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Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind, a production of

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Speaker 1: My Heart Radio. Hey, welcome to Weird How Cinema. This

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Speaker 1: is Rob Lamb and this is Joe McCormick, and Hey today,

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Speaker 1: are we getting into the Marvel Cinematic universe? Is this

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Speaker 1: is this a Marvel superhero movie? Um? Uh, well, no,

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Speaker 1: I'm not quiet for the first question, but yes for

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Speaker 1: the second question, because we're gonna be talking about the

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Speaker 1: movie Blade, a movie that is kind of it is

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Speaker 1: kind of the precursor to the Marvel Cinematic universe, but

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Speaker 1: unlike the PG era and PG I guess thirteen probably

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Speaker 1: era of Marvel films that we have today, and even

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Speaker 1: the darker d C films that we have, and certainly

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Speaker 1: those have more in common with Blade. Uh. We're talking

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Speaker 1: about a solid are here, mostly for violence and language,

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Speaker 1: a little bit of sexuality, but you know, several differ

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Speaker 1: and things that wouldn't fly in the Marvel movies that

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Speaker 1: are so popular right now. It is hilarious that this

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Speaker 1: is essentially I would say, a movie for kids, but

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Speaker 1: absolutely not for kids, hardcore R rated comic book movie. Uh. Like,

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Speaker 1: basically every other word is the F word. It's relentless. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Blade as a superhero. He has several different superpowers, but

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Speaker 1: one of them is definitely that he gets to say

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Speaker 1: the F and he gets to say the F as

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Speaker 1: many times as he wants to, as far as I

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Speaker 1: can tell, I don't think there's a limit. And there's

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Speaker 1: constantly blood spraying everywhere on everything. Yes, yeah, there's a

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Speaker 1: lot of blood in this one, um and a lot

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Speaker 1: of attitude. So it's this is a movie where we're

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Speaker 1: once more getting pretty close up to U the dawn

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Speaker 1: and then the century we spend most of our time.

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Speaker 1: And because this is ninety eight, I think I think

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Speaker 1: the closest we've come to to to to breaking the

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Speaker 1: millennium point has been Deep Blue Sea is that. I

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Speaker 1: think it was ninety nine, But we're pushing the boundaries

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Speaker 1: again here. Well. So I was thinking about this and

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Speaker 1: about how Blade is not only a vampire superhero movie.

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Speaker 1: It is also very much in terms of like the cinematography,

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Speaker 1: the way this movie looks and uh, in the the

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Speaker 1: way the fight senator stage. It is very much a

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Speaker 1: millennial R rated action thriller, and so what does that mean?

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Speaker 1: I would characterize it as follows sets with tons of slick,

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Speaker 1: not do at the time in and no one finding

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Speaker 1: would say muted colors in general, with kind of harsh

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Speaker 1: lighting reflecting off of all the slickness in the sets.

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Speaker 1: And then extreme gratuitous gun violence where like rooms of

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Speaker 1: then finally sunglasses inside all the time. Yeah, the gun

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Speaker 1: violence is interesting in this film because it's not the

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Speaker 1: thing that I think of when I think of Blade,

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Speaker 1: but it's it's clearly part of of of these movies. Uh.

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Speaker 1: You know, when I've looked back fondly that I'm thinking

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Speaker 1: about the times that he's he's kicking vampires and stabbing

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Speaker 1: vampires and using that katana sword and so forth. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's also blasting room fulls of of vampires. But but

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Speaker 1: know with me anyway, it doesn't resonate as much as

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Speaker 1: the martial arts action. Oh yeah, the martial arts is

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Speaker 1: clearly where it's at. Blade kicks and he you just

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Speaker 1: imagine like when you're watching this movie, like if Blade kicked,

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Speaker 1: every every time Blade, really, anytime anyone is hit in

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Speaker 1: this movie. I buy it. Like it. It does a

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Speaker 1: really good job of selling the physical violence. Now, before

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Speaker 1: I'll mention this. We we started mentioning where to watch

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Speaker 1: a film earlier on in the episode for folks who

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Speaker 1: want to go in unspoilt. But basically, you can watch

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Speaker 1: Blade everywhere. You can get it on DVD, you can

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Speaker 1: three of the original blades of streaming. So Blade one,

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Speaker 1: Trinity if you will. Now, I think you're more of

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Speaker 1: Uh well, they Sally, I think i'd only ever seen

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Speaker 1: have you not seen Gamma do Toro's Blade Too? No?

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Speaker 1: I haven't seen any of the sequels. Oh my goodness.

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Speaker 1: Blade two is amazing. Blade Too is is everything that

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Speaker 1: this film brings to the table. But then Gammada to

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Speaker 1: a weirdness on top of that, So all sorts of

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Speaker 1: much because it's its own special treat Well, so that

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Speaker 1: what I would consider the mostly materialist vampire ideology and Blade.

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Speaker 1: So Blade, the Blade universe is full of vampires, but

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Speaker 1: Like the vampires are not affected by holy objects. They

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Speaker 1: don't seem to be spiritually demonic in nature, though they

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Speaker 1: are evil. Uh, they're treated as products of genetic mutation,

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Speaker 1: A glutinous rice dealer scene would have really set Blade apart.

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Speaker 1: Snipes completely embodies this character. I don't know what so

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Speaker 1: You buy it, you believe it. It's absolutely perfect. It's

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Speaker 1: like Robert Shaw as Quint just is the character. Yeah, absolutely,

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Speaker 1: Let's here part of the trailer. I don't I don't

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Speaker 1: A secret nation. Our Livelihoart depends on our ability to

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Speaker 1: ruling the humans. These people are food. They've got their claws.

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Speaker 1: Now one will lead them to conquer mankind Tonight, at

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Speaker 1: There worst things out tonight than vampires like me Blade. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: trailers were bad in the nineties. Yeah, yeah, I don't.

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Speaker 1: it to leave it all right, Well, let's let's get

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Speaker 1: into the folks involved in this film, shall we? Oh please? Alright?

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Speaker 1: Starting at the top, the director is Stephen Norrington, sixty four.

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Speaker 1: This is this isn't the first time we've discussed Steven Norrington,

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Speaker 1: as he did creature designs on Split Second. That that

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Speaker 1: Norrington is a London born effects makeup artist who worked

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Speaker 1: of Extraordinary Gentleman. But I believe he has continued to

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Speaker 1: That's great stuff. Uh wow, I never saw a League

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Speaker 1: But lighting often feels harsh in this movie, Like even

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Speaker 1: don't like that. It feels bad. All right. So that's Norrington,

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Speaker 1: that's the director. Screenwriter on this is David S. Goyer. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: this is a huge name in the screen screenwriting world. Um.

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Speaker 1: Of course, we should drive home that Norrington and Goya

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Speaker 1: the in the What We Do in the Shadows TV series. Nice,

423
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Speaker 1: I just to go back to something we discussed in

424
00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:29,439
Speaker 1: the previous Weird House. I also have to say that

425
00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:31,840
Speaker 1: when I think about Snipes now, I can't help but

426
00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:35,080
Speaker 1: think about Steven Seagal, because both actors are of the

427
00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:38,919
Speaker 1: same era. Both actors were allegedly difficult on set, or

428
00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:42,560
Speaker 1: could be difficult on set in some cases. Uh. However,

429
00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:45,320
Speaker 1: Snipes was clearly the bigger star, and I feel like

430
00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:49,679
Speaker 1: in Blade, especially, Snipes manages to actually capture the essence

431
00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:54,119
Speaker 1: of a modern action movie warrior priest, certainly a vibe

432
00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:56,800
Speaker 1: that C. Seagal was was always going for in these

433
00:24:56,840 --> 00:25:00,480
Speaker 1: films but not quite nailing. So Snipes kind of captures

434
00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:04,560
Speaker 1: what Segal always aspired for. That's an interesting way to

435
00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:07,280
Speaker 1: put it. Yeah, well, I would say another difference is

436
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:11,840
Speaker 1: that while Snipes does plenty of these, uh, these silly

437
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:15,760
Speaker 1: action hero roles, Snipes is actually a good actor, and

438
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:19,040
Speaker 1: I don't think that can be said of Steven Seagal. Yeah,

439
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:22,480
Speaker 1: I think that's an important distinction to make Now you

440
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:25,960
Speaker 1: know what they say, every great hero needs at least

441
00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:29,520
Speaker 1: a mediocre villain. And that's that's where we turn to

442
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:34,120
Speaker 1: Deacon Frost, our Vambhire villain in this film, played by

443
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:38,800
Speaker 1: Stephen Dorff. Oh, I think uh Dorf as Deacon Frost

444
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:42,680
Speaker 1: is better than mediocre. I found him a delightfully fun

445
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:45,560
Speaker 1: as the villain in this He's fun. I don't know,

446
00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:50,600
Speaker 1: something always felt a little lacking from me in this character. Uh,

447
00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:53,439
Speaker 1: you know, not not bashing the performance at all. I

448
00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:55,720
Speaker 1: feel like he delivers on what they were going for

449
00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:59,679
Speaker 1: here and and maybe ultimately he goes beyond that. Like

450
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:02,800
Speaker 1: Deacon Frost is a is a villain that I am

451
00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:06,040
Speaker 1: not rooting for, Like I don't like him, and ultimately

452
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,480
Speaker 1: maybe that's the point, Like I'm not supposed to like

453
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:11,760
Speaker 1: Deacon Frost. He's an upstart. Um, you know, he's a

454
00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 1: He insults everybody, whether you're you know, other vampires or

455
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:18,240
Speaker 1: you're a vampire hunter. You know, he's a He's a

456
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:21,760
Speaker 1: consummate bad guy in that regard. He I love the

457
00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:25,119
Speaker 1: premise for the character though it's hilarious. He's basically the

458
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:28,080
Speaker 1: ideas Deacon Frost is taking this vampire thing a little

459
00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 1: too far, you know. He's like, well, I can understand

460
00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:34,399
Speaker 1: the killing people and drinking their blood, but Frost is

461
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:37,639
Speaker 1: a little extreme. He is he's an extremist. He's a

462
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:41,560
Speaker 1: young extremist, and the old establishment doesn't really know what

463
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:47,080
Speaker 1: to do with him. Um, he's hilariously inept and dealing

464
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:50,879
Speaker 1: with any internal threats clearly. Um. Yeah. He gets taken

465
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:54,960
Speaker 1: before the Board of Directors of Vampires and they're like, Frost,

466
00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:57,600
Speaker 1: you're you're you're a loose cannon, you know, you're you're

467
00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:00,960
Speaker 1: like yeah, though, yeah, Well, they don't even really kick

468
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:04,119
Speaker 1: him off the force. They're just like, you shouldn't you

469
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:06,720
Speaker 1: shouldn't be like this, Frost, And he's like, well I am.

470
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:09,200
Speaker 1: And then he walks off and like smokes a cigarette

471
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:11,800
Speaker 1: and they're like the lass, what can you do? And

472
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:14,639
Speaker 1: then later just wipes them out and and yeah, it

473
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 1: completely takes over without any real sense of like you

474
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 1: don't get the sense that, oh man, Frost really was

475
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 1: pulling those political strings, like I don't know, it looks

476
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 1: like he just put at least marginal effort into it,

477
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:30,399
Speaker 1: and the old vampire lords were just totally inept. Uh.

478
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 1: They didn't see it coming. They couldn't come up with

479
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 1: with even like they had every reason in the world

480
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,400
Speaker 1: to get rid of Stephen, get rid of Deacon Frost here,

481
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:40,199
Speaker 1: And there's no line in the film where they're kind

482
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:42,280
Speaker 1: of where they even acknowledge why they haven't done. So

483
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 1: they're not like, oh, Deacon Frost, you're so out of line,

484
00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:48,120
Speaker 1: you're so you're so lucky that we have this one

485
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:50,359
Speaker 1: provision in vampire law that says we cannot kill you,

486
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:53,440
Speaker 1: or or something like, oh, Deacon Frost, thank goodness you're

487
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 1: doing the uh the blood harvesting forests. Otherwise, if if

488
00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:58,919
Speaker 1: you want it so important, we would just get rid

489
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:01,159
Speaker 1: of you. There's no reason for us to believe that

490
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:05,159
Speaker 1: Frost has any importance to the vampire authority here, and

491
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 1: yet they do nothing about him and then he kills

492
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:10,400
Speaker 1: them all. You're right. It's not even like Tony Soprano

493
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 1: being like, oh, I want to whack him, but he's

494
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:15,639
Speaker 1: a good earner. They're just they're just like he's constantly

495
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,879
Speaker 1: causing problems and threatening us. Oh what are we gonna do?

496
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:26,240
Speaker 1: I'm mudokire, I don't know alright. So Doriff, though he's

497
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:28,600
Speaker 1: been around a while I started off as a child actor,

498
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:31,720
Speaker 1: appearing in the seven film. One of his earlier roles

499
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 1: was the eighties seven filmed The Gate about kids summoning

500
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:36,960
Speaker 1: up demons at home. But most of his earlier credits

501
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:40,240
Speaker 1: are TV roles, but some bigger screen roles would come around.

502
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:45,239
Speaker 1: With the Power of One is Backbeat, as well as

503
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 1: Stewart Gordon's Space Truckers in post Blade. He was in

504
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 1: such films as John Waters Cecil Beatdimented in two thousand,

505
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 1: the uh if Memory Serves Terrible, Fear dot Com in

506
00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 1: two thousand and two. What wait, what are you saying

507
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 1: bad about fear dot Com? I mean maybe maybe would

508
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 1: be fun in retrospect, but at the time even I

509
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 1: remember watching Fear dot Com and it it was just

510
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:12,240
Speaker 1: a whole it was bad. No, it's bad, but it's

511
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:15,960
Speaker 1: part of the series of movies all came out around

512
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 1: that time about telecommunications technology that kills you. So like

513
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:21,800
Speaker 1: in The Ring, you get a phone call and it

514
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 1: kills you, and then in this movie you go to

515
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 1: a website and it kills you. Yeah, Fear dot Com

516
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:30,400
Speaker 1: and like the one of the worst, like Ring knockoffs.

517
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 1: I guess of the era. I think it actually might

518
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 1: have come first lightly before the American ring at least. Okay,

519
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 1: I'm not positive about that at any rate. Uh, it's bad. Now.

520
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 1: I don't have much to say about a lot of

521
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 1: these roles, but I do think that Dorff was pretty

522
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 1: great in the third season of True Detective. He really

523
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 1: wowed me, and that, like, I hadn't really seen him

524
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 1: play this sort of character before. Generally, I had only

525
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 1: seen him play these cool characters from the younger phase

526
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 1: of the career. But as this character, Detective Roland West

527
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 1: in True Detective, I really liked him in that. Yeah,

528
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:10,440
Speaker 1: I agree, he grizzled. Well. One more thing about him,

529
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 1: A fun fact. He's the son of composer Steve Dorff,

530
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 1: who composed the score for the seven film My Best

531
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 1: Friend as a vampire. All right, next actor we're gonna

532
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 1: talk about here, Chris ger Stafferson is in this with

533
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:28,800
Speaker 1: the character Whistler. Whistler is Blade's tech man, his back up,

534
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 1: his He's his Q, always providing him with cool new

535
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 1: gadgets with which to kill a little blood drinkers. Except

536
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 1: he's not whimsical like Q. You know, don't touch that table. Seven. Instead,

537
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 1: he's a well to come back to the theme of grizzled,

538
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 1: he is. He is as grizzled as it gets. Yeah,

539
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 1: he has grizzled to the max um. And then you

540
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 1: can imagine Norrington being like, cut, all right, can we

541
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:56,239
Speaker 1: try it again, Chris, but this time more grizzled. Can

542
00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 1: you make it more grizzled and and reckless and gruff

543
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 1: and Christophers It's like, yeah, I can do it. Yeah,

544
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 1: smoking constantly guzzling Jack Daniels, it's great. Out of the

545
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:12,440
Speaker 1: bottle without pouring it in the class, smoking while sloppily

546
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 1: putting gasoline in a car, smoking while fueling up a car.

