1 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:09,640 Speaker 1: The following here's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:21,800 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Are you ready for 3 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 1: a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely 4 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 1: ready for a break. Yeah, and so much for that. 5 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:34,160 Speaker 1: It's time for the Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com. 6 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 1: Were with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and 7 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 1: Derek Eagleton. Twenty seven, two thousand twenty, Season sixteen, Episode eleven. 8 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of The Break. We're live from 9 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 1: the Virgil s WBC Mortgage Studios in our homes. I 10 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 1: got my normal crew here, NICKI, minniebl Garcia, Dave Hellman, 11 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 1: and we got a special us today one Todd Archer, 12 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 1: ESPN staff rider who's covered to Cowboys since two thousand 13 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 1: and three, long time friend of the program. And Todd, 14 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:12,119 Speaker 1: we appreciate you joining us today. How's everything going. Thanks 15 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:15,320 Speaker 1: for finally having me on. I really really feel special. Finally. 16 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 1: I've asked Nick time and time again he's always shot 17 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 1: me down to talk about that. I mean, is that 18 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:25,399 Speaker 1: like a go to line? That's what Darren Whitson said 19 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:30,680 Speaker 1: last week. A Well, everybody's blaming Yeah, everybody's blaming Nick. 20 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 1: And of course with those of you that don't know, 21 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 1: Todd is also the father of Dave Hellman, so he 22 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 1: joined dad. You know Dad, Yeah, there's always disappointment in life. 23 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 1: Very fair, let's joke right in, Todd Um. I just 24 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 1: want to start by getting your general thoughts on where 25 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 1: the Cowboys stand now after most of the free agency 26 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 1: has been done at this point, and after what most 27 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 1: people consider to be a pretty good draft. What do 28 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 1: you think they stand as a team from from a 29 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 1: personnel standpoint? Now you go back to win fran agency started, 30 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 1: and it happens every year when the Cowboys don't do 31 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 1: anything and it's the sky's falling. They're losing everybody Byron 32 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 1: Jones has gone, Quinn has gone. All these guys are leaving, 33 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 1: and bell of a sudden, you look up at the 34 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 1: end of them and you're like, huh, this wasn't bad. 35 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 1: And they were pretty good financially with these deals GERYLD McCoy, 36 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 1: don Terry poh, Clinton Dix, the corners that they brought in, 37 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 1: the guys that they kept, Amari Cooper, and obviously dak 38 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:31,640 Speaker 1: on the franchise tag. So then you add in the draft. 39 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 1: So I look at the Cowboys and I say there's 40 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 1: still a team or the team to beat in the 41 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:40,839 Speaker 1: NFC East. I'll let Philly hold the team to beat 42 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 1: because they won it last year. But I don't think 43 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 1: there's any surprise that people would say it's the Eagles 44 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:49,640 Speaker 1: and the Cowboys and the other two teams in the division. 45 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:52,359 Speaker 1: And if you're getting the tournament as Parcels like to say, 46 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 1: it's anybody's game. And you add a new coach with 47 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy, a guy who had skins in the wall, 48 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 1: this has been one of the better Cowboys offseasons in 49 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:02,640 Speaker 1: my view. It's interesting you mentioned Dak Prescott, and one 50 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 1: of the reasons we wanted to have you on is 51 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:06,640 Speaker 1: because I know you've been locked in on that whole 52 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 1: thing going on. Tell us right now, what's the current 53 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 1: status as you know it with regards to the contract 54 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:16,360 Speaker 1: negotiations between the Cowboys and Decks people. The current status 55 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 1: is that Dak is closer to an extension that Hellman 56 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:21,919 Speaker 1: is ever going to be to sign an extension with y'all. 57 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 1: It's far greater money, but that's true, but there's really 58 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 1: not a hike of a lot going on right now. 59 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 1: And the longer that it's and that kind of surprises me. 60 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 1: I thought after the draft they would have gotten after 61 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 1: this just because look where we are right now. We're 62 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 1: all at home, we're not at an Ota, and there's 63 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 1: nothing going on on the field. I thought that they 64 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 1: might have been a little more proactive and trying to 65 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 1: get this thing done before the July fifteenth deadline. But 66 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 1: I think right now, if you had to ask me, 67 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 1: this is getting down to what it was with Dez 68 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 1: Bryant in twenty fifteen. It's going to come down to 69 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 1: that three o'clock to deadline on je fifteenth. Ultimately, I 70 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 1: think he signs a contract. But there's really not been 71 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 1: a lot of back and forth between these guys honestly 72 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 1: since the end of March, and people will shake their 73 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 1: head and say, well, why are the Cowboys doing it 74 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 1: this way? Well, there's two sides on this thing too 75 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 1: that people don't seem to want to acknowledge as to 76 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:22,919 Speaker 1: why a deal hasn't done yet. Sod you wrote that 77 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 1: article maybe last week, and what was one of the 78 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:30,719 Speaker 1: main reasons why you decided to do that. Did you 79 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 1: maybe get new information or did we just tired of 80 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 1: hearing some of the noise that was you know, kind 81 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:39,839 Speaker 1: of the false narrative that was going on around this deal. Yeah, 82 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 1: mainly the false narrative stuff and just everything that's been created, 83 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 1: the drama around it, And I think some of it 84 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 1: is a result of not having any sports on TV. 85 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 1: There's no baseball, there's no basketball playoffs, there's no hockey playoffs. 86 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 1: So you know, back in the Cowboys was always going 87 00:04:56,680 --> 00:05:00,479 Speaker 1: to generate headlines. But now it's just kind of become 88 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 1: sublime of Dak's awful, DA's great dad, can't throw a pass, 89 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 1: he's one of the most accurate guys in the game. 90 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:10,160 Speaker 1: The Cowboys waited too long to sign him, the Cowboys 91 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 1: want him to take less, all these things. It just 92 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:15,279 Speaker 1: kind of got me to say, all right, enough, already, 93 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:17,719 Speaker 1: what's out there that we know of that's true, and 94 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:20,679 Speaker 1: what we know that's out there that's not true, And 95 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 1: that's where the genesis of the idea came from, to 96 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:31,039 Speaker 1: kind of put everything into perspective. I do have a 97 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 1: question for you, Todd. It has nothing to do with Dak. 98 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:39,799 Speaker 1: I know that you have a good relationship with Jason Wooten. Obviously, 99 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 1: after we heard that he wasn't coming back to the Cowboys, 100 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:46,279 Speaker 1: we haven't necessarily gotten a chance to talk to him 101 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:49,599 Speaker 1: or hear much from him his side of the story 102 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:52,040 Speaker 1: of kind of how things went down. I wanted to 103 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:54,839 Speaker 1: know if you have had any conversations with him and 104 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 1: kind of get his side of things and how everything 105 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 1: went with Mike macarthy coming in, and how those conversations 106 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 1: went between both parties. I've talked to him only a 107 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:07,839 Speaker 1: little bit. I think with this pandemic, he's really not 108 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:11,040 Speaker 1: been in town all of that much, even if he's 109 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 1: selling his nice house at the moment, but not moving 110 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 1: to Vegas. He's just moving up the street basically from 111 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 1: where he lives. But I think at the end of 112 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 1: the year, the way he was talking to us, and 113 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 1: you guys remember what he was like in the locker room, 114 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 1: it seemed to think he would be on the coaching 115 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:31,239 Speaker 1: staff in some role in twenty twenty, and then when 116 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:34,280 Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy came in, things kind of changed, and then 117 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:37,920 Speaker 1: he thought about playing again, And I don't know if 118 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 1: he was in Mike McCarthy's plans to want to continue 119 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:44,600 Speaker 1: down this road again and play another season. So that's 120 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 1: and you think of McCarthy. He's had guys like Donald 121 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 1: Driver at the end of his time in Green Bay. 122 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:53,039 Speaker 1: Brett Favre obviously in Green Bay as well, so he 123 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 1: probably just said, you know what, not totally like what 124 00:06:57,400 --> 00:07:00,279 Speaker 1: it was when Parcels and Emmett had their on a 125 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 1: deal back when Bill came in and oh three, but 126 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 1: similar to that, and Jason in his mind said, Okay, well, 127 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 1: I want to go play somewhere else and let's see 128 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 1: what it's like. And the Raiders became a viable option. 