1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:02,040 Speaker 1: Can't find a M six forty. 2 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:05,520 Speaker 2: You're listening to the John Cobelt podcast on the iHeartRadio app. 3 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:09,040 Speaker 3: It's the John Cobelt Show. Lou Penrose sitting in for 4 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:12,400 Speaker 3: John Cobelt all this week. California State Assembly Member Carl 5 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:16,240 Speaker 3: DeMaio joins us as we now are beginning to learn more. 6 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:20,639 Speaker 3: So the Secretary of State, Shirley Weber is the one 7 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 3: that's going to present to the voters the language of Prop. 8 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 3: Fifty and that's always been a real perilous situation. Carl, 9 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:32,240 Speaker 3: do we know anything about what she plans on doing 10 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 3: because we know that the attempt is going to be 11 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 3: to mislead the voter. 12 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 4: Yes, we know what she's gonna do. She's gonna lie, 13 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:41,839 Speaker 4: any questions, none at all. 14 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 1: I'm positively completely sure. You're right. 15 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:49,200 Speaker 3: They're gonna have to lie because the truth is outrageous. 16 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 4: Look, there's a pattern of bad behavior by these state politicians, 17 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 4: and Kamala Harris actually started the bad behavior back in 18 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 4: twenty fourteen and again in twenty sixteen as Attorney General. 19 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 4: She started crafting false and misleading ballot statements. Remember Prop 20 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 4: forty seven. They said it was a crime fighting initiative. 21 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 4: When in fact it took tools away from police and prosecutors. 22 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 4: That's why we had to do Prop thirty six this 23 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 4: last election to repeal Prop forty seven. Prop forty seventh 24 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:24,320 Speaker 4: title was misleading. And then again in twenty eighteen the 25 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 4: gas tax repeal, they changed the title so it had 26 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:30,399 Speaker 4: nothing to do with gas tax repeal. It said that 27 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 4: we were going to cancel road repair projects, which was 28 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:37,399 Speaker 4: not true. And so these politicians have been taking more 29 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 4: and more license to lie to voters with these false 30 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 4: and misleading ballot titles. And so I fully expected at 31 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 4: five o'clock tonight when we get to see the ballot title, 32 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 4: that it will be false and misleading, and we have 33 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 4: to prepare to educate voters that the same politicians claiming 34 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 4: that they're saving democracy don't us the voters at the truth. 35 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 4: They're trying to defraud voters of an honest and fair 36 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 4: election by lying to them on the title on this initiative. 37 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 4: It's corrupt, but hey, it's what we have come to 38 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 4: expect in California politics. 39 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 3: What about the whole Texas thing, the idea that originally 40 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 3: it was about a reaction to Texas, but then the 41 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 3: word Texas and any mention of other states was stripped 42 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:23,640 Speaker 3: from the ultimate piece of legislation. 43 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 1: Does that work against them in any way? 44 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 3: Does that to give us an opportunity to say, hey, 45 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 3: it's always been about a power grab. 46 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:36,080 Speaker 4: Well, as you saw in Politico on Monday, they actually 47 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 4: have a scoop. They blew the lid open on the 48 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 4: real truth, and that is that Democrats have been plotting 49 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 4: in California. The politicians have been plotting for the last 50 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:49,359 Speaker 4: fifteen years for an opportunity to eliminate the independent California 51 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 4: Redistricting Commission. The citizens took the power to do the 52 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 4: line drawing in twenty ten in a citizen's initiative. Matthew 53 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 4: Pelosi tried spending a one hundred million dollars to defeat 54 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 4: it back then, and the citizens said, no, we want 55 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 4: the power, not the politicians. But for the last fifteen years, 56 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 4: the politicians have been quietly lying in wait with emphasis 57 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 4: online so that they can see the power back. And 58 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 4: so they're using Texas as an excuse. They're using people's 59 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:21,640 Speaker 4: hatred of Trump as a motivator to get the people 60 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 4: of California to give the power back to the politicians, 61 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 4: so the politicians can manipulate the lines. Jerry manderin is 62 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:31,360 Speaker 4: wrong no matter where it's done. It's wrong in Texas, 63 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 4: it's wrong in Maryland, it's wrong in Illinois, and it 64 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 4: would be wrong in California. So why would we diminish 65 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 4: our democracy? Why would we undermine fair elections by voting 66 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 4: to give politicians back the ability to jerry mander in California. 67 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 4: It is insane. It's not what the voters want, and 68 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 4: we're going to work hard to make sure the voters 69 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 4: can protect this important reform. 