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Speaker 3: Jeff Schwartz, it was like a happy New Year for

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Speaker 3: the Boston Celtics last night. What a game. I don't

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Speaker 3: believe it. I can't believe athletes are back to the wall.

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Speaker 3: Oh three, right now we have a game seven. Tell

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Speaker 3: me all about it, Jeff.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's pretty remarkable. Good morning everyone. I didn't

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Speaker 1: think we'd be here. Quite honestly, I thought, Okay, Celtics

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Speaker 1: win game four, that makes sense. Back against the wall,

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Speaker 1: all right? You win game five at home? All right?

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Speaker 1: Certainly Game six is going to the heat. And if

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Speaker 1: you look at at just the box score, right, the

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Speaker 1: Heat had made seven more threes, six less turnovers, they

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Speaker 1: rebounded both the same, Like you would imagine that the

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Speaker 1: Heat would have won this game, right. This is a

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Speaker 1: game where in this series, for the most part, the

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Speaker 1: best team from the three point line, and that's the

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Speaker 1: way the NBA often works, is winning the game, especially

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Speaker 1: when you have a seven made three discrepancy twenty from

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Speaker 1: the three point line and won a road playoff game.

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Speaker 1: Part of that is, you know, Jimmy Butler didn't play

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Speaker 1: very well the first basically, you know, forty two minutes

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Speaker 1: of that game, Bam had eleven points. But I really

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Speaker 1: did not believe the Celtics had this in him to

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Speaker 1: win four straight. And I don't know how you pick

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Speaker 1: Miami to win Game seven at this moment, right, like

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Speaker 1: that was the game Miami should have won last night

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Speaker 1: to end the series, and they didn't. And now they're

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Speaker 1: going back to Game seven. And and you know, credit

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Speaker 1: the Celtics, man, they they fought through it. They figure

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Speaker 1: things out. Their defense has been much better last three games.

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Speaker 1: I didn't think we'd be here, Andy, but we are.

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Speaker 1: It's it's a it's a remark for a run that

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Speaker 3: It amazes me because the Celtics take control much of

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Speaker 3: the game. They had at ten point lead with about

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Speaker 3: four minutes to play in the fourth quarter. He comes

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Speaker 3: back Jason Tatum, who's been ripped by national media people

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Speaker 3: left and right, and I guess you know, they figure

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Speaker 3: that he's one of the best, he's the leader, and

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Speaker 3: they deserve more than he should be giving them more.

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Speaker 3: He gave him thirty one points, eleven boards, five assists,

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Speaker 3: and Jalen Brown came back with twenty six points. And

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Speaker 3: I tell you what, I'm hearing the pregame chatter. I'm

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Speaker 3: hearing the pregame talk. I'm hearing, you know, the Shacks

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Speaker 3: and you know this better than anybody. All they talk

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Speaker 3: about is that the star players have to rise up

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Speaker 3: and get the job done. I get that, okay, But

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Speaker 3: you know, as well as anybody else, most of these cases,

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Speaker 3: it's the guys that are kind of the fringe players

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Speaker 3: that come out of nowhere and that surprise you. And

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Speaker 3: that's basically what happens with the Vincent's of the world

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Speaker 3: in Miami with fifteen and Robinson, Duncan Robinson who blew

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Speaker 3: through open three pointers down the stretch, he had thirteen points.

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Speaker 3: Those are the guys that are gonna win the games.

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Speaker 1: For you, yes and no, right, like you do need

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Speaker 1: those guys. You talk about a Marcus Smart give him

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Speaker 1: But in the moments of the most stress, the moments

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Speaker 1: the NBA looks for as wide open as it can

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Speaker 1: It's a lot of set offense, right, It's a lot

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Speaker 1: You mentioned Duckan Robinson blowing to open. I was shocked

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Speaker 1: Those guys don't make those shots very often, right, And

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Speaker 1: the stars should. The stars should, And that's why the

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Speaker 1: mister faushot on the road in big moments. But I

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Speaker 1: I that's why, Andy, that's why you say, Okay, we

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Speaker 1: times the role players are good until they're not, and

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's funny because the Bust and Celtics relied on

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Speaker 3: three point shooting throughout the playoffs. When they were hot

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Speaker 3: on the threes, they were winning. Last night, that shot

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Speaker 3: seven to thirty five, which is something like twenty percent.

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Speaker 3: Jason Tatum, who did score thirty one, he was zero

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Speaker 3: for eight for three, So statistically, I mean, everything was

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Speaker 3: off balance when everybody was talking about prior to the game.

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Speaker 3: As a matter of fact, the Miami Heat shot forty

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Speaker 1: The box score would have told you the Heat won

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Speaker 1: why I'm worried about Game seven for the Heat. Now,

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Speaker 1: as far as I'm not worried about Jimmy Butler, I

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Speaker 1: at home, right, They're more comfortable at home, the crowd.

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Speaker 1: why winning a home game when you have a game

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Speaker 1: It's advisable to do it, to do it now, and

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Speaker 1: they just didn't. And I look again, I wrote the

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Speaker 1: all those things. They're gonna be the favorite for Game seven.

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Speaker 1: I would imagine they're favored by four points ish five points,

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Speaker 1: and they rightfully should be. I think I think at

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Speaker 1: We know that.

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Speaker 3: Like going into the series.

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Speaker 1: They're eight point favorites on Monday Night. Wow, Wow, they've

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Speaker 1: been Actually, to be fair, they've been about eight point

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Speaker 1: favorites for every home game. They they are the better team.

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Speaker 1: They didn't play like it. And now they're going back

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Speaker 1: home for a Game seven. And this has been a

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Speaker 1: bad series to bet on. I have not done well

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Speaker 1: this series. I have no idea what's happening. I did

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Speaker 1: win my heat wager live yesterday. I took some points

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Speaker 1: It's a hard series. Like I could say, yeah, I

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Speaker 1: think the Celtics get it done. Don't think they win

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Speaker 3: Here's my question for you, and I ask you as

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Speaker 3: done in playoffs. We're in the NBA. They got the series.

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Speaker 3: But what is going through the mind of an athlete

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Speaker 3: all over now? Are they defeated? Deflated that those confidence?

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Speaker 1: Boston right now thinks they're gonna just they're gonna kick

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Speaker 1: game seven, right, Like they think they're gonna go in

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Speaker 1: there and they're gonna get it done the heat. Jimmy

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Speaker 1: Butler is gonna be fine. BAM's gonna be fine. They

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Speaker 1: seven of this magnitude in Boston like this, I think

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Speaker 1: there's gonna be It's just they're gonna they're gonna win.

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Speaker 1: why the role players typically in these games just don't

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Speaker 1: as good Andy, right, They're just not as good and

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Speaker 1: they think they're gonna they look they absolutely think they're

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Speaker 1: missing a couple of shots, the crowd gets into it.

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Speaker 1: And you talked about Tatum earlier, right, like the superstars,

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Speaker 1: this is where they come in, right. You know, you're

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Speaker 1: you're down seven early, you're not making any shots. It's

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Speaker 1: where Jimmy Butler and Bam have got to come right.

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Speaker 1: It's where it's where you rely on those guys to

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Speaker 1: get us back because they've been here before, they played

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Speaker 1: the crowd's gonna be raucous, man. You know, we know

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Speaker 1: the Red Sox had the historic come back against the Yankees,

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Speaker 1: like Boston has felt us before, So they're going to

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Speaker 1: to be It's gonna be loud. It's gonna be crazy

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Speaker 1: in the garden. On the game seven Monday.

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Speaker 3: Night, let's go back to the end of the ballgame,

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Speaker 3: because the Heat come back. They take the lead with

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Speaker 3: three seconds to play, Jimmy Butler was fouled on a

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Speaker 3: three point foul show knock downe all three, which is

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Speaker 3: the dumbest thing I ever saw. Alcoholford foul to him.

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Speaker 3: He did foul him in the act of shooting.

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Speaker 1: It was easy for him to draw that foul. It's

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Speaker 1: a switch game, right it was.

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Speaker 3: So he goes to the line, gets all three, so

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's really to me. It's up to like

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Speaker 3: It amazes me because A we could go you and

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Speaker 3: There you go. He's Jeff Schwartz and Andy Furman. This

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Speaker 3: We'll tell you what really needed to be changed. We'll

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Speaker 3: In the NFL, as you know, Jeff Schwartz is going

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Speaker 3: to adjust its kickoff rules for the twenty twenty free season,

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Speaker 3: It's going to result in a touchback. They'll start the

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Speaker 3: we wouldn't want to have any more injuries, prevent concussions,

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Speaker 1: It absolutely does. This is the college rule, by the way,

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Speaker 1: you guys kind of I think fundamentally change a lot

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Speaker 1: Design a kickoff or both teams start ten yards apart,

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Speaker 1: the balls kick deep, and you eliminate those collisions, right,

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Speaker 1: it forces teams to have to make good roster choices

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Speaker 1: away that pooch kick, right that that kick is you know,

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Speaker 1: they're trying to pin the opponent down inside the five

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Speaker 1: yard line and then try to get your coverage team

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Speaker 1: there before they get to the twenty five yard line. Right,

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Speaker 1: this is what that that that that takes care of

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Speaker 1: if when the ball gets pushed up in the air,

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Speaker 1: if you're a kickoff return, you don't watch the ball, right,

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Speaker 1: You run to a spot, turn around, and get ready

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Speaker 1: to go. Now, of course, if you're in the process

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Speaker 1: of going back and you see the ball going way

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Speaker 1: deep in the end zone, you know it's a touchback,

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Speaker 1: right like you know it's not gonna be returned, but

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Speaker 1: still you still get to your spot, you get ready

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Speaker 1: to block, and the kickoff team which is running out

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Speaker 1: to make the play. If the ball is kicked way

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Speaker 1: out in the back of the end zone, they see

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Speaker 1: it too. They see the return of signal I'm not

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Speaker 1: catching the ball, kind of puts his arms out wide,

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Speaker 1: meaning like I'm not catching the ball, and they avoid

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Speaker 1: contact and there's no contact made on that play. But

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Speaker 1: on a pooch kick, if you're if you're a kickoff

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Speaker 1: for turn A, you don't see the ball go deep.

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Speaker 1: You might not even see the player signal fair catch.

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Speaker 1: They're not gonna yell out fair catch. And so you're

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Speaker 1: going back to get ready to block. Right, if you're

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Speaker 1: on the kickoff team, you're running down, you see the

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Speaker 1: pooch check, you might see that guy's signal fair catch,

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Speaker 1: but you can't slow down because what if he muffs

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Speaker 1: the punt, muffs the kickoff? Right, he almost the ball

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Speaker 1: like you're going full speed still, and that blocker, if

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Speaker 1: you're going full speed, it's going to try to hit you.

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Speaker 1: It's like the contact doesn't end, it ends on trying

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Speaker 1: to tackle the returner. Sure, but those collisions often aren't

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Speaker 1: as big because those guys aren't used to run the football.

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Speaker 1: You you cut their legs out, they go down and

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Speaker 1: then edit and play. So I don't just don't know

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Speaker 1: how much this really lessens the contact between kickoff returners

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Speaker 1: and kickoff and the kickoff team and the blockers.

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Speaker 3: So I just well, you mentioned safety and certainly in

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Speaker 3: the back of the minds of the NFL, and when

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Speaker 3: they say safety, what it really means is we don't

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Speaker 3: want to be sued anymore. That's what they really say.

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Speaker 1: Said that before. It's not a surprise, yes.

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Speaker 3: Right, So when I say safety, if they really want

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Speaker 3: to do something to really make the thing safer, they

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Speaker 3: should change ald turf fields to natural grass. And I

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Speaker 3: saw a great piece the other day at HBO Real Sports.

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Speaker 3: It was unbelievable the's studies that have been done on

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Speaker 3: injuries on turf as opposed to grass.

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Speaker 1: So why do you mention that. I you can tell

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Speaker 1: a difference as a player when you are you need

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Speaker 1: older first of all, when you practice on turf, So

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Speaker 1: you know, if you are in a cold weather city,

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Speaker 1: you're going to practice inside for the last eight weeks

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Speaker 1: of the year, right. Coaches don't want to be cold,

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Speaker 1: and they don't want whether to be involved in practice.

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Speaker 1: They want to have a crisp practice. Any interference from

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Speaker 1: weather and you're gonna go inside into your indoor facility

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Speaker 1: and you can feel you know, your legs after a

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Speaker 1: week of practice on the turf, like it doesn't feel

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Speaker 1: like you feel those aches and pains a little bit.

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Speaker 1: You know, your your legs are a little heavier versus

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Speaker 1: when you practice on grass, like I would as I

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Speaker 1: got older, I would have much rather lay layer up,

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Speaker 1: you know, sweatpants, sweatshirt, beanie, you know, long Johnson. I

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Speaker 1: would much rather have done that and go practice outside

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Speaker 1: on the grass then be warm inside. Like it makes

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Speaker 1: such a difference on that soft, cushy grass. Your joints

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Speaker 1: just don't take as much right, they feel so much better.

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Speaker 1: In Kansas City in twenty thirteen, I played fifteen of

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Speaker 1: seventeen games, including the playoff game that year because we

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Speaker 1: only sixteen games on grass. Dude, I felt so good.

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Speaker 1: We practiced outside all the time. Oh, I felt so good.

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Speaker 1: It was so nice. You know, I'm in Carolina and

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Speaker 1: the Panthers had the best grass. It was great. It grew,

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Speaker 1: you know, year round in Charlotte. It was green. It

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Speaker 1: was great. And then they got rid of it for

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Speaker 1: turf for the soccer club here, Charlotte Football Club. And

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Speaker 1: it's like, why, like no one watchs this. I give

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Speaker 1: us back our grass.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't be cheaper upkeep I'm sure, I guess.

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Speaker 1: But I like I often will disagree with how the

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Speaker 1: PA does things, and sometimes they go they try to

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Speaker 1: do things that I don't understand the purpose of of

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Speaker 1: why you're going so hard for this thing. But this,

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Speaker 1: I'm glad the NFL PA is fighting as hard as

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Speaker 1: they are to try to bring grass fields back. It's

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Speaker 1: so much better on our joints, our body parts. You know,

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Speaker 1: when you fall down and hit your head. I know

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Speaker 1: we talk about player safety when when you hit your

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Speaker 1: head on grass first turf, it's just in the data

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Speaker 1: bears it out. Man Like, Then if we're talking about

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Speaker 1: player safety, this is one where they can drastically change

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Speaker 1: player safety by just changing the field. And you can't

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Speaker 1: tell me that you can't have grass. If Philly has grass,

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Speaker 1: if Washington has grass, Pittsburgh, the day, Green Bay, Kansas City.

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Speaker 1: There's a bunch of cold weather cities that have grass.

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Speaker 1: You can't tell me that Buffalo can't have grass or

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Speaker 1: or any so you know, I get if you're inside

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Speaker 1: you can't have grass. But then again to to say

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Speaker 1: right now in Vegas and Arizona are domes that have grass,

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Speaker 1: right they roll the grass out, they grow it and

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Speaker 1: roll it back. Yeah. Now that grass of times we

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Speaker 1: know in Arizona could be a little fucky. But you

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Speaker 1: can do that with a new stadium and so I

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Speaker 1: know some aren't built that way. Fine, but if you're

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Speaker 1: an outdoor stadium, to me, you need to have grass.

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Speaker 3: I'm with you right there. He's Jeff Schwartz and Andy Furman.

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Speaker 3: This is Fox Sports Sunday on Fox Sports right now.

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Speaker 3: Coming up next on Fox Sports Sunday Life from the

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Speaker 3: tiraq dot com studios. All they wanted was a partner

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Speaker 3: and they couldn't find one. That's next, But first, Surry,

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Speaker 3: we're a little late for Kevin Wyatt with all the sports.

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Speaker 4: Well, one player who was not late was Derek White.

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Speaker 4: He is actually was just in time as at the

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Speaker 4: last millisecond Game six of the Eastern Conference Finals, Derek

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Speaker 4: White was there to put in a missed three pointer.

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Speaker 3: This is the height of crusher.

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Speaker 2: The moment we'll be playing over and over and over again.

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Speaker 3: It's in the hands of Derek White.

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Speaker 1: Here we go.

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Speaker 2: Smart turns face is three gripped up.

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Speaker 3: It was tapped upping in, but it didn't come too late.

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Speaker 3: We don't know anything yet.

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Speaker 4: And upon further review, right before the buzzer went off,

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Speaker 4: maybe a tenth of a second before the light on

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Speaker 4: the backboard lit up, Derek Whitees put back attempt went in,

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Speaker 4: and it gave the Celtics a one oh four to

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Speaker 4: one oh three win against the Miami Heat. They have

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Speaker 4: now tied that best of seven series at three games

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Speaker 4: apiece after being down three to nothing, and they forced

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Speaker 4: a game seven Monday night in Boston. And for what

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Speaker 4: it's worth, Miami took the lead with just three seconds

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Speaker 4: to go on three free throws by Jimmy Butler, setting

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Speaker 4: up that final play. And if you're the actually for

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Speaker 4: the Heat, they want to play right now.

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Speaker 5: Look, this is the way this season's been. This is

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Speaker 5: one hell of a series at this time right now.

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Speaker 5: I don't know how we're gonna get this done, but

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Speaker 5: we're gonna go up there and get it done. And

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Speaker 5: that's what the next forty eight hours is about. We

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Speaker 5: wish we could tip this thing off right now, right now.

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Speaker 5: We want to tip the sing off and let's play

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Speaker 5: another forty eight minutes. But we'll wait forty eight hours

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Speaker 5: and do the sing in Boston.

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Speaker 3: That was he coach Eric Spolstra.

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Speaker 4: NBA news the Milwaukee Bucks set to hire Raptors assistant

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Speaker 4: Adrian Griffin. He was also a former Milwaukee assistant coach

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Speaker 4: and in the nhlbum the Dallas Stars survived by beating

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Speaker 4: the Vegas Golden Nights four to two. That forces a

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Speaker 4: game six that will be in at Dallas Monday evening.

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Speaker 4: And tonight's result means the Stanley Cup Final will not

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Speaker 4: start until next Saturday, and Florida guaranteed to be on

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Speaker 4: the road.

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Speaker 3: Back of you, guys, Thanks Kevin. Here we go. Okay,

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Speaker 3: the big question why now, we'll explain that in just

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Speaker 3: about a minute. He's Jeff Schwartz. I'm Andy Ferman. And

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Speaker 3: of course we have to eat my Schwartz in about

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Speaker 3: seven eight minutes. For now, we'll talk about the Arizona Cardinals.

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Speaker 3: A major move they cut wide receiver DeAndre Hopkins I

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Speaker 3: ask you now, mister Schwartz, why and why now? Because

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Speaker 3: obviously to me it looks like the Arizona Connells are

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Speaker 3: doing like a clean sweep, looking for the future, new coach,

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Speaker 3: new general manager, and who knows what's gonna happen with

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Speaker 3: their quarterback as well?

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Speaker 1: Well, who knows what's gonna happen. He's not gonna play

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Speaker 1: for them anymore. Look, I just I don't see Kyler Murray.

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Speaker 1: I mean, maybe they bring him back at some point

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Speaker 1: this year of office ACL, But I really, I said

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Speaker 1: at the time when they when they got a new

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Speaker 1: general manager, a new head coach, I don't really see

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Speaker 1: him playing much longer for Arizona. Arizona right now is

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Speaker 1: in the Kidd Williams hunt. Right They are trying to

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Speaker 1: be as bad as possible, to be the worst team

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Speaker 1: in the NFL and get the number one pick of

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Speaker 1: the draft. Now, of course, I says as many times,

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Speaker 1: tanking is extremely hard in the NFL because the players

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Speaker 1: on Sunday play very hard season. We've seen it year

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Speaker 1: after year. Taking is tough. How you tank though, is

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Speaker 1: not on game day Again, players and coaches are trying

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Speaker 1: to win. You cannot tell the player and coach not.

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Speaker 1: We said that very Houston last year, right Game seventeen

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Speaker 1: in Indianapolis. They wanted to lose and they won. You

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Speaker 1: cannot tell coaches and players to not play hard on Sunday, Monday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday,

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Speaker 1: whenever the games are at Now every day it feels like.

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Speaker 1: So what you do is you have a terrible roster

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Speaker 1: and a bad quarterback. Part of it is getting rid

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Speaker 1: of DeAndre Hopkins. Right, that's the process of how it begins.

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Speaker 1: The reports were the Chiefs and Bills called over there

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Speaker 1: salary was too rich for their liking. And then when

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Speaker 1: O'Dell signed his fifteen million dollar deal, the price was

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Speaker 1: much higher than the Chiefs or or or Bills want

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Speaker 1: to pay. And I still think the Chiefs the Chiefs,

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Speaker 1: and again the Chiefs fan off all them most closely.

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Speaker 1: They're not paying for DeAndre Hopkins as sent more than

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Speaker 1: they want to. And it'd be a great fit for

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Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins. You go to a winner, you opportunity to

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Speaker 1: win a Super Bowl. But they're all paying fifty million

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Speaker 1: dollars a year for him. So again it makes sense

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Speaker 1: for Arizona to do this, get them off their books,

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Speaker 1: eat the cap hit this year and get ready for

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Speaker 1: clean twenty twenty four. When you have the number one

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Speaker 1: pick on the draft and you have Houston's picks, you

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Speaker 1: get one and two and you rebuild your franchise.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Kyler Murray right now is in a bad way

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Speaker 3: because he signed the two hundred thirty million dollar contract

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Speaker 3: last summer.

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Speaker 1: He's in a good way with that though.

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Speaker 3: Well he's good here with that, but I think his

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Speaker 3: future playing football for Arizona is kind of bleak. It

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Speaker 3: really is right now.

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Speaker 1: When you get look, there are fifty examples in the

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Speaker 1: last ten years of new general manager, new head coach

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Speaker 1: foot the roster. I mean I was twenty thirteen. I

648
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Speaker 1: was part of it with John Dorsey came in as

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Speaker 1: a general manager for the Jeeves and Andy Reid was

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Speaker 1: hired as a head coach. They basically got to the

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Speaker 1: entire roster. No one wants guys they don't have attachment to.

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Speaker 1: They want guys they've drafted, they've brought in. This is

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Speaker 1: what happens in Arizona. Brought in a new head coach,

654
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Speaker 1: a new general manager, and no attachment to Kylin Murray.

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Speaker 1: We know the questions about Kylin Murray not his work ethic.

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Speaker 1: I think he works plenty fine, but just kind of

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Speaker 1: the extra things, right, the leadership part of it. We've

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Speaker 1: had players respected players, the left tackles. I think he

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Speaker 1: plays a right tackle. Now, Beacham, who's been in the

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Speaker 1: NFL for ten plus years, NFLPA, you know very well.

