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Speaker 6: got I think a really great replacement for him today,
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Speaker 2: Welcome to the show.
Speaker 3: Watch listen, Derek. I've been watching The Break for a long.
Speaker 8: Time, and you always maybe when you say that, And
Speaker 8: every time I watched the break, everybody seems to be
Speaker 8: suited and booted. And the one thing that I will
Speaker 8: not do is show up lacking or show up listen there.
Speaker 3: So I just want to throw on a little Sunday.
Speaker 7: I mean, nothing too crazy, nothing too crazy.
Speaker 3: It's I just wanted to I just wanted to match
Speaker 3: the end.
Speaker 7: Nothing too crazy, man, never never go too crazy. You've
Speaker 7: never been known to do that.
Speaker 8: Sorry, boy. We drafted some players. Boy man, you know
Speaker 8: that's the thing.
Speaker 6: We're going to get into this draft uh today and
Speaker 6: talk about what happened. You guys obviously did the Draft
Speaker 6: show all weekend, so you were there for every single pick,
Speaker 6: literally every single pick, not just the Cowboys pick. So
Speaker 6: we'll get into some talk around the Cowboys draft if
Speaker 6: we have time. We might even talk about some other
Speaker 6: drafts around the league or some interesting things that came
Speaker 6: out of the weekend, mister Seder Sanders. But we'll see
Speaker 6: if we got time to get into some of that other.
Speaker 5: We're not gonna have time.
Speaker 6: We'll see if we don't. If we don't, then we
Speaker 6: always have show next week.
Speaker 2: And there, Yeah.
Speaker 5: How many times. Have we done this?
Speaker 2: All right, So we're gonna go around the table real quick.
Speaker 6: I want everybody in a word or maybe three, how
Speaker 6: would you characterize the Cowboys draft.
Speaker 2: We'll start at your batch.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, I think that handle your business with the board,
Speaker 7: the way that thing's set up. Man, it was. I
Speaker 7: know it's two words, handle your business. I guess two words.
Speaker 7: But but yeah, they drafted their board. Applaud to you
Speaker 7: for that.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I thought they addressed a lot of the things that
Speaker 5: they were interested in except one.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, there.
Speaker 5: We'll talk about a big one. A big one there was.
Speaker 5: We're gonna see what happens, if there's anything in the
Speaker 5: works or what they're planning to do. But I cannot
Speaker 5: imagine them going into training camp and starting everything up
Speaker 5: without adding a player that's a wide receiver with experience
Speaker 5: at least.
Speaker 6: All right, let's talk about the first round draft pick,
Speaker 6: Tyler Booker, Alabama guard. How much of ma an impact
Speaker 6: do you think he will make immediately coming right out
Speaker 6: of box.
Speaker 8: I think he's gonna be a Day one guy. I
Speaker 8: don't think he needs too much weight room as a
Speaker 8: day one guy like he's powerful right now, that's his profile.
Speaker 8: I'm powerful guy, gap exchange guy, I'm IQ guy, and
Speaker 8: I'm tough and mean guy, and I'm leadership guy. And
Speaker 8: I've been doing this for a long time. It' sec guy,
Speaker 8: you know. So I you know, there are some routes
Speaker 8: that the Cowboys could have gone right.
Speaker 3: There was a lot of roomors about.
Speaker 8: Gray's Abel grays Abel's cool, but North Dakota State ain't Alabama.
Speaker 8: His athleticism and all that kind of stuff that's not
Speaker 8: gonna move bodies. And Clayton Madams came in and talked about, Hey,
Speaker 8: we're gonna move the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 3: That's what we want to do.
Speaker 8: So you take Tyler Booker, you pair him with BB
Speaker 8: you pair him with big Tyler Smith because it's three titleers.
Speaker 8: We got to make sure we say the right names now.
Speaker 8: And even Terreen Steele when he was at his best,
Speaker 8: when he was working with zag Martin, he was a
Speaker 8: people mover. Zach gets hurt or you know, Bass gets
Speaker 8: in there, or Hoffman gets in there, then Terrence looks
Speaker 8: a little different. Coaching is gonna matter as well. So
Speaker 8: I can only imagine that Booker being back will help
Speaker 8: tern Steel out. So now we have I wouldn't say
Speaker 8: a question mark about four out of our five offensive lineman.
Speaker 3: I think day one you get a little better O line.
Speaker 7: Yeah, the overall experience if you look at last year though,
Speaker 7: from Tyler Geyton to where you drafted now, Tyler Goeyton
Speaker 7: really didn't have a lot of experience and the learning
Speaker 7: curve was very, very steep, and we saw that last
Speaker 7: year and you know, unfortunately there were times where he
Speaker 7: was hurt and unavailable and then at the end of
Speaker 7: the season there the coaches are trying to win games
Speaker 7: to make maybe make sure that they come back, and
Speaker 7: you know, he lost that opportunity from an experience standpoint.
Speaker 7: But when you're talking about Vachua, Stevens mentioned that, like
Speaker 7: with Tyler Burr, you have a guy that is lined
Speaker 7: up and played in a lot of big time football games.
Speaker 7: Dallas Cowboys are going to play in a lot of
Speaker 7: big time football games. They got the right guy here.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm super excited to see him come in because
Speaker 5: I think he will definitely make an impact immediately. I
Speaker 5: don't see him having a very huge learning curve. Obviously,
Speaker 5: there's that learning curve that you're automatically gonna have year one.
Speaker 5: But I think he's a plugin player and he's gonna
Speaker 5: be able to be effective immediately. He's extremely smart. You
Speaker 5: look at his history, everything he's done, starting from high
Speaker 5: school all the way up until this point, and even
Speaker 5: listening to him the way that he describes things. He's
Speaker 5: so graphic, but I love it, like it makes you excited.
Speaker 5: He is very confident, and it just makes you believe that, Okay,
Speaker 5: this is someone that's definitely going to come in here
Speaker 5: and make history for the Cowboys.
Speaker 8: Also, also, Booker can't get better. There's a lot of
Speaker 8: room for him to go. You know, he likes to,
Speaker 8: you know, lunge and lean sometimes when he's whooping people,
Speaker 8: and you know there's a coach that can tap him
Speaker 8: on the show like hey buddy, just keep your balance here,
Speaker 8: keep your feet here, keep your hands there. So there's
Speaker 8: there's there's room to grow. And I don't know how
Speaker 8: the National Football League does, but they find a way
Speaker 8: to make people stronger. And he's already strong guy. Next
Speaker 8: year he's gonna be bigger and his neck's gonna be
Speaker 8: swollen and he's gonna be strong and like man, Tyler
Speaker 8: Booker is even more of what he was good at
Speaker 8: this year than he was last year.
