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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season two eleven, Episode

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Speaker 1: five of Day Guys, de production of My Heart Radio.

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Speaker 1: This is a podcast where we take a deep to

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Speaker 1: dive into America's share consciousness. And it is Friday, November. Sure,

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Speaker 1: it's the fifty eighth anniversary of the Gettysburg Address or whatever,

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Speaker 1: but more importantly it's National carbonated Beverage with day Ak

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Speaker 1: Baha black a red blows. Well, my name is Jack O'Brien,

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Speaker 1: a K may Mayo Mayo chup band. I want to

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Speaker 1: throw up. That's curtsya Ensen Jensen. Not necessarily true of me.

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Speaker 1: I don't mind a little Mayo chup, but my wife

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Speaker 1: not a fan. I'm thrilled to be joined as always

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Speaker 1: buy my co host, Mr Miles Grass. It's Grebraham Lincoln

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Speaker 1: letting you know that four blunts and seven edibles ago.

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Speaker 1: I was smacked playing play Station five. Okay, already smacked,

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Speaker 1: and then you did four blunts and yeah, how many edibles?

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Speaker 1: Seven four months and seven edibles ago. It was a

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Speaker 1: challenging time, you know. And yeah, having Ellen Scandling come

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Speaker 1: on last week that was last week, right, just kind

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Speaker 1: of got my mind going again around edibles and my

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Speaker 1: endocannabinoid system, and I was just like, I was getting

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Speaker 1: really into it. Then this article came out today saying

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Speaker 1: like cannabis like compounds are released when you do strength exercising,

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Speaker 1: like anti inflammatory proper. It's just basically the gist of

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Speaker 1: it was like lifting weights periodically for your health is

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Speaker 1: good for you. Way to bring weed. And we'll talk

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Speaker 1: about those science headlines. Yeah, everybody's trying to get on

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Speaker 1: that weed train, like math is like smoking weed, but

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Speaker 1: with numbers and well miles. We are thrilled to be

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Speaker 1: joined in our third seat by a brilliant, talented writer

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Speaker 1: whose work has appeared in Playboy, five thirty, The Hollywood Reporter,

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Speaker 1: and on the Blacklist blog. You've heard her on podcasts

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Speaker 1: like How Did This Get Made? Seen her in the

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Speaker 1: documentary The Last Blockbuster. She's the director of community relations

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Speaker 1: for the Blacklist, which celebrates outstanding and underappreciated screenwriting. And

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Speaker 1: it's just an all around legend. Mate. Please welcome Kate. Hey,

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Speaker 1: what's up? Kate? Hey? Guys, thanks for having me, Thanks

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Speaker 1: for having me back. Excited to join the two times

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Speaker 1: daily Zygeist club. That's three times you get that that

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Speaker 1: green paper weight. Very exciting I was just trying to

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Speaker 1: look up my tweet I was gonna reference because it's

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Speaker 1: weed related and I thought it was a nice dovetail,

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Speaker 1: which with what y'all were talking about with edibles. And

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Speaker 1: now I can't kind the tweet again. You hold on

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Speaker 1: to that you have totanic search while we're talking total

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Speaker 1: totally hanging out. You know, her plas into COVID. I

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Speaker 1: just moved, which is very exciting. I had been in

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Speaker 1: the same place for nine years and it was nice

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Speaker 1: my ship and start again. But yeah, moving is not

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Speaker 1: very fun. Who knew what they were you in? In?

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Speaker 1: Which region did you move to? I just specific as

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Speaker 1: you'd like in l A. I moved from like East

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Speaker 1: of an apartment. Yeah, I was like, I was fully

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Speaker 1: ready to move to like North Hollywood, but I got

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Speaker 1: really lucky. Check Zillo at midnight, guys. That's my advice,

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Speaker 1: that's kat. I'm sure you didn't say North Hollywood like that,

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Speaker 1: like it's a bad place to be my ancestral homeland.

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Speaker 1: It's not badly listen, howood, I just like I don't

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Speaker 1: love driving on highways here, so like anything Valley then

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Speaker 1: not have to make that change in my life. But no,

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Speaker 1: I go to North Hollywood all the time. I have

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Speaker 1: name everything in North Hollywood go. I don't believe you

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Speaker 1: exactly could fire Pizza Lakers right there. Okay, you know,

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Speaker 1: my favorite video store used to be in North Hollywood,

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Speaker 1: but they I did love Odyssey. I have a bunch

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Speaker 1: the street from them, Eddie Brand Saturday Mattinee. That. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: We go to Jankie Odyssey where the porno is in

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Speaker 1: these shout out to gauge. That's a real generational defining line,

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Speaker 1: like have you ever watched porn on a VHS tape

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Speaker 1: Or now they can summon pornography on their cell phones

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Speaker 1: rather than waiting like four hours for a two megabyte

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Speaker 1: MPEG video to download. A different time. You do it

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Speaker 1: for y'all, We do it for you. The youth is

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Speaker 1: there like seasonality with the Blacklist, Like do you guys

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Speaker 1: the annual Blacklist coming up in December. I cannot spoil

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Speaker 1: Number seven team, which is really almost of legal voting age,

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Speaker 1: the Black Clows. Yeah, could buy a porno at honestly. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: the adult video sections they're handing it. Yeah, oh yeah.

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Speaker 1: I just want you to shave off that mustache that

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Speaker 1: remember my first mustache. It was that thing was look

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Speaker 1: You're looking straight up, I remember my first mustache, Miles.

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Speaker 1: Is it like tax season for an accountant? Is it

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Speaker 1: like that? Wilder? Are you all pretty like locked in

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Speaker 1: on your And also please let for people who don't

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Speaker 1: Blacklist because that's a very infular like Hollywood thing. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: It started in two thousand five by my boss, Franklin

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Speaker 1: Leonard as an annual survey of the most like screenplays

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Speaker 1: you know, twenty five Oscar wins for Blacklist scripts, a

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Speaker 1: But we also have a two sided marketplace that anybody

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Speaker 1: a springboard. And we take very little credit for that stuff,

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Speaker 1: is a pretty nice thing. What was the last big

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Speaker 1: know you a little bit better in a moment First,

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Speaker 1: a few of the things we're talking about. We have

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Speaker 1: an update on the story about Christie Nomes daughter's licensing

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Speaker 1: attempts to be a licensed real estate agent appraiser. Okay, sorry,

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Speaker 1: it's like and also really fucking unfair, how hard it is.

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Speaker 1: flints after existence, or they might have like had a

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Speaker 1: long SNI was happy forget. All right, let's talk about

427
00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:45,600
Speaker 1: Governor Christye Nome and her alleged nepotism issues. Alleged so

428
00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:49,240
Speaker 1: her daughter was trying to get a real estate appraiser license.

429
00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:54,600
Speaker 1: The tests were not fair, they were too hard, and

430
00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:58,680
Speaker 1: so her her mom stepped in to make it all better. Yea,

431
00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:02,720
Speaker 1: And what's what's wrong that the most American thing nepotism

432
00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:07,200
Speaker 1: and being helped out by rich, powerful by gover mom.

433
00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:10,440
Speaker 1: What's government that let graver mom step in and make

434
00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:13,200
Speaker 1: it all better? And yeah, like it was a whole thing.

435
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:15,679
Speaker 1: She had to come out and deny it because the

436
00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:18,040
Speaker 1: whole thing was like again, if you if you didn't

437
00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:20,639
Speaker 1: listen to that episode she want to get her license,

438
00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:23,400
Speaker 1: They said, you know, she wasn't even doing the bare minimum,

439
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:26,040
Speaker 1: so we had to deny it. And then the governor

440
00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:29,560
Speaker 1: Gnome calls like the like sort of the power brokers

441
00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:31,639
Speaker 1: or the people who have the power to decide or

442
00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:36,080
Speaker 1: oversee this process of giving these licenses out, summoned them

443
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:38,680
Speaker 1: to her office for like a fucking talk with her

444
00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:42,920
Speaker 1: daughter in the fucking room, and then like then suddenly

445
00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:45,800
Speaker 1: people were like, oh wait, but now she got approved

446
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:48,520
Speaker 1: after that meeting, which again I just want to refresh

447
00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:51,640
Speaker 1: everyone's memory. That led us to this clip where Christine

448
00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:54,680
Speaker 1: Nome was very much saying like, look, I don't know

449
00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:59,080
Speaker 1: like what's happening here. I just know that here we'll

450
00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:02,159
Speaker 1: we'll just like to say it for herself. I raised

451
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:04,600
Speaker 1: her to accomplish things on her own, just like my

452
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:08,320
Speaker 1: parents raised me. Other appraisers went through the exact same

453
00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:12,879
Speaker 1: process that Cassidy did, and I'll be honest, my administration

454
00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:18,040
Speaker 1: started fixing that process and it was way too difficult. Okay,

455
00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:20,200
Speaker 1: So that's really the one part of that thing we

456
00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:22,280
Speaker 1: need to hear say. It's like, yeah, man, I had

457
00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:24,240
Speaker 1: nothing to do with it. I'm gonna be real. We

458
00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:26,159
Speaker 1: changed some ship though to make it easier because it

459
00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:29,200
Speaker 1: was really unfair. It was too hard. I mean, let's

460
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,879
Speaker 1: be real like, and I'll be honest, it had to

461
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:36,880
Speaker 1: change because it's it is unfortunately too difficult. So yes, her, Well,

462
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:40,440
Speaker 1: it turns out that all this attention on sweet young

463
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:45,359
Speaker 1: Cassidy has been way too much, and now she is,

464
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:46,960
Speaker 1: I guess ready to throw it in And I just

465
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:49,640
Speaker 1: want to read this this sort of excerpt from the AP.

