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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of The

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Speaker 1: Weekly Zeitgeist. These are some of our favorite segments from

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Speaker 1: this week, all edited together into one NonStop infotainment laugh stravaganza. Yeah, So,

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Speaker 1: without further ado, here is the Weekly Zeitgeist.

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Speaker 2: Miles.

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Speaker 1: Yes, we are thrilled to be joined by the head

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Speaker 1: of represent Us, a good government group that does work

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Speaker 1: around anti corruption, changing voting laws, just general trying to

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Speaker 1: fix democracy stuff for something. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Hey,

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Speaker 1: if that's what you want to do with your time,

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Speaker 1: I guess you know what we saying. If it ain't broke,

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Speaker 1: don't fix it. But you know, I guess he's got ideas.

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Speaker 1: So welcome here the show.

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Speaker 3: It's Josh.

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Speaker 4: Hey, Josh, what a great as.

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Speaker 1: My voice cracked on, Josh, but you are specially welcome.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, thanks, good to see you guys. I'm sorry I

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Speaker 4: didn't bring a song. I didn't know I was supposed

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Speaker 4: to bring a song.

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Speaker 5: It's okay, okay, that's how we started setting. That's level

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Speaker 5: setting energetically. So now you come you're coming in in

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Speaker 5: a deficit and now energy.

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Speaker 1: Is up here. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, you got you

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Speaker 1: got a lot of love to Josh.

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Speaker 4: You guys. It was like it was inspiring. It was inspired.

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Speaker 5: Thank you, thank you. Oh yeah, anyway, nothing else happening

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Speaker 5: this week? What are you gonna do for Halloween?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let's just talk about moo dang.

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Speaker 4: Just talk only about Halloween.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I guess maybe a little a little

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Speaker 5: bit we can, but we have to if we have to.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, here, you're in Massachusetts and you said that you

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Speaker 1: are familiar with some Wu tang saying Wu tang yard

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Speaker 1: signs that I wasn't aware of.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, presidents are temporary.

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Speaker 1: Wu tang is forever. I like that, So don't vote, right,

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Speaker 1: is that basically what we're saying.

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Speaker 4: I'm not sure that's the message, right. I think it's

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Speaker 4: like American version of keep calm and carry on a right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Oh it's wild because I'm seeing versions that are

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Speaker 5: definitely done in the maga style, which I guess makes

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Speaker 5: sense that you some people would have like a visceral

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Speaker 5: reaction to that font and be like what the and

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Speaker 5: they're like oh good, yeah, yeah, yeah, good to know.

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Speaker 1: I feel like that that trick is not that fun,

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Speaker 1: Like when somebody has a mega hat that like doesn't

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Speaker 1: actually say mega. It says like made you look dude, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the major look guy? Yeah yeah, what is something from

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Speaker 1: your search history that is revealing about who you are? Yes?

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Speaker 6: So I love the Halloween season. I love a Halloween playlist,

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Speaker 6: but I realized that the you know, the difficult part

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Speaker 6: of the Halloween playlist is like you don't got a

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Speaker 6: lot of songs to choose from. I love having one

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Speaker 6: on around the house, but like, okay, it's Monster Mash,

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Speaker 6: it's Psycho Killer, I put a spell on you, and

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Speaker 6: like maybe something from Nightmare before Christmas. But then you

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Speaker 6: just gotta like repeat, so you know, it feels like

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Speaker 6: it's the same five or six songs. But I think

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Speaker 6: something people do not know is that Bobby Boris Pickett,

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Speaker 6: the guy who wrote the Monster Mash, just kept writing

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Speaker 6: monster songs. He just kept doing it. Every couple of years,

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Speaker 6: every time there was a new trend, he would do

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Speaker 6: another monster song. There's a monster Christmas song, and so yeah,

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Speaker 6: this guy just like has he's got you, He's got

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Speaker 6: your back if you like feel like there's not enough

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Speaker 6: Halloween songs. So I was kind of going through his

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Speaker 6: catalog and in the eighties, at the height of hip hop,

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Speaker 6: he did the monster.

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Speaker 2: Rap and I believe in the eighties. This is from

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Speaker 2: the eighties.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it has a very like eighties you know, hip

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Speaker 6: hop production style.

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Speaker 1: Oh right, yeah. At the same time I was, I

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Speaker 1: was assuming it was more recent than that because eighties

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Speaker 1: rap is so I don't know, like think about like

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Speaker 1: the Rodney Danger for you old rap and like you

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Speaker 1: know those like theme rap songs. It is very much

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Speaker 1: in that mold rap and Rodney Mister T's rats not

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Speaker 1: that bad. It's not doing the nursery rhyme thing where

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Speaker 1: they're like, well, my name is Dracula. I'm here to

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Speaker 1: say that, you know, like they it's it feels like

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Speaker 1: it was written by people. Well let's let's here listen

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Speaker 1: to rat. Okay, sorry I'm not heard guess too much.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, nineteen eighty four. I believe it's the.

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Speaker 1: Dast tell Yeah, you're of my supposed birth.

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Speaker 5: Went without episode, came down his head winds app Okay.

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Speaker 1: To rap, shock, the body shock, the body, body shock, the.

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Speaker 2: Shock, the.

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Speaker 1: Voice.

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Speaker 2: No million, I don't know who this is.

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Speaker 5: Okay, So one party is definitely like you know, some

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Speaker 5: sugar Hill Gang old Sea rap style.

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Speaker 1: But what he said the body bought like.

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Speaker 2: Shot the body shocking.

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Speaker 1: He needs to he needs to sue Playboy CARDI thank you.

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Speaker 1: The body part was.

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Speaker 3: That?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I really enjoy Jordan thank you so much. Like

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Speaker 1: usually people tell his search history, and this is like,

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Speaker 1: I can use this immediately. I'm putting this on my

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Speaker 1: kids playlist for Halloween tonight.

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Speaker 2: And just shirt down.

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Speaker 6: And just search for It'll replace all the Christian porn

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Speaker 6: ship in your search his exactly, because again, this guy's

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Speaker 6: got so many. He's got one called the Monster Swim

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Speaker 6: that's like a parody of beach party songs. And then

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Speaker 6: at some point in it he goes, it's better than

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Speaker 6: the mash has to say, like bringing about that old one.

