WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: I'll Celebrate

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<v Speaker 1>The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 2>Cowboys Let's go.

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<v Speaker 3>Are you ready for a break?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>Are you ready for a break?

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<v Speaker 5>Absolutely?

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<v Speaker 2>Ready for a break?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and so much for that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's time for the Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com.

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<v Speaker 1>Were with Ambar Garcia, Brian brought us, Nick Harris and

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<v Speaker 1>Derek Eagleton.

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<v Speaker 6>It is Wednesday, April thirtieth, twenty twenty five, Season twenty one,

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<v Speaker 6>episode number eight. Welcome to the latest edition of The

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<v Speaker 6>you can see on.

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<v Speaker 2>Your screen, why did you do this to me today?

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<v Speaker 2>Because I knew I knew you would have that reaction.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why why did you?

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<v Speaker 7>Why did you bring this guy?

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<v Speaker 6>We don't have Nick Harris with us today, but we've

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<v Speaker 6>got I think a really great replacement for him today,

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<v Speaker 6>mister Voch Lombardi.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to the show.

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<v Speaker 3>Watch listen, Derek. I've been watching The Break for a long.

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<v Speaker 8>Time, and you always maybe when you say that, And

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<v Speaker 8>every time I watched the break, everybody seems to be

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<v Speaker 8>suited and booted. And the one thing that I will

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<v Speaker 8>not do is show up lacking or show up listen there.

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<v Speaker 3>So I just want to throw on a little Sunday.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, nothing too crazy, nothing too crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>It's I just wanted to I just wanted to match

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<v Speaker 3>the end.

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<v Speaker 7>Nothing too crazy, man, never never go too crazy. You've

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<v Speaker 7>never been known to do that.

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<v Speaker 8>Sorry, boy. We drafted some players. Boy man, you know

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<v Speaker 8>that's the thing.

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<v Speaker 6>We're going to get into this draft uh today and

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<v Speaker 6>talk about what happened. You guys obviously did the Draft

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<v Speaker 6>show all weekend, so you were there for every single pick,

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<v Speaker 6>literally every single pick, not just the Cowboys pick. So

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<v Speaker 6>we'll get into some talk around the Cowboys draft if

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<v Speaker 6>we have time. We might even talk about some other

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<v Speaker 6>drafts around the league or some interesting things that came

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<v Speaker 6>out of the weekend, mister Seder Sanders. But we'll see

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<v Speaker 6>if we got time to get into some of that other.

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<v Speaker 5>We're not gonna have time.

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<v Speaker 6>We'll see if we don't. If we don't, then we

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<v Speaker 6>always have show next week.

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<v Speaker 2>And there, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>How many times. Have we done this?

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<v Speaker 2>All right, So we're gonna go around the table real quick.

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<v Speaker 6>I want everybody in a word or maybe three, how

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<v Speaker 6>would you characterize the Cowboys draft.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll start at your batch.

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<v Speaker 3>Bp A shouts out to y'all. Learn you listen.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I think that handle your business with the board,

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<v Speaker 7>the way that thing's set up. Man, it was. I

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<v Speaker 7>know it's two words, handle your business. I guess two words.

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<v Speaker 7>But but yeah, they drafted their board. Applaud to you

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<v Speaker 7>for that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>I thought they addressed a lot of the things that

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<v Speaker 5>they were interested in except one.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah, there.

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<v Speaker 5>We'll talk about a big one. A big one there was.

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<v Speaker 5>We're gonna see what happens, if there's anything in the

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<v Speaker 5>works or what they're planning to do. But I cannot

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<v Speaker 5>imagine them going into training camp and starting everything up

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<v Speaker 5>without adding a player that's a wide receiver with experience

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<v Speaker 5>at least.

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<v Speaker 6>All right, let's talk about the first round draft pick,

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<v Speaker 6>Tyler Booker, Alabama guard. How much of ma an impact

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<v Speaker 6>do you think he will make immediately coming right out

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<v Speaker 6>of box.

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<v Speaker 8>I think he's gonna be a Day one guy. I

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<v Speaker 8>don't think he needs too much weight room as a

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<v Speaker 8>day one guy like he's powerful right now, that's his profile.

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<v Speaker 8>I'm powerful guy, gap exchange guy, I'm IQ guy, and

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<v Speaker 8>I'm tough and mean guy, and I'm leadership guy. And

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<v Speaker 8>I've been doing this for a long time. It' sec guy,

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<v Speaker 8>you know. So I you know, there are some routes

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<v Speaker 8>that the Cowboys could have gone right.

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<v Speaker 3>There was a lot of roomors about.

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<v Speaker 8>Gray's Abel grays Abel's cool, but North Dakota State ain't Alabama.

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<v Speaker 8>His athleticism and all that kind of stuff that's not

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<v Speaker 8>gonna move bodies. And Clayton Madams came in and talked about, Hey,

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<v Speaker 8>we're gonna move the line of scrimmage.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what we want to do.

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<v Speaker 8>So you take Tyler Booker, you pair him with BB

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<v Speaker 8>you pair him with big Tyler Smith because it's three titleers.

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<v Speaker 8>We got to make sure we say the right names now.

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<v Speaker 8>And even Terreen Steele when he was at his best,

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<v Speaker 8>when he was working with zag Martin, he was a

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<v Speaker 8>people mover. Zach gets hurt or you know, Bass gets

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<v Speaker 8>in there, or Hoffman gets in there, then Terrence looks

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<v Speaker 8>a little different. Coaching is gonna matter as well. So

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<v Speaker 8>I can only imagine that Booker being back will help

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<v Speaker 8>tern Steel out. So now we have I wouldn't say

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<v Speaker 8>a question mark about four out of our five offensive lineman.

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<v Speaker 3>I think day one you get a little better O line.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, the overall experience if you look at last year though,

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<v Speaker 7>from Tyler Geyton to where you drafted now, Tyler Goeyton

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<v Speaker 7>really didn't have a lot of experience and the learning

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<v Speaker 7>curve was very, very steep, and we saw that last

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<v Speaker 7>year and you know, unfortunately there were times where he

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<v Speaker 7>was hurt and unavailable and then at the end of

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<v Speaker 7>the season there the coaches are trying to win games

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<v Speaker 7>to make maybe make sure that they come back, and

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<v Speaker 7>you know, he lost that opportunity from an experience standpoint.

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<v Speaker 7>But when you're talking about Vachua, Stevens mentioned that, like

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<v Speaker 7>with Tyler Burr, you have a guy that is lined

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<v Speaker 7>up and played in a lot of big time football games.

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<v Speaker 7>Dallas Cowboys are going to play in a lot of

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<v Speaker 7>big time football games. They got the right guy here.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I'm super excited to see him come in because

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<v Speaker 5>I think he will definitely make an impact immediately. I

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<v Speaker 5>don't see him having a very huge learning curve. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 5>there's that learning curve that you're automatically gonna have year one.

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<v Speaker 5>But I think he's a plugin player and he's gonna

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<v Speaker 5>be able to be effective immediately. He's extremely smart. You

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<v Speaker 5>look at his history, everything he's done, starting from high

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<v Speaker 5>school all the way up until this point, and even

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<v Speaker 5>listening to him the way that he describes things. He's

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<v Speaker 5>so graphic, but I love it, like it makes you excited.

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<v Speaker 5>He is very confident, and it just makes you believe that, Okay,

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<v Speaker 5>this is someone that's definitely going to come in here

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<v Speaker 5>and make history for the Cowboys.

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<v Speaker 8>Also, also, Booker can't get better. There's a lot of

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<v Speaker 8>room for him to go. You know, he likes to,

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<v Speaker 8>you know, lunge and lean sometimes when he's whooping people,

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<v Speaker 8>and you know there's a coach that can tap him

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<v Speaker 8>on the show like hey buddy, just keep your balance here,

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<v Speaker 8>keep your feet here, keep your hands there. So there's

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<v Speaker 8>there's there's room to grow. And I don't know how

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<v Speaker 8>the National Football League does, but they find a way

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<v Speaker 8>to make people stronger. And he's already strong guy. Next

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<v Speaker 8>year he's gonna be bigger and his neck's gonna be

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<v Speaker 8>swollen and he's gonna be strong and like man, Tyler

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<v Speaker 8>Booker is even more of what he was good at

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<v Speaker 8>this year than he was last year.

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<v Speaker 3>A lot of room to grow him.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, I was looking at some of some different things

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<v Speaker 6>I was seeing online, some different film of him playing.

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<v Speaker 6>One of the things that stood out to me, As

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<v Speaker 6>you were mentioned in Watch, even though his feet sometimes

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<v Speaker 6>would get him into bad situations, his strength would allow

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<v Speaker 6>him to recover. It would allow him to be able

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<v Speaker 6>to get a hand on a guy and then get

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<v Speaker 6>himself back into position because he was so strong.

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<v Speaker 2>So, especially for a young guy learning the.

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<v Speaker 6>NFL, dealing with with guys that are behemos and guys

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<v Speaker 6>that are that are quick, I think that's gonna be

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<v Speaker 6>an advantage for him starting out early, until he starts

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<v Speaker 6>to figure out some of those technique things.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, you play, you play in a division with big

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<v Speaker 7>time defensive tackles, and you've got to be able to

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<v Speaker 7>handle what's going on in Philadelphia that the Giants and

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<v Speaker 7>the Commanders that this is this is exactly what you

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<v Speaker 7>need to to take on those types of players that

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<v Speaker 7>you know, Let's be honest, quarterbacks nowadays, with the way

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<v Speaker 7>the ball comes out, it's not always about the edge pressure.

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<v Speaker 7>It's about things that happen in the middle of the pocket,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, and if you're not good enough in the

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<v Speaker 7>middle of the pocket, defenses find ways to attack.

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<v Speaker 3>You a gap.

