WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: Players To Watch? 0:00:02.240 --> 0:00:04.800 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:04.840 --> 0:00:16.200 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This He's Talking Cowboys 0:00:16.600 --> 0:00:20.040 Straining live from the Dallas Cowboys World Headquarters at the 0:00:20.120 --> 0:00:31.360 Star in Fris Joe. Here are Mickey Spagnola, Brian Brons, 0:00:31.760 --> 0:00:36.920 Rob Phillips and Bill Jones. What's Up Cowboys Nation? Welcome 0:00:36.960 --> 0:00:43.280 into Talking Cowboys Offseason Edition almost Rookie Minicamp Edition. Rob 0:00:43.320 --> 0:00:46.600 Phillips in the host chair for Bill Jones. He's a 0:00:46.600 --> 0:00:49.920 little busy tonight at a Game seven, covering a game 0:00:50.040 --> 0:00:53.400 seven up in Saint Louis Stars and Blues. You know, 0:00:53.440 --> 0:00:55.720 sometimes he gets pulled away from this football stuff and 0:00:55.800 --> 0:00:58.360 he gets to do that by the way he gets 0:00:58.400 --> 0:01:01.840 to get to I don't yeah, uh privilege. He didn't 0:01:01.840 --> 0:01:04.319 seem too excited about doing it. I'd love to go 0:01:04.360 --> 0:01:06.039 see a game seven like that. I've seen a couple 0:01:06.080 --> 0:01:07.840 of games sevens in my day. I guess he wants 0:01:07.880 --> 0:01:10.440 to hang with us. Yeah, maybe that's what it is. Yeah, 0:01:10.440 --> 0:01:13.039 he just doesn't like hockey, and I don't think how 0:01:13.080 --> 0:01:15.200 could you not like it? How can you not love 0:01:15.200 --> 0:01:18.080 a game seven? Right? Mickey's been to a few games 0:01:18.360 --> 0:01:22.320 this year. Mickey Spagnola back from vacation. A short one. 0:01:22.680 --> 0:01:28.240 Welcome back, long weekend, Long weekend. What was that? Is 0:01:28.240 --> 0:01:33.720 that a new drop? Thank you? Ken Kid Garrison next 0:01:33.720 --> 0:01:37.640 door inside the new garrison dropping those drops and Brian 0:01:37.640 --> 0:01:40.959 brought us across the table from me as always, welcome guys. 0:01:41.080 --> 0:01:44.840 We got a big show planned for you. We're in 0:01:44.880 --> 0:01:49.280 this purgatory right now, this middle ground of end of 0:01:49.360 --> 0:01:53.559 draft and trying to get to some on the field stuff. Sure, 0:01:53.640 --> 0:01:57.360 we're almost there. Good luck this weekend. I know right, 0:01:57.400 --> 0:01:59.480 we're not. We're not going to get an actual chick 0:01:59.480 --> 0:02:00.880 a few hands. It's more you're going to see some 0:02:00.880 --> 0:02:03.160 football problem exactly. We're gonna watch some meetings on the 0:02:03.200 --> 0:02:05.120 field when the rookies get in here. I think they 0:02:05.240 --> 0:02:08.760 arrive Thursday, and they'll have a mini camp this weekend, 0:02:08.800 --> 0:02:13.040 Mick where meetings on Friday and Saturday. Yeah, pretty much. 0:02:13.160 --> 0:02:16.120 They did this last year, and you know, in the 0:02:16.160 --> 0:02:18.200 grand scheme of things, it's probably smart to have more 0:02:18.440 --> 0:02:22.440 orientation type style introduction for these guys. And if the 0:02:22.480 --> 0:02:26.760 weather reports are accurate, they'll probably be indoors. Yeah, good 0:02:26.800 --> 0:02:29.440 thing about having indoors. What do we live in Florida lately? 0:02:29.480 --> 0:02:32.320 What's the deal here with all the rain. It's good though, 0:02:32.360 --> 0:02:34.680 because in two months it won't rain a day exactly 0:02:34.720 --> 0:02:36.520 one hundred and three. You know, I think to me 0:02:36.760 --> 0:02:39.960 when you talk about the way they handle these things nowadays, 0:02:40.800 --> 0:02:44.680 I remember going back some of those Valley Ranch days 0:02:44.760 --> 0:02:47.840 when Garrett first kind of started doing this, and were 0:02:47.960 --> 0:02:50.839 there were some guys that just weren't ready for this. Yeah, 0:02:50.960 --> 0:02:54.760 they weren't ready for the constant go, go, go go. 0:02:54.880 --> 0:02:57.720 You know a lot of these kids they do the combine, 0:02:58.320 --> 