547
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 1: He always looks like he just stepped on a nail

548
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 1: a few minutes ago. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, he has

549
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 1: like his leg and a brace too. Right. So this

550
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 1: is Chris Kristofferson, very well known name singer, songwriter turned actor.

551
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 1: Some of his biggest songs that he wrote were Me

552
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 1: and Bobby McGee for the Good Time, Sunday Morning, Coming Down,

553
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 1: and help Me Make It through the Night. His first

554
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:44,640
Speaker 1: movie was Ones, the Last movie written and directed by

555
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 1: Dennis Hopper, and he also starred in the movie um

556
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 1: Cisco Pike the same year and He followed these up

557
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 1: with such nineteen seventies films as While a pair of

558
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 1: Sam Peck and pop films Patt Pat Garrett and Billy

559
00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 1: the Kid, as well as Bring Me the Head of

560
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 1: Alfredo Garcia. Uh. He was also in Martin Scorsese's nineteen

561
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 1: seventy four film Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore, and in

562
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy six he starred opposite Barbra streisand in A

563
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 1: Star Is Born. Oh was he playing the the Bradley

564
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 1: Cooper role in in that version of it? Yeah? Yeah,

565
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 1: he's there, the character that Bradley Cooper would revisit the remake. Now,

566
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 1: I can't We can't touch on all the films that

567
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 1: Christophers since been. He was in a ton of stuff

568
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 1: and during his career, but some of the others that

569
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 1: stand out, at least to me are nineteen eighties, Seven's

570
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 1: Gate nine eight, Big Top Peewee nineteen eighty nine is Millennium.

571
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 1: He was in John Saylis's Lone Star in ninety six,

572
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 1: and in two thousand and one he was in Planet

573
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 1: of the Apes, the Planet of the Apes remake, the

574
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 1: Tim Burton one. Right, Yeah, yeah, that one has a

575
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 1: great cast, and I believe I've seen it. I don't know.

576
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 1: I sometimes I feel like I need to revisit that

577
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 1: one see exactly what was up. It has some great

578
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 1: ape suits. So obviously he plays Whistler in all three

579
00:32:56,880 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 1: Wesley Snipes Blade movies, so we're well weight of a

580
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 1: shocker to you, Joe. I distinctly recall him dying in

581
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 1: the movie. I just watched. It didn't take. It didn't take.

582
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 1: The character was too good. People wanting more Whistler. So

583
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 1: even though, okay, but he comes back very early, it's

584
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 1: not really a big plot. Basically early on in Blade Too,

585
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:23,480
Speaker 1: they're like, you remember Whistler, Well he's back. We're bringing

586
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 1: him back from the dead. Like is he a vampire? Um?

587
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 1: I think there's a little vampire nous involved in his

588
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 1: him coming back, but I'm a little foggy on how

589
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 1: it happened. It Also, it really, even at the time,

590
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 1: as much as I love Blade Too, it felt like,

591
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 1: what we killed Whistler. No, he's great, bring him back, okay. Um.

592
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:48,240
Speaker 1: Chris Christofferson was also in the weird movie Trouble in

593
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 1: Mind from directed and written by Alan Rudolph, which is

594
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 1: a film that I think I would there'd be a

595
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:59,040
Speaker 1: lot to talk about if we were to cover this

596
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 1: some weird how sin him muh uh, if it were

597
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 1: not for some of the less savory aspects of the

598
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 1: character he plays in the film. Um and now, Chris

599
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:10,400
Speaker 1: Kostofferson is really good in it, and so are Divine,

600
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:14,760
Speaker 1: Keith Carroteene and Joe Morton. But for my taste anyway,

601
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 1: Rudolph makes some choices with the protagonist that end up

602
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:20,840
Speaker 1: tarnishing the film for me. Uh anyway. At this point

603
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:24,279
Speaker 1: in his career, Christofferson is is still alive as of

604
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:27,760
Speaker 1: this recording, but is retired from acting in music these days.

605
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 1: His last film role was two thousand Eighteens Blaze, directed

606
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 1: and written by Ethan Hawk. Not Blade, but Blaze Blaze. Yeah,

607
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:38,880
Speaker 1: so when I kind of went out, I guess in

608
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:40,400
Speaker 1: kind of a blaze of glory. I don't know. I

609
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:42,479
Speaker 1: haven't seen Blaze. I'm not not sure what it's about,

610
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 1: but I don't think it's about an off brand vampire killer. Okay,

611
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 1: so we got Blade, he's our vampire hunter, and then

612
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 1: we got Whistler, he is our Vampire Hunters assistant slash

613
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:58,920
Speaker 1: tech slash mechanic. But let's see in a in a

614
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 1: sort of materially based vampire scenario, you need a hematologist

615
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 1: in this. It wouldn't be a movie without a hematologist, somebody,

616
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 1: somebody who can explain all the blood science. And wouldn't

617
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:12,360
Speaker 1: you know it, we we happen to run across a

618
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:15,760
Speaker 1: hematologist quite early in the film. Yep, it's Karen, played

619
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 1: by and boucher Right born seventy known for such films

620
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:27,319
Speaker 1: as Dead Presidents, zebra Head, and Fresh Uh. So, yeah,

621
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:29,279
Speaker 1: she she kind of this has been more of a

622
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 1: modern film, you know. So she's she's not merely a

623
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 1: damsel in distress. She is in distress a few times

624
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 1: and Blade does safer, but then she also pulls through

625
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 1: and is of course a brilliant hematologist who starts cracking

626
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:47,279
Speaker 1: the vampire medical problem as well as proving herself very

627
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:50,800
Speaker 1: eager to grab a shotgun or a UV light torch

628
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:53,840
Speaker 1: and jump in and kill some vampires as well. I

629
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 1: think in boucher Right is great in this and I

630
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Speaker 1: like her characters arc So at first she is, yeah,

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Speaker 1: she's just like she gets bitten by vampire and needs

632
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:04,280
Speaker 1: rescuing by Blade. But yeah, over the course of the film,

633
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 1: she she becomes more and more active in fighting back

634
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:11,880
Speaker 1: and yeah, so she invents, uh invents some chemical weapons

635
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 1: to use against the vampires and she uh she she

636
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 1: gets a really good sword stab in on Donald Log

637
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 1: at one point and makes some vampires explode with some

638
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 1: garlic spray. Uh. She's great. Yeah. Another actor of note

639
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:31,360
Speaker 1: in this is um Sana Lathan, who plays Blades mom Vanessa.

640
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:35,399
Speaker 1: We see her at the very beginning in this flashback Borde.

641
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:38,880
Speaker 1: She had a much bigger career post Blade, actually starting

642
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:41,720
Speaker 1: in two thousands of Love and Basketball and Brown Sugar

643
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 1: from two thousand two, directed by Rick Famulula. She's also

644
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:49,160
Speaker 1: the lead in two thousand four's Alien Versus Predator. She

645
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:53,360
Speaker 1: had a recurring role on such TV shows as Niptuck, Secession,

646
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 1: and Family Guy. So she's the main character and Alien

647
00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 1: Versus Predator. I haven't seen that in a long time,

648
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 1: but I remember having a thought about her character and

649
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:06,839
Speaker 1: that which is that in the end, she and the

650
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 1: predators like defeat all the aliens, and the predators are like,

651
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:13,719
Speaker 1: good job, human, you know you you did good back there,

652
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 1: and then I think they give her a trophy or

653
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 1: something and then they fly off, and then she has

654
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 1: left standing by herself in the middle of Antarctica. So

655
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, she would definitely die. Well, you know, predators,

656
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 1: they don't really know how humans work all that much.

657
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:32,440
Speaker 1: I guess she they should have given her a ride.

658
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:35,400
Speaker 1: I think all right, the next actor of note, Donald

659
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 1: Logue is in this playing the character Quinn uh an

660
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 1: excellent vampire henchman. Uh to Mr Frost here, this character

661
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:48,240
Speaker 1: is a lot of fun. This is a great villain.

662
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:51,799
Speaker 1: Uh And I kind of get the feeling that with

663
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 1: this character. Somebody watched Catherine Bigelow's Near Dark and they

664
00:37:56,080 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 1: saw Bill Paxton's character as the as the all ways

665
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:03,839
Speaker 1: going nuts vampire, dancing on tables, taunting people with the

666
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 1: with the kind of southern accent, and to use a

667
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 1: Goyeri ism, they said, I gotta get me one of those. Yeah,

668
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:12,399
Speaker 1: I think I can see their connection here. You both

669
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 1: also get crispy and keep on vamping um the you know,

670
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:19,360
Speaker 1: both fun characters with similar traits. I think Paxiston and

671
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:21,799
Speaker 1: Logue each kind of make them their own. I think

672
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 1: Paxiston's characters maybe a little more um Texan and Logues

673
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 1: character Quinn here's a little more dude, you know, but

674
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:34,800
Speaker 1: but yeah, I can see the connection between these two anyway.

675
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 1: In my opinion, Quinn is the best villain role in

676
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 1: the in the film by far. Though. I do like

677
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 1: the relationship that they developed between Quinn and Frost, Like

678
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 1: they have a good vibe. So it's never one of

679
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:49,319
Speaker 1: these it's not a situation where I'm like, oh, I

680
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:51,920
Speaker 1: wish it was just Quinn. Like I love Quinn when

681
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:53,720
Speaker 1: he's on the screen, but I also love his moments

682
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 1: with Frost. They really worked those out. Well. There's a

683
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 1: great scene where you think Frost is gonna like cut

684
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 1: off Quinn's arm, but he's just joking with him. He's like, no, no,

685
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:06,720
Speaker 1: let's yeah. Yeah, yeah, there's there's some some nice little

686
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 1: nods like this, the very the subtle manipulation that Frost

687
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 1: has him play over Quinn. Um, but there bros that

688
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 1: there are bros. Yeah, but are they really like you

689
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 1: know that Frost really is going he never gets the

690
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:22,440
Speaker 1: chance to actually betray Quinn. But but yeah, it's heavily

691
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:25,399
Speaker 1: implied that, Yeah, the second that Frost has what he needs,

692
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 1: Quinn is no longer necessary. Yeah, when he becomes the

693
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:32,320
Speaker 1: Blood God. In the Blood God does not have any Bros. Yeah,

694
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:36,239
Speaker 1: So Logs TV screen career kicks off in the early

695
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 1: nineties with a smattering of small TV roles. You see

696
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 1: him on X Files, you see him on Northern Exposure,

697
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 1: as well as such films as ninety two Sneakers, ninety

698
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:48,320
Speaker 1: three Gettysburg, and these smaller roles continue. He even pops

699
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:53,319
Speaker 1: up in Jerry McGuire Um. He played Jimmy the Cab

700
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:56,839
Speaker 1: Driver and several MTV promos in the early nineties as well.

701
00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 1: I don't know if you remember these. Joe No just

702
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 1: kind of a chance for outlandish character work from from

703
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 1: logan those um. He's worked a lot since Blade, but

704
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 1: some of the highlights include David Fincher's Zodiac. In two

705
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 1: thousand seven, he was on the TV series Vikings and

706
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 1: Oh Man. He has a really fun role in the

707
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:22,920
Speaker 1: biker series Sons of Anarchy. He plays an opiate addicted

708
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 1: renegade x Us Marshall named Lee Torrik. He's not on

709
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 1: the show a lot, but he's he really eats up

710
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:32,360
Speaker 1: the screen when he's on there. Well. He's definitely a

711
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 1: scene stealer in this movie too, as a vampire who

712
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:38,840
Speaker 1: just repeatedly gets like burned and chopped up and stuff,

713
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 1: but then comes back. Yeah, and he's he's just full

714
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:44,720
Speaker 1: of energy. You know, he's he's all about enjoying the party,

715
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 1: but he's also all about bringing the fight to blade.

716
00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:00,279
Speaker 1: But you know, it wouldn't be a vampire move if

717
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 1: it didn't have Udo Kier in it. Yea, and Udo

718
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 1: Kier in it plays Dragonetti is our our top vampire

719
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 1: lord or vampire baron, at least in the local. Um. Uh,

720
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 1: what does I don't even know what city this is

721
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:17,960
Speaker 1: supposed to be. I think they filmed parts of it

722
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:21,239
Speaker 1: in Canada, in parts of it in California. Uh, it's

723
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:23,920
Speaker 1: vaguely it's it's not it's unimportant. It is just the city,

724
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:27,319
Speaker 1: South American big city. It's never specified. Parts of it

725
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:29,759
Speaker 1: look more like an East coast city like New York.

726
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 1: Parts of it definitely looked like l A. So I'm

727
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 1: not sure. But but yeah, Udo Kier, he is the

728
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 1: CEO of the vampires in this movie. Yeah. So Kira

729
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:43,880
Speaker 1: oh Man, Kira has been in a lot so German

730
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 1: bor an actor with two d and seventy five credits

731
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:49,400
Speaker 1: on IMDb. Um, I don't know if I said I

732
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 1: may have said it already born, still very much alive,

733
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:54,759
Speaker 1: still active. He's one of these actors. He seems to

734
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 1: have been in everything and become an icon for this

735
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:01,839
Speaker 1: weird mix of pop ler but also art house and

736
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:04,520
Speaker 1: just utter B movies and and and less than B.

737
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 1: Like there's some some really really really low budget looking

738
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:13,719
Speaker 1: like video game adaptations he's been in. Um, are you

739
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 1: making a movie that you're filming on your cell phone?

740
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 1: Udo Kier will be in it. Give him a call. Yeah,

741
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:22,359
Speaker 1: if you meet the price, he will, he will show up.

742
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 1: And that they and he's one of these guys that

743
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:26,400
Speaker 1: like even like, no, no, none of these movies have

744
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 1: slowed him down. Uh So he's he just keeps keeps

745
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:31,879
Speaker 1: acting in things, and he'll pop up in some really

746
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 1: good stuff here and there, but then he'll also be

747
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:36,360
Speaker 1: in something that's just you know, complete trash and nothing

748
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:40,400
Speaker 1: sticks to him. Um. He started acting on screen in

749
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 1: the late sixties and appeared in such films as a

750
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:47,319
Speaker 1: nine seventies Mark of the Devil opposite Herbert Loam. In

751
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:50,959
Speaker 1: seventy three and seventy four, he played both Baron Frankenstein

752
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 1: and Count Dracula in Fresh Flesh for Frankenstein Not Fresh

753
00:42:55,480 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 1: Flesh for Frankenstein and Blood for Dracula, both famously produce

754
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:03,760
Speaker 1: used in part by Andy Warhol, so it pretty legendary

755
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 1: for those roles. Um In nineteen seventy seven he played

756
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 1: Dr Frank mandel Is in Mandel or Mandel I don't remember,

757
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 1: but anyway, the movie is Dario Argento's Suspiria. Yeah. He's

758
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:20,800
Speaker 1: like a character that the main character goes to talk

759
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:24,800
Speaker 1: to in a like a park outside an office building

760
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:30,240
Speaker 1: and and he tells her about witches. Yeah. So Kierre

761
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 1: has been in lots of European films and in general

762
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 1: just lots of films. He was in ninety five Johnny Nemonic. Uh,

763
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:40,319
Speaker 1: he was Ince Fincher, a pet detective. He was in

764
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:44,440
Speaker 1: nineteen six is barbed Wire. In two thousand he was

765
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 1: in both Shadow of the Vampire and Dancer in the Dark.