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<v Speaker 7>And when they attack you a gap, your quarterback can

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<v Speaker 7>be in trouble if you're not ready for it.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I think we all agree this was a solid

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<v Speaker 6>pick for the Cowboys. I think the question that comes

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<v Speaker 6>out of this is going into the draft, were the.

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<v Speaker 2>Right or wrong?

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<v Speaker 6>A lot of people mocked Matthew Golden wide receiver Texas

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<v Speaker 6>going to the Cowboys at twelve? Was this the right

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<v Speaker 6>decision from the standpoint of value of player? Obviously they

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<v Speaker 6>still need a wide receiver too. I think everybody agrees

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<v Speaker 6>with that, and that could have potentially been your wide

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<v Speaker 6>receiver too.

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<v Speaker 2>But you get a guy who's very solid that you

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<v Speaker 2>think you can plug in.

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<v Speaker 6>He plays immediately and he can play for the next

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<v Speaker 6>ten years at a very high level. Which was the

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<v Speaker 6>better option here from the standpoint of value.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, they told you which the better option was to

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<v Speaker 7>them because they clearly and we've talked about it on

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<v Speaker 7>these platforms, are in Dallas, Cowboys dot Com and myself

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<v Speaker 7>on our show at Night, is that they thought that

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<v Speaker 7>it wasn't as clear cut to them. It wasn't McMillan

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<v Speaker 7>and Golden or even a Buca. It was you know,

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<v Speaker 7>there was there was possibly McMillan, and then there was

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<v Speaker 7>a gap. You know, as a rookue, he's even part

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<v Speaker 7>of that. There's a gap between you know, where they

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<v Speaker 7>were going to take some guys there, you know, and

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<v Speaker 7>a lot of that, you know, and I I know

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<v Speaker 7>with like I said, we've watched I talk and I

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<v Speaker 7>take a lot of blame for talking.

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<v Speaker 2>About receiver receiver, receiver receiver.

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<v Speaker 7>In actuality, they were talking about let's just put our

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<v Speaker 7>board together and draft our board. Where I might have said, listen,

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<v Speaker 7>Golden's the guy you need to do this, you need

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<v Speaker 7>to you know. No, they they had a clear gap

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<v Speaker 7>and I and I get on them about hey or

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<v Speaker 7>I asked them, please just draft your board, just draft

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<v Speaker 7>your board, and they did so. To me, you know,

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<v Speaker 7>is it the right decision? Yeah, they don't have a

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<v Speaker 7>right guard. And I nothing against Hoffman or TJ. Bass

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<v Speaker 7>or anybody else is going to play over there. But

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<v Speaker 7>you got a guy that will play ten twelve years

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<v Speaker 7>now and play at.

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<v Speaker 2>A very very high level.

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<v Speaker 7>And is you know, in your biggest investment is your quarterback,

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<v Speaker 7>and is there going to be a lack of mobility

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<v Speaker 7>with your quarterback? You need to keep the front of

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<v Speaker 7>the pocket clean. Yeah, it's if he's on his back.

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<v Speaker 7>It doesn't matter him throwing them to Golden or anybody else.

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<v Speaker 7>It's not gonna work. You gotta find a way. They

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<v Speaker 7>drafted their board, you know, and there clearly was a

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<v Speaker 7>gap between what we thought with McMillan and any other

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<v Speaker 7>receiver that was on that board.

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<v Speaker 8>Something else to think about, too, Brian, is Dak is

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<v Speaker 8>older now and think about the moves that they may win.

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<v Speaker 8>Romo got a little older, all right. Tony used to

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<v Speaker 8>throw the ball forty times a game and throw it everywhere.

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<v Speaker 8>We were winning our best football when Tony was throwing

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<v Speaker 8>a twenty five just thirty times a game. Right, give

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<v Speaker 8>the ball to Murry and pound people up front. So

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<v Speaker 8>you know, yeah, Booker's going to be about keeping Dak safe.

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<v Speaker 8>But this is also about we're going to run the

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<v Speaker 8>ball more. And if you're keeping Dak safe and you're

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<v Speaker 8>throwing the ball less, why receiver two is a knee.

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<v Speaker 8>But maybe it's less of a need than what Raguar

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<v Speaker 8>would be and this tells you what they think about

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<v Speaker 8>Hoffman and look shouts out to hoffin Man. Hoffan does everything,

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<v Speaker 8>he does his job and no disrespect to him. But

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<v Speaker 8>last year, when Hoffman was projected to be the center,

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<v Speaker 8>we win, got a center that was powerful. And this

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<v Speaker 8>year when he was projected to be the right guard,

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<v Speaker 8>we went and got a right guard that was powerful.

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<v Speaker 8>But I think Hoffman will be around. You know, you

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<v Speaker 8>need these guys, you need ten or eleven offensive line.

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<v Speaker 8>But just as much as wide receiver was in need,

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<v Speaker 8>they looked at the right guard and said that that

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<v Speaker 8>was in need as well, and they just thought Booker

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<v Speaker 8>was a better dude.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I definitely think you still obviously need a wide receiver. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>the way that you look at how they went about it,

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<v Speaker 5>I think that they're sticking with exactly what they've been

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<v Speaker 5>saying since Brian Schottenheimer took over. He's emphasized the need

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<v Speaker 5>of returning that running game, establishing the run, and that's

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<v Speaker 5>where it all starts. You have to have a solid

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<v Speaker 5>offensive line that is able not only to protect Dak

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<v Speaker 5>because again remembering that he's returning from that injury, but

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<v Speaker 5>also be able to create a running game. Create those

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<v Speaker 5>gaps for those guys. And we've seen the best football

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<v Speaker 5>that has been played here has been when you have

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<v Speaker 5>a very solidified offensive line, and I think that's where

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<v Speaker 5>it starts and what they're trying to do here. So

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<v Speaker 5>I'm not mad about them going for a guy like him. Actually,

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<v Speaker 5>and even after he got here and the way that

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<v Speaker 5>he speaks and everything that he said, I'm even more impressed.

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<v Speaker 5>And you look at the press conference the way that

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<v Speaker 5>Jerry Steven and even Brian Seldon Haimer were looking at him.

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<v Speaker 5>While they look like proud Brian looking at him.

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<v Speaker 2>They had that proud Bryan. Yeah. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>So it's exciting. It's exciting to see that they're doing

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<v Speaker 5>exactly what they've said they're wanting to do, and it's

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<v Speaker 5>starting to take some shape and form quickly.

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<v Speaker 8>No, something that just bothers me is I'm just looking

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<v Speaker 8>all over the league and I say, boy, Josh Allen

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<v Speaker 8>just won a big time game. He only threw the

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<v Speaker 8>ball fifteen times. Yeah, or Jalen hurts through for one

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<v Speaker 8>hundred and fifteen rushows, they blew somebody out.

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<v Speaker 3>How did this happen?

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<v Speaker 8>They're taking pressure off of their court now when it's

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<v Speaker 8>for your quarterback to win, they'll go win and Dak

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<v Speaker 8>can't do that. That's proven to you that he can

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<v Speaker 8>get into a shootout and throw the ball fifty times

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<v Speaker 8>and put points on the board.

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<v Speaker 3>He can do that.

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<v Speaker 8>But I get jealous when I see these other quarterbacks

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<v Speaker 8>that get the credit. Jimmy Garrappolo won a conference championship

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<v Speaker 8>game throwing the ball eleven times, and they say, boy,

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<v Speaker 8>Jimmy Grapplo went out there and won a playoff game.

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<v Speaker 3>That doesn't get that.

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<v Speaker 8>So I'm excited that hopefully this year, next year, whatever happens,

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<v Speaker 8>that will hopefully start winning games like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they're They've been very clear.

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<v Speaker 6>You look at what they've done in the coaching hires

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<v Speaker 6>that they've made with Clayton Adams and Connor Riley all

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<v Speaker 6>the way to this pick with Booker.

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<v Speaker 2>They are.

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<v Speaker 6>I was telling somebody the other day, I was like,

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<v Speaker 6>for the first time in a little while, I feel

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<v Speaker 6>like there is a clear, a very clear strategic path,

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<v Speaker 6>Like they know what they want to do, and they

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<v Speaker 6>are doing exactly what they want to do, and I

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<v Speaker 6>think it's all go to line out.

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<v Speaker 2>In them being able to run the ball.

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<v Speaker 6>And now we will see if they have the running

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<v Speaker 6>backs to be able to do the things that they

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<v Speaker 6>want to do. They've got some guys in this draft

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<v Speaker 6>we'll talk about a little later that we think have

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<v Speaker 6>some potential. But all that being said, it is very

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<v Speaker 6>clear strategically what they want to do, and that is

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<v Speaker 6>to be able to run the ball effectively, and I

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<v Speaker 6>think they're they're putting all the pieces in place to

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<v Speaker 6>be able to do that.

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<v Speaker 3>Draft.

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<v Speaker 6>Cowboys draft Edge Donovan as a ROKU from Boston College,

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<v Speaker 6>shad out to the Queues. And here's the interesting thing

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<v Speaker 6>about him. Everything suggests to me from what I've seen,

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<v Speaker 6>from what I've read, the film I've watched, that this

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<v Speaker 6>is a really, really, really great player. He was second

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<v Speaker 6>in in all of college football with regards to the

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<v Speaker 6>number of sacks, and if I heard the correct he

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<v Speaker 6>was first in overall pressures in college.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I thought I heard that's.

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<v Speaker 3>Sixteen Saxon about forty pressures.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, that all being said, why was he available in

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<v Speaker 6>the second round?

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<v Speaker 8>He's six y two and Derrick, this is your first

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<v Speaker 8>time hearing me say this in Ambar as well. Teams

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<v Speaker 8>suck at drafting. Teams aren't very good.

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<v Speaker 2>I've heard you say, because I listen to the draft shops.

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<v Speaker 3>Team teams aren't good at this.

