1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:02,880 Speaker 1: Welcome to Good Game with Sarah Spain, where we're celebrating 2 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:05,480 Speaker 1: National Girls and Women in Sports Day by walking into 3 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:09,000 Speaker 1: our neighborhood sports bar and asking every bro we encounter 4 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:11,399 Speaker 1: a women's sports question we know they can answer. 5 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 2: Feels good to flip the script every once in a while. 6 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 1: It's Wednesday, February fifth, and on today's show, we'll be 7 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 1: nixing the Need to Know and bringing you No Dumb 8 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:24,640 Speaker 1: Questions Softball Edition with journalist, reporter, and editor Rhiannon Potke 9 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 1: ahead of the twenty twenty five college softball season, which 10 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 1: begins tomorrow. We talked about what makes the sports so unique, 11 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:35,240 Speaker 1: perennial powerhouse programs, and of course the stars, stakes, stats 12 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:36,519 Speaker 1: and stories that you need to know. 13 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 2: That chat's coming up right after this joining us now. 14 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 1: She's a journalist for multiple outlets, including d one sooftball 15 00:00:57,080 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 1: dot com, the leading source for college softball coverage and scores. 16 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 1: She's the founder of Goods for Greatness, and nonprofit that 17 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 1: provides sports equipment to low income children across the country, 18 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 1: and she's one of those. 19 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 2: Mourning people you hear about. It's Rhiannon pot Key. What's up, Rhannon, Hey, Sarah? 20 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 3: How are you doing. Thanks for having me on. 21 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 1: I mean, I'd like to think I'm doing better than 22 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:16,320 Speaker 1: you because I didn't wake up at four point thirty 23 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 1: in the morning, But that's your thing. 24 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:20,679 Speaker 4: So I am a morning person. It's you know, to 25 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 4: be in this profession as a sports writer and be 26 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 4: a morning person is probably the worst possible thing in life. 27 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 4: But I just can't. I mean, if I'm sleeping until six, 28 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:30,480 Speaker 4: then that's a long long sleep. 29 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:31,400 Speaker 3: In for me, which is crazy. 30 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 2: But it's no thank you. 31 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:35,919 Speaker 3: My genetics is blame my parents. I'm blaming my parents 32 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 3: for that. 33 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:39,320 Speaker 1: Well, thanks for taking the time to join us and 34 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:42,679 Speaker 1: tackling the very worthy task of answering all of our 35 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 1: very not dumb questions about college softball in the upcoming season. 36 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 1: We probably have some listeners that watch a lot of 37 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 1: college softball, even more likely some that just catch up 38 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 1: on the World Series, and maybe some that are new 39 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 1: to it. So let's make sure everyone who's curious about 40 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 1: softball earns what they need to know to dive in, 41 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 1: even if it's for the first time. 42 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 2: So this is college softball, no dumb questions. 43 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 1: Addition, historically, what are some of the top programs in 44 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:11,360 Speaker 1: the women's softball world maybe of all time and then 45 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 1: maybe just for the last couple of years. 46 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, of all time. You got to go back to 47 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 4: UCLA and Arizona. They used to you know, go back 48 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 4: and forth. Huge rivals. Still I don't know if they 49 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:22,960 Speaker 4: will still be rivals given the changes in conference re alignment, 50 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 4: but those two historically were, you know, always winning the titles. 51 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:29,799 Speaker 4: More recently we've seen a little variety. But last four 52 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:32,240 Speaker 4: years and six of the last eight, Oklahoma has become 53 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 4: the dominant program. But there is a lot more variety 54 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:36,799 Speaker 4: than there used to be. We had Florida State win titles. 55 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:40,080 Speaker 4: We've had the SEC build up programs like Alabama and Tennessee, 56 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:43,080 Speaker 4: and so there's a lot of legacy programs. But I 57 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 4: think everyone knows that Oklahoma is kind of the big 58 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 4: program now, but in the heyday it was Ucla. 59 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 3: Arizona that we're kind of winning most of the titles. 60 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 2: Why do you love college softball so much? 61 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 4: I love it because there's just it's softball, such a 62 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 4: faster paced game, and then baseball. For me, the innings 63 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:00,800 Speaker 4: are quicker, there's more variety. I mean, you get some slapping, 64 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 4: you get some home runs, you get a lot of 65 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 4: variety with that. The teams are very they have fun stories. 