1 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 1: Goo Day Swirl. It's time for another No Dunks emergency 2 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 1: podcast presented by Fan Duel. We got the whole crew 3 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:17,479 Speaker 1: back in the yard for our third show of the day. 4 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 1: This is good practice for Thursday's NBA Trade Deadline Day spectacular, 5 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:26,279 Speaker 1: and the Southern lawyer is getting his reps in. How 6 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 1: about it. We got ourselves a trade. Yes, we do 7 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:38,200 Speaker 1: another one. The Boston Celtics are acquiring center Nikolovucevic from 8 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 1: the Chicago Bulls in exchange for guard Anthrony Simons. The 9 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:46,559 Speaker 1: two teams will also trade future second round picks to 10 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 1: each other as part of the deal. Sham's all over 11 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 1: this one once again. Trey Kirby, your Bulls are not 12 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 1: done making moves. Your thoughts on getting Anthony Simons and 13 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 1: vouch saying goodbye after what five fight plus seasons. 14 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:09,040 Speaker 2: It's been a long time, been a long time, Jay Skeetz, Yeah, 15 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 2: the Lavigne DeRozan Vujovic era finally coming to an end 16 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 2: in Chicago. Didn't have to trade a single first round 17 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 2: pick to get off of any of those guys, So 18 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 2: this is a big time win for the Chicago Bulls. 19 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:29,040 Speaker 2: I'm surprised, honestly that somebody traded for Vuchvic. I said, 20 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:30,679 Speaker 2: maybe an hour and a half ago, I thought he 21 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 2: would be a buyout guy. I know there are some 22 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:36,759 Speaker 2: Chicago media peeps speculating that this might have been a 23 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 2: favor by AK trading Vucevic to a contending team in 24 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 2: the Celtics. But you know, they switched out their own 25 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 2: second round or they switched out second round picks, Celtics 26 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 2: sending a second round pick back. We'll see what becomes 27 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 2: of Anfredy Simons. I don't think it's a guarantee he 28 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 2: plays for the Bulls this season. He could be rerouted, 29 00:01:56,680 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 2: I do believe, but a cap move, no doubt for 30 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 2: the Celtics as they're trying to get out of the 31 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 2: luxury tax. They still got some work to do. But yeah, 32 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 2: I mean, we're doing an emergency podcast for a nikol 33 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:11,920 Speaker 2: Ivuchovitch trade in twenty twenty six. I can't believe it. 34 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:16,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, I'd say that's downright sad and depressing. 35 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 2: But here we are, and it's a two time All 36 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 2: star we're talking about here. 37 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you think? 38 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 2: What do you think? Tasks? 39 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 1: I guess my question is like, do you think this 40 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 1: was more of just an on court move for the 41 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 1: Celtics to get a big in Vujvic, or like Trey said, 42 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 1: is it more of them cleaning up the books a 43 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:38,799 Speaker 1: little bit, you know, getting it a little bit more 44 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 1: in order, though they got work to do still there 45 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 1: or is it both and it's like for a win 46 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 1: win for them. 47 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 3: I think there's definitely an aspect of having a basketball 48 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 3: player who's a big man out there that they want 49 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 3: to have a poor man's Al Horford out there, a 50 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 3: guy who will definitely extend the floor, and like Al 51 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 3: can't defend the rim, but unlike Al can't defend, you know, 52 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 3: all that much. That's the problem with Vouch. But I 53 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 3: think a big of it is yet, we're gonna shoot 54 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 3: a ton of threes and this man is a plug 55 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 3: and play for that. So it's not that sad that 56 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 3: we're doing a live podcast for Nikola Vucevic because this 57 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 3: is the Eastern Conference and they have hopes of achieving 58 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 3: a lot. I think this makes you start to think, 59 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 3: is Jason Tatum coming back this season? I know it's 60 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:34,640 Speaker 3: not one or the other. It's not predicated on Tatum 61 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 3: coming back, but it starts to make you think that 62 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 3: if Tatum comes back, and now they at least have 63 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 3: a guy who's different than in Amish Keita or Xavier Tillman. 