1 00:00:02,240 --> 00:00:04,800 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This He's Talking Cowboys 3 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 1: Straining live from the Dallas Cowboys World Headquarters at the 4 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 1: Star in Fris Joe. Here are Mickey Spagnola, Brian Brons, 5 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:36,920 Speaker 1: Rob Phillips and Bill Jones. What's Up Cowboys Nation? Welcome 6 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:43,280 Speaker 1: into Talking Cowboys Offseason Edition almost Rookie Minicamp Edition. Rob 7 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 1: Phillips in the host chair for Bill Jones. He's a 8 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:49,920 Speaker 1: little busy tonight at a Game seven, covering a game 9 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 1: seven up in Saint Louis Stars and Blues. You know, 10 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 1: sometimes he gets pulled away from this football stuff and 11 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 1: he gets to do that by the way he gets 12 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 1: to get to I don't yeah, uh privilege. He didn't 13 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:04,319 Speaker 1: seem too excited about doing it. I'd love to go 14 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:06,039 Speaker 1: see a game seven like that. I've seen a couple 15 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 1: of games sevens in my day. I guess he wants 16 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 1: to hang with us. Yeah, maybe that's what it is. Yeah, 17 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:13,039 Speaker 1: he just doesn't like hockey, and I don't think how 18 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 1: could you not like it? How can you not love 19 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 1: a game seven? Right? Mickey's been to a few games 20 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:22,320 Speaker 1: this year. Mickey Spagnola back from vacation. A short one. 21 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 1: Welcome back, long weekend, Long weekend. What was that? Is 22 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 1: that a new drop? Thank you? Ken Kid Garrison next 23 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 1: door inside the new garrison dropping those drops and Brian 24 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:40,959 Speaker 1: brought us across the table from me as always, welcome guys. 25 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 1: We got a big show planned for you. We're in 26 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 1: this purgatory right now, this middle ground of end of 27 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:53,559 Speaker 1: draft and trying to get to some on the field stuff. Sure, 28 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 1: we're almost there. Good luck this weekend. I know right, 29 00:01:57,400 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 1: we're not. We're not going to get an actual chick 30 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 1: a few hands. It's more you're going to see some 31 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 1: football problem exactly. We're gonna watch some meetings on the 32 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 1: field when the rookies get in here. I think they 33 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 1: arrive Thursday, and they'll have a mini camp this weekend, 34 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 1: Mick where meetings on Friday and Saturday. Yeah, pretty much. 35 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 1: They did this last year, and you know, in the 36 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 1: grand scheme of things, it's probably smart to have more 37 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 1: orientation type style introduction for these guys. And if the 38 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 1: weather reports are accurate, they'll probably be indoors. Yeah, good 39 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 1: thing about having indoors. What do we live in Florida lately? 40 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 1: What's the deal here with all the rain. It's good though, 41 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 1: because in two months it won't rain a day exactly 42 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 1: one hundred and three. You know, I think to me 43 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 1: when you talk about the way they handle these things nowadays, 44 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:44,680 Speaker 1: I remember going back some of those Valley Ranch days 45 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 1: when Garrett first kind of started doing this, and were 46 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:50,839 Speaker 1: there were some guys that just weren't ready for this. Yeah, 47 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 1: they weren't ready for the constant go, go, go go. 48 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 1: You know a lot of these kids they do the combine, 49 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 1: they work out for their pro day, and then they 50 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 1: get ready for the draft just doing nothing. And so now, 51 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 1: I mean they're way way, way behind. If some of 52 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:09,800 Speaker 1: the guys that have been doing these captain's workouts and 53 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 1: stuff like that, and they've been on a job interview, 54 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 1: they have, and so I think it's really a smart 55 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 1: play by by coach Garrett the front office to let 56 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:23,399 Speaker 1: these guys get some acclamation. Is that the right word? 57 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:25,920 Speaker 1: I hope I use the right word, but yeah, to 58 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 1: come in at least you know understand, Okay, where's my locker, 59 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:32,800 Speaker 1: where's the training room? Where do I eat? Where's the 60 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 1: meeting room? I mean, you know, these guys when they 61 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 1: brought him in. Initially there was a lot of throw 62 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 1: a lot at him and see how they respond. And boy, 63 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 1: I tell you what, I don't think the I think 64 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 1: the return on that investment wasn't very good. And I 65 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 1: think that's where they realized their fault and like, Okay, 66 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 1: we need to figure this out a better path and 67 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 1: allow some of these kids to have felt I felt 68 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 1: like when camp started last year, correct me if I'm wrong. 69 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 1: You know, the rookie to be better suited for how 70 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 1: things were going to be. They were able to work 71 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 1: out beforehand, you know gets, you know, try and catch 72 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 1: up a little bit and then go about their job 73 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 1: and trying to make this football team. So I applaud 74 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 1: them for doing it this way. If I was sitting 75 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:18,279 Speaker 1: in that chair, I would be the first guy saying, hey, 76 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:20,839 Speaker 1: well let's think about what we're doing here. Boys. It's 77 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:24,359 Speaker 1: probably twenty years too late. The way they used to 78 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:26,159 Speaker 1: work them out. You think about it, and it used 79 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 1: to be you got drafted Thursday, Friday, Saturday, and by 80 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 1: Thursday you were here yea, and Friday you were going 81 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:38,039 Speaker 1: through a full football workout. Friday, Saturday Sunday, no pads. 82 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:41,719 Speaker 1: You put a helmet on, and guys were getting hurt 83 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:43,919 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, oh, they're not ready for 84 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 1: training camp. And the story of the day on Friday 85 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 1: would be after they ran them. Okay, who got sick? 86 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:54,479 Speaker 1: Ban Yeah, Jess Bryant got says Bryant got sick. He's 87 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 1: not in shape. Well, yeah, surprise, because a lot of 88 00:04:57,120 --> 00:05:00,920 Speaker 1: times there's also guys you draft from northern climate come 89 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:03,719 Speaker 1: down here and it's hot and it's ninety's. They don't 90 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 1: have enough bodies to run the drills, that's the thing. 91 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:09,359 Speaker 1: And then you got coaches who haven't haven't coached anything 92 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:12,719 Speaker 1: since well this staff since the playoffs, So you get 93 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 1: coaches that are anxious to be on the field and hustle, hustle, hustle. Move, 94 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 1: let's faster, faster, move, you know, and then now you know, yeah, 95 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 1: you're evaluating. But man, its just it was really I 96 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 1: think it's set the kids back. I think it. You know, 97 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:29,040 Speaker 1: if you again get them acclimated to what you want 98 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 1: them to do, if you want to play with the 99 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:32,600 Speaker 1: tempo and practice, Okay, this is what we're gonna do. 100 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:34,839 Speaker 1: These are the drills we're gonna do. At least when 101 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 1: the when the veteran guys come on board. They won't 102 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 1: be just totally out of place. They'll be able to 103 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:44,040 Speaker 1: kind of, you know, follow Jason Witton, or follow you know, 104 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 1: Travis Frederick, or follow Ezekiel Elliott. You know, those the 105 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 1: things that will help these kids to kind of have 106 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 1: an understanding what the expectations are for him without being behind. 107 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:56,160 Speaker 1: You don't want to get a kid hurt in one 108 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 1: of these three day practices and all of a sudden 109 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 1: he doesn't he's not able to work out for six 110 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 1: weeks because of a hamstring injury, right you know, And 111 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 1: we know how cautious these guys can be in rightfully, so, 112 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:08,159 Speaker 1: so give these kids a chance to put their best 113 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 1: foot forward. I think the last couple of years that 114 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 1: they've done this, we've seen that be the kicks. Plus, 115 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:15,720 Speaker 1: they didn't have enough to play football anyway, so you 116 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:18,599 Speaker 1: had to bring it on a bunch of scrappies to 117 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 1: get on workouts to have enough to have eleven on eleven. Yeah, 118 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 1: that's the other thing about this. They don't they won't 119 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 1: bring in tryout guys here. They'll bring in their class 120 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 1: right rookie free agents that they've agreed to terms with 121 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 1: will sign and then their draft class and correct me 122 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:38,159 Speaker 1: if I'm wrong. They used to have this camp and 123 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:40,479 Speaker 1: then guys, the rookies would have to go back and 124 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 1: then come back here. I think they be here till 125 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 1: May fifteenth. So now they can have this camp stick around. 126 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 1: They get the foundation for really also the strength and 127 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 1: conditioning program, how they go about that right, and then 128 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 1: like you said, brian Ota start up in a couple 129 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 1: of weeks and the terns will be you know. And 130 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 1: the other thing is is those guys didn't know how 131 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:02,840 Speaker 1: to practice without pads on, so they played like they 132 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 1: had pads on, and they started getting hurt. Guys are 133 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 1: spraying their shoulders because they're diving for balls, or they're 134 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 1: getting going up and contesting passes falling to the ground. 135 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 1: The trainers hated it absolutely, and even the OTAs are 136 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 1: kind of sketchy sometimes too, with the contact that involves. 