Speaker 1: Are you ready for this? Sean Merriman A one of
Speaker 1: hand effect. Boom boom boom, out go the lights. This
Speaker 1: is Lights Out with Sean Merriman. What's up? Guys? Were
Speaker 1: back again with another podcast on the Lights Out Podcast
Speaker 1: with me Seawan Merriman. And today we got a sack specialist,
Speaker 1: a sack artist, and it's one of the guys. Man
Speaker 1: I look at like damn and that this dude is good.
Speaker 1: Cameron Jordan's from the New Orleans Saints and they're they're
Speaker 1: playing well. Right now. We'll get into uh talking about
Speaker 1: Drew Brees, my former teammate in two thousand five with
Speaker 1: the charges, and I don't think that people understand how
Speaker 1: good this dude is. Its preparation and how much time
Speaker 1: he takes uh in order to get ready for games,
Speaker 1: some of the things he's done off the field as well. Uh,
Speaker 1: we get into Michael Thomas and him being a teammate.
Speaker 1: You know, it's been a lot of talk over the
Speaker 1: last few weeks um outside talk anyway about him possibly
Speaker 1: being a problem or him being not a great teammate.
Speaker 1: And you know, one of the first things that I
Speaker 1: say when I see a guy that good is let
Speaker 1: me tell you something. There's no way that he isn't
Speaker 1: a great teammate because he does everything he needs to
Speaker 1: do in order to go out and perform the way
Speaker 1: he's performing. We talked a little bit about that and also,
Speaker 1: is Drew Brees better than Tom Brady? Right? I mean,
Speaker 1: for me, it always comes across as I'm hating a
Speaker 1: little bit, but I'm not hating. But he came out camera.
Speaker 1: Jordan came out of last a couple of days ago
Speaker 1: and said that he believes that Drew Brees is better
Speaker 1: than Tom Brady. Um, I personally believe the same thing. Now,
Speaker 1: brains count rings a big deal. You're always gonna get
Speaker 1: judged by how many Super Bowl rings you've got. We'll
Speaker 1: give that to the gold status on that end. But
Speaker 1: as far as comparison, side by side, quarterback from quarterback,
Speaker 1: Drew Brees to me and my opinion is better than
Speaker 1: Tom Brady. So let's listen to cam camera Jordan, Guys,
Speaker 1: what's going on? My dude? How you doing? I'm good,
Speaker 1: I'm good. You know, shout out congrats. I'm sorry it
Speaker 1: took a little longer. I saw you your lights out.
Speaker 1: We got in with belatory and I'm like, are we're
Speaker 1: moving on up? You know? Yeah, that's right, that's right now.
Speaker 1: Now I got my the only with lights out of
Speaker 1: Extreme Fighting. Yeah, that was belatory a couple of years
Speaker 1: ago when I was working with them. You know, it's funny,
Speaker 1: I was actually gonna fight. I was. I was reaching.
Speaker 1: I was reaching out to you because I was seeing
Speaker 1: what your schedule is. Like, I was gonna invite you
Speaker 1: to a fight if I was to have one. Damn,
Speaker 1: I say, okay, I said, I said, look, I seen you.
Speaker 1: I see you spar with a young Eric uh, you know,
Speaker 1: Chris McCain get get uh cow kid, and now turning
Speaker 1: fighting on the on the your stuff. So I said,
Speaker 1: I see y'all playing around, dude. So so that's one
Speaker 1: of the things I was telling a lot of people too,
Speaker 1: because I said, Chris can go Chris. Chris actually can
Speaker 1: ball too on the field. And I always bring up
Speaker 1: this thing. I said, there's gonna be a lot of
Speaker 1: former football players, especially transition you know, transitioning into m
Speaker 1: M A. Because it's like natural force, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Like a lot of the movements and stuff
Speaker 1: that we do, it's just natural because we're so damn explosive, man.
Speaker 1: But we're you know, behind the curving and just learning
Speaker 1: like little techniques and stuff like that. Right, I say,
Speaker 1: I've seen I've seen herschel Walker went at forty some
Speaker 1: years old getting the ringing. Yeah, and then so speak
Speaker 1: speaking of hands and violent hands, how are you gonna
Speaker 1: do that to my charges? Man? Seriously? Like, yo, when
Speaker 1: look when I was watching the video and see me
Speaker 1: being like a former pass, hush you dude, I'm looking
Speaker 1: at you. We're still looking like we're watching films. Right.
Speaker 1: So I'm sitting in there and I'm seeing that chocolate
Speaker 1: blah blah, and I'm like, oh, man, after the game
Speaker 1: when I hit you, I was like, man, I was
Speaker 1: just brought out one of them jack Anders back in
Speaker 1: the game. But I was like, I was like, I'm disrespectful.