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Speaker 6: We're all doing the Monster Swim now it's better.

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Speaker 1: This one also opens with him saying I was still

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Speaker 1: in the lab late one night, like so he's like

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Speaker 1: he's just like, uh, he kind of sounds Rizon like

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Speaker 1: the he's doing character work because he is getting like

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Speaker 1: more annoyed by Igor as it goes along, Like now

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Speaker 1: he and Igor are like kind of an old married

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Speaker 1: a lot. Wait, there's a chopped and screwed version of

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Broy, Wow, he really is doing the hip hop ship.

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Speaker 5: If he's doing a chop like a DJ threw slowed

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Speaker 5: down version, was that him?

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Speaker 2: This is slow? Yeah?

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Speaker 5: This is on the Bobby bors Picket YouTube channel that

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Speaker 5: Jordan's sent through. Like one of the clips is monster

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Speaker 5: mash parenthetical.

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Speaker 2: Slow and spooky version.

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Speaker 1: That's good. Yeah, he knows, he knows how TikTok works.

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Speaker 1: People love the slow down version of famous songs too,

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Speaker 1: So he's just getting in there. He's smart.

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Speaker 2: He's smart. I think he has passed on.

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Speaker 5: But you know, okay, well, whoever's running this YouTube k

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Speaker 5: yeah put this out two months whoever?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I love just like finding a thing and sticking

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know.

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Speaker 6: And it's like creative people. I think we all, you know,

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Speaker 6: we think a lot about like oh am I being pigeonholed,

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Speaker 6: like should I branch out? Have I been doing this

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Speaker 6: too long? But it's like this guy is just fucking

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Speaker 6: not monster songs, new monster song every couple of years,

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Speaker 6: and like yeah, I mean it's it's admirable. I like,

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Speaker 6: I like get a lot of inspiration, find.

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Speaker 1: Your pigeon hole and just keep drilling, yeah, drilled.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: It's like it's like being like Angetti's or like the Wegman,

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Speaker 5: the photographer who just takes wine mariner photos, and it's like, I.

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Speaker 1: Do one fucking thing, don't yeah anything else. It's these

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Speaker 1: dogs in clothes. Okay, one hundred years from now, this

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Speaker 1: is going to be the one thing that is artistically

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Speaker 1: respected from our time. His monster songs like the only

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Speaker 1: really lasting music of their time.

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Speaker 2: We don't we don't know much about them.

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Speaker 7: They're mysterious people, but he knows that they're They did that.

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Speaker 6: Their monsters didn't get together for a lot of different

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Speaker 6: kinds of parties.

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Speaker 5: Right, and their female deity haktuae right to this place.

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Speaker 1: Of course, what is something you think is underrated? Dange?

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Speaker 8: This is going to sound very basic, but seasons, and

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Speaker 8: I'm sure that's come up on the podcast before. It's

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Speaker 8: coming up for me. I live in New Jersey on

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Speaker 8: the Jersey Shore. It is as we record Halloween, it's

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Speaker 8: very spooky October thirty first, it is eighty fucking degrees

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Speaker 8: outside right now. Wow, And there's a lot of like

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Speaker 8: global warming hand ringing to be done about that, because

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Speaker 8: this is just like like fundamentally not the way that

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Speaker 8: temperatures are supposed to go this time of year. And sure,

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Speaker 8: I agree with all those reasons it's bad that we're

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Speaker 8: killing the world, but also, very specifically, to me, seasons

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Speaker 8: are important. We have already taken the fall decorations and

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Speaker 8: clothing out of storage and are ready to move the

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Speaker 8: summer decks into storage, but we can't right now because

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Speaker 8: the weather is being so ridiculous and it's just turned

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Speaker 8: my entire closet topsy turvy, and I don't know what

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Speaker 1: I think of the closets. Yeah, you think of the closets,

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Speaker 1: the fossil fuel industry, yeah, please please.

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Speaker 5: I love Yeah, I love seasons just because growing up

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Speaker 5: in LA we only have like two seasons, like hot

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Speaker 5: and not as hot, right, So I like, I like

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Speaker 5: wearing sleeves, I like hoods, jackets, pants, and the like.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, seasons, I do too.

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Speaker 8: And on a day like today, it's hard not to

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Speaker 8: think back to my childhood trick or treating in New

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Speaker 8: drop a bit so you're not walking around in like

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Speaker 8: full WCW sting makeup in eighty degrees of a pillowcase

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Speaker 8: of melting chocolate on your shoulder.

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Speaker 1: It would just be a nightmare. I will say it's

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Speaker 1: a little chilly. It was a little chilly here this morning,

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Speaker 1: so it's not global warming.

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Speaker 2: I don't know you're talking.

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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, so we're good there. What, Caitlin, is something

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Speaker 1: you think is overrated?

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Speaker 9: Well, I know that it's whatever National candy corn Day,

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Speaker 9: But candy corn, it's most overrated that ever happened.

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Speaker 1: Because happens every year.

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Speaker 5: We lo Look, we lose about ten percent of our

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Speaker 5: audience every October. We're down to about fifteen people. And

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Speaker 5: I'm sorry, but yeah.

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Speaker 1: It's truth.

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Speaker 9: It's so disgusting.

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Speaker 2: Is it for you?

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Speaker 1: Disgusting? Is it underwhelming? Is it? No?

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Speaker 9: Well it's not to me. It's not edible. Speaking of

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Speaker 9: candy that is not edible, I'm eating sugary wax that

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Speaker 9: looks like shit and it tastes like shit.

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Speaker 1: I hate it. Boom. I mean your ship is better,

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Speaker 1: it's cooler looking the mind, clearly, But I my the thing.

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Speaker 1: I am a I'm an icing bitch. I will eat

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Speaker 1: the icing off your cake. You know, if you didn't ask,

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Speaker 1: even if you didn't ask, I will just like you.

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Speaker 1: You shouldn't have left it unguarded like that. And I

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Speaker 1: think of candy corn as basically hardened icing, as opposed

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Speaker 1: to the wax, which does kind of fuck it up

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Speaker 1: if you think about it too much.

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Speaker 5: Either way, It's like, hey man, what if you think

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Speaker 5: it recontextualized it as old ass icing?

