WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: What's the Holdup? 0:00:07.080 --> 0:00:09.640 The following here's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:09.680 --> 0:00:21.800 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Are you ready for 0:00:21.840 --> 0:00:25.520 a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely 0:00:25.640 --> 0:00:29.840 ready for a break. Yeah, and so much for that. 0:00:30.080 --> 0:00:34.160 It's time for the Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com. 0:00:34.320 --> 0:00:40.320 Were with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and 0:00:40.680 --> 0:00:48.720 Derek Eagleton. Twenty seven, two thousand twenty, Season sixteen, Episode eleven. 0:00:48.840 --> 0:00:52.040 Welcome to another edition of The Break. We're live from 0:00:52.080 --> 0:00:55.480 the Virgil s WBC Mortgage Studios in our homes. I 0:00:55.560 --> 0:00:58.960 got my normal crew here, NICKI, minniebl Garcia, Dave Hellman, 0:00:59.000 --> 0:01:01.880 and we got a special us today one Todd Archer, 0:01:02.440 --> 0:01:05.520 ESPN staff rider who's covered to Cowboys since two thousand 0:01:05.560 --> 0:01:08.920 and three, long time friend of the program. And Todd, 0:01:08.920 --> 0:01:12.119 we appreciate you joining us today. How's everything going. Thanks 0:01:12.120 --> 0:01:15.320 for finally having me on. I really really feel special. Finally. 0:01:16.560 --> 0:01:18.800 I've asked Nick time and time again he's always shot 0:01:18.800 --> 0:01:23.080 me down to talk about that. I mean, is that 0:01:23.200 --> 0:01:25.399 like a go to line? That's what Darren Whitson said 0:01:25.480 --> 0:01:30.680 last week. A Well, everybody's blaming Yeah, everybody's blaming Nick. 0:01:30.840 --> 0:01:32.360 And of course with those of you that don't know, 0:01:32.720 --> 0:01:37.880 Todd is also the father of Dave Hellman, so he 0:01:38.040 --> 0:01:42.080 joined dad. You know Dad, Yeah, there's always disappointment in life. 0:01:44.480 --> 0:01:47.800 Very fair, let's joke right in, Todd Um. I just 0:01:47.800 --> 0:01:50.480 want to start by getting your general thoughts on where 0:01:50.480 --> 0:01:53.880 the Cowboys stand now after most of the free agency 0:01:53.920 --> 0:01:56.400 has been done at this point, and after what most 0:01:56.400 --> 0:01:58.320 people consider to be a pretty good draft. What do 0:01:58.360 --> 0:02:00.880 you think they stand as a team from from a 0:02:00.880 --> 0:02:04.240 personnel standpoint? Now you go back to win fran agency started, 0:02:04.280 --> 0:02:06.960 and it happens every year when the Cowboys don't do 0:02:07.000 --> 0:02:11.000 anything and it's the sky's falling. They're losing everybody Byron 0:02:11.120 --> 0:02:14.400 Jones has gone, Quinn has gone. All these guys are leaving, 0:02:14.600 --> 0:02:15.880 and bell of a sudden, you look up at the 0:02:15.960 --> 0:02:18.840 end of them and you're like, huh, this wasn't bad. 0:02:19.120 --> 0:02:22.280 And they were pretty good financially with these deals GERYLD McCoy, 0:02:22.360 --> 0:02:25.680 don Terry poh, Clinton Dix, the corners that they brought in, 0:02:25.760 --> 0:02:28.880 the guys that they kept, Amari Cooper, and obviously dak 0:02:28.880 --> 0:02:31.640 on the franchise tag. So then you add in the draft. 0:02:31.680 --> 0:02:34.760 So I look at the Cowboys and I say there's 0:02:34.800 --> 0:02:37.400 still a team or the team to beat in the 0:02:37.480 --> 0:02:40.839 NFC East. I'll let Philly hold the team to beat 0:02:40.880 --> 0:02:44.120 because they won it last year. But I don't think 0:02:44.160 --> 0:02:47.560 there's any surprise that people would say it's the Eagles 0:02:47.560 --> 0:02:49.640 and the Cowboys and the other two teams in the division. 