Speaker 1: So I was like, I'm just gonna keeping to himself. Dude.
Speaker 1: I would have ran through my TV. Man. I'd be
Speaker 1: getting so high when casts be doing it, because you know,
Speaker 1: I'm you know, I missed that, um but you know,
Speaker 1: just you know, going back to the past, Russian man. Like,
Speaker 1: how like for me when I first started, I wasn't
Speaker 1: all that great with my hands. You know, man, I
Speaker 1: just wasn't like I was really using my athleticism explosion
Speaker 1: because I can run and I'm you know, big and
Speaker 1: strong and all that stuff. But I wasn't really active
Speaker 1: like that with my hands earlier on. Man, when did
Speaker 1: when did you start to make that like a priority? Um?
Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like hands has always been something
Speaker 1: that I've been here for, you know. Uh, I feel
Speaker 1: like Pops and Driller to me when I was young,
Speaker 1: just like, hey, when you get up, when you get
Speaker 1: ahold of man, never go down the middle of a man.
Speaker 1: You know, always work half a man. So I'm thinking
Speaker 1: it's low key by birthright that I've always been able to,
Speaker 1: you know, use hand extension except etcetera. But you know,
Speaker 1: I try and tell people I didn't start off the
Speaker 1: past searc I started off. You know, they drafted me
Speaker 1: to play a four eye, they drafted me to play three.
Speaker 1: They don't really want me to put me on that edge.
Speaker 1: You know. I came in like defensive hands are like,
Speaker 1: you know, two thirty, two thirty five. You know, some
Speaker 1: some guys are like two sixty me. I came in
Speaker 1: a smooth to eighty eight like and I had I
Speaker 1: had a cut wait to eighty seven being on on uh,
Speaker 1: you know whatever the combine was like, I didn't. I
Speaker 1: didn't come in like I came in ready to stop
Speaker 1: that run. So you you didn't. You never tripped out?
Speaker 1: Really when they moved you from that, from that technique
Speaker 1: to that was like a seven or why you didn't?
Speaker 1: It was an easy transition. It's a lot less contact,
Speaker 1: maybe late when you ain't hitting them platforms every every dawn. Andy,
Speaker 1: all you gott is this is a tight end. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna put hands on the tight end right right. And
Speaker 1: I said, that's when I played my whole career outside
Speaker 1: linebacker for you know, with the charges and in pass
Speaker 1: rush for Nicol. I put my hand in the dirt.
Speaker 1: But I hated it. I hate playing to run from
Speaker 1: from a six technique or even a tight seven. I
Speaker 1: want to be so wide, you know what I'm said,
Speaker 1: I want to be so wide outside the tight end whatever,
Speaker 1: why not, I don't care. I want I wanted to
Speaker 1: be away from the contact period. Now I see it. Look,
Speaker 1: look everybody knowing building. I'm like, I come to practice.
Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, it's time for these hands to day.
Speaker 1: Somebody gonna get them. You know, I'm over here like
Speaker 1: to you, which one of your tight iss which one
Speaker 1: of your tackles. It's it's all love. I just lie
Speaker 1: down to a three check on some plays like I'm
Speaker 1: here for yeah. Well and then and so Sean was
Speaker 1: was Sean Payton the part of that process when when
Speaker 1: you came in like that. So when you came in,
Speaker 1: he was. He was just cool with it because im
Speaker 1: I go back with Sean Payton. Man, I love me
Speaker 1: some Sean Man. He's just just cool cat. Uh. We hung.
Speaker 1: We just hang out a lot during the all season
Speaker 1: sps and all that stuff. Man. He always been real, real,
Speaker 1: down on earth. And I could just tell, man, he's
Speaker 1: a great coach. But how is he? You know, being
Speaker 1: around him every day, I mean Sean, Sean is awesome.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm I'm lucky in my mind. I've never
Speaker 1: like really had a head coach that was a defensive guy.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like, if Sean come down,
Speaker 1: it's something ain't going right. So my best, you know,
Speaker 1: my best days when I don't talk to Sean at all,
Speaker 1: like during the game day, like I don't want to
Speaker 1: see him at all. And then if you come down.
Speaker 1: I love all these plays were still we're gonna through
Speaker 1: thirty blades, five of them scored. I still got forty
Speaker 1: five plays left to go. You know, he's like, all right, Sean,
Speaker 1: but he coming down for defense. It's never a good thing.
Speaker 1: It's never for like positive reinforcements. It's like, what who
Speaker 1: doing I need the ball back? A Hey, we gotta
Speaker 1: he turn over time. Hey hey, you heard what he
Speaker 1: said sign a rope. But I mean, I mean I
Speaker 1: came in. I came in day one and he just
Speaker 1: he was like, look, we need to play the run.