466
00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:53,679
Speaker 1: GNOME's daughter, Cassidy Peters, slammed a legislative inquiry and news

467
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:56,040
Speaker 1: reporting on the episode in a letter to Secretary of

468
00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:59,880
Speaker 1: Labor Marcia Holtman. She also released a document that alleged

469
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:03,680
Speaker 1: it of Committee was seeking to subpoena Oh okay, so

470
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:06,560
Speaker 1: someone was looking so it was like pois lawmakers were

471
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:08,880
Speaker 1: zeroing in on the timeline of a meeting Gnome called

472
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,840
Speaker 1: last year that included Peter's and key decision makers in

473
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,639
Speaker 1: a government agency that had moved days earlier to deny

474
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:20,560
Speaker 1: her application. Oh so here's the thing, as she's saying,

475
00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 1: like she's gonna quit or like there's nothing to see here.

476
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:24,479
Speaker 1: So I'm curious if she's trying to do that thing

477
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:27,280
Speaker 1: where like maybe you stole something but then you like

478
00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:29,480
Speaker 1: you ditch it. So if like people start looking for

479
00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:30,879
Speaker 1: you could be like, I never I don't know I

480
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,000
Speaker 1: have it, I never really had it, So maybe you

481
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,880
Speaker 1: don't have to care about this anymore. Like it's kind

482
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:38,160
Speaker 1: of like her energy. Here's sort of like oh ship

483
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:41,359
Speaker 1: Subpoena's here's this other thing, which leads us to the

484
00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:44,680
Speaker 1: next part, which he says, quote, I am writing you today.

485
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,679
Speaker 1: This is her writing to the Secretary of Labor. I

486
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:50,879
Speaker 1: am writing to you today to express my disappointment and

487
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:54,520
Speaker 1: anger that my good name and professional reputation continue to

488
00:26:54,560 --> 00:27:00,159
Speaker 1: be damaged by questions and misinformation concerning the appraiser certification program.

489
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:01,679
Speaker 1: She went on to say that she would turn in

490
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 1: her fucking appraiser license by the end of the year.

491
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:09,440
Speaker 1: End of the year, though I'm angry, and I can

492
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:14,240
Speaker 1: acknowledge that this has successfully destroyed my business. M hmm,

493
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:18,440
Speaker 1: I mean you hate to see it. It's a assassination.

494
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 1: It's a character assassination of somebody who dared to be like,

495
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:30,919
Speaker 1: this test is too hard. Yeah, that is. That's just

496
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:34,879
Speaker 1: an amazing, like comedy moment of someone sitting down to

497
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 1: a test like that everyone's taking and just like stamp

498
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:41,920
Speaker 1: being like, yo, this is too hard. Right, I'm sorry

499
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:46,200
Speaker 1: what this is too hard? Or maybe you didn't prepare.

500
00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:50,399
Speaker 1: I don't know, Like it's like full strike sand effect too.

501
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:53,320
Speaker 1: By calling attention to it's made it such a worse

502
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,720
Speaker 1: problem than it would initially be. I love that. Why

503
00:27:56,840 --> 00:28:00,240
Speaker 1: women are getting the bulness of old white guys and terms.

504
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,640
Speaker 1: It's like, well, too little Tommy, I had a hard

505
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 1: time on the geometry tests, so I'm going to sue

506
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 1: the school board. Oh god, white women are occurs as

507
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 1: a white woman, I would like to just say, and

508
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:16,439
Speaker 1: you know, white women are are exercising nepotism too, like

509
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 1: their male counterparts have been hearing for so many years.

510
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 1: What a nightmare. I mean, look, I would love a

511
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:24,399
Speaker 1: little nepotism. There's a show, there's a track that we

512
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 1: just went out on recently called the mission, and that's

513
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:28,720
Speaker 1: like this black singer or something about like how much

514
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:32,200
Speaker 1: he would yearn to have his kids experience a little nepotism,

515
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:35,960
Speaker 1: and that's the mission. But yeah, this this defense again,

516
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,520
Speaker 1: it's like, how dare you point out that my mother

517
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 1: abused her power of her office to make my life

518
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 1: easier all while the regular working poor people had to

519
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 1: just do it with their bootstraps and also misinformation for

520
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 1: good measures. She through that word in there. I'm surprised

521
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:56,600
Speaker 1: she didn't evoke the holy Trinity of right, the right

522
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 1: wing scapegoat trinity of basically being like it's George Sorow,

523
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 1: Antifa and Black Lives Matter once again, critical race theory.

524
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 1: I'm sure that Antony Morrison's beloved. I mean, the stream

525
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:19,719
Speaker 1: of consciousness storytelling in that book completely upended my business.

526
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:24,200
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm an s A T. Proctor. This test

527
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 1: is too hard, this is not fair. I object as

528
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 1: this is not fair. Anyways, just shout out to I

529
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 1: I do. I hope this does not dissuade anybody from

530
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:38,160
Speaker 1: subpoenaing the records and you know, let letting us know,

531
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 1: because I really want to see like the test, like

532
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:43,720
Speaker 1: what she turned in. What what what we're looking at,

533
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 1: like the her first draft of like trying to get

534
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 1: this ship done. I want to see the questions that

535
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 1: she got wrong. Yeah, so keep keep it moving for

536
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 1: us folks. All right, Well, let's talk about schools. Let's

537
00:29:56,240 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 1: talk about schools being unfair. Yeah, speaking of that, because

538
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 1: you know, in addition to pouring billions of dollars into

539
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 1: the sweatpant industry, the pandemic has changed a lot about

540
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 1: how we think about schooling because parents had to had

541
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 1: to do it. I had to like sit there with

542
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:15,720
Speaker 1: their kids while they were trying to learn. It was

543
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 1: very difficult. But you know, at the end of there

544
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 1: was an unprecedented rise in fs, which you know, it

545
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:30,680
Speaker 1: feels it feels like that is one way to deal with,

546
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:35,120
Speaker 1: like the fact that a complete act of God that

547
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 1: nobody had any control over came in and made it

548
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 1: much harder for kids to learn is to blame it

549
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:45,760
Speaker 1: on the kids and you know, make the rest of

550
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 1: their lives harder by just flunking them. But a bunch

551
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 1: of school boards have been coming together to try to

552
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 1: address this issue, figure out like how they can change

553
00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 1: how we think about schooling and you know, how we

554
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 1: judge students in a way that will be more fair

555
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 1: and more appropriate to the modern world, right, because apparently,

556
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 1: like the the letter grade thing was invented like a

557
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 1: hundred years ago or I guess, and twenty day back

558
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 1: to and the reason that it stuck is because it

559
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 1: became like very common in the how we graded meat,

560
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 1: and so that's that's how it got like sort of

561
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 1: became such a grade, right, rate F beef, that's my question. Like,

562
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,960
Speaker 1: oh man, my grandfather used to tell a funny story

563
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 1: as the parent of German immigrants who didn't speak a

564
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:51,240
Speaker 1: ton of English, that a bunch of kids which just

565
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 1: lie to their parents about what the grading scale meant.

566
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 1: So it was like F was fine, Dan was damn fine,

567
00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:00,160
Speaker 1: CEE was could do better, B was bad and as

568
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 1: awful son. I mean, you know, it has a certain

569
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 1: sort of a sense to it. But kids won't be

570
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 1: able to get away with that ship anymore apparently. But

571
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 1: I like the things that they're you know, looking to

572
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 1: change are basically they want kids to be judged based

573
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 1: on how mastery of the skill they're trying to learn.