64 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 3: The fact that they at least have options at the five, 65 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 3: and because Joe Mozilla will have this team shooting threes 66 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 3: and this guy is the absolute perfect player for that. 67 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 3: And I know it feels odd that it's it was 68 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 3: nearly five years ago. I remember where I was, Would 69 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 3: we do that? Did that emergency podcast where Nikolavuchevich was 70 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 3: traded from Orlando to Chicago. It was a March trade 71 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 3: because it was an odd COVID year where things were 72 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 3: pushed back a little bit later. I was in my 73 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 3: mother in law's house because we were moving and we 74 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 3: were staying there for a little bit, and I was 75 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 3: excited for the Chicago Bulls to have to give up 76 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:28,160 Speaker 3: just two first round draft picks for Nikola Vucevich, thinking 77 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 3: they're going to piece things together. Now there's a lot 78 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:33,280 Speaker 3: There was a lot of pieces to put together. It 79 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 3: obviously did not work out all that well, especially those 80 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 3: first round picks. You know Franz Wagner and what that 81 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 3: turned into. But this is different in Boston and that 82 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 3: they are an established product and Vuch can just be 83 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 3: there and just shoot that thing again. The defense is 84 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:51,919 Speaker 3: an issue. But from the Boston side, it can see 85 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:55,479 Speaker 3: why that happens. That the Chicago side trade so interesting 86 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:58,159 Speaker 3: as to you know who they keep around after next 87 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 3: after this season? With all those guards they have, they 88 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:03,480 Speaker 3: have so many. 89 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, let me let me read the list of guarden 90 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:10,280 Speaker 1: death on the Chicago Bulls as of Tuesday afternoon here, 91 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:12,279 Speaker 1: because I assume there are some more deals coming. But 92 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:15,479 Speaker 1: they have Josh Giddy, they have Kobe White, they have 93 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:19,679 Speaker 1: Io Jasumo, they have Trade Jones, they have Yuki Kawa 94 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 1: Mura who's on a two way, nice one. And then 95 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 1: they've traded for three more guards here today in Jaden Ivy, 96 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:29,679 Speaker 1: Mike Conley Jr. And now Anthony Simons. That is eight 97 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 1: guards right now. Do they even have a center on 98 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 1: the team. I guess Jalen Smith is their center. He's 99 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 1: not even that big. They got Zach Collins, so trade 100 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 1: you think there's well, I know you do. But more 101 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 1: moves still to come here in Chicago. 102 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I do. And look, the Balls are making smart 103 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 2: moves here all around. Uh, starting with the Ivy trade. 104 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 2: This is a smart move to get off of Vucevic. 105 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 2: Take a dice roll on Simons. I don't really think 106 00:05:57,080 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 2: they should sign Simons, Like, why would you trade for 107 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:03,279 Speaker 2: iv and Simons at the same time. But the best 108 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:06,159 Speaker 2: part about this is that the Bulls are ensuring that 109 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 2: they are not pushing hard for the play in tournament. 110 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 2: You're not gonna win a lot of games if you 111 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 2: keep trading all of your veterans right now outside of Simons. 112 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 2: Patrick Williams is gonna end up being the highest paid 113 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 2: player on the Bulls, and if he is like the 114 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 2: leading scorer, then your team is going to be bad. 115 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 2: And that's the best news for the Chicago Bulls. They 116 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 2: might luck into a decent draft pick and a franchise 117 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:30,479 Speaker 2: superstar going forward. I'm a little nervous though, that they're 118 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 2: clearing all this cap space and doing these moves for 119 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 2: guys in Ivy and Simons who need to be resigned immediately. 120 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:42,040 Speaker 2: They will have leverage over Ivy as he's a restricted 121 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 2: free agent, so they can kind of call their shots there. 122 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 2: We've seen restricted free agency be a tool that teams 123 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:50,160 Speaker 2: have used very wisely in the past couple of seasons. 