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<v Speaker 8>And I think sometimes teams have their own measurables and

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<v Speaker 8>they'll overthink things and they'll go, well, he's two hundred

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<v Speaker 8>and forty pounds. That may not fit the metric that

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<v Speaker 8>we're looking for. We want to get a guy like

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<v Speaker 8>Mike Keil Williams who doesn't get sacks in the league,

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<v Speaker 8>but at least he's about two eighty and he's tall.

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<v Speaker 8>But the Cowboys have a type and they love arm

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<v Speaker 8>length and Donovan has those has those long arms, brown

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<v Speaker 8>like thirty three inch arms I believe in. And you

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<v Speaker 8>see that shine in his pass rushing and he's a

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<v Speaker 8>dude that knows how to pass rush right now. And

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<v Speaker 8>I just personally feel that if you get sacks in college,

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<v Speaker 8>then you will get sacks in the league. He's not

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<v Speaker 8>a guy that we're gonna sit around and just wait

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<v Speaker 8>on him to pick up pass rushing. He's ready to

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<v Speaker 8>go right now. He's solid in the run game for

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<v Speaker 8>his size. I don't think he would be a Day

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<v Speaker 8>one run defender right now because the Cowboys have have

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<v Speaker 8>run defenders right now. Marshall Niland will be doing run

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<v Speaker 8>defending things right now. But as far as your NASCAR package,

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<v Speaker 8>I call the end game, Uh, you got Donovan, Micah,

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<v Speaker 8>Dante Sam if he gives you anything, you you you

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<v Speaker 8>have a lot of names you could just throw at quarterbacks.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this is uh.

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<v Speaker 7>You know when him and Mike Green from Marshall who

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<v Speaker 7>ended up going later in the draft beat, you know,

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<v Speaker 7>because of some of the things that he was dealing

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<v Speaker 7>with on a personal level and stuff. And the Ravens

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<v Speaker 7>I think got a heck of a pick there. But

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<v Speaker 7>the thing about it, he was one of if you

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<v Speaker 7>ab dua Carter was like the number one guy in

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<v Speaker 7>a lot of folks spoorts and then all of a sudden, Hey, now,

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<v Speaker 7>now tell me who the next best pass rushers are.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, Donovan was one of these guys. He was

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<v Speaker 7>clearly into that, into that way. And you know when

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<v Speaker 7>you watched him play, the ability to to bend the corner,

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<v Speaker 7>to attack the shoulder, to get low, to finish where

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<v Speaker 7>the quarterback is, the fact that they move him around,

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<v Speaker 7>he stands up, hand down, left side right. You can

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<v Speaker 7>put them at mike linebacker. This is very much like

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<v Speaker 7>what they do with Michael Parsons in that type of player.

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<v Speaker 7>And he was.

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<v Speaker 2>He was one of the.

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<v Speaker 7>Top three pass rushers in this draft. And sometimes the

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<v Speaker 7>draft GUIDs do smile on you. And this is another

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<v Speaker 7>example I think of Dallas. We didn't go into this

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<v Speaker 7>talking about, oh, they're going to draft an edge.

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<v Speaker 2>We really didn't.

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<v Speaker 7>We were talking about a lot of at forty four,

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<v Speaker 7>we were talking about the possibly of a one technique

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<v Speaker 7>defensive tackle. We're talking about running backs. Maybe a cornerback

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<v Speaker 7>was in play here, wasn't the edge rusher.

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<v Speaker 12>Though.

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<v Speaker 7>This is another great example of them sticking to that

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<v Speaker 7>board and drafting the best player on it.

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<v Speaker 3>Where's you have on yours?

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<v Speaker 7>He was number twenty six.

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<v Speaker 2>Twenty Did you give him first round grade? No, that

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<v Speaker 2>would be second because he had fifteen first round You

0:19:45.240 --> 0:19:47.200
<v Speaker 2>had eighteen first round yeah, fifteen.

0:19:46.840 --> 0:19:49.280
<v Speaker 7>First round grades. Yeah, so I had him at twenty six.

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<v Speaker 7>It's funny how the Cowboys drafted for me in reverse order,

0:19:53.240 --> 0:19:57.119
<v Speaker 7>Like their first player was my third best player, the

0:19:57.160 --> 0:19:59.879
<v Speaker 7>second was the second, and then the third was I had.

0:20:00.240 --> 0:20:03.359
<v Speaker 7>I had a revel as a as a number twelve

0:20:03.359 --> 0:20:05.840
<v Speaker 7>on my board, so they went in reverse order of

0:20:05.840 --> 0:20:06.719
<v Speaker 7>how I would have had it.

0:20:07.320 --> 0:20:09.520
<v Speaker 5>Well, again, it just goes to show that just like

0:20:09.560 --> 0:20:12.360
<v Speaker 5>you said, they're sticking, they stuck to their board, They

0:20:12.960 --> 0:20:15.800
<v Speaker 5>stuck to the type of homework and due diligence that

0:20:15.840 --> 0:20:18.800
<v Speaker 5>they had done in preparation to this and went for

0:20:18.840 --> 0:20:21.600
<v Speaker 5>a guy that, like you said, Brian, I was not

0:20:21.720 --> 0:20:25.720
<v Speaker 5>expecting a defensive end whatsoever for them to draft in

0:20:25.840 --> 0:20:29.199
<v Speaker 5>the second round. I was looking at again, wide receiver

0:20:29.800 --> 0:20:34.080
<v Speaker 5>and those positions they're running back especially, but not a

0:20:34.080 --> 0:20:36.560
<v Speaker 5>guy like him. But then you start watching him and

0:20:36.600 --> 0:20:41.760
<v Speaker 5>you're like Okay, yeah, this makes sense. Okay, I see why. Yeah,

0:20:41.800 --> 0:20:46.520
<v Speaker 5>So I think again, he has that type of physique

0:20:46.800 --> 0:20:50.560
<v Speaker 5>that the Cowboys like and that will be impactful. And

0:20:50.600 --> 0:20:53.320
<v Speaker 5>I think you start throwing him into the mix, they're

0:20:53.320 --> 0:20:57.040
<v Speaker 5>gonna ease him into action. But the combination of a

0:20:57.080 --> 0:20:59.960
<v Speaker 5>guy like him with everybody else, especially Micah, I think

0:21:00.160 --> 0:21:01.720
<v Speaker 5>can be very very powerful.

0:21:02.080 --> 0:21:03.639
<v Speaker 2>One of the things that stands out to me.

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<v Speaker 6>You look back at twenty twenty three, I think the

0:21:05.800 --> 0:21:08.480
<v Speaker 6>Cowboys had, in my opinion, the best, if not one

0:21:08.480 --> 0:21:11.040
<v Speaker 6>of the best pass rushes in the NFL. They lost

0:21:11.119 --> 0:21:15.040
<v Speaker 6>Durrance Armstrong, they lost Dante Fowler. Now going into twenty

0:21:15.119 --> 0:21:18.120
<v Speaker 6>twenty five, they also lose Tank Clarence, They lose Chauncey Golston.

0:21:18.800 --> 0:21:22.360
<v Speaker 6>They now have Azaraku, Sam Williams will be coming back

0:21:22.359 --> 0:21:25.320
<v Speaker 6>from injury. Marshawn Neeland, who did some things last year.

0:21:25.440 --> 0:21:26.919
<v Speaker 6>I don't think it was a bad year for him

0:21:26.920 --> 0:21:29.640
<v Speaker 6>as a first year player with the injury that he had.

0:21:29.760 --> 0:21:32.200
<v Speaker 6>You get Dante Fowler back, Do you guys think they

0:21:32.200 --> 0:21:34.399
<v Speaker 6>are back now from the standpoint of the horses that

0:21:34.440 --> 0:21:37.800
<v Speaker 6>they had in twenty twenty three? Are they back now

0:21:37.800 --> 0:21:39.640
<v Speaker 6>from the standpoint of the bodies they need in order

0:21:39.640 --> 0:21:42.160
<v Speaker 6>to have that kind of effective pass rush. Obviously Michael

0:21:42.200 --> 0:21:43.760
<v Speaker 6>Parson's being the main stay there.

0:21:43.800 --> 0:21:47.560
<v Speaker 7>If you dress, if you dress the six of the

0:21:47.640 --> 0:21:50.760
<v Speaker 7>ten for a game, then, like you say, we'll see

0:21:50.800 --> 0:21:52.679
<v Speaker 7>what happens. I mean, you got a couple of guys

0:21:52.720 --> 0:21:57.199
<v Speaker 7>with Turner and Niland that are better run defenders, and

0:21:57.240 --> 0:22:00.720
<v Speaker 7>then you've got four legitimate pass rush guys. They could

0:22:00.760 --> 0:22:03.600
<v Speaker 7>come at you that way. And so yeah, I I

0:22:03.720 --> 0:22:07.320
<v Speaker 7>like I like the combination. Uh there was it always

0:22:07.600 --> 0:22:09.560
<v Speaker 7>you know, was you got to think about, Okay, what

0:22:09.600 --> 0:22:11.040
<v Speaker 7>are the guys that are going to play left in

0:22:11.200 --> 0:22:12.720
<v Speaker 7>who's going to play when you know a lot of

0:22:12.720 --> 0:22:14.840
<v Speaker 7>teams are right handed and when they run the football,

0:22:15.040 --> 0:22:16.399
<v Speaker 7>are you going to have some people over that? I

0:22:16.440 --> 0:22:19.280
<v Speaker 7>think they protected themselves, like I say, Neil, And as

0:22:19.280 --> 0:22:21.480
<v Speaker 7>you mentioned, Derek was getting better as a pass rusher

0:22:21.560 --> 0:22:23.800
<v Speaker 7>until he got hurt. And then once he got hurt,

0:22:23.880 --> 0:22:25.879
<v Speaker 7>then you know he had to kind of restart things

0:22:25.880 --> 0:22:29.359
<v Speaker 7>all over again, missing that time. But him and Turner

0:22:29.440 --> 0:22:31.840
<v Speaker 7>on that left side, and then now you mix and

0:22:31.880 --> 0:22:35.600
<v Speaker 7>match the others, you know with with Micah, Yeah, you're

0:22:35.680 --> 0:22:38.720
<v Speaker 7>back to that level. I really liked what I saw

0:22:38.760 --> 0:22:41.399
<v Speaker 7>from Fouler last year playing from the Commanders, Yeah, he

0:22:41.440 --> 0:22:44.320
<v Speaker 7>played well, yeah, it was it was more than that.