129 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 1: And I know he's excited to work with John Bruden 130 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 1: and see what that offense is like after being in 131 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 1: basically the same system since two thousand and seven. But 132 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 1: I'm surprised that he's not coaching on the Cowboys. I 133 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 1: thought Jerry might have put his foot or put his 134 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 1: hand up and say no, Mike, he's gonna be on 135 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 1: your staff. But he didn't. And then, you know, kudos 136 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 1: for Jerry for not doing what everybody thinks he does 137 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 1: and just Bigfoot and everybody in these situations. All right, Coops, 138 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 1: I got a two power for you. And obviously it's 139 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 1: gonna be about Dak because we've talked more about that 140 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 1: over the last three years than anything. Number One, I 141 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 1: agree with you I think this is going to come 142 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 1: down to July fifteenth. I don't see any reason why 143 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 1: would get done ahead of time at this point. If 144 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 1: that is to happen, if Dad does getna deal before 145 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 1: the deadline, which of the two sides is going to 146 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 1: have to conceive more to get it done and then 147 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 1: the other one? Why is this in your opinion, at 148 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 1: least over your years covering the team, Why is this 149 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 1: a consistent theme with the Cowboys? And it is typically 150 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 1: a deadline day sort of situation? You know, I don't 151 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 1: on the last part. I don't know if that specific 152 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 1: to the Cowboys necessarily that deadlines make deals. There's a 153 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 1: lot of people, a lot of teams that have that, 154 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 1: but we're obviously more in tune with the Cowboys. Now 155 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 1: you can say, well, Carson Wentz got his deal done 156 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 1: and Jared Goff then got his deal done. But I 157 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 1: just view this as partially betting on himself to the 158 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 1: very end and arguably winning. I mean, he was staring 159 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 1: last year on the season opener at thirty three million 160 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 1: dollars a year and about ninety ninety five million dollars 161 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 1: guaranteed to him, and he said, no, I'm going to 162 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:56,079 Speaker 1: play on two million bucks? Raise your hand if any 163 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 1: of us would have done that, heck no, but good 164 00:08:59,880 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 1: to him, and he's done it, and now he's gonna 165 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 1: you know, look, what is the ultimate price that it's 166 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 1: gonna get up to. I mean from what we've been told, 167 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 1: it's thirty four and a half million a year, and 168 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 1: his and his guarantee is upward on par with what 169 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:14,679 Speaker 1: Jared Goff got from the Rams about one hundred and 170 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 1: ten million. So did that did that buy him an 171 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 1: extra couple what would that be? None? If fifteen million bucks? 172 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:27,840 Speaker 1: You know over a deal? Maybe maybe it has. But 173 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 1: I think that the ultimate sticking point is going to 174 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 1: be on the years of this thing. Is it five? 175 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 1: Is it four? And who's going to cave? I mean 176 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 1: history tells you it's the cowboys, because they seemed to 177 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 1: cave a little bit on z. It seemed to cave 178 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:44,680 Speaker 1: a little bit on DeMarcus Lawrence. But I go back 179 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 1: to if both sides want to get this deal done, 180 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 1: just sit down and get it done. And I think 181 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:54,719 Speaker 1: Dak's greatest trade is awareness. I've told you guys that 182 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 1: many times. And I think even if he were to 183 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 1: take thirty five point one million and become the highest 184 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 1: paid quarterback. Theory, people would say, man, what a great guy. 185 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:06,560 Speaker 1: Each other less to stay with the Cowboys, and that 186 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 1: would earn him so much credit because as soon as 187 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 1: he signs his contract, he's no longer this fourth round 188 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:15,200 Speaker 1: pick that everybody enjoyed. What a great find. It's now 189 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 1: all right, man, you better win some super Bowls. The 190 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 1: same thing happened in Romo after you got his big 191 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:22,599 Speaker 1: deal in two thousand and seven. You mentioned that the 192 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 1: four or five years it could get out one one 193 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:28,719 Speaker 1: or the other. Tell the fans out there why that's 194 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 1: so important, Why four years would presumably be so important 195 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 1: to Dak and why five years would be so important 196 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 1: to the Cowboys, Because most fans probably look at it say, okay, whatever, 197 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 1: four or five doesn't matter, But why is that so 198 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 1: important to each too? I guess string this thing out 199 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 1: to try to get the number of years that they want. Yeah, 200 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 1: while on Dak's end of it is four years. The 201 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 1: TV deals are all starting to come up, and if 202 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 1: we if these things are gonna be as pricey as 203 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 1: we think they're gonna be. Although the pandemic might change 204 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 1: the narrative a little bit, maybe on what they could be. 205 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 1: You want to get out of free agency as soon 206 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 1: as possible, So a four year deal, sure, I mean 207 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 1: initially they were looking at three, but they've come to four. 208 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 1: The Cowboys have been a six year deal and they've 209 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 1: come to five. From the Cowboys perspective, why you won 210 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:14,440 Speaker 1: five is helps with the salary cap in terms of 211 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 1: lowering the number, especially in the first year, spreading out 212 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:21,440 Speaker 1: that bonus through the years, and you don't want to 213 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:25,199 Speaker 1: start going through this again in after two years. Right, 214 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:27,439 Speaker 1: if it's four years, we're going to say, when do 215 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 1: they start looking at DAC again? When do they start 216 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:31,960 Speaker 1: looking at his contract? The more that you can push 217 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 1: this thing out and have some certainty at the position 218 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:37,559 Speaker 1: that he's going to be there, that's why the Cowboys 219 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:39,960 Speaker 1: won five. But Dak wants to four. I don't want 220 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:42,440 Speaker 1: to even say that his agent wants the four to 221 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 1: have the ability to go out there and cash in again. 222 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 1: I will say, we all remember Romo signed his deal 223 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 1: in twenty thirteen. I think he was thirty three or 224 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 1: four years old. Well, DA's only gonna be what thirty 225 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 1: one at the end of a five year deal, thirty 226 00:11:57,040 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 1: one thirty two? The cowboys are shown if you play well, 227 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 1: they're gonna pay you, regardless of how old you are. 228 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 1: Let's dive into that article. Nick mentioned that article a 229 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 1: little earlier that you wrote, and I thought it was 230 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 1: an interesting article. It was called Dispelling the Theories, and 231 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:13,599 Speaker 1: there were a number of theories that you kind of 232 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 1: went through there talking about different things that people are 233 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:19,080 Speaker 1: saying just out in the basically the Twitter sphere where 234 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 1: it can be a gut or at times. But you 235 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:23,319 Speaker 1: know what some of the things that people were talking 236 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 1: about as too, you know, things around the dak contract. 237 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna throw a few of them out to you, 238 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:30,679 Speaker 1: and I want you to explain to me the basis 239 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:33,200 Speaker 1: for the theory and then your verdict on how you 240 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 1: see it, whether it's important, whether it's true, how much 241 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 1: he really factors in. Let's start up the first one. 242 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 1: You said Dallas waited too long to try to sign Prescott. 243 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 1: I don't think that's true, because as soon as they 244 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:48,200 Speaker 1: were able to sign him after his third year, they tried. 245 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 1: They were in that offseason of twenty nineteen, the first 246 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 1: time that can come at him, and they tried to 247 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:57,079 Speaker 1: get a deal done, and again we got to September 248 00:12:57,400 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 1: where Jerry kind of hinted, we're close on this thing. 249 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 1: Then we found out later that, okay, here were the numbers, 250 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:06,319 Speaker 1: and this is It seemed close at the time. So 251 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 1: you know, as Steven Jones like to say, two sides, 252 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:11,839 Speaker 1: you can only make a deal when both sides want 253 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 1: to make a deal. I think the Cowboys thought they 254 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:16,840 Speaker 1: were getting to that point in last September, but they didn't. 255 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 1: So the fact that the Cowboys waited too long when 256 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 1: they made him an offer that was greater than Wentz 257 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 1: an average per year, and you can argue that their 258 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 1: guarantee is greater than what Wentz and Golf got based 259 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:30,200 Speaker 1: on the money those guys are already guaranteed as the 260 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 1: top two picks, that they put a fair offer on 261 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 1: the table. I think they've been fair. Maybe they could 262 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:39,080 Speaker 1: have started a little higher to get the process rolling 263 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 1: a little bit, but I don't. You can't say they 264 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:42,719 Speaker 1: waited too long when they made him an offer that 265 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 1: would have made him the fourth highest paid quarterback in 266 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 1: the game. The second Cowboys want Prescott to settle for less. 267 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:56,200 Speaker 1: Kind of again, the numbers we threw around a second ago, 268 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 1: thirty four and a half million Bucks. That's the number 269 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 1: two quarterback in the league Russells and makes thirty five 270 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 1: hundred and ten million guaranteed, makes him the highest, tied 271 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 1: for the highest with GoF So if they want him 272 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:08,080 Speaker 1: to settle for less, they're not doing a good job 273 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 1: of actually having him settle for less when you've offered 274 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:13,840 Speaker 1: the number one in terms of average or number two 275 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 1: in average per year, and number one in potential guarantee. 