1 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 1: Welcome back to another episode of American Gravy, the only 2 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:09,720 Speaker 1: show where we mix food, family, and freedom in the 3 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 1: same pot and somehow don't burn it. 4 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 2: Well, you burned it a little bit last week. I'm 5 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 2: not gonna lie burn me. I got burned. We're talking food, family, freedom. Well, 6 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 2: you know what, though, nothing says liberty like a full 7 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:24,760 Speaker 2: plate and a clean conscience. Right, Oh, there we go. 8 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 1: I'm chef Andrew Girl, I'm Lauren Grul. 9 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 2: Today we're going to be talking about gosh, a lot 10 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 2: of different stuff, and thank you all for tuning in again. 11 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 2: This is an absolute honor to even have you out 12 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:36,879 Speaker 2: there listening. Let's dive in quickly right off the bat here, 13 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:39,199 Speaker 2: because we got a lot to cover today, you know, 14 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 2: and the most probably pressing issue I think that's been 15 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:46,159 Speaker 2: in the food news or generally in the news, has 16 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 2: been the expiration or the SNAP benefit issue, because Americans 17 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 2: are facing cuts to this SNAP stands for this supplemental 18 00:00:55,480 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 2: nutrition assistance program sometimes it's known as food stamps, but 19 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 2: beginning November first, unless funding is restored, which, minds you. 20 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 2: The reason why funding hasn't been restored is because there 21 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 2: is a federal government shutdown. The Democrats and the Republicans 22 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 2: are unable to come to a consensus as to how 23 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:17,679 Speaker 2: they're going to restart the government. I didn't even know 24 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:18,679 Speaker 2: the government was shut down. 25 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:21,559 Speaker 1: I didn't know. I mean, if you if we didn't, 26 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:24,040 Speaker 1: if we didn't know, we wouldn't know, you know what 27 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 1: I mean. 28 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:28,039 Speaker 2: I know that's probably a bigger conversation. But more specifically, 29 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:31,040 Speaker 2: you've got these uh snap benefits that are going to 30 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 2: expire on November first, because people get them on the 31 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 2: first of the month. So this has created a lot 32 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 2: of debate, if you will, as to not just the 33 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 2: efficacy of the program, but the details for the first 34 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 2: time ever. And I've noticed that when these issues pop 35 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 2: up in the news, people instantaneously learn about them. I 36 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 2: always make the joke that on like X or social media, right, Like, 37 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 2: let's say that there was a debate about you know, 38 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 2: a levy in in you know, a coastal city, Suddenly 39 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 2: everybody's a levy expert. Right, if it's taxes or tax codes, 40 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 2: suddenly everybody's a CPA. Well this week, everyone is now 41 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 2: an expert on food nutritional assistance programs. But I always 42 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 2: think it's a good thing when these issues come about 43 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 2: because people do learn more detail in regards to the program, 44 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:21,800 Speaker 2: and naturally it's going to be very bureaucratic, but I 45 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:23,919 Speaker 2: think that there's some high level details that we can 46 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:27,360 Speaker 2: cover in this conversation to make it more relevant to 47 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 2: those of you listening. The most important one is the 48 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 2: sheer quantity. 49 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 1: Well, I didn't realize and like you said, I mean, 50 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 1: people really don't do their research until it becomes a headline, right, 51 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 1: So I didn't realize that it's this cost one hundred 52 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 1: billion dollars a year. 53 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:48,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, one hundred billion. One hundred billion in food assistance 54 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:50,959 Speaker 2: goes out every single year in the form of food 55 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 2: snamps and vouchers. 56 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 1: Right, But can you touch on where part of that 57 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:56,520 Speaker 1: money goes to? 58 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, and this is an area in which I've been 59 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 2: kind of leaning into. Is is the fact that Snap 60 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 2: benefits ten percent of the one hundred billion, Right, So 61 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:09,360 Speaker 2: ten billion dollars are spent on third party delivery apps. 62 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 2: I don't think people realize that. I didn't realize that. 63 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 2: So you actually can go and buy any meal, not 64 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 2: any meal, right, Like there's certain limitations, but the majority 65 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:24,080 Speaker 2: of restaurants and food service outlets food delivery. They'll offer 66 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 2: the opportunity to use your snap benefits, which is really 67 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 2: just a debit card that you put in there onto 68 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 2: the app. Whether it's door Dash, Uber Eats, it's primarily DoorDash, 69 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 2: Uber Eats, and Amazon. 70 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 1: And we already have an issue with the third party delivery. 71 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 2: Well, yes, so I do. Yeah, I'm biased here. I'm 72 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 2: tainted because I don't like the third party delivery apps 73 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 2: because of the amount of money that they take, because 74 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 2: of the way in which the system with the third 75 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 2: party delivery apps are manipulated by the users. You know, 76 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 2: there's like an entire thread on Reddit that you can 77 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 2: use to learn how you can basically work the restaurants 78 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 2: and work this system, everything from utilizing photoshop to make 79 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 2: it look like the food was undercooked to pretending like 80 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 2: the food was never delivered. And what people don't realize 81 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 2: is that we know this from the restaurant side, is 82 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 2: that the restaurants pay for that. Yeah, the DoorDash delivery 83 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 2: or the Uber eats doesn't pay for that. So that's 84 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 2: number one. Number two, So I look this up basically 85 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:20,160 Speaker 2: what you do? I thought, Oh my gosh, So then 86 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 2: those excessive delivery fees, is that the tips too? How 87 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 2: does that money get allocated so you can use your 88 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 2: food stamps, or you can use the EBT to buy 89 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 2: a monthly pass on the delivery dash apps, and in 90 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 2: that monthly pass waives