574
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 1: So if they have learned it well enough to do it,

575
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:33,719
Speaker 1: then they get by. If they haven't done that, then

576
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 1: they have to keep going. But like which I assumed

577
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 1: is like how teachers were thinking about the letter grades

578
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,480
Speaker 1: to write like that, oh well they haven't learned math,

579
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 1: but they're pointing out that, like they're stupid things that

580
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 1: go into somebody failing, like you know, missing a class

581
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 1: or not following directions, and so they're trying to do

582
00:32:55,360 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 1: away with that sort of thing, right, yeah, go ahead.

583
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 1: I mean all that ship did for me was just

584
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 1: obsess over being and then like scoring above nine on

585
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 1: tests because that was a threshold for an A. And

586
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 1: half the time it was just I mean it was

587
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 1: funny too, because I think the letter I think because

588
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 1: culturally I was so sort of oriented to be like

589
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 1: these fucking a's better be hitting on this card when

590
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:26,480
Speaker 1: I see it. That like it put into me like, fuck,

591
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 1: I gotta do anything to get in a more than

592
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 1: even being like I gotta do whatever it takes to learn.

593
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 1: This became more about you know, can I cramp memory

594
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:37,240
Speaker 1: recall the funk out of this for a test? And also,

595
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 1: truth be told, I hated science. I just started cheating

596
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 1: in science because I was like, funk that I'm not

597
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 1: sucking my grades though, Yeah, I'll fucking I will. I

598
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 1: will order the teacher's edition of this physics book and

599
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 1: do I have the test already? So thank you. It's

600
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 1: so real, though, it's like you're not learning things. You're

601
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:55,720
Speaker 1: just like, let me learn the structure of the eyeball

602
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 1: for this biology quiz and then not retain a lick

603
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 1: of it for any future. Are sort of like things.

604
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 1: But guys, what about our permanent records? It's going to

605
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 1: go on our permanent records? Oh my god, I haven't

606
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:10,319
Speaker 1: even heard you know. You fucked me up just saying

607
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 1: that out loud. This is gonna be on your permanent record, y'all?

608
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 1: Like this is gonna Yeah, It's like I never saw it,

609
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:20,319
Speaker 1: didn't exist about this. He said you were full of shit,

610
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:23,920
Speaker 1: and they're like, well, we'll talk about that at the

611
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:27,239
Speaker 1: parent teacher for any children listeners, Like, not a day

612
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 1: goes by where my permanent record from middle school is

613
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 1: not dangling over my head by the police, by the

614
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:38,399
Speaker 1: I R. S, Banks, employers, everything, the doctor. But yeah,

615
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 1: so La and San Diego Unified school districts are directing

616
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:45,360
Speaker 1: teachers too, and this sounds like what they should have

617
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:48,360
Speaker 1: already been doing based academic grades on whether students have

618
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 1: learned what was expected of them during a course, and

619
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:56,920
Speaker 1: not penalize them for behavior, work habits, and missed deadlines.

620
00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:00,880
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, motherfucker, that that's how we should have

621
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:04,920
Speaker 1: always been doing it. Because the school closures that happened

622
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 1: disproportionately affected the grids of black and Latin X students.

623
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 1: So yeah, right, I mean, it's it's it's interesting too write,

624
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 1: and I'm sure there's plenty of alternative schools that take

625
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:17,719
Speaker 1: this into account because I feel like that's just a

626
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:21,480
Speaker 1: huge focus area for people in education. But like I

627
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 1: think it's like the stakes are just so high, like

628
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:26,360
Speaker 1: they feel so high in this like a through f

629
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 1: system that it will either create like kids will either

630
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 1: very quickly be like Okay, fuck it, I can like

631
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,239
Speaker 1: rise to this situation or check out because it just

632
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 1: becomes frustrating, you know, and even if they can, like

633
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:40,320
Speaker 1: I have so many friends who were more than capable

634
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:43,319
Speaker 1: of being in AP classes, but like the momentum of

635
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 1: like academia and like being sort of told like you're

636
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:48,759
Speaker 1: kind of like a C student, It's like no, man,

637
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:50,400
Speaker 1: his parents were fighting all the time, and he was

638
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:53,240
Speaker 1: distracted and couldn't do his fucking homework like other kids

639
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:56,279
Speaker 1: or whatever. Like that's sort of what's happening here. You know,

640
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 1: he's not gonna like this mainstream media. I feel like

641
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 1: the mains stream media is a society of straight A

642
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 1: students got into that and or a lot of students

643
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:13,920
Speaker 1: go ahead and buy on depotism and you know who

644
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:17,440
Speaker 1: like actually think and I think a lot of you know,

645
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 1: just a lot of like the people empower in America,

646
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:25,799
Speaker 1: Well not like this, because there is a belief that like,

647
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 1: well I went to a better college and that means

648
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 1: not that I'm I had more opportunities, but that I'm

649
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 1: like actually smarter and need to like be in control

650
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:39,800
Speaker 1: and like making these decisions that affect other people because

651
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:42,480
Speaker 1: I need to make them for them. Like that is

652
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 1: definitely under like under girding like a lot of how

653
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:51,840
Speaker 1: people think, and I think the media and the world

654
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 1: of finance, and like that's also how they justified just

655
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:59,719
Speaker 1: the generally fucked up way that our society is built out.

656
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:03,840
Speaker 1: So like the idea that what do you mean my

657
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 1: kid can't get straight a's Like that's but it's a

658
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 1: competition based market, I mean society that we have. I'm

659
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:14,400
Speaker 1: glad we've like started having this conversation about gifted kids

660
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 1: and like that whole escalator of madness. Like I don't

661
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:20,719
Speaker 1: know if you guys like we talked too much about

662
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:22,440
Speaker 1: it on Twitter, I will say, and there have been

663
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 1: too many things in the sort of like former gifted

664
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 1: kids do this. But I don't know, Like I myself

665
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:29,840
Speaker 1: and a lot of my friends, it's like, you know,

666
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 1: we've been grinding since we were five, like this, it's

667
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 1: not fun anymore. Like I got all the a's, I

668
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 1: did all the right stuff, I still can't buy a

669
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 1: fucking house, Like I am taking a breather and smoking

670
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:45,440
Speaker 1: some weep like I am not. Like yeah, it's I

671
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 1: hope parents are like loosening the reins on some of

672
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:51,319
Speaker 1: that stuff too, and realizing that, like if every kid

673
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 1: gets straight a's and every kid does all the right

674
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:56,959
Speaker 1: sort of like extracurriculars, like you're still in the same

675
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 1: boat when things like COVID happened. So I don't know,

676
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:03,920
Speaker 1: but I I can, like see the Fox News segment

677
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:05,880
Speaker 1: on this. Now it's gonna be like tied to the

678
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 1: war on Christmas. It's like the war on report cards,

679
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 1: woke woke report cards, where work cards are now woke

680
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:15,759
Speaker 1: because it's even now too hard to hear that you

681
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:19,279
Speaker 1: have failed at something. Yeah, sure, but I mean I

682
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:21,319
Speaker 1: think it goes along with this other thing too, Like this,

683
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 1: these studies constantly come out like again, they're showing like

684
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:27,879
Speaker 1: and like Harvard, like white students that were admitted were

685
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 1: like recruited athletes. Legacy students are like on the Dean's

686
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:34,800
Speaker 1: interest list, meaning like parents gave money, and you're saying

687
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 1: forty three percent of those kids going to Harvard are

688
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 1: there because of not I'm sure of like the hardcore

689
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 1: merit based admissions that many of the other students face.

690
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:47,920
Speaker 1: But there's just always these levels to like it's never

691
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 1: the same scale fight to everyone. So it would be

692
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 1: interesting to see where something where it's like, yeah, I

693
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:55,719
Speaker 1: guess what in this version, this kid too will be

694
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 1: treated as a valid applicant to a school because we

695
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 1: have a more just sort of holistic, even keeled way

696
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 1: of saying like, yep, this kid knows that this kid

697
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 1: does too. We are the best of the best of

698
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 1: billion of the children. But so there are reason to

699
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 1: believe that this is a better pristance. There's a school

700
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:20,760
Speaker 1: in New York City that tried this, basically did away

701
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:25,400
Speaker 1: with letter grades, and it was a middle school, and

702
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 1: they say in this Washington Post article quote, the approach

703
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:33,280
Speaker 1: has been transformative. In the fourteen school years, seven percent

704
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 1: of its students read at grade level and five percent

705
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 1: met the state's math standards. Two years later, twenty nine

706
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:41,839
Speaker 1: percent were proficient in English, twenty six percent proficient in math,

707
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:45,319
Speaker 1: pulling the school close to the city average, just by

708
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:49,799
Speaker 1: getting rid of these standards of past fail and like

709
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:52,840
Speaker 1: the I also feel like there's like there are a

710
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:55,359
Speaker 1: lot of great teachers like I. I've had a lot

711
00:39:55,360 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 1: of great teachers. I've also seen teachers who feel empowered

712
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 1: because they get to be like past fail, I get

713
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:09,400
Speaker 1: to pass judgment on these kids lives. Fucking miss heacocks,

714
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:12,840
Speaker 1: I still remember your ass. I don't think we've forgotten.