66 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 4: There's a lot of cheering in the dugout, which you 67 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 4: don't get much of baseball. I mean I can be 68 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 4: honestly like in my maybe run an air and go 69 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:13,640 Speaker 4: to the kitchen and have a game on and know 70 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:15,639 Speaker 4: who's playing just because of the cheers I hear from 71 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 4: the dugout, because every school is kind of distinctive and 72 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:20,800 Speaker 4: they all have their own separate cheers. It's just, you know, 73 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 4: and like a lot of women's sports, the players and 74 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 4: the coaches that are a lot more approachable and they 75 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 4: seem more down to earth a little bit, and they're 76 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 4: willing to kind of like want media attention and share 77 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 4: their stories. And it's just fun. I mean, I think 78 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 4: the main word. Whenever I go to a game, I 79 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 4: feel like it's a lot of fun and a lot 80 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 4: of action. 81 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 2: How were you first introduced to softball? 82 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 3: I grew up playing softball. 83 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 4: I mean I started in Little league baseball and then 84 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 4: I eventually like, everyone's like, you're a girl, go to softball, 85 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 4: So I did. I grew up playing it for about 86 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 4: twelve thirteen years. So I grew up in southern California 87 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 4: playing it pretty high level travel, so that kind of. 88 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 3: Got me addicted. 89 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 4: And then I you know, I was always watching softball 90 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 4: whenever I could, although back in the day that wasn't 91 00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 4: you know, as accessible, but go into games and stuff, 92 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 4: so it's always been in my blood. 93 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 1: I guess, Yeah, what important thing should fans know about 94 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 1: what went down last season in college softball? 95 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, well as we kind of, I said, Oklahoma when 96 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 4: it's fourth straight national title with one of the best 97 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 4: senior classes in the history of the sport. They won 98 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 4: a title every year, you really can't do better than that. 99 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 4: It's pretty pretty amazing, you know. Last year OU Texas, 100 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 4: Oklahoma State, UCLA, Stanford, Florida, Alabama, and Duke all made 101 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:24,799 Speaker 4: the women's College World Series. 102 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:26,600 Speaker 3: Duke was kind of a cool story. Is the first 103 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 3: time in the history of the program. 104 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 4: The program started in twenty eighteen, and it's a fast 105 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 4: rise underhead coach Mercy Young, And it was a littally 106 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:35,600 Speaker 4: even more compelling because her husband the previous year had 107 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 4: suffered a major heart attack that caused a lot of 108 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:40,719 Speaker 4: serious health issues and he wasn't there to see it 109 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 4: that year, and like so they almost made it the 110 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 4: year before, but if they had, he would have been 111 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 4: having that heart attack at that time. So it was 112 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:48,840 Speaker 4: almost kind of like this, you know, but they made 113 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 4: it back this into last year and that was a 114 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:52,279 Speaker 4: really cool, cool breakthrough for that program. 115 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 3: So that was fun to watch. 116 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 1: Let's get into things that might be unexpected. Are there 117 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 1: any major rule differences, conference re alignments changes that we 118 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 1: should be aware of heading. 119 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 4: In We talk about Oklahoma, Well, the SEC is adding 120 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 4: Oklahoma and Texas, and the SEC already gets in pretty 121 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 4: much every single team to the tournament every year, maybe 122 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 4: just one misses. So you add those two juggernaut programs 123 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:15,279 Speaker 4: and that conference is going to be crazy good. 124 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 3: And then you got the other moves. 