0:03:01.000 they work out for their pro day, and then they 0:03:01.080 --> 0:03:04.680 get ready for the draft just doing nothing. And so now, 0:03:04.720 --> 0:03:07.280 I mean they're way way, way behind. If some of 0:03:07.280 --> 0:03:09.800 the guys that have been doing these captain's workouts and 0:03:09.840 --> 0:03:12.200 stuff like that, and they've been on a job interview, 0:03:12.600 --> 0:03:16.640 they have, and so I think it's really a smart 0:03:16.760 --> 0:03:20.720 play by by coach Garrett the front office to let 0:03:20.760 --> 0:03:23.399 these guys get some acclamation. Is that the right word? 0:03:23.440 --> 0:03:25.920 I hope I use the right word, but yeah, to 0:03:26.080 --> 0:03:29.440 come in at least you know understand, Okay, where's my locker, 0:03:29.840 --> 0:03:32.800 where's the training room? Where do I eat? Where's the 0:03:32.919 --> 0:03:35.640 meeting room? I mean, you know, these guys when they 0:03:35.640 --> 0:03:37.960 brought him in. Initially there was a lot of throw 0:03:38.000 --> 0:03:41.200 a lot at him and see how they respond. And boy, 0:03:41.200 --> 0:03:43.240 I tell you what, I don't think the I think 0:03:43.280 --> 0:03:47.320 the return on that investment wasn't very good. And I 0:03:47.360 --> 0:03:50.280 think that's where they realized their fault and like, Okay, 0:03:50.320 --> 0:03:52.880 we need to figure this out a better path and 0:03:52.920 --> 0:03:55.360 allow some of these kids to have felt I felt 0:03:55.360 --> 0:03:58.320 like when camp started last year, correct me if I'm wrong. 0:03:58.840 --> 0:04:02.040 You know, the rookie to be better suited for how 0:04:02.160 --> 0:04:04.160 things were going to be. They were able to work 0:04:04.200 --> 0:04:07.480 out beforehand, you know gets, you know, try and catch 0:04:07.560 --> 0:04:10.280 up a little bit and then go about their job 0:04:10.320 --> 0:04:13.240 and trying to make this football team. So I applaud 0:04:13.320 --> 0:04:15.320 them for doing it this way. If I was sitting 0:04:15.320 --> 0:04:18.279 in that chair, I would be the first guy saying, hey, 0:04:18.320 --> 0:04:20.839 well let's think about what we're doing here. Boys. It's 0:04:20.880 --> 0:04:24.359 probably twenty years too late. The way they used to 0:04:24.360 --> 0:04:26.159 work them out. You think about it, and it used 0:04:26.160 --> 0:04:30.080 to be you got drafted Thursday, Friday, Saturday, and by 0:04:30.160 --> 0:04:33.440 Thursday you were here yea, and Friday you were going 0:04:33.480 --> 0:04:38.039 through a full football workout. Friday, Saturday Sunday, no pads. 0:04:38.160 --> 0:04:41.719 You put a helmet on, and guys were getting hurt 0:04:42.200 --> 0:04:43.919 and all of a sudden, oh, they're not ready for 0:04:43.960 --> 0:04:46.960 training camp. And the story of the day on Friday 0:04:47.040 --> 0:04:50.880 would be after they ran them. Okay, who got sick? 0:04:51.960 --> 0:04:54.479 Ban Yeah, Jess Bryant got says Bryant got sick. He's 0:04:54.480 --> 0:04:57.080 not in shape. Well, yeah, surprise, because a lot of 0:04:57.120 --> 0:05:00.920 times there's also guys you draft from northern climate come 0:05:00.960 --> 0:05:03.719 down here and it's hot and it's ninety's. They don't 0:05:03.720 --> 0:05:06.440 have enough bodies to run the drills, that's the thing. 0:05:06.480 --> 0:05:09.359 And then you got coaches who haven't haven't coached anything 0:05:09.480 --> 0:05:12.719 since well this staff since the playoffs, So you get 0:05:12.720 --> 0:05:16.560 coaches that are anxious to be on the field and hustle, hustle, hustle. Move, 0:05:16.640 --> 0:05:19.920 let's faster, faster, move, you know, and then now you know, yeah, 0:05:19.960 --> 0:05:23.080 you're evaluating. But man, its just it was really I 0:05:23.080 --> 0:05:25.760 think it's set the kids back. I think it. You know, 0:05:25.839 --> 0:05:29.040 if you again get them acclimated to what you want 0:05:29.080 --> 0:05:30.520 them to do, if you want to play with the 0:05:30.560 --> 0:05:32.600 tempo and practice, Okay, this is