715
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:16,319
Speaker 1: Yeah she tried. But guess what, I'm good at math,

716
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:20,319
Speaker 1: So there's you can't hold me down. There are some

717
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 1: teachers that are just like straight sabers, and you know,

718
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 1: to say not to malign the many many wonderful, dedicated

719
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:29,279
Speaker 1: like this is their life's work. Teachers in the world.

720
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 1: But you do think back on some of those teachers

721
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:33,840
Speaker 1: you had, You're like, what was your deal? Man? Like

722
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:37,239
Speaker 1: what was going on here? Like, right, I had this

723
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 1: like older person just take all their like life's anger

724
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:42,279
Speaker 1: out on me. Like legit. When I look back, and

725
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:44,920
Speaker 1: you kind of have the wherewithal to understand like human

726
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:47,719
Speaker 1: behavior a little bit more outside of like the academic

727
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 1: or like child adult dynamic, I was like, Yo, you

728
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:56,880
Speaker 1: were so fucking unhappy with your life and you just

729
00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 1: got your jollyes off walking in here and just acting

730
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:02,279
Speaker 1: a fool like that was really that was the loop

731
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 1: you were caught in. Unfortunately we were calling you the teacher. Yeah,

732
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:10,319
Speaker 1: but again, like you're saying, I've luckily had so many

733
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 1: good teachers that, like I could tell I was maybe

734
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:16,320
Speaker 1: like starting to check out or whatever. I was just distracted.

735
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:18,800
Speaker 1: I'd rather funk around or something. And they would always

736
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 1: come like kind of you know, gass you up and

737
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 1: be like, hey man, you're smart, like you can do

738
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 1: this ship like just do it. I'm like, all right,

739
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 1: you got well. And that's such a problem with like

740
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:29,920
Speaker 1: contemporary schooling too, is like we all have such specific

741
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 1: ways of learning and retaining information and teachers have to

742
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:36,240
Speaker 1: figure out the thirty different styles of that for every

743
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:39,439
Speaker 1: kid in their class, every period. Teachers should be making

744
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 1: like five grand a year. Yeah, they should be the

745
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 1: ballers of the earth. Like if you go to a

746
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:47,920
Speaker 1: nightclub and they're coming through a bottle service and the

747
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:49,799
Speaker 1: fucking flares, you're like, oh, you know the teachers in

748
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:51,800
Speaker 1: the building. There should be a bunch of ugly sweaters

749
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:55,759
Speaker 1: at the booth that those Yeah, just like sipping in

750
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 1: the crystal. Yeah, like shout out all the teachers in

751
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:03,080
Speaker 1: the building. We've got to want drinks for teachers. I

752
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 1: like this club. All right, we're going to take a

753
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:08,239
Speaker 1: quick break and we'll be right back to find out

754
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:22,360
Speaker 1: why red wine is like weed. Seriously, you guys, And

755
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:26,719
Speaker 1: we're back, and yeah, it seems like everybody wants to

756
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:31,280
Speaker 1: get on the legal weed bandwagon. The approval rating for weed,

757
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 1: I feel like it's just shot through the roof. Oh yeah,

758
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 1: another conservative see like the revenue potential, Like they're introducing

759
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:42,880
Speaker 1: fucking bills now, Like, yeah, we didn't decriminalize weeds, folks.

760
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:44,839
Speaker 1: I don't know what the fuss going on with everybody, man,

761
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 1: but you criminalized weeds. Yeah, immediately you're like, okay, sure,

762
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 1: but yeah, I mean weed is uh, you know, becoming

763
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:58,400
Speaker 1: more and more normal and there. But here's the thing, man, Like,

764
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 1: so there's these studies it's like the weed like things

765
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 1: the from working out will enter your body, which I understand.

766
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:08,239
Speaker 1: Like there's always like headlines like that were like this

767
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 1: computer algorithm invented the new heroin, or like chocolate consumption

768
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 1: links to longer life, and you're like, I like that

769
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:18,399
Speaker 1: as a headline. I'm not gonna look into it much

770
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 1: more than that because I like the idea that me

771
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:23,400
Speaker 1: eating this chocolate will extend my life. And then you

772
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:25,880
Speaker 1: look into it, you're like, there's properties within chocolate, like

773
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 1: in this very narrow study when you used this way

774
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 1: had a better effect for like mice. And then you're like, well,

775
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:33,440
Speaker 1: that has nothing to do with me eating this gigantic

776
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:37,400
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving pie from reesus. So in this sense, you know,

777
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:39,799
Speaker 1: it's like the sensational mixed with the scientific, and it

778
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 1: usually drives a lot of clicks because you like hearing things.

779
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:46,920
Speaker 1: It's like weed makes you smarter, and you're like, okay, great,

780
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 1: and then you look you're like, maybe this wasn't the

781
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:52,239
Speaker 1: hardest of sciences. But this one was very interesting and

782
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:55,320
Speaker 1: just saying like red wine is like it's giving people

783
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 1: like a weed type feeling. And this was the sort

784
00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 1: of subheading under this study quote red wine induces psychological

785
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 1: states characterized by Bliss, a focus on the present moment

786
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:09,279
Speaker 1: and enhanced fascination with one surroundings, and a softening of

787
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:13,760
Speaker 1: the differentiation between oneself and the environment, where when consumed

788
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:17,760
Speaker 1: in a tranquil environment, According to a new research study,

789
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:21,880
Speaker 1: I said, oh, okay, this is the first time I

790
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 1: started to wonder, and it would it would be like

791
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 1: the end of Usual Suspects when he starts like seeing

792
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 1: all the things that Kayser says it was on the

793
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 1: bottom of the mug. Yeah, Like is there a big

794
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:36,839
Speaker 1: red wine? Like is there a big wine? That is

795
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 1: like putting all these studies out because I feel like

796
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 1: all my life, all I've heard is like red wine

797
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:45,560
Speaker 1: is actually like basically fucking health food. You guys like

798
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 1: it's kind of crazy that we don't let kids drink

799
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:51,719
Speaker 1: red wine because it would make them live till they're

800
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:55,239
Speaker 1: a thousand years old and make them smarter. Hey, snoop dogg,

801
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:58,160
Speaker 1: here's three billion bucks to say weeds the red wines

802
00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:01,880
Speaker 1: the new weed. Yeah for shizzle, I guess it is

803
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 1: red whistle, but yeah, maybe there is big red Wine.

804
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:11,279
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you know they were behind that. This was

805
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 1: like five or six years ago, but I read I

806
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 1: don't even know what publication was in, but it was

807
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:17,880
Speaker 1: about big kale and how kale suddenly became like a

808
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:20,719
Speaker 1: sexy vegetable again, And it was because they dumped like

809
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 1: millions of dollars into marketing kale as this like super

810
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:31,360
Speaker 1: food when it had been garnish on like buffet, pizza, salad, buffets.

811
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:35,440
Speaker 1: Pizza Hut was the biggest consumer of kale to buffet

812
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:39,400
Speaker 1: for all the nineties because those red cups. Yeah, just

813
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 1: because they used it as the garnish in between like

814
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:45,640
Speaker 1: things on the And then there is a big red

815
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 1: wine because they've realized to a bunch of like wine

816
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 1: moms who realized that we eat is like easier to

817
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:53,879
Speaker 1: deal with on a daily basis than red wine. It's

818
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:56,799
Speaker 1: the same thing like with Rose. Like Rose definitely had

819
00:45:56,840 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 1: a huge push from I guess whatever. They're quick enough.

820
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:02,880
Speaker 1: Lobbyists are, but like you know, their consultants who go

821
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 1: out and like we're like, hey man, it's all about rose.