125 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:21,160 Speaker 4: Sadly, the PAC twelve was a softball juggernaut, and you know, 126 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 4: we're still mourning the loss of the PAC twelve. I 127 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 4: know it's kind of going to be back in name only, 128 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 4: so Big ten adding UCLA and some of those road 129 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:31,279 Speaker 4: trips in Washington and Oregon, and the Big twelve with 130 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 4: Arizona Arizona State, and then you get calan Stan from 131 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 4: the ACC. So it's going to be interesting to see 132 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 4: some of those different matchups you don't see although in 133 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:40,480 Speaker 4: softball you get a lot more teams playing each other 134 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 4: because the amount of games you got, like sixty seventy 135 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:46,159 Speaker 4: games some teams play, so you do see more interconference 136 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 4: map I mean, like you know, cross conference matchups more often. 137 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 4: But it'll be cool to see three game series like that. 138 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, let's get into my patented four s's the 139 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 1: stars stake stats and stories. Who are a couple players 140 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 1: our listeners can follow on social maybe expect see in 141 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 1: a lot of highlight clips and at the top of 142 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 1: the stats. 143 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, let's start with probably the best pitcher in the game, 144 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:08,480 Speaker 4: Najerie Kennedy Naja Candy for some people that know her well. 145 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:11,480 Speaker 4: She transferred to Texas Tech from Stanford, which was a 146 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:14,480 Speaker 4: huge story because she signed an nil deal that was 147 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:16,799 Speaker 4: reportedly to be about a million for softball. 148 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:17,359 Speaker 3: That's huge. 149 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 4: So that was a huge move in the offseason. So 150 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 4: she's what you got to start with. You have a 151 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:24,159 Speaker 4: picture at Tennessee named Carlin Pickens, who. 152 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:25,160 Speaker 3: Was a really, really good pitcher. 153 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:29,039 Speaker 4: She's wanted to watch Jordi ball from Nebraska. I'm sure 154 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:31,719 Speaker 4: some people if they tuned into Oklahoma a few years ago, 155 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:34,279 Speaker 4: she was helping lead them to the title. She transferred 156 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 4: to Nebraska and then tore her ACL about three or 157 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 4: four games into the season. So she's going to be 158 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:41,159 Speaker 4: back for Nebraska this season, but kind of the first 159 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:44,600 Speaker 4: time we've seen her there. Catcher Reese Atwood for Florida 160 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:46,599 Speaker 4: had a breakout season last year and she's back. And 161 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 4: then one at Florida catcher Jocelyn Ericson, she had a 162 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:51,919 Speaker 4: great season SEC Player of the Year last year and 163 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:52,920 Speaker 4: she's one to watch too. 164 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 2: And who are some dark horse teams? 165 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 1: Are there any that maybe could be, you know, making 166 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 1: a run in trying to steal a top spot. 167 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 4: It's interesting because there's a lot of quality mid major 168 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 4: programs in softball. I think if I was to say 169 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 4: a dark horse, which is not really I mean with 170 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 4: Jordi Ball and the team, but I think Nebraska is 171 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 4: going to be one to watch just because they've got 172 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 4: a lot of transfers in and they have Jordi Ball back, 173 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 4: so that could be one that can make a World 174 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 4: Series run. 175 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 3: That's kind of a dark horse sleeper to get to 176 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 3: the World Series. 177 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 2: Cool. Okay, let's talk stakes. 178 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 1: How important is every game in a college softball season, 179 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 1: Like when it comes to making the tournament or being 180 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 1: a good team. Is it a big deal if you 181 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 1: lose a game or how many are there? 182 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, not every game is as important as it would 183 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 4: be for like college football or college basketball, because there 184 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 4: are more, Like I said, there's more than fifty games 185 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 4: in a season, So you have some midway call mid 186 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 4: weeks where you'll throw out some pitchers who maybe aren't 187 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 4: on weekend starters, and some teams can trip up there 188 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 4: and lose some of those games. 189 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 3: So there's not as much worry about that. 190 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 4: It's really conference play where you know you have the 191 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 4: three game series each weekend, So most coaches would be 192 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 4: satisfied to win two of those games and win the 193 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 4: series each weekend. 194 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 3: Obviously they love to sweep. 