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Speaker 1: You have to inform your renters if you're going to

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Speaker 1: I think she's taken three days to frame Opien.

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Speaker 1: Nick already knew I took the supplies and I don't

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Speaker 1: this has gone too far, Yes, it has. He told

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Speaker 1: Right that night, Stacey blew up my phone, calling me

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Speaker 1: to frame me for theft. Yeah. Period. She tried to

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Speaker 1: texted a lot of nonsense, but I just kept mentioning

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Speaker 1: Just top her profile, just tap it and there is

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Speaker 1: a little bit left the story. But I don't. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: just they've just been like saying so many negative things

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Speaker 2: doing negative things. They're doing the negative things, like that's

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Speaker 1: And Op is just a news reporter, yeah, reporting on

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Speaker 1: the situation, yep, and trying to frame you.

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Speaker 2: Shouldn't you know, you can't. You can't frame a reporter.

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Speaker 2: Can't that the truth will come out? Yes, it will,

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Speaker 2: But there is a little bit more to the story.

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Speaker 2: Let's see fast forward a week. Nick texts me that

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Speaker 2: I need to change the passwords from the system and

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Speaker 2: to take Stacy out. He was changing the locks and

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Speaker 2: access coaches to everything because he fired Stacy, which they

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but he said that this wasn't the first time

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Speaker 2: The last time we hung out, I had some friends.

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Speaker 2: I offered twenty dollars, but then my friends saw I

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Speaker 2: I agreed, since I couldn't say I didn't have money

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Speaker 2: since they saw it. Yeah, but you don't have to

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Speaker 2: be like, sorry, that's I don't want to I'm not

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Like you don't have.

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Speaker 2: To be like incapable of participating, Like you could just

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Speaker 1: I mean, like the hook, I've got money in my

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Speaker 2: To me, right, They're like, oh, you can't load me

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Speaker 2: Over, yes, So I agreed, since I couldn't say I

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Speaker 1: You gotta find better friends, I'm sorry, simply simply find

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Speaker 1: better friends. Yeah, you can't. You can't keep doing this.

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Speaker 2: I didn't hear from them the money that weekend, but

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Speaker 2: I uncomfortably reached out today to see where they were,

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Speaker 2: admit I bit off more than I could chew, but

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Speaker 2: it's too late to cancel, and I was looking forward

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Speaker 2: to this as it's my first holiday in a while

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Speaker 2: that I am free. They're also planning to bring two

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Speaker 2: a dish to pass, and I've already prepared myself for

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Speaker 2: the awkward conversation that they can't take all of the

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Speaker 1: Screwed side No, no, okay, your friends suck. Yes, orever,

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Speaker 1: you need to put some boundaries up if you literally

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Speaker 1: don't let them take it. Yeah, it doesn't matter if

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Speaker 1: they saw it. Just say sorry. I can't afford that

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Speaker 1: right now, right.

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Speaker 2: I spoke with a few friends and family members about

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Speaker 2: several people pointed out that my closer friend of the

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Speaker 2: two has been openly disrespectful to my face on occasion,

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Speaker 2: and that they have thought that they've been taking financial

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Speaker 2: she doesn't think they actually care about me, and that

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Speaker 1: But unfortunately I think that's true. I think, Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: hard because, like I guess, I don't know how it

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Speaker 2: But I mean, if they're if they were not a

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Speaker 2: those six years and then now maybe they're just like

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Speaker 1: For all that time.

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Speaker 2: You know, like I don't know, it goes to show

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Speaker 2: that those friends came back, because that doesn't always happen,

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Speaker 1: Like they might. Yeah, like it seems like they might

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Speaker 1: just be staying for that. Like maybe they came back

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Speaker 1: and that's nice and whatever.

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Speaker 2: But it's like now that you have accustomed them to

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Speaker 2: this lifestyles of leaning on you for food and whatever

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Speaker 2: and whatever you pay for, then yeah, yeah, they're just

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Speaker 2: they're just spoiled now, spoiled so children, that's really sad.

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Speaker 2: But we will always be there for you every weekday

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Speaker 2: at three pm PSD.

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Speaker 1: Just taber profile.

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Speaker 2: We're live on YouTube, TikTok, Facebook, anything else, switch Twitch, Just.

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Speaker 1: Tab her profile. Probably live right now? Yeah, I think, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we actually are. We are We are right now. Literally

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Speaker 1: look at our profile. Stop we're loving. Yeah, there is

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Speaker 1: a little more should we jump into or do you

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Speaker 1: have any comments? Beautiful?

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Speaker 2: I don't want to cast them aside or think the worst. However,

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Speaker 2: one of my friends said I should do a sort

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Speaker 2: fact that I am financially struggling, they'll either pay me

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Speaker 2: they'll understand if I genuinely let them know I can't

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Speaker 2: afford to host them and they're plus two if they

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Speaker 2: can't pay me back. I am a little hurt though,

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Speaker 2: because I have been fully transparent. I'm hurting. I'm doing

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Speaker 1: And they know this.

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Speaker 2: Any advice is much appreciated. Yeah, you need to put

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Speaker 2: your foot down and say I don't have the money

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Speaker 2: to help you guys, and if you pay me back

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Speaker 2: then you can't come right sorry. I think, yeah, I agree.

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Speaker 2: I think that you can be you can be a

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Speaker 1: A bad friendship. Yeah, and she feels bad and she's

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Speaker 1: trying to make up for it and now yeah they're

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Speaker 1: taking advantage. Yeah, and like you know, maybe you're maybe.

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Speaker 2: Op is just like everything has to be good and

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Speaker 2: you can't like put your foot down anything. But there

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Speaker 2: is a good balance that you can do, Like you

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Speaker 2: don't have to be like you don't have to be

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Speaker 2: like super people pleasing to like be a good person

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Speaker 2: or be a good friend.

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Speaker 1: Like you can absolutely set those boundaries for yourself.

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Speaker 2: Because like it's just what the situation like, you just

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Speaker 2: don't have the money, that's literally what it is. You

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Speaker 2: don't even want to partake in that substance. And you

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Speaker 2: paid for them to one hundred and fifty dollars. It's

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Speaker 2: a lot of money because they snooped and asked you

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Speaker 2: to going through your drawers.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a weird.

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Speaker 2: That's crazy. So I think you're You're good. You can

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Speaker 2: still be a good friend. You still people, please, just

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Speaker 2: this situation. You can still put your foot down. But

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Speaker 2: that it's okay. You're not a flamingo.

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Speaker 1: Put that foot down. That's cute things. But that's the

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Speaker 1: end of that story. My friends Beyonce called me under

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Speaker 1: the influence right before their wedding. Now all my friends

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Speaker 1: are ghosting me. That's crazy. That didn't you do He

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Speaker 1: didn't do anything. He didn't do anything. I twenty eight female,

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Speaker 1: used to be best friends with Anna twenty eight female

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Speaker 1: since high school. She was popular and outgoing, while I

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Speaker 1: was the introverted, nerdy friend. In high school, I had

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Speaker 1: a crush on Ethan twenty eight male, but I assumed

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Speaker 1: he'd prefer Anna, so I stayed out of it. They

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Speaker 1: started dating and I supported her with reluctance because of

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Speaker 1: their toxic on and off relationship. Over time, I grew

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Speaker 1: to dislike Ethan because he was rude and mean. By

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Speaker 1: the way, this comes from deleted on the oaky Storytime Separated.

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Speaker 1: It is never let your friends date the guy you like, yeah,

443
00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:59,480
Speaker 1: because you'll hate that. That sounds good. They broke up

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Speaker 1: when we twenty one, but got back together with him

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Speaker 1: a year later, and eventually got engaged at twenty three.

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Speaker 1: Well three months before the wedding. Ethan wastedly called me

447
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Speaker 1: asking why I rejected him. I dismissed him and said

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Speaker 1: he was wasted and ended the call. The very next day,

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Speaker 1: I was kicked out of the group chats and ghosted

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Speaker 1: by everyone else in our friends circle. Oh my god,

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Speaker 1: she didn't reject him. She said she had a crush

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Speaker 1: on Ethan and then he and Anna started dating. Yeah

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Speaker 1: that's so, where is he getting this?

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Speaker 3: Like?

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Speaker 1: Why did you reject me? When I texted my friends

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Speaker 1: to ask what happened, they gave me the silent tream?

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Speaker 1: What the silent treatment is so annoying? Literally just talk

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Speaker 1: about it, say why? Yeah. When I reached out to Anna,

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Speaker 1: I found myself blocked, desperate, I even tried calling Ethan,

460
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Speaker 1: but my number was blocked two. I had no idea

461
00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:55,639
Speaker 1: what I'd done wrong, and I wished anyone would tell me.

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Speaker 1: That week was hell. Anna's silence hurt the most because

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Speaker 1: at the time she meant everything to me. I barely slept,

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00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:06,240
Speaker 1: battling panic attacks at night while trying to keep it

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Speaker 1: together for class during the day. If not for my

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Speaker 1: supportive roommates who helped me through my panic attacks, I

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00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:15,000
Speaker 1: don't know how I would have made it through. Anna

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Speaker 1: and I tended the same local university, but took different classes.

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Speaker 1: I waited for her outside her class. When she came

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Speaker 1: out with her friends, I pulled her aside and asked

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Speaker 1: what was going on. She accused me of being a

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Speaker 1: fake friend who tried to steal Ethan. Of course, I

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Speaker 1: denied her accusation and asked for proof, but she went

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Speaker 1: silent and left. They didn't unfriend me on Facebook, but

475
00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:41,360
Speaker 1: kept posting about their hangouts and their bridle shower, along

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Speaker 1: with indirect jobs at me. I eventually deleted my old

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Speaker 1: account and changed my number. I slowly rebuilt my self

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Speaker 1: esteem and moved on. I recently created a new Facebook

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Speaker 1: account a few days ago. I was added to a

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Speaker 1: group chat for our upcoming reunion, which I had no

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Speaker 1: idea about. They greeted me, calling me class resident, as

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Speaker 1: if they hadn't shunned me six years ago. WHOA wait, wait,

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00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:09,200
Speaker 1: I missed that. Sorry it's been six years. What it's

484
00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:13,920
Speaker 1: been six years? Whoa? Where did that come from? Time jump?

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Speaker 1: I left the group, but they messaged me and I

486
00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:20,119
Speaker 1: kept calling, so I finally picked up out of annoyance.

487
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Speaker 1: He told me that she was sorry for everything and

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Speaker 1: wished for me to come to the class reunion party.

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Speaker 1: The party didn't seem to be complete without the class

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Speaker 1: president every year.

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Speaker 2: True.

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Speaker 1: Oh, he's like, that is true. I guess. She told

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Speaker 1: me that she divorced Ethan after two years of marriage.

494
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,560
Speaker 1: WHOA wow. She tried to reach out to me but

495
00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:44,440
Speaker 1: couldn't find any of my socials or contact info after

496
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Speaker 1: we graduated because you blocked her. Yeah. I asked her

497
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Speaker 1: why she was telling me all this when she was

498
00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:52,879
Speaker 1: not important to me anymore? He cried. I ended the

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Speaker 1: call and continued ignoring their messages on messenger. My family

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Speaker 1: says forgiveness is for my own peace and that it

501
00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:03,840
Speaker 1: doesn't forgetting, But I don't feel anything. Anymore, only indifference.

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Speaker 1: I don't know them anything to ease their guilt. So

503
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Speaker 1: am I the ahole? And there is a PS but pausing, Yeah,

504
00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:18,360
Speaker 1: what do you think? I I don't know. I think like,

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Speaker 1: I don't think you have to forgive. I don't think so.

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Speaker 1: I I think some think if you internally forgiven or

507
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Speaker 1: like you've gotten over it, then you're good. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I don't understand when people say, like, you know, you

509
00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:32,920
Speaker 2: gotta forgive everyone, I like, for yourself.

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Speaker 1: I don't. I honestly don't get that. See. I actually

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Speaker 1: I am a proponent of forgiving for like, let's talk

512
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Speaker 1: about it because I need to. I might need to

513
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Speaker 1: forgive some people only, But my forgive is I don't

514
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Speaker 1: think it always has to be verbalized. I don't think

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Speaker 1: you have to go to someone and say like I

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Speaker 1: give you, right. I think it can just be like, uh,

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Speaker 1: you know what, I forgive this person because I don't

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Speaker 1: want them to occupy space in my mind. Yeah, like

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Speaker 1: simply because I want to move on from that. Right.

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00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:03,000
Speaker 2: But then does that mean that like in your head

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00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:04,440
Speaker 2: you say that it's okay.

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Speaker 3: That what they did what they did?

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Speaker 1: No, because that's what confuses me. I know, I don't

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Speaker 1: think forgiveness is saying that it's okay mm hmm. I

525
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Speaker 1: think that it's always going to be like whatever they

526
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:16,040
Speaker 1: did that wrong was still going to be wrong. Yeah.

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00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:18,440
Speaker 1: I think it's just saying, you know what, like, either

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Speaker 1: it's saying one, I'm allowing us to move on together

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00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 1: from that and we're going to continue to be friends, yeah,

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00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:29,600
Speaker 1: or to I'm allowing myself to move on interesting from

531
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Speaker 1: you interesting. So I think that's the way I think

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00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:35,159
Speaker 1: about it. Okay, So do you think that she should

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Speaker 1: forgive or I think I think I mean, it's been

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Speaker 1: six years, so I think maybe like forgive in the

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Speaker 1: sense that just move on from them. But I don't

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Speaker 1: think she has Yeah, I mean which exactly. I think

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00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:47,640
Speaker 1: she's like, I'm indifferent. I don't really care.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, like if you call it forgiveness or not,

539
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:52,560
Speaker 2: like yeah, she said she's in difference, Like, yeah, I

540
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Speaker 2: don't think it.

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Speaker 1: I think that is to be an issue, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: But I don't think you don't have to be friends

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Speaker 1: with them, especially like it kind of makes sense on

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Speaker 1: Anna's side because and not like saying that it's good

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00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:06,960
Speaker 1: or anything, but it like makes a little bit of sense,

546
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 1: because it's like, oh, her fiance probably told her all

547
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 1: of these lies. That's not Yeah, I mean that's what

548
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,359
Speaker 1: can be assumed. Yeah, I'm sure with all of the

549
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:17,960
Speaker 1: other friends. Yeah. The fact that none of them even

550
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:21,399
Speaker 1: went to talk to piece, yes, I would like that.

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00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 2: I know.

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00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:23,480
Speaker 1: That's unbelievable.

553
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, because that that's a huge thing, like the fact

554
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:28,879
Speaker 2: that they just ghosted without question, with just hearing stuff

555
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:30,720
Speaker 2: from this guy and then it turns out.

556
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 1: Wow, check in right. Ps. I originally posted this in

557
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 1: another main subreddit, but it was deleted. Even now, I

558
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 1: still wonder why I was ghosted and shunned like that.

559
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 1: I want to know the truth, but I'm not sure

560
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,639
Speaker 1: if I can trust any of them. And there is

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Speaker 1: an update. Uh am I the ale for refusing to

562
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:52,120
Speaker 1: forgive my ex best friend and other friends even after

563
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:57,359
Speaker 1: six years later. Okay, interesting. I think I think they're

564
00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:01,480
Speaker 1: they're trying to come back to you because they feel guilty,

565
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:05,399
Speaker 1: but you don't know them anything. Yeah, true, they feel guilty,

566
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 1: but like you've moved on, you've moved on, though that's

567
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 1: on them.

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00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:11,760
Speaker 2: They can figure that out themselves, just like you had

569
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:12,720
Speaker 2: to figure it out yourself.

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00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:16,479
Speaker 1: Exactly. So I wanted to edit my previous post. Just

571
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 1: a quick disclaimer. I created my Facebook account two weeks

572
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 1: ago after mustering the courage from past trauma. I used

573
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:26,440
Speaker 1: fake names and ages for anonymity. In reality, we're all

574
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 1: twenty nine. My friendship with Anna fell apart when I

575
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:32,400
Speaker 1: was twenty three, and now six years later, we're twenty nine.

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00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,160
Speaker 1: That is how that works. I know no one has

577
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:37,919
Speaker 1: noticed this so far, but I just wanted to clarify.

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00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,480
Speaker 1: Some people from my previous posts suggested that I reach

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00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 1: out to Ethan. However, before I could do so, he

580
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:47,960
Speaker 1: reached out to me first. Yesterday, I received a friend

581
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 1: request from him along with the message saying hi in

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00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 1: my messenger. So we talked. He invited me for coffee

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00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 1: this weekend so we could talk about it. I told

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00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 1: him not to push his luck and just answer me.

