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Speaker 1: The volume. This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre.

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Speaker 2: What is up Straight firefam, It's me Jason McIntyre. Straight

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Speaker 2: Fire for Thursday, May twenty fifth, and for the first

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Speaker 2: time in a long time. During the week, we did

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Speaker 2: not have an NBA game thanks to the Denver Nuggets

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Speaker 2: sweeping the Lakers. So in place of talking about the

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Speaker 2: NBA or NFL or Major League Baseball or MLS whatever,

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Speaker 2: we have a special guest. Ladies and gentlemen. I've been

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Speaker 2: hyping this guest for a couple of weeks. Her calendar

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Speaker 2: is extremely busy and full. Obviously if you follow golf

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Speaker 2: at all. She's not a pro golfer, but she's bigger

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Speaker 2: than every pro golfer on the women's circuit. Her name

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Speaker 2: is Paige Sporadic. Sporadic I probably butchered that, and I

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Speaker 2: interviewed her this week. Her Instagram handle is page Renee.

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Speaker 2: If you are not on the gram, well it's worth

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Speaker 2: checking out anyway. She has three point seven million followers.

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Speaker 2: I know her agent a little bit, so I hit

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Speaker 2: him up about a month ago and I was like, listen,

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Speaker 2: I keep seeing page everywhere every time I talk to

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Speaker 2: anybody in and around golf. It's about page and I

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Speaker 2: mean I've golfed, I think two or three times is

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Speaker 2: probably in the last in the last full year, not

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Speaker 2: this calendar year. I probably golfed two or three times.

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Speaker 2: And without question, she was an overwhelming topic. And she

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Speaker 2: recently started her own website. She's massive on the internet

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Speaker 2: and you know she's gone through obviously some hurdles getting there.

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Speaker 2: She's known for maxim She's known for a lot of things.

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Speaker 2: She's a big deal. And I think you guys really

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Speaker 2: enjoy this interview. I'm very curious what the feedback will

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Speaker 2: be because this is a little out of care for

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Speaker 2: the podcast.

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Speaker 1: There is a video component.

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Speaker 2: If you go on YouTube, you'll definitely see the video.

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Speaker 2: Page is as advertised, pretty much an open book, and

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Speaker 2: you know, we appreciate the candor obviously, I think you

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Speaker 2: guys will like it, so enjoy page. Sporonic the most

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Speaker 2: popular person affiliated with women's golf. You know a guy

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Speaker 2: Jason likes to think he knows everything when it comes

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Speaker 2: to sports.

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Speaker 1: I know what sports dance wants, but for everything he doesn't,

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Speaker 1: he knows.

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Speaker 3: The guy who does.

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Speaker 2: Let's just say I know a guy who knows a

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Speaker 2: guy who knows another guy. All right, let's welcome into

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Speaker 2: straight Fire, a guest we've never had on the podcast before.

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Speaker 1: We've talked about her a few.

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Speaker 2: Times because obviously she's a huge deal in women's golf, although.

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Speaker 1: She's not a golfer.

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Speaker 2: Page Sporadic Page. I hope I said your name correctly.

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Speaker 2: How are you doing good?

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Speaker 3: You absolutely nailed it?

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Speaker 1: Okay, good?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of practice this week, so a lot

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Speaker 2: of my friends who play golf.

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Speaker 1: I'm not a huge golfer ol golf socially.

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Speaker 2: You obviously have an amazing background in golf, dating back

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Speaker 2: to high school and youth sports and all that. You know,

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Speaker 2: anytime we talk about like a big golf event that's

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Speaker 2: coming up, somehow your name gets in the conversation. And

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Speaker 2: I guess, I know that sounds silly because you know

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Speaker 2: to be where you are in the golf discussion right now.

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Speaker 2: We're kind of in that weird post Tiger era starting up,

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Speaker 2: and we're also in that weird like influencer space totally popping.

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Speaker 2: I guess, just you know, tell the audience a little

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Speaker 2: about how the heck you got where you are with

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Speaker 2: almost four million followers your own website, which is I'm

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Speaker 3: Yeah. So I was a competitive gymnast for a very

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Speaker 3: And so I sat down with my parents, I said,

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Speaker 3: And at that time, like I said, I had absolutely nothing.

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Speaker 3: And I couldn't do both well because I would go

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Speaker 3: I was just burnt out. It was really tough. I

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Speaker 2: I wounded to play golf hold on pay. So who

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Speaker 3: Honestly, you name it. Everyone was hating at that time.