195 00:07:57,440 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 4: But it's really kind of just about who you beat 196 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 4: and when you beat them, and usually most of these 197 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 4: major conferences you get plenty of chances. I think for 198 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 4: the mid majors it's really important they take advantage of 199 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 4: the opportunities against the bigger opponents for the RPI's sake. 200 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 4: So maybe some games matter more to them than some 201 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 4: of the conference games. But yeah, it's not quite as 202 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 4: important as it would be in like football, where you 203 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 4: only get you know, fourteen chances. This is you know, 204 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 4: one chance each week. So college has a college offer's 205 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 4: got a lot of games. 206 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 2: Explain to us the RPI, Well. 207 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 4: It's ratings percentage index, which is very controversial in softball. 208 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 4: Most people don't like it because it's you know, depending 209 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 4: on who you play, where you play them. You know, 210 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:35,440 Speaker 4: if you play a team that has an IRPI, you 211 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 4: keep it. Even if you lose, you can jump in 212 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 4: the RPI. So there's no perfect formula. As we said, 213 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 4: almost all sports we see that, but that's the one 214 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 4: that the tournament committee uses the most. 215 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:47,679 Speaker 1: So at the end of the season, it's about both 216 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 1: your record and also the eye test or how a 217 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 1: committee views you as a team, which is why you 218 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 1: say it doesn't quite matter as much necessarily all the losses. 219 00:08:56,920 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 1: It's more that you're beating the good teams and the 220 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 1: teams that have a high RPI exactly. 221 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 4: I mean, there's and it's kind of built in obviously 222 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 4: with some of the strong conferences like the SEC. That's 223 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:07,680 Speaker 4: why a lot of their teams get in because they're 224 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 4: playing every weekend teams that are very good. 225 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 3: And high in the RPI. 226 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 4: So it kind of you know that's kind of baked 227 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 4: in and there is some eye test, but I think 228 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 4: the committee as they usually just go straight RPI a 229 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 4: lot more, and I think a lot of people don't 230 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 4: really like that as much sometimes, but that's just kind 231 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 4: of the way it is when you have this many 232 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 4: teams contending for spots in the tournament. 233 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 1: We got to take a quick break when we come back. 234 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:42,839 Speaker 1: More college softball with Briann and pot Key. Okay, let's 235 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:45,560 Speaker 1: talk stats. What's a great stat line for a hitter 236 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:46,440 Speaker 1: in the college game. 237 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 4: I would say if you get two or more hits 238 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 4: in a game and a few runs or maybe a 239 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 4: few RBIs you know. The hitting is in softballs, which 240 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:56,440 Speaker 4: really gotten better these past few years. The offense has 241 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:58,680 Speaker 4: increased way more than it used to be when you 242 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 4: pretty much every game was one zero, two to one, 243 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 4: one zero, two to one. So I think if you 244 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:04,559 Speaker 4: get two or more hits driving a few runs, you know, 245 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 4: that's a pretty solid stat line. 246 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 2: What about a picture. 247 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:10,319 Speaker 4: I think now for a picture, limiting teams to two 248 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 4: runs or less, you know, maybe eight strikeouts or more 249 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 4: and zero to one walks would be good. Like I said, 250 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 4: the offense is really increased, so it's you can't The 251 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 4: pitchers aren't going to be like shutouts every game like 252 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 4: it used to be. And softball's kind of developed the 253 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:27,079 Speaker 4: baseball approach of by committee. That's been a really really 254 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 4: new thing these last five years. There's no you'll still 255 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:31,440 Speaker 4: have your ass that go the distance, but they're doing 256 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 4: a lot more mixing and matching than they've ever done 257 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 4: in the sport. So that's a really really kind of 258 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:36,839 Speaker 4: a new thing this sport, and I think it's made 259 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 4: it fun. You even have some closers in softball which 260 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 4: you never used to see. 261 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 2: Why do you think that's happening? 