0:02:49.880 --> 0:02:52.359 And if you're getting the tournament as Parcels like to say, 0:02:52.520 --> 0:02:54.560 it's anybody's game. And you add a new coach with 0:02:54.680 --> 0:02:56.440 Mike McCarthy, a guy who had skins in the wall, 0:02:56.720 --> 0:02:58.840 this has been one of the better Cowboys offseasons in 0:02:58.919 --> 0:03:02.640 my view. It's interesting you mentioned Dak Prescott, and one 0:03:02.639 --> 0:03:04.120 of the reasons we wanted to have you on is 0:03:04.120 --> 0:03:06.640 because I know you've been locked in on that whole 0:03:06.680 --> 0:03:08.880 thing going on. Tell us right now, what's the current 0:03:08.960 --> 0:03:11.720 status as you know it with regards to the contract 0:03:11.760 --> 0:03:16.360 negotiations between the Cowboys and Decks people. The current status 0:03:16.440 --> 0:03:18.880 is that Dak is closer to an extension that Hellman 0:03:19.000 --> 0:03:21.919 is ever going to be to sign an extension with y'all. 0:03:23.520 --> 0:03:29.880 It's far greater money, but that's true, but there's really 0:03:29.919 --> 0:03:31.560 not a hike of a lot going on right now. 0:03:31.639 --> 0:03:34.560 And the longer that it's and that kind of surprises me. 0:03:34.600 --> 0:03:37.520 I thought after the draft they would have gotten after 0:03:37.560 --> 0:03:40.920 this just because look where we are right now. We're 0:03:40.960 --> 0:03:43.680 all at home, we're not at an Ota, and there's 0:03:43.680 --> 0:03:45.520 nothing going on on the field. I thought that they 0:03:45.600 --> 0:03:48.000 might have been a little more proactive and trying to 0:03:48.000 --> 0:03:50.800 get this thing done before the July fifteenth deadline. But 0:03:51.080 --> 0:03:52.720 I think right now, if you had to ask me, 0:03:53.160 --> 0:03:56.080 this is getting down to what it was with Dez 0:03:56.160 --> 0:03:58.480 Bryant in twenty fifteen. It's going to come down to 0:03:58.560 --> 0:04:01.600 that three o'clock to deadline on je fifteenth. Ultimately, I 0:04:01.600 --> 0:04:04.360 think he signs a contract. But there's really not been 0:04:04.400 --> 0:04:06.680 a lot of back and forth between these guys honestly 0:04:06.680 --> 0:04:10.120 since the end of March, and people will shake their 0:04:10.120 --> 0:04:12.200 head and say, well, why are the Cowboys doing it 0:04:12.240 --> 0:04:15.560 this way? Well, there's two sides on this thing too 0:04:15.600 --> 0:04:18.800 that people don't seem to want to acknowledge as to 0:04:18.880 --> 0:04:22.919 why a deal hasn't done yet. Sod you wrote that 0:04:23.440 --> 0:04:27.400 article maybe last week, and what was one of the 0:04:27.839 --> 0:04:30.719 main reasons why you decided to do that. Did you 0:04:30.760 --> 0:04:34.240 maybe get new information or did we just tired of 0:04:34.320 --> 0:04:36.640 hearing some of the noise that was you know, kind 0:04:36.640 --> 0:04:39.839 of the false narrative that was going on around this deal. Yeah, 0:04:40.800 --> 0:04:45.440 mainly the false narrative stuff and just everything that's been created, 0:04:45.480 --> 0:04:47.240 the drama around it, And I think some of it 0:04:47.320 --> 0:04:50.640 is a result of not having any sports on TV. 0:04:50.720 --> 0:04:53.960 There's no baseball, there's no basketball playoffs, there's no hockey playoffs. 