822
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 1: Here we go. But yeah, so this study, You're like, Okay,

823
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:11,840
Speaker 1: I guess what red wine will make you feel like

824
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:15,799
Speaker 1: Matthew McConaughey or you're transpending space time and like your

825
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:19,480
Speaker 1: connections to oneself are enhanced. So I'm like, okay, well,

826
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:23,840
Speaker 1: what's the methodology around this? Exactly? Because again, very interesting,

827
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:26,800
Speaker 1: you know proposal from this abstract. So you go in

828
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:29,360
Speaker 1: and say, well, what's going on? The methodology fucking sounds

829
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:30,880
Speaker 1: like some ship I would have tried in the in

830
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:34,800
Speaker 1: the eleventh grade, because it's not. Really the methodology isn't

831
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:39,040
Speaker 1: that great. They essentially had people fill out a questionnaire

832
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 1: at a fucking wine bar where people who fucking love

833
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:46,319
Speaker 1: wine are already hanging out, And I just want to

834
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:48,759
Speaker 1: read it from this article quote. After arriving at the

835
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 1: wine bar and being seated at the table, the participants

836
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:54,600
Speaker 1: completed questionnaires regarding their demographics, drinking habits, and smoking habits.

837
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:57,759
Speaker 1: They also completed various measures of altered states of consciousness.

838
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 1: The participants were asked to drink two glasses blah blah blah,

839
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 1: and then they said after they finished their second glass

840
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 1: of wine, the participants completed the measures of altered states

841
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 1: of consciousness. Again, Now, I'm not a scientist, although I

842
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:12,320
Speaker 1: always say I am on this show, and I apologize

843
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:14,919
Speaker 1: to listeners that have believed my science advice. But isn't

844
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:18,600
Speaker 1: it like not good to tell people in a study that, like,

845
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 1: here's the thing we're gonna measure you, measure you on

846
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:23,479
Speaker 1: on the other side of this too, like I feel

847
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:26,440
Speaker 1: like you'll you'll, you'll stealth it in the many questions

848
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:28,719
Speaker 1: or something so they can't quite pick up on what's

849
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:32,279
Speaker 1: being asked, so your answers aren't biased. But you have

850
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 1: to do like double blind studies where and usually like

851
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:38,279
Speaker 1: they'll lie to you about what the studies like in

852
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:41,280
Speaker 1: a well designed study, they'll like lie to you about

853
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 1: what it is, like what that they're testing, so that

854
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:46,840
Speaker 1: you're not thinking about the thing that they're actually testing.

855
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 1: This sounds like it is like already people who have

856
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 1: a concerted interest in thinking it's cool and healthy to

857
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 1: drink wine since they're at a wine bar, and then

858
00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:58,839
Speaker 1: they're like, hey, we just want to know like how

859
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:01,719
Speaker 1: cool and healthy it is for the one, so like

860
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:04,319
Speaker 1: that's what we're gonna be asking you about. Right. It's

861
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 1: like how I was able to crack like the quantum physics,

862
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:11,239
Speaker 1: like wildest equation with the help of meth. I was

863
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 1: told to you by people who are addicted to meth.

864
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:17,359
Speaker 1: It's like, well, hold on, like, who is this group now? Yeah? Yeah,

865
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:19,920
Speaker 1: I'm way more interested in people who like don't drink

866
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 1: or rarely having those effects, Like yeah, if you're at

867
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:26,880
Speaker 1: a wine bar drinking wine, you're probably having a pretty

868
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:30,440
Speaker 1: good time to begin with. Not the most sort of

869
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:34,880
Speaker 1: sterile or like neutral venue for such a study, But

870
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:37,320
Speaker 1: he's the thing. You're like, Okay, well, then what about

871
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:42,080
Speaker 1: the control group? There was none. There wasn't even a

872
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:45,160
Speaker 1: control group, And I'm gonna just read these people are

873
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:50,680
Speaker 1: like what this is not? How dare people even post

874
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 1: this SIDS quote. Some people may argue that the lack

875
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 1: of a control group drinking non non alcoholic beverage impeded

876
00:48:57,160 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 1: us to examine the effects of just being in a

877
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:02,920
Speaker 1: pleasant wine bar. However, this is unlikely to have influenced

878
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:05,879
Speaker 1: the results because when we were doing the study, it

879
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:08,359
Speaker 1: was clear that for most people, sitting in a wine

880
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:10,800
Speaker 1: bar drinking a non alcoholic beverage would have been a

881
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:17,200
Speaker 1: boring an average experience. What what yo? Was the study

882
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 1: designed and conducted by Christie Elms daughter. I feel like

883
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:28,560
Speaker 1: we were doing this study really defensive. In contrast, the

884
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 1: effects we observed were of a highly positive nature. But

885
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:34,360
Speaker 1: because some researchers may not be aware of how boring

886
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 1: control conditions with non alcoholic drinks can be, in these cases,

887
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 1: we would include one in the next study that science guys,

888
00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 1: that's like your eighth grade science teacher like being like, no,

889
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:53,120
Speaker 1: you did not do this experiment correctly. Look, if you

890
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:56,920
Speaker 1: were there in the backyard like doing this experiment, you

891
00:49:56,920 --> 00:49:59,359
Speaker 1: wouldn't know that it's stupid too, Like you wouldn't even

892
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:01,760
Speaker 1: done it. I guess I'll do over the next one. Plus,

893
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:04,160
Speaker 1: they missed an opportunity because it's really fun to give

894
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:08,000
Speaker 1: people a nonalcoholic beverage and tell them they're getting drunk

895
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:11,399
Speaker 1: and see, like how wild that could just I mean,

896
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 1: that really should have been it to be like people

897
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:15,400
Speaker 1: that you could have been like people at wine bars

898
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:17,440
Speaker 1: are full of ship y'all. Let me tell you why,

899
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:20,120
Speaker 1: because we gave them fucking juice and they said they

900
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:24,239
Speaker 1: were feeling one with the universe. Then the one of

901
00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:26,080
Speaker 1: the sort of authors of the city just went on

902
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:29,360
Speaker 1: again just to kind of clarify, Like, I'm not saying

903
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:32,120
Speaker 1: we wine's gonna do all this, but this quote. I

904
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:34,760
Speaker 1: believe that the appreciation of red wine and other alcoholic

905
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:37,880
Speaker 1: beverages can be increased when we are more aware of

906
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:41,760
Speaker 1: its effects on the mind. It also, it's also possible

907
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:44,719
Speaker 1: that being aware of the effects of alcohol on consciousness

908
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:48,959
Speaker 1: contribute contributes to healthier drinking styles by reducing impulsive drinking

909
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:53,120
Speaker 1: that is characterized by lack of awareness. However, research is

910
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:58,399
Speaker 1: needed to confirm this. Okay, folks, we're out o man.

911
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:02,799
Speaker 1: So what they have the two things that they've discovered

912
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:07,360
Speaker 1: People at wine bar enjoy wine. That's good study to

913
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:11,959
Speaker 1: study for that second bullet point, like wines pretty good.

914
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:15,799
Speaker 1: Like alcohol is not that bad after to drinks, just

915
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:19,399
Speaker 1: like don't drinking, which like everybody knows, Like that's yeah,

916
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:21,839
Speaker 1: if everybody just stopped at to drinks, that'd be great.

917
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:25,240
Speaker 1: We wouldn't have the problems that we do with alcohol.

918
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:28,799
Speaker 1: But that is not news to anybody, right. I know

919
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:32,240
Speaker 1: some people with some wine stained teeth that will absolutely

920
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 1: uh yeah, I'm talking about this. I feel like wine

921
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:39,120
Speaker 1: became the new beer of like because it was beer

922
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:41,160
Speaker 1: in the nine News with the like, oh, I drink,

923
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:43,360
Speaker 1: but I like drink on the lighter side of things,

924
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:45,960
Speaker 1: and then it switched to become wine. I don't know.

925
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:47,719
Speaker 1: I quit drinking a couple of years ago because I

926
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:49,960
Speaker 1: have a bum stomach. And it is fascinating to like

927
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:52,360
Speaker 1: be in a bunch of context where people are drinking

928
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:55,759
Speaker 1: and like some people are legitimately horrified, but you like,

929
00:51:55,880 --> 00:52:01,080
Speaker 1: don't drink anymore, guys. It's not like a personal affront

930
00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:02,759
Speaker 1: to you. I just like I have to do this.