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Speaker 2: So this whole social media full time thing is kind

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Speaker 2: of fascinating. There's a college football player who lives near me,

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Speaker 2: Matt Liiner, went to USC and you know, I see

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Speaker 2: Me introduce you to my social media guy. And I'm like,

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Speaker 2: And he's like got a guy dedicated to help him

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Speaker 2: with TikTok and Instagram and he's like doing videos like

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Speaker 2: look at your social media page. Do you have like

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Speaker 3: Yeah. So I run all of my social media myself,

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Speaker 3: it's me doing it. If you get a comment back,

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Speaker 3: time and effort into my social media. I'm very hands on.

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Speaker 3: I do have a amazing team that helps me seek

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Speaker 3: that I think, like you're saying, it's this really weird

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Speaker 2: I don't so again, Paige, I'm just on a TV show,

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Speaker 2: I have a podcast. I've been in like sports media

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Speaker 2: but I get a ton of comments on Instagram every

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Speaker 1: A lot of it is hate, you know, idiot fans

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I am.

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Speaker 1: So are you spend all day on social media?

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Speaker 3: I mean it's work. I love what I do and

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Speaker 3: I love connecting with people, and just as you prepare

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Speaker 3: with social media, and I think people again just don't

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Speaker 3: that goes into it, But the main focus is the

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Speaker 3: people who follow you. It's a community, and I'm not

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Speaker 3: You just don't know what's going on with social media.

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Speaker 2: this social media thing.

436
00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:24,560
Speaker 3: There's hundreds of them now, which has been really cool

437
00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:30,400
Speaker 3: to see. There's been this golf movement of women creating

438
00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:34,600
Speaker 3: businesses off of you know, just promoting the game of

439
00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:37,840
Speaker 3: golf and looking good doing it. I was the first

440
00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:40,639
Speaker 3: one to do this, and like I said, it just

441
00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:42,959
Speaker 3: kind of happened to me. But I found that I

442
00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:45,800
Speaker 3: was really good at it, that people liked my content,

443
00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:48,800
Speaker 3: that they could relate to what I was doing. And

444
00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:53,520
Speaker 3: I think because I didn't go into it knowing like

445
00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:56,880
Speaker 3: what to say or what to do, that I did

446
00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:59,560
Speaker 3: build this really great community of people because I was

447
00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:03,719
Speaker 3: so owe and they've seen me, you know, win and

448
00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:08,120
Speaker 3: lose and falter and gain success. And I've been through

449
00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:09,840
Speaker 3: it all and I've shared that with all of them,

450
00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:15,080
Speaker 3: and I basically created this career path for all of

451
00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:18,639
Speaker 3: these women now, which is really really cool. I've paved

452
00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:21,480
Speaker 3: the path for them to be successful, especially in a

453
00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:25,080
Speaker 3: male dominated sport like golf, and you're seeing this really

454
00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:27,080
Speaker 3: big movement now, and you're also seeing a lot of

455
00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:29,760
Speaker 3: women now on golf courses. I remember when I first

456
00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:33,160
Speaker 3: started doing this, which is you know, eight years seven,

457
00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:35,520
Speaker 3: eight years ago. Now, go to the golf course now

458
00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:38,080
Speaker 3: is the only one. I was the only girl there,

459
00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:40,360
Speaker 3: And now you go and you're seeing girls and leggings

460
00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:43,919
Speaker 3: and tank tops. And it's been incredible to see the

461
00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:48,600
Speaker 3: change because I put myself out there and I've stuck

462
00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:51,200
Speaker 3: to what I believe in, and I believe that there

463
00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:53,720
Speaker 3: needs be changes in golf, and I've been really outspoken

464
00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:56,679
Speaker 3: about that. And I also talk about how to build

465
00:22:57,040 --> 00:23:00,280
Speaker 3: a successful social media career and also how hard it

466
00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:02,560
Speaker 3: is and how draining it is, and you know, you

467
00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:06,320
Speaker 3: have to have a certain type of personality to do

468
00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:09,520
Speaker 3: well in this industry because it can eat you up

469
00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:11,520
Speaker 3: and spit you out, and you need to be really

470
00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:15,119
Speaker 3: really strong and confident and self assured in what you're doing.

471
00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:18,919
Speaker 1: So as the like the OG golf influencer person.

