WEBVTT - The Diddy Trial: Verdicts In, Bail Denied!!!

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<v Speaker 1>Hey there, folks. It is Wednesday, July second, and Sean

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<v Speaker 1>Diddy Combs is not going home after all, at least

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<v Speaker 1>not yet, after what was a wild, at times bizarre,

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<v Speaker 1>at times emotional, at times surprising, at times explosive final

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<v Speaker 1>day of the Diddy trial. Bottom line, did he one?

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome everybody to this Diddy update episode of Amy and

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<v Speaker 1>TJ Ropes. I cannot believe we are here. The trial

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<v Speaker 1>is over mixed verdict, but it's clear who won this thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you said did he one? But I would say

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<v Speaker 2>he partially WONO.

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<v Speaker 3>I gotta hear this because yes, yes, he obviously evaded

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<v Speaker 3>the most punitive and the harshest counts against him, and

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<v Speaker 3>so he avoided life in prison. So yes, for that alone.

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<v Speaker 3>Of course, his freedom is coming. But a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>folks thought, and including you, thought that he might actually

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<v Speaker 3>be on his private plane tonight, flying back to Miami

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<v Speaker 3>or wherever he wanted to go, with.

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<v Speaker 2>A few conditions attached to that bail.

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<v Speaker 3>But he was denied bail, and right now his sentencing

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<v Speaker 3>hearing this could be moved up a little bit, but

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<v Speaker 3>right now it is scheduled for the fall October third,

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<v Speaker 3>so he's still behind bars.

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<v Speaker 1>He lost his bail hearing. He won his trial today,

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<v Speaker 1>he won flat out. I would love to see any lawyer,

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<v Speaker 1>any analyst get on TV and try to spin this

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<v Speaker 1>any other way than total humiliation for the government, a

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<v Speaker 1>total loss by the government, and some will tell you

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<v Speaker 1>a total waste of time by the government in overcharging

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<v Speaker 1>this man. They can have that argument down the road.

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<v Speaker 1>But he racketeering, not guilty. That was life in prison,

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<v Speaker 1>the two counts that came with minimum fifteen years. Not

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<v Speaker 1>guilty sex trafficking. He has now been found guilty of

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<v Speaker 1>being a john. He has been found guilty of paying

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<v Speaker 1>for a prostitute, and he could possibly get two years

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<v Speaker 1>in jail or less.

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<v Speaker 2>That is correct. Absolutely, you are correct.

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<v Speaker 3>However, the reason why he was denied bail because a

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<v Speaker 3>lot in to your point.

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<v Speaker 2>He was convicted of being a john.

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<v Speaker 3>That would not normally be a conviction in which somebody

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<v Speaker 3>would be held or denied bail until a sentencing hearing happened.

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<v Speaker 3>But because of the domestic violence that he clearly admitted

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<v Speaker 3>to that the defense absolutely capt to, because the judge

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<v Speaker 3>said that he has a propensity for violence behind closed doors,

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<v Speaker 3>and there were two victim or at least witness statements

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<v Speaker 3>to the judge asking to keep him behind bars until

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<v Speaker 3>his sentencing. That is why he is still behind bars

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<v Speaker 3>tonight and until his sentencing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Cassif interrefined as part of the reason he is

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<v Speaker 1>still behind bars tonight. She is one of the folks

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<v Speaker 1>who sent a letter to the judge making a case

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<v Speaker 1>for why he should be denied bail. He should not

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<v Speaker 1>be released while awaiting awaiting sentencing. So, if we go back,

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<v Speaker 1>it started this morning. You got the no news. I

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<v Speaker 1>know everybody got the alerts, but this was around eleven

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<v Speaker 1>o'clock eleven this morning. The jury sends a note we

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<v Speaker 1>have a verdict. The jury eventually comes in, the verdicts

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<v Speaker 1>get read. We knew four were already settled. We knew

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<v Speaker 1>racketeering was the problem. But lo and behold rope. Sure enough,

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<v Speaker 1>they must have figured it out. We were told people

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<v Speaker 1>were unpersuadable.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what, isn't that so interesting? Because yes, we

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<v Speaker 3>were conjecturing last night. We're like, is he guilty on

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<v Speaker 3>some of the charges, and they're trying to figure out racketeering?