137 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 1: You know, we watched last week two weeks ago, the 138 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 1: touch football or flag football whatever tournament they had out here. 139 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 1: Those guys were wearing helmets. Now, yeah, that's sort of 140 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 1: helmets kind of a new thing, like soft helmets, like 141 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 1: water polo helmets. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean yeah, because 142 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 1: you're gonna run into each other. It's gonna happen. So, yeah, 143 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 1: this is the smartest thing they've ever done. Basically have 144 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 1: meetings on the field and do walkthroughs. It's a good 145 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 1: group of guys. You know, we had a show since 146 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 1: they've announced the group of guys, the undrafted guys. Yeah, 147 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 1: and you if you got to look at the whole 148 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 1: thing too, not just the class, exactly the guys that 149 00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:00,120 Speaker 1: they're going to bring in here off the street. Yeah. 150 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 1: I was really impressing on Dallas Cowboys dot com. I've 151 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 1: been writing reports about these kids that were undrafted, and 152 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 1: I you know, there's gonna be some very competitive guys. 153 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 1: Are not only guys that are gonna try and get 154 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 1: roster spots, but those practice squad spots are very competitive too, 155 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 1: because you have guys that are currently on the roster 156 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 1: that still have practice squad eligibility. Ken one of these 157 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 1: you know, undrafted free agents make a roster, make the 158 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 1: fifty three. We've seen that happen before here. It's something 159 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 1: quite common. But you also with those practice squad spots 160 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 1: are very very valuable as well. So not only you're 161 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 1: playing for a couple of different things, but you're also 162 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:40,319 Speaker 1: potentially playing for another job somewhere else, and hopefully you 163 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 1: keep the right guys. When it's all that said and 164 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 1: done well. Stephen Jones said it after the draft guys 165 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 1: that this might be one of the most competitive camps 166 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:50,440 Speaker 1: he's seen in a lot of years. And when you 167 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 1: look at the roster, that's because they didn't have a 168 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 1: ton of turnover in free agency this year. Now next year, 169 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:57,960 Speaker 1: they got a lot of decisions to make, and on 170 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:00,120 Speaker 1: top of that, they covered themselves in free agent and 171 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 1: see and added some good young players. Right, there's a 172 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:05,839 Speaker 1: lot of competition at a lot of spots, and we're 173 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 1: going to talk about that too, maybe naming some guys 174 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 1: that they're to step up here. They took fifteen guys 175 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 1: off their draft board. If you think about it, you know, 176 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:17,959 Speaker 1: and then that's as rare as it gets. I mean, 177 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 1: I'm just trying to think of a number, and I 178 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 1: know this is again I give Chris Hall. Will We 179 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 1: had Will mcclan the Draft show last week, and I 180 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:27,200 Speaker 1: gave Chris Hall and that staff a lot of credit 181 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:30,199 Speaker 1: for how they set their board up. Will even offered 182 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:31,959 Speaker 1: a little bit of insight if you didn't get a 183 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 1: chance to hear the Draft show with Will, and I 184 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 1: encourage you to go back and listen to it. We 185 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:38,439 Speaker 1: have a podcasted for you that was great. But Will Thursday, 186 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 1: Thank you. Will was talking about though, that they have 187 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:44,560 Speaker 1: a meeting before the draft, the actual draft, and sit 188 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 1: down and give priority to their six and seventh round guys. 189 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:50,560 Speaker 1: So and that's a smart thing to do because even 190 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:52,680 Speaker 1: if you know, you say, okay, what order would we 191 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:56,960 Speaker 1: take these guys, say you have forty six seventh round 192 00:09:56,960 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 1: guys on your board. As they start coming off, okay, 193 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 1: maybe we'll down to ten, okay, and what priority would 194 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:05,960 Speaker 1: do we need to go after these guys? If those 195 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 1: guys become available, and they they hammered that and that, 196 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 1: and then good for them. I mean, they got a 197 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 1: couple of guys off their board. And talking to some 198 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 1: folks that you know, that had that had high grades, 199 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 1: that had you know, fourth round grades, fifth round grades 200 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 1: on their board, if you're pulling a guy, you're pulling 201 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 1: players off your board that have fourth round grades. And 202 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 1: I'm talking about Mitch Hyatt, the tackle from Clemson, and 203 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 1: talking to people around the league, they seem to think 204 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 1: that it was just a fact that maybe that Mitch 205 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 1: Hyatt his first year at Clemson was what he was, 206 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 1: and then his second year he was the same. The 207 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:39,960 Speaker 1: third year was kind of the same. He was an 208 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 1: All American player, but there was never that strength, that 209 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 1: strength improvement. I mean, I think there are a lot 210 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 1: of people the guys I were talking about, said, hey, 211 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 1: this guy deserved to be drafted, considering who was drafted 212 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 1: by some of the other you know, they sue falls 213 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 1: had a player drafted, no offense to that kid. But 214 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:57,959 Speaker 1: Mitch Hyatt is a better He's played in national championship games, 215 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:00,560 Speaker 1: big time football games. For them to out and get 216 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 1: guys like that, you know, as as undrafted free agents 217 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 1: that have fourth round grades on their board, those are 218 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 1: huge gets. You can't you know, that's just that's just 219 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 1: quality depth right there. What's on average, like from your experience, 220 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 1: how many guys on your board if would you get 221 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 1: in a draft, you might get three, you might get 222 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 1: three or four at best. I mean to get to 223 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 1: get to get seven out of that drafted, yeah, to 224 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 1: get but to get the quality, to get the quality 225 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 1: of what you're talking about, though, again, fourth fifth round guys, 226 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 1: that that's kind of an unheard of thing. To have happened. Now, either, 227 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:37,559 Speaker 1: like I said on the Draft show and Will was 228 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 1: sitting right there, either they're gonna be really right or 229 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 1: they're gonna be really wrong. We'll see how it all 230 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 1: plays out, but I'm going to take my chances. If 231 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 1: I'm getting guys off my draft board to come in 232 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 1: here as free agents to potentially making this football team 233 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 1: or at least filling out my practice squad the right way. 234 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 1: That means they dropped a lot. Yeah, the players, Yeah, yeah, 235 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 1: you know. It was a funny draft in that way. 236 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 1: It was funny. That was like there were some names 237 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 1: that were taken at spots that I didn't feel like that, 238 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 1: you know. And again this is they don't care, and 239 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 1: I'm not I'm gonna stop. I'm talking about just not them. 240 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 1: The league doesn't care what my board or Danes board 241 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 1: or Jeff Cavanaugh's board looks like. But if you just 242 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 1: evaluate where they're at, you know, and where guys were taking, 243 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 1: you're sitting there thinking that might have been a little 244 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 1: early for that guy. Oh that guy was drafted there, 245 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:29,679 Speaker 1: or oh this guy was not drafted, he was drafted late. 246 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 1: Oh that guy wasn't drafted at all. So everybody. There 247 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 1: was a there was a wide wide mix. I was 248 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 1: talking to you, my friend Steve Sabo in Atlanta about this, 249 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:41,680 Speaker 1: and you know, he was telling me, he goes, you know, 250 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 1: Atlanta took them a Garry Kid the offensive tackle from Washington, 251 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:47,319 Speaker 1: And I said, did you feel like that was a 252 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 1: little early? And he said, did you see the way 253 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 1: the board was falling? Did you see what was happening 254 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:54,719 Speaker 1: to the offensive tackles when it got to us or 255 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:56,719 Speaker 1: how you know, we said, we either got to go 256 00:12:56,800 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 1: get an offensive tackle or we're not going to get 257 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 1: one at all. And so teams were probably thinking that 258 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 1: a little bit. And you know, maybe some guys weren't 259 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:06,320 Speaker 1: in exactly the wheelhouse of some of the teams, and 260 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 1: that's why the Cowboys were able to get a guy 261 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 1: like Brendon Knight, you know, and Derek Pooney. You know, 262 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 1: these are a couple of guys that I kind of 263 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 1: watched to go along with Mitch Hyatt, that I really 264 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:18,679 Speaker 1: really liked. You know, Larry Allen Junior nice. You know, 265 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 1: Larry Allen Junior is winning right now. He you know, 266 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 1: whether he makes his team or not, he's winning. He's 267 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 1: a Harvard grad, you know, that he's winning and like 268 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:28,719 Speaker 1: doing Okay, he's doing all right, So you know, I mean, 269 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:31,560 Speaker 1: but those when you add guys like that, Chris Westery 270 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 1: was a guy. You know, this is gonna be the 271 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 1: big experiment of the six four corner. You know that 272 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:38,560 Speaker 1: this is the kid that's gonna look impressive when he's 273 