00:00:08 Speaker 1: Well, I invited you here, thought I made myself perfectly clear. 00:00:17 Speaker 2: But you're a. 00:00:17 Speaker 1: Guess to my home. You gotta come to be empty. 00:00:24 Speaker 3: And. 00:00:25 Speaker 1: I said, no, guests, your own presence is presence. And I already had too much stuff. So how did you dare to surbey me? 00:00:48 Speaker 3: Welcome to I said, no gifts, sim Bridger winneger, Um, it's you and me. Here's my voice. Hopefully you're sitting there, uh fire roaring. Maybe there's a blanket over your knees. It's hard for me to say due to the just the constraints of this medium, but I hope you're comfortable, because I'm very excited. I have a guest here today who I just truly adore, beyond all else, one of the funniest people walking the planet, Langan Kingsley. Langan, Welcome to the show. 00:01:27 Speaker 2: Thank you. Am I allowed to speak now? 00:01:29 Speaker 3: Langan? The code of silence has been broken? 00:01:32 Speaker 2: Okay, great? How long are you I'm doing? Okay, I'm glad to finally be a guest on the podcast, finally, since it seems like I was sort of last on the list. 00:01:43 Speaker 3: Well, you were forgotten and just kind of pushed aside. Yeah, actually, I mean, if you're just gonna start firing from moment one firing. I would love to get into this with you. I emailed you months ago, but this something I think I might need to get into that. 00:02:01 Speaker 2: Form of communication between friends email. 00:02:04 Speaker 3: This is something I need to get into you with. I feel like you like the forum. Yes, of course you and I are on the page, on the same page for so many things. Yes, that aside, I feel like electronic communication as you and I are have very different philosophies. It's not my fartec What is your general do you? Is your email inbox just littered with unready emails? What's what's happening over there? 00:02:28 Speaker 2: Wow? This is really digging. 00:02:32 Speaker 3: Because I have I feel very tidy, not as tidy as some, but I make sure to read all emails and I'll say if I am if I need to reply to an email but I don't want to reply to immediately, I'll email myself saying remind or email back that psychotic. I mean, it is psychotic. It's totally insane. But you're going to hear back from me. Lancoln Kingsley on the other hand. 00:02:55 Speaker 2: Well, I have experimented with inbox zero out at times in my life. 00:03:01 Speaker 3: And total zero and which is that? See that's not me, So I don't. 00:03:03 Speaker 2: Know what's that even it involves like a complicated archive in box system. And I get very stressed out by email. I get very overwhelmed. I usually open an email and then I'm like I have to respond to that, and then forget about it, and then awake in the middle of the night with some five five to five days to three months later, and remember I never responded to that email. I also just hate doing it. I hate checking it. I feel like there's no time in the day where I am dedicated to sitting down and answering emails. And then oh and then this is also a problem as I keep an analog date book. 00:03:53 Speaker 3: Oh so I know Gmail, what is it? 00:03:57 Speaker 2: No, no, g cal, no G cow No, I can wow, And so then I I the idea is to make it more mindful and methodical. But what happens is my life spends wildly out of control, just ca nothing is ever marked down. And I think, well, I'll sit down with my date book and I have some idealized version very correspondence, but it isn't. 00:04:22 Speaker 3: But have you ever used nkel, GKEL anything never, so you don't even know if you would enjoy it or that. I mean, I can definitely objectively say it would probably be of great assistance it was someone who resisted it for a long time. 00:04:38 Speaker 2: It would definitely simplify my life in ways I am choosing to make my life more difficult. 00:04:43 Speaker 3: Right, But maybe you feel like on the other side that it might be a stress or in some other way. 00:04:49 Speaker 2: I don't know. I guess I think I worry about what if my phone dies and I lose everything? But then I've lost my physical calendar before. This is not This is how you're tapping into something that I know. I can be bad about tech. Sometimes I just get very overwhelmed and anxious. Sure, and then I shut down completely. And no, I can relate to that. 00:05:14 Speaker 3: For sure. If I get more than two texts from somebody at once, it will be at least an hour and a half before I even look at them, Yes, because I'm just like, what information are they trying to share with me right now? 00:05:24 Speaker 2: We just have so many modes of communication these days. I'll say it, Well, look, we're your phones black mirror. We've all seen it exactly, We're living black mirror. We thought, you know, Pom Pilot was the end of our problems. 00:05:36 Speaker 3: It was just the beginning us. A little while ago, Janelle James was on the show. The gift she brought me was a an analog calendar. Oh and I mean it was obviously. I mean she admitted to. 00:05:52 Speaker 2: This in another guest that was on the show before me. 00:05:55 Speaker 3: We've had a long, long line list. It's incredible, foreign dignitaries just kind of fascinating on the comedic legends, this sort of thing. And we've finally gotten around to you, and now I'm kind of rubbing it in your face. 00:06:13 Speaker 2: All because I'm not good on email. 00:06:17 Speaker 3: We haven't even gotten back to them. The root of this, which is I asked you to me and then I have failed to respond and said, you're one of my best dearest friends. We've known each other for well, actually not that long, but it feels like you've been in my life. Yes, for several lifetimes. Please be on the show and zero responsible and several meetings where you where you would refer to the podcast like I was neglecting you. And meanwhile, I'm wondering why hasn't she responded to this email. 00:06:51 Speaker 2: I also like that this is you have a tendency not to address any issue, so I just let it kind of shoo simmer. And I like to think you've been furious at me for months and I've been. 00:07:05 Speaker 3: I've been furious with you. Our relationship is just white knuckling it. 00:07:10 Speaker 2: And this is an explosion of epic proportions. And the rest of this podcast is I mean, Stephen did check the levels and we joked about screaming, but I both of us are ends, and well, this is how you make great media. You just you let little conflicts grow and grow and grow. And I think Andy Kohan has built a whole end Oh my god on this very. 00:07:34 Speaker 3: Common thank you Wait what what network is? 00:07:37 Speaker 1: Hit? 00:07:37 Speaker 3: Bravo, Bravo. Apologies to And I was going to say. 00:07:41 Speaker 2: One of your closest personal effluends, how dare you refer to another. 00:07:46 Speaker 3: You know, previous guest on the show. 00:07:48 Speaker 2: Yeah, which I feel like it's crazy that you don't. I know, there's a lot of but the fact I think you would really enjoy a lot of Andy's programming. 00:07:58 Speaker 3: This is actually a huge thing for me. Actually, we've got to get back to me. Let's spotlight over here. I have so many friends who I love and adore, who love and adore the Housewives whole Bravo slate, and I've attempted to get into it. I don't know what's not working for me. 00:08:20 Speaker 2: What is it that there are women? 00:08:22 Speaker 3: I think I hate women. Let's isolate that audio and just play it through the internet. I'm trying to destroy the women. No, it's I don't. I think that there's an an artifice to the shows that I can quite make it past. I feel like I'm picturing every time I'm watching it. I'm imagining the reality show producers more so than the people I'm watching, and I feel like they're the reality show producers are terrible, and I'm imagining them thinking of story I'm just imagining kind of slimy people thinking of bad storylines for these characters to poorly act. 00:09:00 Speaker 2: That's what exactly what I like about it. I just think that takes and scenes, thinking of. 00:09:05 Speaker 3: Them repeating the lines in the sort of yeah. 00:09:07 Speaker 2: And it's sort of like a reality that you create, so you've you know, you've. I think it's like the storyline this season is that Dura is the villain, but then everyone actually starts to hate Dirrit. They live they become what they've created. 