276 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 1: So now we don't know the structures of all these 277 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 1: things and the payouts and the fermals and when the 278 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 1: money becomes fully guaranteed and all that stuff. So I'm 279 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 1: sure there's other things that we don't know, but just 280 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 1: on the base of it, when you've offered the guy 281 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 1: who's won one playoff game that kind of contract, you're 282 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 1: not you're not asking him to take less. She just 283 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 1: not asked him. Don't take everything. In the final Prescott 284 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 1: should realize how much he makes off the field, and 285 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 1: he does, but that's not his fault, and the Cowboys 286 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 1: shouldn't use that in my view, as a way to 287 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 1: get him to settle for less. You know, and I'm 288 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 1: not one of these guys to say, well, the Cowboys 289 00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 1: need to make up for because for it because he 290 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 1: was a fourth round pick. Well, no, Dak should have 291 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 1: played better at Mississippi State and then he wouldn't have 292 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 1: been a fourth round pick. So I mean, I don't 293 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 1: want to be come across as like total team guy 294 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 1: here and saying this is what Dak should have done. 295 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 1: But I don't think the Cowboys can look and say, look, man, 296 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 1: you're making all this money from Oi Ghost and Frido 297 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 1: Lay and Sleep Number and Adidas and all this stuff. 298 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 1: You know you're still said and you're getting this because 299 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 1: you come from the Cowboys. You know there's not if 300 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 1: you're in Buffalo, you're not going to get these deals. 301 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 1: That's not Dak's fault. It's a little bit like the 302 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 1: DeMarcus Lawrence answer about it's not his job to worry 303 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 1: about how to make this work in the cap. That's 304 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 1: Stephen Jones Dup. Same kind of thing with Dak and 305 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 1: this thing. I don't think the Cowboys can really use 306 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 1: that necessarily to say this is an instance where you 307 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 1: know you should take less because you make more off 308 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 1: the field. So here's the final big question for your 309 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 1: top before he lets you go. Does this still get 310 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 1: done before July fifteenth, And if not, do you think 311 00:15:57,560 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 1: the sides are okay with the idea of boats. It's 312 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 1: okay with the idea of letting Dak play this year 313 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 1: on the cat on the tag. So this is where 314 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna play both sides of it right now and 315 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 1: not give you a really good answer right now. At 316 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 1: eleven fifteen on the West today, the twenty seventh, I 317 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 1: say he plays on the tag. Now, if we get 318 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 1: to July fourteenth, I might be thinking something differently because 319 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 1: there's just not been this movement and what's going to 320 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 1: change between now in July fourteen fifteenth That is going 321 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 1: to swing this thing unless Dak comes in and says 322 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 1: I want X and I want why, and then the 323 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 1: Cowboys will figure that out. That's what they've done with 324 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 1: DeMarcus and Zach Martin and all these guys. But that's 325 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 1: not been the case yet with Dak so playing the 326 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 1: year on the tag. If he plays the year on 327 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 1: the tag, I wrote this when they played the Vikings. 328 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 1: If they go this route, you're basically starting the divorce 329 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 1: process with the quarterback. Kirk Cousins is the most recent 330 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 1: example of that. He was tagged now Washington never loved 331 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 1: him the way the Cowboys love him. But you're starting 332 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 1: that process of it's getting unruly the cap number in 333 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 1: that third year, which will be fifty four million bucks 334 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 1: to be in a situation where you can continue down 335 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:13,120 Speaker 1: this road. So that's the worry. The Cowboys have that, 336 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 1: all right, Hey, Dak played for two million bucks las year, 337 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:18,680 Speaker 1: Why would' he play for thirty one this year? And now, okay, 338 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 1: it'll be thirty eight next year to tag him again, 339 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 1: Dak has to play well to earn that. So their 340 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:26,399 Speaker 1: arguments on both sides why the tag is good and 341 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:30,359 Speaker 1: why the tag is bad? And you know, I haven't 342 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:33,239 Speaker 1: tild July fifteen to figure it out, unfortunately. I think 343 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 1: to'll wait till the July twelfth starting. That's typically the 344 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 1: way things have done that. Deadlines do make deals around 345 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:42,440 Speaker 1: here for some reason. 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He talked a lot about Dak 387 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:15,919 Speaker 1: and I, you know, I want to get into this 388 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:18,880 Speaker 1: conversation with you guys, we'll get into some of those 389 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:21,400 Speaker 1: rumors that are out that are out there and kind 390 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:23,640 Speaker 1: of how you guys feel about those. But before we do, 391 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 1: the first question I have for you guys is what 392 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:29,400 Speaker 1: is the best thing that Dak does. Let's start with you, Dave. 393 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 1: The best thing Dac I mean, right off the bat, 394 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:37,880 Speaker 1: and it sounds, I don't know, maybe counterintuitive. I mean, 395 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 1: his intangibles, to me are probably the absolute best thing 396 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 1: that he does. Whether you talk about him being a 397 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 1: rallying point, a natural leader, a charismatic and you know, 398 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:53,679 Speaker 1: very influential member of that locker room, how that translates 399 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 1: to the field. You know, he's unflappable, He's very poised, 400 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 1: calm delivers and clutch moments. Spare me the commentary about 401 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:05,440 Speaker 1: his record against winning teams last year. I know that 402 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 1: doesn't change the fact that he is a very poised 403 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 1: and clutch quarterback. You can go back to the playoff 404 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:15,360 Speaker 1: game against the Seahawks and yeah, and it's not. I mean, 405 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 1: the guy's obviously got great on fieldability. But that's probably 406 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 1: the starting point with me, is he's just he's got 407 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 1: the intangibles of a franchise quarterbacker. I mean, honestly, there's 408 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 1: not much more that I can add to that. I 409 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:34,199 Speaker 1: agree with everything that they've said. I mean also the 410 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:37,199 Speaker 1: respect that he gets from his teammates. I have not 411 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:41,200 Speaker 1: heard anyone in the locker room ever speak bad about him, 412 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 1: or say anything negative or blame anything on him, So 413 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 1: I think that that goes a long way. One of 414 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:52,640 Speaker 1: the things that I have trouble with is, yes, he's 415 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 1: one of those guys that reacts well under pressure, but 416 00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:59,880 Speaker 1: at the same time, a lot of those times each 417 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 1: it's too late. It happens too late in the game, 418 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 1: and then you're left going home without a win. So 419 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:10,680 Speaker 1: he has a lot of great things. I do think 420 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 1: he has a lot of potential and can eventually give 421 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 1: you what every you know, everything that the fans are 422 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 1: asking for it as far as winning games, but only 423 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 1: time will tell as far as that, but as far 424 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 1: as in general ability, I do think he has everything 425 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:31,400 Speaker 1: to become that kind of quarterback in the future. Nick. 426 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 1: I think the thing that he does the best is just, 427 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 1: you know, like they said that, the intangible figuring out 428 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:43,200 Speaker 1: things on in the middle of the play, knowing when 429 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:46,679 Speaker 1: to run, knowing how to use his strength, you know 430 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 1: he does. He's not the most polished quarterback in terms 431 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 1: of mechanics, but he figures out a way to get 432 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 1: it done when the lights come on. Now, I think 433 00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 1: you can argue all day about how clutch he is 434 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:02,399 Speaker 1: and and you know where the you know, that poise 435 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:06,359 Speaker 1: you know comes comes through in the fourth quarter. I 436 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 1: don't think last year was a good example of that, 437 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 1: but you know, he's a guy. At the bottom line, 438 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 1: do you want him on your team at the end 439 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 1: of the game or not? And I think the Cowboys do. 440 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 1: I think most Cowboys fans would say that they do. 441 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:20,199 Speaker 1: M Last year just wasn't a great year for that, 442 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 1: But that doesn't mean he's not good enough to get 443 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 1: the job done. What's the area that he needs to 444 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:30,679 Speaker 1: improve most. Let's start with you him one of the 445 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:35,120 Speaker 1: things that bothers me and I don't know. I don't 446 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 1: know how to argue this very well because it can 447 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:41,440 Speaker 1: be applied to a lot of other quarterbacks around the leagues, 448 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:44,960 Speaker 1: but there are certain quarterbacks that it would not apply. 