what we're gonna do. 0:05:32.640 --> 0:05:34.839 These are the drills we're gonna do. At least when 0:05:34.839 --> 0:05:37.760 the when the veteran guys come on board. They won't 0:05:37.760 --> 0:05:40.680 be just totally out of place. They'll be able to 0:05:40.760 --> 0:05:44.040 kind of, you know, follow Jason Witton, or follow you know, 0:05:44.240 --> 0:05:48.320 Travis Frederick, or follow Ezekiel Elliott. You know, those the 0:05:48.400 --> 0:05:50.320 things that will help these kids to kind of have 0:05:50.320 --> 0:05:53.920 an understanding what the expectations are for him without being behind. 0:05:54.000 --> 0:05:56.160 You don't want to get a kid hurt in one 0:05:56.200 --> 0:05:58.440 of these three day practices and all of a sudden 0:05:58.480 --> 0:06:00.400 he doesn't he's not able to work out for six 0:06:00.440 --> 0:06:02.880 weeks because of a hamstring injury, right you know, And 0:06:02.960 --> 0:06:05.920 we know how cautious these guys can be in rightfully, so, 0:06:05.920 --> 0:06:08.159 so give these kids a chance to put their best 0:06:08.160 --> 0:06:10.240 foot forward. I think the last couple of years that 0:06:10.240 --> 0:06:12.640 they've done this, we've seen that be the kicks. Plus, 0:06:12.680 --> 0:06:15.720 they didn't have enough to play football anyway, so you 0:06:15.839 --> 0:06:18.599 had to bring it on a bunch of scrappies to 0:06:19.080 --> 0:06:23.400 get on workouts to have enough to have eleven on eleven. Yeah, 0:06:23.400 --> 0:06:25.120 that's the other thing about this. They don't they won't 0:06:25.120 --> 0:06:29.000 bring in tryout guys here. They'll bring in their class 0:06:29.320 --> 0:06:32.240 right rookie free agents that they've agreed to terms with 0:06:32.240 --> 0:06:35.800 will sign and then their draft class and correct me 0:06:35.839 --> 0:06:38.159 if I'm wrong. They used to have this camp and 0:06:38.200 --> 0:06:40.479 then guys, the rookies would have to go back and 0:06:40.520 --> 0:06:42.800 then come back here. I think they be here till 0:06:42.880 --> 0:06:46.800 May fifteenth. So now they can have this camp stick around. 0:06:47.040 --> 0:06:49.440 They get the foundation for really also the strength and 0:06:49.520 --> 0:06:53.200 conditioning program, how they go about that right, and then 0:06:53.279 --> 0:06:55.560 like you said, brian Ota start up in a couple 0:06:55.560 --> 0:06:57.000 of weeks and the terns will be you know. And 0:06:57.000 --> 0:06:59.120 the other thing is is those guys didn't know how 0:06:59.160 --> 0:07:02.840 to practice without pads on, so they played like they 0:07:02.880 --> 0:07:05.680 had pads on, and they started getting hurt. Guys are 0:07:05.680 --> 0:07:08.880 spraying their shoulders because they're diving for balls, or they're 0:07:08.920 --> 0:07:12.160 getting going up and contesting passes falling to the ground. 0:07:12.600 --> 0:07:16.640 The trainers hated it absolutely, and even the OTAs are 0:07:16.760 --> 0:07:20.400 kind of sketchy sometimes too, with the contact that involves. 0:07:20.440 --> 0:07:24.360 You know, we watched last week two weeks ago, the 0:07:24.560 --> 0:07:28.440 touch football or flag football whatever tournament they had out here. 0:07:29.120 --> 0:07:31.600 Those guys were wearing helmets. Now, yeah, that's sort of 0:07:31.680 --> 0:07:34.080 helmets kind of a new thing, like soft helmets, like 0:07:34.280 --> 0:07:38.000 water polo helmets. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean yeah, because 0:07:38.000 --> 0:07:41.120 you're gonna run into each other. It's gonna happen. So, yeah, 0:07:41.560 --> 0:07:44.440 this is the smartest thing they've ever done. Basically have 0:07:44.600 --> 0:07:47.640 meetings on the field and do walkthroughs. It's a good 0:07:47.680 --> 0:07:50.360 group of guys. You know, we had a show since 0:07:50.400 --> 0:07:53.560 they've announced the group of guys, the undrafted guys. Yeah, 0:07:53.840 --> 0:07:55.040 and you if you got to look at the whole 0:07:55.040 --> 0:07:57.520 thing too, not just the class, exactly the