00:09:24 Speaker 3: So they do you feel like they start out from a fairly artificial place and then it organically becomes you actually watch it grow. 00:09:32 Speaker 2: It's a chicken and egg. I think. I think small things happen and they say, go with that, go in that direction. For example, Lygan hasn't responded to your email about the podcast. Yeah, how does that make you feel? Bridger? And then there's this slow storyline that develops. Meanwhile I'm here thinking, oh, I guess I have fun talking to Matt Ingebretson and. 00:09:55 Speaker 3: God like a real black Jessica Gal. 00:10:03 Speaker 2: Yes, I know some of the guests you've had, Pridger. 00:10:06 Speaker 3: And I've been paying attention to some things in my life. 00:10:08 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then we slowly nurse that and then but then it actually becomes the producer. How does that make you feel? And then I think I actually hate Pridger now, and then we scream at each other and throw wine. 00:10:22 Speaker 3: And so so I mean, maybe I just need a strategy to get into these shows. 00:10:28 Speaker 2: I don't think you do. I think if you don't like it, you just shouldn't watch it. People love it, People adore it, well, people adore you know. I don't know, bud Light. I don't know why that was my example. I was about to say big Bang, but that's you know, a little done. 00:10:48 Speaker 3: But the difference between I mean, that's a you know whatever that example is. There are I don't know, people in my life who are in love with big bang theory, whereas there are people who I think find very funny and most of our interests. So I do love the Housewives. 00:11:05 Speaker 2: I think it's yeah. I think it's just some people don't have a tolerance for women screaming at each other, and let. 00:11:11 Speaker 3: Me see, I have a huge tolerance. 00:11:13 Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. 00:11:14 Speaker 3: I mean, I. 00:11:14 Speaker 2: Think it's crazy because also, Real house of Orange County seems right up your alley. They're all horribly trashy, like they live in horrible houses. They you know, they just destroy each other over dinner parties. 00:11:32 Speaker 3: Okay, I think. 00:11:35 Speaker 2: I mean, there's an episode of Real and I'm not the most versed in it, but there's a Real Housewives of Atlanta where Niani throws a party that is all white girls and gays. Never forget it's the name of the party. 00:11:54 Speaker 3: The party is called all White Girls and Gays. Never Forget. Never forget what. 00:11:59 Speaker 2: Is the men? The idea was everyone were white. Okay, it was women and there and gay men only who were fighted and never forget. I think she was hoping to make a splash. 00:12:11 Speaker 3: And I mean, was it ever a reference that this might sound like it's an all white part, like a white power party. I don't think, because Ninia is black, this is I'm really demonstrating. 00:12:24 Speaker 2: The serious. But yeah, it was. I think also people were like the associations with nine to eleven, perhaps there's. 00:12:30 Speaker 3: A lot of things happening. Yeah, And so how did the party turn out? Was there screaming and fighting? 00:12:36 Speaker 2: I think there was fighting in the end, but the fighting is always a little, you know, juiced up right. I mostly think you would. I sent you a clip. But there's a woman who was very out of place in Real Housewives of Beverly Hills called Carlton, who was a witch. Oh it's part of this. It did not and everyone hated her, and but I think that you really would have loved and did I hate that she was a witch. They hated everything about she was crazy in a different way, and she was rude to Kyle. I feel this is dumb to talk about but anyway, she lived in like sort of a goth mansion. Her children's names were Destiny, Mystery, and Cross I believe. And then she made all these comments like one of the other Real Housewives asked, oh, so were crosses? 00:13:26 Speaker 1: You know? 00:13:27 Speaker 2: Did you grow up very Christian? Or ask some question? And she was like, how dare you ask? 00:13:31 Speaker 1: That? 00:13:32 Speaker 2: She was British. She got very upset when another woman killed a bee. 00:13:37 Speaker 3: Right up, You're as where did her money come from? Was it a crystal empire? Oh? 00:13:41 Speaker 2: I wish No. She married a sports agent. 00:13:44 Speaker 3: Oh, someone was just stumbling into situations that a witch should not be, which. 00:13:49 Speaker 2: Should not be a part of. But her husband was also maybe one of the ugliest, grossest people I've ever seen in my life. It was just a real yeah that I think you really would have been joyed. 00:14:00 Speaker 3: Okay, well, maybe it's time. I feel like maybe once a year I try to give it another shot. 00:14:04 Speaker 2: I think so. 00:14:05 Speaker 3: I mean, one that has worked for me recently is ninety day fiance. 00:14:09 Speaker 2: Oh you've gotten into it. 00:14:11 Speaker 3: You haven't gotten into it. 00:14:12 Speaker 2: I haven't, but I feel like I would very much. 00:14:14 Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, it feels a little. I mean, it still definitely has the produced elements, but there's enough of it that feels leaning towards documentary that I feel like I actually am watching some version of reality rather than. 00:14:27 Speaker 2: It's almost as if you're watching Burner Herd song or yeah, this is an this is blue line, Yeah, of course, sunning. 00:14:39 Speaker 3: No, I just it feels a little bit more like early reality. 00:14:43 Speaker 2: Where it's worth following this, where it's right and people aren't playing into the Yeah, you're. 00:14:48 Speaker 3: Getting confessionals, which I do. They have confessionals in ones? Oh yes, do those feel a little bit more real or. 00:14:56 Speaker 2: Now? Because it's crazy because they do them all at the end of the season, but they all present them as if they're commenting on something that's happening right now. 00:15:06 Speaker 3: So it's this is very I do not understand. So it's just because they're trying to sew together a story or exactly. Yeah, I'm wondering what any of that would look like without the producer's involvement. It would be dull. I feel like I would be still fascinated to be watching these horrible people. 00:15:23 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it would. I think it would just be less say yeah, people would be more polite to each other and then talk shit behind each other's backs, rather than again throwing wine slapping each other. 00:15:36 Speaker 3: I'm screaming, yeah, what you're feeling. The other category is Bachelor. Do you watch any I don't watch. Do you Are you opposed to it morally or is it just boring to very I don't believe. 00:15:51 Speaker 2: In sex before marriage. I've heard about that fantasy suitee. No. 00:15:57 Speaker 3: I do feel like that show, out of all of them, is that we I think just like the most old fashioned something. It feels more sexist and awful to me. 00:16:06 Speaker 2: Yes, for sure, I don't have but I think I embrace that right, you know, you have to celebrate, and it does seem really I've seen clips of it, and I have a lot of friends who watch it, and a lot of you know, and people I respect very much who are very into it, and I get the entertainment value. I think it's just it's like lost. I never got on board. 00:16:30 Speaker 3: Well, you know, it's not going to wrap up in a tidy way. 00:16:33 Speaker 2: I was just going to keep going and by the end it's going to be was this all worth exactly? 