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:41,079 Speaker 1: standing out there and Mickey's interviewing him, He's gonna have 274 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:42,960 Speaker 1: to get his little box to stand up and talk 275 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 1: to him. You know that's gonna be That's gonna be 276 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 1: impressive to watch this kid play, because that's the test case. 277 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 1: Kenna six four, six four and a half corner have 278 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 1: some success in the National Football League. You know that's 279 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:59,200 Speaker 1: that's that's gonna be the test And even the guys 280 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:02,680 Speaker 1: that they draft. I talked to Jordan Lewis Sunday night 281 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 1: at Taste of the Cowboys benefiting North Texas Food Bank 282 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 1: is a great event they do fifteen years in a row. 283 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 1: He went to high school with Mike Webber, and I 284 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 1: think the first thing Mike told him on the phone 285 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 1: was I should have been drafted higher man. Yeah, you know, 286 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 1: third round grade I think the Cowboys had. Yeah, he 287 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 1: drops to the seventh they've already drafted a running back, 288 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 1: but they're like, hey, that whole blinking light thing, right, Yeah, 289 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 1: but he serves a different purpose than Tony Poller. He does, 290 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 1: and so but I don't know, a lot of times 291 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 1: it's priorities. Teams have priorities what they want and what 292 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 1: they don't. And as Brian said, you know we talked 293 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 1: last week about Tristan Hill. Yeah, it's like, well, you 294 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 1: could have got him in the third round. Well maybe not. No, 295 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 1: that that was something because there were no more, no more. 296 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 1: And I said the Latin the next kind of three 297 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 1: technique technique defensive tackle went like at one hundred and 298 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 1: twenty five, right, it didn't stretch. So if somebody need 299 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 1: one of those, they were gonna g them, right. Yeah. 300 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 1: You weren't going to sit there and go, oh I 301 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 1: can oh they get fancy. That was another thing that 302 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 1: guys around the league were talking about, because asked him 303 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 1: about Hill in the assessment, and the first thing that 304 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 1: everybody talked about was, well, you know, the coaching change 305 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 1: probably didn't do him any good. And you know, but 306 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 1: he's a quality player, he's an outstanding player. He should 307 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 1: have probably been drafted, you know, a lot higher than 308 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 1: where he was and so you know, but that's that's 309 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 1: where you had to go once you know, they made 310 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 1: the determination and we'll look at this in the history 311 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 1: of you know, the guys like Brian broad Us were saying, oh, safety, safety, safety, safety, 312 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 1: We'll see all those safeties were on the board. But 313 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 1: they they felt like though in talking to Will again 314 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 1: on that show, that he felt like they had they 315 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 1: had to make that pick. They felt like they did 316 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 1: the leg work on Hill. They felt like that they 317 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 1: know Rod Marinelli and his relationship with the player, him 318 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 1: going to run the work out, his relationship with Scott 319 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 1: Frost who's now in Nebraska, who was Tristan Hill's coach. 320 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 1: You know, there's not a lot of information coming out 321 00:15:57,440 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 1: of Central Florida now it's becoming a bad visit. And 322 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 1: so you know, they they they had the right line 323 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 1: of questioning for folks that they could get information for 324 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 1: and that's why you make that pick. So you mentioned 325 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 1: the food bank, Yeah, what was the big story, Rob, Well, 326 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 1: you didn't catch that news because you were coming back 327 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 1: what from it was not on my website when I 328 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 1: pulled up Dallas Cowboys gun Well, there was no headline 329 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 1: it was there, all right? Was there? The big story 330 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 1: came out of it was never raised money for the 331 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 1: food bank. They raised a lot of money for Did 332 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 1: you eat? I did? I ate? A lot of different 333 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 1: stations man made then it's like your wedding. I just 334 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 1: kind of walked around and ate a lot of food. 335 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 1: I never saw you at the buffet table and the 336 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 1: bar and the and the bar too. North Texas Food 337 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 1: bab was a great event. Uh, DeMarcus ware probably was 338 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 1: the top story that came out of it. Now he 339 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 1: was one of the hosts. Yes, okay. A lot of 340 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 1: caberty cowboys people there. Yeah, yeah, a former players, a 341 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 1: lot of alumni. Um. He wants to come back in 342 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:05,199 Speaker 1: a consultant role, and they talked with him about that 343 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 1: about a year ago, year or two ago, and he 344 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:10,200 Speaker 1: wound up doing pretty much the same thing with Denver 345 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 1: last year. Out of contract with Denver. Right out of 346 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 1: contract with Denver. Would like to come in two three 347 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:19,400 Speaker 1: days a week and work with the pass rushers. Now, 348 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:21,879 Speaker 1: Jason Garrett said, we'd love him, We'd love to have him. 349 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:24,360 Speaker 1: It's got to kind of work out for both sides. Obviously, 350 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:27,920 Speaker 1: DeMarcus has things he's busy with two What do you 351 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:30,919 Speaker 1: think about that? That's my goal in life, to be 352 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 1: a consultant, like a pigeon, come in and everything two 353 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 1: or three days a week, not be held responsible for 354 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 1: witness and loss. That's exactly your pigeon, come in, poop 355 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 1: on everything, and fly away. He wanted to do it. 356 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 1: He was sort of doing it in the offseason last 357 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:49,119 Speaker 1: year before Denver convinced him to go out there and 358 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 1: do it. He's come by before. Yeah, yeah, I don't 359 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:55,920 Speaker 1: know if that bumps Charles Haley out of his consultant role. 360 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 1: Charles does it for food. Yeah, Charles does the way 361 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 1: back for food. Charles will coach for food. Yeah. I 362 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:06,359 Speaker 1: mean he can't hurt, right, it can't have another have 363 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:09,400 Speaker 1: another voice out there. Can I take the other approach? Then? Yeah? 364 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:11,199 Speaker 1: And I appreciate what you guys are saying. I'm not 365 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 1: trying to be a negative guy here. I feel enough. 366 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 1: It's an important year for this football team, especially for 367 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 1: the coaches who their head coach is on a year deal. 368 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 1: I understand DeMarcus. I appreciate him. He was one of 369 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:29,200 Speaker 1: the best players by far when my last draft. Thank god, 370 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:32,880 Speaker 1: Bill mall with it. Jerry Jones and Steven Jones and everybody, 371 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 1: and Larry Lace and those guys all kind of pushed 372 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:36,720 Speaker 1: it that way because it worked out well. Might be 373 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 1: a first ballot Hall of Famer, absolutely, and so I 374 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 1: appreciate that about the player. If if DeMarcus Ware wants 375 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:46,720 Speaker 1: to coach, go be a coach. Don't be a consultant guy, 376 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:48,399 Speaker 1: you know, go be a coach. Go try and be 377 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 1: a coach. If you know Jason Went and we've talked 378 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 1: about him, go, you know he wants to go be 379 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:54,919 Speaker 1: a coach, go do that. If I was, if I 380 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:57,639 Speaker 1: was somebody on staff here, I appreciate what again, when 381 00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:00,440 Speaker 1: he's trying to do but this, if you to pull 382 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 1: this off, this has to be everybody on the right page. 383 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 1: I think you have very capable coaches here with Rod 384 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:09,200 Speaker 1: Marinelli and Leon let you know, they're even working Andre 385 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:12,360 Speaker 1: Girard a little bit as a as a defensive line coach, 386 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 1: which is really kind of neat for him because he 387 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 1: thinks about it from an offensive lineman perspective to try 388 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:20,399 Speaker 1: and help these guys. So if it's if it's something 389 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:25,360 Speaker 1: where it's affecting the coaches who you have in your 390 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 1: contract to do then then that that would bother me. 391 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 1: I trust me, I appreciate the player, but if I think, 392 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:37,920 Speaker 1: if I'm on the coaching staff, I want to kind 393 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 1: of keep things as tight and close and not have 394 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 1: a bunch of different opinions, especially when you've got some 395 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:46,200 Speaker 1: young guys here that you might you know, you might 396 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:49,200 Speaker 1: want to say, Okay, we need to coach them this way. 397 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:51,679 Speaker 1: They don't need to hear something else, and you know, 398 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:54,159 Speaker 1: maybe the message. If the message is all the same, 399 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 1: then it works. If the message turns into well, don't 400 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:00,639 Speaker 1: don't do that with your hands, don't do that with 401 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 1: your feet. You know, position when you're coming off, take 402 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:06,159 Speaker 1: this step, you know that makes sure that everything is 403 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 1: going to be aligned. Yeah, I just I just think 404 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:11,440 Speaker 1: this is a really important year for the coaching staff. 405 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 1: If this was a new staff, maybe maybe you maybe 406 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 1: you could pull this off. But a staff that's essentially 407 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 1: needs to have a really good year. I don't need 408 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 1: any outside consultants and distractions and anything else. It despite that, 409 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 1: it's a Hall of Fame player given those kind of adjustments. 