0:22:44.440 --> 0:22:45.160
<v Speaker 7>He double ditch.

0:22:45.160 --> 0:22:47.399
<v Speaker 2>I think he had ten.

0:22:48.040 --> 0:22:51.280
<v Speaker 7>It's ten and a half, so yeah, to me, that's

0:22:51.640 --> 0:22:55.040
<v Speaker 7>he was actually playing the run pretty well. So that

0:22:55.040 --> 0:22:57.119
<v Speaker 7>that that right, there is a bonus as well. So

0:22:57.400 --> 0:23:00.959
<v Speaker 7>if you're going to dress six uh six linemen are

0:23:01.080 --> 0:23:03.639
<v Speaker 7>six ends every week, two of them could play the

0:23:03.680 --> 0:23:06.040
<v Speaker 7>adge against the run and then you got the other

0:23:06.119 --> 0:23:07.520
<v Speaker 7>four that can get after you.

0:23:07.840 --> 0:23:11.240
<v Speaker 8>What'll be different is sometimes Tank Lawrence would find himself

0:23:11.280 --> 0:23:13.720
<v Speaker 8>on the field just because he's Tank Lawrence, but he

0:23:13.760 --> 0:23:16.560
<v Speaker 8>wasn't pass rush guy, but seniority would just have him

0:23:16.600 --> 0:23:18.720
<v Speaker 8>on the field in some kind of way. I don't

0:23:18.720 --> 0:23:21.000
<v Speaker 8>think the Cowboys are gonna fall for that this year.

0:23:21.040 --> 0:23:23.120
<v Speaker 8>I think they got pass rushers in their pass rush

0:23:23.160 --> 0:23:25.200
<v Speaker 8>category and they got to run guys, and if it's

0:23:25.240 --> 0:23:27.920
<v Speaker 8>a NASCAR type situation, I don't think you're gonna see

0:23:27.920 --> 0:23:29.640
<v Speaker 8>Tanker on the field. I actually looked up the number.

0:23:29.680 --> 0:23:32.639
<v Speaker 8>Donovan has sixty pressures. Sixty that's a lot. Yes, it's

0:23:32.640 --> 0:23:35.080
<v Speaker 8>a ton, and it's not like he's pressure guy and

0:23:35.119 --> 0:23:36.680
<v Speaker 8>he's not getting sacks. He still has six he and

0:23:36.720 --> 0:23:39.280
<v Speaker 8>to have sex to account for. So you know, Donovan

0:23:39.440 --> 0:23:43.160
<v Speaker 8>being a rookie in a pure pass rush role, that'll

0:23:43.200 --> 0:23:45.160
<v Speaker 8>definitely work for him. Shout out to you, Donovan, day one,

0:23:45.240 --> 0:23:48.160
<v Speaker 8>you will be ready. But if Sam gives you anything,

0:23:48.600 --> 0:23:51.000
<v Speaker 8>what's the number? If Sam gives you eight sacks, seven sacks.

0:23:51.800 --> 0:23:53.880
<v Speaker 8>If Sam gives you give me six, well play sacks,

0:23:53.920 --> 0:23:57.240
<v Speaker 8>I'm good. I'll celebrate. I'll celebrate Sam being your fourth

0:23:57.280 --> 0:24:00.600
<v Speaker 8>guy giving you six sacs. So I think they had

0:24:00.640 --> 0:24:04.119
<v Speaker 8>the opportunity to be better than that crew, but we

0:24:04.240 --> 0:24:06.280
<v Speaker 8>just have to see all Let's.

0:24:06.080 --> 0:24:08.520
<v Speaker 6>Talk about the third round pick. Cowboys pick up a cornerback,

0:24:08.720 --> 0:24:12.200
<v Speaker 6>a Savonne Revel out of East Carolina, and he missed

0:24:12.240 --> 0:24:14.240
<v Speaker 6>most of last year with an injury for those that

0:24:14.359 --> 0:24:16.800
<v Speaker 6>don't know, but how much do you think that injury

0:24:17.160 --> 0:24:19.240
<v Speaker 6>is going to affect his ability to be able to

0:24:19.240 --> 0:24:22.199
<v Speaker 6>play immediately? Because I think for the Cowboys, particularly at

0:24:22.240 --> 0:24:24.680
<v Speaker 6>the cornerback position, one of the challenges for them is

0:24:24.760 --> 0:24:27.040
<v Speaker 6>what's going to happen early. You already got Trayvon Diggs

0:24:27.040 --> 0:24:29.040
<v Speaker 6>coming back from an injury. What do you think is

0:24:29.040 --> 0:24:30.960
<v Speaker 6>the prospect that he'll be ready to play early in

0:24:30.960 --> 0:24:33.520
<v Speaker 6>the season when you probably will need that kind of reinforcement.

0:24:33.640 --> 0:24:35.399
<v Speaker 7>This is one of my favorite players in the draft,

0:24:35.840 --> 0:24:38.720
<v Speaker 7>and if he had not had the knee injury, he

0:24:38.720 --> 0:24:42.159
<v Speaker 7>would be the top corner likely off the board. His length,

0:24:42.280 --> 0:24:47.800
<v Speaker 7>his reach is incredible. The thing that got me excited

0:24:47.840 --> 0:24:50.040
<v Speaker 7>about him as a player is a couple of things.

0:24:50.760 --> 0:24:55.080
<v Speaker 7>I know doctor Dan Cooper and how what a outstanding

0:24:55.119 --> 0:24:57.719
<v Speaker 7>surgeon he is, and how he puts these players back together,

0:24:58.080 --> 0:24:59.560
<v Speaker 7>you know. I mean there's several of them, and there's

0:24:59.560 --> 0:25:01.960
<v Speaker 7>people in the National Football League other teams that come

0:25:02.359 --> 0:25:04.280
<v Speaker 7>and see doctor Cooper and let him do the knee

0:25:04.280 --> 0:25:07.120
<v Speaker 7>searcheres because he's that damn good. You're in a situation

0:25:07.200 --> 0:25:09.560
<v Speaker 7>too with Britt Brown, and I've worked with Britt for

0:25:09.720 --> 0:25:12.240
<v Speaker 7>fourteen fifteen years. I know what he could do to

0:25:12.280 --> 0:25:14.679
<v Speaker 7>get guys back on the field. This guy has a

0:25:14.680 --> 0:25:18.560
<v Speaker 7>tremendous attitude, He has a tremendous work ethic. He wants

0:25:18.680 --> 0:25:21.600
<v Speaker 7>he wants it very badly. And you pair him up

0:25:21.600 --> 0:25:23.760
<v Speaker 7>with a guy like Britt Brown who will push him.

0:25:23.960 --> 0:25:26.520
<v Speaker 7>And he's been working here in Dallas, you know, on

0:25:26.600 --> 0:25:28.520
<v Speaker 7>his rehab stuff, and now Britt's going to get a

0:25:28.600 --> 0:25:30.720
<v Speaker 7>chance to have him out on the field and working

0:25:30.760 --> 0:25:32.960
<v Speaker 7>with him every day, I would say this thing is

0:25:32.960 --> 0:25:35.440
<v Speaker 7>probably going to be more sooner than later about him

0:25:35.640 --> 0:25:38.720
<v Speaker 7>and his ability to come back and be and once

0:25:38.720 --> 0:25:41.520
<v Speaker 7>again play at a very high level. This guy is long,

0:25:41.760 --> 0:25:44.800
<v Speaker 7>he's rangy, he's physical. There was a game where you

0:25:44.840 --> 0:25:47.159
<v Speaker 7>watch him play against Michigan where the ball goes on

0:25:47.200 --> 0:25:49.280
<v Speaker 7>the goal line and you're thinking it's going to be

0:25:49.359 --> 0:25:52.560
<v Speaker 7>a touchdown and he steps up at the two yard line,

0:25:52.640 --> 0:25:55.200
<v Speaker 7>meets the back on the edge and drives the back

0:25:55.400 --> 0:25:59.439
<v Speaker 7>back into and for no gain. Sometimes these corners just

0:25:59.440 --> 0:26:02.720
<v Speaker 7>give up, give it the matador, the ola, whatever. This

0:26:02.840 --> 0:26:05.679
<v Speaker 7>kid's not that way. There's a lot of toughness in

0:26:05.760 --> 0:26:09.240
<v Speaker 7>his body and he's a very determined player. I think

0:26:09.280 --> 0:26:12.000
<v Speaker 7>they stole one here, I really really do. And I

0:26:12.320 --> 0:26:15.480
<v Speaker 7>think that that again, it's about your board. It was

0:26:15.520 --> 0:26:17.560
<v Speaker 7>where they had him on the board. This was my

0:26:17.680 --> 0:26:22.479
<v Speaker 7>twelfth best player overall. With the injury. I loved watching

0:26:22.480 --> 0:26:25.399
<v Speaker 7>this kid play and I said, you listen, I know

0:26:25.520 --> 0:26:28.040
<v Speaker 7>doctor Cooper. I know he's going to fix this kid,

0:26:28.160 --> 0:26:30.159
<v Speaker 7>and wherever he goes, he's going to be okay. He

0:26:30.280 --> 0:26:32.120
<v Speaker 7>just happened to show up in my backyard, and I'm

0:26:32.119 --> 0:26:33.000
<v Speaker 7>really happy about it.