766
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:51,840
Speaker 1: In two thousand and one he was in both Werner

767
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 1: Herzog's Invincible I believe that starred Tim Roth and he

768
00:43:56,040 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 1: was also in Uh Meghito, was in Meghito Toho. I

769
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 1: saw that in theaters. That's one of those uh Christian

770
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:08,279
Speaker 1: apocalypse movies. It's all about the anti Christ in the

771
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 1: end times, the anti Christ played I think by Michael

772
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 1: York Basil exposition from the Austin Powers movies. In two

773
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:21,719
Speaker 1: thousand and two, Kira was also in Fear dot Com.

774
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 1: He's like, let me have some of that fear dot

775
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 1: Com action, and I will go to that website. Don't

776
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 1: do not try. I don't know, we can't vouch for

777
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 1: that website. Um. But but again, artful and terrible movies

778
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 1: kind of find a perfect balance in udeau Kier and

779
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:39,920
Speaker 1: this trend continues to this very day. Most recently, his

780
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:43,880
Speaker 1: film Swan Song earned a great deal of praise, in

781
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:49,279
Speaker 1: which he plays a formerly flamboyant hairdresser aging flamboyant hairdresser.

782
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:51,359
Speaker 1: And yeah, that that one was can I was reading

783
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 1: articles about that one on MPR. Oh, but Joe, he

784
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:55,799
Speaker 1: was in another movie that I know that you've mentioned

785
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:57,800
Speaker 1: to mean before. He was in two thousand four. Is

786
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 1: Dracula three thousand, that's right? Uh. Dracula three thousand is

787
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:09,319
Speaker 1: a directive video sci fi horror masterpiece starring Casper van Deen,

788
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:12,239
Speaker 1: who was in the first Omega Code movie by the way,

789
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 1: to Connections abound, but not just Casper van Deen, and

790
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 1: so it's also got coolioh Uh. Erica Lank and Tommy

791
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:25,719
Speaker 1: Lister Tiny Lister. Um. I'm gonna say I saw Dracula

792
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:30,880
Speaker 1: three thousand circa two thousands seven, but the memory is

793
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:33,759
Speaker 1: firmly implanted because this is one of those movies that

794
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 1: is not just bad. It's not just really bad, it's

795
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 1: unusually bad. I think paying attention to this entire movie

796
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 1: should be like a standard test of willpower and sustained

797
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 1: attention used in like training airline pilots. You know, if

798
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:53,160
Speaker 1: you're the safety technician at a power plant, you must

799
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 1: watch Dracula three thousand and and be able to describe

800
00:45:56,640 --> 00:46:00,120
Speaker 1: everything that happens afterwards. It's a it's that would be

801
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:03,760
Speaker 1: a feat of the brain. The plot is, I think

802
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 1: that there's a spaceship helmed by Casper van Deen. I

803
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:11,719
Speaker 1: think he's literally named Captain Abraham van Helsing, and they

804
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:16,800
Speaker 1: they've run across a derelict ship called the Demeter reference

805
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:19,719
Speaker 1: to Dracula, of course, and then they try to salvage it,

806
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 1: but whoops. There's a vampire on board, but not a

807
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 1: sci fi vampire, so imagine frilly shirt, huge collar, black cape.

808
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 1: He's a Halloween costume of a vampire. But in this

809
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 1: spaceship movie because it sounds like you're working up he

810
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:39,440
Speaker 1: had like a space vampire, like a something like from

811
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 1: Planet of the Vampires or something, or something even more alien.

812
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:44,719
Speaker 1: But you had shared a picture of this, and yeah,

813
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:48,480
Speaker 1: it's just straight up department store vampire. No, he's literally

814
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:53,080
Speaker 1: just like Ivan tor Blood and so Udo Kier is

815
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 1: in this movie too, But he appears in such a

816
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:57,239
Speaker 1: way that, as as a friend of mine put it

817
00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:59,319
Speaker 1: at the time, it looks like he left his car

818
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 1: running while he ran in to shoot his scenes. Uh.

819
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:04,760
Speaker 1: He does not interact with the rest of the cast.

820
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:08,280
Speaker 1: As far as I recall. He plays the dead captain

821
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 1: of the Darrelict Chip, and his only scenes where he's

822
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:14,879
Speaker 1: acting are like video logs left behind. And in these

823
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:18,600
Speaker 1: video logs, he's obviously reading his lines for the first

824
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 1: time as he delivers them, so he's going straight off

825
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 1: the que cards, and you can see his eyes going

826
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:27,520
Speaker 1: back and forth as he goes down each line of

827
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 1: a bunch of whole you know, like, oh, there's something

828
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:32,280
Speaker 1: on board. We are doomed that that kind of stuff.

829
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 1: All right. Next up, I guess we we got to

830
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 1: try and move move a little quicker through these other names,

831
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:42,279
Speaker 1: but we so we have Quinn as one of the

832
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 1: vampire lackeys. We also have a character named Mercury. She's

833
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 1: a super fast blonde vampire. Um May played by Arley Joverte,

834
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:55,399
Speaker 1: Spanish dancer turned actor went on to appear in such

835
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 1: films as Vampire Slas Mirtos, Empire of the Wolves and

836
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:02,239
Speaker 1: David Finchers The girl with the dragon tattoo. She she

837
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:05,240
Speaker 1: vamps it up good here. Yeah, she's great. She she's

838
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 1: she does a good like kind of wolf snarl. She's

839
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:10,880
Speaker 1: got good teeth for the role. That's something I was

840
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:12,880
Speaker 1: thinking about watching this film. A lot of folks have

841
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:16,799
Speaker 1: vampire teeth in and vampire teeth look cool, but they

842
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 1: can also make your uh this, the prosthetic that goes

843
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 1: in your mouth can make your your cheeks a little puffy.

844
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:25,960
Speaker 1: So you kind of get that that vampire teeth cheek

845
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:27,759
Speaker 1: puff going on with a lot of the actors here.

846
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 1: Yeah alright, Um, we also have Tracy Lords in this

847
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:35,239
Speaker 1: playing the character Raquel. Uh. This is the vampire who

848
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:40,799
Speaker 1: leads our bro victim of human to the vampire rave

849
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 1: early on her film. Um yeah, so just a small role,

850
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 1: but uh Lords Born who basically transitioned out of notoriety

851
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 1: into what would become a solid mainstream acting career. She was.

852
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:58,320
Speaker 1: Her first such role was in Not of This Earth,

853
00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 1: a remake of the Roger Corman classic that we've discussed

854
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:04,920
Speaker 1: on this show, directed by another name that comes up

855
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 1: a lot, Jim Warnarski. I've never seen this remake. I

856
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:12,560
Speaker 1: don't know that you should. It doesn't particularly good, but

857
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 1: it exists, I mean, especially given how great the original

858
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:18,640
Speaker 1: Not of This Earth was. But anyway, she's been a

859
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:20,560
Speaker 1: bunch of stuff. She was in John Waters Cry Baby

860
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:22,680
Speaker 1: not long after that. She did a lot of TV

861
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:27,320
Speaker 1: for such series as mcgever, Highlander, Tales from the Crypt,

862
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 1: melrose Place, Roseanne Nash Bridges, and Will and Grace. Okay,

863
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:35,439
Speaker 1: smaller roles now, Uh, there's a character named Crease. He's

864
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:38,760
Speaker 1: basically a vampire underling that ends up losing a hand

865
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:43,640
Speaker 1: to a booby trap, played by Matt Schulz born seventy two.

866
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:47,400
Speaker 1: Matt Schultz is interesting because he returns and Blade two

867
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 1: as an entirely different vampire um a blood Pack member

868
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 1: named Chupa and Matt Schulz has has been in a

869
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:58,279
Speaker 1: number of movies over the years, including two thousand ones

870
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 1: Fast and the Furious in two th was an eleventh

871
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 1: Fast five in which he plays a character named Vince.

872
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:06,280
Speaker 1: Was also in The Transporter. I think the basic situation

873
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 1: is he did Blade and then he got jacked to

874
00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:12,160
Speaker 1: do Fast and Furious, and then he came back and

875
00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:15,919
Speaker 1: Blade two and played a different Jack vampire. I'm trying

876
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:18,040
Speaker 1: to remember who this guy is in any of these

877
00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:20,520
Speaker 1: movies I've seen, and I can't. Okay, well, I mean,

878
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:22,520
Speaker 1: he was in two of them, right, like he was.

879
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:24,759
Speaker 1: He must be part of what the family, right, because

880
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:28,200
Speaker 1: he's called back he came back in I don't think so.

881
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:31,439
Speaker 1: I don't recall he's maybe it was a flashback. This

882
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:36,520
Speaker 1: is This is not Vin Diesel. This is not ludicrous.

883
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:39,759
Speaker 1: This is you know, I don't. I don't know. Well,

884
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:42,120
Speaker 1: moving along, we're getting into bit players here now. But

885
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:45,759
Speaker 1: I have to point out that Greg Okamura is in

886
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:50,320
Speaker 1: this playing an uncredited vampire. He's one of the vampire lords.

887
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:53,880
Speaker 1: Their number of really cool looking vampire lords sitting around

888
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:57,400
Speaker 1: the table with Udo. Most of none of them do anything,

889
00:50:57,480 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 1: most of them do not talk, but several of the

890
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 1: him look really cool, and Okamarro certainly looks cool. Hawaiian

891
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:07,280
Speaker 1: born American actor, stuntman and martial artists. You've definitely seen

892
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:11,440
Speaker 1: in something, um, even if it's just playing Wing Kong.

893
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:15,560
Speaker 1: Hatchet Man is Big Trouble and Little China. Uh. He's

894
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:18,120
Speaker 1: he's the one that has like two I think golden

895
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:21,480
Speaker 1: revolvers in his in his hands. He also pops up

896
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:25,600
Speaker 1: in such films as The Octagon, Samurai Cop, The Shadow,

897
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:30,480
Speaker 1: Mortal Kombat version, Blood Sport three, and much more. Who

898
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 1: was he in The Mortal Kombat? I watched that probably

899
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:38,319
Speaker 1: a hundred times. I don't remember him specifically, but he

900
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 1: has a real he has a real cool look. You know,

901
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:43,799
Speaker 1: he's got this uh this long beard, bald head, you know,

902
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:46,640
Speaker 1: kind of a tough guy looks. So he's very much

903
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:48,279
Speaker 1: this kind of guy. He does some stunts, but also

904
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:50,000
Speaker 1: you're like, oh, he looks too cool to not have

905
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:52,279
Speaker 1: him more on camera. More can he at least stand

906
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:54,960
Speaker 1: in the background. I don't remember if he has a

907
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:57,839
Speaker 1: line in Blade, but you were right about he does

908
00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 1: not the the sort of board of directors of vampires,

909
00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:04,960
Speaker 1: being very ineffectual and not having much to say or

910
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:08,240
Speaker 1: do other than stand around and like look terrified by frost.

911
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:11,319
Speaker 1: I think occasionally one of them will just like like

912
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:15,760
Speaker 1: squeak like, well, I'm a coward, so I don't know. Yeah,

913
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:18,000
Speaker 1: or they'll be a little bit smug and be like

914
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 1: you have you have frost, you have no idea what

915
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:21,960
Speaker 1: you're doing. Or to one of the underlings, you know

916
00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:24,279
Speaker 1: he's gonna get you all killed, right, and that's sort

917
00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:27,279
Speaker 1: of that's all that ever announced to alright. Note on

918
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:31,040
Speaker 1: the music, Mark Isham did the music here um nine

919
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:34,880
Speaker 1: solid score in my opinion, you know, it hits all

920
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:37,360
Speaker 1: the right action beats. But also we have a number

921
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:41,360
Speaker 1: of sequences that are more ambient and ethereal in nature,

922
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:43,960
Speaker 1: be it like a Blade meditation scene or one of

923
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 1: those driving through the dreary daytime city scene that I

924
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:51,799
Speaker 1: feel like like, really those are the moments where you

925
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:53,960
Speaker 1: really have a chance for the score to shine though

926
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:56,640
Speaker 1: in and as was the style at the time. Note,

927
00:52:56,960 --> 00:52:59,279
Speaker 1: this movie also has a lot of rob would you

928
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:02,960
Speaker 1: would you call it acid techno? Yes, yeah, there's there's

929
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:04,680
Speaker 1: some there's some fun hip hop in it as well,

930
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:08,040
Speaker 1: but yeah, some of the key scenes involves some like

931
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:12,160
Speaker 1: a massive drop of acid techno. So yeah, there there

932
00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:14,200
Speaker 1: are several points where like oh, Blade gets out the

933
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:16,719
Speaker 1: sword and then immediately it's down to go down, down, down,

934
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:20,000
Speaker 1: down down down. Yeah that kind of thing. Yeah, I

935
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:23,320
Speaker 1: love it. But anyway, the score wise mark is Sham

936
00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:27,440
Speaker 1: also did such films as two thousand fours, Crash Bad, Lieutenant,

937
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:30,680
Speaker 1: Port of Called New Orleans, two thousand sevens, The Missed

938
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:34,960
Speaker 1: Time Cop Romeo is Bleeding Fire in the Sky Point Break,

939
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:38,360
Speaker 1: the Hitcher Trouble in mind when if I mentioned earlier

940
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:41,279
Speaker 1: Never Cry Wolf from eight e three. Uh he was

941
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:45,640
Speaker 1: nominated for an oscar for River runs through It. Uh

942
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:47,239
Speaker 1: So yeah, he's a he's a big deal and he's

943
00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:50,000
Speaker 1: still working. Cool now. A quick note on the stunts

944
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:52,560
Speaker 1: and fights. Uh. There are a few different names that

945
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:56,239
Speaker 1: are tied up in the stunt working choreography. Henry King Jr.

946
00:53:56,480 --> 00:54:00,920
Speaker 1: And Jeff Amata are credited with stunt coordinator honors. Imata

947
00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:03,600
Speaker 1: is a long time stuntman and martial artists who has

948
00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 1: worked in tons of notable films including Blade Runner, Dreamscape,

949
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:11,080
Speaker 1: Prince of Darkness, and Big Trouble and Little China. He's

950
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:12,520
Speaker 1: in Big Troumble a Little China. He's one of the

951
00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:15,520
Speaker 1: kidnappers of the Airport Okay and on Top of this

952
00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:20,160
Speaker 1: martial arts choreographer. Credits go to both Wesley Snipes himself

953
00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:32,960
Speaker 1: and Jeff Ward another long time stumming. All right, let's

954
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:36,440
Speaker 1: let's let's bust into the plot of Blade a bit more. Huh. Alright,

955
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:39,319
Speaker 1: so I guess we will talk about the opening. The

956
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:41,520
Speaker 1: opening has a kind of prologue that takes place in

957
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:44,880
Speaker 1: nineteen sixty seven, where you're in a hospital. It's that

958
00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:47,600
Speaker 1: dreamy kind of camera work that lets you know that

959
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:49,320
Speaker 1: this is not the whole movie is not going to

960
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:51,320
Speaker 1: be like this. You know it'll take place in the present,

961
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:54,440
Speaker 1: don't worry, But it's a sixty seven. You see a

962
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:57,400
Speaker 1: woman being rushed through a hospital on a stretcher and

963
00:54:57,520 --> 00:55:00,239
Speaker 1: she's about to give birth, but she also had as

964
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:03,359
Speaker 1: vampire bite marks on her neck, and you see like

965
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 1: her I d falls on the ground. I think you

966
00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:08,520
Speaker 1: see her name is Vanessa Brooks, and it's implied that

967
00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:12,240
Speaker 1: she dies. So that's the background, and then we get credits,

968
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:15,960
Speaker 1: and we see over the credits there are some sped

969
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:19,080
Speaker 1: up time laps shots of a city. I was trying

970
00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:21,080
Speaker 1: to figure out what city, but I think it's just

971
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:26,000
Speaker 1: it's intentionally non specific. A side note on this cinematography.