Speaker 1: That's what we can need. We got we got some
Speaker 1: vettering guys. We had Junior Glad of the time. We
Speaker 1: had Will Smith R and p Too, the big homie um,
Speaker 1: you know, we had Jeff Charleston. It was like, look him, like,
Speaker 1: we want you to come in play play this run
Speaker 1: played before I your first second down. And when I
Speaker 1: first came in there like you know, you gotta earn
Speaker 1: your right to pass rush. So practically the whole first
Speaker 1: year I was like, man, I was like, all right,
Speaker 1: we're just doing pass rush. But I got on the
Speaker 1: second year, I was like, all right, well I'm showing
Speaker 1: what I got and I'm never gonna look back. I
Speaker 1: know that feeling too, because I went from Marty Schottenheimer
Speaker 1: who was a defensive coach, and it was the opposite way.
Speaker 1: He never really went on the offense, like if we
Speaker 1: if we kicked the offense, asked doing practice, then we
Speaker 1: had a great dead of practice. If the offense kicked
Speaker 1: our ass, then it was just a terrible day. Everybody suck.
Speaker 1: And then North came in. North Turner was like he
Speaker 1: was an offense. So if we kicked the offense, as
Speaker 1: they look to us like it's a terrible day. Now
Speaker 1: the mindset had changed from having a defensive coach to
Speaker 1: offensive coach. I say, look, I don't know anything about
Speaker 1: that because if if offense has a terrible day, we
Speaker 1: know we running extra grasses and training camp. We know
Speaker 1: he's got me getting it in. Oh we're looks like
Speaker 1: to that no deepense was bading get on the line. Yeah,
Speaker 1: now that makes sense, That that makes sense. I don't
Speaker 1: know what it's like like defensive ball and we had
Speaker 1: a great day. No, that's not how that works. But see,
Speaker 1: you know that's what's crazy to me because when I
Speaker 1: came in, uh, you know, Drew was there. Drew Brees,
Speaker 1: he was in my rookie year, and then was when
Speaker 1: you're coming in. I was, I was drafting a twenty
Speaker 1: years ol. So you really don't understand, like everything that's
Speaker 1: going on around you. You don't know. You got Drew
Speaker 1: Brees there and their Philip Rivers there right behind them.
Speaker 1: So you you get so accustomed to see these dudes
Speaker 1: work and see how it is, and you just all
Speaker 1: of a sudden like think that it's always gonna be
Speaker 1: like that your whole career being around some my to
Speaker 1: else and how people ask me about Drew Brees all
Speaker 1: times to do not only was he just worked, he
Speaker 1: was always focused, always on on point with the task,
Speaker 1: just a crazy amount of work. But during the off season, dude,
Speaker 1: when he tore him when he messed up his arm
Speaker 1: after you know, two thousand and five, and I was
Speaker 1: working out with him doing the off season and I
Speaker 1: got a chance to see him off the practice field,
Speaker 1: how he was working. Drew Brees is on another level. Man.
Speaker 1: The amount of time and and and and his focus
Speaker 1: and preparation is is sick. Right. I was like, he's
Speaker 1: so meticulous about everything, like he's had this he probably
Speaker 1: had at least the same routine in the last ten
Speaker 1: years I've been on this team. Like everything is so
Speaker 1: like like this is what I'm gonna do, this is
Speaker 1: what I do. I mean, I would call it Drew
Speaker 1: Breeze aerobics. The way he takes to the fielding. He's
Speaker 1: out there like warming up before he even gets to
Speaker 1: the gym, like, and he's always like he's always doing
Speaker 1: something active, either for his shoulder or for his core.
Speaker 1: You know, he's he's always working on something. And then
Speaker 1: of course, you know you talked about that film work.
Speaker 1: He's in there. He's in there every day when when
Speaker 1: we're leaving, like, I'm like, all right, that's Drew in
Speaker 1: the film work. Because me, I'm here for you know,
Speaker 1: I'm here for hands, I'm here for the hand eye
Speaker 1: coordination bit, I need all the extras um. But I
Speaker 1: cann't imagine what he's doing that in that room. Yeah, knowledge, man,
Speaker 1: just so that whole thing that, you know, when it
Speaker 1: came out and people are coming down on him, and
Speaker 1: I was like, man, I know Drew man like, and
Speaker 1: I know his family, know his wife, knows kids, has
Speaker 1: just been around him. And so I came out and
Speaker 1: you guys know him in the lock room and being
Speaker 1: around him all the time. I came out, I defended him,
Speaker 1: like right away, I said, look, Drew might have said
Speaker 1: something wrong and made a mistake, but this ain't this
Speaker 1: Ain't that dude, This ain't that guy because Dreda he
Speaker 1: stood up for people when he didn't when he didn't
Speaker 1: need to. He just donated so many so much money
Speaker 1: and helped out so many people throughout his career. And
Speaker 1: so when all that was going down, man like you
Speaker 1: can speak to him and your on your end, how
Speaker 1: you know, guys kind of came together and probably helped
Speaker 1: him out of the locker room. I was like, man,
Speaker 1: this some of the stuff that's being said about Drew.
