WEBVTT - 25W: Most Memorable Conversations from 2025 PT1 0:00:04.040 --> 0:00:08.400 This is a podcast called twenty five whist Stalking Parts, 0:00:08.840 --> 0:00:11.400 and they were a whizz So yeah, it's too bad, 0:00:11.880 --> 0:00:15.680 But what did you expect. It's a podcast called twenty 0:00:15.720 --> 0:00:18.000 five Whistles twenty Wine. 0:00:20.320 --> 0:00:22.000 We've had some awesome guests sit down with us on 0:00:22.040 --> 0:00:23.880 the podcast this year, so I want to look back 0:00:23.880 --> 0:00:26.840 at some of our favorite interviews that maybe you missed. 0:00:27.160 --> 0:00:29.680 First up, head coach of the number four seed in 0:00:29.720 --> 0:00:33.400 this year's college football playoff, Joy McGuire from Texas Tech 0:00:33.479 --> 0:00:35.360 Text twelve and one on the year they won the 0:00:35.360 --> 0:00:37.559 Big twelve. Coach McGuire's put his name up there with 0:00:37.600 --> 0:00:40.239 the best up and coming coaches in the country. He 0:00:40.360 --> 0:00:43.520 just signed a new seven year contract extension with Tech, 0:00:43.600 --> 0:00:46.839 so B congrats to him, and man, they're awesome here 0:00:46.880 --> 0:00:50.519 he is Coach Joey McGuire. Let us welcome one of 0:00:50.600 --> 0:00:54.960 my favorite coaches. He's now the hunter. The hunted has 0:00:54.960 --> 0:00:58.160 turned into the hunter. Coach McGuire, let's up. 0:01:00.040 --> 0:01:00.560 And what's up? 0:01:00.600 --> 0:01:00.840 Brother? 0:01:01.200 --> 0:01:03.440 So good to see you and be on your show. 0:01:03.480 --> 0:01:04.160 I appreciate it. 0:01:04.200 --> 0:01:06.600 Man, where on the priority list is it for you 0:01:06.680 --> 0:01:10.679 to make sure you guys have maybe an advantage or 0:01:10.720 --> 0:01:13.080 are just ready to take a shot at the NFL. 0:01:13.640 --> 0:01:14.160 It's high. 0:01:14.240 --> 0:01:16.280 You know, we talk about it all the time. You know, 0:01:16.640 --> 0:01:18.640 Number one, you're coming here to get a great education, 0:01:20.040 --> 0:01:23.160 and one B, you're preparing yourself could be a pro. 0:01:23.480 --> 0:01:25.880 Now we talk about being a pro like being a 0:01:25.880 --> 0:01:28.760 great dad, being a great husband. You know, I mean, 0:01:28.760 --> 0:01:32.080 you're a pro at what you do. But these guys 0:01:32.319 --> 0:01:34.600 that we have on this team, there's a lot of 0:01:34.800 --> 0:01:39.080 them that have the ability and athletic and mindset to 0:01:39.160 --> 0:01:40.880 be in the NFL. So we want to make sure 0:01:40.880 --> 0:01:44.800 we're preparing them for that. You walk into our team meetings, 0:01:44.840 --> 0:01:47.920 everybody's going to have a notebook, everybody's taking notes, everybody's 0:01:47.960 --> 0:01:50.800 locked in. Teach them how to watch film, watch an 0:01:50.800 --> 0:01:54.680 extra film. One of my big deals that I talk about, 0:01:55.200 --> 0:01:58.560 excuse me, every single day, it's taking care of your body. 0:01:58.920 --> 0:02:01.280 Because you and I both know there's a lot of 0:02:01.280 --> 0:02:03.200 guys in the NFL that are still in the NFL 0:02:03.280 --> 0:02:05.760 because they can stay healthy. And there's a lot of 0:02:05.760 --> 0:02:09.480 guys that have been cut over the history of the 0:02:09.560 --> 0:02:11.799 NFL because they can't stay helpy. And they might be 0:02:11.800 --> 0:02:13.880 better than one guy, but they just can't stay help 0:02:14.080 --> 0:02:16.280 So we we spend a lot of time with that. 0:02:16.760 --> 0:02:18.640 Are you all football all the time, even when it's 0:02:18.720 --> 0:02:19.519 not your football? 