0:04:53.960 --> 0:04:56.640 So you know, back in the Cowboys was always going 0:04:56.680 --> 0:05:00.479 to generate headlines. But now it's just kind of become 0:05:00.560 --> 0:05:05.440 sublime of Dak's awful, DA's great dad, can't throw a pass, 0:05:05.440 --> 0:05:07.200 he's one of the most accurate guys in the game. 0:05:07.520 --> 0:05:10.160 The Cowboys waited too long to sign him, the Cowboys 0:05:10.720 --> 0:05:12.640 want him to take less, all these things. It just 0:05:12.720 --> 0:05:15.279 kind of got me to say, all right, enough, already, 0:05:15.400 --> 0:05:17.719 what's out there that we know of that's true, and 0:05:17.839 --> 0:05:20.679 what we know that's out there that's not true, And 0:05:21.640 --> 0:05:24.800 that's where the genesis of the idea came from, to 0:05:25.040 --> 0:05:31.039 kind of put everything into perspective. I do have a 0:05:31.160 --> 0:05:34.520 question for you, Todd. It has nothing to do with Dak. 0:05:35.040 --> 0:05:39.799 I know that you have a good relationship with Jason Wooten. Obviously, 0:05:39.839 --> 0:05:43.680 after we heard that he wasn't coming back to the Cowboys, 0:05:43.680 --> 0:05:46.279 we haven't necessarily gotten a chance to talk to him 0:05:46.720 --> 0:05:49.599 or hear much from him his side of the story 0:05:49.640 --> 0:05:52.040 of kind of how things went down. I wanted to 0:05:52.080 --> 0:05:54.839 know if you have had any conversations with him and 0:05:54.960 --> 0:05:58.440 kind of get his side of things and how everything 0:05:58.520 --> 0:06:02.200 went with Mike macarthy coming in, and how those conversations 0:06:02.279 --> 0:06:05.400 went between both parties. I've talked to him only a 0:06:05.400 --> 0:06:07.839 little bit. I think with this pandemic, he's really not 0:06:07.920 --> 0:06:11.040 been in town all of that much, even if he's 0:06:11.040 --> 0:06:14.080 selling his nice house at the moment, but not moving 0:06:14.080 --> 0:06:17.960 to Vegas. He's just moving up the street basically from 0:06:17.960 --> 0:06:20.800 where he lives. But I think at the end of 0:06:20.800 --> 0:06:22.640 the year, the way he was talking to us, and 0:06:23.480 --> 0:06:25.200 you guys remember what he was like in the locker room, 0:06:25.200 --> 0:06:27.560 it seemed to think he would be on the coaching 0:06:27.600 --> 0:06:31.239 staff in some role in twenty twenty, and then when 0:06:31.279 --> 0:06:34.280 Mike McCarthy came in, things kind of changed, and then 0:06:34.320 --> 0:06:37.920 he thought about playing again, And I don't know if 0:06:37.960 --> 0:06:41.400 he was in Mike McCarthy's plans to want to continue 0:06:41.440 --> 0:06:44.600 down this road again and play another season. So that's 0:06:44.920 --> 0:06:47.560 and you think of McCarthy. He's had guys like Donald 0:06:47.640 --> 0:06:49.440 Driver at the end of his time in Green Bay. 0:06:49.480 --> 0:06:53.039 Brett Favre obviously in Green Bay as well, so he 0:06:53.200 --> 0:06:57.320 probably just said, you know what, not totally like what 0:06:57.400 --> 0:07:00.279 it was when Parcels and Emmett had their on a 0:07:00.320 --> 0:07:02.440 deal back when Bill came in and oh three, but 0:07:02.600 --> 0:07:05.560 similar to that, and Jason in his mind said, Okay, well, 0:07:05.560 --> 0:07:07.440 I want to go play somewhere else and let's see 0:07:07.440 --> 0:07:10.280 what it's like. And the Raiders became a viable option. 