guys that 0:07:57.520 --> 0:08:00.120 they're going to bring in here off the street. Yeah. 0:08:00.160 --> 0:08:02.920 I was really impressing on Dallas Cowboys dot com. I've 0:08:02.920 --> 0:08:06.400 been writing reports about these kids that were undrafted, and 0:08:06.440 --> 0:08:09.440 I you know, there's gonna be some very competitive guys. 0:08:09.520 --> 0:08:11.520 Are not only guys that are gonna try and get 0:08:11.600 --> 0:08:15.200 roster spots, but those practice squad spots are very competitive too, 0:08:15.520 --> 0:08:17.680 because you have guys that are currently on the roster 0:08:17.760 --> 0:08:20.880 that still have practice squad eligibility. Ken one of these 0:08:21.880 --> 0:08:25.200 you know, undrafted free agents make a roster, make the 0:08:25.280 --> 0:08:28.240 fifty three. We've seen that happen before here. It's something 0:08:28.480 --> 0:08:31.840 quite common. But you also with those practice squad spots 0:08:31.840 --> 0:08:34.640 are very very valuable as well. So not only you're 0:08:34.679 --> 0:08:36.640 playing for a couple of different things, but you're also 0:08:36.800 --> 0:08:40.319 potentially playing for another job somewhere else, and hopefully you 0:08:40.440 --> 0:08:42.240 keep the right guys. When it's all that said and 0:08:42.240 --> 0:08:44.800 done well. Stephen Jones said it after the draft guys 0:08:44.840 --> 0:08:47.800 that this might be one of the most competitive camps 0:08:47.800 --> 0:08:50.440 he's seen in a lot of years. And when you 0:08:50.440 --> 0:08:53.040 look at the roster, that's because they didn't have a 0:08:53.080 --> 0:08:55.760 ton of turnover in free agency this year. Now next year, 0:08:55.800 --> 0:08:57.960 they got a lot of decisions to make, and on 0:08:58.000 --> 0:09:00.120 top of that, they covered themselves in free agent and 0:09:00.160 --> 0:09:03.560 see and added some good young players. Right, there's a 0:09:03.600 --> 0:09:05.839 lot of competition at a lot of spots, and we're 0:09:05.840 --> 0:09:08.360 going to talk about that too, maybe naming some guys 0:09:08.400 --> 0:09:11.080 that they're to step up here. They took fifteen guys 0:09:11.120 --> 0:09:14.040 off their draft board. If you think about it, you know, 0:09:14.080 --> 0:09:17.959 and then that's as rare as it gets. I mean, 0:09:18.040 --> 0:09:19.720 I'm just trying to think of a number, and I 0:09:19.800 --> 0:09:21.840 know this is again I give Chris Hall. Will We 0:09:21.840 --> 0:09:24.360 had Will mcclan the Draft show last week, and I 0:09:24.440 --> 0:09:27.200 gave Chris Hall and that staff a lot of credit 0:09:27.360 --> 0:09:30.199 for how they set their board up. Will even offered 0:09:30.200 --> 0:09:31.959 a little bit of insight if you didn't get a 0:09:32.000 --> 0:09:33.640 chance to hear the Draft show with Will, and I 0:09:33.760 --> 0:09:35.400 encourage you to go back and listen to it. We 0:09:35.440 --> 0:09:38.439 have a podcasted for you that was great. But Will Thursday, 0:09:38.559 --> 0:09:41.120 Thank you. Will was talking about though, that they have 0:09:41.160 --> 0:09:44.560 a meeting before the draft, the actual draft, and sit 0:09:44.600 --> 0:09:47.520 down and give priority to their six and seventh round guys. 0:09:47.960 --> 0:09:50.560 So and that's a smart thing to do because even 0:09:50.559 --> 0:09:52.680 if you know, you say, okay, what order would we 0:09:52.760 --> 0:09:56.960 take these guys, say you have forty six seventh round 0:09:56.960 --> 0:09:59.400 guys on your board. As they start coming off, okay, 0:09:59.440 --> 0:10:03.800 maybe we'll down to ten, okay, and what priority would 0:10:03.920 --> 0:10:05.960 do we need to go after these guys? If those 0:10:05.960 --> 0:10:09.600 guys become available, and they they hammered that and that, 0:10:09.720 --> 0:10:11.840 and then good for them. I mean, they got a 0:10:11.840 --> 0:10:14.280 couple of guys off their board. And talking to some 0:10:14.320 --> 0:10:17.000 folks that you know, that had that had high grades, 0:10:17.040 --> 0:10:19.400 that