0:26:33.760 --> 0:26:36.560
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, this is the best value pick that the guy

0:26:36.760 --> 0:26:39.240
<v Speaker 5>was made in this draft, and a guy like him,

0:26:39.280 --> 0:26:41.879
<v Speaker 5>I mean I expected something like this more inc with

0:26:42.000 --> 0:26:46.280
<v Speaker 5>that second round pick, because that's historically what the coup

0:26:46.480 --> 0:26:48.680
<v Speaker 5>was do in the second round. And then they picked

0:26:48.920 --> 0:26:52.159
<v Speaker 5>Don't event and I'm like, Okay, made it out of

0:26:52.160 --> 0:26:55.160
<v Speaker 5>that one. And then we go and draft a guy

0:26:55.320 --> 0:26:59.439
<v Speaker 5>like him, and I'm like, if I'm being honest, my

0:26:59.520 --> 0:27:02.920
<v Speaker 5>thing is, yeah, I'm all for a good recovery story.

0:27:03.320 --> 0:27:06.000
<v Speaker 5>But if I pick you, I want you healthy and

0:27:06.080 --> 0:27:10.440
<v Speaker 5>ready to play. Now ready to go. But again, everything

0:27:10.480 --> 0:27:13.560
<v Speaker 5>that you just said, Brian, Obviously, the Cowboys are not

0:27:13.720 --> 0:27:17.639
<v Speaker 5>just randomly picking guys. They do all the work that

0:27:17.680 --> 0:27:20.760
<v Speaker 5>they need to do, and especially trusting the doctor that

0:27:20.800 --> 0:27:23.960
<v Speaker 5>he had the surgery with, they have a good understanding

0:27:24.800 --> 0:27:28.040
<v Speaker 5>of everything that went on with that injury. And he's

0:27:28.119 --> 0:27:31.560
<v Speaker 5>expected to be ready, hopefully by training camp or beginning

0:27:31.600 --> 0:27:33.959
<v Speaker 5>of week one of the season, so it's not like

0:27:34.160 --> 0:27:36.920
<v Speaker 5>he's expected to be out the whole season. He will

0:27:36.960 --> 0:27:40.520
<v Speaker 5>be able to at least contribute at some point this year.

0:27:40.560 --> 0:27:42.440
<v Speaker 5>I would imagine that we get a chance to see

0:27:42.480 --> 0:27:43.640
<v Speaker 5>him on the field for sure.

0:27:43.720 --> 0:27:46.679
<v Speaker 7>I think sooner than later with him his demeanor and

0:27:46.800 --> 0:27:51.160
<v Speaker 7>Britt's determination. That is a very good combination right there.

0:27:51.200 --> 0:27:53.439
<v Speaker 7>We see what Britt was able to do with overshown

0:27:53.520 --> 0:27:58.399
<v Speaker 7>and others. You know, he's really good at this rehab stuff,

0:27:58.760 --> 0:28:01.399
<v Speaker 7>and you know he understand you know, Brett knows the

0:28:01.440 --> 0:28:03.959
<v Speaker 7>importance of that. We're a little down right now here

0:28:04.000 --> 0:28:06.320
<v Speaker 7>at corner. They got to get this guy ready. There

0:28:06.359 --> 0:28:09.000
<v Speaker 7>can't be any questions about him being ready for the season.

0:28:09.320 --> 0:28:11.080
<v Speaker 7>It's got to be. Hey, we got to get him

0:28:11.119 --> 0:28:13.520
<v Speaker 7>ready for week one to go out there and be

0:28:13.560 --> 0:28:14.200
<v Speaker 7>ready to play.

0:28:14.600 --> 0:28:18.040
<v Speaker 8>You know, just as a college player, just as a prospect.

0:28:18.160 --> 0:28:20.480
<v Speaker 8>He's better than what Digs was. He's better than what

0:28:20.640 --> 0:28:23.280
<v Speaker 8>Bland was. Now it matters when you get to the league,

0:28:23.320 --> 0:28:25.960
<v Speaker 8>you know, because they know he has not played it

0:28:26.000 --> 0:28:27.600
<v Speaker 8>down yet, so I don't want to put that on him.

0:28:27.720 --> 0:28:31.119
<v Speaker 8>But just watching his film versus those those guys, just

0:28:31.320 --> 0:28:35.439
<v Speaker 8>height weight, coming up and tackling speed like man covers,

0:28:35.520 --> 0:28:37.679
<v Speaker 8>zone covers, whatever you want to do. He didn't have

0:28:37.720 --> 0:28:39.640
<v Speaker 8>a lot of picks because he was dropping Brian bro Is.

0:28:39.680 --> 0:28:41.400
<v Speaker 8>Just watching this film, he'll get close to those picks.

0:28:41.480 --> 0:28:43.200
<v Speaker 8>We just wouldn't hold on to him. Hey, man, what

0:28:43.280 --> 0:28:43.960
<v Speaker 8>is coaching for.

0:28:44.160 --> 0:28:45.040
<v Speaker 3>You know what I mean, fix up?

0:28:45.120 --> 0:28:48.880
<v Speaker 2>You know we're machines for right, put him on.

0:28:48.840 --> 0:28:52.280
<v Speaker 8>The jugs, Brian. But Revel, I think this is where

0:28:52.400 --> 0:28:55.360
<v Speaker 8>me and Brian disagree a little bit, because knees are tricky,

0:28:55.160 --> 0:28:58.080
<v Speaker 8>and he plays corner cornerback's knee those So what I

0:28:58.080 --> 0:29:00.800
<v Speaker 8>would have wanted if the Cowboys were to double up anywhere,

0:29:00.800 --> 0:29:03.400
<v Speaker 8>I would have wanted them to draft another corner so

0:29:03.440 --> 0:29:05.360
<v Speaker 8>that now we could at least go all right, Rebel,

0:29:05.440 --> 0:29:07.200
<v Speaker 8>if you show up to training camp and you are

0:29:07.240 --> 0:29:09.760
<v Speaker 8>who you are, good, but just in case you're not,

0:29:10.120 --> 0:29:12.000
<v Speaker 8>we'll have another guy that we could play, and we

0:29:12.040 --> 0:29:14.160
<v Speaker 8>can just bring you along at your own pace, and

0:29:14.200 --> 0:29:16.320
<v Speaker 8>then maybe year two and year three you would be

0:29:16.360 --> 0:29:18.600
<v Speaker 8>who you are. And one more thing that kind of

0:29:18.640 --> 0:29:20.680
<v Speaker 8>bothers me about this is I've been waiting for this

0:29:20.760 --> 0:29:23.680
<v Speaker 8>big three at corner for so long, but guys just

0:29:23.720 --> 0:29:26.600
<v Speaker 8>keep getting hurt here. We never get the all three

0:29:26.600 --> 0:29:28.640
<v Speaker 8>corners on the field the same time, even wide receiver.

0:29:28.760 --> 0:29:31.720
<v Speaker 8>But I think Rebel's gonna be Digs insurance for the walls.

0:29:31.800 --> 0:29:33.800
<v Speaker 7>Well, let me tell you this, I'm more concerned about

0:29:34.040 --> 0:29:36.600
<v Speaker 7>Diggs than I am Rebel. Yeah, for sure, that's just

0:29:36.760 --> 0:29:39.800
<v Speaker 7>being honest right there. I mean, that's you know, when

0:29:39.800 --> 0:29:42.120
<v Speaker 7>you start to talk about how to come back and

0:29:42.120 --> 0:29:44.480
<v Speaker 7>get back and be ready to go. I have more

0:29:44.480 --> 0:29:46.320
<v Speaker 7>concerned about Digs than I do the other kid.

0:29:46.480 --> 0:29:48.040
<v Speaker 6>Well, I think from the way they're looking at it,

0:29:48.200 --> 0:29:50.760
<v Speaker 6>to your point, Vatch, I think they're thinking that Elam

0:29:50.840 --> 0:29:53.320
<v Speaker 6>is that guy that gives them that kind of insurance

0:29:53.400 --> 0:29:57.160
<v Speaker 6>in case Rebel isn't ready to go immediately. Whether that

0:29:57.200 --> 0:29:58.960
<v Speaker 6>proves to be true or not, who knows, but I

0:29:58.960 --> 0:30:00.800
<v Speaker 6>think that's how they at least will look at it.

0:30:01.400 --> 0:30:03.360
<v Speaker 6>And as you say, Brian, I know you you're a

0:30:03.360 --> 0:30:06.520
<v Speaker 6>big fan of Kaylen Carson. There's still of hope that

0:30:06.520 --> 0:30:09.320
<v Speaker 6>that he's going to develop and that the injury was

0:30:09.400 --> 0:30:11.640
<v Speaker 6>more of what we saw last year that that maybe

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<v Speaker 6>that's why he didn't develop in the way they wanted

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<v Speaker 6>to throughout the year, more so than than him just

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<v Speaker 6>not developing. So I think they're gonna they have hopes

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<v Speaker 6>for both of those guys. I know hope is not

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<v Speaker 6>a strategy, but I think they have hope. I know,

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<v Speaker 6>but that but that's that's how they're thinking about it,

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<v Speaker 6>and and so when they look at it, they may

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<v Speaker 6>say hey, we we got one corner. We'll add him

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<v Speaker 6>to the mix of the other guys we got and

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<v Speaker 6>hopefully one of these guys steps into that role at

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<v Speaker 6>least until Dix can be back. All right, let's talk

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<v Speaker 6>Cowboys select running back Jayden Blew out of Texas Longhorns.

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<v Speaker 6>What do you guys think? What do you think of

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<v Speaker 6>the pick? And and where he fits? Immediately, I'll tell

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<v Speaker 6>you what I think. First of all, he is a guy.