the delivery fees, so you're not 91 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 2: you're technically paying for the delivery fees, but you're not 92 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:44,039 Speaker 2: paying it per order. And then after that, any tip 93 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 2: that you give, you do have to you cannot use 94 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:49,600 Speaker 2: the EBT benefits, so you would have to use your 95 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 2: own debit card. Now I find that interesting because there 96 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 2: has been a huge kind of sector of social media 97 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 2: of DoorDash and third probably delivery drivers who complain about 98 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 2: not getting tipped. And now I realized because I used 99 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:04,280 Speaker 2: to think to myself, why doesn't anybody get tipped? Well, 100 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 2: that's why is because if you're buying and you're utilizing 101 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 2: the benefits, you can't tip. So they're not tipping because 102 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:12,040 Speaker 2: they're not going to right, they're using it because they 103 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 2: don't have the money. So it doesn't surprise me that 104 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:17,839 Speaker 2: they're not tipping. But once again, door dash or the 105 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 2: third party apps are getting ten billion dollars in federal subsidies. 106 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 1: And what is DoorDash, what are they making like annually 107 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 1: what did you. 108 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:29,920 Speaker 2: Say, DoorDash makes ten billion dollars annually, right, So I'm 109 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 2: not so if ten billion goes towards the third party 110 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:34,719 Speaker 2: delivery apps, that it's going to be spread across Amazon, 111 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 2: Uber Eats, Door Dash and what would it Postmates? Oh No, 112 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 2: I don't think does it Postmates even exist anymore? By 113 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:44,599 Speaker 2: US postal service. So let's just assume that it's like 114 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 2: Amazon Fresh and also Amazon generally because you could buy 115 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 2: like canned goods, et cetera. So let's just say it's 116 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 2: twenty five percent to DoorDash alone, then that would be 117 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 2: two point five billion dollars that goes to DoorDash. Ten 118 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:58,799 Speaker 2: billion dollars is their annual sales. So twenty five percent 119 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 2: of their annual sales comes from federal subsidies. 120 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 1: Which I don't think anybody realizes. I didn't realize it 121 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 1: until you brought it up to me. Yeah, I didn't 122 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:10,160 Speaker 1: even think that was the thing. That you're allowed to 123 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:14,160 Speaker 1: use these snap EBT benefits on food delivery. 124 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:16,600 Speaker 2: And we're speculating on these numbers, but it's definitely in 125 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:18,600 Speaker 2: the billion dollar range, Like it might go a little 126 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:20,479 Speaker 2: more to one and a little bit more to the other. One. 127 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 2: But if you think about that, that's actually we think 128 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 2: about it as, oh, well, the people who are struggling, 129 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 2: you know, should they be on these benefits, and they're 130 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 2: taking advantage of the system. But now flip all the 131 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 2: way up to the top side, and you've got corporate welfare. 132 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 2: So it's actually it's hitting the very very top and 133 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 2: it's hitting the very very bottom. And who's paying for 134 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 2: it the middle class, the lower middle class. I mean, 135 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 2: that's coming out of our tax dollars. So I think 136 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 2: that that's an interesting spin to this conversation that otherwise 137 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 2: nobody would have known about. And I imagine, actually, well 138 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 2: I know, and I can speculate with certainty that during 139 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:55,720 Speaker 2: the pandemic, which was a time in which they were 140 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 2: significantly increasing the amount of benefits that people were getting, 141 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:02,360 Speaker 2: that third par delivery blew up, and by way of 142 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 2: their sales blowing up, their valuations blow up. And when 143 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:07,239 Speaker 2: their valuations blow up, it creates a bubble in the market. 144 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 2: So let's just assume that there's a gridlocker and kind 145 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 2: of a standstill on a go forward basis, and we 146 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 2: go two, three, four, even five weeks longer where they're 147 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 2: not getting these benefits. That's two point five billion dollars. 148 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 2: Let's break that down divided by twelve, that's effectively what 149 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 2: two hundred million dollars a month in sales that each 150 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 2: one of them are going to lose. 151 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, so what do you like? What are your thoughts 152 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 1: on you know, these snap ebt benefits, like, what are 153 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 1: your thoughts on them being able to use them for 154 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 1: like a third party. 155 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 2: I think that this this scenario in which they should 156 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 2: be able to use it for third party delivery, is 157 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 2: they is if they're disabled, if they can't get out, 158 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 2: they can't get to the stores. I firmly believe that 159 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 2: there should be a separate delivery system for this, and 160 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 2: they should get a set amount of goods in like 161 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 2: a box, you know, like a butcher box or you know, 162 00:07:57,440 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 2: canned goods and beans and rice, et cetera, and those 163 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 2: should be delivered. I don't think that people should be 164 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 2: ordering from restaurants because and I shouldn't say that because 165 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 2: as restaurant owners, both of us, that would help us 166 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 2: be great to get an extra five hundred thousand dollars 167 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 2: a year. But I don't fundamentally think that that's right, 168 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 2: and we do this right so we're giving away. I mean, 169 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 2: we give away probably fifty thousand dollars retail value of 170 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 2: food a year to those who need it, those who 171 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 2: are struggling, even seniors, especially in the Huntington Beach, Orange 172 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 2: County area, who are trying to break that cycle of homelessness, 173 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 2: or just people who are struggling day to day. We 174 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 2: did it with the fires last year. We're doing our 175 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 2: Shared a Table program, which is every single Monday. If 176 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:34,599 Speaker 2: the government came to me and said we're going to 177 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 2: write you a check for that, I wouldn't accept it 178 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 2: because we have private donations as well as we do 179 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:43,320 Speaker 2: it as a business. We contribute as a business towards 180 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 2: helping that. I don't need the taxpayer dollars because I 181 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 2: think that then you have a conflict of interest, right. 