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Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where we hope one day to

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Speaker 1: be guests on the Saint Brown Brothers podcast. I'm Greg

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Speaker 1: Rosenthal here in the Chris Westling podcast studio with my

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Speaker 1: friends Patrick Clayband and Jordan rod Rieg to preview the

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Speaker 1: NFC games. And yes, this is the first week we're

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Speaker 1: I mean, I hope it's not that transformative of a

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Speaker 1: moment for but yes, we appreciate everyone also checking us

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Speaker 1: out on YouTube and doing the YouTube lives on Monday night,

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Speaker 1: and if you're watching us too on the NFL channel,

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Speaker 1: love you and love this match up here in this

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Speaker 1: week in particular, I mentioned the Saint Brown Brothers podcast well,

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Speaker 1: we hear from the brothers in just the second. But

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Speaker 1: isn't it delicious that the Bears and the lines are

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Speaker 1: like playing right now when they're the most ornery.

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Speaker 2: Right now at the Lions, fresh off of loss, taking

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Speaker 2: on their former offensive coordinator and the head coach of

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Speaker 2: the Chicago Bears. It is Bears at the Lions. We're

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Speaker 2: giving up five and a half points. The over under

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Speaker 2: is forty seven and a half. Kenny Albert, Jonathan Vilma,

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Speaker 2: Megan o'livey on the call. As you mentioned it, Grek,

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Speaker 2: we talked about the impending spiciness between Dan Campbell and

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Speaker 2: his former offensive coordinator.

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Speaker 3: Here it is. It's a chance for everything to be

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Speaker 3: out in the open.

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Speaker 1: I love it. It was part of my off season,

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Speaker 1: you know, monitoring of the game. And we we mentioned

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Speaker 1: how this is a great week of revenge games. And

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Speaker 1: I don't know if like they're all friends, it's all professional,

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Speaker 1: but I think both sides, especially in Detroit, really want

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Speaker 1: to win this game. It'll be interesting to hear how

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Speaker 1: Ben Johnson is received. We know how Amon Ra wants

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Speaker 1: him to be received.

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Speaker 4: We two gonna be so crazy. I promise you it's

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Speaker 4: gonna be so electric. But as soon as Ben walks

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Speaker 4: in there, we're booing him. I don't give all booing him.

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Speaker 1: Like, yeah, he said it's gonna be lit. I'm not

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Speaker 1: gonna lie. I'm here for it for sure.

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Speaker 4: I just want to be a fly on the wall

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Speaker 4: in his meeting room. Bro, how is he as a

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Speaker 4: head coach?

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Speaker 1: Like?

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Speaker 4: Then?

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Speaker 3: That is not you?

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Speaker 4: Dog like?

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Speaker 5: I know you.

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Speaker 4: I'm acting like this, man, Bro, I want to be

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Speaker 4: a fly on the wall for one meeting, just one.

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Speaker 1: Nah, Bro, You've done with Ben?

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Speaker 4: Now, Bro, it's all turn.

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Speaker 3: Bro, it's your turn yet?

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Speaker 1: WHOA?

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Speaker 5: I love that. I love that so much because you

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Speaker 5: could tell he's he's having fun with it. You could tell,

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Speaker 5: you know, obviously they did some great things together. But

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Speaker 5: you kind of heard this start to wear on, including

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Speaker 5: from a Monra who's asked about it a couple of

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Speaker 5: times in training camp. You could hear this, like, well,

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Speaker 5: what about losing Ben Johnson? Question get asked over and

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Speaker 1: And to be fair, I listened to a lot of

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Speaker 1: the podcasts and he said a lot of really complimentary

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Speaker 1: things and he couldn't be more grateful for the creativity

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Speaker 1: and the way that Ben Johnson helped him out. And

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Speaker 1: the other voice that you heard, I should have pointed

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Speaker 1: out was Roma Doonday from the Bear. So it's all

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Speaker 1: in good fun. And yet, you know, it is that

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Speaker 1: tendency thing, you know back when Belichick was playing Manginie

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Speaker 1: you try to stop what they're going to do because

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Speaker 1: going to do something different. There is something a little extra,

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Speaker 1: And the fact they're both coming off really disappointing week

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Speaker 5: If I'm I just try to do what the heck

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Speaker 5: I'm supposed to do with what the plan is, versus

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Speaker 5: getting so far sidetracked off the plan, especially on offense.

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Speaker 5: I mean this game. They started so well last week

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Speaker 5: everything just started deteriorating, especially as the pressure ramped up.

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Speaker 5: Brian Flores was only rushing for at first, and he

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Speaker 5: he was with the pressure. He started blitzing more and

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Speaker 5: that that really started to hassle the game plan, to

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Speaker 5: when that started happening, which is a good thing. He

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Speaker 5: can make miracles happen, but sometimes the receivers weren't on

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Speaker 5: the same page. I'm thinking of that the Dj Moore

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Speaker 5: play where Ryan Fitzpatrick was on social media earlier saying

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Speaker 5: And so I'm like, I'll take a full game of

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Speaker 5: everybody doing what they're supposed to be doing, less so

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Speaker 5: trying to be you know, moves and counter moves to

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Speaker 2: Well, we did get to see a glimpse of when

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Speaker 2: everything's working as the way it should on the fake

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Speaker 2: toss play in the red zone thrown in the end

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Speaker 2: zone successful, the exact same play that Ben Johnson called

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Speaker 2: with Jared Goff, and they executed it. It looked a

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Speaker 2: little different with Caleb running than with Jared Goff. But

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Speaker 2: you see the potential there, and combine that with the

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Speaker 2: off schedule throws that Caleb made early where he's.