410 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:31,879 Speaker 1: So I didn't get to see Jason Garrett say what 411 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:35,200 Speaker 1: he said, but he said the right thing without saying 412 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 1: anything right, like oh, yeah, we want to do this. 413 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 1: He didn't say that right, It was like, yeah, you know, 414 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 1: if both sides can work something out, and you know, 415 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:45,720 Speaker 1: he's a great player, and so I thought it was 416 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 1: kind of a lukewarm response to the possibility. And if 417 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:53,679 Speaker 1: I think back to when Bill was here and he 418 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:56,440 Speaker 1: would bring in some of his former players, that was yeah, 419 00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:58,880 Speaker 1: but those were giant players. Yeah they and they were 420 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 1: giant players. But the assistant coaches, I don't know how 421 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 1: well they took to that. That that's to me, that's 422 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:07,920 Speaker 1: you know I I would look at it this way, Rob, 423 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 1: you know, and we're all we're all trying to be 424 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 1: professional about what we're doing here. Yeah, I would take 425 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 1: offense if some if they if they said, hey, we're 426 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:21,200 Speaker 1: bringing in somebody else to analyze film and do this 427 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:23,879 Speaker 1: just on a part time kind of a basis. I 428 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:26,119 Speaker 1: don't have a problem where if they said, okay, Brian 429 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 1: Mickey is going to evaluate film with you full time, 430 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 1: then I'm okay. But something that could be just as 431 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:37,119 Speaker 1: a consultant or part time, I really don't have I 432 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:39,640 Speaker 1: don't have time for that. I got to focus on 433 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 1: I got to focus on sixteen games. I got to 434 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:43,960 Speaker 1: focus on the best record I can get out of this. 435 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:46,679 Speaker 1: I've got to focus on keeping my job, you know. 436 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:49,680 Speaker 1: And it doesn't work out, and say he's an assistant 437 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 1: for or a consultant for the whole year, well he 438 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:56,360 Speaker 1: just again goes away, and these coaches who are now 439 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:59,359 Speaker 1: and there, they maybe lose their job. I wouldn't want 440 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 1: somebody coming in to my territory and being and being 441 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 1: just on a consultant basis. You hit on it, I 442 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 1: think when you said, and he's welcome anytime, no question. Everybody. 443 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 1: Tremendous person, tremendous player. But I'm just saying if you think, 444 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 1: if you want to think about what the coaches mindset 445 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 1: should be, I would worry about. I think you hit 446 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:21,879 Speaker 1: on it when you said, it's a young team and 447 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 1: you've got to have messages and the techniques and everything 448 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:27,919 Speaker 1: aligned with your vision. That's in any business. You know, 449 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 1: you got it. You gotta have things streamlined and everybody 450 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 1: on the same page. So we'll see what happens there. 451 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 1: Let's take our first break and we come back. 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He is, he's we'd love to have 525 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:01,360 Speaker 1: him on board as a new teammate. Absolutely, really good 526 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 1: player here for a few years. Eight five, five, two 527 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:05,879 Speaker 1: two nine seven is the number if you want to 528 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 1: join the conversation. All right, we teased it coming out. 529 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:11,400 Speaker 1: We've we've gone up and down this roster in the offseason, 530 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:13,240 Speaker 1: and I said it last week. We know more or 531 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 1: less what the bulk of this roster is going to 532 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 1: look like in twenty nineteen. Now the draft is over, 533 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 1: but let's talk about some guys that have something really 534 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:22,639 Speaker 1: on the line this year. I mean something, maybe some 535 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 1: names below the radar that we're gonna be watching coming up. 536 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:29,200 Speaker 1: You got any Brian as as OTA's come up soon? Well, 537 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 1: I think it's really going to be a really important 538 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 1: There's a couple of guys that I've been saying. This 539 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 1: guy's name a lot, just because I know what the 540 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,359 Speaker 1: coaches to feel about him, and I know he was 541 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 1: on the practice squad and he gets opportunity to get reps. 542 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 1: Is Donovan Olumba, you know, and he was on, like 543 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:47,680 Speaker 1: I say, he was on the practice squad the whole 544 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:51,639 Speaker 1: entire year. Here's a kid that's always around the facility, 545 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 1: if you want to say, a guy that's always used 546 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:57,360 Speaker 1: the term and scouting a gym rat. He's always around. 547 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,480 Speaker 1: You always see him. He's you know, when where seems 548 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 1: to be gone, he's hanging out. You know, he'll be 549 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:06,119 Speaker 1: hanging out with Chris Rochard eaton lunch, she a talking. 550 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:09,639 Speaker 1: He's always doing something around the facility. He's a corner 551 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:12,960 Speaker 1: it's got some link to him, He's got some coverability 552 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 1: to him. Him and the Ward kid last year that 553 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 1: they traded to Kansas City, they were going to kind 554 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:19,879 Speaker 1: of be the guys that the young corners that they 555 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,159 Speaker 1: were going to shelf and then see if they can 556 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,399 Speaker 1: get him, you know, get him to this year. So 557 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:28,400 Speaker 1: I'm really excited to see how he's going to play. 558 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 1: A lot of talk about could the Cowboys with corners 559 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:35,920 Speaker 1: possibly contracts up the next two years, could they find somebody, 560 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 1: you know, I mentioned Westery earlier from Kentucky as a 561 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 1: guy that they signed. Well, here's Donovan Alumba again. Another 562 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 1: whole year on the practice squad, got reps with the 563 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 1: first defense at times, and so he might be one 564 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 1: of those guys when we start putting on the pads 565 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 1: out there in Oxnard and one on one coverages and stuff. 566 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:57,800 Speaker 1: Maybe he'll stand up and then get some preseason games 567 00:28:58,120 --> 00:28:59,840 Speaker 1: and then find a way to make this football team 568 00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:01,760 Speaker 1: on the fifty three man roster. I like it. I 569 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,440 Speaker 1: like it, Mick, you're making a list over there. I 570 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 1: am who you got. It's a crowded field at the 571 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 1: wide receiver position, sure is it is? If you look 572 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:16,240 Speaker 1: at what they added in the off season, and if 573 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 1: you're on the fringe there, you better really step up, 574 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:20,959 Speaker 1: you know. And one of the guys they gave an 575 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 1: opportunity to last year when he finally got healthy was 576 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 1: Noah Brown. Right, So if you look at it, you 577 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 1: have Cooper Gallup, Cob Tavon, Austin, Cedric Wilson is coming back. 578 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 1: He spent the whole year on i R. So he's 579 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 1: like a new guy. You have Lance Lenore, who they 580 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:43,440 Speaker 1: kind of put on the roster late and you know 581 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:46,760 Speaker 1: he was able to get in there. And then Noah Brown. 582 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 1: So when you're looking at things, you know, does he 583 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 1: fit in and he's gonna have to show. I would 584 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 1: think that he's more than just a big receiver that 585 00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 1: you put in when you're blocked. You got to be 586 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:07,520 Speaker 1: productive in the passing game. So between Tavon, Lance Leanoor, 587 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 1: and Brown, I think there's gonna be some significant competition 588 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 1: out there with those guys. Bring up another night forget somebody, No, 589 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 1: I think you're good on that. Kyle Quero, Yes, he 590 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 1: was a safety at this time last year Northwestern. And 591 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 1: it's funny because I once again had to watch Northwestern 592 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:30,720 Speaker 1: tape again this year for Nate Hall, the linebacker that 593 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 1: they brought in from Northwestern. So it kind of reminded 594 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:36,560 Speaker 1: me of Kyle Quero. Here's another guy that was again 595 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:43,280 Speaker 1: practice squad the whole entire year and developed some strength developed. 