0:07:10.520 --> 0:07:12.520 And I know he's excited to work with John Bruden 0:07:12.840 --> 0:07:14.960 and see what that offense is like after being in 0:07:15.000 --> 0:07:18.960 basically the same system since two thousand and seven. But 0:07:20.160 --> 0:07:23.520 I'm surprised that he's not coaching on the Cowboys. I 0:07:23.920 --> 0:07:26.920 thought Jerry might have put his foot or put his 0:07:26.960 --> 0:07:28.520 hand up and say no, Mike, he's gonna be on 0:07:28.560 --> 0:07:30.960 your staff. But he didn't. And then, you know, kudos 0:07:31.000 --> 0:07:33.600 for Jerry for not doing what everybody thinks he does 0:07:33.880 --> 0:07:38.920 and just Bigfoot and everybody in these situations. All right, Coops, 0:07:39.000 --> 0:07:41.800 I got a two power for you. And obviously it's 0:07:41.800 --> 0:07:44.560 gonna be about Dak because we've talked more about that 0:07:44.680 --> 0:07:49.040 over the last three years than anything. Number One, I 0:07:49.120 --> 0:07:50.720 agree with you I think this is going to come 0:07:50.720 --> 0:07:53.040 down to July fifteenth. I don't see any reason why 0:07:53.120 --> 0:07:56.440 would get done ahead of time at this point. If 0:07:56.480 --> 0:07:59.000 that is to happen, if Dad does getna deal before 0:07:59.200 --> 0:08:02.120 the deadline, which of the two sides is going to 0:08:02.200 --> 0:08:05.080 have to conceive more to get it done and then 0:08:05.120 --> 0:08:09.280 the other one? Why is this in your opinion, at 0:08:09.360 --> 0:08:11.360 least over your years covering the team, Why is this 0:08:11.400 --> 0:08:14.800 a consistent theme with the Cowboys? And it is typically 0:08:14.960 --> 0:08:19.040 a deadline day sort of situation? You know, I don't 0:08:19.160 --> 0:08:20.880 on the last part. I don't know if that specific 0:08:20.920 --> 0:08:24.560 to the Cowboys necessarily that deadlines make deals. There's a 0:08:24.560 --> 0:08:26.120 lot of people, a lot of teams that have that, 0:08:26.320 --> 0:08:28.400 but we're obviously more in tune with the Cowboys. Now 0:08:28.720 --> 0:08:30.880 you can say, well, Carson Wentz got his deal done 0:08:30.880 --> 0:08:34.720 and Jared Goff then got his deal done. But I 0:08:34.880 --> 0:08:40.440 just view this as partially betting on himself to the 0:08:40.559 --> 0:08:44.280 very end and arguably winning. I mean, he was staring 0:08:44.360 --> 0:08:47.920 last year on the season opener at thirty three million 0:08:47.920 --> 0:08:50.640 dollars a year and about ninety ninety five million dollars 0:08:50.960 --> 0:08:53.520 guaranteed to him, and he said, no, I'm going to 0:08:53.600 --> 0:08:56.079 play on two million bucks? Raise your hand if any 0:08:56.080 --> 0:08:59.880 of us would have done that, heck no, but good 0:08:59.880 --> 0:09:01.720 to him, and he's done it, and now he's gonna 0:09:01.760 --> 0:09:04.840 you know, look, what is the ultimate price that it's 0:09:04.880 --> 0:09:08.160 gonna get up to. I mean from what we've been told, 0:09:08.320 --> 0:09:10.080 it's thirty four and a half million a year, and 0:09:10.160 --> 0:09:12.720 his and his guarantee is upward on par with what 0:09:12.840 --> 0:09:14.679 Jared Goff got from the Rams about one hundred and 0:09:14.720 --> 0:09:19.880 ten million. So did that did that buy him an 0:09:19.880 --> 0:09:23.800 extra couple what would that be? None? If fifteen million bucks? 0:09:24.480 --> 0:09:27.840 You know over a deal? Maybe maybe it has. But 0:09:27.880 --> 0:09:31.040 I think that the ultimate sticking point is going to 0:09:31.120 --> 0:09:32.920 be on the years of this thing. Is it five? 0:09:33.040 --> 0:09:36.600 Is it four? And who's going to cave? I mean 0:09:36.720 --> 0:09:39.000 history tells you it's the cowboys, because they seemed to 0:09:39.040 --> 0:09:41.040 cave a little bit on z. It seemed to cave 0:09:41.080 --> 0:09:44.680 a little bit on DeMarcus Lawrence. But I go back 0:09:44.679 --> 0:09:46.720 to if both sides want to get this deal done, 0:09:47.480 --> 0:09:51.640 just sit down and get it done. And I think 