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Speaker 5: That one to rome A Dunsay, the.

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Speaker 2: One where there's an easy win, a clear win off

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Speaker 2: and Caleb puts him in the ground with a move

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Speaker 2: and then floats one the DeAndre Swift. Well, you see

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Speaker 2: all the potential there. Just got to add those things

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Speaker 1: In the tape heads and I went back and I

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Speaker 1: did want to see some of his throws were really

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Speaker 1: hard on Caleb Williams, But there's a lot of disagreement.

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Speaker 1: Like Kurt Warner watching thought he he ultimately had a

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Speaker 1: and it's a little like Josh Allen early in his career.

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Speaker 1: The bad plays are really bad, like they're extra bad

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Speaker 1: where he gets really panicky, maybe when there's no one

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Speaker 1: think it's consistent. He made so many good plays and

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Speaker 1: I think he's getting used to it. But you do

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Speaker 1: see him fritz out a little bit. It was just

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Speaker 1: one game and it was against the Vikings. This is

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Speaker 1: going to be a much easier matchup against the Lions,

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Speaker 1: whose pass rush was if not the worst in the

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Speaker 5: I would say yes and no, because also what the

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Speaker 5: played against Green Bay, which you're going to man up

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 5: They use man coverage on about fifty percent of their coverages,

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Speaker 5: so they're going to mix it up a little bit,

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Speaker 5: but they will play some man a significant portion of that,

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Speaker 5: and they're going to try to bump these receivers off

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Speaker 5: their timing. The one thing that Ben Johnson is probably

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Speaker 5: going back into the meeting rooms and doing is saying,

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Speaker 5: we're staying on schedule, We're staying efficient. We're going to

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Speaker 5: build in these plays that keep the quarterback on schedule

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Speaker 5: so you don't have to put them in these high

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Speaker 5: stress situations where he's in an impossible down in distance

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Speaker 5: and our run game is not working and they weren't

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Speaker 5: running the ball enough and then all of a sudden,

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Speaker 5: you know, he is fritzing out, like you said, because

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Speaker 5: and then he's also seeing stuff that's confusing, that would

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Speaker 5: be confusing to any quarterback, especially in a high stress situation.

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Speaker 5: And so I think that's what they're trying to do.

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Speaker 5: But because the Lions are going to try to mix

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Speaker 5: going to try to especially disrupt the timing. And it's

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Speaker 5: on tape what happens when you disrupt the timing of

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Speaker 5: what this Ben Johnson Caleb Williams offense is.

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Speaker 2: And also on tape was the way Dennis Allen's defense,

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Speaker 2: especially in the second half and the Jordan Mason led

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Speaker 2: ground game of the Vikings really kind of pulled things

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Speaker 2: away versus the first week for the Detroit Lions, We're

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Speaker 2: used to seeing go up and down the field with

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Speaker 3: I want to see how things look here in week two.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the the denisance, you know, it was stalled a

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Speaker 1: little bit there in the fourth quarter. Shot out shout

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Speaker 1: out to the Blue Sky user who who responded to

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Speaker 1: one of my tweets about like the Allen Sanz and

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Speaker 1: be like, bro, it's right there. It's clearly Thenisance is amazing.

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Speaker 1: I'm worried about the Lions. It was just one week

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Speaker 1: and that's why this game is is so big, So

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Speaker 1: I kind of don't care what the Lions are doing schematically.

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Speaker 1: If they are that bad rushing the passer, it's a problem.

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Speaker 1: They had the second lowest pressure rate with a four

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Speaker 1: equation where you're sending a ton of pressure and you

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Speaker 1: still weren't getting there. I know it was a green

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Speaker 1: you're talking about problems on both lines, that's not the

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Speaker 1: Lions I love, and I want to see them rebound.

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Speaker 5: What I think was interesting about what the denissance.

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Speaker 1: We're getting punchy. We're just the start of this this

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Speaker 1: whole two show thing, and we're getting punchy.

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Speaker 5: We're getting punchy any of those. The thing that I

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Speaker 5: thought was really fascinating about the quote unquote Denissance too,

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Speaker 5: and what I conpect to see more of from this

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Speaker 5: Bears defense, especially to put some pressure on that front,

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Speaker 5: is just the way that they they were so aggressive,

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Speaker 5: and they were so you know, even Mantes Sweat is

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Speaker 5: out there making plays, right, So it's and he's been

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Speaker 5: hit or miss. I mean, when he's been good, he's

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Speaker 5: been really really good. But when he's not been good,

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Speaker 5: he's been like, hey, is he going to stay on

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Speaker 5: the team. And so I do think that maximizing and

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Speaker 5: picking your spots and when to truly attack the quarterback

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Speaker 5: is an addition that they have with Dennis Allen. You

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Speaker 5: saw that when they brought that blitz at the exact

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Speaker 5: right time to confuse JJ McCarthy and and to pressure

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Speaker 5: and to hassle him at the exact right time at

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Speaker 5: that moment, it could have swung. It could have been

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Speaker 5: ultimately the final swing in the game. It wasn't, as

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Speaker 5: we know, but it could have been. And I think

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Speaker 1: It was, and he can't wear that gray undershirt Caleb Williams. Again.

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Speaker 2: Are four and a half point favorites against Atlanta. That

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Speaker 2: Night Football, Jordan, Mike Rico, Chris Collinsworth and Melissa Stark.