972
00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:28,960
Speaker 1: I was thinking, what is the effect on the viewer

973
00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:34,120
Speaker 1: created by time laps footage of human activity in a city,

974
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:37,520
Speaker 1: And to my mind, it has a kind of d

975
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:41,640
Speaker 1: individual add effect because you can't focus on any individual

976
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:45,360
Speaker 1: person and instead only see kind of trails or lines.

977
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:49,799
Speaker 1: You see masses of humans blurring together into just patterns

978
00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:53,000
Speaker 1: of movement, or you see the effects of their behavior

979
00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:55,960
Speaker 1: and projects over time, so you might see buildings being assembled,

980
00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:59,600
Speaker 1: or garbage piling up or something, And in this sense

981
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:02,120
Speaker 1: kind of makes you think of the humans in the

982
00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:06,520
Speaker 1: city more like ants in a nature documentary, not as individuals,

983
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:10,680
Speaker 1: but as a kind of collective effect and undifferentiated mass

984
00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:15,080
Speaker 1: of biology traveling along certain lines, which I think actually

985
00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:17,920
Speaker 1: works really well in the intro for a vampire movie.

986
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:21,400
Speaker 1: It has the eerie effect of letting us see humans

987
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:23,919
Speaker 1: more like how the vampires do, kind of like we're

988
00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:27,960
Speaker 1: herds of livestock without individual identities. So I think that's

989
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:32,200
Speaker 1: a very smart choice of technique for the opening of Blade. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, yeah,

990
00:56:32,239 --> 00:56:37,120
Speaker 1: short lived creatures that burned through life so quickly, and

991
00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:39,839
Speaker 1: it's these older beings, these long lived beings that prey

992
00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:42,200
Speaker 1: upon them. Now, then we get to the real opening,

993
00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:44,080
Speaker 1: which is you see two people on a date. I

994
00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:46,480
Speaker 1: think one of them is Tracy Lords, and they're like

995
00:56:46,640 --> 00:56:50,000
Speaker 1: winding their way through a meat packing warehouse and leading

996
00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:53,080
Speaker 1: into a secret club. There's like a bouncer at the door.

997
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:56,960
Speaker 1: They go into a club and immediately we're thinking, Okay,

998
00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:59,200
Speaker 1: is this a vampire club. It's got to be. It's

999
00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:01,680
Speaker 1: full of you know. Answer is there's one dancer there

1000
00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:04,880
Speaker 1: who can kind of teleport. I think that's um, what's

1001
00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:09,759
Speaker 1: her name? Who? Mercy Mercury? Yeah, and they're playing. At

1002
00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:11,360
Speaker 1: first I was like, is this e d M? But

1003
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:14,600
Speaker 1: Robbie corrected me, is, so this would be acid techno? Yeah,

1004
00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:17,200
Speaker 1: this is definitely acid techno in this scene. So there's

1005
00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:21,760
Speaker 1: a very gray and blue color palette, kind of pale colors. Uh.

1006
00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:24,960
Speaker 1: The DJ has flashlights strapped to his glasses. I think

1007
00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:28,280
Speaker 1: we see Stephen Dorff wandering around in the crowd. The

1008
00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:31,720
Speaker 1: rave scene is very late nineties. But then we see

1009
00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:37,880
Speaker 1: the DJ like unveils a giant banner saying blood bath

1010
00:57:38,520 --> 00:57:40,640
Speaker 1: and then what do you know of the sprinkler system

1011
00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:45,400
Speaker 1: kicks on and it's just spraying blood on everybody. This

1012
00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:48,120
Speaker 1: is before we started recording, Seth was asking me, who

1013
00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:50,360
Speaker 1: is bladed the movie where the sprinklers come on and

1014
00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:53,040
Speaker 1: it's blood, and we talked about it, and I was thinking,

1015
00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:55,680
Speaker 1: I don't think that would work because wouldn't the blood

1016
00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:58,760
Speaker 1: kind of like clump up or coagulate and clog up

1017
00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:01,200
Speaker 1: the sprinkler system. I just don't think you could do that.

1018
00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:06,200
Speaker 1: It's a special system that was probably custom installed. Because

1019
00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:09,320
Speaker 1: we find out the vampires are into everything. They can

1020
00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:16,240
Speaker 1: have custom tech installed. Um the human plumbers to do that, Um, well,

1021
00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:18,840
Speaker 1: if they are, they're they're vampire familiars. They have the

1022
00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:21,200
Speaker 1: glyph on the back of their neck and they're they

1023
00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:23,640
Speaker 1: know exactly. They install these in cities across the United

1024
00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:27,520
Speaker 1: States and in Europe and beyond. But they So the

1025
00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:29,720
Speaker 1: blood comes on and then the human dude who's been

1026
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:31,800
Speaker 1: led in there, he starts panicking, and then all the

1027
00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:34,600
Speaker 1: vampires are like hissing and baring their fangs at him.

1028
00:58:34,840 --> 00:58:37,280
Speaker 1: They're like really salting the meat with this guy. They

1029
00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:39,760
Speaker 1: don't just bite and drink his blood. They're like trying.

1030
00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:42,600
Speaker 1: It seems like they're trying to scare him to death. Yeah,

1031
00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:44,680
Speaker 1: this whole sequence is fun to sort of try and

1032
00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:47,560
Speaker 1: figure out because yeah, so there's the vampires want to

1033
00:58:47,600 --> 00:58:49,600
Speaker 1: drink blood, but they also want blood to come through

1034
00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:53,919
Speaker 1: the sprinkler system and fall on everything. They want to

1035
00:58:54,040 --> 00:58:57,880
Speaker 1: drain this man's blood, but also they kind of want

1036
00:58:57,880 --> 00:59:00,720
Speaker 1: to beat him up and scare him. And so I

1037
00:59:00,800 --> 00:59:02,720
Speaker 1: was the main way I was able to make sense

1038
00:59:02,720 --> 00:59:06,360
Speaker 1: of this is that, Okay, nothing that we that we

1039
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:10,120
Speaker 1: as humans in our life, nothing that we like or love,

1040
00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:12,920
Speaker 1: do we love as much as a vampire loves blood

1041
00:59:13,120 --> 00:59:16,880
Speaker 1: like a vampire has so many Like the vampire can't

1042
00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:19,680
Speaker 1: feel emotions about most things, but a vampire feels like

1043
00:59:19,720 --> 00:59:23,600
Speaker 1: all emotions about blood. And therefore they're like, yes, I

1044
00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:26,080
Speaker 1: want blood, I want blood to rain on me, I

1045
00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:28,600
Speaker 1: want I want to make love to the blood. I

1046
00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:30,320
Speaker 1: also want to beat the blood up. I want to

1047
00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:34,240
Speaker 1: drink the blood. I want to just blood, blood. Blood.

1048
00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:36,560
Speaker 1: That's all they can think about. And so this is

1049
00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:40,840
Speaker 1: the the very sort of of of experience, the very

1050
00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:43,160
Speaker 1: sort of room that a vampire would want to find

1051
00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:46,080
Speaker 1: itself in. That's very astute. I think that is exactly

1052
00:59:46,080 --> 00:59:48,760
Speaker 1: what they're going for. So this guy's toast right, like

1053
00:59:48,840 --> 00:59:51,640
Speaker 1: there's just no way out. Of course, they're gonna drain him.

1054
00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:53,880
Speaker 1: I mean it's like this club has I don't know,

1055
00:59:54,040 --> 00:59:56,360
Speaker 1: one or maybe a few humans in it, and then

1056
00:59:56,920 --> 00:59:59,600
Speaker 1: five hundred vampires. I mean it's not a good ratio.

1057
01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:03,360
Speaker 1: Um So the guys crawling away in terror, slashing through

1058
01:00:03,360 --> 01:00:05,840
Speaker 1: the blood until he like crawls up on a big

1059
01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:08,440
Speaker 1: steel toed boot and you see the bottom of a

1060
01:00:08,560 --> 01:00:13,680
Speaker 1: long black leather coat flapping. What Who's this? Immediately the

1061
01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:16,840
Speaker 1: crowd panics, They're like, that's him, It's the day Walker.

1062
01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:20,720
Speaker 1: And then fight Fight, Fight Blade is here. Wesley Snipes

1063
01:00:20,840 --> 01:00:24,960
Speaker 1: looks awesome. He's got the sunglasses indoors, he's got the

1064
01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:27,200
Speaker 1: you know, lots of black leather, he's got the body

1065
01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:31,280
Speaker 1: armor on. He's got the Vampire Hunter Batman utility belt.

1066
01:00:31,320 --> 01:00:34,200
Speaker 1: So I think he's got a shotgun that shoots silver

1067
01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:37,480
Speaker 1: and when it hits the vampires, they dissolve into gray

1068
01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:40,360
Speaker 1: and orange. C g I ash. And then he's got

1069
01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:43,560
Speaker 1: little silver steaks, and he's got a katana that I

1070
01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:46,000
Speaker 1: guess must have silver in it. And he's got some

1071
01:00:46,080 --> 01:00:49,400
Speaker 1: kind of boomerang made out of silver lasers. I think

1072
01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:53,080
Speaker 1: he can throw like bombs of garlic sauce, and he

1073
01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:56,320
Speaker 1: of course does martial arts. So he's he's just unloading

1074
01:00:57,080 --> 01:00:59,720
Speaker 1: all of all of the fighting skills on this club

1075
01:00:59,760 --> 01:01:03,600
Speaker 1: full of monsters. It just tears into them and it's marvelous.

1076
01:01:03,640 --> 01:01:06,320
Speaker 1: There was a really funny part where a vampire grabs

1077
01:01:06,360 --> 01:01:08,920
Speaker 1: two meat hooks off the wall that looked like they're

1078
01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:12,440
Speaker 1: there for decoration, I guess because his meatpacking district or something,

1079
01:01:12,440 --> 01:01:16,200
Speaker 1: and then runs at Blades swinging the swinging the meat

1080
01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:20,000
Speaker 1: hooks like nun chucks. Yeah, it takes him out, but

1081
01:01:20,080 --> 01:01:23,480
Speaker 1: then donal Loge comes out. This is our vampire, Quinn.

1082
01:01:23,840 --> 01:01:26,600
Speaker 1: He's got a like big red beard and he's he's

1083
01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:29,440
Speaker 1: he's got a bunch of goons with sunglasses and he's like,

1084
01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:32,240
Speaker 1: that's him. Get him. We're gonna jack you up and

1085
01:01:32,320 --> 01:01:36,840
Speaker 1: make him hurt bad. And so you get a big

1086
01:01:36,880 --> 01:01:39,200
Speaker 1: fight scene, a bunch of waves of dudes in in

1087
01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:42,760
Speaker 1: very distinctive late nineties bad guy outfits. So it's all

1088
01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:47,600
Speaker 1: black clothes, sunglasses inside finger gloves, black wool caps that

1089
01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:50,440
Speaker 1: kind of look. Of course, Blade beats them all. Then

1090
01:01:50,480 --> 01:01:53,240
Speaker 1: he pins donal Loge to the wall with spikes and

1091
01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:56,720
Speaker 1: uh uh and Quinn here he seems to be speaking

1092
01:01:56,840 --> 01:01:59,560
Speaker 1: some ancient language I think there's a there's a vampire

1093
01:01:59,720 --> 01:02:02,800
Speaker 1: lang Widge in this movie. Yeah and yeah. That part

1094
01:02:02,800 --> 01:02:06,880
Speaker 1: of the plot ends up revolving around vampire runes and

1095
01:02:07,040 --> 01:02:11,000
Speaker 1: glyphs that can't quite be deciphered and so forth. But

1096
01:02:11,080 --> 01:02:13,200
Speaker 1: Blade tells him, Okay, I'm tired of He says, I'm

1097
01:02:13,240 --> 01:02:15,600
Speaker 1: tired of chopping you up. This time, I'll try fire,

1098
01:02:15,680 --> 01:02:18,440
Speaker 1: and he sets the vampire on fire, and then police

1099
01:02:18,440 --> 01:02:22,520
Speaker 1: show up. Blade quickly checks the party guy for bite marks.

1100
01:02:22,560 --> 01:02:24,920
Speaker 1: He has none, so he lets him go. Then Blade

1101
01:02:24,920 --> 01:02:28,920
Speaker 1: disappears and we cut straight to the hospital where Quinn's

1102
01:02:29,400 --> 01:02:32,800
Speaker 1: charred cadaver has arrived. There like oh, chard cadaver for you,

1103
01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:35,680
Speaker 1: and so here we're about to meet a major character,

1104
01:02:35,840 --> 01:02:40,440
Speaker 1: the hematologist Karen Jensen played by and Bouche Wright and

1105
01:02:40,760 --> 01:02:44,120
Speaker 1: uh some of so at first we have her and

1106
01:02:44,240 --> 01:02:47,200
Speaker 1: some other doctor or pathologist. I don't remember the character's name,

1107
01:02:47,240 --> 01:02:50,280
Speaker 1: but uh, my main thing about this other guy is,

1108
01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:53,360
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, this guy just does not look like a doctor.

1109
01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:55,440
Speaker 1: I know a doctor can look like anything, but this

1110
01:02:55,440 --> 01:02:58,200
Speaker 1: guy looks like he's in a Beatles cover band. He

1111
01:02:58,280 --> 01:03:02,240
Speaker 1: has a floppy like Paul my Cartney mop cut. He

1112
01:03:02,360 --> 01:03:04,640
Speaker 1: just I don't buy it. He does seem like a

1113
01:03:04,640 --> 01:03:08,880
Speaker 1: pretty useless character at the time, but it becomes it

1114
01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:11,360
Speaker 1: becomes clear that it's an economic choice later on in

1115
01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:15,920
Speaker 1: the picture. Yes, um so, uh so. Anyway, so he

1116
01:03:15,960 --> 01:03:18,560
Speaker 1: and he and Karen are talking and she's analyzing the

1117
01:03:18,600 --> 01:03:21,920
Speaker 1: blood sample from the cadaver and things are not adding up.

1118
01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:25,120
Speaker 1: She seems skeptical that the blood she's looking at actually

1119
01:03:25,160 --> 01:03:27,560
Speaker 1: came out of a dead person, and she says, the

1120
01:03:27,600 --> 01:03:32,440
Speaker 1: red blood cells are by convex, which is impossible a

1121
01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:34,840
Speaker 1: little bit of monster science. I did some digging on this.