Speaker 3: A lot of room to grow him.
Speaker 6: Yes, I was looking at some of some different things
Speaker 6: I was seeing online, some different film of him playing.
Speaker 6: One of the things that stood out to me, As
Speaker 6: you were mentioned in Watch, even though his feet sometimes
Speaker 6: would get him into bad situations, his strength would allow
Speaker 6: him to recover. It would allow him to be able
Speaker 6: to get a hand on a guy and then get
Speaker 6: himself back into position because he was so strong.
Speaker 2: So, especially for a young guy learning the.
Speaker 6: NFL, dealing with with guys that are behemos and guys
Speaker 6: that are that are quick, I think that's gonna be
Speaker 6: an advantage for him starting out early, until he starts
Speaker 6: to figure out some of those technique things.
Speaker 7: Yeah, you play, you play in a division with big
Speaker 7: time defensive tackles, and you've got to be able to
Speaker 7: handle what's going on in Philadelphia that the Giants and
Speaker 7: the Commanders that this is this is exactly what you
Speaker 7: need to to take on those types of players that
Speaker 7: you know, Let's be honest, quarterbacks nowadays, with the way
Speaker 7: the ball comes out, it's not always about the edge pressure.
Speaker 7: It's about things that happen in the middle of the pocket,
Speaker 7: you know, and if you're not good enough in the
Speaker 7: middle of the pocket, defenses find ways to attack.
Speaker 3: You a gap.
Speaker 7: And when they attack you a gap, your quarterback can
Speaker 7: be in trouble if you're not ready for it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think we all agree this was a solid
Speaker 6: pick for the Cowboys. I think the question that comes
Speaker 6: out of this is going into the draft, were the.
Speaker 2: Right or wrong?
Speaker 6: A lot of people mocked Matthew Golden wide receiver Texas
Speaker 6: going to the Cowboys at twelve? Was this the right
Speaker 6: decision from the standpoint of value of player? Obviously they
Speaker 6: still need a wide receiver too. I think everybody agrees
Speaker 6: with that, and that could have potentially been your wide
Speaker 6: receiver too.
Speaker 2: But you get a guy who's very solid that you
Speaker 2: think you can plug in.
Speaker 6: He plays immediately and he can play for the next
Speaker 6: ten years at a very high level. Which was the
Speaker 6: better option here from the standpoint of value.
Speaker 7: Well, they told you which the better option was to
Speaker 7: them because they clearly and we've talked about it on
Speaker 7: these platforms, are in Dallas, Cowboys dot Com and myself
Speaker 7: on our show at Night, is that they thought that
Speaker 7: it wasn't as clear cut to them. It wasn't McMillan
Speaker 7: and Golden or even a Buca. It was you know,
Speaker 7: there was there was possibly McMillan, and then there was
Speaker 7: a gap. You know, as a rookue, he's even part
Speaker 7: of that. There's a gap between you know, where they
Speaker 7: were going to take some guys there, you know, and
Speaker 7: a lot of that, you know, and I I know
Speaker 7: with like I said, we've watched I talk and I
Speaker 7: take a lot of blame for talking.
Speaker 2: About receiver receiver, receiver receiver.
Speaker 7: In actuality, they were talking about let's just put our
Speaker 7: board together and draft our board. Where I might have said, listen,
Speaker 7: Golden's the guy you need to do this, you need
Speaker 7: to you know. No, they they had a clear gap
Speaker 7: and I and I get on them about hey or
Speaker 7: I asked them, please just draft your board, just draft
Speaker 7: your board, and they did so. To me, you know,
Speaker 7: is it the right decision? Yeah, they don't have a
Speaker 7: right guard. And I nothing against Hoffman or TJ. Bass
Speaker 7: or anybody else is going to play over there. But
Speaker 7: you got a guy that will play ten twelve years
Speaker 7: now and play at.
Speaker 2: A very very high level.
Speaker 7: And is you know, in your biggest investment is your quarterback,
Speaker 7: and is there going to be a lack of mobility
Speaker 7: with your quarterback? You need to keep the front of
Speaker 7: the pocket clean. Yeah, it's if he's on his back.
Speaker 7: It doesn't matter him throwing them to Golden or anybody else.
Speaker 7: It's not gonna work. You gotta find a way. They
Speaker 7: drafted their board, you know, and there clearly was a
Speaker 7: gap between what we thought with McMillan and any other
Speaker 7: receiver that was on that board.
Speaker 8: Something else to think about, too, Brian, is Dak is
Speaker 8: older now and think about the moves that they may win.
Speaker 8: Romo got a little older, all right. Tony used to
Speaker 8: throw the ball forty times a game and throw it everywhere.
Speaker 8: We were winning our best football when Tony was throwing
Speaker 8: a twenty five just thirty times a game. Right, give
Speaker 8: the ball to Murry and pound people up front. So
Speaker 8: you know, yeah, Booker's going to be about keeping Dak safe.
Speaker 8: But this is also about we're going to run the
Speaker 8: ball more. And if you're keeping Dak safe and you're
Speaker 8: throwing the ball less, why receiver two is a knee.
Speaker 8: But maybe it's less of a need than what Raguar
Speaker 8: would be and this tells you what they think about
Speaker 8: Hoffman and look shouts out to hoffin Man. Hoffan does everything,
Speaker 8: he does his job and no disrespect to him. But
Speaker 8: last year, when Hoffman was projected to be the center,
Speaker 8: we win, got a center that was powerful. And this
Speaker 8: year when he was projected to be the right guard,
Speaker 8: we went and got a right guard that was powerful.
Speaker 8: But I think Hoffman will be around. You know, you
Speaker 8: need these guys, you need ten or eleven offensive line.