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Speaker 1: Respective veteran go out on record and say like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Kyler Murray needs to mature a little bit, right, Like

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Speaker 1: we've had enough of these comments to where a new

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Speaker 1: general manager and a new head coach are like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to deal with this guy. We didn't

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Speaker 1: draft him. When you draft a player, there's an attachment

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Speaker 1: where you feel, okay, we can work through some of

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Speaker 1: these issues. We can. You know, we draft this guy.

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Speaker 1: We want this to work. This new general manager do

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Speaker 1: head coaches they don't care about Kyler Murray. They didn't

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Speaker 1: draft Kyler Murray. Right, They're gonna track you rid of

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Speaker 1: him as soon as positive as contract is very hard

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Speaker 1: to get rid of. Who trades family. There's many reasons

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Speaker 1: why it's it probably is very hard to get out

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Speaker 1: of this contract next year. But I don't think they

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Speaker 1: want him there.

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Speaker 3: I'm with you right there. You know You're right, because

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Speaker 3: I think when you draft the player, you have the

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Speaker 3: emotional tie to the guy. Plus if you get rid

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Speaker 3: of him, it's like a failure on you because you

681
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Speaker 3: drafted him. These guys come in, they have no attachment

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Speaker 3: to Kyler Murray. He's gone.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely Yes.

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Speaker 3: Jeff Schwartz, Andy Furman, Fox Sports Sunday and Fox Sports Radio,

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Speaker 3: a pro and an author. It's his time. Eat my

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Speaker 3: Schwartz is next, eat my Schwartz. Right around the bend,

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Speaker 3: that is Jeff Schwartz. I'm Andy Fermawi. Are Fox Sports

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Speaker 3: Sonny and Fox Sports ready alive from the tairaq dot

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Speaker 3: com studients, Schwartze, Are you ready? Yes, all right, it's

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Speaker 3: time to eat my Schwartz. Now here we go. Eight

691
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Speaker 3: years you played in the National Football League. You have

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Speaker 3: tied to travel from city to city. We'd like to

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Speaker 3: know your best sports cities and why.

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Speaker 1: Oh geez, well, I guess the best way to put

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Speaker 1: this is like, don't you know, we don't like go

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Speaker 1: about the city. We just like go to the hotel

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Speaker 1: and go play football and leave. So I'll give you

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Speaker 1: I'll give you my favorite stadium. How about that? Because

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Speaker 1: that's kind of so Seattle is the loudest, in my opinion,

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Speaker 1: in all the NFL. I know it makes Chiefs fans

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Speaker 1: angry when I say that, I believe Kansas City has

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Speaker 1: the record for most highest tescibles in a game. I

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Speaker 1: was actually at a game. I was there in twenty

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Speaker 1: thirteen when the Chiefs set the original record for loudest stadium. Okay,

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Speaker 1: And the way they do it is they have a

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Speaker 1: Guinness Book of World Records guy. He stands with like

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Speaker 1: a meter that measures the noise. And when we broke

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Speaker 1: the record, originally it was at the end of a blowout.

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Speaker 1: They had everyone. They told everyone to go like in

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Speaker 1: a corner of the stadium, in the lower corner and

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Speaker 1: cheer like at the same time. It was such bs.

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Speaker 1: We broke it at the end of a game with

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Speaker 1: half a stadium, okay, like it was it was. It was,

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Speaker 1: the game was over, no one was there anymore. And

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Speaker 1: I've always contended what you need to do is have

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Speaker 1: the have have the Guinness Book of World Records guy,

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Speaker 1: come out to midfield on a third and twelve in

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Speaker 1: the third corner of a close game and measure how

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Speaker 1: loud it is at that moment of the game. Because

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Speaker 1: that's how we play, right. We don't play with a

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Speaker 1: meter in the corner of the end zone. You tell

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Speaker 1: everyone to cheer. We play with the ball on the

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Speaker 1: football field. To me, Seattle's the loudest. What makes them

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Speaker 1: the loudest is they cheer the entire game. First down,

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Speaker 1: second down, third down. It does not stop. It's like

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Speaker 1: an avalanche. And noise, man, it is so freaking loud.

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Speaker 3: It's a real noise. Or that a pipe in it's

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Speaker 3: real noise.

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Speaker 1: You know, Oregon, I played an organ obviously, same situation,

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Speaker 1: same sort of fans in the Pacific Northwest. Look it

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Speaker 1: is and people getting me, well, it's stadium design, you know. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so so what? Okay? So what My other stadium that

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Speaker 1: I think is was fun to play and when it

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Speaker 1: was rocky was was New Orleans. Man, New Orleans gets loud.

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Speaker 1: It is a fun place to play when it when

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Speaker 1: when everyone's looped up a little bit, you know, you

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Speaker 1: got some alcohol, and then it is rock I actually

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Speaker 1: liked that. I love the city as well. I spent

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Speaker 1: a lot of time their last spring, and I ate

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Speaker 1: all the food, the gumbo, the Benet's. I learn how

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Speaker 1: to make both gumbo and benyet it was Oh my god,

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Speaker 1: I just like that city. It's it's it's fantastic and

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Speaker 1: so New Orleans to me. You know, I I liked

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Speaker 1: Lambo as far as how cool it is just to

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Speaker 1: say you played in Lambo. That it's not loud or anything,

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Speaker 1: but like I put a playoff game in Lambo once,

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Speaker 1: how cool is that? It was a fun place to play?

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Speaker 1: You know, it's kind of those are my favorite stadiums

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Speaker 1: to play in.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Well, speaking of cities and stadiums, why has the

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Speaker 3: city of Oakland been such a failure only and not

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Speaker 3: only in football, but in baseball as well as San

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Speaker 3: Diego failure of football?

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Speaker 1: I mean the Oakland also lost the Warriors to San Francisco. Right,

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Speaker 1: you know, there's there's public money that has to typically

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Speaker 1: be in play here, even though the a's owner is

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Speaker 1: like a bazilion jillionaire. You know, there's public, public funds

758
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Speaker 1: and and support from the public has to happen, and

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Speaker 1: Oakland doesn't want to do it, and so they've lost

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Speaker 1: their sports teams. It's that simple. Now you might disagree,

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Speaker 1: and I certainly like you know, again, I live in Charlot.

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Speaker 1: The Panthers owner is worth billions of dollars. He wants

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Speaker 1: a new stadium. He's gonna asked for public money, which

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Speaker 1: I think is bs like Bill Joan freaking stadium. You

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Speaker 1: know in Los Angeles, Stan Kronkey, the Amson are Bill's

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Speaker 1: own stadium. Good for you, buddy, Like you have the

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Speaker 1: money Bill Jones freaking stadium. So I think that, you know,

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Speaker 1: the Oakland's like, yeah, we're just we're not We're not

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Speaker 1: paying for sports stadiums, and it's the right to do so,

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Speaker 1: it just is it just looks bad when you lose

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Speaker 1: all your teams, you know in the city that's struggles

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Speaker 1: at time, and now you're your sports franchises are gone.

773
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Speaker 1: And that place focus the Oakon Closseum was a was

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Speaker 1: as big of a dump as you could find. There

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Speaker 1: were high school stadiums that had better at facilities than

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Speaker 1: the Oakan clostseeaum, that place was bad. It had to go.

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Speaker 1: And you see now obviously there's like a thousand A's

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Speaker 1: fans in every game.

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Speaker 3: It's sad it really.

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Speaker 1: He's also like, what ten and forty three? So ten Andy,

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Speaker 1: there're ten and forty three. How is that possible?

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Speaker 3: You could get ten guys you could get nine players

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Speaker 3: or eight players in a picture out of the telephone

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Speaker 3: book Inland.

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Speaker 1: Ten and forty four. Their run differential is minus one

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Speaker 1: hundred and ninety. The next closest the Royals at minus

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Speaker 1: seventy seven, came out.

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Speaker 3: Being a part of that team. Think about that. I

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Speaker 3: mean it.

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Speaker 1: It feels like the movie Major League, Like the owners

791
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:11,440
Speaker 1: are trying to be so bad that it forces like

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00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:15,360
Speaker 1: the hand of the city and MLB to be like, okay, fine,

793
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Speaker 1: just leave. It feels a Major League without obviously the

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Speaker 1: good part of them winning. So that's also sad.

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Speaker 3: No one's coming to the game. No one wants to

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Speaker 3: watch us play, and then we just go through the motion.

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Speaker 1: Who wants to go o can Cosseum first of all,

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Speaker 1: and then when your team stinks, you're not going there either.

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Speaker 3: Crazy, It really is. I just it's it's unbelievable that

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Speaker 3: it's Major League Baseball and they can't get three thousand

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Speaker 3: people into a ballgame. But you know what, will they

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Speaker 3: draw up better in Vegas? I think they will run on.

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Speaker 1: The strip if you win to winning helps.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it really does. But you know, it's a lot

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Speaker 3: of money to go to a game right now, and

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00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:54,320
Speaker 3: people don't want to go if people are not winning,

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Speaker 3: that's what it's all about, all right, Hey, it was

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Speaker 3: all about him. That's next right here on Fox Sports.

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Speaker 3: We will see him again. Yes, we'll get to that

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Speaker 3: in just about a minute. This is Fox Sports Sunday

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Speaker 3: how are you.

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Speaker 1: I'm good, glad to be here.

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Speaker 6: Man.

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Speaker 1: Another another Sunday that we cos my fast. It's like,

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Speaker 1: oh it's Sunday again. Yes, yes, yes, yeah. No. No

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Speaker 1: PJA Championship, no Michael Blocks talk about.

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Speaker 3: Today, but we got the NBA. Let's just follow up

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Speaker 3: here on this Boston Celtic one O four, one O

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Speaker 3: three thriller over Miami last night and they have a

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Speaker 3: seventh game tomorrow night in Boston. Derek White comes flying

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Speaker 3: in from the week's side tips in a misshot from

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Speaker 3: Marcus Smart at the buzzer to win it for the

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Speaker 3: Celtics to keep this season alive, and Derek White's father,

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Speaker 3: Richard tweeted the shot was the point guard's first ever

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Speaker 3: game winner. Can you imagine that? Talk about fate? Talk

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Speaker 3: about fate? Huh right place right there?

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Speaker 1: This is why this is why we talk about role players,

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Speaker 1: right because and and they're kind of they're they're obviously

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Speaker 1: they're they're kind of function on a team. And why

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Speaker 1: superstars are so important. Right, this is Derek White an

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Speaker 1: NBA player, right, presumably the best player in high school, right,

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Speaker 1: presumably one of the better players in college basketball for

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Speaker 1: a season or for seasons, like presumably all those things

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Speaker 1: are true, right, Like like you don't really make it

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Speaker 1: to the NBA and there starter and contributor unless you're

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Speaker 1: you're pretty freaking good. Right, never made a game winning

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Speaker 1: shot in his in his life till now.

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Speaker 3: Something else?

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Speaker 1: Never right, And this is why again you rely on

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Speaker 1: the Jason Tatums, because those are the guys that we

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Speaker 1: take those shots in in in you know, I'm sure

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Speaker 1: he had a duke, he had a game winner duke.

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Speaker 1: I think he did right one time, he said game

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Speaker 1: wheers before in the NBA, because those guys take those

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Speaker 1: shots in the end. It's the big dogs and what

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Speaker 1: you get from your role players. You know, again, if

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Speaker 1: you have a guy who average twelve points a game,

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Speaker 1: you expect that. But that's all you expect, right and

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Speaker 1: every now and then you might get a big game

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Speaker 1: for them. You might get a Derek White tip in

858
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Speaker 1: to win the game, but that's not expected, right. And

859
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 1: that's the difference between all the times NBA winning and losing,

860
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 1: is your role players excelling. But that's why there's so

861
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:32,400
Speaker 1: much attention put to the way Tatum has played in

862
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:34,759
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter, all the way Tom Butler just didn't

863
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 1: play well last night, because those those are the guys

864
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 1: in the end that you rely on to actually functionally

865
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:46,919
Speaker 1: win or lose you a game. You know, that last

866
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 1: shot was by Marcus smart I, don't you know again,

867
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:53,439
Speaker 1: he's the third option because they often will double team

868
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:56,319
Speaker 1: Tatum and Brown in those situations. But you know, he's

869
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:58,239
Speaker 1: a guy that you know, he's a role player, but

870
00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 1: maybe a little bit more than that. For Boston, you

871
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 1: need those guys to make, you know, to hit those shots.

872
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:09,360
Speaker 1: Those those big time players to win games. And you

873
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:11,799
Speaker 1: can't rely on the Derek Whites to have tippins at

874
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:13,239
Speaker 1: the end to win. Right.

875
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 3: But in the same token, did role players have come

876
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 3: alive for Boston. You took about smart, you talk about White,

877
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 3: It took about even the Robin Williams, the third ten

878
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:24,960
Speaker 3: points and seven boards off the bench. But the role

879
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 3: players in Miami, Duncan Robinson, you know, two open threes

880
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:31,399
Speaker 3: down the stretch at the end of the ball game.

881
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 3: One was an air ball. Okay, Strew's ten points. I mean,

882
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:36,880
Speaker 3: you got to get more out of these guys. Certainly

883
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:39,879
Speaker 3: you expect more from your guys like Butler Adebayo, who

884
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:42,719
Speaker 3: together scored thirty five points. They said like nine to

885
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:44,759
Speaker 3: thirty seven from the field. You got to get more

886
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 3: from those guys.

887
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:49,640
Speaker 1: Yes, And that was a game just box score. Look

888
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:53,319
Speaker 1: at the box score. Miami had seven more threes than

889
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 1: did the Celtics. They had six less turnovers, they rebounded

890
00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:00,839
Speaker 1: the same. It's a game where you just look at

891
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:06,319
Speaker 1: those things, threes, turnovers, and rebounds, and you would think

892
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:09,439
Speaker 1: Miami has won this game by ten. Yeah, you mentioned

893
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 1: Butler at twenty four points. I think he had eleven

894
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:12,920
Speaker 1: fourth quarter points. He might have had the last eleven

895
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:17,920
Speaker 1: points for the Heat, but he was two for sixteen

896
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 1: to two for seventeen shooting. At one point, he had

897
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 1: that offensive foul which I didn't really agree with, like

898
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:26,440
Speaker 1: he's just going to shoot the ball like the guys

899
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 1: supposed to do, not make contact with I think it

900
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:32,279
Speaker 1: was even Derek White who hid in the face, but

901
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:36,319
Speaker 1: he did not play well, and even then I got

902
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 1: by arguement that he should have won this game. They're

903
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:42,240
Speaker 1: going back to Boston now where their role players typically

904
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:44,320
Speaker 1: Dugan Robinson's not gonna shoot as well. It just doesn't

905
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:46,759
Speaker 1: happen like this. It's up to Butler. It's up to

906
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:50,799
Speaker 1: Butler to win this game for the Heat, and we'll

907
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 1: see if he can do it Monday night.

908
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:55,319
Speaker 3: It's unbelievable, it really is. You know, I want to

909
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:58,440
Speaker 3: move on and from this series because there's a bigger

910
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:01,440
Speaker 3: story that is really taken the headlines, which I can't believe.

911
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 3: But again, this gentleman has a tendency to kind of

912
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:07,879
Speaker 3: create the media in his own terms. And I'm talking

913
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 3: about Lebron James. Okay, the Lakers lose to Denver, and

914
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 3: I guess the story should have been what happened to

915
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:18,320
Speaker 3: the Lakers, what about Denver and maybe the Lakers' future,

916
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 3: But the story all came out about Lebron James. Will

917
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:24,760
Speaker 3: he return next year? He says he wants to ponder

918
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:27,840
Speaker 3: that and think about returning. This guy's a freaking genius,

919
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:30,440
Speaker 3: he really is. Because there was no talk about the

920
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:33,280
Speaker 3: collapse against Denver, there was no talk about the season,

921
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 3: but it all revolved about him and will he return

922
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:38,839
Speaker 3: if you were to ask me, and I'm not really

923
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 3: a big wagering guy, but if you ask me, I

924
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:43,400
Speaker 3: think he'll be back next year for season twenty.

925
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:47,480
Speaker 1: One, he absolutely will be back. You look, Lebron is

926
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 1: obviously a master at kind of keeping himself, I think

927
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:52,880
Speaker 1: in the public eye. But I think it's a I

928
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 1: think though, in that moment, his comments make a lot

929
00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 1: of sense, right, Okay, So any he's just finished, You're

930
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 1: twenty all right, he's thirty eight years old, he's off

931
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:08,800
Speaker 1: a forty ten to nine game four, like he couldn't

932
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 1: do anymore than he did. And I understand the thought

933
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 1: of like, yeah, I don't know if I want to

934
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 1: do this anymore in that moment, right, like I just don't.

935
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 1: I haven't thought about next year yet. I'm tired, my

936
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 1: foot hurts, I'm not getting the health of Anthony Davis

937
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 1: I expected. I'm not sure I want to carry a

938
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:30,920
Speaker 1: team next year, and so I'm contemplating just shutting it down.

939
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:32,799
Speaker 1: A lot of athletes feel that way at the end

940
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:36,400
Speaker 1: of seasons. Right. Let's just listened to Jason Kelcey on

941
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 1: a podcast at the Eagles Center talking about losing the

942
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 1: Super Bowl and kind of feeling the same way, like

943
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 1: you're just you're so dejected, your body's beat up, like

944
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:49,000
Speaker 1: you think about retirement in those moments. So I think

945
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:53,319
Speaker 1: it's a very honest reaction from Lebron. However, he kind

946
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:55,439
Speaker 1: of brought it up himself like she did.

947
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:57,799
Speaker 3: Like, but they didn't ask him about that. They asked

948
00:46:57,840 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 3: him about this series.

949
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:00,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, well they I think they did ask him, but

950
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:02,960
Speaker 1: he made it a much longer answer than than the

951
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 1: question that was asked, and that was by design. I think,

952
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:12,440
Speaker 1: to let the Lakers know that you need to put

953
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:14,280
Speaker 1: a team around him where he doesn't want to retire.

954
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 1: And I don't know what that answer is, but I

955
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 1: know people float out trades for cut players and bring

956
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:23,320
Speaker 1: in a third option behind behind Davis. I don't know

957
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:24,759
Speaker 1: if that the money to do that, and I know

958
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 1: Kyrie has been kind of floated as maybe that guy.

959
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:30,560
Speaker 1: They can't afford Kyrie unless he takes less of money,

960
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:33,359
Speaker 1: They're gonna resent Austin Reaves. I would imagine, like it's

961
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 1: not a playoff team, it's not a championship team. Now,

962
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 1: they can maybe make it that way. But I think

963
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 1: Lebron more than anything else. He's in year he'd be

964
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:44,840
Speaker 1: in year twenty one, an amazing feed. But he needs

965
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:48,719
Speaker 1: Anthony Davis or he needs his Scottie Pippott, right. He

966
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 1: needs like someone to take over a game if he's

967
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 1: not going to do it, he need He's just Dwayne

968
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 1: Wade right, who we had in Miami. He needs someone

969
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 1: he had Kyrie in Cleveland, right, Kyrie hit that the game,

970
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 1: the game winning shot in Game seven. He needs that

971
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:09,360
Speaker 1: guy in the Lakers' supposed to be Anthony Davis, but

972
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:12,480
Speaker 1: it can't be. He's he's too unpredictable. He's two up

973
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:14,759
Speaker 1: and down. He can't stay on. They stayed healthy for

974
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 1: this playoff series. But when you score thirty one points

975
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 1: in the first half, as Lebron, did, you expect Davis

976
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:23,759
Speaker 1: to pick up the rest of the slack. In game

977
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:26,839
Speaker 1: was a Game three, Jamal Murray had thirty we had

978
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 1: thirty points in the first half, right only had only

979
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:32,480
Speaker 1: had seventy eight points in the second half, but Joker

980
00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:35,839
Speaker 1: had fifteen fourth quarter points. That's how it should be, right.

981
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:40,240
Speaker 1: You compliment each other. Lebron is one. He's telling the Lakers.

982
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:44,759
Speaker 1: I need that compliment, whether it's a d or someone else.

983
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:48,160
Speaker 1: I need someone to pick up the slack. I'm scoring

984
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:50,279
Speaker 1: thirty one points in the first half as a thirty

985
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:53,799
Speaker 1: eight year old an elimination game. I need someone else

986
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:55,680
Speaker 1: to pick up the slack for me. And I think

987
00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:57,520
Speaker 1: this is a cry for help for the Lakers like

988
00:48:57,640 --> 00:48:57,960
Speaker 1: I and.

989
00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:00,279
Speaker 3: That brings his best in the Miami Heap because Jimmy

990
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:02,800
Speaker 3: Butler needs the same thing because how To Bao is

991
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:05,120
Speaker 3: not doing much to help Jimmy Butler correct.

992
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 1: And you often see again that you know, the NBA

993
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:12,640
Speaker 1: champions typically have to at least two players that could

994
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:15,319
Speaker 1: get it, which is why think the Nuggets are gonna

995
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:19,080
Speaker 1: win with Jamal Murray and Joker. You need to have

996
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 1: two of those guys for the most part, and they can.

997
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:24,919
Speaker 1: They can give you that twenty five to thirty points

998
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:28,400
Speaker 1: a game and be counted on to make big plays.

999
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:33,759
Speaker 1: And when a d and Lebron, when when Ad is

1000
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:36,440
Speaker 1: doing it, when he is playing the level that he

1001
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 1: can likes are really hard to beat. When he plays well,

1002
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 1: you just can't. You can't rely on that. That's the problem.

1003
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:42,719
Speaker 1: You can't rely on him being there.

1004
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:44,719
Speaker 3: So you're telling me, I just heard you say that.

1005
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:46,600
Speaker 3: You know that's why Denver's gonna win. So you think

1006
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:49,600
Speaker 3: that Denver is a better team than Boston right now

1007
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:52,319
Speaker 3: because I'm assuming Boston's gonna be playing Denver for the title. See.

1008
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 3: I just think that Boston's deeper, they have a better bench,

1009
00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:57,760
Speaker 3: and I think that, yes, Joker's great, and Joker should

1010
00:49:57,760 --> 00:49:59,840
Speaker 3: have been the MVP of the league over Joel mb

1011
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:02,800
Speaker 3: but he when he gives you an offense, he loses

1012
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:05,719
Speaker 3: on defense. And I think that Boston Celtis will exploit that.

1013
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 1: I I don't. I don't think so. I I think

1014
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 1: the way Denver, Denver is never out of games because

1015
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:18,320
Speaker 1: their offense just flows so well. They have yet to

1016
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:23,840
Speaker 1: lose a home playoff game. I I just think Boston

1017
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:27,479
Speaker 1: with the coaching mismatch again, we're gonna have here because

1018
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:31,320
Speaker 1: that seems to always happen with Boston. This series is

1019
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:33,839
Speaker 1: gonna be in Denver, right, Denver will Actually Boston has

1020
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 1: the better record, right, so this would Boston host the

1021
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:37,520
Speaker 1: first game is out of this would work.

1022
00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:42,000
Speaker 3: It goes by record, right, record, Boston had the second

1023
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:44,200
Speaker 3: best record in the league. I think Boston would get

1024
00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:47,480
Speaker 3: the seventh game. Again, seven game, So I.