124 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:52,480 Speaker 2: Simons is an unrestricted free agent. He's a couple of 125 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 2: years older than Ivy as well. To me, he seems 126 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 2: like he's probably just going to finish out the year 127 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 2: in Chicago and search out for a bigger deal somewhere else. Though, 128 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:04,600 Speaker 2: like I said, he might be rerouted in the next 129 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 2: couple of days as well, if there's a team that says, yeah, 130 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 2: we can take a chance on a bench scorer. Because 131 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 2: Simon's was pretty solid in Boston, I thought, especially yeah 132 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 2: once the calendar fleet started. Yeah, once we got to 133 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 2: twenty twenty six, he started having his little outbursts. He 134 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 2: gave definitely a better effort on the defensive end than 135 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 2: he had when he was playing in Portland. So I 136 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 2: think he kind of remade himself a little bit as 137 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 2: a player to the point where a contending team could 138 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 2: at least take a chance on him and see what 139 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 2: he does in some high leverage situations because he acquitted 140 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 2: himself quite well. I thought, for a month here in Boston, 141 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 2: what are the Celtics getting in Vucevic. I don't know, 142 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 2: is he going to be a starter for them? Maybe? 143 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 2: I think they like the switchability of Cada, the athleticism 144 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:54,679 Speaker 2: that he brings. Though Tass is right, Vouch does shoot threes. 145 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 2: He's like a forty three point shooter. We've seen a 146 00:07:57,040 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 2: hit some big ones during this year, so maybe he 147 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 2: takes some big shots. At the very least, he's like 148 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 2: a massive upgrade over Luca Garza. Luka Garza is a 149 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 2: poor man's Nikolovucevic. If we're being quite honest, Boch does rebound, 150 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 2: he cannot move his feet. Celtics fans Joe Mizzula are 151 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 2: going to be furious at this guy many times during 152 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 2: the year when somebody gets a back door lay up 153 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 2: and all you see from Buch's I'm supposed to be 154 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 2: covering for all these guys. He's got a better defensive 155 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 2: backbone in Boston than he ever had in Chicago. He 156 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 2: was a part of good defenses when he played in Orlando, 157 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 2: had a bunch of guys covering for him. But I 158 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:40,680 Speaker 2: don't really know what the Balls are doing. They're facilitating trades. 159 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 2: For the most part, they're helping other teams get done 160 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 2: what they want to get done. Like we talked about, 161 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 2: the Timberwolves basically made a cap move and the Bulls 162 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 2: were there to be able to hop in and get 163 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:54,079 Speaker 2: a decent piece. I think what the Celtics are doing 164 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:57,560 Speaker 2: here is ninety five percent cap related in that they're 165 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:00,680 Speaker 2: trying to get underneath these aprons and the luck tax. 166 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 2: But they're able to help out the Celtics as well 167 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 2: by giving him a player that can at least be 168 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 2: useful for him. So I think the right thing all around, 169 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 2: and I think, like tass is saying, this does give 170 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:13,680 Speaker 2: us a little bit of a preview of how the 171 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 2: Celtics are feeling about Jason Tatum. There will be shots 172 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:19,839 Speaker 2: to be had on the perimeter and that's going to 173 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 2: go to Tatum rather than a guy like Simons. 174 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, with with both guys on expiring contracts here in 175 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 1: this deal, Anthorty Simons makes twenty seven point seven million, 176 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 1: Vuchvic makes twenty one point five millions. So that does 177 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 1: help Boston's books. It doesn't get them all the way 178 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 1: task out of the luxury tax, but they're now below 179 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:41,719 Speaker 1: the first apron, which could open the door here for 180 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 1: some other win now moves if they're not happy with 181 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 1: this team. But yeah, maybe it is this case of 182 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:51,320 Speaker 1: like we got Tatum coming back, thank you Simons for 183 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 1: your service. We knew Anperty Simons wasn't gonna be in 184 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 1: Boston for the long run anyway, like basically ever since 185 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:57,560 Speaker 1: he got traded there, it's like, well, he'll likely be 186 00:09:57,640 --> 00:10:00,680 Speaker 1: moved before the deadline, and he did so to rehabilitate 187 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 1: his image. Slow start, got it going, found his groove. 