had you know, fourth round grades, fifth round grades 0:10:19.400 --> 0:10:22.000 on their board, if you're pulling a guy, you're pulling 0:10:22.040 --> 0:10:25.600 players off your board that have fourth round grades. And 0:10:25.640 --> 0:10:29.280 I'm talking about Mitch Hyatt, the tackle from Clemson, and 0:10:29.520 --> 0:10:31.600 talking to people around the league, they seem to think 0:10:31.640 --> 0:10:33.920 that it was just a fact that maybe that Mitch 0:10:33.960 --> 0:10:36.920 Hyatt his first year at Clemson was what he was, 0:10:37.000 --> 0:10:38.640 and then his second year he was the same. The 0:10:38.679 --> 0:10:39.960 third year was kind of the same. He was an 0:10:39.960 --> 0:10:42.800 All American player, but there was never that strength, that 0:10:42.920 --> 0:10:44.800 strength improvement. I mean, I think there are a lot 0:10:44.840 --> 0:10:46.520 of people the guys I were talking about, said, hey, 0:10:46.559 --> 0:10:49.360 this guy deserved to be drafted, considering who was drafted 0:10:49.400 --> 0:10:51.920 by some of the other you know, they sue falls 0:10:52.080 --> 0:10:54.920 had a player drafted, no offense to that kid. But 0:10:54.960 --> 0:10:57.959 Mitch Hyatt is a better He's played in national championship games, 0:10:58.000 --> 0:11:00.560 big time football games. For them to out and get 0:11:00.600 --> 0:11:04.000 guys like that, you know, as as undrafted free agents 0:11:04.000 --> 0:11:06.520 that have fourth round grades on their board, those are 0:11:06.679 --> 0:11:09.040 huge gets. You can't you know, that's just that's just 0:11:09.320 --> 0:11:12.920 quality depth right there. What's on average, like from your experience, 0:11:13.000 --> 0:11:15.520 how many guys on your board if would you get 0:11:15.559 --> 0:11:18.280 in a draft, you might get three, you might get 0:11:18.280 --> 0:11:21.720 three or four at best. I mean to get to 0:11:21.840 --> 0:11:25.040 get to get seven out of that drafted, yeah, to 0:11:25.040 --> 0:11:27.800 get but to get the quality, to get the quality 0:11:27.800 --> 0:11:31.480 of what you're talking about, though, again, fourth fifth round guys, 0:11:31.800 --> 0:11:35.880 that that's kind of an unheard of thing. To have happened. Now, either, 0:11:36.000 --> 0:11:37.559 like I said on the Draft show and Will was 0:11:37.600 --> 0:11:39.880 sitting right there, either they're gonna be really right or 0:11:39.920 --> 0:11:41.760 they're gonna be really wrong. We'll see how it all 0:11:41.800 --> 0:11:44.600 plays out, but I'm going to take my chances. If 0:11:44.640 --> 0:11:46.880 I'm getting guys off my draft board to come in 0:11:46.880 --> 0:11:50.400 here as free agents to potentially making this football team 0:11:50.440 --> 0:11:53.040 or at least filling out my practice squad the right way. 0:11:53.080 --> 0:11:58.280 That means they dropped a lot. Yeah, the players, Yeah, yeah, 0:11:58.320 --> 0:12:00.760 you know. It was a funny draft in that way. 0:12:00.800 --> 0:12:03.120 It was funny. That was like there were some names 0:12:03.160 --> 0:12:06.640 that were taken at spots that I didn't feel like that, 0:12:07.040 --> 0:12:09.520 you know. And again this is they don't care, and 0:12:09.520 --> 0:12:11.400 I'm not I'm gonna stop. I'm talking about just not them. 0:12:11.640 --> 0:12:15.720 The league doesn't care what my board or Danes board 0:12:15.800 --> 0:12:18.920 or Jeff Cavanaugh's board looks like. But if you just 0:12:19.000 --> 0:12:22.640 evaluate where they're at, you know, and where guys were taking, 0:12:22.679 --> 0:12:24.880 you're sitting there thinking that might have been a little 0:12:24.880 --> 0:12:27.240 early for that guy. Oh that guy was drafted there, 0:12:27.400 --> 0:12:29.679 or oh this guy was not drafted, he was drafted late. 0:12:29.679 --> 0:12:32.760 Oh that guy wasn't drafted at all. So everybody. There 0:12:32.800 --> 0:12:35.760 was a there was a wide wide mix. I was 0:12:35.760 --> 0:12:39.760 talking to you, my friend Steve Sabo in Atlanta about this, 0:12:39.840 --> 0:12:41.680 