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Speaker 1: news again in the wrong ways. Players are starting to

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Speaker 1: bowl games, and our early season hoops away. He's Ralph Ams.

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Speaker 1: Then I'm George Rice Stir and this is the PAC

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Speaker 1: I want to start with this. This wasn't on the

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Speaker 1: menu at first, but I just thought about it. I

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Speaker 1: absolutely hate Friday night games for the Pack twelve. First

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Speaker 1: of all, it's the ratings, aren't there in terms of

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Speaker 1: playing a regular game on ESPN on Fox on FS one,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna get more viewership on a Saturday than you

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Speaker 1: are on a Friday night. Second thing, weird stuff happens

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Speaker 1: on Friday Night, like you get weird results in the

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Speaker 1: PAC twelve, So this should be left for maction. It

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Speaker 1: should be left for uh FCS teams for the A,

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Speaker 1: on Wednesdays. Uh, That's where I'm at, Ralph. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'm there's some Wednesday NFL going on right now while

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Speaker 1: I can only imagine how bad things would go. UM

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Speaker 1: when So when you were when you were ranting about

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Speaker 1: this um on your personal podcast right start wrong, I

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Speaker 1: the Friday Pack twelve games and seeing how often the

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Speaker 1: it's freshest in your mind because Arizona State knocked Oregon

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Speaker 1: year it happened Arizona State last year, Oregon State this year. UM,

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Speaker 1: But I feel like there's probably something to that. I

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Speaker 1: I want to say. It feels like I could be

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Speaker 1: wrong about this, but it feels like number five Washington

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Speaker 1: It befuddles me that the Pack twelve just consistently won't

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be upset because you're taking away your ability

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Speaker 1: California linebacker committed to Utah up fifteen spots. I'm telling

429
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 1: you I can't explain either. I can't explain the Ethan

430
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:28,359
Speaker 1: Calvert one. I don't know if he had like a

431
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:33,439
Speaker 1: neat weightlifting video. Uh, I don't know. He's here's an

432
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:36,480
Speaker 1: interesting one to me though. Jackson Dart, who has been

433
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 1: tearing up all of Utah, did not move. He stayed

434
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 1: at one oh five, So that weird. Yeah, that's obviously

435
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:46,440
Speaker 1: not good for anything that I've said. But Miller Moss

436
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:49,800
Speaker 1: dropped six spots and he's at Bishop Allamanian, California that

437
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 1: he hasn't played. You brought up Bram walden Um Prophet

438
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:58,320
Speaker 1: Brown usc commit he dropped, he's in California, hasn't played

439
00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:02,200
Speaker 1: brock Bowers tight end Georgia commits, so that if you're

440
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:05,639
Speaker 1: in California, you dropped, unless you were Garbers. I guess

441
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:11,480
Speaker 1: all right. So here is my question is, so this

442
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:16,240
Speaker 1: feels like some southern East Coast bias because this this

443
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,639
Speaker 1: happens every year. It's not. I mean, this is just

444
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 1: an exaggeration. Okay, I would have to. I just want

445
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 1: to know who it Rivals is scouting the West Coast.

446
00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:31,680
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't want you to know. I'll name drop.

447
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:34,919
Speaker 1: I'll name drop that's Adam Gourney. If you have an issue,

448
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 1: you can hit up Adam Gorney. He's a big boy.

449
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:39,560
Speaker 1: He can handle it. Adam Gorney is in charge of

450
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:42,640
Speaker 1: the entire West Coast for Rivals. And that's you know,

451
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:48,560
Speaker 1: that's tough because I think the West Coast one has

452
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 1: multiple evaluators. I think they have Blair Angulo who used

453
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 1: to work with me over at Rivals, Greg Biggins, Brandon

454
00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 1: Huffman like those are power brokers in the rankings game.

455
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 1: And and Adam Gorny's taking them all on one by

456
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:07,640
Speaker 1: one so that I don't I'm not. I'm gonna be objective.

457
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 1: I mean, what are they gonna do, They're gonna fire me.

458
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 1: I'm I'm good like I'm I'm not worried about it.

459
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 1: I don't have anything bad to say about Adam. I

460
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 1: will say, you have three people evaluating side, you have

461
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 1: one person evaluating on the on the on the rival

462
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 1: side with with without really much to do right now.

463
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:26,560
Speaker 1: And so if you have people who are responsible for

464
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 1: their regions, like you know, you have somebody who's covering

465
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 1: in Florida and Florida's playing and somebody comes in with

466
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 1: a really passionate argument to their rankings meetings of saying

467
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 1: this guy needs to be bumped, but because he accomplished

468
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 1: X y Z and you have a California kid, what

469
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 1: are you gonna say he shouldn't be above this guy

470
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 1: because he's done what nothing? And so based on based

471
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:55,479
Speaker 1: on ten month old film, it's no, no, I do

472
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 1: get it. But there are I'm I'm talking about. There

473
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 1: are some of the kids who haven't played aid very

474
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 1: much for and some of the kids who have played

475
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,680
Speaker 1: and we're highly regarded have moved down. So it's it's

476
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 1: just it's just worth notice. It is absolutely a worthwhile

477
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 1: conversation to have because I think I think there's a

478
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 1: lot of people who would just take that stat that

479
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:19,720
Speaker 1: you said without any context whatsoever and want to burn

480
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 1: the village down. And I get that emotion, but you

481
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 1: also have to look at the fact that several states

482
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 1: are not playing, and several states are playing, and you

483
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 1: and I talked. To do with this is gonna be

484
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 1: There's gonna be some funky recruiting classes, there's gonna be

485
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 1: funky rankings. A lot of these schools aren't even gonna

486
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 1: know what they have until it shows up at their doorstep,

487
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:42,240
Speaker 1: and then you're gonna have a ton of people who

488
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:45,040
Speaker 1: would have really come up their senior year with nothing.

489
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 1: They're gonna have to go to Juco round. The thing

490
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 1: that I think is gonna happen is you're going to

491
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 1: have like legit second round NFL talent playing at schools

492
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 1: like Dixie State and Buffoon Cookman because of the way

493
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 1: this worked out, It's just like you're just not gonna

494
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 1: be able to properly evaluate a lot of these kids

495
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 1: as seniors, which means kids are gonna fall through the cracks,

496
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 1: which means they're gonna go to smaller schools and they're

497
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 1: gonna ball out, and so that that's gonna be kind

498
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 1: of cool because there might be some extra competitive equity

499
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 1: and then some dispersion of stars all over the place.

500
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 1: And then you have to factor in the weird transfer

501
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 1: portal into all of this, UM, and then the free transfer.

502
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 1: The college football is morphing rapidly right before our eyes,

503
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 1: and the pandemic is adding a very strange element to it,

504
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 1: and and uh, I'm what what can you do? I'm

505
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 1: definitely not for it, you know, I don't. I'm I don't.

506
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 1: I don't care for for much of this at all.

507
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 1: I would just love for everybody to be playing and

508
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 1: and a fair evaluation to take place. But I don't

509
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 1: think thirty three of the thirty five pack twelve commits

510
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 1: dropping and the rivals to fifty is a conspiracy. I

511
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 1: think it's just an unfortunate Uh, it's an unfortunate by

512
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 1: product of the reality that we're currently in. M I'm

513
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:10,480
Speaker 1: much more cynical than than you. I'm gonna go and

514
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 1: error on the side that it's a combination of both. Um,

515
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 1: what do you think the best case scenario for the

516
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 1: PAC twelve is this season in terms of what it

517
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 1: gets out of the season, because I think that Okay,

518
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 1: so Oregon and Washington play the last week of the season,

519
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 1: I believe the last week of the regular part of

520
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 1: the season, and if Washington can stay undefeated to that point,

521
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 1: I think the best case scenario for the conference is

522
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 1: to either have two undefeated teams in USC and Washington

523
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 1: play for the quote unquote PAC twelve Championship, or to

524
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:58,719
Speaker 1: have UM or to have Oregon then beat Washington and

525
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 1: then you have to five and one teams and then

526
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 1: you know, and then either USC or Oregon wins and

527
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 1: then you have what a six and of five and two,

528
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:14,560
Speaker 1: six and one and seven and old team, which looks

529
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 1: much better because conferences look better when they're top heavy,

530
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 1: Like if you have teams that look at elite, I mean,

531
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 1: look at the at the a c C. You have Miami,

532
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 1: who is not as good as their record says like

533
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 1: in terms of I don't think they're an elite team.

534
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 1: I think they're a good team. They're not elite, Uh,

535
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 1: Notre Dame and Clemson. Aside from that, nobody's afraid of

536
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 1: anybody else in the a c C. The and they're

537
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 1: truthfully nobody is really afraid of Miami either. The Big

538
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 1: twelve doesn't look as great this year because Iowa States

539
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 1: on top and they have two losses. The Big ten

540
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 1: looks fine because you're like, you have Ohio State. It

541
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:58,480
Speaker 1: doesn't matter what else we have. When you have teams

542
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 1: that are taught, when you're top be in the conference,

543
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 1: it's actually better because then they don't get sniped off

544
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:09,800
Speaker 1: by by some little cheapy games. They get a couple

545
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:12,799
Speaker 1: of free free wins, play some games. And when you

546
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 1: have teams that have you know, finished the season with

547
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 1: a couple one lost teams and an undefeated team, your

548
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:22,880
Speaker 1: conference is gonna look stronger. I mean, I guess, but

549
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 1: for what looks stronger to who? Are we still talking

550
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:28,239
Speaker 1: about the College Football Playoffs selection Committee? No, we're talking

551
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:33,319
Speaker 1: about just national for because everything's a lead in, so

552
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:37,400
Speaker 1: it's a lead into one. Really, it's how people are

553
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 1: gonna view you the upcoming season, because, uh, from from

554
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 1: two years ago, people are like, oh, yeah, the Pac

555
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,840
Speaker 1: twelve is getting the better. Pac twelves getting getting better.

556
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:50,440
Speaker 1: But now you know, you got dissed again because everybody

557
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:53,239
Speaker 1: was laughing because we weren't playing and we're the last

558
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 1: one to start, and now we have less less games,

559
00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 1: so it allows people to talk trash. I guess, I

560
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,279
Speaker 1: mean part of me understand what you're saying. The other

561
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 1: part of me is like, you know, screw you and

562
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 1: your perception. I dare you to schedule a game in

563
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:11,359
Speaker 1: Corvallis in November, cowards like I don't. I don't care.

564
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:14,359
Speaker 1: What if the A c C and the SEC had

565
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:17,799
Speaker 1: to play in conditions where you can't pass the ball

566
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 1: down field because of fog? Yeah, I just I'm thinking

567
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 1: about like, uh, you know, Georgia's got that big conference

568
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:33,360
Speaker 1: road trip, uh interconference road trip game to go play

569
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:39,920
Speaker 1: South Carolina three hours away. Meanwhile, like, meanwhile, University of

570
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 1: Arizona is like students are having to purchase jackets to

571
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 1: go play in Pullman. It's not it's not the same.

572
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 1: It's it's a completely Like every other region is an

573
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 1: actual region, the pac twelve is not a region. Only

574
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:01,239
Speaker 1: a few of the school's actually even border the Pacific.

575
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:07,719
Speaker 1: It's it's absurd. This, this whole conference is not technically

576
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 1: what everybody else believes a conference to be. You know,

577
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:20,319
Speaker 1: there is there is no regional tie like SEC. You

578
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 1: have a SEC culture a ce C for the most part.

579
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 1: You know, especially with the with the Southeastern Atlantic schools,

580
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,839
Speaker 1: you could say that there's an a CEC culture. Big ten.

581
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:34,840
Speaker 1: You could definitely say, like the Midwestern culture is there.

582
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 1: UM and the Big twelve, you know, with the same

583
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:40,320
Speaker 1: with a lot of the flyover states and and stuff

584
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:44,240
Speaker 1: like that. UM, with like a similar outlook on life

585
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 1: amongst a lot of the fan base. PAC twelve is

586
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:50,359
Speaker 1: not like that. They you can you can get caught

587
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:54,280
Speaker 1: with cocaine in the Pact twelve and it's okay now

588
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:59,319
Speaker 1: in Oregon, r like get going heroin and then be

589
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 1: like all right, all right, I'm I'm gonna play tomorrow. Yeah.

590
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 1: It's it's a it's a different world out here, and

591
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 1: it's and it spans the entire it spans like a

592
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:13,879
Speaker 1: fourth of the entire United States. This conference and their allegiances,

593
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 1: and you know, I don't know that there's teams that

594
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 1: I feel like that that we could include in this

595
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 1: conference and it wouldn't it wouldn't make a difference like that.

596
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:28,360
Speaker 1: The culture of this conference is so a morphous that

597
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 1: you could throw a team like Boise State in there.

598
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 1: You could throw University of Nebraska in there and nothing

599
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 1: is going to be how to give us Boise State. Dude,

600
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:41,840
Speaker 1: stop like you are Larry scotting it up. I'm not

601
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 1: saying it should happen. I'm saying that if you put

602
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 1: a Boise State or a Nebraska in in this conference,

603
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 1: or uh, you know, even if you went all the

604
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 1: way down into UH into Texas and pulled like a TCU,

605
00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 1: and it's like, there is no team that you could

606
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:04,840
Speaker 1: pull into this conference where the thing that would happen

607
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:06,720
Speaker 1: is just it's like living in the state of Arizona.

608
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 1: Everybody's from somewhere else. It's like living in l A,

609
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:12,440
Speaker 1: everybody's from somewhere else. The lack of culture is its

610
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:16,319
Speaker 1: own culture, right, Like, there's nobody that you could pull

611
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 1: into the PAC twelve that would tip the scales like this,

612
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 1: this vacuous void of culture that exists in the PAC

613
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:26,839
Speaker 1: twelve is its own thing. It's got its own difficulties,

614
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 1: it's its own unique, weird, beautiful thing that you and

615
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:33,400
Speaker 1: I have embraced. And I just don't even feel like

616
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:37,800
Speaker 1: it's on the level of what anybody else is doing. Uh.

617
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 1: Within college football, it's like a completely different sport. It's

618
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 1: like we have rugby, and every once in a while

619
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 1: we schedule inter uh conference games so we can bring

620
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:50,799
Speaker 1: our rugby up against your football, right, Like, it's just

621
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:53,440
Speaker 1: a different PAC twelve is a different world, and I'm

622
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 1: not worried about when anybody else thinks or the trash

623
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 1: they want to talk. I just dare their asses to

624
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 1: come out here, or we'll go out out there like

625
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:03,919
Speaker 1: Cal did uh last year into the SEC and get

626
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:11,759
Speaker 1: there's dude, it's well. Well. The biggest problem with that

627
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 1: is that schedules are are made thirty years in in advance,

628
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:19,319
Speaker 1: when we've clearly learned that all you need is a week.

629
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 1: Games should not be yes, games should not be scheduled

630
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 1: more than two years out under no circumstances. Um. Okay,

631
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:33,320
Speaker 1: So while the games are played, though, we are having

632
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 1: issues while the games are being played, and it comes

633
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:40,400
Speaker 1: from the Pack twelve officials. Um, if you guys haven't noticed,

634
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:42,880
Speaker 1: some of the Pack twelve officials who were some of

635
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 1: the top rated officials are now calling games and other conferences. Hum,

636
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 1: which is weird right and uh John John Kinzano, who

637
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 1: is is on his own personal crusade with with me

638
00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 1: to oust Michael Scott from being the mystery of the

639
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:05,239
Speaker 1: pack Pack twelve. Um, he asked him this last year.

640
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 1: This was after no, no no, sorry, two years ago after

641
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Speaker 1: Woody Dixon, who was in charge of the officials, when

642
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:19,240
Speaker 1: he telephoned the Central Command Center while watching the game

643
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 1: from his house during the season and change the outcome

644
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:28,359
Speaker 1: of a targeting call in the USC Washington State game.

645
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 1: First thing is is if that happened in the SEC,

646
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 1: this would never ever ever get out. First thing, but

647
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:41,240
Speaker 1: but also it's totally wrong. You can't have somebody calling

648
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:44,359
Speaker 1: from home and be like yo, yo, targeting ain't gonna

649
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 1: work right there. Um. So, weeks after that incident, John

650
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 1: Kenzano told Pact twelve commissioner Larry Michael Scott that nobody

651
00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:02,360
Speaker 1: trusted the conference, particularly when it came to officiating. Scott

652
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:06,720
Speaker 1: shot back, quote, I'll accept any criticism, but I think

653
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 1: that's a pretty wild exaggeration. Your your reaction to his

654
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:19,759
Speaker 1: to him saying, for first of all, he says I'll

655
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:23,759
Speaker 1: accept any criticism. No, you won't because he just criticized

656
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 1: you and you rebut it back. But he said, it's

657
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:31,760
Speaker 1: a pretty wild exaggeration that nobody trusts the conference, particularly

658
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:36,400
Speaker 1: the officiating. Well, I in that, and in that scenario,

659
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:37,840
Speaker 1: I would do the same thing that I do to

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00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:40,919
Speaker 1: everybody in any argument. Whenever they make a claim, I'd

661
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 1: be like, all right, name one person. It could be

662
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 1: like me, it could be your mom. I don't care.