0:09:51.720 --> 0:09:54.719 Dak's greatest trade is awareness. I've told you guys that 0:09:54.840 --> 0:09:58.160 many times. And I think even if he were to 0:09:58.200 --> 0:10:02.280 take thirty five point one million and become the highest 0:10:02.280 --> 0:10:04.640 paid quarterback. Theory, people would say, man, what a great guy. 0:10:04.679 --> 0:10:06.560 Each other less to stay with the Cowboys, and that 0:10:06.559 --> 0:10:08.720 would earn him so much credit because as soon as 0:10:08.440 --> 0:10:11.880 he signs his contract, he's no longer this fourth round 0:10:11.960 --> 0:10:15.200 pick that everybody enjoyed. What a great find. It's now 0:10:15.480 --> 0:10:17.200 all right, man, you better win some super Bowls. The 0:10:17.240 --> 0:10:19.040 same thing happened in Romo after you got his big 0:10:19.040 --> 0:10:22.599 deal in two thousand and seven. You mentioned that the 0:10:23.200 --> 0:10:25.760 four or five years it could get out one one 0:10:25.840 --> 0:10:28.719 or the other. Tell the fans out there why that's 0:10:28.760 --> 0:10:31.760 so important, Why four years would presumably be so important 0:10:31.760 --> 0:10:33.800 to Dak and why five years would be so important 0:10:33.840 --> 0:10:36.920 to the Cowboys, Because most fans probably look at it say, okay, whatever, 0:10:37.000 --> 0:10:39.360 four or five doesn't matter, But why is that so 0:10:39.400 --> 0:10:42.040 important to each too? I guess string this thing out 0:10:42.040 --> 0:10:44.360 to try to get the number of years that they want. Yeah, 0:10:44.480 --> 0:10:46.640 while on Dak's end of it is four years. The 0:10:46.720 --> 0:10:48.520 TV deals are all starting to come up, and if 0:10:48.559 --> 0:10:51.280 we if these things are gonna be as pricey as 0:10:51.280 --> 0:10:54.240 we think they're gonna be. Although the pandemic might change 0:10:54.280 --> 0:10:58.000 the narrative a little bit, maybe on what they could be. 0:10:59.240 --> 0:11:00.920 You want to get out of free agency as soon 0:11:00.960 --> 0:11:03.760 as possible, So a four year deal, sure, I mean 0:11:03.920 --> 0:11:06.600 initially they were looking at three, but they've come to four. 0:11:06.679 --> 0:11:09.040 The Cowboys have been a six year deal and they've 0:11:09.040 --> 0:11:11.120 come to five. From the Cowboys perspective, why you won 0:11:11.240 --> 0:11:14.440 five is helps with the salary cap in terms of 0:11:14.440 --> 0:11:17.240 lowering the number, especially in the first year, spreading out 0:11:17.280 --> 0:11:21.440 that bonus through the years, and you don't want to 0:11:21.480 --> 0:11:25.199 start going through this again in after two years. Right, 0:11:25.240 --> 0:11:27.439 if it's four years, we're going to say, when do 0:11:27.520 --> 0:11:29.640 they start looking at DAC again? When do they start 0:11:29.679 --> 0:11:31.960 looking at his contract? The more that you can push 0:11:32.000 --> 0:11:35.360 this thing out and have some certainty at the position 0:11:35.400 --> 0:11:37.559 that he's going to be there, that's why the Cowboys 0:11:37.600 --> 0:11:39.960 won five. But Dak wants to four. I don't want 0:11:39.960 --> 0:11:42.440 to even say that his agent wants the four to 0:11:42.480 --> 0:11:44.800 have the ability to go out there and cash in again. 