1025
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:52,840
Speaker 1: I just think Denver is kind of destined. Most often,

1026
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:55,520
Speaker 1: a couple of things have to be true to win

1027
00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:59,799
Speaker 1: a championship, most often, not all the time. Health to okay,

1028
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:04,680
Speaker 1: says Side that your superstar has to be over twenty

1029
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 1: seven years old for the most part championships again, not

1030
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:13,120
Speaker 1: every year, but for the most part, your best player

1031
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:15,960
Speaker 1: has to have a little bit of age to them, right.

1032
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:19,680
Speaker 1: That just it's just sort of look at the history

1033
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:23,760
Speaker 1: of the game. To win a championship, your best players

1034
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:26,720
Speaker 1: typically over twenty seven years old. That's why Jason Tatum

1035
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:30,600
Speaker 1: at twenty five, he's only twenty five. I know we're

1036
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:32,440
Speaker 1: hard on him, but you got kind of them a

1037
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:36,200
Speaker 1: little bit of slacksim. It's only twenty five, right A

1038
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:39,240
Speaker 1: jokers twenty eight years old? Like he's kind of above

1039
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:42,719
Speaker 1: that mark of twenty seven years old. Look at when

1040
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:44,919
Speaker 1: the Warriors first one, I think Steph Curry was twenty seven.

1041
00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:49,360
Speaker 1: He needs some years under your belt to win, and

1042
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 1: you need most often again not all the time, you

1043
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:55,440
Speaker 1: kind of need those two superstars, right, those two guys

1044
00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:59,120
Speaker 1: every game you can count on. Denver has those guys.

1045
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:03,040
Speaker 1: They have they have Joker, to have Murray, who is

1046
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 1: who are Boston's every game? I know Tatum is supposed

1047
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:07,839
Speaker 1: to be one of them. I mean, for the most part,

1048
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:08,040
Speaker 1: he is.

1049
00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:12,080
Speaker 3: I say Tatum and Brown. Brown's Brown is to me

1050
00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:15,840
Speaker 3: is a game's consistent radic and I and I.

1051
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:21,200
Speaker 1: Know every game I'm getting Murray and Joker playing, and

1052
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:23,840
Speaker 1: really it doesn't opens up three as opportunities for Reporter

1053
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:26,480
Speaker 1: and Casey p Now those guys have to make those shots.

1054
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:31,840
Speaker 1: Of course, I Boston, I get there. They're they're deeper

1055
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:37,640
Speaker 1: roster wise, but they don't have really that that typical

1056
00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 1: formula that wins championships, which again is the age of Yeah.

1057
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:45,840
Speaker 3: And there's also the fact, and maybe I'm just dreaming

1058
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:48,160
Speaker 3: when I say this that if they win, I do

1059
00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:50,879
Speaker 3: believe they'll win tomorrow night. That momentum and I don't

1060
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:52,239
Speaker 3: know how big of a deal it is because I

1061
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:53,880
Speaker 3: had never been there, done that, I never played in

1062
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:57,120
Speaker 3: games like that. But the momentum fact is saying that

1063
00:52:57,560 --> 00:53:01,279
Speaker 3: we conquered this down three to roll over Denver right now,

1064
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:03,600
Speaker 3: and the fact that Denver has not played in a while.

1065
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 3: The layoff that could hurt.

1066
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:09,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, that could hurt. But we've seen historically off of

1067
00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:13,320
Speaker 1: game seven in game one that team, that team loses

1068
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:15,880
Speaker 1: a lot. It's just it's a you know, the two

1069
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Speaker 1: days rest, and it's hard at that. I think of

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Speaker 3: I just I think it's gonna be a great finals.

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Speaker 3: I really do. And you know what, initially, when we

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Speaker 3: I said to myself, you know what, it's great because

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Speaker 3: going to be like towards the end of June. They

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00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:52,800
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Speaker 3: because as soon as it's over, we're going to roll

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's it's it's like it's football. So I

1086
00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:02,279
Speaker 1: got the itch back this week better. I started talking

1087
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Speaker 1: about wind totals on my PAC twelve shows, like a

1088
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Speaker 1: getting the kind of that summer schedule of college softball,

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Speaker 1: college baseball, little little league time. Like we're getting like

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00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:17,399
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00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:21,120
Speaker 1: sort of means college football's coming up soon. It'll be

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Speaker 1: here before we know it. Man, I can't wait.

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Speaker 3: How did he even get hired? We'll get to that

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Speaker 3: in just about a minute. About twenty two minutes past

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Speaker 3: Here's Jeff Schwartz. I'm Andy Freeman. And by the way,

1126
00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:53,840
Speaker 3: Jeff Schwartz, you are the PAC twelve expert, and we

1127
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:56,680
Speaker 3: talked about it kind of a briefly a week ago.

1128
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Speaker 3: But this guy that we mentioned is to me the

1129
00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:02,520
Speaker 3: ultimate creep, and he worked in Cincinnati. I really had

1130
00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:04,600
Speaker 3: no idea what kind of a person he was. Because

1131
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:08,480
Speaker 3: now there's new details regarding the pattern of concerning behavior

1132
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:11,879
Speaker 3: former USC Athletic thread that Mike Bone came to light

1133
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:14,800
Speaker 3: after resigned back on the twenty first of May, citing

1134
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:16,759
Speaker 3: the I guess he wanted to spend more time with

1135
00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:19,240
Speaker 3: his family, which is a lot of bull. He created

1136
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:23,960
Speaker 3: a toxic work environment, I claim at USC and at Cincinnati.

1137
00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:25,759
Speaker 3: We'll get to that in a second book. What have

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Speaker 3: you heard of late.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean, look, I'm not an investigative reporter. I

1140
00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:32,480
Speaker 1: rely on the work that Ryan Carchi's done at LA

1141
00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:35,680
Speaker 1: times and the fine folks in the Athletic who have

1142
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:38,440
Speaker 1: who put together a lot of the reporting as well

1143
00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:43,480
Speaker 1: in the story, and obviously what the toxic work environment

1144
00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:48,480
Speaker 1: at USC, the comments made the unwonted kind of physical

1145
00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:53,280
Speaker 1: touching at times that was inappropriate, not good right. Obviously,

1146
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:55,600
Speaker 1: it's why he had to resign. Or was forced out,

1147
00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:58,160
Speaker 1: whatever will you do? I never, but I never believe

1148
00:56:58,280 --> 00:57:02,440
Speaker 1: the health issues that was related was in his original statement,

1149
00:57:02,520 --> 00:57:05,040
Speaker 1: because again I cover the conference for a living. There

1150
00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:08,400
Speaker 1: was no there was no sign at all that he

1151
00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:10,200
Speaker 1: had health issues. We would have known about it. He

1152
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:11,839
Speaker 1: would have said something about it if it was something

1153
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:14,400
Speaker 1: that kept away from the shot. Plus he orchestrated us.

1154
00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:16,200
Speaker 1: He to the Big ten. He will just leave on

1155
00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:17,800
Speaker 1: his own, right, he would, even if he's sick, he

1156
00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:19,640
Speaker 1: would probably he would like to probably see that out right.

1157
00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:22,800
Speaker 1: He's the one who helped do that. To me. The

1158
00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:28,480
Speaker 1: real concern is that the reporting has unveiled that these

1159
00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:32,360
Speaker 1: concerns were there at this time. It's Cincinnati, right, whether

1160
00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:34,040
Speaker 1: there was a there was a Title nine complaint that

1161
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Speaker 1: ended up being withdrawn, Those comments from people saying I

1162
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Speaker 1: can't believe he got hired at QSC like that, just

1163
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:48,280
Speaker 1: these issues were known a Cincinnati and USC hired a

1164
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Speaker 1: search firm to help them find Mike Boone, And people

1165
00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:54,840
Speaker 1: say the search firm gives them discretion, Right, that's why

1166
00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:56,440
Speaker 1: you hire a search firm. He gives you a discretion

1167
00:57:56,560 --> 00:57:59,720
Speaker 1: because you know us. He is not physically reaching out

1168
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:01,960
Speaker 1: to bone it's the it's the search firm, and it

1169
00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:06,720
Speaker 1: gives you a little bit of cover. However, a search

1170
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Speaker 1: firm not to do background check, search firm not checking references,

1171
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Speaker 1: search firm not going deep on on on the background

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Speaker 1: of an individual who they're going to hire at USC.

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Speaker 1: How the scandal I would call it scandal, whatever word

1174
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Speaker 1: you want to use of this is why did USC

1175
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Speaker 1: hire mic Bone with known with known issues about toxic

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Speaker 1: work environment. It's Cincinnati.

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Speaker 3: Well, here's the situation and look, and I knew nothing

1178
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Speaker 3: about this until he left Cincinnati. It was very hush hush,

1179
00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:39,320
Speaker 3: but they claimed that the ten days before Bone was

1180
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Speaker 3: introduced as the athletic there tod USC. That was back

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Speaker 3: on October the twenty ninth, and twenty nineteen. The University

1182
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Speaker 3: of Cincinnati's OVA is an Equal Opportunity and Access Office

1183
00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:50,959
Speaker 3: of Gender Equity and Inclusion had two separate investigations about

1184
00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:52,960
Speaker 3: his leadership. But I got to believe they kept that

1185
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Speaker 3: quiet so it could get rid of him and let

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Speaker 3: him go to USC.

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Speaker 1: Well, yes, and no, I I just think that there's

1188
00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:08,160
Speaker 1: no way that Well, if USC did not know about

1189
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Speaker 1: any of these allegations or workplace environment issues, it's any

1190
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Speaker 1: They did a terrible job of a background check.

1191
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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 1: USC has had a lot of trouble on campus, whether

1193
00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:25,200
Speaker 1: with their own athletic department, the Varsity Blues scandal, some

1194
00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:27,560
Speaker 1: of the other issues they've had with athletic directors just

1195
00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:31,240
Speaker 1: not being good at their job. And then obviously on

1196
00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:36,480
Speaker 1: campus there was really terrible things happening in the medical school.

1197
00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:39,160
Speaker 1: They were sued and had to had to owe a

1198
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Speaker 1: big sum of money there. People were fired and people

1199
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Speaker 1: went to jail, Like is they shout All things that

1200
00:59:44,280 --> 00:59:47,400
Speaker 1: happened there were terrible, but the end result was what

1201
00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:49,960
Speaker 1: was going to happen, So that there's there's issues all

1202
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:53,760
Speaker 1: around campus and you hire athletic director with known issues

1203
00:59:53,880 --> 00:59:59,480
Speaker 1: like what are we doing? USC? Like you just you're

1204
00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:01,479
Speaker 1: supposed to be better than this when you hire someone,

1205
01:00:01,560 --> 01:00:04,680
Speaker 1: help you hire someone right, And again for them not

1206
01:00:04,800 --> 01:00:06,840
Speaker 1: to know any of these issues, I think to me

1207
01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:09,320
Speaker 1: is bs, I don't believe any of it that they

1208
01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:12,200
Speaker 1: didn't know beforehand, and now they have to hire someone

1209
01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:15,160
Speaker 1: to take over hopefully, and they went away. You know,

1210
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Speaker 1: for so many years USC has hired the alum right,

1211
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Speaker 1: Lynn Swan and Mike Garrett was fine, I think, but

1212
01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:24,880
Speaker 1: Mike Garrett, Lynn Swan, Pat Hayden. They went outside the tree.

1213
01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:26,959
Speaker 1: They went outside the US tree to hire Mike Bone,

1214
01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:29,920
Speaker 1: someone that was well respected in the industry. He just

1215
01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:33,640
Speaker 1: went out like athletic director of the year. But even

1216
01:00:33,720 --> 01:00:37,240
Speaker 1: besides some of the toxic workplace environment things, he didn't

1217
01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:42,000
Speaker 1: go to sporting events. USC USC had five Olympic Sport

1218
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Speaker 1: championships in the last year. He didn't attend one of

1219
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Speaker 1: those championships. I feel like as an athletic yeah, that's

1220
01:00:47,480 --> 01:00:50,120
Speaker 1: in the article. As an athletic director, that'd be the

1221
01:00:50,200 --> 01:00:52,480
Speaker 1: fun part of the job, going to sporting events. He

1222
01:00:52,520 --> 01:00:55,800
Speaker 1: didn't go to sporting events. He didn't know coaches, he

1223
01:00:55,880 --> 01:00:59,080
Speaker 1: didn't attend meetings, like all these things that you would

1224
01:00:59,080 --> 01:01:02,000
Speaker 1: expect athletic director to do at that high level. USC

1225
01:01:02,360 --> 01:01:04,120
Speaker 1: he didn't do any of them, and so it was

1226
01:01:04,160 --> 01:01:08,280
Speaker 1: a bad hire. But look, if USC hired Mike Bone

1227
01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:12,200
Speaker 1: to move them to the Big Ten, which is certainly

1228
01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:16,080
Speaker 1: plausible because their president has talked about this idea of

1229
01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:17,200
Speaker 1: moving conference from me, he.

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Speaker 3: Hired a pretty good football coach too.

1231
01:01:18,840 --> 01:01:21,160
Speaker 1: He did hired Lincoln Riley, hired a good basketball coach

1232
01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:26,000
Speaker 1: in lind but also two coaches left that were really

1233
01:01:26,040 --> 01:01:29,200
Speaker 1: good on his watch because lack of management, lack of

1234
01:01:29,640 --> 01:01:32,280
Speaker 1: attention to their needs. That one of them was their

1235
01:01:32,320 --> 01:01:35,240
Speaker 1: track and field coach and went to Georgia, who was

1236
01:01:35,320 --> 01:01:39,520
Speaker 1: really good on the women's side. And so it's to

1237
01:01:39,640 --> 01:01:43,360
Speaker 1: me again, the issue with the High to me is

1238
01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:46,320
Speaker 1: the hiring, Like why did you hire Mike Bone? Why

1239
01:01:46,360 --> 01:01:47,960
Speaker 1: do you not do a background check? Why do you

1240
01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:50,720
Speaker 1: not know these things were prevalent? And the pushback again

1241
01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:53,000
Speaker 1: is that the search firm is not going to go

1242
01:01:53,440 --> 01:01:57,120
Speaker 1: calling staffers on cin Santi's, you know, in their athletic department,

1243
01:01:57,160 --> 01:01:58,960
Speaker 1: asking them because then of course it leaks out that

1244
01:01:58,960 --> 01:02:02,960
Speaker 1: he's talking to USC. But again, like your job is,

1245
01:02:03,200 --> 01:02:06,480
Speaker 1: it's USC, you should know better when you're hiring a

1246
01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:07,240
Speaker 1: flight director.

1247
01:02:07,560 --> 01:02:09,280
Speaker 3: But I do know one person who's not shedding a

1248
01:02:09,360 --> 01:02:12,120
Speaker 3: tear about Mike Bone losing his job, and that's Mick Cronin,

1249
01:02:12,200 --> 01:02:15,320
Speaker 3: the coach of UCLA basketball. Because Mick Cronin was coach

1250
01:02:15,360 --> 01:02:17,240
Speaker 3: at Cincinnati, and it was very well known, and I

1251
01:02:17,320 --> 01:02:19,560
Speaker 3: know Mick fairly well and I got to know him

1252
01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:23,400
Speaker 3: pretty good. Buddies that Mick wanted a raise, Mick wanted

1253
01:02:23,560 --> 01:02:27,640
Speaker 3: a long term contract, Mick wanted some moneies invested in

1254
01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:30,480
Speaker 3: new locker rooms and repairs for the athletic for the

1255
01:02:30,520 --> 01:02:34,360
Speaker 3: basketball office, for basketball department, and Mike Bone said no, no, no,

1256
01:02:34,480 --> 01:02:36,920
Speaker 3: in every instance, and Mick packed up and left and

1257
01:02:37,040 --> 01:02:40,520
Speaker 3: he went to UCLA And ironically after that, Bone was

1258
01:02:40,600 --> 01:02:43,960
Speaker 3: going to uc USC down the street. So I don't

1259
01:02:43,960 --> 01:02:46,480
Speaker 3: think there's any love loss between Mick Cronan and then

1260
01:02:46,560 --> 01:02:47,440
Speaker 3: Bone losing his job.

1261
01:02:47,520 --> 01:02:54,800
Speaker 1: No, there's certainly not. So Yeah, USC again, a lot

1262
01:02:54,800 --> 01:02:59,200
Speaker 1: of scandal man all across campus. It needs to be

1263
01:02:59,280 --> 01:03:02,240
Speaker 1: cleaned up. And you know, the president's probably the president

1264
01:03:02,360 --> 01:03:05,960
Speaker 1: came in after most of the scandals wasn't really her doing,

1265
01:03:06,080 --> 01:03:09,320
Speaker 1: but it's got to be cleaned up. You need to

1266
01:03:09,440 --> 01:03:12,200
Speaker 1: hire the you're hiring now a flectic director who is

1267
01:03:12,320 --> 01:03:16,760
Speaker 1: going to have to guide you, you know, it's going

1268
01:03:16,800 --> 01:03:19,520
Speaker 1: to have to guide you into the Big ten. Like,

1269
01:03:19,960 --> 01:03:26,800
Speaker 1: there is a lot of moving parts here for newf

1270
01:03:26,840 --> 01:03:28,840
Speaker 1: LAC director at USC, and so I'm kind of curious

1271
01:03:30,040 --> 01:03:32,840
Speaker 1: what direction they go for this hire because of that. Again,

1272
01:03:32,880 --> 01:03:35,240
Speaker 1: they're moving to Big ten inmost of the year now,

1273
01:03:35,320 --> 01:03:38,400
Speaker 1: right August of twenty four, so they have to make

1274
01:03:38,480 --> 01:03:40,920
Speaker 1: that process smooth. The for your flect department. Who are

1275
01:03:40,920 --> 01:03:41,920
Speaker 1: you going to hire and help you do that?

1276
01:03:42,360 --> 01:03:44,160
Speaker 3: I know you're a big baseball fan, and I know

1277
01:03:44,280 --> 01:03:46,400
Speaker 3: you probably heard of Billy Hatcher, the baseball player player

1278
01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:49,400
Speaker 3: for the Cincinnati Reds. His lovely wife, Karen, is a

1279
01:03:49,440 --> 01:03:52,600
Speaker 3: senior associate athletic director at the University of Cincinnati and

1280
01:03:52,720 --> 01:03:56,360
Speaker 3: apparently Bond Mike Bond when he was at Cincinnati. You

1281
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Speaker 3: told Stephen Rosfeld, a white male employee and vice president

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01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:03,600
Speaker 3: development for the university's foundation, he said that Hatchet quote

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01:04:03,960 --> 01:04:07,880
Speaker 3: pulled the race card, pulled the race card, that hatchew

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Speaker 3: the hatchet was only successful in athletics because she's an

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Speaker 3: African American woman, and challenged her knowledge of the position.

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Speaker 3: According to a document, that is unbelievable in this day

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Speaker 3: and age. How freaking stupid could you be? Mike?

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01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:22,680
Speaker 1: Really?

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Speaker 3: Are you kidding? G Yeah, And I don't see him

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Speaker 3: getting hired anywhere else.

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Speaker 1: No, probably not for a while in this not in

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Speaker 1: this sector. And again like this is I think, I

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01:04:36,120 --> 01:04:38,320
Speaker 1: think there's no excuse for USC not knowing these things.

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Speaker 1: This is this is gonna be us. He's fifth AFLACT

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Speaker 1: director since twenty ten. Now, one of them was an

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01:04:44,800 --> 01:04:47,760
Speaker 1: interim one when they fired I believe it was Linn Swan,

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Speaker 1: but you know, USC, this is USC like like Organs

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01:04:53,560 --> 01:04:56,320
Speaker 1: had one FC director since twenty ten. Rob Molt's fantastic.

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Speaker 1: I believe in twenty ten ish maybe twenty twelve us

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01:05:00,360 --> 01:05:02,160
Speaker 1: he should have an electrictor for life like this is

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Speaker 1: a this is a crazy it's USC right. How could

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01:05:05,080 --> 01:05:06,280
Speaker 1: you not keep out leg director?

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Speaker 3: It's a top ten job. I would believe it would be.

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01:05:09,240 --> 01:05:11,360
Speaker 3: But uh, they better get it right this time. So

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01:05:11,480 --> 01:05:14,480
Speaker 3: we'll see. All right, he's Mike Mike Bone. I mean,

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01:05:14,520 --> 01:05:17,720
Speaker 3: who know man Bone? You know who probably end up

1307
01:05:17,720 --> 01:05:20,080
Speaker 3: being on TV doing some commentary or something.

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Speaker 1: You know him?

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01:05:22,160 --> 01:05:24,400
Speaker 3: I hope not. Really, he needs to go away. He

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01:05:24,440 --> 01:05:27,160
Speaker 3: needs to change his name, he really does. Jeff Schwartz,

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01:05:27,200 --> 01:05:30,280
Speaker 3: Andy Ferman, Fox Sports Sunday on Fox Sports Radio. By

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Speaker 3: the way, he's protecting someone he just couldn't stand. That's

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Speaker 3: coming up next right here on Fox Sports Sunday Live

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Speaker 3: from the Tyraq dot Com studios. But first, here's Kevin

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Speaker 3: Wyre with the update.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the talk of the country is in the NBA

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01:05:43,920 --> 01:05:48,280
Speaker 4: Eastern Conference Finals Game six on Saturday. When we say

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01:05:48,320 --> 01:05:50,320
Speaker 4: it came right down to the wire. I mean, we

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01:05:50,480 --> 01:05:52,120
Speaker 4: mean it absolutely literally.

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Speaker 2: This there's the height of crussure, the moment we'll be

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01:05:55,840 --> 01:05:57,360
Speaker 2: playing over and over and over again.

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Speaker 3: It's in the hands of Derek White.

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01:05:58,600 --> 01:05:59,000
Speaker 1: Here we go.

1324
01:06:00,520 --> 01:06:03,800
Speaker 4: And a smart smart turns faces three, gripped up.

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Speaker 2: It was tapped up and in.

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01:06:05,720 --> 01:06:07,160
Speaker 3: But it didn't come too late.

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Speaker 4: We don't know anything yet, Celtics Radio Network. Upon further review,

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01:06:13,480 --> 01:06:17,360
Speaker 4: Derek White tipped in the ball with just a split

1329
01:06:17,600 --> 01:06:20,280
Speaker 4: second to go, right before the backboard lit up and

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01:06:20,320 --> 01:06:24,080
Speaker 4: the buzzer sounded, giving the Celtics a one oh four

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01:06:24,080 --> 01:06:26,680
Speaker 4: to one oh three win against the Miami Heat, forcing

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Speaker 4: a game seven Monday evening in Boston. And other NBA news,

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01:06:32,680 --> 01:06:36,160
Speaker 4: the Milwaukee Bucks set to hire Raptors assistant Adrian Griffin,

1334
01:06:36,200 --> 01:06:40,920
Speaker 4: who himself is a former Milwaukee assistant coach in the NHL,

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01:06:41,080 --> 01:06:43,960
Speaker 4: there will be a Game six in the Western Conference Finals.