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Speaker 5: The NFL and one of the more difficult places to

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Speaker 1: If you were both of you were trying to mess

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Speaker 1: just that You're right you you would you love them

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Speaker 1: Them again, and I wouldn't take them this week. I

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Speaker 5: For them to talk, what's kind of interesting. There's so

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Speaker 5: much crossover between these two coaching staffs. This is Raheem

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Speaker 5: cross training staffs, coaching Trees whatever that would be called

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Speaker 3: Doctor Trees is a shop.

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Speaker 5: Overall, it's a new show. It's a new show.

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Speaker 1: That would be a good I mean it's probably happened,

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Speaker 5: Yea, oh my god, I forgot what I was saying.

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Speaker 1: Don't worry about it.

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Speaker 3: Plus see TV Thursday next week.

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Speaker 1: You can come up with you know, four different shows

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Speaker 1: interesting game. This one. I'm shocked. I guess I shouldn't

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Speaker 5: his ethos, It's his entire thing. He can do any

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Speaker 2: Because if we're talking about young quarterbacks, and all due

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Speaker 1: He's not a normal second year quarterback with six starts,

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Speaker 1: It's not fair, done fair.

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Speaker 5: We talked about a dabble, a smattering of revenge games.

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Speaker 5: Tried to, Dorothy, you tried, you took that first.

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Speaker 1: with pressure and ultimately with the guys around him, like

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Speaker 1: did the most in a game that I thought the

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Speaker 1: Seahawks defense played well. Now he's hurt and you lose

439
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Speaker 1: a lot, and it will really hurt this team long term.

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Speaker 1: But if he's going to miss games at New Orleans,

441
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Speaker 1: is not a bad one to miss. You have Jacksonville

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Speaker 1: and Arizona coming up at home. We'll see how long

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Speaker 1: it takes. And I'm curious. I'm curious to see mac

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Speaker 1: Jones in the offense that Kyle Shanahan wanted to draft

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Speaker 1: him in. According to reports, you know, back in the

446
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Speaker 1: Tray Lance draft that John Lynch went over the top,

447
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Speaker 1: you know, and got his guy, Trey Lance. Neither one

448
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Speaker 1: of them long term really worked out. But man, mac

449
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Speaker 1: Jones was slanging it in the preseason. Sometimes watching those

450
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Speaker 1: preseason games pays off, and it's for a moment like this,

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Speaker 1: so that I can tell you America that Mac Jones

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Speaker 1: was slanging it. Uh.

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Speaker 5: If I'm recalling some of the cyclical nature of the

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Speaker 5: sport correctly, there was once a time in San Francisco,

455
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Speaker 5: where a sort of unheralded quarterback signed a massive contract,

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Speaker 5: then got injured, then Brock Purdy took his job.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 5: Now Brock Purdy is injured, we're not sure if we're

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Speaker 5: going to see him when he's gonna play. And Mac

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Speaker 5: Jones has been waiting in the wings, uh for this

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Speaker 5: exact moment to take basically everything he can get to

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Speaker 5: show he still deserves a starting job. But no, no,

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Speaker 5: George Kittle, Juwan Jennings is banged up. Kendrick Bourne is

464
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Speaker 5: there now, Greg, You've been sort of calling this out

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Speaker 5: for a while that Kendrick Bourne will at some point

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Speaker 5: arrive in s Francisco. I think he's gonna play.

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Speaker 2: He took a visit and they a number in front

468
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Speaker 2: of him and Kendrick said, no, no, you're gonna need me.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna leave.

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Speaker 2: I love vent Porn was right because the press did

471
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Speaker 2: go up, the need went up as well.

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Speaker 1: And to be clear, Party's not playing in this game.

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Speaker 1: Shanahan said it could be a multi week injury. And

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Speaker 1: since we started recording, literally the forty nine ers line

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Speaker 1: has gone from six and a half to two and

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Speaker 1: a half. So it is viewed more as a toss up. Ultimately,

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Speaker 1: the Saints need to show some of the stuff they

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Speaker 1: showed last week. Number one. To Mario Davis and Cameron Jordan,

479
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Speaker 1: I mean still got it. Our friend Ryan you know

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Speaker 1: dat boy Wolf on Twitter from the Saints Block Party podcast,

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Speaker 1: he suggested a segment for NFL Daily called the Unks

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Speaker 1: of the Week. I was like, I don't know if

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Speaker 1: I'm the man to really pull off that segment, but

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Speaker 1: if we had some Cameron Jordan and to Mario Davis,

485
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Speaker 1: like longtime veterans seventeen years deep for to Mario Davis

486
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Speaker 1: and Cam Jordan is literally the oldest player to ever

487
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Speaker 1: have a sack for the New Orleans Saints, they would

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Speaker 1: be the Unks of the Week.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, just in terms of hilling, because it's a it's

490
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Speaker 2: a violent game to fill gaps as a run defender

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Speaker 2: and for tomorrow Davis to still be doing it at

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Speaker 2: this level on a defense that it has had some

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Speaker 2: problems and a lot of teams have had rushing success

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Speaker 2: on Otrey Benson averaged almost nine yards of carry against

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Speaker 2: the Saints. That being said, uh, still played pretty well

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Speaker 2: and they were in that game. They were in the game,

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Speaker 2: and the Ratman made some throat the snake emojis are

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Speaker 2: flying up on the top.