0:02:19.680 --> 0:02:20.360 Yeah, I love it. 0:02:20.440 --> 0:02:23.200 I meat up with it, you know, especially college football. 0:02:23.200 --> 0:02:27.400 I love watching It's just a pageantry and and you know, 0:02:27.520 --> 0:02:30.440 it's it's almost like a movie at different stadiums, and 0:02:31.200 --> 0:02:34.200 you know, it's I'm heat up with it. You know, 0:02:34.200 --> 0:02:37.359 I'll watch a little bit of pros pro wise, I'm 0:02:37.400 --> 0:02:40.320 trying to watch our guys. Anybody Wou's playing, you know, 0:02:40.400 --> 0:02:42.400 I'll tune in and watch a couple of you know, 0:02:42.400 --> 0:02:44.560 we have it in the background while I'm watching Feeling. 0:02:44.600 --> 0:02:47.120 But yeah, I don't have a lot of hobbies. You know, 0:02:47.240 --> 0:02:49.720 it's hanging out with my dog and my wife and 0:02:50.080 --> 0:02:50.920 watch football. 0:02:51.360 --> 0:02:54.560 Is it different every year what the players do as leaders? 0:02:54.600 --> 0:02:57.160 You have some years where you just trust your captains 0:02:57.200 --> 0:02:59.200 to actually have meetings with the team, and some maybe 0:02:59.240 --> 0:03:02.400 your captains aren't established. Is it based on you know, 0:03:02.440 --> 0:03:03.600 who the captains are every year? 0:03:03.880 --> 0:03:06.680 One hundred percent? You know, we we've got a really 0:03:06.760 --> 0:03:10.120 strong group. Three of my captains are back. We had 0:03:10.160 --> 0:03:14.000 five captains last year. Three of them returned Baron Morton, 0:03:14.080 --> 0:03:16.000 Jacob Rodriguez and Brostromirez. 0:03:16.120 --> 0:03:18.519 But one thing that we did. 0:03:18.800 --> 0:03:23.040 There were some really strong alpha males that came in 0:03:25.080 --> 0:03:27.560 and they had big voices. They had been captains at 0:03:27.560 --> 0:03:30.600 their previous spools, and so we wanted to make sure 0:03:30.639 --> 0:03:32.360 they had a voice. And so like a guy like 0:03:32.400 --> 0:03:35.920 Skylar Gil Howard has been huge for us. And so 0:03:36.640 --> 0:03:39.560 this is a player led team. You know, I can 0:03:39.600 --> 0:03:42.880 send out one text to my leadership group. Whatever that 0:03:42.920 --> 0:03:44.760 text says, it's gonna get taken care out. 0:03:45.680 --> 0:03:47.480 Next up is the runner up in this just Heisman 0:03:47.520 --> 0:03:52.000 Trophy race. Vanderbilt quarterback Diego Pavia. Diego became Bandy's first 0:03:52.040 --> 0:03:54.960 ever Heisman finalist, led Vanderbilt to their first ten win 0:03:55.000 --> 0:03:58.160 season of program history, had thirty six total touchdowns and 0:03:58.200 --> 0:04:01.360 had over four thousand total yards cards. The crazy part 0:04:01.400 --> 0:04:03.720 is when we had Diego and studio before the season, 0:04:04.040 --> 0:04:05.960 he said, Hey, I want to win the Heisman, and 0:04:06.000 --> 0:04:08.160 we didn't like, oh yeah right, but it was like okay, 0:04:08.520 --> 0:04:10.920 but he did it. Congrats to Diego on a great 0:04:10.920 --> 0:04:13.000 season here. He is good to see you. Thanks for 0:04:13.120 --> 0:04:13.920 spending some time with us. 0:04:13.960 --> 0:04:15.520 Appreciate you, Bobby, Thanks for having me. 0:04:15.640 --> 0:04:17.880 We were talking to coach Lee last year and he 0:04:18.000 --> 0:04:20.720 was talking about, you know, it's hard to get into Vanderbilt. 