70 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 3: Buy and large and I don't know if this supplies 71 00:03:57,400 --> 00:04:00,040 Speaker 3: in California, but buy and large with respect to Democrats 72 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 3: with Trump Arrangement syndrome, their level of Trump Arrangement syndrome 73 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 3: and Trump hatred tends to cause them to overplay their hand. 74 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 1: Right. 75 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 3: We see this at the Attorney General in New York, 76 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 3: and we see this in Atlanta with Bonnie Willis. You 77 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 3: see this in other states and other high profile Democrats 78 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 3: who have overplayed their Trump hatred and wound up collapsing. 79 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:23,479 Speaker 1: Is there a potential here? What can we expect? 80 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:26,160 Speaker 3: Are they going to go with vote yes on Prop 81 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 3: fifty to stop Donald Trump and just leave it at 82 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 3: that are they going to go anti Trump all the way? 83 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 2: Oh? 84 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:36,599 Speaker 4: Absolutely. Their polling shows that if you tap into the 85 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 4: hatred of Democrats for Trump, that you can motivate them 86 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 4: to the polls and motivate them to do something that 87 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:45,280 Speaker 4: ordinarily they wouldn't want to do if they were just 88 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 4: thinking about what was at stake. And that's what they're 89 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 4: trying to do. They're trying to use hatred and use 90 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:59,720 Speaker 4: emotion to get voters to do something bad for democracy. 91 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 4: And so that's why we have to make sure that 92 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 4: we get the message out to voters and the No 93 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:08,600 Speaker 4: on Prop fifty campaign we are working very hard. We're 94 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 4: asking people to join the fight. Go to Defendfair Elections 95 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 4: dot org. That's our campaign website, Defendfair Elections dot org. 96 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 4: We need to get the word out to voters that 97 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 4: the politicians are going to lie to them on their ballot. 98 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 4: They should vote know on Prop fifty if they want 99 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 4: to make sure they defend the citizens Independent Redistricting Commission 100 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 4: and keep the politicians out of manipulating the lines of 101 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:39,479 Speaker 4: election districts. So we need everyone to join Defend Fair 102 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:40,479 Speaker 4: Elections dot org. 103 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 3: And what time today will we learn about the ballot 104 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 3: title develot the ballot language. 105 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 4: So miss hasn't been reported in the media, but I'll 106 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 4: let you know your listeners. I was appointed by Newsom. 107 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 4: He didn't realize what he was getting to be the 108 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 4: official No on Prop. Fifty, the ballot argument manager for 109 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 4: our side. I found that out at five o'clock on Friday. 110 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 4: So we've been working all weekend throughout this week to 111 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 4: make sure that we file our opposition statements that will 112 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 4: appear in the official ballot booklet. We filed our opposition 113 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:21,039 Speaker 4: statement on Monday. This evening, we're going to file our 114 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 4: rebuttal to their proponent statement, and of course, at five 115 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 4: o'clock we will also get the Secretary of State transmitting 116 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 4: to us the official ballot title. We expect that that's 117 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 4: going to be a false title, and we will be 118 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 4: meeting with our lawyers starting at six o'clock to determine 119 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:39,720 Speaker 4: whether we take and file a lawsuit on this matter. 120 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 4: I suspect we will be in court by tomorrow. 121 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:46,480 Speaker 3: You mean that the governor assigns the person that's the 122 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:49,599 Speaker 3: official opponent and the opponent the writer of the of 123 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:52,279 Speaker 3: the opponent statement that was assigned to you. 124 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:54,719 Speaker 1: Like our side doesn't get I'm glad it's you. I'm 125 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:55,360 Speaker 1: just saying that. 126 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 4: Under state law, the if a measure is put on 127 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 4: the ballot by the legislature, then one of the legislators 128 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 4: who voted no on the matter has to be selected 129 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 4: to manage the official arguments in opposition. And I'm fine 130 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 4: doing the work. And we've been working to make sure 131 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 4: that we make a good case against Prop fifty. We 132 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 4: have good signers. I'm thrilled that we have a bipartisan 133 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 4: coalition that's been built. And these are not politicians. These 134 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 4: are people who care about our democracy, who want fairness, 135 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 4: who don't want politicians to manipulate lines. And so I 136 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 4: think our arguments are strong. But the ballot title is false, 137 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 4: and we know what they're intending to do with the 138 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 4: ballot title. So we have to make sure that we 139 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 4: get the word out to voters, and I guess we'll 140 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 4: have to do that through a campaign. So we need 141 00:07:54,040 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 4: people's help that the website defend Fair Elections do. People 142 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 4: should sign up and chip in at that site. 143 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 1: California State Assembly Member Carl Demile, thank you so much. 144 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 3: Always appreciate filling us up, getting us up to speed 145 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 3: on this. 146 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 1: It's a moving Target. 