188 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 1: The guy that's played now eight seasons in the league 189 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:10,320 Speaker 1: and was a starter for the most part as he 190 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 1: turned into one in Portland and then just came off 191 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 1: the bench. And like Joe Mizzula, he praised him a 192 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:18,200 Speaker 1: lot for taking on that role and obviously helping with 193 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 1: the second unit. So we'll see if he sticks in 194 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 1: Chicago or not, and trying to get another contract. But voots, Baby, 195 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 1: I'm a little concerned defensively against these bigs in the 196 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:32,680 Speaker 1: East with Jalen Duran or cat and Mitchell Robinson or 197 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 1: Joel Embiid. You know, he's just so poor defensive. But 198 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:41,319 Speaker 1: maybe he's helped out in a better system, like Trey said. 199 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 3: Know you would think so that there there would just 200 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 3: be you know, like Trey said, and he throws us 201 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 3: arms up a lot and says, wow, wow, yeah, you 202 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:56,320 Speaker 3: know who's to blame here. Now after the game, you 203 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:59,440 Speaker 3: can also hear him call out his team and so 204 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 3: in a scenario where he can't call out your team. 205 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 3: In Boston, you will have Missola'll be calling you out 206 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:08,719 Speaker 3: all the time. Maybe you step up, maybe develop a 207 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 3: little bit more of a spine on that defensive end. 208 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 3: So there's that hope, and I think that's what Boston 209 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 3: is looking for. The moves to slowly trickle down the 210 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:23,440 Speaker 3: amount of bucks they got to pay out, trading Drew 211 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 3: Holliday for Anthony Simons and Anthony Simon's turning in to 212 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 3: vouch it seems extremely smart. It's so fun looking at 213 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:35,080 Speaker 3: a deal that's an expiring for an expiring and to 214 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 3: think who is getting kept around by this new team. 215 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 3: I said, Vooch is kind of a poor man's Al Horford, 216 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:47,200 Speaker 3: and in their eyes, I think it's a hopefully he's 217 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 3: a an Al Horford of you know, the end of 218 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 3: his career as well. Who's willing to take a pretty 219 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 3: cheap contract to stick around with a really good team 220 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:59,840 Speaker 3: because Boston is that. As for Simons, I have no idea. 221 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 3: So interesting with those eight guards that Chicago has, you know, 222 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:07,679 Speaker 3: two of them are signed. Giddy is their lead moneymaker 223 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 3: for sher a twenty five mil next year. They've got 224 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 3: Trey Jones, so there's those two guys, but then beyond 225 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 3: that andthredy Ian Simons, as we said, an expiring deal. Yeah, 226 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 3: he signed a four year, one hundred million dollar deal 227 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 3: back in twenty twenty two to get him to this point. 228 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 3: It feels like he could be got for even less 229 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 3: of that amount, even though you know he's he's entering 230 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 3: his prime. He's obviously a bucket off the bench. But 231 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 3: it seems like you could get a decent deal. But 232 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 3: I don't know if the Bulls want to keep him 233 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 3: around with the exactly you know, what Trey mentioned was 234 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 3: going to get Jade and Ivy, and then you know 235 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:50,719 Speaker 3: the option of keeping Io around, who is different than 236 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 3: all the rest of these guards, and it seems like 237 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 3: Kobe White was definitely destined to go somewhere else at 238 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 3: this point. So they just have a billion options, So 239 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 3: this can't be it. I don't know if we're doing 240 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 3: an emergency a couple of hours from now for Kobe White, 241 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 3: but it sure feels that way. It's going to be 242 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 3: happening before three pm Eastern on Thursday. That one, to 243 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:17,440 Speaker 3: me stands out as a guy that you know, there's 244 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 3: just too much duplication with these guards here. 245 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 1: Who's the big that the Bulls are going to be 246 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:22,680 Speaker 1: training for here? 247 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 2: Like, is it? 248 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:25,720 Speaker 1: Is it Anthony Davis to go back to that? Is 249 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 1: that a possibility? Is there another big that they're going 250 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:29,680 Speaker 1: to try and to add to the roster here with 251 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 1: some of these guards. Yeah, do you have any read 252 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 1: on that, t K or any preference on who'd you 253 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 1: like to see them continue to make a move for 254 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 1: here or. 255 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:41,680 Speaker 2: Just no one? No one. I would rather them stay bad, 256 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:46,080 Speaker 2: Like don't don't blow your load on Anthony Davis. Doesn't 257 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:53,440 Speaker 2: make any sense. Definitely, definitely not some bonus. I mean literally, 258 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:56,439 Speaker 2: there was yakam perl rumors for the Bulls today. The 259 00:13:56,559 --> 00:13:58,200 Speaker 2: Raptors would have to pay up for that. I would 260 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:00,200 Speaker 2: accept a couple of first round picks to take on 261 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:04,560 Speaker 2: Pearl's contract. 262 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:06,559 Speaker 1: But nothing drastic like an ad or Simonis. 