00:16:38 Speaker 3: Back to Witches for a minute. I mean, I think that you have some level of interest in the occulty occult. No, but in astrology this sort of thing. Well you say that, Britrad. We both visited the same on my recommendation. You visited it. 00:16:55 Speaker 2: Yes, you you basically sucked me in, I mean. 00:16:59 Speaker 3: Our and Sarah had set me up with him. I went and he gave me my birth chart reading. Yeah, what it is your chart reading? And then I of course recommended him to you. What was your experience like with Angel? Yes, it was great. Did he do the same thing for you? Did he do a chart reading for you? He did a chart reading? Okay, So is that all these people do? Because these people, I hope apologies to the astrology community at large. 00:17:27 Speaker 2: I don't really know Bridgard. I have seen. I saw Angel, and then I went twice to a psychic named Pam at House of Into a show. Oh interesting, and she sort of does a tarot intuitive it's your aura okay, And the first time I visited her a lot of things she said I felt were extremely accurate, And then I went recently I went. I went a year later and it was like, I'll go back to Pam and she told me some wildly things, but also maybe some things that might be trip. 00:17:56 Speaker 3: They might reveal themselves later. 00:17:57 Speaker 2: Yeah, but this is a woman who is opera reading out of a crystal store neck hill. When you say something she says, you strike me as a creative person, and you're like, well. 00:18:09 Speaker 3: You could say that to anyone walking on the sidewalk right now and they would agree exactly what sort of thing? Was there? Anything deeply untrue that she sent you? 00:18:16 Speaker 2: She said she had some romantic kind of things. She said of like this person you're with right now is going to be like this is your Like this isn't the match. 00:18:28 Speaker 3: Oh wow, that's a big swing for It was a huge swing. 00:18:31 Speaker 2: And I knew that that was not true, but I was like really, and she had been so right before. I was like, are you sure this? I kept being like checking in and she doubled down on it. 00:18:45 Speaker 3: Wow. 00:18:46 Speaker 2: But she also said things like I was going to have a good time with friends and maybe go to Las Vegas. So she said I would be doing some traveling, perhaps Paris or both. 00:18:58 Speaker 3: Beautiful world. Wait, have you been to Las Vegas? 00:19:03 Speaker 1: Oh? 00:19:03 Speaker 3: Yes, what's your feeling? 00:19:05 Speaker 2: I hate it? 00:19:06 Speaker 3: Okay, thank you, I. 00:19:07 Speaker 2: Appreciate It's like I parked at ship in the middle of it does not tracking way I don't like cret ships either. But you felt when you went to You're throwing this all on me. But I felt like when you went to Angel, you felt like what he said was very accurate. 00:19:22 Speaker 3: Listen, Uh it was. It was interesting, definitely. I mean a lot of them what he told me was. 00:19:30 Speaker 2: Comedy. 00:19:31 Speaker 3: Well that's what I'm getting to. I mean there was a lot of just general information which I was able to think about myself as a person, which is helpful on some level. And then he got into some territory that was like predicting the renaissance of he of the romantic comedy, where I was like, why is this part of our conversation, and. 00:19:50 Speaker 2: Yet you wrote not one romantic comedy after that. 00:19:53 Speaker 3: I need the foolish move. I could have written to all the boys I've loved that before, to all the boys I've loved after, and so I'm sure there'll be a third Maybe that's my movie. Oh that would be I would be for you to take over the friend. Have you seen those movies? I don't. 00:20:11 Speaker 2: I don't know that I've seen not any. I'm I'm sure I would be delighted. 00:20:15 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you're a romantic comedy person. 00:20:18 Speaker 2: Com but any astrology typical gal Real Housewives, Rose, I probably you your pants. 00:20:31 Speaker 3: Yeah, I haven't seen any of Well look, oh boy, langoln you did time to get down to brass. Yeah, you came on the podcast today. I mean you texted me this morning. This is another interesting thing. You're even aware of the general premise of this podcast. 00:20:52 Speaker 2: Yes, but to be fair, you sent me an invitation, no intraction details whatsoever. And so I was confirming. You were just. 00:21:02 Speaker 3: Confirming, uh, if you should bring a gift. And of course there's some confusion here, and uh, there's the name of the podcast is of course I said no gifts, right, and. 00:21:14 Speaker 2: You could see how I would be confused, Yes. 00:21:16 Speaker 3: And so but then ultimately, I mean end result here, you did bring a gift. Of course, I brought a gaft I brought a gift except for me. 00:21:27 Speaker 2: Yes. Do you do this little artifice every times? 00:21:31 Speaker 3: To say I've done it with so many people At this point. 00:21:38 Speaker 2: Oh my god, you've lost yourself the podcast and he completely forgets who he is, do you? Yes, I say the ap You can say whatever you want on this podcast. You can get as nasty. This is essentially a Howard Stern episode. Do you know me, I am your woman. Remember that, I remember that. 00:22:04 Speaker 3: I certainly do. 00:22:05 Speaker 2: Yes, this is for you. If I this was specifically selected, I thought a lot. I mean we, you know, despite our sort of drama, we have started up for I would say we are good friends, right and I think we we do sometimes give each other gifts. Sure, you know, without the excuse of a podcast, I can. I can give my friends gifts and receive gifts without needing to start a whole podcast. 00:22:31 Speaker 3: Well some of us, don't, you know. I don't have that mental the mental problems that I do. 00:22:38 Speaker 2: Demented. This is just a way for you to feel like people like you belong. 00:22:42 Speaker 3: My illness has manifested itself in a full podcast. 00:22:47 Speaker 2: I love that you went to therapy. Not for me. I'm starting a podcast. That's just my imagine the scenario. Yes, this gift is for you. Yeah, I would love to. 00:22:57 Speaker 3: I mean, if you. If I must all open it on the show, I will say apologies to all other guests that have come before. I think this might be the most tidally wrapped gift I've seen. 00:23:10 Speaker 2: Thank you. I did not wrap it myself. You didn't know, and you'll find out more about where this was. Okay, Okay, yes, I do. I feel like you do know how to wrap a gift fairly well, I would say I'm a good wrapper of a gift, but. 00:23:24 Speaker 3: Today, and I guess we'll find out soon enough why this is so professionally wrapped. I mean, it's this beautiful sky blue bag with a complimentary yellow spring is here essentially is what this bag is telling. 00:23:36 Speaker 2: Us it is, And there's sort of a floral yeah to it. 00:23:40 Speaker 3: I mean this could work in all seasons, because that could also be a snowflake. 00:23:43 Speaker 2: That's t really, it might even yeah, firework, and there's you know, yeah, the yellow paper. 00:23:49 Speaker 3: Right, I mean this could be a baby chick for all I know. Well, yes, well, let me open. 00:23:55 Speaker 2: This up, okay, yeah, and tell me, because again I am so respectful of the roles of your podcast. I want to just make sure we're on. Can you get that I'm gonna I'm going. 00:24:04 Speaker 3: To reach in here. I have to sit the noise on the micro buff here, just get that crumple, destroy some car speakers and oh okay, so there's more that's just yeah, and then there's oh, this is we're getting to the gifts. 00:24:19 Speaker 2: So yeah, I would pull it out, and I. 00:24:22 Speaker 3: Know there's nothing left in here. That's it. 00:24:24 Speaker 2: There's only one gift. Calm, calm down. Okay, So okay, then could you read the sticker store I bought? This is the name of this. There's a store. 00:24:35 Speaker 3: I have never heard of this store. 