and you know, he was telling me, he goes, you know, 0:12:41.679 --> 0:12:45.280 Atlanta took them a Garry Kid the offensive tackle from Washington, 0:12:45.800 --> 0:12:47.319 And I said, did you feel like that was a 0:12:47.360 --> 0:12:49.160 little early? And he said, did you see the way 0:12:49.200 --> 0:12:51.800 the board was falling? Did you see what was happening 0:12:51.880 --> 0:12:54.719 to the offensive tackles when it got to us or 0:12:54.800 --> 0:12:56.719 how you know, we said, we either got to go 0:12:56.800 --> 0:12:58.640 get an offensive tackle or we're not going to get 0:12:58.640 --> 0:13:01.400 one at all. And so teams were probably thinking that 0:13:01.480 --> 0:13:04.000 a little bit. And you know, maybe some guys weren't 0:13:04.040 --> 0:13:06.320 in exactly the wheelhouse of some of the teams, and 0:13:06.360 --> 0:13:08.520 that's why the Cowboys were able to get a guy 0:13:08.880 --> 0:13:11.480 like Brendon Knight, you know, and Derek Pooney. You know, 0:13:11.520 --> 0:13:13.120 these are a couple of guys that I kind of 0:13:13.160 --> 0:13:15.840 watched to go along with Mitch Hyatt, that I really 0:13:15.920 --> 0:13:18.679 really liked. You know, Larry Allen Junior nice. You know, 0:13:18.920 --> 0:13:21.360 Larry Allen Junior is winning right now. He you know, 0:13:21.400 --> 0:13:23.760 whether he makes his team or not, he's winning. He's 0:13:23.760 --> 0:13:26.400 a Harvard grad, you know, that he's winning and like 0:13:26.600 --> 0:13:28.719 doing Okay, he's doing all right, So you know, I mean, 0:13:28.800 --> 0:13:31.560 but those when you add guys like that, Chris Westery 0:13:31.679 --> 0:13:32.920 was a guy. You know, this is gonna be the 0:13:32.920 --> 0:13:36.000 big experiment of the six four corner. You know that 0:13:36.120 --> 0:13:38.560 this is the kid that's gonna look impressive when he's 0:13:38.559 --> 0:13:41.079 standing out there and Mickey's interviewing him, He's gonna have 0:13:41.120 --> 0:13:42.960 to get his little box to stand up and talk 0:13:42.960 --> 0:13:45.800 to him. You know that's gonna be That's gonna be 0:13:46.040 --> 0:13:49.640 impressive to watch this kid play, because that's the test case. 0:13:49.800 --> 0:13:53.240 Kenna six four, six four and a half corner have 0:13:53.480 --> 0:13:57.040 some success in the National Football League. You know that's 0:13:56.800 --> 0:13:59.200 that's that's gonna be the test And even the guys 0:13:59.240 --> 0:14:02.680 that they draft. I talked to Jordan Lewis Sunday night 0:14:02.840 --> 0:14:05.880 at Taste of the Cowboys benefiting North Texas Food Bank 0:14:05.960 --> 0:14:07.920 is a great event they do fifteen years in a row. 0:14:09.440 --> 0:14:12.000 He went to high school with Mike Webber, and I 0:14:12.040 --> 0:14:13.880 think the first thing Mike told him on the phone 0:14:14.000 --> 0:14:16.760 was I should have been drafted higher man. Yeah, you know, 0:14:17.000 --> 0:14:19.600 third round grade I think the Cowboys had. Yeah, he 0:14:19.680 --> 0:14:22.280 drops to the seventh they've already drafted a running back, 0:14:22.320 --> 0:14:26.000 but they're like, hey, that whole blinking light thing, right, Yeah, 0:14:26.040 --> 0:14:29.480 but he serves a different purpose than Tony Poller. He does, 0:14:29.920 --> 0:14:31.920 and so but I don't know, a lot of times 0:14:32.000 --> 0:14:34.400 it's priorities. Teams have priorities what they want and what 0:14:34.480 --> 0:14:37.400 they don't. And as Brian said, you know we talked 0:14:37.480 --> 0:14:40.960 last week about Tristan Hill. Yeah, it's like, well, you 0:14:41.000 --> 0:14:44.160 could have got him in the third round. Well maybe not. No, 0:14:44.320 --> 0:14:47.440 that that was something because there were no more, no more. 0:14:48.280 --> 0:14:51.520 And I said the Latin the next kind of three 0:14:51.600 --> 0:14:55.880 technique technique defensive tackle went like at one hundred and 0:14:55.920 --> 0:14:58.800 twenty five, right, it didn't stretch. So if somebody need 0:14:58.880 --> 0:15:00.800 one of