449 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 1: This wouldn't apply to that, but that to me, he's 450 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:52,399 Speaker 1: the kind of quarterback that needs guys around him in 451 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 1: order to make things happen. For example, we've seen how 452 00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. I don't want to compare him to Aaron 453 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 1: Rodgers any but Aaron Rodgers can make guys look good. 454 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:04,880 Speaker 1: He can put the ball where he needs to go. 455 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 1: Dak needs guy guys that can actually be there to 456 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:12,200 Speaker 1: catch the ball, you know. I think there are too 457 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 1: many elements that need to be working for Dak in 458 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 1: order for the game to go his way. And that's 459 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 1: one of the things that I really don't know if 460 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:24,359 Speaker 1: he had that kind of offensive line that he does, 461 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:28,200 Speaker 1: if he had if he didn't have Zeke and everybody 462 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 1: else around there. We saw the trouble that he had 463 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 1: when the Cowboys had a committee wide receiver group, you know, 464 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:39,880 Speaker 1: and things weren't necessarily clicking. I think that he wouldn't 465 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 1: be as successful as he has been in those games 466 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 1: that we've seen him. But in general, that's one of 467 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 1: the things that raises questions for me, is how many 468 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 1: people does he actually need in order for him to 469 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 1: be successful in the game, because the area needs to improve. Actressy, 470 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:01,879 Speaker 1: I mean, he's just died down the field of accuracy, 471 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 1: and yeah, I don't think you can come back and 472 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:07,879 Speaker 1: and and throw out stats about completion percentage. We know 473 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,919 Speaker 1: a lot of these are shorter passes. UM. You know 474 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,360 Speaker 1: that a lot of a lot of quarterbacks have UM. 475 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:15,679 Speaker 1: But but I just think it's it's just, you know, 476 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:17,679 Speaker 1: there's some throws down the field that you know, he 477 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 1: could be better on the intermediate throws and stuff like that. Um, 478 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,919 Speaker 1: that's something that all quarterbacks can improve on, and and 479 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 1: you know, including Daka as well. I mean, you mentioned 480 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. Nobody's nobody's like Aaron Rodgers when it comes 481 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:31,880 Speaker 1: to that kind of accuracy. But I think he can get, 482 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:35,399 Speaker 1: you know, better than than some of the other quarterbacks 483 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 1: that you know that are that are really accurate. He 484 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:39,679 Speaker 1: needs to kind of get on their level as well. 485 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:42,119 Speaker 1: I will say that on that note, last year it 486 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:44,719 Speaker 1: seemed to me, at least uh he and Gallop had 487 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:47,879 Speaker 1: connection down field that seemed to be improved over the 488 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 1: year before that. So hopefully that signs that he's getting 489 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 1: better in that area. I agree with he probably needs 490 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:54,680 Speaker 1: to get even better than that. Dave. Where do you 491 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 1: think is the biggest area he needs to improved? I 492 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:00,919 Speaker 1: agree with Nick, but differently, honest, I mean, it was 493 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:04,160 Speaker 1: it was last week NFL dot Com came out and said, 494 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:08,280 Speaker 1: you know, the guy, based on advanced metrics, the guy's 495 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:11,200 Speaker 1: the most accurate deep ball passer in the league. And 496 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 1: I'm not worried about that. The thing I look at, 497 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:18,720 Speaker 1: Dak's gotta make He's got to make the routine look better. 498 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,360 Speaker 1: I think about, you know, the Saints game. They lose 499 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 1: twelve to ten. He misses Randall Cobb in the end 500 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:28,680 Speaker 1: zone in the first quarter on a ball that could 501 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 1: have been a touchdown pre routine like fifteen eighteen yard throw. 502 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 1: Fourth quarter, missus Cobb again on a crossing route that's 503 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 1: behind him. Cobb absolutely should have caught the ball, but 504 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:42,439 Speaker 1: it still wasn't in front of him. Um, it wasn't 505 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 1: as well played as it could have been. He's much 506 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,960 Speaker 1: more accurate than he gets credit for. But that can 507 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 1: be the difference between winning and losing. Is that placement. 508 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 1: And I do feel like, you know, sometimes those routine 509 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:58,320 Speaker 1: passes aren't as easily catchable as they should be. That 510 00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 1: doesn't mean his receivers should drop him, but he could 511 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:02,639 Speaker 1: help his receivers out a little bit more him that. 512 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 1: I feel like that's been a thing for him for 513 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,960 Speaker 1: most of his career. He just needs to be more 514 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 1: consistent with just the obvious easy plays. Yeah, it's interesting 515 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 1: because it seems to me like in a lot of 516 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 1: those instances, it goes game by game. There's some games 517 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,720 Speaker 1: I walk away from and I'm like, Mandak really didn't 518 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 1: play that well. There's some quarters I walk away from, like, man, 519 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 1: dad didn't have a great quarter, And then there are 520 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:27,440 Speaker 1: other ones where he's just on fire and hitting all 521 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:29,040 Speaker 1: of his targets where he needs to hit him. So 522 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 1: I agree with you, consistency is probably more the issues, 523 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 1: not that he can't do it, it's that canny do 524 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 1: it consistently enough. Right, Yeah, he can definitely do it. 525 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:39,440 Speaker 1: There's loads of evidence that he can. But right it's 526 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 1: just you know, you gotta do it on third and 527 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:43,399 Speaker 1: five and the fourth the same way that you do 528 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:46,239 Speaker 1: it in the first. Yeah. All right, So let's talk 529 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 1: a little bit about some of these theories that are 530 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:49,919 Speaker 1: out there. And you guys know you're on Twitter, you 531 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,200 Speaker 1: see all the different stuff that people are talking about 532 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:55,880 Speaker 1: right now with regards to Dak Prescott. I'm gonna throw 533 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 1: out a theory and then I want each you guys 534 00:27:57,600 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 1: to tell me whether you agree or disagree with it, 535 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 1: and first theory was that Dallas waited too long to 536 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 1: sign Dak Prescott. Let's start with Dave Oh. I go 537 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:10,879 Speaker 1: back and forth about this a lot, because I agree 538 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 1: with what Todd said in the first segment, like it 539 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:15,879 Speaker 1: takes two to tango, and if if Dak and his 540 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,120 Speaker 1: people just aren't willing to play ball, then there's only 541 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:21,080 Speaker 1: so much that the Cowboys can do. And Todd did 542 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 1: a great job of not really answering the second part 543 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 1: of my question, which is like, at the same time, 544 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:29,960 Speaker 1: the Eagles managed to get this done way ahead of 545 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 1: any kind of deadline. The Rams did it with goth 546 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 1: The Seahawks did it with Russ, you know, well before 547 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 1: his deal expired. I know, you know, Russ kind of 548 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 1: put a deadline on, you know, OTAs, but he didn't 549 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:43,840 Speaker 1: threaten to hold out or anything like that. They still 550 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 1: managed to get a deal done. I feel like the 551 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 1: vast majority of quarterback contracts come in pretty far ahead 552 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 1: of schedule, and it hasn't been the case with the Cowboys. 553 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:56,440 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that they need to just offer him 554 00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:59,200 Speaker 1: the world and make him the first forty million dollars quarterback, 555 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 1: but nobody else seems to have the same kind of 556 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 1: problem with this. So you know, I'm not trying to 557 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 1: fault the Cowboys too much, but it is curious to 558 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 1: me that they're the one team that can't get this 559 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 1: done ahead of time. Don't you have to note, at 560 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 1: least from that stampoint that in those instances the Cowboy 561 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 1: offered the Cowboys offerer deal is very comparable to what 562 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 1: Wentz ended up signing, very comparable to what Golf ended 563 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 1: up signing, probably a little better in some respects according 564 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 1: to some of the reports. So I mean, what else 565 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 1: can they do other than kind of offer a deal 566 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 1: that seems to be on par with his peers, or 567 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:34,959 Speaker 1: if it's because cough Wins were first round picks and 568 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 1: so they already had some guaranteed money in the bank, 569 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 1: which that seems counterintuitive because you would think Dak would 570 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:44,440 Speaker 1: jump at a the deal because he doesn't have any 571 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:47,120 Speaker 1: of that type of money. But maybe the fact that 572 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 1: he's looking for his first big payday him and his 573 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:51,719 Speaker 1: agents want to make sure it's as good as possible. 574 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 1: I don't know, but it's it's kind of frustrating that 575 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 1: these other teams haven't had this issue. What do you 576 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 1: think about that idea that Alice waited too long to 577 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 1: sign that. I don't think so. I I you know, 578 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:06,520 Speaker 1: I agree with what you said and what Todd had said. 579 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 1: I mean, they did, you know, UM offer a deal, 580 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 1: and you know, Dad decided that he wanted to play 581 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 1: on the two million, and I'm I'm sitting here looking 582 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:18,479 Speaker 1: at the math and I just don't understand that. I 583 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 1: don't understand why he would want to do that. Um, 584 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:25,520 Speaker 1: I'm looking at a deal if he if he did 585 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 1: instead of thirty five a year, if he did forty 586 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 1: million dollars a year. Uh, he would have taken that, obviously, 587 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:34,800 Speaker 1: because there's been a lot of rumors on that that 588 00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 1: would have been a five year deal. Forty that's two 589 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 1: hundred millions. You know, at thirty five that's one hundred 590 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 1: and seventy five millions. What's what's I still don't understand 591 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:45,800 Speaker 1: why you would lose to why you would play for 592 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 1: two million dollars, I don't I don't get that, And 593 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 1: how you're gonna make up that money. You're never gonna 594 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 1: make up that money. Even if you did a forty 595 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:55,720 Speaker 1: million dollars deal, you wouldn't make up that money. So 596 00:30:55,760 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 1: I don't understand his line of thinking there. I personally 597 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:03,000 Speaker 1: think he's getting bad advice. No, I don't. I don't 598 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,480 Speaker 1: think the Cowboys waited too long. I think they're sticking 599 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:10,080 Speaker 1: to their guns on what they believe. He's worse amber 600 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 1: I think it's a little bit of both. And honestly, 601 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 1: maybe my memory is completely serving me wrong here, but 602 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 1: I feel like many many times during training camp that 603 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:25,880 Speaker 1: we would be talking to Stephen Jones and talk about 604 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:30,800 Speaker 1: these dark negotiations. Many times I feel like I would hear, oh, well, 605 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 1: we haven't really talked yet. We haven't really talked yet, 606 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:37,080 Speaker 1: And I remember I don't again, please correct me if 607 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:40,160 Speaker 1: I'm completely wrong, but I remember when every time I 608 00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 1: would hear that, I'm like, what are you waiting for? Like, 609 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:46,960 Speaker 1: you know you can easily talk. I don't know exactly 610 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:50,000 Speaker 1: how how long it takes for these kind of conversations 611 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 1: or the process of getting these conversations started, but I 612 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:58,520 Speaker 1: feel like maybe in those instances I would have liked 613 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 1: to hear at different ins or maybe it's like, Okay, 614 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:04,040 Speaker 1: yes we started talking, but nothing has come from it yet, 615 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:06,960 Speaker 1: or something like that that would made me feel like, yes, 616 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:11,680 Speaker 1: the Cowboys did start early on and did not drag 617 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 1: this out in way too long. I do get that 618 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:17,640 Speaker 1: it takes both sides, but from what I remember, I 619 00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:20,800 Speaker 1: feel like maybe the Cowboys could have started a little earlier. 