663
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:50,719
Speaker 1: I'll call her, we'll talk about it, we'll find out

664
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Speaker 1: if you're right. Can you name one person that thinks

665
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 1: that the officiating in the Pact twelve? And so, you know,

666
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:02,920
Speaker 1: I think most most conferences, every school thinks that the

667
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 1: officials are out to get them. The PAC twelve is

668
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 1: the only conference that I pay attention to where like

669
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:11,399
Speaker 1: we all kind of give a head nod at each other,

670
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 1: like I hope the insane call goes my way today

671
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:21,960
Speaker 1: because the only other conference that complains about officials as

672
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:25,319
Speaker 1: much as the Pack twelve is the SEC and they

673
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 1: have obvious blunders, right, yeah, but it's like like with

674
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:32,959
Speaker 1: some fiked calls and they've gone for Auburn this year.

675
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:36,439
Speaker 1: But it's not but like this is an outlier, Like

676
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 1: this is not just regular uh you know, regular happening. Yeah,

677
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:46,240
Speaker 1: But I like, does anybody else have a weekly session

678
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:51,280
Speaker 1: like amongst several Pack twelve? Lad, I know that every

679
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 1: single week there's a group of PAC twelve fans on

680
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 1: Twitter representing several schools U C, l A, cal Utah,

681
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 1: Arizona State, and Oregon that I that I know of

682
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:04,399
Speaker 1: every single week, and Washington State. I'll say Washington State

683
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:07,359
Speaker 1: as well, where like there's a discussion every single week

684
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:09,239
Speaker 1: of like did you see the ship that happened this week?

685
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:12,359
Speaker 1: And everybody's on board with how we how weird? It is,

686
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 1: like I remember when Washington State got a fifth down

687
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 1: against Arizona State. I remember the Frank Darby non two

688
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 1: point conversion. I remember Oregon being off sides not just

689
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:27,440
Speaker 1: in this Oregon State game, but also in the triple

690
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 1: overtime game. He thought he was off size in the

691
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:34,400
Speaker 1: Oregon State game on on the goal line. That's what

692
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:37,880
Speaker 1: everybody's talking about. I thought he timed this nap perfectly.

693
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:41,720
Speaker 1: That That's literally what this Canzano article is is bilt

694
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 1: It's also about the touch that, yeah, but it's also

695
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:49,920
Speaker 1: about the the non touchdown on the on that play,

696
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:53,920
Speaker 1: which then Tritch and Jevia ends up getting hurt on

697
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:56,880
Speaker 1: the next play doing a quarterback sneak, which is really

698
00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:59,320
Speaker 1: the only the second time I've ever seen a person

699
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 1: come out seriously injured from a quarterback sneak, and that's

700
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:06,440
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes when he dislocated his kneecap and Tristan Jeva

701
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:09,480
Speaker 1: who looked like he got shot in in uh In

702
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:12,759
Speaker 1: Boys in the Hood. Yeah, I don't know how Like

703
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:16,280
Speaker 1: I've I've had a chance to meet a Pack twelve

704
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 1: ref last year and talked to him a little bit,

705
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 1: and it took everything I mean not to like lash

706
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:24,480
Speaker 1: out because I know that he him individually might not

707
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 1: necessarily be the the culprit. You know, he's pretty proud

708
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:31,320
Speaker 1: of himself and his job and his identity was wrapped

709
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:34,760
Speaker 1: up and just being an official. And he actually wore

710
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 1: Bowl game rings, several Bowl game rings on a hand,

711
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:41,759
Speaker 1: like he had won three national championships, because they get

712
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:45,360
Speaker 1: rings just for reffing them, and he was like wearing

713
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:47,360
Speaker 1: them all is super proud of the fact that he

714
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 1: even got to ref in high level games, whether it

715
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:53,280
Speaker 1: be a national championship or a bowl game or whatever.

716
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 1: And you know, I'm not out to take bread away

717
00:44:57,560 --> 00:45:00,719
Speaker 1: from any of these people individually, but there is some

718
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 1: pretty egregiously wild nonsense that goes on in this conference.

719
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:09,920
Speaker 1: So to find out that like officials are leaving either

720
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 1: because of the little level of criticism or the lack

721
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:16,399
Speaker 1: of accountability, or you know that the the benefits would

722
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:20,920
Speaker 1: be better elsewhere, and any of that information is frustrating

723
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:22,800
Speaker 1: to me because that just means it's going to continue

724
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 1: to be worse and worse. This year. I haven't minded it, honestly,

725
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:30,400
Speaker 1: the ridiculous calls in. It's like, I'm so happy to

726
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 1: even have football in the first place. That and I'm

727
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:37,359
Speaker 1: so beaten down by Pack twelve officiating that each week

728
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:40,440
Speaker 1: I'm just excited to see what they'll screw up, right,

729
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 1: Like what what crazy plot twist are we gonna have

730
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:46,880
Speaker 1: this week? And you know when it gets somebody hurt though, Like,

731
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 1: there's no there's no room for any of that, no

732
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 1: room for any of that at all. And and but

733
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 1: you also have to always question the motivation of the

734
00:45:55,680 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 1: person delivering any message. And obviously Canzano cover Oregon State

735
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 1: really closely, And it is his personal desire that he

736
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:06,960
Speaker 1: is espoused in many times, in many different ways, many

737
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 1: different platforms. That Larry Scott no longer be the commissioner

738
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:13,759
Speaker 1: of of the Pack twelve. So you gotta you gotta all.

739
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 1: You have to include the grains of salt with with

740
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:19,839
Speaker 1: how you take this and say like, all right, well,

741
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 1: is it more egregious than it usually is? Or is

742
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:25,279
Speaker 1: Kanzano just in his endgame of trying to get Larry

743
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 1: Scott oustad And I, you know, I can't say that.

744
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:31,840
Speaker 1: I'm not I wouldn't be appreciative if he actually managed

745
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 1: to accomplish his very obvious goal. Um, but I can't

746
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:39,239
Speaker 1: tell I. I can't tell George. I cannot tell if

747
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 1: it's worse because it is just always very bad. Yeah. Oh,

748
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 1: and what while we were talking about all it is

749
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 1: talking talking about the other conferences as well. The SEC

750
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:59,240
Speaker 1: Commissioner Greg Sanky criticized the a c C for streamlining

751
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 1: Clemson the Notre Dame's path to the a c C

752
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:05,839
Speaker 1: Championship game and said that the SEC will proudly play

753
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:10,799
Speaker 1: all its games. Dude, this is a real thing. Like

754
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:13,360
Speaker 1: the a c C is trying to Jerry trying to

755
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 1: Jimmy Rigg teams into the to the College Football Playoff.

756
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:21,160
Speaker 1: The that's why the a c C and the SEC

757
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:25,120
Speaker 1: consistently have this thing going because they only play eight

758
00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:28,240
Speaker 1: conference games, so that's led to them look looking better.

759
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:34,120
Speaker 1: But anyways, I I digress onto better things are ratings.

760
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 1: You guys know that we ask you guys to leave

761
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:41,880
Speaker 1: ratings on the podcast because we want feedback from you guys,

762
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:45,239
Speaker 1: and you guys are a part of this podcast, and

763
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 1: so you get to voice your opinion, you get to

764
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 1: change your opinion, say it how it is that you

765
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 1: that you think, how you feel, and I always ask

766
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:56,879
Speaker 1: for a five star rating. Ralph, Ralph, you can tell

767
00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 1: them eu us Bill, I don't even want to even

768
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:02,920
Speaker 1: repeat the nonsense. If if you are and if you

769
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:05,799
Speaker 1: are an active listener, you can communicate to us through

770
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:07,960
Speaker 1: the reviews, and if you feel like there's something we

771
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:10,839
Speaker 1: can improve, you can make that suggestion with a four

772
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:14,319
Speaker 1: star review, and we will try to earn that fifth star.

773
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:16,920
Speaker 1: I know that George hates that, but that's just a

774
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 1: philosophy that I have. George will be happy to know,

775
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:21,680
Speaker 1: even though I spouse that philosophy every single week on

776
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:23,960
Speaker 1: this podcast, and even though I think some of the

777
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:26,759
Speaker 1: four star reviews are actually your fault and you're unapologetic

778
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 1: about it. Uh. We have seven of our last eight

779
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 1: reviews are five star reviews. Okay, so what are what

780
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:42,000
Speaker 1: are the new ones? We have? One from November from

781
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:45,839
Speaker 1: five underscore zero underscore three that seems to be an

782
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:52,279
Speaker 1: Oregon fan as an Oregon area code? Am I correct? Three? Y? Yeah?

783
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:55,560
Speaker 1: Five stars, five stars. Five stars is the title great

784
00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 1: listen if you're a Pack twelve fan listening to basically

785
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 1: every college football podcast out there, and if you want

786
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 1: series Packed twelve talk, this is the pod you've gotta

787
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:06,759
Speaker 1: listen to. Good stuff guys keep putting on for the

788
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:09,759
Speaker 1: Pack twelve. That even sounds like like that sounds like

789
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:12,080
Speaker 1: something I would I would ask a friend to write

790
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:14,319
Speaker 1: who has never even listened to the show, and I

791
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:15,719
Speaker 1: know that I didn't do that, and I know you

792
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:18,800
Speaker 1: probably didn't do that. So that's like a genuine review

793
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:23,360
Speaker 1: of somebody who really likes the show. That's kind of cool, Okay,

794
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:27,560
Speaker 1: And this second one is for you, George, even though

795
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:32,040
Speaker 1: the review is titled this one's for Ralph, uh, it

796
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:34,760
Speaker 1: is from fat Husky and it was left on November.

797
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:41,960
Speaker 1: George period, Do you think this is from Mr? Well?

798
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:44,360
Speaker 1: I'll let you be the judge of that the review,

799
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:47,640
Speaker 1: George Period. I know you're jealous and wondering how you

800
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 1: can garner a five star yourself. Simple do everything you

801
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:56,520
Speaker 1: did last podcast, but don't allow garbage points against your freshmen.

802
00:49:57,120 --> 00:50:02,480
Speaker 1: Hashtag bowed down Purple King. Oh I didn't see the

803
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:06,640
Speaker 1: bow down Purple King for oh my god, so bow

804
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 1: down that is absolutely a a stinky husky dog. Um.

805
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:18,200
Speaker 1: But uh, that's absolutely it. But you know things aren't

806
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:21,719
Speaker 1: right when when somebody saw it starts something off with

807
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 1: George period, right, Like why why even involved me in this?

808
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:29,960
Speaker 1: Like I put my name in the title of the review.

809
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:32,319
Speaker 1: Just take just take it up with you. You had

810
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:35,160
Speaker 1: some people in your mentions this weekend like, oh my gosh,

811
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 1: you had one because I had tweeted that Washington, Oh

812
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:42,520
Speaker 1: this is funny. Yeah, because the Nate Robinson got knocked

813
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:44,399
Speaker 1: out by one of the Paul brothers. I still haven't

814
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:48,279
Speaker 1: bothered to learn which one. Uh. And and I mean

815
00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:51,319
Speaker 1: I watched a Twitter stream of the fight and I

816
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:53,439
Speaker 1: watched him get knocked down four times. On the fourth

817
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:56,640
Speaker 1: when he got knocked out, and uh, I tweeted I

818
00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:59,680
Speaker 1: think a clip of like the third knockdown, and I said,

819
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:04,240
Speaker 1: Washington actually did take an l today because Nate Robinson

820
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:07,040
Speaker 1: was a two sports star at University of Washington, and

821
00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:09,080
Speaker 1: I think people assumed that you were the one in

822
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:13,319
Speaker 1: control Pack twelve Apostles Twitter account because they were there.

823
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:15,840
Speaker 1: They were frustrated. They used a couple of words that

824
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:19,560
Speaker 1: I don't think that I'm even allowed to repeat to

825
00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 1: describe you, which kind of funny. But no, that was

826
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 1: not George. That was me. If it's if it's complete

827
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:33,400
Speaker 1: dumbassory from the Pack twelve Apostles account, it's almost always me,

828
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:37,600
Speaker 1: like I'm the idiot. But they got they got mad

829
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:40,759
Speaker 1: at you for it, which made it even better due

830
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:44,480
Speaker 1: and the reason why they were so mad, it's because

831
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:49,000
Speaker 1: during the Washington game, well I I, well, actually let's

832
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 1: let's let's okay. So during the Washington game, I tweeted

833
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:56,680
Speaker 1: out from my own personal account, I said, oh what,

834
00:51:57,200 --> 00:52:00,239
Speaker 1: Washington fans are real quiet now because they were down

835
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:04,080
Speaker 1: at halftime. And I'm a fan of people. If you're

836
00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:06,840
Speaker 1: gonna talk trash, talk trash when you went and losing

837
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 1: all of that, But they were quiet as a church mouse. Dude,

838
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:14,880
Speaker 1: quiet as a church mouse. Nowhere to be found there. Um.

839
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:19,439
Speaker 1: I went to the seven page their their board had

840
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 1: all types of criticisms about Jimmy Lake and all of

841
00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:24,759
Speaker 1: this stuff. And here's the thing that their moderators do

842
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:28,839
Speaker 1: on the seven site that I hate. They they take

843
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:33,120
Speaker 1: down so many posts, any negative posts or anything that

844
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:35,680
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's like they're on payroll at the

845
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:39,719
Speaker 1: University of Washington, and so I don't I don't like it.

846
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 1: I think it's disingenuous to like a community like if

847
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:45,279
Speaker 1: someone's being abusive, then yeah, you do need to take

848
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 1: it down. But I'm more for a locking threads or

849
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:53,160
Speaker 1: you know, like doing other things. But you can't sit

850
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:55,680
Speaker 1: there and take down posts because you don't like what

851
00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:59,360
Speaker 1: people had to say. It's a message board. It's built

852
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:04,799
Speaker 1: for that. And so and so, after Washington came back,

853
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:08,200
Speaker 1: they got up with thirty three seconds left, and Washington

854
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:11,440
Speaker 1: fans like, ah, look who's talking now? This twee days perfectly.

855
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:13,239
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, of course you're talking now. You

856
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:15,400
Speaker 1: thought you were losing the entire game. I saw the

857
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:20,920
Speaker 1: damn message boards. Um. Anyways, Ralph, it is time for

858
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:26,680
Speaker 1: our pack twelve power rankings. UM where we ranked the

859
00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:32,600
Speaker 1: teams where they are right now. Um, you can give

860
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:35,560
Speaker 1: your twelve to six. That well, twelve to seven, and

861
00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:38,239
Speaker 1: then I'll give mine, and then the one to six

862
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:45,400
Speaker 1: and so forth. This is this is so freaking difficult. No,

863
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:48,239
Speaker 1: it's not this. This is super easy actually for me.

864
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:52,520
Speaker 1: Oh you're you're talking about the bottom half. It's weird.

865
00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:55,759
Speaker 1: I don't even Both apps are incredibly easy for me.

866
00:53:57,120 --> 00:53:59,120
Speaker 1: All right, Well, the worst team in the pack twelve

867
00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:01,720
Speaker 1: is University of Areas on it, especially with Grant Canel injured.

868
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:05,359
Speaker 1: I love will Plumber, but they're twelve. That's not That's

869
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:12,320
Speaker 1: not a dispute, is it. I mean, Cow, Cow, Cow's triumph.

870
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:14,960
Speaker 1: I see flashes of things from Cow that I really like.

871
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:16,680
Speaker 1: But I guess you can make the argument of what

872
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:19,879
Speaker 1: Arizona did against USC there were some positives, but again

873
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:26,080
Speaker 1: Canale's hurt, so um, let's go with Let's go with

874
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:29,719
Speaker 1: cal at eleven, but like a strong eleven, if that's

875
00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:36,279
Speaker 1: even a thing. Um, okay, a strong We have Stanford

876
00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:42,520
Speaker 1: at number ten, Utah at number nine, which I saw

877
00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:46,520
Speaker 1: somebody actually had Utah on the actual pack twelve, Like

878
00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:48,680
Speaker 1: Late Night Show. I watched that for the first time

879
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:52,360
Speaker 1: with Ashley Adamson and uh Yogi Roth. They had somebody

880
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:54,759
Speaker 1: else on there with them that had Utah's number three

881
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:56,800
Speaker 1: in the whole conference. Called him the best oh and

882
00:54:56,840 --> 00:54:58,279
Speaker 1: two team in the country, and I didn't you know,

883
00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:01,319
Speaker 1: I don't even know how to. There are no other

884
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:04,879
Speaker 1: and two teams in the country pretty much, so so

885
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:08,920
Speaker 1: so yes, they probably are the best and two team

886
00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:14,200
Speaker 1: in UH. I hate, I hate that I'm doing this,

887
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:17,400
Speaker 1: but my my number eight is U c l A

888
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:31,399
Speaker 1: what okay, okay, go go on seven? Seven is Arizona State?