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<v Speaker 3>Is he guilty on all of the charges. We figured

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<v Speaker 3>there had to be some guilty verdicts in there. We

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<v Speaker 3>just weren't sure which was which. That made the most

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<v Speaker 3>sense for them to be confused about racketeering. But it

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<v Speaker 3>is remarkable that they could go from actually just initially

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<v Speaker 3>deliberating for sixty minute, an hour, seventy minutes saying this

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<v Speaker 3>one juror will not budge, they will not move, and

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<v Speaker 3>then after the second day saying we can't come up

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<v Speaker 3>with a unanimous decision.

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<v Speaker 2>The deliberation has stopped. People are unmovable.

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<v Speaker 3>And yet somehow when you ask a juri to go

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<v Speaker 3>back and to keep trying, they do.

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<v Speaker 2>And wow, I was impressed that that quickly.

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<v Speaker 3>They all reached unanimous verdicts on all five clouds.

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<v Speaker 1>So they were movable. Somebody was movable, exactly the word

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<v Speaker 1>they they were ready to They actually told the judge

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<v Speaker 1>the day before. It was pointless. They didn't even need

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<v Speaker 1>to keep deliberating because nobody's going to change their mind on.

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<v Speaker 3>To night's sleep changes a lot of folks minds and

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<v Speaker 3>disposition sometimes, right, So.

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<v Speaker 1>We get that word so here it is so the reaction,

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<v Speaker 1>at least the reaction we were. Yes, we were able

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<v Speaker 1>to read through some of the notes from people who

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<v Speaker 1>were in the room describing what happened. But this might

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<v Speaker 1>have been the most valuable courtroom artist sketch I have

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<v Speaker 1>seen for the whole trial.

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<v Speaker 2>It was incredible.

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<v Speaker 3>It showed Ditty on his knees in praying position, and

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<v Speaker 3>that was pretty remark well. That was the emotion that

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<v Speaker 3>he was experiencing as he was awaiting these verdicts coming down.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I just so many of us tried to

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<v Speaker 3>imagine what it would have been like for him, for

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<v Speaker 3>his family members, knowing that verdicts were in, that they

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<v Speaker 3>hadn't been announced, that they were waiting on this final,

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<v Speaker 3>most important, most serious charge, and when the news came

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<v Speaker 3>in that they had unanimous decisions, he fell to his

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<v Speaker 3>knees in prayer.

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<v Speaker 2>That was a very powerful sketch.

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<v Speaker 1>And applause in the courtroom from his family, and you

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<v Speaker 1>better believe those cheers erupted. And it makes sense that

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<v Speaker 1>they would look every judge, and I know you've been

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<v Speaker 1>in plenty of court rooms. I think I would say

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<v Speaker 1>fifty to fifty and seeing whether or not the folks

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<v Speaker 1>in the courtroom obeyed the judge when he says, now,

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<v Speaker 1>when the verdict is read, I do not want any

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<v Speaker 1>reactions from either side, and sure enough it gets blown

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<v Speaker 1>out of the water. It's never the case. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you can imagine the eruption of emotion because they knew

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<v Speaker 1>when they heard it what they were hearing, and they

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<v Speaker 1>knew that did he had won won that trial. Absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>he lost his bail hearing. Again, Look, there was a

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<v Speaker 1>high bar. Remember he put up his fifty million dollar house,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four hour security, all these things he offered, and

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<v Speaker 1>the judge wouldn't let him be out on bail awaiting trial.

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<v Speaker 1>During the trial, so this judge is essentially saying, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you haven't proven that you're any less of a flight risk.

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<v Speaker 2>Nothing changed.