Speaker 1: I said, I wasn't having it because if I know
Speaker 1: somebody directly and I know what type of person he is,
Speaker 1: I'm not they are. I'm not going to let anybody
Speaker 1: make a bigger thing that I bought it within what
Speaker 1: it is. I mean, it hits on a different level
Speaker 1: when you have actually know the person you know, especially
Speaker 1: when you know what he does with the community, especially
Speaker 1: when you know you know how his family is and
Speaker 1: your kids interact each other. It's like Yo, Like there
Speaker 1: is that like you're trying to you're trying to paint
Speaker 1: my man something that he isn't. Now I know exactly
Speaker 1: where it came from, because you know, if you if
Speaker 1: you know Drew Brees, he has a huge offenny towards
Speaker 1: the military because you know the men and his family
Speaker 1: who sort of raised him and his grandparents, you know,
Speaker 1: they both served for the world, you know when the
Speaker 1: when in the World War. So it's like now I get,
Speaker 1: I get what you did? You know, I mean, And
Speaker 1: at that point in time that that's probably what hurt
Speaker 1: the most is like you were so quick to wrap
Speaker 1: yourself up in the flag. It was like you didn't
Speaker 1: answer the question that you should have, Like you were
Speaker 1: like this is my family ground band, Like that's how
Speaker 1: I feel about it. It was like yo, But at
Speaker 1: the same time, it's like all right, but the same
Speaker 1: flag you wrap yourself up, and like I'm on the
Speaker 1: phone with you, like, hey, explain yourself because you didn't
Speaker 1: get a chance. Like you were on it was on
Speaker 1: like some Yahoo finances of talk, trying to talk about
Speaker 1: like Jimmy John's and Dunkey Donuts, and he sort of
Speaker 1: got this question. So he wrapped himself up in the
Speaker 1: defensive maneuver. But that's not what you're like. You know,
Speaker 1: you didn't address a question. So I was like, yo,
Speaker 1: I just need to know where you stand, like what's up?
Speaker 1: And you know, immediately he probably had ten calls from
Speaker 1: the same same type of wave like hey, I need
Speaker 1: to know exactly where you stand. Where are you at?
Speaker 1: And to Drew's credit, I mean, Drew's gonna answer the phone.
Speaker 1: If you called Drew, Drew's gonna pick up the phone.
Speaker 1: We talk it out, we hashed it out, it's done,
Speaker 1: it's done deal. And then well, what's great about it is,
Speaker 1: you know, to say her name. Initiative with the Saints
Speaker 1: came through out of it. I mean it opened up
Speaker 1: the whole whole situation and not only talk just to Drew,
Speaker 1: but it was to all of our teammates. It was
Speaker 1: a four you know, to to open up the floor
Speaker 1: to anybody and everybody to say, hey, this is where
Speaker 1: we had in America, this is how we are uh
Speaker 1: as as people. And if you feel differently, let us
Speaker 1: know so we can talk about this now. And if
Speaker 1: you don't understand, which made many of many of you
Speaker 1: guys on the team will never be able to set
Speaker 1: foot in our footsteps, be able to be you know,
Speaker 1: be be in a car and driving and then be
Speaker 1: pulled over and you're like, what am I being pulled over?
Speaker 1: Because because my Ben says I need to be pulled
Speaker 1: over and not because of what I'm speeding or whatever
Speaker 1: it is. And not only pulled over, but to now,
Speaker 1: you know, cop feels some sort of way because you're
Speaker 1: six ft four standing behind the steering wheel and you
Speaker 1: know automatically, you know, asked to get out the car.
Speaker 1: Some guys are never gonna go through that. You feel,
Speaker 1: me like, nothing like nothing can prepare you for being
Speaker 1: six ft four pounds in a in a brand new
Speaker 1: vehicle and you know for real, and and everybody you know,
Speaker 1: to me outside looking in, like everybody is supporting them
Speaker 1: the way you're supposed to. Because, like I said, when
Speaker 1: you from the outside looking in and see somebody say
Speaker 1: one thing twenty seconds worth of whatever he said, and
Speaker 1: then everybody in the locker room, everybody had his back. Man,
Speaker 1: I was like, that's dope. Like to me, that was
Speaker 1: dope because you've got all these people coming down on
Speaker 1: you so many um Like I sometimes people don't know
Speaker 1: what the hell goes on the locker room. They don't
Speaker 1: know what's gonna so they got all this stuff to say.