0:04:20.720 --> 0:04:22.960 Oh yeah, and to recruit players, it's got to be 0:04:22.960 --> 0:04:25.400 a special type of player. I didn't realize that. You 0:04:26.320 --> 0:04:28.440 It sounds like juniors and seniors can't transfer in. You 0:04:28.480 --> 0:04:30.760 have to have graduated to come in. So that puts 0:04:30.800 --> 0:04:32.840 a lot of stress on You didn at school right, 0:04:32.920 --> 0:04:34.560 like to get all that done for sure. 0:04:34.680 --> 0:04:36.520 I mean I was taking twenty one credits. I was 0:04:36.520 --> 0:04:39.039 still working out, you know, two three times a day, 0:04:39.440 --> 0:04:42.400 still going to practice, watching them practice. But it was 0:04:42.440 --> 0:04:43.640 all online, so that was cool. 0:04:44.480 --> 0:04:46.320 Whenever I tried to do like online when I got 0:04:46.320 --> 0:04:50.360 a ticket, I spent way less time invested in being 0:04:50.360 --> 0:04:52.480 on because it was like easily available. So I did 0:04:52.520 --> 0:04:55.039 terrible at taking like Driver's Head online. Yeah yeah, so 0:04:55.320 --> 0:04:57.159 I feel like if I took online classes, I would 0:04:57.160 --> 0:04:57.800 not pay attention. 0:04:57.880 --> 0:04:59.640 We should have just typed it into chagbt what we 0:04:59.680 --> 0:04:59.960 got to do it? 0:05:00.080 --> 0:05:03.000 That's true, Yeah, different times, not. 0:05:02.920 --> 0:05:04.600 Saying I do that, not saying I do that. Just 0:05:04.720 --> 0:05:05.480 a few students. 0:05:05.560 --> 0:05:08.000 What's Vandy like to go to class? I'm assuming you're 0:05:08.040 --> 0:05:08.479 going to class. 0:05:08.520 --> 0:05:11.360 Oh yeah, you meet a lot of interesting kids at class. 0:05:11.360 --> 0:05:14.200 They want to like basically own the world, you know, 0:05:14.240 --> 0:05:17.240 where someone like like their parents are just really interesting 0:05:17.440 --> 0:05:19.240 or they just tell you their background. And that's what 0:05:19.279 --> 0:05:21.640 I like doing. I like learning about people and then 0:05:22.080 --> 0:05:24.440 building relationships like that. And so I met a few 0:05:24.520 --> 0:05:28.200 people just like in the hallways and stuff who are 0:05:28.279 --> 0:05:31.480 just interesting, you know, their parents or something are high up, 0:05:31.640 --> 0:05:34.440 or they're from Nashville, they own some like real estate. 0:05:35.240 --> 0:05:38.000 And but I really like the students at Vanderbilt. 0:05:38.080 --> 0:05:39.440 Can you go online classes now? 0:05:40.320 --> 0:05:44.640 So I have an all online major right now? Yeah? 0:05:44.760 --> 0:05:45.200 Awesome. 0:05:45.480 --> 0:05:46.839 So I'm really bought into football. 0:05:47.320 --> 0:05:49.240 Yeah did they make sure do most guys do that? 0:05:50.680 --> 0:05:53.080 No? Actually, not from Vanderbilt. We got a lot of 0:05:53.120 --> 0:05:56.200 smart kids on our roster. That's what makes that's what 0:05:56.200 --> 0:05:56.960 makes us elite. 0:05:57.000 --> 0:06:01.080 Yeah, you know, why did you choose Vanderbilt? Well? 0:06:01.120 --> 0:06:05.839 I chose it because at New Mexico State are my 0:06:05.960 --> 0:06:11.599 head coach, offensive coordinator, safety's coach, quarterback coach at think 0:06:11.640 --> 0:06:15.839 who else running back coach? They took vander picked up 0:06:15.839 --> 0:06:19.440 about six or seven of our coaches, and then they 0:06:19.440 --> 0:06:22.240 took like four of our players, and then so I 0:06:22.320 --> 0:06:24.760 was like, shoot, I might as well join them, you know. 0:06:24.800 --> 0:06:27.840 And then once coach kill really went to Vanderbilt That's 0:06:27.839 --> 0:06:29.520 when I was like, Okay, I'm bought in. 0:06:30.040 --> 0:06:32.320 Whenever you come over or you're thinking about coming over, 0:06:32.400 --> 0:06:34.719 are they like, hey, diego, there's a good shot you 0:06:34.720 --> 0:06:37.280 can play or is it just you're just believing yourself 0:06:37.279 --> 0:06:39.880 and go not really knowing I guess, not knowing how 0:06:39.880 --> 0:06:42.320 to say it, but not really having an understanding of 0:06:42.320 --> 0:06:43.479 where you're going to fit the depth chart. 