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<v Speaker 3>And he also said even when did he knew he

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<v Speaker 3>was under investigation, that there was still that admission of

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<v Speaker 3>domestic violence while he was waiting to see if he

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<v Speaker 3>was going to be arrested in charge, but he knew

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<v Speaker 3>he was being investigated. And he pointed out to the

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<v Speaker 3>point of the fact that Jane even testified to this

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<v Speaker 3>and did he did not deny physically assaulting her.

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<v Speaker 2>While he knew he was being investigated.

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<v Speaker 3>So that was part of the reason why the judge said, no,

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<v Speaker 3>your bail is denied. But even his mother, his sister,

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<v Speaker 3>his eldest daughter, actually put up a million dollars bond.

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<v Speaker 2>They signed it.

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<v Speaker 3>They said he would only travel to four states Florida, California,

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<v Speaker 3>New Jersey, and New York. They said he would surrender

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<v Speaker 3>his passport. They really did everything they could to try

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<v Speaker 3>and compel the judge to allow him to await sentencing

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<v Speaker 3>at home until he was then sentenced.

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<v Speaker 2>And the sentencing.

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<v Speaker 3>Actually came down quite a bit because we heard initially

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<v Speaker 3>from Komy from the prosecution saying they were going to

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<v Speaker 3>ask for twenty years. That changed pretty quickly, which is

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<v Speaker 3>interesting throughout the day.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because you probably went and opened up that legal

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<v Speaker 1>book and saw what they were looking at and saw

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<v Speaker 1>what the guidelines were. And so I don't have the

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<v Speaker 1>months and you haven't had it frown yet, but they

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<v Speaker 1>have the And the judge said this, like the defense prosecution,

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<v Speaker 1>y'all are so far off yea on what y'all want.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they wanted twenty years. Then they amended it to this.

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<v Speaker 3>The prosecution is asking for fifty one to sixty three

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<v Speaker 3>months in terms of sentencing, so that's anywhere from.

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<v Speaker 2>Four to five years roughly.

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<v Speaker 3>The defense is asking for twenty one to twenty seven months,

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<v Speaker 3>so just shot, Yeah, just shy of two years to

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<v Speaker 3>two years in three months.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you take do the twenty one months, say

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<v Speaker 1>they want to send him to twenty one months, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what that is? One year time served is nine months.

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<v Speaker 1>It counts against the sentence. He's already served nine months in.

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<v Speaker 2>Rail, so that's another year behind bars.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's all they would be. Let's say he got

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<v Speaker 1>twenty one months, nine months of that is time served?

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<v Speaker 1>Did he is gonna go away for one year and

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<v Speaker 1>be back after all this? Possibly not. We don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what the judge you're gonna do, but it's just it

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<v Speaker 1>is fascinating to see what the possibilities now are. I

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<v Speaker 1>guess we should explain to folks what was going on

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<v Speaker 1>with us today. We actually live very close by to

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<v Speaker 1>where the trial takes place. We've talked about this plenty.

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<v Speaker 1>If you listen to any of our podcasts, you know this.

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<v Speaker 1>So we live, what are we a few blocks away

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<v Speaker 1>from where the trial is happening. We've been following this

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<v Speaker 1>thing closely every single day, doing at least one ditty update,

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes doing two. I mean because it's warned it and

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<v Speaker 1>sure enough the verdict comes down. You know where we were.

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<v Speaker 2>At JFK and.

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<v Speaker 1>Then thirty thousand feet in the air with no Wi Fi.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, and so this we have actually a family vacation

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<v Speaker 3>with all of our daughters that has been planned for months,

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<v Speaker 3>months before.

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<v Speaker 2>We even knew that the Ditty trial was going to

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<v Speaker 2>be what it was.

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<v Speaker 3>That we'd be covering it and the way we were,

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<v Speaker 3>and Murphy's Law would have it so that the very

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<v Speaker 3>day this trial we've been following so closely, where all

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<v Speaker 3>of the decisions are made, the verdicts come down, the

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<v Speaker 3>bail is either granted or denied. We are stuck without

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<v Speaker 3>any service, without any Wi Fi and no oh wait,

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<v Speaker 3>so we were the last people to know actually what.

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<v Speaker 1>Probably were We were probably the last certainly the sentencing.