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<v Speaker 6>I look at him and my my my standard for

0:33:50.120 --> 0:33:51.600
<v Speaker 6>him because I think some people are like man, he

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<v Speaker 6>never really started at Texas. The thing about is Texas

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<v Speaker 6>has so much talent at this point, it's kind of

0:33:56.080 --> 0:33:58.440
<v Speaker 6>like a Georgia Bama these other things, like you can

0:33:58.480 --> 0:34:00.520
<v Speaker 6>have a deep room. I think to Shark Choice, who

0:34:00.600 --> 0:34:03.440
<v Speaker 6>was their coach in college, put out this picture of

0:34:03.480 --> 0:34:05.080
<v Speaker 6>the bench and you could see it from the back,

0:34:05.120 --> 0:34:07.880
<v Speaker 6>and they had all five running backs that were at

0:34:07.920 --> 0:34:09.800
<v Speaker 6>there at the time, all the way up to b

0:34:09.920 --> 0:34:12.320
<v Speaker 6>John Robinson and they all are now in the NFL.

0:34:13.080 --> 0:34:14.840
<v Speaker 6>I look at this very similar to what happened with

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<v Speaker 6>Priest Holmes coming out of Texas. When I was at school,

0:34:17.440 --> 0:34:19.640
<v Speaker 6>Priest Holmes was there and Preece Holmes was a He

0:34:19.680 --> 0:34:21.640
<v Speaker 6>was an extra guy. He didn't really do a whole

0:34:21.640 --> 0:34:24.600
<v Speaker 6>lot of Texas he went undrafted, he went in, and

0:34:24.640 --> 0:34:27.000
<v Speaker 6>the rest is history with what he did in Kansas City.

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<v Speaker 2>I think Jayden.

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<v Speaker 6>Blue has the kind of skill that makes him an

0:34:31.480 --> 0:34:35.560
<v Speaker 6>interesting prospect. He's extremely fast. He's actually not what you

0:34:35.560 --> 0:34:37.319
<v Speaker 6>typically you think of a bass guy. You think he's

0:34:37.320 --> 0:34:40.080
<v Speaker 6>just out running everybody to the outside. That's not his game.

0:34:40.160 --> 0:34:42.640
<v Speaker 6>He actually runs up the gut quite a bit. But

0:34:42.719 --> 0:34:45.440
<v Speaker 6>he's quick with It's not just speed, it's quickness. He

0:34:45.480 --> 0:34:49.520
<v Speaker 6>knows how to move and maneuver football player with track speed. Yeah, yeah,

0:34:49.520 --> 0:34:51.239
<v Speaker 6>really is, and so he can do a lot. He

0:34:51.320 --> 0:34:53.440
<v Speaker 6>can he can catch the ball well out of the backfield.

0:34:54.040 --> 0:34:55.960
<v Speaker 6>I think all the way around, this is a really

0:34:55.960 --> 0:34:57.759
<v Speaker 6>really good player that you're able to get in the

0:34:57.760 --> 0:35:00.399
<v Speaker 6>fifth round. It just speaks to again what all said

0:35:00.440 --> 0:35:02.320
<v Speaker 6>and what you guys have been saying the whole draft season.

0:35:02.320 --> 0:35:06.000
<v Speaker 6>This was a very, very very deep running back class.

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<v Speaker 6>To get somebody of this caliber in the fifth round.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, when we had a chance to talk to you know,

0:35:11.680 --> 0:35:15.360
<v Speaker 7>coach Adams about the you know, I asked him the question,

0:35:15.520 --> 0:35:17.640
<v Speaker 7>what are you looking for in a running back in

0:35:17.719 --> 0:35:21.680
<v Speaker 7>this scheme? And the one thing he said was contact balance.

0:35:22.400 --> 0:35:24.040
<v Speaker 7>This kid right here is one of the best in

0:35:24.040 --> 0:35:28.080
<v Speaker 7>the nation when it came to contact yards after contact,

0:35:28.520 --> 0:35:31.680
<v Speaker 7>and you could see him just his ability to break

0:35:31.880 --> 0:35:33.080
<v Speaker 7>people down in.

0:35:33.160 --> 0:35:35.880
<v Speaker 2>Space where that movie just pounced somebody.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, you know, he he was one of the best

0:35:37.880 --> 0:35:39.680
<v Speaker 7>in the country when it came to He would get

0:35:39.719 --> 0:35:41.799
<v Speaker 7>hit behind the line of scrimmage and still manage three

0:35:41.800 --> 0:35:44.759
<v Speaker 7>and a half yards of carry after getting hit. So

0:35:44.960 --> 0:35:48.480
<v Speaker 7>he has that kind of ability to make people miss.

0:35:48.840 --> 0:35:52.680
<v Speaker 7>He is outstanding when it comes to his ability to

0:35:52.840 --> 0:35:55.319
<v Speaker 7>run inside to show toughness. You know, he's not a

0:35:55.360 --> 0:35:58.720
<v Speaker 7>small guy. He's five ninety's one hundred and ninety six pounds.

0:35:59.040 --> 0:36:01.840
<v Speaker 7>That's a thick guy. You know, he's he's he's not

0:36:01.880 --> 0:36:03.839
<v Speaker 7>one of these guys you just have to worry about

0:36:03.880 --> 0:36:06.200
<v Speaker 7>the wear and tear on him. Is is you know,

0:36:06.280 --> 0:36:08.359
<v Speaker 7>I don't think that's going to be a problem. The

0:36:08.520 --> 0:36:11.279
<v Speaker 7>questions that people have always had about him is the

0:36:11.320 --> 0:36:15.080
<v Speaker 7>ball security. That's the thing, and you wonder is this

0:36:15.239 --> 0:36:17.359
<v Speaker 7>something that he's going to have to deal with. You know,

0:36:17.520 --> 0:36:21.520
<v Speaker 7>my own personal experience as a former person pro personnel

0:36:21.520 --> 0:36:24.799
<v Speaker 7>guy and an advanced scout, if I knew there was

0:36:24.840 --> 0:36:27.239
<v Speaker 7>a player that you could try and knock the ball

0:36:27.280 --> 0:36:29.920
<v Speaker 7>out of his hands and attack the ball or tackle

0:36:29.960 --> 0:36:32.319
<v Speaker 7>the ball, and he was going to give it up.

0:36:32.600 --> 0:36:34.560
<v Speaker 7>This is something that this kid is going to fight

0:36:34.640 --> 0:36:37.000
<v Speaker 7>with and he's going to have to prove to people

0:36:37.360 --> 0:36:41.040
<v Speaker 7>that the ball security is not a problem. And once

0:36:41.080 --> 0:36:43.120
<v Speaker 7>he does that, then you'll get people to kind of

0:36:43.320 --> 0:36:46.319
<v Speaker 7>to stay away from that. But his reputation as being

0:36:46.360 --> 0:36:49.399
<v Speaker 7>a guy that has toughness, but the ball security could

0:36:49.440 --> 0:36:49.960
<v Speaker 7>be the question.

0:36:50.080 --> 0:36:52.000
<v Speaker 2>That's the one thing that I think kept him.

0:36:51.840 --> 0:36:54.600
<v Speaker 7>Down the board a little bit was the fact that

0:36:54.680 --> 0:36:58.080
<v Speaker 7>he that would happen to him. And if people are

0:36:58.080 --> 0:37:00.160
<v Speaker 7>going to try and tackle the ball on him, if

0:37:00.160 --> 0:37:03.160
<v Speaker 7>they have success, teams are going to continue to try

0:37:03.200 --> 0:37:04.960
<v Speaker 7>and tackle the ball on him. That film will not

0:37:05.000 --> 0:37:05.480
<v Speaker 7>go away.

0:37:05.760 --> 0:37:07.800
<v Speaker 8>Also, two Cowboy fans, hear me out, we don't have

0:37:07.840 --> 0:37:10.680
<v Speaker 8>a wire receiver too. I understand, don't get upset, but

0:37:10.719 --> 0:37:13.000
<v Speaker 8>we have a Jaden Blue and he will catch a

0:37:13.040 --> 0:37:16.120
<v Speaker 8>ton of passes. He's not a pass catching running back

0:37:16.160 --> 0:37:17.879
<v Speaker 8>in a way of I'm gonna run a Texas route,

0:37:17.880 --> 0:37:19.319
<v Speaker 8>I'm gonna run a swing, that's it.

0:37:19.520 --> 0:37:20.200
<v Speaker 3>He will line up a.

0:37:20.239 --> 0:37:22.960
<v Speaker 8>Slot, he will run cons, he will run posts, he

0:37:23.000 --> 0:37:25.680
<v Speaker 8>will set linebackers in watch the Clemson game and he

0:37:25.719 --> 0:37:27.840
<v Speaker 8>will throw head fakes at you, hand fakes at you.

0:37:27.880 --> 0:37:30.960
<v Speaker 8>He will run all types of routes looking for different

0:37:30.960 --> 0:37:33.399
<v Speaker 8>mismatches or whatnot. And and I think that's where he's

0:37:33.400 --> 0:37:36.239
<v Speaker 8>really going to excel. Shouts out the Deuce man. Deuce

0:37:36.360 --> 0:37:37.799
<v Speaker 8>is gonna have to, you know, fight for his life

0:37:37.800 --> 0:37:39.880
<v Speaker 8>a little bit because Deuce was a pass catcher, but

0:37:39.920 --> 0:37:41.400
<v Speaker 8>a little bitty jade.

0:37:41.520 --> 0:37:41.680
<v Speaker 7>You know.

0:37:41.760 --> 0:37:44.080
<v Speaker 8>Jay Dunn is a little taller, he's a better pass rusher,

0:37:44.120 --> 0:37:46.600
<v Speaker 8>He's a little thicker than Douce, So, uh, he's gonna

0:37:46.640 --> 0:37:49.200
<v Speaker 8>have the edge there. But I don't think you're gonna

0:37:49.239 --> 0:37:52.800
<v Speaker 8>be missing a whole bunch of running back you know. Uh,

0:37:52.880 --> 0:37:55.200
<v Speaker 8>you know pass attempts with him. I mean, he's gonna

0:37:55.200 --> 0:37:56.840
<v Speaker 8>be taking it. And then once he catches it, he

0:37:56.920 --> 0:37:59.560
<v Speaker 8>turns into a four to two guy again and catch

0:38:00.520 --> 0:38:00.960
<v Speaker 8>real quick.