0:06:43.720 --> 0:06:46.040 Well, there was a quarterback battle going in. I kind 0:06:46.080 --> 0:06:49.360 of scouted that going into it, but the starter had 0:06:49.440 --> 0:06:51.440 just left, so I knew the spot was open and 0:06:51.480 --> 0:06:54.360 there wasn't going to be no favoritism or anything like that. 0:06:54.400 --> 0:06:57.159 And all I asked for going in is because I 0:06:57.160 --> 0:06:59.560 know there's a lot of politics in the SEC and 0:06:59.680 --> 0:07:02.680 like these big conferences. So I told him I'll come 0:07:03.000 --> 0:07:05.880 if you promised me that it's a fifty to fifty 0:07:05.920 --> 0:07:07.320 shot and the better person will play. 0:07:07.720 --> 0:07:09.440 So you didn't even ask for the guarantee to start. 0:07:09.520 --> 0:07:11.320 You just wanted a fair shot to win the job. 0:07:11.360 --> 0:07:12.840 I just wanted a fair shot to win the job. 0:07:13.000 --> 0:07:16.440 What was the scheme difference? Offensively from New Mexico to here? 0:07:17.120 --> 0:07:19.360 Same thing Because the coaches came there, a lot of 0:07:19.400 --> 0:07:22.000 it were running the same same terminology and everything same terminal. 0:07:22.040 --> 0:07:24.240 There was a little bit of a twist because of 0:07:24.280 --> 0:07:29.120 our offensive line coach. He coached like Lamar Jackson at Louisville, 0:07:29.720 --> 0:07:32.080 and so we took a slight little twist with that, 0:07:33.040 --> 0:07:34.680 and so I had to learn a little bit, but 0:07:34.760 --> 0:07:36.640 it wasn't too much learning that I had to do. 0:07:36.880 --> 0:07:39.000 Did you feel that when you came in you were 0:07:39.840 --> 0:07:42.080 equal to the guy immediately? And I don't know who 0:07:42.320 --> 0:07:45.160 you run the quarterback battle with. Did you guys start 0:07:45.200 --> 0:07:46.640 at the same place or did you come in a 0:07:46.680 --> 0:07:48.120 little behind and you had to catch up. 0:07:48.520 --> 0:07:51.920 I would say I was probably ahead, just because I 0:07:52.000 --> 0:07:53.920 was at New Mexico State for a year and a 0:07:53.960 --> 0:07:56.640 half with the offensive coordinator and stuff. 0:07:56.320 --> 0:07:58.760 So you knew what he was saying, Yeah, what you 0:07:58.760 --> 0:07:59.640 were expected. 0:07:59.360 --> 0:08:01.400 And I was in the So I like practice. I 0:08:01.400 --> 0:08:03.200 would go watch practice every single day in the spring 0:08:03.240 --> 0:08:06.000 because they could in practice, and like on seven on 0:08:06.080 --> 0:08:09.080 seven and team reps, I would take my drop back 0:08:09.280 --> 0:08:10.760 when he said hike, I would take my drop back. 0:08:10.760 --> 0:08:13.000 I'd go through my reads and I'd throw the I'd 0:08:13.000 --> 0:08:15.680 fake throw the ball before like the quarterback would do it. 0:08:15.880 --> 0:08:17.440 So it's like being on the on deck circle and 0:08:17.520 --> 0:08:21.240 time pitches. Yep, you're there taking cuts just you. 0:08:21.200 --> 0:08:23.280 Know, uh, timing it just mental reps. 0:08:23.360 --> 0:08:24.440 What are you like in the huddle? 