889
00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:40,400
Speaker 1: Good God, Ralph, that's brutal, dude. So I got Arizona twelve,

890
00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:50,719
Speaker 1: Kala leven? You take ten, Stanford nine, Washington State eight,

891
00:55:51,560 --> 00:56:01,279
Speaker 1: and Arizona State seven? Is that? Okay? Who are you?

892
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:06,640
Speaker 1: Who are your next six? Um? Alright? So I guess

893
00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:11,080
Speaker 1: this is a tough one because Washington States only win,

894
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:13,879
Speaker 1: I think is against Oregon State, which MUCKs this whole

895
00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:19,279
Speaker 1: thing up because Oregon State beat Oregon. Um. But you

896
00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:22,439
Speaker 1: gotta do what you gotta do here. So I'm gonna

897
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:25,960
Speaker 1: go ahead and have Washington State as my number six.

898
00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:33,880
Speaker 1: We'll go with We'll go with UH Oregon at number

899
00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:39,759
Speaker 1: five because they're defense it's abominable, man. Um. Yeah, but

900
00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:45,320
Speaker 1: they're they're the number one scoring team in the conference exactly.

901
00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:48,120
Speaker 1: So oh why is that? Is that? Because Travis dies

902
00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:53,040
Speaker 1: on the team? You want to get back into this again. Okay,

903
00:56:55,520 --> 00:57:00,160
Speaker 1: So what did I say at Oregon at five? Okay? Um,

904
00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:09,120
Speaker 1: Oregon State four stop Ralph dudes, Okay go Colorado three,

905
00:57:10,239 --> 00:57:17,760
Speaker 1: USC two Washington one. And I genuinely would consider flipping

906
00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:22,480
Speaker 1: USC in Colorado because I had picked Colorado to beat USC,

907
00:57:22,680 --> 00:57:25,400
Speaker 1: but I wasn't super impressed. We'll leave it. We'll leave

908
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:29,040
Speaker 1: it as is. We'll leave it as is, UM Washington one.

909
00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:33,400
Speaker 1: USC told, this is so bad. Your your rankings are

910
00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:34,920
Speaker 1: so bad. It would have been a lot easier. And

911
00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:37,000
Speaker 1: if your ducks just would have taken care of business

912
00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:40,240
Speaker 1: on Friday night in the falls, the fact that you

913
00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:44,720
Speaker 1: have Oregon State four is criminal. Um, Oregon State six,

914
00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:52,360
Speaker 1: U c l A five, Colorado four, Oregon three, Washington

915
00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:58,760
Speaker 1: to USC one. This is you can't know. No, I

916
00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:01,760
Speaker 1: don't feel good about two in one. I don't what actually,

917
00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:05,080
Speaker 1: but I could make a case that Colorado should be

918
00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:09,280
Speaker 1: number one, though you could. You could. They've run the ball,

919
00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:14,200
Speaker 1: they played decent defense. Um, yeah, I but they haven't

920
00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:17,040
Speaker 1: played any of the teams that are in the top

921
00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:19,760
Speaker 1: three on this list. So the only thing, well, if

922
00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:22,200
Speaker 1: I could go back, and I can't, I've already said

923
00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:24,720
Speaker 1: it out loud, But I do have U c l

924
00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:28,560
Speaker 1: A too low. I I do have U c l

925
00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:31,400
Speaker 1: A too low. I will admit that their defensive line

926
00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:36,280
Speaker 1: has been impressive. Their defensive backfield has been far better

927
00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:40,240
Speaker 1: than I thought they'd be. I do not like Chase

928
00:58:40,320 --> 00:58:44,040
Speaker 1: Griffin more than Dorian Thompson Robinson, and I don't understand

929
00:58:44,040 --> 00:58:46,520
Speaker 1: the culture of people who who do. They are a

930
00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:48,680
Speaker 1: more dangerous team with DTR on the field. He hasn't

931
00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:50,560
Speaker 1: been on the field, so that's kind of counting against it.

932
00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:54,520
Speaker 1: And I am not giving them enough credit. Hand I'm

933
00:58:54,560 --> 00:58:58,280
Speaker 1: I'm raising my my, my hand. I'm not. I'm not.

934
00:58:58,520 --> 00:59:00,800
Speaker 1: I don't hate the Chase Griffin. Well, yeah, you know

935
00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:02,920
Speaker 1: what's you know what's better than not being able to

936
00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:07,320
Speaker 1: throw interceptions or touchdowns doing neither. That's the perspective of like,

937
00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:09,560
Speaker 1: it's better to not even show up than it is

938
00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:14,440
Speaker 1: to throw two touchdowns and two pick sixes. I think

939
00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:19,720
Speaker 1: it's probably a wash. Yeah, exactly. Um, all right, so

940
00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:24,360
Speaker 1: the Pack twelve is losing bowl games right now, though

941
00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:27,600
Speaker 1: Pack twelve has lost a bunch of bowl games there

942
00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:30,320
Speaker 1: down the Sun Bowl now too. I think that I

943
00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:31,960
Speaker 1: think that this is not just gonna be a Pack

944
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:34,760
Speaker 1: twelve issue because it's the third one with with an

945
00:59:34,760 --> 00:59:37,640
Speaker 1: A C C tie into that's gone. I think that

946
00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:41,000
Speaker 1: because the Holiday Bowl is gone, I think the Las

947
00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:44,320
Speaker 1: Vegas Bowl might be going. There's a bunch of bowl games.

948
00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:47,440
Speaker 1: The l A excuse me, the l A Bowl is

949
00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:49,920
Speaker 1: for is almost for sure going to be out of

950
00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:52,280
Speaker 1: out of here as well. But I think you're gonna

951
00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:55,480
Speaker 1: have a bunch of conferences canceled because they can't afford

952
00:59:55,920 --> 00:59:58,720
Speaker 1: to put out all this money. Well, bowl games canceled,

953
00:59:58,840 --> 01:00:01,840
Speaker 1: put out all this money, and then have a team

954
01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:05,440
Speaker 1: come down with with with with COVID the day before

955
01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:08,360
Speaker 1: the game. Yeah, and I get that. I think what

956
01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:10,920
Speaker 1: you should do is just schedule an extra Pack twelve

957
01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:12,840
Speaker 1: game or maybe play some of these games that didn't

958
01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:16,800
Speaker 1: get played, but allow for a local sponsor to sweep

959
01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:20,400
Speaker 1: in and get some pub like if there's any like

960
01:00:20,520 --> 01:00:23,640
Speaker 1: local restaurants or or something like that that get for

961
01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:28,400
Speaker 1: four bucks can get their name on it, because otherwise

962
01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:29,920
Speaker 1: what are you gonna do? I mean, I think it'd

963
01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:31,760
Speaker 1: be funny to have like the Dollar Tree Bowl in

964
01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:33,959
Speaker 1: Salt Lake City or something like that that that Yep,

965
01:00:34,120 --> 01:00:37,360
Speaker 1: the Las Vegas Bowl has gone, so no Pack twelve

966
01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:42,080
Speaker 1: SEC matchup. There's no Arizona Bowl in Tucson, there's no

967
01:00:42,200 --> 01:00:46,480
Speaker 1: Holiday Bowl, and there's no Sun Bowl. Yeah, it's it's

968
01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:50,760
Speaker 1: getting bad. The the Idaho Potato Bowl is probably gonna

969
01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:55,760
Speaker 1: stay on or whatever. I don't know. I don't, actually,

970
01:00:56,120 --> 01:00:58,840
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know if we're gonna see really

971
01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:01,600
Speaker 1: many bowls at all. Think you should just give teams

972
01:01:01,640 --> 01:01:05,040
Speaker 1: some games back, Like Arizona State would really appreciate the

973
01:01:05,080 --> 01:01:08,200
Speaker 1: opportunity to just get a second game in this season

974
01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:13,520
Speaker 1: at some point. Yep, yep, I mean, wouldn't it would

975
01:01:13,520 --> 01:01:15,760
Speaker 1: wouldn't it be good though for the Pac twelve too

976
01:01:16,440 --> 01:01:21,320
Speaker 1: to play the the Big Ten because you had how

977
01:01:21,360 --> 01:01:24,240
Speaker 1: how crazy is it that Washington was supposed to play

978
01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:28,000
Speaker 1: Michigan this year? Dude, they were gonna get a layup

979
01:01:28,040 --> 01:01:31,160
Speaker 1: of of a win over a Big Ten team. Dude,

980
01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:33,240
Speaker 1: that was gonna make the conference looks so damn good.

981
01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:35,520
Speaker 1: And then I don't know about good have been a

982
01:01:35,560 --> 01:01:38,360
Speaker 1: six to three win and everybody would have been super

983
01:01:38,440 --> 01:01:40,840
Speaker 1: hyped about it right away, and then over time you'd

984
01:01:40,880 --> 01:01:46,000
Speaker 1: have realized like, oh, that was par for the course. Yep, yeah,

985
01:01:46,080 --> 01:01:51,400
Speaker 1: yeah for sure. Um, all right, so now it's onto

986
01:01:51,480 --> 01:01:56,320
Speaker 1: the games. Um. So last week's games provided some you know,

987
01:01:56,400 --> 01:02:02,160
Speaker 1: a mixed bag of results. Row, what was our what

988
01:02:02,160 --> 01:02:06,040
Speaker 1: are what is our totals? Because you know, last last

989
01:02:06,040 --> 01:02:12,040
Speaker 1: week got spotted to you you know when yeah, against

990
01:02:12,080 --> 01:02:15,400
Speaker 1: the spread, So this week we added the over under

991
01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:18,840
Speaker 1: and all of that. So what what was our ranking

992
01:02:18,880 --> 01:02:21,000
Speaker 1: coming into the week? And where are we at now? Okay?

993
01:02:21,040 --> 01:02:24,840
Speaker 1: So coming into the week, I was eight and four

994
01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:28,360
Speaker 1: against the spread, nine and three straight up. I went

995
01:02:28,600 --> 01:02:30,840
Speaker 1: three and one straight up, three and one against the spread.

996
01:02:31,120 --> 01:02:33,160
Speaker 1: We introduced over unders and I went two in one

997
01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:35,880
Speaker 1: because we just completely forgot to even do the Utah

998
01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:40,080
Speaker 1: game at all because we're professionals. Um, that puts me

999
01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:42,959
Speaker 1: at eleven and five against the spread, two and one

1000
01:02:43,320 --> 01:02:46,560
Speaker 1: on over unders, and twelve and four straight up. You

1001
01:02:46,720 --> 01:02:49,400
Speaker 1: went three and one straight up and you came in

1002
01:02:50,240 --> 01:02:52,880
Speaker 1: at eight and four, So that puts you at eleven

1003
01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:54,840
Speaker 1: and five on the season. You went one and two

1004
01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:59,240
Speaker 1: on the over unders. Our disagreement was on the Oregon

1005
01:02:59,320 --> 01:03:01,800
Speaker 1: Oregons eight game, actually, and so I got that one,

1006
01:03:02,160 --> 01:03:05,120
Speaker 1: and you know we both got that one correct. Our

1007
01:03:05,160 --> 01:03:10,800
Speaker 1: disagreement was on u c L A Arizona. I went

1008
01:03:10,880 --> 01:03:16,960
Speaker 1: under because again Chase Griffin. Uh, the Chase Griffin effect. Um,

1009
01:03:17,040 --> 01:03:19,120
Speaker 1: but I went under on that, so so I got

1010
01:03:19,120 --> 01:03:22,560
Speaker 1: that one from you. You went one, great, didn't get

1011
01:03:22,600 --> 01:03:25,200
Speaker 1: get hurt. This would have been a better game. Yeah,

1012
01:03:25,200 --> 01:03:26,920
Speaker 1: it might have been a better game. I don't know

1013
01:03:26,960 --> 01:03:29,080
Speaker 1: if it would have got to that fifty two or

1014
01:03:29,080 --> 01:03:32,760
Speaker 1: whatever it was supposed to be at. Um. Yeah, that

1015
01:03:33,200 --> 01:03:35,720
Speaker 1: it would have been a better game for sure. Uh.

1016
01:03:35,760 --> 01:03:38,800
Speaker 1: And then you went one in three against the spread

1017
01:03:38,840 --> 01:03:43,440
Speaker 1: which dropped you was six and ten. Oh yeah, that

1018
01:03:43,480 --> 01:03:44,800
Speaker 1: was a that was a that was a rough go.

1019
01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:48,240
Speaker 1: You're gonna it's gonna it's gonna take you a while. Um,

1020
01:03:48,320 --> 01:03:50,400
Speaker 1: you were now five games behind. I don't know how

1021
01:03:50,440 --> 01:03:53,120
Speaker 1: that happened here, five games behind me when we're all

1022
01:03:53,120 --> 01:04:02,840
Speaker 1: be playing four games a week. Uh. Oh boy, oh boy, dude.

1023
01:04:04,000 --> 01:04:09,080
Speaker 1: You're welcome, Ralph, You're welcome. I don't know how this happened. Okay,

1024
01:04:09,120 --> 01:04:11,959
Speaker 1: so let's let's start with the Friday night game. Yet

1025
01:04:12,040 --> 01:04:18,320
Speaker 1: Stanford beating cow playing in California, even though Stanford can't

1026
01:04:18,320 --> 01:04:25,160
Speaker 1: play in California anymore anymore. Um tree, Stanford did not

1027
01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:29,360
Speaker 1: score in the fourth quarter. Um, this game was decided

1028
01:04:29,560 --> 01:04:33,320
Speaker 1: by a well, it ended on a missed field on

1029
01:04:33,400 --> 01:04:37,200
Speaker 1: a mixed extra point by cow after Chase Garber's let

1030
01:04:37,240 --> 01:04:40,640
Speaker 1: them down. Scored all of that, and this is their

1031
01:04:40,680 --> 01:04:44,480
Speaker 1: second game that's basically ended on a special team's error.

1032
01:04:44,840 --> 01:04:47,240
Speaker 1: They had a punt block that I think against Oregon State,

1033
01:04:47,400 --> 01:04:50,640
Speaker 1: like it was just it's just been a mess for them.

1034
01:04:50,680 --> 01:04:54,160
Speaker 1: They finally put together a good game. Stanford still sucks

1035
01:04:54,240 --> 01:04:59,320
Speaker 1: running the football. Intellectual brutality is broken. Thirty five carries

1036
01:05:00,120 --> 01:05:05,600
Speaker 1: yards and yeah, two point seven yards to carry. Cal

1037
01:05:05,800 --> 01:05:08,840
Speaker 1: ran the ball thirty five times for two d forty

1038
01:05:08,840 --> 01:05:12,040
Speaker 1: one yards same amount of Russia is vers to forty

1039
01:05:12,040 --> 01:05:16,360
Speaker 1: one six point nine yards to carry stand. Cal dominated

1040
01:05:16,400 --> 01:05:20,320
Speaker 1: this football game. But but they're two loss turnovers. Their

1041
01:05:20,320 --> 01:05:24,680
Speaker 1: two lost fumbles hurt them tremendously, and that's the only

1042
01:05:24,680 --> 01:05:27,720
Speaker 1: reason why Stanford was even in this football game. Stanford's

1043
01:05:27,760 --> 01:05:30,120
Speaker 1: not a good football team mat and that and just

1044
01:05:30,520 --> 01:05:34,360
Speaker 1: brutal special teams. Like David Show gave a quote after

1045
01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:41,400
Speaker 1: this game and it was, I I don't know, I

1046
01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:43,560
Speaker 1: don't know if this was just something you say after

1047
01:05:43,640 --> 01:05:46,160
Speaker 1: a rivalry, to twist the knife after you've already dug

1048
01:05:46,160 --> 01:05:48,800
Speaker 1: it into their flesh. But he this is a David

1049
01:05:48,800 --> 01:05:51,960
Speaker 1: Show quote, he said, we have the talent to influence

1050
01:05:52,040 --> 01:05:54,479
Speaker 1: games on special teams, and it was great to see

1051
01:05:54,480 --> 01:05:58,560
Speaker 1: it happen today that watching that game, it did not

1052
01:05:58,800 --> 01:06:03,680
Speaker 1: feel like a stand for talent advantage. It felt like

1053
01:06:03,800 --> 01:06:08,040
Speaker 1: Cal was blowing it, just blown. And I guess that

1054
01:06:08,200 --> 01:06:10,760
Speaker 1: last extra point they got some push there and he

1055
01:06:10,840 --> 01:06:13,280
Speaker 1: blocked that. He blocked that extra point with his elbow.

1056
01:06:13,360 --> 01:06:19,960
Speaker 1: That was that was kick bad blocking. Everything was bad.