Speaker 1: But as anybody say, the only people that matter really
Speaker 1: is in this locker room. So I'm gonna stay with
Speaker 1: with Drew Bridge was because you said something the other
Speaker 1: day that made me smile from ear to ear, And
Speaker 1: it was about Tom Brady about Drew Brees being a
Speaker 1: better quarterback. Where you were you serious when you said that?
Speaker 1: Because I've been my own. Hey, I've been I've been
Speaker 1: serious every time I said it. I ain't like it's
Speaker 1: not like it's the first time I've said it. I'm like, Yo,
Speaker 1: nobody's gonna ever take away six rings from from Tom Brady.
Speaker 1: He's when you think of success in terms of winning championship,
Speaker 1: that is Tom Brady. You think of the goat of rings,
Speaker 1: Tom Brady, Michael Jordan, you know, like the things you
Speaker 1: can't just be Bill Russell, you know, like rings, you
Speaker 1: cannot just people. But when you talk about talent, you
Speaker 1: talk about putting together the most five thou r season.
Speaker 1: As you talk about completion rate, you talk about most
Speaker 1: touchdowns ever, Drew Brees, like stats don't lie so when
Speaker 1: I say, go he's the greatest quarterback ever and I
Speaker 1: went that to it, and it's it's crazy because when
Speaker 1: he did in two thousand five, when he heard his
Speaker 1: arm I was probably about maybe about thirty or forty
Speaker 1: feet away right now, and I've seen him reaching for
Speaker 1: the ball and do when I tell you like I
Speaker 1: literally heard his shoulder it sounds like a tree brand
Speaker 1: like pow, and him coming over not being able to
Speaker 1: put his arm down. I was like, no, the's no way,
Speaker 1: there's no way he's playing again. And we're working out
Speaker 1: with Todd Durkin uh at fitness quests out there and
Speaker 1: uh In saying, yeah, you go to the off season,
Speaker 1: shout out my boy TV. We're working and I remember
Speaker 1: Drew couldn't throw football like ten yards. And we'll go
Speaker 1: buy a few more weeks and he's sitting over there
Speaker 1: doing his band work and getting everything right in his rehab.
Speaker 1: In the next few weeks he'll come out and he
Speaker 1: threw a fifteen yards. He threw a thirty yards. So
Speaker 1: when he came back and started lightening up the NFL
Speaker 1: like he did, I said something, something has to be
Speaker 1: said about the way he's playing and he's half played
Speaker 1: over the last you know, ten of ten years or
Speaker 1: how you know, ten plus years two somebody else that
Speaker 1: happened to nobody else is coming back like that. No one,
Speaker 1: not nobody that I know with that kind of injury
Speaker 1: and injury. But Drew Brees is a whole different animal, right,
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, Like, like when did when did
Speaker 1: the Saints get him? Two thousands? Was like two six
Speaker 1: and two seven? Yea, like the year after he broke
Speaker 1: he tore everything. But I mean that that's that's probably
Speaker 1: even more so why he's a goat, because I mean
Speaker 1: this last fifteen years stretch that he's put together would
Speaker 1: put you in the Hall of Fame, and let alone
Speaker 1: after you're coming off of something like this, Like some
Speaker 1: guys don't come back from that, you know, especially quarterbacks,
Speaker 1: and you know how sensitive their arms are and everything
Speaker 1: that they do. Their mechanics have to be rebuilt from
Speaker 1: ground up. Yeah, it's a no brain in my book.
Speaker 1: But you know, facts, fact, facts prove themselves. Yeah, a
Speaker 1: hund of percents, y'all got um um you know, tough,
Speaker 1: tough division man, and you gotta you know, obviously see
Speaker 1: Tom Brady twice a year. And I said this the
Speaker 1: other day, And I hate to say certain things because
Speaker 1: it sounds like I'm a Tom Brady hater. And I
Speaker 1: am a little bit because they put my ass out
Speaker 1: of the playoffs enough, so I gotta I got a
Speaker 1: little special hate my heart for him here and there men,
Speaker 1: And it's nothing against him being a great quarterback. But
Speaker 1: what what do you see now? Man? And like that division? Um,
Speaker 1: now that he's moved over and and and like what's
Speaker 1: what's what do you what do you think is gonna
Speaker 1: happen for because you guys to may my opinion, gonna
Speaker 1: gonna see them again, possibly down the road. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, He's going to see him playoffs again.
Speaker 1: Have to wax him again. Um. But I mean when
Speaker 1: you when you come down to it, you talk about,
Speaker 1: you know we are you already have Atlanta Falcons. You
Speaker 1: have Julio Calvin Ridley, you know that, and those two
Speaker 1: guys are you know great, Like Julio for sure is
Speaker 1: a great and Caw really is as a hell of
Speaker 1: a burdener, you know like that boys toasting cats right now? Um?