620 00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 1: The one thing I will say, and this I think 621 00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 1: is just kind of a typical negotiating tactic, is when 622 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:29,400 Speaker 1: you got two parties that have already kind of given 623 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:32,480 Speaker 1: their initial ideas on what they think the contracts should 624 00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:34,239 Speaker 1: be or what they think should the deals should be, 625 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 1: it's almost a stalemate from the standpoint that the person 626 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:42,720 Speaker 1: that initiates contact first after that is the one that's 627 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:45,840 Speaker 1: more motivated to negotiate a little bit more, to give 628 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 1: a little bit more, and you put yourself in a 629 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:51,800 Speaker 1: little worse negotiating position, right. That's just that's a typical 630 00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:54,200 Speaker 1: thing that happens in negotiations. And I think that's one 631 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:57,600 Speaker 1: of the reasons why the Cowboys always say, you know, 632 00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:00,360 Speaker 1: you know, deadlines make deals, is because in a lot 633 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:03,320 Speaker 1: of instances, once you get close to a deadline, then 634 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:05,280 Speaker 1: that kind of goes out in the window for both parties. 635 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:08,200 Speaker 1: They're like, look the deadlines tomorrow, Let's just see if 636 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 1: there's something we can figure out. And you don't really 637 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:14,080 Speaker 1: give up any of that negotiating leverage by doing that, 638 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:15,840 Speaker 1: And so I think in a lot of instances, the 639 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:17,959 Speaker 1: Cowboys are just trying to maintain as much leverage as 640 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,719 Speaker 1: they can in the negotiation. So is the other side, 641 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 1: and so there really isn't any any discussion. They get 642 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:25,760 Speaker 1: to this stellmate and then nothing happens. They just sit 643 00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:28,440 Speaker 1: there and both sides weight until one or the other 644 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:32,600 Speaker 1: decides they want to reinitiate contact and start negotiating harder. 645 00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:35,120 Speaker 1: So again, I still think at the end of the day, 646 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:37,880 Speaker 1: they probably started at the right time. They didn't have 647 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,760 Speaker 1: the offer that Dac and his people wanted, and that's 648 00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:44,719 Speaker 1: one of the reasons why they're still guests in this situation. 649 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:47,760 Speaker 1: Let's go to the next theory. They said Cowboys want 650 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:50,360 Speaker 1: Prescott to settle for less. Let's start with you, Nick, 651 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:56,560 Speaker 1: You agree with that or disagree? No, But no, I 652 00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:59,040 Speaker 1: don't think they want him to settle for less, don't. 653 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:01,440 Speaker 1: I don't under understand what that means. Less than what 654 00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:04,640 Speaker 1: less than? I mean they don't think he should be 655 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:07,160 Speaker 1: the highest paid quarterback in the league. Neither do I, 656 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,840 Speaker 1: So I don't. I don't think they should settle for less. 657 00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:14,200 Speaker 1: I think what they're offering him is pretty fair. It 658 00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:17,040 Speaker 1: sounds like they're offering him top five money, maybe number 659 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:23,000 Speaker 1: two overall. Why would that be less if that's what 660 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:25,040 Speaker 1: you're asking unless you are you asking about the off 661 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:27,680 Speaker 1: the field stuff. Are you saying that they want him 662 00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:31,400 Speaker 1: to set up for Like, no, don't think the amount 663 00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:33,760 Speaker 1: of the contract. And I guess even in this instance, 664 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:35,879 Speaker 1: you can factor in the number of years. If they're 665 00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,760 Speaker 1: asking him to go to five years, where he's asking 666 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:41,440 Speaker 1: for four years, knowing that the amount of money that 667 00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:44,280 Speaker 1: quarterbacks may make in that fifth year. If TV contracts 668 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:47,520 Speaker 1: end up being what some expect him to be, then 669 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:49,680 Speaker 1: he may be giving up a substantial amount of money 670 00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:53,680 Speaker 1: in that fifth year of his deal. Like I said before, 671 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,719 Speaker 1: he's fine giving up money. He's already given up a 672 00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:58,880 Speaker 1: lot of money last year. You know, he's trying to 673 00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:01,520 Speaker 1: bet on himself. I don't think, I really don't. I 674 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:04,160 Speaker 1: don't think the Cowboys are asking him to settle for 675 00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:07,840 Speaker 1: left um. It's weird how they take quarterbacks. If you 676 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:11,800 Speaker 1: rank all the quarterbacks in the league just just based 677 00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:15,960 Speaker 1: off ability, even on this show, I don't think is 678 00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:19,799 Speaker 1: Zak is he in the top ten? I think I 679 00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:23,439 Speaker 1: think he's that's back. So he's like he's eight nine 680 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,279 Speaker 1: and ten. I mean, quarterbacks you would want on your 681 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:29,120 Speaker 1: football team. I think he's six seven, eight nine, you know, 682 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,959 Speaker 1: he's in that range. But they're offering him number two money. 683 00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:37,799 Speaker 1: So no, I don't think they're asking him for less, Okay, Amber, No, 684 00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:41,000 Speaker 1: I think yeah. I think they're just asking for a 685 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:44,319 Speaker 1: fair prize. You know. I think that the Cowboys they're 686 00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:47,359 Speaker 1: not trying to be like, oh, we're the upper hand 687 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:50,840 Speaker 1: here and we are the Cowboys. You know. That's initially 688 00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:53,320 Speaker 1: maybe how I started seeing things a little bit, because 689 00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:57,960 Speaker 1: when you talk about UM all these um sponsorships that 690 00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:03,120 Speaker 1: come along just from being part of the Dallas Cowboys, Yeah, 691 00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:06,560 Speaker 1: that plays into the whole thing. But like Todd was 692 00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:09,720 Speaker 1: saying earlier, you can't really use that as leverage because 693 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:13,880 Speaker 1: you can't guarantee that kind of money either. But I 694 00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:17,280 Speaker 1: think the Cowboys are just asking for him to settle 695 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:20,040 Speaker 1: for something that's fair, you know. And I'm too, I 696 00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:25,279 Speaker 1: get on both sides, like from going completely angry to 697 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:29,239 Speaker 1: then being calm, because on one hind, I'm like, you know, what, 698 00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:32,120 Speaker 1: if you think you're this kind of quarterback, then freaking 699 00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:34,879 Speaker 1: go play somewhere else and show it over there with 700 00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,480 Speaker 1: some other people with that kind of money of somebody 701 00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:40,520 Speaker 1: that's willing to pay all that money for you. But 702 00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:44,560 Speaker 1: then I don't know. I just think that I'm on 703 00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:47,240 Speaker 1: the cowboys side on this one right now. That should 704 00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:51,319 Speaker 1: get his money. But he needs to like chill out 705 00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:55,680 Speaker 1: a little bit and be fair, Just be fair. Let 706 00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:57,759 Speaker 1: me just be clear. I am not an agree with 707 00:36:57,800 --> 00:36:59,600 Speaker 1: you that you let him go and play somewhere else. 708 00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:03,120 Speaker 1: I'm not ready to go back. That's That's what I 709 00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:05,120 Speaker 1: get angry, you know. And then I go back to 710 00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:09,120 Speaker 1: calming down. Yeah, they got a quarterback. You not let 711 00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:11,439 Speaker 1: him walk. You need to figure this out because I'm 712 00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:13,760 Speaker 1: not wanting to go back to the days of looking 713 00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:17,919 Speaker 1: for a quarterback, Dave, what are your thought? Tom? By 714 00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:21,359 Speaker 1: the very nature of the conversation, they are asking him 715 00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:24,120 Speaker 1: to take less money. That is what's happening. And I'm 716 00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:26,879 Speaker 1: not here to convince you that he's worth it. Your 717 00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:28,880 Speaker 1: opinion doesn't matter to me. We're all going to have 718 00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:31,440 Speaker 1: different ones and that's fine. But they're asking him to 719 00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:34,680 Speaker 1: take less money because this is how quarterbacks markets work. 720 00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:39,360 Speaker 1: Derek carr Kirk cousins, Jimmy Garoppolo, all got to the 721 00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:43,120 Speaker 1: top of the market, all had done significantly less than 722 00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:46,200 Speaker 1: Dak Prescott when they got that money. Jimmy Garoppolo got 723 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:49,479 Speaker 1: it off the strength of eight starts. They were asking 724 00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:52,200 Speaker 1: him to take less money. Quarterbacks set the market when 725 00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:54,720 Speaker 1: they get paid. That's what's happened for a decade, actually 726 00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:57,080 Speaker 1: more than a decade. And if they don't want to 727 00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:59,680 Speaker 1: pay it, that's fine. If they don't want to do that, 728 00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:02,160 Speaker 1: that's they're prerogative. I think it'll look like a bargain 729 00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:05,879 Speaker 1: in eighteen months. I don't understand the quibbling over two 730 00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:09,480 Speaker 1: million