147 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 3: KFI AM six forty Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. 148 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 3: Lou Penrose in for John Cobelt on The John Cobelt Show. 149 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 5: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM 150 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 5: six forty. 151 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 3: Lou Penrose in for John Cobelt on The John Cobelt Show. 152 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 3: The proposition will be called PROMP fifty. I suspect you're 153 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 3: gonna hear a lot about it on the radio, on television. 154 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 3: There's gonna be a lot of mail. We just talked 155 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 3: with California State Assembly Member Carl Demile. I have known 156 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:47,960 Speaker 3: Carl for a long time, and this is among his superpowers. 157 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 1: Carl's good at some things. He has strengths, and there 158 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 1: are some things for which he is truly a superhero. 159 00:08:56,480 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 3: And communication, mass communication is one of his strengths. So 160 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 3: I am pleased that he has been assigned the manager 161 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:08,080 Speaker 3: of the messaging of the opposition to Prop. 162 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 1: Fifty. 163 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 3: It is really true that the ballot titles that are 164 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:16,560 Speaker 3: given to us by the Democrats when they are in 165 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:20,479 Speaker 3: charge of the Secretary of State's office are so misleading. 166 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 1: And you know this. When you get a like a. 167 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 3: You use some organization to explain the ballot to you. 168 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 4: Right. 169 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 1: There are lots of organizations that will send out voter guides. 170 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:42,560 Speaker 3: In fact, Carl Demiles organization Reformed California is among the 171 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 3: best in that it is absolutely clear and it is 172 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:53,560 Speaker 3: completely honest. It's nonpartisan, but it is real language, like 173 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 3: normal talk about what. 174 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 1: It's going to do. 175 00:09:56,080 --> 00:10:02,960 Speaker 3: Like there are times when I have voted for fee increases, 176 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 3: like toll roads, things like that. Like there are times 177 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 3: when I have actually taxed myself because the benefit of 178 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 3: the service outweighs the cost, even though I don't think 179 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 3: I should be paying for toll roads in my own state. 180 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:25,199 Speaker 3: If my state is refusing to widen the freeway, then 181 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 3: I will vote for an extension of Measure M, which 182 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 3: is a local sales tax to fund the toll road 183 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:35,200 Speaker 3: er or fix roads locally. 184 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:39,320 Speaker 1: Right, Like, I'm okay with the language. If it is 185 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 1: a Democrat idea or a Republican idea, just be square. 186 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:46,560 Speaker 1: And I noticed that when. 187 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 3: Citizens initiatives propositions are placed in front of voters in 188 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 3: California and they are clear, by and large, a majority 189 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 3: of Californians tend to be more fiscally conservative. We saw 190 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 3: that in the twenty twenty election. We saw that in 191 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 3: the twenty twenty two election. Like there are, there is 192 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 3: a pretty strong track record of Californians when they are 193 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 3: able to get the information, and they're able to get 194 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:20,960 Speaker 3: the information more clearly today than ever before. This is 195 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:23,679 Speaker 3: one of those areas where social media does help educate 196 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 3: because the official line from the Democrat governor is so 197 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:35,560 Speaker 3: misleading and there's so many voices out there to correct 198 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 3: it that it becomes very clear that they're trying to 199 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 3: mislead you. 200 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:42,679 Speaker 1: And that's going to happen here in Prop fifty. I 201 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 1: think this will be the. 202 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:51,079 Speaker 3: Most dishonest delivery of an opportunity for the citizens to 203 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 3: vote on something, But there will be so many voices. 204 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 3: I mean, you want to run the political spectrum When 205 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:02,079 Speaker 3: you have both California states asembly member Karl Demayo and 206 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 3: former Republican Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger on the same page with 207 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 3: a no, there's a lot of people in between. So 208 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 3: I think it's going to be a good fight and 209 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 3: one worth having. And if it doesn't go my way, 210 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 3: I'm I'm kind of up for that fight too. 211 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 1: Now. 212 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:26,080 Speaker 3: I want to know on fifty, I don't think that 213 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 3: the politicians should be able to draw their own districts. 