Speaker 8: But just as much as wide receiver was in need,
Speaker 8: they looked at the right guard and said that that
Speaker 8: was in need as well, and they just thought Booker
Speaker 8: was a better dude.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I definitely think you still obviously need a wide receiver. Yeah,
Speaker 5: the way that you look at how they went about it,
Speaker 5: I think that they're sticking with exactly what they've been
Speaker 5: saying since Brian Schottenheimer took over. He's emphasized the need
Speaker 5: of returning that running game, establishing the run, and that's
Speaker 5: where it all starts. You have to have a solid
Speaker 5: offensive line that is able not only to protect Dak
Speaker 5: because again remembering that he's returning from that injury, but
Speaker 5: also be able to create a running game. Create those
Speaker 5: gaps for those guys. And we've seen the best football
Speaker 5: that has been played here has been when you have
Speaker 5: a very solidified offensive line, and I think that's where
Speaker 5: it starts and what they're trying to do here. So
Speaker 5: I'm not mad about them going for a guy like him. Actually,
Speaker 5: and even after he got here and the way that
Speaker 5: he speaks and everything that he said, I'm even more impressed.
Speaker 5: And you look at the press conference the way that
Speaker 5: Jerry Steven and even Brian Seldon Haimer were looking at him.
Speaker 5: While they look like proud Brian looking at him.
Speaker 2: They had that proud Bryan. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 5: So it's exciting. It's exciting to see that they're doing
Speaker 5: exactly what they've said they're wanting to do, and it's
Speaker 5: starting to take some shape and form quickly.
Speaker 8: No, something that just bothers me is I'm just looking
Speaker 8: all over the league and I say, boy, Josh Allen
Speaker 8: just won a big time game. He only threw the
Speaker 8: ball fifteen times. Yeah, or Jalen hurts through for one
Speaker 8: hundred and fifteen rushows, they blew somebody out.
Speaker 3: How did this happen?
Speaker 8: They're taking pressure off of their court now when it's
Speaker 8: for your quarterback to win, they'll go win and Dak
Speaker 8: can't do that. That's proven to you that he can
Speaker 8: get into a shootout and throw the ball fifty times
Speaker 8: and put points on the board.
Speaker 3: He can do that.
Speaker 8: But I get jealous when I see these other quarterbacks
Speaker 8: that get the credit. Jimmy Garrappolo won a conference championship
Speaker 8: game throwing the ball eleven times, and they say, boy,
Speaker 8: Jimmy Grapplo went out there and won a playoff game.
Speaker 3: That doesn't get that.
Speaker 8: So I'm excited that hopefully this year, next year, whatever happens,
Speaker 8: that will hopefully start winning games like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're They've been very clear.
Speaker 6: You look at what they've done in the coaching hires
Speaker 6: that they've made with Clayton Adams and Connor Riley all
Speaker 6: the way to this pick with Booker.
Speaker 2: They are.
Speaker 6: I was telling somebody the other day, I was like,
Speaker 6: for the first time in a little while, I feel
Speaker 6: like there is a clear, a very clear strategic path,
Speaker 6: Like they know what they want to do, and they
Speaker 6: are doing exactly what they want to do, and I
Speaker 6: think it's all go to line out.
Speaker 2: In them being able to run the ball.
Speaker 6: And now we will see if they have the running
Speaker 6: backs to be able to do the things that they
Speaker 6: want to do. They've got some guys in this draft
Speaker 6: we'll talk about a little later that we think have
Speaker 6: some potential. But all that being said, it is very
Speaker 6: clear strategically what they want to do, and that is
Speaker 6: to be able to run the ball effectively, and I
Speaker 6: think they're they're putting all the pieces in place to
Speaker 6: be able to do that.
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Speaker 3: Draft.
Speaker 2: Let's get into the second round.
Speaker 6: Cowboys draft Edge Donovan as a ROKU from Boston College,
Speaker 6: shad out to the Queues. And here's the interesting thing
Speaker 6: about him. Everything suggests to me from what I've seen,
Speaker 6: from what I've read, the film I've watched, that this
Speaker 6: is a really, really, really great player. He was second
Speaker 6: in in all of college football with regards to the
Speaker 6: number of sacks, and if I heard the correct he
Speaker 6: was first in overall pressures in college.
Speaker 2: Well, I thought I heard that's.
Speaker 3: Sixteen Saxon about forty pressures.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that all being said, why was he available in
Speaker 6: the second round?
Speaker 8: He's six y two and Derrick, this is your first
Speaker 8: time hearing me say this in Ambar as well. Teams
Speaker 8: suck at drafting. Teams aren't very good.
Speaker 2: I've heard you say, because I listen to the draft shops.
Speaker 3: Team teams aren't good at this.
Speaker 8: And I think sometimes teams have their own measurables and
Speaker 8: they'll overthink things and they'll go, well, he's two hundred
Speaker 8: and forty pounds. That may not fit the metric that
Speaker 8: we're looking for. We want to get a guy like
Speaker 8: Mike Keil Williams who doesn't get sacks in the league,
Speaker 8: but at least he's about two eighty and he's tall.
Speaker 8: But the Cowboys have a type and they love arm
Speaker 8: length and Donovan has those has those long arms, brown
Speaker 8: like thirty three inch arms I believe in. And you
Speaker 8: see that shine in his pass rushing and he's a
Speaker 8: dude that knows how to pass rush right now. And
Speaker 8: I just personally feel that if you get sacks in college,
Speaker 8: then you will get sacks in the league. He's not
Speaker 8: a guy that we're gonna sit around and just wait
Speaker 8: on him to pick up pass rushing. He's ready to
Speaker 8: go right now. He's solid in the run game for
Speaker 8: his size. I don't think he would be a Day
Speaker 8: one run defender right now because the Cowboys have have
Speaker 8: run defenders right now. Marshall Niland will be doing run
Speaker 8: defending things right now. But as far as your NASCAR package,
Speaker 8: I call the end game, Uh, you got Donovan, Micah,
Speaker 8: Dante Sam if he gives you anything, you you you
Speaker 8: have a lot of names you could just throw at quarterbacks.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is uh.
Speaker 7: You know when him and Mike Green from Marshall who
Speaker 7: ended up going later in the draft beat, you know,
Speaker 7: because of some of the things that he was dealing
Speaker 7: with on a personal level and stuff. And the Ravens
Speaker 7: I think got a heck of a pick there. But
Speaker 7: the thing about it, he was one of if you
Speaker 7: ab dua Carter was like the number one guy in
Speaker 7: a lot of folks spoorts and then all of a sudden, Hey, now,
Speaker 7: now tell me who the next best pass rushers are.