Speaker 1: You talk about you know Carolina Teddy Bridgewater love the
Speaker 1: way love Teddy as as a person, love Teddy as
Speaker 1: a QB, and the way he takes it the game. Um.
Speaker 1: And then of course you're talking about Ristian McCaffrey back there. Uh,
Speaker 1: that's I mean, these are tough. These are just tough
Speaker 1: matchups are altogether. And of course you talked about you know,
Speaker 1: Tom Brady coming in and you've got you already had
Speaker 1: Mike Ms, already had Chris Guy when you already had
Speaker 1: you know, uh, Aaron Jones, and now they now they
Speaker 1: bring in Leonard for a net, they bring in Shady
Speaker 1: McCoy you signed, and they've signed you know, signed Grondkowski,
Speaker 1: signed Antonio Brown. Now, I mean at this point there,
Speaker 1: they're stacked beyond all belief. And at the same time,
Speaker 1: they still gotta you know, they still gotta see us,
Speaker 1: They still gotta do with us. But our division stats.
Speaker 1: I mean I look at him like, I'm like as
Speaker 1: sack as sacking wise, it's tough just because you know,
Speaker 1: Tom Brady gets that ball out of his hands quick now.
Speaker 1: So so one of the things I want to talk about,
Speaker 1: man is is Michael Thomas, right, because this is obviously
Speaker 1: there's no doubt about his talent to me, I think
Speaker 1: he's probably one of two best best wife receives I want.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with one. I would say he's the
Speaker 1: best wife receiving in the NFL, and I don't. I
Speaker 1: just don't like when you start bringing up things with
Speaker 1: players like their problems, right, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like these dudes are they've been around for a long time.
Speaker 1: They don't. You don't. First of all, you don't get
Speaker 1: to that level unless you're working your ass off. He's
Speaker 1: spending tons of time, um and you really you really
Speaker 1: putting everything into the game, so that that alone right there,
Speaker 1: You don't have that type of dedication and those type
Speaker 1: of results without doing that. So whenever whenever I see
Speaker 1: guys like, oh you know, oh there's something, if there's
Speaker 1: something going on down there, what's the deal going, I'm like, dude,
Speaker 1: you don't get to that level by being a problem
Speaker 1: in the organization. You don't stay around that long. Like
Speaker 1: what's what's your whole take when you hear something like that.
Speaker 1: I mean, especially when you're talking about might Tan. Might
Speaker 1: two is like the ultimate competitor, Like he takes practices
Speaker 1: like he's in a real game, you know, what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: like he runs routes and that's exactly the routes you
Speaker 1: see that practices that routes you that you'll see it
Speaker 1: that same speed, intendancy, intensity in the game and he
Speaker 1: gets it. He gets into it with r dbs there
Speaker 1: dbs like he writes the way that he runs a round,
Speaker 1: he treats the way that he runs around at the
Speaker 1: high level. I always compare him to uh to like
Speaker 1: the intensity of Steve Smith. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like there is no there is no middle ground. He's
Speaker 1: zero or he's a hundred at all times. And I
Speaker 1: mean you respect him because every you know, he's bringing
Speaker 1: in every practice. It's not like it's like, oh he's
Speaker 1: he shows up on game day, he balls out. Now
Speaker 1: He's there a balling out every day. So if if
Speaker 1: if him, you know, if he feels d beholding him,
Speaker 1: he addresses that same thing. And this is pretty much
Speaker 1: great for competition in terms of spirit and energy for
Speaker 1: the team because it's like yo, that elevates everybody else's
Speaker 1: play as well. Like just think about it. You know
Speaker 1: his route tree. Not too many people running every route.
Speaker 1: My Tea's running every route in the book and I mean,
Speaker 1: this is his level separation, is his point of contact.
Speaker 1: All of that is at such a high rate. It's
Speaker 1: like our dbs have to match that intensity and things
Speaker 1: get heated, as you know on the football team, Like
Speaker 1: it's gonna get heated. We're a brotherhood for a reason,
Speaker 1: Like we're not basketball, we're not soccer. We don't like,
Speaker 1: we don't push each other and get offended. Like you like,
Speaker 1: whatever's done on the field, by the time he gets
Speaker 1: the locker room, we'll either hash it out or we
Speaker 1: will hash it out there. And once it's done, it's done.
Speaker 1: And then of course media spends it. However they're gonna
Speaker 1: spend it and like, oh there's termoil and locker room.
Speaker 1: Locker room has never been closer. What are you talking about?
Speaker 1: But I mean, but that's just it. It's it's it's
Speaker 1: the integrity of the locker room that keeps everything safe.
Speaker 1: And I will say that I'd rather take playing with
Speaker 1: one of a dude like that than playing with a
Speaker 1: guy that really don't give a ship, you get what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, I'll play I'll play with somebody's fire.
