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Speaker 1: I don't know how the best way to describe this

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Speaker 2: Welcome to episode five point thirty two with NASCAR driver

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Speaker 2: Chase Elliott, which, by the way, Chase elle will be

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Speaker 2: racing on September thirteenth. It is the Bristol Motor Speedway,

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Speaker 2: the best pro shops night race. Who decides who survives

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Speaker 2: around the sixteen. I thought it was cool. Listen. I'm

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Speaker 2: Elli is? The race car driver? Is that even a thing?

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Speaker 2: Can I say racecar driver?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: He's a race car defensive like I do. I do

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Speaker 2: multiple sports shows, but I don't know much about NASCAR,

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Speaker 2: if I'm being honest. So, but I really enjoyed it,

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Speaker 2: and I think, you know, Morgan number one, who is

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Speaker 2: I was like, really, I was like, how popular is he?

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Speaker 2: She was like, he's arguably the most popular driver. I

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Speaker 2: was like, great, I'm glad I didn't know that because

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Speaker 2: I might have handled this a bit different. So enjoy this.

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Speaker 2: We do about forty minutes with Chase Elliott. I really

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Speaker 2: like him, and then Eddie and I will talk about

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Speaker 2: the top ten live music tragedies of all time.

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Speaker 3: Oh man, yeah, you don't have happy stuff over here.

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Speaker 2: Well we'll go happy first. Here he is Chase Elliott,

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Speaker 2: or as many people know, I'm Chase race Lot.

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Speaker 3: Yes, that's what I just heard.

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Speaker 1: I haven't heard that one in a minute, so it

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Speaker 1: was nice to get. Yeah from Cars three some cars

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would think that that is a completely different

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Speaker 1: Yeah, your parents, you would actually be surprised it happens.

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Speaker 1: Not a lot, but it definitely happens. But you're totally right,

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Speaker 1: Like it's a total different world, right, people see you know,

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Speaker 2: It's weird. Uh, Like I did a reality show one time.

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Speaker 2: I did Dancing with the Stars and I won the show,

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Speaker 4: Oh nice, thank you.

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Speaker 2: Not the flex yet. The flex is this is that

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Speaker 2: that's a big deal though. Yeah, I'm wonderful athlete, much

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Speaker 2: I know they're about to talk about that show, like

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Speaker 2: they're like hello, I'd like to say I'm like big

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Speaker 2: we're tackling on both ends. Good to see you. Have

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Speaker 4: I don't know that. Maybe we've crossed paths somewhere.

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Speaker 2: Probably not then, I don't know. I'm pretty generic.

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie me too, So I mean, no

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Speaker 2: Yeah, do you find that having it be a helmet sport,

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Speaker 1: Uh maybe that's a good point. I would say people

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Speaker 2: You do have NAPA on even like your normal clothes today,

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Speaker 4: The billboards that we are, but that's part of the deal.

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Speaker 4: You big bulldog fan, big Georgia fan, big Georgia fan.

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Speaker 4: Man, they've had they've had a tough go at it.

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Speaker 2: Do you feel that when Georgia doesn't win a football

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Speaker 1: But I'm also you know, I feel like I'm a

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Speaker 1: I spent enough years of being a Georgia fan in

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Speaker 1: But I wouldn't say it's a letdown. Like I hate

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Speaker 2: I think that Georgia has fans that are much nicer

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Speaker 1: I don't disagree with that, but you know, they've had

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Speaker 2: So I have some really uneducated questions I'd like to ask,

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Speaker 1: The teams own the numbers, you know, basically, so you know,

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Speaker 2: I want to talk about visualization for a second. And

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Speaker 1: level up.

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00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:19,240
Speaker 4: But it's yeah, it'll get you, it'll get you.

439
00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:23,119
Speaker 3: It like that. When when do you take that, like

440
00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:24,160
Speaker 3: at what point?

441
00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:29,000
Speaker 1: I don't regular basis, obviously you do. I don't on

442
00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:32,919
Speaker 1: a regular basis, but some of our pit crew guys

443
00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:34,480
Speaker 1: do it, and it's always kind.

444
00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:35,040
Speaker 4: Of a running joke.

445
00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:37,200
Speaker 1: They'll run up to me with with these smelling salts,

446
00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:39,199
Speaker 1: you know, like right before the race, and you know,

447
00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:40,840
Speaker 1: smell one.

448
00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:42,159
Speaker 4: But so I've done it.

449
00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:44,919
Speaker 1: But I'm not like a regular I'm not a regular

450
00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:46,160
Speaker 1: user by any means.

451
00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:48,680
Speaker 2: Let me ask you about music. Favorite three artists of

452
00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:52,080
Speaker 2: all time, of all time, all time, and then I

453
00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:54,360
Speaker 2: will we'll go more current, but all time right now.

454
00:20:56,000 --> 00:21:00,200
Speaker 1: In what John doesn't matter? Wide open, that's all is

455
00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:03,399
Speaker 1: too broad. I mean for me, Eric Church is the goat.

456
00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:07,960
Speaker 1: I would put him at the top of the list.

457
00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:09,639
Speaker 4: Period. Now.

458
00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:12,920
Speaker 1: Now from there, it's like, okay, you have two more

459
00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:16,040
Speaker 1: spots to fill in any genre. I think that could

460
00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:20,520
Speaker 1: be do four total. I would have to study this,

461
00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:21,680
Speaker 1: I think a little bit.

462
00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:25,760
Speaker 2: Okay, if you study during an interview, that's a boring interview.

463
00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:28,720
Speaker 2: You're not committed. This is not a contract you have

464
00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:29,399
Speaker 2: to sign where.

465
00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:32,199
Speaker 4: They I know, but I don't want to.

466
00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:35,320
Speaker 1: I don't want to answer this and then get done

467
00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:37,600
Speaker 1: and be like, dang, I wish I had said somebody else.

468
00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:39,679
Speaker 4: But whatever I'm gonna I'll go for it.

469
00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:42,879
Speaker 2: Have to smelling salt to come out.

470
00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:47,760
Speaker 4: I need to need to study. Let's see I would probably.

471
00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:52,000
Speaker 1: Put Eric Church up there, no question.

472
00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:53,240
Speaker 4: I think that.

473
00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:02,439
Speaker 1: I would probably put Tyler Chills in in the realm

474
00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:03,000
Speaker 1: as well.

475
00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:08,119
Speaker 2: So you got Kentucky and now you have Carolina.

476
00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:09,919
Speaker 4: Yep, Kentucky and Carolina.

477
00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:11,880
Speaker 2: No pressure to put anybody from Georgia in there. I'm

478
00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:13,560
Speaker 2: just making sure we know where we are regionally. We're

479
00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:14,240
Speaker 2: marking them off.

480
00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:19,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just gonna keep it in the country category

481
00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:24,639
Speaker 1: just because that we're in Nashville, right so country category.

482
00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:30,320
Speaker 1: We'll just go current like what I like. Right now,

483
00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:31,680
Speaker 1: We'll go Musket one blood Line.

484
00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:32,879
Speaker 2: I think you think you're gonna be killed if you

485
00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:33,959
Speaker 2: get a wrong answer, You're not.

486
00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:34,360
Speaker 3: You're good.

487
00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:38,240
Speaker 4: You're saying I just want to I just want to

488
00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:39,480
Speaker 4: preface where my head's at.

489
00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:41,480
Speaker 3: And if you want to call in later and change.

490
00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:46,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll go Musket one blood Line. Love their stuff,

491
00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:51,720
Speaker 1: big big fans of theirs. I like Mega Maroney right now.