182 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:50,959 Speaker 1: And you know it's crazy too, Okay. So I mean 183 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:55,439 Speaker 1: the rumors are on TikTok that come November first, if 184 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 1: they don't have their benefits, that they will start looting 185 00:08:58,840 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 1: grocery stores. 186 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:01,960 Speaker 2: I know that's been all over TikTok. There's been this 187 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 2: TikTok trend where they're going to loose the grocery stores 188 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 2: and they're going to turn it the places upside down. 189 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 2: I mean, that's absolutely absurd. 190 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 1: It doesn't make this is I never will understand you're 191 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:14,199 Speaker 1: angry and yet you want to destroy something that's not. 192 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 2: Yours or something that's there too. But also then. 193 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:19,440 Speaker 1: Other people, right exactly, but other people who would go 194 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 1: to the grocery store and just shop like they're like 195 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 1: what you know what I mean, Yeah, it just doesn't 196 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 1: sit right with me. 197 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:27,440 Speaker 2: Ever, Well, and let's just break this down to its 198 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 2: basic bare bones. I don't think that anyone out there 199 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 2: wants to see somebody hungry and not be able to 200 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 2: survive and not be able to you know, we've talked 201 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 2: about the limitations on these programs and being really just 202 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:39,680 Speaker 2: a catalyst to get somebody to the next level, and 203 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 2: we've seen the ability to bridge struggle gaps with all 204 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:46,560 Speaker 2: these various public programs. I do think that churches and 205 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 2: faith based organizations and independent nonprofits that are people contribute 206 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 2: money to get tax incentives to do so. I think 207 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 2: that's a good program. Look at the food banks nowadays, right, so, 208 00:09:56,559 --> 00:09:59,080 Speaker 2: the food banks are gearing up for this November first date. 209 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 2: I think that's a great I think there's going to 210 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 2: be a ton of options. I will tell you if 211 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 2: the food banks go dry after this, right, let's say that, 212 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:09,680 Speaker 2: and the food banks go absolutely dry, I will be 213 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 2: the first person to say, we need to figure out 214 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 2: a way to backfill those food banks so that we 215 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 2: can help people. But I guarantee the food banks are 216 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 2: not going to go dry because the problem is that 217 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 2: the way these subsidies needs incentives are set up is 218 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:24,199 Speaker 2: to help the big soda companies, you know, to help 219 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:26,559 Speaker 2: the big food manufacturers because a lot of what these 220 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 2: people are getting is junk. Yeah, and that's part of 221 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 2: the irony here. There was a lady who was testifying 222 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 2: yesterday about how she was going to go hungry, and 223 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:35,679 Speaker 2: she was, you know, her family was going to go 224 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 2: hungry because they weren't going to be able to extend 225 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:40,200 Speaker 2: the emergency program for the SNAP benefits. And the lady, 226 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 2: I hate to say it, she was morbidly obese. And 227 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 2: the comments were pretty rude in the comments section because 228 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:46,719 Speaker 2: it was like, she's not going to go hungry, she's 229 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 2: so obese. But what people don't realize is that you 230 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 2: can actually be obese, but you can still be like 231 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 2: nutritionally deficient. 232 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:56,560 Speaker 1: Well, especially if they're eating you know food that are 233 00:10:56,840 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 1: that aren't nutrient dense. 234 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 2: Exactly, and none of these foods are nutrient dense. And 235 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 2: that's the problem is is that a lot of these programs, 236 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 2: these these snap benefits into foodstamp programs, have perpetuated obesity 237 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:11,680 Speaker 2: because when you look at who's funding and lobbying to 238 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:15,320 Speaker 2: continue the foodstamp programs and the subsidy programs are the 239 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 2: soda companies themselves. They are the massive food manufacturers. So 240 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 2: when there was talk about removing soda from food stamps, 241 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:24,840 Speaker 2: generally on a state level, the soda lobbyist came in 242 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 2: and was throwing out five, ten, fifteen thousand dollars to 243 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 2: influencers to start pushing the messaging that it's a freedom 244 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 2: of choice and that we should be able to buy 245 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:34,840 Speaker 2: soda if we want, and why are we punishing people 246 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 2: because they make their money. 247 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 1: It's also it's like a dedicated scam. 248 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. So if I could take this entire program and 249 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 2: turn it upside down right now, give me like twenty 250 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:47,559 Speaker 2: mayors across the country to pilot this in cities. I 251 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:50,440 Speaker 2: would set up a program where everybody got a pressure cooker, 252 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:53,320 Speaker 2: they got beans, they got rice, they got you know, 253 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 2: underutilized cuts of meat from local farmers, local ranchers, and 254 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 2: then there was a program or a council of chefs 255 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 2: that actually helped the tea each these people how to 256 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:05,079 Speaker 2: cook it themselves. Really give them the fishing pole, and 257 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 2: we make sure that we get them the right foods. 258 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 2: We can help the ranchers and we can help the 259 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:10,960 Speaker 2: local food producers themselves, and I think that that's a 260 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 2: much better closed. 261 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 1: Loop setince I feel like to I mean, to these 262 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:17,319 Speaker 1: people's credit. I guess a lot of people don't know 263 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:18,199 Speaker 1: how to cook anymore. 264 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 2: They don't. That's another problem. 