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01:06:44,080 --> 01:06:47,800
Speaker 4: Dallas has won their second straight game against the Golden Knights.

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01:06:47,840 --> 01:06:51,960
Speaker 4: They wonted four to two on Saturday, Game six Monday

1338
01:06:52,040 --> 01:06:54,840
Speaker 4: night in Dallas, and tonight's result means a Stanley Cup

1339
01:06:54,920 --> 01:06:58,640
Speaker 4: Final will not start until next Saturday, with Florida on

1340
01:06:59,120 --> 01:07:02,640
Speaker 4: the road. Sunday will be the Coca Cola six hundred

1341
01:07:02,680 --> 01:07:05,760
Speaker 4: and NASCAR that's set for six o'clock Eastern on Fox.

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Speaker 4: Practicing qualifying rained out on Saturday, however, the x Nity

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01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:15,560
Speaker 4: Race will be postponed until Monday. French Open begins on Sunday.

1344
01:07:15,680 --> 01:07:18,200
Speaker 4: One player who will not be participating is the guy

1345
01:07:18,320 --> 01:07:21,680
Speaker 4: probably most well known for playing in that tournament, Raphael

1346
01:07:21,720 --> 01:07:24,400
Speaker 4: and Na Doll. He has an injured hip and we'll

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01:07:24,480 --> 01:07:28,000
Speaker 4: miss this summer. Major League Baseball scores Dodgers beat the

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01:07:28,400 --> 01:07:31,560
Speaker 4: Rays six ' five, Phillies over the Braves two to one.

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01:07:31,720 --> 01:07:34,440
Speaker 4: Yankees outlast the Padres and ten innings three to two.

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01:07:34,880 --> 01:07:37,760
Speaker 4: The Rangers over the Baltimore Orioles five to three. The

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01:07:37,880 --> 01:07:42,200
Speaker 4: Twins outslugged the Blue Jays nine to seven. In the athletics,

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01:07:42,400 --> 01:07:44,280
Speaker 4: it has been a dreadful season for them, and it

1353
01:07:44,440 --> 01:07:47,480
Speaker 4: just keeps on getting more miserable. They've dross ten straight,

1354
01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:51,200
Speaker 4: losing six to three on Saturday to the Houston Astros.

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Speaker 3: Back to you guys, all right, thank you, Kevi Sena.

1356
01:07:53,280 --> 01:07:54,880
Speaker 3: Now I thinks have turned the round. We'll explain that

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01:07:54,920 --> 01:07:56,840
Speaker 3: in just about a minute, we have crossed a fifty

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Speaker 3: yard line. Whe We call Fox Sports Sunday on Fox

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Speaker 3: barrel betting at about eight nine minutes from now. And

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01:08:19,040 --> 01:08:23,080
Speaker 3: let's talk about teammates. Because I never played on a

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01:08:23,120 --> 01:08:25,000
Speaker 3: professional team, but you did, so you could tell me

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01:08:25,080 --> 01:08:27,920
Speaker 3: about that. Because the Denver Broncos gave right tackle Mike

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01:08:28,040 --> 01:08:30,679
Speaker 3: McGlinchey a five year, eighty seven and a half million

1369
01:08:30,760 --> 01:08:32,800
Speaker 3: dollar deal and now he's gonna have to protect his

1370
01:08:32,880 --> 01:08:35,439
Speaker 3: new quarterback, Russell Wilson. But he did admit that he

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01:08:35,520 --> 01:08:38,439
Speaker 3: couldn't stand Russell Wilson when they were both in the

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01:08:38,560 --> 01:08:41,960
Speaker 3: NFC West. Mike was with the forty nine ers and

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01:08:42,320 --> 01:08:44,720
Speaker 3: Wilson was with the Seattle Seahawks. So was there a

1374
01:08:44,840 --> 01:08:47,760
Speaker 3: time Maybe not you, Jeff Schwartz, but you've seen teammates

1375
01:08:48,120 --> 01:08:51,679
Speaker 3: that couldn't stand someone who basically came to their team

1376
01:08:51,720 --> 01:08:53,599
Speaker 3: and say, you know what, the guy's not that bad.

1377
01:08:54,000 --> 01:08:54,439
Speaker 3: Good guy.

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01:08:56,280 --> 01:09:00,519
Speaker 1: I missed this. This is very funny. Oh what you

1379
01:09:00,640 --> 01:09:07,559
Speaker 1: do for money? Right? Andy? I think around the NFL,

1380
01:09:08,720 --> 01:09:11,800
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know how many people that didn't

1381
01:09:11,800 --> 01:09:15,040
Speaker 1: play with Russell Wilson look at him in a positive light,

1382
01:09:15,240 --> 01:09:21,200
Speaker 1: especially after last year. He just does some corny, cringey

1383
01:09:21,280 --> 01:09:26,560
Speaker 1: things sometimes. I think as an offensive lineman too. The

1384
01:09:26,640 --> 01:09:28,439
Speaker 1: guy takes a lot of sacks. We'll see how much

1385
01:09:29,160 --> 01:09:32,519
Speaker 1: mgoche likes him by the end of the year. I know,

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01:09:32,840 --> 01:09:35,120
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't. I think there's I think people

1387
01:09:35,160 --> 01:09:38,479
Speaker 1: are misunderstood like I. Odell Beckham to me was a

1388
01:09:38,520 --> 01:09:40,240
Speaker 1: fabulous team. I was with him his first two year's

1389
01:09:40,280 --> 01:09:44,360
Speaker 1: NFL the Giants, great teammates, beloved the locker room, like

1390
01:09:44,479 --> 01:09:47,000
Speaker 1: no issues, works his butt off. Yet somehow he has

1391
01:09:47,040 --> 01:09:48,920
Speaker 1: a rap as a bad teammates from time and time.

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Speaker 1: I don't. I don't get that. But that wasn't a

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01:09:51,479 --> 01:09:53,479
Speaker 1: guy that I had any negative thoughts about. I mean,

1394
01:09:53,520 --> 01:09:55,600
Speaker 1: he was drafted in twenty fourteen when I first got there. Like,

1395
01:09:56,439 --> 01:10:00,800
Speaker 1: Odell's fantastic, So I'm I know a guy that I

1396
01:10:00,880 --> 01:10:03,320
Speaker 1: played with it I did not have positive feelings about.

1397
01:10:03,320 --> 01:10:06,080
Speaker 1: That's really funny. He admitted that. Wow. I don't even

1398
01:10:06,160 --> 01:10:08,679
Speaker 1: know why he admitted that. That's not a great start

1399
01:10:08,760 --> 01:10:09,599
Speaker 1: to the relationship there.

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Speaker 3: But I think he admitted it in respect that, not

1401
01:10:12,840 --> 01:10:14,559
Speaker 3: that he didn't like him as the person, like playing

1402
01:10:14,640 --> 01:10:16,519
Speaker 3: against him, because I think when he played for the

1403
01:10:16,560 --> 01:10:19,280
Speaker 3: forty nine ers, Derek was like four and seventeen old

1404
01:10:19,320 --> 01:10:22,479
Speaker 3: time against Russell Wilson. So maybe it made some sense that, yeah,

1405
01:10:22,520 --> 01:10:23,920
Speaker 3: I don't like this guy. Was every time I go

1406
01:10:24,040 --> 01:10:26,439
Speaker 3: against him, we're going to lose. And now he's going

1407
01:10:26,479 --> 01:10:29,479
Speaker 3: to be as protected. But again, last year, Russell Wilson,

1408
01:10:29,520 --> 01:10:32,120
Speaker 3: you mentioned it being sacked. He was an NFL high

1409
01:10:32,320 --> 01:10:35,000
Speaker 3: sacked fifty five times last year. Let's see if this

1410
01:10:35,120 --> 01:10:37,400
Speaker 3: guy could help that situation a little bit.

1411
01:10:37,840 --> 01:10:43,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, they paid mcglutchi a lot of money. I I mean,

1412
01:10:43,320 --> 01:10:47,519
Speaker 1: they're going to try to He said he couldn't stand

1413
01:10:47,600 --> 01:10:50,000
Speaker 1: him before. That sounds like a personal thing, not a

1414
01:10:50,040 --> 01:10:58,800
Speaker 1: football thing. So I just Russell Wilson to me, man,

1415
01:11:00,640 --> 01:11:02,360
Speaker 1: you said I couldn't stand Russell because of how many

1416
01:11:02,439 --> 01:11:09,400
Speaker 1: times he beat us. Uh. It feels like people his

1417
01:11:09,640 --> 01:11:14,719
Speaker 1: teammates now kind of try to force feed the idea

1418
01:11:14,760 --> 01:11:18,880
Speaker 1: of his of him being a good teammate right of

1419
01:11:19,040 --> 01:11:22,120
Speaker 1: him doing extra things, Like to me, it's just like,

1420
01:11:22,320 --> 01:11:24,719
Speaker 1: just show me the results, right, Like at this point,

1421
01:11:25,200 --> 01:11:27,120
Speaker 1: enough of the talk about how everyone works hard in

1422
01:11:27,160 --> 01:11:29,760
Speaker 1: the NFL, right, like, come on, I just this this

1423
01:11:29,920 --> 01:11:33,000
Speaker 1: idea that that oh he just you know, he just

1424
01:11:33,120 --> 01:11:35,559
Speaker 1: first guy in, last guy out. I mean, like, come on, man,

1425
01:11:35,920 --> 01:11:38,880
Speaker 1: quarterbacks are all like that. Russellis's no different anyone else.

1426
01:11:40,080 --> 01:11:41,960
Speaker 1: To show me the results on Sunday. Now, I'm just

1427
01:11:42,000 --> 01:11:44,639
Speaker 1: tired of hearing about how hard someone works.

1428
01:11:44,439 --> 01:11:48,400
Speaker 3: Like coinsist with guys who really dislike one another. Because

1429
01:11:48,560 --> 01:11:49,920
Speaker 3: when you go in the field, you got a job.

1430
01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:52,000
Speaker 3: You can I think you can because you don't look.

1431
01:11:52,439 --> 01:11:53,800
Speaker 1: If you know what it is. Here's what it is.

1432
01:11:54,360 --> 01:11:55,960
Speaker 1: If you had a and if you had a radio

1433
01:11:56,040 --> 01:12:00,559
Speaker 1: host who you didn't like, but you were number one ratings,

1434
01:12:01,479 --> 01:12:03,200
Speaker 1: you would suck it up for a little bit of time.

1435
01:12:03,400 --> 01:12:08,160
Speaker 1: Right Eventually, if the ratings drop or it becomes too toxic,

1436
01:12:08,240 --> 01:12:12,479
Speaker 1: then you're ready to get out. Okay, if the Broncos win,

1437
01:12:13,680 --> 01:12:17,040
Speaker 1: everything will be fine. Right If they lose this year, well,

1438
01:12:17,080 --> 01:12:20,360
Speaker 1: first of all, Wilson's gone after the season. He's out

1439
01:12:20,360 --> 01:12:23,639
Speaker 1: there as fast as possible. But the offense this year

1440
01:12:24,640 --> 01:12:26,760
Speaker 1: very clearly is being set up to take the ball

1441
01:12:26,800 --> 01:12:29,040
Speaker 1: out of his hands as much as possible. We're to

1442
01:12:29,120 --> 01:12:31,200
Speaker 1: run the ball kind They built their offensive line this

1443
01:12:31,280 --> 01:12:34,760
Speaker 1: offseason with McGlinchey who's not the best pass protector but

1444
01:12:35,000 --> 01:12:37,599
Speaker 1: could run a block decently well and bend powers and whatnot.

1445
01:12:38,040 --> 01:12:41,400
Speaker 1: Quinn Miners is there like it's a run blocking offensive line.

1446
01:12:41,400 --> 01:12:43,360
Speaker 1: They're going to run the ball and take the ball

1447
01:12:43,360 --> 01:12:45,599
Speaker 1: out of Russell Wilson's hands as much as possible. When

1448
01:12:45,640 --> 01:12:48,280
Speaker 1: you pay someone two hundred and sixty million dollars a

1449
01:12:48,439 --> 01:12:51,080
Speaker 1: quarterback and you say, yeah, you know, we got a

1450
01:12:51,200 --> 01:12:53,160
Speaker 1: tense the offense, so he doesn't throw the ball as much.

1451
01:12:53,479 --> 01:12:57,560
Speaker 1: Red flag like, red flag like that's not good. So

1452
01:12:58,800 --> 01:13:04,479
Speaker 1: I don't why Russell Wilson anymore. I just I don't.

1453
01:13:04,520 --> 01:13:07,400
Speaker 1: Even with Sean Payne, his skill set doesn't match Sean

1454
01:13:07,439 --> 01:13:10,400
Speaker 1: Payne's offense, at least historically had the way Sean Payne

1455
01:13:10,400 --> 01:13:15,360
Speaker 1: has run his offense. I don't buy it, man, I

1456
01:13:15,400 --> 01:13:17,000
Speaker 1: think this is this is his last year in Denver.

1457
01:13:17,400 --> 01:13:19,000
Speaker 3: Last, but not least. You did mention like if you

1458
01:13:19,080 --> 01:13:20,880
Speaker 3: had a radio co host and you were nuber one

1459
01:13:20,880 --> 01:13:22,439
Speaker 3: of the ratings and you didn't like them, you could

1460
01:13:22,439 --> 01:13:24,880
Speaker 3: stuck it up. We worked together. I believe we have

1461
01:13:24,920 --> 01:13:25,759
Speaker 3: a pretty good chemistry.

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Speaker 1: We number one in the morning.

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Speaker 3: Well what else is one? Everybody else is in church.

1464
01:13:30,640 --> 01:13:33,479
Speaker 3: But here's the thing I will say this, I think

1465
01:13:33,560 --> 01:13:36,639
Speaker 3: listeners could tell if hosts don't like one another. Kid,

1466
01:13:36,680 --> 01:13:37,000
Speaker 3: don't you know?

1467
01:13:38,080 --> 01:13:41,080
Speaker 1: But again, for three hours, you can fake it right

1468
01:13:41,160 --> 01:13:43,160
Speaker 1: like there was And there was a time that Mike

1469
01:13:43,200 --> 01:13:44,960
Speaker 1: and Mike didn't talk to each other for a year

1470
01:13:45,040 --> 01:13:47,000
Speaker 1: off air, right like they and I think they're friends,

1471
01:13:47,040 --> 01:13:49,120
Speaker 1: but they're just like it. They'd been working their twenty years,

1472
01:13:49,560 --> 01:13:51,200
Speaker 1: like they just like got to a point where they

1473
01:13:51,320 --> 01:13:54,040
Speaker 1: just weren't as friendly. But that didn't show. I don't

1474
01:13:54,040 --> 01:13:58,160
Speaker 1: think on the radio like you can still. Again, in

1475
01:13:58,240 --> 01:14:01,200
Speaker 1: the NFL, there were team mates that I did not like.

1476
01:14:02,120 --> 01:14:05,800
Speaker 1: But practice games, you come together for the greater good,

1477
01:14:05,840 --> 01:14:10,320
Speaker 1: which is winning. Now, eventually when that wears out and

1478
01:14:10,439 --> 01:14:14,160
Speaker 1: your ratings drop, your wings drop, then then then you

1479
01:14:14,479 --> 01:14:16,920
Speaker 1: then you you know, then it gets worse. Right, it's toxic.

1480
01:14:18,000 --> 01:14:20,559
Speaker 1: So if Denver wins early on, it'll be fine. If

1481
01:14:20,600 --> 01:14:25,400
Speaker 1: they start slow and whatnot. Then last year, Man, there

1482
01:14:25,520 --> 01:14:27,360
Speaker 1: was a couple of plays last year where the Denver

1483
01:14:27,439 --> 01:14:31,400
Speaker 1: offensive line. Typically when a quarterback gets.

1484
01:14:31,240 --> 01:14:34,080
Speaker 3: Sacked, if they weren't, they would go back to pick

1485
01:14:34,120 --> 01:14:34,400
Speaker 3: them up.

1486
01:14:34,479 --> 01:14:37,600
Speaker 1: Correct. There's there's a pride element right to going and

1487
01:14:37,680 --> 01:14:39,559
Speaker 1: picking the quarterback of your offense. Love, even if it's

1488
01:14:39,640 --> 01:14:41,160
Speaker 1: your sacked and you give up, you go, you pick,

1489
01:14:41,280 --> 01:14:43,840
Speaker 1: you pick the quarterback up. I'm sorry, buddy, like sorry

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Speaker 1: about that. We'll pick them up, get them off the ground.

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Speaker 1: There were times last year where the Denver offensive line

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01:14:50,640 --> 01:14:53,519
Speaker 1: would look at Russell Wilson on the ground and turn

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01:14:53,600 --> 01:14:57,559
Speaker 1: around and walk away. I cut that clip of them

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01:14:57,680 --> 01:15:00,519
Speaker 1: doing that and send it to a bunch of people,

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01:15:00,760 --> 01:15:04,080
Speaker 1: the former players that are in my contact list, and

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01:15:04,240 --> 01:15:07,800
Speaker 1: they were the offensive line of defensive lineman quarterbacks. They

1497
01:15:07,840 --> 01:15:11,080
Speaker 1: were shocked. It's so clearing how much offensive line did

1498
01:15:11,120 --> 01:15:14,880
Speaker 1: not like him last season. And so I think there's

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01:15:15,240 --> 01:15:18,280
Speaker 1: a new offensive line. For the most part, right guard returns,

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01:15:18,360 --> 01:15:22,040
Speaker 1: left tackle returns. But Russell Will's gonna have to win

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01:15:22,080 --> 01:15:25,080
Speaker 1: those guys over with good play, good pocket presence. I

1502
01:15:25,160 --> 01:15:27,479
Speaker 1: think Sean Payne's trying to work that into the offense.

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01:15:27,520 --> 01:15:30,040
Speaker 1: So it's not something Russell Wilson to himself. It becomes

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01:15:30,080 --> 01:15:31,960
Speaker 1: part of what they do offensively as a unit.

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01:15:32,560 --> 01:15:34,600
Speaker 3: Well, we'll see what happens. I wish him well. I

1506
01:15:34,680 --> 01:15:37,519
Speaker 3: hope that everything happens for the best. But from what

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01:15:37,600 --> 01:15:39,840
Speaker 3: I've heard, is not the nicest person in the world.

1508
01:15:39,880 --> 01:15:42,639
Speaker 3: But Jeff Schwartz is. He's Jeff Schwartz. I'm Andy Furman.

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01:15:42,680 --> 01:15:45,240
Speaker 3: We are Fox Sports Sunday, and Fox Sport's ready on.

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Speaker 3: This just might be the toughest game in all of sports.

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Speaker 3: it's freaking next bottom barrel betting right around the bend

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Speaker 1: Here we go.

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Speaker 3: Let's play the game. It's bottom bottom late money to

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Speaker 3: sleep people, get my money.

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01:16:22,960 --> 01:16:24,800
Speaker 2: I'll put your brain to sleep Betty.

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01:16:24,960 --> 01:16:27,760
Speaker 3: Yes it is. And the biggies that may no handle.

1527
01:16:27,439 --> 01:16:30,400
Speaker 6: It all the big ee all right guys three and

1528
01:16:30,520 --> 01:16:34,160
Speaker 6: two two both of you last week? Oh yeah, not

1529
01:16:34,360 --> 01:16:36,000
Speaker 6: bad winning column.

1530
01:16:36,840 --> 01:16:37,840
Speaker 4: All right, here we go.

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01:16:38,160 --> 01:16:39,679
Speaker 1: We're be coming with darts experts.

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01:16:39,720 --> 01:16:43,760
Speaker 6: I think Andy, you guys are nailing the cricket. So

1533
01:16:43,840 --> 01:16:47,040
Speaker 6: we're starting We're starting off with cricket. Okay, all right,

1534
01:16:47,360 --> 01:16:50,559
Speaker 6: so we're going to the ip L. I guess that's

1535
01:16:50,600 --> 01:16:55,439
Speaker 6: the Indian Cricket League of course, and it's the Shane I.

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01:16:56,640 --> 01:17:01,680
Speaker 6: I totally butchered that Super Kings versus the Jiraw Titans.

1537
01:17:01,960 --> 01:17:03,679
Speaker 1: I see this. Yeah, it's a big game today.

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01:17:03,720 --> 01:17:04,479
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, you see that.

1539
01:17:05,040 --> 01:17:06,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, you guys knew about this.

1540
01:17:07,200 --> 01:17:09,000
Speaker 1: I just looked up it. I you know, I know,

1541
01:17:09,240 --> 01:17:11,760
Speaker 1: I'm you know, the young folks like me and you,

1542
01:17:11,800 --> 01:17:15,560
Speaker 1: we're very good at Google searching, very quick even know

1543
01:17:15,600 --> 01:17:19,200
Speaker 1: what they're search I have you sitch. Indian Cricket League

1544
01:17:19,600 --> 01:17:24,160
Speaker 1: pops up the whole schedule right here. It's uh, I

1545
01:17:24,240 --> 01:17:27,320
Speaker 1: will take give me the you know what, I argue

1546
01:17:27,360 --> 01:17:29,120
Speaker 1: most of Titans fans of the internet, they're just like

1547
01:17:29,280 --> 01:17:32,080
Speaker 1: I don't like them at all, So give me the Kings. Okay,

1548
01:17:32,479 --> 01:17:34,400
Speaker 1: super Kings the school, here's the squad right here. I

1549
01:17:34,439 --> 01:17:36,479
Speaker 1: can't believe he was right handed batsman they got.

1550
01:17:37,200 --> 01:17:38,960
Speaker 3: I thought he made this stuff up. There really isn't

1551
01:17:38,960 --> 01:17:42,559
Speaker 3: Indian cridically. I just can come on, take the Titans.

1552
01:17:42,720 --> 01:17:44,800
Speaker 3: Not taking the Titans because I like the movie.

1553
01:17:45,360 --> 01:17:47,280
Speaker 1: It says the winning probability is fifty to fifty.

1554
01:17:47,600 --> 01:17:49,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's a great match up.

1555
01:17:49,479 --> 01:17:51,840
Speaker 1: Matchups in two two hours and ten minutes. We can

1556
01:17:51,920 --> 01:17:52,519
Speaker 1: find it somewhere.

1557
01:17:52,600 --> 01:17:54,280
Speaker 6: Yeah, great matchup. Stream it.

1558
01:17:56,080 --> 01:17:57,800
Speaker 3: After the show. I'm doing that. I love this.

1559
01:17:58,080 --> 01:18:03,360
Speaker 6: Yes, yeah, good stuff. All right, let's get on to darts.

1560
01:18:03,600 --> 01:18:04,200
Speaker 3: What do you say?

1561
01:18:04,600 --> 01:18:10,280
Speaker 6: Of course, let's go to the best matchup of the day.