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Speaker 1: I think he looked good. I think he looked Spencer

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Speaker 1: Rattler better than a week ago. I don't want to

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Speaker 1: move past like the big story here though. Do you

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Speaker 1: think I pulled off the segment? I tried, Ryan, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: if you're out there, I tried.

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Speaker 2: It's it's I don't know where the where you feel

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Speaker 2: like the laps would be great?

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Speaker 1: No, it's it's cannon. It's happening. You know who wouldn't

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Speaker 1: have been would be Trent Williams. I was shocked watching

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Speaker 1: that game last week. It might have been the worst

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Speaker 1: game of it that disturbed you did leave the game

510
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Speaker 1: at one point. He also didn't you know, practice or

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Speaker 1: play that much in the preseason. And then Matt Barrows

512
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Speaker 1: of The Athletic responded to my tweet because I was

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Speaker 1: just watching it being like, wow, this, I just can't

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Speaker 1: remember Trent Williams ever looking human, and he noted that

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Speaker 1: Trent Williams gave up more pressures in that game than

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Speaker 1: any game in seven or eight I think it was

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Speaker 1: eight years. Yeah, So that that's something to watch because

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Speaker 1: I would assume he's going to work his way into shape.

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Speaker 1: But if he's not Trent Williams, they are a different team.

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Speaker 5: Obviously, opponent factors in. But what if I told you

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Speaker 5: guys that the Robert Sala defense by the way, Brandon

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Speaker 5: Staley revenge game coming up now that we're keeping track

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Speaker 5: of revenges and whatnot, although I guess it doesn't really

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Speaker 5: count because he was like an assistant. But anyway, what

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Speaker 5: if I told you guys that the Robert Sala defense

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Speaker 5: the Sance. The Sala Sance finished third behind the Colts

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Speaker 5: and the Broncos in Week one in passing defense EPA

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Speaker 5: per play. What if I told what's your reaction to that? Greg?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they had Donold looking looking kind of crazy out there.

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Speaker 1: He only threw the ball to one player. Literally, I've

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Speaker 1: never seen that ninety percent of the air yards. Yes,

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Speaker 1: from Darnold last week to where it said Jackson Smith

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Speaker 1: and Jog. But I think it's a really positive sign.

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Speaker 1: That was a better secondary to performance than they had

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Speaker 1: almost all the last year.

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Speaker 5: And I'll say jokes aside, they did look way better.

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Speaker 5: They looked more active. Robert Saal is actually blitzing so

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Speaker 5: far at about a ten percent more frequency than he

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Speaker 5: ever has before, which is good because we've been talking

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Speaker 5: about this all off season that he has to evolve

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Speaker 5: a little bit where he went from not really you know,

542
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Speaker 5: necessarily liking to blitz so much, but now he has

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Speaker 5: to because he's not exactly getting exactly what he needs

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Speaker 5: from even the odd fronts that he likes to run sometimes,

545
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Speaker 5: so he's blitzing the linebackers more, sometimes the DB's but

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Speaker 5: mostly like de Winter was the guy that he's blitzing

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Speaker 5: a lot. The other part of this is they do

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Speaker 5: have some areas of I don't want to say weakness

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Speaker 5: because he's a young player. Was his first game, but

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Speaker 5: Seattle tried the plan where they're like, let's throw it

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Speaker 5: at upton Stout and see what happens. And he plays

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Speaker 5: in the slot. And the Saints have three receivers who

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Speaker 5: are really good who can all play in the slot.

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Speaker 5: I mean two receivers who are really good, one who's

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Speaker 5: a veteran receiver.

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Speaker 1: One that I have a note here that they need

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Speaker 1: to take him out of the lineup.

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Speaker 5: And that's bred I'm gonna say. I saw your face

559
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Speaker 5: and I was like, okay, let me take that back.

560
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Speaker 5: Two receivers really good, not the one who needs.

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Speaker 1: A veteran like resting. Greg reaction face is not good.

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Speaker 1: And I don't know, but everyone I needed that. Everyone

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Speaker 1: told me about it. It just happened to be written down.

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Speaker 1: It's like they need more. Remember the preseason, it was

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Speaker 1: a lot of fun. Mason Tipton, just let's get some

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Speaker 1: speed in there. Devon Valley we traded, They traded for him.

567
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Speaker 1: I went, we like, let's let's get him in there.

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Speaker 1: Brandon Cooks at this point, you can't play him just

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Speaker 1: because of the contract. Maybe it was the scheme though,

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Speaker 1: because I didn't see a lave and Shaheed getting much

571
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Speaker 1: room either. It was a great job by Arizona. They

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Speaker 1: were so pass heavy the Saints, even though Alvin Kamara

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Speaker 1: looked good and they ran it.

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Speaker 5: They want to throw the ball so bad.

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Speaker 1: And they played so sure. They were on the ball

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Speaker 1: and they were playing hurry up. And Ratler looks good there.

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Speaker 1: I do think you saw some growth from Rattler one

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Speaker 1: year one to year two. That makes me more excited

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Speaker 1: about watching the scene. Just he looked like an NFL

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Speaker 1: quarterback and he's going up against the guy in mac

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Speaker 1: Jones who's had a lot of struggles when he's played

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Speaker 1: over the last what three or four years. There was

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Speaker 1: one time, though I've said this before, that he was

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Speaker 1: in the Rookie of the Year race with future Hall

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Speaker 1: of Famer Jamar Chase.

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Speaker 5: Who do we think pick pick someone? Who do we

587
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Speaker 5: think on the Saint Smack Jones is going to try.

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Speaker 3: To fight well everybody by anybody can?