265 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 1: They don't know how to cook. So you know, the 266 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:24,320 Speaker 1: easiest thing is to get the door dash. 267 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:26,439 Speaker 2: Yeah you know what I mean. So, well, yeah, we're 268 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 2: I don't know we are. We have gotten pretty lazy 269 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 2: just generally speaking in society. But I think that's a 270 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 2: good segue into our second story because here in Los Angeles, 271 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 2: the nonprofit Crop Swap La is actually reclaiming underutilized front 272 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 2: yards and I think this is also in urban areas. 273 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 2: So I think it's going to be for like underutilized 274 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:47,960 Speaker 2: development areas, and they're going to encourage people to grow 275 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 2: fresh produce for local distribution. 276 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 1: I love this so much. 277 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 2: I'm shocked at LA because one of the reasons why 278 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 2: I'm shocked is that the regulatory framework with city council 279 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 2: and with ordinances through Loss Angels and the surrounding suburbs 280 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 2: is that you can't grow produce in your yards, right, Like, 281 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:08,080 Speaker 2: there's so many restrictions on that. So if they're using 282 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 2: this nonprofit as a vehicle through which they can actually 283 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 2: deregulate and allow people to grow produce and then establish 284 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 2: a secondary market whereby they can sell this produce to 285 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 2: vendors and to neighbors or even give it to food banks. 286 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 1: I love this. And he also said so the founder 287 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:26,960 Speaker 1: of the organization said that he hopes to improve diets 288 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 1: and people's health. Like that's great, you know what I mean. 289 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 1: I just I think all around this is a great. 290 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 2: Thing, especially coming out of Los Angeles, and it should. 291 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 1: Be you know, kind of implemented across the country. 292 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:40,960 Speaker 2: Well that's the whole point. I mean, it's truly nonpartisans 293 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:43,960 Speaker 2: so taking this hyper hyper local. One of the first 294 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:45,680 Speaker 2: things that I did when I was on city council 295 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 2: in Huntington Beach was we got a plot of land 296 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 2: up by the old Navy rail yard and it's empty 297 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:53,439 Speaker 2: right now, and we're establishing a community garden there. We're 298 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:57,320 Speaker 2: going to be utilizing aquaculture and aquaponics programs. We're going 299 00:13:57,360 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 2: to have community plots for people to grow their own vegetables. 300 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 2: We're gonna have larger plots where we can hopefully produce enough, 301 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:05,679 Speaker 2: not necessarily on a commercial side, but enough to bring 302 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 2: back over to our Navigation Center, which is our homeless shelter. 303 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:10,680 Speaker 2: And we're going to do it all locally. And the 304 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 2: idea is if we can take that program and we 305 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 2: can scale it out into other areas in Orange County, 306 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:17,719 Speaker 2: people see how easy it is. We set up the 307 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 2: framework and say it's going to cost X amount of dollars. 308 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 2: Here's the manpower you're gonna need, here's the number of 309 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 2: volunteers you're gonna need, here's the supplies you're gonna need. 310 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 2: I mean, it's almost a franchise. Then we can get 311 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 2: other cities to do that. But the disconnect, and you 312 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 2: brought this up a second ago, is Okay, we grow 313 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 2: the produce, we get the fresh vegetables, proteins, et cetera. 314 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 2: What it is, who's cooking it? 315 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, and we have to start to I mean, that's 316 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 1: what we did with the Army. Remember, we taught young 317 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 1: soldiers how to cook. They didn't know how to cook. 318 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 2: Laurna and I went around with the US Army as 319 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 2: part of their program in twenty nineteen that they had 320 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 2: started was with BOSS, which was better opportunities for single soldiers, 321 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 2: and the Army realized that and ultimately the Department of 322 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 2: Defense is that they invest I want to say, the 323 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 2: number is like three hundred thousand dollar a soldier. 324 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 1: It's a lot. 325 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 2: And by the time they were combat ready, they're not 326 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 2: combat ready because they're obese, or they have diabetes, or 327 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 2: they have one of these many chronic disease and then 328 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 2: they're they're basically it's a I don't want to trivialize 329 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 2: it and say it's a wasted investment, but it is 330 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 2: because now they can work, you know, sitting behind the desk, 331 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 2: but they're not able to go out airborne division, et cetera. 332 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 2: So what they wanted us to do was to teach 333 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 2: soldiers how to cook, utilizing a hot plate in the 334 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 2: barracks and buying from the exchange and teaching them actually 335 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 2: how to shop. And what was fascinating about that is 336 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 2: most of the soldiers eighteen nineteen twenty years old had 337 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 2: zero idea. They couldn't even turn, they couldn't even hold 338 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 2: a pan. They had absolutely no idea how to eat. 339 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 2: And they were telling us that their dorms or in 340 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 2: the barracks are just littered with Burger King, Taco Bell, 341 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 2: you name it. And when we would go into the 342 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 2: exchange or the like the food halls that were associated 343 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 2: with it, it was all the soldiers. None of them were 344 00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 2: going into the grocery area. They were all just going 345 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 2: to the Burger Kings, the Taco L's, the McDonald's, the World. 346 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 1: Camera, and the grocery store had great stores were undelie products, 347 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 1: like really high quality, and I was shocked that nobody 348 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 1: was in their shopping. 349 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, we were at Schoenberg out in Hawaii, and remember 350 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 2: they had like the mussabi and they had a whole 351 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 2: bunch of Japanese products. It was actually it was like 352 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 2: a better grocery store than you would find in Barne 353 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 2: County or southern California. It was an amped up pavilions. 