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<v Speaker 1>I was losing it as we were laying and nobody

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<v Speaker 1>was getting Wi Fi. I was snatching your phone. I

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<v Speaker 1>was snatching Sabine's phone. Somebody, does anybody get this to work?

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<v Speaker 1>But it's just how it happens. But I rose, I say,

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<v Speaker 1>we live a couple blocks away. We probably would have

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<v Speaker 1>walked over today. But seeing this is something we haven't

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<v Speaker 1>talked about, is the what's described is pretty wild scene

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<v Speaker 1>outside the courthouse today, wild involving arguments evolving yelling and

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<v Speaker 1>screaming and baby oil in all kinds of food.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you hear.

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<v Speaker 3>About baby oil being like thrown at different people and squirted,

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<v Speaker 3>and given all of the testimony that we heard, you

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<v Speaker 3>could think maybe it was in jest.

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<v Speaker 2>Or I don't want to say it was playful, but

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<v Speaker 2>you could think maybe it.

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<v Speaker 3>Was just people expressing themselves and using certain props that

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<v Speaker 3>were pertinent to the trial. But no, this was described

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<v Speaker 3>as mean spirited, as anger, as volatile, as not. Honestly,

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<v Speaker 3>I say, we probably would have gone down there and

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<v Speaker 3>just observed, but it didn't sound like a scene anyone

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<v Speaker 3>wanted to be near. In fact, we actually on our

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<v Speaker 3>way to the airport, we were driving what was it

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<v Speaker 3>six point thirty in the morning, It was already a

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<v Speaker 3>zoo out there. All the media attempts were packed, all

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<v Speaker 3>of the influencers and YouTubers and all the folks who

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<v Speaker 3>have come on to describe and be kind of novice journalists.

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<v Speaker 2>They're just describing the thing. We had all just swarmed

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<v Speaker 2>that area.

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<v Speaker 3>It was fascinating to see as we were driving through it,

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<v Speaker 3>and then to see what it's turned into. This afternoon,

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<v Speaker 3>given the verdict and given the sentencing is wild, and what.

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<v Speaker 1>Will they do now? I am sure as we speak

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<v Speaker 1>it's possible juror interviews have already been secured, but they're coming,

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<v Speaker 1>and folks are chasing those folks down. The judge did

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<v Speaker 1>encourage the jury today before he let them go. You

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<v Speaker 1>can do an interview if you want to. You're certainly

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<v Speaker 1>not obligated. You can say no to all of them.

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<v Speaker 1>But he encouraged them to not talk about the deliberations.

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<v Speaker 1>What happens in that juror room should stay there. He

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<v Speaker 1>reminded them of that.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that in part because obviously there were.

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<v Speaker 3>Juror issues throughout this trial, not as significant as we've

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<v Speaker 3>seen in other trials, but certainly there were juror issues.

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<v Speaker 2>And that is.

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<v Speaker 3>Always possibly a way for the defense to ask for

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<v Speaker 3>an appeal based on certain things that may or may

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<v Speaker 3>not have gone on during those deliberations. If jurors are

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<v Speaker 3>talking about it, that could also lend itself to create

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<v Speaker 3>certain issues within either party, but the defense specifically to

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<v Speaker 3>ask for an appeal. And now, granted you said that

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<v Speaker 3>he won, but he still was convicted of two charges,

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<v Speaker 3>and if those two charges.

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<v Speaker 2>Went away, he wouldn't have to spend any time at prison.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you still pushing back on the notion that Sean

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<v Speaker 1>did he Combs won today?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, of course, this was almost best case scenario.

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<v Speaker 3>Obviously, an acquittal on all charges would have been a

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<v Speaker 3>full victory.

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<v Speaker 1>Goodness, I have no if he got convicted on just

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<v Speaker 1>one of the accounts of prostitution, for transportation for prostitution,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe that was there is nothing. This is unbelievable. This

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<v Speaker 1>is a massive Yes, it's a massive victory for this man.

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<v Speaker 4>It is.