00:24:37 Speaker 2: It's been open for four months. I can tell you all about it. 00:24:39 Speaker 3: Okay. There's a sticker on the tissue. I haven't opened the U because it was there's more tissue around the gift from the package, but there's a sticker holding it together. That is restrained whimsy, which I cannot imagine any business being called. 00:24:54 Speaker 2: Restrained voluntarily filing paperwork. 00:24:57 Speaker 3: But they've done it. And now I'm going to open this and this could change everything, change this could send me down a dark path. So let's open it up. Oh boy, what is this? 00:25:11 Speaker 2: This is? 00:25:12 Speaker 3: Okay, so I need to describe it seems to be some sort of like a piece of original artwork, an original artwork on a thick cardboard. It's like a twelve by would you say ten inches twelve ten or yeah, I don't know. It doesn't matter to the. 00:25:30 Speaker 2: Larger than a sheet of printer paper. 00:25:33 Speaker 3: But it's a some sort of painting of two little, obviously whimsical characters, line drawings, and then there's a what I believe is a poem. Should I read the poem, I would. I think it would be a mistake. Not all right. In my dream, the angel said give up your attachments, and I said, the only thing keeping me here, and she leaned over and whispered, maybe here is not where you're supposed to be anymore. I need to read the silent my brain to try to make sense of it. It just also, what is the title of it? It's titled wait is it on the back? 00:26:09 Speaker 1: No? 00:26:09 Speaker 2: No, no, it's sound at the bottom of the Oh. 00:26:13 Speaker 3: The title is attachment attachment, which did not even register for me as a title of anything. 00:26:18 Speaker 2: So I just want you to imagine a huge box of many of drawings like this, with different poems on that right and different figure strawn and I had a hard time narrowing in on which one to get you. There was one that said I think, There was one that said to do list drink wine. That was one that I thought. 00:26:39 Speaker 3: About the h and but this one I particularly enjoyed because I feel like the message is a bit dark and it's sort of saying kill yourself. It kind of is. Yeah, maybe here is not where you're supposed to be anymore. Yes, you've like tried all other options and this is the end of the life. 00:27:00 Speaker 2: There is another one that said, sometimes you sometimes you get to the edge of the cliff and you decide to jump off, and sometimes you decide to get a mintship by creat is there made by. 00:27:13 Speaker 3: Neither of those is like a therapy in doors behavior? 00:27:17 Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, But neither is starting a podcast. 00:27:21 Speaker 3: Until now, it's been enormously helpful for me. I feel like my anxiety has melted away. Start different for living a worry worry freas. 00:27:31 Speaker 2: I might become who you need to be. 00:27:33 Speaker 3: Ask anyone I interact with, I'm cool as a cucumber. I want to turn it over and just get some more details. 00:27:40 Speaker 2: So this is a I haven't even read this part because all I saw was the front. 00:27:44 Speaker 3: Okay, so I need to know apologize to the author of this because it's not a poem, it's a story. I don't want to criticize anyone. I don't know that there was a beginning or an end to what I just read, but that's fine. Yes, it felt more to me like a poem. 00:27:59 Speaker 2: I would say it also felt like a poem or perhaps a quote. 00:28:02 Speaker 3: But sometimes a poem is a story, and sometimes a story is a quote. Oh, of course, sometimes a quote is a poem. 00:28:09 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm no professor. I do think this is a piece of art that it reminds me of like cards sold at my mom would go to a lot of co op grocery stores in Portland, Oregon, where I grew up, and this feels very in keeping with that. Or it's sort of early nineties, is that? 00:28:35 Speaker 3: Do you do? 00:28:35 Speaker 2: You know? 00:28:36 Speaker 3: The what were the who was that? Maxine author illustrator, not Mexine. It was more cutesy. It's Mary like Ingle soh. 00:28:45 Speaker 2: Yes, you gave me a mug. Oh that's right. 00:28:48 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:28:49 Speaker 2: It's kind of in that territory, in that vein, but a little more quirky. 00:28:53 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:28:53 Speaker 3: This is a little bit more more Portland, more Portland. 00:28:56 Speaker 2: It's like you kind of have it in a house with a lot of. 00:29:00 Speaker 3: Tapestries, yes, and you're more things about why. 00:29:04 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like an earth the feel to it. 00:29:07 Speaker 3: It's I mean, it's anti. 00:29:09 Speaker 2: Very mud and something your aunt's house. Yes, absolutely has strong divorce vibes. 00:29:18 Speaker 3: Yeah, this is someone like just they're starting over. 00:29:21 Speaker 2: And I am obsessed with the stores like this that are just gift stores that So this is a gift store in Studio City. 00:29:29 Speaker 3: You went to Studio City, I know, huge brag. 00:29:31 Speaker 2: And it's owned by a man named Brian. But when I saw the name, I just saw the name restrained whimry because I thought, oh, I'm going to go to a thrift store and get your gifts off an exchange. 00:29:40 Speaker 3: And I will just say you're an excellent thrifter. 00:29:43 Speaker 2: Oh thank you. Well, we care about the environment, you know. And LA has fantastic thrift stars and some really horrible and some bad ones too. 00:29:51 Speaker 3: You got to watch out. 00:29:52 Speaker 2: You have to be careful. You can't be too careful. Can get one time I got, I got kind of host of a thrift store. I got a lamp. It's in my dining room still to this day. And the guy, he very enthusiastically plugged it in and was like, it works. And then it wasn't until I got it home that I realized there was no light switch, so the only way to turn it on and. 00:30:10 Speaker 3: Oh no, wait, can you buy one of those little things with the switch on it? Like an extender. 00:30:16 Speaker 2: Probably, but I haven't. 00:30:17 Speaker 3: I'm going to recommend one of those. 00:30:19 Speaker 2: Okay, but to the podcast listeners. 00:30:21 Speaker 3: Podcast listeners, if you have a similar lamp or something else without a switch, you can buy an extra switch. 00:30:27 Speaker 2: Perhaps this is the way to court a sponsor. 00:30:29 Speaker 3: Oh, I would love to get the kind of power chord community on this podcast. Just Electricians reach out Place, home, depot, lows, et cetera, et cetera. Okay, so you're in Studio City, headed towards a thrift store. 00:30:46 Speaker 2: Well, yes, I was thinking, and then I saw this star restrained Whimsy. 00:30:51 Speaker 3: And that's you're slamming on the brain. 00:30:53 Speaker 2: There are no words that I've spoken more to a gift to buy for printer or winegar than something from restrained Whimsy. And I was hoping it would be the type of star. Maybe they sold some sort of merch with restrained whimsy. 00:31:06 Speaker 3: Course a tankin me and my restrained whimsy tankini just strolling down the bordalk. I just love it because it's whimsical but not too Yeah, you have to have some control. 00:31:27 Speaker 2: But it's been there for four months. It was opened by this man named Brian who wrapped it so beautifully, and there was some in the wall I had not. He was like, I love these. Sometimes I just go through and it's like which one speaking to me? And he was formerly a stylust And then this is a lovely little gift stores said, wonderful there stop by restrained whimsy. 