214 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 1: I think this is moving us in a very bad place. 215 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 3: But if we're going to go there, and if a 216 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:37,200 Speaker 3: majority of Californians decide yeah, yeah, I hate Trump so 217 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:42,559 Speaker 3: much that I am going to ruin California and ruin 218 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:47,960 Speaker 3: the representation of my neighbor who is a fellow Californian 219 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 3: just happens to be a Republican. 220 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 1: I want to take away their right to. 221 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:57,440 Speaker 3: Be represented by a representative in Congress that agrees with them. 222 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 1: Because I so hate Donald Trump. 223 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:03,680 Speaker 3: If that's the way a majority of the Californians, Republicans, Democrats, 224 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 3: and Independents go, then it's on. 225 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 1: Then. Let Texas do what it's. 226 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 3: Doing, Let Maryland do what it's doing, Let Indiana do 227 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 3: what it's doing. Let Iowa do what it's doing. And 228 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 3: that is strong red states. Jerrymander out the Democrats. And 229 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 3: if California wants to jerrymander out the Republicans, there fifty states. 230 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 1: Let's see where this goes. 231 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:32,440 Speaker 3: We have had wars, and we have had cold wars, 232 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 3: we have had a civil war in this country, and 233 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 3: we are now in the midst of a cold Civil war. 234 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 3: This is just yet another step in the Cold Civil War. 235 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 3: When you have actual governors who are supposed to be 236 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:52,319 Speaker 3: beyond politics, right, that's what they always say. Once elected, 237 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 3: you represent everybody in the state, Republican, Democrat, and independent. 238 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 3: That's what you always hear at the inaugural address, whether 239 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 3: it's Governor Gavitt or any other governor. 240 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 1: Once they get elected, they. 241 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:06,319 Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you, thank you, and they always assured 242 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 3: to you that you're going to be a governor for 243 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:08,439 Speaker 3: all people. 244 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be a governor for all Californians. And then 245 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 1: he's not. 246 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 3: He's leading the effort to cheat on behalf of Democrats 247 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 3: in our state, denying Republican Californians the opportunity to be 248 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 3: represented by a Republican in Congress. So for the and 249 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 3: again this is inside baseball, so there's gonna have to 250 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 3: be a lot of education that goes on here. So 251 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 3: let me give you a quick, just a quick thumbnail 252 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 3: sketch about how all this works. There are four hundred 253 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 3: and thirty five members of Congress. Right, they are assigned 254 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 3: by population. Each member of Congress represents about seven hundred 255 00:14:54,800 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 3: and seventy thousand people. Roughly, and you try and divide 256 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 3: up the country among four hundred and thirty five sets 257 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 3: of seven hundred and seventy thousand people, and in California 258 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 3: we got about fifty two sets of seven hundred and 259 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 3: seventy thousand. Now, where that's called the congressional district. Now, 260 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 3: how do you make that? 261 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 1: What's the shape of that congressional district? Well, I mean, 262 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 1: there should be some rules to it. 263 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 3: It should be city whole, county whole, communities of interest 264 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 3: regions that makes sense, people that have common interests. It 265 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 3: should not include whether there are Republicans or Democrats in 266 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 3: the district. It should include whether or not there are 267 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 3: city dwellers, suburban heights, whether it's rural, whether it's farming, 268 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 3: whether it's inner city. Right, there's a lot of retired 269 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 3: veterans there. There should be a VA hospital somewhere close by, 270 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 3: like those kinds of things. And there are also some 271 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 3: Civil Rights era requirements under the federal law. 272 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 1: Okay, so you draw the lines and you without. 273 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 3: Regard to registration of party, and you try and keep 274 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 3: city whole hole. 275 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 1: Kind of normal looking congressional districts. 276 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 3: And there you go, and we in California said, the 277 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 3: politicians can't do that because of course the politicians are 278 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 3: Republican's going to want to have more registered Republicans in that. 279 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 1: District and a Democrat the same. So that's human nature. 