492
00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:53,360
Speaker 1: I think she's got some good stuff.

493
00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:56,960
Speaker 2: We'll accept all four of those answers, all four great picks. Yeah,

494
00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:58,160
Speaker 2: if you come back in the year and you say

495
00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:00,760
Speaker 2: I want to change all four No penalty.

496
00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:03,560
Speaker 1: No, I'm not looking for a penalty or or or

497
00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:07,400
Speaker 1: anything else. But I just, you know, I think rush

498
00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:10,239
Speaker 1: more of music, and you get like, I don't know,

499
00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:11,960
Speaker 1: I dive in pretty deep on that stuff.

500
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:13,000
Speaker 4: So I just I.

501
00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:14,879
Speaker 2: Would, uh, your favorite non country artists.

502
00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:21,280
Speaker 1: Ever, I would probably go like something When I think

503
00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:25,560
Speaker 1: non country, my mind goes to like classic rock, you know,

504
00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:30,719
Speaker 1: something like you know, the Eagles or some something in

505
00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:31,720
Speaker 1: that area.

506
00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:34,920
Speaker 2: Right, we had a segment we were doing. It's like

507
00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:38,439
Speaker 2: if you had on a seven hour road trip and

508
00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:40,240
Speaker 2: you can only listen to one artist, who would you pick?

509
00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:43,320
Speaker 2: And I picked Tom Petty just because it's unlimited greatness.

510
00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:46,080
Speaker 2: Unlimited greatness. So let me ask you that question. Then

511
00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:48,480
Speaker 2: you got you're on a seven hour road trip.

512
00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:49,920
Speaker 4: I would I would go Eric Church.

513
00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:55,800
Speaker 1: I think he has a plethora of albums and music

514
00:23:55,880 --> 00:24:00,640
Speaker 1: and totally different choices from album to album. And yeah,

515
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:04,399
Speaker 1: I just I think I think you're listening to you know,

516
00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:08,600
Speaker 1: like a just a legend that you'll talk about and

517
00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:12,119
Speaker 1: people will appreciate for years to come. Uh, you know

518
00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:18,399
Speaker 1: George Strait type. Uh, you know, legendary status you know

519
00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:20,920
Speaker 1: down the road that I think you'll be like, Dang,

520
00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:22,920
Speaker 1: I should have appreciated that person more when you had

521
00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:24,080
Speaker 1: the chance to go watch them live.

522
00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:26,679
Speaker 4: So I think that that's fair.

523
00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:29,800
Speaker 2: Best concert you ever been to Red Rocks Church of

524
00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:31,440
Speaker 2: Red Rocks, Yeah, the recent one.

525
00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:32,320
Speaker 4: Both of them.

526
00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:35,640
Speaker 1: I went to the one that was what about ten

527
00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:37,520
Speaker 1: years ago, and then I did go to the recent

528
00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:40,280
Speaker 1: one as well. You know Eric, uh yeah, a little

529
00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:43,920
Speaker 1: bit not not super well, but a little bits. Houses

530
00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:45,520
Speaker 1: I don't need to know.

531
00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:51,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, we take you all good.

532
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:54,879
Speaker 2: All right, let's talk about this, uh the last the

533
00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:58,680
Speaker 2: race of Bristol for a second. What is that track?

534
00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:01,479
Speaker 2: Like what you say every all these tracks have their

535
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:03,119
Speaker 2: own characteristics, what's that track about?

536
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:07,520
Speaker 1: Well, Bristol is you know, that place has changed a

537
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:09,639
Speaker 1: lot over the years, and the racing has changed a

538
00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:12,840
Speaker 1: lot there. But it's it is a short track, right,

539
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:15,919
Speaker 1: It's only a half mile, so it's a pretty small place.

540
00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:17,760
Speaker 1: But to me, it's it's not so much about the

541
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,520
Speaker 1: track there as it is about the experience. I just

542
00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:23,720
Speaker 1: think it is such a great place to go watch

543
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:26,919
Speaker 1: a race. Like anytime my friends asked me, you know,

544
00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,000
Speaker 1: where should we go, or you know, meet somebody for

545
00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:30,800
Speaker 1: the first time, getting them in a NASCAR and they

546
00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:32,840
Speaker 1: want to come check it out, I always say the

547
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:35,560
Speaker 1: Bristol Night Race. Truthfully, I mean it's not just because

548
00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:38,440
Speaker 1: we're here promoting the Bristol Night Race, but honestly that

549
00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:42,760
Speaker 1: that is the best answer, because I just think it

550
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:48,040
Speaker 1: it really gives people a true appreciation and understanding of

551
00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:50,919
Speaker 1: what we do and seeing it up close in a

552
00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:53,520
Speaker 1: stadium like environment. It's just not something that we do

553
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:58,560
Speaker 1: every week, and it's special. It's special. It's fast, it's

554
00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:02,280
Speaker 1: it's it's tight quarters racing. You have to be very precise.

555
00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 1: Everything about it is just to me what NASCAR, what

556
00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:09,120
Speaker 1: I grew up appreciating about NASCAR racing, and I think

557
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:10,919
Speaker 1: it does a great job of exemplifying that.

558
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:14,320
Speaker 2: Today, September thirteenth, the Bass Pro Shops Night Race at

559
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:18,000
Speaker 2: Bristol Motor Speedway decides who survives the round of sixteen.

560
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:21,760
Speaker 2: So if you're out, so some people just don't make it,

561
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 2: you just go without them, right, you leave them behind

562
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:25,600
Speaker 2: and you get then the top twelve.

563
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:28,080
Speaker 4: Go, Well you don't they still race the next week.

564
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:29,800
Speaker 2: Literal they can't. But they can't win, right.

565
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 1: They're eliminated from the from the playoff, you know system.

566
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 2: I draw by them like this l on my head.

567
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:36,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're not even real.

568
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:38,000
Speaker 2: We don't even see what n seen them. You can't

569
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:38,359
Speaker 2: see me.

570
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:40,560
Speaker 4: Old smelling salt, Yeah, exactly.

571
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 2: I've already smelled them, have the old one?

572
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 7: Ye?

573
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:43,480
Speaker 2: What'd you think of F one?

574
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:46,520
Speaker 4: The movie? I have not seen the movie.

575
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:50,160
Speaker 2: I know nothing about F one at all. I thought

576
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:52,200
Speaker 2: they they held my hand pretty through it. I liked it.

577
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:56,720
Speaker 1: You ever, Dripley, those cars, No, never have never had.

578
00:26:56,920 --> 00:27:00,359
Speaker 1: Nobody's ever asked, so I've never done it, but probably

579
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,360
Speaker 1: never will be asked. Which is, you know, totally respect

580
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 1: that too, But why do you say that, Uh, well,

581
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:10,919
Speaker 1: it's a totally different path number one, not saying that

582
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,360
Speaker 1: I could or or couldn't do it. You know, it's

583
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 1: a it's just a different discipline. Truthfully, I'm way too old,

584
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,480
Speaker 1: which is crazy, but I'm I'm too old at this

585
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:24,120
Speaker 1: point in my life to even think about making a

586
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:27,679
Speaker 1: transition of that nature. I mean that they're those teams

587
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 1: are are signing kids when they're you know, probably ten

588
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:35,720
Speaker 1: years old or something and bringing them up through some

589
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:38,840
Speaker 1: sort of a farm system, and if they get developed

590
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:40,640
Speaker 1: and they have think they have a chance, then they

591
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 1: you know, get opportunities. But the cars, you know, certainly

592
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:47,240
Speaker 1: from you know, being a motorsports fan. I love watching

593
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 1: F one. I've really enjoyed watching their racing over the

594
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 1: past probably I don't know, six seven years or something

595
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:58,640
Speaker 1: like that. Uh, you know, had seen some great battles

596
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:03,359
Speaker 1: between Max and Lua, and you know Lewis and Nico Rosberg.