1562
01:18:11,560 --> 01:18:17,040
Speaker 6: Peter Hudson versus Kevin Painter. What do you guys got

1563
01:18:18,280 --> 01:18:19,040
Speaker 6: Let's pick up.

1564
01:18:19,120 --> 01:18:22,840
Speaker 3: Might be you know where second, give me the English

1565
01:18:22,880 --> 01:18:23,479
Speaker 3: I will take.

1566
01:18:25,240 --> 01:18:28,720
Speaker 1: I'll take Peter. Peter Hudson. I think he's underdog of

1567
01:18:28,760 --> 01:18:30,600
Speaker 1: this one. I'll take up. Yeah, he is.

1568
01:18:30,880 --> 01:18:34,720
Speaker 3: He's plus Kevin Painter. I like that. I like him.

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01:18:35,240 --> 01:18:35,840
Speaker 2: Kevin Painter.

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01:18:36,320 --> 01:18:40,519
Speaker 6: Cool at minus one forty, that's your guy. All right, cool,

1571
01:18:41,200 --> 01:18:44,400
Speaker 6: all right, let's move on to the sports call of duty.

1572
01:18:44,520 --> 01:18:47,200
Speaker 6: This is actually really cool. You know, adding some esports

1573
01:18:47,240 --> 01:18:50,800
Speaker 6: into this. Yes, we're gonna go to Toronto Ultra. We're

1574
01:18:50,800 --> 01:18:53,760
Speaker 6: gonna actually do it's call of duty. I guess it's

1575
01:18:53,800 --> 01:19:00,160
Speaker 6: like number of like kills. So Toronto Ultra versus New

1576
01:19:00,280 --> 01:19:01,639
Speaker 6: York sub Liners.

1577
01:19:01,840 --> 01:19:02,400
Speaker 3: What do you got?

1578
01:19:03,040 --> 01:19:05,680
Speaker 1: Well, I'll go with Toronto just because I know that

1579
01:19:05,800 --> 01:19:09,360
Speaker 1: the and doesn't take New York. I don't want to

1580
01:19:09,400 --> 01:19:11,439
Speaker 1: take his his New York team away from him. It's

1581
01:19:11,520 --> 01:19:13,839
Speaker 1: love away from him. So I'll take Toronto.

1582
01:19:14,479 --> 01:19:16,519
Speaker 3: And the sub line is they probably play the games

1583
01:19:16,760 --> 01:19:18,960
Speaker 3: in the subway. So I got the New York sub Liners.

1584
01:19:19,960 --> 01:19:21,760
Speaker 6: Yeah, you got to think about who would be better

1585
01:19:21,840 --> 01:19:24,520
Speaker 6: which which city would have better gamers?

1586
01:19:24,720 --> 01:19:25,080
Speaker 4: I don't know.

1587
01:19:26,800 --> 01:19:29,200
Speaker 3: The New York is probably would cheat for I don't

1588
01:19:29,200 --> 01:19:31,760
Speaker 3: know why I think that, but they probably would. Yeah,

1589
01:19:31,760 --> 01:19:34,519
Speaker 3: I don't doubt in Toronto, but I still go with

1590
01:19:34,520 --> 01:19:35,240
Speaker 3: the sub Liners.

1591
01:19:36,000 --> 01:19:36,320
Speaker 1: All right.

1592
01:19:36,400 --> 01:19:40,800
Speaker 6: On the handball, this is another fan favorite. Uh the

1593
01:19:41,000 --> 01:19:46,160
Speaker 6: Alborg hand Bold hand Bold that's the name. Let's just

1594
01:19:46,200 --> 01:19:50,040
Speaker 6: say the Handbolds versus the HK. Now hk's plus three

1595
01:19:50,080 --> 01:19:52,120
Speaker 6: and a half. Just let you know they have three

1596
01:19:52,120 --> 01:19:52,679
Speaker 6: and a half points.

1597
01:19:52,680 --> 01:19:54,840
Speaker 1: Well, handball fills up your alley, dy if you want

1598
01:19:54,840 --> 01:19:56,200
Speaker 1: to go first, I'll let you take this one.

1599
01:19:56,280 --> 01:19:58,639
Speaker 3: I'm going to HK. Hk's got it all day.

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01:19:59,000 --> 01:20:00,599
Speaker 1: HK, give me the other one.

1601
01:20:00,640 --> 01:20:05,200
Speaker 6: Then all right, that was handbold, Okay, last one, here

1602
01:20:05,240 --> 01:20:09,280
Speaker 6: we go. Yes, yes, yes, let's let's just do let's

1603
01:20:09,360 --> 01:20:12,080
Speaker 6: you know what we're gonna do hockey, all right, because

1604
01:20:12,080 --> 01:20:16,599
Speaker 6: it's normal, and let's just do it. Golden Knights versus Stars.

1605
01:20:17,120 --> 01:20:21,759
Speaker 6: Let's just do plus one ten Golden Knights stars minus

1606
01:20:21,800 --> 01:20:22,240
Speaker 6: one thirty.

1607
01:20:22,280 --> 01:20:27,160
Speaker 1: You guys got I'll take the Stars at home Stars nights.

1608
01:20:27,200 --> 01:20:30,880
Speaker 3: Then whatever, yes, all right, coming right up, But right

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01:20:30,920 --> 01:20:35,240
Speaker 3: now we want to welcome you to Fox Sports Sunday

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01:20:35,240 --> 01:20:37,439
Speaker 3: on Fox Sports. Ready, he's Jeff Schwartz and Andy Furman,

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Speaker 3: we're gonna talk about coaching and coaches right now, because

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01:20:55,479 --> 01:20:58,360
Speaker 3: you've had many of them throughout your career, and certainly

1618
01:20:58,400 --> 01:21:00,240
Speaker 3: we looked at the game last night with us to

1619
01:21:00,320 --> 01:21:02,839
Speaker 3: one one O four, one O three. How much coaching

1620
01:21:03,040 --> 01:21:06,599
Speaker 3: was involved in that win for the Boston Celtics. And honestly,

1621
01:21:06,600 --> 01:21:08,759
Speaker 3: I got to ask you how much coaching is actually

1622
01:21:08,920 --> 01:21:11,839
Speaker 3: done during the course of a season in the NFL.

1623
01:21:11,960 --> 01:21:15,080
Speaker 3: I mean, I know this preparation is the actual coaching.

1624
01:21:15,760 --> 01:21:19,000
Speaker 1: Oh absolutely. I mean part of the job of you know,

1625
01:21:19,160 --> 01:21:21,640
Speaker 1: NFL coaches is the game plan. Right. It's like you

1626
01:21:21,720 --> 01:21:25,880
Speaker 1: gotta as you're putting together entire game plans per the week, right,

1627
01:21:27,800 --> 01:21:30,840
Speaker 1: you don't have it's it's you take it down the

1628
01:21:30,880 --> 01:21:35,120
Speaker 1: studs each each you know, Sunday night and after a

1629
01:21:35,240 --> 01:21:37,320
Speaker 1: game and you prepare an entire game plan for the

1630
01:21:37,439 --> 01:21:43,879
Speaker 1: next week. Now that's made easier with you know, allowing

1631
01:21:44,320 --> 01:21:46,680
Speaker 1: basically everyone has bigger staffs now, right, so they have

1632
01:21:46,880 --> 01:21:50,160
Speaker 1: you know, people doing some events scouting. The way that

1633
01:21:51,000 --> 01:21:53,360
Speaker 1: you know, Pro Football Focus and other companies like that

1634
01:21:53,600 --> 01:21:56,280
Speaker 1: can organize your your film clips for you has been

1635
01:21:56,320 --> 01:21:59,360
Speaker 1: a has been a big, big benefit, Like, okay, I

1636
01:21:59,360 --> 01:22:02,080
Speaker 1: can just pull up up all these organized film clips.

1637
01:22:02,120 --> 01:22:05,280
Speaker 1: Like there's different ways to to make this this this

1638
01:22:05,439 --> 01:22:09,080
Speaker 1: job easier. But there's a ton of coaching each game

1639
01:22:09,760 --> 01:22:14,680
Speaker 1: each week to prepare for for each each game day.

1640
01:22:16,479 --> 01:22:20,920
Speaker 1: I think a baseball manager's job is to is to

1641
01:22:24,040 --> 01:22:27,840
Speaker 1: is to worry about kind of the the mental health

1642
01:22:27,880 --> 01:22:29,840
Speaker 1: of the players over the one hundred and sixty two

1643
01:22:29,880 --> 01:22:33,920
Speaker 1: game season and making sure players have enough rest, making

1644
01:22:34,000 --> 01:22:38,280
Speaker 1: sure players aren't worn out by September, kind of making

1645
01:22:38,320 --> 01:22:43,040
Speaker 1: the personalities work. Right, There's not there's not much game

1646
01:22:43,160 --> 01:22:46,000
Speaker 1: day strategy evolved, right, I mean, there's no there's no

1647
01:22:46,200 --> 01:22:49,680
Speaker 1: there's no pitching. There's no pictures batting anymore that there's

1648
01:22:49,720 --> 01:22:52,519
Speaker 1: no double switches. You're not you know, you're you're not

1649
01:22:52,680 --> 01:22:57,519
Speaker 1: making these these these grand you know strategy to see

1650
01:22:57,560 --> 01:22:59,400
Speaker 1: a lot of that's done before the game, right, you're

1651
01:22:59,479 --> 01:23:02,840
Speaker 1: telling play they have cards now, Okay, I stand here

1652
01:23:03,080 --> 01:23:05,760
Speaker 1: in the outfield when so and so is batting right

1653
01:23:05,840 --> 01:23:08,280
Speaker 1: like they have It's all it's all pregame done now,

1654
01:23:08,360 --> 01:23:11,400
Speaker 1: right in baseball, it's all done pregame. You know. The NBA,

1655
01:23:12,560 --> 01:23:15,000
Speaker 1: obviously you can tell when one coach is better than

1656
01:23:15,000 --> 01:23:16,960
Speaker 1: the other ones about in game adjustments to me, right

1657
01:23:17,240 --> 01:23:20,040
Speaker 1: in what makes coaches doing the NBA, but also too,

1658
01:23:20,080 --> 01:23:21,760
Speaker 1: I think it's the same thing when you're when you

1659
01:23:21,840 --> 01:23:25,120
Speaker 1: have so many games, it's about managing personalities. It's about

1660
01:23:25,200 --> 01:23:31,400
Speaker 1: managing players' bodies. I think less of that in the NFL.

1661
01:23:32,280 --> 01:23:34,680
Speaker 1: The people in charge of that as the training staff, right,

1662
01:23:35,080 --> 01:23:37,640
Speaker 1: not really the coaches. I feel like, you know, the

1663
01:23:37,720 --> 01:23:40,200
Speaker 1: coaches and other sports have to do, you know, more

1664
01:23:40,240 --> 01:23:45,519
Speaker 1: of the bulk of kind of the part of maintaining players'

1665
01:23:45,560 --> 01:23:48,240
Speaker 1: bodies and making sure that the rest is done correctly.

1666
01:23:47,920 --> 01:23:49,840
Speaker 3: And things like that. But there's more delegating in the

1667
01:23:49,960 --> 01:23:51,840
Speaker 3: NFL state. The head coach, to me is more like

1668
01:23:51,880 --> 01:23:54,439
Speaker 3: a CEO of a corporation. He's the face that the team.

1669
01:23:54,479 --> 01:23:55,360
Speaker 3: He's at a news conference.

1670
01:23:55,439 --> 01:23:58,840
Speaker 1: It depends on it, yes, but it depends on what

1671
01:23:59,080 --> 01:24:02,599
Speaker 1: your head coach does. If you're an offensive coordinator, you're

1672
01:24:02,600 --> 01:24:05,320
Speaker 1: probably the game planner, right like, yeah, yeah.

1673
01:24:05,680 --> 01:24:08,439
Speaker 3: So I get back to the NBA right now, this

1674
01:24:08,640 --> 01:24:10,799
Speaker 3: is a guy who gets it done against no fanfare

1675
01:24:10,880 --> 01:24:13,040
Speaker 3: or respect. I'm talking about the Miami basketball coach that

1676
01:24:13,080 --> 01:24:16,760
Speaker 3: Heat coached, Eric Spolstra. They had a playing game this year.

1677
01:24:17,040 --> 01:24:18,640
Speaker 3: They lost to Atlanta and they had to beat the

1678
01:24:18,680 --> 01:24:21,160
Speaker 3: Chicago Bulls to make the playoffs, which they did. Number

1679
01:24:21,240 --> 01:24:23,799
Speaker 3: eight seed. They beat the number one seed in Milwaukee

1680
01:24:23,880 --> 01:24:26,240
Speaker 3: Bucks in five games. Then they beat the Knicks. And

1681
01:24:26,400 --> 01:24:29,200
Speaker 3: get this, there was a survey on NBA dot com,

1682
01:24:29,280 --> 01:24:32,640
Speaker 3: a general manager survey. Fifty two percent of those responding

1683
01:24:33,000 --> 01:24:36,080
Speaker 3: the executives said that Spolstra is the best coach in

1684
01:24:36,120 --> 01:24:39,960
Speaker 3: the league, second best at in game adjustments, third best

1685
01:24:40,040 --> 01:24:43,160
Speaker 3: at managing the motivating players, and the coach with the

1686
01:24:43,400 --> 01:24:47,000
Speaker 3: best defensive schemes. And they gave a case in point

1687
01:24:47,400 --> 01:24:49,760
Speaker 3: when they played against the Bucks in that series this year,

1688
01:24:50,280 --> 01:24:54,280
Speaker 3: Spolster put bam Adebayo in the point forward role to

1689
01:24:54,439 --> 01:24:57,680
Speaker 3: help draw defender Brook Lopez away from the basket. So

1690
01:24:58,000 --> 01:25:00,479
Speaker 3: here's a guy who's done so much for so long,

1691
01:25:00,760 --> 01:25:03,320
Speaker 3: the second longest tenured coach with the same team in

1692
01:25:03,400 --> 01:25:07,000
Speaker 3: the league. But guess what he's never won Coach of

1693
01:25:07,040 --> 01:25:08,519
Speaker 3: the year would which is amazing?

1694
01:25:09,880 --> 01:25:15,360
Speaker 1: Well, I am Coach of the year is man. It's

1695
01:25:15,400 --> 01:25:17,240
Speaker 1: often just like the coach of the team with the

1696
01:25:17,280 --> 01:25:23,679
Speaker 1: best record, like it's not. It's not an award given

1697
01:25:23,720 --> 01:25:26,719
Speaker 1: to the best coach like in other sports. Right, the NFL,

1698
01:25:27,280 --> 01:25:29,960
Speaker 1: we all agree the best coach is probably at the

1699
01:25:30,040 --> 01:25:33,479
Speaker 1: moment Andy Reid, Right, I think Bill Belichick is the

1700
01:25:33,479 --> 01:25:36,519
Speaker 1: greatest coach ever. But at this current moment, I think

1701
01:25:36,520 --> 01:25:38,800
Speaker 1: people would give it to Andy Reid just because the

1702
01:25:38,880 --> 01:25:41,599
Speaker 1: team is humming at a different level than the Patriots,

1703
01:25:41,640 --> 01:25:44,360
Speaker 1: even though I think again, the Patriots defense last year

1704
01:25:44,439 --> 01:25:45,840
Speaker 1: was number one of the end of the season for

1705
01:25:45,960 --> 01:25:48,000
Speaker 1: a reason. But I think we give it to Andy

1706
01:25:48,000 --> 01:25:50,839
Speaker 1: Reid or Andy Reid won Belichick. Two. I think Belichick

1707
01:25:50,920 --> 01:25:52,920
Speaker 1: over his career, obviously is the best coach of all time.

1708
01:25:53,920 --> 01:25:55,439
Speaker 1: How often of those guys would coach the year?

1709
01:25:56,760 --> 01:25:59,479
Speaker 3: That's true, But I think it's a different animal in

1710
01:25:59,520 --> 01:26:03,000
Speaker 3: the National Football League because Coach of the Year in

1711
01:26:03,120 --> 01:26:07,160
Speaker 3: the NFL might be the coach who surprises the most,

1712
01:26:07,600 --> 01:26:11,040
Speaker 3: like a team a team from right.

1713
01:26:11,120 --> 01:26:14,360
Speaker 1: But that doesn't. But your argument in the basketball is comments,

1714
01:26:14,520 --> 01:26:16,200
Speaker 1: you know sports is the best coach, he should win

1715
01:26:16,280 --> 01:26:16,840
Speaker 1: Coach of the Year.

1716
01:26:18,080 --> 01:26:20,640
Speaker 3: Well, one, that it's an unbelief. He's a guy with

1717
01:26:20,720 --> 01:26:21,479
Speaker 3: the fifth most player.

1718
01:26:21,520 --> 01:26:23,679
Speaker 1: Have you never won it even with Lebron and Dwayne

1719
01:26:23,680 --> 01:26:24,360
Speaker 1: Wade of those years.

1720
01:26:24,439 --> 01:26:27,400
Speaker 3: No, No, he's won over almost sixty one percent of

1721
01:26:27,439 --> 01:26:30,799
Speaker 3: his playoff games. He's not a coach. I mean, he's

1722
01:26:30,840 --> 01:26:32,599
Speaker 3: a hell of a coach. I mean, but I don't

1723
01:26:32,600 --> 01:26:35,559
Speaker 3: think he gets the recognition and respect that that he deserves.

1724
01:26:36,160 --> 01:26:38,080
Speaker 3: And uh, and look he's not going to get it

1725
01:26:38,080 --> 01:26:40,720
Speaker 3: if they lose tomorrow night either. But what he has

1726
01:26:40,760 --> 01:26:43,080
Speaker 3: done is a number eight seed is somewhat amazing. I

1727
01:26:43,080 --> 01:26:45,200
Speaker 3: don't think anybody even thought that the Miami he would

1728
01:26:45,200 --> 01:26:46,280
Speaker 3: be in the playoffs this year.

1729
01:26:47,040 --> 01:26:51,240
Speaker 1: I'm curious about his reception if they lose Game seven,

1730
01:26:51,800 --> 01:26:53,800
Speaker 1: is like his perceptions, Like how do people view him

1731
01:26:54,560 --> 01:26:58,720
Speaker 1: after if he loses that game? Because if you had

1732
01:26:58,800 --> 01:27:03,080
Speaker 1: said any point before the series, Okay, Miami loses in seven,

1733
01:27:04,160 --> 01:27:06,720
Speaker 1: you'd probably be like, yeah, man, they bow their butts off.

1734
01:27:07,120 --> 01:27:08,960
Speaker 3: Well, look, I would say this, excuse me. There's a

1735
01:27:08,960 --> 01:27:11,800
Speaker 3: difference when you're losing in seven. When you win the

1736
01:27:11,840 --> 01:27:15,160
Speaker 3: first two but you're up three zip that that's a

1737
01:27:15,240 --> 01:27:17,040
Speaker 3: major difference when you're three I know.

1738
01:27:18,080 --> 01:27:19,640
Speaker 1: That's kind of the point I'm getting at, right is

1739
01:27:20,280 --> 01:27:22,519
Speaker 1: if you had said before the series they lose in seven,

1740
01:27:22,560 --> 01:27:26,479
Speaker 1: you'd be like, great job, Miami. But now you'd be like, well,

1741
01:27:26,520 --> 01:27:29,519
Speaker 1: that's a storic collapse, right, Like, there's a different the

1742
01:27:29,600 --> 01:27:32,200
Speaker 1: talking point is just so different if they lose in

1743
01:27:32,200 --> 01:27:34,639
Speaker 1: the way they're going to lose. That I'm curious about.

1744
01:27:34,680 --> 01:27:39,360
Speaker 1: And again and being like I don't know what what

1745
01:27:39,560 --> 01:27:42,880
Speaker 1: Spotter could do differently, Like if his guys aren't gonna

1746
01:27:42,920 --> 01:27:45,200
Speaker 1: make shots like nothing, he can't do it. For Jimmy

1747
01:27:45,240 --> 01:27:47,360
Speaker 1: Butler last, like to make him hit the ball. I mean,

1748
01:27:47,600 --> 01:27:50,360
Speaker 1: I mean I hit the ball, shoot the ball better.

1749
01:27:50,920 --> 01:27:52,240
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know what he could have

1750
01:27:52,280 --> 01:27:55,920
Speaker 1: done differently. So that's why I think sometimes it's just

1751
01:27:56,000 --> 01:27:58,840
Speaker 1: hard to really put wins and losses on a coach.

1752
01:27:59,040 --> 01:28:02,280
Speaker 1: You know, you start player have to play well. If

1753
01:28:02,280 --> 01:28:04,479
Speaker 1: they don't, you might you might not win a game.

1754
01:28:04,520 --> 01:28:05,639
Speaker 1: It's not really the coach's fault.

1755
01:28:06,160 --> 01:28:08,559
Speaker 3: Well, we always talk about the term of expectations because

1756
01:28:08,640 --> 01:28:12,080
Speaker 3: when the Milwaukee Bucks lost the first round to Miami

1757
01:28:12,479 --> 01:28:15,320
Speaker 3: and Milwaukee basically was the number one seed, we both

1758
01:28:15,400 --> 01:28:18,080
Speaker 3: knew that Budenholzer was going to get fired, and he

1759
01:28:18,120 --> 01:28:20,840
Speaker 3: did because the expectations were that the Milwaukee Bucks, if

1760
01:28:20,840 --> 01:28:22,519
Speaker 3: they weren't gonna win it all, they would at least

1761
01:28:22,520 --> 01:28:23,160
Speaker 3: get to the finals.

1762
01:28:23,200 --> 01:28:23,840
Speaker 1: So he was gone.

1763
01:28:24,200 --> 01:28:26,559
Speaker 3: And nothing's gonna happen to spoilster if they lose, because

1764
01:28:26,960 --> 01:28:29,479
Speaker 3: there weren't the expectations there. They really weren't.

1765
01:28:31,160 --> 01:28:38,000
Speaker 1: I sposal. Also, you know, Boonholzer has continually gardened the

1766
01:28:38,080 --> 01:28:41,840
Speaker 1: knock that he didn't make adjustments well enough game to

1767
01:28:41,960 --> 01:28:45,800
Speaker 1: game in game adjustments there just wasn't that. That's not

1768
01:28:45,960 --> 01:28:48,479
Speaker 1: the issue with spolsterra right, it never an issue with him.

1769
01:28:48,520 --> 01:28:51,800
Speaker 1: So and I trust smarter NBA people to kind of

1770
01:28:51,840 --> 01:28:54,720
Speaker 1: give me those you know, give me those talking boards obviously,

1771
01:28:56,320 --> 01:29:00,880
Speaker 1: so that that's just a big difference as Booholzer. You know,

1772
01:29:01,280 --> 01:29:03,679
Speaker 1: people will say, yeah, yeah, he doesn't make the adjustments

1773
01:29:03,720 --> 01:29:06,360
Speaker 1: that you have to make to win at the level

1774
01:29:06,400 --> 01:29:08,680
Speaker 1: that you need to win that consistently. And look, I

1775
01:29:08,720 --> 01:29:12,080
Speaker 1: think if Giannis is healthy, probably the entire series they

1776
01:29:12,160 --> 01:29:15,719
Speaker 1: win anyways, and Boonholder still has his job. But the NBA,

1777
01:29:15,880 --> 01:29:18,680
Speaker 1: just like the NFL, you know, it's it's very harsh. Man.