1057
01:06:21,040 --> 01:06:23,880
Speaker 1: I hate this because Cal's Cal's special teams coach. I

1058
01:06:23,880 --> 01:06:28,000
Speaker 1: think is Charlie Regel. I love that man. He is

1059
01:06:29,960 --> 01:06:32,960
Speaker 1: I'm I'm dead serious. I love that man. He's a

1060
01:06:33,000 --> 01:06:39,200
Speaker 1: fantastic recruiter. Suggling. That's what hurts my feelings about all

1061
01:06:39,240 --> 01:06:41,800
Speaker 1: this is like a lot of the players that they

1062
01:06:41,840 --> 01:06:44,440
Speaker 1: even have on that team that make them a competitive

1063
01:06:44,480 --> 01:06:48,720
Speaker 1: team are because of him. Like Brett Johnson is because

1064
01:06:48,760 --> 01:06:51,800
Speaker 1: of him. Their number two and number three quarterbacks are

1065
01:06:52,000 --> 01:06:57,200
Speaker 1: because of him, Braxton Kroto, they're starting outside linebacker. That's

1066
01:06:57,920 --> 01:07:01,400
Speaker 1: Charlie Regel special. Like they had of all uh their

1067
01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:03,600
Speaker 1: backup running back into Carlos Brooks. They have all of

1068
01:07:03,640 --> 01:07:09,320
Speaker 1: these guys because of his influence as a former Arizona

1069
01:07:09,360 --> 01:07:12,160
Speaker 1: high school football coach and his ability to go into

1070
01:07:12,160 --> 01:07:16,240
Speaker 1: Arizona and bring these kids to Cal. His unit got

1071
01:07:16,280 --> 01:07:19,840
Speaker 1: their ass kicked. And it was when when they missed that,

1072
01:07:19,880 --> 01:07:21,720
Speaker 1: when they got that extra point blocked, I think I

1073
01:07:21,760 --> 01:07:24,800
Speaker 1: just tointed, like, oh, not like this, because they already

1074
01:07:24,800 --> 01:07:27,160
Speaker 1: had the muff punt, which that was not a talent

1075
01:07:27,640 --> 01:07:30,600
Speaker 1: thing for standard when you put extra spin on the ball,

1076
01:07:31,320 --> 01:07:35,880
Speaker 1: the field goal block, I mean being in the situation

1077
01:07:35,920 --> 01:07:37,640
Speaker 1: to even have to kick that field goal. I guess

1078
01:07:37,720 --> 01:07:41,560
Speaker 1: that's on you know, Cal's offense a little bit. It

1079
01:07:41,720 --> 01:07:44,560
Speaker 1: was weird. Cal looked like the better team, they really did,

1080
01:07:44,600 --> 01:07:47,560
Speaker 1: and they got beat. Uh, Davis Mills did not play

1081
01:07:47,600 --> 01:07:49,920
Speaker 1: as well as I thought he was gonna play. I

1082
01:07:49,920 --> 01:07:53,720
Speaker 1: don't know if that's a credit to Cal's defense or what. Um,

1083
01:07:53,760 --> 01:07:55,600
Speaker 1: this is just a bad football game. I watched it

1084
01:07:55,600 --> 01:07:59,560
Speaker 1: in standard definition like an a hole? When how did

1085
01:07:59,600 --> 01:08:05,240
Speaker 1: you do? How possibly knew that? Watching Friday day game

1086
01:08:06,160 --> 01:08:09,800
Speaker 1: while Black Friday shopping and yeah and standard definition? It

1087
01:08:09,880 --> 01:08:13,160
Speaker 1: was it was felt, how did you mess that up? Dude?

1088
01:08:13,280 --> 01:08:15,840
Speaker 1: At no point in time where you where you looking?

1089
01:08:15,920 --> 01:08:18,160
Speaker 1: And was like, yo, you am I watching a VHS

1090
01:08:18,280 --> 01:08:20,760
Speaker 1: right right now? I don't know if maybe the game

1091
01:08:20,840 --> 01:08:23,280
Speaker 1: was just so black bad that the players were blurry,

1092
01:08:23,360 --> 01:08:27,000
Speaker 1: like I had nothing to do. Actually, it just was

1093
01:08:27,080 --> 01:08:31,280
Speaker 1: not a pleasurable experience to watch. Was there anybody for Stanford,

1094
01:08:31,280 --> 01:08:33,760
Speaker 1: for you that stuck out like that? You felt like

1095
01:08:34,640 --> 01:08:37,280
Speaker 1: they played really well and they deserve recognition because I

1096
01:08:37,280 --> 01:08:41,040
Speaker 1: feel like we're just dumping on on cow when you're

1097
01:08:41,040 --> 01:08:44,400
Speaker 1: so nice, Ralph, you are such I'm asking you. I

1098
01:08:44,439 --> 01:08:47,840
Speaker 1: didn't say that I felt like there was I'm just

1099
01:08:47,880 --> 01:08:54,519
Speaker 1: saying I mean owner Jet Turner continues his perfect season

1100
01:08:54,560 --> 01:09:02,439
Speaker 1: after his meltdown Oregon. Dude, that was a that was awful. Um. Yeah,

1101
01:09:02,479 --> 01:09:06,200
Speaker 1: so I would say, Michael Wilson, I guess even my guy,

1102
01:09:06,280 --> 01:09:15,679
Speaker 1: see me, Fohoko did nothing in this game. Yep three, Um, okay,

1103
01:09:16,080 --> 01:09:18,639
Speaker 1: next game. I just want to plint. Austin Jones scored

1104
01:09:18,720 --> 01:09:21,160
Speaker 1: twice in this game, so normally you'd be like, yeah,

1105
01:09:21,240 --> 01:09:24,160
Speaker 1: this guy had two touchdowns, so we should praise him.

1106
01:09:24,280 --> 01:09:28,000
Speaker 1: His longest run of the day was eight yards, dude.

1107
01:09:28,000 --> 01:09:30,880
Speaker 1: It was it was like it was like watching Oxen

1108
01:09:31,320 --> 01:09:35,519
Speaker 1: move up down the I cannot make that two point

1109
01:09:35,600 --> 01:09:39,759
Speaker 1: seven yards of care. Meanwhile, Cal rushed for two hundred

1110
01:09:39,800 --> 01:09:43,720
Speaker 1: and forty one yards Chase Garver's didn't throw an interception?

1111
01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:47,639
Speaker 1: How in the hell did col with this game? They

1112
01:09:47,640 --> 01:09:50,760
Speaker 1: were and they they got to be feeling pretty bad

1113
01:09:50,800 --> 01:09:55,320
Speaker 1: about this. Tackles ten tackles for their defensive tackle. Brett

1114
01:09:56,280 --> 01:10:01,000
Speaker 1: shout out to Brett, He's a monster, dude. Yeah, it's

1115
01:10:01,040 --> 01:10:06,200
Speaker 1: gonna be interesting to see how uh Oregon plays against

1116
01:10:06,240 --> 01:10:11,679
Speaker 1: cow this week. Um, the other Friday night game? Do

1117
01:10:11,840 --> 01:10:14,800
Speaker 1: we have to talk about this game? I mean you

1118
01:10:14,960 --> 01:10:18,080
Speaker 1: while I watched it at like two in the morning,

1119
01:10:18,600 --> 01:10:22,880
Speaker 1: after already getting several phone calls from you when I

1120
01:10:22,920 --> 01:10:25,960
Speaker 1: was outcovering in high school football game. So I watched

1121
01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:30,360
Speaker 1: the replay of it. I was they was worse than

1122
01:10:30,400 --> 01:10:34,880
Speaker 1: watching a game in standard definitions. Were straight up disappearing

1123
01:10:34,880 --> 01:10:39,719
Speaker 1: on the screen. There were times was no joke when

1124
01:10:39,800 --> 01:10:45,120
Speaker 1: when when shook through the interception, weren't you like you

1125
01:10:45,160 --> 01:10:48,080
Speaker 1: couldn't even see that it was an interception except for

1126
01:10:48,240 --> 01:10:51,760
Speaker 1: the reaction from Oregon State, and you were still confused

1127
01:10:51,760 --> 01:10:53,439
Speaker 1: because you were like, oh, oh, they got off the

1128
01:10:53,479 --> 01:10:55,720
Speaker 1: field on fourth down. They're pretty happy about that. Now.

1129
01:10:55,800 --> 01:10:58,120
Speaker 1: They might as well play this game in Willie Nelson's basement.

1130
01:10:58,200 --> 01:11:02,519
Speaker 1: Like there was no visibility whatsoever. It was crazy, And

1131
01:11:02,600 --> 01:11:06,280
Speaker 1: I mean the funniest part of the game for me

1132
01:11:06,800 --> 01:11:11,479
Speaker 1: was after the game was over seeing a s u

1133
01:11:12,400 --> 01:11:16,479
Speaker 1: uh players from the year where they if all all

1134
01:11:16,520 --> 01:11:19,400
Speaker 1: they had to do was beat Oregon State and they

1135
01:11:19,400 --> 01:11:23,160
Speaker 1: probably would have gone to the College Football Playoff. Uh.

1136
01:11:23,280 --> 01:11:25,960
Speaker 1: Watching all the players who were on that team tweet

1137
01:11:26,080 --> 01:11:29,840
Speaker 1: like PTSD tweets that was that was funny as hell,

1138
01:11:30,240 --> 01:11:35,320
Speaker 1: Like I can't lie, but I felt bad for I

1139
01:11:35,400 --> 01:11:38,839
Speaker 1: just because it looked like they had absolutely no answer

1140
01:11:38,840 --> 01:11:44,240
Speaker 1: for Jamar Jefferson. What. They didn't have an answer for anything.

1141
01:11:45,760 --> 01:11:48,720
Speaker 1: They didn't have an answer for anything. I promise you,

1142
01:11:49,400 --> 01:11:51,960
Speaker 1: I thought this game was over. At the end of

1143
01:11:52,000 --> 01:11:58,799
Speaker 1: the third quarter, Oregon was up thirty one, two thirty

1144
01:11:58,880 --> 01:12:04,720
Speaker 1: one to nineteen. Okay, that they have a two score lead.

1145
01:12:04,920 --> 01:12:08,840
Speaker 1: Defense can't can't stop anybody, so what they like, They're

1146
01:12:08,920 --> 01:12:13,920
Speaker 1: up to two scores Oregon's they could not stop them. Um,

1147
01:12:14,360 --> 01:12:18,879
Speaker 1: and it was just it was Chuck lost the fumble

1148
01:12:19,400 --> 01:12:22,200
Speaker 1: and then he threw two interceptions and it was just

1149
01:12:22,680 --> 01:12:24,720
Speaker 1: and the game was kind of there. I mean, it

1150
01:12:24,840 --> 01:12:29,960
Speaker 1: started out bad for the defense. They had four guys

1151
01:12:30,000 --> 01:12:33,080
Speaker 1: have a chance to tackle Jamar Jefferson first play eighty

1152
01:12:33,160 --> 01:12:36,240
Speaker 1: two yards out the gate. I was turning the television

1153
01:12:36,360 --> 01:12:40,880
Speaker 1: actually because there was a game on before it. And

1154
01:12:40,920 --> 01:12:43,679
Speaker 1: then as soon as it came on, I was like,

1155
01:12:44,240 --> 01:12:46,680
Speaker 1: I saw Jamar Jefferson running. I was like, what the

1156
01:12:46,720 --> 01:12:52,680
Speaker 1: hell happened? Yeah? So can we It started out on

1157
01:12:52,720 --> 01:12:55,600
Speaker 1: a bad note, alright, so we were you and I

1158
01:12:55,640 --> 01:12:58,120
Speaker 1: have given some opinions on both of these teams, on

1159
01:12:58,160 --> 01:13:01,320
Speaker 1: players on both of these teams. Is it time to reassess?

1160
01:13:01,439 --> 01:13:03,439
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna throw a name out there, and and

1161
01:13:04,000 --> 01:13:13,519
Speaker 1: all right, I have been fairly disrespectful of Tristan Jebbia's ability. Uh,

1162
01:13:13,560 --> 01:13:17,519
Speaker 1: he's still bad, Okay, all right, all right, he didn't

1163
01:13:17,520 --> 01:13:19,160
Speaker 1: do it. He didn't really didn't do anything wrong, though

1164
01:13:20,439 --> 01:13:24,000
Speaker 1: he didn't do anything right either. Yeah. I mean he

1165
01:13:24,000 --> 01:13:25,679
Speaker 1: got he got in the end zone a couple of times.

1166
01:13:25,800 --> 01:13:28,519
Speaker 1: He hit Kobe Taylor on a couple of big throws.

1167
01:13:31,280 --> 01:13:36,200
Speaker 1: The everybody was open, Ralph, like everybody was open, Like

1168
01:13:36,200 --> 01:13:42,919
Speaker 1: like like that's not these these are my ducks. However,

1169
01:13:44,280 --> 01:13:49,760
Speaker 1: they're uh. Their third down opponent UH conversion percentage on

1170
01:13:49,840 --> 01:13:58,400
Speaker 1: the year watches down at thirty there UH opponent fourth

1171
01:13:58,439 --> 01:14:09,519
Speaker 1: down versions sixty eight, four for eight four for eight Ralph, Alright,

1172
01:14:09,520 --> 01:14:11,599
Speaker 1: so no, no, no, no, no, no, no no no, I'm sorry.

1173
01:14:11,600 --> 01:14:16,679
Speaker 1: Eight for thirteen, my bad. So the people have got

1174
01:14:16,880 --> 01:14:19,960
Speaker 1: thirteen times they've gone for it on fourth down against Oregon.

1175
01:14:20,760 --> 01:14:26,120
Speaker 1: I mean, wouldn't you you're coaching something that you don't.

1176
01:14:26,960 --> 01:14:28,519
Speaker 1: You don't want the people to know how you would

1177
01:14:28,560 --> 01:14:31,680
Speaker 1: coach against the Ducks, and and and check about this

1178
01:14:31,920 --> 01:14:34,920
Speaker 1: and check this out. Here's the biggest problem with them.

1179
01:14:34,960 --> 01:14:38,519
Speaker 1: They are minus five on the season in the turnover margin.

1180
01:14:38,840 --> 01:14:41,360
Speaker 1: Last year they were like the best turnover team in

1181
01:14:41,439 --> 01:14:44,880
Speaker 1: the Pac twelve. Yeah, yeah, that that shuck. Does there

1182
01:14:45,000 --> 01:14:47,840
Speaker 1: some criticism for for that, definitely? But so what about

1183
01:14:47,920 --> 01:14:50,360
Speaker 1: Jefferson Because we came into this game he was not

1184
01:14:50,439 --> 01:14:53,000
Speaker 1: a top two running back in the pack twelve for you.

1185
01:14:53,560 --> 01:14:54,760
Speaker 1: I don't know if you s topped three, but I

1186
01:14:54,800 --> 01:14:58,360
Speaker 1: know he wasn't top two. No no, no, I did

1187
01:14:58,400 --> 01:15:00,920
Speaker 1: I put up Oh no, no, I I had felt

1188
01:15:01,840 --> 01:15:08,120
Speaker 1: I had bright bright Well one felt into Jamaar Jefferson three. Okay,

1189
01:15:08,560 --> 01:15:12,519
Speaker 1: So here here is my issue there is that I

1190
01:15:12,600 --> 01:15:20,800
Speaker 1: can't fairly assess Gary Brightwell when when Arizona's offense looks

1191
01:15:20,840 --> 01:15:25,719
Speaker 1: like this, like with Will Plumber in you you couldn't

1192
01:15:25,800 --> 01:15:28,760
Speaker 1: run the ball because they knew he couldn't throw it. Oh,

1193
01:15:28,920 --> 01:15:31,640
Speaker 1: so what you're saying is you're not like rivals. You

1194
01:15:31,680 --> 01:15:37,479
Speaker 1: would not penalize somebody for not having data. No, no, no,

1195
01:15:37,680 --> 01:15:41,120
Speaker 1: I I am so I'm going to put no I

1196
01:15:41,160 --> 01:15:47,880
Speaker 1: am No, I'm not. I'm not stupid stupid. Um dimetric Felton,

1197
01:15:48,400 --> 01:15:53,759
Speaker 1: number one running back in the pack twell thirty two carries,

1198
01:15:53,760 --> 01:15:59,320
Speaker 1: two six yards and a touchdown. Um, and you have

1199
01:16:00,120 --> 01:16:03,160
Speaker 1: and he's doing against everybody every week. They know they're

1200
01:16:03,200 --> 01:16:07,719
Speaker 1: gonna run it all of that. Second best is Jamar Jefferson. Okay,

1201
01:16:07,840 --> 01:16:11,920
Speaker 1: who's who's clearly a good up back. But to a

1202
01:16:11,960 --> 01:16:18,000
Speaker 1: recap and finish off the Oregon game, Travis Died. No,

1203
01:16:18,280 --> 01:16:21,240
Speaker 1: we're not talking about Travis Die yet. What do you

1204
01:16:21,320 --> 01:16:23,600
Speaker 1: what do you want to talk about about him? He

1205
01:16:23,600 --> 01:16:29,960
Speaker 1: he had he had ninety three yards. Okay. He has

1206
01:16:30,080 --> 01:16:35,240
Speaker 1: thirty six thirty six offensive touches on the season mhm

1207
01:16:35,280 --> 01:16:41,240
Speaker 1: for three hundred eighty four yards. He's averaging ten yards

1208
01:16:41,240 --> 01:16:46,719
Speaker 1: of touch for four touchdowns, and he scored a touchdown

1209
01:16:47,360 --> 01:16:50,720
Speaker 1: once every nine touches. Yeah, but I mean you are right.