0:38:01.000 --> 0:38:03.000
<v Speaker 7>Derek, if I could, you know, the whole thing with

0:38:03.040 --> 0:38:05.799
<v Speaker 7>the second wide receiver, there's clearly yeah, you would love

0:38:05.840 --> 0:38:08.160
<v Speaker 7>to be able to address that somehow, some way, whether

0:38:08.520 --> 0:38:11.640
<v Speaker 7>it's a trade, free agent signings, there's there's opportunities. You know,

0:38:11.680 --> 0:38:14.080
<v Speaker 7>you talk to people in the organization, they'll tell you, hey,

0:38:14.080 --> 0:38:15.920
<v Speaker 7>we're looking at a lot of wide receivers. I'm very

0:38:15.960 --> 0:38:18.560
<v Speaker 7>encouraged by that part of it all. But now if

0:38:18.600 --> 0:38:21.480
<v Speaker 7>you find a way you get Blue involved, you got Lamb,

0:38:21.960 --> 0:38:23.880
<v Speaker 7>how about Jake Ferguson as well. Can you get a

0:38:23.920 --> 0:38:25.600
<v Speaker 7>bounce back from Jake Ferguson as well?

0:38:25.680 --> 0:38:27.400
<v Speaker 2>Can you mix in Cavante turn and you mix in

0:38:27.480 --> 0:38:28.200
<v Speaker 2>Turpin as well.

0:38:28.280 --> 0:38:31.839
<v Speaker 7>So hopefully you'll have ways to distribute the ball and

0:38:31.880 --> 0:38:34.200
<v Speaker 7>make up for But I do believe they are going

0:38:34.239 --> 0:38:37.360
<v Speaker 7>to go get a receiver that somehow, some way that

0:38:37.680 --> 0:38:40.080
<v Speaker 7>you know, and you've also got you know, June one cuts.

0:38:40.360 --> 0:38:41.680
<v Speaker 7>You know, you want to be able to have to

0:38:41.719 --> 0:38:44.919
<v Speaker 7>have the ability to have the finances to be able

0:38:44.960 --> 0:38:47.200
<v Speaker 7>to go if somebody does get cut, that you can

0:38:47.239 --> 0:38:48.880
<v Speaker 7>go get them and put them, make them part of

0:38:48.880 --> 0:38:50.919
<v Speaker 7>the roster. I I don't think we're I don't think

0:38:51.000 --> 0:38:54.080
<v Speaker 7>they're they've they've they're done by any means trying to

0:38:54.080 --> 0:38:55.680
<v Speaker 7>add weapons to this football team.

0:38:56.000 --> 0:38:58.040
<v Speaker 8>Just that though, like that makes me happy that they're

0:38:58.040 --> 0:39:00.520
<v Speaker 8>at least aware that wide receiver tool in need. Like

0:39:00.560 --> 0:39:03.560
<v Speaker 8>if we're not hearing anybody talk about, like there's no

0:39:03.640 --> 0:39:06.040
<v Speaker 8>reports about them looking at wide receiver too, would I

0:39:06.080 --> 0:39:08.080
<v Speaker 8>would be befuddled and the Cowboys will do it. They'll

0:39:08.120 --> 0:39:10.000
<v Speaker 8>look us right behind and be like, hey, me going

0:39:10.000 --> 0:39:12.880
<v Speaker 8>tober does it step up? And that'll be what simmy,

0:39:12.880 --> 0:39:14.600
<v Speaker 8>Simmy got a step up, y'all, like like they've been

0:39:14.600 --> 0:39:18.200
<v Speaker 8>telling you, it happens. So the fact that there are

0:39:18.280 --> 0:39:21.399
<v Speaker 8>reports saying, hey, the Cowboys are looking into it, chill out,

0:39:21.440 --> 0:39:22.719
<v Speaker 8>that makes me chill out a little bit.

0:39:24.880 --> 0:39:27.839
<v Speaker 5>I mean, I guess you guys described them pretty well.

0:39:27.960 --> 0:39:28.680
<v Speaker 3>I talk about them.

0:39:31.080 --> 0:39:36.120
<v Speaker 5>You're good. But just like you guys said, he's a

0:39:36.200 --> 0:39:40.000
<v Speaker 5>very versatile guy. And I love the fact that he

0:39:40.040 --> 0:39:41.920
<v Speaker 5>can catch the ball. But I'm not gonna lie. It

0:39:41.920 --> 0:39:43.640
<v Speaker 5>does give me a pit in my stomach when I

0:39:43.640 --> 0:39:46.520
<v Speaker 5>do see some of those highlights where he does lose

0:39:46.640 --> 0:39:50.839
<v Speaker 5>the ball, Because we've seen that happen here, and I

0:39:50.880 --> 0:39:54.000
<v Speaker 5>don't think that's something that you can easily correct. It's

0:39:54.040 --> 0:39:56.640
<v Speaker 5>gonna take some time for him to improve in that area.

0:39:56.760 --> 0:40:00.319
<v Speaker 5>So that's definitely something to be extremely aware of, and

0:40:00.360 --> 0:40:03.759
<v Speaker 5>hopefully this coaching staff is able to give him the

0:40:03.840 --> 0:40:06.840
<v Speaker 5>right training to improve in that, but it will be

0:40:06.920 --> 0:40:08.200
<v Speaker 5>something that will take a little bit.

0:40:08.960 --> 0:40:11.320
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I think they fixed it on on the program,

0:40:11.360 --> 0:40:12.880
<v Speaker 6>so I think they just might need to do some

0:40:12.920 --> 0:40:15.520
<v Speaker 6>of that, and maybe that when all of y'all's head,

0:40:15.520 --> 0:40:17.480
<v Speaker 6>do y'all not watch did y'all not watch the program.

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<v Speaker 3>I was born?

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<v Speaker 2>I think I.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't think it was necessarily a fumble alert.

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<v Speaker 8>I just think that he forgets that he needs to

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<v Speaker 8>keep it hind tight sometimes and when he's trying to

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<v Speaker 8>extra well, Murray was a fumbler, like he like will

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<v Speaker 8>be Green Bay or whatever. He'll just he'll know that

0:40:39.120 --> 0:40:41.400
<v Speaker 8>he's higding. You'll see Demark or Murray have the ball

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<v Speaker 8>high and tight. And if you're saying he had the technique,

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<v Speaker 8>he just he just fumbled and it could but the.

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<v Speaker 5>Result is the same. The ball is on the ground

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<v Speaker 5>either way.

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<v Speaker 8>But I guess that's but what I'm saying, Like jay

0:40:52.000 --> 0:40:54.399
<v Speaker 8>Nun has the ball down here, and when he does

0:40:54.440 --> 0:40:57.040
<v Speaker 8>his you know, flipping and running things, you know, it

0:40:57.120 --> 0:40:58.960
<v Speaker 8>kind of loosens up a little bit. I think you

0:40:59.000 --> 0:41:02.280
<v Speaker 8>can beat ball like high and tight into him, like being.

0:41:02.160 --> 0:41:03.760
<v Speaker 2>High technique basically.

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<v Speaker 3>And it could have been his big old muscles.

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<v Speaker 8>I don't know what was making him fumbling football, but

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<v Speaker 8>Murray could not stop putting the ball on the ground.

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<v Speaker 3>It was not dead as as fault.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I will tell you this, and I'm just being

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<v Speaker 6>fair as a cow, as a Texas Texas fan who

0:41:17.640 --> 0:41:20.200
<v Speaker 6>watched all those games, there was a point in the

0:41:20.239 --> 0:41:22.200
<v Speaker 6>season where you were kind of like every time he

0:41:22.239 --> 0:41:24.680
<v Speaker 6>got the ball, you were like, because you were like,

0:41:25.040 --> 0:41:28.239
<v Speaker 6>good things could happen, bad things could happen, right, It

0:41:28.360 --> 0:41:30.000
<v Speaker 6>just so, it was. It was a problem.

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<v Speaker 7>It certainly was if they had a rotation of some

0:41:32.360 --> 0:41:37.160
<v Speaker 7>outstanding backs. Wonder like late in the season, did the

0:41:37.480 --> 0:41:40.879
<v Speaker 7>coaching staff there determined that, Listen, we as much as

0:41:40.920 --> 0:41:43.520
<v Speaker 7>we love throwing him the ball and handing him the ball,

0:41:44.280 --> 0:41:46.759
<v Speaker 7>is there that that thread of him maybe putting the

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<v Speaker 7>ball on the ground. Derek, correct me if I'm wrong.

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<v Speaker 7>I don't remember the Washington game in the playoffs? Was

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<v Speaker 7>that a? It was a fumble one?

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<v Speaker 6>I know, yeah there was a big, big game where

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<v Speaker 6>he had a big fun but I can't remember Washington.

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<v Speaker 7>YEA, so to me that I think it was. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>that's that to me is the only thing wrong with

0:42:03.760 --> 0:42:07.000
<v Speaker 7>this player. I agree that you watch him with when

0:42:07.040 --> 0:42:10.120
<v Speaker 7>he can make you, he could punish you, and I

0:42:10.120 --> 0:42:12.080
<v Speaker 7>mean punish you in the way of making you miss

0:42:12.120 --> 0:42:15.440
<v Speaker 7>and making huge plays. This guy's a finisher. I mean,

0:42:15.560 --> 0:42:17.960
<v Speaker 7>you hand him the ball, he could score from anywhere

0:42:18.000 --> 0:42:19.960
<v Speaker 7>on the field. He's got that kind of speed.