dollars per year. If he wants thirty five, freaking 731 00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:12,000 Speaker 1: give him thirty five, because it'll be forty two when 732 00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:16,160 Speaker 1: when Mahomes is his money in six months anyway, So again, 733 00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,359 Speaker 1: not trying to convince anybody he's worth it, but they 734 00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,879 Speaker 1: are asking him to take less. That's exactly what they're doing, 735 00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:25,160 Speaker 1: right if you're the Cowboys Boys. Uh sorry, I was 736 00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:27,439 Speaker 1: just gonna say, if the Cowboys trust him so much 737 00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:30,120 Speaker 1: and they want him to be the quarterback of the 738 00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:33,880 Speaker 1: future so badly, then why not just freaking paint him 739 00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:39,560 Speaker 1: then and just like, okay, question because of what Day said, though, 740 00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:44,040 Speaker 1: those teams messed up, Like why should you why should 741 00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:46,719 Speaker 1: you just say, all right, well the Raiders pay Derek Carr. 742 00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:50,680 Speaker 1: Bad move because he's not he wasn't worth it, Garoppolo, 743 00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:53,920 Speaker 1: We'll see, we'll see if that if that's worth it 744 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:57,960 Speaker 1: or not. I mean, I think super Bowl And who's 745 00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:00,640 Speaker 1: the other guy you mentioned, Kirk Cuz, I mean these guys, 746 00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:05,040 Speaker 1: Why did the Cowboys follow their lead? I mean, I don't. 747 00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:06,880 Speaker 1: I don't think you have to do that just because 748 00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:09,000 Speaker 1: the other team. Just that's the quarterback market. I mean, 749 00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:10,960 Speaker 1: I think they're I don't think they're asking him to 750 00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:12,960 Speaker 1: take class. I really don't. I think they're asking him 751 00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:16,000 Speaker 1: to take You know, he's been a pretty good quarterback, 752 00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:18,000 Speaker 1: but they're going to pay him like he's one of 753 00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:21,480 Speaker 1: the elite quarterbacks. He's not elague yet he hasn't proven. 754 00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:25,719 Speaker 1: I mean the vikings of they made the playoffs and 755 00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:27,880 Speaker 1: won a game last year, and they were in contention 756 00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:31,360 Speaker 1: the year before that. They have an absolutely loaded roster 757 00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:35,680 Speaker 1: regardless of Cousins money. Like Cousins deal didn't top him 758 00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:39,080 Speaker 1: from signing feeling digs. I know they traded him but 759 00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:41,879 Speaker 1: they gave him money first. They got Daniel Hunter making 760 00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:43,480 Speaker 1: money on the other side of the ball. They got 761 00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:46,879 Speaker 1: Harrison Smith. They got all these great players, and they're 762 00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:49,399 Speaker 1: still paying cousins. I know, you know, the Niners kind 763 00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:52,080 Speaker 1: of caught lightning in a bottle because they got such 764 00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:55,239 Speaker 1: a good draft class because Garoppolo got hurt, but his 765 00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:57,239 Speaker 1: money is still not getting in the way of them 766 00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:59,920 Speaker 1: having an absolutely loaded roster. I don't think they made 767 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:04,200 Speaker 1: mistake at all. I mean, if if Garoppolo hits a 768 00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:06,080 Speaker 1: deep ball in the fourth quarter of the Super Bowl, 769 00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:08,720 Speaker 1: after the Golden Boy Pat Mahomes throws a Super Bowl, 770 00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:11,360 Speaker 1: I mean it throws a Super Bowl throws an interception, 771 00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:14,040 Speaker 1: then we're talking about how the Niners are this amazing 772 00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:16,400 Speaker 1: team that won a Super Bowl. Jimmy g I definitely 773 00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:19,440 Speaker 1: don't think they messed up by signing him. So so 774 00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:22,400 Speaker 1: basically what you're saying is you're just saying that Cowboys 775 00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:25,400 Speaker 1: should pay Dak higher than Russell Wilson right now now, 776 00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:27,200 Speaker 1: because it's his turn and he should be a number 777 00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:30,040 Speaker 1: one quarterback in the league, right I mean, that's that's 778 00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:33,680 Speaker 1: what they should do, because that's what Stafford was number 779 00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:36,680 Speaker 1: one at one point. If that's what it takes to 780 00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:40,120 Speaker 1: get it done. Hell yeah, I guess I'll say this. 781 00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:44,160 Speaker 1: It ain't oh sorry, go ahead, no goad, go ahead day, 782 00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:49,960 Speaker 1: it's these are these are not like these are fine numbers. 783 00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:54,560 Speaker 1: Stack will be sixth in salary by the twenty twenty 784 00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:57,680 Speaker 1: one season. And I know COVID nineteen kind of throws 785 00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:00,120 Speaker 1: a wrench into some of these plans. But Todd was 786 00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:03,200 Speaker 1: absolutely right in the first segment. They're gonna negotiate these 787 00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:05,560 Speaker 1: TV deals in the next year, and they're gonna start 788 00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:08,400 Speaker 1: hitting in the next two to three years, and the 789 00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:12,000 Speaker 1: money is going to absolutely roll in. So I just 790 00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:14,839 Speaker 1: don't think this is going to hurt the Cowboys cap 791 00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:17,960 Speaker 1: the way that some people think it would. I will 792 00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:20,320 Speaker 1: say this, I do think it's one or the other. 793 00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:22,799 Speaker 1: If you're not willing to if you want to go 794 00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:25,400 Speaker 1: Nick's route and say no, we're not gonna set the 795 00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:29,960 Speaker 1: market with our quarterback, and your quarterback is hardcore that 796 00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:33,280 Speaker 1: he wants to get that kind of deal, then eventually 797 00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:35,480 Speaker 1: you're gonna lose him, because, as Todd said, if you 798 00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:37,640 Speaker 1: let him play on the cap on the tag this year, 799 00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:40,799 Speaker 1: you may be starting the Wills and Motion of the 800 00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:43,680 Speaker 1: divorce from your quarterback, because by next year that tag 801 00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:45,560 Speaker 1: number is thirty eight, and by the year after that 802 00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:48,279 Speaker 1: it's in the fifties, and it's not worth doing anymore. Right, 803 00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:51,439 Speaker 1: So you're in a situation where if your quarterback keeps 804 00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:53,840 Speaker 1: playing hardball on that, then you find yourself in a 805 00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:57,280 Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins situation. And so if you're gonna play hardball 806 00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:59,440 Speaker 1: back and say we're not going to set the market 807 00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:01,879 Speaker 1: with you, then what's going to eventually happen is you're 808 00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:03,440 Speaker 1: going to be back in the market of trying to 809 00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:05,520 Speaker 1: find a quarterback. So how important is it to you 810 00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:08,520 Speaker 1: to not set the market? That's I guess the biggest issue, 811 00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:10,600 Speaker 1: because if you think this guy's a quarterback of the 812 00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:12,680 Speaker 1: future for your team, you think he's good enough to 813 00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:15,040 Speaker 1: get you to the promised Land, are you willing to 814 00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:17,160 Speaker 1: go back to the well and try to find another 815 00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:23,399 Speaker 1: guy that you think is equally good or better. Oh 816 00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:27,720 Speaker 1: there's out there too. Is there scenario where that plays 817 00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:30,160 Speaker 1: on the tag and is cheap in twenty twenty one, 818 00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:34,440 Speaker 1: because we're talking about potentially paying him to set the 819 00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:37,960 Speaker 1: market after an eight and eight season, So they would 820 00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:39,759 Speaker 1: have to be like I mean they would. They would 821 00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:42,520 Speaker 1: have to be substantially terrible for him to have a 822 00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:46,000 Speaker 1: lower asking price next year. I mean, you know, the 823 00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:49,279 Speaker 1: roster looked goody. I'm not saying they might not even 824 00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:51,359 Speaker 1: make the playoffs, but I would be shocked if they're 825 00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:54,680 Speaker 1: so bad that his asking price just comes way down. 826 00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:58,239 Speaker 1: I don't think I buy that at all. Romo got 827 00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:00,960 Speaker 1: his deal back in twenty thirteen after three straight or 828 00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:04,960 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, two straight eight and eight seasons, So I 829 00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:08,080 Speaker 1: just I don't think the price goes down no matter what. 830 00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:10,520 Speaker 1: So you might as well just eat it now in 831 00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:13,400 Speaker 1: my opinion. All right, let's get to the third and 832 00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:16,839 Speaker 1: final theory here, gets you have something right there? No 833 00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:19,799 Speaker 1: go ahead? Okay, third final theory. Prescott should realize how 834 00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:22,080 Speaker 1: much he makes off the field, Nick, let's start with you. 835 00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:26,360 Speaker 1: I do, and I think he does. I think he 836 00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:29,000 Speaker 1: does realize that, like we said before the thirty you know, 837 00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:32,560 Speaker 1: to not to not play last year on you know, 838 00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:35,000 Speaker 1: to take a deal in the thirty thirty three range 839 00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:37,000 Speaker 1: and to play on two million A. Yeah, I think 840 00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:41,399 Speaker 1: he does. Should that fact him into his asking price? 841 00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:46,399 Speaker 1: It should not factor into his asking price. But if 842 00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:50,520 Speaker 1: I'm the Cowboys, I know that, and so like this 843 00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:53,680 Speaker 1: is the deal, like this, this is I think the 844 00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:57,040 Speaker 1: Cowboys can can use it as their own negotiation to 845 00:43:57,040 --> 00:44:00,560 Speaker 1: say we can stand firm on this. Um. You you're 846 00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:03,239 Speaker 1: making a lot more money here, So if you want to, 847 00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:04,960 Speaker 1: if you want to go and get forty million a 848 00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:07,239 Speaker 1: year to play for another team, that's fine. But at 849 00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:09,600 Speaker 1: the end of the day, you won't make more money. 