1210
01:16:50,760 --> 01:16:54,800
Speaker 1: He did throw one incomplete pass, So I guess he's garbage.

1211
01:16:55,680 --> 01:16:58,760
Speaker 1: I'm not calling the kid garbage. I like him, but

1212
01:16:58,880 --> 01:17:01,800
Speaker 1: out of the Dye brother, he's the lesser of the two. Okay,

1213
01:17:01,800 --> 01:17:04,760
Speaker 1: well I didn't that's what we're talking about. No, no, no,

1214
01:17:04,800 --> 01:17:07,680
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like, Okay, I'm gonna be honest. I

1215
01:17:07,760 --> 01:17:10,720
Speaker 1: do not think Oregon has an elite running back that

1216
01:17:10,760 --> 01:17:13,680
Speaker 1: they have played. I don't think Travis dies elite. I

1217
01:17:13,720 --> 01:17:16,879
Speaker 1: don't think c. J. Ver Verdel is elite or Cyrus

1218
01:17:16,840 --> 01:17:19,559
Speaker 1: who Bibi leakyo. But they're still better than the Washington

1219
01:17:19,640 --> 01:17:28,600
Speaker 1: running backs. Um. I'm just saying, um, yeah, So it's amazing.

1220
01:17:29,080 --> 01:17:31,479
Speaker 1: Do you know what? It's weird to me? So I'm

1221
01:17:31,479 --> 01:17:33,840
Speaker 1: looking at the scoring, right, I'm looking at the scoring

1222
01:17:33,880 --> 01:17:36,719
Speaker 1: in the PAC twelve. Oregon has the number one scoring

1223
01:17:36,760 --> 01:17:40,800
Speaker 1: offense in the PAC twelve at thirty eight points a game. Um,

1224
01:17:40,840 --> 01:17:43,599
Speaker 1: but didn't it feel weird and they've scored the most

1225
01:17:43,600 --> 01:17:48,120
Speaker 1: points hundred and fifty four points? Doesn't it feel weird though?

1226
01:17:48,520 --> 01:17:53,400
Speaker 1: Like it's like like they've had the most touchdowns twenty

1227
01:17:53,400 --> 01:17:56,840
Speaker 1: one touchdowns. But it just feels weird, Like it doesn't

1228
01:17:56,880 --> 01:17:59,000
Speaker 1: feel it. It doesn't because a lot of their drives

1229
01:17:59,000 --> 01:18:01,920
Speaker 1: have been very much article like, there has not been

1230
01:18:01,920 --> 01:18:05,720
Speaker 1: as much explosive. It just goes to show you like

1231
01:18:06,160 --> 01:18:10,280
Speaker 1: more Head is for real correct because it doesn't even

1232
01:18:10,320 --> 01:18:15,160
Speaker 1: feel like they're at their full potential yet. And they correct, Yeah,

1233
01:18:15,200 --> 01:18:17,679
Speaker 1: because if when when you look at it on paper,

1234
01:18:18,479 --> 01:18:23,200
Speaker 1: on their on their stats, nobody's just like standing out

1235
01:18:23,280 --> 01:18:28,120
Speaker 1: in the in their team team stats, they're um, they're

1236
01:18:28,200 --> 01:18:32,680
Speaker 1: leading what they're leading, well, obviously Tyler Tyler Stockers, they're

1237
01:18:32,760 --> 01:18:35,200
Speaker 1: leading past Or, he's the only pastor so so far,

1238
01:18:35,640 --> 01:18:40,120
Speaker 1: but um c J. Verdell. So they have three rushers

1239
01:18:40,120 --> 01:18:44,479
Speaker 1: with two hundred yards Chuck die in Verdell. And then

1240
01:18:44,760 --> 01:18:49,439
Speaker 1: in terms of catches, they have a guy with sixteen thirteen, twelve, nine,

1241
01:18:49,560 --> 01:18:52,960
Speaker 1: eight seven, you know, all the way down and it

1242
01:18:52,960 --> 01:18:57,560
Speaker 1: feels weird right like you don't. It doesn't look like

1243
01:18:57,560 --> 01:19:01,120
Speaker 1: like a it's just a collective heard of guys who

1244
01:19:01,120 --> 01:19:04,120
Speaker 1: were just scoring a lot of points and it doesn't

1245
01:19:04,160 --> 01:19:07,080
Speaker 1: feel like that they've scored as many points as it seems,

1246
01:19:07,600 --> 01:19:10,000
Speaker 1: I mean, as the as the results show. So here's

1247
01:19:10,000 --> 01:19:13,120
Speaker 1: my question. Do you think there's a possibility that Morehead

1248
01:19:13,160 --> 01:19:20,759
Speaker 1: could go one and done? Um? No, because he flamed

1249
01:19:20,760 --> 01:19:24,160
Speaker 1: out pretty bad at uh where were there at a

1250
01:19:24,240 --> 01:19:28,479
Speaker 1: Mississippi State. I think he's a two season guy. I

1251
01:19:28,479 --> 01:19:33,680
Speaker 1: mean he's like a Sarkisian at at Alabama, you know,

1252
01:19:33,840 --> 01:19:37,280
Speaker 1: like you need. Obviously he doesn't have the demons that

1253
01:19:37,280 --> 01:19:40,400
Speaker 1: that sarc had in his last stop. But but there

1254
01:19:40,560 --> 01:19:50,519
Speaker 1: is something too to that. Yeah, um, alright, so yeah,

1255
01:19:50,560 --> 01:19:53,080
Speaker 1: and you clearly have Oregon State better than Oregon, even

1256
01:19:53,080 --> 01:19:57,600
Speaker 1: though nobody would have brain would think that. But that's okay, Um,

1257
01:19:57,640 --> 01:20:01,240
Speaker 1: all right, Arizona at U c l A. As you

1258
01:20:01,280 --> 01:20:05,800
Speaker 1: can see, I'm not bitter about this game at all. Um, Arizona. Well,

1259
01:20:06,120 --> 01:20:09,880
Speaker 1: you say a beat Arizona seven to ten. You had

1260
01:20:09,880 --> 01:20:13,280
Speaker 1: Di Metric Felton show out change. Oh, don't talk about

1261
01:20:13,360 --> 01:20:16,640
Speaker 1: Chase Griffin not doing anything. He was. He threw a touchdown.

1262
01:20:16,720 --> 01:20:20,840
Speaker 1: He was twelve or twenty. This is the classic case

1263
01:20:20,920 --> 01:20:24,160
Speaker 1: of taking care of a quarterback. They you U c

1264
01:20:24,320 --> 01:20:29,679
Speaker 1: l A ran the ball fifty six times. Fifty six.

1265
01:20:29,840 --> 01:20:34,920
Speaker 1: It's not even close like rushing offense. That's what I understand.

1266
01:20:36,360 --> 01:20:40,360
Speaker 1: I don't even know if I would throw. U c

1267
01:20:40,479 --> 01:20:43,160
Speaker 1: l A has run the ball a hundred and eighty

1268
01:20:43,320 --> 01:20:48,240
Speaker 1: six times this season. That is forty two more times

1269
01:20:48,280 --> 01:20:50,960
Speaker 1: than Oregon. Oh no, no, I'm sorry. The only other

1270
01:20:51,000 --> 01:20:54,000
Speaker 1: team that the next team that's closest to them, that

1271
01:20:54,320 --> 01:20:58,120
Speaker 1: is Colorado, who they've run the ball twenty nine more times.

1272
01:20:58,560 --> 01:21:02,120
Speaker 1: Then next is Oregon, who they've running forty two more times,

1273
01:21:02,520 --> 01:21:05,040
Speaker 1: and then it falls way off from the I mean

1274
01:21:05,040 --> 01:21:07,920
Speaker 1: even down to Oregon State. They've run the ball almost

1275
01:21:08,000 --> 01:21:15,280
Speaker 1: fifty times more than Oregon State has. It's unbelievable. I

1276
01:21:15,640 --> 01:21:19,280
Speaker 1: don't I don't know what to say. I just uh,

1277
01:21:19,479 --> 01:21:23,920
Speaker 1: this game was really hard to watch. It was it

1278
01:21:24,040 --> 01:21:29,920
Speaker 1: was rough. It was because Danelle gets hurt. Immediately they

1279
01:21:29,920 --> 01:21:32,400
Speaker 1: bring in will Plumber, and I'm fired up about that

1280
01:21:32,439 --> 01:21:36,320
Speaker 1: because I've been watching Will Plumber for years. There was

1281
01:21:36,439 --> 01:21:38,920
Speaker 1: there was some a while there when they thought that

1282
01:21:38,960 --> 01:21:41,360
Speaker 1: maybe he'd be a safety or something like that. And

1283
01:21:41,400 --> 01:21:44,360
Speaker 1: the first thing Will Plumber does is I think he

1284
01:21:44,439 --> 01:21:47,600
Speaker 1: runs the ball for a first down, has the ability

1285
01:21:47,640 --> 01:21:49,559
Speaker 1: to go out of bounds, does not take it, and

1286
01:21:49,640 --> 01:21:52,920
Speaker 1: tries to truck a defender. And I was like, oh man,

1287
01:21:53,000 --> 01:21:56,559
Speaker 1: you gotta have some you gotta have some awareness in

1288
01:21:56,640 --> 01:21:59,200
Speaker 1: this situation. And that's just kind of the way that

1289
01:21:59,320 --> 01:22:03,320
Speaker 1: he aid The rest of the game kind of a

1290
01:22:03,360 --> 01:22:07,639
Speaker 1: little bit a little bit reckless. Um. Definitely a little

1291
01:22:07,640 --> 01:22:10,880
Speaker 1: bit young for the moment. His brother. His brother is

1292
01:22:10,920 --> 01:22:13,479
Speaker 1: the starting quarterback, I think due to injury for per

1293
01:22:13,560 --> 01:22:15,479
Speaker 1: Due for a few games last year, and then he

1294
01:22:15,520 --> 01:22:19,559
Speaker 1: also was this last weekend. Um and uh, it was

1295
01:22:19,640 --> 01:22:22,960
Speaker 1: weird as somebody who grew up watching the Jake the

1296
01:22:23,040 --> 01:22:25,800
Speaker 1: Snake at Arizona State see a plumber with a you

1297
01:22:25,920 --> 01:22:30,439
Speaker 1: have a jersey on? That was definitely bizarre. Um that

1298
01:22:30,520 --> 01:22:33,320
Speaker 1: you know that that's that'd be like having a Gronkowski

1299
01:22:33,360 --> 01:22:35,840
Speaker 1: at a s U or something like that. Uh. And

1300
01:22:35,920 --> 01:22:39,640
Speaker 1: so you know, I it was an interesting experience. I

1301
01:22:39,680 --> 01:22:45,040
Speaker 1: will say they had absolutely no answer for Felton Um,

1302
01:22:45,080 --> 01:22:49,920
Speaker 1: which we knew going in the talent level. Um, it's

1303
01:22:49,960 --> 01:22:52,360
Speaker 1: just a lot lower. And now you have Kevin someone

1304
01:22:52,479 --> 01:22:57,760
Speaker 1: having lost ten consecutive games at University of Arizona. I

1305
01:22:57,840 --> 01:23:00,200
Speaker 1: don't know what they're gonna do to write the ship here.

1306
01:23:00,520 --> 01:23:03,760
Speaker 1: I don't know what shape Grant Gannel's in. I did

1307
01:23:03,800 --> 01:23:06,040
Speaker 1: see that his teammate hit his shoulder. Did you see

1308
01:23:06,040 --> 01:23:09,200
Speaker 1: that clip? His teammate patted him on the shoulder while

1309
01:23:09,200 --> 01:23:10,760
Speaker 1: they were standing on the sideline, and he just had

1310
01:23:10,760 --> 01:23:12,439
Speaker 1: this look kind of stage like why the hell would

1311
01:23:12,479 --> 01:23:16,760
Speaker 1: you do that? Oh? Yeah, yeah, dude, that yeah, that

1312
01:23:16,920 --> 01:23:19,519
Speaker 1: was terrible, Like that's that's one of them when they

1313
01:23:19,560 --> 01:23:21,680
Speaker 1: smacked people in the head after they had a concoined Yeah.

1314
01:23:21,760 --> 01:23:23,400
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, and that was it just kind of sums

1315
01:23:23,439 --> 01:23:26,120
Speaker 1: up the whole situation down a down at you have

1316
01:23:26,200 --> 01:23:29,880
Speaker 1: eight And then after the game, their leading receiver was

1317
01:23:29,960 --> 01:23:33,000
Speaker 1: Drew Dixon, who's a former four star recruit out of

1318
01:23:33,040 --> 01:23:36,559
Speaker 1: the city of Tucson, and he after the game he

1319
01:23:36,640 --> 01:23:41,479
Speaker 1: opted out the rest of the season. What does that say? Yeah,

1320
01:23:41,560 --> 01:23:44,639
Speaker 1: he was like, I'm I'm going I mean, like, okay,

1321
01:23:44,640 --> 01:23:46,679
Speaker 1: so what do you make of what's going on with

1322
01:23:46,680 --> 01:23:51,000
Speaker 1: with someone there? They've lost ten consecutive games, dude, Like

1323
01:23:51,160 --> 01:23:57,040
Speaker 1: they're at ten consecutive ten Yeah, a lot of people,

1324
01:23:57,800 --> 01:24:02,439
Speaker 1: how do you lose double digit games? I don't know, man,

1325
01:24:03,320 --> 01:24:05,960
Speaker 1: So a lot of You should never lose more games

1326
01:24:06,000 --> 01:24:09,720
Speaker 1: than whatever your salary is. There are many millions that

1327
01:24:09,760 --> 01:24:14,320
Speaker 1: you're being paid. That should be the line where your

1328
01:24:14,360 --> 01:24:22,120
Speaker 1: contract becomes like no longer guaranteed. That's a good rule. Yeah, yeah,

1329
01:24:22,320 --> 01:24:25,120
Speaker 1: Like you like, you lose a year of guaranteed money

1330
01:24:25,120 --> 01:24:28,000
Speaker 1: if you lose the amount of games that you're kind

1331
01:24:28,040 --> 01:24:30,559
Speaker 1: of the amount of millions that your contract is. Yeah,

1332
01:24:30,600 --> 01:24:33,120
Speaker 1: I just I've never seen a team that has such

1333
01:24:33,280 --> 01:24:39,720
Speaker 1: disproportionate depth, Like they have no linebackers at all. They

1334
01:24:40,000 --> 01:24:43,360
Speaker 1: they have no defensive line at all, they have no

1335
01:24:43,520 --> 01:24:47,280
Speaker 1: offensive line at all. They have running backs for days.

1336
01:24:48,120 --> 01:24:52,639
Speaker 1: How do you do that? Like, this team is just

1337
01:24:53,360 --> 01:24:55,680
Speaker 1: They're a mess, man, They're an absolute mess. And I

1338
01:24:55,680 --> 01:24:58,479
Speaker 1: don't really know what the fix is going to be.

1339
01:24:58,520 --> 01:25:02,040
Speaker 1: I mean, you have Chip Kelly, so we we had

1340
01:25:02,040 --> 01:25:03,519
Speaker 1: talked about the fact that, you know, I felt like

1341
01:25:03,560 --> 01:25:05,439
Speaker 1: this was really going to be the year that Chip

1342
01:25:05,520 --> 01:25:08,200
Speaker 1: Kelly and the team take a step forward and and

1343
01:25:08,200 --> 01:25:10,120
Speaker 1: and find a little bit more identity, build a little

1344
01:25:10,200 --> 01:25:13,439
Speaker 1: more culture, set themselves up for the future. But then

1345
01:25:13,479 --> 01:25:15,800
Speaker 1: they come and they play University of Arizona, and it's like, man,

1346
01:25:15,880 --> 01:25:18,559
Speaker 1: is this fool's gold? Because this team is not good.

1347
01:25:19,320 --> 01:25:21,960
Speaker 1: They're just not not at all the good football team.

1348
01:25:21,960 --> 01:25:24,840
Speaker 1: And you take Grant Gannelle out of the equation, and

1349
01:25:24,880 --> 01:25:27,320
Speaker 1: I think that Will Plumber could be something exciting for

1350
01:25:27,360 --> 01:25:31,200
Speaker 1: them in the future, just not not now. Yeah, they're not.