00:31:47 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I've got this beautiful piece of art that we're just glowing me speaking of us. They do have nice candles children. No, this is a I mean, this is an excellent gift. This is like if you let's say Mother's Day as. 00:32:00 Speaker 2: A perfect mother's day. 00:32:02 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yes, Maybe a friend is going through a divorce and they need a little extra push, a little something that makes them confuses their mental state in a way that's like I don't know where to turn. 00:32:16 Speaker 2: I will say, I will be personally offended if this is not hanging in your in your home. The next time I am in your. 00:32:22 Speaker 3: I'm going to have to find some sort of temporary wall hanging that I can throw this up every time you're on the way. 00:32:28 Speaker 2: Please do Maybe. 00:32:30 Speaker 3: This could hang about the dog's bit. 00:32:31 Speaker 2: I think it's a good kitchen, right, I would say, I think it's a good piece for the kitchen. 00:32:35 Speaker 3: Yes, this guy, uh, the kitchen counter material. Even in the. 00:32:38 Speaker 2: Kitchen counter material absolutely put. 00:32:40 Speaker 3: That behind a bottle of chardonnay. 00:32:42 Speaker 2: There was one about bacon cookies to it. 00:32:44 Speaker 3: Woh see this for me? I mean basically does just work on a non That's what well, that's what I felt. If I bought that one it would be too on the nose. And this one I just liked the confusion of the bessage. But I also thought maybe I should buy you a bit of a troll. 00:33:01 Speaker 2: I thought about buying you like a. 00:33:03 Speaker 3: Pot, like a piece of cookware, a piece of cookware, not the drug, because I one time went over to your. 00:33:11 Speaker 2: House and you right to boil water. 00:33:13 Speaker 3: God bless dog sitting for me? 00:33:16 Speaker 2: No, this was not I don't think this was dog. 00:33:19 Speaker 3: So were you just there to I? 00:33:21 Speaker 2: And I was on the rack having terrible cramps. I really wanted a cup of tea? Is it okay to talk about menstruation on this? 00:33:32 Speaker 3: I mean, we started this podcast, but I did reveal I hate women, and of course obviously anything to do with is not allowed top reasons to hate that, So all of this will be kind of beeped out way that's tasteful. 00:33:45 Speaker 2: But and so I you know, a cup of hot tea makes you feel better, And you were you were throwing open cabinets searching for a pot in which I could boil water, and you had nothing. 00:33:58 Speaker 3: I have a frying in. That is it. This is a you bake. I know I do bake. And this is actually a recurring topic on this show, which I just almost every episode. 00:34:12 Speaker 2: Oh well, I wouldn't now say, I guess I'm so late. I guess I'm so late in the game that it's been talked to death. 00:34:19 Speaker 3: No, this is just something that I do need to solve the problem, because I mean, at this point, people are going to be listeners are going to be frustrated with me the fact that I don't own any cookware. The last few weeks, I've been online doing some research about cookware, and of course have received no good answers. I don't know what sort of cookware to even buy. 00:34:37 Speaker 2: I will forward you some information. My friend works for the Wirecutter and all their cookware. 00:34:43 Speaker 3: I want something affordable. 00:34:47 Speaker 2: Is this also a recurring theme on the podcast Frugality Less so? 00:34:53 Speaker 3: But I'm sure it's come up. Yes, I've certainly come up in the past, maybe even on the first episode. I feel, and then from there on I've just this is definitely something I just struggle with constantly, is spending money on anything but cookware, especially because and this is actually I think mildly justified. I don't know if I'm going to. 00:35:13 Speaker 2: Actually you don't. You don't cook. 00:35:15 Speaker 3: I would like to, but I'm like, what if I try, and it's just not for me? 00:35:18 Speaker 2: I think you start We can talk more about this, but I think you start with some simple basics and things that you can eat, you know, because you don't need a lot, and especially if you're starting out, you just need basic things, and then start with those and see if you can make a few recipes. 00:35:34 Speaker 3: It's all about that initial investment. For me, that's very scary. 00:35:38 Speaker 2: There's a lot of good cookwear too. At the thrift stars Valet, I've gotten an astonishing amount of stainless y'all really stock pots. 00:35:47 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I will buy almost anything from a thrift store outside of underwear a swimsuit of course, no tank, no tank. And then, for some reason, cook war scares me mildly. 00:35:59 Speaker 2: I understand, because you think, what if math has been made? 00:36:02 Speaker 3: What if meth or what if like you know, human flesh or what if like some some sort of lunatic has been hauled off to jail and all of the whatever he was, you know, kind of hannibal lecturing or what have you. 00:36:16 Speaker 2: I think you're right, But I have a salad spinner from Goodwell. 00:36:19 Speaker 3: And that said, I do buy mugs from thrift stores all the time, so. 00:36:23 Speaker 2: That could have been. They could have been drinking full. 00:36:25 Speaker 3: Of bloody full draculus with cats like Luca cookware. That sounds like a brand of cook Luca Cookware. I love to cook. 00:36:41 Speaker 2: It's wait, well, I don't want to be yammering on about cookware if this is what everyone has talked about. 00:36:50 Speaker 3: No, No, we've definitely not gott into This is the first time I've revealed this is an exclusive to this episode, that I've been doing some online research for cook okay, and so this. 00:37:00 Speaker 2: Is a step in the arc. 00:37:02 Speaker 3: Yeah, everyone just gasped. 00:37:05 Speaker 2: Voted listeners of this as of yet unreleased podcast. 00:37:12 Speaker 3: You do cook a decent amount. 00:37:13 Speaker 2: I do. I have not the past year, just because my life is consumed with driving to Converson and yes, but I do like cooking. I enjoy it. It feels, you know. 00:37:26 Speaker 3: Is there anything in particular you like to cook any quisite sort of cuisine you enjoy cooking most or is it just kind of free for all? 00:37:33 Speaker 2: I think it's a free for all. I think I'm not a great baker because I lack precision, as evidenced by my email habits. I have a bit of a d D. And so I just sometimes I'm like wow, whoops. Yeah, And so I like things where you can sort of mess up and then. 00:37:54 Speaker 3: You know, soup got a super this is your improv roots exact coming. 00:38:00 Speaker 2: You see me. Training extends to the kitchen. 00:38:05 Speaker 3: Wow. 00:38:05 Speaker 2: Yeah, doing a lot of reflecting on the fact. 00:38:08 Speaker 3: That Okay, so you're yeah, I think I've tried cooking. I've cooked scrambled eggs. That's essentially doesn't count. No, Yeah, we've talked enough about cooking. I want to talk to you a little bit about gifts. 00:38:22 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:38:23 Speaker 3: I do enjoy getting a gift. I do you do enjoy getting a gift. It's not like I like for me. I do struggle on some level, just like I I worry about the person buying it for me. I don't like that people have gone out of their way this sort of thing. But you just kind of it works. 00:38:42 Speaker 2: It works for me. I mean sometimes I get bad gifts and then I feel an emotional weight to what do I do with it? Sure, but I do enjoy getting gifts. 00:38:53 Speaker 3: And have you gotten any particularly horrible gifts? 00:38:57 Speaker 2: Hmmm? Oh, I can talk about this my mom so similar to this piece of art. This is a huge point of contention. My mom sometimes has great taste and things, sure, and sometimes that extends to the other extreme whet. Like one time we were at this store in Portland that was sort of the clothing store equivalent of her strained whimsy, and there was like a cloth hat with a lot of lace, but it wasn't it wasn't a functional hat. 00:39:22 Speaker 3: It was sort of a close like a very picture oh oh no, small room has never worked on anything. 