354 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 2: So that was kind of eye opening. Unfortunately, the pandemic 355 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 2: hit and of course they didn't really put any funding 356 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 2: into that program. Perhaps we can push all the way 357 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 2: up through the system, I. 358 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 1: Will say, just talking about COVID, I will say, remember 359 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 1: everyone went through like a gardening phase, like we even did, 360 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 1: and the kids were so proud. We had like zucchini 361 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 1: and radishes and strawberries and squash. We had all sorts 362 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 1: of things at our house because we were all of 363 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 1: us were bored. We were just like, let's plan a card. 364 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, well we were also we were still working at restaurants. 365 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 1: Well we were working the restaurant, but our kids were home, 366 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 1: so we did you know, they needed them to care 367 00:16:57,760 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 1: for something. 368 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 2: Oh shoot, I left them out on the roof. Yeah 369 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 2: all right, what else you got for me here? Today? 370 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:04,639 Speaker 2: We're getting into Thanksgiving. 371 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:06,120 Speaker 1: Season, we are. I love Thanksgiving. 372 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 2: I do. I you know, this is weird and I 373 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 2: don't want to sound like a communist, but not. I 374 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:14,159 Speaker 2: love Thanksgiving. I absolutely love it. But being in a 375 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:16,679 Speaker 2: restaurant industry, it's like go go, go, go go all 376 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 2: the way up until the day before Thanksgiving. Wednesday's actually 377 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:23,359 Speaker 2: the Wednesday in the restaurant industry. The Wednesday before Thanksgiving 378 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:24,640 Speaker 2: is always a really busy day. 379 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:27,399 Speaker 1: Is it because people are celebrating Thanksgiving. 380 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:29,440 Speaker 2: That day, or like people coming to people come into town, 381 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 2: catch up with old friends. Yeah, get wasted, go to restaurants. 382 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 1: That's true. 383 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:36,159 Speaker 2: You know that was always like the biggest year in bars. 384 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:37,880 Speaker 2: I remember in the town in which I grew up, 385 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:40,200 Speaker 2: because it was like everyone was coming back and having 386 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 2: this quasi reunion over at Frank's Chicken House. 387 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:47,359 Speaker 1: So Andrew doesn't like turkey, I don't. 388 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 2: It's not that I don't like turkey. 389 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:50,360 Speaker 1: You don't like turkey. 390 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:52,640 Speaker 2: I mean I like the dark meat. I just don't 391 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 2: like the way in which we traditionally treat turkey. It's 392 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:58,680 Speaker 2: the centerpiece of the table, but nobody puts the time 393 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 2: into cooking it properly, so you get you get overcooked 394 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 2: breasts and sometimes undercooked legs. Story in my life. Hey, 395 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 2: I don't even know what that means. But and it's 396 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 2: it's like, I don't know. I just think that some 397 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:17,200 Speaker 2: of the items sometimes turkey dinners can be the turkey's dry, 398 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 2: so use a ton of gravy. The gravy's gloppy because 399 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 2: a lot of people don't know how to cook gravy, 400 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:23,320 Speaker 2: and then you get all these sides. But they're like 401 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 2: overly sweet. I don't know what this move in, this 402 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 2: motivation has been over the past twenty or thirty years 403 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:27,879 Speaker 2: to make it. 404 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:30,119 Speaker 1: You hate my sweet. 405 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:33,480 Speaker 2: I don't like marshmallows on sweet teles. I think they're 406 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:35,399 Speaker 2: too sweet. It's like, we need to maple sugar, and 407 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 2: we need to seyrup, and we need to sugar again, 408 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:39,439 Speaker 2: and we need to marshmallows, and let's put some chocolate 409 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:42,879 Speaker 2: chips in there, like I want. If we're gonna have 410 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 2: this savory, rich food like I want, I want bright acids, 411 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:48,399 Speaker 2: I want bright flavors. 412 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 1: Do a good job with that. You make a killer 413 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:52,439 Speaker 1: cranberry sauce. 414 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 2: I do, But people are like, I remember I posted 415 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 2: our recipe for our cranberry sauce, which is fresh cranberries 416 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 2: and a lot of vinegars, red wine vinegar. We use 417 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 2: a little bit of honey to sweetening it off, but 418 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 2: a ton of fresh herbs and there and spices and cinnamons, 419 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 2: et cetera. So you get this incredibly warm, herbaceous, vibrant 420 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:12,359 Speaker 2: cranberry sauce and everyone's like, what the heck is that? 421 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 1: But is that? I like it from the can? 422 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:17,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, it just just just slopping out of the can. 423 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 1: And do you call stuffing dressing or do you call 424 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 1: it stuffing? 425 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:24,960 Speaker 2: I call it stuffing dressing. That's like perverted bed staste. 426 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:28,199 Speaker 1: You said something was it last year on X And 427 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 1: I said, Oh, Stuffing's my favorite And they're like, what 428 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:32,159 Speaker 1: do you mean stuffing? It's called dressing. 429 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 2: And I'm like, what, well do you call Do you 430 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:36,479 Speaker 2: called tomato sauce, gravy or sauce? 431 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:38,639 Speaker 1: Tomato sauce? 432 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, like red sauce. You call it gravy or sauce. 433 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 2: It's Sunday gravy on the East Coast, that's the Italian 434 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 2: Sunday gravy. 435 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 1: It's just a tomato sauce. 436 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, it's gravy. Lauren, speaking of gravy, So, 437 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 2: turkey gravy is one of my favorite things because it's 438 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 2: so gamey and it's so rich. But you gotta make 439 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 2: your own turkey grat fresh. 440 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:02,439 Speaker 1: And it's easy. Do you have a video on that? 441 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:03,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, we did a video on it last year, The 442 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 2: Perfect Turkey Gravy. 443 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:06,639 Speaker 1: All right, we got to show that again. 