0:08:24.960 --> 0:08:28.280 Oh, I'm a I'm real serious in the huddle, Like 0:08:28.320 --> 0:08:30.920 once it's business, Once that clock starts, it's all business 0:08:30.920 --> 0:08:33.880 from there on out. And then I try to just 0:08:33.880 --> 0:08:37.240 get everyone prep give everyone confidence to go into the 0:08:37.240 --> 0:08:39.640 next play and just succeed. If someone misses a block 0:08:39.720 --> 0:08:41.480 or something, you know, I'm smacking him on his ass 0:08:41.480 --> 0:08:42.679 and just tell him, hey, you got it. 0:08:43.880 --> 0:08:45.080 Why do your guys believe in you? 0:08:46.640 --> 0:08:50.080 I think they just see that. You know, I'm not 0:08:50.080 --> 0:08:53.080 going to go out without a fight, Like I want 0:08:53.080 --> 0:08:56.040 to win more than anything else in life. Like this 0:08:56.080 --> 0:08:58.800 is all I know. All I know is football. Without football, 0:08:58.800 --> 0:09:00.120 I don't know what I would do. 0:09:00.120 --> 0:09:03.440 Do you like before game to be extremely hype or 0:09:03.720 --> 0:09:06.000 because we've had other guys come in like ma fighters, 0:09:06.800 --> 0:09:08.560 they don't want to be hyped. They want to have 0:09:08.679 --> 0:09:10.400 good adrenaline, but they don't want to be hyped because 0:09:10.400 --> 0:09:12.240 then they don't react and think the same. They want 0:09:12.240 --> 0:09:14.559 to be as calm as possible. Where are you before 0:09:14.559 --> 0:09:15.240 the game starts? 0:09:15.480 --> 0:09:19.600 Oh I'm hyped. I'm jumping up and down. I'm ready 0:09:19.679 --> 0:09:22.600 to go, you know. And then sometimes what's kind of 0:09:22.600 --> 0:09:26.439 like embarrassing though, is sometimes when your energy is too 0:09:26.520 --> 0:09:28.320 high and then you're just like starting to come down 0:09:28.320 --> 0:09:30.800 and focus, you catch like these yawns that are like 0:09:30.840 --> 0:09:32.720 really kind of embarrassing and you don't want no one 0:09:32.760 --> 0:09:34.680 to see us, or you're like eating like one of 0:09:34.679 --> 0:09:35.720 these or something like that. 0:09:36.120 --> 0:09:39.640 What are the facilities like at Vanderbilt? And I would 0:09:39.640 --> 0:09:42.959 like for you to walk back to both schools because 0:09:42.960 --> 0:09:45.360 I would assume each time was a big come up 0:09:45.400 --> 0:09:46.120 and it felt different. 0:09:47.080 --> 0:09:49.880 So from coming from Juco, we worked out in a 0:09:50.000 --> 0:09:53.480 tent literally, Uh, it was squat racks, like if you 0:09:53.520 --> 0:09:56.040 walked out on the on concrete and you were working 0:09:56.040 --> 0:09:59.160 out in the parking lot. We just put squat racks 0:09:59.200 --> 0:10:02.640 on them. And it was a a dome kind of 0:10:04.080 --> 0:10:06.600 kind of like Arizona State's indoor, but it was just 0:10:06.720 --> 0:10:09.560 concrete and we just we squatted in there. We benched 0:10:09.640 --> 0:10:10.000 in there. 0:10:10.760 --> 0:10:12.559 And then it sounds like prison I'll be honest with you, 0:10:12.920 --> 0:10:14.120 that's what it kind of what it sounds like, the 0:10:14.120 --> 0:10:15.679 prison yard with like a little ten over the top 0:10:15.720 --> 0:10:16.120 of right right. 0:10:16.120 --> 0:10:17.680 It was a military school, and the only way that 0:10:17.679 --> 0:10:19.560 you were able to get like an extra workout in 0:10:20.240 --> 0:10:23.560 is they had like the pull up bars, the dip bars, 0:10:24.679 --> 0:10:28.160 and so at Mimi, you really couldn't be up at 0:10:28.200 --> 0:10:30.520 a certain time, and I would like sneak out of 0:10:30.520 --> 0:10:33.240 my room four thirty in the morning, and I'm like 0:10:33.280 --> 0:10:35.160 trying to like creep on the wall so no one 0:10:35.160 --> 0:10:37.440 would see me. And I would go and like work 0:10:37.480 --> 0:10:39.520 out from like probably like probably get there a four 0:10:39.600 --> 0:10:42.280 forty five work out till about six and then at 0:10:42.480 --> 0:10:45.120 or like five point thirty and then come back, take 0:10:45.240 --> 0:10:47.480 quick shower, and be in formation by like five forty. 