262 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 3: I think because the hitting is in it. 263 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 4: The video has improved so much, and people have so 264 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:49,200 Speaker 4: much more stats and information on pitchers that you know 265 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 4: you can be and you have you know, if you 266 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 4: have a bigger staff, you can throw a change of pace. 267 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 4: And an interesting thing about softball is if you take 268 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 4: a picture out, you can put them back in, so 269 00:10:56,920 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 4: you don't like when you pull them, they don't have 270 00:10:58,800 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 4: to sit the whole game. 271 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:01,840 Speaker 3: You can rein hurt them again. So sometimes you just 272 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 3: do it for a particular hitter or like a part 273 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 3: in the lineup or something. 274 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:07,440 Speaker 4: And I think it's just the more variety that the 275 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 4: more pitches that people see from different arms, different angles, 276 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:13,560 Speaker 4: different spins, it really impacts the hitter. So coaches know 277 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 4: that and now they're going with it. 278 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 1: Are there any rules to how long a pitcher has 279 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:19,080 Speaker 1: to be in once they're inserted? Can they come in 280 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 1: for just one batter and come back out? 281 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 4: Yes they can't. Yeah, just one batter, come back out. 282 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:24,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's that's wild. 283 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:27,479 Speaker 1: So like if you just get torched by a particular 284 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:30,200 Speaker 1: hitter as a pitcher, you can just sub out and 285 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:32,199 Speaker 1: be like, I'm good, I don't really want to get 286 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 1: rocked by that gal again. We'll send someone else into 287 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 1: facer and I'll come back in possibly. 288 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, you can only come back in out limited times. 289 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:41,200 Speaker 4: Like you can't keep doing that every time that picture 290 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 4: that the hitter comes up. 291 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 3: But yeah, you conceivably do that. It's fun. It's kind 292 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 3: of makes it a little bit more of a chess match, 293 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:47,840 Speaker 3: you know. Yeah. 294 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 1: It's interesting because we had Kat Osterman on the show 295 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 1: to preview the ausl Athletes Unlimited Softball League, and she 296 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:58,440 Speaker 1: still holds a billion d records. Now obviously that's because 297 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:01,840 Speaker 1: she's unbelievable, but to your point, we're just also not 298 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:05,320 Speaker 1: seeing pictures go the distance as often and throw as 299 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 1: many innings. 300 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 3: Huh, yeah, exactly. 301 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 4: There's there's you know, you used to have it pretty much. 302 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:11,200 Speaker 4: You threw you to start a picture and she would 303 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 4: go the full seven if she was succeeding, or but 304 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:15,559 Speaker 4: nowadays only even pull play. They'll think, you know, hey, 305 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 4: let's rest her a little bit for the stretch run, 306 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 4: or we don't want to. So it is there's I 307 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:21,560 Speaker 4: think you're going to see a lot of different stats 308 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 4: that maybe you know, and Monica Abbott and kat Austraman 309 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 4: have tremendous like I don't think if you put people 310 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 4: seven innings they would do this, But now I think 311 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 4: it's not going to be quite as easy to do that. 312 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:32,840 Speaker 4: Or you're going to see different types of stats. So 313 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 4: judging things for like awards and things have to be 314 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 4: kind of, you know, a little different than they. 315 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 3: Used to be. 316 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, and a lot more strategy, feels like for coaches 317 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:43,560 Speaker 1: than as opposed to just like ride the ace. You've 318 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 1: got a little bit more thinking about who faces who. 319 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:48,560 Speaker 2: I let's talk to stories. 320 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 1: Any players, coaches, teams that have a particularly compelling story 321 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 1: heading into the season, could be come back from ury, 322 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 1: could be uh that they're close to break in a 323 00:12:56,800 --> 00:12:58,320 Speaker 1: record or switch schools. 324 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:01,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think we just gus a few of them earlier. 