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00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 1: I asked him about his call that night. Since most

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00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 1: boys were too intimidated to approach me, they often asked

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00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 1: Anna to convey their feelings to me. I was freaking right.

588
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 1: Why I was freaking right? Oh my gosh, Ethan was

589
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 1: one of them. Apparently a lot of boys had a

590
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 1: crush on me back then, but at the time, only

591
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 1: Anna received open confessions, so I assumed I was undesirable,

592
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 1: not that it mattered to me. What a freaking bad friend. Yeah,

593
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 1: what a terrible friend all the guys, it's crazy. Oh man,

594
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:36,080
Speaker 1: I was foolishly infatuated with Anna, so much so that

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00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 1: I would have rolled out a red carpet for her

596
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 1: to walk on if I could. He was my entire

597
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 1: world back then. Man, sucks. Doesn't sound healthy though, too.

598
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 1: Not even once have I ever heard about any boys

599
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 1: in high school liking me from Anna. Apparently, Anna would

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00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 1: always come back to them with her apologetic face, telling

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00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 1: him that I had rejected them, repeated the insults I

602
00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 1: had supposedly said about them.

603
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 2: Oh she's making that stuff up now, this is crazy,

604
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 2: this is wild, wow, wild.

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00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:08,720
Speaker 1: And no one ever said anything to Opie. Yeah, no

606
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 1: one was like, hey, Opie, why did you say that

607
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 1: about me? That's kind of crazy. No wonder. Some people

608
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 1: back in high school called me arrogant and disliked me

609
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 1: for some reason. Oh my gosh. I just thought it

610
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 1: was because I was a strict class president and student

611
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 1: committee member. Unlike Anna, who was friendly and charming, I

612
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:28,840
Speaker 1: was strict, sharp tongued, and rarely smiled. I didn't know

613
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 1: anyone to smile. True, you don't true, and you don't

614
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 1: like that apology. He's like, I was a strict class president,

615
00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:39,440
Speaker 1: no nonsense. Ethan explained that he was mean to me

616
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 1: back then because Anna told him I had said he

617
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:46,240
Speaker 1: was an orphan abandoned by his parents. Opie was like,

618
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 1: yeah he was. He was really mean, So like, I

619
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 1: didn't like him after that. I thought someone said I

620
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 1: was an orphan abandoned by my parents. Yeah. This was

621
00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 1: a particularly sensitive topic for him, as he had been

622
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 1: used by his grandparents since childhood. He later discovered the

623
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 1: truth when Anna inadvertently admitted it during an argument Amateur Amateur.

624
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 1: That moment led him to file for divorce. Wow. Ethan

625
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 1: shared that he genuinely did love Anna, but her constant

626
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 1: insecurity and habit of bringing up my name and every

627
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 1: argument strained the relationship. She either accused Ethan of still

628
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 1: thinking about me or compared him to me. Anna did

629
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 1: find out about Ethan's wasted call That very same night.

630
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 1: They had an argument and Ethan came close to calling

631
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:34,959
Speaker 1: off the wedding Wow, but Anna guilt tripped him into sting.

632
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 1: Neither Ethan nor Anna lied or twisted the story. Anna

633
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 1: simply told our entire friend group to stop talking to me.

634
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 1: Oh my god, and they just did. Yeah that's crazy.

635
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 1: Is Anna a cult leader?

636
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 3: What?

637
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. If one of my friends said you have

638
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 1: to stop talking to another one of my friends, yeah,

639
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 1: I'd be like why. I'd be like, wow, up, what

640
00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 1: is the reason? Yeah? Like, do you have any reason? They?

641
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 1: I knew I hadn't done anything wrong, but somehow it

642
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 1: was still my fault that Ethan had unresolved feelings toward me.

643
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 1: I was and still am an introvert, and most of

644
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 1: my friends back then were hers. It wasn't surprising that

645
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 1: they followed her lead when she turned against me. They

646
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 1: were always her friends, not mine. Anna and my ex

647
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 1: classmates then painted me as a villain to the other

648
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 1: friends from high school. Ethan didn't do anything to help

649
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 1: because he was manipulated to hate me his words, not mine. Wow.

650
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 1: I mean again, if I found out, yeah, that someone

651
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 1: told me that I was an orphan abandon my parents,

652
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 1: I wouldn't go to bat for the person who said.

653
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 1: Who I thought said that? Right?

654
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 3: Like?

655
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 1: I think that's understand That's why I changed my number

656
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 1: and deleted all my social media accounts, well, no one

657
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 1: directly bombarded me with mean messages. I constantly saw a

658
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 1: post that seemed to be aimed at me, even though

659
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 1: my name was never mentioned. Ethan only revealed everything to

660
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 1: the other friends after his divorce with Anna was finalized.

661
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 1: Anna and my ex classmates are the ones being shunned

662
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:06,720
Speaker 1: by the others since two years ago. Ethan said he

663
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 1: owed me an apology, though he knew it wouldn't be

664
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 1: enough after everything that happened. While he never smeared my name,

665
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 1: he stood on the sidelines and did nothing simply because

666
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 1: I rejected him and called him an abandoned orphan during

667
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 1: high school crazy again. The abandoned orphan part was that

668
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 1: would like if that hadn't been said, that would have

669
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 1: been like grounds, Yeah, but I also at least I

670
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 1: think it's yeah. But I do think it's interesting though

671
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 1: that he focused on the rejection part. Yeah, that part

672
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 1: is less that part, I'm like, wow.

673
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 2: Okay, But Ethan focused on that though when he called her,

674
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 2: I was.

675
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 1: Like, why did you reject me? He never brought up

676
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 1: why did you call me? In ador? Why did you

677
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 1: like that? He asked me if I was going to

678
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 1: the upcoming reunion party. Turns out the reunion party this

679
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:54,480
Speaker 1: time was for the nineteen ninety five high school batch.

680
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 1: My ex classmates probably wanted their former class president to

681
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 1: attend for appearances. This is really serious. I do think

682
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 1: maybe possibly you are putting a little bit too much

683
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:11,279
Speaker 1: weight on the class president thing, because he's like, well,

684
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 1: you probably want me to attend for appearance. So even

685
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 1: think I remember who my class president was, I would

686
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:22,319
Speaker 1: not care there. I literally wouldn't care if they were there.

687
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 1: I probably won't. I don't know if i'll go. I

688
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 1: didn't go to my I don't think anyone showed up

689
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 1: to our five year reunion. I told him I won't go.

690
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 1: He said I can sit with him and his ex

691
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:38,839
Speaker 1: classmates if I wanted to. Why would I, brother, I

692
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:40,880
Speaker 1: told him I wouldn't be attending because I have no

693
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:43,399
Speaker 1: friends from high school. You mentioned that the others would

694
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 1: be sad if they heard I said that, Well, screw them,

695
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 1: Opie says, but also me. I received a lot more

696
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 1: messages from old friends, but I didn't respond to any

697
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:56,719
Speaker 1: of them. I have no attachment towards them. I told

698
00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:59,279
Speaker 1: Anna that Ethan already told me everything goalt me on

699
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 1: messager again, sobbing, you admitted she might have been a

700
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 1: terrible friend. What do you mean might have, but that

701
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:08,239
Speaker 1: she did care about me all those years. I was

702
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 1: always on her mind. I was too attached to her

703
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 1: back then because she was my first real friend and

704
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:15,799
Speaker 1: I had no friends in middle school. I was too

705
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 1: shy and quiet, so I couldn't make friends. Anna taught

706
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 1: me how to make friends and overcome my social anxiety

707
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 1: and introduced a lot of people to me. And by

708
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:27,239
Speaker 1: the way, you can introduce us to your friends and

709
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 1: family and tell them that we go live every weekday

710
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:33,319
Speaker 1: a three PMPSD on YouTube, on Facebook, on TikTok. Just

711
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:36,359
Speaker 1: tap her pfile does tap And there is a little

712
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:38,719
Speaker 1: bit more to this story. But any final.

713
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:42,719
Speaker 2: Thoughts, I just I think it's just this all just

714
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:45,319
Speaker 2: feels blown out of proportion at this point, like the

715
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:49,279
Speaker 2: beginning in the early story, the first round, you know,

716
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:51,840
Speaker 2: it was like, Okay, yeah, we got this all covered,

717
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:54,880
Speaker 2: and now I don't know, Now this just feels like

718
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:57,359
Speaker 2: it's just the friend's problem, Like, yeah, it doesn't feel

719
00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 2: like Opia has any problem, and everyone else.

720
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:03,279
Speaker 1: Just like her, please, Yeah, they're so obsessed with getting Ope.

721
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 1: The student class President's favor back and he's like, I

722
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 1: literally don't care about it.

723
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 2: Yes, it's like you will not be pardoned actually shat photo.

724
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, but there is a little bit left to the story.

725
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:17,759
Speaker 1: I learned to cook for her and took care of

726
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:20,760
Speaker 1: her when she was sick. I even protected her from creeps.

727
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 1: Everything I did was for her. Now that I think

728
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,800
Speaker 1: about it, it was kind of unhealthy. Maybe she wanted

729
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 1: me to be that version of myself again only for

730
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 1: her convenience. You begged me to try again, that she

731
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:34,279
Speaker 1: would be a better person for me, but I just

732
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 1: ended the call and blocked her. After a few minutes

733
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:40,759
Speaker 1: of contemplating, I decided to delete my Facebook account again.

734
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 1: I have a feeling that if I didn't, they will

735
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 1: keep on bothering me. I'll settle with the fake account.

736
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 1: The main reason why I made Facebook account is to

737
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 1: play harvestown anyway, nice, Sorry for the long post. This

738
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 1: will be my one and only update. I want to

739
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 1: thank the four people who personally messaged me on Reddit.

740
00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:00,319
Speaker 1: Your messages meant a lot, as not many people have

741
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:02,919
Speaker 1: done so much for me in my life. I hope

742
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:08,319
Speaker 1: my update answered your questions. Farewell, and that is the end.

743
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:11,240
Speaker 1: Of that story. My mother in law ruined my son's

744
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 1: birthday party. We want to cut them off.

745
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:17,240
Speaker 3: Cut them off. No more birthday candles, no more birthday wishes.

746
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:20,799
Speaker 1: Uh sorry, it's long, but this is just crazy. Now

747
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:23,400
Speaker 1: we're debating going no contact with mother in law and

748
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 1: dealing with the possible consequences of losing touch with my

749
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:30,240
Speaker 1: husband's huge family over it because of the narrative she's pushing.

750
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:34,360
Speaker 1: Background context. My husband, Bob thirty mail, comes from a

751
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:38,400
Speaker 1: big family. He's the sixth of nine siblings and his father,

752
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 1: father in law, is the first of nine. Yeah, very

753
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:46,279
Speaker 1: big family. His parents are technically separated, although might be

754
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 1: trying to work things out. We don't really know and

755
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:51,319
Speaker 1: don't really care to know either. By the way, this

756
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 1: comes from Admirable Incident nine point forty on the Okay

757
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 1: Storytime supparateate so due to his mother and mother in

758
00:37:57,160 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 1: law abandoning them and only taking the baby the youngest

759
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:03,320
Speaker 1: and leaving with another man. My husband isn't really close

760
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 1: with his mother and doesn't really care to get to

761
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 1: know her. My husband was super close to one of

762
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 1: his grandfathers, but unfortunately he passed away last year and

763
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 1: we've been trying to keep things open with the rest

764
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 1: of the family, especially because of our son Jay.

765
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 3: Jeremy Jack or Jeremy to Jeremy, Jeremy.

766
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:25,919
Speaker 1: Is Jeremy, who will be turning a year here shortly. I,

767
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 1: thirty one female, on the other hand, come from a

768
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 1: small family that was already broken up by the time

769
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:33,799
Speaker 1: I came along, and it only became worse later with

770
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:36,799
Speaker 1: my own mother disowning her mother. And now none of

771
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 1: those of us who are left speak anymore beyond funerals.

772
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 3: Wow, sounds like we up just a family with no

773
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 3: moms in it.

774
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:46,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's so sad. Nikes. I have two sons, AJ

775
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:51,800
Speaker 1: twelve and MJ eleven from a previous relationship. Bob sees

776
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:54,320
Speaker 1: them as his own and plans to adopt them officially.

777
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:57,879
Speaker 1: My father in law already claimed them during Jeremy's first

778
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:01,719
Speaker 1: laugh ceremony earlier this year and publicly adopted them as

779
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 1: his grandsons. What's a first laugh ceremony?

780
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 3: I have no idea first laugh.

781
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 1: It's just like the first time he lived there. Like,

782
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:11,360
Speaker 1: oh my god, he laughed.

783
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:13,760
Speaker 3: He's fine. Imprinted like what?

784
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:17,320
Speaker 1: Speaking of which, earlier this year, during a certain ceremony

785
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:19,719
Speaker 1: that is important in my husband's culture. My mother in

786
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:22,360
Speaker 1: law basically told me she didn't believe our marriage but

787
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 1: last because we only knew each other for two years. Now,

788
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 1: it is true my husband and I have only been

789
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:31,399
Speaker 1: officially together for two years, but I've known each other

790
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 1: for nine and have been those friends everyone thinks should

791
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:37,920
Speaker 1: get together but never had the chance to, except we

792
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 1: did and said so in our vows. My father in

793
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:45,320
Speaker 1: law's response was, why hadn't he my husband introduced us sooner,

794
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 1: and well, you just read what my mother in law thinks.

795
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 1: She also told AJ and MJ not to call Bob dad,

796
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:55,319
Speaker 1: which is crossing a line we had already agreed upon.

797
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:58,360
Speaker 1: He's completely fine with them calling him dad, and he

798
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 1: sees them as his sons. We only learned later after

799
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 1: the ceremony. Mother in law also tried to claim I

800
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:07,440
Speaker 1: was lazy and not a good in law, only for

801
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 1: me to call her out. One she's not the first

802
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:12,960
Speaker 1: toxic mother in law I've dealt with, and two she's

803
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:15,799
Speaker 1: just like my grandmother to a tea who ruined our

804
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 1: once close knit family who now no longer talk to

805
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 1: each other. So yeah, and also claim Bob is too

806
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 1: childish and doesn't treat AJ and MJ as sons but siblings.

807
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:29,840
Speaker 1: Bob and I talked about it, came up with a

808
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 1: game plan on dealing with her in the future. This

809
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 1: is when my husband admitted to not caring if we

810
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 1: ever have a relationship with her because she one abandoned

811
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 1: him and two what he has gotten to know of her,

812
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 1: he doesn't care to know anymore. Made sure we were

813
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:46,719
Speaker 1: secure in us and our boys understood that they can

814
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 1: call Bob dad if they want to, and to ignore

815
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 1: what she said. It seems like Bob and OPR on

816
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 1: the same way.

817
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:58,719
Speaker 3: We're on the same way wavelength. I just maybe before

818
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 3: things get worse, just execute that game plan prior, just

819
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:02,440
Speaker 3: like we're.

820
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 1: Going to say, execute the mother. O. No, just get

821
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 1: rid of her.

822
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 3: No, just just makes you maybe use that word. But yeah,

823
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:11,800
Speaker 3: just make sure you're on the same page already. Easy

824
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:16,759
Speaker 3: and before things get you know, aggravated. Yeah, just do

825
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:17,239
Speaker 3: it now.

826
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 1: Now on to the issue. A couple of weeks ago,

827
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:22,879
Speaker 1: we had called my father in law to see if

828
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:25,239
Speaker 1: it was okay to hold Jeremy's birthday party at his

829
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 1: house because he's closer to the midpoint and majority of

830
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 1: family where we're out of the way. Two town's over.

831
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 1: My mother in law was there and she answered the phone.

832
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:38,400
Speaker 1: Per usual, she took control of the conversation. Annoying, but

833
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:40,879
Speaker 1: at the time we were in agreement with their suggestions.

834
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:43,840
Speaker 1: Jeremy's a Turkey baby.

835
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 3: What what are these terms?

836
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:48,239
Speaker 1: I oh? And although this year his birthday doesn't land

837
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:50,839
Speaker 1: on Thanksgiving, we agreed having it on the day of

838
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:53,280
Speaker 1: when everyone will be there was a good plan along

839
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 1: with doing Potlock style. Okay, so, okay, presumably he was

840
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 1: born on Thanksgiving.

841
00:41:57,080 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 3: Okay that I was going to put two and two together,

842
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 3: but I was like, I don't want to jump to

843
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:01,319
Speaker 3: conclusions here.

844
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:04,440
Speaker 1: My husband added, we should do it for both Jeremy

845
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 1: and I. I'm a Turkey baby too, and my birthday

846
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 1: is literally the day before Thanksgiving this year. My dad's

847
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 1: a Turkey baby. I guess.

848
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 3: I don't know any Turkey babies other than I guess.