931
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:06,360
Speaker 1: And I threw up, like that's not fun. You're saying

932
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:08,920
Speaker 1: I have a dry I drink too much, right, I'm

933
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:11,759
Speaker 1: like I'm probably high right now, Like I'm not a

934
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:18,640
Speaker 1: judgment right, Yeah, interesting to see who really gets upset

935
00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:21,279
Speaker 1: when you're not drinking, because it's so like baked into

936
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:23,680
Speaker 1: the fabric of so many things, and it's like, you know,

937
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:25,640
Speaker 1: you hear people be like, oh, well, I can't do

938
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:27,399
Speaker 1: that till I have a couple of drinks or like

939
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:29,160
Speaker 1: you know, I need to get a little toasty, and

940
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:33,080
Speaker 1: you're like, dude, not until I've had my wine? Yeah

941
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:37,080
Speaker 1: really okay, all right? And finally I just wanted to

942
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:39,080
Speaker 1: Every once in a while, we like to check him

943
00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:42,640
Speaker 1: with Netflix to see who's watching what, and they just

944
00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 1: issued a overall list of the top TV that's ever

945
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:51,520
Speaker 1: been available for streaming on Netflix, in the top films

946
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:54,319
Speaker 1: that's ever been available, And yeah, I would I would

947
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:57,440
Speaker 1: love to hear kate your thoughts on this. The big takeaway,

948
00:52:57,640 --> 00:53:00,040
Speaker 1: the big update is this is post squid Game, and

949
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:07,200
Speaker 1: so the previous high had been Bridgetin at s million

950
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:12,920
Speaker 1: hours viewed and now we have squid Game season one

951
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:18,719
Speaker 1: at one point six billion, so it's almost triple the

952
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:23,160
Speaker 1: previous high, and like the the second most watch show.

953
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:26,920
Speaker 1: So like everything else is pretty much where where was

954
00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:29,239
Speaker 1: last time we checked that. I don't see too much

955
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 1: that's new you. It seems to be room. Uh yeah

956
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:39,439
Speaker 1: you all right, you are running up the charts. Yeah wait,

957
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:42,440
Speaker 1: hold on, I was on Netflix, Laura, give it a

958
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:51,960
Speaker 1: fucking rest. Okay, So I guess I'm interested in hearing

959
00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:54,600
Speaker 1: your thoughts on like trends you're seeing broadly across the

960
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:57,560
Speaker 1: types of screenplays they are like being greenlit and written

961
00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:01,960
Speaker 1: and like, I don't know, it seems like a socialist

962
00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:08,399
Speaker 1: critique of capitalism, like resonating with audiences, like like what

963
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:11,080
Speaker 1: has been a revelation to a lot of people like

964
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:13,759
Speaker 1: we're we're writers already on the case. Do you think

965
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:16,400
Speaker 1: that that is going to be a new trend or

966
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:18,719
Speaker 1: what are your thoughts on all that? I mean, let

967
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:21,640
Speaker 1: us hope. So I do think it's incredibly fascinating that,

968
00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:24,080
Speaker 1: like the number one Netflix TV show of all time

969
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:27,960
Speaker 1: is an international show that, like I'm not saying nobody

970
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:30,279
Speaker 1: in Hollywood would have taken a chance on, but like

971
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:32,880
Speaker 1: the creator has talked about, he got passes for like

972
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:36,239
Speaker 1: ten years and then suddenly it becomes this monster hit

973
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:39,080
Speaker 1: on Netflix. And I think it's a good lesson in

974
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:43,200
Speaker 1: being like fuck the trends, like funk what everybody else says,

975
00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:45,560
Speaker 1: like make the thing you want to make and make

976
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:49,640
Speaker 1: it well, and like the audience will find itself. I am.

977
00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:52,319
Speaker 1: I'm really interested that Netflix is sort of switching their

978
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:55,319
Speaker 1: metric from the like two minutes watch to like what

979
00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:58,400
Speaker 1: is it now? An hour or like half of whatever

980
00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:03,319
Speaker 1: the thing is. It's not old Facebook style, but like

981
00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:05,759
Speaker 1: two minutes watched, you're like, yeah, that's like I went

982
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:08,200
Speaker 1: to get a drink after my thing ended and two

983
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:10,600
Speaker 1: minutes of Red Notice played. I did not watch Red

984
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:14,160
Speaker 1: Notice like that. The Red Notice that is wild to

985
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:16,160
Speaker 1: me though, that they're saying, what is it seventy four

986
00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:19,719
Speaker 1: million households watched Red Notice because like, I don't know

987
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:24,279
Speaker 1: anybody who did um, But yeah, you know, I think

988
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:27,440
Speaker 1: it's an interesting time for content. I am hoping we

989
00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:29,600
Speaker 1: keep on this trend of like, at least in the

990
00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:32,600
Speaker 1: immediate future. I don't want to see any media about COVID,

991
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:36,520
Speaker 1: Like I don't want any topical like, oh, it's like

992
00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:39,240
Speaker 1: of the moment. We're like, we're like all the people

993
00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:41,239
Speaker 1: were like, oh, guys, but during Trump, we're going to

994
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:43,920
Speaker 1: get so much good art. Like we did not, folks,

995
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:46,120
Speaker 1: we did not get a bunch of good Trump art.

996
00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:49,480
Speaker 1: There's that one X Files episode that was like literally it.

997
00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:52,759
Speaker 1: But yeah, you know, it is interesting, Like I think

998
00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:55,040
Speaker 1: people are craving more if this sort of like feel

999
00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:58,200
Speaker 1: good escapist stuff like if ted Lasso comes out two

1000
00:55:58,239 --> 00:56:01,040
Speaker 1: years ago, I don't know fit has the same sort

1001
00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:03,960
Speaker 1: of reaction it does in the pandemic when everybody is

1002
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:06,239
Speaker 1: home and like on the other side of that coin,

1003
00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:09,080
Speaker 1: I don't think everybody is like feeling bad watching five

1004
00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:12,960
Speaker 1: episodes of Tiger King if they're not like immediately quarantined.

1005
00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:15,799
Speaker 1: But I don't know. I think the thing that's most

1006
00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:18,799
Speaker 1: excited about streaming to me, just like generally, is that

1007
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:20,600
Speaker 1: we might see a little bit of a bounce back

1008
00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:23,719
Speaker 1: in these sort of like middle budget movies that have

1009
00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 1: been really swallowed up in the theatrical It's like you're

1010
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:29,040
Speaker 1: either going super Indie Awards route or you're going huge

1011
00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:32,120
Speaker 1: tent pole for a studio. And there have been to

1012
00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:33,920
Speaker 1: some things I feel like that have been popping up

1013
00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:35,719
Speaker 1: on streaming that are a little bit more in that

1014
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:41,000
Speaker 1: middle zone. So that's definitely exciting to me. Like bird Boxes,

1015
00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:43,399
Speaker 1: I guess that was like kind of a like there

1016
00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:45,279
Speaker 1: were a lot of effects and it had to create

1017
00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:48,560
Speaker 1: a post Puck elliptic reality, but it wasn't like what

1018
00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:51,760
Speaker 1: it wasn't like pre existing I p And it wasn't

1019
00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:54,359
Speaker 1: you know. An extraction is just basically a straight down

1020
00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:57,359
Speaker 1: the middle like action movie that used to be made

1021
00:56:57,360 --> 00:56:59,439
Speaker 1: in like the eighties and early nineties but not really

1022
00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:01,960
Speaker 1: so much any more. Yeah, the Extraction when they're is

1023
00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:04,360
Speaker 1: fascinating to me that that's like one of the most

1024
00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:07,239
Speaker 1: watch movies on the platform. And then The Irishman, which

1025
00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:09,920
Speaker 1: cost a ton of money but like it's all on

1026
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:13,960
Speaker 1: the screen too, so you're like, Okay, like Martin, you

1027
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:17,680
Speaker 1: get to Happy Birthday short Kang Martin Scorsese yesterday. But yeah,

1028
00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:20,800
Speaker 1: I think these trends are gonna be really interesting, especially

1029
00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:22,880
Speaker 1: as people like Scorsese are making like, you know, a

1030
00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:26,640
Speaker 1: hundred million dollar movies for Apple, which is his next one. Yeah,

1031
00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:29,720
Speaker 1: I think, you know, I don't know, Like sometimes I

1032
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:32,000
Speaker 1: feel good, what I'm depressed to watch something like really

1033
00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:35,080
Speaker 1: feel bad and nihilistic, But like, I don't know, after

1034
00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:36,920
Speaker 1: the last couple of years, you're like, I don't know

1035
00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:41,200
Speaker 1: how much brain bandwidth I have for anything, let alone somethings. Yeah,

1036
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:44,360
Speaker 1: it's gonna make me feel terrible, so I will just

1037
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:50,520
Speaker 1: watch another episode of Bake Off. Do you like? I

1038
00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:53,680
Speaker 1: think do you think that there's because I've been wondering

1039
00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:58,760
Speaker 1: if we're not headed for a like time when conservative

1040
00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:02,600
Speaker 1: like in the eighties, you know, conservative media was kind

1041
00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:05,600
Speaker 1: of a thing, or like the Reaganism was kind of

1042
00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:09,320
Speaker 1: a thing. Do you foresee that or like, have you

1043
00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:13,400
Speaker 1: seen any trends towards that in like the screenplays are

1044
00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:17,280
Speaker 1: getting made, or like just any like regressing a little