850 00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:13,360 Speaker 1: So I think if I'm the Cowboys, I would I 851 00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:17,200 Speaker 1: would definitely use it as my negotiation. I definitely would, 852 00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:22,439 Speaker 1: for sure. Ember I don't think. I don't. I don't 853 00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:27,800 Speaker 1: know if his agent and him have done this already 854 00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:30,800 Speaker 1: or not, but if it was me, I would literally 855 00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:34,000 Speaker 1: sit down with the numbers of Okay, this is what 856 00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:37,040 Speaker 1: the offer is that they're giving you. Is it fair? 857 00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:39,200 Speaker 1: Number one, Because at the same time, I don't care 858 00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:41,920 Speaker 1: how much money you're making from sponsors At the end 859 00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:44,280 Speaker 1: of the day, you need to feel like you're getting 860 00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:47,919 Speaker 1: paid at fair price for what you're doing. But now, 861 00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:50,520 Speaker 1: on top of that, what's the amount that you're making 862 00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:53,160 Speaker 1: from sponsorships? What are the estimate when you add these 863 00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:55,960 Speaker 1: two together. Looking at that you know is it and 864 00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:59,400 Speaker 1: thinking okay, can you even top the total amount of 865 00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:03,240 Speaker 1: money if you were playing for another team and consider 866 00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:06,200 Speaker 1: and take that into consideration. I'm not saying that the 867 00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:10,080 Speaker 1: Cowboys should use that as leverage, but more from Dak's party, 868 00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:13,319 Speaker 1: they should be smart enough to analyze that whole thing, 869 00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:16,200 Speaker 1: add up the numbers, and figure out like, Okay, maybe 870 00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:19,680 Speaker 1: we do settle here, maybe we play for this prize 871 00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:23,120 Speaker 1: be fair. But then at the same time, we're well 872 00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:25,600 Speaker 1: aware of all the other money that's coming in from 873 00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:29,920 Speaker 1: other sides. So I think that they that definitely plays 874 00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:35,480 Speaker 1: a role into the whole thing. Okay, I don't have 875 00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:38,000 Speaker 1: a great answer to this. I can see both sides 876 00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:40,200 Speaker 1: of it. I mean, you know, obviously it's good to 877 00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:42,520 Speaker 1: be the starting quarterback of the Dallas Cowboys. It pays 878 00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:46,799 Speaker 1: a lot of money, a lot of visibility, And if 879 00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:48,759 Speaker 1: I were Dak, I would definitely have that in the 880 00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:50,840 Speaker 1: back of my mind, like do I really want to 881 00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:54,440 Speaker 1: go somewhere else and not be the most visible quarterback 882 00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:58,800 Speaker 1: in the sport. But at the same time, the guys, 883 00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:02,080 Speaker 1: you know, every time in the NFL game goes to commercials, 884 00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:05,920 Speaker 1: you're inundated with State Farm Insurance commercials with Patrick Mahomes 885 00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:09,120 Speaker 1: and Aaron Rodgers. Those guys play in Kansas City and 886 00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:12,160 Speaker 1: Green Bay, which are probably the two smallest markets in 887 00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:17,120 Speaker 1: the NFL. Point being, they had to day, but they 888 00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:20,239 Speaker 1: had to win championships to get no, they had to 889 00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:23,160 Speaker 1: be good, and Mahomes won the MVP. He started getting 890 00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:25,960 Speaker 1: all that. He won the MVP and started getting all 891 00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:27,920 Speaker 1: that before he won the Super Bowl. You had to 892 00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:32,200 Speaker 1: be the best quarterback in the league to get them, well, 893 00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:35,879 Speaker 1: but Dak found Dak turned down a long term deal 894 00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:38,279 Speaker 1: and bet on himself. Like Dak believes that he can 895 00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:42,160 Speaker 1: pull that off. A quarterback probably does those hyper competitive 896 00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:44,080 Speaker 1: I think that's all great, but I think I want 897 00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:46,880 Speaker 1: to be clear about that though. I think the different series. 898 00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:51,600 Speaker 1: Dak has all of these different endorsements, and he's won 899 00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:54,960 Speaker 1: what one playoff game? Those guys had to be MVP 900 00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:57,879 Speaker 1: of the league and or win championships to get that 901 00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:02,120 Speaker 1: level of other Right, you have to be very good 902 00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:05,480 Speaker 1: to pull it off outside of the Cowboys market. Agreed. 903 00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:09,600 Speaker 1: I'm just saying you can do it. So I think 904 00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:11,279 Speaker 1: Dak would be smart to keep that in the back 905 00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:14,200 Speaker 1: of his mind. But I wouldn't settle for less because 906 00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:17,880 Speaker 1: I have all of that on the table. Basically, I 907 00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:19,560 Speaker 1: guess the way I look at it is, I do 908 00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:21,319 Speaker 1: think it has to be factored in. I agree with them, 909 00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:22,680 Speaker 1: but I think it has to be factored in on 910 00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:25,319 Speaker 1: both sides, because I do think for the quarterback, he's 911 00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:27,239 Speaker 1: got to look at it and say, Okay, I can 912 00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:30,080 Speaker 1: take forty million dollars flat rate from another team that 913 00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:31,759 Speaker 1: may be willing to pay me that if I get 914 00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:33,399 Speaker 1: to that point in my career where I can make 915 00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:36,200 Speaker 1: that decision. But on the flip side of that, if 916 00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:39,000 Speaker 1: I'm passing up a thirty five million dollars deal, your 917 00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:41,719 Speaker 1: deal with the Cowboys, and as a part of the Cowboys, 918 00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:44,160 Speaker 1: I'm going to get an extra ten million dollars a 919 00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:46,799 Speaker 1: year in endorsements, it's gonna put me at forty five. 920 00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:50,239 Speaker 1: And being in I'm just gonna throw out Cleveland. Let's 921 00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:52,680 Speaker 1: say I'm only gonna make that forty I ain't making 922 00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:57,600 Speaker 1: an extra penny for endorsements. Now I'm looking at it 923 00:47:57,640 --> 00:47:59,600 Speaker 1: as Dak and I'm saying, you know, maybe this is 924 00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:01,440 Speaker 1: a great deal. At thirty five. No one I can 925 00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:04,120 Speaker 1: get that extra ten and endorsements that I can't get 926 00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:08,560 Speaker 1: necessarily an these other places. Yeah, but it wasn't Cleveland's 927 00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:11,920 Speaker 1: with a grand total euro playoff wins all over the 928 00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:15,040 Speaker 1: commercials for the NFL last year. I think it was 929 00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:19,440 Speaker 1: progressive in every single one. A lot of that had 930 00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:20,840 Speaker 1: to do with the fact he was also a Higsman 931 00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:23,000 Speaker 1: Trophy win or that a high profile coming into the 932 00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:27,640 Speaker 1: NFL that matters as well, right, that doesn't have that 933 00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:32,200 Speaker 1: resident I think, you know, I think it just comes 934 00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:35,000 Speaker 1: down to kind of what she just said, and what 935 00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:37,919 Speaker 1: you're saying is that it's it's all about it's about 936 00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:40,359 Speaker 1: his team figuring that out. It's just like if any 937 00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:44,000 Speaker 1: any of us were looking at a job, the offer is, 938 00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:45,640 Speaker 1: you know, is what it is, then you have to 939 00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:48,760 Speaker 1: factor in the other things that you know about and 940 00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:50,719 Speaker 1: and you know and and at the end of the 941 00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:52,800 Speaker 1: day add it all up, because if you're going to 942 00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:54,920 Speaker 1: leave all that on the table, and you guys are right, 943 00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:58,560 Speaker 1: I mean, small market quarterbacks, can you know you can 944 00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:00,680 Speaker 1: you can still you can beat market boll I mean, 945 00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:03,200 Speaker 1: I think if his name was John Prescott, I think 946 00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:05,080 Speaker 1: I don't think it would be the same as it's Dak. 947 00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:07,799 Speaker 1: It's just easy to say. It's easy. He's got, you know, 948 00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:11,279 Speaker 1: a marketable face, he's just you know, he's got he's 949 00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:18,240 Speaker 1: got y. Yeah. I mean if if if Patrick Mahomes 950 00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:20,400 Speaker 1: shaved his head when he first got into the league, 951 00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:22,480 Speaker 1: he may not have as many deals, he wouldn't have 952 00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:25,680 Speaker 1: as many deals, he wouldn't have that um that head 953 00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:29,720 Speaker 1: and shoulders with. So I'm just saying it's about market 954 00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:32,160 Speaker 1: and I think Dad would go to another place and 955 00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:35,600 Speaker 1: he could think about it. In all of sports, every sport, 956 00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:38,240 Speaker 1: you just say, Dak, you know who you're talking about. 957 00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:42,200 Speaker 1: I mean, that's that says something. It's like shock, It's 958 00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:44,759 Speaker 1: like Kobe. You know, you gotta be really good if 959 00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:47,040 Speaker 1: your name is Michael and you and you're the you 960 00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:50,239 Speaker 1: know the best, and he is. But I'm just saying, 961 00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:54,040 Speaker 1: you know, I just think they all you guys can 962 00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:55,799 Speaker 1: you know he can get it done. He can go 963 00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:57,520 Speaker 1: to another place and make more money. But I think 964 00:49:57,560 --> 00:50:00,320 Speaker 1: he's got a factor in everything that. I think he 965 00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:02,719 Speaker 1: does factor it in. He knows what he's making. Yeah. 966 00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:05,239 Speaker 1: I'll end the conversation, Nick with something that you told 967 00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:07,080 Speaker 1: me yesterday we were talking on the phone about this. 968 00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:11,160 Speaker 1: You mentioned the fact that do you factor in whether 969 00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:13,759 Speaker 1: it's there's a state income tax wherever you're playing, and 970 00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:16,160 Speaker 1: certainly you do because that's going to affect the amount 971 00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:17,920 Speaker 1: of money you bring home. So in the same way 972 00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:20,160 Speaker 1: you would factor that in, you would factor this in 973 00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:23,319 Speaker 1: because it's additional revenue that you can generate based upon 974 00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:26,239 Speaker 1: your performance and based upon your your job. So yeah, 975 00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:28,000 Speaker 1: I think it's short suddenly it should be factored in. 976 00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:29,759 Speaker 1: I don't know that it changes at the end of 977 00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:32,959 Speaker 1: the day, you know, kind of what the Cowboys offer. 978 00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:36,120 Speaker 1: I do think it should affect. It should affect what 979 00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:39,319 Speaker 1: Dak is willing to accept, knowing what his opportunities are 980 00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:42,680 Speaker 1: to make money outside of justice job as he's making 981 00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:45,960 Speaker 1: this decision. Does this aging? Does this kind of aging? 