597
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:05,639
Speaker 1: You know that was a great rivalry. If you're just

598
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 1: now watching the F one movie, you probably.

599
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:09,480
Speaker 2: All I know is Lewis, he wars the likes on

600
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 2: each wrist. It's the only thing I know about it.

601
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:12,960
Speaker 2: I mean, I know, ye, he's super famous and rich.

602
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 4: That way, great race car driver too.

603
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 1: I know he's had a tough year, but some amazing

604
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 1: battles and yeah, F one has been a great product

605
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 1: and they've done a great job marketing it.

606
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 4: And you know, I've heard the movie is great.

607
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:27,119
Speaker 1: I haven't seen it, But I've never been huge on

608
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:31,359
Speaker 1: motorsports movies in general. I just always feel I'm very

609
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:33,680
Speaker 1: much a purist when it comes to like I want

610
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:38,760
Speaker 1: things to be represented exactly like it should be, and

611
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,720
Speaker 1: I just think it's really hard to put what we

612
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:45,000
Speaker 1: do as as you know, race car drivers and motorsports

613
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 1: in general the perfect way in a film. So I

614
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 1: always get super picky about that, but everybody, everyone says

615
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:54,960
Speaker 1: it was done really well and I should probably go,

616
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 1: you know, check it out.

617
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 2: My favorite F one driver, Brad Pitt.

618
00:28:58,440 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 4: Oh, well, easy choice.

619
00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 2: I'm new to this part. Yeah, my favorite though.

620
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's good, perfect, He's probably one for one. He

621
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 4: I assume he won the race.

622
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 2: Not spoiling it.

623
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 4: Okay, he might die, maybe he does.

624
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 2: Okay. I got two more uneducated questions, although you said

625
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 2: my other one was pretty educated, so I appreciate that. Yeah,

626
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:20,720
Speaker 2: I'm curious about what it does to your body, meaning

627
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 2: do you weigh yourself and this may sound so stupid

628
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 2: pre and post because and do you lose a lot

629
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 2: of water during the race? And how do you stay hydrate?

630
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 2: I mean, is there like a hamster tube like what

631
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 2: happens in there with your body?

632
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:36,280
Speaker 4: Yeah?

633
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:38,480
Speaker 1: So you you are sweating a lot, no doubt. I

634
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:40,480
Speaker 1: mean you're definitely losing a lot of water weight throughout

635
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 1: a race.

636
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:41,240
Speaker 4: It's hot.

637
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:43,960
Speaker 1: I would say that's the toughest part for us physically,

638
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 1: is the heat and sustaining that for three or four hours.

639
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 1: But we do have water, you know, you know, drink

640
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 1: bags almost like a camelback.

641
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 4: I guess would be the best way.

642
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 2: To not like a hamster too how I described it now?

643
00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, no, but what do you lose?

644
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 2: What do you per race?

645
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,960
Speaker 1: You know, I have never personally weighed myself after a race,

646
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 1: but I have had friends who who have, and it's

647
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:10,200
Speaker 1: on a really really hot weekend, like five.

648
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 4: To eight pounds something along those lines.

649
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 2: So is there specific food that you eat before a

650
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 2: race or race day that you know does your body

651
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 2: the best?

652
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 4: Yes?

653
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 1: I mean I'm typically really really boring on just race

654
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 1: day food in general, like chicken rice or you know,

655
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,240
Speaker 1: some sort of pasta type situation.

656
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 4: But it's uh, if you.

657
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 2: Went to El Chico before a race, would that be bad?

658
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:35,240
Speaker 2: That would be bad? Okay? It really does some work

659
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 2: on you while you're in there.

660
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:39,920
Speaker 1: Absolutely, yeah. I mean drinking hydration is a huge piece

661
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:41,400
Speaker 1: of it. But also what you eat too, I mean

662
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 1: you can you can make bad, bad choices on that

663
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 1: side of things too.

664
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:47,120
Speaker 2: Final question, do you ever just want to turn heel?

665
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 2: Because you're very popular? You want all the he's our favorite,

666
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 2: he's you're in car, you're in cars. Do you ever

667
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 2: just want to turn heel one day and same sponsor

668
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:56,200
Speaker 2: for show up on like all black and be like

669
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 2: screw everybody, like a little bit. That'd be fun, right, Oh,

670
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 2: it definitely Hogan type stuff.

671
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 1: It would definitely be fun, for sure. And I think

672
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 1: it would just catch a lot of people off guard.

673
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:08,719
Speaker 1: Maybe I will, maybe I will. Maybe you know, maybe

674
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 1: one day you just show up and dry by a

675
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 1: flip off, you know, go to the dark side. Yeah,

676
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 1: that's that's it. That's the next step.

677
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 4: It's not out of the question. It's not out of

678
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 4: the question.

679
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 1: You know, you never know. Somebody might be getting the

680
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 1: bird this weekend. Now that you get me fired up

681
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 1: about it.

682
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 2: What makes you like a mean driver? What makes someone

683
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 2: like it's someone that is it because they like bump you.

684
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say, you know, I don't look at somebody

685
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 1: and be like, oh man, he's mean. I just think

686
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 1: that most you know, some guys just choose to race, like,

687
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:44,240
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know how the best way to

688
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 1: describe this other than just they race like some of

689
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 1: them just do.

690
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 4: And and like people drive, yeah, like.

691
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 1: People drive on the road, like people cutting you off

692
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 1: on the highway or you know, just do dumb stuff

693
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 1: right that You're like, it's not even that it was,

694
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 1: it's just sometimes you're like, why was that necessary? You

695
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, And I think there's just a

696
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:08,720
Speaker 1: certain level of racing etiquette, and you know, you have

697
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 1: either have respect for your competitors or you don't. Sometimes

698
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 1: you get shown signs of disrespect and you're like, man,

699
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 1: that was just kind of unnecessary. So it's not really

700
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 1: like hey, you're being mean. It's just more like, hey

701
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 1: that you know, you're not doing either one of us

702
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 1: any favors.

703
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:23,560
Speaker 4: That was kind of dumb.

704
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 2: Chase Elliott I really appreciate the time my final final

705
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 2: final question is I.

706
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 4: Know you got you any more last questions?

707
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 2: You're like, A, well, I do final, then I do

708
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 2: final Final, then I do final final Final, Okay, it's

709
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 2: the final, final Final. Do you still get excited when

710
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 2: like a box of cool like merch comes in like front,

711
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 2: you know, like if you get boxes of shoes and stuff,

712
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 2: you're like, oh cool, let's see what we got this time?

713
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 1: Oh man, for sure. Yeah, Like you asked about the

714
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 1: Georgia attire. Yeah, yeah, they they sent me some stuff

715
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 1: like a couple months ago.

716
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 2: So it's still cool to you when that stuff comes in.

717
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's awesome.

718
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 1: I'm like a you know, a kid in the candy store,

719
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:04,960
Speaker 1: right like like you know, Christmas came in August, you know,

720
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:09,719
Speaker 1: and I'm just excited for uh, you know, for the season,

721
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:12,960
Speaker 1: and you know love you know, love that stuff. So yeah, absolutely,

722
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 1: I get fired up for for that sort of thing.