849
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:15,719
Speaker 1: Well, actually, I don't know if his If he was

850
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:18,279
Speaker 1: born on Thanksgiving, but sometimes his birthday falls on.

851
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:20,839
Speaker 3: Thanksgiving, I don't know how I feel about that. That kind

852
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:21,760
Speaker 3: of sucks.

853
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 1: It was actually really confusing for me as a child,

854
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 1: because I thought that his birthday was on Thanksgiving.

855
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:28,439
Speaker 3: So everyone was celebrating Thanksgiving for your dad.

856
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:30,759
Speaker 1: Well no, no, no, I just like would get confused what

857
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:32,440
Speaker 1: day is actual birthday was because I was like, I

858
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 1: thought it was Thanksgiving. So it took me a while

859
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 1: to figure out what day's birthday was actually on.

860
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 3: What's his actual birthday?

861
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 1: Is it the twenty fourth of November?

862
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:40,759
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, so he just like, might as well just

863
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:42,759
Speaker 3: throw it two birds one stone kind of thing.

864
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:45,360
Speaker 1: No, No, I was just separate thought. I was just like,

865
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:48,840
Speaker 1: oh it was like Thanksgiving. Yeah, I just took it

866
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 1: turkey for a while. It is the point.

867
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 3: Okay, shout out to those Turkey babies out there.

868
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 1: But yeah, we got off the phone with both of

869
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:57,279
Speaker 1: them with the green light and began planning. We ordered

870
00:42:57,320 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 1: the cake and planned where to go for decorations and

871
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:03,719
Speaker 1: some guy. Now this weekend, we physically drove down and

872
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 1: visited to make sure we were all still on the

873
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 1: same page before posting to Facebook what the plan was.

874
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 1: Seemed like it only thing is mother in law backtracked

875
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:16,799
Speaker 1: on our previous statement about the potluck style, stating we

876
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:19,920
Speaker 1: should have enough food and was concerned about having too much.

877
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 1: We shrugged it off and went home, posting the invitation

878
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:26,319
Speaker 1: the next day and tagging the family members I had

879
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 1: on my Facebook, Like we talked about and agreed upon,

880
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 1: Monday comes, husband leaves to work at the moment, he

881
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:35,399
Speaker 1: works out of town and is gone all week until

882
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 1: the weekend, and crap hits the van.

883
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 3: Can't wait.

884
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:43,319
Speaker 1: Mother in law messages me on Facebook freaking out about

885
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 1: the public post literally only family and friends can see it,

886
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 1: and worried we're not inviting the whole tribe. Bob also

887
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 1: had a sister texting with the fact that their mom

888
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 1: was freaking out about their dad not working and all that. Now.

889
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:58,719
Speaker 1: Due to our agreement and game plan for dealing with

890
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 1: mother in law after the previous issue mentioned above, I

891
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:05,479
Speaker 1: didn't even reply until Bob was there via video call

892
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 1: because we agreed to deal with it together. Okay, that

893
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:12,440
Speaker 1: makes sense. For the next several hours, we proceeded in

894
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 1: a back and forth with her on the plan, what

895
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:17,840
Speaker 1: we discussed, even pointing out what she said and suggested,

896
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:22,239
Speaker 1: et cetera. Basically, our definition of everyone was different mother

897
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 1: in law, anyone who either so for mother in law,

898
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:27,719
Speaker 1: anyone who either came in or out of her so

899
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:29,759
Speaker 1: just like they're immediate nine.

900
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:33,359
Speaker 3: I guess, Okay, still very big family. Yeah, this can

901
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:34,960
Speaker 3: get very convoluted and very like.

902
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:38,800
Speaker 1: Ah yeah, versus Bob's definition of the entire family, namely

903
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:39,719
Speaker 1: those he's close to.

904
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 3: Ah.

905
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 1: When I had a friend of mine read the conversation

906
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:45,319
Speaker 1: from a third perspective, she asked why mother in law

907
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:49,319
Speaker 1: was being purposely obtuse and clearly trying to get her way.

908
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 1: The final straw was when mother in law asked what

909
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:55,720
Speaker 1: we meant by family baby sister's family or Bob's family.

910
00:44:57,080 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 1: My husband snapped and what enough? So d up changing

911
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 1: the invitation to our place an uninvited mother in law.

912
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:07,840
Speaker 1: We both wanted to crack open a cold one after this. Well,

913
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:11,440
Speaker 1: that started another round of drama of Bob's oldest sister

914
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:14,360
Speaker 1: calling him crying, saying it should be about the kids,

915
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:17,359
Speaker 1: and she mother in law abandoned them.

916
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:19,240
Speaker 3: This may be one of those things where the family's

917
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 3: too freaking big that not everyone is going to be

918
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:24,800
Speaker 3: and no one's to be happy, no one's need to

919
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:26,719
Speaker 3: be happy. Yeah, this is one of those things where

920
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:29,319
Speaker 3: it's like we can't please everyone. No. It also it.

921
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 1: Seems like, oh, pee and Bob, we're trying to invite

922
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:33,839
Speaker 1: more people, like we're trying to get the whole gang together.

923
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:36,759
Speaker 3: At least in a general context, Like Bob seems like

924
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:39,319
Speaker 3: he wanted the you know, the ones that he's close to,

925
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:40,920
Speaker 3: and you're like say, oh, yeah, that's family.

926
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 1: Yeah.

927
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:46,360
Speaker 3: Those two different misunderstandings of the term family, which we agree.

928
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 1: But how can we go with the original plan after this?

929
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:52,239
Speaker 1: And the baby sister messaged me on Facebook asking me

930
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:55,359
Speaker 1: to remove the uninvited part because it makes everyone look bad?

931
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:58,839
Speaker 1: We did they uninvite the mother in law on Facebook?

932
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 3: It sounds like the uninvited, but I don't did did they?

933
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:05,839
Speaker 1: So we ended up the invitation to our place an

934
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 1: uninvited mother in law?

935
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:10,320
Speaker 3: It was It wasn't explicit that they did it on Facebook,

936
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 3: but I probably did.

937
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 1: They did it, it says, asking me to remove the

938
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 1: uninvited party because it makes everyone look bad, which, no, crap.

939
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:19,600
Speaker 1: Your mother just turned a birthday party into a power play.

940
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:21,920
Speaker 1: It's effing that. So it seems like they. I don't know.

941
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:23,760
Speaker 1: I don't know if this needed to be done all

942
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 1: on Facebook. I think we could have.

943
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 3: I feel like this that is the case. This got

944
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 3: messed up when OP put it on Facebook.

945
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:36,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what, maybe like not necessarily your faults.

946
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 1: It seems like the mother in law was making a

947
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 1: lot of you know, making a mess. However, I think

948
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 1: just going forward, STU, partiful, stup, partifle, There we go.

949
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 1: It's easy.

950
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:47,880
Speaker 3: You and your party FLEs.

951
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:51,360
Speaker 1: At the moment. The party is temporarily postponed until we

952
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:54,319
Speaker 1: figure out this drama. Yes, my husband and I have

953
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:57,520
Speaker 1: re gone over the entire conversation trying to figure out

954
00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 1: what the actual f happened and how we ended up

955
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:02,719
Speaker 1: as the bad guys for simply wanting to hold a

956
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 1: party for a son's first birthday where everyone could come

957
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:08,840
Speaker 1: see him if they wanted. We're going back and forth

958
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 1: on either trying to make amends and compromising. I know

959
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:13,719
Speaker 1: though that people like my mother in law you have

960
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:15,920
Speaker 1: to hold your ground or it will only get worse,

961
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 1: or just doing her own thing at our house with

962
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:21,920
Speaker 1: an open invitation to friends and family like originally planned thoughts.

963
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:24,920
Speaker 1: I will also update as best I can. Oh, and

964
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:27,280
Speaker 1: I'm also debating about telling mother in law and pointing

965
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 1: out what she is doing is exactly what my grandmother

966
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 1: did to my family and does she really want that

967
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:36,719
Speaker 1: to happen? To hers and possibly blocking her and there

968
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:41,399
Speaker 1: is an update. I don't I don't know if it's

969
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 1: your place to go to your mother in law and

970
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:47,839
Speaker 1: say all that. I think maybe her son could do that.

971
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:49,480
Speaker 1: I don't know.

972
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:53,239
Speaker 3: I feel like this is just a standard miscommunication and

973
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:56,719
Speaker 3: then it just blew up and now everyone's gonna be

974
00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:58,439
Speaker 3: talking smack about each other.

975
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:01,399
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think just do your her open invite thing

976
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 1: and whoever comes comes.

977
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 3: Yeah. Honestly, like if you just want to celebrate your

978
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:08,920
Speaker 3: son's birthday, which that was the original plan, Yeah, a

979
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:11,200
Speaker 3: little bit of Thanksgiving in there. Great.

980
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:14,160
Speaker 1: I think if your husband wants to go talk to

981
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 1: his mom and be like, hey, your behavior is you know,

982
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 1: whack and you're messing up the family, that's his place.

983
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 1: But I don't think that you can necessarily do that. Yeah. No,

984
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 1: it's already such a messy situation.

985
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 3: He really is.

986
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 1: She already left the kids when they were younger.

987
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 3: I would say a party full, but like like you said, yeah,

988
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 3: but I think just invite the specific like I think

989
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:41,600
Speaker 3: Bob said, the family members that you're closest to. Yeah,

990
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:44,400
Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know what op situation is

991
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:48,479
Speaker 3: or you know, everyone situation of who's connected to who

992
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:50,960
Speaker 3: and who likes who. Obviously, you guys don't like mother

993
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:52,719
Speaker 3: in law, so don't invite mother in law.

994
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:56,240
Speaker 1: I just don't in. But there is an update. Okay, guys,

995
00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:59,400
Speaker 1: I was not expecting to be doing an update already. However,

996
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:02,480
Speaker 1: here I am. So one of you guys shared a

997
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:05,040
Speaker 1: don't rock the boat which we loved and ended up

998
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:09,480
Speaker 1: posting to Facebook saying guess bern saying guess we're the

999
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:14,759
Speaker 1: nun boat steadiers what because we found it funny and

1000
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:17,880
Speaker 1: ironic to the situation, not as a bash or anything,

1001
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:20,719
Speaker 1: just ironic. We didn't even tag anyone, so you know

1002
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 1: she had to have been spying on my private Facebook. Well,

1003
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:26,440
Speaker 1: my mother in law commented under it and tried to

1004
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:30,320
Speaker 1: do a call me specifically out She stated my true

1005
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:33,600
Speaker 1: colors were showing. She tried to claim we were doing

1006
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:36,239
Speaker 1: a huge celebration on her dime, going to make her

1007
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 1: do all the cooking cleaning. While I yes, she didn't

1008
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:41,720
Speaker 1: go after the hobby. She went for me hid away

1009
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 1: in the room. I don't know where she even got

1010
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 1: this idea, but at least we know what scenario and

1011
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:49,880
Speaker 1: narrative she's trying to pull, which makes it easier to

1012
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 1: call her out. People need to stop posting on Facebook.

1013
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:56,719
Speaker 3: Keep your drama to yourself. Yeah, we post everything on

1014
00:49:56,760 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 3: Facebook like a bad it's an all good look, not

1015
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:01,080
Speaker 3: even look.

1016
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:05,960
Speaker 1: So I replied to stop did you reply on Facebook?

1017
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 1: And was using her own wording against her. I pointed

1018
00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:10,600
Speaker 1: out she was doing a lot of assuming about what

1019
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:13,640
Speaker 1: we were doing and planning. What we meant by wanting

1020
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:15,480
Speaker 1: the family to be able to come see the baby,

1021
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:17,880
Speaker 1: we aren't down there too often, and that's why we

1022
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:20,480
Speaker 1: had done an open invitation to those family members were

1023
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:23,080
Speaker 1: close to but don't see all that often. And what

1024
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 1: the whole situation was going to be that we were

1025
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:28,719
Speaker 1: planning and cooking, bringing our own dishes. We literally were

1026
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:31,959
Speaker 1: planning bringing full dishes due to concerns of not buying

1027
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:35,480
Speaker 1: leather in law's concerns of having too much food and

1028
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 1: buying a large batch of throwaway plates, bowls, and utensils

1029
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:41,560
Speaker 1: along with big trash bags so they didn't have to

1030
00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:44,439
Speaker 1: worry about dishes helping with the cleanup. And the only

1031
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:47,920
Speaker 1: time I'd be hiding would be when I was feeding Jeremy.

1032
00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:50,920
Speaker 1: He's breastfed, by the way, and not only is she

1033
00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:53,439
Speaker 1: not the first toxic person I've had to deal with,

1034
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:57,520
Speaker 1: but that she's just like my grandmother who played these

1035
00:50:57,560 --> 00:51:00,919
Speaker 1: same games and now are once tight knit family don't

1036
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:03,040
Speaker 1: even talk to each other, and does she want the

1037
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:05,880
Speaker 1: same for hers then keep playing these games? And added

1038
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:09,359
Speaker 1: the I think there's maybe some swear at the end.

1039
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 1: I will admit a b move, but I am so

1040
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:15,240
Speaker 1: sick and tired of this girl.

1041
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 3: Aren't you doing that? Though you're making it, You're adding

1042
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:22,200
Speaker 3: so much fuel to this fire that you not necessarily

1043
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:25,200
Speaker 3: originally started, but that you are like having.

1044
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:26,200
Speaker 1: This is ridiculous.

1045
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:30,200
Speaker 3: Okay, Opie, Opie, you're the one who's posting it on

1046
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:31,840
Speaker 3: Facebook and making everyone see it.

1047
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:34,319
Speaker 1: And I had to apologize to my husband for making

1048
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:36,480
Speaker 1: a move without him, but he was fine and just

1049
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 1: asked for the screenshots of the conversation. Ironically, even before this,

1050
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:43,200
Speaker 1: we had been talking about going no contact with mother

1051
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:45,560
Speaker 1: in law. My husband said, it's not the first time

1052
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:48,000
Speaker 1: only usually it's just been in the shadows, per se,

1053
00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 1: and this is the first out in public for everyone

1054
00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:51,080
Speaker 1: to see.

1055
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:54,200
Speaker 3: What why is it?

1056
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:54,560
Speaker 1: Why?

1057
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:55,920
Speaker 3: Why why do you have to do that?

1058
00:51:57,120 --> 00:51:59,560
Speaker 1: This weekend, when he gets home, we plan on talking

1059
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:01,920
Speaker 1: about it together and making sure we are one hundred

1060
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:04,200
Speaker 1: percent on the same page before physically going to my

1061
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:07,439
Speaker 1: father in laws and breaking the news. I told Bob

1062
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:08,920
Speaker 1: that we just need to make it clear to not

1063
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:12,040
Speaker 1: only father in law but the whole family that it's

1064
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:14,480
Speaker 1: not because of the party. This was just the last straw.

1065
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:18,359
Speaker 1: This is what I thought our next update would be. Anyways,

1066
00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:23,360
Speaker 1: So yeah, Bo, Bob wants to hear them out, but

1067
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:26,399
Speaker 1: we agree to stand firm in our decision. I also

1068
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:29,000
Speaker 1: plan to record the conversation because I know people like

1069
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:32,160
Speaker 1: mother in law love to twist your words against you. Also,

1070
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:34,960
Speaker 1: we are debating about posting the screenshots of the conversation.

1071
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:38,680
Speaker 3: No, stop with that posting stuff that.

1072
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:40,960
Speaker 1: Led to all this bs in the first place, especially

1073
00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:43,319
Speaker 1: since we don't plan to speak to mother in law

1074
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:44,400
Speaker 1: ever again after this.

1075
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:46,080
Speaker 3: Don't freaking don't do it.

1076
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:48,360
Speaker 1: No one freaking cares. I'm sorry.

1077
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:48,520
Speaker 3: No.

1078
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:53,240
Speaker 1: Unless you're posting this on Reddit anonymously, people would probably

1079
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:56,040
Speaker 1: like this, which you are. You could post them here.

1080
00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:58,520
Speaker 1: Post your screenshots here. Don't post them on Facebook for

1081
00:52:58,560 --> 00:52:59,440
Speaker 1: your friends and family.

1082
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:04,480
Speaker 3: This is going to divide the family. You're you're doing

1083
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:06,759
Speaker 3: like you're doing what you were like, you don't want

1084
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:07,680
Speaker 3: to be that person.

1085
00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:10,960
Speaker 1: You're doing this. My friend thinks it's funny that mother

1086
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:13,440
Speaker 1: in law is claiming my true colors are showing when

1087
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:16,920
Speaker 1: she's literally calling herself out, which Bob and I agree.