472
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:21,800
Speaker 2: Is there like a community or is it kind of

473
00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:23,879
Speaker 2: still caddy mean girls type stuff going on?

474
00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:27,639
Speaker 3: You know, I stick to myself, Like I said, I'm

475
00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:31,960
Speaker 3: very introverted and I just kind of keep my head down,

476
00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:35,159
Speaker 3: do my work, and you know, get done with it.

477
00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:38,240
Speaker 3: But if any of the young girls reach out to me,

478
00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:42,800
Speaker 3: I am more than willing to give advice. I think

479
00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:46,280
Speaker 3: I'm a little bit more guarded because of all of

480
00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:50,040
Speaker 3: the hate that I have received from women in the industry,

481
00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:53,720
Speaker 3: and so I'm hesitant to you know, reach out or

482
00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:56,560
Speaker 3: want to collaborate because I've been burned in the past.

483
00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:59,960
Speaker 3: But if any of them reach out, I'm always willing

484
00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:01,440
Speaker 3: to lend a helping hand.

485
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:02,480
Speaker 1: Well I'm sorry.

486
00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:05,760
Speaker 2: Well, during the vast research, I missed this being burned.

487
00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:06,640
Speaker 1: What does that mean?

488
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:11,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, when I first got into the industry and when

489
00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:12,960
Speaker 3: I was trying to play professionally, a lot of the

490
00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:16,719
Speaker 3: LPGA players did not like me and were very outspoken

491
00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:19,720
Speaker 3: towards that, and as well as a lot of influencers

492
00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:24,160
Speaker 3: who came up, you know, behind me. They were saying

493
00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:25,800
Speaker 3: that they didn't want to take the path that I

494
00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:28,679
Speaker 3: was taking. They weren't going to over sexualize themselves and

495
00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:31,720
Speaker 3: they turned around do the exact same thing. And so

496
00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:37,440
Speaker 3: sometimes there's just not a level of respect for everything

497
00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:40,760
Speaker 3: that I had been through. And if I didn't do this,

498
00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:44,639
Speaker 3: then they wouldn't even be doing this now, Like they

499
00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:47,760
Speaker 3: wouldn't have a job without all the hardships that I

500
00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:50,280
Speaker 3: faced and the path that I paid for them.

501
00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:52,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I worked with somebody at Fox.

502
00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:54,840
Speaker 2: He's not there anymore, but his wife was up for

503
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:58,520
Speaker 2: the WNBA like head job, like running the WNBA, and

504
00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:01,280
Speaker 2: during the meetings, you you know, she was told like, hey,

505
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:04,720
Speaker 2: we have a lot of influencers in the women's basketball space,

506
00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:06,520
Speaker 2: but we can't get any of them to come to

507
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:09,359
Speaker 2: the league because they can make money off social media

508
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:13,240
Speaker 2: instead of flying on planes, practice, getting yelled at, sitting

509
00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:14,760
Speaker 2: on a bench. They don't want to do all that.

510
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:16,399
Speaker 2: They just want to be influencers. They can make a

511
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:19,200
Speaker 2: ton of money. How do we get those influencers into

512
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,119
Speaker 2: the WNBA. Now, obviously the league has a ton of

513
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:24,280
Speaker 2: popular players, but there are some hugely.

514
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:25,960
Speaker 1: Popular women that just don't want to play basketball.

515
00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:29,359
Speaker 2: I got to ask you, like, you know, Page, we

516
00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:31,720
Speaker 2: could probably pull ten people at the side of the street,

517
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:35,200
Speaker 2: right now, name five women golfers, and I could guarantee

518
00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:37,520
Speaker 2: you none of them could do it. And I'm talking

519
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:40,360
Speaker 2: about like at a golf course. What if they came

520
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:42,000
Speaker 2: to you and we're like, hey, Page, we don't care

521
00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:43,320
Speaker 2: that you didn't qualify.

522
00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:45,800
Speaker 1: We want you playing in this tournament. You know what's up.

523
00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:49,919
Speaker 2: You're gonna drive ratings and interest in chatter and social media.

524
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:52,479
Speaker 1: But you also know that that bullshit hate is going

525
00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:54,120
Speaker 1: to be out there. You would you do it?

526
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,800
Speaker 3: No? Because I did try and I wasn't good enough.