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Speaker 1: We're back, and all right, So we want to talk

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Speaker 4: See right and the ads. So let's just back up

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Speaker 4: I don't know if you get a fundraising emails and

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Speaker 4: I'm blowing up. Biden texted me last night.

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Speaker 4: There's no ra actual separation, right right, And so these people

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Speaker 1: Mega pack is Donald Trump. I just googled that. Sorry,

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Speaker 4: I'm glad you check out. Are you an undecided voter?

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Speaker 5: But so this all fits, I think, because like we

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Speaker 5: These like you're gonna get destroyed if you're not taking

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Speaker 1: And you said those two are not unrelated, you being

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Speaker 1: think you said off Mike, I was smoking on that

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I did turn my hat backwards and skateboard

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Speaker 5: Force pierced your own ear. Yeah, that's cool, that's good.

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Speaker 4: We're talking about five point one billion dollars this year,

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Speaker 1: The has it ever has it ever been good or

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Speaker 5: Man, I love crypto, I love gasoline, I love plastics, microplastics.

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Speaker 5: Right, because it's all like it feels, it's like an illusion.

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Speaker 4: more and more share of the economy going to them,

439
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Speaker 4: and meanwhile regular Americans are getting completely left behind. And

440
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Speaker 4: right now, neither party is stepping up to fix it.

441
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Speaker 4: I mean, there's a clear difference between the parties. Obviously

442
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Speaker 4: we were joking around before, but like clear difference in

443
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Speaker 4: the two parties, and nobody seems to have the balls

444
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Speaker 4: to actually step up and deal with the problems with

445
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Speaker 4: the political system when they're in power. Otherwise, you know,

446
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Speaker 4: maybe like maybe Obama would have done it when he

447
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Speaker 4: had power in both houses in his first term, but

448
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Speaker 4: like they didn't get done.

449
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Speaker 1: Because the other part is like the FEC.

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Speaker 5: Also, it's I remember at that time when Obama was

451
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Speaker 5: in office, like there was a chance to maybe put

452
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Speaker 5: more competent or people who are more dedicated to enforcing

453
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Speaker 5: campaigns finance laws, like as commissioners at that VC, and

454
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Speaker 5: that just kind of came and went.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, that's where you kind of I think, and

456
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Speaker 1: that's where it.

457
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Speaker 5: Becomes easier to see, like, well, what are the differences,

458
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Speaker 5: because at the end of the day, like they're all

459
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Speaker 5: sort of both both parties are beholden to playing this

460
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Speaker 5: sort of game of like, well, I also have to

461
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Speaker 5: answer to like corporate bene factors, which we've now just

462
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Speaker 5: kind of we're taking the mask off. That's kind of

463
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Speaker 5: what's going on. They it's all about money. They have

464
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Speaker 5: the money, What am I going to do? Swear off

465
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Speaker 5: that money? And they completely blown out like in an

466
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Speaker 5: ad war or something because I just don't have the

467
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Speaker 5: funds to compete. And it's yeah, now we're at this

468
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Speaker 5: place where we're I guess at.

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Speaker 2: The bottom already.

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Speaker 1: Can we get more bottom? Oh we can always get.

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Speaker 4: More of the bottomer, Yeah, we can go bottomer Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Sure, yeah, it's so. Yeah, the signal is no longer

473
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Speaker 1: like the idea of a democracy is signal goes from

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Speaker 1: people to the politicians or the institutions that can actually

475
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Speaker 1: do something about the will of the people. And that

476
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Speaker 1: stopped happening like kind of completely in the.

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Speaker 4: Last Yeah, I don't want you to guys to get

478
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Speaker 4: like totally blown up on the internet. So we're going

479
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Speaker 4: to talk about the democracy versus republic thing. Yeah, everybody say,

480
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Speaker 4: we're not a democracy, we're a republic. We are a

481
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Speaker 4: republic that is also a democracy, and sure, it's just

482
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Speaker 4: worth saying that, and so yeah, yes, what you said, like,

483
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Speaker 4: we're supposed to be able to vote for representatives in

484
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Speaker 4: our republic who we're supposed to do the will of

485
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Speaker 4: the people, but they don't. They do the will of

486
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Speaker 4: special interests and the people that are funding those super

487
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Speaker 4: PACs and the people that are funding their campaigns, that's

488
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Speaker 4: who they have to work for.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, if you if you think about it, like the

490
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Speaker 11: the body politic, the metaphor of like a body the

491
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Speaker 11: signal not getting from the eyes to the brain that

492
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Speaker 11: moves things, because like that would be a disorder.

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Speaker 1: That person would be in trouble or they would be

494
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Speaker 1: really high off that lab pack.

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Speaker 4: All right, I'm just I'm picturing somebody like involuntarily punching

496
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Speaker 4: themselves in the face. Yeah, it feels like the metaphor

497
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Speaker 4: you're going for.

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Speaker 1: Yes, exactly, because they're high off that super peck of Okay, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you said something in our last conversation that kind of

500
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Speaker 1: put a lot of this into perspective. Just when I

501
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Speaker 1: hear dark money, I never really thought about the fact

502
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Speaker 1: it's only dark to us, like we don't know where

503
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Speaker 1: the money comes from. But the politicians know that. That's

504
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Speaker 1: just like so like they have to do the extra

505
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Speaker 1: work to keep us from knowing who is funding their campaigns.

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Speaker 1: That's just totally so inherently sinister.

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Speaker 4: You know, if you think about the motivations of somebody

508
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Speaker 4: who's giving one hundred million dollar donation. It might be

509
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Speaker 4: because they have a worldview and they really want to

510
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Speaker 4: support it, Like it might be just totally all good, right,

511
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Speaker 4: Like I want to see war rights for this group

512
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Speaker 4: or that group, and I'm just going to give a

513
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Speaker 4: ton of money to support it. The other scenario is

514
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Speaker 4: that they're piling up all this money and they're making

515
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Speaker 4: a phone call to a political consultant or to a

516
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Speaker 4: politician and saying, hey, I got this giant pile of

517
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Speaker 4: money that's about to go to either you or your opponent,

518
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Speaker 4: and we're going to make sure that if you don't

519
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Speaker 4: support the thing I care about.

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Speaker 1: Then you're going to lose, right.