1088
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:18,799
Speaker 1: So right now we're just planning on how to go

1089
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:21,280
Speaker 1: about this and hoping my husband doesn't lose his family

1090
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:24,439
Speaker 1: because of it. But as he said himself, his father

1091
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:26,839
Speaker 1: knows how toxic she is and was the last one

1092
00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:29,880
Speaker 1: to call her out, so she'll be interesting in the least.

1093
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:32,480
Speaker 1: We just still can't wrap our heads around how this

1094
00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:35,040
Speaker 1: all came from just wanting a simple birthday party for

1095
00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:38,040
Speaker 1: a son's first birthday where the family could join if

1096
00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:44,279
Speaker 1: they wanted to. And there is another update, but uh yeah.

1097
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:45,399
Speaker 3: My take is everyone sucks.

1098
00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:48,239
Speaker 1: Everyone sucks here. You and the mother in law are

1099
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:53,120
Speaker 1: adding fuel to this fire, especially knowing that her. Bob

1100
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 1: and Op had a conversation before all this went down

1101
00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:58,799
Speaker 1: and said this is how we're going to handle mother

1102
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:01,560
Speaker 1: in law. We're going to you're going to wait, you know,

1103
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:04,040
Speaker 1: we're gonna have a conversation before we make any moves

1104
00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:07,480
Speaker 1: with her, and then we'll go forward together. And instead

1105
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:10,319
Speaker 1: she literally went against that and posted on Facebook for

1106
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:13,560
Speaker 1: everyone to see her little tiff with the mother in law.

1107
00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:16,319
Speaker 3: I love though no one rocked the boat thing or

1108
00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:17,839
Speaker 3: like we rocked the boat thing by.

1109
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:19,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh no peace like oh like it wasn't meant

1110
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:21,600
Speaker 1: to be a call it. It absolutely was.

1111
00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:24,840
Speaker 3: You are cognizant of what you're doing, and you're just like,

1112
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:27,320
Speaker 3: it's like a such a petty battle.

1113
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:31,880
Speaker 1: It's so petty for no reason. Like we've already established

1114
00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:33,520
Speaker 1: that you guys don't like the mother in law and

1115
00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:35,239
Speaker 1: that you'd want to go no contact, So just go

1116
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:35,880
Speaker 1: no contact.

1117
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:38,279
Speaker 3: There's no need to put in the energy and just

1118
00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:39,759
Speaker 3: make everyone get involved with this.

1119
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:42,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, this could have been handled so much better. Yeah,

1120
00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:45,239
Speaker 1: but there is another update. So yesterday my husband and

1121
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:48,440
Speaker 1: I sat down and spoke about the situation and how

1122
00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:51,239
Speaker 1: we both felt. He understands why I wish to go

1123
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:53,960
Speaker 1: no contact completely with mother in law, but we both

1124
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:57,080
Speaker 1: also struggle with possibly getting removed from any future family

1125
00:54:57,120 --> 00:54:58,640
Speaker 1: events field.

1126
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:01,759
Speaker 3: I don't like that comment, like, you know exactly what

1127
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:03,640
Speaker 3: he feels.

1128
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:06,600
Speaker 1: The whole family needs a break from each other. After

1129
00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:09,440
Speaker 1: the discussion and knowing where we both stood in the situation,

1130
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:12,000
Speaker 1: we left her kids with my mom and went to

1131
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 1: go speak with my father in law about the situation.

1132
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:16,399
Speaker 1: Note mother in law was not there and she had

1133
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:20,440
Speaker 1: returned to her home eight hours away until Tuesday. Father

1134
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:23,359
Speaker 1: in law listened and after some silence, went off about

1135
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:27,680
Speaker 1: how the whole thing was childish and disrespectful on both sides.

1136
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:35,400
Speaker 3: Yes, wow, yes, so easy to understand. Yes, and I'm

1137
00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:37,960
Speaker 3: just maybe this might be like a premonition year but

1138
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:40,359
Speaker 3: I think Opec could get very upset about that.

1139
00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:42,800
Speaker 1: I think is gonna be like, what are you talking about?

1140
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:46,080
Speaker 3: It's only yours. It's literally the pointing finger, like you're

1141
00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:47,920
Speaker 3: both at fault here, just like us.

1142
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:50,440
Speaker 1: He's been told multiple different narratives and doesn't know what

1143
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:53,640
Speaker 1: to believe and frankly doesn't care and thinks it's all stupid. Yes,

1144
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:55,680
Speaker 1: he had yelled at mother in law as well and

1145
00:55:55,719 --> 00:55:59,080
Speaker 1: told her off and said apologies we needed on both sides. Yes,

1146
00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:03,279
Speaker 1: we agreed, okay, and took fault in our actions with

1147
00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:04,239
Speaker 1: the situation as well.

1148
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:06,160
Speaker 3: Okay, we're wrong, all right.

1149
00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:10,279
Speaker 1: At least you realize that he just messed up. We

1150
00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:12,359
Speaker 1: told them about how we have decided to switch our

1151
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:15,040
Speaker 1: son's birthday party back to his actual day of birth

1152
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:17,839
Speaker 1: and we'll hold a get together at our house, and

1153
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:20,000
Speaker 1: we aren't sure if we'll come to Thanksgiving, just so

1154
00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:23,200
Speaker 1: everyone has a chance to cool down. Later, we talked

1155
00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:25,399
Speaker 1: some more with my mom because we still were on

1156
00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:27,920
Speaker 1: a separate fence with mother in law. I wanted to

1157
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:30,960
Speaker 1: go no contact and Bob going little contact, and she

1158
00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:34,440
Speaker 1: helped us decide to go limited contact. We also agreed

1159
00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:35,920
Speaker 1: for me to go the route as one of my

1160
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:38,399
Speaker 1: sister in law's where it comes to mother in law.

1161
00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:41,480
Speaker 1: One of my brother in law's wife does not even

1162
00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:44,080
Speaker 1: acknowledge my mother in law, much less say anything to her.

1163
00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:47,759
Speaker 1: And Bob supports me one hundred percent on doing the same.

1164
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:50,880
Speaker 1: But we support you one hundred percent on joining us

1165
00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:55,120
Speaker 1: live every weekday at three PMPSD on YouTube, on Facebook,

1166
00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:58,399
Speaker 1: on TikTok. Just top our profile, step it and there

1167
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:01,359
Speaker 1: is a little bit left to this, but yeah, we

1168
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:05,640
Speaker 1: need you need to stop post it on Facebook. Honestly,

1169
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:09,480
Speaker 1: it's kind of really silly to me that OPI is

1170
00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:11,719
Speaker 1: going like they're going through this whole thing when the

1171
00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:13,280
Speaker 1: mother in law lives eight hours away.

1172
00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:14,440
Speaker 3: This is so silly.

1173
00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:17,200
Speaker 1: I can't imagine that she's going to that many family

1174
00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:18,960
Speaker 1: events when she's eight hours away.

1175
00:57:19,720 --> 00:57:21,479
Speaker 3: Very that's why they were doing it in the first place,

1176
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:24,880
Speaker 3: because their place was a middle point. Yeah, this is

1177
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:27,600
Speaker 3: so silly in so many I love the father in

1178
00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:30,960
Speaker 3: law just be like, this is dumb. He's like, Soto,

1179
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:33,040
Speaker 3: apologize this. This makes no sense.

1180
00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:34,440
Speaker 1: You guys are acting like children.

1181
00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:36,080
Speaker 3: This was supposed to be a fun thing and now

1182
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:38,960
Speaker 3: guess what. Thanksgiving is kind of like awkward this year.

1183
00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:40,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, because of you guys.

1184
00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:42,840
Speaker 3: Literally just do too. Yeah, and a little bit of

1185
00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:44,560
Speaker 3: support of it, I guess, Bob.

1186
00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:47,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's like, yeah, I know your mother in law

1187
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:49,680
Speaker 1: it acts like this, but why are you guys acting

1188
00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:50,080
Speaker 1: like this?

1189
00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:52,240
Speaker 3: Puts way too much energy into this when you should

1190
00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:54,520
Speaker 3: have been focusing that energy to a positive thing like

1191
00:57:54,680 --> 00:57:55,600
Speaker 3: the birthday party.

1192
00:57:56,200 --> 00:57:57,360
Speaker 1: It's just ridiculous.

1193
00:57:57,640 --> 00:57:58,640
Speaker 3: Touch negative around it.

1194
00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:03,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, too much, too much, but there's a little bit left, Okay. Afterwards,

1195
00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:04,960
Speaker 1: we posted a public statement.

1196
00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:08,160
Speaker 3: Why why you learned the lessons.

1197
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:10,840
Speaker 1: Apologizing to those who got involved in how it should

1198
00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:12,840
Speaker 1: have stayed between us and mother in law. You're not

1199
00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:18,080
Speaker 1: the freaking like, I don't know, mayor, you don't need

1200
00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:19,560
Speaker 1: to post a public statement.

1201
00:58:19,640 --> 00:58:21,640
Speaker 3: No apologies over here, No.

1202
00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:24,120
Speaker 1: One follows your Facebook that closely.

1203
00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:26,120
Speaker 3: We don't know that maybe yeah, maybe.

1204
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:29,680
Speaker 1: Maybe Opie's an influencer on Facebook. We also did our

1205
00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:32,920
Speaker 1: best to our ability, breaking down what led to the situation,

1206
00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:35,200
Speaker 1: along with the fact we had talked about going limited

1207
00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:37,640
Speaker 1: to no contact with mother in law after what she

1208
00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:40,720
Speaker 1: had told AJ and MJ about not calling Bob Dad.

1209
00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:44,480
Speaker 1: We then explained the changes to plans from switching Jeremy's

1210
00:58:44,520 --> 00:58:47,760
Speaker 1: party to a simple birthday date for me for my birthday,

1211
00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:50,840
Speaker 1: and that we most likely will do Thanksgiving at our place,

1212
00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:53,040
Speaker 1: and that we will be going limited contact with mother

1213
00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:56,320
Speaker 1: in law. Basically, we went from three events being celebrated

1214
00:58:56,320 --> 00:58:59,400
Speaker 1: on Monday to three separate events on three separate days.

1215
00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:03,120
Speaker 1: We also spoke with other family members, some who asked

1216
00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:06,320
Speaker 1: us what happened, and others confirming they should be able

1217
00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:08,000
Speaker 1: to come to the new date for a sense party.

1218
00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:11,480
Speaker 1: So that's what we have so far. We posted the

1219
00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:15,680
Speaker 1: statement and new birthday invitation. So far, my husband's oldest

1220
00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:18,000
Speaker 1: sister has reacted with a heart to the new invitation,

1221
00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:21,960
Speaker 1: to the new invitation, and we haven't heard anything from

1222
00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:26,040
Speaker 1: anyone else. And that is the end of that frustrating.

1223
00:59:25,480 --> 00:59:28,880
Speaker 3: Story that was very frustrating, so frustrating. But that's the

1224
00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:31,480
Speaker 3: most frustrating time of the year. Yeah, family members.

1225
00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:33,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's trying to get everyone coordinated.

1226
00:59:33,640 --> 00:59:37,120
Speaker 3: I guess another Thanksgiving fallout story.

1227
00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:39,600
Speaker 1: More all of the stories stopped posting everything on Facebook.

1228
00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:42,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you're gonna have beef, just have beef, but

1229
00:59:42,520 --> 00:59:43,840
Speaker 3: don't post it all over.

1230
00:59:44,400 --> 00:59:46,240
Speaker 1: Go in the text chain like normal people.

1231
00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:47,400
Speaker 3: What are we in high school?

1232
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:49,560
Speaker 1: It's ridiculous, Like you can go on I don't know,

1233
00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:52,320
Speaker 1: you can text individual family members and be like, oh hey,

1234
00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:54,880
Speaker 1: I'm like so sorry that that happened. This is what

1235
00:59:54,920 --> 00:59:57,160
Speaker 1: was going on. You don't need to post it on Facebook.

1236
00:59:57,280 --> 01:00:01,800
Speaker 3: Also communicate a little bit better. Yeah, and don't point fingers.

1237
01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:04,720
Speaker 1: Yeah geez, But that's the end of that story.

1238
01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:09,000
Speaker 3: My mother in law uninvited my family from Thanksgiving. Suddenly

1239
01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:09,960
Speaker 3: she wants us back.

1240
01:00:10,040 --> 01:00:11,240
Speaker 1: You can't have them back.

1241
01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:13,680
Speaker 3: My mother in law has been ruining Thanksgiving for me

1242
01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:18,080
Speaker 3: for years, and somehow she makes it more complicated every year.

1243
01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:21,800
Speaker 3: It started out with her just being overly stressed about

1244
01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:24,640
Speaker 3: hosting and she would snap at everyone, just making the

1245
01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:28,800
Speaker 3: whole afterosphere uncomfortable. But I always tried to be helpful

1246
01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:33,800
Speaker 3: and understanding I mean hosting is stressful right. By the way,

1247
01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:36,440
Speaker 3: this comes from user Rosie Page on the r slash

1248
01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:41,520
Speaker 3: Okay storytime separated. So then one year I walked in

1249
01:00:41,600 --> 01:00:43,800
Speaker 3: on her smack talking the dessert I had brought to

1250
01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:46,920
Speaker 3: my sisters in law, and it hit me hard. This

1251
01:00:47,480 --> 01:00:48,720
Speaker 3: is where the line was drawn.

1252
01:00:49,880 --> 01:00:55,080
Speaker 1: This is her Duffinchpords backstory law winside. When I was

1253
01:00:55,120 --> 01:00:57,720
Speaker 1: a child, my mother in law made fun of my

1254
01:00:57,760 --> 01:01:01,040
Speaker 1: desserts and I never forgot it. Now I'm making the

1255
01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:04,360
Speaker 1: uh mother in law considerator.

1256
01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:09,440
Speaker 3: Thanksgiving has never been the same for me since in

1257
01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:11,800
Speaker 3: recent years other people in the family have voiced their

1258
01:01:11,840 --> 01:01:15,200
Speaker 3: opinions about her antics, so at least I felt less

1259
01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:18,720
Speaker 3: alone in it. One year, she passive aggressively announced to

1260
01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:21,480
Speaker 3: everyone in a group text then that since that it was

1261
01:01:21,600 --> 01:01:24,080
Speaker 3: very expensive, she would need us to all split up

1262
01:01:24,200 --> 01:01:28,040
Speaker 3: the dishes and bring something, as if it weren't already

1263
01:01:28,080 --> 01:01:31,080
Speaker 3: doing that. For years to begin with yeah wait it's Thanksgiving.

1264
01:01:30,720 --> 01:01:32,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, thankshaving goats.

1265
01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:35,960
Speaker 3: She would often assign my husband and me things that

1266
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:38,919
Speaker 3: she knew we couldn't mess up. Mind you, I cook

1267
01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:42,960
Speaker 3: for my family literally every day with zero complaints, like

1268
01:01:43,280 --> 01:01:47,080
Speaker 3: bring pepperoni and cheese and crackers. So pepperoni and cheese

1269
01:01:47,120 --> 01:01:51,160
Speaker 3: and crackery charcuterie. I love me as charcuterie. I desired

1270
01:01:51,160 --> 01:01:53,600
Speaker 3: a massive charcuterie board that year, just to prove that

1271
01:01:53,680 --> 01:01:56,400
Speaker 3: I was capable of more than just bringing pepperoni and cheese.

1272
01:01:56,440 --> 01:01:58,600
Speaker 3: The following year, she texted us that in addition to

1273
01:01:58,600 --> 01:02:01,160
Speaker 3: splitting up the menu, she we'd be purchasing all of

1274
01:02:01,160 --> 01:02:05,040
Speaker 3: the ingredients for us. Instructed us to venmo her out

1275
01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:07,840
Speaker 3: of share or out chair, and she would drop them

1276
01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:10,680
Speaker 3: off with her preferred dishes that she would like them

1277
01:02:10,760 --> 01:02:13,400
Speaker 3: served in the worst part is that while she has

1278
01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:16,200
Speaker 3: an assigned sweet potato casserole to me because she doesn't

1279
01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:19,080
Speaker 3: like it, she didn't even drop off fresh ingredients, half

1280
01:02:19,120 --> 01:02:21,280
Speaker 3: a bag of stale marshmallows from her pantry and a

1281
01:02:21,320 --> 01:02:23,000
Speaker 3: can of yams. That's rude.

1282
01:02:24,320 --> 01:02:27,440
Speaker 1: She's trying to sabotage your sweet potato casserole.