444 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:09,440 Speaker 2: We will show it again. Well, remember you use chicken feet? 445 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:11,920 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that was disgusting. He was like throwing them 446 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:12,440 Speaker 1: in my face. 447 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:15,200 Speaker 2: The key to a good turkey gravy is you want 448 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:17,439 Speaker 2: a ton of gelatin in there. The gelatin is what 449 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 2: gives it in collagen, right, It gives it that silky 450 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 2: not the collagen you put on your face. 451 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 1: I don't put collage out on my face, the. 452 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:26,679 Speaker 2: Little collagen cream, what have you. It's what gives it 453 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 2: that rich and silky mouthfeel and flavor that's just unctuous 454 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:33,160 Speaker 2: and new mommy like and addictive. The way in which 455 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 2: you get extra gelatin, you know, you're using the backs 456 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:37,680 Speaker 2: and using the bones and the leg bones. There's a 457 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 2: lot of gelatin in there in the joints, but you 458 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 2: get it from the chicken feet. So you go to 459 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 2: an agent market and you buy a bunch of chicken feet. 460 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:44,480 Speaker 2: That's what you gotta do. 461 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:47,719 Speaker 1: Okay, that's a good tip, But also it's kind of scary. 462 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 1: Just be forewarned if you haven't seen chicken feet, it's 463 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:50,639 Speaker 1: a little scary. 464 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 2: We were putting chicken feet like under the kid's pillows 465 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 2: and they were waking. 466 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 1: Up in the middle of the night's screaming, well, they're 467 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 1: so creepy, Like after. 468 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 2: I blanch them, don't worry. It wasn't like raw chicken. 469 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:01,359 Speaker 2: The kids weren't sleeping on salt, sleeping on salmonella. 470 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:02,879 Speaker 1: All right, Andrew, what the fork? 471 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, McDonald's is debuting a tie green curry 472 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 2: chicken and fish burger in Malaysia, which, by the way, 473 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 2: what the fork? Wtf? 474 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 1: What the fork? Okay, I'm not well you you're not 475 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:18,679 Speaker 1: a big fan of curry. I don't necessarily hate it 476 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 1: as much as you do, but like this just doesn't 477 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 1: scream anything exciting for me, Like I wouldn't want to 478 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 1: go out and want to try that. 479 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:27,880 Speaker 2: I don't have a motivation to eat fish. At McDonald's. 480 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:31,440 Speaker 2: People love the fish fileg they do absolutely love it, yes, 481 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 2: and to me, and it comes with cheese on, Like 482 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:36,120 Speaker 2: cheese and fish to me is disgusting. I'll eat cheese 483 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 2: and shellfish because shellfish is said, shesh, change that chawfish? Yeah, well, 484 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 2: what's one of our number one sellers, the lobsterales? 485 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I'm sorry. I was thinking of like shrimp. 486 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:50,399 Speaker 2: You wouldn't put okay, you wouldn't have a case of 487 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:51,920 Speaker 2: dea with black and shrimp and a little bit of 488 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:52,400 Speaker 2: cheese on. 489 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:54,640 Speaker 1: There Okay, yes see, you're right, turning her. 490 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:56,880 Speaker 2: Upside down inside out. You going to show you guys 491 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 2: what it's all about. 492 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 1: Oh gosh. 493 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 2: So the thing is is that I get it, and 494 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 2: this is a one off, and this is in Malaysia 495 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 2: and they have totally different palettes. But what I see 496 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 2: here in my problem, it's not the McDonald's sandwich. Okay. 497 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:13,880 Speaker 2: McDonald's is the conduit through which they try and enter 498 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 2: food trends into the mainstream. And you know what I 499 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:19,400 Speaker 2: don't like about this? What the curry. 500 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 1: You don't like curry. 501 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:24,199 Speaker 2: I don't like curry, not because I don't like good curry. 502 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 2: I think people don't understand that curry is complicated. It's 503 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 2: a multifaceted flavor. There's green curry, there's red curry, there's 504 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:34,159 Speaker 2: mattress curry, there's dry curry. There's curry and coconut soups. 505 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:37,439 Speaker 2: There's so many different ways to use curry. But people 506 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:39,480 Speaker 2: just see curry and they dump it on everything. It's 507 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 2: an overwhelming flavor. 508 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 1: It is. It's very overpowering. 509 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 2: It is. So if you don't cook it properly, you 510 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:47,960 Speaker 2: don't just add curry to something. 511 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 1: You have to be very careful. 512 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:51,439 Speaker 2: It's like you learn if you learn to drive, you 513 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:55,160 Speaker 2: know how to drive basic right with an automatic. If 514 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:57,880 Speaker 2: you then step into a stick shift Ferrari or sports car, 515 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 2: like that's a specialty car. You got be specific in 516 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:03,399 Speaker 2: how the way in which you drive that Curry is 517 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:07,199 Speaker 2: the Ferrari sports car of spices and seasonings. You have 518 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 2: to know what you're doing. So I think there's something 519 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 2: nefarious behind this. I think McDonald's is going to try 520 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:14,360 Speaker 2: and roll curry out all over the place, let's hope. 521 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 2: Not speaking of something to Farius. Do you know that 522 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 2: I saw a news headline just this morning. We didn't 523 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:21,400 Speaker 2: talk about this one. You're gonna be surprising everybody. Lauren's 524 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:23,879 Speaker 2: gonna cut me behind the scenes afterwards, she said, we 525 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 2: didn't go over that one. So in San Diego, they 526 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:30,879 Speaker 2: are teaching in elementary schools this there's this program that 527 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:33,919 Speaker 2: bugs are good to eat if not better, meat is 528 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,399 Speaker 2: bad for you, and that it's healthy to eat bugs 529 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 2: and bugs are the protein of the future. 530 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 1: And who San Diego like element. 531 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:44,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, in the school systems, And we've talked about this 532 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:46,439 Speaker 2: at length in the past. I have a major problem 533 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 2: with like consuming bugs because well it's pretty obvious, right, 534 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:52,920 Speaker 2: it's intuitive. I shouldn't even have to explain this one. 535 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 1: No part of me like instinctually wants to like eat 536 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 1: a bug. 537 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:59,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. The other day I swalled an antid we have 538 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 2: eaten ants. There's a grasshoppers. I like, Okay, I don't 539 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 2: like it. That was more novelty, Like I don't like 540 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 2: grasshoppers or crickets or any of that. But we did. 541 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 2: We went to a bar in New York City. It 542 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:11,679 Speaker 2: was a bar based out of like Mexico City, and 543 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:13,879 Speaker 2: they do this thing where they do like roasted salt 544 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:15,200 Speaker 2: and ants around the rim. 545 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 1: Of like yeah, like your drinks or your shots or whatever. 