1778
01:29:19,120 --> 01:29:22,559
Speaker 1: One year you're the reigning king and one year you're

1779
01:29:22,640 --> 01:29:23,200
Speaker 1: you're out of there.

1780
01:29:23,640 --> 01:29:25,160
Speaker 3: More than that, one year the coach of the Year

1781
01:29:25,200 --> 01:29:27,040
Speaker 3: and the next year or two years after that you fired.

1782
01:29:27,320 --> 01:29:28,920
Speaker 3: I mean it's just I feel like Coach of.

1783
01:29:28,920 --> 01:29:30,680
Speaker 1: The Year and talking about Sposture not getting it. Coach

1784
01:29:30,720 --> 01:29:31,479
Speaker 1: the Year feels like.

1785
01:29:33,200 --> 01:29:33,439
Speaker 6: It is.

1786
01:29:33,760 --> 01:29:38,280
Speaker 1: Uh, it's like it ends up being the death Niel

1787
01:29:38,320 --> 01:29:40,160
Speaker 1: for you. Like actually doesn't like it doesn't mean you're

1788
01:29:40,160 --> 01:29:41,160
Speaker 1: gonna keep your job forever.

1789
01:29:41,280 --> 01:29:43,000
Speaker 3: Well, Look at Nick Nurse that couldn't go to Toronto

1790
01:29:43,040 --> 01:29:44,960
Speaker 3: two years ago to win it all, and then now

1791
01:29:45,000 --> 01:29:46,840
Speaker 3: he's out. I mean he can't get a job. I mean,

1792
01:29:47,280 --> 01:29:49,280
Speaker 3: and look the same thing with Phoenix. I mean they're

1793
01:29:49,320 --> 01:29:53,080
Speaker 3: their coach. I mean, you just don't in an amazing situation.

1794
01:29:53,160 --> 01:29:55,479
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know if owners are quick to

1795
01:29:55,560 --> 01:29:57,640
Speaker 3: push the gun and get rid of these guys, I

1796
01:29:58,240 --> 01:30:00,400
Speaker 3: don't know why. I mean, back in the day, you

1797
01:30:00,520 --> 01:30:03,320
Speaker 3: get a guy who's a manager or coach, win, loser, draw,

1798
01:30:03,800 --> 01:30:06,400
Speaker 3: he stays the length of his contract. Now it's like, no,

1799
01:30:06,560 --> 01:30:08,400
Speaker 3: you don't win, get out, We'll get someone else. I

1800
01:30:08,439 --> 01:30:09,679
Speaker 3: don't understand it. I really don't.

1801
01:30:09,760 --> 01:30:13,720
Speaker 1: Well, it's impatience, right, It's impatience, That's what it is.

1802
01:30:13,800 --> 01:30:18,439
Speaker 1: It's impatience. There's no patience now to let someone grow

1803
01:30:18,479 --> 01:30:21,719
Speaker 1: a program. There's no patience now to let someone build

1804
01:30:21,720 --> 01:30:27,200
Speaker 1: a roster. There's a media expectation of winning. And that's

1805
01:30:27,280 --> 01:30:32,920
Speaker 1: what That's why you know that coaches are gone much

1806
01:30:32,960 --> 01:30:33,920
Speaker 1: quicker than you expect.

1807
01:30:34,360 --> 01:30:37,679
Speaker 3: That's why we've even seen and this is a shocker

1808
01:30:37,760 --> 01:30:41,559
Speaker 3: to me, which is somewhat new, seeing college coaches get

1809
01:30:41,600 --> 01:30:44,559
Speaker 3: the acts even before the season is over at times

1810
01:30:45,040 --> 01:30:46,200
Speaker 3: well coaches.

1811
01:30:46,320 --> 01:30:49,160
Speaker 1: The part about the college coaches, and obviously cover college sports,

1812
01:30:49,640 --> 01:30:51,280
Speaker 1: is I think we don't give them enough time, Like

1813
01:30:51,360 --> 01:30:56,200
Speaker 1: I really don't. You know, it takes programs two, three,

1814
01:30:56,400 --> 01:30:58,639
Speaker 1: four years. Sometimes he gets your own recruits in there.

1815
01:30:59,600 --> 01:31:02,599
Speaker 1: Now with the transfer portal, things might be a little

1816
01:31:02,600 --> 01:31:05,280
Speaker 1: bit different. Right the time tables moved up and we've

1817
01:31:05,360 --> 01:31:07,320
Speaker 1: seen success of like a Lincoln Riley in year one

1818
01:31:07,360 --> 01:31:09,000
Speaker 1: at the USC, and everyone thinks that's the way it's

1819
01:31:09,000 --> 01:31:11,320
Speaker 1: supposed to be. Or is the Urban Meyer going to

1820
01:31:12,040 --> 01:31:14,280
Speaker 1: two different schools and winning a championship in two years

1821
01:31:14,320 --> 01:31:16,799
Speaker 1: at Florida and Ohio State, that's the way it's supposed

1822
01:31:16,800 --> 01:31:20,799
Speaker 1: to be. I do think by year two in college

1823
01:31:20,800 --> 01:31:25,240
Speaker 1: football in an NFL as well, you should see some improvement, right,

1824
01:31:25,240 --> 01:31:27,600
Speaker 1: you should see some improvement in the right direction. But

1825
01:31:27,720 --> 01:31:30,160
Speaker 1: also expectations are program right like I'm an organ guy,

1826
01:31:30,680 --> 01:31:33,320
Speaker 1: or it's expected to win almost immediately and Dan Lanning

1827
01:31:33,360 --> 01:31:37,519
Speaker 1: won ten games last year Oregon State Jonathan Smith won

1828
01:31:37,640 --> 01:31:39,760
Speaker 1: two games, two games and three games. I think or

1829
01:31:39,840 --> 01:31:42,320
Speaker 1: won one game, two games, three games his first three years.

1830
01:31:42,720 --> 01:31:44,640
Speaker 1: They kept him on. Now he's a win is a

1831
01:31:44,680 --> 01:31:47,879
Speaker 1: ten win program in Oregon State. It dependsable with your expectation.

1832
01:31:47,920 --> 01:31:50,920
Speaker 1: If Oregon were to win two games, coaches fired, but

1833
01:31:51,040 --> 01:31:53,760
Speaker 1: it's called Oregon State. You build up over time. They

1834
01:31:53,800 --> 01:31:56,360
Speaker 1: gave him that opportunity. O those schools might have said,

1835
01:31:56,360 --> 01:31:58,479
Speaker 1: you know what, no chance. But he's in alumn there.

1836
01:31:58,960 --> 01:32:00,920
Speaker 1: He played quarterback there time when they used to win

1837
01:32:01,160 --> 01:32:03,640
Speaker 1: in the late nineties, and you let him grow his

1838
01:32:03,760 --> 01:32:07,160
Speaker 1: program into being what it is now. But I think

1839
01:32:07,200 --> 01:32:09,160
Speaker 1: we're too quick on the college trying to fire coaches,

1840
01:32:09,160 --> 01:32:11,000
Speaker 1: and the part that is boosters right there, you know,

1841
01:32:11,479 --> 01:32:13,639
Speaker 1: and the money people that that you know, the gift

1842
01:32:13,720 --> 01:32:17,760
Speaker 1: your school have a saying it sometimes but it's so impatient, man,

1843
01:32:18,000 --> 01:32:18,679
Speaker 1: so impatient.

1844
01:32:19,240 --> 01:32:21,280
Speaker 3: Well, you bring out the portal, which changes the whole

1845
01:32:21,360 --> 01:32:24,200
Speaker 3: dynamic of everything. And just the other day, patnar Doozy

1846
01:32:24,240 --> 01:32:25,640
Speaker 3: and I know Papa because he was the coach at

1847
01:32:25,720 --> 01:32:28,719
Speaker 3: University of Cincinnati. He's an offensive coordinator. Patton ar Dooozy

1848
01:32:28,800 --> 01:32:31,360
Speaker 3: is the head coach University of Pittsburgh. He kind of

1849
01:32:31,520 --> 01:32:34,479
Speaker 3: rammed it pretty good against Deon Sanders at Colorado's saying

1850
01:32:34,479 --> 01:32:36,479
Speaker 3: that this is not the way the portal should be.

1851
01:32:36,880 --> 01:32:38,960
Speaker 3: It shouldn't be this way. Basically, Deon goes in there

1852
01:32:39,000 --> 01:32:41,200
Speaker 3: and says, hey, guys, get your name in the portal,

1853
01:32:41,240 --> 01:32:42,880
Speaker 3: because you ain't going to be playing for me. Get

1854
01:32:42,960 --> 01:32:44,920
Speaker 3: the hell out. And I kind of agree with Pap

1855
01:32:45,000 --> 01:32:47,599
Speaker 3: because it should it be that way. I mean, these

1856
01:32:47,720 --> 01:32:49,800
Speaker 3: kids really want to go there and maybe had a

1857
01:32:49,880 --> 01:32:51,880
Speaker 3: dream to go to Colorado, a litt bit from the area.

1858
01:32:52,200 --> 01:32:54,840
Speaker 3: Now they are out on the street looking for a school.

1859
01:32:54,600 --> 01:32:58,439
Speaker 1: To go to. So this is an interesting topic. It's

1860
01:32:58,479 --> 01:33:01,759
Speaker 1: when I cover a lot, right, So when the transfer

1861
01:33:01,880 --> 01:33:07,160
Speaker 1: port I was against. I was against the idea of

1862
01:33:07,240 --> 01:33:12,000
Speaker 1: open transfer of now I'm for you, grad transfer, great,

1863
01:33:12,080 --> 01:33:15,799
Speaker 1: I'm four, you get a new coach, you can transfer,

1864
01:33:17,960 --> 01:33:20,560
Speaker 1: but open transfer just the idea of like I'm not

1865
01:33:20,680 --> 01:33:24,120
Speaker 1: happy here, I'm leaving. I was against. The reason why

1866
01:33:24,120 --> 01:33:26,519
Speaker 1: I was against it was exactly what's happening now, which

1867
01:33:26,600 --> 01:33:28,720
Speaker 1: is that? And I called this, this is what was

1868
01:33:28,720 --> 01:33:31,639
Speaker 1: gonna happen. We're gonna have free agency. And by the way,

1869
01:33:31,760 --> 01:33:35,080
Speaker 1: unchecked Pragie, the NFL has has a salary cap, right,

1870
01:33:35,200 --> 01:33:38,120
Speaker 1: has like ways to make sure fre agency is not

1871
01:33:38,240 --> 01:33:40,519
Speaker 1: a free for all. Right, And in the college basket,

1872
01:33:40,560 --> 01:33:44,160
Speaker 1: including in college basketball and college football, it's absolutely a

1873
01:33:44,240 --> 01:33:48,320
Speaker 1: free for all players that are not expected to transfer,

1874
01:33:48,400 --> 01:33:52,400
Speaker 1: like your stars should not be transferring. You talked about

1875
01:33:52,400 --> 01:33:55,479
Speaker 1: pattn Ordouzy, like Jordan Addison who won the Blatnikoff two

1876
01:33:55,560 --> 01:33:58,679
Speaker 1: years ago. That's a player that you would never expected

1877
01:33:58,680 --> 01:34:01,920
Speaker 1: when the transfer portal became thing, that he would that

1878
01:34:02,000 --> 01:34:04,439
Speaker 1: he would transfer. But that's where we're at now, right.

1879
01:34:04,520 --> 01:34:07,879
Speaker 1: The best players at QUO unquote smaller schools at Pittsburgh's

1880
01:34:07,880 --> 01:34:09,439
Speaker 1: not a smaller school, but school they can't offer the

1881
01:34:09,520 --> 01:34:12,880
Speaker 1: NI opportunities that USC can and I and anyway I

1882
01:34:12,880 --> 01:34:14,880
Speaker 1: speak of that. That's our like, I don't like the

1883
01:34:14,920 --> 01:34:18,040
Speaker 1: transfer portal as much, but but also I'm I'm fond

1884
01:34:18,080 --> 01:34:19,240
Speaker 1: of the athletes getting paid.

1885
01:34:19,560 --> 01:34:23,519
Speaker 3: So here's here's the question though, But would the transfer

1886
01:34:23,640 --> 01:34:26,840
Speaker 3: portal be okay in your mind if they didn't have

1887
01:34:27,000 --> 01:34:29,920
Speaker 3: NIL because that's why they're in the transfer portal, Not

1888
01:34:30,000 --> 01:34:31,920
Speaker 3: so much because they're not playing with it on the coach.

1889
01:34:32,160 --> 01:34:34,720
Speaker 3: They know that if you're in a USC, it's very

1890
01:34:34,880 --> 01:34:37,200
Speaker 3: difficult to get NIL money because you're in a large

1891
01:34:37,280 --> 01:34:39,479
Speaker 3: market and you're competing with pro sports. So you go

1892
01:34:39,520 --> 01:34:42,599
Speaker 3: to a school like maybe Oklahoma State and Stillwater where

1893
01:34:42,600 --> 01:34:43,800
Speaker 3: you could like own the deal.

1894
01:34:44,240 --> 01:34:47,120
Speaker 1: That's what they do. Yeah, but I think that the

1895
01:34:47,240 --> 01:34:50,200
Speaker 1: larger issue than me with the transfer portal is that

1896
01:34:51,520 --> 01:34:55,160
Speaker 1: the idea of the portal was to give power to

1897
01:34:55,240 --> 01:34:59,240
Speaker 1: the players, right that say, hey, I go to I

1898
01:34:59,360 --> 01:35:02,720
Speaker 1: go to a certain school. The coaches and I hate

1899
01:35:02,800 --> 01:35:04,400
Speaker 1: using this word mean to me, I don't like the

1900
01:35:04,439 --> 01:35:06,280
Speaker 1: coach because I think it's kind of really really silly

1901
01:35:06,800 --> 01:35:10,560
Speaker 1: that that you you like. I think sometimes it's a

1902
01:35:10,640 --> 01:35:12,280
Speaker 1: cop out to transfer when you're not happy at a

1903
01:35:12,280 --> 01:35:14,840
Speaker 1: school because the coach is not nice to you. But nonetheless,

1904
01:35:16,040 --> 01:35:17,920
Speaker 1: you know, the power to the players, right, I can

1905
01:35:18,000 --> 01:35:20,200
Speaker 1: transfer if I'm in a spot that I don't like.

1906
01:35:21,000 --> 01:35:23,479
Speaker 1: But to me, right now, it's happening, it's not. It's

1907
01:35:23,520 --> 01:35:26,040
Speaker 1: not power of the players. It's powered the coaches. You

1908
01:35:26,120 --> 01:35:29,200
Speaker 1: mentioned Dean, and look, I'm okay with Dean Sanders doing

1909
01:35:29,240 --> 01:35:30,599
Speaker 1: what he does because that's that's allowed.

1910
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Speaker 3: You're allowed to tell the player now football, Yeah, you're.

1911
01:35:33,960 --> 01:35:36,320
Speaker 1: Allowed to tell a player down coach football. You don't

1912
01:35:36,360 --> 01:35:38,640
Speaker 1: have a roster spot here. And to be fair, scholarships

1913
01:35:38,680 --> 01:35:42,040
Speaker 1: are year to year. But it's called they call it processing. Andy.

1914
01:35:42,080 --> 01:35:45,599
Speaker 1: The word is processing. They process players out. They say, hey,

1915
01:35:46,080 --> 01:35:49,040
Speaker 1: you're not gonna play here, you should leave, and the

1916
01:35:49,240 --> 01:35:51,640
Speaker 1: kids like, cool, I'm gonna leave. Well, who who's that

1917
01:35:51,760 --> 01:35:53,720
Speaker 1: power to? Is the power of the player or is

1918
01:35:53,720 --> 01:35:55,760
Speaker 1: the power of the coach? The powers to the coach?

1919
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Speaker 1: Now right, it's a coach who is saying, hey, Jeff Schwartz,

1920
01:36:00,080 --> 01:36:02,960
Speaker 1: only you. And again, I might not want to leave Colorado.

1921
01:36:03,360 --> 01:36:05,240
Speaker 1: I might not want to go I want to leave

1922
01:36:05,360 --> 01:36:07,800
Speaker 1: Orger or USC or Pittsburgh. But my coach says, you

1923
01:36:07,960 --> 01:36:10,040
Speaker 1: have to leave. You're not gonna play here. Well, of

1924
01:36:10,080 --> 01:36:11,800
Speaker 1: course you're gonna leave because you want to play somewhere.

1925
01:36:11,800 --> 01:36:14,280
Speaker 1: It's while you're in in the sport you want to play.

1926
01:36:14,880 --> 01:36:17,200
Speaker 1: That doesn't seem like power the players. That's power to

1927
01:36:17,280 --> 01:36:20,840
Speaker 1: the coach, no doubt. And it's flipped and it's always

1928
01:36:20,840 --> 01:36:22,720
Speaker 1: gonna happen. Guys like this is always gonna happen. It

1929
01:36:22,760 --> 01:36:25,080
Speaker 1: was always gonna be end up being free agency. And

1930
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Speaker 1: the people that argued for the transfer portal, I think

1931
01:36:27,760 --> 01:36:30,240
Speaker 1: are regretting a little bit because it was not supposed

1932
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Speaker 1: to operate in the way it has. Of course, some

1933
01:36:32,520 --> 01:36:34,680
Speaker 1: players are benefiting from it, but a lot or not, man,

1934
01:36:34,720 --> 01:36:37,040
Speaker 1: a lot are being told, you know, I committed to

1935
01:36:37,560 --> 01:36:39,840
Speaker 1: my school, I wanted to go to and now all

1936
01:36:39,880 --> 01:36:41,680
Speaker 1: of a sudden, after one year or two years, I'm

1937
01:36:41,720 --> 01:36:43,680
Speaker 1: being told by that coach to get the heck out

1938
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Speaker 1: of here. It's not player friendly, man, It's coach.

1939
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Speaker 3: Friendly, no doubt about that. I want to pick up

1940
01:36:48,240 --> 01:36:50,080
Speaker 3: on this a little bit too, but he's just what's

1941
01:36:50,080 --> 01:36:53,160
Speaker 3: got him on Twitter at Geoff Schwartz and Andy from

1942
01:36:53,200 --> 01:36:55,439
Speaker 3: anfso I better. Yeah, you got to comment eight seven

1943
01:36:55,560 --> 01:36:58,320
Speaker 3: seven ninety nine on Fox it's eight seven seven nine

1944
01:36:58,680 --> 01:37:01,280
Speaker 3: sixty three sixty. Of course we've got the blame game

1945
01:37:01,760 --> 01:37:04,360
Speaker 3: at the end of this hour, but do you honestly

1946
01:37:04,479 --> 01:37:09,000
Speaker 3: believe this? That's next He said he was blindsided, and

1947
01:37:09,040 --> 01:37:10,519
Speaker 3: we'll get to that in just about a minute. About

1948
01:37:10,520 --> 01:37:12,759
Speaker 3: twenty three minutes past the hour. This is Fox Sports

1949
01:37:12,800 --> 01:37:16,519
Speaker 3: Sunday on Fox Sports Radio. Is Jeff Schwartz some Andy Furman.

1950
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1956
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Speaker 3: I want to continue if I can for a second

1957
01:37:34,520 --> 01:37:37,799
Speaker 3: with you, because you know better than anybody this the portal?

1958
01:37:37,920 --> 01:37:39,519
Speaker 3: How does it? We hear about it all the time.

1959
01:37:39,760 --> 01:37:41,840
Speaker 3: How does an athlete, say a football player and or

1960
01:37:42,320 --> 01:37:44,639
Speaker 3: ncaa basketball player. What does to do put his name

1961
01:37:44,640 --> 01:37:46,000
Speaker 3: in the portal? Could he take his name out of

1962
01:37:46,040 --> 01:37:48,000
Speaker 3: the portal? What the coaches doing? They get a list?

1963
01:37:48,040 --> 01:37:48,679
Speaker 3: How does it work?

1964
01:37:49,400 --> 01:37:54,479
Speaker 1: Oh man? Where to begin? So in football, let's talk

1965
01:37:54,479 --> 01:37:57,559
Speaker 1: about football. There's now a period you can enter your

1966
01:37:57,640 --> 01:38:00,400
Speaker 1: name in a portal. There's a winter period basically at

1967
01:38:00,400 --> 01:38:03,760
Speaker 1: the end of the season, and a spring period and

1968
01:38:05,120 --> 01:38:07,880
Speaker 1: at the end of those blocks. If your name isn't

1969
01:38:07,960 --> 01:38:09,479
Speaker 1: entering the portal, you're on your team. But if your

1970
01:38:09,520 --> 01:38:11,960
Speaker 1: name is entering the portal, you can be picked up

1971
01:38:11,960 --> 01:38:14,280
Speaker 1: at any time, anytime.

1972
01:38:14,320 --> 01:38:15,920
Speaker 3: And get a list of the portals.

1973
01:38:15,920 --> 01:38:18,439
Speaker 1: I guess yes. And they have the best staffs. Now

1974
01:38:18,520 --> 01:38:21,840
Speaker 1: have someone a general manager basically and a personnel guy

1975
01:38:22,120 --> 01:38:24,320
Speaker 1: director of the portal. Right, it's their job look to

1976
01:38:24,360 --> 01:38:28,439
Speaker 1: the portal. Now. The shady part and why coaches are

1977
01:38:28,520 --> 01:38:32,680
Speaker 1: upset is because players are not supposed to be contacted

1978
01:38:32,720 --> 01:38:34,320
Speaker 1: before they go in the portal. It happens all the

1979
01:38:34,360 --> 01:38:37,240
Speaker 1: time right. So you know there's a person again in

1980
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Speaker 1: personnel director in charge of the portal at schools and

1981
01:38:40,880 --> 01:38:46,760
Speaker 1: they're back channel and man, they're talking to high school coaches, parents, acquaintances. Hey,

1982
01:38:47,840 --> 01:38:50,559
Speaker 1: if you're gonna hit the portal, we're interested, right, I mean,

1983
01:38:50,680 --> 01:38:52,400
Speaker 1: how many times do we see someone enter the portal

1984
01:38:52,439 --> 01:38:54,720
Speaker 1: and two days later they have us a home? Right? Like,

1985
01:38:55,600 --> 01:38:58,800
Speaker 1: of course they know where they're going, most top most,

1986
01:38:58,880 --> 01:39:01,599
Speaker 1: top end up and players know where they're going when

1987
01:39:01,600 --> 01:39:05,400
Speaker 1: they enter the portal. Some have ideas, but most No,

1988
01:39:05,560 --> 01:39:08,720
Speaker 1: It's funny because when guys enter the portal, we have

1989
01:39:08,800 --> 01:39:12,439
Speaker 1: reports immediately. Oh us, he's the favorite. Organ is the favorite.