1283
01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:31,320
Speaker 3: Or the right ingredients or right size dishes. And in

1284
01:02:31,320 --> 01:02:34,000
Speaker 3: addition to venmoing her, I still needed to go out

1285
01:02:34,040 --> 01:02:36,560
Speaker 3: and buy the ingredients for my dish. Last year was

1286
01:02:36,600 --> 01:02:39,360
Speaker 3: particularly stressful with them in general, as there was a

1287
01:02:39,360 --> 01:02:42,560
Speaker 3: lot of other family drama going on. The one sister

1288
01:02:42,600 --> 01:02:44,560
Speaker 3: in law close with was going to be out of

1289
01:02:44,560 --> 01:02:47,320
Speaker 3: town for the holiday with her family anyway, so I

1290
01:02:47,360 --> 01:02:49,920
Speaker 3: put my foot down. I told my husband I refused

1291
01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:52,400
Speaker 3: to spend the day with his mom and wanted to

1292
01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:56,240
Speaker 3: have Thanksgiving at home with my family. He understood, and

1293
01:02:56,360 --> 01:03:00,320
Speaker 3: my in laws had friends they were hosting anyway. Then

1294
01:03:00,680 --> 01:03:03,320
Speaker 3: at the last minute, their plans fell through and they

1295
01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:07,600
Speaker 3: had no one to spend Thanksgiving with, So of course

1296
01:03:08,720 --> 01:03:11,760
Speaker 3: I agreed to invite them to our Thanksgiving. This year,

1297
01:03:11,800 --> 01:03:14,640
Speaker 3: we had all been avoiding the Thanksgiving conversation except my

1298
01:03:14,760 --> 01:03:19,880
Speaker 3: father in law, who who was relatively oblivious to everything

1299
01:03:20,240 --> 01:03:22,240
Speaker 3: and would talk about it every time we saw them.

1300
01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:25,960
Speaker 3: As of everything was going back to normal. So in

1301
01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:27,920
Speaker 3: the spirit of trying to heal all the stuff from

1302
01:03:27,920 --> 01:03:30,520
Speaker 3: the past, I didn't argue and just waited for further

1303
01:03:30,560 --> 01:03:34,080
Speaker 3: instruction from my mother in law. A few weeks ago,

1304
01:03:34,280 --> 01:03:37,880
Speaker 3: she came to my house and basically politely uninvited us

1305
01:03:37,960 --> 01:03:42,840
Speaker 3: WHOA stating that it's just a lot of people this year.

1306
01:03:44,240 --> 01:03:46,680
Speaker 1: You cannot invite someone from Thanksgiving.

1307
01:03:46,760 --> 01:03:49,440
Speaker 3: That's that's yeah, that's.

1308
01:03:49,040 --> 01:03:51,640
Speaker 1: So messed up. There's a lot of people this year.

1309
01:03:52,360 --> 01:03:56,560
Speaker 3: But then you're gonna ostracize just op It's like, ridiculous.

1310
01:03:56,640 --> 01:03:57,480
Speaker 3: I need context here.

1311
01:03:57,480 --> 01:03:59,800
Speaker 1: I cannot invite people for parties.

1312
01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:03,240
Speaker 3: For a context. It is a lot of people. She

1313
01:04:03,280 --> 01:04:06,680
Speaker 3: had always invited my family over as well, which I appreciated.

1314
01:04:07,120 --> 01:04:09,480
Speaker 3: And if she's telling me she feels it's too much

1315
01:04:09,480 --> 01:04:12,200
Speaker 3: for her, who am I to argue? To be honest,

1316
01:04:12,280 --> 01:04:14,280
Speaker 3: I was relieved to not have to spend the day

1317
01:04:14,360 --> 01:04:17,320
Speaker 3: with her until I turned and looked at my daughter's

1318
01:04:17,320 --> 01:04:20,920
Speaker 3: face and my husband's face when I told him, they

1319
01:04:20,920 --> 01:04:23,960
Speaker 3: were both extremely hurt that they were being excluded.

1320
01:04:24,120 --> 01:04:24,720
Speaker 1: So sad.

1321
01:04:25,040 --> 01:04:28,000
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, and you're like, oh, Thanksgiving, I mean, I

1322
01:04:28,040 --> 01:04:30,720
Speaker 3: don't know. Well, yeah, it's a time you want to

1323
01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:31,720
Speaker 3: spend with your family.

1324
01:04:31,840 --> 01:04:33,800
Speaker 1: And if someone's like if you were invited, and then

1325
01:04:33,840 --> 01:04:35,880
Speaker 1: someone's like, you're actually not invited anymore?

1326
01:04:36,280 --> 01:04:38,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know. Opie was like, I don't like, this

1327
01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:43,240
Speaker 3: is great, but I guess for her husband and her daughter,

1328
01:04:43,760 --> 01:04:46,720
Speaker 3: they want to go see family. On the one hand,

1329
01:04:46,760 --> 01:04:49,840
Speaker 3: it was understandable why she had chosen us, we have

1330
01:04:49,960 --> 01:04:52,280
Speaker 3: a whole other family to celebrate with. But on the

1331
01:04:52,320 --> 01:04:55,880
Speaker 3: other hand, her other children and grandchildren were still invited,

1332
01:04:56,120 --> 01:04:58,280
Speaker 3: so they definitely felt not great. About it. To make

1333
01:04:58,320 --> 01:05:00,720
Speaker 3: it worse, she suggested that we do Thanksgiving at my

1334
01:05:00,760 --> 01:05:03,400
Speaker 3: mom's house. My mom was fine with it, but I

1335
01:05:03,400 --> 01:05:05,520
Speaker 3: thought it was a bit odd to go volunteering her

1336
01:05:05,560 --> 01:05:08,960
Speaker 3: to host without even talking to her. And then everyone,

1337
01:05:09,360 --> 01:05:11,240
Speaker 3: all the people that were too many people for my

1338
01:05:11,240 --> 01:05:14,040
Speaker 3: mother in law to invite, could meet in my house

1339
01:05:14,120 --> 01:05:15,800
Speaker 3: for pie and a bonfire.

1340
01:05:15,960 --> 01:05:19,480
Speaker 1: That's crazy. Why she just she's like, oh, well, you

1341
01:05:19,520 --> 01:05:21,480
Speaker 1: can't come to my party, but maybe you could. Your

1342
01:05:21,480 --> 01:05:23,640
Speaker 1: mom could host something, and then everyone can go to.

1343
01:05:23,680 --> 01:05:26,040
Speaker 3: Your house, especially to all the people that yeah, you don't,

1344
01:05:26,200 --> 01:05:31,160
Speaker 3: you know, don't excluding fine. My kids would be devastated

1345
01:05:31,240 --> 01:05:33,320
Speaker 3: they didn't get to see their cousins for Thanksgiving. So

1346
01:05:33,440 --> 01:05:35,480
Speaker 3: we'll make it work. I think I've been a really

1347
01:05:35,480 --> 01:05:38,080
Speaker 3: good sport, even when she made it extra awkward by

1348
01:05:38,120 --> 01:05:41,520
Speaker 3: not telling anyone that she had invited us, including her

1349
01:05:41,520 --> 01:05:45,040
Speaker 3: own husband, who awkwardly asked what the plans were and

1350
01:05:45,120 --> 01:05:47,640
Speaker 3: she just hushed him and told him, don't worry about it,

1351
01:05:47,960 --> 01:05:48,920
Speaker 3: don't worry about.

1352
01:05:48,720 --> 01:05:50,120
Speaker 1: It, don't worry about it.

1353
01:05:51,280 --> 01:05:53,400
Speaker 3: Even when she lied to my eleven year old niece's

1354
01:05:53,400 --> 01:05:56,400
Speaker 3: face when she asked her if my kids would be there,

1355
01:05:56,480 --> 01:06:00,320
Speaker 3: and she told her of course, why wouldn't they be Oh.

1356
01:06:00,320 --> 01:06:02,320
Speaker 1: And then she's gonna be like on Thanksgiving Day, she

1357
01:06:02,320 --> 01:06:03,439
Speaker 1: could be like, oh, I don't know why they didn't

1358
01:06:03,440 --> 01:06:03,800
Speaker 1: show up.

1359
01:06:03,840 --> 01:06:04,439
Speaker 3: Maybe they were sick.

1360
01:06:04,920 --> 01:06:07,080
Speaker 1: Yum. I guess they don't care about the family.

1361
01:06:07,080 --> 01:06:09,840
Speaker 3: Why does Okay? The one thing I'm not getting from this,

1362
01:06:09,880 --> 01:06:12,240
Speaker 3: why does mother in law not like you guys?

1363
01:06:12,400 --> 01:06:13,760
Speaker 1: I know what's up with that?

1364
01:06:14,040 --> 01:06:16,640
Speaker 3: What did you guys do like? She doesn't like you dessert.

1365
01:06:16,800 --> 01:06:18,160
Speaker 1: I think she doesn't like OP.

1366
01:06:18,320 --> 01:06:21,080
Speaker 3: I don't think she likes op. Yeah, she's making it

1367
01:06:21,200 --> 01:06:26,640
Speaker 3: very I literally had to turn to my fourteen year old,

1368
01:06:26,680 --> 01:06:29,280
Speaker 3: who witnessed the initial conversation, and asked if I had

1369
01:06:29,280 --> 01:06:33,560
Speaker 3: imagined it. She assured me I had not. Fast forward

1370
01:06:33,640 --> 01:06:35,720
Speaker 3: to two days ago and my husband gets a phone

1371
01:06:35,720 --> 01:06:38,600
Speaker 3: call from his mom telling him that their plans fell

1372
01:06:38,640 --> 01:06:42,120
Speaker 3: through again and would and would we like to come

1373
01:06:42,160 --> 01:06:42,680
Speaker 3: after all?

1374
01:06:43,320 --> 01:06:47,000
Speaker 1: Huh No, it's probably she like the husband found out

1375
01:06:47,080 --> 01:06:49,360
Speaker 1: or something was like, dude, you have to invite our son.

1376
01:06:49,640 --> 01:06:51,920
Speaker 3: I was gonna say the exact same thing, like, because.

1377
01:06:51,680 --> 01:06:54,960
Speaker 1: He says, dude too his wife, dude, dude, God invite

1378
01:06:54,960 --> 01:06:55,520
Speaker 1: our sol.

1379
01:06:55,920 --> 01:07:00,240
Speaker 3: Bad move, dude. From a logistical also, this is like

1380
01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:01,280
Speaker 3: not the first time.

1381
01:07:01,960 --> 01:07:04,920
Speaker 1: No, this is doing this.

1382
01:07:05,000 --> 01:07:07,200
Speaker 3: I would be like, no, we're not coming. What would

1383
01:07:07,240 --> 01:07:07,480
Speaker 3: you do?

1384
01:07:07,760 --> 01:07:10,160
Speaker 1: I wouldn't go I was actively uninvited. I'd be like, no,

1385
01:07:10,240 --> 01:07:12,280
Speaker 1: you've been invited us, so we're not going to go.

1386
01:07:12,400 --> 01:07:14,800
Speaker 3: Stop making my plans get.

1387
01:07:15,200 --> 01:07:17,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, like we already planned to have people

1388
01:07:17,520 --> 01:07:20,760
Speaker 1: come in our house now, so you can explain to

1389
01:07:20,760 --> 01:07:21,720
Speaker 1: everyone why we're not there.

1390
01:07:23,200 --> 01:07:26,000
Speaker 3: From a logistical standpoint, we've already planned our menu for

1391
01:07:26,080 --> 01:07:29,080
Speaker 3: my mom's thanksgaming and purchased a majority of the food.

1392
01:07:29,960 --> 01:07:33,640
Speaker 3: But from a logistical standpoint, you can join us live

1393
01:07:33,960 --> 01:07:41,200
Speaker 3: three pm weekdays, PSD on YouTube, Facebook, TikTok, Twitch, just

1394
01:07:41,240 --> 01:07:44,120
Speaker 3: tap our profile tab. From a logistical.

1395
01:07:43,720 --> 01:07:46,400
Speaker 1: Standest, purely logistically, but.

1396
01:07:46,920 --> 01:07:50,880
Speaker 3: There's another relevant update, so don't check those out just yet,

1397
01:07:52,040 --> 01:07:53,240
Speaker 3: just a little bit after this is story.

1398
01:07:53,400 --> 01:07:56,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I think honestly, you just have your mom's

1399
01:07:57,040 --> 01:08:00,280
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving party. Don't go to your mother in law's already

1400
01:08:00,320 --> 01:08:03,920
Speaker 1: uninvited you, and then maybe just text a couple of

1401
01:08:03,920 --> 01:08:06,520
Speaker 1: people that you're close to and be like, hey, we'd

1402
01:08:06,560 --> 01:08:08,880
Speaker 1: run invited. So if you want to hop on down

1403
01:08:08,920 --> 01:08:13,160
Speaker 1: up moms instead, poach, poach the people from your.

1404
01:08:13,120 --> 01:08:15,760
Speaker 3: Mother in law. Yeah, honestly make it all about you,

1405
01:08:15,800 --> 01:08:19,800
Speaker 3: but don't invite them. Yeah. Also, yeah, you don't have

1406
01:08:19,840 --> 01:08:22,440
Speaker 3: to invite them because you say it. Every year Thanksgiving

1407
01:08:22,479 --> 01:08:24,719
Speaker 3: gets more and more stressful with her involved.

1408
01:08:24,800 --> 01:08:31,560
Speaker 1: Honestly, just start yeah, host to stay uh competing Thanksgiving? Thanksgiving?

1409
01:08:31,600 --> 01:08:34,360
Speaker 3: Who's going to join? You join? Especially if some people

1410
01:08:34,400 --> 01:08:36,320
Speaker 3: have already talked to you about Oh, we don't like

1411
01:08:36,360 --> 01:08:41,439
Speaker 3: mother in law, exactly take them. That's yeah, mother.

1412
01:08:41,400 --> 01:08:42,439
Speaker 1: Lah, that's my advice.

1413
01:08:42,600 --> 01:08:48,439
Speaker 3: No, from a moral standpoint, no, just know why would

1414
01:08:48,479 --> 01:08:50,600
Speaker 3: I want to go over there after all the frustrations

1415
01:08:50,600 --> 01:08:54,000
Speaker 3: she put everyone through this year, And to top it off,

1416
01:08:54,120 --> 01:08:56,639
Speaker 3: it really bothered me the way she went about it.

1417
01:08:57,000 --> 01:08:59,280
Speaker 3: When she knew my husband might be upset, she came

1418
01:08:59,320 --> 01:09:03,280
Speaker 3: to me to uninvite us. When she knew I would

1419
01:09:03,280 --> 01:09:05,960
Speaker 3: be peeved to have to change plans again, she went

1420
01:09:06,040 --> 01:09:10,320
Speaker 3: to him. It just feels so manipulative and cowardly. I

1421
01:09:10,360 --> 01:09:13,760
Speaker 3: felt really justified in putting my foot down and saying no,

1422
01:09:14,240 --> 01:09:18,880
Speaker 3: you made your bed, now lay in it. Except accept

1423
01:09:19,520 --> 01:09:24,759
Speaker 3: everyone is unhappy. My kids are unhappy, my nieces are unhappy,

1424
01:09:25,120 --> 01:09:29,080
Speaker 3: my husband is unhappy. Am I the able for wanting

1425
01:09:29,080 --> 01:09:31,200
Speaker 3: to just stick to the original plan to avoid my

1426
01:09:31,240 --> 01:09:34,040
Speaker 3: mother in law as much as possible that day. I

1427
01:09:34,080 --> 01:09:36,840
Speaker 3: don't want my pride to ruin everyone else's Thanksgiving, but

1428
01:09:37,360 --> 01:09:40,639
Speaker 3: I also really don't want to spend it with her.

1429
01:09:41,840 --> 01:09:45,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, don't see this is this different from the last

1430
01:09:45,880 --> 01:09:48,479
Speaker 1: story that we read. It is where everyone was posted

1431
01:09:48,520 --> 01:09:51,160
Speaker 1: on Facebook and she was like, this is just I

1432
01:09:51,160 --> 01:09:53,760
Speaker 1: think just half the You've already planned this Thanksgiving out

1433
01:09:53,800 --> 01:09:56,200
Speaker 1: with your mom. Yeah, so it's not even like your

1434
01:09:56,200 --> 01:09:58,000
Speaker 1: pride is getting the way and you just already have

1435
01:09:58,080 --> 01:09:59,960
Speaker 1: plans because you were uninvited to other ones.