521
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Speaker 4: And it's that that's so sinister, right, And it's exactly

522
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Speaker 4: what's happening with all this stuff. It's it's folks who

523
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Speaker 4: are spending shit tons of money to make sure that

524
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Speaker 4: they have political power that is over the power of

525
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Speaker 4: the voter.

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Speaker 1: It's terrible.

527
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, like, what are some examples that people

528
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Speaker 5: that kind of go over people's heads and how like

529
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Speaker 5: I think most people are like, yeah, they put money

530
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Speaker 5: behind a candidate and then this person they get to office,

531
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Speaker 5: they're able to find a way to make sure that

532
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Speaker 5: that donation didn't go completely unheard, that the results in

533
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Speaker 5: legislation that's favorable to them. I think that's like one

534
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Speaker 5: easy way to think about it. But like, what are

535
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Speaker 5: some other ways that, you know, just just to kind

536
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Speaker 5: of for people to fully understand outside of just sort

537
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Speaker 5: of like these very easy to understand examples, Like what

538
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Speaker 5: are the more nuanced ways that this is completely completely

539
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Speaker 5: like perverting the process.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So in twenty fourteen, Princeton and Northeastern University did

541
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Speaker 4: a study together and they looked at eighteen hundred public

542
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Speaker 4: opinion polls over the course of twenty years to find

543
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Speaker 4: out whether or not the laws that Congress pass actually

544
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Speaker 4: represent the will of the people. And when they plotted

545
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Speaker 4: all of their data for average American income earners, they

546
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Speaker 4: found that when zero percent of average Americans won something,

547
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Speaker 4: there's about a thirty percent chance that Congress is going

548
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Speaker 4: to pass that law about that thing. And they also

549
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Speaker 4: found that if one hundred percent of Americans want something,

550
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Speaker 4: there's a thirty percent chance that Congress.

551
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Speaker 2: Is going to do it.

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Speaker 1: That's what the key takeaway is, Yeah, it's like it's

553
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Speaker 1: not good, No.

554
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Speaker 4: It's not great, no matter what the American people want,

555
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,520
Speaker 4: there's about a thirty percent chance that Congress passes a law.

556
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Speaker 4: In other words, we have near zero, statistically near zero

557
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:27,960
Speaker 4: impact on public policy. We the American people. They ran

558
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Speaker 4: the same data for special interests and wealthy donors and

559
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Speaker 4: all of that, and they found that those groups actually

560
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 4: do have influence. And then when you think about it, practically,

561
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,719
Speaker 4: like there's all sorts of issues that Americans really do

562
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,679
Speaker 4: agree on that are just like common sense solutions to

563
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:44,680
Speaker 4: stuff that we care about, whether it's whether it's background

564
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:47,480
Speaker 4: checks or abortion or like, there's lots of really difficult

565
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Speaker 4: issues that Americans want solutions on, but the only way

566
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Speaker 4: that we end up talking about it is it's this

567
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:57,359
Speaker 4: incredibly wild, divisive way. And that goes right back to

568
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Speaker 4: the It goes right back to the money in politics,

569
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Speaker 4: because they have so much more power when we're all

570
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Speaker 4: talking about the extremes rather than common sense solutions.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there were there were just a a there's been

572
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Speaker 1: some moments in the Biden administration where it felt like

573
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Speaker 1: he was like, yeah, man, I want to jack, but

574
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Speaker 1: like I just my hands are tied, where it felt

575
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Speaker 1: like he wasn't talking specifically about Congress but it was

576
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Speaker 1: like if they said he wasn't talking specifically to me, Jack, Jimmy,

577
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Speaker 1: I know, I know that was confusing, but Jack and

578
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Speaker 1: Mac and I feel like that is kind of what

579
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Speaker 1: he's referred like when you're a politician, like you're stepping

580
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Speaker 1: into this system where you are beholden to these like

581
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Speaker 1: massive moneyed interest groups, and you know, the stuff that

582
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Speaker 1: he was able to get passed, for instance, with regards

583
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Speaker 1: to like pushing back on just tech monopolies and the

584
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Speaker 1: power of the tech industry. I was reading this New

585
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Speaker 1: Yorker profile like millionaires who are donating to Trump's campaign,

586
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Speaker 1: and like it's there are some of these traditionally Democrat

587
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Speaker 1: donors who like switched over because they're like, well, we

588
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Speaker 1: just can't live like what Biden has done in this

589
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 1: administration is like unconscionable. It's just like he's like trying

590
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Speaker 1: to regulate, you know, completely unregulated tech power. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: it just it feels like like it's pretty clear how

592
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Speaker 1: it works. I guess we just don't hear the specifics

593
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Speaker 1: of it, like on a day to day basis. It

594
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Speaker 1: feels like it's one of those things that like in

595
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Speaker 1: the mainstream media they won't just be like, yeah, now

596
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Speaker 1: all that money's going to Trump because there was pushback

597
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Speaker 1: against like tech oligarchs in during the Biden administration, you know.

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Speaker 4: Totally the first time ever. This year, the crypto industry

599
00:29:56,080 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 4: is the largest super pac industry. Like there crypto companies

600
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Speaker 4: are giving more to politics than any other group, two

601
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Speaker 4: hundred and four million dollars going into the campaign, right,

602
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Speaker 4: and uh yeah, yeah, it's back to the same thing.

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Speaker 4: It's like they don't sure, I guess they don't want

604
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Speaker 4: to be regulated, but like, isn't it the government's job

605
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Speaker 4: to do what's in the best interest of all the

606
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Speaker 4: people and not just like those that have already made

607
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Speaker 4: a ton of money off the system that we have.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and so what I think, because that's like all

609
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Speaker 5: roads lead to Well, it's it's just the the just

610
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Speaker 5: obscene influence of money that creates this sort of like

611
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Speaker 5: legislative gridlock too, like to a you know, a much

612
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Speaker 5: more extreme extent, because like to your point, whenever people

613
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Speaker 5: are like when politics are like, well it's not that easy,

614
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 5: what they're saying is like, well, in this game, if

615
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 5: I step out of line, that special interest group they

616
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Speaker 5: come in and they primary me and put someone else

617
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Speaker 5: up to race in the race against me that will

618
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Speaker 5: be much better funded than me, and then I will

619
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Speaker 5: lose my seat. And because I want to be the

620
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Speaker 5: most popular person in my state, I have to do

621
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Speaker 5: whatever it takes to stay in office. And so it's

622
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 5: really not so much about what you want, but like

623
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Speaker 5: half of making it seem like I'm acting out the

624
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 5: will of the voter in my constituents and the other

625
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 5: half making sure I damn sure do not cross these donors,

626
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Speaker 5: because that's really that's who causes the most damaged, because

627
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Speaker 5: they can actually influence.