1990
01:39:14,320 --> 01:39:17,040
Speaker 3: I put my name on the portal, right, and I

1991
01:39:17,080 --> 01:39:18,720
Speaker 3: don't know where I'm going, And next thing I know,

1992
01:39:18,800 --> 01:39:20,640
Speaker 3: I guess there's a certain amount of time until I

1993
01:39:20,720 --> 01:39:23,120
Speaker 3: get picked one. No one calls my name. I'm out

1994
01:39:23,160 --> 01:39:24,759
Speaker 3: of a job. I'm in the portal.

1995
01:39:24,800 --> 01:39:28,200
Speaker 1: But yeah, you're gonna find well, you're gonna find a place,

1996
01:39:28,320 --> 01:39:30,080
Speaker 1: but it might not be the level you think it's

1997
01:39:30,120 --> 01:39:35,040
Speaker 1: gonna be. You might be FCS group of five. You're

1998
01:39:35,080 --> 01:39:38,799
Speaker 1: gonna if you're on a Power five roster, you're probably

1999
01:39:38,880 --> 01:39:41,760
Speaker 1: a decent recruit. And you'll find a home. It just

2000
01:39:41,880 --> 01:39:43,439
Speaker 1: might not be where you want it to be, right.

2001
01:39:43,560 --> 01:39:46,040
Speaker 1: It might be a level. If you're a power five kid,

2002
01:39:46,080 --> 01:39:48,320
Speaker 1: you go to a group of five, group of five kid,

2003
01:39:48,400 --> 01:39:52,240
Speaker 1: you go down to f CS f f CS Division one,

2004
01:39:52,280 --> 01:39:54,559
Speaker 1: double A what it used to be called. There's gonna

2005
01:39:54,600 --> 01:39:56,680
Speaker 1: be a spot for you. It's just not where you

2006
01:39:56,680 --> 01:39:57,360
Speaker 1: think it's gonna be.

2007
01:39:57,680 --> 01:39:59,280
Speaker 3: Can you remove your name from the portal? Once I

2008
01:39:59,320 --> 01:40:02,120
Speaker 3: put a sad look, I'm deciding yes you can stay yet.

2009
01:40:02,280 --> 01:40:04,960
Speaker 1: Yes, but a lot of times the team has moved

2010
01:40:05,000 --> 01:40:07,280
Speaker 1: on without you, so they filled your spot.

2011
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Speaker 3: H And the coach has actually got a players and say,

2012
01:40:10,200 --> 01:40:12,559
Speaker 3: I think it might be wise after the season that's

2013
01:40:12,640 --> 01:40:14,120
Speaker 3: over see, I think it might be wise if we

2014
01:40:14,160 --> 01:40:15,559
Speaker 3: put your name and if you put your name.

2015
01:40:16,439 --> 01:40:18,880
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they just straight up cut players. Now there's

2016
01:40:18,880 --> 01:40:22,439
Speaker 1: a article with Dian Sanders in Colorado, the Athletics saying like, yeah,

2017
01:40:22,479 --> 01:40:24,439
Speaker 1: we just told them they were being cut. They're start

2018
01:40:24,520 --> 01:40:26,360
Speaker 1: up cutting players, which again.

2019
01:40:26,280 --> 01:40:27,439
Speaker 3: He got you said I think would be a good

2020
01:40:27,439 --> 01:40:28,960
Speaker 3: idea for you to move on. I don't want to know.

2021
01:40:29,560 --> 01:40:31,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, but they have they have language where they were

2022
01:40:31,360 --> 01:40:33,639
Speaker 1: telling players like we're cutting you go see the coach,

2023
01:40:33,720 --> 01:40:37,800
Speaker 1: we're cutting you, which again is part of the system. Now,

2024
01:40:37,880 --> 01:40:41,000
Speaker 1: so what players wanted? You all wanted open transfer? What

2025
01:40:41,320 --> 01:40:43,800
Speaker 1: is what the system everyone wanted? Would know? With you

2026
01:40:43,840 --> 01:40:47,240
Speaker 1: know a man, Hey, more power of the players, Andy,

2027
01:40:47,760 --> 01:40:50,960
Speaker 1: more power of the players. It's so funny because when

2028
01:40:51,000 --> 01:40:53,760
Speaker 1: you talk to a lot of NFL veterans that weren't

2029
01:40:53,760 --> 01:40:56,439
Speaker 1: afforded the opportunity to transfer, right, that wasn't like part

2030
01:40:56,520 --> 01:40:58,680
Speaker 1: of our wasn't allowed. It wasn't allowed. You just say

2031
01:40:58,680 --> 01:41:03,200
Speaker 1: out a year, right. How many players have stories? I

2032
01:41:03,320 --> 01:41:06,840
Speaker 1: have my own story of of sticking it out at

2033
01:41:06,880 --> 01:41:10,439
Speaker 1: your school and and growing as a as a person.

2034
01:41:10,600 --> 01:41:14,599
Speaker 1: Is well, No, there were no thoughts you you didn't

2035
01:41:14,640 --> 01:41:18,160
Speaker 1: do it, Andy, Okay. My junior year in college, I

2036
01:41:18,360 --> 01:41:21,519
Speaker 1: played through a terrible back injury I had. I had

2037
01:41:21,600 --> 01:41:24,000
Speaker 1: a nerve issue in my back L four L five,

2038
01:41:25,280 --> 01:41:28,120
Speaker 1: and in training camp I had drop foot. So like

2039
01:41:28,280 --> 01:41:33,080
Speaker 1: my sometimes when your nerve gets so irritated in your back,

2040
01:41:33,240 --> 01:41:36,880
Speaker 1: your shin muscle stops working and you literally can't hold

2041
01:41:36,920 --> 01:41:39,320
Speaker 1: your foot up. So if you were to flex your

2042
01:41:39,360 --> 01:41:42,120
Speaker 1: foot up, it wouldn't work. It just would not move

2043
01:41:42,160 --> 01:41:44,719
Speaker 1: because your muscle's dead. It's not working. It's not firing.

2044
01:41:45,439 --> 01:41:47,160
Speaker 1: And so I had that early in training camp like that.

2045
01:41:47,439 --> 01:41:50,240
Speaker 1: To take my ankle, my trainer had to put his

2046
01:41:50,720 --> 01:41:53,799
Speaker 1: body on my ankle to put it up to be taped.

2047
01:41:54,040 --> 01:41:56,120
Speaker 1: My body, my leg would not hold my ankle up.

2048
01:41:56,120 --> 01:41:58,839
Speaker 1: I had a bad back. When you're young, you're stupid.

2049
01:41:58,920 --> 01:42:01,400
Speaker 1: You play through these injuries. I played really bad in

2050
01:42:01,439 --> 01:42:03,320
Speaker 1: my junior year in college. My Offen's a lot coach

2051
01:42:03,360 --> 01:42:05,840
Speaker 1: and I did not get along. It just wasn't good.

2052
01:42:06,720 --> 01:42:11,840
Speaker 1: I didn't play well. It wasn't a good thing. Now nowadays,

2053
01:42:12,880 --> 01:42:17,519
Speaker 1: that player my situation would transfer, but it wasn't an option.

2054
01:42:17,720 --> 01:42:21,160
Speaker 1: You didn't transfer. Got the back surgery that off season,

2055
01:42:21,800 --> 01:42:24,439
Speaker 1: and I decided that I'm going to have a better

2056
01:42:24,479 --> 01:42:28,120
Speaker 1: relationship with my offens, a line coach, and I talked

2057
01:42:28,160 --> 01:42:30,519
Speaker 1: to him almost every day after that. I would go

2058
01:42:30,560 --> 01:42:33,840
Speaker 1: into the building after a practice in spring ball and

2059
01:42:33,960 --> 01:42:37,160
Speaker 1: we practicing on in training camp. Hey, coach, tell me

2060
01:42:37,240 --> 01:42:39,320
Speaker 1: what I need to get better at today. Tell me

2061
01:42:39,400 --> 01:42:41,760
Speaker 1: what I have to do. And I became I learned

2062
01:42:41,760 --> 01:42:44,720
Speaker 1: how to communicate with my coaches better. I learned how

2063
01:42:44,760 --> 01:42:47,200
Speaker 1: to stand up for myself a little bit more. Even

2064
01:42:47,200 --> 01:42:50,120
Speaker 1: though I was okay with doing that, but I learned

2065
01:42:50,160 --> 01:42:53,519
Speaker 1: how to battle through this adversity where I wasn't playing

2066
01:42:53,560 --> 01:42:57,040
Speaker 1: good football, I wasn't helping my team win. My offens

2067
01:42:57,040 --> 01:42:59,040
Speaker 1: a line coach didn't really like me very much. He's

2068
01:42:59,080 --> 01:43:01,040
Speaker 1: a person, he liked me, but like as a play

2069
01:43:01,120 --> 01:43:02,680
Speaker 1: reader like me, I wasn't doing what I suposed doing

2070
01:43:02,720 --> 01:43:05,479
Speaker 1: the field, and I had to learn the next year

2071
01:43:06,280 --> 01:43:09,479
Speaker 1: how to rehab from injury, obviously to earn my spot

2072
01:43:09,600 --> 01:43:12,439
Speaker 1: back and the communicate my offensive line coach better and

2073
01:43:12,479 --> 01:43:14,160
Speaker 1: we end up having a good relationship. I played really

2074
01:43:14,200 --> 01:43:17,080
Speaker 1: well my senior year I got drafted. Like those things,

2075
01:43:17,200 --> 01:43:20,560
Speaker 1: I've became a better person and player fighting few of

2076
01:43:20,560 --> 01:43:25,760
Speaker 1: those at that adversity. Nowadays that player transfers, they go

2077
01:43:25,920 --> 01:43:28,679
Speaker 1: somewhere else to deal with that, and you hear stories

2078
01:43:28,680 --> 01:43:30,599
Speaker 1: from a lot of players that had to battle through

2079
01:43:30,640 --> 01:43:33,479
Speaker 1: these sort of You know, you're eighteen, nineteen, twenty years old,

2080
01:43:33,640 --> 01:43:36,960
Speaker 1: you're young. You're learning how to mature in a very

2081
01:43:37,120 --> 01:43:40,960
Speaker 1: high stressful environment with coaches that are trying to win

2082
01:43:41,120 --> 01:43:44,799
Speaker 1: now and they're single focused on that. Right now. Players

2083
01:43:44,800 --> 01:43:47,120
Speaker 1: don't do that now. They leave, they leave, and I

2084
01:43:47,160 --> 01:43:47,599
Speaker 1: don't think.

2085
01:43:47,520 --> 01:43:50,800
Speaker 3: They don't understand all of a sudden for years, if

2086
01:43:50,840 --> 01:43:53,280
Speaker 3: you went to transfer A, you have to sit out

2087
01:43:53,320 --> 01:43:57,000
Speaker 3: a year A. B. I still don't understand that it's

2088
01:43:57,000 --> 01:44:00,600
Speaker 3: still an institution of higher learning. You have credits at school, A,

2089
01:44:01,200 --> 01:44:04,040
Speaker 3: are they accepted at school B and so, And now

2090
01:44:04,080 --> 01:44:06,120
Speaker 3: it's all of a sudden, like, hey, how's the portal

2091
01:44:06,240 --> 01:44:08,720
Speaker 3: I'm going from college to college? B boom, I'm good,

2092
01:44:08,760 --> 01:44:09,000
Speaker 3: I'm in.

2093
01:44:09,280 --> 01:44:10,680
Speaker 1: I know we got get to update, but I'll give

2094
01:44:10,680 --> 01:44:18,960
Speaker 1: you what. So, schools are basically changing like transfer requirements

2095
01:44:19,040 --> 01:44:20,920
Speaker 1: to help out the student athletes to be able to

2096
01:44:20,960 --> 01:44:25,479
Speaker 1: transfer because you have to. So for example, again Colorado

2097
01:44:25,560 --> 01:44:29,080
Speaker 1: is one of these schools where Colorado had a very

2098
01:44:29,160 --> 01:44:33,599
Speaker 1: tough time accepting transfers because they didn't have what equates

2099
01:44:33,640 --> 01:44:37,519
Speaker 1: like a general studies major sort of right. And so

2100
01:44:38,680 --> 01:44:41,000
Speaker 1: if you're if you're you know, if you've already kind

2101
01:44:41,000 --> 01:44:43,280
Speaker 1: of started your major process to get your majors, you know,

2102
01:44:43,360 --> 01:44:46,200
Speaker 1: your major, to get your your degree in something, right,

2103
01:44:46,960 --> 01:44:50,320
Speaker 1: if you transfer to Colorado, you weren't getting into that

2104
01:44:50,360 --> 01:44:53,320
Speaker 1: pro So if you started a political science like major, right,

2105
01:44:53,360 --> 01:44:56,240
Speaker 1: you're down that track. It was hard to transfer to

2106
01:44:56,320 --> 01:44:59,400
Speaker 1: Colorado into the political science department. It just was like

2107
01:44:59,439 --> 01:45:01,880
Speaker 1: academic very hard to do. It wasn't like part of

2108
01:45:01,920 --> 01:45:02,640
Speaker 1: what they did, so.

2109
01:45:02,680 --> 01:45:03,799
Speaker 3: They lowered their standards.

2110
01:45:04,040 --> 01:45:06,600
Speaker 1: Well, they basically created a general studies program, so you

2111
01:45:06,640 --> 01:45:09,320
Speaker 1: transferred to that program, which a lot of schools have.

2112
01:45:09,600 --> 01:45:12,680
Speaker 1: They a lot of sorts have general studies, and they

2113
01:45:12,760 --> 01:45:15,479
Speaker 1: made it easier for transfers to come to Colorado. So

2114
01:45:15,640 --> 01:45:19,840
Speaker 1: schools have adjusted the way that they they operate to

2115
01:45:19,960 --> 01:45:22,559
Speaker 1: help out athletic departments because obviously that's very important to them.

2116
01:45:24,360 --> 01:45:30,280
Speaker 1: So that's that's how they've Again that's I'm not sure

2117
01:45:30,320 --> 01:45:35,840
Speaker 1: that's the exact verbiage that is used to describe what Colorados,

2118
01:45:35,840 --> 01:45:38,360
Speaker 1: but that's what, in essence, what Colorado has done. They

2119
01:45:38,479 --> 01:45:43,519
Speaker 1: created a major to help athletes transfer to their school.

2120
01:45:44,280 --> 01:45:46,280
Speaker 3: I'm so happy you clear this up because I was

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01:45:46,280 --> 01:45:49,080
Speaker 3: always wondering what the hell is this portal, how does

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01:45:49,120 --> 01:45:51,320
Speaker 3: it work, and what is it all about? And you

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01:45:51,560 --> 01:45:54,439
Speaker 3: kind of focused it in for me. I really appreciate it. Jeff,

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01:45:55,400 --> 01:45:55,960
Speaker 3: Now I know it is.

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01:45:56,040 --> 01:45:56,120
Speaker 5: I know.

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01:45:56,240 --> 01:45:59,160
Speaker 3: Jeff Schwartz, Andy Furman, Fox Sports on the Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 3: By the way, tell valuable is this thing? Anyway? That's next?

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01:46:03,600 --> 01:46:06,360
Speaker 3: But first to Kevin Wirrett, He's pretty valuable. He's got

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01:46:06,400 --> 01:46:07,160
Speaker 3: to all your sports.

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01:46:07,400 --> 01:46:10,439
Speaker 4: Well, I'd like to think I'm valuable at least. I

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01:46:10,439 --> 01:46:13,479
Speaker 4: don't think anyone tonight is as valuable as Derek White

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01:46:13,640 --> 01:46:17,120
Speaker 4: to the Celtics, because when we're talking, literally at the

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01:46:17,320 --> 01:46:20,320
Speaker 4: last millisecond before the buzzer sound at the end of

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01:46:20,360 --> 01:46:23,160
Speaker 4: the game, he put in a miss three point shot

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01:46:23,320 --> 01:46:25,760
Speaker 4: to win the game for the Celtics one oh four,

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01:46:25,920 --> 01:46:29,320
Speaker 4: one oh three to foce A Game seven, And you

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01:46:29,439 --> 01:46:31,559
Speaker 4: might think that the Heat would be dejected, But if

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01:46:31,680 --> 01:46:34,800
Speaker 4: Eric Spolster is any indication, they're fired up to play

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Speaker 4: right now.

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01:46:35,600 --> 01:46:37,720
Speaker 5: Look, this is the way this season's been. This is

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01:46:38,400 --> 01:46:41,599
Speaker 5: one hell of a series at this time right now.

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01:46:41,680 --> 01:46:43,519
Speaker 5: I don't know how we're gonna get this done, but

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01:46:43,600 --> 01:46:46,040
Speaker 5: we're gonna go up there and get it done. And

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01:46:46,160 --> 01:46:48,519
Speaker 5: that's what the next forty eight hours is about. We

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01:46:48,600 --> 01:46:51,360
Speaker 5: wish we could tip this thing off right now, right now.

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01:46:51,720 --> 01:46:54,400
Speaker 5: We want to tip this thing off and let's play another.

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01:46:54,200 --> 01:46:54,920
Speaker 1: Forty eight minutes.

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01:46:54,960 --> 01:46:57,680
Speaker 5: But we'll wait forty eight hours and uh and do

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01:46:57,800 --> 01:46:58,679
Speaker 5: the thing in Boston.

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01:46:59,240 --> 01:47:04,000
Speaker 4: Game seven at for Monday evening in Boston. Other NBA news,

2151
01:47:04,400 --> 01:47:08,040
Speaker 4: the Milwaukee Bucks set to hire Raptors assistant Adrian Griffin.

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01:47:08,080 --> 01:47:10,919
Speaker 4: That's according to multiple reports. He's also a former Milwaukee

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01:47:11,000 --> 01:47:15,759
Speaker 4: assistant coach. The NHL Western Conference Finals, the Dallas Stars

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01:47:15,840 --> 01:47:18,680
Speaker 4: win their second game in a row to force a

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01:47:18,840 --> 01:47:21,479
Speaker 4: game six. On Monday night, they beat the Golden Knights

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01:47:21,800 --> 01:47:23,760
Speaker 4: four to two. They were down three to nothing in

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01:47:23,800 --> 01:47:27,640
Speaker 4: the series before winning these two straight games, and Saturday's

2158
01:47:27,680 --> 01:47:30,280
Speaker 4: result means that the Stanley Cup Final will not start

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01:47:30,400 --> 01:47:35,400
Speaker 4: until next Saturday, with Florida guaranteed to begin on the road.

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01:47:36,200 --> 01:47:39,120
Speaker 4: In NASCAR, the Coca Cola six hundred set for Sunday

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01:47:39,160 --> 01:47:42,400
Speaker 4: at six o'clock Eastern on Fox. Practice and qualifying rained

2162
01:47:42,439 --> 01:47:47,879
Speaker 4: out on Saturday. The Xfinity Race postponed until Monday. In tennis,

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01:47:48,240 --> 01:47:52,080
Speaker 4: another gram Slam event, beginning the French Open, begins Sunday. However,

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01:47:52,240 --> 01:47:54,519
Speaker 4: the guy most synonymous with that tournament will not be

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Speaker 4: participating this year, Raphael Nadal, is out with an injured

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01:47:58,960 --> 01:48:02,320
Speaker 4: hip and course from Major League Baseball. On Saturday, Dodgers

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01:48:02,360 --> 01:48:05,080
Speaker 4: beat the Rays six ' five, Philly's over the Braves

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01:48:05,120 --> 01:48:08,200
Speaker 4: two to one. The Yankees outlast of the Padres in

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01:48:08,320 --> 01:48:11,559
Speaker 4: ten innings, three to two. The Padres had a dreadful

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Speaker 4: night at the play, going just three of thirty three.

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01:48:14,600 --> 01:48:17,040
Speaker 4: The Rangers beat the Baltimore Orioles five three. They're off

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01:48:17,080 --> 01:48:19,680
Speaker 4: to the best start in franchise history. The Twins out

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01:48:19,760 --> 01:48:22,680
Speaker 4: lastly Blue Jays nine to seven in the a's man,

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01:48:23,000 --> 01:48:26,840
Speaker 4: it's been an absolutely dreadful start. They've lost ten straight

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01:48:27,000 --> 01:48:30,040
Speaker 4: games and that includes their six to three loss of

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01:48:30,080 --> 01:48:31,879
Speaker 4: the Houston Astros on Saturday.

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Speaker 3: Back to you guys, Thank you, keV have a great day.

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Speaker 3: All right, now, guard this with your life. That's right

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Speaker 3: around the corner, and he is Jeff Schwartz. I'm Ad Furman.

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Speaker 3: dot Com. Now I'll ask you this because it's so

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01:48:58,280 --> 01:49:01,000
Speaker 3: interesting to get the perspective. I pulled back the curtain

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01:49:01,040 --> 01:49:03,120
Speaker 3: with Jeff Schwartz because he's been there and done that.

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01:49:03,479 --> 01:49:07,920
Speaker 3: How valuable is your NFL playbook? Tell me about that?

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01:49:09,080 --> 01:49:10,639
Speaker 1: Maybe? How valuable is everything?

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01:49:10,920 --> 01:49:13,120
Speaker 3: I mean, like it's like I mean, it's almost like

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01:49:13,200 --> 01:49:15,040
Speaker 3: stunting your life away when you get when you're given

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Speaker 3: one by the coaches.

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Speaker 1: Right, oh yeah, it's yeah, yeah, it's it's everything. It's

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01:49:19,240 --> 01:49:23,760
Speaker 1: everything that we that we uh that we do is

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01:49:23,960 --> 01:49:26,959
Speaker 1: uh is in the NFS in our playbook.

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Speaker 3: Well, I tell you the reason I bring that up

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01:49:29,479 --> 01:49:33,040
Speaker 3: because an suv that was being used by Pittsburgh Steel

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Speaker 3: as about Kenny Pickett, it was stolen and then recovered,

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Speaker 3: and so was the team's playbook in that stolen suv.

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01:49:39,880 --> 01:49:42,639
Speaker 3: So what happens if you lose or maybe even perhaps

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Speaker 3: sell that playbook. What happens then, well, you.

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01:49:47,960 --> 01:49:50,080
Speaker 1: Would never sell the playbook, but if you did, you'd

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01:49:50,160 --> 01:49:54,040
Speaker 1: be you'd be rated by arrest, you be cut immediately.