0:11:44.880 --> 0:11:47.880 I will say, we all remember Romo signed his deal 0:11:47.880 --> 0:11:51.120 in twenty thirteen. I think he was thirty three or 0:11:51.200 --> 0:11:54.400 four years old. Well, DA's only gonna be what thirty 0:11:54.400 --> 0:11:57.000 one at the end of a five year deal, thirty 0:11:57.040 --> 0:12:00.600 one thirty two? The cowboys are shown if you play well, 0:12:00.960 --> 0:12:02.880 they're gonna pay you, regardless of how old you are. 0:12:04.600 --> 0:12:07.120 Let's dive into that article. Nick mentioned that article a 0:12:07.160 --> 0:12:09.120 little earlier that you wrote, and I thought it was 0:12:09.160 --> 0:12:12.000 an interesting article. It was called Dispelling the Theories, and 0:12:12.040 --> 0:12:13.599 there were a number of theories that you kind of 0:12:13.640 --> 0:12:16.000 went through there talking about different things that people are 0:12:16.080 --> 0:12:19.080 saying just out in the basically the Twitter sphere where 0:12:19.400 --> 0:12:21.360 it can be a gut or at times. But you 0:12:21.400 --> 0:12:23.319 know what some of the things that people were talking 0:12:23.320 --> 0:12:26.920 about as too, you know, things around the dak contract. 0:12:27.040 --> 0:12:28.480 So I'm gonna throw a few of them out to you, 0:12:28.559 --> 0:12:30.679 and I want you to explain to me the basis 0:12:30.720 --> 0:12:33.200 for the theory and then your verdict on how you 0:12:33.240 --> 0:12:36.520 see it, whether it's important, whether it's true, how much 0:12:36.520 --> 0:12:38.480 he really factors in. Let's start up the first one. 0:12:38.720 --> 0:12:41.880 You said Dallas waited too long to try to sign Prescott. 0:12:43.120 --> 0:12:45.360 I don't think that's true, because as soon as they 0:12:45.360 --> 0:12:48.200 were able to sign him after his third year, they tried. 0:12:48.520 --> 0:12:52.000 They were in that offseason of twenty nineteen, the first 0:12:52.000 --> 0:12:54.520 time that can come at him, and they tried to 0:12:54.520 --> 0:12:57.079 get a deal done, and again we got to September 0:12:57.400 --> 0:13:00.520 where Jerry kind of hinted, we're close on this thing. 0:13:00.800 --> 0:13:03.400 Then we found out later that, okay, here were the numbers, 0:13:03.440 --> 0:13:06.319 and this is It seemed close at the time. So 0:13:07.360 --> 0:13:09.760 you know, as Steven Jones like to say, two sides, 0:13:10.240 --> 0:13:11.839 you can only make a deal when both sides want 0:13:11.880 --> 0:13:14.040 to make a deal. I think the Cowboys thought they 0:13:14.040 --> 0:13:16.840 were getting to that point in last September, but they didn't. 0:13:16.840 --> 0:13:19.520 So the fact that the Cowboys waited too long when 0:13:19.520 --> 0:13:21.360 they made him an offer that was greater than Wentz 0:13:21.400 --> 0:13:24.160 an average per year, and you can argue that their 0:13:24.160 --> 0:13:28.000 guarantee is greater than what Wentz and Golf got based 0:13:28.040 --> 0:13:30.200 on the money those guys are already guaranteed as the 0:13:30.240 --> 0:13:32.280 top two picks, that they put a fair offer on 0:13:32.320 --> 0:13:34.760 the table. I think they've been fair. Maybe they could 0:13:34.760 --> 0:13:39.080 have started a little higher to get the process rolling 0:13:39.080 --> 0:13:41.240 a little bit, but I don't. You can't say they 0:13:41.240 --> 0:13:42.719 waited too long when they made him an offer that 0:13:42.720 --> 0:13:46.240 would have made him the fourth highest paid quarterback in 0:13:46.240 --> 0:13:51.160 the game. The second Cowboys want Prescott to settle for less. 0:13:52.960 --> 0:13:56.200 Kind of again, the numbers we threw around a second ago, 0:13:56.240 --> 0:13:58.480 thirty four and a half million Bucks. That's the number 0:13:58.480 --> 0:14:00.840 two quarterback in the league Russells and makes thirty five 0:14:01.120 --> 0:14:03.800 hundred and ten million guaranteed, makes him the highest, tied 0:14:03.840 --> 0:14:06.400 for the highest with GoF So if they want him 0:14:06.400 --> 0:14:08.080 to settle for less, they're not doing a good job 0:14:08.080 --> 0:14:11.240 of actually having him settle for less when you've offered 0:14:11.240 --> 0:14:13.840 the number one in terms of average or number two 0:14:13.840 --> 0:14:16.880 in average per year, and number one in potential guarantee. 