1122
01:03:34,960 --> 01:03:39,000
Speaker 1: Red blood cells are in fact normally by concave, meaning

1123
01:03:39,040 --> 01:03:41,080
Speaker 1: there's a little dip in the middle of the disk,

1124
01:03:41,360 --> 01:03:45,000
Speaker 1: like a like a bally. A biconvex red blood cell

1125
01:03:45,040 --> 01:03:47,280
Speaker 1: would be one that bulged out in the middle on

1126
01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:51,200
Speaker 1: both sides, really making it more like a sphere. And

1127
01:03:51,240 --> 01:03:54,760
Speaker 1: there are in fact medical conditions that cause red blood

1128
01:03:54,760 --> 01:03:57,960
Speaker 1: cells to become shaped more like a sphere. These are

1129
01:03:58,000 --> 01:04:04,560
Speaker 1: known as ferocytosis. People with spirocytosis often experience u hemolytic anemia,

1130
01:04:04,640 --> 01:04:08,320
Speaker 1: which is where the spleen mistakes these spherical red blood

1131
01:04:08,360 --> 01:04:12,440
Speaker 1: cells for damage to dead cells and then destroys them,

1132
01:04:12,560 --> 01:04:15,000
Speaker 1: leading to the problem that that the body is constantly

1133
01:04:15,040 --> 01:04:18,840
Speaker 1: attacking and eliminating its own blood supply. Now, this may

1134
01:04:18,840 --> 01:04:21,400
Speaker 1: be fleshed out more in the in the comics or

1135
01:04:21,440 --> 01:04:24,680
Speaker 1: the Blade lore, but I feel like this is a

1136
01:04:24,760 --> 01:04:27,640
Speaker 1: bit of physiology in the movie that they don't go

1137
01:04:27,680 --> 01:04:30,040
Speaker 1: into great detail about. But it really fits pretty well

1138
01:04:30,040 --> 01:04:33,320
Speaker 1: with the vampire mythos, like the vampires have a condition

1139
01:04:33,400 --> 01:04:36,920
Speaker 1: where their bodies are constantly destroying their own blood supply

1140
01:04:37,000 --> 01:04:40,680
Speaker 1: and they must replenish it. Fascinating. Yeah, somebody did their homework, man,

1141
01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:43,640
Speaker 1: you know, maybe Goya or maybe somebody else. Anyway, Dr

1142
01:04:43,720 --> 01:04:46,760
Speaker 1: Jensen uh and this other doctor talk and he's like,

1143
01:04:46,840 --> 01:04:50,320
Speaker 1: come look at this body. It's weird, and she's she says,

1144
01:04:50,360 --> 01:04:52,720
Speaker 1: I thought you promised to give me some distance. So

1145
01:04:52,760 --> 01:04:55,800
Speaker 1: they clearly have a romantic history, but it's all over now,

1146
01:04:56,240 --> 01:04:58,520
Speaker 1: and he's like, no funny business. I just want you

1147
01:04:58,560 --> 01:05:01,400
Speaker 1: to come to the morgue with me. Uh. So, you know,

1148
01:05:01,480 --> 01:05:04,840
Speaker 1: they go and investigate the body. She notices, Wow, the

1149
01:05:04,880 --> 01:05:07,760
Speaker 1: maxilla looks a little deformed, the maxillos the upper jaw,

1150
01:05:08,120 --> 01:05:11,080
Speaker 1: and she's like, there's some odd muscle structure around the canines.

1151
01:05:11,480 --> 01:05:15,400
Speaker 1: They're cutting this charred body with fangs open, and then

1152
01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:17,160
Speaker 1: the guy is in fact, he's like, hey, want to

1153
01:05:17,160 --> 01:05:20,800
Speaker 1: get back together, and they argue about that for a minute,

1154
01:05:20,960 --> 01:05:24,560
Speaker 1: and then just sudden, vampening the Crispy Donald, pops up.

1155
01:05:24,920 --> 01:05:28,040
Speaker 1: He kills the dude, he bites Karen. You think he's

1156
01:05:28,040 --> 01:05:29,920
Speaker 1: gonna kill her too, You think she's done for But

1157
01:05:29,960 --> 01:05:33,000
Speaker 1: then suddenly here's Blade in the hospital and he's like,

1158
01:05:33,080 --> 01:05:36,160
Speaker 1: I came back to finish you off. Uh. And there's

1159
01:05:36,160 --> 01:05:38,720
Speaker 1: a brief fight, which is funny because the crispy vampire

1160
01:05:38,760 --> 01:05:41,920
Speaker 1: is obviously very slippery and sliding around, which is gross.

1161
01:05:42,400 --> 01:05:45,000
Speaker 1: But the police show up and shoot Blade a bunch

1162
01:05:45,040 --> 01:05:47,880
Speaker 1: of times, and he just yells at them in a

1163
01:05:48,160 --> 01:05:52,800
Speaker 1: moment that's quite hilarious. He says yeah um, and then

1164
01:05:52,880 --> 01:05:56,000
Speaker 1: Blade cuts the vampire's arm off, but the vampire escapes,

1165
01:05:56,120 --> 01:05:59,240
Speaker 1: jumping out a window, running off into an alleyway. He

1166
01:05:59,360 --> 01:06:03,160
Speaker 1: snarkles like a puma. And then Karen's down on the

1167
01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:06,080
Speaker 1: hospital floor. She's gasping for help, and Blades about to

1168
01:06:06,080 --> 01:06:09,120
Speaker 1: walk away at first, but then he, you know, he's

1169
01:06:09,120 --> 01:06:11,600
Speaker 1: sort of he has a moment of compassion and he

1170
01:06:11,640 --> 01:06:13,720
Speaker 1: picks her up and takes her with him, and the

1171
01:06:13,760 --> 01:06:16,560
Speaker 1: cops give chase. They shoot Blade like a hundred times,

1172
01:06:16,600 --> 01:06:18,840
Speaker 1: but he's fine, he's got the armor on, he's all,

1173
01:06:18,920 --> 01:06:21,920
Speaker 1: you know, he's great. Uh. And then Blade jumps across

1174
01:06:22,040 --> 01:06:25,000
Speaker 1: the sky to the roof of another building, and then

1175
01:06:25,040 --> 01:06:27,960
Speaker 1: they escape in the Blade Mobile, which is great. Blade

1176
01:06:28,080 --> 01:06:32,000
Speaker 1: drives like a sick muscle car. They get back to

1177
01:06:32,200 --> 01:06:36,200
Speaker 1: the hideout, the Fortress of Blatitude, and it's in some

1178
01:06:36,280 --> 01:06:39,400
Speaker 1: abandoned industrial park. You know, there's pipes and chains and

1179
01:06:39,440 --> 01:06:43,040
Speaker 1: catwalks everywhere. That's another late nineties action movie thing you

1180
01:06:43,120 --> 01:06:47,560
Speaker 1: gotta have, like industrial building. It takes place in somewhere

1181
01:06:47,560 --> 01:06:50,560
Speaker 1: that used to be a factory. There's catwalks galore. We

1182
01:06:50,600 --> 01:06:54,040
Speaker 1: hear Credence Clearwater Revival playing it's Bad Moon Rising, of course,

1183
01:06:54,040 --> 01:06:58,480
Speaker 1: and we meet Whistler. Here's Chris Christofferson, who's got glorious

1184
01:06:58,520 --> 01:07:01,600
Speaker 1: long white hair and a beer to match. Whistler is

1185
01:07:01,680 --> 01:07:04,400
Speaker 1: like a rock and roll Santa Claus or like a

1186
01:07:04,520 --> 01:07:09,640
Speaker 1: rogue biker grandpa. And he's like, oh, you're bringing home

1187
01:07:09,720 --> 01:07:13,120
Speaker 1: strays now. You should have killed her, and Blade says, yeah,

1188
01:07:13,160 --> 01:07:17,120
Speaker 1: I know, but I didn't. Uh. And uh So they decide, well, okay,

1189
01:07:17,160 --> 01:07:20,040
Speaker 1: we'll watch her. We'll see if she turns or see

1190
01:07:20,080 --> 01:07:23,439
Speaker 1: if we can treat her. And they give her to

1191
01:07:23,480 --> 01:07:25,840
Speaker 1: try to treat her vampire bite. They give her an

1192
01:07:25,920 --> 01:07:29,760
Speaker 1: injection of garlic juice which is straight go straight into

1193
01:07:29,800 --> 01:07:32,840
Speaker 1: the neck. It's supposed to stave off the transformation or

1194
01:07:32,880 --> 01:07:34,920
Speaker 1: slow it down or something. And when they give her

1195
01:07:34,960 --> 01:07:37,440
Speaker 1: the injection, you see puffs of smoke coming out of

1196
01:07:37,440 --> 01:07:40,440
Speaker 1: the holes in her neck. After this, well, we we

1197
01:07:40,480 --> 01:07:42,840
Speaker 1: do get a scene at the vampire it's like a bank,

1198
01:07:43,160 --> 01:07:45,360
Speaker 1: you know, where the vampires hang out. It's the corporate

1199
01:07:45,400 --> 01:07:48,720
Speaker 1: board of vampire dum uh rob, How would you describe

1200
01:07:48,760 --> 01:07:52,600
Speaker 1: this scene? Oh, it's like a dark gothic crypt of

1201
01:07:52,600 --> 01:07:58,160
Speaker 1: a meeting room occupied by various again scary looking vampire lords,

1202
01:07:59,080 --> 01:08:02,280
Speaker 1: very you know, very egal in their own ways. Clearly

1203
01:08:02,320 --> 01:08:04,360
Speaker 1: they're going for like this feeling of like these are different,

1204
01:08:04,920 --> 01:08:09,840
Speaker 1: uh you know, from different lineages of the vampire history.

1205
01:08:10,360 --> 01:08:12,960
Speaker 1: But again we find out that they are all completely

1206
01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:16,639
Speaker 1: inapt and utterly harmless right there. All they do they

1207
01:08:16,760 --> 01:08:19,960
Speaker 1: gather here to discuss the things they're afraid of. Their

1208
01:08:20,000 --> 01:08:24,320
Speaker 1: Like Judo Kier says, Blade it's a day walker. You know,

1209
01:08:24,400 --> 01:08:27,880
Speaker 1: he's still pursuing this ridiculous crusade against us, And then

1210
01:08:27,880 --> 01:08:30,479
Speaker 1: they invited Deacon Frost to tell him that he's a

1211
01:08:30,520 --> 01:08:33,240
Speaker 1: loose canon deacon. Again, this is Stephen dor If. He's

1212
01:08:33,280 --> 01:08:37,400
Speaker 1: the young, hip, good looking bad boy vampire. Uh, he's

1213
01:08:37,439 --> 01:08:40,800
Speaker 1: not like these buttoned up square vampires. And they're like,

1214
01:08:40,880 --> 01:08:44,040
Speaker 1: you know, you're you're a loose cannon because there is

1215
01:08:44,080 --> 01:08:47,599
Speaker 1: a treaty that I think should prevent vampires from gathering

1216
01:08:47,600 --> 01:08:52,840
Speaker 1: in large numbers, and Frost runs nightclubs that violate this treaty,

1217
01:08:52,920 --> 01:08:55,519
Speaker 1: and they say, like, human politicians could make things very

1218
01:08:55,520 --> 01:08:58,120
Speaker 1: difficult for our kind if they found out about us,

1219
01:08:58,640 --> 01:09:03,240
Speaker 1: And I was like, I don't know what they Yeah,

1220
01:09:03,280 --> 01:09:06,840
Speaker 1: what would that look like? Frost thinks the vampires are

1221
01:09:06,840 --> 01:09:10,120
Speaker 1: being too timid. He's like, hey, humans are food that

1222
01:09:10,200 --> 01:09:13,320
Speaker 1: you know, we should rule them, not hide from them. Yeah,

1223
01:09:13,360 --> 01:09:15,960
Speaker 1: and again yeah, they're very timid. Uh. Well again. One

1224
01:09:15,960 --> 01:09:18,360
Speaker 1: of the big positive steps that del Toro makes him

1225
01:09:18,360 --> 01:09:21,960
Speaker 1: Blade Too is making sure that old vampires are scary.

1226
01:09:22,200 --> 01:09:26,599
Speaker 1: Old vampires are inhuman and monstrous, and they have not

1227
01:09:26,640 --> 01:09:29,680
Speaker 1: only are they scary, but they have scary plans and

1228
01:09:29,760 --> 01:09:33,439
Speaker 1: Blade one, Yeah, they're just smug and complacent, right, and

1229
01:09:33,479 --> 01:09:36,160
Speaker 1: they mock Frost by saying, like, oh, you're not even

1230
01:09:36,680 --> 01:09:40,080
Speaker 1: a pure blood vampire. I think the distinction is that

1231
01:09:40,160 --> 01:09:45,080
Speaker 1: they were born vampires to vampire parents, and Frost was

1232
01:09:45,160 --> 01:09:47,680
Speaker 1: just bitten and turned by someone and they sort of

1233
01:09:47,760 --> 01:09:50,240
Speaker 1: disdain him for that. Yeah, and this is this is

1234
01:09:50,280 --> 01:09:52,320
Speaker 1: the moment where you're just kind of left to imagine

1235
01:09:52,360 --> 01:09:57,599
Speaker 1: this for yourself, the idea of vampire mother's giving birth

1236
01:09:58,000 --> 01:10:02,240
Speaker 1: to baby vampires like Bokire was once a vampire baby

1237
01:10:02,360 --> 01:10:04,960
Speaker 1: Udo Kier and we just have to to briefly imagine

1238
01:10:05,000 --> 01:10:07,880
Speaker 1: what that consists of what that was like, did he

1239
01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:14,360
Speaker 1: drink blood as a baby out of a bottle? Okay?

1240
01:10:14,360 --> 01:10:17,080
Speaker 1: So then we go back and visit our heroes again.

1241
01:10:17,280 --> 01:10:21,679
Speaker 1: Frost uh Um. Blade visits like an apothecary shop where

1242
01:10:21,720 --> 01:10:24,479
Speaker 1: he buys I don't know his regular doses of like

1243
01:10:24,640 --> 01:10:27,680
Speaker 1: essence of garlic, and then he also gets a serum

1244
01:10:27,720 --> 01:10:31,760
Speaker 1: which he uses to stave off I don't know he

1245
01:10:32,080 --> 01:10:34,200
Speaker 1: Basically the deal is we will find this out in

1246
01:10:34,240 --> 01:10:37,240
Speaker 1: more detail later, but Blade is like half of a vampire.

1247
01:10:37,320 --> 01:10:40,599
Speaker 1: He's got some vampire characteristics but not others. He can

1248
01:10:40,600 --> 01:10:43,120
Speaker 1: go out in the daytime and all that, but he

1249
01:10:43,160 --> 01:10:45,599
Speaker 1: does need blood and he's like, well, I'm good now,

1250
01:10:45,640 --> 01:10:47,400
Speaker 1: so I can't drink people's blood, so I've got to

1251
01:10:47,439 --> 01:10:51,160
Speaker 1: get injections of this serum whatever this is. And there's

1252
01:10:51,280 --> 01:10:54,360
Speaker 1: there's generally concerned in the movie, Like we hear from

1253
01:10:54,360 --> 01:10:57,519
Speaker 1: Whistler that, uh, he's building up a tolerance for the

1254
01:10:57,560 --> 01:10:59,760
Speaker 1: serum and it's not working as well as it used

1255
01:10:59,800 --> 01:11:03,200
Speaker 1: to and he's got to find a solution. Meanwhile, Karen,

1256
01:11:03,280 --> 01:11:06,520
Speaker 1: who the hematologists who they brought back, she like witnesses

1257
01:11:06,560 --> 01:11:08,960
Speaker 1: them talking about all this and witnesses Blade getting a

1258
01:11:09,000 --> 01:11:13,439
Speaker 1: dose of his serum. Uh and finally uh, and she's

1259
01:11:13,439 --> 01:11:15,599
Speaker 1: a little bit freaked out, but finally like they explain

1260
01:11:15,680 --> 01:11:19,760
Speaker 1: everything to her. Whistler introduces himself. His name is Abraham Whistler.

1261
01:11:19,760 --> 01:11:22,519
Speaker 1: Of course. Uh. This is the scene where he's lighting

1262
01:11:22,520 --> 01:11:25,240
Speaker 1: a cigarette while he's pumping gas into the Blade mobile

1263
01:11:25,840 --> 01:11:28,439
Speaker 1: and Whistler kind of gives her like a vampires one

1264
01:11:28,439 --> 01:11:32,600
Speaker 1: oh one. It's like they're called hominous nocturna And we

1265
01:11:32,640 --> 01:11:35,519
Speaker 1: find a Whistler and Blade hunt them. They follow their movements.