Speaker 7: You know, Donovan was one of these guys. He was
Speaker 7: clearly into that, into that way. And you know when
Speaker 7: you watched him play, the ability to to bend the corner,
Speaker 7: to attack the shoulder, to get low, to finish where
Speaker 7: the quarterback is, the fact that they move him around,
Speaker 7: he stands up, hand down, left side right. You can
Speaker 7: put them at mike linebacker. This is very much like
Speaker 7: what they do with Michael Parsons in that type of player.
Speaker 7: And he was.
Speaker 2: He was one of the.
Speaker 7: Top three pass rushers in this draft. And sometimes the
Speaker 7: draft GUIDs do smile on you. And this is another
Speaker 7: example I think of Dallas. We didn't go into this
Speaker 7: talking about, oh, they're going to draft an edge.
Speaker 2: We really didn't.
Speaker 7: We were talking about a lot of at forty four,
Speaker 7: we were talking about the possibly of a one technique
Speaker 7: defensive tackle. We're talking about running backs. Maybe a cornerback
Speaker 7: was in play here, wasn't the edge rusher.
Speaker 12: Though.
Speaker 7: This is another great example of them sticking to that
Speaker 7: board and drafting the best player on it.
Speaker 3: Where's you have on yours?
Speaker 7: He was number twenty six.
Speaker 2: Twenty Did you give him first round grade? No, that
Speaker 2: would be second because he had fifteen first round You
Speaker 2: had eighteen first round yeah, fifteen.
Speaker 7: First round grades. Yeah, so I had him at twenty six.
Speaker 7: It's funny how the Cowboys drafted for me in reverse order,
Speaker 7: Like their first player was my third best player, the
Speaker 7: second was the second, and then the third was I had.
Speaker 7: I had a revel as a as a number twelve
Speaker 7: on my board, so they went in reverse order of
Speaker 7: how I would have had it.
Speaker 5: Well, again, it just goes to show that just like
Speaker 5: you said, they're sticking, they stuck to their board, They
Speaker 5: stuck to the type of homework and due diligence that
Speaker 5: they had done in preparation to this and went for
Speaker 5: a guy that, like you said, Brian, I was not
Speaker 5: expecting a defensive end whatsoever for them to draft in
Speaker 5: the second round. I was looking at again, wide receiver
Speaker 5: and those positions they're running back especially, but not a
Speaker 5: guy like him. But then you start watching him and
Speaker 5: you're like Okay, yeah, this makes sense. Okay, I see why. Yeah,
Speaker 5: So I think again, he has that type of physique
Speaker 5: that the Cowboys like and that will be impactful. And
Speaker 5: I think you start throwing him into the mix, they're
Speaker 5: gonna ease him into action. But the combination of a
Speaker 5: guy like him with everybody else, especially Micah, I think
Speaker 5: can be very very powerful.
Speaker 2: One of the things that stands out to me.
Speaker 6: You look back at twenty twenty three, I think the
Speaker 6: Cowboys had, in my opinion, the best, if not one
Speaker 6: of the best pass rushes in the NFL. They lost
Speaker 6: Durrance Armstrong, they lost Dante Fowler. Now going into twenty
Speaker 6: twenty five, they also lose Tank Clarence, They lose Chauncey Golston.
Speaker 6: They now have Azaraku, Sam Williams will be coming back
Speaker 6: from injury. Marshawn Neeland, who did some things last year.
Speaker 6: I don't think it was a bad year for him
Speaker 6: as a first year player with the injury that he had.
Speaker 6: You get Dante Fowler back, Do you guys think they
Speaker 6: are back now from the standpoint of the horses that
Speaker 6: they had in twenty twenty three? Are they back now
Speaker 6: from the standpoint of the bodies they need in order
Speaker 6: to have that kind of effective pass rush. Obviously Michael
Speaker 6: Parson's being the main stay there.
Speaker 7: If you dress, if you dress the six of the
Speaker 7: ten for a game, then, like you say, we'll see
Speaker 7: what happens. I mean, you got a couple of guys
Speaker 7: with Turner and Niland that are better run defenders, and
Speaker 7: then you've got four legitimate pass rush guys. They could
Speaker 7: come at you that way. And so yeah, I I
Speaker 7: like I like the combination. Uh there was it always
Speaker 7: you know, was you got to think about, Okay, what
Speaker 7: are the guys that are going to play left in
Speaker 7: who's going to play when you know a lot of
Speaker 7: teams are right handed and when they run the football,
Speaker 7: are you going to have some people over that? I
Speaker 7: think they protected themselves, like I say, Neil, And as
Speaker 7: you mentioned, Derek was getting better as a pass rusher
Speaker 7: until he got hurt. And then once he got hurt,
Speaker 7: then you know he had to kind of restart things
Speaker 7: all over again, missing that time. But him and Turner
Speaker 7: on that left side, and then now you mix and
Speaker 7: match the others, you know with with Micah, Yeah, you're
Speaker 7: back to that level. I really liked what I saw
Speaker 7: from Fouler last year playing from the Commanders, Yeah, he
Speaker 7: played well, yeah, it was it was more than that.
Speaker 7: He double ditch.
Speaker 2: I think he had ten.
Speaker 7: It's ten and a half, so yeah, to me, that's
Speaker 7: he was actually playing the run pretty well. So that
Speaker 7: that that right, there is a bonus as well. So
Speaker 7: if you're going to dress six uh six linemen are
Speaker 7: six ends every week, two of them could play the
Speaker 7: adge against the run and then you got the other
Speaker 7: four that can get after you.
Speaker 8: What'll be different is sometimes Tank Lawrence would find himself
Speaker 8: on the field just because he's Tank Lawrence, but he
Speaker 8: wasn't pass rush guy, but seniority would just have him
Speaker 8: on the field in some kind of way. I don't
Speaker 8: think the Cowboys are gonna fall for that this year.
Speaker 8: I think they got pass rushers in their pass rush
Speaker 8: category and they got to run guys, and if it's
Speaker 8: a NASCAR type situation, I don't think you're gonna see
Speaker 8: Tanker on the field. I actually looked up the number.
Speaker 8: Donovan has sixty pressures. Sixty that's a lot. Yes, it's
Speaker 8: a ton, and it's not like he's pressure guy and
Speaker 8: he's not getting sacks. He still has six he and
Speaker 8: to have sex to account for. So you know, Donovan
Speaker 8: being a rookie in a pure pass rush role, that'll
Speaker 8: definitely work for him. Shout out to you, Donovan, day one,
Speaker 8: you will be ready. But if Sam gives you anything,
Speaker 8: what's the number? If Sam gives you eight sacks, seven sacks.