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Speaker 5: I will say too to your point on Tomorio Davis earlier, Greg,

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Speaker 5: we saw him having the time of his life at

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Speaker 5: practice when we were out there earlier this summer. So

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Speaker 5: I'm stoked for him. It's translating into the season.

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Speaker 1: It's one of those things that I just hope it

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Speaker 1: can keep going because I thought he did start to

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Speaker 1: look like he was slowing down a little bit. Cam Jordan,

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Speaker 1: you know, just talked about he wanted to be more

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Speaker 1: productive than he was a year ago. And they're after

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Speaker 1: a great start, and your d winsor shoutout is a

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Speaker 1: great one because he looked awesome. And I like it

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Speaker 1: when you hear the hype pieces from the entire offseason

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Speaker 1: and d Winters has been the subject of him, like,

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Speaker 1: this guy looks different this year than he's ever looked

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Speaker 1: at the back and you can kind of see it,

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Speaker 1: and he's probably a perfect fit for that offense. Let's

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Speaker 1: take a break and we will be wrapping up the

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Speaker 1: NFC after the break, including the matchup that all the

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Speaker 1: networks fight over every year. Back on NFL Daily Revenge Week.

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Speaker 1: The biggest revenge game of the week is actually going

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Speaker 1: to be played two lane Darien Mensa, their star freshman

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Speaker 1: quarterback who left the two lane Green Wave to go

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Speaker 1: to Duke, matching up against each other on Saturday. That's

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Speaker 1: what I will be watching and Yulman Stadium. They might

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Speaker 1: be a top twenty five team if they could win

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Speaker 1: this game. But this kid, Mensa, we will be talking

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Speaker 1: about him in the path to the draft in about

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Speaker 1: a year or two, depending on how long he stays here,

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Speaker 1: because he is awesome. But now playing for Duke, let's talk.

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Speaker 3: I'll go ahead, yeah, and then you will be a

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Speaker 3: Mensa member. Not as much right now while he's playing.

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Speaker 1: But I love him though. But the puns, we've now

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Speaker 1: broken the record there. It is ranking newis Congratulations and let's.

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Speaker 2: Get to our next game, the New York Giants, and

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Speaker 2: they're a quarterback for now. Russell Wilson taking on the

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Speaker 2: Dallas Cowboys, who are six point favorites at home the

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Speaker 2: over under his forty four and a half. Joe Davis,

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Speaker 2: g reg and Pam Oliver are on the call as Jordan.

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Speaker 2: We saw a lot of frustration from the Giants offense.

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Speaker 2: What are you looking forward to seeing against the Cowboys

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Speaker 2: from them this time?

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Speaker 5: Frustration and not much else. I mean, my goodness. They

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Speaker 5: could not move the ball on the ground, They could

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Speaker 5: not move the ball in the air. This was also

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Speaker 5: a huge factor of Andrew Thomas not being there. They're

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Speaker 5: left tackle who is still not practicing as of our

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Speaker 5: taping on Wednesday, but Brian Dable expects him back later

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Speaker 5: this week. He's actually surprisingly honest with reporters earlier on

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Speaker 5: Wednesday morning when they asked him directly about whether Andrew

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Speaker 5: Thomas was planning to be back at all. Having him

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Speaker 5: back is significant. It's also probably part of the reason

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Speaker 5: if he does come back, probably part of the reason

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Speaker 5: why Russell Wilson is still starting this week, because they

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Speaker 5: have to see what it looks like when Andrew Thomas

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Speaker 5: is on the field with this offensive light, and he

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Speaker 5: creates such a statistical differentiation that like you actually have

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Speaker 5: to see if you've even got anything with Wilson before

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Speaker 5: you make the move to Jackson Dart, which I still

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Speaker 5: think is going to happen soon.

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Speaker 1: Love that theory, and part of it can be that

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Speaker 1: you also don't want to start Jackson Dart without Andrew

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Speaker 1: Thomas right if he's not available, because they say it's

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Speaker 1: part of his rehab plan to miss Wednesday and practice

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Speaker 1: Thursday or Friday. But nobody really knows what's gonna happen here.

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Speaker 1: The biggest upset of the week would not be the

654
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Speaker 1: Giants winning this game. It's kind of shocking though that

655
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Speaker 1: they're six point underdogs. That's given a lot of credit

656
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Speaker 1: to the Cowboys coming off of a losing effort. The

657
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:58,160
Speaker 1: biggest shock is that this is a one pm game.

658
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Speaker 1: I don't think in my time covering the NFL that

659
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 1: this has ever been a one o'clock game because end

660
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 1: of the time, it's usually as I said, sorry, Patrick,

661
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 1: it's not Panthers Cardinals that the network's fight over all,

662
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:12,720
Speaker 1: it's this one. Because you look at like the highest

663
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Speaker 1: rated games of all time in the NFL, and half

664
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Speaker 1: of them are like Giants Cowboys games on Sunday Night Football,

665
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 1: they always were shoving it down our throat. Now they're

666
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:25,800
Speaker 1: still giving us the Joe Davis greg Olsen treatment my

667
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 1: number one booth. Yeah, not just in Fox, but in America,

668
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 1: Joe Davis, I mean killing it with the Dodgers and

669
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 1: in football. And there's no one better than grag By

670
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 1: this thing being at one o'clock, how the Mighty have fallen?

671
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Speaker 5: And the legend Pam Oliver on the ground as well.