982 00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:49,200 Speaker 1: I don't know. I know there are different agents that 983 00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:52,680 Speaker 1: do different things, But does the agent that deals with 984 00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:59,160 Speaker 1: his contract also deals with contracts coming from sponsors. I 985 00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:01,279 Speaker 1: assume that's differ from for every player, but a lot 986 00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:04,240 Speaker 1: of the players are with agencies, So there's an agent 987 00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:06,640 Speaker 1: that's primarily responsible for this, and there may be another 988 00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:09,279 Speaker 1: part of that agency that also takes care that takes 989 00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:12,239 Speaker 1: care of their sponsorship. So yes, the agency typically is 990 00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:14,080 Speaker 1: involved in all that. It may not be the same 991 00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:17,360 Speaker 1: person negotiating all those I mean maybe wonder I'm like, Okay, 992 00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:21,640 Speaker 1: is this agent kind of more focused on what percentage 993 00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:27,200 Speaker 1: is getting out of this kind of contract versus sponsorship contracts, 994 00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:29,279 Speaker 1: you know, because I know there are different agents out there, 995 00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:31,200 Speaker 1: so I don't know, it's just another thing that you 996 00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:35,640 Speaker 1: kind of maybe wonder about David. You're gonna say some 997 00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:40,319 Speaker 1: of that. I mean, he's got for five people. I've 998 00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:43,680 Speaker 1: met a couple over the years. I don't think Todd 999 00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:47,320 Speaker 1: France guy that wouldn't negotiate that, But I'm also not sure. 1000 00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:52,520 Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, it's a good point. And it definitely 1001 00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:55,160 Speaker 1: is a good point because you're right, individuals kind of 1002 00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:57,800 Speaker 1: kind of work looking for themselves is looking out themselves 1003 00:51:57,800 --> 00:51:59,960 Speaker 1: as well. So maybe a situation where an agent is 1004 00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:02,520 Speaker 1: thinking about their own percentage versus what it means for 1005 00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:05,879 Speaker 1: DAK will growl. And also I'll say this about about 1006 00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:09,399 Speaker 1: the actual contract. I mean, Dave mentioned some of these 1007 00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:13,080 Speaker 1: other deals in the past, the Stafford, Cousins, Garoppolo, whatever 1008 00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:16,600 Speaker 1: happens here with Dak, Like this, this contract is going 1009 00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:19,920 Speaker 1: to be used by other agents, by other teams, you know, 1010 00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:22,799 Speaker 1: this offseason, next offseason, two or three down the road. 1011 00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:26,279 Speaker 1: So like it's very important in the in the you know, 1012 00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:29,480 Speaker 1: I guess the fraternity of agents they got. They got 1013 00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:31,399 Speaker 1: to make sure that this deal is on part two 1014 00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:33,920 Speaker 1: for the next guy and keep it going and not 1015 00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:36,920 Speaker 1: let you know, not get a bargain deal. 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So what you got 1058 00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:13,640 Speaker 1: between the two new coordinators joining the staff? Which side 1059 00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:22,480 Speaker 1: of the football see change improvement? Efficaly elevated all performance 1060 00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:32,560 Speaker 1: of this expectation seem twenty twenty anybody, Sorry, I'm not. 1061 00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:35,000 Speaker 1: I mean, the offense is the most exciting part because 1062 00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:38,279 Speaker 1: you got Lamb and you've got McCarthy, and you know 1063 00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:41,720 Speaker 1: Dak is supposed to take a jump blah blah blah, 1064 00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:43,760 Speaker 1: Like the team's gonna go as far as the offense. 1065 00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:46,759 Speaker 1: But I'm way more intrigued by the defense because of 1066 00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:51,239 Speaker 1: the expertise that Mike Nolan has, because of the intriguing 1067 00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:53,440 Speaker 1: new parts that they have, and the fact that defense 1068 00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:57,360 Speaker 1: was such a weak spot last year. So yeah, defense, 1069 00:55:57,480 --> 00:56:01,799 Speaker 1: just because it's so much more new. I'm actually going 1070 00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:04,440 Speaker 1: to change up the question a little bit and say 1071 00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:07,160 Speaker 1: special teams. I'm well, I'm way more intrigued about what 1072 00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:09,160 Speaker 1: the new special teams coordinators got to be able to 1073 00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:11,240 Speaker 1: provide because I think it was an area of problems 1074 00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:13,279 Speaker 1: for them last year, and I think they went out 1075 00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:16,200 Speaker 1: and got what a lot of people believe is one of, 1076 00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:19,480 Speaker 1: if not the best special teams coordinator in the league. 1077 00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:23,520 Speaker 1: So I'm really interested to see how he changes what 1078 00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:26,640 Speaker 1: they're doing on special teams because of the level of 1079 00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:29,640 Speaker 1: experience that he has and love of expertise that he has, 1080 00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:32,279 Speaker 1: That's where I'm most intrigued to see. What I'm most 1081 00:56:32,239 --> 00:56:36,479 Speaker 1: intreat to see to say, offense, because I do think 1082 00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:39,600 Speaker 1: that their offense needs to be better, and you know, 1083 00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:42,920 Speaker 1: against against the really good defenses. I mean, yeah, when 1084 00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:45,759 Speaker 1: when they scored thirty points or more, they won every game, 1085 00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:48,279 Speaker 1: but they didn't always score thirty points or more. They 1086 00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:50,399 Speaker 1: didn't always get there, and I think that they had 1087 00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:53,680 Speaker 1: some challenges when they faced teams that were more aggressive 1088 00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:57,080 Speaker 1: than they were, bigger and stronger, and so they're going 1089 00:56:57,120 --> 00:56:59,920 Speaker 1: to have to be able to figure those things out too. 1090 00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:03,399 Speaker 1: So I'll say offense is what I'm intrigued about, because, 1091 00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:05,799 Speaker 1: like Dave said, that's where all the weapons are. That's 1092 00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:07,719 Speaker 1: what's really going to have to carry the team. I 1093 00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:10,480 Speaker 1: still think they can be a little bit better and 1094 00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:14,360 Speaker 1: more consistent through the year. Well, let's talk about the 1095 00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:17,120 Speaker 1: defense a little more. And obviously there are a lot 1096 00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:19,520 Speaker 1: of things that we don't know just yet. But in 1097 00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:23,720 Speaker 1: your opinion, who will be the most impactful player in 1098 00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:28,360 Speaker 1: the whole defense outside of DeMarcus Lawrence as far as talent, 1099 00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:36,520 Speaker 1: really Hope and Smith just because of what an awesome Well, 1100 00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:38,400 Speaker 1: first of all, it would be an incredible story. I 1101 00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:40,960 Speaker 1: mean for a guy to have that much go wrong 1102 00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:43,360 Speaker 1: and disappear from the game for that long and come 1103 00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:46,000 Speaker 1: back and make an impact. Not only would it be 1104 00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:50,280 Speaker 1: a cool story, you know as a reporter, but it 1105 00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:54,360 Speaker 1: would mean really good things for this defense. Hopefully if 1106 00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:56,840 Speaker 1: you have a guy like that that can get sacks 1107 00:57:56,840 --> 00:58:03,400 Speaker 1: and make life easier on DeMarcus Jaylen Smith, I think 1108 00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:06,240 Speaker 1: he's the most important guy. Um not only does he 1109 00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:09,800 Speaker 1: play right there, you know, at the not in the 1110 00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:12,720 Speaker 1: middle linebacker spot, but he played linebacker where he's you know, 1111 00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:15,520 Speaker 1: around the ball a lot. And when he's playing well 1112 00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:18,520 Speaker 1: and they can get him to play at a high level, 1113 00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:20,840 Speaker 1: then I think he could be really good for this team. 1114 00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:23,520 Speaker 1: But you know, if if they can't figure out how 1115 00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:27,600 Speaker 1: to make him a really consistent, productive player, well, then 1116 00:58:27,640 --> 00:58:30,560 Speaker 1: he could be a weak spot. So I think that, 1117 00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:33,280 Speaker 1: you know, it's gonna be very, very important to figure 1118 00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:36,800 Speaker 1: out the best way to make Jalen Smith an impact player, 1119 00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:40,840 Speaker 1: a positive impact player. You know. I would go with 1120 00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:44,080 Speaker 1: Layton Vandersch, his mate there at linebacker. I look at 1121 00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:46,400 Speaker 1: what Layton was doing two years ago before the injury. 1122 00:58:46,520 --> 00:58:50,440 Speaker 1: Last year, he was playing outstanding football and he was 1123 00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:53,280 Speaker 1: he was one of those players that made plays where 1124 00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:56,120 Speaker 1: there wasn't necessarily a play there. He would do things 1125 00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:58,760 Speaker 1: that could kind of change games. He would do things 1126 00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:02,000 Speaker 1: that would get of the Cowboys, you know, kind of 1127 00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:04,240 Speaker 1: that that boost at certain points and games that they 1128 00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:07,840 Speaker 1: needed that critical play. Right. Um, I think I think 1129 00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:09,840 Speaker 1: he's going to be the guy if he's healthy, and 1130 00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:12,800 Speaker 1: I'm assuming he is. I'm gonna trust everybody's word, his 1131 00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:16,240 Speaker 1: and the organization's word until I see different that he's 1132 00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:18,280 Speaker 1: healthy and ready to go. And if that's the case, 1133 00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:20,840 Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be one of the best players 1134 00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:22,320 Speaker 1: on this defense. I think he'll be one of the 1135 00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:24,640 Speaker 1: biggest playmakers. He'll be one of the guys we're talking 1136 00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:27,320 Speaker 1: about after games that made plays that change the game. 1137 00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:34,360 Speaker 1: I hope you're right, and it's not usually not, but 1138 00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:38,880 Speaker 1: I hope it is not one of those, uh reoccurring things, 1139 00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:41,880 Speaker 1: because we know he's been dealing with it ever since college. 1140 00:59:42,040 --> 00:59:45,480 Speaker 1: So hopefully it's nothing that that will keep him out 1141 00:59:45,480 --> 00:59:47,960 Speaker 1: of the game for you know, or something that will 1142 00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:51,280 Speaker 1: keep him dealing with Nick problems all throughout the rest 1143 00:59:51,320 --> 00:59:55,960 Speaker 1: of his career. But it problems or neck problems. Say 1144 00:59:56,080 --> 01:00:00,600 Speaker 1: neck problems? Did you say Nick problems? Both? Like, yeah, right, 1145 01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:07,240 Speaker 1: that's a problem too. But all right, all right, that's 1146 01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:08,960 Speaker 1: a good question. I think we're gonna have time for 1147 01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:11,560 Speaker 1: We went home on that conversation around dak which is 1148 01:00:11,600 --> 01:00:13,560 Speaker 1: really good though. I appreciate you guys taking some time 1149 01:00:13,560 --> 01:00:15,600 Speaker 1: to do that, and we appreciate you guys joining us today. 1150 01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:17,840 Speaker 1: We moved back next week at our normal time eleven 1151 01:00:17,880 --> 01:00:20,840 Speaker 1: am Central till then. For Nick Eatman, Amber Garcia, Dave Helmet, 1152 01:00:20,840 --> 01:00:23,439 Speaker 1: I'm Derrek Eagleton. This has been The Break live on 1153 01:00:23,560 --> 01:00:30,440 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. 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