Speaker 8: If Sam gives you give me six, well play sacks,
Speaker 8: I'm good. I'll celebrate. I'll celebrate Sam being your fourth
Speaker 8: guy giving you six sacs. So I think they had
Speaker 8: the opportunity to be better than that crew, but we
Speaker 8: just have to see all Let's.
Speaker 6: Talk about the third round pick. Cowboys pick up a cornerback,
Speaker 6: a Savonne Revel out of East Carolina, and he missed
Speaker 6: most of last year with an injury for those that
Speaker 6: don't know, but how much do you think that injury
Speaker 6: is going to affect his ability to be able to
Speaker 6: play immediately? Because I think for the Cowboys, particularly at
Speaker 6: the cornerback position, one of the challenges for them is
Speaker 6: what's going to happen early. You already got Trayvon Diggs
Speaker 6: coming back from an injury. What do you think is
Speaker 6: the prospect that he'll be ready to play early in
Speaker 6: the season when you probably will need that kind of reinforcement.
Speaker 7: This is one of my favorite players in the draft,
Speaker 7: and if he had not had the knee injury, he
Speaker 7: would be the top corner likely off the board. His length,
Speaker 7: his reach is incredible. The thing that got me excited
Speaker 7: about him as a player is a couple of things.
Speaker 7: I know doctor Dan Cooper and how what a outstanding
Speaker 7: surgeon he is, and how he puts these players back together,
Speaker 7: you know. I mean there's several of them, and there's
Speaker 7: people in the National Football League other teams that come
Speaker 7: and see doctor Cooper and let him do the knee
Speaker 7: searcheres because he's that damn good. You're in a situation
Speaker 7: too with Britt Brown, and I've worked with Britt for
Speaker 7: fourteen fifteen years. I know what he could do to
Speaker 7: get guys back on the field. This guy has a
Speaker 7: tremendous attitude, He has a tremendous work ethic. He wants
Speaker 7: he wants it very badly. And you pair him up
Speaker 7: with a guy like Britt Brown who will push him.
Speaker 7: And he's been working here in Dallas, you know, on
Speaker 7: his rehab stuff, and now Britt's going to get a
Speaker 7: chance to have him out on the field and working
Speaker 7: with him every day, I would say this thing is
Speaker 7: probably going to be more sooner than later about him
Speaker 7: and his ability to come back and be and once
Speaker 7: again play at a very high level. This guy is long,
Speaker 7: he's rangy, he's physical. There was a game where you
Speaker 7: watch him play against Michigan where the ball goes on
Speaker 7: the goal line and you're thinking it's going to be
Speaker 7: a touchdown and he steps up at the two yard line,
Speaker 7: meets the back on the edge and drives the back
Speaker 7: back into and for no gain. Sometimes these corners just
Speaker 7: give up, give it the matador, the ola, whatever. This
Speaker 7: kid's not that way. There's a lot of toughness in
Speaker 7: his body and he's a very determined player. I think
Speaker 7: they stole one here, I really really do. And I
Speaker 7: think that that again, it's about your board. It was
Speaker 7: where they had him on the board. This was my
Speaker 7: twelfth best player overall. With the injury. I loved watching
Speaker 7: this kid play and I said, you listen, I know
Speaker 7: doctor Cooper. I know he's going to fix this kid,
Speaker 7: and wherever he goes, he's going to be okay. He
Speaker 7: just happened to show up in my backyard, and I'm
Speaker 7: really happy about it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, this is the best value pick that the guy
Speaker 5: was made in this draft, and a guy like him,
Speaker 5: I mean I expected something like this more inc with
Speaker 5: that second round pick, because that's historically what the coup
Speaker 5: was do in the second round. And then they picked
Speaker 5: Don't event and I'm like, Okay, made it out of
Speaker 5: that one. And then we go and draft a guy
Speaker 5: like him, and I'm like, if I'm being honest, my
Speaker 5: thing is, yeah, I'm all for a good recovery story.
Speaker 5: But if I pick you, I want you healthy and
Speaker 5: ready to play. Now ready to go. But again, everything
Speaker 5: that you just said, Brian, Obviously, the Cowboys are not
Speaker 5: just randomly picking guys. They do all the work that
Speaker 5: they need to do, and especially trusting the doctor that
Speaker 5: he had the surgery with, they have a good understanding
Speaker 5: of everything that went on with that injury. And he's
Speaker 5: expected to be ready, hopefully by training camp or beginning
Speaker 5: of week one of the season, so it's not like
Speaker 5: he's expected to be out the whole season. He will
Speaker 5: be able to at least contribute at some point this year.
Speaker 5: I would imagine that we get a chance to see
Speaker 5: him on the field for sure.
Speaker 7: I think sooner than later with him his demeanor and
Speaker 7: Britt's determination. That is a very good combination right there.
Speaker 7: We see what Britt was able to do with overshown
Speaker 7: and others. You know, he's really good at this rehab stuff,
Speaker 7: and you know he understand you know, Brett knows the
Speaker 7: importance of that. We're a little down right now here
Speaker 7: at corner. They got to get this guy ready. There
Speaker 7: can't be any questions about him being ready for the season.
Speaker 7: It's got to be. Hey, we got to get him
Speaker 7: ready for week one to go out there and be
Speaker 7: ready to play.
Speaker 8: You know, just as a college player, just as a prospect.
Speaker 8: He's better than what Digs was. He's better than what
Speaker 8: Bland was. Now it matters when you get to the league,
Speaker 8: you know, because they know he has not played it
Speaker 8: down yet, so I don't want to put that on him.
Speaker 8: But just watching his film versus those those guys, just
Speaker 8: height weight, coming up and tackling speed like man covers,
Speaker 8: zone covers, whatever you want to do. He didn't have
Speaker 8: a lot of picks because he was dropping Brian bro Is.
Speaker 8: Just watching this film, he'll get close to those picks.
Speaker 8: We just wouldn't hold on to him. Hey, man, what
Speaker 8: is coaching for.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean, fix up?
Speaker 2: You know we're machines for right, put him on.