0:10:47.280 --> 0:10:49.000 Five because it was military institute. 0:10:49.080 --> 0:10:52.559 Yeah. And then when when I went to New Mexico State, 0:10:53.000 --> 0:10:55.280 it was like, oh my god, this is heaven, you know. 0:10:56.080 --> 0:10:59.880 And obviously, you know, they had a really actually a 0:11:00.040 --> 0:11:03.319 really good weight room there, but there was like no indoor, 0:11:04.400 --> 0:11:08.599 no grass filled. And then I come to Vanderbilt and 0:11:08.640 --> 0:11:13.120 I'm like They're serving steak every single day, chicken every 0:11:13.160 --> 0:11:16.040 single day. I'm like, what, like what's going on? 0:11:16.120 --> 0:11:18.439 You know, the nutrition is a big difference, oh, the 0:11:18.480 --> 0:11:21.480 biggest difference for sure, And so you can get whatever 0:11:21.480 --> 0:11:22.240 food you want whenever. 0:11:22.720 --> 0:11:25.200 Yeah, shrimp. There's sometimes lobsters. 0:11:25.800 --> 0:11:28.200 That's what I was crazy. 0:11:28.360 --> 0:11:31.120 Yeah, no, and then the desserts are great too. 0:11:31.480 --> 0:11:35.079 So they just have like chefs, cooks, always cooking food. 0:11:35.280 --> 0:11:38.840 What about snacks, Oh, dude, they have like a thing 0:11:39.840 --> 0:11:42.520 from this wall to this wolf filled with what's your 0:11:42.520 --> 0:11:43.120 favorite snack? 0:11:43.679 --> 0:11:46.040 I mean, I love a lot of fruits. I love 0:11:46.040 --> 0:11:47.440 a lot of cookies, So I'm a big fruit and 0:11:47.440 --> 0:11:48.320 cookies probably. 0:11:48.400 --> 0:11:55.560 Yeah, they got that. Yeah, they got gushers. What's those 0:11:55.600 --> 0:11:56.440 climb bars. 0:11:56.280 --> 0:11:58.880 Or something, and those are any time one in the morning, 0:11:59.200 --> 0:11:59.760 eight in the morning. 0:12:00.080 --> 0:12:00.240 Eight. 0:12:00.320 --> 0:12:03.200 Yeah, all day, dude, they wouldn't have anything left. We 0:12:03.200 --> 0:12:04.880 were there, dude, I know, we can't even have a 0:12:04.920 --> 0:12:05.360 break room. 0:12:05.480 --> 0:12:07.440 Oh you should have saw my sister. So my sister 0:12:07.520 --> 0:12:10.520 came down. Well, we took it into Mexico State. Obviously 0:12:10.520 --> 0:12:13.240 there was like just bagels and stuff. We go over here. 0:12:13.440 --> 0:12:16.160 She asked for a bag and she's like walking around 0:12:16.160 --> 0:12:18.320 making sure no one looks, just like putting snacks in 0:12:18.320 --> 0:12:18.760 the bag. 0:12:19.480 --> 0:12:21.480 We went to Auburn and worked out with the basketball team, 0:12:21.520 --> 0:12:23.920 that's what we did, and we walked. We got They 0:12:23.920 --> 0:12:26.880 had like a trail mix with Eminem's that's the whole Yeah, 0:12:26.960 --> 0:12:29.400 so we took we were like putting them in our bag. 0:12:29.480 --> 0:12:31.280 So like I understand what your sister was doing. Yeah. 0:12:31.360 --> 0:12:33.439 Yeah, the stuff's expensive too. 0:12:33.880 --> 0:12:34.760 Anything is awesome. 0:12:35.320 --> 0:12:37.600 Oh yeah, I remember I asked for like a protein 0:12:37.640 --> 0:12:40.520 shake and they took me to the back and uh 0:12:40.559 --> 0:12:43.480 there was like stack to the top with it was costco, 0:12:43.559 --> 0:12:47.160 you know. And I remember I took like a protein 0:12:47.200 --> 0:12:49.880 box just home, and I was like, I'm the man. 0:12:51.160 --> 0:12:52.199 I wouldn't tel the same way. 0:12:52.240 --> 0:12:52.880 Yeah. 0:12:52.920 --> 0:12:54.640 What was your greatest high school game? 0:12:56.040 --> 0:13:01.880 Oh? Shoot, So junior junior year, I had to actually 0:13:01.880 --> 0:13:05.920 play JV because of the transfer rule, and I would 0:13:05.960 --> 0:13:10.440 say I probably had maybe six touchdowns in the half 0:13:10.840 --> 0:13:12.800 and then like I just sat off like the rest 0:13:12.800 --> 0:13:13.200 of the day. 0:13:13.280 --> 0:13:14.840 So they made you had to play JV and then 0:13:14.840 --> 0:13:16.840 you just dominated. Yeah that's awesome. 