628
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Speaker 1: The voters more than the voters can influence me.

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Speaker 4: And look, if you want to get anything done, you

630
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 4: have to be in power right right, And the only

631
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 4: way to stay in power is to fundraise. The New

632
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 4: York Times did this awesome expose recently where they interviewed

633
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Speaker 4: a bunch of members of Congress who are on their

634
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 4: way out, so they're retiring this year or whatever, and

635
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 4: one of them talked about, in order to get a

636
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 4: bill put forward, you have to be on a committee,

637
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 4: right otherwise you can't even move a bill. And in

638
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 4: order to be on the committee, you have to hit

639
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Speaker 4: your fundraising goals for the quarter, which is some ridiculous

640
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 4: amount two hundred fifty thousand dollars or something. But in

641
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 4: order to be the person who decides whether or not

642
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 4: the bill makes it to the floor of Congress, you

643
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 4: have to be the chair of that committee, which is

644
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Speaker 4: an even higher fundraising goal. And so when we talk

645
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Speaker 4: talk about like the system is designed to stop good

646
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 4: people from getting good things done, it's that kind of thing.

647
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 4: It's like, right, no matter how well intentioned you are,

648
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 4: you're gonna have to go fundraise for special interest in

649
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 4: order to get anything done, right. And if that's who

650
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 4: you have to fundraise from, and then you cross them,

651
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Speaker 4: you're cutting off your your source of power.

652
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Speaker 1: Right.

653
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Speaker 4: And so until we fix this problem, it's just gonna

654
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Speaker 4: keep getting worse.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So there's a fix. Yeah a way, No, it

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Speaker 1: sounds like we're fucked. I think the episode's over.

657
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Speaker 4: Yeah, really happy podcast.

658
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Speaker 1: All right, Well, okay, so I we we just cut there.

659
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Speaker 1: Josh told us that there might actually be a solution.

660
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Speaker 1: So we're gonna take a break, we're gonna come back

661
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Speaker 1: and we're gonna hear what what could possibly be done

662
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Speaker 1: about the way the system operates. We'll be right back,

663
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Speaker 1: and we're back. We're back. Jordan, Are you a baseball fan?

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Speaker 2: You know I'm not.

665
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 6: I'm not a baseball fan, but I am really enjoying

666
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:08,720
Speaker 6: the World Series vibes around LA. I was in a

667
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 6: in a restaurant last night where they were showing the game.

668
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 6: LA lost, but just like great vibes. I don't know,

669
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 6: it's really fun as a non sports fan but not

670
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 6: I'll clarify, I'm not a sports ball guy.

671
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 2: I'm not a superb Owl guy.

672
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 6: Just a man who doesn't necessarily follow follows sports. But yeah,

673
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Speaker 6: I don't know, it's fun when the home team's winning,

674
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 6: It's uh, yeah, I'm liking it. I'm liking a positivity

675
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 6: in the city for sure.

676
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 1: So on the night of the twenty ninth, three guys

677
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Speaker 1: I think it was a group of three, two who

678
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 1: were like the main perpetrators, got in just as a wire.

679
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 2: I think all three got kicked out.

680
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 1: Oh the video I saw was just the two, but anyway,

681
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 1: maybe it was just the two, but they got in

682
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 1: just under the wire. For like group costumes, if you

683
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 1: don't have a Halloween costume yet, I feel like because

684
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Speaker 1: one of the if.

685
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 2: You're in a throttle you got your guys.

686
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, well they're wearing sunglasses at night.

687
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:05,440
Speaker 2: Yep.

688
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:09,240
Speaker 1: One of them has uh this was my favorite detail.

689
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 1: One of them had a slide glove, like the glove

690
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:16,279
Speaker 1: that people wear one ride running bases that can only

691
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 1: be described as like a oven mitt without the thumb part.

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00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 1: Masculine of the most masculine. Yeah. Yeah, one of the

693
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:26,239
Speaker 1: had that for no reason like I've seen I've seen

694
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 1: people go to games with baseball gloves because you are

695
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:32,440
Speaker 1: hoping to catch a foul ball. But like the slide

696
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:35,839
Speaker 1: bit is just I guess, announcing your intention to like

697
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 1: storm the field. Yeah yeah, yeah, but love their whole

698
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 1: energy wearing sunglasses at night. The guy who wasn't had

699
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:47,920
Speaker 1: eyes like two pistoles in a snowbank. To quote my

700
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 1: mom when I came in extremely fucked up one time.

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00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 6: I'll say the guy the kind of the main dude

702
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:58,280
Speaker 6: in this altercation, I would say his look is adult wrizzler.

703
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:04,359
Speaker 5: Yeah, adult wrizzler. If Tim Robinson was playing the adult wrizzler. Yeah,

704
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 5: so many, so many people have been posting I think

705
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:09,479
Speaker 5: you should leave memes to be like it was, whether

706
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:09,959
Speaker 5: it's the.

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00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 1: Phone one with him like this like yeah, so many.

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00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:15,880
Speaker 5: Face expressions like yeah there is so what what happened

709
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:18,360
Speaker 5: for people who aren't watching and aren't up on it?

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00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 1: And may the World Series may well be over by

711
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 1: now because five is tonight, but it game four fly

712
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:30,799
Speaker 1: ball was hit into like right the right field bleachers,

713
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:35,319
Speaker 1: and Mookie Betts went and made a spectacular catch, and

714
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,920
Speaker 1: a guy who was there in the crowd just grabbed

715
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 1: his glove and held him there like aloft while his

716
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 1: friend like held Mookie. That's risk. The first guy the

717
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:50,920
Speaker 1: ball out just pried the ball out like that was

718
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:55,800
Speaker 1: the rules. Yeah, and yeah it was. It was very

719
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 1: very weird, like it was the It was immediately called

720
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:03,239
Speaker 1: like fan interference and like the home team who they

721
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:07,239
Speaker 1: are rooting for was ruled out and then they were

722
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 1: kicked out. But but for one game for just crazy Yeah, Steve.