Speaker 8: The jugs, Brian. But Revel, I think this is where
Speaker 8: me and Brian disagree a little bit, because knees are tricky,
Speaker 8: and he plays corner cornerback's knee those So what I
Speaker 8: would have wanted if the Cowboys were to double up anywhere,
Speaker 8: I would have wanted them to draft another corner so
Speaker 8: that now we could at least go all right, Rebel,
Speaker 8: if you show up to training camp and you are
Speaker 8: who you are, good, but just in case you're not,
Speaker 8: we'll have another guy that we could play, and we
Speaker 8: can just bring you along at your own pace, and
Speaker 8: then maybe year two and year three you would be
Speaker 8: who you are. And one more thing that kind of
Speaker 8: bothers me about this is I've been waiting for this
Speaker 8: big three at corner for so long, but guys just
Speaker 8: keep getting hurt here. We never get the all three
Speaker 8: corners on the field the same time, even wide receiver.
Speaker 8: But I think Rebel's gonna be Digs insurance for the walls.
Speaker 7: Well, let me tell you this, I'm more concerned about
Speaker 7: Diggs than I am Rebel. Yeah, for sure, that's just
Speaker 7: being honest right there. I mean, that's you know, when
Speaker 7: you start to talk about how to come back and
Speaker 7: get back and be ready to go. I have more
Speaker 7: concerned about Digs than I do the other kid.
Speaker 6: Well, I think from the way they're looking at it,
Speaker 6: to your point, Vatch, I think they're thinking that Elam
Speaker 6: is that guy that gives them that kind of insurance
Speaker 6: in case Rebel isn't ready to go immediately. Whether that
Speaker 6: proves to be true or not, who knows, but I
Speaker 6: think that's how they at least will look at it.
Speaker 6: And as you say, Brian, I know you you're a
Speaker 6: big fan of Kaylen Carson. There's still of hope that
Speaker 6: that he's going to develop and that the injury was
Speaker 6: more of what we saw last year that that maybe
Speaker 6: that's why he didn't develop in the way they wanted
Speaker 6: to throughout the year, more so than than him just
Speaker 6: not developing. So I think they're gonna they have hopes
Speaker 6: for both of those guys. I know hope is not
Speaker 6: a strategy, but I think they have hope. I know,
Speaker 6: but that but that's that's how they're thinking about it,
Speaker 6: and and so when they look at it, they may
Speaker 6: say hey, we we got one corner. We'll add him
Speaker 6: to the mix of the other guys we got and
Speaker 6: hopefully one of these guys steps into that role at
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Speaker 6: that WBC Mortgage Studios at the Star, Let's talk. Fifth round,
Speaker 6: Cowboys select running back Jayden Blew out of Texas Longhorns.
Speaker 6: What do you guys think? What do you think of
Speaker 6: the pick? And and where he fits? Immediately, I'll tell
Speaker 6: you what I think. First of all, he is a guy.
Speaker 6: I look at him and my my my standard for
Speaker 6: him because I think some people are like man, he
Speaker 6: never really started at Texas. The thing about is Texas
Speaker 6: has so much talent at this point, it's kind of
Speaker 6: like a Georgia Bama these other things, like you can
Speaker 6: have a deep room. I think to Shark Choice, who
Speaker 6: was their coach in college, put out this picture of
Speaker 6: the bench and you could see it from the back,
Speaker 6: and they had all five running backs that were at
Speaker 6: there at the time, all the way up to b
Speaker 6: John Robinson and they all are now in the NFL.
Speaker 6: I look at this very similar to what happened with
Speaker 6: Priest Holmes coming out of Texas. When I was at school,
Speaker 6: Priest Holmes was there and Preece Holmes was a He
Speaker 6: was an extra guy. He didn't really do a whole
Speaker 6: lot of Texas he went undrafted, he went in, and
Speaker 6: the rest is history with what he did in Kansas City.
Speaker 2: I think Jayden.
Speaker 6: Blue has the kind of skill that makes him an
Speaker 6: interesting prospect. He's extremely fast. He's actually not what you
Speaker 6: typically you think of a bass guy. You think he's
Speaker 6: just out running everybody to the outside. That's not his game.
Speaker 6: He actually runs up the gut quite a bit. But
Speaker 6: he's quick with It's not just speed, it's quickness. He
Speaker 6: knows how to move and maneuver football player with track speed. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 6: really is, and so he can do a lot. He
Speaker 6: can he can catch the ball well out of the backfield.
Speaker 6: I think all the way around, this is a really
Speaker 6: really good player that you're able to get in the
Speaker 6: fifth round. It just speaks to again what all said
Speaker 6: and what you guys have been saying the whole draft season.
Speaker 6: This was a very, very very deep running back class.
Speaker 6: To get somebody of this caliber in the fifth round.
Speaker 7: Yeah, when we had a chance to talk to you know,
Speaker 7: coach Adams about the you know, I asked him the question,
Speaker 7: what are you looking for in a running back in
Speaker 7: this scheme? And the one thing he said was contact balance.
Speaker 7: This kid right here is one of the best in
Speaker 7: the nation when it came to contact yards after contact,
Speaker 7: and you could see him just his ability to break
Speaker 7: people down in.
Speaker 2: Space where that movie just pounced somebody.
Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, he he was one of the best
Speaker 7: in the country when it came to He would get
Speaker 7: hit behind the line of scrimmage and still manage three
Speaker 7: and a half yards of carry after getting hit. So
Speaker 7: he has that kind of ability to make people miss.
Speaker 7: He is outstanding when it comes to his ability to
Speaker 7: run inside to show toughness. You know, he's not a
Speaker 7: small guy. He's five ninety's one hundred and ninety six pounds.
Speaker 7: That's a thick guy. You know, he's he's he's not
Speaker 7: one of these guys you just have to worry about
Speaker 7: the wear and tear on him. Is is you know,
Speaker 7: I don't think that's going to be a problem. The
Speaker 7: questions that people have always had about him is the
Speaker 7: ball security. That's the thing, and you wonder is this
Speaker 7: something that he's going to have to deal with. You know,
Speaker 7: my own personal experience as a former person pro personnel
Speaker 7: guy and an advanced scout, if I knew there was
Speaker 7: a player that you could try and knock the ball
Speaker 7: out of his hands and attack the ball or tackle
Speaker 7: the ball, and he was going to give it up.
Speaker 7: This is something that this kid is going to fight
Speaker 7: with and he's going to have to prove to people
Speaker 7: that the ball security is not a problem. And once
Speaker 7: he does that, then you'll get people to kind of
Speaker 7: to stay away from that. But his reputation as being
Speaker 7: a guy that has toughness, but the ball security could
Speaker 7: be the question.