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<v Speaker 1>It absolutely is. And look the overcharging what needs to happen,

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<v Speaker 1>look like I guess they think they're doing what's best.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess they think they're putting a monster in prison

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<v Speaker 1>for the rest of his life, a mobster, the CEO

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<v Speaker 1>of a criminal enterprise. You have to think they had

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<v Speaker 1>they were doing this in good faith. You want to

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<v Speaker 1>think that. But we've been talking about this Ropes for

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<v Speaker 1>the past few weeks. Our conversations have been about this thing, like, Wow, really,

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<v Speaker 1>this is what the case spoils down to. And if

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<v Speaker 1>I had to sit on that jury saying I gotta

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<v Speaker 1>send a man a jail for the rest of his life,

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<v Speaker 1>for being a criminal enterprise CEO.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, the puzzling thing is if you're a juror, or

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<v Speaker 3>if you're just a spectator like us and you're just

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<v Speaker 3>watching this from afar, if you know he committed crimes

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<v Speaker 3>that are irrefutably evidenced and he's even admitting them, but

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<v Speaker 3>you choose not to charge him with those crimes because

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<v Speaker 3>you try to go after some bigger fish, You try

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<v Speaker 3>to create some larger, bigger, trumped up charge. That's where

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<v Speaker 3>you lose the confidence of people, of jurors, of humans

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<v Speaker 3>who are witnessing this. I think everyone can say he

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<v Speaker 3>did not treat women well, he was abusive, he did

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<v Speaker 3>commit criminal acts, charge him with those. Why then try

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<v Speaker 3>to go make some bigger case to put him behind

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<v Speaker 3>bars for the rest of his life when clearly he

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<v Speaker 3>could have been charged and convicted and he even says

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<v Speaker 3>he would have admitted and please he did guilty to

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<v Speaker 3>the charges that he did, I mean the crimes that

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<v Speaker 3>he did commit. And I think that's an issue that

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of folks are going to talk about, and

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<v Speaker 3>it's already being talked about among legal experts that the

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<v Speaker 3>prosecution overreached and this blew back in their faces because

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<v Speaker 3>of it.

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<v Speaker 1>He's an abuser that they tried to convince us was

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<v Speaker 1>a racketeer and it just didn't make sense to us

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<v Speaker 1>intellectually and legally. But it just that's tough, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>a very tough day for the prosecution to go through

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<v Speaker 1>all this. Who knows how many millions this costs those raids.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a lot of police time and investigation time and

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<v Speaker 1>trial for this. And look, this is difficult because we've

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<v Speaker 1>seen him behave badly. People want him to be in

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<v Speaker 1>prison for what he did, but they actually don't want

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<v Speaker 1>him to go to prison for racketeering and sex trafficking

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<v Speaker 1>and all this. It's a bizarre thing that you look

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<v Speaker 1>get this result and it's a win and a loss

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<v Speaker 1>no matter who you are.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I mean, obviously there are plenty of victims advocacy

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<v Speaker 3>groups stepping up and speaking out and saying this has

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<v Speaker 3>done such a disservice to victims around the world who

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<v Speaker 3>are sex trafficked, who are abused, whatever. So in a

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<v Speaker 3>weird way, yes, I hear what you're saying. The Diddy won,

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<v Speaker 3>but so many people lost, and I do think a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>Of it is because the prosecution overreached.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what, who And again when you say lost,

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<v Speaker 1>is do they turn that anger to ditty or where

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<v Speaker 1>should it be directed? We're not going after him for

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<v Speaker 1>the right thing for why'd you overcharge him here? I

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<v Speaker 1>don't who knows about that? But here's my wild card

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<v Speaker 1>now for you Trump, Trump, with Trump now not mined

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<v Speaker 1>at all. Pardoning a guy who's found guilty of hiring a.

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<v Speaker 2>Prostitute, I don't know, it's a worthy question.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a much different pardon. Trump would love to be

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<v Speaker 1>in the middle of the story right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Who knows it? Could?