00:39:29 Speaker 2: Yeah, And it had sort of lace and buttons, and she was like, this is adorable. You need to buy it, And eventually I just held on to it forever. Well I hope she doesn't. She'll probably listen to this, but that's okay. I still have it. But she gave me a gift for Christmas or she was like, I'm so excited to give you this. I saw it, I thought of you. Oh, keep in mind at the point she's giving me this gift. I am a thirty three year old single woman living in Los Angeles and one of the things I have found my you know, niche in which you know, is there's a cat colony that lives outside my apartment and I feed the stray cats. 00:40:10 Speaker 3: They're living on top of a car, they're living beneath. 00:40:12 Speaker 2: It in my roommate and I sort of look after them. And yes, I mean Frankie does a lot. Was sort of co parent, but in various forms of being stray or feral. And she bought me a painting. She's like, we found this artist, or like she and my dad were somewhere and she like presents it to me. It is one of it was in a black frame. It's also colors that I don't respond to, like intense reds, oranges and passionate. And it's called nine Cats and it's just nine different drawings. I would say the artist is very similar. I think she's a very but it reminded me. Do you remember that book The Stinky Cheese Man. 00:41:00 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was it's almost like what later became the Einstein Bagels Corporation, kind of their general brandingness. 00:41:09 Speaker 2: And I was in that vein. 00:41:11 Speaker 3: It's a very nineteen ninety five like a cat. 00:41:13 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's sort of similar to like a cat with a smokestack coming. And I just I didn't even know what to say because I was like, I cannot hang this. 00:41:24 Speaker 3: What did she did she give this to you while you were in Portland? 00:41:28 Speaker 2: Was this important? 00:41:28 Speaker 3: Because it wasn't like male to you in a giant envelow. 00:41:31 Speaker 1: No. 00:41:32 Speaker 2: And then she says, she's like, if you don't like it, let me and I, oh, no, that's always a mistake with my mother. And I think I was like, I don't know if I like this, and then she's like, no, that's fine, that's fine. And that has brought it up every conversation. 00:41:45 Speaker 3: And what I mean, what is the conversation? 00:41:47 Speaker 2: She just says, I showed that painting to more people and they said it was great. And do you say, I don't, well disagree. I have now agreed to take the painting. Oh, your kid actually broke you down. Yeah, of course. 00:42:02 Speaker 3: I will say that everything you've just described sounds very similar to the way me inviting you on this podcast once. 00:42:09 Speaker 2: It was the gift. 00:42:10 Speaker 3: I did not want a lot of hinting around, so. 00:42:13 Speaker 2: I you you had invited, but also again I don't. I'm not good with the emails. So perhaps we're concurrently thinking something that it was like marriage. You know, at a certain point you just need to have that. 00:42:26 Speaker 3: You just need to need couples therapists. We don't have wares. 00:42:30 Speaker 2: Well, doctor Miranda, I don't know doctor with doctor wipinall. That's a character from a little short we made together. 00:42:43 Speaker 3: Okay, so it's now in your life, where's in your house? 00:42:46 Speaker 2: Well, it's still importantly I have to see at some point collect and really accept it. I mean I did, but then I got a new car and I drive it back down from probably my mom said, you forgot the cat painting. Anyway, there's this is hanging out for my head. 00:43:01 Speaker 3: Maybe you can go in your childhood bedroom or something. Yeah, I don't know that. I do think that that. I think most people know this, that giving a piece of decor, a piece of furniture, this sort of thing, clothing, clothing a little less so because it's it depends on what it is, right, but it is a display. 00:43:24 Speaker 2: Oh that's not for uh have something to put out. So like what I gave you, Yes, you're you're basically burdening. Yeah, it's a burden, that's exactly. It's a challenge that was exactly with this. And I do think that this is not something you are. You have a very good taste. 00:43:44 Speaker 3: Oh, I appreciate that. I but I would like to see this. This will find its way into my apartment in some degree. I wish I had one extra room that was kind of less traffic. But I do think, I do think that kitchens are more of a free for all. It's a fun, sort of fun space. I mean, this could even go on my fridge, although my fridge is covered in photos, so. 00:44:10 Speaker 2: Not a great Yeah, I don't. I don't want it. 00:44:12 Speaker 3: Wedge between a magnetick some babies, that's those are my nieces you're talking about. Take it back, No, I When you do nail it with something like that, it's an I mean. 00:44:27 Speaker 2: That's an incredible game. 00:44:28 Speaker 3: That person has really shown that they know you. 00:44:30 Speaker 2: But I should have gotten something you actually would have watched but this. 00:44:33 Speaker 3: But what would that even be? 00:44:35 Speaker 2: But I think this, But yeah, again, I think to go for you to invite me on a podcast, after much dress, after months, months of eggings on both of us, throwing rocks at your window, breaking and. 00:44:54 Speaker 3: Just kindling the studio. 00:44:57 Speaker 2: The studio in my car, and it's I just think this this really I mean the restrained way it all came together. 00:45:09 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it works on a lot of levels. Yes, And I do think the one thing you can say about a gift that's like this one, I don't I'm not going to call it a bad gift, But like a gift that's not exactly for the person, is it will be remembered? 00:45:24 Speaker 2: Well, it is for you. I just want that to be clear. I would not have gifted this to anyone else. Put into put of what to get you bridge, and this is what I thought of. But also I knew, I just knew you would like I think, of course. 00:45:45 Speaker 3: I love this. This appeals to a very interesting Yes, yeah, it works one hundred percent. 00:45:51 Speaker 2: Next time I'm getting you. Woulden't like something painted on a two by four that says stay out of the man case. 00:46:02 Speaker 3: I would love a man cave or a she shed that's newer. 00:46:07 Speaker 2: Is that newer she shed seems newer? But I see you as more of a man cave. 00:46:12 Speaker 3: Man cave. Get me, you know my xbox and but lights, of course I'll scream at my boyfriend from the man cave. So you were headed to a thrift store, which their story going to. 00:46:28 Speaker 2: I hadn't really gotten the car, but I think you know, just any I think you could sort find the thirst, start and then find what. 00:46:35 Speaker 3: Speaks right, There's almost always something at a thrift store. Yeah, to get well, I feel like it might be time to play a game. 00:46:45 Speaker 2: This is there's been enough, there's sack and forth. 00:46:49 Speaker 3: I'm done just having a conversation with you. Now. I'm ready for there to be ruled. I think we're going to play a game called Gift mess to. 00:47:00 Speaker 2: Okay, I've never heard of it. 00:47:02 Speaker 3: Well, it's because I have penned this little process and I need a number between one and ten from you. Five okay, so I have to do some calculations. 00:47:12 Speaker 2: Okay. 00:47:13 Speaker 3: While I do this, I want you to you have the microphone. You can just promote whatever you want. You can recommend things, Okay. I have whatever amount of time. 00:47:23 Speaker 2: Okay, so wow, this is a lot of power. What am I going to promote in this time? I'd love to promote for fans of Big Bang there's young Sheldon. I believe that's on CBS. Check that out Twitter. That's where I'm getting my news. This seems topical. Coronavirus. Be careful. I should promote things that are topical. Be careful of coronavirus. Make sure you're not touching your face. This will be bad to listen to when we've all died of coronavirus. Coffee, I love drinking it every morning. 