1351
01:25:31,320 --> 01:25:33,600
Speaker 1: You don't you don't bring a freshman quarterback in with

1352
01:25:33,680 --> 01:25:38,200
Speaker 1: that offensive line. You don't do it. And so well

1353
01:25:38,240 --> 01:25:41,439
Speaker 1: they well they tried to do with Grant Grant Gannell too.

1354
01:25:41,479 --> 01:25:44,280
Speaker 1: It didn't work there there either. And this is the

1355
01:25:44,280 --> 01:25:48,360
Speaker 1: most important recruiting class in in University of Arizona history.

1356
01:25:48,360 --> 01:25:51,960
Speaker 1: I think because this upcoming recruiting class that they have

1357
01:25:52,320 --> 01:25:54,599
Speaker 1: is gonna be the difference between whether or not they

1358
01:25:54,600 --> 01:25:57,880
Speaker 1: can win five games three years from now, or whether

1359
01:25:57,960 --> 01:26:00,639
Speaker 1: or not they're going to have like an Oregon State

1360
01:26:00,720 --> 01:26:04,120
Speaker 1: run of three wins is a good season for like

1361
01:26:04,280 --> 01:26:08,400
Speaker 1: six straight years. Yeah, and they I don't feel like

1362
01:26:08,439 --> 01:26:10,360
Speaker 1: they should be in that situation at all, not with

1363
01:26:10,400 --> 01:26:15,000
Speaker 1: the talent explosion of Arizona high school football, which they

1364
01:26:15,040 --> 01:26:17,519
Speaker 1: do an absolute pisspoard job at recruiting, by the way,

1365
01:26:17,800 --> 01:26:21,400
Speaker 1: Uh not with San Diego right there, not with your

1366
01:26:21,520 --> 01:26:26,160
Speaker 1: ties into the state of Texas and not. It just

1367
01:26:26,360 --> 01:26:29,200
Speaker 1: none of this makes sense. Absolutely none of this makes sense.

1368
01:26:29,439 --> 01:26:31,639
Speaker 1: And even the way that they're building their team through

1369
01:26:31,760 --> 01:26:34,439
Speaker 1: this recruiting class doesn't feel like they're building for the future.

1370
01:26:34,960 --> 01:26:37,519
Speaker 1: It just feels like they're taking kids to take kids.

1371
01:26:37,680 --> 01:26:41,200
Speaker 1: And I don't I don't know. And they don't have

1372
01:26:41,280 --> 01:26:44,880
Speaker 1: the means, they don't have the financial ability to actually

1373
01:26:45,280 --> 01:26:49,160
Speaker 1: make a change at head coach. They've already furloughed a

1374
01:26:49,160 --> 01:26:51,120
Speaker 1: bunch of people and cut salaries and stuff. They don't

1375
01:26:51,120 --> 01:26:55,559
Speaker 1: have the money to buy somebody out. So unless unless

1376
01:26:55,560 --> 01:26:58,280
Speaker 1: a donor steps in and they actually pay out of

1377
01:26:58,320 --> 01:27:01,519
Speaker 1: pocket for a buyout, it's not happening. And University of

1378
01:27:01,520 --> 01:27:06,360
Speaker 1: Arizona does have several billionaires who are alumni of that school,

1379
01:27:06,880 --> 01:27:09,880
Speaker 1: so maybe they can hit one of them up, but don't, no, dude,

1380
01:27:09,880 --> 01:27:14,559
Speaker 1: in this economy, it's not happening. Yeah, well, well we

1381
01:27:14,560 --> 01:27:19,559
Speaker 1: well we're gonna see Texas probably fork over million dollars

1382
01:27:19,560 --> 01:27:24,479
Speaker 1: to get rid of Tom Herman plus uh yeah, so yeah,

1383
01:27:24,520 --> 01:27:29,600
Speaker 1: so Tom Herman plus the dog on um whatever it

1384
01:27:29,640 --> 01:27:32,639
Speaker 1: costs to buy out whoever they get. Because I don't

1385
01:27:32,640 --> 01:27:36,400
Speaker 1: think Urban Meyers walking through that door. Yeah yeah, they

1386
01:27:36,439 --> 01:27:40,680
Speaker 1: are an absolute unmitigated disaster. Uh. The last game up

1387
01:27:40,680 --> 01:27:45,120
Speaker 1: in the pack twelve because they because Colorado beats San

1388
01:27:45,160 --> 01:27:47,000
Speaker 1: Diego State. I don't even know if we need to

1389
01:27:47,040 --> 01:27:51,040
Speaker 1: even like go too much further into that. Jared Brussarry

1390
01:27:51,120 --> 01:27:56,440
Speaker 1: had another good rushing day. Sam Noyer was pretty efficient.

1391
01:27:56,600 --> 01:28:01,800
Speaker 1: I get ish seventeen one, touched down one interception, but

1392
01:28:01,960 --> 01:28:05,920
Speaker 1: they did book the game on like two days d.

1393
01:28:06,040 --> 01:28:10,200
Speaker 1: Kudos to the Aztecs for going to Boulder. Kudos to

1394
01:28:10,400 --> 01:28:13,920
Speaker 1: Colorado for scheduling San Diego State. If I was a

1395
01:28:13,920 --> 01:28:17,759
Speaker 1: Pack twelve team, I would never play them ever again. Um.

1396
01:28:17,960 --> 01:28:20,760
Speaker 1: San Diego State showed up without their quarterback from the

1397
01:28:20,800 --> 01:28:26,040
Speaker 1: previous week, and it showed their offense was abysmal. There

1398
01:28:26,080 --> 01:28:29,759
Speaker 1: wasn't really anything they could do. The prettiest thing about

1399
01:28:29,960 --> 01:28:32,639
Speaker 1: the game that San Diego State played on the offensive

1400
01:28:32,680 --> 01:28:35,559
Speaker 1: side of the football was the tweet they sent out

1401
01:28:35,600 --> 01:28:37,639
Speaker 1: before the game of one of their players running into

1402
01:28:37,680 --> 01:28:41,120
Speaker 1: a buffalo. I thought that was pretty funny. Um. The

1403
01:28:41,240 --> 01:28:44,240
Speaker 1: defense played well though. I mean, even without Rocky Long

1404
01:28:44,360 --> 01:28:46,919
Speaker 1: that they really seem to know what they're doing defensive

1405
01:28:46,960 --> 01:28:49,759
Speaker 1: They have a great identity. Sam Noyer made a couple

1406
01:28:49,800 --> 01:28:52,840
Speaker 1: of throws that were um that we're right on the

1407
01:28:52,880 --> 01:28:56,040
Speaker 1: money early in the game, and brus Sard had a

1408
01:28:56,080 --> 01:28:59,400
Speaker 1: couple of runs in the first quarter that I genuinely

1409
01:28:59,400 --> 01:29:01,639
Speaker 1: thought we were kind at a blowout, but San Diego

1410
01:29:01,680 --> 01:29:04,640
Speaker 1: State held tough. They had to pick six. That's a

1411
01:29:04,640 --> 01:29:09,520
Speaker 1: good team, man. It's obviously they've been weakened by injury

1412
01:29:09,520 --> 01:29:11,920
Speaker 1: and not really knowing who they're playing from week to week.

1413
01:29:11,960 --> 01:29:14,160
Speaker 1: But that's not a team I would ever trifle with.

1414
01:29:14,280 --> 01:29:18,640
Speaker 1: So I I give Colorado the credit for for scheduling

1415
01:29:18,680 --> 01:29:21,200
Speaker 1: that game and for getting the w I mean, I

1416
01:29:21,280 --> 01:29:25,400
Speaker 1: think you have to give them some praise. Yeah, I

1417
01:29:25,479 --> 01:29:30,160
Speaker 1: agree with you there. Um. The last game was the

1418
01:29:30,280 --> 01:29:33,559
Speaker 1: Utah Washington game, which was another game that you know,

1419
01:29:33,800 --> 01:29:40,599
Speaker 1: got got put together. Um, Utah went up and then

1420
01:29:40,960 --> 01:29:44,519
Speaker 1: just absolutely fell apart in the second half. Part of

1421
01:29:44,560 --> 01:29:50,000
Speaker 1: that had to do with Washington. I'm sorry with Utahs. Um,

1422
01:29:50,080 --> 01:29:54,040
Speaker 1: I'm sorry with Washington's defense. They did play really well,

1423
01:29:54,520 --> 01:29:56,640
Speaker 1: but Utah was able to run the ball. They ran

1424
01:29:56,720 --> 01:29:59,600
Speaker 1: for two d and fifteen yards five yards to carry,

1425
01:29:59,720 --> 01:30:02,639
Speaker 1: So if you are Washington, you have to be concerned

1426
01:30:02,640 --> 01:30:08,880
Speaker 1: about that. Um. We knew that Utah wasn't too efficient

1427
01:30:09,000 --> 01:30:12,400
Speaker 1: passing the football. They got in passing situations in the

1428
01:30:12,400 --> 01:30:15,439
Speaker 1: second half and they couldn't could convert. He threw two

1429
01:30:15,479 --> 01:30:19,200
Speaker 1: picks and um and he and he also fumbled Jake

1430
01:30:19,360 --> 01:30:23,200
Speaker 1: Jake Bentley. So those three turnovers hurt the team, even

1431
01:30:23,240 --> 01:30:25,120
Speaker 1: though the one was in the first half. But us

1432
01:30:25,120 --> 01:30:31,200
Speaker 1: still and Dylan Morris, Washington's quarterback, thirty eight to seventy two,

1433
01:30:31,600 --> 01:30:35,439
Speaker 1: two touchdowns, three picks. The thing. I don't like that kid.

1434
01:30:35,800 --> 01:30:41,760
Speaker 1: He's he's annoying to me because no, dude, because he

1435
01:30:41,880 --> 01:30:47,679
Speaker 1: does the Jayden Daniels ice water and I saw that sucked,

1436
01:30:48,000 --> 01:30:50,840
Speaker 1: like you sucked the entire game, dude, Like, don't act

1437
01:30:50,920 --> 01:30:54,160
Speaker 1: like oh like now, I'm like you you know I

1438
01:30:54,280 --> 01:30:57,600
Speaker 1: do this. I do do chill like, okay, you you

1439
01:30:57,680 --> 01:31:01,479
Speaker 1: got lucky. I respected to swam and I understand the

1440
01:31:01,479 --> 01:31:04,360
Speaker 1: heat of the moment um. He made some big boy

1441
01:31:04,400 --> 01:31:06,919
Speaker 1: throws in that second half. You have to give him that. However,

1442
01:31:07,960 --> 01:31:14,840
Speaker 1: I do not respect using uh an already existing Pack

1443
01:31:15,000 --> 01:31:19,879
Speaker 1: twelve celebration, Like I thought that was a little bit corny.

1444
01:31:20,200 --> 01:31:23,080
Speaker 1: I did. I did think about that when he was

1445
01:31:23,120 --> 01:31:27,720
Speaker 1: doing that's Jade Daniels celebration. That my immediate thought when

1446
01:31:27,720 --> 01:31:29,240
Speaker 1: I saw him do it. I was like, oh, Jaden,

1447
01:31:29,520 --> 01:31:32,559
Speaker 1: like why why, why woun't you do something? And Jade

1448
01:31:32,640 --> 01:31:35,960
Speaker 1: Daniels did it. When Jade Daniels was like, was like

1449
01:31:36,800 --> 01:31:42,439
Speaker 1: twelve for nineteen with zero touchdown, zero picks, the team

1450
01:31:42,479 --> 01:31:45,080
Speaker 1: has a hundred and fifty yards of total offense, and

1451
01:31:45,120 --> 01:31:47,280
Speaker 1: then they go down and score to win, and he

1452
01:31:47,400 --> 01:31:52,760
Speaker 1: made some personal heroic play and it's I think that

1453
01:31:52,880 --> 01:31:55,920
Speaker 1: Jaden Daniels actually has ice water in his veins because

1454
01:31:55,920 --> 01:31:59,360
Speaker 1: he or he's on mood stabilizers or something during the game,

1455
01:31:59,720 --> 01:32:03,120
Speaker 1: becaus you can't you Also, that's the thing about the

1456
01:32:03,160 --> 01:32:06,799
Speaker 1: ice water in your veins. You can't over celebrate because

1457
01:32:06,960 --> 01:32:11,200
Speaker 1: you don't actually care because you just believe that it

1458
01:32:11,240 --> 01:32:14,719
Speaker 1: will happen. Jane Daniels doesn't shoot it in his hand,

1459
01:32:14,800 --> 01:32:20,840
Speaker 1: so like, no, that's like a beIN injection or whatever.

1460
01:32:20,960 --> 01:32:22,640
Speaker 1: So I know, I'm I'm with you there, But you

1461
01:32:22,680 --> 01:32:25,200
Speaker 1: have to admit a couple of those throws and it

1462
01:32:25,240 --> 01:32:27,479
Speaker 1: helps having Katon on your team. Holy hell, that guy

1463
01:32:27,520 --> 01:32:29,760
Speaker 1: is good. But a couple of those throws were like

1464
01:32:29,800 --> 01:32:36,240
Speaker 1: where was that in the first half? Yeah, he fed

1465
01:32:36,280 --> 01:32:41,280
Speaker 1: off some energy, Utah busted some coverages. Kay Dotten is

1466
01:32:41,320 --> 01:32:44,719
Speaker 1: a monster. That's the answer to the story. Kay Dotten

1467
01:32:44,920 --> 01:32:47,920
Speaker 1: was better than everybody on their defense. He was better

1468
01:32:47,960 --> 01:32:52,520
Speaker 1: than Napi sul whoever the safeties that were garding him.

1469
01:32:52,560 --> 01:32:59,719
Speaker 1: But um um yeah, and I really like um uh

1470
01:33:00,120 --> 01:33:06,559
Speaker 1: you I'm sorry um Washington's d N d N slash

1471
01:33:06,640 --> 01:33:12,479
Speaker 1: outside linebacker uh to allow for um for two. Yeah,

1472
01:33:12,520 --> 01:33:14,120
Speaker 1: this is the three three weeks in a row that

1473
01:33:14,120 --> 01:33:16,200
Speaker 1: we struggled with his name. If he's gonna keep being

1474
01:33:16,200 --> 01:33:18,720
Speaker 1: this good, we we gotta get we gotta get me

1475
01:33:18,880 --> 01:33:22,080
Speaker 1: down for sure. Yeah, because if he's gonna be all

1476
01:33:22,120 --> 01:33:25,600
Speaker 1: we're talking about, he's a monster. Yeah. Yeah, because I

1477
01:33:25,640 --> 01:33:28,559
Speaker 1: had already had old officio down because I thought he

1478
01:33:28,640 --> 01:33:31,200
Speaker 1: was gonna be the guy. But now he's getting over shadow.

1479
01:33:32,000 --> 01:33:35,639
Speaker 1: Um can we so we can we talk about this? Uh,

1480
01:33:35,920 --> 01:33:38,920
Speaker 1: you shouldn't be allowed to if you have a running

1481
01:33:38,920 --> 01:33:44,640
Speaker 1: back on your team that has the first name Jordan's,

1482
01:33:45,160 --> 01:33:47,840
Speaker 1: you should not be able to recruit another running back

1483
01:33:47,920 --> 01:33:51,000
Speaker 1: with the last name Jordan's. Because I and maybe it's

1484
01:33:51,000 --> 01:33:56,040
Speaker 1: because I'm an idiot, but I got so confused. Turned

1485
01:33:56,080 --> 01:33:59,519
Speaker 1: the Utah game, so ty Jordan was their leading rusher,

1486
01:34:00,439 --> 01:34:05,960
Speaker 1: but he's also the one that fumbled Jordan's. Yeah, but

1487
01:34:06,040 --> 01:34:10,639
Speaker 1: Jordan Wilmore had a terrible game. Yes, Okay, So I

1488
01:34:10,720 --> 01:34:15,479
Speaker 1: was all yeah, because thy Jordan's is the freshman. He's

1489
01:34:15,520 --> 01:34:19,040
Speaker 1: the true freshman from Florida, right, and Jordan Wilmore is

1490
01:34:19,080 --> 01:34:22,719
Speaker 1: a sophomore who played a lot as a freshman. I think, yeah,

1491
01:34:23,800 --> 01:34:28,040
Speaker 1: he's amore, He's he's the one with the dreads. I

1492
01:34:28,080 --> 01:34:29,840
Speaker 1: was I'm not gonna lie. Like, there are points in

1493
01:34:29,880 --> 01:34:31,599
Speaker 1: this game when I was like, Okay, what the hell

1494
01:34:31,720 --> 01:34:34,160
Speaker 1: is happening here? Like is Jordan having a good game

1495
01:34:34,240 --> 01:34:37,280
Speaker 1: or a bad game? And uh yeah, and then I

1496
01:34:37,280 --> 01:34:41,599
Speaker 1: mean obviously I'm an idiot. So but when when when

1497
01:34:41,680 --> 01:34:44,880
Speaker 1: Jordan's fumbled, I was like, man, that's just the cherry

1498
01:34:44,920 --> 01:34:46,760
Speaker 1: on a on a ship Sunday of a terrible game.