280 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 1: So let's not let the politicians do it. Let's let 281 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 1: the citizens do it. 282 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 3: Let it be independent, And that's what we did in 283 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 3: twenty ten, an independent citizens Commission to do it. Prop 284 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 3: fifty goes in the opposite direction and puts it in 285 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 3: the hands of the politicians who are in power, that 286 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 3: is Democrats who are going to make squiggly, crazy lines 287 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 3: that look like salamanders, which is where Jerry Mander comes from, 288 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 3: Governor Gary of Massachusetts back in the eighteen hundreds. We're 289 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 3: going to make squiggly wiggly lines all weird looking shaped 290 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 3: districts so that they incorporate the most amount of registered Democrats, 291 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 3: so to give a Democrat candidate a better chance. 292 00:16:55,960 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 1: Of getting elected. That's what they're about. Absolutely outrageous. There 293 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 1: you go. 294 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 3: Now you know more than half of the political science 295 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:08,639 Speaker 3: faculty at UCLA. Loup Penrose info John Cobelt on The 296 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:12,200 Speaker 3: John Cobelt Show on KFI AM six forty live everywhere 297 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:13,360 Speaker 3: on the iHeartRadio app. 298 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:18,679 Speaker 5: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM 299 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:20,920 Speaker 5: six forty. 300 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 1: Lou Penrose Info. 301 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:23,639 Speaker 3: John coblt All this week, good to have you along 302 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:26,640 Speaker 3: with us. Prop fifty is on the way, which means 303 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 3: jerry mandering is on the way in California. 304 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 6: You don't think it's right at California, It's probably not right. 305 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 1: But what the hell. 306 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 6: Oils are we supposed to do to freak and try 307 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 6: to fight what's going on in Texas. 308 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:41,440 Speaker 3: So if you are concerned about what's going on in Texas, 309 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 3: then go to Texas and tell the people of Texas 310 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:45,879 Speaker 3: what's going on is wrong. 311 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 1: That's what you're supposed to do. 312 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:52,440 Speaker 3: If you are concerned that President Trump might and the 313 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 3: Republican Party might hold the House of Representatives in the 314 00:17:56,400 --> 00:18:00,159 Speaker 3: upcoming midterm election, then you don't have to cheat, and 315 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:02,359 Speaker 3: you don't have to call upon your Democrat members of 316 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:08,159 Speaker 3: the state legislature to cheat. You can just campaign for 317 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:11,119 Speaker 3: Democrats in Republican districts. 318 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:13,880 Speaker 1: You could keep the districts the same. 319 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:19,199 Speaker 3: And use your energies to convince your fellow Californians that 320 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 3: you should not vote for a Republican. You should vote 321 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 3: for a Democrat to stop the Trump agenda, if that's 322 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:30,479 Speaker 3: what you think, Like it's a citizen democracy, I mean, 323 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:34,800 Speaker 3: we're in charge, Like why are you abdicating we the 324 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:40,199 Speaker 3: people and handing it over to the politicians. There are 325 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 3: eighty members of the California State Assembly and forty members 326 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:48,439 Speaker 3: of the California State Senate. There are thirty nine million Californians. 327 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 3: So if you don't want Trump to have a Republican 328 00:18:57,240 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 3: House of Representatives for the second two years of his term, 329 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:07,400 Speaker 3: because you somehow think that is really important, and that's fine. 330 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:07,720 Speaker 5: Like that. 331 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 3: That's if I was a Democrat, I'd want to win 332 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 3: the I want to win control of the House too, 333 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 3: And as I've said, historically, it's likely that any Republican 334 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 3: president would lose. 335 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 1: House seats to the opposite party. 336 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 3: So it's very likely that he that he might who knows, 337 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:30,360 Speaker 3: it's a very different world because he's a two term president, 338 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:33,479 Speaker 3: but there were two nonconsecutive terms, so many respects, this 339 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:35,880 Speaker 3: is his first term all over again, and there really 340 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:40,640 Speaker 3: isn't any historical reference to that. But be that as 341 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:44,439 Speaker 3: it may. If you, as a Californian, want there to 342 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 3: be a Democrat controlled House, of representatives in the upcoming 343 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:51,679 Speaker 3: midterm election, which is four hundred and forty three days away. 344 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:55,120 Speaker 1: So you got a goodly amount of time to go. 345 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:59,679 Speaker 3: Talk to your fellow Californian and say, hey, I know 346 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 3: you're Trump supporter. I know you live in a congressional 347 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 3: district that's represented by a Republican where President Trump won 348 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 3: by ten percentage points and the Republican congressman was reelected 349 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:16,119 Speaker 3: by sixty five percent of the vote. 350 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:17,400 Speaker 1: But I want to talk with you. 351 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 3: I want to tell you that Trump is bad, Orange 352 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:23,400 Speaker 3: Man bad, and. 353 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 1: You should vote for a Democrat. Like go have that conversation. 