1436
01:10:00,280 --> 01:10:03,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, no it she she's was the hostess with the

1437
01:10:03,560 --> 01:10:06,840
Speaker 3: mostest and then everything fell through. Sucks to suck. Yeah

1438
01:10:08,200 --> 01:10:10,479
Speaker 3: that that your plants fell through. You can't just put

1439
01:10:10,520 --> 01:10:12,920
Speaker 3: it on other people. But it does suck. That's the

1440
01:10:12,920 --> 01:10:16,960
Speaker 3: moral standpoint of everyone else is said, yeah, what would

1441
01:10:16,960 --> 01:10:18,960
Speaker 3: you do? Like I think I would still go, I mean,

1442
01:10:20,560 --> 01:10:23,320
Speaker 3: would you invite mother in law? And like everyone else like,

1443
01:10:23,320 --> 01:10:25,160
Speaker 3: oh yeah, we just spend time with family and like

1444
01:10:25,320 --> 01:10:26,479
Speaker 3: just biting tongues, and I.

1445
01:10:26,600 --> 01:10:30,080
Speaker 1: Totally misunderstand they're inviting the mother in law to the moms.

1446
01:10:29,880 --> 01:10:32,559
Speaker 3: Right now, I guess the mother in law is gonna

1447
01:10:32,560 --> 01:10:37,160
Speaker 3: be involved with all their stuff. Now, Oh no ah,

1448
01:10:38,240 --> 01:10:44,400
Speaker 3: I say, op because it's again it's not her ops Like, okay,

1449
01:10:44,400 --> 01:10:48,080
Speaker 3: with missing on the mother in law, it's it's the nieces,

1450
01:10:48,160 --> 01:10:52,240
Speaker 3: the cousins, the daughters. True that they miss out on

1451
01:10:52,280 --> 01:10:54,960
Speaker 3: a fun Thanksgiving, that's true, but they still have the moms.

1452
01:10:55,479 --> 01:10:56,240
Speaker 1: Who's going to that?

1453
01:10:57,200 --> 01:10:59,320
Speaker 3: You know what? Like this, you can just see like

1454
01:10:59,360 --> 01:11:03,160
Speaker 3: this year, Hey, we're not gonna see mother in law unfortunately,

1455
01:11:03,280 --> 01:11:05,920
Speaker 3: or grandma law will host a party. Yeah, we're gonna

1456
01:11:05,920 --> 01:11:07,760
Speaker 3: have our own thing, our own shindig, or we're gonna

1457
01:11:07,800 --> 01:11:11,280
Speaker 3: go to you know, Opie's mom's own party, and yeah,

1458
01:11:11,439 --> 01:11:14,400
Speaker 3: have our own little shindig. I don't know. Yeah, she

1459
01:11:14,520 --> 01:11:17,400
Speaker 3: doesn't deserve to just keep walking all over UOPI and

1460
01:11:17,439 --> 01:11:20,120
Speaker 3: everyone else during Thanksgivings. It's a family event. It shouldn't

1461
01:11:20,160 --> 01:11:22,920
Speaker 3: be her event. Yeah, I agreed, But that's the end

1462
01:11:22,920 --> 01:11:23,479
Speaker 3: of that story.

1463
01:11:23,720 --> 01:11:26,560
Speaker 1: My in laws hate me, but I refuse to apologize

1464
01:11:26,600 --> 01:11:26,920
Speaker 1: to them.

1465
01:11:27,280 --> 01:11:29,599
Speaker 3: No apologies for them are deserved.

1466
01:11:29,720 --> 01:11:32,000
Speaker 1: This happened almost a year ago now, but I wanted

1467
01:11:32,000 --> 01:11:34,800
Speaker 1: to get other people's opinions of the situation and that

1468
01:11:34,880 --> 01:11:38,960
Speaker 1: I wasn't being Delulu. Sorry in advance, it's a little long.

1469
01:11:39,479 --> 01:11:42,479
Speaker 1: I eighteen female, got with my now husband, twenty male,

1470
01:11:42,680 --> 01:11:45,640
Speaker 1: who we will call Mark. Before we got married, I

1471
01:11:45,720 --> 01:11:48,320
Speaker 1: hung out with Mark, his mom, who I will call Pax,

1472
01:11:48,360 --> 01:11:51,800
Speaker 1: and sister eighteen female, who I will call Amy. You

1473
01:11:51,880 --> 01:11:57,200
Speaker 1: got your eighteen you got married at eighteen. It's crazy.

1474
01:11:57,520 --> 01:11:58,919
Speaker 1: By the way, this comes from.

1475
01:11:59,040 --> 01:12:02,480
Speaker 3: Oh crazy, some people loved just want to get very.

1476
01:12:02,280 --> 01:12:06,920
Speaker 1: Hey, that's quit crazy? Uh? I can this it a dry?

1477
01:12:07,920 --> 01:12:11,360
Speaker 1: What a can this? It'd a dry? Fifty eight seventy

1478
01:12:11,360 --> 01:12:12,839
Speaker 1: six on the Okay storytime separated?

1479
01:12:12,880 --> 01:12:13,960
Speaker 3: What spell do you just put on me?

1480
01:12:14,240 --> 01:12:17,360
Speaker 1: I can't it. When I first hung out with them,

1481
01:12:17,360 --> 01:12:19,479
Speaker 1: they seemed pretty nice and seemed to like me, But

1482
01:12:19,520 --> 01:12:22,320
Speaker 1: the situation changed when I got married to Mark. When

1483
01:12:22,360 --> 01:12:24,880
Speaker 1: we first got married, Mark's mom wanted us to live

1484
01:12:24,920 --> 01:12:26,880
Speaker 1: with her until we got a house, which we didn't

1485
01:12:26,920 --> 01:12:29,040
Speaker 1: mind because as long as we were going to be together,

1486
01:12:29,160 --> 01:12:32,360
Speaker 1: we didn't care. At first, everything was going great. We

1487
01:12:32,400 --> 01:12:35,840
Speaker 1: all got along together and hung out together sometimes. Some

1488
01:12:35,960 --> 01:12:38,320
Speaker 1: red flags I should have seen at first, though, were

1489
01:12:38,320 --> 01:12:41,200
Speaker 1: that his sister kept comparing me to his ex and

1490
01:12:41,280 --> 01:12:44,639
Speaker 1: kept trying to push me to smoke. I've always hated

1491
01:12:44,640 --> 01:12:46,719
Speaker 1: the smell of it, and it hurts my head. After

1492
01:12:46,760 --> 01:12:48,760
Speaker 1: a month of us living there, I still wasn't that

1493
01:12:48,840 --> 01:12:52,000
Speaker 1: comfortable around them because I am a very, very introverted person.

1494
01:12:52,640 --> 01:12:55,320
Speaker 1: I usually hung out in my and Mark's room, but

1495
01:12:55,400 --> 01:12:58,400
Speaker 1: I always helped around with cleaning and their other siblings.

1496
01:12:58,640 --> 01:13:00,920
Speaker 1: But Mark's mom started to get mad that I wouldn't

1497
01:13:00,960 --> 01:13:03,960
Speaker 1: call her mom, and that's weird. For context, I used

1498
01:13:03,960 --> 01:13:06,080
Speaker 1: to call her miss packs because I found it polite,

1499
01:13:06,160 --> 01:13:08,920
Speaker 1: and my parents always said to be polite to people

1500
01:13:09,040 --> 01:13:12,160
Speaker 1: and call the miss or mister. Also, what did people

1501
01:13:12,200 --> 01:13:14,320
Speaker 1: even call their mother in law or father in law

1502
01:13:14,360 --> 01:13:17,000
Speaker 1: when talking to them? But I wasn't that fond of

1503
01:13:17,040 --> 01:13:19,280
Speaker 1: calling her mom because I wasn't even that close to

1504
01:13:19,320 --> 01:13:21,679
Speaker 1: her and had only known her for a few months

1505
01:13:21,680 --> 01:13:24,920
Speaker 1: at the time. Well after she had a conversation with

1506
01:13:25,000 --> 01:13:28,240
Speaker 1: Mark about it not me, she started to become more

1507
01:13:28,439 --> 01:13:31,800
Speaker 1: rude towards me. She kept trash talking me behind my back,

1508
01:13:31,960 --> 01:13:34,679
Speaker 1: saying that eventually I was going to cheat on Mark

1509
01:13:34,760 --> 01:13:36,679
Speaker 1: and that he should leave me before it's too late.

1510
01:13:37,040 --> 01:13:39,080
Speaker 1: And then I'm such a bee because I stole her

1511
01:13:39,120 --> 01:13:41,280
Speaker 1: son away from her and that I was controlling him.

1512
01:13:42,479 --> 01:13:45,400
Speaker 1: What she thought I was controlling him because he said

1513
01:13:45,400 --> 01:13:47,799
Speaker 1: he wanted to stop smoking because I would hurt his throat.

1514
01:13:47,880 --> 01:13:51,679
Speaker 3: What what is this story? What is this story where like, oh, yeah,

1515
01:13:51,680 --> 01:13:52,880
Speaker 3: smoking is the best faker.

1516
01:13:53,040 --> 01:13:54,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is so strange, Like.

1517
01:13:55,000 --> 01:13:57,000
Speaker 3: You can to everyone out there, you can do whatever

1518
01:13:57,040 --> 01:13:58,360
Speaker 3: you want. It's your body, your choice.

1519
01:13:58,400 --> 01:14:02,200
Speaker 1: Crazy that the mom want her son to keep smoking.

1520
01:14:01,800 --> 01:14:04,280
Speaker 3: But you should also respect other people's choices.

1521
01:14:04,680 --> 01:14:06,360
Speaker 1: So I kept trying to help him with that, and

1522
01:14:06,400 --> 01:14:08,880
Speaker 1: when he would tell his sister and mom no whenever

1523
01:14:09,000 --> 01:14:11,759
Speaker 1: they tried to give him a vape, this is crazy.

1524
01:14:11,760 --> 01:14:13,800
Speaker 3: This is a really crazy story.

1525
01:14:13,840 --> 01:14:16,720
Speaker 1: He feels like one of those PSAs where it's like,

1526
01:14:16,880 --> 01:14:19,720
Speaker 1: come on, it's cool, you should smoke, and the mom's like,

1527
01:14:19,760 --> 01:14:22,840
Speaker 1: come on, it won't be any harm, and.

1528
01:14:22,800 --> 01:14:26,280
Speaker 3: They're like, no, be like Mark, it's literally sound was

1529
01:14:26,320 --> 01:14:28,559
Speaker 3: like the very stereotypical be like Mark, Yeah, just say

1530
01:14:28,600 --> 01:14:29,840
Speaker 3: no and get married at eighteen.

1531
01:14:29,840 --> 01:14:32,080
Speaker 1: And yeah, this feels like a Mormon commercial.

1532
01:14:33,520 --> 01:14:35,439
Speaker 3: I was gonna say, uh.

1533
01:14:35,479 --> 01:14:37,599
Speaker 1: They thought that I was forcing him not to smoke,

1534
01:14:37,720 --> 01:14:40,120
Speaker 1: even though he himself told them he just wanted to

1535
01:14:40,160 --> 01:14:43,400
Speaker 1: stop smoking. Mark's mom kept saying this and other things

1536
01:14:43,400 --> 01:14:46,799
Speaker 1: to Mark and his sister. Soon after, Mark's sister also

1537
01:14:46,840 --> 01:14:49,720
Speaker 1: started to dislike me because she also kept claiming that

1538
01:14:49,760 --> 01:14:52,040
Speaker 1: I stole her brother from her and then compared me

1539
01:14:52,120 --> 01:14:56,200
Speaker 1: to his ex even more after that. Meanwhile, while they

1540
01:14:56,200 --> 01:14:58,800
Speaker 1: were trash talking me, they never told me about it

1541
01:14:58,920 --> 01:15:01,920
Speaker 1: and kept acting night towards me. I only heard about

1542
01:15:01,920 --> 01:15:03,840
Speaker 1: it from Mark, but I didn't want to say anything

1543
01:15:03,840 --> 01:15:05,679
Speaker 1: about it to them because I didn't want to cause

1544
01:15:05,720 --> 01:15:08,800
Speaker 1: any issues between them. While they were pretending to be

1545
01:15:08,880 --> 01:15:10,640
Speaker 1: nice to me, they kept trying to force me to

1546
01:15:10,680 --> 01:15:12,680
Speaker 1: open up to them and kept getting mad when they

1547
01:15:12,680 --> 01:15:15,200
Speaker 1: would huddle up in his mom's room and talk, and

1548
01:15:15,240 --> 01:15:17,400
Speaker 1: I wouldn't talk as much because I usually wouldn't know

1549
01:15:17,439 --> 01:15:21,679
Speaker 1: what to say. One day, during these talks, for some reason,

1550
01:15:22,160 --> 01:15:24,519
Speaker 1: his mom asked me and him if we had ever

1551
01:15:24,640 --> 01:15:27,639
Speaker 1: done it yet spicy sleep and me and Mark kept

1552
01:15:27,680 --> 01:15:29,720
Speaker 1: quiet and just gave each other a glance because we

1553
01:15:29,760 --> 01:15:32,320
Speaker 1: both thought it was weird. When we said nothing, she

1554
01:15:32,439 --> 01:15:35,080
Speaker 1: just randomly asked me if I had ever touched myself before?

1555
01:15:35,360 --> 01:15:37,559
Speaker 3: Ugh, what the heck? Easy to get out of the

1556
01:15:37,560 --> 01:15:41,599
Speaker 3: story were family family weird, family's weird?

1557
01:15:41,920 --> 01:15:44,519
Speaker 1: And again I became uncomfortable because I have never talked

1558
01:15:44,520 --> 01:15:47,080
Speaker 1: about stuff like this with anyone, not even my parents.

1559
01:15:47,760 --> 01:15:50,519
Speaker 1: When I didn't say anything. She kept saying, just tell me.

1560
01:15:50,640 --> 01:15:52,840
Speaker 1: You don't have to be ashamed. We've all done it,

1561
01:15:52,960 --> 01:15:56,400
Speaker 1: we're all women. And I eventually said no, and then

1562
01:15:56,439 --> 01:15:59,200
Speaker 1: she just pulled out her bag of toys and showed

1563
01:15:59,280 --> 01:16:01,360
Speaker 1: me and said, look, I have all of these, and

1564
01:16:01,400 --> 01:16:02,760
Speaker 1: if you want, I can give you one and you

1565
01:16:02,800 --> 01:16:07,559
Speaker 1: can try it out. Oh my gosh, oh my god.

1566
01:16:09,160 --> 01:16:11,080
Speaker 1: I would get out of there, get out of there.

1567
01:16:12,720 --> 01:16:15,920
Speaker 1: I said no, but thanks though, because I'm a people

1568
01:16:15,960 --> 01:16:19,240
Speaker 1: pleaser and hate not being polite or rude. And she said, okay,

1569
01:16:19,360 --> 01:16:21,639
Speaker 1: well I at least want you to try playing with yourself.

1570
01:16:22,840 --> 01:16:26,760
Speaker 1: Get out of there. I didn't say anything again, and

1571
01:16:26,840 --> 01:16:28,360
Speaker 1: she said, well, your homework for.

1572
01:16:28,439 --> 01:16:30,040
Speaker 2: Me is for you to touch yourself.

1573
01:16:32,080 --> 01:16:38,080
Speaker 3: Ah out out what the hell out?

1574
01:16:39,280 --> 01:16:41,360
Speaker 1: And I just stood there in shock and didn't know

1575
01:16:41,400 --> 01:16:43,439
Speaker 1: what to say or do. So I'm in an excuse

1576
01:16:43,520 --> 01:16:45,600
Speaker 1: to leave and go back to my room. After that,

1577
01:16:45,800 --> 01:16:48,920
Speaker 1: I did become a little more distant, but I never

1578
01:16:49,040 --> 01:16:51,120
Speaker 1: once said anything about it, not even to Mark. You

1579
01:16:51,160 --> 01:16:51,800
Speaker 1: gotta talk to Mark.

1580
01:16:51,840 --> 01:16:52,720
Speaker 3: Got talk more about that.

1581
01:16:53,080 --> 01:16:55,879
Speaker 1: And around that time Mark had to work overtime sometimes

1582
01:16:55,920 --> 01:16:58,280
Speaker 1: that we would get home late a few times. But

1583
01:16:58,400 --> 01:17:01,000
Speaker 1: since I knew his mom loved talking. I would tell him,

1584
01:17:01,320 --> 01:17:03,600
Speaker 1: are you not going to talk with them? And he

1585
01:17:03,680 --> 01:17:06,360
Speaker 1: said no, he was too exhausted and tired. So we

1586
01:17:06,400 --> 01:17:09,160
Speaker 1: would just pop in a room and say hi, good afternoon,

1587
01:17:09,640 --> 01:17:11,320
Speaker 1: and that we were tired and we were going to

1588
01:17:11,439 --> 01:17:13,720
Speaker 1: our room, and she never seemed to mind, because she

1589
01:17:13,760 --> 01:17:19,160
Speaker 1: seemed to understand. It was around Christmas when everything went downhill.