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01:49:54,360 --> 01:49:59,160
Speaker 1: Now knowing it's it's about it would be about knowing

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01:49:59,720 --> 01:50:04,439
Speaker 1: kind of the way they would specifically attack attack you

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01:50:04,520 --> 01:50:07,600
Speaker 1: as a team. You know, you know a lot of

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01:50:07,640 --> 01:50:09,680
Speaker 1: times what defense someone's gonna run or what you know,

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01:50:09,760 --> 01:50:12,000
Speaker 1: what their favorite offensive play is that the situation, and

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Speaker 1: what their favorite past concepts are. But it's a matter

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01:50:14,800 --> 01:50:19,120
Speaker 1: of how exactly are they going to attack you would

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01:50:19,120 --> 01:50:22,120
Speaker 1: a specific game if if you just grab someone's general playbook, right,

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01:50:22,120 --> 01:50:28,080
Speaker 1: if you steal the Steelers general playbook. Yeah, maybe helps

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01:50:28,080 --> 01:50:30,560
Speaker 1: you way, maybe it doesn't. I don't know that. But

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Speaker 1: if you if you took their playbook on a Wednesday

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01:50:32,600 --> 01:50:34,400
Speaker 1: of a game week and it laid out exactly how

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01:50:34,400 --> 01:50:37,559
Speaker 1: they're going to attack you when you get there defensive front,

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01:50:38,040 --> 01:50:42,799
Speaker 1: that's that. Yes, that matters. But stealing a playbook in general,

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01:50:42,960 --> 01:50:47,800
Speaker 1: like a general you know, ota playbook, Yeah, I don't

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01:50:47,800 --> 01:50:50,120
Speaker 1: know it would help teams win very much.

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01:50:50,479 --> 01:50:52,559
Speaker 3: But when when players get released to go from team

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01:50:52,600 --> 01:50:55,040
Speaker 3: to team, they can't take that playbook with them. That

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01:50:55,040 --> 01:50:57,639
Speaker 3: after we return that back to the coaching staff, right.

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01:50:57,680 --> 01:50:59,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can take your notebook with you, like I

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01:50:59,240 --> 01:51:03,120
Speaker 1: have all my notebooks when I played in my closet,

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01:51:03,160 --> 01:51:04,680
Speaker 1: I have like twenty of them. You can keep your

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01:51:04,720 --> 01:51:06,920
Speaker 1: notebooks in your notes. You just can't keep your playbook. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Is that worth anything?

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01:51:08,439 --> 01:51:08,760
Speaker 1: Right now?

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01:51:08,840 --> 01:51:10,760
Speaker 3: If you to go to an NFL club, that doesn't

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01:51:10,760 --> 01:51:12,559
Speaker 3: mean anything, does it? Those notebooks?

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01:51:12,920 --> 01:51:14,679
Speaker 1: No, No one cares, No one cares.

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Speaker 3: All right, The next question is this Jamison Williams. Williams

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01:51:18,439 --> 01:51:21,520
Speaker 3: and the Detroit Lion second year receiver. He was suspended

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01:51:21,800 --> 01:51:25,800
Speaker 3: for six games with violating the NFL's gambling policy, all right,

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01:51:26,920 --> 01:51:29,320
Speaker 3: and then he says that, look, this kid was the

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01:51:29,400 --> 01:51:31,439
Speaker 3: number twelve pick in the twenty twenty two draft. He

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01:51:31,560 --> 01:51:35,000
Speaker 3: says he wasn't aware of the policy beforehand. Was he

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01:51:35,080 --> 01:51:37,400
Speaker 3: living in a freaking cave? How do you not know

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01:51:37,760 --> 01:51:39,600
Speaker 3: about the gambling policy? Tell me?

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Speaker 1: Really, this is on him. So if you want to

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01:51:43,680 --> 01:51:48,759
Speaker 1: gamble a you should be the one as a player

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01:51:48,800 --> 01:51:51,160
Speaker 1: who knows the rules. Right. If you want to do

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01:51:51,280 --> 01:51:54,320
Speaker 1: this and you know there are signs in the locker

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01:51:54,360 --> 01:51:58,280
Speaker 1: room about gambling, do not gamble, right it's illegal, Like,

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01:51:58,600 --> 01:52:02,200
Speaker 1: obviously gambling the NFL is illegal. But if you want

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01:52:02,280 --> 01:52:05,920
Speaker 1: to gamble, knowing how it can affect your career if

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01:52:05,960 --> 01:52:09,000
Speaker 1: you get caught, you as a player should know exactly

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01:52:09,040 --> 01:52:12,200
Speaker 1: what your gambling policy is. It's absolutely on the player.

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Speaker 1: People argue, well, the team should let everyone know because

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Speaker 1: they don't want to lose the player in a suspension. Okay,

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01:52:18,400 --> 01:52:20,600
Speaker 1: the team has let people know right that. There are

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01:52:20,680 --> 01:52:24,080
Speaker 1: meetings about this many times over. There are meetings about

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01:52:24,120 --> 01:52:29,200
Speaker 1: what is illegal what's not. But again, NFL players are adults,

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01:52:29,840 --> 01:52:32,439
Speaker 1: like it's up to an adult themselves to make sure

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Speaker 1: they handle their own business. Like you cannot at all

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Speaker 1: in my opinion, blame the Lions for this, Like this

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01:52:39,360 --> 01:52:42,759
Speaker 1: is up to the player to understand what the policy

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01:52:42,960 --> 01:52:45,080
Speaker 1: is is not violated. I know people say, oh, the

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01:52:45,120 --> 01:52:47,519
Speaker 1: Lions should have told them. I'm sure they did. But again,

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Speaker 1: it's the player's career. Just like it's your job to

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01:52:51,439 --> 01:52:55,680
Speaker 1: train and eat and prepare and get your rest and

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01:52:55,800 --> 01:52:58,320
Speaker 1: learn your playbook, it's also your job to know the

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01:52:58,360 --> 01:53:00,559
Speaker 1: gambling policy because it can affect you in a negative

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01:53:00,560 --> 01:53:03,679
Speaker 1: way if you do it incorrectly. And so I blame

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01:53:03,720 --> 01:53:06,519
Speaker 1: the player here, absolutely by the player for not knowing this.

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Speaker 3: And I'll go on stuff further. I get it. I

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01:53:08,880 --> 01:53:12,320
Speaker 3: understand why if you have a player or any player gambling,

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01:53:12,560 --> 01:53:14,719
Speaker 3: say this kid Williams goes into the end zone, drops

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01:53:14,760 --> 01:53:16,840
Speaker 3: a pass of the end zone, and the Lions lose

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01:53:16,920 --> 01:53:18,680
Speaker 3: by six and the game is favorite six six and

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01:53:18,720 --> 01:53:21,320
Speaker 3: a half. Whatever it may be, it hurts the credibility

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01:53:21,400 --> 01:53:23,679
Speaker 3: of the game. However, on the other side of the coin,

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01:53:24,040 --> 01:53:27,040
Speaker 3: it's really hard to issue, in my mind, a on

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01:53:27,200 --> 01:53:30,559
Speaker 3: gambling policy when the league is based on gambling revenue.

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01:53:30,720 --> 01:53:32,360
Speaker 3: I mean, it's almost counterfeit.

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01:53:32,720 --> 01:53:34,360
Speaker 1: I don't think so. I don't know that. I mean,

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01:53:34,439 --> 01:53:38,720
Speaker 1: if if I think that's pretty easy to just to

2278
01:53:38,840 --> 01:53:41,960
Speaker 1: do that, like we can understand that. You're you know, like,

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01:53:42,400 --> 01:53:45,040
Speaker 1: are you can you? I guess that's not a great example,

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01:53:45,040 --> 01:53:48,080
Speaker 1: because drinking and driving hurts people, and gambling just it

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01:53:48,200 --> 01:53:50,600
Speaker 1: hurts an individual. I guess if you're but you know it,

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01:53:50,640 --> 01:53:54,599
Speaker 1: should you know, should you be allowed to? I mean,

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01:53:54,720 --> 01:53:56,880
Speaker 1: you know, the NFL, sponsored by a bunch of beer companies,

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01:53:56,920 --> 01:53:58,840
Speaker 1: should be allowed to drink and drive because they're sponsored

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01:53:58,840 --> 01:53:59,120
Speaker 1: by beer.

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01:53:59,360 --> 01:53:59,640
Speaker 4: I know.

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01:54:00,040 --> 01:54:02,000
Speaker 1: I think you can make I think you can. I

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01:54:02,040 --> 01:54:05,000
Speaker 1: think you can easily make the distinction of Hey, we're

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01:54:05,040 --> 01:54:07,160
Speaker 1: gonna take some gambling money by the way, part of

2290
01:54:07,160 --> 01:54:09,040
Speaker 1: the CBA, right, you're gonna see some of that money too.

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01:54:09,520 --> 01:54:11,720
Speaker 1: You just can't gamble in the NFL, Like how hard

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01:54:11,800 --> 01:54:15,600
Speaker 1: is that? Like I I used to play. I just

2293
01:54:15,920 --> 01:54:19,240
Speaker 1: I understand like this, how people from the locker room

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01:54:20,080 --> 01:54:22,040
Speaker 1: just don't gamble in the NFL. Just do it when

2295
01:54:22,040 --> 01:54:24,840
Speaker 1: you're done, Like, come on, man, like, just don't do it.

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01:54:25,400 --> 01:54:26,679
Speaker 1: We know not to do it, we're told.

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01:54:26,840 --> 01:54:29,600
Speaker 3: Still, if you can't gamble during the season, that's basically it.

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01:54:29,800 --> 01:54:31,960
Speaker 1: Right, No, you can't gamble in the NFL at all.

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01:54:32,520 --> 01:54:35,040
Speaker 1: You can gamble on other sports but you can't gamble

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Speaker 1: on those sports at the facility. Okay.

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01:54:37,520 --> 01:54:39,000
Speaker 3: So in other words, when the season's over, if I

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Speaker 3: want to bet on the NBA playoffs.

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01:54:41,160 --> 01:54:43,240
Speaker 1: I can gamble in college football all you want. You

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01:54:43,360 --> 01:54:45,360
Speaker 1: just can't do it while you're in the locker.

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01:54:45,200 --> 01:54:48,080
Speaker 3: Room, okay. And he was doing it in the Detroit Line.

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01:54:47,920 --> 01:54:50,720
Speaker 1: Facility or on a team bus. You can't do any

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01:54:50,920 --> 01:54:53,000
Speaker 1: any team like just do it your house, go in

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01:54:53,080 --> 01:54:54,800
Speaker 1: your car as you're driving home, and do it. Like,

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01:54:55,400 --> 01:54:57,120
Speaker 1: it's not that hard to gamble on.

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01:54:57,160 --> 01:55:00,320
Speaker 3: Other sports if you want to do it, right, I mean,

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01:55:00,360 --> 01:55:01,760
Speaker 3: you go do your phone. You just put it on

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01:55:01,840 --> 01:55:02,200
Speaker 3: your phone.

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01:55:02,240 --> 01:55:02,560
Speaker 1: There you go.

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Speaker 3: Jeff Schwartz, Andy Furman, Fox Sports Sunday, I'm Fox Sports.

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Speaker 1: Ready.

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Speaker 3: Now it's time to point your finger. It's the blame game,

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01:55:10,040 --> 01:55:12,560
Speaker 3: and it's next the blame Game coming right up. This

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01:55:12,760 --> 01:55:15,280
Speaker 3: is Fox Sports Sunday. He's Jeff Schwartz, I'm Athy Furman.

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01:55:15,440 --> 01:55:17,280
Speaker 3: But eleven minutes, not before the top of the hour.

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01:55:17,360 --> 01:55:19,400
Speaker 3: At the top of the hour, that would be nine

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01:55:19,480 --> 01:55:22,040
Speaker 3: am on the East coast. Dan Byer and Mike Harmon

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01:55:22,080 --> 01:55:24,280
Speaker 3: will join you right here on Fox Sports Radio, and

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01:55:24,360 --> 01:55:27,040
Speaker 3: we are live for the tiraq dot Com Studios. There's

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01:55:27,040 --> 01:55:29,360
Speaker 3: time to play the blame game. Let's do away.

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01:55:29,800 --> 01:55:30,640
Speaker 2: You ruin me.

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01:55:30,920 --> 01:55:33,760
Speaker 3: It's all your fault, No, it's your fault.

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01:55:33,920 --> 01:55:36,240
Speaker 1: What is all your fault? It is your fault.

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01:55:38,760 --> 01:55:42,480
Speaker 3: Maybe it's everyone's fault. Who knows he's a liar. That's

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01:55:42,560 --> 01:55:45,240
Speaker 3: why there's the blame game. The blame game. Let's figure

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Speaker 3: out who to blame. He's a liar, okay, and the

2331
01:55:48,200 --> 01:55:50,280
Speaker 3: man's sharing all the blame. That one and only. Hey,

2332
01:55:50,320 --> 01:55:51,680
Speaker 3: than Melon, what's up, biggie?

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01:55:51,880 --> 01:55:55,600
Speaker 6: All right, we're starting easy today, fellas. We're gonna go

2334
01:55:55,720 --> 01:55:58,000
Speaker 6: with who do you blame for the heat collapse? You've

2335
01:55:58,000 --> 01:55:59,800
Speaker 6: been talking about it all morning, but we'll just start

2336
01:55:59,840 --> 01:56:00,120
Speaker 6: with that.

2337
01:56:03,840 --> 01:56:06,280
Speaker 1: I don't know if I blame any of their defense

2338
01:56:06,360 --> 01:56:09,320
Speaker 1: I guess I don't know who I played blame really

2339
01:56:09,400 --> 01:56:12,160
Speaker 1: at I mean again, if you're told me that the

2340
01:56:12,240 --> 01:56:14,040
Speaker 1: series are three to three, it'd be like great for

2341
01:56:14,120 --> 01:56:16,360
Speaker 1: the heat. Obviously the way it's it's gone down, it's

2342
01:56:16,400 --> 01:56:19,400
Speaker 1: not great the way, But I mean, I guess Jimmy

2343
01:56:19,440 --> 01:56:22,360
Speaker 1: Butler's first forty two minutes last night would be maybe

2344
01:56:22,400 --> 01:56:24,120
Speaker 1: a way to blame, like if he's if he's better

2345
01:56:24,240 --> 01:56:25,240
Speaker 1: that he'd probably win.

2346
01:56:26,440 --> 01:56:29,920
Speaker 3: I think maybe the lack of consistent shooting is a blame.

2347
01:56:29,920 --> 01:56:31,880
Speaker 3: I don't think you could actually point the finger of

2348
01:56:31,960 --> 01:56:34,120
Speaker 3: one individual for the blame. I think it's a it's

2349
01:56:34,160 --> 01:56:37,760
Speaker 3: a team effort. They've they've had some problems shooting the basketball.

2350
01:56:37,880 --> 01:56:40,480
Speaker 3: Last night was I have been with the BAM and

2351
01:56:40,960 --> 01:56:43,480
Speaker 3: Jimmy with like nine to sixty seven. Whatever the heck

2352
01:56:43,520 --> 01:56:45,800
Speaker 3: it was over there. I mean, they couldn't throw the

2353
01:56:45,800 --> 01:56:48,200
Speaker 3: bowl in the ocean. So I think if the blame

2354
01:56:48,320 --> 01:56:51,280
Speaker 3: factor the lack of consistent shooting, that would be the answer.

2355
01:56:51,280 --> 01:56:54,040
Speaker 6: I would think, all right, good answers fellas here we go.

2356
01:56:54,480 --> 01:56:58,200
Speaker 6: Next is the Oakland. A's a lot of drama going

2357
01:56:58,240 --> 01:57:01,360
Speaker 6: on with them moving to Vague. Yes, obviously there's a

2358
01:57:01,360 --> 01:57:03,640
Speaker 6: lot of people to blame here. But who's the main

2359
01:57:05,160 --> 01:57:08,360
Speaker 6: person or people to blame for Oakland or the AIDS

2360
01:57:08,440 --> 01:57:10,000
Speaker 6: leaving Oakland going to Vegas.

2361
01:57:11,920 --> 01:57:14,520
Speaker 1: Well, the owner, I mean, the owner could buy pose

2362
01:57:14,560 --> 01:57:16,879
Speaker 1: on saying if you wanted to so, so it's ownership.

2363
01:57:17,760 --> 01:57:19,360
Speaker 3: Well, you know you could say ownership, And then why

2364
01:57:19,360 --> 01:57:21,120
Speaker 3: would the owner want to stick his hands in his pockets?

2365
01:57:21,120 --> 01:57:23,560
Speaker 3: Where other cities are gonna build a stadium for him,

2366
01:57:23,600 --> 01:57:24,720
Speaker 3: and it's been done in the cities.

2367
01:57:24,840 --> 01:57:27,160
Speaker 1: I'm just not going to blame the city.

2368
01:57:27,760 --> 01:57:30,040
Speaker 3: I blame city council. I'm not gonna blame that the

2369
01:57:30,400 --> 01:57:33,440
Speaker 3: government of Oakland. Ay, yeah, but they have to realize

2370
01:57:33,600 --> 01:57:37,320
Speaker 3: how important the sports franchise is economically for a city.

2371
01:57:37,480 --> 01:57:40,320
Speaker 3: It brings people in it, but it helps restaurants. It's

2372
01:57:40,360 --> 01:57:41,360
Speaker 3: a great situation.

2373
01:57:41,760 --> 01:57:44,440
Speaker 1: I get that. It's I just don't want to I'm

2374
01:57:44,480 --> 01:57:46,400
Speaker 1: not gonna blame the citizens of Oakland for that.

2375
01:57:46,520 --> 01:57:48,680
Speaker 3: Well, not the citizens, No, I won't blame them. I mean,

2376
01:57:48,960 --> 01:57:51,280
Speaker 3: but if I do, blame the mayor and the city

2377
01:57:51,320 --> 01:57:54,520
Speaker 3: county fix up that damn stadium. The place is like

2378
01:57:54,600 --> 01:57:56,879
Speaker 3: a dump. I've been out there to the Oakland Coliseum

2379
01:57:57,000 --> 01:57:58,840
Speaker 3: and that was a long time ago when the Reds

2380
01:57:58,840 --> 01:58:01,160
Speaker 3: won the World Series of Night. Had the play stunked in?

2381
01:58:01,880 --> 01:58:03,280
Speaker 1: Not great? Yeah, I'm with you.

2382
01:58:03,520 --> 01:58:06,520
Speaker 6: I agree, all right, Andy, tell us how you really feel.

2383
01:58:08,320 --> 01:58:09,040
Speaker 3: After this shows.

2384
01:58:10,000 --> 01:58:10,360
Speaker 1: All right.

2385
01:58:10,920 --> 01:58:15,440
Speaker 6: So obviously NBA super teams are you know, have been

2386
01:58:15,480 --> 01:58:16,960
Speaker 6: going on for the past decade.

2387
01:58:18,400 --> 01:58:19,920
Speaker 3: It's a lot of people don't like it.

2388
01:58:20,160 --> 01:58:22,200
Speaker 6: So I'm you know, if you can come up with

2389
01:58:22,240 --> 01:58:25,000
Speaker 6: a person who is the blame or who's the group

2390
01:58:25,120 --> 01:58:28,480
Speaker 6: to blame for the league turning into NBA super teams.

2391
01:58:30,520 --> 01:58:35,800
Speaker 1: I mean Lebroad I guess, Okay, I mean I but

2392
01:58:36,120 --> 01:58:37,720
Speaker 1: the Celtics were the first to do this, right the

2393
01:58:38,320 --> 01:58:42,440
Speaker 1: KG Ray Allen. So I guess that the original blame

2394
01:58:42,520 --> 01:58:46,040
Speaker 1: is is the Celtics. They did it first, you know.

2395
01:58:46,120 --> 01:58:50,080
Speaker 3: I I'm not so certain that this is something new.

2396
01:58:50,280 --> 01:58:52,760
Speaker 3: I think it's been publicized. Look, I grew up as

2397
01:58:52,800 --> 01:58:55,080
Speaker 3: a New York Knicks fan, and I thought that back

2398
01:58:55,160 --> 01:58:56,840
Speaker 3: in the when Red Holsen was coaching, they had a

2399
01:58:56,880 --> 01:58:59,680
Speaker 3: super team when Willis Street was it centered Bill Bradley

2400
01:58:59,680 --> 01:59:01,880
Speaker 3: and Dave A. Bush and then you know, uh.

2401
01:59:04,320 --> 01:59:05,520
Speaker 1: Draft all of them together.

2402
01:59:05,920 --> 01:59:09,000
Speaker 3: Trading for I mean the free agency situation. Yeah, I

2403
01:59:09,000 --> 01:59:12,200
Speaker 3: guess Lebron started it when he left Cleveland went to Miami,

2404
01:59:12,400 --> 01:59:15,160
Speaker 3: and I don't think and then Kevin Durant went to

2405
01:59:15,320 --> 01:59:18,160
Speaker 3: the Golden State. So I mean, and they were a

2406
01:59:18,240 --> 01:59:21,200
Speaker 3: super team before Kevin Durant went the Golden State.

2407
01:59:21,280 --> 01:59:23,840
Speaker 1: That the Durant won is it's not a Turnasi's legacy,

2408
01:59:23,960 --> 01:59:26,480
Speaker 1: but like it's it looks of going back on it,

2409
01:59:26,720 --> 01:59:28,120
Speaker 1: like just.

2410
01:59:28,720 --> 01:59:29,760
Speaker 3: They would have won without him.

2411
01:59:30,360 --> 01:59:33,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's. Yeah, I don't think people were going

2412
01:59:33,600 --> 01:59:35,760
Speaker 1: to look at that quite as fair bles as what

2413
01:59:35,920 --> 01:59:37,640
Speaker 1: Lebron did in Miami, right.

2414
01:59:38,520 --> 01:59:40,480
Speaker 3: I don't think there's anything wrong with it, really, I mean,

2415
01:59:40,840 --> 01:59:43,760
Speaker 3: it's it's legal. I mean what I can't stand worse

2416
01:59:43,800 --> 01:59:45,720
Speaker 3: than that is this portal thing that you got me

2417
01:59:45,760 --> 01:59:48,360
Speaker 3: started on earlier today, Jeff, I think it's terrible. I

2418
01:59:48,440 --> 01:59:50,200
Speaker 3: really do. I don't like the portal little.

2419
01:59:51,520 --> 01:59:54,800
Speaker 1: I mean I I covered every day, man, It's it's

2420
01:59:54,960 --> 01:59:56,800
Speaker 1: never fun to cover either, I bet.

2421
01:59:57,040 --> 01:59:57,240
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2422
01:59:58,480 --> 02:00:00,880
Speaker 6: All right, next, come on, actually gonna say, since you

2423
02:00:00,960 --> 02:00:03,160
Speaker 6: guys talked about in the last segment, who's the blame

2424
02:00:03,680 --> 02:00:08,320
Speaker 6: for the inconsistency in the college transport transfer portal?

2425
02:00:08,960 --> 02:00:12,880
Speaker 1: It's everyone who It's everyone who calls I guess double

2426
02:00:12,960 --> 02:00:13,800
Speaker 1: A they created.

2427
02:00:13,920 --> 02:00:14,920
Speaker 3: So there you go, all right,