325 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 4: With Naja Kennedy going from Stanford to Texas Tech. That 326 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 4: was the biggest story in the offseason. And they've got 327 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 4: a new coach, Jerry Glasgow, who's he was at Louisiana 328 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:12,200 Speaker 4: and now he's there and he's all in. He's one 329 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 4: that likes to get transfers in there and kind of 330 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:16,719 Speaker 4: quickly transform programs. So we'll see if they can, We'll 331 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 4: see how high they can go. And then, like I said, 332 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 4: Jordy Ball coming back from injury is going to be 333 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:22,959 Speaker 4: one to watch. She's a great story, you know, giving 334 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 4: her immense success, and she hits and pitches, so she's 335 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 4: a huge dynamic add to that lineup. So I think 336 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 4: those are the two ones that everyone's going to be 337 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 4: looking at. I think, oh, you they're still top five program, 338 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 4: but just see who can take that, you know, who 339 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 4: can replace those stars and become the stars of the 340 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:39,199 Speaker 4: Sooners for the next generation. 341 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:42,439 Speaker 2: How rare is it in softball to pitch and hit? 342 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 4: It's it's it's not as rare as it as it 343 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 4: used to be. I mean, you still I think a 344 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 4: lot of kids they do it in high school, but 345 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 4: for some reason, once they get to college, a lot 346 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 4: of coaches don't want to give them the pressure of 347 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 4: doing both. 348 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 3: But then there's some that love to do both. 349 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 4: I've noticed the past few years and more are allowing 350 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:01,679 Speaker 4: them to, like some of the top aces two hit, 351 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 4: which I think is great. Some love to so I 352 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 4: think that's kind of an attraction for them. But I 353 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 4: would say it's you know, it's like fifty to fifty. 354 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 4: You get some that love love it, and it really 355 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:13,560 Speaker 4: depends on what kind of you know, what coach you 356 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 4: go to, and how they utilize pictures. 357 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 2: And tough to do it at the highest level on 358 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 2: both sides, I presume. 359 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 4: Yes, exactly, it is hard. I mean you you know, 360 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 4: if you can find one that can hit against the 361 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 4: great stuff like well as they can throw it, you're 362 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 4: definitely gonna do it. And it saves you a spot 363 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 4: in the lineup too. You don't have to use the DP, 364 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 4: so there's some strategy in it too to keep that, 365 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 4: you know, the picture in the lineup without having. 366 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 3: To put in another player. 367 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 2: Tell us about the DP designated player. 368 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, well you can. 369 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 4: That's a spot where you can insert someone in the lineup. 370 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 4: If you have like a week hitter who's a good 371 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 4: defender or something, you can put a DP in there. 372 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 4: And like I said, most times that could be for 373 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 4: the picture because the pictures. But if you have a 374 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 4: great picture who can hit, then you can. That's a 375 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 4: strategy where you can utilize someone else who's a weaker 376 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 4: hitter and put them in the field somewhere it's a 377 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 4: great defender and then have someone come in and you know, 378 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 4: hit the crap out of the ball. 379 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 1: So let's start with the stars, starting with the favorite 380 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 1: teams to win it all. It sounds like Oklahoma's going 381 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 1: to be the favorite again right running four straight. 382 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 4: Actually, Oklahoma will be up there, but I think the 383 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 4: favorites to win it all are probably mostly Florida and 384 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 4: Texas are the two that you're seeing a lot of 385 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 4: because Oklahoma lost so many players from last year. I 386 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 4: think people still realize they're going to be up there 387 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 4: and contending. But I think Florida and Texas will be 388 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 4: ones that maybe you have at the top of the 389 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 4: rankings to start the season. Whether that you know continues 390 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 4: at the end, we'll see and I think UCLA and 391 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 4: Oklahoma State or two that also are going to be 392 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 4: in the running there as well. 393 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 1: Is it the first time it's felt a little bit 394 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 1: more open with all those players graduating from Oklahoma? 