1266
01:11:35,560 --> 01:11:38,679
Speaker 1: They go from city to city and she says, oh,

1267
01:11:38,760 --> 01:11:42,240
Speaker 1: so do you use crosses? And they say, no, crosses

1268
01:11:42,320 --> 01:11:44,840
Speaker 1: do not work. They're very pointed about this. They say

1269
01:11:44,880 --> 01:11:49,440
Speaker 1: vampires are allergic to silver and garlic into sunlight, specifically

1270
01:11:49,560 --> 01:11:52,479
Speaker 1: U V rays. By the way, Whistler has rigged up

1271
01:11:52,520 --> 01:11:55,040
Speaker 1: a UV flashlight that I guess they can shine at

1272
01:11:55,120 --> 01:11:57,840
Speaker 1: vampires to hurt them. And though one of the one

1273
01:11:57,880 --> 01:12:00,320
Speaker 1: thing in this movie is that apparently vampires are fine

1274
01:12:00,400 --> 01:12:02,920
Speaker 1: going out in the daytime if they just put sunscreen on.

1275
01:12:03,160 --> 01:12:05,280
Speaker 1: This is literally a plot point, and I'm like, why

1276
01:12:05,280 --> 01:12:07,519
Speaker 1: don't they just do that all the time? Then, um,

1277
01:12:07,640 --> 01:12:10,920
Speaker 1: I guess it's a lot of sunscreens oily. You know. Yeah, well,

1278
01:12:10,960 --> 01:12:12,679
Speaker 1: I know I know that I don't like the feeling

1279
01:12:12,680 --> 01:12:15,160
Speaker 1: of sunscreen either, but I mean, if you're the other

1280
01:12:15,200 --> 01:12:19,719
Speaker 1: option is a responsible thing to do. Yeah, yeah. But anyway,

1281
01:12:19,800 --> 01:12:21,840
Speaker 1: so they explained to Karen, They're like, look, you gotta

1282
01:12:21,840 --> 01:12:23,640
Speaker 1: get out of town. Now that you've been exposed to

1283
01:12:23,680 --> 01:12:26,000
Speaker 1: the vampires. They're gonna be on the hunt for you.

1284
01:12:26,680 --> 01:12:28,920
Speaker 1: And she thinks she can go to the police, but nope,

1285
01:12:29,000 --> 01:12:34,120
Speaker 1: vampires owned the police apparently, and Whistler gives her vampire mace,

1286
01:12:34,240 --> 01:12:37,360
Speaker 1: which is a spray canister of garlic and colloidal silver.

1287
01:12:38,080 --> 01:12:39,960
Speaker 1: So she's I think she's going to go off and

1288
01:12:40,000 --> 01:12:41,879
Speaker 1: do her own thing. Oh and then in the meantime,

1289
01:12:41,920 --> 01:12:45,320
Speaker 1: we get a really funny scene with Udo Kier and Frost,

1290
01:12:45,400 --> 01:12:48,600
Speaker 1: where like Udo Kier goes into the I don't know,

1291
01:12:48,680 --> 01:12:52,960
Speaker 1: the Vampire computer Bank the archives, I guess, and he

1292
01:12:53,040 --> 01:12:54,840
Speaker 1: walks in and Frost is in there with like a

1293
01:12:54,960 --> 01:12:58,080
Speaker 1: laptop running doing all kind of weird AI stuff on

1294
01:12:58,200 --> 01:13:01,599
Speaker 1: these like glyphs and indea, and he's like, you're using

1295
01:13:01,600 --> 01:13:04,720
Speaker 1: a computer to decipher the ancient text, you fool. The

1296
01:13:04,760 --> 01:13:08,520
Speaker 1: ancient text can never be translated. You wouldn't even understand them.

1297
01:13:08,560 --> 01:13:14,400
Speaker 1: And Frost is just petulantly like yeah uh. And then

1298
01:13:14,439 --> 01:13:16,760
Speaker 1: there I think one of the does does Udo Kier

1299
01:13:16,920 --> 01:13:19,960
Speaker 1: slap Frost in the face? Oh yeah, yeah, this is

1300
01:13:20,080 --> 01:13:22,080
Speaker 1: not at least you know that they create the effect

1301
01:13:22,080 --> 01:13:24,320
Speaker 1: of him just really slapping the heck out of him,

1302
01:13:24,360 --> 01:13:27,519
Speaker 1: and and Udo has like all the veins and his

1303
01:13:27,720 --> 01:13:31,240
Speaker 1: head bulging after he does it. It's it's it's very nice.

1304
01:13:31,280 --> 01:13:34,679
Speaker 1: It's a good slap. But then Blade drops Karen off

1305
01:13:34,680 --> 01:13:37,200
Speaker 1: in the city and he is a reckless driver. He

1306
01:13:37,360 --> 01:13:42,080
Speaker 1: is not he is not respecting pedestrians. Um, so she

1307
01:13:42,120 --> 01:13:44,360
Speaker 1: goes into her building, and then there's a scene. I

1308
01:13:44,439 --> 01:13:46,400
Speaker 1: thought it was very cool because you know, he's like,

1309
01:13:46,479 --> 01:13:49,160
Speaker 1: keep your eyes open, but she's like, but it's the daytime.

1310
01:13:49,160 --> 01:13:51,519
Speaker 1: Shouldn't I be safe now at least? But she goes

1311
01:13:51,560 --> 01:13:54,240
Speaker 1: into her building and then she gets into the elevator

1312
01:13:55,000 --> 01:13:57,880
Speaker 1: and she notices that there are people in the elevator

1313
01:13:57,920 --> 01:14:00,400
Speaker 1: who have these weird tattoos on the back of their next,

1314
01:14:00,479 --> 01:14:04,439
Speaker 1: these little square glyphs. Uh. And I really liked this scene.

1315
01:14:04,479 --> 01:14:06,640
Speaker 1: I think I remember this scene from way back when

1316
01:14:06,680 --> 01:14:08,519
Speaker 1: I watched it in the day. I was like, oh, wow,

1317
01:14:08,560 --> 01:14:10,559
Speaker 1: it's a big conspiracy, you know, It's like there are

1318
01:14:10,640 --> 01:14:13,000
Speaker 1: humans who are in on it. Of course, we find

1319
01:14:13,000 --> 01:14:15,040
Speaker 1: out that the humans with the glyphs on their necks

1320
01:14:15,040 --> 01:14:19,280
Speaker 1: are vampire familiars, like they belong to a particular vampire

1321
01:14:19,360 --> 01:14:21,559
Speaker 1: and they do work for them during the daytime or

1322
01:14:21,600 --> 01:14:24,840
Speaker 1: in other you know, other things vampires can't do, and

1323
01:14:25,160 --> 01:14:27,760
Speaker 1: they're hoping that if they are a good familiar, the

1324
01:14:27,840 --> 01:14:32,160
Speaker 1: vampire will they're there, they're they're appointed vampire will eventually

1325
01:14:32,200 --> 01:14:34,599
Speaker 1: turn them, which is a major theme also in what

1326
01:14:34,640 --> 01:14:37,040
Speaker 1: we do in The Shadows. Yeah, yeah, this is this

1327
01:14:37,080 --> 01:14:40,000
Speaker 1: is classic vamp stuff. I mean I guess I was

1328
01:14:40,040 --> 01:14:41,640
Speaker 1: this was this a deal that was in place in

1329
01:14:41,720 --> 01:14:46,120
Speaker 1: Dracula between Rinfield and uh his lordship. I do not

1330
01:14:46,280 --> 01:14:49,720
Speaker 1: recall what was in it for Renfield. I mean he

1331
01:14:49,760 --> 01:14:54,040
Speaker 1: was in it for the bugs and the glory. Uh yeah,

1332
01:14:54,120 --> 01:14:56,800
Speaker 1: but uh, beyond that, I don't remember if there was

1333
01:14:56,800 --> 01:14:59,840
Speaker 1: any because it's it's become such a frequent trope although

1334
01:14:59,840 --> 01:15:03,360
Speaker 1: they empire familiar relationship and fiction that I honestly can't

1335
01:15:03,360 --> 01:15:05,880
Speaker 1: remember if it's in Dracula or not. Yeah, I couldn't say.

1336
01:15:05,920 --> 01:15:08,880
Speaker 1: Well so anyway, So Karen goes back to her apartment. Um,

1337
01:15:09,040 --> 01:15:11,559
Speaker 1: she gets a visit from a police officer. He's like, Hi,

1338
01:15:11,680 --> 01:15:14,880
Speaker 1: I'm Officer Krieger. For a second, I thought this guy

1339
01:15:14,960 --> 01:15:17,559
Speaker 1: was Matthew Perry from Friends, But no, it's not. It's

1340
01:15:17,560 --> 01:15:19,639
Speaker 1: just a guy who kind of looks like him. Uh.

1341
01:15:19,840 --> 01:15:22,439
Speaker 1: This is also I thought a great scene. UH can

1342
01:15:22,560 --> 01:15:26,120
Speaker 1: probably describe what happens here. I mean, basically, he has

1343
01:15:26,160 --> 01:15:29,040
Speaker 1: a it seems like he has a plausible story. He's like,

1344
01:15:29,240 --> 01:15:32,040
Speaker 1: your front door was open, your coworker said you're missing.

1345
01:15:32,160 --> 01:15:34,639
Speaker 1: You were kidnapps, So I'm just checking in on you.

1346
01:15:35,320 --> 01:15:39,160
Speaker 1: And then it becomes that were quickly realized, oh, this

1347
01:15:39,200 --> 01:15:41,280
Speaker 1: guy is also a familiar. He's here, he's up to

1348
01:15:41,280 --> 01:15:44,360
Speaker 1: no good. But then Blade shows up and proceeds to

1349
01:15:44,479 --> 01:15:46,960
Speaker 1: beat the crap out of this cop for like six

1350
01:15:47,040 --> 01:15:50,760
Speaker 1: solid minutes of film time. Yes. Uh, and he's like,

1351
01:15:50,840 --> 01:15:53,839
Speaker 1: you work for this Glyph says, you belong to Deacon Frost.

1352
01:15:54,160 --> 01:15:57,080
Speaker 1: We've been tracking Frost for a long time. Uh. And

1353
01:15:57,120 --> 01:16:00,280
Speaker 1: they find out that this cop is transporting blow for

1354
01:16:00,360 --> 01:16:03,640
Speaker 1: a vampire owned blood bank, which that was an l

1355
01:16:03,680 --> 01:16:05,639
Speaker 1: O L moment for me. It was like, oh my god,

1356
01:16:05,680 --> 01:16:09,120
Speaker 1: the vampire's own blood banks. Brilliant. Of course they did. Yeah,

1357
01:16:09,120 --> 01:16:11,280
Speaker 1: they're involved in everything, and of course they're gonna I

1358
01:16:11,400 --> 01:16:13,360
Speaker 1: own the blood banks, and I love how. In the

1359
01:16:13,360 --> 01:16:16,479
Speaker 1: scene right after this, Blade gets away with beating up

1360
01:16:16,520 --> 01:16:22,599
Speaker 1: a uniformed police officer in the streets and nobody cares. Um.

1361
01:16:22,760 --> 01:16:25,160
Speaker 1: But then the cop gets away, like he runs off

1362
01:16:25,479 --> 01:16:28,120
Speaker 1: and um, and Karen's a little upset that she was

1363
01:16:28,200 --> 01:16:30,639
Speaker 1: used as bait, but she decides, well, okay, at this point,

1364
01:16:30,640 --> 01:16:32,439
Speaker 1: I just gotta stick with Blade. It's the only way

1365
01:16:32,439 --> 01:16:34,479
Speaker 1: I'm gonna survive long enough to find a cure for

1366
01:16:34,520 --> 01:16:39,800
Speaker 1: a vampire bite. So they stake out the familiars police car,

1367
01:16:39,960 --> 01:16:42,000
Speaker 1: and then when he finally comes back, they tail him

1368
01:16:42,040 --> 01:16:46,519
Speaker 1: to a vampire club and there's uh uh, there's a

1369
01:16:46,560 --> 01:16:49,320
Speaker 1: great part where Frost like he goes into the club

1370
01:16:49,360 --> 01:16:52,160
Speaker 1: after him because they're trying to find the I don't

1371
01:16:52,160 --> 01:16:54,479
Speaker 1: know the archives or the secret place, and he's like,

1372
01:16:54,520 --> 01:16:57,000
Speaker 1: give Frost a message from me, tell him it's open

1373
01:16:57,080 --> 01:17:02,080
Speaker 1: season on all suckheads. So was that line in the

1374
01:17:02,120 --> 01:17:05,200
Speaker 1: script or did did did Snipes make that up? I

1375
01:17:05,240 --> 01:17:09,000
Speaker 1: don't know. I vaguely remember there being some ad libs.

1376
01:17:09,040 --> 01:17:12,120
Speaker 1: I think maybe some of the more famous bladisms are

1377
01:17:12,320 --> 01:17:15,760
Speaker 1: the creation of of Snipes himself, So I'm not sure.

1378
01:17:24,840 --> 01:17:28,440
Speaker 1: So meanwhile, Frost is throwing a party in his penthouse,

1379
01:17:28,479 --> 01:17:32,040
Speaker 1: but he's not partying. He's busy translating the ancient texts

1380
01:17:32,120 --> 01:17:34,479
Speaker 1: like Udo Kier told him not to do. So he's

1381
01:17:34,520 --> 01:17:39,479
Speaker 1: got his Apple laptop really really burning the cpu. Uh

1382
01:17:39,520 --> 01:17:43,719
Speaker 1: and it finally finishes translating and the translation. I didn't

1383
01:17:43,800 --> 01:17:45,960
Speaker 1: understand how this would work at all, but the translation

1384
01:17:46,000 --> 01:17:52,320
Speaker 1: appears to somehow construct a virtual reality environment of like

1385
01:17:52,400 --> 01:17:56,559
Speaker 1: a machine that would be used in a vampire ritual. Well,

1386
01:17:56,680 --> 01:17:59,479
Speaker 1: vampires at the day had access to those those really

1387
01:17:59,520 --> 01:18:02,439
Speaker 1: advanced MacBooks, so okay, you know they were working with

1388
01:18:02,439 --> 01:18:05,400
Speaker 1: tech that we didn't have yet. But here also we

1389
01:18:05,400 --> 01:18:08,280
Speaker 1: see Quinn is back, you know, he's regenerated, he he

1390
01:18:08,360 --> 01:18:11,040
Speaker 1: grows back the limbs, he's lost and stuff, though he

1391
01:18:11,080 --> 01:18:13,960
Speaker 1: still looks kind of nasty. And the cops shows up

1392
01:18:14,000 --> 01:18:15,960
Speaker 1: to be like, oh, I got some bad news, you know,

1393
01:18:16,040 --> 01:18:19,120
Speaker 1: Blades onto you, and then Frost just uh, Frost just

1394
01:18:19,240 --> 01:18:22,080
Speaker 1: kills the cop and they're like, okay, we gotta get

1395
01:18:22,120 --> 01:18:26,320
Speaker 1: Blade alive. So and the next scene there is uh,

1396
01:18:26,400 --> 01:18:28,720
Speaker 1: the next scene I thought was really unpleasant. There's this

1397
01:18:28,800 --> 01:18:32,120
Speaker 1: like big immobile jab of the Hut type vampire who

1398
01:18:32,200 --> 01:18:36,520
Speaker 1: they who Blade and Karen torture with a UV flashlight

1399
01:18:36,600 --> 01:18:38,600
Speaker 1: in order to get information out of him. And I

1400
01:18:38,600 --> 01:18:43,280
Speaker 1: found this scene really nasty. Yeah, because the vampire, who

1401
01:18:43,439 --> 01:18:46,400
Speaker 1: we learned its name is Pearl comes off, is really