723
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 1: I don't think you ever grow out of that when

724
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 1: you know, when you're a fan of something.

725
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 2: Saturday, September thirteenth, the Best Pro Shops Night Race at

726
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 2: Bristol Motor speed Away. Coverage began to six thirty pm

727
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 2: Central on USA Chase. Good to see you appreciate the

728
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 2: time and good luck, man.

729
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, thanks for having me, guys, appreciate it.

730
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 7: The Bobby Cast will be right back. This is the

731
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 7: Bobby Cast.

732
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 2: Okay, we're gonna go into the top ten live music Tragedies.

733
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 2: We're gonna call this when the music turned deadly? Oh man,

734
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 2: what comes to your mind?

735
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 3: So like explain, like, uh, it happened like during a

736
00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 3: live show.

737
00:33:57,560 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 2: People die at a live music event.

738
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:02,960
Speaker 3: I mean, this is I mean, let's start with because I.

739
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 2: Have ten and I won't start where you start, But

740
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:08,319
Speaker 2: I wonder what you think makes it? Din Bag Daryl, No,

741
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:12,439
Speaker 2: I think you're going individual like dine Back Darrel. Okay,

742
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:14,319
Speaker 2: I think that counts because he was shot during a show,

743
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:15,959
Speaker 2: and that guy shot in the middle of the show

744
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:20,919
Speaker 2: on stage, Pantara guitar player. Yeah, this is what you're saying, though,

745
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:21,759
Speaker 2: I'll give you number ten.

746
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 3: Okay.

747
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:23,920
Speaker 2: Astro World Festival in Houston, Texas.

748
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:26,399
Speaker 3: Dude, there's a whole documentary on that that is.

749
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 2: Yes, Travis Scott or fifty thousand people. As Travis Scott

750
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 2: took the stage, the massive crowd surged forward. Thousands were

751
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:36,879
Speaker 2: pressed into barricades at the front, with a little room

752
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 2: to breathe or move. Despite visible distress, unconscious bodies, and

753
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:43,720
Speaker 2: calls for help, the show continued for over thirty more minutes.

754
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 2: Emergency response was delayed and overwhelmed. Video of fans screaming

755
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:50,279
Speaker 2: for the show to stop when viral. Ten people died

756
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 2: hundreds were injured.

757
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:57,759
Speaker 3: I don't understand how the communication doesn't get sent to

758
00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:00,759
Speaker 3: the authorities that something bad is happened. You know, Like

759
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:03,920
Speaker 3: we've been at a show where we're playing and you see

760
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,719
Speaker 3: that something's not right, you know. I remember we were

761
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 3: playing a show somewhere and somebody was like he's dead,

762
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:11,400
Speaker 3: and turns out they just passed out. But you know,

763
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 3: we saw that, and yes that was kind of daylight

764
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 3: and all that, but these were hundreds of people screaming

765
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:20,360
Speaker 3: at the guards saying like we are getting crushed.

766
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 2: I think the difference is and I'm not justifying it,

767
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,719
Speaker 2: but I'm going how did they miss this one? The

768
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:29,400
Speaker 2: biggest factor of this was understaffed security, so they didn't

769
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:32,799
Speaker 2: have enough people to actually stop it because we don't

770
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:34,840
Speaker 2: know that some people didn't see it and try to

771
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 2: stop it.

772
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:35,399
Speaker 3: Right.

773
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 2: There was very poor crowdflow, the organization of getting people

774
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:42,279
Speaker 2: places and people could get out and people would get

775
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 2: trapped like that. It was set up poorly.

776
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 3: From what I understand is a lot of people snuck in.

777
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 3: I think it was more people than they anticipated to

778
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:51,400
Speaker 3: be there were actually there because they broke the gates.

779
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 8: And it was almost encouraged to run in.

780
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:57,400
Speaker 2: And Travis Scott has been known to encourage his crowds

781
00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:00,200
Speaker 2: to get rowdy, to do a lot of I mean

782
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:03,279
Speaker 2: thinking of a mosh pit though, oh crazy, right, so

783
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 2: it's a version that so I mean, looking down, I

784
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 2: don't know that he saw it was anything different because

785
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 2: he's just seeing people jumping around freaking out. Screaming, but

786
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 2: he's also got ears in and he's also got.

787
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 3: Oh totally, I wouldn't even put it on the artist.

788
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:18,440
Speaker 3: I wouldn't put it on him because I don't think

789
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:20,239
Speaker 3: it was right in front of him. Really, I would

790
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:21,280
Speaker 3: just put it on security.

791
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 8: I watched the documentary a little bit. It is on

792
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:25,799
Speaker 8: him because they were telling him in his ear that

793
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,400
Speaker 8: people are getting hurt of really and he chose to continue.

794
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:28,880
Speaker 3: Wow.

795
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:31,880
Speaker 8: And what actually like what happened was that there was

796
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 8: one stage that was just meant for Travis Scott. Nobody

797
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:36,799
Speaker 8: else used that stage the entire time, so whenever he

798
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 8: went on, all these people rushed to this stage and

799
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 8: this one particular area they all just came in flowing

800
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 8: from the other stages, and that's where people got crushed.

801
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 3: That area.

802
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:48,840
Speaker 8: Yeah, this one specific area like stage the left, that

803
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 8: all these people were piling into because it was flowing

804
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 8: in from the other stages, and that's where people were dying.

805
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 3: Yeah.

806
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 2: I think what I'd like my official statement on this

807
00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:01,759
Speaker 2: is it wasn't one thing. There were like nine things

808
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:05,360
Speaker 2: that went wrong, and I think the biggest thing was

809
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 2: just not having enough staff and not having it not

810
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 2: having just from I didn't watch the documentary, but from

811
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:14,120
Speaker 2: what I read about it, not having enough people make

812
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 2: proper decisions about the safety of people.

813
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 8: Yeah, because there were like a few text messages that

814
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:20,279
Speaker 8: went out before he went on stage saying, Hey, something

815
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 8: bad it's gonna happen here.

816
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 2: And it just kept going. Over four hundred lossits were filed.

817
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 2: Live Nation and Travis Scott were heavily scrutinized. I can

818
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,760
Speaker 2: tell you the good thing that's come from this is now,

819
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:32,719
Speaker 2: when an artist see something happening, you see it all

820
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:35,279
Speaker 2: the time, they stop a show, Yeah, they and it

821
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 2: always goes viral. But that this is why, because that

822
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 2: triggered everybody to go, oh, we got to watch. Now

823
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:44,239
Speaker 2: we have to also be in charge and not just

824
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 2: trust the people on the ground to do it, because

825
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 2: maybe there's not enough people on the ground, or maybe

826
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 2: they haven't been trained enough or maybe so Yeah, that's

827
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 2: number ten on the list, number nine the WHO Consort

828
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:56,239
Speaker 2: of nineteen seventy nine since out of Ohio. I went

829
00:37:56,280 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 2: there for that Riverfront Coliseum. Were you alive? December three,

830
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:00,799
Speaker 2: nineteen seventy nine.

831
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 3: I was born. I just turned I just was born

832
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:04,400
Speaker 3: March twenty first that year.

833
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:05,759
Speaker 2: So you could have been there. I wasn't born yet.

834
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 2: Attendance was more than eighteen thousand, thousands of fans all

835
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:13,719
Speaker 2: general emission, waited outside. It was December and Ohio, so

836
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:17,719
Speaker 2: that means it was snowing cold. When they heard the

837
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 2: Who's sound check, they thought the show had started. So

838
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 2: there was only like a couple of doors open. All

839
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:28,920
Speaker 2: the people that were waiting out thought the show had started.