1045
00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:19,480
Speaker 1: bit in that sense. Yeah, I mean I think this

1046
00:58:19,560 --> 00:58:22,400
Speaker 1: moment that we're in in terms of justlike new satanic

1047
00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:25,320
Speaker 1: panic or like all of the shady ship that's been

1048
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:28,560
Speaker 1: going on around credit card companies and banks and sex

1049
00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:32,640
Speaker 1: workers and the sort of like you know, crushed to

1050
00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:36,120
Speaker 1: to make everything, like I don't know, more palatable for

1051
00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:39,520
Speaker 1: all audiences, or like I don't know, I noticed this

1052
00:58:39,560 --> 00:58:42,120
Speaker 1: all the time on Twitter, like people being like I

1053
00:58:42,200 --> 00:58:44,440
Speaker 1: had a hard time with this piece of media. So

1054
00:58:44,520 --> 00:58:48,000
Speaker 1: it's like inherently terrible to portray this subject because it

1055
00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:50,600
Speaker 1: was triggering to me, which I think is an interesting

1056
00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:53,280
Speaker 1: conversation to have. But I also don't think we can

1057
00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:57,760
Speaker 1: just like dismiss media wholesale because like it was upsetting

1058
00:58:57,840 --> 00:59:01,000
Speaker 1: to us, like you know, a very a specific person.

1059
00:59:01,080 --> 00:59:02,840
Speaker 1: I don't mean in the sense of like you know,

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Speaker 1: Chappelle making the transfers. That's a different conversation, but like,

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Speaker 1: you know, the shitty boyfriend in this thing reminds me

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Speaker 1: of my former shitty boyfriends, So the whole thing is

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Speaker 1: bad and we should canceled it. Like that's a different,

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00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:17,400
Speaker 1: different line of thinking. But yeah, I mean, I think

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Speaker 1: you'll get to see some of these like new conservative movies. Um,

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Speaker 1: like what's Ben Shapiro doing like that whole school shooting movie. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's a it's a no thanks for me, folks, but yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean the thing I always point to with this

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Speaker 1: is like, you know, there are a bunch of those

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Speaker 1: like inspirational Jesus e movies that get made every year,

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Speaker 1: and they seem like they fly under the radar. But

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Speaker 1: then you look and you're like, oh, this movie cost

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Speaker 1: two million dollars and made forty million dollars and I've

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Speaker 1: ever heard of it. Like yeah, so I don't know,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure leaving money on the table. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: you can write the funk out of a Jesus movie.

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Speaker 1: That'd be like, this is one of the best ones

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Speaker 1: I've ever seen. Yeah, to keep it holy. You know,

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Speaker 1: I speak the language. I was indoctrinated for K through twelve,

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I'll stay in bounced. But yeah, it's gonna

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Speaker 1: be interesting. I feel like, you know, this sort of

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Speaker 1: like like all the parents who were outraged about Disney

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Speaker 1: putting like, you know, sort of content warnings on some

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Speaker 1: of the more problematic older movies and stuff. I don't know, like,

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Speaker 1: you know, at what point do those folks totally give

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01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:26,200
Speaker 1: up on like traditional media and start doing their own

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01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:29,480
Speaker 1: thing because it's too biased or too woke or whatever.

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Speaker 1: But you know, I don't know. I don't see those

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Speaker 1: Disney adults giving it up. No no, no, no, no no.

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Speaker 1: So it's religion, it's religion. I mean, my my the

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Speaker 1: thing is that the way that they've taken like the

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Speaker 1: legitimate complaints of you know, people of color or you know,

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Speaker 1: people who are poor and people who like don't have

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Speaker 1: enough money to have healthcare in America, Like, the way

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Speaker 1: they've taken those is they've like made it into like

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Speaker 1: converse stations about like warnings on Disney movies. And I

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Speaker 1: think by doing that they are making like that those

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Speaker 1: initial legitimate complaints seem ridiculous. And so that's what that's

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Speaker 1: where my area of concern is, is that that becomes

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Speaker 1: the mainstream like I thought people have when they hear

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Speaker 1: woke or they hear like anything coming from the left,

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Speaker 1: is like, oh, you just like are worried about like

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Speaker 1: content warnings or whatever. And I think they're kind of

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Speaker 1: succeeding in doing that. And I'm a little worried about that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't know too. I think we've had we have

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Speaker 1: a real problem in American media right now in terms

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Speaker 1: of how we're exploring class, Like I don't know, like

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Speaker 1: my favorite movie is Pretty in Pink, right, nobody's idea

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Speaker 1: of like a great cinematic masterpiece. But you think about

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Speaker 1: like that movie at its core is about class and

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Speaker 1: about rich boy, poor girl and how that affects their relationship.

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Speaker 1: And like grew up in the nineties, we had things

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Speaker 1: like you know, like Roseanne or like a different world

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Speaker 1: that we're sort of like delving in to class and

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Speaker 1: how it affects people's lives. And we're living in this

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Speaker 1: incredible moment where like a lot of folks are getting

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01:02:06,040 --> 01:02:08,200
Speaker 1: wise to the fact that the system is and has

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Speaker 1: been screwing us for many, many years, And you would

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Speaker 1: think that we'd be seeing more media sort of address

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Speaker 1: those big classifiedes. And I think something like Squitch game

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Speaker 1: shows that people have a real appetite for it. Yeah,

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01:02:20,320 --> 01:02:22,640
Speaker 1: but you're like, why aren't we making more of this,

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Speaker 1: Like where is the sort of like today's Roseanne? Because like,

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Speaker 1: you know, look, I think that as many like terrible

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Speaker 1: conservative people as there are in the world, I think

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Speaker 1: about like my dad's family, who's like, you know, a

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01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:39,520
Speaker 1: bunch of Kentucky coal miners but have voted Democrat every election,

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Speaker 1: like have always leaned liberal. It's like there's nothing that

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Speaker 1: represents them, Like there's nothing that sort of speaks to

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Speaker 1: being like, you know, lower middle class are working poor

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01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:51,720
Speaker 1: in America right now, when that's the reality for a

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Speaker 1: lot of people, and there are ways to do that

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01:02:53,840 --> 01:02:56,160
Speaker 1: that it's not like eating your vegetables and not just

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Speaker 1: like social realism. I think that's why South Side is

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01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:03,520
Speaker 1: a fucking it's like almost flawless, and that these people

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Speaker 1: have normal fucking jobs, and it's very centered in the

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Speaker 1: fact that it's not like, hey, we made it to

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01:03:08,760 --> 01:03:11,080
Speaker 1: Hollywood and now we're famous, so now we can just

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Speaker 1: write from our experience now and leave all this other

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Speaker 1: ship behind. I think that's like one of the things

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Speaker 1: I love about Southside is that it really you're like,

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Speaker 1: oh ship, this feels very like working class and it's

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01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:25,480
Speaker 1: touching on like what what just the day to day

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01:03:25,480 --> 01:03:28,920
Speaker 1: would be, although very heightened for comedic purposes, but it's

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01:03:28,960 --> 01:03:31,560
Speaker 1: still centered in like that world rather than I think

1146
01:03:31,680 --> 01:03:33,320
Speaker 1: you look at most shows now it's like people who

1147
01:03:33,400 --> 01:03:37,520
Speaker 1: live in impossible apartments with impossible incomes and there's no

1148
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Speaker 1: real talk about it because it's about the it's about

1149
01:03:39,520 --> 01:03:43,080
Speaker 1: the struggle with the characters, and while also feeding people

1150
01:03:43,120 --> 01:03:45,160
Speaker 1: this idea, it's like, well, why aren't you rich like

1151
01:03:45,240 --> 01:03:49,160
Speaker 1: these people on the screen. It's the difference between like, yeah,

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01:03:49,160 --> 01:03:51,640
Speaker 1: they're they're Most shows just take place in the world

1153
01:03:51,640 --> 01:03:55,880
Speaker 1: where money there. There is no financial reality, so like

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01:03:55,880 --> 01:03:58,200
Speaker 1: it might as well not have gravity, Like that's how

1155
01:03:58,320 --> 01:04:00,440
Speaker 1: like just oft it is. It's to pervade ace of

1156
01:04:00,480 --> 01:04:03,880
Speaker 1: like carry lives in like an incredible apartment and they're

1157
01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:07,840
Speaker 1: like Sherman Palladino shows like her shows are like that too,

1158
01:04:07,960 --> 01:04:10,840
Speaker 1: or I'm like, I'm sorry, does she where's the childcare

1159
01:04:11,080 --> 01:04:13,960
Speaker 1: for this woman's kids? If she's out doing open mics,

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01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:18,400
Speaker 1: Like where's that discussion? But the like shows like Atlanta

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01:04:18,600 --> 01:04:23,320
Speaker 1: and Squid Game like feel you know, revolutionary just by

1162
01:04:23,360 --> 01:04:26,800
Speaker 1: being like no money is the thing. People need it

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01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:30,080
Speaker 1: to survive and that is a central conflict of their lives.