596 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 1: You know, he's he's naturally a big guy. He was 597 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:48,680 Speaker 1: a strong safety at Northwestern and then they moved him 598 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:53,120 Speaker 1: to linebacker. Talking to people during practices about him. He 599 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:57,720 Speaker 1: was one of those guys that caused caused Dak Prescott 600 00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 1: fits because Prescott we try and fit the ball into 601 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,880 Speaker 1: somebody underneath the way. And here's Kyle Quero driving on 602 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,520 Speaker 1: the ball, knocking it down intersect. I mean, you know, 603 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 1: usually scout team guys aren't making plays. Well, nobody told 604 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:13,640 Speaker 1: Kyle Quero that he was making plays and that you know, 605 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:15,239 Speaker 1: it was like, you know, they're probably yelling at him. 606 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:17,240 Speaker 1: I'll get out, you know, don't do that, you know, 607 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:20,160 Speaker 1: And but I think that, you know, with the linebacker 608 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:24,040 Speaker 1: situation the way it is, Mickey breaking news last week 609 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 1: about Sean Lee, which very well, you know that could happen, 610 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:29,720 Speaker 1: you know, but they're looking for a Sam linebacker. This 611 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:33,560 Speaker 1: guy's got some potential to be some Sam linebacker. Traits, 612 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:36,560 Speaker 1: and let's see if the special teams holds up. Let's 613 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:38,520 Speaker 1: see if he could take a guy like Joe Thomas 614 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 1: and put him on the street. You know, he's gonna 615 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 1: these young guys, these alumbas and people like Mickey's mentioned 616 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:45,880 Speaker 1: that some of these young guys are gonna have to 617 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:49,240 Speaker 1: probably put some veteran guys on the street who've had 618 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 1: two or three, uh, you know, years already here and 619 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:55,360 Speaker 1: they're saying, no, what, let's go with a younger, cheaper, 620 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:58,640 Speaker 1: better guy, better player. And so these the names were 621 00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 1: talking about right now, those kinds of guys. And we 622 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:05,560 Speaker 1: mentioned the two running backs they drafted, and so where 623 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:09,200 Speaker 1: does Darius Jackson exactly? You know, and he got an opportunity, 624 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:13,520 Speaker 1: it was okay, I don't know if they were enthralled 625 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 1: by it. He got to play a little bit in 626 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:19,040 Speaker 1: the regular season finale. Giants Yea and Jordan Chun spent 627 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:21,120 Speaker 1: the year on the practice squad. But you bring in 628 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 1: two more running backs and now where did those guys 629 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 1: fit in? So the offseason and early in training camps 630 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:30,840 Speaker 1: gonna be really important for a guy like that if 631 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:33,720 Speaker 1: he's gonna stick around and you know, make this he's 632 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:35,880 Speaker 1: gonna have to bump somebody else off. I got a 633 00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:39,000 Speaker 1: guy Daniel Ross too, Yeah, defensive tackle. I mean they've 634 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:42,520 Speaker 1: added some they've added some bodies inside now and where 635 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:44,720 Speaker 1: it was Read and Ross the law firm, as you 636 00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:47,680 Speaker 1: would say, robs the law firm of Reading Ross, those 637 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:49,880 Speaker 1: those two guys. I watched your show, by the way, 638 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:51,520 Speaker 1: that the day we sought the law firm of Jackson 639 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 1: and Jackson. Yes, and so you know, but that's you know, 640 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,000 Speaker 1: when you have when you're bringing in bodies like that 641 00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:00,400 Speaker 1: and quality bodies that we talked about earlier in the 642 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:03,000 Speaker 1: first segment where they're off their draft board, you know, 643 00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:06,360 Speaker 1: cheaper help. You know, these guys like Ross and you 644 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:08,000 Speaker 1: know they're gonna have to figure out a way to 645 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:10,520 Speaker 1: you know, they've already you know with Read, they've already 646 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:12,920 Speaker 1: moved on from Reid. You know, Ross they brought back. 647 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:15,360 Speaker 1: Let's see if he can fact hold his spot, because 648 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:18,160 Speaker 1: if not, then you know they'll they'll probably move on. 649 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:21,360 Speaker 1: They just that that's just the competition is a lot 650 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:24,760 Speaker 1: better at that spot. That whole defensive line, Mickey, I 651 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:28,360 Speaker 1: think you counted it up. It's like sixteen guys uying 652 00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:30,680 Speaker 1: counting the couple of guys that they're going to bring 653 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:35,360 Speaker 1: in as rookie free agents. Yeah, undrafted vying for. There's 654 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:39,080 Speaker 1: about eight spots they usually keep. Sure, we kept ten 655 00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:43,680 Speaker 1: ten Yeah, last year they kept eight usually active. This 656 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:46,960 Speaker 1: might be the one day. Yeah, that's true. This might 657 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:50,080 Speaker 1: be the one year that I'm actually right about saying that. 658 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:51,959 Speaker 1: You know, when they get down to the cut, they 659 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:53,880 Speaker 1: always say, oh, it's a difficult cut, you know, and 660 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:57,160 Speaker 1: somebody's gonna play somewhere else. Yeah, but you know, teams 661 00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:59,040 Speaker 1: lie to you. Yeah, they lie to you. I mean 662 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:01,560 Speaker 1: I could say it there like two weeks into training 663 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:06,240 Speaker 1: camp and say here here, here, gone, gone gone. You know, 664 00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:08,120 Speaker 1: I can kind of figure things out because there's a 665 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:09,560 Speaker 1: lot of guys on that D line. You know we're 666 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:12,080 Speaker 1: gonna be here. This might be I'll see another position 667 00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:14,839 Speaker 1: to keep an eye on that needs to step it up. 668 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:17,759 Speaker 1: Those two backup quarterbacks, Well that's where I was going. Okay, 669 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:22,600 Speaker 1: I'm sure Making and I were just talking away. No, 670 00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:25,200 Speaker 1: I was gonna that was gonna be my Coney and 671 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:29,600 Speaker 1: I and let y'all go. Because the point to me, 672 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:33,040 Speaker 1: we keep talking all off season about running back and 673 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:36,680 Speaker 1: well what happens if something happens to Zeke. True, why 674 00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:38,960 Speaker 1: aren't we talking about that at quarterback? I know, I 675 00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:41,480 Speaker 1: know Dak looks indestructible. I know he's built like a 676 00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:44,800 Speaker 1: middle linebacker. He hasn't missed a snap due to injury 677 00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,040 Speaker 1: in three seasons, just like Zeke. We're all knocking on 678 00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:50,560 Speaker 1: wood here, um. But there were some close calls last year, 679 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,600 Speaker 1: first Washing game, right where you got up on the sidelines. 680 00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:57,680 Speaker 1: He took some hits last year. And uh, I don't 681 00:34:57,719 --> 00:34:59,839 Speaker 1: know that we've seen a large sample size of Mike 682 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,640 Speaker 1: White and Cooper Rush to say where they are. We're 683 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:05,160 Speaker 1: gonna We're gonna find out. I think I think I've 684 00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:09,799 Speaker 1: seen Cooper Rush. I've seen Cooper Rush be really good 685 00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:12,000 Speaker 1: to make this team. Matter of fact, he drove Kellen 686 00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:15,840 Speaker 1: Moore into coaching if you think about it. Yeah, he 687 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:18,680 Speaker 1: was one of the best best quarterbacks. I'm not just 688 00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:21,520 Speaker 1: talking about the veteran rookie whatever. He was like one 689 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:24,960 Speaker 1: of the highest rating quarterbacks two years ago in the preseason, 690 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:28,239 Speaker 1: and then last year it's like they drafted Mike White 691 00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:30,520 Speaker 1: and he spit the bit, you know. And I was 692 00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:33,239 Speaker 1: expecting Mike White to come in and be more competitive 693 00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:36,160 Speaker 1: and push and try and you know, get Cooper Rush 694 00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:37,879 Speaker 1: to knock him out or put him on the third. 695 00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:40,839 Speaker 1: You know, maybe maybe this might be one of those 696 00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:42,520 Speaker 1: spots where we look at they say they don't have 697 00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:45,120 Speaker 1: the luxury of maybe keeping a third quarterback this year. 698 00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:49,520 Speaker 1: If if we're right about all this competition at defensive line, 699 00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 1: at line, at a wide receiver, you know, at tight end, 700 00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:55,759 Speaker 1: are we're gonna be able to get able to keep 701 00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:58,400 Speaker 1: all these guys? So you might not be you might 702 00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:01,360 Speaker 1: not have the luxury of carrying that third quarterback. So 703 00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:05,560 Speaker 1: this is an important year for Cooper Rush and Mike White. 704 00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,680 Speaker 1: You know, Mike White needs to step up. He really does. 705 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:12,600 Speaker 1: He came in here and I was really just taking 706 00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:16,120 Speaker 1: backs a strong word. I was just kind of disappointed 707 00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:19,560 Speaker 1: because I thought he was a better player Western Kentucky. 708 00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:21,080 Speaker 1: I thought, I'm like, oh, he's gonna come in here 709 00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:23,200 Speaker 1: and beat Cooper Rush out. That's this is no brand. 710 00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:25,920 Speaker 1: And then neither one of them either put put put 711 00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:28,440 Speaker 1: the foot down on the accelerator. It was just they 712 00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,279 Speaker 1: both kind of play just okay, and you know it's like, 713 00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:33,880 Speaker 1: all right, we have to keep two quarterbacks. Les keep too. 714 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,040 Speaker 1: You know, I don't think they're that luxury this year, 715 00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:38,759 Speaker 1: I really really don't. Somebody's gonna have to step up 716 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:41,200 Speaker 1: and take this job. It's either bea Cooper Rush or 717 00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:43,000 Speaker 1: it's gonna be Mike White or do you have a 718 00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:47,359 Speaker 1: short list of available veteran quarterbacks out of work. It's 719 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:49,719 Speaker 1: interesting because I mean they haven't gone that route. A 720 00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:52,680 Speaker 1: account floating around somewhere, those seem like to be the 721 00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:55,080 Speaker 1: popular guy. I mean they haven't gone that route since 722 00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:58,560 Speaker 1: twenty sixteen when they really want koys, yeah, make boys, 723 00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:01,600 Speaker 1: m accounts. I mean, they got such a steel with 724 00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:04,399 Speaker 1: Dak in twenty sixteen, and I think they they change 725 00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:07,040 Speaker 1: course and said, we we want to develop. You know, 726 00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:09,960 Speaker 1: we've got a young starter. Let's see if we can 727 00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:12,600 Speaker 1: find more guys that we can develop through the draft. 