1499
01:34:46,760 --> 01:34:48,360
Speaker 1: At the end, I was like, oh, nos, it was

1500
01:34:48,400 --> 01:34:51,840
Speaker 1: thy Jordan's like he he almost rushed for a hundred

1501
01:34:51,920 --> 01:34:56,040
Speaker 1: yards and then he had the one mistake. Um, so

1502
01:34:56,080 --> 01:34:58,680
Speaker 1: that was pretty brutal. That is gonna be good. That

1503
01:34:58,760 --> 01:35:01,320
Speaker 1: kid is gonna be good. Didn't feel like it didn't

1504
01:35:01,320 --> 01:35:04,840
Speaker 1: feel like for the whole second half to you, like

1505
01:35:04,880 --> 01:35:11,080
Speaker 1: Washington was gonna win the game. No, uh, it didn't

1506
01:35:11,600 --> 01:35:13,640
Speaker 1: hit me to the fourth quarter when I was like,

1507
01:35:13,720 --> 01:35:17,719
Speaker 1: oh wait wait, Actually it was when Utah turned the ball,

1508
01:35:17,880 --> 01:35:20,800
Speaker 1: when they fumbled the ball and they were going in

1509
01:35:20,840 --> 01:35:23,080
Speaker 1: to go score. That's when I was like, oh, Washington

1510
01:35:23,120 --> 01:35:24,720
Speaker 1: is gonna win this football guy. Yeah, that was the time.

1511
01:35:24,760 --> 01:35:27,240
Speaker 1: That was a ty Jordan fumble. Yeah that was yeah,

1512
01:35:27,240 --> 01:35:29,599
Speaker 1: because they were going to either kick a field goal

1513
01:35:29,720 --> 01:35:34,000
Speaker 1: or score a touchdown. So that that bumble was terrible

1514
01:35:34,400 --> 01:35:37,200
Speaker 1: and it wasn't so then, But I mean also, Utah

1515
01:35:37,280 --> 01:35:39,960
Speaker 1: just failed to capitalize on the fact that Dylan Morris

1516
01:35:40,160 --> 01:35:44,960
Speaker 1: threw a pick at the end of the game, when

1517
01:35:45,040 --> 01:35:50,000
Speaker 1: Vonte Davis picked off a terrible underthrow of of Ty Jones.

1518
01:35:50,800 --> 01:35:53,920
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, I can't. I need to know

1519
01:35:53,960 --> 01:35:56,720
Speaker 1: who the real Dylan Morris is, because he is. He

1520
01:35:56,760 --> 01:35:58,120
Speaker 1: had a couple of throwers in the game where it

1521
01:35:58,160 --> 01:36:00,120
Speaker 1: was like, oh, man, this is an exciting kid. Then

1522
01:36:00,120 --> 01:36:01,200
Speaker 1: he had a couple of throws in the game that

1523
01:36:01,360 --> 01:36:03,040
Speaker 1: was like, man, they really need to put in Ethan

1524
01:36:03,120 --> 01:36:08,080
Speaker 1: garbage immediately. Yeah. I'm not sold on on him yet.

1525
01:36:08,840 --> 01:36:12,280
Speaker 1: He's the guy who keeps overthrowing balls like and then

1526
01:36:12,320 --> 01:36:14,800
Speaker 1: he finally under threw a ball and then it got picked. Yeah,

1527
01:36:14,880 --> 01:36:17,920
Speaker 1: so um he He's gonna actually have to put a

1528
01:36:17,960 --> 01:36:20,400
Speaker 1: good game too together for me to give him anything

1529
01:36:20,479 --> 01:36:23,200
Speaker 1: at this point. And and then to you, to you

1530
01:36:23,720 --> 01:36:27,720
Speaker 1: USC beats this team, that's what you're telling me. I

1531
01:36:27,760 --> 01:36:30,920
Speaker 1: don't know what to make of us USC. I just

1532
01:36:30,960 --> 01:36:32,840
Speaker 1: know that they're three and oh that's what I know.

1533
01:36:33,160 --> 01:36:36,400
Speaker 1: And I know that Washington's can't score a lot of points.

1534
01:36:37,120 --> 01:36:42,080
Speaker 1: That's what I know. Okay, you know, yeah, um okay. So,

1535
01:36:43,560 --> 01:36:47,040
Speaker 1: but Washington is a discipline enough football team to where

1536
01:36:47,320 --> 01:36:50,679
Speaker 1: they should be able to do what Arizona and Arizona

1537
01:36:50,760 --> 01:36:56,960
Speaker 1: State did to their spread offense. But they're but they

1538
01:36:57,040 --> 01:37:01,040
Speaker 1: have but Washington has better players. I know Washington people

1539
01:37:01,160 --> 01:37:04,760
Speaker 1: probably listen to this like, jeezus, this guy's he's very

1540
01:37:04,840 --> 01:37:07,240
Speaker 1: nice to us today. No, because I'm just keeping him

1541
01:37:07,240 --> 01:37:12,479
Speaker 1: one one hunted. Um okay, So this week though, the

1542
01:37:12,560 --> 01:37:16,519
Speaker 1: games this week, Ralph, let's do our predictions on the

1543
01:37:16,560 --> 01:37:22,040
Speaker 1: games that may or may not happen. Uh okay, so

1544
01:37:22,600 --> 01:37:25,799
Speaker 1: right right now. So we'll start with the first game,

1545
01:37:26,640 --> 01:37:31,400
Speaker 1: which is uh Saturday. All games are on Saturday where

1546
01:37:31,400 --> 01:37:39,519
Speaker 1: they're supposed one pm Pacific time. Stanford, Oh what we

1547
01:37:39,520 --> 01:37:42,080
Speaker 1: we need? What we can talk to talk about that briefly. Now.

1548
01:37:42,280 --> 01:37:47,000
Speaker 1: Stanford is playing at Washington. Stanford doesn't have a home.

1549
01:37:48,200 --> 01:37:53,880
Speaker 1: Stanford can't play in Santa Santa Clara County because they

1550
01:37:53,960 --> 01:37:58,200
Speaker 1: have said no contact, sports, interest, indoors, outdoors, any of that.

1551
01:37:58,760 --> 01:38:04,880
Speaker 1: Despite Stanford having no positive tests since July. That since

1552
01:38:05,000 --> 01:38:10,400
Speaker 1: July eight to nine tests per week per player. They

1553
01:38:10,439 --> 01:38:12,920
Speaker 1: and Santa Clara is like nope, we don't care. But

1554
01:38:13,000 --> 01:38:18,040
Speaker 1: they can still get tattoos or massages indoors if they

1555
01:38:18,040 --> 01:38:22,240
Speaker 1: so chose. Um, it feels like, does it not feel

1556
01:38:22,280 --> 01:38:24,120
Speaker 1: like the whole world for the last five years has

1557
01:38:24,160 --> 01:38:27,439
Speaker 1: been out to get David Shaw. No, I feel like

1558
01:38:27,640 --> 01:38:29,760
Speaker 1: David Shaw has been out to get David Shaw to

1559
01:38:30,000 --> 01:38:33,160
Speaker 1: He's the ultimate saboteur of Stanford football by eight boy,

1560
01:38:33,240 --> 01:38:35,800
Speaker 1: by even working there in the first place. Come out like, no,

1561
01:38:36,040 --> 01:38:38,960
Speaker 1: I'm talking about NC double A rules and California legislation.

1562
01:38:39,439 --> 01:38:43,080
Speaker 1: N C double A rules and California legislation have consistently

1563
01:38:43,520 --> 01:38:48,160
Speaker 1: adversely affected Stanford above all other schools in the Pact twelve.

1564
01:38:48,520 --> 01:38:53,439
Speaker 1: That's just a fact. For whatever mistakes he makes on

1565
01:38:53,479 --> 01:38:55,880
Speaker 1: his own, those are on him. But as far as

1566
01:38:55,920 --> 01:39:00,000
Speaker 1: like n C double A rules and recruiting and eligibility

1567
01:39:00,360 --> 01:39:06,720
Speaker 1: and Stanford's own administration and and now the California state legislature,

1568
01:39:07,720 --> 01:39:11,280
Speaker 1: it's just nothing. The ball never bounces in their favor

1569
01:39:11,680 --> 01:39:13,880
Speaker 1: unless it's cow on special teams trying to kick an

1570
01:39:13,880 --> 01:39:22,120
Speaker 1: extra point. Oh yeah, dude, you know they have some

1571
01:39:22,240 --> 01:39:25,920
Speaker 1: self inflicted wounds. So it's hard for me to really appreciate. Well,

1572
01:39:25,920 --> 01:39:28,400
Speaker 1: it's just it's hard to feel sorry for anybody at

1573
01:39:28,400 --> 01:39:30,920
Speaker 1: Stanford in the first place. I'm just pointing out that

1574
01:39:30,960 --> 01:39:36,400
Speaker 1: it feels like they've had some bad luck. Sure, and

1575
01:39:36,400 --> 01:39:39,280
Speaker 1: and it's hard to feel bad for people because and

1576
01:39:39,680 --> 01:39:42,840
Speaker 1: I'm not account other people's money kind of kind kind

1577
01:39:42,840 --> 01:39:45,519
Speaker 1: of kind of guy. But I just recognize it's hard

1578
01:39:45,520 --> 01:39:48,479
Speaker 1: for people to feel sorry for people who are making

1579
01:39:48,520 --> 01:39:52,479
Speaker 1: a ton of money. It's just true. Um, So the

1580
01:39:52,920 --> 01:39:55,400
Speaker 1: line on this game, so you can are Are you

1581
01:39:55,439 --> 01:39:59,559
Speaker 1: gonna keep keep tracking this now? Yeah? I got Okay,

1582
01:39:59,640 --> 01:40:02,919
Speaker 1: So Washington is favored by eleven and a half points

1583
01:40:03,400 --> 01:40:10,639
Speaker 1: the over under his fifty. I am going to take

1584
01:40:10,960 --> 01:40:18,559
Speaker 1: Washington even in Seattle, Man, because stand Stanford does like

1585
01:40:18,680 --> 01:40:21,800
Speaker 1: to muddy up the game, and Washington likes to play

1586
01:40:21,800 --> 01:40:24,800
Speaker 1: a muddy game even though they don't want to be that,

1587
01:40:24,800 --> 01:40:27,920
Speaker 1: that's who they are. So I'm gonna pick Washington to win.

1588
01:40:28,840 --> 01:40:37,760
Speaker 1: Stanford plus the points though, and I'm gonna take the under. Okay,

1589
01:40:38,040 --> 01:40:42,160
Speaker 1: I will go with Washington to win and the opposite

1590
01:40:42,360 --> 01:40:49,479
Speaker 1: of everything you're doing, because you're just toxic right now. Okay,

1591
01:40:49,479 --> 01:40:52,439
Speaker 1: so I'll make all my pigs first then cool. Yeah,

1592
01:40:52,200 --> 01:40:53,920
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to, man, because I need to know

1593
01:40:53,960 --> 01:40:59,639
Speaker 1: what not to do. I'll take Washington and the over.

1594
01:41:01,120 --> 01:41:05,080
Speaker 1: What the Stanford is gonna make this game ugly? Washington

1595
01:41:05,240 --> 01:41:09,080
Speaker 1: finds a way to play ugly ugly games, and you

1596
01:41:09,080 --> 01:41:11,040
Speaker 1: can only play like that for so long. They're gonna

1597
01:41:11,040 --> 01:41:14,719
Speaker 1: have to figure out how to win pretty. Um. Next

1598
01:41:14,760 --> 01:41:20,479
Speaker 1: game up, Colorado at Arizona. Colorado's favorite by seven points.

1599
01:41:20,600 --> 01:41:24,479
Speaker 1: Grant Ganelle looks hurt. Arizona can't run the oh the

1600
01:41:24,520 --> 01:41:28,040
Speaker 1: over under his fifty nine. I am going to take

1601
01:41:28,120 --> 01:41:32,040
Speaker 1: the oof. That means I would need at least almost

1602
01:41:33,439 --> 01:41:36,160
Speaker 1: thirty of the thirty five of these points from Colorado.

1603
01:41:36,520 --> 01:41:41,800
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna venture out in today territory anyway. Colorado

1604
01:41:44,200 --> 01:41:49,920
Speaker 1: the over and yeah so college Colorado's favored by seven points.

1605
01:41:49,920 --> 01:41:53,719
Speaker 1: Where I'm sorry, um, favored by seven points. They're playing

1606
01:41:53,720 --> 01:41:57,400
Speaker 1: in Arizona, Colorados three and oh, I like Sam Noyer,

1607
01:41:57,600 --> 01:42:04,920
Speaker 1: Jared Broussard, give me Colorado. They cover and the overheads Okay,

1608
01:42:05,160 --> 01:42:09,520
Speaker 1: I'm with you. Brussari is gonna have himself a day.

1609
01:42:09,720 --> 01:42:12,559
Speaker 1: Um and if not him, Bobisheran or somebody else, anybody

1610
01:42:12,600 --> 01:42:16,400
Speaker 1: who gets the handoff is um. They're gonna be flying

1611
01:42:16,439 --> 01:42:19,120
Speaker 1: on that turf down in Tucson on a beautiful, beautiful

1612
01:42:19,160 --> 01:42:23,000
Speaker 1: day here. Um, but I don't. I just don't see

1613
01:42:23,000 --> 01:42:27,760
Speaker 1: these two teams combining for almost sixty points. I don't

1614
01:42:27,760 --> 01:42:29,840
Speaker 1: see it. I'm gonna give me a give me a

1615
01:42:30,320 --> 01:42:33,439
Speaker 1: four to seven Colorado win or even thirty one to seven.

1616
01:42:33,560 --> 01:42:36,200
Speaker 1: I don't see them getting close to uh fifty nine.

1617
01:42:36,280 --> 01:42:40,040
Speaker 1: So uh, and the Colorado rolls and stays undefeated, and

1618
01:42:40,120 --> 01:42:43,479
Speaker 1: we have to have weird conversations about where they actually belong.

1619
01:42:43,600 --> 01:42:46,719
Speaker 1: It's gonna be gonna be interesting. It's gonna be really

1620
01:42:46,720 --> 01:42:52,120
Speaker 1: weird when Colorado runs the table getting canceled. Colorado runs

1621
01:42:52,160 --> 01:42:56,960
Speaker 1: the table in in uh Carl Dorrell's first year. The

1622
01:42:57,080 --> 01:43:02,120
Speaker 1: our expectations are gonna be so messy for what the

1623
01:43:02,160 --> 01:43:05,280
Speaker 1: conference is supposed to look like next year, because they're

1624
01:43:05,320 --> 01:43:09,280
Speaker 1: gonna be the ones to throw it all off. Yeah yeah,

1625
01:43:09,320 --> 01:43:12,800
Speaker 1: because it's like, how are you supposed to even calculate

1626
01:43:13,280 --> 01:43:17,800
Speaker 1: what's happened this year for next year? Um, the next

1627
01:43:17,840 --> 01:43:23,599
Speaker 1: game up, you have the Oregon Ducks at at Cow.

1628
01:43:24,160 --> 01:43:30,160
Speaker 1: Oregon's favored by ten points, the over under his fifty nine.

1629
01:43:30,920 --> 01:43:36,760
Speaker 1: Give me Oregon, give me the ten point. Well, I'm

1630
01:43:36,800 --> 01:43:39,120
Speaker 1: where they're gonna win. By more than ten and the

1631
01:43:39,200 --> 01:43:41,639
Speaker 1: over is gonna hit. I'm gonna get at least thirty

1632
01:43:41,680 --> 01:43:45,559
Speaker 1: eight points from from Oregon and then you know they'll

1633
01:43:45,680 --> 01:43:49,559
Speaker 1: they'll give up one, so so I should get there.

1634
01:43:50,560 --> 01:43:53,880
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. That's a that's a good line that they

1635
01:43:53,920 --> 01:43:57,040
Speaker 1: said that ten feels about right. I mean, but I can't.

1636
01:43:57,400 --> 01:44:00,840
Speaker 1: I can't like call for a push. I like the

1637
01:44:00,960 --> 01:44:06,240
Speaker 1: over just like you. Um, but again, Uh, I gotta

1638
01:44:06,439 --> 01:44:10,559
Speaker 1: I gotta um push back against the cold hand you've had.