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00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 5: Bartman had to exile to god knows where. Yeah, these

724
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 5: guys who.

725
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 1: Touched the ball right as they were about to catch

726
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 1: it and like hurt the Cubs chances of winning the

727
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:27,280
Speaker 1: World Series.

728
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:29,439
Speaker 5: And like but this one, I guess because it's like, yeah,

729
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 5: fuck them. I think that's really why it feels I

730
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:34,840
Speaker 5: think justified amongst fans and like I was texting some

731
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 5: of my friends, I'm like, dude, if I was three

732
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:39,319
Speaker 5: to zero down, I would be doing some fucking toxic shit,

733
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:40,760
Speaker 5: I think out there, but.

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00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:44,400
Speaker 6: Right, find your worst fans, get them as close to

735
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Speaker 6: the game as possible.

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00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 4: Yeah.

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00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 1: I think it also speaks to the bitterness that, like

738
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 1: you know, just sports fans experience constantly, just simmering rage.

739
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 1: I should be out there catching the ball and I'm not. Yeah,

740
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 1: just a new strain of dirt egg just dropped, I

741
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 1: feel like, and it's I I remember the Steve Bartman moment.

742
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 1: And this was year, like over a decade ago, Like

743
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 1: like Myles was saying, like a Cubs fan caught a

744
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 1: ball that would have been caught by the home team.

745
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 1: A lot of people say he cost the Cubs. And

746
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:19,720
Speaker 1: he had an iconic look because he was like wearing

747
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 1: headphones and a turtleneck for some reason, and everybody that year,

748
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 1: like there were so many good Bartman costumes. It was.

749
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 1: It was such a good it's such an iconic look

750
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:35,839
Speaker 1: that I expect to see some Yankee dirtbag fans out

751
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 1: there this year. But yeah, like you said, he's only

752
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 1: banned for Game five. We got.

753
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 6: When I saw these guys. My initial reaction was, I

754
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 6: bet these guys still use the nicknames they were given

755
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:51,239
Speaker 6: in high school. Oh yeah, yeah, I bet these guys

756
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:53,440
Speaker 6: still call each other like dump truck or something.

757
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, exactly.

758
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 5: They're like there, where's bag of donuts? See bag of donuts?

759
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:03,240
Speaker 5: Fish the fucking ball of Mookie Betsmitt bro the fucking

760
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 5: I love the quotes from this The fucking deranged dude

761
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 5: are quotes.

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00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:10,279
Speaker 2: I missed the call. I'm sure they were.

763
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:13,399
Speaker 1: They found You'll never guess Jordan where they found him

764
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:15,840
Speaker 1: after he was kicked out. Oh my god, do I

765
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 1: get a near got three guesses across the street.

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00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:22,480
Speaker 2: Oh my god?

767
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 1: He wrote it on their shoulders. Yeah yeah. He said

768
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 1: he had previously discussed with his friend that if a

769
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 1: ball comes their way, we're gonna d up. I patrol

770
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 1: that wall and they know that.

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00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:38,319
Speaker 6: Oh no, this guy's he's made it his fucking thing.

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00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 2: He's like, it's my thing. I patrolled the wall.

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00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:42,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, my god, I wonder who he's voting for.

774
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I patrol the wall.

775
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 5: Is a very interesting description of him getting ship faced

776
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 5: and pretending he's on the Yankees.

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00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 2: But okay, right, I pray to be there. But I

778
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 2: do a job. I do pay them. But I I'm

779
00:38:57,560 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 2: the wall patrol guy.

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00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 5: But I okay, okay, I control my neighborhood too, boy, yeah, okay,

781
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:06,400
Speaker 5: what the controls are you on, sir? But yeah, I

782
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:09,360
Speaker 5: like I said quote, I know when I'm in the wrong,

783
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:11,440
Speaker 5: And as soon as I did it, I was like, boys,

784
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 5: I'm out of here.

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00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 6: Well that shows that shows some maturity and reflection, you.

786
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:21,920
Speaker 1: Know a little bit. Yeah, he knew, he knew where

787
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:22,440
Speaker 1: the line was.

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00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 6: And you know, Tony Hitchcliff would say, boys, I'm out

789
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:25,759
Speaker 6: of here.

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00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:29,279
Speaker 1: Boys, I know when I'm in the wrong, and I

791
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 1: sure fucked up. I agree later myself.

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00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:36,319
Speaker 1: Yeah. I also I feel like every member of the

794
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 1: Yankees and like this group of fans they all look

795
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 1: like they leave the stadium and put on NYPD uniforms,

796
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 1: like yeah, like they really like the guy who was

797
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 1: like one of the heroes of the game last night

798
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 1: for the Yankees, I was.

799
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 2: Like a big mustache.

800
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 5: It's just like that's yeah, yeah, they're going that's the

801
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:55,800
Speaker 5: only facial hair you can have as a Yankee.

802
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:56,280
Speaker 1: Like that.

803
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 5: That ship is so like tightly regulated for being a Yank,

804
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:02,440
Speaker 5: which is also very weird. But yeah, I feel like

805
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:04,759
Speaker 5: half of those players are about to be like those

806
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,880
Speaker 5: scenes or like undercover cops who are usually Yankees Jerseys

807
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:09,880
Speaker 5: pull out the badge that's on a necklace.

808
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:13,440
Speaker 1: Yea, yeah, I'd like, bro, whoa whoa NYPD asshole? Like,

809
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:15,840
Speaker 1: is that you have those underneath?

810
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 2: Maybe?

811
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, all those punisher stickers with the blue Lives Matter

812
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 6: flags exactly.