354 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 3: They'll throw a beer at you, but at least you're 355 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:30,920 Speaker 3: doing your job as a citizen. 356 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 6: Hey, lou you guys might not have been ten to 357 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:36,879 Speaker 6: worry about. I was a Republican for twenty years of 358 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 6: my life. This past election, I stopped being Republican and 359 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:44,680 Speaker 6: registered as an independent because I'm just tired of everybody's stupidness. 360 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I appreciate the call. I don't recommend you do that. 361 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:49,120 Speaker 1: I don't. 362 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:51,440 Speaker 3: I'm not a big fan of the whole independent thing. 363 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 3: Everybody likes to believe they're independent. I'm independent. I don't 364 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:57,720 Speaker 3: take my marching orders from anybody. 365 00:20:58,359 --> 00:20:59,400 Speaker 1: Like everybody likes to. 366 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:04,399 Speaker 3: Say that it's very self aggrandizing, but this is politics 367 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:08,639 Speaker 3: and you got to get in the game. Not a 368 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:11,159 Speaker 3: huge fan of the no party preference. I don't believe 369 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 3: you when you tell me you have no party preference. 370 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 3: I frankly find that unbelievable. Clearly, there has to be 371 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 3: a political philosophy that rules your personal constitution and the 372 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:31,440 Speaker 3: way you view yourself in business with respect to government 373 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 3: has to be I mean, at the end of the day, 374 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:38,679 Speaker 3: regardless of the issue at hand, regardless of the question 375 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 3: before you, you are either in favor of smaller government, 376 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 3: smaller control over your life and your business, lower taxes, 377 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:56,720 Speaker 3: a lower tax burden, more individual freedom, and more personal responsibility, 378 00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:59,640 Speaker 3: and are willing to suffer the consequences. 379 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 1: You either believe that in all matters, or you believe in. 380 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 3: More government regulation over your life and your business. Bigger 381 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:24,440 Speaker 3: government control, less freedom, higher taxes, less personal and responsibility, 382 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:31,199 Speaker 3: and no consequences. In fact, you're the victim of some 383 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 3: other thing, and you believe that in all matters concerning 384 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:41,359 Speaker 3: your life and your business. You have to fall into 385 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 3: one of those two camps. Like most of the time. Now, 386 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:49,440 Speaker 3: no political party defines you all day, every day. There 387 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:52,879 Speaker 3: are Republicans that are social conservatives. There are Republicans that 388 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:58,680 Speaker 3: are fiscal conservatives. There are Republicans that are civil libertarians. 389 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 3: There are Democrats that are Catholic and pro life. There 390 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 3: are pro business Democrats. Now they're called moderate Democrats. It 391 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 3: used to be called blue collar Democrats. There are progressives 392 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:18,679 Speaker 3: which are communists right. There are social Democrats socialists, which 393 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:23,160 Speaker 3: is in fact the Democrat party. Now there are absolute 394 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:25,359 Speaker 3: maniacs out there on both sides. 395 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:28,199 Speaker 1: So I get it. 396 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 3: No political parties perfect, but one of the two of 397 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:36,360 Speaker 3: them more closely reflects the way you think about the world. 398 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 3: And if you're not sure, you're not doing enough deep thinking, 399 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 3: and you need to do a little more self reflection. 400 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 3: Because it is up to you. It is we the people, 401 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 3: it is citizen government. We're in charge. Remember, we don't 402 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:56,880 Speaker 3: make the laws. We elect the lawmakers. So we got 403 00:23:56,880 --> 00:24:00,159 Speaker 3: to get in the game. So pick a team and 404 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 3: ride it to victory. Lou Penrose in for John Cobelt 405 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 3: on the John Coblt Show on KFI AM six forty 406 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:08,120 Speaker 3: live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. 407 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:13,479 Speaker 5: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM six. 408 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:17,400 Speaker 3: Blu Penrose in for John Cobelt on the John Cobelt 409 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 3: Show all this week. 410 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 1: Good to have you along with us. 411 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:23,679 Speaker 3: Coming up following the news at three, we'll talk with 412 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 3: Republican leader James Gallagher. He had a press conference today. 413 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:34,160 Speaker 3: He introduced legislation, actually a resolution, in response to Sacramento's 414 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:40,440 Speaker 3: attempt to jerrymander California's congressional map. This is to effectively 415 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 3: create a new state, to split California into two states. 416 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:49,400 Speaker 3: He calls it the two state solution, and we will 417 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 3: find out which state will be in. I gotta look 418 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:55,639 Speaker 3: at the map. I think we're in the bad state. 419 00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:58,920 Speaker 3: I don't know if there's any plans for a Berlin 420 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:03,359 Speaker 3: airlift from the good part of California to get us supplies. 