0:14:16.960 --> 0:14:19.240 So now we don't know the structures of all these 0:14:19.240 --> 0:14:22.120 things and the payouts and the fermals and when the 0:14:22.200 --> 0:14:25.320 money becomes fully guaranteed and all that stuff. So I'm 0:14:25.360 --> 0:14:27.000 sure there's other things that we don't know, but just 0:14:27.040 --> 0:14:30.200 on the base of it, when you've offered the guy 0:14:30.200 --> 0:14:33.400 who's won one playoff game that kind of contract, you're 0:14:33.400 --> 0:14:35.200 not you're not asking him to take less. She just 0:14:35.280 --> 0:14:39.720 not asked him. Don't take everything. In the final Prescott 0:14:39.760 --> 0:14:43.360 should realize how much he makes off the field, and 0:14:43.480 --> 0:14:47.760 he does, but that's not his fault, and the Cowboys 0:14:47.800 --> 0:14:50.480 shouldn't use that in my view, as a way to 0:14:51.000 --> 0:14:54.480 get him to settle for less. You know, and I'm 0:14:54.480 --> 0:14:56.760 not one of these guys to say, well, the Cowboys 0:14:56.760 --> 0:14:58.960 need to make up for because for it because he 0:14:59.080 --> 0:15:02.200 was a fourth round pick. Well, no, Dak should have 0:15:02.240 --> 0:15:03.960 played better at Mississippi State and then he wouldn't have 0:15:04.000 --> 0:15:06.160 been a fourth round pick. So I mean, I don't 0:15:06.160 --> 0:15:09.320 want to be come across as like total team guy 0:15:09.440 --> 0:15:12.320 here and saying this is what Dak should have done. 0:15:12.520 --> 0:15:14.760 But I don't think the Cowboys can look and say, look, man, 0:15:14.800 --> 0:15:17.640 you're making all this money from Oi Ghost and Frido 0:15:17.720 --> 0:15:20.440 Lay and Sleep Number and Adidas and all this stuff. 0:15:21.000 --> 0:15:23.600 You know you're still said and you're getting this because 0:15:23.640 --> 0:15:25.920 you come from the Cowboys. You know there's not if 0:15:25.920 --> 0:15:28.120 you're in Buffalo, you're not going to get these deals. 0:15:28.720 --> 0:15:30.640 That's not Dak's fault. It's a little bit like the 0:15:30.680 --> 0:15:34.720 DeMarcus Lawrence answer about it's not his job to worry 0:15:34.720 --> 0:15:36.800 about how to make this work in the cap. That's 0:15:36.800 --> 0:15:39.160 Stephen Jones Dup. Same kind of thing with Dak and 0:15:39.200 --> 0:15:41.520 this thing. I don't think the Cowboys can really use 0:15:41.600 --> 0:15:45.560 that necessarily to say this is an instance where you 0:15:45.560 --> 0:15:47.720 know you should take less because you make more off 0:15:47.720 --> 0:15:51.560 the field. So here's the final big question for your 0:15:51.600 --> 0:15:53.960 top before he lets you go. Does this still get 0:15:54.040 --> 0:15:57.520 done before July fifteenth, And if not, do you think 0:15:57.560 --> 0:16:00.240 the sides are okay with the idea of boats. It's 0:16:00.280 --> 0:16:02.360 okay with the idea of letting Dak play this year 0:16:02.440 --> 0:16:05.280 on the cat on the tag. So this is where 0:16:05.320 --> 0:16:07.040 I'm gonna play both sides of it right now and 0:16:07.120 --> 0:16:10.040 not give you a really good answer right now. At 0:16:11.280 --> 0:16:15.200 eleven fifteen on the West today, the twenty seventh, I 0:16:15.280 --> 0:16:17.800 say he plays on the tag. Now, if