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<v Speaker 6>Yep, yep, all right, we only have a couple more

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<v Speaker 6>minutes here, so real quick. I wanted to get you

0:42:24.640 --> 0:42:28.600
<v Speaker 6>guys thought on fifth round pick linebacker Shamar James out

0:42:28.600 --> 0:42:31.120
<v Speaker 6>of Florida or your thoughts on him and what can

0:42:31.120 --> 0:42:34.640
<v Speaker 6>he contribute to What I think is again another position

0:42:34.760 --> 0:42:36.880
<v Speaker 6>that has, because of what they did in free agency,

0:42:36.920 --> 0:42:38.640
<v Speaker 6>become pretty deep. I don't know if they have a

0:42:38.680 --> 0:42:40.880
<v Speaker 6>lot of great players, but I think they got a

0:42:40.960 --> 0:42:41.960
<v Speaker 6>lot of good players.

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<v Speaker 2>What does he fit?

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<v Speaker 8>I wasn't the biggest fan of him. You know, when

0:42:45.120 --> 0:42:49.280
<v Speaker 8>I'm watching linebackers, I like to see you know, running, hitting,

0:42:49.640 --> 0:42:51.920
<v Speaker 8>and like processing. I don't want to see you lost

0:42:51.960 --> 0:42:54.279
<v Speaker 8>out there, and James got lost a little bit.

0:42:54.320 --> 0:42:54.480
<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 8>I don't think he'll fit you as a Mike linebacker

0:42:57.480 --> 0:42:59.680
<v Speaker 8>type guy. But I gotta go back and watch and

0:42:59.680 --> 0:43:02.040
<v Speaker 8>see how the Cowboys look at him, because they look

0:43:02.080 --> 0:43:05.080
<v Speaker 8>at him as a will pass rushing guy. So what

0:43:05.120 --> 0:43:06.600
<v Speaker 8>I need to do is go to the film and

0:43:06.640 --> 0:43:09.200
<v Speaker 8>just ignore all the you know, this linebacker thing, this

0:43:09.320 --> 0:43:11.719
<v Speaker 8>linebacker thing, and just think about him as a pass

0:43:11.840 --> 0:43:15.000
<v Speaker 8>rushing will linebacker guy, and maybe that's why they like

0:43:15.080 --> 0:43:16.959
<v Speaker 8>him so much, But just me watching him, he gets

0:43:16.960 --> 0:43:21.240
<v Speaker 8>lost a bunch. If it's any any kind of misdirection motion,

0:43:21.480 --> 0:43:24.080
<v Speaker 8>he's lost. He's gone and he and he's guessing. And

0:43:24.120 --> 0:43:25.759
<v Speaker 8>I don't want to see guys guessing because if you

0:43:25.880 --> 0:43:27.000
<v Speaker 8>guessing gamble, then.

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<v Speaker 3>You're all the way wrong.

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<v Speaker 8>But he's a He's sometimes the most athletic looking player

0:43:31.280 --> 0:43:34.360
<v Speaker 8>on that defense, and he didn't test that way, but

0:43:34.600 --> 0:43:37.400
<v Speaker 8>just watching him run around, you can see the burst

0:43:37.440 --> 0:43:40.560
<v Speaker 8>and athleticism on him. So I'm gonna go back and

0:43:40.600 --> 0:43:43.200
<v Speaker 8>watch him with cowboy eyes. But just me watching him

0:43:43.239 --> 0:43:46.080
<v Speaker 8>initially and trading up for him, I didn't see a person.

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<v Speaker 6>Can I ask real quick before before we move on, please,

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<v Speaker 6>when you say that, do you think that part of

0:43:50.080 --> 0:43:51.760
<v Speaker 6>it goes back to what you're talking about with fumbling.

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<v Speaker 6>If you're saying that, he looks lost a lot, especially

0:43:54.440 --> 0:43:56.080
<v Speaker 6>when you're in motion that kind of thing. He's got

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<v Speaker 6>something that being in the NFL and being around professionals

0:43:59.560 --> 0:44:01.719
<v Speaker 6>and the right kind of coaching can get him right

0:44:01.800 --> 0:44:03.319
<v Speaker 6>in that way, because it is something you just have

0:44:03.400 --> 0:44:03.719
<v Speaker 6>to learn.

0:44:03.800 --> 0:44:06.000
<v Speaker 3>Though he has a lot of jobs that he will.

0:44:06.320 --> 0:44:07.160
<v Speaker 3>He will get there you go.

0:44:07.280 --> 0:44:10.160
<v Speaker 8>But if he's at will and you go, your only

0:44:10.760 --> 0:44:14.000
<v Speaker 8>is first back out. Yeah, whatever, the first back out is,

0:44:14.040 --> 0:44:16.719
<v Speaker 8>that's your job. If you narrow his job down, he's

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<v Speaker 8>athletic enough to be decent.

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<v Speaker 7>Way there we go.

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<v Speaker 2>Will linebacker.

0:44:19.440 --> 0:44:21.680
<v Speaker 7>Let him be straight lined rush guy, because that's something

0:44:21.760 --> 0:44:24.480
<v Speaker 7>he could absolutely do. His instincts, as Vosh says, are

0:44:24.520 --> 0:44:28.680
<v Speaker 7>not always great. I don't these coaches talk about putting players,

0:44:28.360 --> 0:44:30.160
<v Speaker 7>were about pen and poll. We don't got pen and

0:44:30.200 --> 0:44:32.719
<v Speaker 7>poll lineman. We're not gonna pin and pull. So make

0:44:32.760 --> 0:44:35.200
<v Speaker 7>this kid a will linebacker. Let him run to the ball,

0:44:35.320 --> 0:44:37.960
<v Speaker 7>let him use this explosiveness, let him use his straight

0:44:38.000 --> 0:44:40.760
<v Speaker 7>line speed. Don't put him a lot of coverage situations,

0:44:41.040 --> 0:44:43.279
<v Speaker 7>but figure out ways to kind of use play to

0:44:43.360 --> 0:44:45.799
<v Speaker 7>his strengths. Initially, I think that's what you have to do.

0:44:45.800 --> 0:44:47.759
<v Speaker 7>But the instincts were a little bit of a problem

0:44:47.800 --> 0:44:49.000
<v Speaker 7>with him. When you watch this tape.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I think the one position that you absolutely need

0:44:53.080 --> 0:44:58.120
<v Speaker 5>to have really great instinct is linebacker for sure. And

0:44:58.440 --> 0:45:01.040
<v Speaker 5>he's a guy that at least I think the Cowboys

0:45:01.080 --> 0:45:04.640
<v Speaker 5>did address a need like linebacker. We know that the

0:45:04.680 --> 0:45:07.600
<v Speaker 5>Cowboys are dealing with the injuries there and the Marvio

0:45:07.600 --> 0:45:09.399
<v Speaker 5>and Ovashaw not being there. So I think he does

0:45:09.520 --> 0:45:11.560
<v Speaker 5>add the depth. He's not going to be a guy

0:45:11.600 --> 0:45:14.000
<v Speaker 5>that I would expect to make any immediate impact, but

0:45:14.560 --> 0:45:16.759
<v Speaker 5>you look at special teams and that's an area that

0:45:16.800 --> 0:45:21.120
<v Speaker 5>he can definitely contribute at. But I do think this

0:45:21.239 --> 0:45:24.799
<v Speaker 5>is more of a big of addressing a need rather

0:45:24.880 --> 0:45:27.480
<v Speaker 5>than the guy that they mostly want.

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<v Speaker 7>We've seen my guy, Damone Clark, and we all kind

0:45:31.600 --> 0:45:33.680
<v Speaker 7>of think Damone Clark, Katy is a good looking player,

0:45:33.680 --> 0:45:37.239
<v Speaker 7>why does he make more plays? He lacks instincts when

0:45:37.239 --> 0:45:39.440
<v Speaker 7>you don't find the ball. And we've had some of

0:45:39.440 --> 0:45:42.160
<v Speaker 7>the best to ever find the ball here. Sean Lee's

0:45:42.640 --> 0:45:45.640
<v Speaker 7>that win. We've had some guys here they can find

0:45:45.719 --> 0:45:49.239
<v Speaker 7>extra Cokeley, find the ball, get there, make plays, you know,

0:45:49.320 --> 0:45:52.399
<v Speaker 7>but we've also seen Damone Clark, and Damone Clark, as

0:45:52.400 --> 0:45:55.480
<v Speaker 7>good looking as he is, when you don't find the

0:45:55.520 --> 0:45:57.759
<v Speaker 7>ball well and you get lost that way, then that's

0:45:57.760 --> 0:45:58.600
<v Speaker 7>a little bit of a problem.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, you guys join us.

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<v Speaker 5>You see what I mean. At the started the.

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<v Speaker 3>Show, Tommy is strong.

0:46:05.880 --> 0:46:06.640
<v Speaker 15>J J.

0:46:06.880 --> 0:46:08.359
<v Speaker 3>Toya is changing.

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<v Speaker 2>The way we don't get on the way for free.

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<v Speaker 2>We got next week. We got guys, ask him if

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<v Speaker 2>he's inviting you back next week.

0:46:17.440 --> 0:46:21.399
<v Speaker 6>Maybe maybe, maybe, But we got I think we got

0:46:21.400 --> 0:46:23.320
<v Speaker 6>like six or seven shows left before we get the

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<v Speaker 6>training camp.

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<v Speaker 2>So so we're gonna hold some of this content. We'll

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<v Speaker 2>be back next week. Make sure we got someone talking

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<v Speaker 2>about Texas player for thirty minutes. Yeah, I mean, god what.

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<v Speaker 6>We will open the next show talking about Jayden Blue

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<v Speaker 6>hook them you guys join us for a bout to

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<v Speaker 6>some body.

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<v Speaker 2>Brian. Brian brought us ambergar seat. I'm Derek you.

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