263 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:10,840 Speaker 2: No, No, absolutely not. Now this is the Bulls almost 264 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 2: have a clean slate right now, and they've got all 265 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:16,679 Speaker 2: their own picks. They might get a Portland pick. It's 266 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 2: lottery protected. I think I think it would stick with 267 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 2: the Blazers as of right now. But there's a chance 268 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 2: that the Bulls get that one. They've got, Like I 269 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 2: said they got all their own picks. Now's a decent 270 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 2: time to be a poor team. I don't think the 271 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 2: next two drafts after twenty six are all that hyped up, 272 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 2: twenty seven and twenty eight. But the smartest way to 273 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 2: get a superstar player in today's day and age is 274 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 2: to get them through the draft. It doesn't really happen 275 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 2: during free agency. The Bulls are running out of things 276 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 2: to trade that would have a high enough contract value 277 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 2: and be be alluring to another team and have anything 278 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 2: left over. So at this point they should stay the 279 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 2: course and sign Bill Wennington to a ten day contract 280 00:14:58,600 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 2: and bring him off the bench. 281 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 1: Why not. Here's a look, by the way, because of 282 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 1: the photoshop wizards out there of Vucci Baby Vucci Maine 283 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 1: in his Celtics jersey. I don't know if he's gonna 284 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 1: wear number eight. Josh might not has that right now. 285 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 1: How much will that cost Vooch to get the jersey off, Josh? 286 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 1: What do you think? What's the going rate? Twenty twenty 287 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 1: five K? 288 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 2: For sure? Yeah? Yeah, I mean Luke Clenard was wearing 289 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 2: three for the Hawks and CJ. McCollum wore it in 290 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 2: his very first game. So these jerseys can be had 291 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 2: for a decent price. 292 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, Vuocha's only ever worn number eight or 293 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 1: number nine, and Derek White is number nine, so I 294 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 1: can't imagine he'd be given that up. So it's likely 295 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 1: it'd be eight, I guess if he gets it off 296 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 1: of Josh. 297 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 2: And my guess is Iguadala was wearing nine in Philadelphia 298 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 2: when Vooch was a rookie wearing number eight, so he 299 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 2: probably didn't have he didn't have the pocket book or 300 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 2: the pedigree to get that number off him. But he's 301 00:15:57,640 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 2: higher on the totem pole than Josh Minor. 302 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, yes he is. And think about this with Vucevic 303 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 1: now going to the Celtics here, like he could win 304 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 1: a first round for the first time in his career. 305 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 1: He's never been out of the first round. Like, he's 306 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 1: barely been to the playoffs for a very long career. 307 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 1: He's area a couple of times, Yeah, handful of times. 308 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 1: In fact, it's not unreasonable that Vukovich plays in more 309 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 1: playoff games this postseason than he has in his entire career. 310 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 1: If he can get up to like, you know, fifteen 311 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 1: sixteen games played, which I think is what he's looking 312 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 1: at in his career. So he gets to go to 313 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 1: a winning franchise here tass and should contribute the Al 314 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 1: Horford comparisons, Yes, I buy it on the offensive end 315 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 1: less so of course on the defense end, where al 316 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 1: Horford despite his age, is still like a much more 317 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 1: sound defender. But yeah, can he hit some threes and 318 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 1: hit a game winner or two? 319 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 2: Sure? 320 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 1: Guy can shoot. 321 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, just to have I mean in the comparisons, also 322 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 3: just the body, just to be out there and have 323 00:16:57,320 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 3: a big that's an option like that. And now al 324 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 3: Horford's got far more playoff experience then it's incredible. So 325 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 3: he's played in is it three first rounds that he's 326 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 3: played in? 327 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:12,479 Speaker 1: I think he technically played in a game with the 328 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 1: Sixers way back, but yes, let's call him three first 329 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 1: rounds for all intensive purposes. 330 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:19,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah, those are some great series. 331 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 2: Three five round series when was one of the stars. 