840
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:31,800
Speaker 2: So then what happens They run in. They stampeded. Wow,

841
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 2: a stampeded toward the entrance. Eleven fans died. They were trampled,

842
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:39,759
Speaker 2: they were crushed. Lack of communication again it all. It

843
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 2: almost always goes back to inadequate staffing. And then also

844
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 2: the staff you do have, they're not really being taught properly.

845
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 2: But also that job turns over so much, it's not

846
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 2: like you have full time.

847
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:51,799
Speaker 4: Yeah.

848
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:57,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, fans were told the band hadn't started, but because

849
00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 2: the music had started, other fans were saying, I think

850
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:01,399
Speaker 2: the band is still so then then it's group think

851
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 2: and then it's chaos. And so that was it.

852
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 3: And you think people, I mean people in crowds, like

853
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 3: it's just if you're all running a crowd of say

854
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 3: you know, five hundred people and a few people fall.

855
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:18,360
Speaker 2: No one's stopping because you don't even see them because

856
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 2: everybody's so packed, so tight.

857
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:22,880
Speaker 3: No same with Astra World, you know, like there's so

858
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 3: many people you don't even know anyone's getting crushed.

859
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:29,799
Speaker 2: Cincinnati banned festival seating for decades. The who devastated learned

860
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 2: of the deaths after the show met with victims' families.

861
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 2: It's used as a case studying event training even today.

862
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:40,640
Speaker 2: Number nine the Altamont Free Concert nineteen sixty nine, Northern California,

863
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:44,360
Speaker 2: The Stones Jefferson Airplane. An eighteen year old was stabbed

864
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:45,800
Speaker 2: to death by Hell's Angels.

865
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 3: Does it say his name?

866
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:49,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's very like Meredith Hunter. It pulled a gun

867
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:52,239
Speaker 2: apparently during the Rolling Stone set. Meredith Hunter, an eighteen

868
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:53,839
Speaker 2: year old black man, was stabbed to death by Hell's

869
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:55,279
Speaker 2: Angels after allegedly pulling a gun.

870
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:56,280
Speaker 3: Yeah.

871
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:59,959
Speaker 2: One murder, dozens of injuries, multiple beatings during the day. Boy,

872
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 2: you get Hell's Angels in there, They're not you're talking

873
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:03,800
Speaker 2: about it, not trained.

874
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:07,840
Speaker 3: They're a motorcycle gang, right like, it's a motorcycle club

875
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:11,880
Speaker 3: with a bad reputation, and they held up to that

876
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 3: reputation again. Hold documentary on that. I think it's called

877
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:15,440
Speaker 3: Gimme Shelter.

878
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 2: Because I've always heard that that that tail, the tail

879
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 2: of the Rolling Stones hiring the Hell's Angels.

880
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't realize it was a music festal I

881
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:21,720
Speaker 3: have video of it too.

882
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:24,440
Speaker 2: Woodstock ninety nine. I've seen this documentary.

883
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 3: Oh this is crazy, this one's crazy.

884
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:28,400
Speaker 2: Over two hundred thousand people. They had it at an

885
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 2: abandoned Air Force base. Yes, and it was so hot,

886
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:33,840
Speaker 2: and I think if the Air Force bace it was

887
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:34,360
Speaker 2: all concrete.

888
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:36,840
Speaker 3: Ye, all concrete. They didn't have enough water for everyone.

889
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:40,239
Speaker 2: Bottle water costs four dollars. Well, now that's not even

890
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:43,880
Speaker 2: that much, but that was a lot. Yeah, food was overprised,

891
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 2: the toilets were overflowing. I remember that being a big

892
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:51,880
Speaker 2: part of it. They can try to blame the artists,

893
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 2: and they do. They blame Limp Biscuit. They did break

894
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:58,400
Speaker 2: stuff the documentary. They did that stuff, the chili peppers.

895
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:00,799
Speaker 2: You know, people start sitting fire then earn it. But

896
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:03,879
Speaker 2: the crowd was already there and it was a very

897
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 2: aggressive lineup. Anyway, because I remember that documentary, I think

898
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:10,760
Speaker 2: it was Joel was like I was like the only girl.

899
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think Atlantis maybe.

900
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 2: Maybe that's even who it was. It was like it

901
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 2: was just so aggressive.

902
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 3: And it was you know like Sandwich by Offspring and

903
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:20,400
Speaker 3: Limp Biscuit, you know, so interesting.

904
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:25,280
Speaker 2: Zero official deaths, but a lot of sexual assaults. Yeah,

905
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 2: and then a lot of people getting treated for like dehydration, yeah,

906
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 2: heat stroke, being hurt. It's kind of hard to get

907
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:34,280
Speaker 2: out of there as well, because there's so many people

908
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 2: in an area that there weren't that many roads in

909
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 2: and out, kind of like the original Woodstock. They credit

910
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:44,279
Speaker 2: it to greed, just agreed because people wanted to make money.

911
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 2: They didn't make sure the other stuff was taken care of.

912
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 3: Which wasn't the problem with the original Woodstock. I think

913
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:51,239
Speaker 3: they lost a lot of money because again they broke

914
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:52,839
Speaker 3: down the fences there.

915
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:56,400
Speaker 5: Let's take a quick pause for a message from our sponsor.

916
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 7: And we're back on the Bobby Cast.

917
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:09,239
Speaker 2: A lot of this stuff has documentaries on h huh.

918
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:11,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, so far, I think everything you've mentioned has a

919
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 3: documentary on it.

920
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 2: Do you know about Pearl Jam at the rose killde Festival.

921
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:18,840
Speaker 3: Pop Pop Pop Skilled or is it Sweden?

922
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 2: It's in Denmark?

923
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 3: Or Denmark.

924
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:22,440
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, rose killfestor on they trying

925
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 2: to say it June thirtieth to two thousand, over one

926
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 2: hundred thousand people.

927
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 3: What do you know? It was the same kind of

928
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:29,480
Speaker 3: situation where people were getting crushed in the front, a

929
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 3: lot of mud. Maybe three people died, nine oh gosh,

930
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 3: nine people. Eddie noticed something was wrong. Eddie Vedder noticed

931
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 3: something was wrong. He tried to stop it. But by

932
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:41,320
Speaker 3: that time, yeah, people were already hurt. And they didn't

933
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 3: play for two years.

934
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:44,800
Speaker 2: It says that almost disbanded out of grief.

935
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:46,279
Speaker 3: He said it too, He's like, if I swear if

936
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:48,440
Speaker 3: anyone's hurt here, like we'll never play again. And they

937
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 3: didn't play for like two years, and then they eventually

938
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 3: played again.

939
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:54,919
Speaker 2: But during Pearl Jam set, fans rushed forward. Slippery mud,

940
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 2: crowd density and low visibility led to fans falling and

941
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 2: being trampled. Pearl Jams stopped playing is they know to

942
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:04,280
Speaker 2: chaos in the crowd. Nine young men died, crushed or suffocated.

943
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 2: Organizers were overwhelmed, so to respond, Pearl jem nearly disband

944
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 2: out of grief.

945
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 3: I've been to shows where like I feel, I felt

946
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:15,880
Speaker 3: like we were getting really squashed, but never to the

947
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 3: point where I can't even imagine what it feels like

948
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 3: to be so pushed up against something where you're gonna die,

949
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. Like, I've definitely been in

950
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 3: tight quarters where we're trying to like stop stop, like

951
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:30,760
Speaker 3: stop pushing. It's getting tight, but to the point where

952
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 3: like you die because you're getting squished so hard?