those, they were gonna g them, right. Yeah. 0:15:01.000 --> 0:15:02.520 You weren't going to sit there and go, oh I 0:15:02.520 --> 0:15:04.920 can oh they get fancy. That was another thing that 0:15:05.000 --> 0:15:07.080 guys around the league were talking about, because asked him 0:15:07.080 --> 0:15:08.880 about Hill in the assessment, and the first thing that 0:15:08.880 --> 0:15:11.920 everybody talked about was, well, you know, the coaching change 0:15:11.920 --> 0:15:14.320 probably didn't do him any good. And you know, but 0:15:14.360 --> 0:15:17.080 he's a quality player, he's an outstanding player. He should 0:15:17.080 --> 0:15:19.080 have probably been drafted, you know, a lot higher than 0:15:19.120 --> 0:15:22.520 where he was and so you know, but that's that's 0:15:22.560 --> 0:15:25.240 where you had to go once you know, they made 0:15:25.240 --> 0:15:27.880 the determination and we'll look at this in the history 0:15:27.880 --> 0:15:32.680 of you know, the guys like Brian broad Us were saying, oh, safety, safety, safety, safety, 0:15:32.720 --> 0:15:35.360 We'll see all those safeties were on the board. But 0:15:35.440 --> 0:15:38.440 they they felt like though in talking to Will again 0:15:38.480 --> 0:15:40.760 on that show, that he felt like they had they 0:15:40.760 --> 0:15:42.720 had to make that pick. They felt like they did 0:15:42.800 --> 0:15:45.680 the leg work on Hill. They felt like that they 0:15:45.720 --> 0:15:49.280 know Rod Marinelli and his relationship with the player, him 0:15:49.320 --> 0:15:52.000 going to run the work out, his relationship with Scott 0:15:52.040 --> 0:15:55.320 Frost who's now in Nebraska, who was Tristan Hill's coach. 0:15:55.600 --> 0:15:57.440 You know, there's not a lot of information coming out 0:15:57.440 --> 0:16:00.360 of Central Florida now it's becoming a bad visit. And 0:16:00.440 --> 0:16:03.240 so you know, they they they had the right line 0:16:03.240 --> 0:16:06.400 of questioning for folks that they could get information for 0:16:06.480 --> 0:16:10.480 and that's why you make that pick. So you mentioned 0:16:10.520 --> 0:16:14.960 the food bank, Yeah, what was the big story, Rob, Well, 0:16:14.960 --> 0:16:16.840 you didn't catch that news because you were coming back 0:16:16.840 --> 0:16:21.160 what from it was not on my website when I 0:16:21.240 --> 0:16:24.440 pulled up Dallas Cowboys gun Well, there was no headline 0:16:24.520 --> 0:16:26.600 it was there, all right? Was there? The big story 0:16:26.840 --> 0:16:28.760 came out of it was never raised money for the 0:16:28.760 --> 0:16:32.400 food bank. They raised a lot of money for Did 0:16:32.400 --> 0:16:35.000 you eat? I did? I ate? A lot of different 0:16:35.000 --> 0:16:38.320 stations man made then it's like your wedding. I just 0:16:38.440 --> 0:16:39.920 kind of walked around and ate a lot of food. 0:16:39.920 --> 0:16:42.320 I never saw you at the buffet table and the 0:16:42.360 --> 0:16:47.760 bar and the and the bar too. North Texas Food 0:16:47.760 --> 0:16:50.600 bab was a great event. Uh, DeMarcus ware probably was 0:16:50.680 --> 0:16:52.800 the top story that came out of it. Now he 0:16:52.880 --> 0:16:55.800 was one of the hosts. Yes, okay. A lot of 0:16:55.840 --> 0:16:58.960 caberty cowboys people there. Yeah, yeah, a former players, a 0:16:58.960 --> 0:17:02.480 lot of alumni. Um. He wants to come back in 0:17:02.560 --> 0:17:05.199 a consultant role, and they talked with him about that 0:17:05.240 --> 0:17:07.960 about a year ago, year or two ago, and he 0:17:08.040 --> 0:17:10.200 wound up doing pretty much the same thing with Denver 0:17:10.320 --> 0:17:13.320 last year. Out of contract with Denver. Right out of 0:17:13.440 --> 0:17:15.960 contract with Denver. Would like to come in two three 0:17:16.000 --> 0:17:19.400 days a week and work with the pass rushers. Now, 0:17:19.480 --> 0:17:21.879 Jason Garrett said, we'd love him, We'd love to have him. 0:17:21.880 --> 0:17:24.360 It's got to kind of work out for both sides. Obviously, 0:17:24.720 --> 0:17:27.920 