813
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 1: That they pull that out when the next time Mookie

814
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:28,799
Speaker 1: Bets have a fly ball next to the wall logo. Yeah,

815
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 1: all right, let's talk haunting houses, guys, haunted houses, or

816
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:36,920
Speaker 1: as I call them, haunting houses. It turns out a

817
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:39,919
Speaker 1: lot of Americans believe in ghosts, sixty one percent more

818
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:43,759
Speaker 1: than is going to vote for any presidential candidate. And

819
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 1: it's like it's actually a legal issue, because yeah, this

820
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:54,720
Speaker 1: is interesting. Yeah. So there a person once sued because

821
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 1: they bought a haunted house, the house and and the

822
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:01,279
Speaker 1: local court and it went all the way up to

823
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 1: the Supreme Court ruled as a matter of law, the

824
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 1: house is haunted, in a decision that's become known as

825
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:14,360
Speaker 1: the Ghostbusters ruling. I assumed this was in the thirties

826
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 1: at the latest. Eight it was in the nineties that

827
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:24,280
Speaker 1: somebody bought a house and then was like, whoa, whoa, whoa,

828
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:27,760
Speaker 1: you didn't tell me it was haunted, and was able

829
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:31,400
Speaker 1: to get their money back because they hadn't completely revealed

830
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 1: the degree to which was haunted.

831
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:34,799
Speaker 5: Like the person who owned the house was like, this

832
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 5: shit is haunted as hell. An old sea captain visits

833
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 5: me at night. And then when a buyer came, they like, yeah,

834
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:43,239
Speaker 5: it's pretty cool. It's pretty cool. It's pretty cool. And

835
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:45,320
Speaker 5: then so it wasn't. It was only because that owner

836
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 5: had out in the open been like you had like

837
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:51,719
Speaker 5: a New York Times baby, that they're like, oh, well,

838
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 5: that's just so funny.

839
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 1: As a matter of law, the haunt the house is haunted.

840
00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:00,759
Speaker 5: Yeah, we should have judge down he got scared, spent

841
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 5: one night and their hair was standing up from such

842
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 5: a fright.

843
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:08,759
Speaker 1: But it's basically spawned a cottage industry of psychics and

844
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:12,360
Speaker 1: exorcists who work with real estate agents to sort of

845
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:15,240
Speaker 1: get the haunted houses cleared.

846
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 7: Yeah sure, so this is this is literally a yeah,

847
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 7: it is now just a real business.

848
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 1: Yeah right, yeah, yeah, I was. I was checking.

849
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:27,440
Speaker 5: It's funny, that's the first thing I thought of, and

850
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 5: I checked her Twitter. She hasn't posted since.

851
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:31,280
Speaker 6: The name, Oh the haunted realtor from Nathan.

852
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:35,360
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly. She's like, all my what was the bus bench? Ads? Like,

853
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 1: all my house are one ghost free.

854
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 2: I mean that lady was just fucking ahead of the game.

855
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:42,440
Speaker 2: She should jump back in. Now.

856
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 6: It's apparently a legitimate business.

857
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:48,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a It is a legit business, and legit

858
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 1: in that people give you legit money for pseudo scientific thing.

859
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 6: But they just come in and they're like, so good

860
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 6: news and bad news. Good news. Uh, the spirit of

861
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:01,319
Speaker 6: the murdered Victorian out has been sent back to hell.

862
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 2: But I do have black mold. I'm sorry too. That's

863
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 2: gonna be pricey.

864
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 1: Yeah that's no problem. Yeah, we'll see if we can

865
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 1: get some concessions on that. I'll bring the price down.

866
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:11,359
Speaker 2: A little bit.

867
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 1: But yeah, but yeah, four states have real estate disclosure

868
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:16,800
Speaker 1: laws that specifically mentioned paranormal activity.

869
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:17,359
Speaker 2: I love that.

870
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:21,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, like you have to tell people, and some real

871
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 1: estate agents actually like bundle the service. There's a Toronto

872
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:28,760
Speaker 1: psychic realtor, Larry Medina.

873
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:30,799
Speaker 2: Who I just like that.

874
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:33,400
Speaker 1: There's like, yeah, fuck it fine, Like oh yeah I

875
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 1: can actually so I know you're worried that the house

876
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 1: is haunted. I can actually see ghosts. There is a

877
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 1: ghost here. I'm gonna talk to them though, and well.

878
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:46,279
Speaker 6: Know, I'm gonna I'm gonna find them a nice little

879
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 6: bungalow to move into.

880
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:49,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah I can. And I can get them

881
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 5: to another place if you want, of your choosing. That's

882
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 5: an extra fee. But yeah, anyway, well let's talk, let's talk.

883
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:55,719
Speaker 5: Let's talk offline about this.

884
00:43:56,160 --> 00:44:00,840
Speaker 1: They have looked into whether this would dissuade young people

885
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:04,960
Speaker 1: who don't have affordable housing, and it turns out young

886
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:11,920
Speaker 1: people don't give a shit over shit yeah, because they're like, yeah, yeah,

887
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:15,320
Speaker 1: millennials and gen z would live in the goddamn Overlook

888
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:17,440
Speaker 1: hotel if it was remotely affordable.

889
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 5: Yeah. I mean, it's also interesting to think like that

890
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 5: the idea of the haunted house is like from an

891
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:30,400
Speaker 5: actual like just old big Victorian homes like be going

892
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:33,719
Speaker 5: abandoned like in the twentieth century, so like there was

893
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:37,880
Speaker 5: just this visual of being like that's from a bygone era.

894
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:40,360
Speaker 5: But now we've all collectively been like these.

895
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:41,719
Speaker 2: Are haunted homes. Yeah.

896
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 1: There was a real estate panic called the Panic of

897
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 1: eighteen ninety three, which was a prolonged American economic collapse

898
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 1: that led to foreclosure and abandonment of property, and it

899
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 1: disproportionately affected over large, newly built homes. And at that

900
00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:03,239
Speaker 1: time the style of home that was popular was Victorian

901
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 1: homes like the Family, the Adams Family, the Bates House,

902
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 1: and Psycho like those houses that are basically what you

903
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 1: picture when you picture a haunted house. They were just

904
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:17,359
Speaker 1: all newly built when there was this real estate implosion

905
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 1: and so for you know, the first two decades of

906
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:26,360
Speaker 1: the twentieth century, they were being left to rot, and

907
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:29,799
Speaker 1: so everybody was like, oh, the old spooky man are

908
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:32,239
Speaker 1: on the hill. And that's where a lot of our

909
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 1: images of haunted houses come from, which well, I don't

910
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 1: know which they gave discounts.

911
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:42,799
Speaker 6: We're in a world now where there's like there's old goths,

912
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 6: Like there's old goths who were probably buying houses. You

913
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 6: can charge them more for that, right right.