953
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:35,400
Speaker 4: Is it? Man?

954
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:38,919
Speaker 2: The Indiana Fair State collapse. I remember that one sugar Land,

955
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 2: sugar Land the storm, yea, the wind this is the

956
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:45,400
Speaker 2: stage right, yep, So twelve thousand people there, a sudden

957
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 2: sixty to seventy mile per hour gust of wind hits

958
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 2: right before sugar Land set the stage, rigging collapsed onto

959
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:54,800
Speaker 2: the crowd. Fans had little warning or time to evacuate.

960
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:58,359
Speaker 2: Seven people died, fifty eight injured severe. Whether alerts were

961
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 2: ignored or downplayed, there were inadequate structural reinforcements. It led

962
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:05,800
Speaker 2: to legal battles over responsibility was at the state, the stage,

963
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:10,680
Speaker 2: the company, the band, families got big settlements in the millions,

964
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 2: and that ended up creating new standards for outdoor stages.

965
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:15,400
Speaker 4: Yeah.

966
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, So have you ever.

967
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 3: Talked to a Christian about that, like, have you ever

968
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:20,240
Speaker 3: done a Bobbycast or anything with Christian?

969
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:23,319
Speaker 2: Yes, but it's a long time ago, over ten years ago,

970
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:25,720
Speaker 2: and I don't remember what he said, but I'm pretty

971
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 2: sure we touched on it, right, Mike, I'm pretty sure

972
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:28,719
Speaker 2: we did.

973
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 8: Yeah.

974
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:32,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've been going through the archives, done so many interviews.

975
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 2: I was thinking the other day I saw somebody on

976
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:37,759
Speaker 2: Instagram and it was a songwriter and I was like, Oh,

977
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:40,200
Speaker 2: that's interesting. I don't think I've ever met them, And

978
00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 2: then I clicked to see if they've ever a message

979
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:44,400
Speaker 2: to me, because I'll do that sometimes. And we've done

980
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:45,240
Speaker 2: a Bobbycast together.

981
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 3: That's crazy. How many how many do you have?

982
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 2: Uh, this is five thirty two?

983
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:53,840
Speaker 3: Wow, that's insane.

984
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:56,879
Speaker 2: So I would imagine we've done four hundred and fifty

985
00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:58,400
Speaker 2: interviews at least.

986
00:44:58,480 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's amazing.

987
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 2: It's a lot. I don't even remember everybody I've interviewed, obviously,

988
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:06,319
Speaker 2: about looking at that Instagram and going like, I wonder

989
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:07,880
Speaker 2: if I ever met them or if we ever DMed,

990
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 2: and it's like, Oh, we've done it.

991
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 3: What's cool. Has most of them been to your house?

992
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 3: That's the cool part too.

993
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:17,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, almost all almost all and to think of the

994
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:18,760
Speaker 2: house as the condo downtown.

995
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 6: Hm.

996
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:20,359
Speaker 2: That's where we started this.

997
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:21,880
Speaker 3: Where would you do that?

998
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:24,040
Speaker 2: Where would you a room? We set up a little thing.

999
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 2: I remember, Caitlin Smith and Ryan heard being two of

1000
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 2: our first ones, right. And so then the condo flooded

1001
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 2: because they broke a pipe above and so I had

1002
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 2: to move to another house and we set up another

1003
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 2: studio in another bedroom at the very top of this house,

1004
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 2: and so people would come in the house front door

1005
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:45,440
Speaker 2: going up. That's crazy, yeah, looking back and kind of crazy.

1006
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:47,919
Speaker 2: And then from that house moved to the other house

1007
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 2: when I was in Bellmead, and that was in the

1008
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:51,239
Speaker 2: house too, but you came in the front door and

1009
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 2: went right up the stairs.

1010
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:52,799
Speaker 3: I remember that one.

1011
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 2: That was a bigger kind of like extra room they

1012
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:58,279
Speaker 2: call it. So we had a studio space up there,

1013
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:00,360
Speaker 2: but they still had to come in the house. And

1014
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 2: so that's also when COVID hit and my wife who

1015
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 2: was my girlfriend at the time before she was my fiance,

1016
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 2: she was there and she was like, man, it's kind

1017
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:08,319
Speaker 2: of weird people come in your house. And I was like, oh,

1018
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:08,920
Speaker 2: I never really.

1019
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:10,399
Speaker 3: Thought about that because you were just single dude.

1020
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:11,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, and she was also liken, I weird, you never

1021
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 2: come out of your bedroom, and I was like, yeah,

1022
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:14,399
Speaker 2: you know, I never thought of that. I never really

1023
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:17,320
Speaker 2: thought about that either. This is live in the bedroom.

1024
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 2: And so we got a new house with gates around

1025
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:23,320
Speaker 2: it and it had a separate building on the property

1026
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 2: for the first time. And so we lived there, sold

1027
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 2: that one in the place where now there's a building

1028
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 2: on property. You don't have to come in the house.

1029
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 2: It's perfect, it's perfect. But we're moving out of that,

1030
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:36,879
Speaker 2: not the house. Yeah, we're going to have our own

1031
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:40,279
Speaker 2: independent property off the no one lives there. Yeah, because

1032
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 2: now it's like it's weird people are coming to my

1033
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 2: yard all the time because I don't even know these people.

1034
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:47,520
Speaker 2: So yeah, we used to do them in a bedroom.

1035
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 2: And I know Christian and I had to talk about that.

1036
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:52,280
Speaker 2: Now we're at Route ninety one Harvest Festival number three,

1037
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 2: So our connection there is we played Eddie and I

1038
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 2: played the night before it happened. Now we were gone,

1039
00:46:57,760 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 2: we were already home.

1040
00:46:58,719 --> 00:46:58,959
Speaker 4: Yep.

1041
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:02,239
Speaker 2: I remember we had played our show and we played

1042
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:04,359
Speaker 2: late in the night. Believe it or not, they we

1043
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 2: were at dark playing that massive festival.

1044
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 3: I think we were like third before yeah, third of

1045
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:10,920
Speaker 3: the end.

1046
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:15,440
Speaker 2: So it's like main headhead Maine support us in like

1047
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 2: five acts before us.

1048
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:16,759
Speaker 3: Yep.

1049
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of crazy that they had us in

1050
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 2: bizarre places.

1051
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 3: Man, I don't know. I didn't argue with that one enough.

1052
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:23,879
Speaker 3: I know that's pretty good.

1053
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:28,960
Speaker 2: So we played on like a Saturday night. We wake up,

1054
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:30,799
Speaker 2: we get our flights, we go back home the next

1055
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:35,040
Speaker 2: morning on Sunday and whatever. And then I get a

1056
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 2: call late at night from Jaco and who I think

1057
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 2: he had played Sunday, yes, like pre Aldan was like

1058
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 2: where are you? It was like eleven o'clock it was

1059
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:49,480
Speaker 2: even later because they're at two hours back correct, And

1060
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:51,759
Speaker 2: I was like huh. He's like are you here? And

1061
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 2: he was acting weird. I was like what and he's like,

1062
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 2: somebody just shot and killed a bunch people at the

1063
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 2: festival and I was like, no, I'm gone. It weren't

1064
00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:00,640
Speaker 2: as and I couldn't really connect because it was half asleep.

1065
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:02,440
Speaker 2: So I got up and that's when we realized there

1066
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:04,720
Speaker 2: was all that the guys are shooting and killing everybody

1067
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:05,320
Speaker 2: from the hotel.