Speaker 1: Were just gonna fight with dvs, hash it out, get
Speaker 1: in you know, co say something and he get it
Speaker 1: back because it's fired. Man, like you, you rather play
Speaker 1: with those type of guys that somebody that's gonna drop
Speaker 1: balls or don't want to compete and nothing bothers him. Man,
Speaker 1: I'm with you, like nothing, nothing's worse than you see
Speaker 1: somebody just like drop ball and just like all right,
Speaker 1: well next place, like bro, he's gonna piss me the
Speaker 1: hell off. Like my my competitive level is too high
Speaker 1: for me to see something like some some sluggish type,
Speaker 1: you know, behavior like somebody who was like, oh I
Speaker 1: just meant I dropped it and jop back like I don't,
Speaker 1: like I don't even think I don't. I don't have
Speaker 1: it in me. So I mean when I see them
Speaker 1: from another teammate, I'm already charging him up. Like but
Speaker 1: that's what's so great about it. Guess our team is
Speaker 1: everybody's like that, Like all our dvs. Everybody who take
Speaker 1: to practice field is really like that. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: I've had, I've had. You know, you have some teammates
Speaker 1: that you years back or whatever that you'd be like, bro,
Speaker 1: like where's your gear? Like no, man, Like I get
Speaker 1: the Sunday and that's when I show my gears what like, bro,
Speaker 1: Like you can't you can't bear you, you can't bear
Speaker 1: your things on Sundays if I ain't seen on Monday
Speaker 1: through Saturday, Like I don't trust you, I don't trust
Speaker 1: your bit like I gotta, I gotta, I gotta know
Speaker 1: that there's dog in that fight. Right. No, everything all
Speaker 1: good down there? Um, So what's next? Man? You got
Speaker 1: anything coming up? Any events? Charity stuff? What you got? Man?
Speaker 1: You know I'm always working on That's That's why I'm
Speaker 1: I'm always working. I mean, I'm so proud of you know,
Speaker 1: I have the same time, uh sort of got behind
Speaker 1: to Say Her Name initiative. I mean you talk about
Speaker 1: you know, Tomorrow Davis and Malcolm Jakins and sort of
Speaker 1: being like the Brave and children of putting together like, hey,
Speaker 1: what can we do as a team? What can we
Speaker 1: do as infective team? And just coming together between me
Speaker 1: drawing Armstead album, Kamarrow and Drew Breeze uh and figuring
Speaker 1: out what we're gonna do, um and sort of putting
Speaker 1: together with the Player's coalition. This this Say her Name
Speaker 1: initiative has been phenomenal and sort of like I understand,
Speaker 1: you know, I understand just a little bit more like
Speaker 1: everybody knows about the Philandel Cuts steals, everybody knows about
Speaker 1: their mod are boris everybody you know, But it's the
Speaker 1: Ianna Stanley Jones, it's the Vett Smith's, It's it's the
Speaker 1: women that He's like every ten men you here, you
Speaker 1: don't understand there's still you know, twelve women that are
Speaker 1: in the same position. Like there's so many women and
Speaker 1: Black women that are affected in so many different ways.
Speaker 1: It's like, how are we not catching Like how is
Speaker 1: nobody caught this ball? Um? And it puts a light
Speaker 1: on black women and their plight in America, which is huge.
Speaker 1: And then we're able to bring in, you know, the
Speaker 1: black women in the industry. So we've got you know,
Speaker 1: we've got some w NBA players and Tasha Cloud, We've
Speaker 1: got you know, we've got MJ. Cost We've got Taylor Brooks,
Speaker 1: We've got um. Yeah, at this point, we've got we've
Speaker 1: got all of your Marie Taylor, We've got a collective.
Speaker 1: It's like, Yo, we're catching all this insight about them
Speaker 1: into them sexism. It's like everything that you we take
Speaker 1: for granted our day to day lives of how we
Speaker 1: go about our business. It's like this just another side
Speaker 1: to it, UM, and understanding that it's like, you know,
Speaker 1: being married to a woman, being married to what black
Speaker 1: women having black black daughters, it's like you're getting a visual,
Speaker 1: visual prowess of what their futures could be or whatever
Speaker 1: it is, UM, and it brings that much more to us,
Speaker 1: Like how how did I not think about this beforehand? Um?
Speaker 1: And just you know that just goes to community work
Speaker 1: with my God is Love foundation to dream builders and
Speaker 1: you know, and how I partnered up with the YEP
Speaker 1: Empowerment or Youth and Prompowerment Projects UM YEP uh and
Speaker 1: just with the kids of of of New Orleans. UM.
Speaker 1: Always trying to do something for him and it's like,
Speaker 1: all right, well, now what can I do for the
Speaker 1: you know, the black women in them in New Orleans.