1590
01:17:19,640 --> 01:17:21,479
Speaker 1: For Christmas, we ended up going to my father in

1591
01:17:21,560 --> 01:17:24,760
Speaker 1: law's house in the afternoon. His mom and dad are separated,

1592
01:17:25,080 --> 01:17:28,439
Speaker 1: and everything was going well. We were playing around with

1593
01:17:28,520 --> 01:17:31,479
Speaker 1: his other siblings and having a good time. Then it

1594
01:17:31,640 --> 01:17:34,439
Speaker 1: came time for presents. I had gotten them each a

1595
01:17:34,479 --> 01:17:36,200
Speaker 1: present because I would have felt bad if I went

1596
01:17:36,240 --> 01:17:38,960
Speaker 1: empty handed, so I gave them each their things, and

1597
01:17:39,160 --> 01:17:41,519
Speaker 1: everyone else opened up their other gifts, and we were

1598
01:17:41,560 --> 01:17:44,160
Speaker 1: about to leave because it was getting late, but father

1599
01:17:44,240 --> 01:17:47,640
Speaker 1: in law stopped and stopped us and said that he

1600
01:17:47,760 --> 01:17:50,679
Speaker 1: felt bad because he didn't get me anything. I said

1601
01:17:50,680 --> 01:17:52,479
Speaker 1: that it was all right, and I didn't mind because

1602
01:17:52,560 --> 01:17:55,800
Speaker 1: my family never celebrated Christmas before anyways, and I was

1603
01:17:55,920 --> 01:17:58,679
Speaker 1: just happy to being there. But he said to wait

1604
01:17:58,760 --> 01:18:01,680
Speaker 1: real quick and left to get something and came back

1605
01:18:01,760 --> 01:18:04,599
Speaker 1: with two guitars and said, you can have one of these.

1606
01:18:04,720 --> 01:18:07,800
Speaker 1: I don't use them anyway. They just stay put. Take

1607
01:18:07,880 --> 01:18:10,880
Speaker 1: whichever one you want, it doesn't matter to me. I said, no,

1608
01:18:11,040 --> 01:18:13,120
Speaker 1: it's fine, really, I don't mind, and I would feel

1609
01:18:13,160 --> 01:18:15,400
Speaker 1: bad taking one, and he kept reassuring me that it

1610
01:18:15,520 --> 01:18:18,280
Speaker 1: was fine. Eventually he ended up asking Mark what my

1611
01:18:18,360 --> 01:18:21,559
Speaker 1: favorite color was, and Mark said blue. And so, since

1612
01:18:21,640 --> 01:18:24,240
Speaker 1: one of the guitars was dark blue, father in law

1613
01:18:24,320 --> 01:18:26,720
Speaker 1: said take this one. I have a feeling that you

1614
01:18:26,760 --> 01:18:30,160
Speaker 1: would like it since it's dark blue. Because he felt

1615
01:18:30,160 --> 01:18:33,200
Speaker 1: bad for not giving me anything, so I said all right,

1616
01:18:33,320 --> 01:18:36,000
Speaker 1: I will thank you, and he said no problem and

1617
01:18:36,120 --> 01:18:38,120
Speaker 1: said that it was the least he could do. I'm

1618
01:18:38,120 --> 01:18:44,719
Speaker 1: thinking maybe, I do think that maybe maybe he's gonna.

1619
01:18:44,479 --> 01:18:47,080
Speaker 3: Be like she took my guitar, or the families like

1620
01:18:47,520 --> 01:18:49,720
Speaker 3: you gave her a guitar, Like maybe why didn't you

1621
01:18:49,800 --> 01:18:51,920
Speaker 3: give us a guitar? Like the guitar is so much

1622
01:18:52,200 --> 01:18:55,080
Speaker 3: expensive then, like socks so much more than inspect than sogs.

1623
01:18:56,320 --> 01:18:58,840
Speaker 1: On the way back to the house, Mark's sister seemed

1624
01:18:59,120 --> 01:19:03,519
Speaker 1: mad and asked what's wrong, and she said that guitar

1625
01:19:03,640 --> 01:19:05,760
Speaker 1: was supposed to be mine because I always liked it

1626
01:19:05,800 --> 01:19:07,960
Speaker 1: and that was my favorite guitar my dad had. And

1627
01:19:08,080 --> 01:19:10,680
Speaker 1: I said, oh, I'm sorry I didn't know, and she said, no,

1628
01:19:10,840 --> 01:19:13,519
Speaker 1: it's whatever, though I don't care, but she said it

1629
01:19:13,600 --> 01:19:14,519
Speaker 1: with a nasty face.

1630
01:19:14,800 --> 01:19:17,240
Speaker 3: How old is do we have an eighteen eight No, no,

1631
01:19:17,400 --> 01:19:18,080
Speaker 3: op's eighteen.

1632
01:19:18,160 --> 01:19:18,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're all eighteen.

1633
01:19:18,960 --> 01:19:19,719
Speaker 3: They're all eighteen.

1634
01:19:19,760 --> 01:19:22,320
Speaker 1: They're all eighteen, well except for the op's husband now

1635
01:19:22,479 --> 01:19:25,080
Speaker 1: twenty okay, but they're all like around eighteen.

1636
01:19:25,400 --> 01:19:28,559
Speaker 3: Oh okay, guys. I was like, wow, the sisters said

1637
01:19:28,600 --> 01:19:31,200
Speaker 3: the sister sounds like she's sixteen, Like she just figured

1638
01:19:31,200 --> 01:19:32,400
Speaker 3: it out herself.

1639
01:19:32,840 --> 01:19:34,880
Speaker 1: A few weeks after that, when me and her were

1640
01:19:35,000 --> 01:19:37,080
Speaker 1: just in the kitchen, she brought up the guitar again

1641
01:19:37,240 --> 01:19:39,519
Speaker 1: and kept saying it should have been mine, and you

1642
01:19:39,560 --> 01:19:41,800
Speaker 1: shouldn't have gotten that one because you should have known

1643
01:19:41,880 --> 01:19:44,760
Speaker 1: it was mine. I felt really bad and tired of

1644
01:19:45,080 --> 01:19:47,160
Speaker 1: her arguing about it, so I said, if you want,

1645
01:19:47,280 --> 01:19:48,519
Speaker 1: I can go get it and you can have it,

1646
01:19:49,000 --> 01:19:51,200
Speaker 1: and she said, yeah, give me my guitar because it

1647
01:19:51,200 --> 01:19:54,560
Speaker 1: shouldn't even even bend yours in the first place. I

1648
01:19:54,600 --> 01:19:56,720
Speaker 1: felt bad giving her the guitar because it was something

1649
01:19:56,800 --> 01:19:58,560
Speaker 1: my father in law gave me so I felt like

1650
01:19:58,640 --> 01:20:00,439
Speaker 1: I was just giving away a present he gave me,

1651
01:20:00,920 --> 01:20:02,760
Speaker 1: but I gave it to her anyway so she would

1652
01:20:02,760 --> 01:20:05,760
Speaker 1: stop being mad. And the next morning, when I woke up,

1653
01:20:05,960 --> 01:20:08,200
Speaker 1: the guitar was on the wall between my bedroom and

1654
01:20:08,240 --> 01:20:11,000
Speaker 1: the bathroom, and I asked her why she didn't put

1655
01:20:11,040 --> 01:20:13,400
Speaker 1: it in her room, and she said that she wasn't

1656
01:20:13,400 --> 01:20:15,519
Speaker 1: going to take something that wasn't even meant for her.

1657
01:20:16,400 --> 01:20:20,479
Speaker 1: I said, oh, okay, and put it back in my room.

1658
01:20:20,800 --> 01:20:22,879
Speaker 1: And after that she didn't want to talk to me anymore.

1659
01:20:23,000 --> 01:20:25,240
Speaker 1: And when she did, she said she was trying to

1660
01:20:25,320 --> 01:20:27,640
Speaker 1: be mature and told me that I need to be

1661
01:20:27,760 --> 01:20:30,519
Speaker 1: more mature and stop controlling Mark.

1662
01:20:30,760 --> 01:20:32,320
Speaker 3: Oh'll get out of all the lies.

1663
01:20:33,520 --> 01:20:35,560
Speaker 1: And after those talks, I soon found out that she

1664
01:20:35,680 --> 01:20:38,200
Speaker 1: was talking crap about me to our coworkers and people

1665
01:20:38,240 --> 01:20:41,559
Speaker 1: at school. I again didn't say anything because I didn't

1666
01:20:41,600 --> 01:20:44,559
Speaker 1: want to cause a whole scene for no reason. Then

1667
01:20:44,680 --> 01:20:47,240
Speaker 1: people came up to ask me why I'm being such

1668
01:20:47,360 --> 01:20:49,519
Speaker 1: a bee and why do I think I can and

1669
01:20:49,640 --> 01:20:52,400
Speaker 1: why do I think I can control anything? So I

1670
01:20:52,439 --> 01:20:55,080
Speaker 1: would try and tell them what happened, and they said, oh,

1671
01:20:55,400 --> 01:20:58,000
Speaker 1: I always told something different, and I said, yeah, I

1672
01:20:58,120 --> 01:21:00,519
Speaker 1: kind of thought. So and they said, oh, I'll watch

1673
01:21:00,600 --> 01:21:02,479
Speaker 1: out because she kept telling everyone that she was going

1674
01:21:02,560 --> 01:21:03,760
Speaker 1: to fight you when she saw you.

1675
01:21:04,960 --> 01:21:08,120
Speaker 3: Who is his sister? This sister from the sister from

1676
01:21:08,880 --> 01:21:12,599
Speaker 3: hockey sticks. Yeah, the families wild. The family's the dad's

1677
01:21:12,640 --> 01:21:15,240
Speaker 3: like I didn't get you anything. Guitar, here's a guitar,

1678
01:21:15,520 --> 01:21:20,519
Speaker 3: and then sisters like that's man, this family is whack whack.

1679
01:21:21,120 --> 01:21:23,559
Speaker 1: We had first period together and she never even talked

1680
01:21:23,600 --> 01:21:25,799
Speaker 1: to me in that class. So I said, oh, okay,

1681
01:21:26,200 --> 01:21:28,360
Speaker 1: because I wasn't that bothered because she kept saying that

1682
01:21:28,439 --> 01:21:30,960
Speaker 1: for a while and I said, well, thanks for telling me.

1683
01:21:31,400 --> 01:21:33,639
Speaker 1: Do you think high school which is crazy? Oh?

1684
01:21:33,800 --> 01:21:36,120
Speaker 3: No, this is even wilder her.

1685
01:21:36,760 --> 01:21:39,960
Speaker 1: Did you move out of your parents' house? What happened there?

1686
01:21:40,000 --> 01:21:42,720
Speaker 3: Did we get like, I don't know. I think she

1687
01:21:43,160 --> 01:21:45,240
Speaker 3: is she staying with Mark? Yeah, she's staying with Mark,

1688
01:21:45,360 --> 01:21:48,200
Speaker 3: but she moved on her parents house. And you guys

1689
01:21:48,240 --> 01:21:50,559
Speaker 3: got a merit what happened?

1690
01:21:51,520 --> 01:21:53,560
Speaker 1: And giggled because I didn't know what to say. And

1691
01:21:53,680 --> 01:21:55,760
Speaker 1: so after a few weeks or a month after this,

1692
01:21:55,960 --> 01:21:57,880
Speaker 1: my parents told me they were fixing up a camper

1693
01:21:58,040 --> 01:22:00,639
Speaker 1: and had it ready to rent out if we wanted

1694
01:22:00,640 --> 01:22:02,760
Speaker 1: to we could live there for a little bit, which

1695
01:22:02,800 --> 01:22:04,960
Speaker 1: I was very thankful for, and I wanted to say

1696
01:22:05,080 --> 01:22:07,320
Speaker 1: yes right away. I said I will talk to Mark

1697
01:22:07,320 --> 01:22:09,960
Speaker 1: about it, thank you, and she said no problem. So

1698
01:22:10,080 --> 01:22:13,200
Speaker 1: I asked Mark and he said yes straight away. Also

1699
01:22:13,280 --> 01:22:15,479
Speaker 1: because at this time his mom was pressuring him to

1700
01:22:15,560 --> 01:22:18,360
Speaker 1: break up with me and calling me names even more.

1701
01:22:18,560 --> 01:22:20,680
Speaker 1: And so we moved out and had to go back

1702
01:22:20,680 --> 01:22:22,760
Speaker 1: and forth between taking her stuff to the camper and

1703
01:22:22,840 --> 01:22:26,599
Speaker 1: getting our things from his mom's house. Since I showed

1704
01:22:26,640 --> 01:22:29,639
Speaker 1: Mark the camper, his mom hated me even more because

1705
01:22:29,680 --> 01:22:33,040
Speaker 1: apparently I was trying to separate them and brainwash him

1706
01:22:33,120 --> 01:22:36,760
Speaker 1: into hating his mom, and so she told him that

1707
01:22:36,800 --> 01:22:38,960
Speaker 1: I was no longer welcome into their house and if

1708
01:22:39,000 --> 01:22:41,320
Speaker 1: I tried going, she was going to call the cops

1709
01:22:41,360 --> 01:22:41,519
Speaker 1: on me.

1710
01:22:41,840 --> 01:22:45,080
Speaker 3: What is this family? They just want Mark, They don't

1711
01:22:45,080 --> 01:22:47,880
Speaker 3: want Mark to leave the nest. But this is like extreme,

1712
01:22:48,160 --> 01:22:48,839
Speaker 3: so extreme.

1713
01:22:49,439 --> 01:22:52,120
Speaker 1: So I couldn't even enter to get my things. So

1714
01:22:52,320 --> 01:22:54,760
Speaker 1: Mark asked my siblings if they could go and help

1715
01:22:54,840 --> 01:22:56,519
Speaker 1: him get most of our things, and they did.

1716
01:22:57,920 --> 01:22:57,960
Speaker 3: So.

1717
01:22:58,160 --> 01:23:00,519
Speaker 1: Soon after that, Mark went back to go so get

1718
01:23:00,600 --> 01:23:02,759
Speaker 1: the last bit of our things that were in the house.

1719
01:23:03,200 --> 01:23:04,960
Speaker 1: But when he went in there to get my guitar

1720
01:23:05,080 --> 01:23:08,240
Speaker 1: and a cat tree we left. The cat tree, uh oh,

1721
01:23:08,320 --> 01:23:11,280
Speaker 1: and a cat tree we left. The cat tree was ripped,

1722
01:23:11,360 --> 01:23:13,479
Speaker 1: and she wouldn't even let him get the guitar because

1723
01:23:13,479 --> 01:23:15,720
Speaker 1: she claimed that I never even played it and it

1724
01:23:15,800 --> 01:23:18,880
Speaker 1: was supposed to be hers anyway. And he said, but

1725
01:23:19,040 --> 01:23:21,040
Speaker 1: she tried giving it to you, and you gave it

1726
01:23:21,160 --> 01:23:24,639
Speaker 1: back because you wanted to throw a fit. And she said, whatever,

1727
01:23:24,760 --> 01:23:27,800
Speaker 1: then take that stupid piece of crap. And so we

1728
01:23:27,920 --> 01:23:32,760
Speaker 1: finally got everything. After that, I thought everything was going

1729
01:23:32,880 --> 01:23:35,720
Speaker 1: to be fine, but then for some reason, my mom

1730
01:23:35,840 --> 01:23:38,880
Speaker 1: wanted to have a meeting with us and Mark's mom

1731
01:23:39,040 --> 01:23:41,080
Speaker 1: to make sure. We asked her if we could have

1732
01:23:41,160 --> 01:23:43,120
Speaker 1: moved out. Why do you have to ask to move out?

1733
01:23:43,200 --> 01:23:45,439
Speaker 3: Aren't you guys adults? I mean they still in high

1734
01:23:45,439 --> 01:23:46,160
Speaker 3: school though, that's the thing.

1735
01:23:46,200 --> 01:23:48,200
Speaker 1: I don't know. Well, it wouldn't because March.

1736
01:23:48,080 --> 01:23:50,880
Speaker 3: Two, yeah, March twenty. But like, this is weird. This

1737
01:23:51,000 --> 01:23:52,280
Speaker 3: is weird, which.

1738
01:23:52,080 --> 01:23:54,400
Speaker 1: I'm guessing his mom complained to my parents about. And

1739
01:23:54,520 --> 01:23:56,439
Speaker 1: so when we got there, my parents told me to

1740
01:23:56,479 --> 01:23:59,240
Speaker 1: eat first and we'll talk after I finished eating, which

1741
01:23:59,240 --> 01:24:01,360
Speaker 1: I said, no, oh, I lost my appetite now to

1742
01:24:01,439 --> 01:24:04,080
Speaker 1: my dad, he said that I need to stop lying.