1068
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 3: He was barricaded, right, so he called you from wherever

1069
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:09,480
Speaker 3: he was barricaded.

1070
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:12,120
Speaker 2: Yes, but he and I don't know which version of

1071
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:13,839
Speaker 2: barricade because I think he moved around a little bit

1072
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 2: like that. He was in like a behind stage and

1073
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:20,360
Speaker 2: like a refrigerator or something. Then gotten a butt. I

1074
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:22,480
Speaker 2: don't know what happened. But then we came on the

1075
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:24,239
Speaker 2: air like three o'clock that morning, just turned on the

1076
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:26,720
Speaker 2: switch and the satellite because we're like, what is happening.

1077
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:29,719
Speaker 2: But that was October first, twenty seventeen, the Route ninety

1078
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:32,200
Speaker 2: one Harvest Festival. A gunman fired over one thousand rounds

1079
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 2: from thirty second floor the Mandala Bay Hotel directly into

1080
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:38,799
Speaker 2: the concert crowd. Chaos erupted. It lasted ten minutes. Think

1081
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 2: about that ten minutes. It's a long time of just shooting.

1082
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:42,759
Speaker 3: Yeap.

1083
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:45,600
Speaker 2: Fifty eight people were killed. Over eight hundred and fifty

1084
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:49,720
Speaker 2: people were injured. The shooter had stockpiled over twenty assault rifles.

1085
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:53,960
Speaker 2: The motive still is unclear. It exposed the vulnerability of

1086
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:57,719
Speaker 2: open air concerts that area. Is it even being used now?

1087
00:48:57,840 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 3: No?

1088
00:48:58,120 --> 00:48:58,959
Speaker 2: Or is it still down?

1089
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:02,320
Speaker 3: It's just an open lot. Really drove by it a

1090
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:05,880
Speaker 3: few months ago. It's just still there. There's nothing there.

1091
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 2: Because that festival was there, but we also did stuff

1092
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 2: for our company. We had a big outdoor festival before

1093
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:14,319
Speaker 2: our I Already Music festival was kind of used a

1094
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 2: lot for that, Yeah, because it was right on the

1095
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:16,600
Speaker 2: right of the edge of the strip.

1096
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:17,480
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1097
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:18,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's crazy.

1098
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:20,560
Speaker 3: That was a crazy moment.

1099
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:22,520
Speaker 2: It's kind of a sad one to do. Like, it's

1100
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:24,319
Speaker 2: wild to think about the stuff because we were alive

1101
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 2: for most of them. But yeah, it's kind of bringing

1102
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:26,840
Speaker 2: me down and be honest with you.

1103
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I guess it's good to talk about

1104
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:30,879
Speaker 3: this stuff, but yeah, it's sad.

1105
00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:33,240
Speaker 2: Number two. I remember where we were when this happened.

1106
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:36,760
Speaker 2: It's the I think it's called the Bodiclon Theater in Paris.

1107
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:40,760
Speaker 2: Is this some the Eagles of death Metal were playing,

1108
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:44,440
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and during the concert, three armed Iis terraces

1109
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:47,279
Speaker 2: stormed in open fire on the crowd, reloaded several times,

1110
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:51,240
Speaker 2: took hostages. French special special forces storm the building. Ninety

1111
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:54,480
Speaker 2: were killed over one hundred and thirty across Paris that night,

1112
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:56,920
Speaker 2: but ninety people were killed from that show. There were

1113
00:49:57,000 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 2: coordinated ices attacks from what I remember, all across Paris.

1114
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:04,360
Speaker 2: We were doing a show in Richmond, Virginia.

1115
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:05,319
Speaker 3: That's right.

1116
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:07,960
Speaker 2: What I remember about that show is we were we

1117
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:11,479
Speaker 2: were about to go on. Yeah, we were right about

1118
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:11,799
Speaker 2: to go on.

1119
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:13,640
Speaker 3: We were right about to go on, and I guess

1120
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 3: you know Paris, France time is what is it, five hours?

1121
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:20,400
Speaker 3: Maybe seven seven hours? So yeah, so it had just

1122
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:24,439
Speaker 3: happened and we were it was nighttime here. Yeah, We're

1123
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:25,680
Speaker 3: just about to go on stage, and you were just

1124
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 3: like what.

1125
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:29,839
Speaker 2: I was like, what do we do? We went on.

1126
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:31,960
Speaker 2: I remember I blew my voice that night, singing.

1127
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:38,960
Speaker 3: H five thousands and we were Mike, it was so stupid,

1128
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:40,959
Speaker 3: like we had just like I think somebody was playing

1129
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:43,040
Speaker 3: chords and we're like that sounds like that song, and

1130
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:44,840
Speaker 3: we just started singing it and Bobby's like, let's do

1131
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:46,560
Speaker 3: that tonight, Let's practice it.

1132
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:47,799
Speaker 2: Over and over and over.

1133
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:53,080
Speaker 3: I think we blew our voices out on the and

1134
00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:55,120
Speaker 3: then yeah, and then Bobby's like, whoa, well, hold on,

1135
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:57,920
Speaker 3: Like I was like, theaters, gotta tell we were in

1136
00:50:57,920 --> 00:50:58,239
Speaker 3: a theater.

1137
00:50:58,760 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 2: I didn't think it was gonna be but I was like,

1138
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:02,719
Speaker 2: what if this is like all over?

1139
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:03,080
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1140
00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 3: Absolutely?

1141
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:09,839
Speaker 2: Yeah? Number one? What do you think Number one is? So?

1142
00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:12,359
Speaker 2: Number one? Your first guest? I don't. I wasn't wrong,

1143
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:14,080
Speaker 2: because I think you just had a different idea of

1144
00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 2: what this was.

1145
00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:15,839
Speaker 3: I understand what we're doing now.

1146
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:17,880
Speaker 2: You know this one.

1147
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:20,160
Speaker 3: I mean, gosh, I would put route ninety one and

1148
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:23,880
Speaker 3: number one, but I did think of Ariana Grande.

1149
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 2: That was honorable mention. That was the Manchester Arena bombing. Yes,

1150
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:31,240
Speaker 2: May twenty second, twenty seventeen. The show ended and fans

1151
00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:33,680
Speaker 2: began exiting a twenty two year old suicide bomber detonated

1152
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:37,920
Speaker 2: explosive device. Twenty people were killed. And that was the

1153
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:39,399
Speaker 2: one that it was basically number eleven, and.

1154
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:41,440
Speaker 3: She still comes back and gives.

1155
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:43,600
Speaker 2: She canceled the rest of her tour, then returned the

1156
00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 2: host to the One Love Manchester benefit concert two weeks

1157
00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:50,680
Speaker 2: later with Coldplay, Bieber Miley. They raised over thirteen million dollars.

1158
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:56,320
Speaker 3: Number one give me him like maybe a time frame.

1159
00:51:56,160 --> 00:52:00,080
Speaker 2: Two thousand and three America.

1160
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:01,360
Speaker 3: Thousand three in America.

1161
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:04,440
Speaker 2: It's tough to remember. You're gonna know it as soon

1162
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 2: as I say it.

1163
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:17,760
Speaker 3: Eighties Rock, Van Halen, def Leppard, Guns N' Roses, Motley Crue.

1164
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:20,400
Speaker 2: Not as famous.

1165
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:25,439
Speaker 3: I don't know. Great White, oh, Great White, I don't

1166
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:28,160
Speaker 3: what happened. I don't, I don't. Oh is there a fire?