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01:04:30,560 --> 01:04:34,040
Speaker 1: And I think that goes to say, start empowering creators

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01:04:34,080 --> 01:04:37,920
Speaker 1: writers who like are coming drawing from that experience rather

1166
01:04:37,960 --> 01:04:39,280
Speaker 1: than like I feel like so many people now are

1167
01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:40,880
Speaker 1: get in the habit of like, Okay, well this is

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01:04:40,920 --> 01:04:43,200
Speaker 1: what's popping in the industry. This is what I'll try

1169
01:04:43,240 --> 01:04:46,880
Speaker 1: and do on spec or whatever, rather than like creating

1170
01:04:46,880 --> 01:04:49,439
Speaker 1: more momentum and say like, hey, your story about being

1171
01:04:49,680 --> 01:04:53,640
Speaker 1: a fucking janitor or whatever. That's valid and guess what

1172
01:04:53,960 --> 01:04:57,640
Speaker 1: more people do what you do than are Kendall roy

1173
01:04:58,120 --> 01:05:03,360
Speaker 1: so well need escapism, Like I'm not arguing that, like, yeah,

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01:05:03,480 --> 01:05:05,800
Speaker 1: that's fine, all that stuff can remain. We just need

1175
01:05:05,880 --> 01:05:08,720
Speaker 1: more of the other side, more of the like counterweight,

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01:05:08,760 --> 01:05:11,120
Speaker 1: because yeah, I think a lot of people would appreciate

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01:05:11,240 --> 01:05:15,160
Speaker 1: like more sitcoms, more movies that are like speaking to

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01:05:15,280 --> 01:05:18,960
Speaker 1: some actual real problem ship then like you know, another

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01:05:19,320 --> 01:05:23,080
Speaker 1: another superhero origin story. You know, it may just be

1180
01:05:23,160 --> 01:05:26,800
Speaker 1: like sort of at this moment where they the they

1181
01:05:26,880 --> 01:05:28,760
Speaker 1: have people have to be aware of the level of

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01:05:28,800 --> 01:05:32,080
Speaker 1: class consciousness that's existing in the content because it tends

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01:05:32,120 --> 01:05:35,320
Speaker 1: to have a really potent effect on somebody watching. Like

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01:05:35,640 --> 01:05:38,240
Speaker 1: Squid Game, people went, damn, that's just wild. They got

1185
01:05:38,280 --> 01:05:40,160
Speaker 1: killed over red light, green light, And then by the

1186
01:05:40,160 --> 01:05:43,560
Speaker 1: third episode people were like, comrade, I am ready to

1187
01:05:44,040 --> 01:05:47,760
Speaker 1: bring the capitalist system down because it connects these things

1188
01:05:47,760 --> 01:05:50,200
Speaker 1: in a very real way. And I think and if

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Speaker 1: I was some you know, whatever, if they're if the

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01:05:53,800 --> 01:05:57,520
Speaker 1: Illuminati exists type person the people who are like looking

1191
01:05:57,560 --> 01:05:59,919
Speaker 1: at what is happening in the world. You'd be like, yeah,

1192
01:06:00,040 --> 01:06:03,480
Speaker 1: content like that actually has a lot of communicative power.

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01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:07,720
Speaker 1: But yeah, well, will will we invest in that? I hope,

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01:06:07,800 --> 01:06:10,560
Speaker 1: I hope we do, because more squid games please, we

1195
01:06:10,680 --> 01:06:13,520
Speaker 1: need it. Left squid Game parties hosted by Chrissy Tag

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01:06:13,600 --> 01:06:17,919
Speaker 1: I'm just completely missing the point. It's like, yeah, so

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Speaker 1: fun dying in this capitalist how whole, What a great

1198
01:06:22,160 --> 01:06:28,760
Speaker 1: time with my girls. Let's plays for your organs. We'll

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Speaker 1: have real poor people at my party. Yeah, they're gonna

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01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:34,440
Speaker 1: and they're legit poor people, Like it's crazy, like they

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01:06:34,480 --> 01:06:39,439
Speaker 1: smell on everything, Like oh okay, okay. It's been such

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Speaker 1: a pleasure having you as always. Where can people find

1203
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Speaker 1: you and follow you? Yeah? You find me on Twitter

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Speaker 1: and Instagram at that Hagen girl th h A t

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Speaker 1: h A g E n g r r l um.

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Speaker 1: You can find me related to Blacklist happenings. I'm on

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Speaker 1: a bunch of podcasts. Yeah, pop over on Twitter. That's

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Speaker 1: probably where I'm most active still and fortnately and uh,

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Speaker 1: is there a tweet or some of the work of

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Speaker 1: social media you've been enjoying. You know, we we've been

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Speaker 1: talking about weed a lot this episode, and there is

1212
01:07:11,560 --> 01:07:14,200
Speaker 1: a meme that's been going around that is, if you're

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Speaker 1: ever sad, just remember the world is four point five

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Speaker 1: billion years old and you somehow managed to exist in

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Speaker 1: the same time as the weed pen, which is so true.

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Speaker 1: It's a good imagine telling your seventeen year old self

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Speaker 1: you would have just like a cool weed vape that

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Speaker 1: you can smoke anywhere. I have three pairs. I have

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Speaker 1: three outfits in my car to change in and out

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Speaker 1: of to smoke on my way to minimum wage job.

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Speaker 1: Miles Where can people find you with tweet you've been enjoying.

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Speaker 1: You can find me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles

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Speaker 1: of Gray and also catch the other show four twenty

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Speaker 1: Day Fiance. Speaking of weed, where we talk about that's Sophia,

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Speaker 1: Alexandra and I some tweets that I like. First, one

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Speaker 1: is from Dana Bad is from Dana Donley's all account.

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Speaker 1: You just coxed her bro No, it's it's it's on there.

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Speaker 1: Come on now, come on now, I mean, or maybe not,

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Speaker 1: maybe you didn't get it when it said bad Dana.

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Speaker 1: Dana Bad is the handle for that and damn for

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Speaker 1: an altout already almost got fiftyk followers to keep your

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Speaker 1: eye on her. Speaking of weed, I'm getting an eye

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Speaker 1: exam and I was like, I smoked weed before this?

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Speaker 1: Will that affect my results? And the optomics tress was like,

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Speaker 1: why did you smoke weed before this? It's twelve pm. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I guess she's not about this life. It feels right.

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Speaker 1: And another one from Connor Wood at fibula f I

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Speaker 1: b U l A A don't really drunk text, but

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Speaker 1: I'll have two coffees on an empty stomach and send

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Speaker 1: the most humiliating message of my life before ten am.

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Speaker 1: H ship. Let's see. You can find me on Twitter

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Speaker 1: at Jack Underscore O'Brien tweet I've been enjoying. Josh Gondleman

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Speaker 1: tweeted if Ebene's er Scrooge existed today, he'd have a

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Speaker 1: wife half his age and spend Christmas on a private

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Speaker 1: island and every think about the Cratchet family plus the

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Speaker 1: ghosts will get doctor by as Twitter fan boys. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's no way he would ever come into context with

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Speaker 1: the people who work for him, Like it's done. Funny

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Speaker 1: out of years that you can find us on Twitter

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Speaker 1: at daily Zeitgeist. Were at the daily site Geist on Instagram.

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Speaker 1: We have Facebook fan page and a website, daily zeitgeist

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Speaker 1: dot com where we post our episodes on our footnotes

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01:09:25,920 --> 01:09:27,519
Speaker 1: where we link off to the information that we talked

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Speaker 1: about today is episode as well as a song that

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Speaker 1: we think you might enjoy. Myles, what song do we

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Speaker 1: think people might enjoy? This is a new band I

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Speaker 1: just stumbled upon from I believe I want to say Germany.

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Speaker 1: Let me just confirm that, yep, Leipzig. They are called

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Speaker 1: Mutel Kabbala Power Ensemble and what they do is like

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Speaker 1: a very interesting They sound like if like kids in

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Speaker 1: Europe only listening to like Morning becomes Eclectic on k

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Speaker 1: CRW and then start a band because they're all like

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Speaker 1: these German guys, but they're playing the funk out of

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Speaker 1: like afro be like funky sort of samba. Like. Their

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Speaker 1: foundation is very much built in like world like world music,

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Speaker 1: very rhythmic music. So when I first heard this little

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