1639
01:44:10,600 --> 01:44:16,519
Speaker 1: So I'll I'll take Oregon to win Cal plus ten

1640
01:44:17,040 --> 01:44:22,559
Speaker 1: and over. Wow, that's funny that if Cal runs the

1641
01:44:22,560 --> 01:44:25,120
Speaker 1: ball like they ran it against Stanford and that and

1642
01:44:25,320 --> 01:44:28,559
Speaker 1: Oregon can't fix whatever is going on with their defense,

1643
01:44:28,680 --> 01:44:32,080
Speaker 1: I think they'll keep it close. So I'm not just

1644
01:44:32,120 --> 01:44:34,479
Speaker 1: being a jerk here. I genuinely think that there's an

1645
01:44:34,479 --> 01:44:38,840
Speaker 1: opportunity here for Cal to do some damage. I know,

1646
01:44:38,920 --> 01:44:44,920
Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think they win. Mm hmmm hmm.

1647
01:44:45,640 --> 01:44:50,280
Speaker 1: All right. Uh the last game up, Oh, actually no,

1648
01:44:50,720 --> 01:44:54,639
Speaker 1: the next game up after that is the Oregon State

1649
01:44:55,479 --> 01:44:58,559
Speaker 1: at Utah. This game is on ESPN as well. Actually,

1650
01:44:58,640 --> 01:44:59,880
Speaker 1: let me let let me give you the other ones.

1651
01:45:00,040 --> 01:45:03,400
Speaker 1: The Oregon games on ESPN at four o'clock. The Stanford

1652
01:45:03,400 --> 01:45:08,600
Speaker 1: game is on Fox at one PM, and the Colorado

1653
01:45:08,640 --> 01:45:12,280
Speaker 1: game is on FS one Colorado Arizona at FS one

1654
01:45:12,320 --> 01:45:15,320
Speaker 1: at four o'clock. Then you got the Oregon State at

1655
01:45:15,560 --> 01:45:20,519
Speaker 1: Utah game on ESPN pack twelve after dark. You toss

1656
01:45:20,600 --> 01:45:24,479
Speaker 1: Favorite by eleven points. The over under its fifty one

1657
01:45:24,520 --> 01:45:30,439
Speaker 1: and a half. Give me the give me the over

1658
01:45:31,080 --> 01:45:36,360
Speaker 1: and give me Oregon State. I'm picking the Oregon State

1659
01:45:36,400 --> 01:45:38,559
Speaker 1: to win. Okay, you're gonna have to hit me with

1660
01:45:38,600 --> 01:45:42,880
Speaker 1: this line one more time because he you talked. You

1661
01:45:43,040 --> 01:45:47,360
Speaker 1: toss Favorite by eleven points. Okay, the over under is

1662
01:45:47,520 --> 01:45:54,759
Speaker 1: fifty one and a half. All right, I'll take the over.

1663
01:45:55,600 --> 01:46:02,120
Speaker 1: But you know I'm feeling I'm i'm I'm sensing some

1664
01:46:02,200 --> 01:46:06,320
Speaker 1: weak just weirdness that could happen here. I'll we'll give,

1665
01:46:06,439 --> 01:46:11,280
Speaker 1: We'll give you tall to win, Oregon State will cover,

1666
01:46:12,960 --> 01:46:17,360
Speaker 1: and we'll hit the over. All right, too many guys

1667
01:46:17,439 --> 01:46:20,599
Speaker 1: going with way too many overs this week. I got

1668
01:46:20,640 --> 01:46:28,040
Speaker 1: the over. I got the Beavers, and the Beavers that

1669
01:46:28,040 --> 01:46:30,360
Speaker 1: would just justify the ranking that I gave them. I

1670
01:46:30,400 --> 01:46:34,120
Speaker 1: just went against my own ranking that I'm in. I'm

1671
01:46:34,400 --> 01:46:38,120
Speaker 1: I obviously have no idea what I'm doing here. Well,

1672
01:46:38,280 --> 01:46:42,919
Speaker 1: you're you're you're doing better than me right now? Um, alright,

1673
01:46:43,000 --> 01:46:48,000
Speaker 1: So u ce l A at Arizona State. Arizona State

1674
01:46:48,040 --> 01:46:52,080
Speaker 1: hasn't played in hasn't played this season apparently, um, and

1675
01:46:52,120 --> 01:46:55,920
Speaker 1: they are favorite by three points. I think this line

1676
01:46:56,000 --> 01:47:00,760
Speaker 1: is free money. I think this line is terrible. It

1677
01:47:00,800 --> 01:47:05,000
Speaker 1: doesn't matter whether Chase Well Actually, Arizona State has a

1678
01:47:05,040 --> 01:47:08,880
Speaker 1: better chance if cha, if um, Dorian Thompson Robinson plays,

1679
01:47:08,920 --> 01:47:11,320
Speaker 1: then if Chase Griffin plays. I don't know. Dorian Thompson

1680
01:47:11,360 --> 01:47:13,439
Speaker 1: Robinson beat the living hell out of a s U

1681
01:47:13,560 --> 01:47:16,320
Speaker 1: last year. If you remember that, Oh yeah, that was

1682
01:47:16,360 --> 01:47:18,479
Speaker 1: his best game. That was u c l a's best

1683
01:47:18,520 --> 01:47:25,800
Speaker 1: game as a team in years. Yep, give me, yeah,

1684
01:47:26,160 --> 01:47:32,639
Speaker 1: give me, um yeah, give me u c l A. Yeah,

1685
01:47:32,800 --> 01:47:36,200
Speaker 1: U c l A straight up. And there's no way

1686
01:47:36,240 --> 01:47:39,240
Speaker 1: I can't take the over in it. Actually, mm hmm.

1687
01:47:40,720 --> 01:47:42,559
Speaker 1: Actually I'm gonna take the under in this game. I'm

1688
01:47:42,560 --> 01:47:44,479
Speaker 1: taking it under in this game, the over under fifty.

1689
01:47:45,080 --> 01:47:47,800
Speaker 1: I'm taking it under. Smart man, Smart man, I'm rolling

1690
01:47:48,040 --> 01:47:51,439
Speaker 1: everything you just said. I don't know, you can't just

1691
01:47:51,520 --> 01:47:55,360
Speaker 1: take three weeks off. We still don't know if they

1692
01:47:55,400 --> 01:47:59,439
Speaker 1: have everybody from the offense back we don't know, uh,

1693
01:47:59,479 --> 01:48:03,320
Speaker 1: and the missing Jack Jones and Sherry Crosswell, oh yeah,

1694
01:48:03,520 --> 01:48:08,000
Speaker 1: we we forgot to mention that. Why why there's only

1695
01:48:08,000 --> 01:48:12,200
Speaker 1: two reasons. There's only two reasons that college football players

1696
01:48:12,200 --> 01:48:15,840
Speaker 1: get suspended that don't involve a police report. And those

1697
01:48:15,880 --> 01:48:20,240
Speaker 1: two reasons, and usually if it's academic, we find out, um.

1698
01:48:20,280 --> 01:48:28,640
Speaker 1: Those two reasons are either a dirty piss test or uh, fisticuffs,

1699
01:48:29,280 --> 01:48:31,960
Speaker 1: which you don't always get suspended for fighting, you don't.

1700
01:48:32,400 --> 01:48:33,800
Speaker 1: I want to be really clear on that. I know.

1701
01:48:34,360 --> 01:48:37,040
Speaker 1: I know about eighteen different stories of fist fights, and

1702
01:48:37,080 --> 01:48:40,080
Speaker 1: I've even witnessed fist fights at a college football practices

1703
01:48:40,120 --> 01:48:42,679
Speaker 1: that didn't end up in I witnessed a punter fight

1704
01:48:42,800 --> 01:48:46,679
Speaker 1: at Arizona State one year, uh where where two punters

1705
01:48:46,680 --> 01:48:50,040
Speaker 1: were full on throwing hands and you know, nothing, nothing

1706
01:48:50,080 --> 01:48:52,519
Speaker 1: came of that, and I've heard rumors of a few more.

1707
01:48:52,880 --> 01:48:54,840
Speaker 1: So I can't I'm not saying that I know for

1708
01:48:54,960 --> 01:48:57,599
Speaker 1: sure that it was a conflict, but I do know

1709
01:48:58,240 --> 01:49:02,960
Speaker 1: that the two reasons that you ever really see UM

1710
01:49:03,080 --> 01:49:06,080
Speaker 1: athletes get suspended for personal conduct that don't involve any

1711
01:49:06,120 --> 01:49:10,000
Speaker 1: issues of legality usually have to do with a bad

1712
01:49:10,600 --> 01:49:15,920
Speaker 1: a bad yurine test and or a a unresolved physical conflict.

1713
01:49:16,640 --> 01:49:18,720
Speaker 1: And so I mean, take take your pick. All I

1714
01:49:18,800 --> 01:49:22,439
Speaker 1: know is it's not a legal issue. So um, and

1715
01:49:22,760 --> 01:49:25,320
Speaker 1: I would with Jack Jones being on like the Dean's

1716
01:49:25,360 --> 01:49:29,240
Speaker 1: list last semester, I highly doubt that it's academic. So um,

1717
01:49:29,320 --> 01:49:34,479
Speaker 1: you have two hot head uh defensive backs that have

1718
01:49:34,560 --> 01:49:36,679
Speaker 1: not had anybody to take it out on in a month.

1719
01:49:37,200 --> 01:49:38,800
Speaker 1: It was pretty good chance they were just some type

1720
01:49:38,800 --> 01:49:41,280
Speaker 1: of conflict there and and and they'll have to get

1721
01:49:41,280 --> 01:49:44,400
Speaker 1: back in the good graces of the coaching staff. Lucky

1722
01:49:44,439 --> 01:49:46,919
Speaker 1: for Arizona State, they're very deep in the defensive backfield.

1723
01:49:46,960 --> 01:49:48,640
Speaker 1: But it's not the defensive backfield that they have to

1724
01:49:48,680 --> 01:49:51,639
Speaker 1: worry about, and it's in this game, it's can they

1725
01:49:51,760 --> 01:49:55,920
Speaker 1: stop the run? And they haven't had to face really

1726
01:49:55,920 --> 01:49:57,800
Speaker 1: a running game at all because their only game was

1727
01:49:57,840 --> 01:50:02,519
Speaker 1: against USC. So, um, we don't know what's going on

1728
01:50:02,600 --> 01:50:04,360
Speaker 1: with the s U S offense. We have absolutely no

1729
01:50:04,400 --> 01:50:06,519
Speaker 1: idea what's going on at the quarterback position for U

1730
01:50:06,520 --> 01:50:10,120
Speaker 1: C l A. I'm assuming dtr comes back, but even

1731
01:50:10,160 --> 01:50:12,280
Speaker 1: if he doesn't, if Chase Griffin can avoid making any

1732
01:50:12,280 --> 01:50:15,400
Speaker 1: mistakes and they can rely on the running game. You know,

1733
01:50:16,160 --> 01:50:21,920
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. Am I gonna lose

1734
01:50:21,960 --> 01:50:23,960
Speaker 1: my Arizona State base if I say that I don't

1735
01:50:24,000 --> 01:50:27,880
Speaker 1: think they win. Oh yeah, dude, of course they're going

1736
01:50:27,920 --> 01:50:32,960
Speaker 1: to try to find you. Well, then I'll be indefinitely

1737
01:50:33,000 --> 01:50:37,080
Speaker 1: suspended as well, I guess. So, Uh, all right, we'll

1738
01:50:37,120 --> 01:50:39,720
Speaker 1: go with well, we'll we'll take you u c l A.

1739
01:50:39,800 --> 01:50:43,880
Speaker 1: You said there plus three. No, U c l A

1740
01:50:44,000 --> 01:50:47,760
Speaker 1: plus plus three by three point all right, we'll take

1741
01:50:47,840 --> 01:50:49,840
Speaker 1: u c l A, especially with the last year's results

1742
01:50:49,840 --> 01:50:52,280
Speaker 1: still fresh in my mind. That was a butt kick in. Um,

1743
01:50:52,479 --> 01:50:54,960
Speaker 1: we'll go u c l A plus three, but I'm

1744
01:50:55,040 --> 01:51:00,240
Speaker 1: not taking the over No way, okay, cool? Um ask

1745
01:51:00,280 --> 01:51:03,200
Speaker 1: game up. We got Sunday Pack twelve football and it's

1746
01:51:03,200 --> 01:51:07,840
Speaker 1: not even at nine am. USC gets a favorable kickoff time,

1747
01:51:07,920 --> 01:51:12,760
Speaker 1: so it's gonna be on FS one. Uh come conflicting

1748
01:51:12,880 --> 01:51:15,400
Speaker 1: with the NFL game. So we'll see how the ratings are.

1749
01:51:16,040 --> 01:51:23,719
Speaker 1: Um Washington State at USC, USC's favorite by thirteen points.

1750
01:51:25,439 --> 01:51:28,840
Speaker 1: It's games in the coliseum. USC didn't play last week.

1751
01:51:28,880 --> 01:51:34,280
Speaker 1: They're probably all mad and everything. You know, Uh, they

1752
01:51:34,360 --> 01:51:37,960
Speaker 1: squeaked by well, actually, no, they beat why Utah pretty

1753
01:51:37,960 --> 01:51:42,639
Speaker 1: handily after U Talks quarterback got hurt, they couldn't do anything.

1754
01:51:42,720 --> 01:51:45,800
Speaker 1: Even though U Talk played better against Washington, they only

1755
01:51:45,840 --> 01:51:51,160
Speaker 1: beat Arizona by four and vat Arizona State by one. Uh.

1756
01:51:51,320 --> 01:51:55,160
Speaker 1: As long as Washington State's quarterback is back, So I'm

1757
01:51:55,200 --> 01:52:00,360
Speaker 1: gonna assume Jayden Dolora is gonna be be back. I

1758
01:52:00,360 --> 01:52:03,960
Speaker 1: feel like that's a safe assumption. And if that's the case,

1759
01:52:05,479 --> 01:52:09,559
Speaker 1: USC's favored by thirteen points, I am taking Washington State

1760
01:52:09,720 --> 01:52:14,439
Speaker 1: straight up to win this game. Actually, no, yes, no,

1761
01:52:15,760 --> 01:52:20,080
Speaker 1: damn okay, I know I have to go first. Oh

1762
01:52:20,120 --> 01:52:22,240
Speaker 1: and the over under sixty seven and a half round

1763
01:52:22,240 --> 01:52:25,519
Speaker 1: sixty seven and a half points? Are we running with that?

1764
01:52:25,600 --> 01:52:30,200
Speaker 1: We're jumping on that on on a seventy plus point game. Yes,

1765
01:52:30,439 --> 01:52:35,519
Speaker 1: I am taking the over in the game round and

1766
01:52:36,320 --> 01:52:41,400
Speaker 1: of sixty seven and a half, I'm taking the over. Um,

1767
01:52:41,439 --> 01:52:44,240
Speaker 1: I don't think USC's defense is gonna be able to

1768
01:52:44,280 --> 01:52:50,760
Speaker 1: stop them. I say, USC wins, but less by less

1769
01:52:50,760 --> 01:52:53,080
Speaker 1: than the thirteen points. This is gonna be a close game,

1770
01:52:53,760 --> 01:52:59,000
Speaker 1: much closer than USC wants to have. But why this

1771
01:52:59,040 --> 01:53:01,880
Speaker 1: state is tough, dude, They are tough, and their young

1772
01:53:01,960 --> 01:53:04,840
Speaker 1: quarter quarterback. If he's been able to practice, this kid

1773
01:53:04,880 --> 01:53:10,439
Speaker 1: will be good. All right. I'll take USC to win,

1774
01:53:10,600 --> 01:53:13,680
Speaker 1: Washington State to cover, and I'm gonna roll with the

1775
01:53:14,000 --> 01:53:16,720
Speaker 1: under here just because I think they might be a

1776
01:53:16,760 --> 01:53:20,400
Speaker 1: little bit rusty. Um and I haven't really seen that

1777
01:53:20,520 --> 01:53:27,040
Speaker 1: level of firepower from USC's offense anyway. Yeah. But but

1778
01:53:27,800 --> 01:53:31,719
Speaker 1: here's the thing. Though Washington State did give up forty

1779
01:53:31,760 --> 01:53:34,920
Speaker 1: three points and thirty to Oregon and thirty eight points

1780
01:53:34,920 --> 01:53:40,080
Speaker 1: to Oregon State. Those two teams run the ball. M

1781
01:53:40,320 --> 01:53:46,000
Speaker 1: h bro damn pick is locked. One of those teams.

1782
01:53:46,200 --> 01:53:49,960
Speaker 1: One of those teams even has Travis Dye, who is elite.

1783
01:53:52,040 --> 01:53:55,679
Speaker 1: That's a good place to end the podcast. Thank you

1784
01:53:55,680 --> 01:53:59,240
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1785
01:53:59,360 --> 01:54:02,800
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1786
01:54:02,840 --> 01:54:05,200
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1787
01:54:05,439 --> 01:54:08,519
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1788
01:54:08,720 --> 01:54:11,920
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1789
01:54:11,960 --> 01:54:17,759
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