527
00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:00,439
Speaker 3: You know, I did all good I mean yeah, but

528
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:03,320
Speaker 3: I didn't have all the tools to be at the

529
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:06,600
Speaker 3: caliber of an LPGA player, And so I don't want

530
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:10,199
Speaker 3: to go in there want embarrass myself and also be

531
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:13,040
Speaker 3: disrespectful for all of the work that they put in.

532
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 3: You know, just as they work hard every single day

533
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:17,600
Speaker 3: on what they do, I do the same thing. And

534
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:20,960
Speaker 3: so I've gone to the LPGA before and said hey,

535
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:24,000
Speaker 3: I'm here to help you in any capacity, and they

536
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:26,640
Speaker 3: didn't want my help. And so I think that there

537
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:30,320
Speaker 3: is a way where you can do both. I think

538
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 3: you can have these successful influencers who maybe aren't good

539
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:38,359
Speaker 3: enough or don't want to compete, help use their social

540
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:43,520
Speaker 3: media platforms to raise awareness for these amazing athletes. You know,

541
00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:45,919
Speaker 3: you don't want to take away from anything that they

542
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 3: have done, because they do dedicate so much of their

543
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:52,320
Speaker 3: time and energy and passion into this. And I'm here

544
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:55,760
Speaker 3: to help you with my talent and I want to

545
00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:58,600
Speaker 3: have more eyes on your talent. And I think that's

546
00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:00,560
Speaker 3: kind of where we need to be. And even with

547
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:04,480
Speaker 3: the WNBA, you don't have to have the influencers playing

548
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:08,919
Speaker 3: with them, but they should be at any tournament or

549
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:13,159
Speaker 3: any event and live streaming. Why isn't that an option

550
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:16,479
Speaker 3: or doing a behind the scenes or being in the

551
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 3: locker room like you can do both. And I think

552
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:21,680
Speaker 3: that's the problem. People just see is it's this way

553
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:25,960
Speaker 3: or no way, and a lot of influencers. In my case,

554
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:29,639
Speaker 3: I hated competing. I absolutely despised it. It was something

555
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:34,120
Speaker 3: that I didn't feel confident doing. I truly hated it.

556
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:37,000
Speaker 3: So I wanted to do that because I love what

557
00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:37,480
Speaker 3: I do.

558
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 1: What do you mean you didn't feel confident?

559
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:40,960
Speaker 2: You were like a college goal for you had a

560
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:44,840
Speaker 2: scholarship and you were like, yeah, yeah, I don't understand

561
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 2: what you were.

562
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 3: Well, it's just a different level. I don't think people

563
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:54,680
Speaker 3: realize the jump from being even like a scratch golfer

564
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 3: too a plus two or to tour level. I mean,

565
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:01,840
Speaker 3: for example, like I play off of a scratch now,

566
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:04,480
Speaker 3: so I can shoot, you know, even par Sometimes in

567
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 3: the sixties they're shooting sixty twos in sixty threes, and

568
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:14,160
Speaker 3: they're consistently just better all around, and there's so much

569
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 3: that goes into that, and so yeah, I'm a damn

570
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 3: good golfer, but I am not one of the best

571
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 3: in the world, and it would be embarrassing on both

572
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:24,199
Speaker 3: ends for me to be in there. It's almost as

573
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 3: it's almost like a slap in their face. It's like, oh,

574
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 3: anyone can go play, let's put them in, you know.

575
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 3: And I would rather use my platforms to put more

576
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 3: eyes on what they're doing than be competing alongside them

577
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 3: because I'm just not at their level, and it's that

578
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 3: would yea.

579
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 2: I guess I'm more of an outsider. So I totally

580
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 2: disagree with that. I mean, like more people would be

581
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 2: interested in seeing it, but you're not doing what they're

582
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 2: doing every day practicing because you got a you know,

583
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 2: social media, are you on TikTok?

584
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm not on there.

585
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm on every social platform you can possibly.

586
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:00,920
Speaker 2: So now is that by choice or is it like, hey,

587
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 2: there's this, we've just got it. We've got to be

588
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 2: everywhere just in case this pops.

589
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 3: No, I love it. I love what I do. I

590
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 3: love creating content. And the more platforms the better because

591
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 3: each platform is a different piece of content and you

592
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 3: can be creative. And so, for example, like YouTube, I

593
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 3: do very different content on YouTube than I do on TikTok,

594
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 3: and my podcast is very different than everything, And my

595
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 3: Instagram is different than my Twitter, and my Twitter is

596
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 3: different than my Facebook. And then of course we have

597
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 3: the subscription site. So there's so many different pieces and

598
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:38,480
Speaker 3: they're all different, and I love doing content for each

599
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 3: of them because you can be so creative.