728 00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:14,160 Speaker 1: The thing Mike White was a fifth round pick a 729 00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:16,560 Speaker 1: couple of years ago. I mean, they tried Matt Castle, 730 00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:19,480 Speaker 1: they tried Weedon, they tried all these guys. To our dismay, 731 00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:23,960 Speaker 1: it didn't work, you know, so um, But to your point, yeah, 732 00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:25,680 Speaker 1: I think once you get into training camp, in these 733 00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:28,319 Speaker 1: preseason games, the backups are going to have to show 734 00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:31,000 Speaker 1: that they can handle. Somebody had better step up yeah, 735 00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:34,400 Speaker 1: and that because again I'm just I'm making a prediction 736 00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:38,120 Speaker 1: as we speak here May seventh, right, May seventh, today, seventh, 737 00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:41,440 Speaker 1: May seventh. I'm saying, you know, they're not going to 738 00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:44,399 Speaker 1: keep three quarterbacks. I'm gonna make that prediction right now 739 00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:47,200 Speaker 1: because I think the roster is going to be so 740 00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:52,400 Speaker 1: strong at certain positions with some competition that they're thinking, like, 741 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,839 Speaker 1: we can't keep that guy, we can't keep They got 742 00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:57,560 Speaker 1: to put them on the practice yeah, or you know, 743 00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:00,360 Speaker 1: they cut them in. They're thinking, okay, good luck, you know, 744 00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:02,960 Speaker 1: and maybe we'll find another quarterback down the line. But 745 00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:06,360 Speaker 1: they if now, if they keep both quarterbacks, he'll be 746 00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:09,920 Speaker 1: because both quarterbacks earned the right to be here. But 747 00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:11,759 Speaker 1: if one of them goes out there, like I said, 748 00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:15,400 Speaker 1: spits the bid again and doesn't play with any passion 749 00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:18,120 Speaker 1: and fire and intensity and moving the team and it's 750 00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:20,600 Speaker 1: just you know, three and out, three and out, three 751 00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:23,279 Speaker 1: and out in all those preseason games, you know, then 752 00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:26,960 Speaker 1: I could see him moving on from that. So another position, 753 00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:31,399 Speaker 1: which was a luxury last year, they kept four tight ends. Yeah, 754 00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:33,680 Speaker 1: can they afford to do that again this year? And 755 00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:37,840 Speaker 1: if they can't, then Rico he's on the line with 756 00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:43,879 Speaker 1: Witton coming back and Schultz and Jarwin. To me, he's 757 00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:47,359 Speaker 1: fourth in line again. Keep and they signed the young 758 00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:54,960 Speaker 1: guy Cody McElroy mackelroy. Yeah, and he looks like a 759 00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:58,480 Speaker 1: tight end. Yeah, he didn't play much. He was about 760 00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:02,239 Speaker 1: another basketball basketball right, But again, I was just gonna 761 00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:06,959 Speaker 1: save everybody the UH having to call and ask about Rico. 762 00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:10,120 Speaker 1: Where he fits in? Can I ask a question about Rico? Yes, 763 00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:14,280 Speaker 1: put him at tackle right now? We've gotten some questions 764 00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:16,200 Speaker 1: from fans about that. I mean, would you would you 765 00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:18,360 Speaker 1: just go ahead and say tough enough? You know what 766 00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:22,040 Speaker 1: I think, the blocks you're gonna get hit every fight enough. 767 00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:24,640 Speaker 1: But but but maybe it's about maybe it's a way 768 00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:29,000 Speaker 1: that you tell him, listen, your best avenue of sticking 769 00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:32,560 Speaker 1: in the National Football League and maybe maybe other team. Well, 770 00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:34,719 Speaker 1: obviously if they put him out there, somebody will pick 771 00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:40,120 Speaker 1: him up, because everybody's interested in the basketball guy. By 772 00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:42,480 Speaker 1: the way, every kite ind the Cowboys have cut has 773 00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:44,360 Speaker 1: gone on and done great things. So that might be 774 00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:46,600 Speaker 1: another reason to pick up a tight end from his team. 775 00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:50,879 Speaker 1: But but would you consider putting Rico Gathers right at 776 00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,680 Speaker 1: least in the minicamps, the OTAs and working him as 777 00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:57,440 Speaker 1: some offensive tackle and see if if in fact it 778 00:39:57,760 --> 00:39:59,880 Speaker 1: because I think he's got the feet the feet to 779 00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:02,279 Speaker 1: do it, I don't. We'll see about the power of 780 00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:05,040 Speaker 1: the upper body strength and stuff. And maybe that's too 781 00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:08,000 Speaker 1: much to ask mentally of him to have to switch that. 782 00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:11,880 Speaker 1: But he plays that, he plays next to tackles. He 783 00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:16,640 Speaker 1: plays next to tackles in blocking. So but but okay, 784 00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:18,759 Speaker 1: you talk about your investment in time and all that. 785 00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:20,960 Speaker 1: I mean, it's just tough because because he's the transition 786 00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:23,880 Speaker 1: just to get the tight end from eighth grade I 787 00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:25,800 Speaker 1: haven't played, and now you want to switch him. But 788 00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:29,359 Speaker 1: the numbers don't appear to be in his favor now obviously, right, 789 00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:31,759 Speaker 1: it's gonna be tough because you've got a draft pick 790 00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:34,280 Speaker 1: in front of you. They love Jarwin. You got Jason Witten, 791 00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:37,200 Speaker 1: and he's maybe he's better than maybe he's better than Schultz. 792 00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:40,440 Speaker 1: They listened to him at two eighty two. Yeah, I 793 00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:42,840 Speaker 1: don't know. You know, this is where I'm kind of like, 794 00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:46,480 Speaker 1: if you if you did it now, he's two eighty two, 795 00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:49,759 Speaker 1: and you could get him to two ninety four, maybe 796 00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:52,080 Speaker 1: to ninety five something like that put about, you know, 797 00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:54,200 Speaker 1: puts them a little weight more because he's gonna have 798 00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:57,120 Speaker 1: the offseason program. As far as lifting weights, you keep 799 00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:58,719 Speaker 1: bulking him up a little bit. I just think the 800 00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:01,880 Speaker 1: footwork maybe can help being an athlete, But what about 801 00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:05,839 Speaker 1: football awareness that that right there will get somebody killed. 802 00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:09,680 Speaker 1: But I was just thinking, if you're not gonna the 803 00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:12,239 Speaker 1: investment that they made. Okay, so we're saying that the 804 00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:14,840 Speaker 1: two year investment of three year investment of Rico gathers 805 00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:17,840 Speaker 1: is has been a watch. I mean, this is not 806 00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:20,200 Speaker 1: a watch, but as a that's a failure. This is 807 00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:22,600 Speaker 1: the third year, right, right, you gotta do something your 808 00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:24,920 Speaker 1: third year. You gotta make us say the same thing 809 00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:26,960 Speaker 1: about the first round pick they had too that year. 810 00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:30,800 Speaker 1: It's really his fourth year, but he's he missed basically 811 00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:33,959 Speaker 1: one year and no, he's in the same boat. Yeah yeah, 812 00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:37,879 Speaker 1: except for the fact that he's got a guaranteed contract. Yeah. See, 813 00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:42,000 Speaker 1: that's that's Will McClay came out and was was very 814 00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:47,719 Speaker 1: very adamant about Rico needs to not Rico Taco such 815 00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:50,239 Speaker 1: a crowded group. Durance Armstrong's gonna try to you know, 816 00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:52,920 Speaker 1: you drafted a couple ends and we'll see what happens there. 817 00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:55,480 Speaker 1: All right, when you have a four million dollars dead 818 00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:57,640 Speaker 1: money if you get rid of him or trade him, 819 00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:00,359 Speaker 1: and who would give you anything for him at this point? 820 00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:02,680 Speaker 1: I mean, he's got a step up, but again you're 821 00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:05,800 Speaker 1: kind of hamstrung because of the contract. Maybe player for player, 822 00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:08,959 Speaker 1: first round player, it's still cost you four million dollars. Well, 823 00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:13,160 Speaker 1: they would assume the guarantee, yes, right, if you traded him, 824 00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:16,960 Speaker 1: but the dead money on the signing bonus has still remains, 825 00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:19,719 Speaker 1: so it should not Pittsburgh with dead money. That's a 826 00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:21,719 Speaker 1: lot of dead money in Pittsburgh. All right, let's take 827 00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:24,120 Speaker 1: our final break. Kent's got a quarterback list for us 828 00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:25,799 Speaker 1: when we come back, and we got one caller hold 829 00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:27,279 Speaker 1: and just hang on. We'll get to you right after 830 00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:28,920 Speaker 1: the break next. It can be hard to find the 831 00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:32,600 Speaker 1: right resource for learning about important financial matters. 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They're developing sort of a 896 00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:41,320 Speaker 1: to give you an example what it is, you know, 897 00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:45,840 Speaker 1: the Ronald McDonnell House at Children's Hospital here in Dallas. 898 00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:52,000 Speaker 1: They are going to give their combined donations are going 899 00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:55,720 Speaker 1: to be able to give Dallas its first American Cancer 900 00:46:56,200 --> 00:47:00,440 Speaker 1: Society Hope Lodge. It's a Hope Lodge where pepe that 901 00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:03,680 Speaker 1: have to come in in town from out of town 902 00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:07,520 Speaker 1: forty or more miles away and gives them a place 903 00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:12,560 Speaker 1: to stay, family members, support groups. If somebody's in here 904 00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:15,440 Speaker 1: for cancer treatment, they can put them up in a 905 00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:21,840 Speaker 1: condominium type place in this Hope Lodge free of charge. 906 00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:28,200 Speaker 1: They also allow them to you have facilities to cook, 907 00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:31,320 Speaker 1: so you can stay there in a two bedroom, private 908 00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:36,080 Speaker 1: bath basically condo while you're in town when someone that 909 00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:40,120 Speaker 1: you're giving care to is having treatment and the person 910 00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:43,040 Speaker 1: that's having treatment obviously is in the hospital. And I 911 00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:48,480 Speaker 1: thought the neatest thing about it was they have available 912 00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:55,839 Speaker 1: kitchen space and it was described as chef quality competition 913 00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:59,840 Speaker 1: cooking space where families can go down and mingle and 914 00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:04,920 Speaker 1: cook and kind of share what everybody's doing. So the Cowboys, 915 00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:10,200 Speaker 1: Jerry and Gene Jones donating seven point five million dollars 916 00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:14,280 Speaker 1: to this. Baylor Scott and White is donating the land 917 00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:19,000 Speaker 1: close to the Baylor Hospital downtown. It's in the Deep 918 00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:21,600 Speaker 1: Album area and they're going to break ground on that 919 00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:24,640 Speaker 1: and they're hoped to be up and running by twenty 920 00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:28,279 Speaker 1: twenty one, so a really neat idea. They have them 921 00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:30,680 Speaker 1: around the country. Yeah, and this will be the first 922 00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:34,920 Speaker 1: one in Dallas. Awesome, Awesome, all right, I promise we 923 00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:37,960 Speaker 1: get to the phone lines eventually. Will you're still there 924 00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:41,359 Speaker 1: from Chicago? Yes, I'm here. Thanks for holding buddy. What's 925 00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:43,520 Speaker 1: on your mind today? So we just have a couple 926 00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:48,120 Speaker 1: of comments and one comment and one question. Two questions. Really, So, Mickey, 927 00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:50,840 Speaker 1: the next time he in Chicago, which will be in December, 928 00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:54,960 Speaker 1: you have to try the Chicago Pizza pot pie at 929 00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:59,120 Speaker 1: the Chicago Pizza and Oven Grind. Definitely something you would enjoy. 