0:13:17.080 --> 0:13:22.760 Yeah I played. Uh freshman, I played varsity. Uh, sophomore year, 0:13:22.800 --> 0:13:26.160 I played varsity, and then my junior year I transferred 0:13:26.880 --> 0:13:28.920 and uh they made me sit down and play JV. 0:13:28.960 --> 0:13:29.520 The whole year. 0:13:29.960 --> 0:13:30.200 Yeah. 0:13:30.200 --> 0:13:32.400 The whole year was that boring? 0:13:32.960 --> 0:13:35.840 Oh it was bad, you know, Like it was there 0:13:35.920 --> 0:13:39.319 was like a crazy play. I was playing running back receiver. 0:13:39.440 --> 0:13:40.800 I was just I just like told me, hey, just 0:13:40.920 --> 0:13:43.840 throw me the ball real quick. And like we had 0:13:43.880 --> 0:13:47.160 this other kid who played quarterback too, and if they 0:13:47.280 --> 0:13:49.000 drew up the route for him, I'll be like, hey, switch, 0:13:49.000 --> 0:13:51.480 you play quarterback real quick and I would run the route. 0:13:54.000 --> 0:13:55.280 And so I would I would run the route. But 0:13:55.280 --> 0:13:56.960 there was one time like I took, I took a 0:13:57.000 --> 0:13:59.560 hand off and then running up the left side, I 0:13:59.640 --> 0:14:02.760 curve it back to midway and then like some kid 0:14:02.800 --> 0:14:06.120 facemasks me, I'd come back and score a touchdown. And 0:14:06.360 --> 0:14:08.040 that was the day. I had like six touchdowns in 0:14:08.040 --> 0:14:10.080 a half. And so I just like sat on the 0:14:10.120 --> 0:14:12.200 sideline and it got it got really boring. I wish 0:14:12.200 --> 0:14:14.600 I was able to play varsity. Maybe that affected why 0:14:14.600 --> 0:14:18.400 I didn't get any offers, but I'm also from New Mexico. 0:14:18.440 --> 0:14:20.040 You know, how was your senior year? Then? 0:14:21.000 --> 0:14:23.720 Oh, I ended up getting hurt the first game and 0:14:23.760 --> 0:14:25.920 I had to sit out for like six games. But 0:14:26.960 --> 0:14:29.600 we were eleven and one and we lost in the 0:14:29.680 --> 0:14:31.520 playoffs like forty nine to fifty six. 0:14:31.800 --> 0:14:33.680 So you missed your whole junior year, Well missed it. 0:14:33.680 --> 0:14:35.200 You had to play junior varsity, and then you missed 0:14:35.200 --> 0:14:37.160 a big part of your senior year because of injury. Yeah, 0:14:37.200 --> 0:14:39.840 so is that why you didn't get the offers at 0:14:39.920 --> 0:14:41.640 least any Division one offers? 0:14:42.000 --> 0:14:45.440 No, I felt like because towards the end, I was 0:14:45.440 --> 0:14:47.280 still playing football and I was still playing really good. 0:14:47.320 --> 0:14:48.360 But were you playing quarterback? 0:14:48.520 --> 0:14:51.040 Yeah? And no, I don't think just no one wanted 0:14:51.080 --> 0:14:55.800 a five ten, five eleven quarterback. They didn't believe in me. 0:14:56.360 --> 0:14:59.320 So why did you choose to go to what did you? 0:14:59.320 --> 0:15:00.800 How did you what do you call in New Mexico Military? 0:15:00.840 --> 0:15:00.920 Now? 0:15:02.000 --> 0:15:03.400 Why did you choose nim Oh? 0:15:03.440 --> 0:15:06.600 My brother chose it for me. Really, I was thinking 0:15:06.600 --> 0:15:10.840 about maybe walking on to like a powerhouse, maybe like Oklahoma. 0:15:11.000 --> 0:15:15.520 Obviously Baker Mayfield was a walk on Yeah, Oklahoma exactly. 