1167
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 3: It's a fire?

1168
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:30,520
Speaker 2: During their shadowe.

1169
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:30,839
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1170
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:34,000
Speaker 2: So February twentieth, the rock band Great White took the

1171
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:36,000
Speaker 2: stage at the Station, a small club with four hundred

1172
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:38,680
Speaker 2: people inside. Oh yes, During the opening song, the band's

1173
00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:43,720
Speaker 2: tour manager set off pyro. It sent sparks fifteen feet

1174
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:44,359
Speaker 2: into the air.

1175
00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:45,880
Speaker 3: And it's a small club, right.

1176
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:49,600
Speaker 2: Within seconds Because the club had foam, I wouldn't there

1177
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:53,600
Speaker 2: was soundproofed. The walls ignited. The fire rapidly spread due

1178
00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:58,960
Speaker 2: to highly flammable poly eurothene foam or your athane foam.

1179
00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:01,280
Speaker 2: The entire club isn't goal and flamed in a five minutes.

1180
00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 2: Over one hundred people died.

1181
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, they were all.

1182
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:06,720
Speaker 2: Trapped in their two hundred and thirty were injured.

1183
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:08,320
Speaker 3: Man, that's crazy.

1184
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:11,359
Speaker 2: Criminal charge were filed against club owners and the band's

1185
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:13,719
Speaker 2: tour manager to owners played guilty to one hundred counts

1186
00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:16,280
Speaker 2: in the voluntary manslaughter. Yeah, that was a crazy one,

1187
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:17,799
Speaker 2: and I think maybe.

1188
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:20,080
Speaker 3: It's not as known because it's Great White.

1189
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:21,880
Speaker 2: And not only that, but because the club only had

1190
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:24,520
Speaker 2: four hundred people. Yeah, a lot of people die.

1191
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:26,359
Speaker 3: But massive, you really hurt.

1192
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:30,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, how do you even end this podcast?

1193
00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:32,480
Speaker 3: Who's whose idea was this is Mike?

1194
00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:38,120
Speaker 2: It was gonna be so dark, man. I mean I

1195
00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:39,879
Speaker 2: thought I was like, hey, do you want to hang

1196
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:41,880
Speaker 2: out and do the top live music tragedies?

1197
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:43,520
Speaker 3: And I love talking to you about this stuff.

1198
00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 2: But and he's like yeah, And then at about three

1199
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 2: n I'm like, man, this sucks. Yeah, yeah, I don't

1200
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 2: know what do we learn here?

1201
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 3: I mean, the pirate thing. It's like I don't even like,

1202
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:57,480
Speaker 3: why would you even in a club have pyro? You know,

1203
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:03,440
Speaker 3: like that's I It's so it's so hard because like

1204
00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:06,880
Speaker 3: concerts are such a cool thing, you know, and like

1205
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:10,839
Speaker 3: it's people that are there are there to have the

1206
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:13,719
Speaker 3: greatest of times. So when they end like this, it

1207
00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:17,239
Speaker 3: just is a gut renchery, right, Like it's just like

1208
00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:19,560
Speaker 3: this is not what's supposed to happen at a concert.

1209
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:21,319
Speaker 3: This is the last thing that's supposed to happen at

1210
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:21,720
Speaker 3: a concert.

1211
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:25,600
Speaker 2: There's like a understanding of vulnerability whence the like this

1212
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:27,600
Speaker 2: happens because you don't realize how vulnerable you are in

1213
00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:28,399
Speaker 2: a setting like that.

1214
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:29,759
Speaker 3: With a big crowd like that too.

1215
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:34,360
Speaker 2: Yeah yep, so well thanks everybody for listening.

1216
00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, I think doesn't Ariana? Is that a That

1217
00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:39,440
Speaker 3: one has a documentary too. I think all of these

1218
00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:40,480
Speaker 3: might have documentaries.

1219
00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:44,000
Speaker 2: I think the Great White One does. I don't like

1220
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:46,480
Speaker 2: watching those. I did watch the nine nine Woodstock with

1221
00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:48,799
Speaker 2: mostly I like the bands. I want to see what

1222
00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 2: this was about, and didn't realize it was that.

1223
00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:52,240
Speaker 3: I thought it was more about putting it, put it together,

1224
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:55,440
Speaker 3: you know, like how what it took to put that

1225
00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:56,360
Speaker 3: that festival together.

1226
00:54:56,960 --> 00:55:00,000
Speaker 2: Thank you guys, thanks to Chase Elliott and we have enough.

1227
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:04,120
Speaker 2: The episode coming up later this week with Chit Jay Renshaw.

1228
00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:04,759
Speaker 3: Yes, do it?

1229
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:05,279
Speaker 6: Do it? Do it?

1230
00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:05,640
Speaker 2: Lady?

1231
00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:07,200
Speaker 3: Success do it?

1232
00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:09,640
Speaker 2: Uh? If you want to go and check out what

1233
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:13,680
Speaker 2: Chit's about. So Chit is a dude. Jay Renshaw created

1234
00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:16,000
Speaker 2: this character him another guy that actually films it in

1235
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:19,480
Speaker 2: his the voice behind behind the camera, and it has

1236
00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:22,080
Speaker 2: gone massively viral on TikTok and Eddie and I sent

1237
00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:23,960
Speaker 2: the episodes back and forth and so we got Chit

1238
00:55:24,040 --> 00:55:26,400
Speaker 2: to come on and so we'll talk to Chit. Jay Renshaw,

1239
00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:29,280
Speaker 2: you a little here, Yeah.

1240
00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:29,960
Speaker 6: Is there a black person here?

1241
00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:30,959
Speaker 3: What did you just say?

1242
00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:33,239
Speaker 6: I said, is there a black person here? Do you

1243
00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:36,399
Speaker 6: have a question. Yeah, is there a black person here?

1244
00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:36,879
Speaker 3: Chit?

1245
00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:37,880
Speaker 4: Why are you asking that?

1246
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:40,560
Speaker 6: Jenna said there was one in here? Can to check

1247
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:43,560
Speaker 6: there's a white person here too. I don't need one

1248
00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:43,920
Speaker 6: of those.

1249
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:46,239
Speaker 3: Chit, Please stop what you're doing.

1250
00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:48,320
Speaker 6: What's the big deal. I'm just trying to find the

1251
00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:50,879
Speaker 6: black person here. Well you found her. Let me set

1252
00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:52,440
Speaker 6: my sparkling down back. Oh here it is.

1253
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:56,120
Speaker 4: Chit. Are you saying, is there a black purse in here?

1254
00:55:57,000 --> 00:56:00,799
Speaker 6: Yeah? Success? I like your haircut, Linda, Thank you, Chit.

1255
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:03,960
Speaker 3: It's so good. Yeah.

1256
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:05,520
Speaker 2: That was the one that got us on it.

1257
00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:07,680
Speaker 3: Oh man, I was like, what is this? It's great?

1258
00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:11,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, a black person here and she's black, And you're like,

1259
00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:13,920
Speaker 2: where is this going? By black person here and he's

1260
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:14,759
Speaker 2: looking for a black purse?

1261
00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:16,480
Speaker 3: Shit.

1262
00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:19,319
Speaker 2: So Jay Renshaw Chit will be on later this week.

1263
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:20,759
Speaker 2: All right, you guys, thank you for listening to the

1264
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:21,879
Speaker 2: Bobby Cast. We will see soon.

1265
00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:25,600
Speaker 7: Thanks for listening to a Bobby Cast production