen Moore had been heard and DA's gone from a

740
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 6: fourth string quarterback at the start of camp and oh man,

741
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:49,319
Speaker 6: it's going well, they're undefeated. But it was that game

742
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:52,799
Speaker 6: in Pittsburgh that was sort of the.

743
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 3: Coming out pivotal.

744
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 6: That was like the emphatic of I remember thinking, we

745
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:01,720
Speaker 6: really do have something here, we really do have something

746
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:02,319
Speaker 6: going here.

747
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:03,800
Speaker 3: So here we go. Maybe we do it again.

748
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, this is the number one team in

749
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 5: the AFC North, the three and one. Granted I think

750
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 5: they still should have beat the Colts on Sunday, but

751
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:11,360
Speaker 5: that's a whole differ.

752
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 3: You know, another on the other side of the ball.

753
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 3: You know, we're doing a lot about Cowboys offense, but

754
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:18,760
Speaker 3: defense Another matchup I'm kind of concerned by. Is Kaylen

755
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 3: Carson George Pickens, if that ends up, that's that's I'm saying.

756
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:25,240
Speaker 3: If he does play, Yeah, and that's a concern.

757
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 6: You know, with Trayvon, they tried to have him follow

758
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 6: him the Elite Neighbors last week, and he did for

759
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:32,759
Speaker 6: a lot of it. But what they were doing with

760
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 6: Neighbors was starting him inside in the slot and then

761
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 6: motioning him out once Trayvon had committed to one side

762
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 6: or the you know, to the deal. So I wonder

763
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 6: it'll be interesting to see if maybe Trayvon travels again.

764
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 5: I'm interested to see how this secondary performs. Just if

765
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 5: Kayln Carson's a no go, and then you have. I mean, granted,

766
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 5: Amani are Amani done?

767
00:37:58,280 --> 00:37:58,839
Speaker 6: Well done?

768
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 5: Amani are? Oh my goodness, I had it right? Whoa

769
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:08,880
Speaker 5: game ceiling interception? I mean, I honestly, I think you

770
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:11,360
Speaker 5: should get the start over Andrew Booth. I think that

771
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:13,840
Speaker 5: would be a good look for him. What do you think.

772
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:15,719
Speaker 6: Christy wouldn't be surprised?

773
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 3: I think that if you?

774
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 6: If you, yeah, I know what the that question will

775
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 6: come up tomorrow morning and Mike McCarthy's press conference, and

776
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 6: we'll probably get the coach speak of it's an open competition.

777
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 6: But I don't know when you get mentioned at halftime

778
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 6: like Booth did, I don't know how well that bode's

779
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:34,279
Speaker 6: going into the next week.

780
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:36,280
Speaker 5: Who's your X factor in this game?

781
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 6: Oh man, I still got to study some more. I've

782
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:40,839
Speaker 6: only seen two of Pittsburgh's.

783
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:43,360
Speaker 5: Cowboys offense X factor Jake Ferguson.

784
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:45,799
Speaker 6: And here's why, because I'm going to go back to

785
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:48,720
Speaker 6: something like Tomlin said today. Remember what we said earlier

786
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 6: when he said, if you've got red paint, you paint

787
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 6: your barn red. So this was all in the opening

788
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:56,920
Speaker 6: statement for Mike Tomlin. So the reason I point that

789
00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 6: out is the question was not oh about Dallas and

790
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:06,240
Speaker 6: who concerned you? This is in his thing at the beginning,

791
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:09,800
Speaker 6: and he talks about DAK and CD, but then he says,

792
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 6: let's see. Really have gained an appreciation for the development

793
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:19,839
Speaker 6: of Ferguson at tight end. I remember watching him up

794
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:23,719
Speaker 6: close at Mobile That's the singable at Mobile Alabama a

795
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 6: couple of years ago when he came out and was

796
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:28,360
Speaker 6: really impressed with his skill set, had a chance to

797
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:31,319
Speaker 6: talk to his grandfather while I was watching practice, the

798
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 6: great Barry Alvarez, and so I enjoyed that. But man,

799
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:37,840
Speaker 6: Ferguson's play is impressive and how he's evolved as a

800
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 6: player is really impressive, and Dak's utilization of him within

801
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:43,840
Speaker 6: their offense is impressive. But they've got a lot of

802
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:47,440
Speaker 6: eligibles to manage. Man, you focus or get hyper focused

803
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:51,920
Speaker 6: on those two. Too much of a guy like Brandon

804
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:54,440
Speaker 6: Cooks can ruin your day, and so we better play

805
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:57,839
Speaker 6: a total game in terms of minimizing those guys. So

806
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:02,400
Speaker 6: it's just interesting that, Yeah, he mentioned Dack, he mentioned

807
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 6: c D and spent more time talking about the tide end.