1743
01:24:04,520 --> 01:24:07,000
Speaker 1: I said, how am I lying? And he said because

1744
01:24:07,080 --> 01:24:08,800
Speaker 1: mis Pax told me that you were rude to her

1745
01:24:08,960 --> 01:24:11,080
Speaker 1: and talked back to her and never said good morning

1746
01:24:11,160 --> 01:24:13,519
Speaker 1: and good evening to her. And he had to translate

1747
01:24:13,640 --> 01:24:15,800
Speaker 1: what he said to my mom, and my mom got

1748
01:24:15,880 --> 01:24:17,719
Speaker 1: mad at me and said, you need to stop talking

1749
01:24:17,800 --> 01:24:19,840
Speaker 1: back and you need to apologize for being rude in

1750
01:24:19,920 --> 01:24:23,080
Speaker 1: Spanish because she doesn't know English. In Spanish, I told

1751
01:24:23,120 --> 01:24:25,479
Speaker 1: my mom, I'm not going to apologize because they didn't

1752
01:24:25,479 --> 01:24:28,320
Speaker 1: do anything wrong, and she only complained to them because

1753
01:24:28,360 --> 01:24:30,960
Speaker 1: she wants everything to go her way and she just

1754
01:24:31,080 --> 01:24:33,640
Speaker 1: wanted them to force me to apologize to her, and

1755
01:24:33,720 --> 01:24:35,599
Speaker 1: that I'm not going to because she's not a little

1756
01:24:35,680 --> 01:24:37,680
Speaker 1: kid who can just go crying to adults and get

1757
01:24:37,680 --> 01:24:41,000
Speaker 1: her way. My mom got mad and started saying it

1758
01:24:41,080 --> 01:24:44,120
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. You still have to apologize anyway, and my

1759
01:24:44,240 --> 01:24:46,680
Speaker 1: dad cut in said you better apologize or I'm going

1760
01:24:46,720 --> 01:24:48,960
Speaker 1: to hit you. Oh my god, oh wow, no, And

1761
01:24:49,040 --> 01:24:50,960
Speaker 1: I said, I don't care hit me if you want,

1762
01:24:51,040 --> 01:24:53,240
Speaker 1: but I'm not going to apologize because they haven't done

1763
01:24:53,280 --> 01:24:56,120
Speaker 1: anything wrong. And then Mark's mom got up from her

1764
01:24:56,160 --> 01:24:57,920
Speaker 1: seat and said, you know what, I'm just gonna leave

1765
01:24:57,960 --> 01:24:59,960
Speaker 1: because I can tell that she isn't going to apologize,

1766
01:25:00,520 --> 01:25:04,080
Speaker 1: and then walked off. This is so much.

1767
01:25:04,800 --> 01:25:09,280
Speaker 3: Why what's the mom? What's with the sister? It seems

1768
01:25:09,280 --> 01:25:12,120
Speaker 3: like that like Mark's dad's fine, marx Dad's the coolest GI.

1769
01:25:12,240 --> 01:25:14,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the guitar. Everyone else is a.

1770
01:25:14,439 --> 01:25:16,520
Speaker 3: Night everyone else is a nightmare.

1771
01:25:17,320 --> 01:25:19,479
Speaker 1: Then the next day in school, I heard from someone

1772
01:25:19,520 --> 01:25:21,759
Speaker 1: that Mark's sister has been telling everyone that I cussed

1773
01:25:21,800 --> 01:25:24,360
Speaker 1: out Mark's mom, which is not even near the truth,

1774
01:25:24,439 --> 01:25:26,439
Speaker 1: and I told her that she needs to stop lying

1775
01:25:27,000 --> 01:25:29,560
Speaker 1: and stop talking about something that she wasn't even there for,

1776
01:25:30,680 --> 01:25:32,920
Speaker 1: and she just walked away all pissed and still kept

1777
01:25:32,960 --> 01:25:36,519
Speaker 1: talking about it. Then I posted something on TikTok, which

1778
01:25:36,560 --> 01:25:39,479
Speaker 1: I admit was childish, but at the time I was

1779
01:25:39,600 --> 01:25:44,200
Speaker 1: sixteen and didn't care. I posted to the sound Euphoria

1780
01:25:44,320 --> 01:25:47,040
Speaker 1: by Kendrick Lamar, the trend that goes, I hate the

1781
01:25:47,080 --> 01:25:48,920
Speaker 1: way you walk, the way you talk, and I guess

1782
01:25:48,960 --> 01:25:52,280
Speaker 1: she had been telling everyone everything to marx X because

1783
01:25:52,360 --> 01:25:55,760
Speaker 1: marx X kept viewing my profile and then commented on

1784
01:25:55,840 --> 01:25:58,160
Speaker 1: that video saying, there's two sides to every story.

1785
01:25:58,800 --> 01:26:02,360
Speaker 3: Okay, this is high school, so it is high school.

1786
01:26:02,360 --> 01:26:04,320
Speaker 1: It seems like at the time they weren't married at

1787
01:26:04,320 --> 01:26:06,519
Speaker 1: that point. Okay, it seems like they weren't married at

1788
01:26:06,520 --> 01:26:09,680
Speaker 1: that point they were just dating. Okay, and OHPI was

1789
01:26:10,360 --> 01:26:16,000
Speaker 1: also living in Mark's house anyway at sixteen.

1790
01:26:15,760 --> 01:26:19,880
Speaker 3: I it wasn't very Yeah, I guess I'm confused.

1791
01:26:19,439 --> 01:26:22,080
Speaker 1: By it, Yeah, because it seems like, oh, he's still

1792
01:26:22,280 --> 01:26:25,240
Speaker 1: someone in contact with her parents. So I'm like, what's

1793
01:26:25,280 --> 01:26:25,560
Speaker 1: going on.

1794
01:26:25,800 --> 01:26:27,479
Speaker 3: I don't know what's going on. Maybe she's staying there.

1795
01:26:27,560 --> 01:26:28,120
Speaker 3: Maybe I don't know.

1796
01:26:28,280 --> 01:26:31,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's some missing information here, which I found ironic

1797
01:26:31,640 --> 01:26:34,080
Speaker 1: because she didn't ask for my side but kept attacking me.

1798
01:26:34,800 --> 01:26:36,920
Speaker 1: I said, why is she even commenting? It wasn't even

1799
01:26:36,920 --> 01:26:39,559
Speaker 1: about her, and then she never responded. So now Mark

1800
01:26:39,600 --> 01:26:42,080
Speaker 1: Sex keeps trying to text Mark saying that I have

1801
01:26:42,160 --> 01:26:45,720
Speaker 1: people attacking her and are so and so are all

1802
01:26:45,800 --> 01:26:48,519
Speaker 1: my little dogs quote unquote, which is funny because I

1803
01:26:48,600 --> 01:26:51,320
Speaker 1: literally only have like four close friends and I have

1804
01:26:51,479 --> 01:26:54,280
Speaker 1: never even talked to Mark Zex or mentioned her name,

1805
01:26:54,400 --> 01:26:56,439
Speaker 1: so I have new So I have no clue what

1806
01:26:56,560 --> 01:26:59,360
Speaker 1: Mark's sister told her that I said about her. And yes,

1807
01:26:59,479 --> 01:27:01,839
Speaker 1: I know that Mark's sister told her I said something

1808
01:27:01,880 --> 01:27:04,240
Speaker 1: about her because she texted it to Mark one time.

1809
01:27:04,760 --> 01:27:06,760
Speaker 1: I have the receipts. By the way, I have no

1810
01:27:06,880 --> 01:27:09,479
Speaker 1: clue why you guys wouldn't join us live every weekday

1811
01:27:09,560 --> 01:27:12,320
Speaker 1: at three pm PSD on YouTube, Facebook and TikTok. Just

1812
01:27:12,400 --> 01:27:15,080
Speaker 1: top her profile, just tap it so easy and there

1813
01:27:15,160 --> 01:27:18,879
Speaker 1: is a little bit more. But it seems like Opie,

1814
01:27:19,160 --> 01:27:22,880
Speaker 1: from what I'm understanding, was dating Mark at sixteen. Yes,

1815
01:27:23,200 --> 01:27:25,519
Speaker 1: I guess, moved into Mark's family's house.

1816
01:27:25,720 --> 01:27:28,000
Speaker 3: They don't like her because she's taking Mark away.

1817
01:27:28,040 --> 01:27:32,320
Speaker 1: She's taking Mark away, trying to actively force her out

1818
01:27:32,360 --> 01:27:35,280
Speaker 1: of the house and then get her parents involved, and

1819
01:27:35,360 --> 01:27:38,680
Speaker 1: her parents are like probably very strict in something. Uh,

1820
01:27:38,960 --> 01:27:40,599
Speaker 1: there's probably I mean, there's got to be some sort

1821
01:27:40,600 --> 01:27:42,880
Speaker 1: of complicated situation going on there if she's living with

1822
01:27:43,360 --> 01:27:44,479
Speaker 1: her at the time point.

1823
01:27:44,520 --> 01:27:46,200
Speaker 3: Yes, friend, I mean you saw what the dad said.

1824
01:27:46,320 --> 01:27:48,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's got to be something on something very

1825
01:27:49,320 --> 01:27:53,120
Speaker 1: not Yeah. And then I guess at eighteen, she's still

1826
01:27:53,360 --> 01:27:58,360
Speaker 1: living with them after two years of experiencing this and

1827
01:27:58,600 --> 01:27:59,680
Speaker 1: is now married to him.

1828
01:28:00,240 --> 01:28:03,040
Speaker 3: I don't, Yeah, I feel like there's a little not

1829
01:28:03,160 --> 01:28:06,040
Speaker 3: unnecessarily unreliable narrator it's just like I need a better

1830
01:28:06,200 --> 01:28:07,120
Speaker 3: cleaned up timeline.

1831
01:28:07,320 --> 01:28:10,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that you need to as soon as possible,

1832
01:28:10,520 --> 01:28:12,200
Speaker 1: as soon as you saved enough, get out of there.

1833
01:28:12,640 --> 01:28:15,760
Speaker 3: My one thing is what's Mark saying in all of this?

1834
01:28:16,280 --> 01:28:18,240
Speaker 3: I mean, we haven't gotten anything from Mark?

1835
01:28:18,280 --> 01:28:20,360
Speaker 1: Marks just like okay, yeah, I mean he like kind

1836
01:28:20,360 --> 01:28:22,040
Speaker 1: of stood up to his sister.

1837
01:28:22,560 --> 01:28:26,320
Speaker 3: But he hasn't like defended ohp or like something that

1838
01:28:26,400 --> 01:28:28,479
Speaker 3: we're hearing at least, No, but like something is just like,

1839
01:28:28,920 --> 01:28:32,000
Speaker 3: there's so many main characters here, yeah, and Mark is

1840
01:28:32,040 --> 01:28:34,720
Speaker 3: one of the biggest characters because it's what ties it

1841
01:28:34,760 --> 01:28:37,559
Speaker 3: all together. And Mark seems like he's not involved at all.

1842
01:28:37,760 --> 01:28:39,760
Speaker 1: No, but there's a little bit less to the story.

1843
01:28:39,760 --> 01:28:42,280
Speaker 1: So let's see if Mark jumps in try to help.

1844
01:28:42,840 --> 01:28:45,960
Speaker 1: But after that, Mark stopped talking to his mom because

1845
01:28:46,000 --> 01:28:48,280
Speaker 1: whenever he would try to, she would always bring me

1846
01:28:48,360 --> 01:28:50,840
Speaker 1: up in a negative way and Mark was tired of it,

1847
01:28:50,960 --> 01:28:53,160
Speaker 1: so he doesn't talk to her or his sister anymore.

1848
01:28:53,400 --> 01:28:55,559
Speaker 1: But Mark's sister has been going around the family telling

1849
01:28:55,720 --> 01:28:58,920
Speaker 1: everybody and everybody her version of the story and saying

1850
01:28:58,960 --> 01:29:01,640
Speaker 1: that I'm rude and and that she puts curses on me.

1851
01:29:02,479 --> 01:29:04,320
Speaker 1: But at this point, I don't care about whatever she

1852
01:29:04,439 --> 01:29:06,760
Speaker 1: says because I'm tired of it and so is Mark.

1853
01:29:07,320 --> 01:29:10,040
Speaker 1: But no matter what, whenever we go hang out with

1854
01:29:10,120 --> 01:29:12,720
Speaker 1: Mark's family, they always tell me, why don't I just

1855
01:29:12,800 --> 01:29:15,320
Speaker 1: apologize and stop being so childish? So am I the

1856
01:29:15,400 --> 01:29:17,879
Speaker 1: a whole? And there are some notes to clarify.

1857
01:29:18,080 --> 01:29:19,280
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, yes, thank you.

1858
01:29:19,920 --> 01:29:23,519
Speaker 1: When all this happened, I was sixteen and Mark was eighteen. Yes,

1859
01:29:23,640 --> 01:29:25,880
Speaker 1: I know we married early, so I guess they married

1860
01:29:25,920 --> 01:29:29,840
Speaker 1: at sixteen. My parents are very religious and think the

1861
01:29:29,880 --> 01:29:31,720
Speaker 1: couples should marry if they are sure they want to

1862
01:29:31,760 --> 01:29:34,680
Speaker 1: be together forever. If there are any questions, I will

1863
01:29:34,720 --> 01:29:37,960
Speaker 1: answer and that is the end of that story. Man

1864
01:29:38,040 --> 01:29:41,639
Speaker 1: oh man. So I'm I'm honestly a little bit confused

1865
01:29:41,960 --> 01:29:44,200
Speaker 1: whether or not they're still living with Mark's family.

1866
01:29:44,479 --> 01:29:47,240
Speaker 3: There was like you just eem a very like and

1867
01:29:47,360 --> 01:29:49,200
Speaker 3: then this, yeah, and you're gonna just take it with

1868
01:29:49,320 --> 01:29:51,320
Speaker 3: no contact. Yeah, okay, I think.

1869
01:29:51,160 --> 01:29:53,559
Speaker 1: There's a possibility that they're not still living with the family, or.

1870
01:29:53,600 --> 01:29:55,800
Speaker 3: Maybe the guitar. Yeah, I don't know. The guitar thing

1871
01:29:55,840 --> 01:29:57,720
Speaker 3: also like stood out to me, like, oh, my father

1872
01:29:57,720 --> 01:29:59,559
Speaker 3: in law gave me the guitar.

1873
01:30:00,640 --> 01:30:03,200
Speaker 1: Actually, I just realized they're not still living with the family.

1874
01:30:03,240 --> 01:30:04,960
Speaker 1: They must be living in the camper because they moved

1875
01:30:04,960 --> 01:30:07,920
Speaker 1: everything out so they Yeah, they must still be living

1876
01:30:07,960 --> 01:30:08,439
Speaker 1: in the camper.

1877
01:30:08,680 --> 01:30:10,880
Speaker 3: But I guess she was living when because she said

1878
01:30:10,920 --> 01:30:13,160
Speaker 3: this was all happening when she was sixteen. Yeah, so

1879
01:30:13,280 --> 01:30:17,080
Speaker 3: I guess then she was living with him, with Mark

1880
01:30:17,160 --> 01:30:18,440
Speaker 3: at with sixteen.

1881
01:30:18,240 --> 01:30:20,559
Speaker 1: At sixteen and married him. Yeah.

1882
01:30:21,479 --> 01:30:24,840
Speaker 3: Interesting. But you don't owe them an apology.

1883
01:30:24,560 --> 01:30:27,000
Speaker 1: No, no, don't apologize, just don't, which just seems like

1884
01:30:27,000 --> 01:30:28,760
Speaker 1: you guys aren't really talking to them anyway, which is

1885
01:30:28,800 --> 01:30:29,240
Speaker 1: a good idea.

1886
01:30:29,320 --> 01:30:31,040
Speaker 3: Good on These people are crazy good on Mark too,

1887
01:30:31,360 --> 01:30:33,160
Speaker 3: just like my family sucks. Yeah.

1888
01:30:33,400 --> 01:30:36,320
Speaker 1: No, as soon as you can limit contact with all

1889
01:30:36,400 --> 01:30:39,240
Speaker 1: of them, it seems like that might be the way

1890
01:30:39,280 --> 01:30:42,000
Speaker 1: to go, the best thing you can do. But that

1891
01:30:42,200 --> 01:30:44,000
Speaker 1: is the end of that story and the end of

1892
01:30:44,040 --> 01:30:47,000
Speaker 1: this episode. So if you love us, make sure to subscribe.

1893
01:30:47,080 --> 01:30:49,280
Speaker 3: We love you and see you tomorrow.