600
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 2: So, to go back to the gold thing, like, obviously

601
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:44,640
Speaker 2: you're cleaning up making a lot of money, and you

602
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 2: know the women's golfers, like the purses aren't huge for

603
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 2: some of these events obviously, but like you said, you

604
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 2: went to the LPG and we're like, hey, I'm interested

605
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 2: in helping, and they just were like not really, Like.

606
00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 1: Were you surprised at that? Did that?

607
00:29:58,840 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 3: Did that?

608
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:01,560
Speaker 1: Hurt your feelings. What's the response when they're like, no,

609
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 1: we don't want help, we're great.

610
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 3: I see both sides. Yes, it's very frustrating because I

611
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 3: had very pure intentions to want to elevate the women's game,

612
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 3: and that's always been a passion of mine, is growing

613
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 3: the game of golf. I got into this because I

614
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 3: wanted to show that there are so many different sides

615
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:20,720
Speaker 3: to golf. It's not just this stuffy country club. You

616
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,479
Speaker 3: can go and to a public golf course and hit

617
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 3: golf balls for under ten dollars in jeans and that's

618
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:28,480
Speaker 3: just as fun and that's still, you know, the game

619
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 3: of golf. And I wanted to bring awareness to women

620
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 3: golfers because they don't get paid enough and they are

621
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 3: so good and people don't realize that. And I wanted

622
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 3: to help, and I was frustrated that they didn't see

623
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:44,560
Speaker 3: the opportunity in front of them. I also understand it

624
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 3: that it's their business, and if they don't want to

625
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 3: work with me, then that's their choice. You know, I

626
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 3: can't be upset about that. I think that's the hard

627
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:57,000
Speaker 3: part about being an influencer is you are the brand,

628
00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 3: and if you think about it, and other businesses. Sometimes

629
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:04,719
Speaker 3: it just doesn't align. But I and what doesn't align

630
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 3: with them, and that can be that's when your feelings

631
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 3: can get hurt. But if you look at it truly

632
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 3: as a business deal, then no, it's no hard feelings.

633
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 3: It just didn't align with their business plan.

634
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 2: I know you have a super busy day, so I'll

635
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 2: try to wrap up here. The US opens coming up.

636
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 2: It's out here in LA. I know you do some

637
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 2: gambling stuff now partnership. I'm curious what happens when you

638
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 2: give out picks and they don't hit, because that's gambling,

639
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 2: you know, fifty percent of the time, maybe you get lucky.

640
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 1: How do you handle that?

641
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:40,240
Speaker 2: I know the social media dudes are animals when they

642
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 2: lose bets because I do some of that as well.

643
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, golf is interesting. I think it's the

644
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 3: hardest sport to make picks for because it's, you know,

645
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 3: one person out of one hundred and forty guys in

646
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 3: a field and the odds are just not in your favor.

647
00:31:55,880 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 3: Last year I was on I had about seven winners,

648
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 3: two of the four major champions I picked correctly, which

649
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 3: is outstanding. Like I blew it out of the Park,

650
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 3: and still they're like, you're not getting every week, You're

651
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Speaker 3: not picking every winner every week. And at the PGA Championship,

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Speaker 3: I said to Fade Hoveland, and Hoveland came in second,

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Speaker 3: and I was like, the whole time, I was just

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Speaker 3: getting comments and I knew it, and I was like,

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Speaker 3: why did I do this? Why did I say that? Luckily,

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Speaker 3: I said that Brooks is also a really great pick,

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Speaker 3: which offset it. You just have to give almost as

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Speaker 3: many picks as you can for good top tens, good

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Speaker 3: top twenties, top five finishes to you know, hopefully not

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Speaker 3: put all your eggs in one basket. But yeah, the

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Speaker 3: US Open is going to be really interesting. Golf is

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Speaker 3: in a amazing spot right now. There's a ton of

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Speaker 3: really great players. And I'm liking Max Homa. He okay,

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Speaker 3: he yeah, he plays well in LA, he plays well

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Speaker 3: on hard golf courses. I know he does have a

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Speaker 3: great major record, but I think he'll do well kind

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Speaker 3: of in his hometown and playing in front of a

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Speaker 3: lot of friends and family.