808
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:08,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, who's your X factor? Offensively, I'd love I mean

809
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:11,359
Speaker 3: Prescott to Lamb. I'd love to see that really open

810
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 3: that up and be able to get that connection going

811
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:16,919
Speaker 3: and multiple touchdown. That's a you know, big, big take,

812
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 3: but that's what I'd love to see because with the Steelers,

813
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:21,279
Speaker 3: I don't think they're going to be able to run

814
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:23,320
Speaker 3: the ball much. They do, they're really good at stopping

815
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 3: the run. So and remember last week I talked about Mazie.

816
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 3: I think he was going to be the one that

817
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 3: the impact that he was the best four quarters I've

818
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 3: seen him play it. I thought he played pretty well,

819
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:34,400
Speaker 3: you know, considering I thought he needed to be that

820
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 3: And aren't you happy with the way he.

821
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:40,719
Speaker 6: Yeah, by far his best game and Pittsburgh did Yeah

822
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:44,440
Speaker 6: there last game they I mean, Nag's he's a great

823
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:47,279
Speaker 6: you know, he's very good running back. But man, they

824
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:49,840
Speaker 6: were struggling with their run as well. Now, but the

825
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:52,880
Speaker 6: thing is justin fields is one of these mobile quarterbacks

826
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 6: running getting him out he can, so some of their

827
00:40:57,160 --> 00:41:00,719
Speaker 6: rushing yards are you know, were done by the quarterback

828
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 6: kind of like Deshaun Watson, and.

829
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 3: He did everything. If you look at the stats with

830
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 3: the Colts, I mean he's look at it, it's all

831
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 3: justin fields.

832
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:09,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, there was something I saw a by Justin Fields

833
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 5: though he's thrown fifty three point three percent of his

834
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:13,880
Speaker 5: passes outside of the numbers. No, that was not it.

835
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 5: It was this one, this one, this one where it

836
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:17,920
Speaker 5: was it's about play action. Boom boom, boom boom. Hold on,

837
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:21,280
Speaker 5: where did it go? I had it, y'all?

838
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 3: Sorry, I'll here we go.

839
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:25,399
Speaker 5: The Steerley's utilized play action at the second highest rate

840
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 5: in the NFL season, that's thirty seven percent, yet have

841
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 5: the second lowest yards per attempt on play action passes.

842
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 6: Yeah, well, I think if they you know, the one

843
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:38,239
Speaker 6: thing you don't want to do is let them get

844
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 6: their run game going, sure, because if they get that

845
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 6: run game going, it makes the play action pass more effective.

846
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:46,799
Speaker 6: And so, like I said, Naji Harris that the one

847
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 6: thing is they also have Corderyl Patterson, who has given

848
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 6: the Cowboys fits in other years like whether especially when

849
00:41:56,200 --> 00:42:00,240
Speaker 6: he was with Minnesota. Uh, he's questionable with an injury.

850
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:02,920
Speaker 6: He got dinged outright the last game, So not sure

851
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:05,960
Speaker 6: if he's going to be available. He you know, if

852
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:08,439
Speaker 6: he's able to practice tomorrow. Wouldn't be surprised if he's

853
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 6: listed as limited. But he's one of these Swiss Army

854
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 6: knife kind of guys who's an excellent return man, can

855
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 6: catch the ball but run out of the backfield as well.

856
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 6: So if he's not able to play, that's gonna hurt

857
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 6: their run game and hurt their offense.

858
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 5: And I know that for their offensive line, they have

859
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 5: two guys they have they battle with injuries as well.

860
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 5: To have two guys on their O line that have

861
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 5: started all four games, of course due to injury. So

862
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 5: I think this is an opportunity for this defensive line.

863
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:41,800
Speaker 5: Granted we're dealing with our injuries as well, but I

864
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 5: think it's a good opportunity for you know, new pass

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Speaker 5: rushers to emerge. Maybe Marshaw Neeland, I don't know, maybe

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Speaker 5: a Chauncey Goldstin, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Let's throw that out. Their time to shine right now.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, for sure, and Mozzie Smith to continue to keep

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Speaker 5: it up he's doing.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, there's a chance that they may be getting say

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Speaker 6: Amalo back, one of their veteran guards. He had missed

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Speaker 6: a couple of games. If they get him back, that's

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Speaker 6: really gonna help because they've been going with some young

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00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 6: backups at Gardenerate. Then they have the rookie center, and then,

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Speaker 6: as we were talking about yesterday, their rookie first round

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00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:16,759
Speaker 6: pick tackle out for the year with a dislocated knee cap.