00:48:02 Speaker 3: Lincoln, Yeah, I've never This has been the worst use of that time that I have seen yet. But do people normally usually themselves. I have nothing. You have come on to this and promoted young Shelton. I care about it. 00:48:24 Speaker 1: I think. 00:48:27 Speaker 3: You're in CBS's pocket phone. 00:48:30 Speaker 2: Know how to sell I don't have anything. If people care enough about me, they'll find. 00:48:34 Speaker 3: I'm gonna help promote Langan Langan Is. She's on Twitter. You can of course find her there. She was written for a variety of television shows. Uh. She and I made a short but is just tremendous. And Agan is you just you've got a typer name and to Google and just go on a But that's a journey. 00:48:58 Speaker 2: If people liked this, then they know how to use Google. They're not gonna kid under it. You have to just put myself out put yourself out there. People need the little push. People need the push. 00:49:10 Speaker 3: Listen to Langage. She's been on various other podcasts. Oh God, don't like for name in and enjoy yourself. Just prepare for the ride. Anyway, here we are gift Master. Oh actually no, I actually have to calculate a little bit more. 00:49:25 Speaker 2: Okay, so I am not going to promote my What else can I promote? We're drinking water right now, I'd say that's delicious. I'm not a fan of the cross. I'm not a fan of sparkling water. I also have some I grind my teeth so the enamel gets ground down sparkling This is not promotion anymore, but I think people should know. Be careful if you grind your teeth, get a mouth guard it. Don't drink sparkling water because it is bad for your animals. And you know, drinking and moderation. Like most things I have to I have very bad TMJ. 00:50:08 Speaker 3: Okay, I'm so sorry. I only calculated half the game. Okay, I've got the whole thing in order now, Okay, wonderful we're gonna get into it. 00:50:17 Speaker 2: That seems less of a game and more of you also have had a computer in front of you. This whole time, I was a complicated. 00:50:24 Speaker 3: It's just playing various videos that I've had an eye on. Why I'm trying. 00:50:29 Speaker 2: It's been grape Stomp and I liked Turtles Charlie Bit. 00:50:34 Speaker 3: My finger has just been in the corner. 00:50:35 Speaker 2: I would love if your computer is just playing NBA Highlight. 00:50:41 Speaker 3: Watching the game. I have an ear butt in one ear and I'm listening to the game. Okay. The rules of this game are I'm gonna tell you three gifts, three items potential gifts, and then three celebrities. You have to tell me which celebrity you would give which gift and why. Easy, okay. The three gifts that you are presented with are a a book of body jokes. Body jokes like the ear is oh no, like like body is oh b a w slightly crasp playful, okay, something you know, uh yeah, like an old man would probably enjoy. 00:51:18 Speaker 2: Yeah, like can't can't you see my I'm not sort about the guy in saran wrap anyway? 00:51:23 Speaker 3: Okay? Then, okay, so so overwhelmed by this game. You should see the spreadsheet I've got going here. It's you know, it's a it's a lot of crossed out, there's very I took a peek and there's a very long, psychotic looking. 00:51:44 Speaker 2: And body jokes. Ninety dollars chandelier. 00:51:47 Speaker 3: Shopping spree at AutoZone. 00:51:49 Speaker 2: Shopping are the three gifts you have to present another good shout out to that I'm. 00:51:53 Speaker 3: Trying to get into. The Yeah, the repair community, this sort of thing. 00:51:59 Speaker 2: Okay. 00:52:00 Speaker 3: The three celebrities that you have to give them to are why I'm struggling so hard. Why does this have to be a part of one of my eyes is failing one? Lauria metcalf u huh okay, the Pioneer Woman. 00:52:19 Speaker 2: The Pioneer Woman, the blog are the blog ass. 00:52:22 Speaker 3: And TV show hosts. She kind of does it all. At this point, I don't know her actual name. That's okay, the Pioneer Woman and she chose that name. Yeah, so so, and Queen Latifa. 00:52:31 Speaker 2: Queen Latifa, Yeah, okay, Laurie metcalf I'm giving the auto's own shopping spray. 00:52:36 Speaker 3: Okay. 00:52:36 Speaker 2: Why I read that big profile of her. It was in like, I think the New York Times magazine and she said she only buys Ikea furniture clothes from Target, and she laur She seems like a very practical woman because she doesn't like to ruin. You know, she doesn't know. 00:52:54 Speaker 3: She doesn't like want to worry about breaking or exactly. 00:52:58 Speaker 2: So I feel like she would really appreciate the autos. 00:53:00 Speaker 3: What is Lorie Metcalf doing at home that's so dangerous to furniture? 00:53:04 Speaker 2: I mean, I would like to know the most gifted actress of her generation. 00:53:07 Speaker 3: So I can only maybe she's just focusing on rolls and doesn't arst doesn't want to. If she spills, it's not a big deal. 00:53:13 Speaker 2: That would be a good sign for her kitchen. Like life is just rolls. The rest is drama, I don't know. Like the real drama is breaking her coffee table. Okay, so she's getting autos. 00:53:25 Speaker 3: Out, Okay, she's going to fix up her eighty eight and then Honda accord. 00:53:31 Speaker 2: The Okay, Wow, this is really tough. I feel like Queen Latifa would appreciate a book of body jokes. 00:53:36 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I see that. 00:53:38 Speaker 2: I kind of think Queen Latifa deserves more because I think she's made such significant contribution so our culture for decades now, and she is a queen, right, and so I would say a chandelier would be in keeping. And I imagine she has great tastes and sort of the home to you know, carry I. 00:53:54 Speaker 3: Probably got like a ceiling high enough. 00:53:57 Speaker 2: Yes, so I think maybe she should get the ninety thousand dollar chandelier. Okay, but I think she would also appreciate the body jokes. 00:54:04 Speaker 3: Oh, I mean, I think that's just in keeping with Queen as kind of a multi layered persona individually. 00:54:12 Speaker 2: Yeah, although perhaps she has a fancy car, so the AutoZone shoppings would be helpful. 00:54:18 Speaker 3: For her, yes, if her car breaks down, or to get some windshield wipers. 00:54:22 Speaker 2: And so that's why I wouldn't give the ninety thousand dollars chandelaier to Laurie Metcalf, because. 00:54:27 Speaker 3: Oh, that seems the exact that would just what she wants. That would take her down as an. 00:54:31 Speaker 2: Ex And I think body jokes, she doesn't need it. She you know, she's done sitcomments. 00:54:35 Speaker 3: She's Roanne, she's heard, she's heard it all. 00:54:39 Speaker 2: Yes, the pioneer woman. I feel like she's kind of the type that might secretly enjoy something little. 00:54:46 Speaker 3: Yeah. She seems like someone who kind of relishes in being a little bit naughty or occasionally she Yeah, Yeah, I think you've done an excellent I mean, that is the math you just did in almost no time. I mean, I you know, I do my best. Meanwhile, I'm trying to I took thirty minutes to calculate this. I hand you this, you know, this equation that you were able to just solve almost immediately. 00:55:14 Speaker 2: It's like a beautiful mind. 00:55:16 Speaker 3: It was a beautiful mind. And I've never I don't think i've seen anybody accomplish the game with such laser precision. 00:55:23 Speaker 2: Well, luckily you've had about one hundred people to pull for me. 00:55:26 Speaker 3: To compare me to Queen Latifa, Laurie met cappin The Pioneer Women Woman. Thank you all for being on the show. You were all so thoughtful. 00:55:35 Speaker 2: It's not a less of celebrities. It's less a less of people. 00:55:37 Speaker 3: About guests to respond to my emails and farmer gifts. 00:55:42 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, these are all things I've seen. Does that technically count as a game? What we just did? 00:55:48 Speaker 3: I think what is a game anymore? 00:55:51 Speaker 2: Settlers of. 00:55:53 Speaker 3: That's the only game you're familiar with. Yeah, I think that. I think that Gift Master is the game of twenty twenty. 