672
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 5: And I think that this is interesting because I kind

673
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 5: of think we know what Dallas is going to be

674
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Speaker 5: all year. Like I'm pretty sure they're just going to

675
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 5: be this right. They're going to be able to put

676
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Speaker 5: up points. They have good matchups, they have two receivers,

677
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 5: they can get the ball to CD Lamb minus the

678
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 5: Drops really had to if you take away the Drops

679
00:31:57,120 --> 00:32:00,480
Speaker 5: had a really good game. Dak Prescott looked incredible. You know,

680
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Speaker 5: I don't know how effective they're going to be running

681
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 5: the ball at any point.

682
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 1: That's what I would like to ask you both, when

683
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 1: you say you think we know what we're going.

684
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 5: To be, why didn't say we you say that, like, uh,

685
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 5: I thought you did say we.

686
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 1: You said we know what they're going to be this year,

687
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Speaker 1: And I guess I'm I'm positing after that Week one performance,

688
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 1: but I'm doing it in a question like how high

689
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 1: do you think the ceiling is for this running game

690
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 1: coordinated by Clayton Adams coming up over from Arizona, because

691
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Speaker 1: it is one of the things that I feel differently

692
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Speaker 1: about after watching one game.

693
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Speaker 2: Yeah, if we can track the growth of last season,

694
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 2: where the season started and again I understand as different

695
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 2: parts of this coaching staff where there was nothing available

696
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 2: with then as Rico Dubell kind of got going late

697
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:50,719
Speaker 2: to the middle part of last season, it's like it

698
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:54,240
Speaker 2: was a viable run game. It already starts looking with

699
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Speaker 2: like some injuries questions up front, starts looks like it

700
00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 2: looks like a viable running game to where the offense

701
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 2: can actually have that balance and if Dak plays like that,

702
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 2: they're going to be in every single game.

703
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, but again that's all the health of four.

704
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Speaker 5: This is a lazy comparison, but I'm gonna make it anyway.

705
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Speaker 5: They're kind of BENGALSY twenty twenty four to me a

706
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 5: little bit. Obviously, it's really extreme talent receiver. I think

707
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:20,479
Speaker 5: they're going to run the ball better than a lot

708
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:22,719
Speaker 5: of people expected. The Bengals last year did that as

709
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 5: well with Chase Brown. They pleasantly surprised me with how

710
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 5: they were running the ball because even enjoyed, they weren't

711
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 5: getting any movement at all, even when they were allowed

712
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Speaker 5: to hit at practices. And so for them to be

713
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Speaker 5: able to come out and look, like I said, surprisingly

714
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Speaker 5: adequate and even then some.

715
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Speaker 1: Kind of frisky and cohesive too, like creative.

716
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 5: I really liked. You could see they were running, you know,

717
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 5: Brian Schottenheimer and and Clean Adams. They the way that

718
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 5: they called that game after Jalen Carter came out. They

719
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 5: were calling especially inside zone. They were calling some gap stuff,

720
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 5: they were calling some duo stuff. They were really actually

721
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 5: spamming the place where he was not right. And so

722
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 5: I think that type of multiplicity in the run game

723
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:11,239
Speaker 5: is also important that you call what works in that situation,

724
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Speaker 5: that you have it even in the bag of tricks

725
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 5: to use. I think again, I guess you know. To me,

726
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Speaker 5: I believe that they're very twenty twenty four bengalsy, which

727
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:22,719
Speaker 5: is not necessarily a good thing, but it's better than

728
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Speaker 5: what we thought they were going to be.

729
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:25,759
Speaker 1: They got a little extra rest. I know, it's early

730
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:27,919
Speaker 1: in the season, but I'm always on three days extra

731
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Speaker 1: arrest watch not nothing. And this is a great matchup

732
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Speaker 1: for them because I would we have this idea that

733
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 1: the Giants defensive line is great, and it is. It

734
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:42,840
Speaker 1: is at the edge positions and Dexter Lawrence, which is

735
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,239
Speaker 1: a lot of the defensive line. But I saw last

736
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Speaker 1: week where sometimes they had a three man like true

737
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Speaker 1: defensive line where they have, you know, the edge guys

738
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Speaker 1: standing up and the three guys in the middle are

739
00:34:54,360 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 1: Roy Robertson, Harris Nacho Nunez and DJ Davidson. And this

740
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 1: is a team who's run defense stank in twenty twenty four,

741
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:08,400
Speaker 1: and they stunk in Week one too, giving up two

742
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty four yards. And I do think the

743
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:13,319
Speaker 1: edge guys are good, and obviously it is I do

744
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 1: think this might be a team that you can run

745
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 1: on because sheen Bowen like show me something like he's

746
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:21,279
Speaker 1: just kind of there and it's a passive kind of

747
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 1: staying back kind of defense. So maybe this is a

748
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:25,920
Speaker 1: game where we do see the Cowboys run the ball

749
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 1: a little.

750
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Speaker 2: Bit and I ultimately over on the other side. I

751
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:31,400
Speaker 2: know we talked about the Jackson Dard thing, It's a

752
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 2: tough needles of thread to coach well enough to keep

753
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:37,920
Speaker 2: your job and then like hide and protect a quarterback

754
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:41,839
Speaker 2: who's there essentially for Brian Dabeles purposes to keep his

755
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 2: job at some point to put him in and show promise,

756
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 2: and like you have to have that promise. It's like

757
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 2: a very delicate balance to try to have while you're

758
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Speaker 2: coaching a football team.

759
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:52,399
Speaker 3: Then I don't I don't know if there's a way.