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Speaker 6: So yeah, the as Cowboys Nation laments all the injuries

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Speaker 6: to the Cowboys defensive line into the secondary. The Pittsburgh

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00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:31,359
Speaker 6: fans don't want to hear it because they've been hit

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Speaker 6: hard in their offensive line.

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Speaker 3: Real fast.

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Speaker 5: Who was the biggest tests ahead of them on Sunday,

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Speaker 5: Tyler Cowboy's offense.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, I think yeah, yeah, sorry Tyler, but.

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Speaker 5: Ste because I truly feel like they're going to match

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00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 5: up t J. Watt with steel Yeah, that's as well.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, definitely gonna be a lot of fun to watch.

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Speaker 5: We're going to be talking about the Cowboys defense Steelers

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00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 5: offense on a win, so make sure to tune in

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Speaker 5: with this.

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Speaker 3: So we have Christy's going to talk about the helmet.

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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, you know what, we can save it for

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Speaker 6: Friday if you want, no.

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Speaker 3: Because I'm not on Friday.

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Speaker 6: Oh go ahead, go ahead, all right, I'll do a

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Speaker 6: fast version. Okay. Fun fact, so the Pittsburgh Steelers are

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Speaker 6: the only team that have a logo on just one

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00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 6: side of their helmet, so to black helmet with the

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Speaker 6: gold stripe down the middle, and then the Steeler's logo.

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Speaker 6: It's just on one side.

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Speaker 3: Well, what's up with that.

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Speaker 6: Well, they used to have gold helmets, and they used

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00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 6: to have the player's number on the helmet. But in

904
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Speaker 6: nineteen sixty two, the owner's son, So Rooney's son Dan,

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Speaker 6: went to the equipment manager with this new logo and

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00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:48,600
Speaker 6: asked him to put it on the right side of

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Speaker 6: the helmet, which the equipment manager, Jack Hart, did, but

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Speaker 6: he only put it on the right side. He wasn't

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Speaker 6: sure whether to put whether the Rooney's wanted it on

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Speaker 6: both sides or not, so they just did the one side. Well,

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Speaker 6: the Steelers weren't really very good back then, okay, and

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Speaker 6: they put it on just the one side and they

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Speaker 6: won the game. Good luck, term had a good luck.

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Speaker 6: So let's just leave it. Let's just leave it. Let's

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Speaker 6: just leave it. Nineteen sixty two they actually made the playoffs,

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Speaker 6: so they never they never bothered to put a second

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Speaker 6: logo on the other side. So, whether you wanted to

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Speaker 6: say superstition or not, but it's just that the owner's son,

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Speaker 6: Dan Rooney, who you know, ended up being noted for

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Speaker 6: so so long and later obviously Ambassador to Ireland and

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Speaker 6: everything else, the great Rooney family. Yeah, it just wasn't

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Speaker 6: clear to put it on one side or two sides,

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Speaker 6: so that Jackhart just put it on one side and

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Speaker 6: it stayed that way since nineteen.

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Speaker 3: I liked this story just because when I was a

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Speaker 3: little giry, Yes, my daddy, I'm like, why, why, what's

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Speaker 3: going on? And he told me that story.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so.

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Speaker 2: I did.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, And then there's there's there's there's little there's little

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Speaker 6: diamonds on the helmet there the little so it says Steelers.

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Speaker 6: That used to just say steel and then after a

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Speaker 6: couple of years they added Steeler the E R s.

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Speaker 6: But so that those little like three diamond looking things,

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Speaker 6: it's uh uh something the Steelers petition the American Iron

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Speaker 6: and Steel Institute to use that logo, and so the

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Speaker 6: colors have a certain meaning and it's the three colors

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Speaker 6: represent what you used to make iron because steelers, steel

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Speaker 6: workers ride all the steel mills in Pittsburgh. So there's

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Speaker 6: they're good fans into the community, great great fan base.

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Speaker 5: Some pretty cool things. But hopefully the cowboys, but we're

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Speaker 5: still going to get the w They're going to get

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Speaker 5: the w in handle business all right. We'll be back

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Speaker 5: here tomorrow in the SWBC studio at four o'clock. Cowboys Nation,

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Speaker 5: make sure to tune in here on Girls Talk. Boys

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Speaker 5: Talk will be back tomorrow.

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