930 00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:02,040 Speaker 1: Comes in half a pound and one pound? Can I 931 00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:05,719 Speaker 1: order it online? But yeah, you better order it because 932 00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:08,960 Speaker 1: there's a long wait. So my first question has to 933 00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:11,719 Speaker 1: deal with Randy Gregory. I know that we've had a 934 00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:15,920 Speaker 1: lot of commerces for as his pending suspension. Do we 935 00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:19,120 Speaker 1: have any kind of update on what that actually means, 936 00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:22,759 Speaker 1: and the second question probably more discussion. I know that 937 00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:26,719 Speaker 1: we put a lot of emphasis on moving to more 938 00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:29,960 Speaker 1: a younger lineup, and I love Sean Lee. He's only 939 00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:34,400 Speaker 1: only player I have pictures with. But with all the 940 00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:37,719 Speaker 1: young talent that we have, do you see the Cowboys 941 00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:42,319 Speaker 1: being brave enough or having enough guts to really move 942 00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:45,960 Speaker 1: away from a Shan Lee who was actually his last 943 00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:48,440 Speaker 1: years and maybe nim with Jason Witten? I think Jason's 944 00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:50,600 Speaker 1: will the safe and and Sean but will they make 945 00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:53,239 Speaker 1: that type of decision? And I'll hang up and listen 946 00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:55,880 Speaker 1: to the sir. Ask you a question quick, sir, sir, 947 00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:58,279 Speaker 1: so are you with me? Okay? Who? Hey? Yeah? Yeah, 948 00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:00,800 Speaker 1: I was gonna ask okay, so you're thinking about this 949 00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:03,239 Speaker 1: for final cuts? Then, right is how you're looking at it? 950 00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:06,759 Speaker 1: So okay? So we need to figure out though. Are 951 00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:09,040 Speaker 1: we liking that Sean Lee is gonna play sam linebacker, 952 00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:11,360 Speaker 1: which Mickey I give him full credit for that. We 953 00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:13,920 Speaker 1: are we okay with that? For Shaun Lee played in 954 00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:17,120 Speaker 1: that role and then being a backup player if something 955 00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:19,200 Speaker 1: were to happen, Because I'll give you a really good 956 00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:21,560 Speaker 1: example of what's happened the last couple of years, last 957 00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:25,080 Speaker 1: few years, if I remember correctly, you know, you look 958 00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:26,880 Speaker 1: at it with Joe Looney was able to do to 959 00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:30,279 Speaker 1: step in backup guy, step in play sixteen games. Need 960 00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:32,640 Speaker 1: that type of a player. Ron Larry did the same 961 00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:36,600 Speaker 1: thing for Lyle Collins. So to me, having a veteran 962 00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:39,400 Speaker 1: type of a guy, especially a guy with the quality 963 00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:43,880 Speaker 1: of you know, pedigree of Sean Lee, I'm not too interested. 964 00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:48,120 Speaker 1: I'm thinking about week seven, Week eight, week eleven. You know, 965 00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:52,040 Speaker 1: we're maybe I'm gonna need that veteran guy to step 966 00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:54,440 Speaker 1: in because Joe Looney stepped in for sixteen weeks. Now 967 00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:57,520 Speaker 1: Joe Looney becomes a backup again, and now there's questions 968 00:50:57,520 --> 00:51:01,640 Speaker 1: about Joe Looney, you know, even is of Connor McGovern. 969 00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:04,920 Speaker 1: So I'm just I'm just trying to get a handle 970 00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:08,359 Speaker 1: on this thing. You're you want to just completely move 971 00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:11,040 Speaker 1: on from Sean Lee. It's what I'm am I right 972 00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:14,480 Speaker 1: about this. No, I'm not saying let's move completely away 973 00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:16,719 Speaker 1: from him right away. I think that we have to 974 00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:19,799 Speaker 1: go through the competition. But if someone shows a talent 975 00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:22,960 Speaker 1: and the ability to do, you know, that's the decision 976 00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:24,839 Speaker 1: we have to make sure and I think I think 977 00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:27,000 Speaker 1: maybe a couple of seasons back I called it. It 978 00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:29,120 Speaker 1: was actually last season I called it and asked the question, 979 00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:32,080 Speaker 1: if Sean Lee goes down, which he did, who steps in? 980 00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:35,359 Speaker 1: Your answer at that point in time was Joe Thomas? Right, 981 00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:37,640 Speaker 1: So Joe Thomas is still with us. We have Chris 982 00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:40,000 Speaker 1: Covington us there. Yeah, I think they brought in a 983 00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:43,000 Speaker 1: couple of another other linebackers. Yeah, Chris. I think that. 984 00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:47,440 Speaker 1: I think that what makes the Patriots the Patriots is 985 00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:51,000 Speaker 1: they're willingness to move on, right, So, you know, are 986 00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:55,160 Speaker 1: we granted if the situation is right? I think having 987 00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:59,359 Speaker 1: him there and that that's that experience is definitely crucial. Yeah, 988 00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:01,480 Speaker 1: but at some point in time, you have to make 989 00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:04,480 Speaker 1: sure that you're reliable to be on the field. Him 990 00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:08,120 Speaker 1: playing Sam linebacker, in my opinion, taking on hits every play, 991 00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:12,799 Speaker 1: I don't see that being a long term solution. Well, 992 00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:15,960 Speaker 1: but you're not going to play every play, right, You're 993 00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:18,960 Speaker 1: gonna play about twenty five percent of the snaps and 994 00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:22,279 Speaker 1: you're gonna back up the other two positions. And him 995 00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:25,600 Speaker 1: backing up the Sam, I mean, the week and the 996 00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:29,200 Speaker 1: middle is better than any other alternative. The Cowboys have, 997 00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:33,080 Speaker 1: and as it was explained to me, he doesn't have 998 00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:36,319 Speaker 1: to be on the line of scrimmage every play playing Sam. 999 00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:39,279 Speaker 1: They can play him off. They've done that before with 1000 00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:42,880 Speaker 1: their strong side linebacker and protected him. But if you 1001 00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:45,920 Speaker 1: got somebody that's you think's good enough to come in 1002 00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:50,399 Speaker 1: and you know who is it, you know Covington's barely played, yeah, 1003 00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:54,120 Speaker 1: you know. And Joe Thomas is more of a middle 1004 00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:59,000 Speaker 1: week guy, not a strong side guy. So I don't 1005 00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:00,799 Speaker 1: think he gets in a way. And the best part 1006 00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:04,160 Speaker 1: is his contract, the way it got restructured, doesn't get 1007 00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:07,520 Speaker 1: in the way either. I'm all, yeah, no, it's a good, 1008 00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:10,440 Speaker 1: good discussion. Now, sometimes you have to have a luxury somewhere. 1009 00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:13,879 Speaker 1: I just think that Sean Lee. I'm because I'm thinking 1010 00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:18,280 Speaker 1: about again, Week seven, Week nine, Week eleven, something somewhere 1011 00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:20,239 Speaker 1: right there. You're gonna need Shaun Lee to start one 1012 00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:22,719 Speaker 1: of these games. You know, somebody's gonna get banged up 1013 00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:24,920 Speaker 1: and you know, not gonna be able to suit up 1014 00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:27,040 Speaker 1: for a game or two. And I think Kevin Shawn Lee, 1015 00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:31,279 Speaker 1: you know that that last year though, that they only 1016 00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:33,960 Speaker 1: played like the Sam linebacker in the playoffs when we 1017 00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:37,880 Speaker 1: played ten percent. Yeah, the two playoff games. Damien Wilson 1018 00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:40,560 Speaker 1: was under thirty in the snaps the season, So, I mean, 1019 00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:43,480 Speaker 1: and Mickey's right about that, but I think that I 1020 00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:45,880 Speaker 1: just also think like that they're gonna do more with 1021 00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:48,440 Speaker 1: Shawn Lee. Maybe it's gonna give. And I don't think 1022 00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:50,479 Speaker 1: they want to take Layton van Rush off the field. 1023 00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:52,239 Speaker 1: I don't think they want to take Jayleen Smith off 1024 00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:54,400 Speaker 1: the field, Jaylen Smith. I think they want to develop 1025 00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:56,640 Speaker 1: Jayalen Smith Moore as a rusher, believe it or not, 1026 00:53:56,760 --> 00:54:01,120 Speaker 1: a guy, an attacking linebacker in nicol situations and stuff him. 1027 00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:04,120 Speaker 1: If you tell me, okay, we want to play straight coverage, 1028 00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:07,640 Speaker 1: I'll take Jalen Smith off the field because I don't 1029 00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:10,839 Speaker 1: think he can cover as well. But I think Sean 1030 00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:13,400 Speaker 1: Lee can. I think see and there's other packages that 1031 00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:15,960 Speaker 1: can use them for it. You can play four linebackers 1032 00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:20,640 Speaker 1: and as Brian said, and then Jalen becomes a pass rusher. Yeah, 1033 00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:23,759 Speaker 1: is he Russian? Is he not Russian? Right? Is Shawn 1034 00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:26,480 Speaker 1: Lee covering? Is he not covering? Right? There's so many 1035 00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:28,920 Speaker 1: things they can do with that three man front that 1036 00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:32,719 Speaker 1: they kind of like to use. The people on periscope 1037 00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:36,920 Speaker 1: are saying the football IQ and that's that's that's absolutely right. 