760
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:54,720
Speaker 5: Well, Brian Dables a delicate.

761
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Speaker 1: Guy, you know, right, I think I think if they

762
00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:00,120
Speaker 1: like I think Brian Dable, I mean, I think this

763
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:02,800
Speaker 1: is it for Russell Wilson. If he struggles, I think

764
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Speaker 1: it'll be it this week and just the defense. Like

765
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:08,760
Speaker 1: I mentioned, I don't think he's going to do many favors.

766
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 1: They lost Michael McFadden, so that's a serious injury. It's

767
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:12,719
Speaker 1: going to be multiple weeks. I think he's going on

768
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 1: injured reserve. It's not for the season. And o'cara kay

769
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 1: was a guy that they were really excited about at

770
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 1: one point and is struggling and struggled a week ago.

771
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Speaker 1: So I think there's weaknesses there at linebacker, at cornerback,

772
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 1: and uh maybe maybe those six points aren't that crazy

773
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Speaker 1: and it might not.

774
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 5: Be a big deal. It might be a big deal.

775
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 5: Malik Neighbors was limited this week to start the week.

776
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:37,759
Speaker 1: Good to know, and Deron Bland missed practice, which was

777
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 1: a surprise. I didn't even know he was hurt and

778
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 1: that would be a significant loss for the Cowboys at cornerback.

779
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:45,720
Speaker 1: We've made it to the end of the road here, Patrick,

780
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:46,320
Speaker 1: we came.

781
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:48,400
Speaker 5: Everyone really is fighting over yes.

782
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:49,880
Speaker 3: Fighting, scratching and clawing.

783
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:53,720
Speaker 2: The Carolina Panthers are zero to one at the Arizona Cardinals,

784
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 2: who are one to oher who are six and a

785
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 2: half point favorites. The over under is forty four and

786
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Speaker 2: a half sprial DTAs out of Archelida and a ddkickball

787
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:00,799
Speaker 2: are there?

788
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 3: Greg?

789
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 2: At a certain point, we need to have a different

790
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 2: conversation about this Carolina Panthers run defense. It has been

791
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:12,760
Speaker 2: historically bad. It was historically bad. Once again, what.

792
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:17,319
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know. Derek Brown can't just

793
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 1: fix everything. That was the end of the question, right.

794
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:21,319
Speaker 3: That was it?

795
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 1: Yeah? Why?

796
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 3: What?

797
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 1: Why? Is another question? How?

798
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:30,279
Speaker 3: How when do they do something different? Like where do

799
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:31,360
Speaker 3: you find the answers?

800
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 1: Oops?

801
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 5: Okay, if I see the Cardinals throw the ball one

802
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:41,359
Speaker 5: gd time in this game. It's the wrong game plan.

803
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, maybe they'll miss Clayton Adams. By the way,

804
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 1: because their run game wasn't great against the Saint Well

805
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 1: that James Connor runs weren't great. I guess they were fine.

806
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:51,320
Speaker 1: They were they had a normal running game. But yes,

807
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 1: you're right, this.

808
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 5: Don't run the ball fifteen personnel. The whole game is.

809
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 1: This feels like a Panther's Cardinals Jordan game. For the

810
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 1: first time, we can now announce Sunday Jordan Rodrigue full

811
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 1: recap show. She's getting the assignments. You know, we're going

812
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 1: to figure out who has what games. And this feels,

813
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 1: if you're down with it, like a Jordan game.

814
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 5: Oh, this is a this is a very very me game.

815
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:21,759
Speaker 1: It's a Jordan coded game. So I think if you're

816
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:24,840
Speaker 1: okay with it, this will be the game that you

817
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 1: focus extra hard on, you try extra hard on in

818
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:28,959
Speaker 1: the afternoon game.

819
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:31,440
Speaker 5: Yes, and also it is interesting that you ask me

820
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 5: as we're taping, because what if I would have said no,

821
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Speaker 5: it's not okay. I can't just say then I'll take

822
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:36,320
Speaker 5: it okay.

823
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:37,759
Speaker 1: I mean I'll take it and you can have the

824
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 1: Super Bowl rematch. It's quite a difference, it is.

825
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:42,719
Speaker 5: It is a that's a little bit of whiplash there.

826
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 1: I have different strategies though, Like I like to watch

827
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 1: those closer sometimes the next day. Anyway, So I'm fine,

828
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:49,400
Speaker 1: I'm fine missing.

829
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:50,799
Speaker 5: I do I do really want to watch this game

830
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:53,239
Speaker 5: because I do think that this defense with the Panthers.

831
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:58,359
Speaker 5: First of all, there's still they're still undermanned, right and overwhelmed,

832
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 5: and so far it's one week, right, but so far

833
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 5: it's the same story, and it's sort of a ticking

834
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 5: time bomb in terms of you know, a Gerrell Everro

835
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:09,880
Speaker 5: being there and his entire staff and like, that's that

836
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:12,319
Speaker 5: is just a situation to keep an eye on, and

837
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:14,279
Speaker 5: it's something where you don't want to keep changing and

838
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:17,320
Speaker 5: changing and changing and changing. But you know, and I

839
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:19,840
Speaker 5: would also argue that yes, they went out and got

840
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:22,839
Speaker 5: some they paid some veteran free agents to come in

841
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 5: Christian rose Boom and Bobby Brown, and then they are

842
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:27,840
Speaker 5: trying to figure out what they're doing at corner and

843
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:29,799
Speaker 5: all this stuff, and that's their prerogative to do.