00:55:59 Speaker 2: Okay, I mean it's a. 00:56:01 Speaker 3: There's another game that we play called Gift her a Curse, which. 00:56:06 Speaker 2: You said I had what. 00:56:11 Speaker 3: I felt like we had done. We had dealt enough with the dark arts in this episode, so we stray from that. We're at the final part of the podcast, and you've just proven yourself such a capable gift giver that we're going to answer a question to try to help somebody give a gift to someone in their life. Oh, okay, this is called I said no questions. Okay, people are emailing I said no gifts at gmail dot com. 00:56:34 Speaker 2: Uh huh. 00:56:34 Speaker 3: They need to give somebody a gift in their life. Bridger, my cousin, who is three months older than me and my absolute best friend, is turning thirty. What kind of gift should I buy her? She's a lawyer, just moved in with her bow and is a ted dorky in a sweet way. That's from l I don't know where Elle is living these days. Who knows where she is in the world. Let's assume we'll say San Diego in San Diego. Well, if you're not in San Diego, reach out, relocate, or go to on vacation. 00:57:10 Speaker 1: To l. 00:57:13 Speaker 3: Okay. So the cousin is three months older than her, so they're essentially the same age. That doesn't matter. 00:57:18 Speaker 2: I have a cousin that's three months younger than I am. 00:57:20 Speaker 3: Because it's a whole different world for you. 00:57:24 Speaker 2: No, I think we're very we're almost. She doesn't have a sister. I have a sister, but she's almost, you know, like a sister. 00:57:30 Speaker 3: We're very okay, right. 00:57:31 Speaker 2: Very different people. Okay, but she's not darky okay, So that she's always been cooler than I am. Oh no, So it's like, what should she get me? 00:57:39 Speaker 3: Maybe's like, let's try to imagine what your cooler cousin would buy you. 00:57:45 Speaker 2: Well, I think she's a lawyer. I always think a good gift is some sort of relaxation. A bubble bath, Oh like a where are you going for a bubble bath? I mean to buy a well, hopefully in the comfort of your own home, break into a stranger's home and bathe yourself. I think I mean, perhaps for Shane Whimsy might have that feels like a place but you go to, yeah, some sort of gift store or like a nice face mask or you know, face creams and stuff like that. I feel like it gets a little. 00:58:16 Speaker 3: Personal, Okay, yeah, to the person's Yeah, various their skin and this sort of thing. You don't want to cause a breakout, especially with the lawyer. Right what if she's in court and faces she splotchy and her client is desperate for her help. 00:58:29 Speaker 2: Yes, so don't do that now. But something you know, like a maybe a good hand lotion. That's a little bit, you know, that's yes, but in conjunction with something else. I would not give someone only hand lush. 00:58:41 Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, that would It would be alarming to open a box to just hand lotion. It's part of a relaxing bath time. Yes, maybe a bath bomb. Do people buy those anymore? Now? 00:58:54 Speaker 2: Do people ever buy a bath bomb? 00:58:56 Speaker 3: Ask? I've never. I think I was in what is that store? Lush? 00:59:00 Speaker 1: Oh? 00:59:00 Speaker 3: Yes, I think I was in one of those in two thousand and eight and saw a bath bomb. And now it's just to smell a bath bomb? 00:59:06 Speaker 2: Right now? You do the horrible Yeah, I feel like they smelled the candy. But I also think from the ages of you know, from seventh to probably eleventh grade, that was the birthday gift. Oh really great girl at any party? That or lip gloss? Sure, but I feel like maybe that that feels a bit generic. So that's my only concern, right, It's just like you could. Everyone wants to relax, Yeah, everyone wants to relive. Although but this is a lawyer. She's she's working hard, she's on her feet. 00:59:36 Speaker 3: Getting home at eleven forty five at night, and just needs a little But then maybe she falls asleep in the tub and then we don't know what happens after that. 00:59:44 Speaker 2: But you know what if they're dorky and they like playing games, so I don't. I'm not a gamer in any sense of the words. 00:59:51 Speaker 3: Well you've demonstrated this. 00:59:53 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, despite my mastery of gay. 00:59:57 Speaker 3: Gift master, maybe you're disconnect from gaming allows you to be the best gamer. 01:00:01 Speaker 2: Best gamer of all. But there is a game called Code Names. Have you ever played that? And it's very fun and it's very verbally based. So I feel lawyer would eat that as a lawyer. And she's with her she's married, right, or with her boyfriend, and they can advice some couples over. 01:00:17 Speaker 1: You know, do that. 01:00:20 Speaker 2: Nice bottle of wine with it, I don't know what it'll drink. I do, or you know something Martinelli's. If not, and you have yourself and a gifts you get to a local pizza parlor. I love that Sandygo pizza. Yeah, they all live in San Diego. I feel like a Martinelli's cheapens everything. 01:00:38 Speaker 3: Wow, leave it out. Does anyone like a Martinelli's. 01:00:41 Speaker 2: I don't know. You don't drink, so I would get you. I would feel bad. I think, yeah, it's sparkling. 01:00:47 Speaker 3: Just gonna be a sparkling water, A nice bottle of sparkling water. 01:00:50 Speaker 2: But not too much because of the enamel. 01:00:52 Speaker 3: Oh that's right, you've been down on a sparkling water. 01:00:54 Speaker 2: But I think an occasional one. So if she doesn't drink, perhaps a nice pellegreeno or a six pack up will cry. 01:01:00 Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, well you've just heard from someone who could have given Queen Latifah a chandelier or a book of dirty jokes, and Queen would have been thrilled. So I feel like this is exactly what you've got to do. Your dorky cousin has worked so hard and deserves a nice gift. I think, go with the game that's dorky enough, and let her enjoy an evening. 01:01:27 Speaker 2: With the game with the If you just a little extra tame more like you know. 01:01:34 Speaker 3: One of these delivery services for food maybe, and she can personalize no. 01:01:38 Speaker 2: Less than three thousand dollars. 01:01:41 Speaker 3: As long as it kind of destroys your you're not able to pay rent this month, it should destroy you financially. Yes, yeah, well go ahead with that advice and maybe sign both of our names on the card from the cousin, I mean, to the cousin. 01:01:55 Speaker 2: I think that's a great idea. 01:01:56 Speaker 3: She should be thanking all of us. L A N G A N Yeah, Langan, and I'm Bridger b R I D G E R. It's like bridge with an r at. Yeah, that's what I say at restaurants and it doesn't help. But that's the end of the show, Lingan. It's so wonderful to have you. Finally. 01:02:15 Speaker 2: I'm glad we this this we needed. 01:02:17 Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, this is the simmer came to a boil. 01:02:21 Speaker 2: We haven't spoken in mind. 01:02:22 Speaker 3: No, and it's kind of all just kind of run over the sides, this volcanic explosion and people I think have benefited in a big way from our this horrible little splinter growing into an infection. 01:02:37 Speaker 2: And yes, if the damage to our friendship has been worth it to make your commute a little easier. 01:02:42 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's all worth it, absolutely well. Get your gift to the listeners. Every episode's a gift to the listener, and every episode's a gift to me because I know the listener is listening. Does that make any sense? 01:02:55 Speaker 2: Guard Jess. 01:02:58 Speaker 3: Langan, thank you so much for here, and everyone, enjoy the rest of your commute. Goodbye. I said no gifts isn't exactly right production. It's engineered by Earth Angel Stephen Ray Morris. 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