546 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:19,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, and we we did it. 547 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 1: I couldn't do it. I mean I would like I 548 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 1: had maybe a lick. 549 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 2: And they weren't like carpenter ants. They didn't have like, 550 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 2: you know, big old tails on them. These were just 551 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:30,720 Speaker 2: like little farm raised ants. I'm hoping they were farm raised. 552 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 2: I hope they didn't just get them from back behind 553 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 2: the restaurant. 554 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:33,439 Speaker 1: You never know. 555 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I did feel weird the next day, but that 556 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 2: could have been the roofie. 557 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:39,119 Speaker 1: He slipped himself. 558 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:42,400 Speaker 2: I have roofed myself before. I did roofy myself once 559 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 2: because I was curious what it was. Like I was 560 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:47,359 Speaker 2: in college. I'm like, what is it? You know everybody 561 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 2: talks about roofies. I'm like, what's it? Like? What's scariest 562 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:51,120 Speaker 2: is that I actually got hold. 563 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 1: On You really roofed yourself somebody. 564 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:57,919 Speaker 2: We have never somebody gave me to. Somebody was like, 565 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:00,240 Speaker 2: this is a roofie, and I didn't want somebody to 566 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:01,919 Speaker 2: give it to like a girl or take it. And 567 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 2: jokingly I took it and. 568 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:04,879 Speaker 1: I just throw it in the tweet. 569 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 2: I took it. But all I know is I woke 570 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:09,159 Speaker 2: up at like four thirty in the morning behind a 571 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:12,639 Speaker 2: Denny's with my pants were around my ankles, and I 572 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:14,880 Speaker 2: would but I was I was eating the moon's over 573 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 2: my hammy. 574 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:16,719 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. 575 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 2: Andrew, Okay, that's not true, but just want to make 576 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 2: everybody lighting up here. It's not that light. That's not funny. 577 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 2: But the second area in which we've eaten bugs is 578 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:28,920 Speaker 2: uh Lupitas, which is a great restaurant in San Jose 579 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 2: and Cabo in Mexico, and they have like a little apatarz. 580 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:34,879 Speaker 2: You get like a wooden bowl of roasted grasshoppers. And 581 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:37,680 Speaker 2: then they've got some Chilian lime seasoning on there. Oh yeah, 582 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 2: we got it for the kids because we thought it'd 583 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:39,639 Speaker 2: be funny. 584 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 1: Right they tried it. 585 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, they ate it. 586 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 1: Our kids they. 587 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 2: Will our kids will eat absolutely. If I was like, hey, 588 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:47,359 Speaker 2: here's a you know, a stick that I found in 589 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:50,480 Speaker 2: the street and we bread it, try it and tried it, 590 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,960 Speaker 2: They're like, our kids are animals, all right, what are we? 591 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 2: Eighty sixteen today? Eighty six it get rid of it. 592 00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:58,200 Speaker 2: No more no moss. 593 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:03,879 Speaker 1: For me. It is e bikes for kids. I cannot 594 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 1: stand the e bikes. I'm turning into one of those people. 595 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 1: Because the other day I was driving it was pitch black, 596 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 1: it was dark. It was like seven o'clock, you know, 597 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 1: in the sunsetting early. This group of like maybe six 598 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:20,680 Speaker 1: or I was gonna say six seven, six seven. These 599 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:22,960 Speaker 1: kids just come out onto the street and like a 600 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 1: main street, they're not in the bike lane. They're in 601 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:28,639 Speaker 1: the street doing wheelies and all this crazy stuff. In 602 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:30,439 Speaker 1: my head, I'm like, what if what are these kids? 603 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:33,399 Speaker 1: Flips backwards and like what am I supposed to do? 604 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:36,359 Speaker 2: The wheelies are too much like the wheelies. 605 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:39,160 Speaker 1: And they have they don't pay attention to traffic. They're 606 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 1: on their phones the whole time, Like there needs to 607 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:45,400 Speaker 1: be some sort of driver's license test for these things 608 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 1: because they don't know what they're doing and I don't 609 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 1: think they understand how dangerous they can be. 610 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:50,880 Speaker 2: First of all, you sound like a nine year old lady, 611 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:51,399 Speaker 2: and I love it. 612 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 1: I'm concerned. 613 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:54,880 Speaker 2: I love it. No, No, because I agree with you. You're 614 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 2: like a personification of the next door app, because if 615 00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:59,160 Speaker 2: you go on next door, it's like e bike, e bike, 616 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:02,679 Speaker 2: e bike, Everyone's like, Okay, Ronda, I agree with you, 617 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,240 Speaker 2: And I have to take put on my policy hat 618 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:08,240 Speaker 2: here because we address this on city Council on multiple occasions. 619 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:10,960 Speaker 2: On the one hand, you know, you don't want to 620 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:12,919 Speaker 2: take it away from the kids because ultimately they're going 621 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:14,399 Speaker 2: to get their hands on them, and it's like if 622 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 2: they don't learn and they don't know the rules of 623 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,879 Speaker 2: the road, right, I personally think that it should be 624 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 2: they should go along with the driver's license at a 625 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,439 Speaker 2: certain speed limit, Like if you're selling selling an e 626 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:27,160 Speaker 2: bike that goes ten miles per hour below, that's fine, 627 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 2: but anything above that, you've got to get a permit. 628 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:31,920 Speaker 1: Goes you have to They don't pay attention. 