0:15:15.840 --> 0:15:17.720 And so I was thinking of doing like maybe one 0:15:17.720 --> 0:15:22.600 of those. And it was like literally a week before 0:15:23.840 --> 0:15:27.040 and then the Nimmy offensive coordinator, coach Kaiser came into 0:15:27.040 --> 0:15:29.320 my school and was like, Hey, you need to come 0:15:29.320 --> 0:15:33.320 to NIMI, Like this is it'll work out well for you. 0:15:34.040 --> 0:15:37.560 We've had five Division one quarterbacks in three years. It'll 0:15:37.600 --> 0:15:40.520 be great, Like you'll have a great opportunity. So we 0:15:40.640 --> 0:15:43.440 kind of and that was when that Netflix show, Uh, 0:15:43.960 --> 0:15:46.600 Last Chance You came out, and so Juco was big 0:15:46.600 --> 0:15:48.160 at the time, and everyone was taking looks at it. 0:15:48.680 --> 0:15:50.640 So I was thinking, just all right, I'm gonna go 0:15:50.720 --> 0:15:53.200 Juco for a year and then I'll transfer D one. 0:15:53.720 --> 0:15:58.600 And then so when Juco went UH six and four 0:15:59.640 --> 0:16:02.240 and then and we went to UH. The next year 0:16:02.240 --> 0:16:04.200 we went to the national CHAMPIONSHI won the national Championship, 0:16:04.240 --> 0:16:05.760 and then that's how I ended up in Mexico State. 0:16:05.960 --> 0:16:08.640 Did you start to get other offers other than New 0:16:08.680 --> 0:16:11.160 Mexico State like Jeff oh I had. 0:16:11.520 --> 0:16:13.880 I'll tell you when the offers came in, so I switched. 0:16:13.880 --> 0:16:16.800 My Twitter has all the offers like that's how you 0:16:16.800 --> 0:16:19.560 get offered nowadays. And on my Twitter I said I'm 0:16:19.560 --> 0:16:22.640 from Albuaque, New Mexico. I changed it to Tampa, Florida. 0:16:23.640 --> 0:16:25.800 And then once I changed it, literally a week after, 0:16:25.840 --> 0:16:28.320 I started getting offers and started talking to schools. It 0:16:28.400 --> 0:16:31.040 was crazy. 0:16:30.000 --> 0:16:32.440 Because you said, you're a Florida player, and they just 0:16:32.480 --> 0:16:33.840 respected the Florida players more. 0:16:34.000 --> 0:16:35.440 I guess that's how it works, you know. 0:16:35.480 --> 0:16:37.440 Are you sure they just didn't get put onto you. 0:16:38.160 --> 0:16:39.920 The same time. I don't switch it, Hey, I don't know. 0:16:40.000 --> 0:16:42.400 But once I switched it. It was like, oh, now 0:16:42.440 --> 0:16:44.320 these coaches want to talk to me. You know you're 0:16:44.320 --> 0:16:46.080 a three star. No, I was a no star. 0:16:46.160 --> 0:16:46.920 You're a no star. 0:16:47.000 --> 0:16:47.920 I was a negative star. 0:16:48.040 --> 0:16:49.080 What sports did you play? 0:16:49.600 --> 0:16:52.160 I wrestled and played football. 0:16:51.840 --> 0:16:52.600 Or a negative star? 0:16:52.920 --> 0:16:59.520 Okay, so they have your ranked as you wrestled, wrestled, 0:17:00.000 --> 0:17:02.520 I played football and then I played baseball for two years. 0:17:02.560 --> 0:17:04.920 Which sport were you the best at? 0:17:05.440 --> 0:17:08.080 People thought I was the best at wrestling, but I 0:17:08.359 --> 0:17:10.320 believe that I just loved football so much. 0:17:10.359 --> 0:17:11.320 He loved football more? 0:17:11.440 --> 0:17:12.080 Yeah, way more. 0:17:12.080 --> 0:17:13.320 Could you have wrestled in college? 0:17:13.480 --> 0:17:13.880 Yeah? 0:17:14.080 --> 0:17:15.880 Could you play baseball in college. 0:17:17.960 --> 0:17:19.080 If I would have worked at it? 0:17:19.720 --> 0:17:20.000 Uh? 0:17:20.080 --> 0:17:21.159 Yeah? 0:17:21.320 --> 0:17:25.440 What coaches had the most impact on your career? Jerry 0:17:25.520 --> 0:17:27.960 kol Why what's special at him? 0:17:28.160 --> 0:17:28.320