395 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 3: I think the first time in the like the last 396 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 3: four years. 397 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 4: Yes, I definitely believe that, because they just said that 398 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 4: class was so sensational, and then plus you had the 399 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 4: COVID year, so you had some coming back that were 400 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 4: fifth years, so they Oklahoma was stacked and they still are. 401 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 4: They still have tons of talent, but it does feel 402 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 4: more wide open than it was the last four years. 403 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 1: So we know that Patty Gasso, who is the head 404 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 1: coach at Oklahoma, is literally like a legend in the game, 405 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 1: knowing what you know about her. 406 00:15:57,400 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 2: Is this like an exciting season for her? 407 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 1: The idea that people are doubting them, that a bunch 408 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 1: of players would graduate and they wouldn't be a favorite. 409 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 4: For sure, Patty loves and she loves coaching, and I 410 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 4: know not that she didn't have to coach those other players, 411 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 4: but as she loves developing players and developing. 412 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 3: You know, people into what they are. 413 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 4: So I think she's gonna love this season and get 414 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 4: kind of reinvigorated and having some young talent to kind 415 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 4: of mold and she does it. It's you know, I 416 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 4: guess doubted quote unquote being like five instead of number 417 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 4: one is. But you know, you'll take the chip anywhere 418 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 4: you can get it. So I think she'll love that. 419 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 4: But I do think the part she'll really love is 420 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 4: just the development aspects and having to kind of, you know, 421 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 4: teach them what much of the game again, as opposed 422 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 4: to having such veterans that you know, you don't necessarily 423 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 4: have to teach as much as you did. 424 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, two more for you. A softball back in 425 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 1: the Olympics in twenty twenty eight. Will that have any 426 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 1: sort of trickled down effects on college programs? 427 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 2: You think? 428 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 4: I think it will, Yeah, because many of the players 429 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 4: that you're watching now may have a chance to make 430 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 4: that national team. I mean it's because it's still you know, 431 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 4: three years away, and some of the top seniors juniors 432 00:16:57,520 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 4: may be able to make it, depending on who's still 433 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 4: around or hiring or not. And you know, the Olympics 434 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 4: always brings a spotlight to the sport, so it always 435 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:07,720 Speaker 4: ends up like you know, if people, oh I see 436 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:10,200 Speaker 4: in the Olympics, maybe I'll either start playing softball or 437 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 4: else watching college softball if they haven't already. And the 438 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 4: cool thing is a lot of them know the stars 439 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 4: if they are because most of the college stars do 440 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 4: play for the Olympics, and you know, some of the 441 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:20,679 Speaker 4: coaching staff too could be as usually made up of 442 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 4: college coaches, so that there's there's usually you know, a 443 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 4: little trickle down. The only thing about the softball being 444 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 4: the Olympics that's kind of a bummer is it's going 445 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 4: to be as much as I love Oklahoma City and 446 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 4: like it's a great venue, having to be play there 447 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:35,119 Speaker 4: and not getting the full Olympic experience around the other 448 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 4: Olympic athletes I think. 449 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 1: Is yeah, yeah, yeah. 450 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:41,119 Speaker 4: Yeah, they won't be able to be in LA around 451 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 4: and like in the you know you just fraternizing with 452 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 4: other athletes. I think that's kind of a bummer for 453 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 4: just you know, they'll still get the the other softball players, 454 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:49,600 Speaker 4: but but yeah, I think it'll have a trickle down 455 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:51,479 Speaker 4: effect to college and and some like I said, some 456 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 4: of the players you're watching now may be on those teams. 