1402
01:18:46,400 --> 01:18:48,280
Speaker 1: more to be pitied than to be blamed it so

1403
01:18:48,479 --> 01:18:50,960
Speaker 1: it really feels like kind of a mean spirited scene

1404
01:18:51,080 --> 01:18:54,759
Speaker 1: that that also doesn't really I don't know, And evidently

1405
01:18:54,800 --> 01:18:57,320
Speaker 1: they had to come and get information from somebody. This

1406
01:18:57,400 --> 01:19:00,519
Speaker 1: is a find the you know, find an informant sequence

1407
01:19:00,600 --> 01:19:03,120
Speaker 1: in the investigation. But I don't know it would have

1408
01:19:03,520 --> 01:19:05,880
Speaker 1: It seems like it would have worked better had Pearl

1409
01:19:05,960 --> 01:19:08,599
Speaker 1: been doing anything other than just setting around looking at

1410
01:19:08,600 --> 01:19:10,800
Speaker 1: a computer. And I was also like, why is he

1411
01:19:10,880 --> 01:19:14,080
Speaker 1: a different type of creature than the other vampires, Like

1412
01:19:14,120 --> 01:19:16,800
Speaker 1: we didn't we don't see any other vampires who were like,

1413
01:19:17,280 --> 01:19:20,559
Speaker 1: I don't know what whatever this type of vampire is. Yeah,

1414
01:19:20,680 --> 01:19:22,680
Speaker 1: and I mean I'm all for their being, you know,

1415
01:19:22,840 --> 01:19:27,960
Speaker 1: multiple vampire species and you know, go go go entirely

1416
01:19:28,040 --> 01:19:30,839
Speaker 1: vampire the masquerade on this business, but by all means,

1417
01:19:31,360 --> 01:19:34,240
Speaker 1: but yeah, none of it's actually explained well anyway, So

1418
01:19:34,280 --> 01:19:37,960
Speaker 1: the vampire screams about how Lamagra is coming, the spirits

1419
01:19:37,960 --> 01:19:40,719
Speaker 1: of the Twelve will awaken, will awaken the Blood God,

1420
01:19:41,439 --> 01:19:45,000
Speaker 1: and they so that they discover Blade and Karen discovered

1421
01:19:45,000 --> 01:19:47,720
Speaker 1: this back room with the Book of Erebus, which they

1422
01:19:47,720 --> 01:19:50,880
Speaker 1: call the Vampire Bible. So it's you know, they're getting

1423
01:19:50,880 --> 01:19:53,240
Speaker 1: the backstory. They're they're learning what's going on. But then

1424
01:19:53,360 --> 01:19:55,840
Speaker 1: big fight breaks out because of course Quinn is back,

1425
01:19:56,240 --> 01:19:59,280
Speaker 1: all his all his goons are there with him. Big

1426
01:19:59,320 --> 01:20:02,000
Speaker 1: fight scene, and you think Blade is actually done for

1427
01:20:02,160 --> 01:20:04,720
Speaker 1: they like, pin him down, How's he going to get

1428
01:20:04,720 --> 01:20:07,360
Speaker 1: out of this? But then it's day a sex whistler

1429
01:20:07,479 --> 01:20:11,240
Speaker 1: Chris Christofferson shows up and saves the day. Right before

1430
01:20:11,240 --> 01:20:14,639
Speaker 1: Whistler shows up, there's some great gloating from Quinn, including

1431
01:20:14,640 --> 01:20:17,040
Speaker 1: this scene where he pulls off his glove and shows

1432
01:20:17,040 --> 01:20:20,599
Speaker 1: off his mostly regenerated monster hand, which is a little

1433
01:20:20,640 --> 01:20:25,400
Speaker 1: bit floppy and grotesque. Great sequence. Another great scene for

1434
01:20:25,479 --> 01:20:29,800
Speaker 1: Quinn to shine. So this is another big action sequence

1435
01:20:29,840 --> 01:20:33,320
Speaker 1: that the fight eventually leads off into a subway tunnel

1436
01:20:33,400 --> 01:20:35,559
Speaker 1: next to a moving train, which must be like six

1437
01:20:35,640 --> 01:20:37,960
Speaker 1: miles long, by the way, because it's just constantly going

1438
01:20:38,000 --> 01:20:42,320
Speaker 1: by forever. Once again, Blade beats Quinn with Karen's help.

1439
01:20:42,400 --> 01:20:44,840
Speaker 1: This time she like stabs him with blade sword and

1440
01:20:45,000 --> 01:20:47,760
Speaker 1: helps out on the fight. And they also cut off

1441
01:20:47,760 --> 01:20:51,479
Speaker 1: the other hand this time. Yes yeah, and then Quinn

1442
01:20:51,560 --> 01:20:54,719
Speaker 1: runs away uh and they escape a Blade and Karen

1443
01:20:54,880 --> 01:20:58,000
Speaker 1: escape by hopping onto the subway train. Oh and Karen

1444
01:20:58,040 --> 01:21:00,639
Speaker 1: repays a favor from earlier. So here in the movie,

1445
01:21:00,640 --> 01:21:04,320
Speaker 1: her shoulders dislocated and Blade pops it back into place.

1446
01:21:04,600 --> 01:21:07,519
Speaker 1: In this scene, his shoulders dislocated and she pops it

1447
01:21:07,560 --> 01:21:09,600
Speaker 1: back into place. So you know, I pop and you

1448
01:21:09,680 --> 01:21:13,320
Speaker 1: pop you go. So here we get more backstory. There's

1449
01:21:13,360 --> 01:21:16,080
Speaker 1: exposition about you know, how Blade ended up the way

1450
01:21:16,120 --> 01:21:19,120
Speaker 1: he is, how Whistler gives a sermon sort of on

1451
01:21:19,160 --> 01:21:21,160
Speaker 1: how Blade works. He says, you know, I found him

1452
01:21:21,160 --> 01:21:24,120
Speaker 1: when he was thirteen. He was drinking blood. We also

1453
01:21:24,160 --> 01:21:27,479
Speaker 1: get Whistlers backstory. We learned that his family was tragically

1454
01:21:27,560 --> 01:21:30,759
Speaker 1: killed by vampires and he's been hunting vampires ever since.

1455
01:21:31,439 --> 01:21:33,439
Speaker 1: And he says, you know, we fight them, but it's

1456
01:21:33,479 --> 01:21:36,160
Speaker 1: just getting worse. There's something going on in the vampire

1457
01:21:36,280 --> 01:21:40,280
Speaker 1: ranks and and Frost is behind it. Uh So they're

1458
01:21:40,320 --> 01:21:44,160
Speaker 1: trying to understand the hidden politics within the vampire organization.

1459
01:21:45,000 --> 01:21:47,479
Speaker 1: The basic things we learned about Blade are that you know,

1460
01:21:47,600 --> 01:21:50,920
Speaker 1: he can he has some vampire attributes but not others

1461
01:21:50,960 --> 01:21:54,880
Speaker 1: because his his mother was bitten right before he was born,

1462
01:21:55,520 --> 01:21:58,920
Speaker 1: so uh so he like can go out in the daytime.

1463
01:21:59,600 --> 01:22:02,240
Speaker 1: Uh and he has the super strength of the vampire,

1464
01:22:02,320 --> 01:22:04,200
Speaker 1: so you think it's like the best of both worlds.

1465
01:22:04,640 --> 01:22:06,960
Speaker 1: But he also does need blood and that's like the

1466
01:22:07,000 --> 01:22:09,800
Speaker 1: serum problem that we learned about earlier. There was a

1467
01:22:09,880 --> 01:22:13,160
Speaker 1: very funny soul searching scene that came after this. He says, like,

1468
01:22:13,240 --> 01:22:16,439
Speaker 1: I'm not human and um and Karen says, you look

1469
01:22:16,520 --> 01:22:18,920
Speaker 1: human to me, and he says humans don't drink blood,

1470
01:22:19,360 --> 01:22:21,000
Speaker 1: and then she's like, you know that was a long

1471
01:22:21,040 --> 01:22:24,160
Speaker 1: time ago. Maybe you need to let that go. You know,

1472
01:22:24,240 --> 01:22:27,800
Speaker 1: you haven't drink blood for quite some time. So at

1473
01:22:27,800 --> 01:22:29,479
Speaker 1: this point I think, I think my summary, he's got

1474
01:22:29,479 --> 01:22:32,720
Speaker 1: to become much more cursory. Uh so, Oh, there's a

1475
01:22:32,720 --> 01:22:35,400
Speaker 1: great moment back in the vampire compound where Quinn is

1476
01:22:35,400 --> 01:22:37,640
Speaker 1: back after the fight. His face is all torn up

1477
01:22:37,640 --> 01:22:41,360
Speaker 1: because Blade held his face against the passing train. Um.

1478
01:22:41,439 --> 01:22:43,559
Speaker 1: He's also got a missing hand again, and like their

1479
01:22:43,640 --> 01:22:46,120
Speaker 1: vampire buddies there in the room or just like chewing

1480
01:22:46,200 --> 01:22:50,000
Speaker 1: on his stump and he's yeah, he's supposed to be

1481
01:22:50,040 --> 01:22:52,240
Speaker 1: banging his hand or something, and that they can't hail.

1482
01:22:52,280 --> 01:22:54,240
Speaker 1: It's like a dog, right, just has to has to

1483
01:22:54,240 --> 01:22:56,760
Speaker 1: have a bite. But they talked more about well, we

1484
01:22:56,800 --> 01:22:59,479
Speaker 1: gotta we gotta take Blade alive. Oh, and then we

1485
01:22:59,520 --> 01:23:03,080
Speaker 1: see them make moves against the Board of Directors of Vampires.

1486
01:23:03,080 --> 01:23:06,920
Speaker 1: They take Udo Kier out to the beach for execution

1487
01:23:07,000 --> 01:23:10,639
Speaker 1: by sunrise, which is has some kind of bad looking

1488
01:23:10,680 --> 01:23:13,439
Speaker 1: special effects, but I also kind of liked them. Yeah,

1489
01:23:13,680 --> 01:23:16,320
Speaker 1: it's a weird special effects sequence because it's not it

1490
01:23:16,320 --> 01:23:19,120
Speaker 1: doesn't feel completely c g I. It almost has kind

1491
01:23:19,160 --> 01:23:23,000
Speaker 1: of a stop motion quality to it. Uh, it's any

1492
01:23:23,080 --> 01:23:26,280
Speaker 1: kind of he kind of smolders, than kind of melts

1493
01:23:26,600 --> 01:23:30,479
Speaker 1: and then kind of petrifies and then explodes. So they

1494
01:23:30,560 --> 01:23:34,799
Speaker 1: fitted all in. Meanwhile, Karen has been doing some hematology science,

1495
01:23:34,840 --> 01:23:40,200
Speaker 1: so she's working on a cure for herself and for Blade. Uh.

1496
01:23:40,200 --> 01:23:42,040
Speaker 1: The Blade will end up not taking it in the

1497
01:23:42,160 --> 01:23:44,240
Speaker 1: end because it not only it would cure his need

1498
01:23:44,320 --> 01:23:46,920
Speaker 1: for blood, but it would also make him lose his superpowers,

1499
01:23:47,320 --> 01:23:49,040
Speaker 1: and in the end he's like, no, I gotta I

1500
01:23:49,040 --> 01:23:52,360
Speaker 1: gotta fight vampires, So sorry, Um. But she's able to

1501
01:23:52,400 --> 01:23:57,200
Speaker 1: cure herself and she figures out that an anticoagulant called

1502
01:23:57,280 --> 01:24:01,560
Speaker 1: E D T A uh makes vam pire blood explode.

1503
01:24:01,760 --> 01:24:04,719
Speaker 1: So she makes a bunch of injectors of this stuff

1504
01:24:05,160 --> 01:24:09,559
Speaker 1: for for Blade, and there are some glorious vampire pump

1505
01:24:09,640 --> 01:24:13,760
Speaker 1: up explosions later on. Oh, absolutely glorious. Yes, let's see.

1506
01:24:13,760 --> 01:24:15,320
Speaker 1: So a few other scenes to mention. There's a scene

1507
01:24:15,320 --> 01:24:17,559
Speaker 1: where Blade goes into the city for serum, but then

1508
01:24:17,640 --> 01:24:19,800
Speaker 1: Frost shows up like he's just standing in a park

1509
01:24:20,080 --> 01:24:23,479
Speaker 1: slathered in sun block. It is daytime, but he's got

1510
01:24:23,520 --> 01:24:26,160
Speaker 1: a human hostage, and then he gives Blade the whole

1511
01:24:26,280 --> 01:24:28,280
Speaker 1: we're not so different you and I speech. He's like,

1512
01:24:28,280 --> 01:24:31,360
Speaker 1: why don't you join us? Yeah, like you're gonna You're

1513
01:24:31,360 --> 01:24:34,880
Speaker 1: gonna make Blade switch sides. This is Blade after all.

1514
01:24:34,920 --> 01:24:37,800
Speaker 1: So Frost is totally trying to ice Skate Uphill in

1515
01:24:37,800 --> 01:24:42,639
Speaker 1: this scene, right. Uh and then but so yeah, that

1516
01:24:42,640 --> 01:24:45,720
Speaker 1: that does not go as Frost planned, though. Frost does

1517
01:24:45,760 --> 01:24:49,719
Speaker 1: try to execute his human child hostage and Blade saves

1518
01:24:49,760 --> 01:24:53,320
Speaker 1: the kid's life. Uh so Blade, Blade is kind of harsh,

1519
01:24:53,400 --> 01:24:56,440
Speaker 1: like he doesn't show a lot of niceness or compassion,

1520
01:24:56,520 --> 01:24:58,599
Speaker 1: but he does come through in a pinch and help

1521
01:24:58,680 --> 01:25:01,920
Speaker 1: the humans out. Yeah, it's nice, purely superhero move and

1522
01:25:01,960 --> 01:25:04,439
Speaker 1: a reminder that Blade is a superhero and he still

1523
01:25:04,439 --> 01:25:08,280
Speaker 1: has that humanity, especially after you know the previous sequences

1524
01:25:08,320 --> 01:25:10,720
Speaker 1: where a lot of it is about the struggle for

1525
01:25:10,760 --> 01:25:13,720
Speaker 1: his humanity and is he's slipping, is he doomed to

1526
01:25:13,800 --> 01:25:17,439
Speaker 1: fall into the night? Um? Uh, you know with these

1527
01:25:17,520 --> 01:25:20,800
Speaker 1: vampires and so forth. But whoops. While Blade was out

1528
01:25:20,880 --> 01:25:24,559
Speaker 1: in the city outrunning errands, the vampires attacked the hideout

1529
01:25:24,720 --> 01:25:29,120
Speaker 1: and they they kidnapped Karen and oh no, Whistler has

1530
01:25:29,160 --> 01:25:31,640
Speaker 1: been turned. And so there's a scene where, well you

1531
01:25:31,680 --> 01:25:35,200
Speaker 1: think Whistler kills himself because he's going to turn into

1532
01:25:35,240 --> 01:25:38,200
Speaker 1: a vampire. Apparently that doesn't take and he's back in

1533
01:25:38,200 --> 01:25:41,760
Speaker 1: the sequel, right right, Um, yeah, the screenplay tried to

1534
01:25:41,840 --> 01:25:45,639
Speaker 1: kill him, but you can't keep a great character down. Um,

1535
01:25:45,760 --> 01:25:47,880
Speaker 1: so yeah, he's back for the sequel. Don't worry about him,

1536
01:25:47,880 --> 01:25:51,120
Speaker 1: even though it does seem like he is tortured nearly

1537
01:25:51,200 --> 01:25:53,400
Speaker 1: to death and then forced to take his own life.