Speaker 1: It's like, you know, we started up like a diaper
Speaker 1: fund during COVID, where you know, we were giving out
Speaker 1: diapers and UM and UH and whatever the kids, you know,
Speaker 1: whatever their babies needed for uh mothers who were sort
Speaker 1: of out of work during co it. But I mean
Speaker 1: it's always something like, you know, I'm always in the commune.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to do for someone forgure out what's next,
Speaker 1: and so you know it's it's it's never any process
Speaker 1: because when you've been blessed as much, how can you
Speaker 1: not try and get back positivity? That's dope. Man. Well
Speaker 1: we'll keep up all that, man, and let me know
Speaker 1: anything I can do on this and for this's promoting
Speaker 1: and showing up after this whole COVID thing slow, which
Speaker 1: is just oh my god, whenever I can't wait for
Speaker 1: this whole thing to be over bro um. But yeah, man,
Speaker 1: whenever you name me, man, I'm there. We'll keep up
Speaker 1: everything you're doing and stay healthy. You know, that's the
Speaker 1: name of the game. That's name. How do you how
Speaker 1: your body holding up right now? But how you feel? Man?
Speaker 1: Actually really good? Look I'm trying to tell you, like
Speaker 1: you know, we we got done play in Chicago. I
Speaker 1: think there's like seventy some snaps there. I probably played
Speaker 1: like sixty of It was like after the game, I
Speaker 1: was like it once you get back to being warm,
Speaker 1: because I was probably the second coldest game I've ever played.
Speaker 1: But it was like what was like a woman was like, yo,
Speaker 1: I'm actually like really good, like you know, woke up Monday.
Speaker 1: You know, some some of the days you're like, all right,
Speaker 1: I'm about to be sore your Wednesday. No, come Monday, Like,
Speaker 1: all right, let's go get it. We trained hard Monday,
Speaker 1: had my little uh you know, we got a little
Speaker 1: hill in the back of this place. Tore the hell up.
Speaker 1: I'm ready to go get it this week. You gotta
Speaker 1: be one step faster where you're playing Tom Brady. You
Speaker 1: just get the ball out that fast, yeah, and you
Speaker 1: can come plain. Sometimes he that ball is still gone
Speaker 1: and you're just sitting around. Oh my god, it's not
Speaker 1: That's the honestly the worst feeling when you beat somebody
Speaker 1: either clean because they forgot to slide or taken block
Speaker 1: you off the edge, or you just hit somebody with
Speaker 1: a chop club and you right past them and that
Speaker 1: ball is gone and you're like, man, I'm sick. That
Speaker 1: started been a story of my last couple of games. Man, Like,
Speaker 1: like the first couple of days of season, I was like,
Speaker 1: I'm winning at the high rate and I still can't
Speaker 1: get there. I was like, all right, Like you know,
Speaker 1: when you get too thirsty and then you still start
Speaker 1: like lunging for sacks, then you know, whole like or
Speaker 1: trying to trying to throw your hand in there for
Speaker 1: a half sack and if then you can get no doubt.
Speaker 1: Just like I said, when you get to thirsty, it's
Speaker 1: never good look. But anyway, all right man, no, hey, bro,
Speaker 1: I appreciate you man, good looking out dude, no doubt,
Speaker 1: no doubt. Bless me, Bro, I'm out. Thanks guys for
Speaker 1: listening in to another lights Out podcast with Nie Shawn Merriman.
Speaker 1: Uh Camera Jordan's man is just you know, one of
Speaker 1: the one of the good dudes running NFL. A hell
Speaker 1: of a pass Russia, and I didn't know that. I
Speaker 1: didn't know that he came in playing defensive tackle and
Speaker 1: moved to defensive end until just now. But that was cool.
Speaker 1: He also got into it a little bit about Sean Payton,
Speaker 1: how his mindset is, and how great of a coach
Speaker 1: and how much he loves playing, uh playing for him,
Speaker 1: also getting into Drew Brees and um, you know, he
Speaker 1: had an incident some months ago and um, you know
Speaker 1: everybody one came down on him quite a bit for um,
Speaker 1: you know, I guess in the same speaking out of
Speaker 1: term and not talking about with um some of the
Speaker 1: problems that you know, black men and women deal with
Speaker 1: today in the day's time. But his teammates and Cameron
Speaker 1: Jordan especially, these guys called him and made sure that
Speaker 1: it was everything was smoothed over, and then they got
Speaker 1: a great locker room and great support there and Camra
Speaker 1: Jodan obviously has a ton of things going on helping
Speaker 1: a lot of people there and foundations in UH in
Speaker 1: New Orleans, Louisiana. So thank you guys for listening into
Speaker 1: another episode on the Lights Out Podcast with me Sean Merriman.
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