332 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 1: He's played sixteen total games in the playoffs. Yeah. 333 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:33,440 Speaker 2: Interesting because okay, so he would have to get to 334 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:37,120 Speaker 2: three series, you know, two seven game series and then 335 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 2: to a third. And my guess is that if the 336 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 2: Celtics are playing seven game series, Vouch is getting pulled eventually, 337 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:47,920 Speaker 2: because that guy is going to be a target every 338 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 2: time on the defense. Event Yeah, you're talking about Kid 339 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:52,879 Speaker 2: Cunningham and Jalen Duran. They will run a screen and 340 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:55,960 Speaker 2: roll at him every single time down the court, and 341 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 2: it will be effective every single time down the court, 342 00:17:58,440 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 2: and eventually it'll just be like we're back to. 343 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 3: The good thing about the every other Celtic that's going 344 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 3: to be on the floor, they will make up for, well, 345 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:10,919 Speaker 3: you know, attempt to make up for every step that 346 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 3: Vouch is way too slow on, because that's what they do. 347 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 3: They're they're they're good at that. It's going to be hard, 348 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 3: It's going to be very hard. I mean, Voch is 349 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:21,920 Speaker 3: going to play a max of twenty four minutes a game. 350 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:24,399 Speaker 3: He's not going to play a ton because he's going 351 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:27,200 Speaker 3: to get burned too much. But he's just an option. 352 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:31,480 Speaker 3: And you know, it's just wishful thinking. This is this 353 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 3: is trade deadline, baby, it's wishful thinking time. It's yes, 354 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:40,160 Speaker 3: Squint and it's Al Horford and old Al Horford because 355 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:45,359 Speaker 3: Vooch is very old too uh old. Yes, yes, that's 356 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 3: a problem. But the direction that the Bulls are going 357 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:52,120 Speaker 3: absolutely the way to do it, and just to continue 358 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 3: to tear this thing down, uh, because you know, as 359 00:18:57,359 --> 00:19:00,399 Speaker 3: we've been saying, their money is not tied up beyond 360 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 3: this year. 361 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 2: All that much. 362 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:09,159 Speaker 3: Basically, it's Giddy, Patrick Williams, Isaac Accorro, Jalen Smith, Trey Jones, 363 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 3: and then cheaper guys like the Great Matas, Buzzlis and others. 364 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:16,200 Speaker 3: But that's all they really have tied up into next year. 365 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 3: And then maybe it's Jade and Ivy staying on for 366 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 3: a long term, but he's a restricted free agent coming up, 367 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:28,879 Speaker 3: so they don't have a lot tied up adult It's 368 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 3: under one hundred million right now and that's the way 369 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 3: to do it. 370 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 1: So Vooch headed to the Celtics, Anthony Simon's going to 371 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 1: the Bulls, you would expect. The Bulls are not done. 372 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 1: But we can wrap this up soon. If you missed 373 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 1: our previous emergency podcast a couple hours ago, not even 374 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 1: at this point. We did talk about Jared Jackson Junior 375 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:53,120 Speaker 1: being traded to the Utah Jazz in an eight player deal, 376 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:55,199 Speaker 1: not seven player deal like I had on the graphic 377 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 1: last time. My bad couldn't count. And then Jade and 378 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:02,200 Speaker 1: Ivy going to the Chicago Bulls along with Mike Conley Jr. 379 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:05,480 Speaker 1: In Kevin Hurder going to Detroit and the Wolves getting 380 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:07,239 Speaker 1: into the mix as well in that three team deal. 381 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:08,920 Speaker 1: So we already talked about those ones. I'm sure we'll 382 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 1: talk about the more on tomorrow's podcast as we have 383 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 1: a little bit more time to think about it. But yeah, 384 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:19,440 Speaker 1: here we go, another former All Star in Vucevic being traded. 385 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 2: You know, two time All Star. 386 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 1: Oh both guys. Jared Jackson Jr. I think was a 387 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 1: two time All Star too. 388 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:31,639 Speaker 2: Equivalent players. I've always said, Jared Jackson Junior and Nikolavuovich 389 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 2: same guy. Basically, I'll tell you what I am. 390 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 1: A small part of me is gonna miss Trey Kurbie 391 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 1: trying to convince me task the world about how great 392 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 1: Vujevich is night in, night out, trying to build up 393 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 1: that trade value. You know, I'm gonna miss it. 394 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 2: They got something back, They actually got something back and 395 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 2: didn't have to pay to get off Vovich. This is 396 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:55,920 Speaker 2: a great day. This is a great day for the 397 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 2: Chicago Bulls. 