629 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:34,360 Speaker 2: I don't pay they don't know the rules of the road. 630 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:36,040 Speaker 2: They're driving in the road. 631 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 1: Going like on a red light, and it's just like. 632 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:42,200 Speaker 2: And too many kids, a lot of kids kep getting 633 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 2: especially in Huntington Beach, and we're hearing these horrific stories. 634 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 2: So e bike safety is huge. We're actually I have 635 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 2: an h item coming out on the next week's council 636 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:52,119 Speaker 2: agenda where we are going to be addressing bike safety, 637 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:54,720 Speaker 2: E bike safety, et cetera. I agree with you on this. 638 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 2: I wouldn't say eighty six at all together, but I 639 00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 2: will say this on the business side, I asked one 640 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:01,879 Speaker 2: of the city council members, you know, what's kind of 641 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,119 Speaker 2: the background history on the regulation in a policy, and 642 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 2: they said, if you and I go, I'm going to 643 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 2: ban e bikes right like Andrew coming in like scortch 644 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,480 Speaker 2: or legend ht band e bikes. These kids are When 645 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:13,480 Speaker 2: I was a kid, I walked up Hill seven hundred 646 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 2: miles a day and the they were like, we have 647 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:19,120 Speaker 2: so much business that comes in from these e bike 648 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:21,920 Speaker 2: shops and e bike rentals. The business owners would would have. 649 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:24,440 Speaker 1: A fit, and I don't think we should get rid 650 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:26,639 Speaker 1: of them. They're just they need to like know the 651 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:27,720 Speaker 1: rules of the road. That's it. 652 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 2: Well, I think you should start a course. My eighty 653 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 2: six it is Yelp. 654 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:32,560 Speaker 1: We've never liked yelp. 655 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 2: This is my eighty six hit every single week. Here's 656 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:36,399 Speaker 2: the thing with Yelp. I'm not saying get rid of 657 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 2: yelp altogether, because I also use Yelp. I'll go on 658 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 2: Yelp to look at the photos. I don't like the 659 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 2: star rating and the way it's used as a bludgeon 660 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 2: that people can actually use it to abuse a restaurant. 661 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 2: I think it should we should get rid of the 662 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 2: star rating on Yelp, and it should just be pictures 663 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 2: and reviews. It forces Americans to actually read again, Like 664 00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 2: nobody you think anyone. 665 00:28:57,960 --> 00:28:59,480 Speaker 1: Reading reading great again? 666 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 2: Oh gosh, you know what, you should become a teacher. 667 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 2: So that's it. That's my eighty six Yelp. I'm probably 668 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:06,720 Speaker 2: gonna make that in eighty six it like every five 669 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 2: or six episodes altogether. I want to sharpen your skills, 670 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 2: all right. 671 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 1: I have a sharpen your skills tip, all right, give 672 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:16,920 Speaker 1: it to me, all right, So you should salt your 673 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 1: vegetables before cooking dry brine, not after. So if you 674 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:26,680 Speaker 1: salt raw vegetables, especially mushrooms, zucchini, eggplant, of you know, 675 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,960 Speaker 1: onions of the like, ten to fifteen minutes before cooking, 676 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 1: the salt draws out surface moisture and it does two 677 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 1: major things. Andrew, do you know what those are? 678 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 2: Well, it makes the vegetables taste richer and deeper, and 679 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 2: it also helps them brown because you're removing the moisture. 680 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 1: So and I feel like, I mean even for me, 681 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:46,760 Speaker 1: like sometimes I like forget to do that and I'll 682 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:49,240 Speaker 1: just start, you know, sataging the vegetables and I'm like, 683 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 1: oh shoot, and then they just it just tastes like 684 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 1: a vegetable with like salt on it, you know what 685 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:53,360 Speaker 1: I mean. 686 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 2: And you's vegetables all over the floor too. Hey, she's 687 00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:57,680 Speaker 2: a good flipper. 688 00:29:58,080 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 1: Hands he gets are very heavy. 689 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 2: I get heavy pants. I have heavy pants. Lauren's entirely 690 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 2: correct on this, and it's obviously this is similar to 691 00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:07,720 Speaker 2: kind of the dry Brian on the meat. The only 692 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 2: difference with the vegetables is that when the salt does 693 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 2: draw the moisture out, it's not necessarily going to go 694 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:15,760 Speaker 2: back into the vegetable the way it does with the meat, 695 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 2: so you just kind of pat them dry and you 696 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:19,880 Speaker 2: do get a much quicker, beautiful browning on the vegetables 697 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 2: without overcooking or burning them. So fifteen minutes before you 698 00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:25,920 Speaker 2: cook the vegetables is when you want to salt it, 699 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,840 Speaker 2: so a pre salt kind of dry Brian on the vegetables. 700 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:32,320 Speaker 2: We're there. That's a good one. I think that's the 701 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 2: best sharpen your skills you've had yet. 702 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 1: I've only had two. 703 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, well you're shooting one out of two. Oh right, 704 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 2: So wow, we covered a lot there, Snap benefits, E 705 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:46,560 Speaker 2: bike salting, vegetables, so many things. Eighty sixteen yelp. I mean, 706 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 2: you're all over the place, but we got some really 707 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 2: good content coming up in our next episode as well. 708 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 2: So make sure that you subscribe to us on whatever 709 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 2: wherever you listen to and get your podcasts Apple, iHeartRadio, iHeartMedia, Spotify, 710 00:30:59,880 --> 00:31:02,560 Speaker 2: You've got wherever you're getting your podcast on American Gravy. 711 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 2: You can follow me at Chef Gruel on X I'm 712 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 2: at Andrew Gruhl on Instagram. 713 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:10,840 Speaker 1: And you can follow me at Lauren Gruel on X 714 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:15,360 Speaker 1: or at Lauren Underscore Gruel on Instagram. 715 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,280 Speaker 2: And message us on any of those platform apps, you know, 716 00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 2: regarding what you want to hear as topics, what you 717 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 2: want to see eighty six. If you've got your own, 718 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 2: sharpen your skills, because we really want to make this 719 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:27,000 Speaker 2: an open dialogue. You know, we're family here, So American 720 00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 2: Gravy coming at you live. 721 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 1: See you next time.