457 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:55,439 Speaker 4: So it's pretty good primer to get used to who 458 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 4: you might see then. 459 00:17:56,920 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 1: Which brings me to my final question, which relates to 460 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 1: somehow Oklahoma even getting home field in the Olympics, which 461 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 1: is unrelated to college softball. But there are people who 462 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 1: respect that Oklahoma's facilities are incredible. They are by far 463 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:14,399 Speaker 1: the best place to play the World Series, and that 464 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:16,959 Speaker 1: means that they get home field every single year. How 465 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:18,639 Speaker 1: much of a benefit is that and is there a 466 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:20,160 Speaker 1: real argument to having it move. 467 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 4: There's no question it's a little. It's a benefit in 468 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:24,920 Speaker 4: terms of the fans. Can you know, travel easier and everything, 469 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 4: and it's it's you know, comfortable for them. But you know, 470 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:30,960 Speaker 4: I don't think it's as decided as some people like 471 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 4: to make it out to be. I think there's I 472 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:34,679 Speaker 4: think it's a great venue. I think you know, you 473 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:36,879 Speaker 4: have to have it somewhere. I mean, Omaha's not winning 474 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:40,160 Speaker 4: every baseball title. I mean Creighton's not winning every baseball title. 475 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 4: They're in their own backyard. You still got to be 476 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:44,879 Speaker 4: good to get there. It's not really a factor there. 477 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 4: And the biggest question there is where else are you 478 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 4: going to play that has a facility that you can 479 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 4: build with the amount of money that'll have space and 480 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:53,920 Speaker 4: people to do it. If someone wants to spend a 481 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:56,200 Speaker 4: few billion dollars million dollars to build a whole facility 482 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 4: with the infrastructure, that's great, they'll play it somewhere else. 483 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 4: But until that's done, I really did the complaining is 484 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:03,639 Speaker 4: kind of you know, it's I think it's just a 485 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 4: coincidence that's become like now it's taken a life of 486 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 4: its own. And I think if it was, you know, 487 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:10,959 Speaker 4: played anywhere else, I don't know if like, if there 488 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:12,200 Speaker 4: was a good team there, you would be saying the 489 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 4: same thing. 490 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 2: But and for now, it does make for a really 491 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:15,720 Speaker 2: cool experience. 492 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 1: Everyone knows what they're getting, everyone knows where to go, 493 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 1: where it'll be, when it'll be, and how they can 494 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:23,359 Speaker 1: go watch one of the great things in college sports, 495 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:25,719 Speaker 1: which is the women's softball College World Series. I mean 496 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:28,200 Speaker 1: it is just one of the highest rated, one of 497 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 1: the highest viewed, and attendance in the scene around it 498 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:34,239 Speaker 1: is always such fun. All right, I feel like I 499 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 1: know more, I'm more prepared. I'm ready to dive into 500 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 1: college softball. So thanks so much for giving us some time, 501 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:41,199 Speaker 1: Rannon my pleasure. 502 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 3: I appreciate you having me on. 503 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 2: Thanks so much to Rihanna for joining us. 504 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 5: We got to take another break, be right back, Welcome back, slices. 505 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:01,679 Speaker 1: We love you're listening, but we want to get you 506 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:03,440 Speaker 1: in the game every day too, So here's our good 507 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 1: game play of the day. 508 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 2: You know what time it is. 509 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:08,879 Speaker 1: Choose your fighter, and by that I mean choose the 510 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 1: program you'll be rooting for this college softball season. The 511 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 1: twenty twenty five campaign starts tomorrow, so decide who you're 512 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:16,920 Speaker 1: rocking with and get in on the trash talk in 513 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:19,680 Speaker 1: action if you feel so inclined. We'd love to hear 514 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 1: from you, so hit us up on email Good Game 515 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:24,159 Speaker 1: at wondermedianetwork dot com or leave us a voicemail at 516 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:26,360 Speaker 1: eight seven two two oh four fifty seventy. 517 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 2: Thanks for listening, See you tomorrow. 518 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:32,120 Speaker 1: Good game, Rhannon, Good game, College soft Bebes? 519 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 2: Wait what college softbab? No? 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