1538
01:25:53,520 --> 01:25:56,360
Speaker 1: But here from this point out is just like showdowns

1539
01:25:56,520 --> 01:25:59,880
Speaker 1: until the end. So you know, Blade attacks the penthouse

1540
01:26:00,760 --> 01:26:03,920
Speaker 1: where he meets his mom, who it turns out she's

1541
01:26:03,920 --> 01:26:06,320
Speaker 1: been alive this whole time because she was turned into

1542
01:26:06,360 --> 01:26:09,599
Speaker 1: a vampire and now she's bad. So you think it's

1543
01:26:09,600 --> 01:26:11,760
Speaker 1: gonna be nice that he meets her, but she's like, well, no,

1544
01:26:11,840 --> 01:26:14,000
Speaker 1: I'm a vampire now, and when you become a vampire,

1545
01:26:14,040 --> 01:26:17,439
Speaker 1: you become evil. So I'm evil and I don't like you. Yeah,

1546
01:26:17,520 --> 01:26:19,639
Speaker 1: And just talking about it here, you might think, what, well,

1547
01:26:19,760 --> 01:26:22,479
Speaker 1: is it was it necessary for Blade to become Hamlet

1548
01:26:22,520 --> 01:26:25,680
Speaker 1: for a little bit uh in this film? And it

1549
01:26:25,760 --> 01:26:29,599
Speaker 1: might sound like it's unnecessary, but like beat by beat,

1550
01:26:29,920 --> 01:26:32,920
Speaker 1: I feel like this this part of the narrative is

1551
01:26:32,960 --> 01:26:36,080
Speaker 1: also really important to break up the action and really

1552
01:26:36,080 --> 01:26:39,440
Speaker 1: propel things forward. Uh yeah. And so Blade is captured

1553
01:26:39,560 --> 01:26:43,679
Speaker 1: by Frost's vampire army, and Frost is going to use

1554
01:26:43,800 --> 01:26:48,920
Speaker 1: Blades half vampire blood for a ritual which is going

1555
01:26:48,960 --> 01:26:52,280
Speaker 1: to summon the blood God or turn Frost into the

1556
01:26:52,280 --> 01:26:56,480
Speaker 1: blood God, I think. And so, so Blade is imprisoned

1557
01:26:56,520 --> 01:26:59,960
Speaker 1: and then you do the ritual. Uh he Blade is

1558
01:27:00,120 --> 01:27:03,200
Speaker 1: saved by Karen. They try to execute Karen by throwing

1559
01:27:03,240 --> 01:27:05,800
Speaker 1: her into a zombie pit. Apparently sometimes when you buy

1560
01:27:05,880 --> 01:27:08,519
Speaker 1: a human, they don't turn into a vampire. Instead they

1561
01:27:08,520 --> 01:27:11,639
Speaker 1: turn into a zombie. And it's hey, it's her old friend,

1562
01:27:11,720 --> 01:27:15,519
Speaker 1: her old ex boyfriend, the doctor who's got the beetle haircut.

1563
01:27:16,200 --> 01:27:18,200
Speaker 1: He's a he's a zombie now, and he tries to

1564
01:27:18,240 --> 01:27:20,599
Speaker 1: eat her in a pit, but she escapes and then

1565
01:27:20,640 --> 01:27:24,400
Speaker 1: she saves the day. She like unlocks blades cage and

1566
01:27:24,439 --> 01:27:26,920
Speaker 1: gets him out so he can he can ohh. And

1567
01:27:26,960 --> 01:27:29,639
Speaker 1: then she's also like, you need to drink my blood

1568
01:27:29,880 --> 01:27:32,280
Speaker 1: to regain your strength so you can fight all the

1569
01:27:32,320 --> 01:27:35,679
Speaker 1: bad guys. And this is exactly how it goes down.

1570
01:27:36,400 --> 01:27:42,439
Speaker 1: Blade proceeds to just absolutely womp all underlings within reach.

1571
01:27:43,000 --> 01:27:45,080
Speaker 1: And this is a this is a whole sequence where

1572
01:27:45,120 --> 01:27:48,120
Speaker 1: you know it's great martial arts action, but there's certainly

1573
01:27:48,200 --> 01:27:51,200
Speaker 1: some intended martial arts physical humor in this. And I'm

1574
01:27:51,200 --> 01:27:53,000
Speaker 1: sure there's a name for this in Hong Kong cinema

1575
01:27:53,000 --> 01:27:55,320
Speaker 1: that I'm just not aware of. But like, Blade is

1576
01:27:55,320 --> 01:27:58,160
Speaker 1: just taking out Lack, He's left and right, uh, and

1577
01:27:58,240 --> 01:28:00,719
Speaker 1: it all reaches a fever pitch from me when Blade

1578
01:28:01,400 --> 01:28:05,320
Speaker 1: has he's down a vampire underling, perhaps a vampire. I

1579
01:28:05,320 --> 01:28:08,120
Speaker 1: think it's a vampire, and then proceeds to kick the

1580
01:28:08,200 --> 01:28:12,240
Speaker 1: vampire multiple times with both feet in the groin and

1581
01:28:12,280 --> 01:28:15,240
Speaker 1: then finally kicks the vampire so hard in the groin

1582
01:28:15,560 --> 01:28:19,000
Speaker 1: that the vampire flies up onto his feet again and

1583
01:28:19,000 --> 01:28:22,280
Speaker 1: then he states him or something. It's marvelous. Yeah, there

1584
01:28:22,400 --> 01:28:24,000
Speaker 1: there are parts that kind of remind me of like

1585
01:28:24,080 --> 01:28:28,720
Speaker 1: the uh, the physical comedy within the fight choreography that

1586
01:28:28,760 --> 01:28:31,840
Speaker 1: you see in like some Jackie Chan movies. And and

1587
01:28:31,840 --> 01:28:35,040
Speaker 1: in all this we also dispense with some of the underlings.

1588
01:28:35,080 --> 01:28:37,960
Speaker 1: Mercury gets taken out by Karen. She's sprays her in

1589
01:28:38,000 --> 01:28:40,640
Speaker 1: the mouth with the garlic silver stuff in her head explodes.

1590
01:28:41,080 --> 01:28:44,160
Speaker 1: Quinn has a has a wonderful death sequence where basically

1591
01:28:44,160 --> 01:28:46,840
Speaker 1: at the very start of the battle, he jumps at Blade,

1592
01:28:46,880 --> 01:28:49,600
Speaker 1: It's like, I'm gonna take you out, and Blade uh

1593
01:28:49,760 --> 01:28:52,080
Speaker 1: beheads him with a with a like a zip line.

1594
01:28:52,760 --> 01:28:55,880
Speaker 1: It's pretty great. Oh yeah. In fact, when he when

1595
01:28:55,880 --> 01:28:58,559
Speaker 1: he immediately takes up, it's very much like the scene

1596
01:28:58,560 --> 01:29:00,479
Speaker 1: in Raiders of the Lost Ark where and d pulls

1597
01:29:00,479 --> 01:29:05,000
Speaker 1: out the revolver. It's just like, okay, that's that's that's done. Yeah,

1598
01:29:05,040 --> 01:29:07,320
Speaker 1: and he catches the shades, puts them on, and then

1599
01:29:07,320 --> 01:29:11,280
Speaker 1: it's oh because because Donald Log stole his his sunglasses,

1600
01:29:11,320 --> 01:29:14,840
Speaker 1: which is you do not take Blade sunglasses. Yeah, that's

1601
01:29:14,880 --> 01:29:17,839
Speaker 1: the final straw. There is a weird scene where Blade

1602
01:29:17,880 --> 01:29:21,120
Speaker 1: has to stake his mom, but he explains that he's like,

1603
01:29:21,240 --> 01:29:24,000
Speaker 1: I'm setting you free. I'm releasing you because it's not

1604
01:29:24,120 --> 01:29:27,200
Speaker 1: really her anymore because she's a vampire. Is that that's

1605
01:29:27,200 --> 01:29:29,320
Speaker 1: how I read that? But now it's really it's just

1606
01:29:29,360 --> 01:29:33,320
Speaker 1: final showdown. It is it's Frost versus Blade, except Frost

1607
01:29:33,400 --> 01:29:36,080
Speaker 1: isn't quite Frost anymore because he's managed to pull off

1608
01:29:36,120 --> 01:29:39,880
Speaker 1: this ceremony. This ritual, there's kind of like a kind

1609
01:29:39,880 --> 01:29:42,679
Speaker 1: of like a Raiders of the Lost darc esque soul

1610
01:29:42,920 --> 01:29:46,639
Speaker 1: capture and absorption of the vampire c g I souls.

1611
01:29:47,240 --> 01:29:52,839
Speaker 1: Now Frost is Lamagra. Frost has the superhuman blood vampire powers,

1612
01:29:53,240 --> 01:29:55,479
Speaker 1: and he might just be too much for Blade to

1613
01:29:55,520 --> 01:29:57,920
Speaker 1: take out. Yeah, there's a scene where Blade like cuts

1614
01:29:57,920 --> 01:30:01,240
Speaker 1: Frost in half, but then blow jumps out of his

1615
01:30:01,320 --> 01:30:05,120
Speaker 1: two halves and like grabs itself and pulls him back together.

1616
01:30:05,560 --> 01:30:09,200
Speaker 1: So he's it's destructible now that. Yeah, Blade goes to

1617
01:30:09,280 --> 01:30:11,479
Speaker 1: say the f and he can say the F out loud.

1618
01:30:11,479 --> 01:30:14,200
Speaker 1: He has to mount the f instead. In the end, though,

1619
01:30:14,360 --> 01:30:17,240
Speaker 1: how how do you defeat the blood god? Well, how

1620
01:30:17,240 --> 01:30:21,280
Speaker 1: about some anti coagulant? Oh yeah, so yeah that Finally

1621
01:30:21,320 --> 01:30:24,960
Speaker 1: there's some some wonderful drama and the fight involving having

1622
01:30:24,960 --> 01:30:28,200
Speaker 1: to get ahold of those those vials of the of

1623
01:30:28,240 --> 01:30:32,160
Speaker 1: the anticoagulant. Blade is able to get it and stabs

1624
01:30:32,560 --> 01:30:35,000
Speaker 1: Frost with one of these vials and then proceeds to

1625
01:30:35,080 --> 01:30:37,439
Speaker 1: just pelt him with the vials. Like a dozen of

1626
01:30:37,479 --> 01:30:41,040
Speaker 1: these vials are now stuck in Frost, filling him with

1627
01:30:41,080 --> 01:30:44,439
Speaker 1: the stuff, and we get a wonderful like hyper bloat

1628
01:30:44,479 --> 01:30:48,719
Speaker 1: and explode scene, and a wonderful bladeism from Blade himself

1629
01:30:48,720 --> 01:30:52,639
Speaker 1: where he tells us that some mother efforts are always

1630
01:30:52,640 --> 01:30:55,880
Speaker 1: trying to ice Skate uphill. Um. You can, we can

1631
01:30:55,960 --> 01:30:59,479
Speaker 1: discuss back and forth what it means, but you don't

1632
01:30:59,479 --> 01:31:01,439
Speaker 1: even have to. It's clear what it means. It's all

1633
01:31:01,439 --> 01:31:04,519
Speaker 1: in the context you it's It's one of the greatest

1634
01:31:04,560 --> 01:31:08,160
Speaker 1: lines in cinematic history. It's like poetry. Okay, I think

1635
01:31:08,200 --> 01:31:12,360
Speaker 1: that's everything I have to say about Blade. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1636
01:31:12,400 --> 01:31:14,960
Speaker 1: what else can you say, except you know, they imply

1637
01:31:15,000 --> 01:31:16,600
Speaker 1: at the end that there will be more Blade and

1638
01:31:16,680 --> 01:31:19,200
Speaker 1: lo and behold there was more Blade and lo and

1639
01:31:19,240 --> 01:31:22,720
Speaker 1: behold there there will be more Blade because we know

1640
01:31:22,800 --> 01:31:26,880
Speaker 1: now that mahrschela Ali is going to play Blade in

1641
01:31:26,880 --> 01:31:31,320
Speaker 1: an upcoming Marvel Cinematic Universe film, And uh yeah, I

1642
01:31:31,320 --> 01:31:34,720
Speaker 1: think this is terrific casting. With Delroy Lindo in it

1643
01:31:34,800 --> 01:31:36,640
Speaker 1: as well. I can't help but wonder if he's going

1644
01:31:36,680 --> 01:31:40,280
Speaker 1: to play the new Whistler. Um. I have other questions

1645
01:31:40,320 --> 01:31:42,080
Speaker 1: as well, like are we gonna have to put up

1646
01:31:42,120 --> 01:31:45,320
Speaker 1: with scenes of where Blade is hanging out with Doctor Strange,

1647
01:31:45,640 --> 01:31:48,280
Speaker 1: or are they gonna let it be mostly uh its

1648
01:31:48,320 --> 01:31:50,920
Speaker 1: own world? Are they gonna let Blade say the F

1649
01:31:51,080 --> 01:31:53,439
Speaker 1: in this? I have no idea. Oh yeah, can you

1650
01:31:53,520 --> 01:31:55,559
Speaker 1: make an R rated m c U film? I don't.

1651
01:31:55,600 --> 01:31:58,880
Speaker 1: I don't really know anything about that. Yeah, isn't. It's

1652
01:31:58,880 --> 01:32:01,200
Speaker 1: like sometimes they say, Okay, you can say the F

1653
01:32:02,160 --> 01:32:05,160
Speaker 1: X number of times and still not have an R.

1654
01:32:05,600 --> 01:32:08,320
Speaker 1: But can you ask Blade? Can you limit Blade in

1655
01:32:08,320 --> 01:32:10,680
Speaker 1: that fashion? I don't know. Okay, Well, I guess I

1656
01:32:10,720 --> 01:32:14,720
Speaker 1: gotta see the other older Blade movies. First. I'm kind

1657
01:32:14,760 --> 01:32:17,479
Speaker 1: of I mean, I like my herschel Ali, but but

1658
01:32:17,600 --> 01:32:20,519
Speaker 1: it's also hard for me to imagine anybody but Wesley

1659
01:32:20,560 --> 01:32:23,639
Speaker 1: Snipes in this role. It's like, as we were saying earlier,

1660
01:32:24,000 --> 01:32:27,680
Speaker 1: it just is identical to him the actor. Yeah, it is.

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Speaker 1: It is very hard to to imagine anyone other than Snipes.

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Speaker 1: But I think Ali could do it. I think he

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Speaker 1: has he has the acting chops, he has the physicality.

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Speaker 1: And uh, I think I read that that he got

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Speaker 1: Snipes his blessing. So okay, well we'll see. But who knows.

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Speaker 1: Maybe Snipes will be in it. Maybe Snipes will be

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Speaker 1: the new Whistler. Now that would be something. Okay, I

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Speaker 1: don't know. We'll see, we'll see how it develops. All right,

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Speaker 1: all right, we're gonna go ahead and close the casket

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Speaker 1: on this one. We didn't even talk about the cool

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Speaker 1: space age caskets the head in this sleeping baskits um.

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Speaker 1: But anyway, we're gonna go and close the casket on

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Speaker 1: this one. We're gonna go and put a stake in it.

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Speaker 1: But we'd love to hear from everyone out there who

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Speaker 1: has thoughts on Blade, Uh, this movie Blade, other Blade films,

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Speaker 1: films from this era right in, we would love to

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Speaker 1: hear from you. Weird House Cinema of course, publishes and

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Speaker 1: We're mostly a science and culture podcast, but on Friday's

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Speaker 1: a complete list of all the films we've covered there.

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Speaker 1: And sometimes I'll even go ahead and include the next

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