914
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:51,600
Speaker 1: Right exactly, Like somebody needs to come and take the

915
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:54,879
Speaker 1: opposite side of this and be like, I can get

916
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 1: you a haunted house or like.

917
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 5: Wouldn't that just be like or in the place that

918
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:01,719
Speaker 5: has these disclosures laws, like you can just like con

919
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 5: your way into a cheaper house and like, oh, this

920
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 5: place is actually fucking haunted and they didn't say anything,

921
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:06,880
Speaker 5: so like we've got to knock the price down and

922
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:07,480
Speaker 5: this just hanted.

923
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 1: It's just haunted. I think, what this what let's call

924
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:12,759
Speaker 1: it like ten thousand? Yeah, okay, great?

925
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 6: Can I can I use that to like get out

926
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 6: of shit at an airbnb?

927
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 2: Maybe?

928
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 6: You know, like how's kind of hitting you now with

929
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:22,920
Speaker 6: the stuff where it's like, ooh, you didn't strip the

930
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 6: bed sheets. That's two hundred dollars, Like, well, it was haunted.

931
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 6: I had to run out.

932
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:29,959
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you didn't disclose. Yeah.

933
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 6: I couldn't weirdly strip the bed and load the washing

934
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:35,240
Speaker 6: machine like you want me to for some reason.

935
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:39,880
Speaker 5: So right, but I'm paying you. Okay, I'm sorry I

936
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 5: didn't I didn't separate the colors from the whites and

937
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:43,719
Speaker 5: that load that I left.

938
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:45,920
Speaker 2: Sure, yeah, I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

939
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 6: There was a towel on the towel rack anyway, Well

940
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:51,240
Speaker 6: that's haunted. I had to run out of the bathroom

941
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:52,120
Speaker 6: because now I.

942
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:53,720
Speaker 5: Have to charge you one hundred and fifty dollars cleaning

943
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 5: fee for that errand towel.

944
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:58,239
Speaker 1: Would you guys move into a haunted house. Yeah, because

945
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:01,239
Speaker 1: I don't fucking I never and that'll ok.

946
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, and I think.

947
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 6: So I think, I'm I'm I'm I'm not a ghost

948
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:06,719
Speaker 6: believer either, so I think it could be and you know,

949
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:10,479
Speaker 6: a fun story for for cocktail parties and such and.

950
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:13,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, yeah, I mean, yeah, worst case scenario, you

951
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 1: have proof that there's like some weird spiritual realm. If

952
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 1: the house is indeed haunted, you know, yeah.

953
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 2: It's like there's bigger things going on.

954
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 5: And then your life situation also when I because when

955
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 5: I was a kid, and like I remember my grandparents'

956
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:30,440
Speaker 5: house in Japan was real creaky, and.

957
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 1: Then a kid, I'm like, mom, it's ghost.

958
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:34,719
Speaker 5: It's like it's an old house and the temperature is

959
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:37,480
Speaker 5: affecting the wood, so you're hearing it's like alive, so

960
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:40,440
Speaker 5: it creaks. And I was so scared that I just

961
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:43,440
Speaker 5: held onto that for dear life to be like always dismit,

962
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:44,960
Speaker 5: like I don't give a shit now whatever I hear,

963
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:46,279
Speaker 5: I'm like, that's just the fucking house.

964
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 1: What am gonna do? This isn't some ghost shit going on.

965
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:52,880
Speaker 1: I grew up in a house, uh well next to

966
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:55,959
Speaker 1: in Dayton, Ohio. I lived next to this house where

967
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:58,920
Speaker 1: somebody had like killed themselves recently, and it was like

968
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 1: right next to the driveway where I would like shoot

969
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 1: hoops late at night, and like I was telling my

970
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 1: friend about that one time that like, yeah, right there

971
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 1: that house like that like a guy killed himself, like

972
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:14,880
Speaker 1: what our neighbor had been, Like this kid had modis

973
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 1: long and been the last one to see him. And

974
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:21,400
Speaker 1: then like the lights flickered and the like I swear

975
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:23,959
Speaker 1: to God, it was like two steps that I took

976
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:28,200
Speaker 1: before I was like in the kitchen, hiding under the table. Right.

977
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:32,279
Speaker 1: So even though I logically don't believe in ghosts, I

978
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:36,759
Speaker 1: also recognize my ability to. Like one of the explanations

979
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 1: is like people have like unconscious open, like open unconscious minds,

980
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:43,960
Speaker 1: and I feel like I have a mind that is

981
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:46,920
Speaker 1: like willing to just yeah, I don't let anything in

982
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:48,920
Speaker 1: because I don't doubt stupid.

983
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 5: I don't doubt when people are like this wild shit happened,

984
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:53,799
Speaker 5: Like I told, perception is reality. Sure, I just know

985
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 5: my mind is totally closed off to that shit. So yeah,

986
00:48:57,200 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 5: I'm I think I just I've shut down the channel

987
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 5: that wouldn't maybe even perceive that, maybe because I'm so scared. Yeah,

988
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:05,920
Speaker 5: you know, and that's why, because ghosts are story.

989
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 1: I don't know. And then when I told my parents,

990
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 1: you know, I was out there shooting baskets with my

991
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:12,160
Speaker 1: neighbor Fred and like this happened, they were.

992
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:14,239
Speaker 2: Like, Jack, Fred died three years old.

993
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:15,759
Speaker 1: Fuck, you're not.

994
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:18,840
Speaker 2: Oh my god, Basketball? Who burned down?

995
00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:21,120
Speaker 1: Ago?

996
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:23,399
Speaker 2: What were you throwing the ball at?

997
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:25,720
Speaker 1: Just have a pile of ashes in my hand?

998
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:30,280
Speaker 2: Me your mom? I passed away.

999
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 1: I'm not here. This story is not really holding together, guys.

1000
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 1: This is an even Dayton Ohio. This is a Bubba

1001
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 1: Gump shrimp code. All right, that's gonna do it for

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Speaker 1: this week's weekly Zeitgeist. Please like and review the show

1003
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Speaker 2: Folks.

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Speaker 1: I hope you're having a great weekend and I will

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Speaker 1: talk to you Monday. Bye.