421 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 3: But it appears that the liberal crazy California will be 422 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 3: Los Angeles County and up the coast, and the Republican 423 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 3: votes will be mostly Inland. What's interesting is geographically speaking, 424 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 3: the good California is a lot bigger than the crazy California. 425 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:32,120 Speaker 3: There's been a couple of attempts to split California into 426 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 3: two states. There was an attempt about ten years ago 427 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 3: for California and Southern California. I remember because it was 428 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:44,679 Speaker 3: not North California, in South California. 429 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 1: It wasn't gonna be like the dakotas well the Carolinas. 430 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:51,160 Speaker 3: I don't know if this will be like the Virginia's 431 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 3: will be California and West California. I don't know if 432 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 3: they got that far, but they are looking at splitting 433 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:02,160 Speaker 3: California again. Look, these are all signs now this will 434 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:05,120 Speaker 3: be interesting. I don't know how serious Gallagher is. I 435 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 3: suspect he realizes there's probably a long way to go 436 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 3: before we split California into two. But he is the 437 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 3: Republican leader, so the fact that he throws it out 438 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 3: there does matter. It means that there is significant dissatisfaction 439 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 3: with the way this state is run, and the state 440 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:28,439 Speaker 3: is powerful. California is the nation's largest state by population. 441 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:31,640 Speaker 1: It is the nation's. 442 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 3: Largest state as far as gross domestic product by far. 443 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:38,920 Speaker 1: Like that's something I think that is notable. 444 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 3: Like, we're not just the largest GDP of all the 445 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:47,359 Speaker 3: other forty nine states. We're way bigger than the second 446 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:48,440 Speaker 3: largest GDP. 447 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 1: You know, We're not just the most populous state. 448 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:56,960 Speaker 3: We're way bigger than the second most populous state, so 449 00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 3: California is somewhat of an anomaly when it comes to 450 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:02,400 Speaker 3: the other forty nine states. 451 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 1: Now that's good for us and bad for us. 452 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 3: It's good for us because it's good to be the 453 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:13,159 Speaker 3: number one in gross domestic product and gross and population, 454 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,160 Speaker 3: but we're also number one on a lot of bad things, 455 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 3: right number one in homelessness, number one in taxes, number. 456 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 1: One in crime, number one in illegal aliens. 457 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:26,920 Speaker 3: So being on top has its privileges, but also some 458 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,679 Speaker 3: of the negative side effects. It also it just kind 459 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:33,120 Speaker 3: of throws off the other forty nine states and makes. 460 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 1: It very hard for us to work in a union. 461 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:40,360 Speaker 3: Because California has way more representatives in the House of Representatives. 462 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:46,639 Speaker 3: You know, we're losing them every ten years, and we're 463 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:50,199 Speaker 3: set to lose I think they say three more congressional 464 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 3: seats in the next census in twenty thirty, So we'll 465 00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:56,639 Speaker 3: see if. 466 00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:59,479 Speaker 1: California is brought down to size, so to speak. 467 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 3: But the gross domestic product, the total output of goods 468 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 3: and services out of the state is still going to 469 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:09,520 Speaker 3: be quite high, and we ought to be able to 470 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:12,399 Speaker 3: use that to our advantage. I remember that used to 471 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 3: bother then Governor Schwarzenegger. Governor Schwarzenegger, I worked closely with 472 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 3: the administration. I was working in Congress at the time, 473 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 3: and there was some talk of my boss running for 474 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 3: lieutenant governor on the Schwarzenegger ticket. So we were close 475 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 3: to that team, and I just was in a lot 476 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:33,359 Speaker 3: of conversations with the Schwarzenegger team and one of the 477 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 3: things that struck him, and it really ought to strike 478 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:41,360 Speaker 3: every Californian in office, whether it's Republican or Democrat, we 479 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:42,560 Speaker 3: really ought to. 480 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:44,960 Speaker 1: Rule DC. 481 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:49,480 Speaker 3: Giving given our large s, whether it's Republican or Democrat, 482 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:52,440 Speaker 3: there are still federal services that we don't get our 483 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 3: fair share up. We are, in fact a donor state. 484 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 3: That means you, whether you are Republican, Democrat, declined to 485 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 3: st a, whatever you are, Green Party, libertarian, vegetarian, whatever 486 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 3: you are, you're a Californian and you're also paying federal taxes. 487 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,600 Speaker 3: Will you and I pay more in federal taxes than 488 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,520 Speaker 3: we received back in federal services. 