844
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 1: So Okay, say the line, say the line, but it.

845
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:37,239
Speaker 5: Also is it also is like, okay, it's bang your

846
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:39,399
Speaker 5: head against the wall enough times, you're going to knock

847
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:40,759
Speaker 5: yourself out, Like come on.

848
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 1: Their pass rush was completely non existent in terms of pressures,

849
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:49,720
Speaker 1: you know, per snap, by far the worst pass rush

850
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 1: of any team in the league last year. I mean

851
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:54,400
Speaker 1: last week it was against the Jaguars offensive line, and

852
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:56,879
Speaker 1: maybe the Jaguars are a really improved group, but that's

853
00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:59,280
Speaker 1: not one that you think of, you know, when you're

854
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:01,520
Speaker 1: thinking of like great, great offensive lines, and it's such

855
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 1: a big game for both teams, Like Carolina goes on

856
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 1: the road, wins this game and they're one and one.

857
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:07,800
Speaker 5: It's just like, yeah, then we're worrying for nothing.

858
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 1: Everything's fine, and you just start moving forward. They lose it,

859
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:14,359
Speaker 1: and you start thinking about, man, when those last time

860
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 1: the Panthers were in a season in mid October, forget

861
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 1: get into December, when is the time they were I

862
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:21,920
Speaker 1: went and checked. They were one and seven last season

863
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:24,360
Speaker 1: to start the year. They were one and twelve the

864
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:27,359
Speaker 1: year before, which was the it's hard to keep track

865
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:29,920
Speaker 1: of all their coaches Frank Reich year. And they were

866
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 1: one and five the year before, which was the Matt rule. Year.

867
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:34,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, the Matt Rules stuff doesn't.

868
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 1: So, but it's just it's just been a while since

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Speaker 1: they were even in the mix, like, and you just

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Speaker 1: don't want to have that sort of slow start. And

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Speaker 1: I think if you're the Cardinals, I heard Jonathan Gannon

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Speaker 1: say it this week, He's like, we were pretty rusty

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Speaker 1: last week. We need to wake up a little like now, like,

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Speaker 1: let's get going well because they were given a gift

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Speaker 1: by the schedule Gods getting Saints and then home for

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Speaker 1: Panthers to start take advantage and you start out.

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Speaker 5: Fast well year, I think allowed the grace of a

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Speaker 5: slow start. If you run into a scenario that Kyler

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Speaker 5: Murray admitted he ran into in which he was up

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Speaker 5: at four in the morning, very ill the night before

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Speaker 5: the game, I think, if you're not going through I

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Speaker 5: didn't know this.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he was, you'll put on the report late because

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Speaker 2: he was he was going through it.

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Speaker 5: He was going through it, and he was pretty open

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Speaker 5: about it on like an influencer twitch screet stream. Is

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Speaker 5: that I don't really know if I'm using the right words.

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Speaker 1: I thought he played fine though, but that's what.

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Speaker 5: He was saying. He was saying, he was like it

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Speaker 5: was bad news for Kyler earlier that, very much earlier

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Speaker 5: that mor.

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Speaker 1: This communication wasn't the only thing that was open. You're saying,

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Speaker 1: you know, there we go? You want more show you

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Speaker 1: got it?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, As a super Bowl we're focused on.

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Speaker 1: I do feel what have I done? There we go?

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Speaker 1: I do feel like we should wrap with that. But

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Speaker 1: I do want to just give some pop because I

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Speaker 1: know Cardinals fans they want to they want to hear

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Speaker 1: their team talked about a little bit. The Will Johnson

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Speaker 1: Max Melton combo last week looked freaking awesome. Will Johnson back.

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Speaker 5: Can watch that Will Johnson game.

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Speaker 1: I love that. And Melton too, was all over a

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Speaker 1: lave and and is a guy that under the radar

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Speaker 1: second round pick who was impressive last year and he

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Speaker 1: might be taking a step. That's exciting if you're a

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Speaker 1: Cardinals fan. Having guys like that next to Buddha Baker.

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Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to this game. We need a Bryce

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Speaker 1: Bryce AUNGBA.

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Speaker 5: He needs to play better.

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Speaker 2: A bounce back from a nominee performances the worst thrower

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Speaker 2: of the Year nominee.

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Speaker 3: Get it back, Bryce.

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Speaker 1: If you're gonna have a nominee, Week one is the

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Speaker 1: right time to do it. We have a whole season

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Speaker 1: of throws that are gonna be worse and throws that

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Speaker 1: will be better in games that will be worse. We

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Speaker 1: did it. We got to the end and I loved it.

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Speaker 1: That is it for the NFC and all of our

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Speaker 1: preview shows this week. If you're just listening to this

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Speaker 1: and you're and you're wondering, you know, where's my Bengals,

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Speaker 1: where's my AFC team? Like all the AFC preview games

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Speaker 1: are in the podcast. If you if your team's playing

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Speaker 1: a home game in the AFC, like even the Rams

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Speaker 1: are in there because they're they're going on the road

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Speaker 1: to Tennessee. That is in your feed as well. Right now,

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Speaker 1: that's it. We will be back in your feed on

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Speaker 1: Thursday night, Nick Shook and eye handling that primetime game.

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Speaker 1: So one of the best Thursday night games of the year,

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Speaker 1: Commanders Packers.

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Speaker 5: That's going to be fun. We previewed it earlier this week.

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Speaker 1: This this uh, this was a lot of fun. I

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Speaker 1: think the Sans as sance it's happening