398 00:20:58,080 --> 00:20:59,680 Speaker 1: I would tell you to wave your flag out in 399 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 1: front of your house, but I know you ripped that one. 400 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:03,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a big ol' hole in it just like 401 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 2: the whole the big ol' hole in the middle for 402 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:08,399 Speaker 2: the Chicago Bulls. Right now, I got a book of 403 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:11,639 Speaker 2: Flights of Chicago. I might get a tryout. Yeah, exactly. 404 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're a big enough guy for sure, you can 405 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:15,640 Speaker 1: play the center position. Well, that's funny. As we wrap 406 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 1: up here, I said this to Trey right before we 407 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 1: went live, it's like, do the Bulls play tonight? Yeah, 408 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 1: they do. They play in Milwaukee tonight. You are going 409 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:27,400 Speaker 1: to see some insane rosters tonight in the league because 410 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:30,479 Speaker 1: the ut Jazz also play tonight, and they just traded 411 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:32,920 Speaker 1: like four guys and I can't imagine their new guys 412 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:35,480 Speaker 1: are gonna be there. So they're gonna have a funny roster. 413 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:36,920 Speaker 1: The Bulls are gonna have a funny roster. 414 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:39,199 Speaker 3: No Sang gan to get some minutes. 415 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 2: Now he's out for the season. 416 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I forgot about that. 417 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, the Bulls didn't take the deal from the Pelicans 418 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:47,840 Speaker 2: that the Hawks did take, and then they drafted No 419 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 2: Sanga and he played one second and then broke his shoulder. 420 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, but that was last year. 421 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:54,959 Speaker 3: Night. 422 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 2: That was last year. Now it's this year. Yuki Yuki 423 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:02,120 Speaker 2: might be the starting center. He won that Jill jump ball. Man, 424 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 2: you can handle it inside. 425 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:05,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a better rebounder than some of the bigs 426 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 1: in the league. I was gonna say, what the hell 427 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 1: was gonna say? Oh, Patrick Williams might actually shoot and 428 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 1: score tonight, might be forced to. 429 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 2: This is the this is the time, Patrick go crazy, 430 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 2: go for twenty. Buddy, put up ten. 431 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 1: He's going for thirty tonight. Man, I'm calling it down. 432 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 1: All right, let's call it there. If you're new, thanks 433 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:30,359 Speaker 1: for joining us, hit the leg button, subscribe podcast listeners 434 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:33,119 Speaker 1: by star ratings and reviews. We will be back tomorrow 435 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:35,879 Speaker 1: unless we're back tonight. Like I said last time. Uh, 436 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 1: that's a good question tasked. If Kobe White is traded 437 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:41,439 Speaker 1: here in the next couple hours, I don't know. It 438 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:45,400 Speaker 1: depends who's coming back, right, is it? 439 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 3: See to me? It depends on where he goes to. 440 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 1: Okay, interesting, Yeah, if he's like yeah, if he moves 441 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:56,680 Speaker 1: the needle for said team, yeah, okay. Otherwise, we'll probably 442 00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 1: see everyone tomorrow. But we do have a special coming 443 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:02,880 Speaker 1: up on Thursday Live all Day. I'm getting a little 444 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:05,880 Speaker 1: concerned all these trades happening here in the days leading 445 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:07,919 Speaker 1: up to the deadline, Like what, we're just gonna be 446 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 1: sitting there twiddling our thumbs maybe on Thursday. 447 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:14,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm feeling the same way, like this is the 448 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 2: kind of trade that happens at two thirty pm Eastern time, 449 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 2: right before the deadline. Let's get our books in order. 450 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 2: Which is why it makes me think maybe the bulls 451 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:26,399 Speaker 2: would trade Simons because now they got like, you know, 452 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 2: forty eight hours to figure out another sort of trade, 453 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:33,680 Speaker 2: because this is pretty minor all things, yeah considered. So yeah, 454 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 2: maybe he's still on the move as well. We'll see, 455 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:39,120 Speaker 2: We will see until tomorrow. 456 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 1: Clipper bros. 457 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:43,239 Speaker 2: You heard it here first. Have a great time turn up, 458 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 2: Love you guys, awesome. 459 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:50,680 Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us. And remember a little known Chicago bull, 460 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 3: Lochlan Olbrick, has a great name, Lochlan Olbrick, and will 461 00:23:55,800 --> 00:24:01,399 Speaker 3: definitely be playing tonight him and that's praise the dead people.