we get 0:16:17.840 --> 0:16:22.360 to July fourteenth, I might be thinking something differently because 0:16:22.360 --> 0:16:24.640 there's just not been this movement and what's going to 0:16:24.800 --> 0:16:28.120 change between now in July fourteen fifteenth That is going 0:16:28.160 --> 0:16:31.080 to swing this thing unless Dak comes in and says 0:16:31.520 --> 0:16:33.600 I want X and I want why, and then the 0:16:33.680 --> 0:16:35.880 Cowboys will figure that out. That's what they've done with 0:16:36.000 --> 0:16:38.800 DeMarcus and Zach Martin and all these guys. But that's 0:16:38.840 --> 0:16:42.760 not been the case yet with Dak so playing the 0:16:42.800 --> 0:16:44.320 year on the tag. If he plays the year on 0:16:44.360 --> 0:16:46.600 the tag, I wrote this when they played the Vikings. 0:16:46.920 --> 0:16:49.960 If they go this route, you're basically starting the divorce 0:16:50.040 --> 0:16:53.640 process with the quarterback. Kirk Cousins is the most recent 0:16:53.680 --> 0:16:57.280 example of that. He was tagged now Washington never loved 0:16:57.680 --> 0:17:00.600 him the way the Cowboys love him. But you're starting 0:17:00.640 --> 0:17:03.800 that process of it's getting unruly the cap number in 0:17:03.800 --> 0:17:06.000 that third year, which will be fifty four million bucks 0:17:06.320 --> 0:17:08.800 to be in a situation where you can continue down 0:17:08.880 --> 0:17:13.120 this road. So that's the worry. The Cowboys have that, 0:17:13.320 --> 0:17:15.840 all right, Hey, Dak played for two million bucks las year, 0:17:15.840 --> 0:17:18.680 Why would' he play for thirty one this year? And now, okay, 0:17:18.680 --> 0:17:20.760 it'll be thirty eight next year to tag him again, 0:17:21.119 --> 0:17:24.280 Dak has to play well to earn that. So their 0:17:24.520 --> 0:17:26.399 arguments on both sides why the tag is good and 0:17:26.480 --> 0:17:30.359 why the tag is bad? And you know, I haven't 0:17:30.400 --> 0:17:33.239 tild July fifteen to figure it out, unfortunately. I think 0:17:33.240 --> 0:17:37.080 to'll wait till the July twelfth starting. That's typically the 0:17:37.080 --> 0:17:39.840 way things have done that. Deadlines do make deals around 0:17:39.840 --> 0:17:42.440 here for some reason. All right, we appreciate you joining us, Todd. 0:17:42.480 --> 0:17:44.239 We appreciate you taking us some time with us. 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He talked a lot about Dak 0:20:13.680 --> 0:20:15.919 and I, you know, I want to get into this 0:20:15.920 --> 0:20:18.880 conversation with you guys, we'll get into some of those 0:20:18.960 --> 0:20:21.400 rumors that are out that are out there and kind 0:20:21.400 --> 0:20:23.640 of how you guys feel about those. But before we do, 0:20:23.840 --> 0:20:25.840 the first question I have for you guys is what 0:20:26.000 --> 0:20:29.400 is the best thing that Dak does. Let's start with you, Dave. 0:20:32.280 --> 0:20:34.960 The best thing Dac I mean, right off the bat, 0:20:34.960 --> 0:20:37.880 and it sounds, I don't know, maybe counterintuitive. I mean, 0:20:37.920 --> 0:20:41.480 his intangibles, to me are probably the absolute best thing 0:20:41.520 --> 0:20:44.240 that he does. Whether you talk about him being a 0:20:44.400 --> 0:20:48.840 rallying point, a natural leader, a charismatic and you know, 0:20:50.440 --> 0:20:53.679 very influential member of that locker room, how that translates 0:20:53.680 --> 0:20:57.600 to the field. You know, he's unflappable, He's very poised, 0:20:57.680 --> 0:21:02.320 calm delivers and clutch moments. Spare me the commentary about 0:21:02.320 --> 0:21:05.440