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<v Speaker 3>You know, with everything that's happened in this case, it

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<v Speaker 3>would not surprise me if Trump jumped into the mix

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<v Speaker 3>of all of this. But you know what, as much

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<v Speaker 3>as we've been covering this, and yes, technically the trial

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<v Speaker 3>is over, the verdicts have been handed down, but we're

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<v Speaker 3>still awaiting sentencing that he is still behind bars, and

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<v Speaker 3>who knows how quickly the defense can expedite the sentencing

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<v Speaker 3>because they said that they obviously would, and it's the

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<v Speaker 3>judge said he's open to hearing that inquiry by the

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<v Speaker 3>defense to get this sentencing over with so that he

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<v Speaker 3>can continue. He's obviously serving his time regardless, so he's

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<v Speaker 3>getting credit for time served. But yeah, a year from now,

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<v Speaker 3>A year from now, did he could be a free

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<v Speaker 3>man again.

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<v Speaker 1>We await the sentencing hearing. I had one more thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess we'll go ahead, right, well, the jurors.

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<v Speaker 2>The jurors are the other thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I think, the second we start hearing from jurors,

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<v Speaker 3>we'll jump back on this because I actually, personally, on

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<v Speaker 3>a human level, cannot wait to hear who is willing

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<v Speaker 3>to talk and what they're willing to tell us about

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<v Speaker 3>their feelings about what they heard, what they witnessed, what

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<v Speaker 3>they thought, And I.

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<v Speaker 2>Cannot wait to hear what they have to say.

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<v Speaker 3>And of course, once we get any of that kind

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<v Speaker 3>of information, we will absolutely jump back on and give

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<v Speaker 3>you the latest on that.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember, I thought it was about the justice system. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>just took another hit. Every time Right Biden said it,

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<v Speaker 1>Mayor Adam said it. Trump always says it that the

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<v Speaker 1>justice system is unfair, It unfairly goes after people that

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<v Speaker 1>they were being right persecuted by the Justices Apartment. It's

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<v Speaker 1>being used against them, and all these things and these

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<v Speaker 1>high profile folks. Joe Biden partned his son, right talking

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<v Speaker 1>about the justice system all these things. So now when

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<v Speaker 1>we see this the government just went after this guy,

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<v Speaker 1>the jury, the public said, no, that's not okay, that's

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<v Speaker 1>a hit for the justice system. That's a hit now

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<v Speaker 1>to where everybody can say, well, those charges are false.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't believe now in so many instances, well yeah, well,

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<v Speaker 1>and government said it must be true.

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<v Speaker 3>And by the way, obviously yes did. He is a

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<v Speaker 3>black man. But he is a wealthy, wealthy, wealthy black

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<v Speaker 3>man who can hire the best attorneys there are in

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<v Speaker 3>this or at least in this country to defend him.

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<v Speaker 3>And how many people don't have that, how many people

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<v Speaker 3>don't have that sort of resource.

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<v Speaker 1>To that point, it just sucks. It's another hit for

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<v Speaker 1>the justice system. He is one of the he's a unicorn.

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<v Speaker 1>He is one of the most successful black men we've

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<v Speaker 1>ever seen exist in this country. He just and we

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<v Speaker 1>witness his rise. He hired institutes and you're a federal

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<v Speaker 1>case out of it. That again, it will sit with

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<v Speaker 1>the public a certain way that you're still coming after us,

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<v Speaker 1>no matter how low on the totem pole or how

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<v Speaker 1>high you're coming after us. Unfairly, the Justice Department, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>lost today that's all I got.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, Well, we will continue to follow any developments

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<v Speaker 3>that come out of this case.

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<v Speaker 2>Again, yes, when we start hearing from jurors, we will.

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<v Speaker 3>Jump back on. But in the meantime, y'all thank you

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<v Speaker 3>for listening to us. We hope you have a wonderful

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<v Speaker 3>day today, and yeah, just digest everything that happened in

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<v Speaker 3>Lower Manhattan today.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm Amy robot on behalf of my partner T. J.

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<v Speaker 2>Holmes.

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<v Speaker 4>Have a great Wednesday, everybody,