Speaker 2: That's the one thing that I think kept him.
Speaker 7: Down the board a little bit was the fact that
Speaker 7: he that would happen to him. And if people are
Speaker 7: going to try and tackle the ball on him, if
Speaker 7: they have success, teams are going to continue to try
Speaker 7: and tackle the ball on him. That film will not
Speaker 7: go away.
Speaker 8: Also, two Cowboy fans, hear me out, we don't have
Speaker 8: a wire receiver too. I understand, don't get upset, but
Speaker 8: we have a Jaden Blue and he will catch a
Speaker 8: ton of passes. He's not a pass catching running back
Speaker 8: in a way of I'm gonna run a Texas route,
Speaker 8: I'm gonna run a swing, that's it.
Speaker 3: He will line up a.
Speaker 8: Slot, he will run cons, he will run posts, he
Speaker 8: will set linebackers in watch the Clemson game and he
Speaker 8: will throw head fakes at you, hand fakes at you.
Speaker 8: He will run all types of routes looking for different
Speaker 8: mismatches or whatnot. And and I think that's where he's
Speaker 8: really going to excel. Shouts out the Deuce man. Deuce
Speaker 8: is gonna have to, you know, fight for his life
Speaker 8: a little bit because Deuce was a pass catcher, but
Speaker 8: a little bitty jade.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 8: Jay Dunn is a little taller, he's a better pass rusher,
Speaker 8: He's a little thicker than Douce, So, uh, he's gonna
Speaker 8: have the edge there. But I don't think you're gonna
Speaker 8: be missing a whole bunch of running back you know. Uh,
Speaker 8: you know pass attempts with him. I mean, he's gonna
Speaker 8: be taking it. And then once he catches it, he
Speaker 8: turns into a four to two guy again and catch
Speaker 8: real quick.
Speaker 7: Derek, if I could, you know, the whole thing with
Speaker 7: the second wide receiver, there's clearly yeah, you would love
Speaker 7: to be able to address that somehow, some way, whether
Speaker 7: it's a trade, free agent signings, there's there's opportunities. You know,
Speaker 7: you talk to people in the organization, they'll tell you, hey,
Speaker 7: we're looking at a lot of wide receivers. I'm very
Speaker 7: encouraged by that part of it all. But now if
Speaker 7: you find a way you get Blue involved, you got Lamb,
Speaker 7: how about Jake Ferguson as well. Can you get a
Speaker 7: bounce back from Jake Ferguson as well?
Speaker 2: Can you mix in Cavante turn and you mix in
Speaker 2: Turpin as well.
Speaker 7: So hopefully you'll have ways to distribute the ball and
Speaker 7: make up for But I do believe they are going
Speaker 7: to go get a receiver that somehow, some way that
Speaker 7: you know, and you've also got you know, June one cuts.
Speaker 7: You know, you want to be able to have to
Speaker 7: have the ability to have the finances to be able
Speaker 7: to go if somebody does get cut, that you can
Speaker 7: go get them and put them, make them part of
Speaker 7: the roster. I I don't think we're I don't think
Speaker 7: they're they've they've they're done by any means trying to
Speaker 7: add weapons to this football team.
Speaker 8: Just that though, like that makes me happy that they're
Speaker 8: at least aware that wide receiver tool in need. Like
Speaker 8: if we're not hearing anybody talk about, like there's no
Speaker 8: reports about them looking at wide receiver too, would I
Speaker 8: would be befuddled and the Cowboys will do it. They'll
Speaker 8: look us right behind and be like, hey, me going
Speaker 8: tober does it step up? And that'll be what simmy,
Speaker 8: Simmy got a step up, y'all, like like they've been
Speaker 8: telling you, it happens. So the fact that there are
Speaker 8: reports saying, hey, the Cowboys are looking into it, chill out,
Speaker 8: that makes me chill out a little bit.
Speaker 5: I mean, I guess you guys described them pretty well.
Speaker 3: I talk about them.
Speaker 5: You're good. But just like you guys said, he's a
Speaker 5: very versatile guy. And I love the fact that he
Speaker 5: can catch the ball. But I'm not gonna lie. It
Speaker 5: does give me a pit in my stomach when I
Speaker 5: do see some of those highlights where he does lose
Speaker 5: the ball, Because we've seen that happen here, and I
Speaker 5: don't think that's something that you can easily correct. It's
Speaker 5: gonna take some time for him to improve in that area.
Speaker 5: So that's definitely something to be extremely aware of, and
Speaker 5: hopefully this coaching staff is able to give him the
Speaker 5: right training to improve in that, but it will be
Speaker 5: something that will take a little bit.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think they fixed it on on the program,
Speaker 6: so I think they just might need to do some
Speaker 6: of that, and maybe that when all of y'all's head,
Speaker 6: do y'all not watch did y'all not watch the program.
Speaker 3: I was born?
Speaker 2: I think I.
Speaker 3: Don't think it was necessarily a fumble alert.
Speaker 8: I just think that he forgets that he needs to
Speaker 8: keep it hind tight sometimes and when he's trying to
Speaker 8: extra well, Murray was a fumbler, like he like will
Speaker 8: be Green Bay or whatever. He'll just he'll know that
Speaker 8: he's higding. You'll see Demark or Murray have the ball
Speaker 8: high and tight. And if you're saying he had the technique,
Speaker 8: he just he just fumbled and it could but the.
Speaker 5: Result is the same. The ball is on the ground
Speaker 5: either way.
Speaker 8: But I guess that's but what I'm saying, Like jay
Speaker 8: Nun has the ball down here, and when he does
Speaker 8: his you know, flipping and running things, you know, it
Speaker 8: kind of loosens up a little bit. I think you
Speaker 8: can beat ball like high and tight into him, like being.
Speaker 2: High technique basically.
Speaker 3: And it could have been his big old muscles.
Speaker 8: I don't know what was making him fumbling football, but
Speaker 8: Murray could not stop putting the ball on the ground.
Speaker 3: It was not dead as as fault.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I will tell you this, and I'm just being
Speaker 6: fair as a cow, as a Texas Texas fan who
Speaker 6: watched all those games, there was a point in the
Speaker 6: season where you were kind of like every time he
Speaker 6: got the ball, you were like, because you were like,
Speaker 6: good things could happen, bad things could happen, right, It
Speaker 6: just so, it was. It was a problem.