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Speaker 2: So I guess the last question, like you talk about

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Speaker 2: playing golf a lot, are you able to just go

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Speaker 2: to a course and play around with friends and nobody

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Speaker 2: will notice you, or are people coming up to you,

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Speaker 2: like at the driving range and the putting green and

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Speaker 2: all that, because it seems like your audience is a

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Speaker 2: lot of dudes and they're gonna be it and they're

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Speaker 2: gonna recognize you obviously.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I definitely get recognized when I go

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Speaker 3: to any golf course, mostly just because I stand out too.

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Speaker 3: You know, I'm one of thely you know, like blondes,

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Speaker 3: you know, like females out there. You know, I just

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Speaker 3: walk in with my little skirt and my you know,

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Speaker 3: my blonde ponytail flipping behind me. I do stick out

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Speaker 3: like a sore thumb. So sometimes I don't know if

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Speaker 3: they're like, oh, a girl on the golf course, what

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Speaker 3: is this? Or if you're like, oh, that's page. But

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Speaker 3: most people are really nice when they come up to me.

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Speaker 3: Anytime I go to golf events. It's kind of the

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Speaker 3: same thing. But ever since I did I got maxim,

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Speaker 3: I did their.

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Speaker 1: Uh their issue with them? Yeah number one? What year

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Speaker 1: was that?

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Speaker 3: That was last year? And so once I did that,

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Speaker 3: which was a little bit more mainstream because I am

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Speaker 3: so heavily involved in just the sports community that even now,

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Speaker 3: like I'll get off the plane and people will come

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Speaker 3: up to me, or you know, I'm starting to go

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Speaker 3: out in other places and people are starting to come

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Speaker 3: up to me. So I didn't realize that I was

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Speaker 3: gonna change like that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you probably need like some kind of security. You know,

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Speaker 2: people are weird.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I'm lucky. I do have a lot of security.

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Speaker 3: But like the first time I was I was walking

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Speaker 3: off the plane. I was wearing like my bright yellow

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Speaker 3: crocs and sweats and no makeup, and like my hair

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Speaker 3: was like greasy and off my head, and He's like,

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Speaker 3: are you Paige, And I was like no, yeah, I

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Speaker 3: mean it's like I take a picture. I was like, yeah, okay,

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Speaker 3: because it's like, you know, they're gonna post it and

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Speaker 3: then obviously are going to be like she doesn't look

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Speaker 3: the same in person, and so now I'm like, okay,

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Speaker 3: at least need to travel with some makeup on.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I remember being at airport after I think the Final Four,

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Speaker 2: and Danica Patrick was at the airport and just standing

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Speaker 2: there at the gate. Not one person recognized her. She's

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Speaker 2: kind of on the smaller side and she was just

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Speaker 2: standing there.

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Speaker 1: Just no security, no agent, nobody.

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Speaker 2: And I was like this is strange, Like I thought

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Speaker 2: she was a huge deal. But you know, you're I

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Speaker 2: guess a little different. You're what pretty tall? Right? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Almost five eight? Most people think I'm a lot taller

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Speaker 3: than that. That's one thing I get when they see

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Speaker 3: me in personal like, oh I thought you were a

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Speaker 3: lot taller. No, yeah, I don't know what it is.

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Speaker 3: I just uh, people have been coming up to me more,

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Speaker 3: which they're always so nice, and I appreciate all the

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Speaker 3: kind things that they say.

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Speaker 1: So is there anything you want to anything you want

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Speaker 1: to plug?

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Speaker 2: Uh? Any besides Only Page, which I'm sure is just

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Speaker 2: going to get a million more signups, you know in

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Speaker 2: the next pie.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sure. So you guys can head over to

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Speaker 3: my subscription site Only Page. I do personalized videos, golf content,

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Speaker 3: behind the scene, a lot of fun stuff over there.

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Speaker 3: My podcast is the Playing Around Podcast. We do that

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Speaker 3: weekly where we just recap golf tournaments and what's happening

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Speaker 3: in the golf world. And then all of my social media,

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Speaker 3: so you can find me on TikTok, Facebook, Instagram under

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Speaker 3: page Sperannic and then on Instagram which is page Forrene

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 2: Page thanks a lot, continued success, Uh, in all your

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Speaker 2: endeavors and maybe I'll see at a golf course sometime.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we mean to get you out there.

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Speaker 1: Unlikely, but maybe we'll see Okay, thank you,