1038 00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:41,200 Speaker 1: I know that's a smart that's a smart observation by 1039 00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:44,319 Speaker 1: somebody on pariscope. I'm sorry to catch your name, but yeah, 1040 00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:48,120 Speaker 1: that is it. You know, I understand what he was 1041 00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:50,360 Speaker 1: talking about with the injury and being young and all that. 1042 00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:53,759 Speaker 1: That's that's something that always comes into your mind. It's 1043 00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:56,239 Speaker 1: a young team to begin with. Maybe I need to 1044 00:54:56,400 --> 00:55:01,040 Speaker 1: carry a Witton, a Sean Lee, you know, I need 1045 00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:04,440 Speaker 1: to carry a veteran guy to make sure that the 1046 00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:06,640 Speaker 1: young guys are kind of doing things the right way. 1047 00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:09,440 Speaker 1: If they're getting in the way, if somebody is clearly 1048 00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:13,120 Speaker 1: better than Shan Lee, then I trust Will McClay, Jerry 1049 00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:15,520 Speaker 1: Jones and Stephen Jones and Jason Garrett to make the 1050 00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:17,839 Speaker 1: right decision to move on from that player if that's 1051 00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:19,000 Speaker 1: what they have to do. I don't think you look 1052 00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:21,879 Speaker 1: at the linebacker depth chart and say there isn't that guy. 1053 00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:25,200 Speaker 1: I just don't now to Will's point, sure, he's got 1054 00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:29,080 Speaker 1: to stay healthy, absolutely, but the football IQ is big 1055 00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:31,279 Speaker 1: because number. By the way, Sean Lee was the best 1056 00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:33,279 Speaker 1: linebacker on the field in the playoff game. The loss 1057 00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:35,239 Speaker 1: of the Rams. That was a bad day overall for 1058 00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:37,680 Speaker 1: the defense. But the football IQ thing, there were plays 1059 00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:40,120 Speaker 1: that you watched Layton last year, and he needs to 1060 00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:41,600 Speaker 1: be on the field as much as possible, but there 1061 00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:46,680 Speaker 1: were plays that experience diagnosing things, another year or two 1062 00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:48,560 Speaker 1: of experience would have done him well. And that's a 1063 00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:51,520 Speaker 1: play that probably Sean might have recognized and gotten taken 1064 00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:53,800 Speaker 1: the right angle to the ball. Things like that. It 1065 00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:55,520 Speaker 1: shows up if you go back and watch some of 1066 00:55:55,560 --> 00:55:57,279 Speaker 1: that stuff. So what was the first part of his 1067 00:55:57,440 --> 00:56:00,759 Speaker 1: question of the Chicago Pizza Pot pie date on Randy 1068 00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:04,840 Speaker 1: Gregory indefinitely suspended right now? Yeah, he's indefinitely suspended, So 1069 00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:07,840 Speaker 1: I think he kind of worded it like it was 1070 00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:12,600 Speaker 1: impending or something. He is suspended. I think the best 1071 00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:17,320 Speaker 1: thing you can say is they are hopefully optimistic that 1072 00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:20,839 Speaker 1: he'll get reinstated. I think I've had some people tell 1073 00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:23,880 Speaker 1: me that Randy Gregory's working out on his own. You 1074 00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:26,080 Speaker 1: know that he's trying to do some things to kind 1075 00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:29,759 Speaker 1: of keep himself active, keep himself going, making sure that 1076 00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:33,880 Speaker 1: while these guys are here doing OTAs and Captain's workouts 1077 00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:35,880 Speaker 1: and all that he's not gonna He's not just sitting 1078 00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:39,439 Speaker 1: there waiting for you know, somebody to decide his fate. 1079 00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:42,440 Speaker 1: He's going to. If it works, he'll be ready. If 1080 00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:45,279 Speaker 1: it doesn't work, well, then he'll do what he has 1081 00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:48,240 Speaker 1: to do. But now and again we talk about Randy 1082 00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:51,440 Speaker 1: in his situation. It's unfortunate, you know, And I'm not 1083 00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:53,520 Speaker 1: going to sit and act like I made a mistake 1084 00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:57,520 Speaker 1: with Randy Gregory, you know, and evaluating him. And I'm 1085 00:56:57,520 --> 00:56:59,680 Speaker 1: not going to do that again, because you know, it's 1086 00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:03,760 Speaker 1: un fortunate. I don't know his complete, you know, completely, 1087 00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:06,000 Speaker 1: what goes on with him, But I was wrong about 1088 00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:08,799 Speaker 1: his willingness to want to play football. I thought, now 1089 00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:12,080 Speaker 1: he doesn't care about football. He really does care about football, 1090 00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:15,080 Speaker 1: but he's got something. He's got an illness that's keeping 1091 00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:18,360 Speaker 1: him from being the football player that that he's he 1092 00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:20,800 Speaker 1: was in college. And you know, we have yet to 1093 00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:22,680 Speaker 1: see here with the Cowboy. He really is a unique 1094 00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:27,120 Speaker 1: case because it is a it's an illness and it's 1095 00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:29,440 Speaker 1: an issue that probably won't get resolved until the next 1096 00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:32,760 Speaker 1: CBA and he unfortunately he entered the league in twenty 1097 00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:36,840 Speaker 1: fifteen and under the current rule play, it's it's it's 1098 00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:39,240 Speaker 1: an issue trying to figure out where he falls with 1099 00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:43,400 Speaker 1: violations of the substance he plays. He plays for a professional, 1100 00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:48,760 Speaker 1: professional sport that is very not very sympathetic to his 1101 00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:52,640 Speaker 1: kind of condition, or it has no understanding of his condition. 1102 00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:56,400 Speaker 1: That's that's the problem. If he would maybe maybe maybe 1103 00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:59,840 Speaker 1: the other sports baseball, basketball, hockey, maybe they have a 1104 00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:03,600 Speaker 1: better understanding of this. Football doesn't have a better understanding 1105 00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:06,680 Speaker 1: of this. And we don't know the circumstances surrounding the 1106 00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:10,160 Speaker 1: reason for the indefinite suspension. There's a lot of things 1107 00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:13,120 Speaker 1: that he has to follow and and the only reason 1108 00:58:13,240 --> 00:58:17,480 Speaker 1: I say they're you know, hopefully optimistic. If you listened 1109 00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:21,520 Speaker 1: to Stephen Jones answer questions about it, I mean, he 1110 00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:25,560 Speaker 1: sounds like, but they know something we don't. Yeah, but 1111 00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:28,280 Speaker 1: we gotta be careful, Mickey. Remember we got fooled by 1112 00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:31,920 Speaker 1: the whole Zeke thing Jerry came out was a legal thing, 1113 00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:35,440 Speaker 1: and we can have analyze that. We can't analyze. No, 1114 00:58:35,560 --> 00:58:37,760 Speaker 1: we can't analyze this. But it's if it's coming from 1115 00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:41,000 Speaker 1: the league, you gotta just be careful about And I 1116 00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:44,800 Speaker 1: appreciate what you're saying. I really really do the legal 1117 00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:47,960 Speaker 1: stuff we understood. I don't know if I really understood it, 1118 00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:52,600 Speaker 1: but I tried. Well, we obviously misinterpreted it because the 1119 00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:56,080 Speaker 1: way they interpreted. But if you've noticed since then, the 1120 00:58:56,280 --> 00:59:00,360 Speaker 1: league hasn't done again what they've done to Zeke. Yeah, 1121 00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:03,680 Speaker 1: it hadn't happened, all right, KNT real quick. You wanted 1122 00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:06,320 Speaker 1: to drop a free agent quarterback list for us, just 1123 00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:08,760 Speaker 1: in case the Cowboys wanted to look that way. Yeah, 1124 00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:11,080 Speaker 1: let me know if any of these names, um excite 1125 00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:14,560 Speaker 1: you more than Cooper Rush and or Michael we'll just 1126 00:59:14,680 --> 00:59:17,480 Speaker 1: say stop when we're interested. Some of these names might 1127 00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:20,680 Speaker 1: be very familiar to Cowboys fans as well. Um, we'll 1128 00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:24,000 Speaker 1: start with David Fails. He was last with Miami. Free 1129 00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:29,840 Speaker 1: agent Brock Osweiler, also last with Miami, Josh Johnson, And 1130 00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:35,360 Speaker 1: here's some familiar names. Brandon Whedon, Mark Sanchez, Matt Castle. 1131 00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:39,640 Speaker 1: Sanchez suspended the first four games? Or was that last 1132 00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:43,120 Speaker 1: year I was last? It was? Okay, there we go. 1133 00:59:43,240 --> 00:59:45,720 Speaker 1: Sanchez still out there, Josh McCown still out there as well. 1134 00:59:45,880 --> 00:59:49,520 Speaker 1: There's some accounco, there's some m account that helps Gino 1135 00:59:49,640 --> 00:59:53,520 Speaker 1: Smith and um, Rob, this is for you, Johnny manziel 1136 00:59:53,720 --> 00:59:57,000 Speaker 1: I gotta put it out there, put the feelers out, Rob, 1137 00:59:59,440 --> 01:00:02,440 Speaker 1: Johnny in there trying to get an extra thousand or two. 1138 01:00:02,680 --> 01:00:06,080 Speaker 1: Uh oh yeah, Well that's a great way to end 1139 01:00:06,080 --> 01:00:09,080 Speaker 1: the show, isn't it. And that's kind of why you're 1140 01:00:09,120 --> 01:00:11,200 Speaker 1: trying to develop your own guys. Right, threw up in 1141 01:00:11,240 --> 01:00:14,840 Speaker 1: my mouth. So you got roots there with all of that. 1142 01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:18,920 Speaker 1: None of those guys. That's why you try to develop 1143 01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:22,360 Speaker 1: your own guys, because those guys had shot. Maybe Josh McCown, 1144 01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:25,680 Speaker 1: he forgot a very he got a very key name. 1145 01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:29,640 Speaker 1: He left somebody off. He left somebody off, left somebody 1146 01:00:29,720 --> 01:00:33,280 Speaker 1: off that that that just might be the best one 1147 01:00:33,320 --> 01:00:36,520 Speaker 1: out of all those guys. Tony Romeo, Oh, he's playing 1148 01:00:36,560 --> 01:00:38,360 Speaker 1: golf this he's playing he's going to golf this week. Yeah, 1149 01:00:38,360 --> 01:00:44,320 Speaker 1: he's golfing. Colin Kaepernick. Yes, yes, if you're talking about 1150 01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:46,400 Speaker 1: get me a guy that I know is in shape 1151 01:00:46,920 --> 01:00:50,320 Speaker 1: that can whip the ball. But again, is the is 1152 01:00:50,320 --> 01:00:53,320 Speaker 1: there going to be important time in this NFL where 1153 01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:57,120 Speaker 1: we now understand what's going on here and then we 1154 01:00:57,200 --> 01:00:59,840 Speaker 1: don't have the back and forth with that. I guess 1155 01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:02,280 Speaker 1: just as much talent as every one of those people 1156 01:01:02,360 --> 01:01:04,680 Speaker 1: that that can't just named has been to a Super 1157 01:01:04,720 --> 01:01:09,360 Speaker 1: Bowl almost, I'm none of those guys would create a 1158 01:01:09,560 --> 01:01:14,000 Speaker 1: controversy if Dak had one bad game. Yeah, no, you're fair, 1159 01:01:14,120 --> 01:01:16,120 Speaker 1: that's absolutely right. But I'm just saying, if if I 1160 01:01:16,280 --> 01:01:19,520 Speaker 1: was a general manager and I needed a backup quarterback, 1161 01:01:20,920 --> 01:01:23,000 Speaker 1: I know I would look at him and say I 1162 01:01:23,040 --> 01:01:25,440 Speaker 1: would I would work that angle. Yeah, you're losing Dak 1163 01:01:25,520 --> 01:01:28,560 Speaker 1: week three? Would you take? That's a different story over. 1164 01:01:29,240 --> 01:01:31,440 Speaker 1: I need to see what Kellen Moore's doing with his offense. 1165 01:01:32,120 --> 01:01:34,800 Speaker 1: But if he's moving Dak around, this guy you can 1166 01:01:35,560 --> 01:01:38,480 Speaker 1: if you have an athletic quarterback, This guy makes a 1167 01:01:38,560 --> 01:01:40,680 Speaker 1: lot of sense. And then the other question is does 1168 01:01:40,720 --> 01:01:43,200 Speaker 1: he want to play football? Yeah, that's another question because 1169 01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:45,360 Speaker 1: we don't know that do Yeah, we don't. All right, 1170 01:01:45,400 --> 01:01:47,680 Speaker 1: we're out of time. KNT thanks for producing and for 1171 01:01:47,720 --> 01:01:49,280 Speaker 1: the Yaggy wore him at the end of the show. 1172 01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:53,400 Speaker 1: Appreciate that. Thanks to Brian, thanks to Mickey. We'll hollerate 1173 01:01:53,480 --> 01:01:55,640 Speaker 1: you guys next Tuesday. Bill will be back in studio 1174 01:01:55,720 --> 01:01:58,400 Speaker 1: then for some more Talking Cowboys. This has been a 1175 01:01:58,480 --> 01:02:02,040 Speaker 1: production of Dallas cowboy dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys 1176 01:02:02,120 --> 01:02:02,800 Speaker 1: Football Club.