Speaker 7: It certainly was if they had a rotation of some
Speaker 7: outstanding backs. Wonder like late in the season, did the
Speaker 7: coaching staff there determined that, Listen, we as much as
Speaker 7: we love throwing him the ball and handing him the ball,
Speaker 7: is there that that thread of him maybe putting the
Speaker 7: ball on the ground. Derek, correct me if I'm wrong.
Speaker 7: I don't remember the Washington game in the playoffs? Was
Speaker 7: that a? It was a fumble one?
Speaker 6: I know, yeah there was a big, big game where
Speaker 6: he had a big fun but I can't remember Washington.
Speaker 7: YEA, so to me that I think it was. But yeah,
Speaker 7: that's that to me is the only thing wrong with
Speaker 7: this player. I agree that you watch him with when
Speaker 7: he can make you, he could punish you, and I
Speaker 7: mean punish you in the way of making you miss
Speaker 7: and making huge plays. This guy's a finisher. I mean,
Speaker 7: you hand him the ball, he could score from anywhere
Speaker 7: on the field. He's got that kind of speed.
Speaker 6: Yep, yep, all right, we only have a couple more
Speaker 6: minutes here, so real quick. I wanted to get you
Speaker 6: guys thought on fifth round pick linebacker Shamar James out
Speaker 6: of Florida or your thoughts on him and what can
Speaker 6: he contribute to What I think is again another position
Speaker 6: that has, because of what they did in free agency,
Speaker 6: become pretty deep. I don't know if they have a
Speaker 6: lot of great players, but I think they got a
Speaker 6: lot of good players.
Speaker 2: What does he fit?
Speaker 8: I wasn't the biggest fan of him. You know, when
Speaker 8: I'm watching linebackers, I like to see you know, running, hitting,
Speaker 8: and like processing. I don't want to see you lost
Speaker 8: out there, and James got lost a little bit.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 8: I don't think he'll fit you as a Mike linebacker
Speaker 8: type guy. But I gotta go back and watch and
Speaker 8: see how the Cowboys look at him, because they look
Speaker 8: at him as a will pass rushing guy. So what
Speaker 8: I need to do is go to the film and
Speaker 8: just ignore all the you know, this linebacker thing, this
Speaker 8: linebacker thing, and just think about him as a pass
Speaker 8: rushing will linebacker guy, and maybe that's why they like
Speaker 8: him so much, But just me watching him, he gets
Speaker 8: lost a bunch. If it's any any kind of misdirection motion,
Speaker 8: he's lost. He's gone and he and he's guessing. And
Speaker 8: I don't want to see guys guessing because if you
Speaker 8: guessing gamble, then.
Speaker 3: You're all the way wrong.
Speaker 8: But he's a He's sometimes the most athletic looking player
Speaker 8: on that defense, and he didn't test that way, but
Speaker 8: just watching him run around, you can see the burst
Speaker 8: and athleticism on him. So I'm gonna go back and
Speaker 8: watch him with cowboy eyes. But just me watching him
Speaker 8: initially and trading up for him, I didn't see a person.
Speaker 6: Can I ask real quick before before we move on, please,
Speaker 6: when you say that, do you think that part of
Speaker 6: it goes back to what you're talking about with fumbling.
Speaker 6: If you're saying that, he looks lost a lot, especially
Speaker 6: when you're in motion that kind of thing. He's got
Speaker 6: something that being in the NFL and being around professionals
Speaker 6: and the right kind of coaching can get him right
Speaker 6: in that way, because it is something you just have
Speaker 6: to learn.
Speaker 3: Though he has a lot of jobs that he will.
Speaker 3: He will get there you go.
Speaker 8: But if he's at will and you go, your only
Speaker 8: is first back out. Yeah, whatever, the first back out is,
Speaker 8: that's your job. If you narrow his job down, he's
Speaker 8: athletic enough to be decent.
Speaker 7: Way there we go.
Speaker 2: Will linebacker.
Speaker 7: Let him be straight lined rush guy, because that's something
Speaker 7: he could absolutely do. His instincts, as Vosh says, are
Speaker 7: not always great. I don't these coaches talk about putting players,
Speaker 7: were about pen and poll. We don't got pen and
Speaker 7: poll lineman. We're not gonna pin and pull. So make
Speaker 7: this kid a will linebacker. Let him run to the ball,
Speaker 7: let him use this explosiveness, let him use his straight
Speaker 7: line speed. Don't put him a lot of coverage situations,
Speaker 7: but figure out ways to kind of use play to
Speaker 7: his strengths. Initially, I think that's what you have to do.
Speaker 7: But the instincts were a little bit of a problem
Speaker 7: with him. When you watch this tape.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think the one position that you absolutely need
Speaker 5: to have really great instinct is linebacker for sure. And
Speaker 5: he's a guy that at least I think the Cowboys
Speaker 5: did address a need like linebacker. We know that the
Speaker 5: Cowboys are dealing with the injuries there and the Marvio
Speaker 5: and Ovashaw not being there. So I think he does
Speaker 5: add the depth. He's not going to be a guy
Speaker 5: that I would expect to make any immediate impact, but
Speaker 5: you look at special teams and that's an area that
Speaker 5: he can definitely contribute at. But I do think this
Speaker 5: is more of a big of addressing a need rather
Speaker 5: than the guy that they mostly want.
Speaker 7: We've seen my guy, Damone Clark, and we all kind
Speaker 7: of think Damone Clark, Katy is a good looking player,
Speaker 7: why does he make more plays? He lacks instincts when
Speaker 7: you don't find the ball. And we've had some of
Speaker 7: the best to ever find the ball here. Sean Lee's
Speaker 7: that win. We've had some guys here they can find
Speaker 7: extra Cokeley, find the ball, get there, make plays, you know,
Speaker 7: but we've also seen Damone Clark, and Damone Clark, as
Speaker 7: good looking as he is, when you don't find the
Speaker 7: ball well and you get lost that way, then that's
Speaker 7: a little bit of a problem.
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Speaker 6: Maybe maybe, maybe, But we got I think we got
Speaker 6: like six or seven shows left before we get the
Speaker 6: training camp.
Speaker 2: So so we're gonna hold some of this content. We'll
Speaker 2: be back next week. Make sure we got someone talking
Speaker 2: about Texas player for thirty minutes. Yeah, I mean, god what.
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