489 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 1: That's not always the case. That's not the case in Texas, 490 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,160 Speaker 1: it's not the case in Arizona. It's not the case. 491 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:25,240 Speaker 3: I mean some of these states that have high profile 492 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:29,640 Speaker 3: senators that are chairmen of major committees, they have really 493 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 3: good stuff. I remember at one point the Senate leader 494 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:41,240 Speaker 3: in the United States Senate was from I think it 495 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 3: was South Dakota, one of the Dakota's I don't remember now. 496 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:50,479 Speaker 3: But one of the benefits of being a Senate leader 497 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,239 Speaker 3: and representing a small state like one of the two 498 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 3: Dakotas is you're able to funnel a whole lot of 499 00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:00,120 Speaker 3: federal dollars to your own infrastructure. So the roads and 500 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 3: off ramps in South Dakota were beautiful. 501 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:05,840 Speaker 1: For a number of years. 502 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 3: The senior Senator and the junior Senator from Arizona, we're 503 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 3: in charge of the Transportation Committee, and you go to 504 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 3: Arizona and take a look at some of those off 505 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 3: ramps off of federal highways like the ten in really 506 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 3: good shape, constantly being improved. So that's just one example. 507 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:27,080 Speaker 3: Right Like any federal highway is going to get federal dollars. 508 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:31,400 Speaker 3: You have lawmakers that are powerful from your state, they're 509 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:34,800 Speaker 3: able to bring home those kinds of federal dollars. In California, 510 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 3: we have every need there is, we have need for 511 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:42,640 Speaker 3: federal highways we have infrastructure needs, we have needs for 512 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:46,320 Speaker 3: veteran services, I mean everything up and down. 513 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 1: Right. So, but we don't have strong, powerful senators. 514 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:57,120 Speaker 3: And while we had the Speaker of the House in 515 00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 3: both parties, there was a time that whether or not 516 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:04,560 Speaker 3: Nancy Pelosi was Speaker of the House or Kevin McCarthy 517 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 3: was Speaker of the House, Frankly, as a California federal 518 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 3: tax payer, you probably shouldn't care because either one was 519 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:15,880 Speaker 3: good for you because you were a Californian. And at 520 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,240 Speaker 3: the end of the day, they are going to write 521 00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 3: legislation and carve up budgets that favor California. And it 522 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:24,400 Speaker 3: wouldn't even have to favor California. Just give us our 523 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:27,320 Speaker 3: fair share. We're a donor state, which means I think 524 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 3: the number is ninety three for we get back ninety 525 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 3: three cents for every dollar we send to the federal 526 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:35,640 Speaker 3: government collectively as a state. 527 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:37,840 Speaker 1: In federal services. 528 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:43,240 Speaker 3: So one of the things that then Governor Schwarzenegger was 529 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:45,840 Speaker 3: aggravated about is how come when it cut like you 530 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,760 Speaker 3: got I get it. It's the big political fight here 531 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:52,240 Speaker 3: Republicans eight Democrats, Democrats hat Republicans up in Sacramento. I 532 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:54,920 Speaker 3: get all that, and you guys can all hate each other, 533 00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:58,480 Speaker 3: but when you all leave California on airplanes out of 534 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:02,479 Speaker 3: San Francisco and LAA in San Diego and Fresno, and 535 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 3: you all fly to Washington, DC when it comes to 536 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:12,600 Speaker 3: federal stuff, because there is like this Veterans hospital isn't partisan. 537 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:16,160 Speaker 3: So when it comes to federal appropriations, why don't y' 538 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 3: all get together and make sure that California gets its 539 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:23,840 Speaker 3: fair share? And he even tried to organize retreats out 540 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:27,880 Speaker 3: in Palm Springs to bring the congressional delegations together and 541 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:30,360 Speaker 3: agree on those kinds of things. It was never able 542 00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 3: to pull it off because the partisanship was too poisonous 543 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:38,200 Speaker 3: to allow Californians Republicans and Democrats in Congress to work 544 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:42,080 Speaker 3: together to not make us a donor state to the 545 00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:46,880 Speaker 3: federal government. So it's been broken for a while and 546 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:51,160 Speaker 3: now the Republican leader, James Gallagher says it's too broke 547 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:51,600 Speaker 3: to fix. 548 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,520 Speaker 1: Let's just divorce. We'll talk about it next. 549 00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:57,800 Speaker 3: Louke Penrose if John Cobalt on the John Coblt Show 550 00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:01,680 Speaker 3: on KFI AM six forty Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. 551 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 2: Hey you've been listening to The John Cobalt Show podcast. 552 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:07,120 Speaker 2: You can always hear the show live on KFI Am 553 00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:10,160 Speaker 2: six forty from one to four pm every Monday through Friday, 554 00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:13,480 Speaker 2: and of course, anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio app.