DeMarcus has things he's busy with two What do you 0:17:27.960 --> 0:17:30.919 think about that? That's my goal in life, to be 0:17:30.960 --> 0:17:36.040 a consultant, like a pigeon, come in and everything two 0:17:36.160 --> 0:17:39.240 or three days a week, not be held responsible for 0:17:39.320 --> 0:17:41.840 witness and loss. That's exactly your pigeon, come in, poop 0:17:41.880 --> 0:17:44.280 on everything, and fly away. He wanted to do it. 0:17:44.400 --> 0:17:46.520 He was sort of doing it in the offseason last 0:17:46.560 --> 0:17:49.119 year before Denver convinced him to go out there and 0:17:49.160 --> 0:17:52.040 do it. He's come by before. Yeah, yeah, I don't 0:17:52.040 --> 0:17:55.920 know if that bumps Charles Haley out of his consultant role. 0:17:56.320 --> 0:17:59.720 Charles does it for food. Yeah, Charles does the way 0:17:59.760 --> 0:18:03.320 back for food. Charles will coach for food. Yeah. I 0:18:03.720 --> 0:18:06.359 mean he can't hurt, right, it can't have another have 0:18:06.440 --> 0:18:09.400 another voice out there. Can I take the other approach? Then? Yeah? 0:18:09.440 --> 0:18:11.199 And I appreciate what you guys are saying. I'm not 0:18:11.240 --> 0:18:14.480 trying to be a negative guy here. I feel enough. 0:18:15.080 --> 0:18:17.840 It's an important year for this football team, especially for 0:18:17.880 --> 0:18:21.080 the coaches who their head coach is on a year deal. 0:18:21.760 --> 0:18:25.320 I understand DeMarcus. I appreciate him. He was one of 0:18:25.359 --> 0:18:29.200 the best players by far when my last draft. Thank god, 0:18:29.240 --> 0:18:32.880 Bill mall with it. Jerry Jones and Steven Jones and everybody, 0:18:32.880 --> 0:18:34.760 and Larry Lace and those guys all kind of pushed 0:18:34.760 --> 0:18:36.720 it that way because it worked out well. Might be 0:18:36.720 --> 0:18:39.080 a first ballot Hall of Famer, absolutely, and so I 0:18:39.119 --> 0:18:43.760 appreciate that about the player. If if DeMarcus Ware wants 0:18:43.760 --> 0:18:46.720 to coach, go be a coach. Don't be a consultant guy, 0:18:46.880 --> 0:18:48.399 you know, go be a coach. Go try and be 0:18:48.440 --> 0:18:50.280 a coach. If you know Jason Went and we've talked 0:18:50.280 --> 0:18:52.080 about him, go, you know he wants to go be 0:18:52.119 --> 0:18:54.919 a coach, go do that. If I was, if I 0:18:55.000 --> 0:18:57.639 was somebody on staff here, I appreciate what again, when 0:18:57.680 --> 0:19:00.440 he's trying to do but this, if you to pull 0:19:00.480 --> 0:19:03.320 this off, this has to be everybody on the right page. 0:19:03.359 --> 0:19:05.520 I think you have very capable coaches here with Rod 0:19:05.600 --> 0:19:09.200 Marinelli and Leon let you know, they're even working Andre 0:19:09.280 --> 0:19:12.360 Girard a little bit as a as a defensive line coach, 0:19:12.400 --> 0:19:14.840 which is really kind of neat for him because he 0:19:14.880 --> 0:19:17.520 thinks about it from an offensive lineman perspective to try 0:19:17.560 --> 0:19:20.399 and help these guys. So if it's if it's something 0:19:20.440 --> 0:19:25.360 where it's affecting the coaches who you have in your 0:19:25.400 --> 0:19:31.520 contract to do then then that that would bother me. 0:19:31.720 --> 0:19:35.320 I trust me, I appreciate the player, but if I think, 0:19:35.359 --> 0:19:37.920 if I'm on the coaching staff, I want to kind 0:19:37.960 --> 0:19:41.080 of keep things as tight and close and not have 0:19:41.160 --> 0:19:44.040 a bunch of different opinions, especially when you've got some 0:19:44.119 --> 0:19:46.200 young guys here that you might you know, you might 0:19:46.280 --> 0:19:49.200 want to say, Okay, we need to coach them this way. 0:19:49.200 --> 0:19:51.679 They don't need to hear something else, and you know, 0:19:51.720 --> 0:19:54.159 maybe the message. If the message is all the same, 0:19:55.040 --> 0:19:58.320 then it works. If the message turns into well, don't 0:19:58.400 --> 0:20:00.639 don't do that with your hands, don't do that with 0:20:00.680 --> 0:20:03.280